Secrets of Trump's Ground Game Success, with Ashley Hayek, and Sen. Rick Scott Makes Senate Leader Case | Ep. 942
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Sen. Rick Scott (R-Florida) joins The Megyn Kelly Show Live on SiriusXM Channel 111 to talk about the upcoming leadership election and why he thinks he s the best choice to replace Sen. Mitch McConnell (D-Illinois) as the next majority leader of the Senate.
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And Mar-a-Lago is now the center of the political universe.
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As president-elect, Donald Trump is quickly making picks for his next administration.
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Will it be Senator Marco Rubio as Secretary of State?
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He's starting to get congratulations now from people like Byron Donalds, who's a surrogate
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And some are kicking his name around as a possible Rubio replacement in the Senate.
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We just don't fully know until we hear from Donald Trump.
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Or maybe we'll know in just a bit because I'll be joined by another U.S. senator from Florida,
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But he is here to talk about the leadership elections that are happening tomorrow morning.
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This time tomorrow, he'll be in the U.S. Senate, and they'll be voting on who's going to be
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You know, Mitch McConnell, of course, now the minority leader.
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And now the Republicans have won control of the Senate, so they need to find a majority
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Mitch McConnell has already announced, he did, I think it was February, that he's going to
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He's going to stay in his role as a senator, but he's going to be stepping down from leadership.
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And there's a bunch of, there's some palace intrigue here because Thune, John Thune, and
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John Cornyn are his chief rivals, Rick Scott's chief rivals for this role.
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You've got a bunch of pro-MAGA fans on X pushing for Rick Scott.
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But then you've got a lot of people who are not on board.
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And Thune is reportedly the quiet favorite because he's well-liked amongst the senators.
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Will these other senators who aren't as pro-MAGA as Rick Scott push the Trump agenda?
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Will they, can they be relied upon to stand shoulder to shoulder with Trump as he gets
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through his legislation, some of which undoubtedly will be controversial?
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Will they be more Susan Collins-ish or Mitt Romney-ish?
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Rick Scott is, of course, you know, getting a ton of support from the online right.
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And we're going to ask him all about what he thinks the dynamics are at play are.
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He's in an interesting position in this interview because he doesn't want to alienate his fellow
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But he definitely wants Thune and Cornyn not to win.
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So this will be kind of a fun one to listen to.
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In the meantime, I want to get you up to speed on all the things that are happening in the
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Let's just start with what's happening with FEMA.
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An extraordinary development here over the past couple of days.
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So FEMA, as you know, is responsible for helping Americans in the wake of natural disasters,
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including the hurricanes that we saw come through Florida twice.
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And the first one hit North Carolina badly, too.
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And there were claims by Donald Trump and others that FEMA was not getting help to Republican
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households intentionally, like that they were skipping over Republican households and ignoring
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And this led to a spate of articles on the left by the New York Times and others saying,
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So to their credit, the Daily Wire sent a reporter down there to Florida in particular
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to start actually knocking on doors and figuring out what was going on and do some investigative
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And they found it was true that FEMA was intentionally skipping houses that had Trump signs on their
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And not only that, but they found internal correspondence showing the supervisor, the FEMA supervisor
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on site, telling people to skip the houses with the Trump signs.
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And now the woman, she's a supervisor who was fired.
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And it's all in writing, you know, it was her telling them to skip the Trump houses, the
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Now the woman speaking out saying, look, I'm a patsy.
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And she's claiming this all had to do with, you know, a house here or there didn't want
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her help or said something not nice to the FEMA workers.
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And therefore, it was a safety issue, which is sounds like a complete CYA.
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You know, if you really don't want FEMA there, you're supposed to paint some like a purple
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And just because some Trump supporter says to you, what are you doing here?
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Or I know you guys don't like Republicans or something less than I love you, FEMA, doesn't
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So the only question really to be investigated at this point is how high does this go?
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Because she's saying it went up higher than her and that she's being scapegoated and how
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Because political messaging from one of the people that they're not huge fans of FEMA is
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not grounds for skipping their homes and nor are there Trump signs.
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So we need to get to the bottom of what's going on here because there will be more natural
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And just because Trump is president-elect doesn't mean he will instantaneously be able to get
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to the bottom of the rot that's in so many of these federal agencies.
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The absolute loathing for him, yes, and for the right half of the country.
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In other news, Kamala Harris in the news this week for among other reasons, having run her
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billion dollar campaign down to the studs when it comes to her cash, she's reportedly
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Well, now the reports are that she blew the vast majority of that last 20 million on stars.
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Now, so far, we've only had one star deny receiving a direct payment, and that person
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Uh, the reporting is, and we've seen the verification, um, via various publications that Harpo Productions,
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her production company, was paid a million dollars for that farce of a town hall that Oprah put
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How, so Oprah's production company got a million dollars to put that thing on.
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Now, it was on TMZ today, either TMZ or one of their, you know, contractors caught up with
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Oprah and said, Hey, heard you got a million dollars.
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She didn't mention that her company got a million dollars.
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She claimed now look at this set that cost a million dollars and the Kamala Harris campaign
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Why wouldn't Oprah have used her production company, her set?
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Um, so maybe that's what it costs maybe to do a photo shoot or a sit downtown hall with
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Let me tell you something, people, this is yet another piece of evidence that Oprah Winfrey
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News people do not require the campaign to pay us so we can interview them.
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I did a town hall of sorts in this election when I sat down with the Tim Wall's stolen
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It's just a way of lining your pocket like wink, wink.
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Oprah sure would be great if you would set up this town hall for us and we'll pay you
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a million dollars for your beautiful set and then maybe you could endorse us.
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There's a report out now that, um, oh my God, who was it?
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Which performer got $5 million for the song and dance they did?
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There's a report that she got $5 million for this.
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Now let's find out whether she denies it Oprah style.
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Then there's a report that $100,000 of the money went to build the set for the sex podcast.
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Girl, that, that when Kamala Harris went on with a sex podcaster, the Harris team paid $100,000 for this.
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If you are listening to the show on SiriusXM, please, I beg of you, go to YouTube later.
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Go, go to 10 past the hour and you tell me how this cost $100,000.
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If I give you $100,000 to redo your home, you could probably redo half of the rooms in it with lovely furnishings for that.
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They've got little letters that, that have the name of the podcast.
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They've got some lights and some books and some plants.
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So this is either the case of absolute waste where nobody mined the shop and Democrat donors, you might want to pay attention to that.
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Or there's some sort of fraud going on here where the Harris campaign was paying people off.
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I don't know which it was, and we should find out the full accounting because the campaigns are not allowed to keep this secret from the rest of us.
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We're supposed to know what they spend the donors' money on.
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So we will wait to hear how much it really costs to get Oprah to behave in the following way.
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But by the way, did J-Lo get a payment for that?
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Did anybody get paid for these endorsements that we were led to believe were just completely organic?
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I mean, do we really care because they're all losers?
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They lost badly and have been rendered utterly powerless and feckless in the eyes of the electorate.
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Nobody will be asking for their endorsement again.
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It's funny because there's already a Democratic primary underway for 2028.
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Um, and it's people like Josh Shapiro, Gavin Newsom out in California is already organizing his resistance to Trump's agenda.
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The California liberal has already been rejected resoundingly by the electorate.
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Why would the Democrats be so stupid as to elect another one next go around?
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Your little widow's peak does not distinguish you that much.
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And it may be hard to believe he's even more radical than Kamala Harris is.
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His crazy ass gender stuff is even more radical than hers was.
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So now you've got all these early, uh, Andy Beshear, uh, red state blue governor is out there already.
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I told you about this, uh, Chris Murphy in Connecticut yesterday.
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Like I understand, doesn't mention the trans thing at all.
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We, we have a lot of listeners in Connecticut, a lot, and many are your voters, but they won't
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If you don't get on the right side of this thing, they won't be because you're losing.
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We pointed out yesterday, the swing state voters, the number one issue was the trans
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And speaking of that, we've been talking about this guy, Seth Moulton.
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He's a Democrat in Massachusetts who has now come out.
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I just don't want my daughters to have to deal.
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And we've been pointing out his, his hypocrisy because he has been not only he wasn't neutral
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He was actively pushing legislation that would mandate men in women's sports mandated and
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actively opposing the bills that would have stopped it.
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And now he tells us, oh, he's been worried about his daughters all along.
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You would rather have seen your daughters get hurt than lose your election or risk alienating
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He goes on with Scarborough, who's also pretending like he's just this like non-woke, you know,
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voice of reason who tried to speak to the Democrats about how to market this campaign.
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But I remember several years ago saying on this show that a male who transitions after
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puberty should not compete against young women, young girls.
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Eighty five percent of Americans agree with that.
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Maybe you will never understand why that issue, why the border issue, why the crime issue,
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why all of these other issues, the defund the police, as James Carville said, all these
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This is just everything that's wrong with this cancel culture.
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They're canceling the views of a vast majority of Americans.
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The founders had this crazy concept called freedom of speech.
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She didn't have a response to this issue because she was so afraid to even raise it.
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The girls like Peyton McNabb in North Carolina with the traumatic brain injury and permanent
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These politicians are absolutely ruthless in how they will say whatever they need to say,
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And he's also seeing some LGBTQ groups push back against him.
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I think it's Tufts came out and attacked him for these comments.
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OK, good luck, because you can't thread this one.
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You cannot say that this is for the protection of trans kids.
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You're going to have to learn how to say it like you did the first time.
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And then you got the backlash and now you're changing your messaging.
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They don't understand how strongly people feel about this.
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They don't understand that it's an issue from the heart, that it's moms and dads.
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We have a guest coming on second hour who helped get Trump elected, who worked in Arab
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communities, her group, getting them out to vote because they're sick of this and the
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They have more conservative like these two out there trying to pretend that they got
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it all along and they're the you know, they're going to be the moral guides for their this
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When we come back, United States Senator Rick Scott.
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Tomorrow morning, Republican senators are expected to select their new leader, now that they're
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in the majority, yay, to replace outgoing leader Mitch McConnell.
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A role that will be key to helping Trump get his aggressive agenda passed.
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Not everybody in the Senate is as conservative as the MAGA wing of the party would like.
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Some are a little squishy, and therefore wrangling the votes and making sure that everybody's
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on board to get Trump's agenda through is important.
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Two considered more establishment types, Senator John Thune of South Dakota and Senator John
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Cornyn of Texas, who are not totally beloved, especially the latter, by Team MAGA, though they have
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Like I mentioned, it looks like Josh Hawley might be backing Cornyn, according to the reports.
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But a third appears to be the MAGA favorite, and he's my guest now, Senator Rick Scott of Florida.
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So, all right, how do you like your chances, and why do you want the job?
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I've been up here six years, and I watched Republican leadership not get Trump's agenda
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So, we've got to figure out how to do that, because what's going to happen is the Democrats,
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Schumer's going to try to lead the effort to slow down all those nominees.
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So, it doesn't make any sense to me, but that's exactly what Schumer's going to do.
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So, number one, we've got to figure out how we get his nominees in place.
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Number two is, there's legislation he's going to need passed.
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We've got to do a tax plan through reconciliation, which takes 51 votes.
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So, we've got to have a plan to get that done, and we've got to corral 51 votes together
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There's going to be other legislation that we're going to need Democrats.
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Democrats, we're going to have to figure out how do we bring Democrats into the fold to
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get something done, and we have to get the House.
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So, I've got a great working relationship with President Trump, with the Speaker in the
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House, with the fiscal conservatives in the House, with Steve Scalise, Tom Emmer, the leaders
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You measure it, and then you get your stuff done.
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And I built the biggest hospital company in the world.
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This is how business guys get their stuff done.
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He needs a business guy running the Senate so we can get Donald Trump's agenda done.
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Now, End Wokeness, which is a great account on X, quoting the Heritage Foundation statistics,
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And this Twitter account pointing out, this isn't a hard decision, folks.
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But the pushback from their backers is, but what you really need is not somebody who is
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What you really need is somebody who knows how to work the Senate to get the votes, right?
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The important thing is to be well-liked and to be able to maneuver.
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And are you the best guy for that piece of the job?
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If you think about how you build companies, you work with people.
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I had probably something like 37 analysts on Wall Street that followed my stock.
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So you have to figure out how to get along with all those groups to get something done.
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When I was governor of Florida, we cut taxes and fees 100 times.
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We became number top five in K-12 education, 47-year low in our primary.
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It's how do you create a process to get these things done?
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But number one, you've got to be absolutely committed to getting it done.
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And I'm absolutely committed to getting Trump nominees through.
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And I'm absolutely committed to getting Trump's agenda done.
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Some say, okay, there's been a lot of tweeting by your supporters.
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And the pushback from the more establishment type publications is, well, they're not going
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The senators are not going to appreciate that, Senator Scott, that they're going to say he's
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We do not take kindly to a pressure campaign and its secret ballot, which is kind of, I
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don't know, it's a little messed up that it's secret ballot, I think.
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I don't understand why people can't just come out and say who they're voting for, because
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aren't they responsible to their constituents for who they put in leadership?
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Are you concerned about possible pushback to what some may perceive as pressure?
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Well, number one, I think it ought to be an open ballot.
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We ought to know how we're going to tell everybody how we're going to vote.
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Everybody knows when I vote for a judge or vote against a judge.
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That's why, you know, I have any, I have make it easy for people either to email or text
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So my experience up here is people, people want to get feedback.
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Of course, you know, you like everybody to agree with you, but they're not going to.
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So, but my job is, you know, I got elected to represent people and to tell them how I'm
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doing it and, and to be consistent with what I told them when I was going to, when I was
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And now I, my job is to go do everything I can to make sure that happens and, and take
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But I'm very appreciative of all the support I've gotten, uh, from, you know, from, uh,
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Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk and Robert Kennedy, Laura Trump.
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Uh, so I, I'm, I'm blessed with a lot of support and I'm very appreciative of all that
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Trump himself has not yet, uh, said who he's backing.
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If anyone, I think he's wisely trying to keep good relationships with everybody because
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Um, do you like, what's your thought on Mitch McConnell?
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I know that he's not very popular among the MAGA base.
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He's been hugely instrumental in getting, you know, these three Supreme court justices of
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Trump confirmed and so many judges on the federal bench, which is something I watch as somebody
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Because there's been a lot of blowback against him and also a suggestion that this vote is
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Well, number one, I ran against Mitch McConnell two years ago.
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Um, I think the way the Senate operates has to change.
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Uh, there's been two dictatorships in the Senate on the Republic side, Mitch McConnell and
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I believe we've got to treat all senators as equal.
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We need to have a robust amendment process and we've got to help.
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Let me just stop you there because the average person doesn't know what that means.
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But he, so the way he gets legislation through versus what you're saying you would like to
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Well, he would, he and Schumer would just sit down and negotiate themselves.
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Uh, we just did a continued resolution, which I completely opposed.
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And it was done between Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer without the input of, um, you
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know, every, every, every, every center, they expect us to vote on this.
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Um, they're going to try to cram an omnibus down our throat.
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We're not going to, it's not going to go through a committee.
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It's not, we're not going to be allowed to have any amendments to try to make it better.
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They're just going to say, nope, this is your stuck vote up or vote down.
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Last year, uh, they did this at Christmas over a trillion dollars, gave it to us a one
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Schumer and McCollum gave it to us, expected us to vote on it by nine o'clock in the morning
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Uh, so it ought to go through a committee, a bill ought to go through a committee where
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there's have plenty of input from outside speakers, from experts and let other senators
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say, oh no, I can make it better with this amendment on this amendment.
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And then we ought to bring it to the floor and we ought to have a robust amendment process
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to say, oh no, I think we ought to change it this way or that way.
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And what's been happening since I've been up here, I've been up here six years is either
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McCollum or Schumer, they'll decide on their own, a bill they'll bring to the floor, won't
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So my only choice is to say either I like it or I don't like it.
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Um, so it makes it, you know, so it's like, we're just little robots here.
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Um, so I think I, you should respect everybody.
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Everybody worked their butt to get off of get here.
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I respect everybody's vote, vote to represent your state.
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I got to ask you quickly, what do you make of this report that FEMA fired this woman
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now who is skipping the Trump, uh, the houses with the Trump signs in it.
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Allegedly she's claiming in response to some threats they purport to have received from
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I'm on the, I'm on the Homeland Security Committee.
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We ought to bring her in, bring her supervisors in.
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Let's get to the, let's get to the bottom of this.
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Uh, we had a lot of people hurt, uh, as a result of the, the storms we've had over
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the last two years and FEMA needs to do its job and needs to rep, you know, help everybody.
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Everybody should be helped, whether you're a Harris supporter, you're a Trump supporter.
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Um, so, I mean, this is, this doesn't make any sense, but look, I'm, I'm glad that FEMA
00:32:24.940
Uh, that's, that's, I think that might be my six years.
00:32:27.860
That's the only federal employee that's been fired and nobody wants to fire anybody, but
00:32:40.000
How deep do you think the anti-Trump sentiment is in federal agencies like FEMA?
00:32:48.340
I mean, we've seen some evidence inside FEMA just from this story, but from other stories
00:32:52.760
too, but there are so many executive agencies that Trump is now going to be in charge of.
00:32:59.540
And, you know, last time it was such an issue of the so-called deep state, however you want
00:33:08.840
Or is he up against all these same forces second time around?
00:33:14.900
The, you know, when I was, you know, I just finished my campaign for reelection.
00:33:18.420
And I asked people, do you feel comfortable that the federal agencies, whether it's, it's
00:33:24.260
Secret Service or Homeland Security or the FBI are going to tell us the facts of what happened
00:33:29.680
with the shooting of President Trump at Butler and not one hand is raised.
00:33:35.200
So the American, the American public has completely lost support of the federal government because
00:33:44.080
So, I mean, look at all these lawsuits against Trump.
00:33:50.680
They've done, I mean, everything under the sun.
00:33:55.380
That's why we have got to get his nominees done quickly.
00:33:59.120
So he has people in there to try to fix these agencies.
00:34:02.720
When I became governor of Florida back in January, 2011, they, you know, you had, I had to go
00:34:11.000
And sometimes more than once to get, find people that are willing to do, do the job.
00:34:17.060
I got elected on an agenda and I said, look, I'm going to appoint people that believe in
00:34:22.460
my agenda and I'm going to do it for the time period I'm elected.
00:34:27.420
I said, for those four years, we're going to, I'm going to appoint people that believe
00:34:31.140
in what I explained to the public and they voted for me as the same thing with Trump.
00:34:45.180
I hope Marco Rubio is going to be the secretary of state.
00:34:48.200
I mean, he's, he's picking some wonderful people so far that are going to work hard to
00:34:54.480
That's why I'm running to be the majority leader.
00:35:00.960
Yeah, I mean, I do think it's a mandate given the size of the win and I realize it's tight
00:35:07.540
in the house and relatively tight in the Senate, but I mean, Republicans won four seats.
00:35:12.760
That's as close to a mandate as you're going to get given this divided electorate and with
00:35:17.280
president Trump winning, not only the electoral college vote, but the popular vote.
00:35:23.180
That's not yet officially confirmed, but we believe he's going to be the one tapped by
00:35:36.080
Uh, there's wonderful congressmen and women in Florida, whether it's Marie Salazar or,
00:35:40.520
or, uh, Mario Dias Blard or Carlos Jimenez or Vern Buchanan or, uh, Laura Lee, Kat Kamek.
00:35:50.500
I'm trying to, I'm going to, I'm going to forget somebody's name, but there, we've got so many
00:35:54.980
great members of Congress that one of them, any one of those would be a great pick.
00:35:59.840
But does it have to be walk me through how that would go though?
00:36:04.020
The Republicans only have, we think, I mean, the voting goes on, right?
00:36:07.140
But they, we think we're going to land with a four seat majority, same as they had last
00:36:11.720
So we can't keep picking off Republican congressmen and women for these administration posts because
00:36:19.280
And then there's a process to replace them, but everything gets slowed down.
00:36:22.160
So do you think that counts against nominating or, you know, elevating a congressman?
00:36:28.560
It slows it down, but we've got a great attorney general, Ashley Moody.
00:36:33.180
We've got a great ag commissioner with Wilton Simpson.
00:36:35.140
There's, there's some wonderful people that have gone through the process, been elected statewide.
00:36:39.100
Uh, that would be great picks to be, uh, U S Senator.
00:36:43.100
Uh, and then there'll be another election in, in, in, uh, in two years, uh, for, uh, you
00:36:49.280
know, all right, let me throw something crazy out there, Senator Scott, something crazy.
00:36:58.620
Yeah, I think, I think he can appoint himself if you, if he wants to, it's my understanding.
00:37:03.300
I mean, he, you, you went from governor to Senator.
00:37:06.420
Do you, is there any chance that happens for him as Rubio potentially gets elevated?
00:37:12.340
I mean, I don't know if people have ever appointed themselves.
00:37:17.240
I mean, I don't think there's a limitation of pointing yourself.
00:37:19.860
So, um, I know he, I know he would work hard if he, if he, if he appointed himself.
00:37:24.920
So there's, we've got, we've got a great group of talent.
00:37:27.900
You can see like in, you know, Trump and I each won by 1.4 million votes.
00:37:31.660
We became, we made Florida, uh, the Republicans, uh, party center of the country, I think.
00:37:37.340
Uh, and so, and so you can see what Trump's nominees.
00:37:39.860
He's picking great people from Florida to be part of the Soothy Wiles was my first campaign
00:37:55.500
Uh, so she, she's a great, uh, supporter of Donald Trump.
00:38:01.540
Cause in, in the discussion about Trump needs to get his, uh, his cabinet secretary is confirmed.
00:38:06.300
He needs to get the judges he wants on the bench and so on.
00:38:12.400
It doesn't seem an accident now that, you know, cause we're having this leadership debate
00:38:15.520
to, for like a pledge that the Senate will allow recess appointments by him.
00:38:22.400
And can you just explain to the audience what that means?
00:38:25.220
Because most people have no idea what exactly he's asking you for.
00:38:32.180
Um, so what happens is the president will have the authority to make appointments.
00:38:37.160
Um, and he said nonjudicial, which I agree with that nonjudicial appointments, as long
00:38:45.700
I think, um, Bill Clinton did over a hundred appointments that way.
00:38:49.480
Uh, I think even George D.B. Bush did almost 170 appointments that way.
00:38:55.100
The only person that hasn't been allowed to do it is Donald Trump.
00:39:00.600
We, everything we can do to get his nominees done.
00:39:03.880
We know Chuck Schumer is going to try to slow it down and prevent them, uh, from, uh, starting
00:39:09.840
So, uh, doing a recess appointments, I think is something we ought to do.
00:39:13.340
We ought to figure out as a conference, how to get that done.
00:39:15.280
But can I just ask you, so is it the case that if you wanted to, let's say you win Senate
00:39:20.600
majority leader, if, if you wanted to, could you say, we're not doing any recess appointments
00:39:27.220
You could stop him making temporary appointments if you wanted to.
00:39:32.900
What they do is you just, you never get out of session for more than 10 days.
00:39:35.920
So you just, even if you're off, you have somebody come in and you have a pro forma session.
00:39:40.940
That's what, that's what they've, that's what they did to Donald Trump the last one,
00:39:45.480
They never allowed him to do any recess appointments, uh, by, uh, by doing that.
00:39:49.600
I believe we ought to let him do recess appointments.
00:39:52.200
We can, we should, we should talk, talk to, uh, him about who he wants to do, uh, make
00:39:57.500
sure Republican senators don't have a problem with them.
00:39:59.980
Uh, I think we're all going to be very supportive of his nominees.
00:40:03.340
Uh, if you look at the nominees he's done so far, I think they'll easily get all Republican
00:40:09.840
Uh, Lee Zeldin, uh, you know, all the, all these individuals, you know, at least upon
00:40:16.960
I mean, I can't imagine Republicans that are not supporting them.
00:40:19.820
No, I think all factions of the Republican party will, uh, support all these guys.
00:40:24.280
So yeah, that's an issue because you're getting pushed back from some of my friends at national
00:40:27.800
review saying, if you want to go ahead and cede your constitutional duty, you're supposed to be
00:40:32.400
a, an independent branch that, you know, has advice and consent.
00:40:36.840
You shouldn't just cede the, that duty just because you want to make president Trump happy.
00:40:42.600
What do you say to those folks who, and then we'll put that.
00:40:45.260
But, but I think the issue is not that we're ceding our authority.
00:40:48.480
What we're, what we're saying is we know, we know that Chuck Schumer is not going to act
00:40:53.280
in a responsible manner to allow Donald Trump to, to put his cabinet together and get his
00:40:58.960
So if that's the case and there's a way for the minority to slow the process down, uh,
00:41:04.840
make it very difficult for these nominees to all get confirmed, then we're going to have
00:41:09.660
to figure out how do we, on the other side, work with Donald Trump to get his nominees done.
00:41:20.800
Uh, I clearly support, uh, using the recess process to do it.
00:41:24.840
Uh, and we can do it in a manner that we're comfortable with the people that Donald Trump
00:41:31.380
Uh, if somebody were, if somebody was not, we can say, you know, we're okay with these,
00:41:37.560
So, but I think we ought to, we ought to be, do everything we can.
00:41:42.100
And we, the other thing was we need a transparent process.
00:41:44.980
So Donald Trump quickly gets everybody in place.
00:41:48.340
If somebody has major problems with people, let's, let's make sure that the Trump administration
00:41:53.300
knows it right away and see if we can resolve it.
00:41:56.500
You know, as a business guy, what I always did was talk to people, find out what the
00:42:01.720
common ground is, find out where the issues are, and then go try to solve them.
00:42:05.940
And that's what we ought to be doing with nominees.
00:42:08.840
I feel like Trump is transactional and probably doesn't have his heart set on any one particular
00:42:14.640
person for any one particular role, maybe other than the ones that we've, we're hearing
00:42:19.500
Like his first appointments are going to be his favorites and the ones he feels really
00:42:24.200
You don't even have to confirm the borders are, that's a non-confirmed position.
00:42:31.480
That's not something that needs to be confirmed.
00:42:32.940
So a lot of these roles, you're not going to have to get involved in.
00:42:35.880
And secretary's statement, everybody in the Senate seems to really like Marco Rubio and
00:42:41.520
I mean, we'll, we'll find out how, how that goes.
00:42:43.840
I want to ask you two other questions, if you don't mind from the other side, why they
00:42:48.940
say, well, maybe we have doubts about Senator Rick Scott.
00:42:51.120
So you can, you can convince people who need convincing.
00:42:56.540
As far as I can tell, Brit Hume was on Fox news, espousing one of them has to do with
00:43:00.820
when you ran the, uh, the group that's tried that tries to get more Republicans elected to
00:43:08.300
And we didn't have the greatest red wave in 2022.
00:43:12.380
And so Brit is giving voice to some of the criticisms around you connected to that.
00:43:19.400
And I actually think Senator Scott's kind of a long shot.
00:43:22.260
Um, the reason being that, um, for example, he was the head of the national Republican
00:43:26.580
senatorial committee in the 21, 22 election cycle, raised a ton of money.
00:43:30.200
As you may recall, the Republicans had a very disappointing result in those midterm elections.
00:43:34.460
And, uh, and there was a lot of questions about where all that money went, why it was
00:43:38.340
all spent so early in the process and, and how much of it was spent by Scott to, uh, to
00:43:45.420
Uh, and, and I don't think he's close to a lot of senators.
00:43:49.420
And I think this, this pressure from Trump world to support him is likely to backfire.
00:43:56.920
So we spoke to that last point already, but what do you make of that?
00:43:59.240
The money and the, it wasn't well spent or well planned.
00:44:04.860
Well, first off, clearly, uh, we all wanted to get a majority and we didn't.
00:44:09.580
Uh, and that first off, let's all acknowledge we wanted to get a majority, uh, in 22 and
00:44:14.280
we didn't, uh, fortunately we got a majority, uh, barely in the house.
00:44:18.360
Uh, but I can tell you, everybody worked their butts off to get a majority.
00:44:21.300
We had, we had candidates that worked their butts off.
00:44:24.040
We spent the money to, to, uh, to get our can selected, but you're right.
00:44:28.480
It was, uh, it was not, it was a disappointing year, but I can tell you that, uh, our candidates
00:44:34.800
Um, the, the people at the NRC worked hard and, and I'm glad we got, we have a majority
00:44:40.700
I want to thank everybody that, that ran this time and what they did.
00:44:44.400
And I think a lot of it was the, uh, Trump had ran a great race, which helped a lot of
00:44:51.920
And I can tell you, we worked all, we all worked our butts off.
00:44:54.400
And unfortunately, sometimes you win and sometimes you don't.
00:45:00.420
Um, lastly, uh, my pal, Dana Lash, she is not your fan.
00:45:05.620
She's an amazing person and she's very big on the pro second amendment thing.
00:45:09.380
And she does not like the fact that, um, you signed a red flag law.
00:45:20.560
She says you steamrolled over second, fourth and fifth amendment rights as governor, that
00:45:27.900
And, um, there is a group called the American firearms association that wants to know whether
00:45:34.100
you would support waiting periods on second amendment rights, whether you would abolish
00:45:39.460
They've got some concerns about whether we're going to be looking at more red flag laws,
00:45:43.300
um, under your leadership or whether you're pro two a enough.
00:45:47.700
Well, first off, I'm a big supporter of the second amendment.
00:45:54.080
I believe, um, it's very important we to defend the second amendment.
00:45:57.800
So in Florida, what was, uh, what the legislature passed, uh, was a bill after the Parkland shooting
00:46:03.340
that basically said, if you're threatening harm to yourself or threatening harm to somebody
00:46:09.800
else, you can go the, uh, somebody that knows you can go to law enforcement and law enforcement
00:46:16.060
can go to the, to the courts and the courts for a short period of time, uh, can say you
00:46:22.660
cannot have that weapon, but they have to go to the court system.
00:46:26.320
It has to be done by law enforcement and it's clearly not permanent.
00:46:30.180
Uh, the, it was passed, uh, through the, you know, by the Florida house and Senate, um,
00:46:38.160
They've decided, um, not to repeal it, uh, because it has worked in Florida.
00:46:44.000
Uh, we, you know, we, we put a lot of effort in to make sure we had a lot of school safety
00:46:49.260
Uh, we've added law enforcement in all of our public schools.
00:46:58.840
Uh, we did a lot of things to make sure our schools are safe.
00:47:02.260
And this was, this was one as a result of the, uh, 17 people died at Marjory Stoneman Douglas.
00:47:08.900
And if you talk to a sheriff's center of state, uh, it's worked, it's kept people safe, and
00:47:14.480
it has not, uh, infringed on anybody's second amendment rights.
00:47:21.040
I mean, she's, you should go on her podcast because she's, she'll have some tough questions
00:47:24.480
for you on this that I don't have, because this isn't really my issue, to be perfectly
00:47:28.940
Um, but yeah, that's, that's one of the objections.
00:47:31.760
The thing that I wonder about Senator is, will we see any difference?
00:47:36.100
You know, Thune and Cornyn, they've said some negative things about Trump.
00:47:40.420
I mean, I, I've seen that they, they kind of ripped on him when E. Jean Carroll came out.
00:47:44.820
They haven't been like staunch defenders of his.
00:47:47.800
Um, unlike yourself, but they are Republicans and it's not like you versus a Democrat.
00:47:58.820
But won't all three of you get Trump's agendas through?
00:48:04.380
Um, well, both, both John Thune and John Cornyn are friends and their colleagues.
00:48:08.000
I've worked with him for six years since I've been up here.
00:48:10.360
Um, so I, I just tell you my background as a business guy completely, you know, which
00:48:15.420
is, I think the way you get things done in life is you create a process.
00:48:20.120
You create a team, you measure the live and daylights out of results.
00:48:24.600
That's been, I built the largest hospital company in the world.
00:48:27.320
They built a variety of manufacturing companies.
00:48:30.360
We became number one, higher education, top, top five in K-12 education.
00:48:38.660
We worked every day for in a process and we measured things.
00:48:41.960
That's what, at my belief, that's what we need going forward.
00:48:44.980
If we're going to get things accomplished, we've got a lot of problems to get accomplished.
00:48:58.800
So it's going to take somebody that wants to create a process and go sell this to get
00:49:05.380
That's what, how I've gotten all my stuff done.
00:49:07.120
I'm a, I mean, think about, I'm a kid that grew up in public housing, born to a single
00:49:10.640
I figured out how to create processes and build teams to get things done.
00:49:16.240
Lastly, there's some nonsense being spewed by the left about possibly convincing Sotomayor
00:49:22.040
to step down off of the Supreme court reports are she's not willing to do that.
00:49:26.720
And then subbing in Kamala Harris and getting her confirmed before Joe Biden leaves office.
00:49:34.440
Is this anything that could actually happen with the U S Senate's approval between now and
00:49:42.300
I don't think there's any chance in the world that that could happen.
00:49:47.960
I can't imagine, uh, that they could, they could get that through.
00:49:51.500
Um, so, and I mean, that would be, that would be so foolish on their part because, uh, one,
00:49:58.680
I don't think Harris is qualified, uh, to have set unbelievable, unbelievably bad precedent.
00:50:06.700
I mean, she, we, we were never able to really confirm even how many cases she'd ever tried,
00:50:12.420
uh, while she was allegedly, you know, this John Wayne type DA and AG as she now claims
00:50:33.200
Why can't you find out who your Senator from your home state backed?
00:50:38.180
If you want Rick Scott, you want people to vote for Rick Scott.
00:50:41.860
Um, I don't know these, these, sometimes these governmental, uh, you know, politicians and bodies forget
00:50:53.420
I mean, look, worst case scenario, it's still a Republican in charge of the majority.
00:51:03.940
Even though Bob Casey has a challenge to his loss in Pennsylvania to Republican there, uh,
00:51:10.340
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00:53:01.560
For years, we've been hearing about the vaunted Democratic ground game.
00:53:13.840
And it was a real thing, especially under Barack Obama, that the left can get its supporters to vote at a higher rate than the right can.
00:53:22.320
After Harris raised a billion dollars and the polls were showing a tight race, many Republicans were worried this was going to happen again.
00:53:29.260
But in 2024, it was Trump who got his people to the polls.
00:53:35.880
We're going to talk now to someone who helped make it happen without a billion dollars.
00:53:41.760
She's the executive director of a group called America First Works.
00:53:46.120
She headed up their Project 19 program, which targeted the most important counties in this election and how.
00:54:05.660
It's not like a name that was out there all the time, like our friend Charlie Kirk or like Elon's group.
00:54:10.260
But we knew it was canvassing and trying to get voters out.
00:54:16.460
So we are the sister organization to the America First Policy Institute, which is run by Brooke Rollins and Linda McMahon and Larry Kudlow and many of the other former Trump administration officials.
00:54:33.460
And we really were focused on a lot of state policy.
00:54:36.260
So working in target states, advancing policy at the state level, advancing Trump America First policies at the state level.
00:54:43.640
And then in 2023, we had the opportunity to really look at, you know, how do we continue to build upon the movement?
00:54:51.760
And this was before I think President Trump even announced.
00:54:54.620
But we started talking to different organizations.
00:54:56.860
We started looking at how we can grow with, you know, Hispanic voters and women voters and Black Americans and parents.
00:55:04.580
And my background, I worked on the Trump 2020 campaign.
00:55:13.620
And I knew that the inroads that President Trump and his message could make.
00:55:17.600
So to be able to continue that mission was absolutely critical.
00:55:21.260
Lee Zeldin is on the board of America First Works.
00:55:23.980
He was really a key integral part of this, given that he ran for governor and got almost 50% of the vote in a state that had only 23% Republican registration.
00:55:35.160
So how do we take that model and apply it to the battleground states, really targeting low and no propensity voters?
00:55:52.760
This was in our office on Pennsylvania Avenue at the time.
00:56:00.640
And from that meeting, we realized this has to be so much bigger.
00:56:07.780
So there was about 50 organizations that met on April 3rd at the Willard Hotel.
00:56:12.020
And we had a briefing from Kellyanne Conway on polling.
00:56:15.820
Lee Zeldin, you know, made some remarks about his race in New York.
00:56:18.780
And then we did a data presentation where we looked at the numbers and determined where we needed to be and which audiences we needed to target.
00:56:26.860
And we talked about who was going to do what where.
00:56:33.080
And one of the biggest gaps that we saw at American First Works was the ground game.
00:56:37.020
And that was when we realized this was our opportunity to step up and help with ground game.
00:56:41.340
And that was, Megan, right when the FEC opinion came to fruition as well.
00:56:46.360
And that was a game changer, I think, for the movement.
00:56:49.420
We we were all in my lane media speculating about how, geez, it's a risky bet because she's got reportedly voters like women who are high propensity voters who have a track history, a track record of getting out there.
00:57:04.320
Even in the midterm, even in the local elections, they vote, they vote and Trump's relying on these lower propensity or never before voters.
00:57:15.360
You as far as I can tell, that's not untrue that that was true.
00:57:20.340
But you guys were looking at those low propensity or never before voters saying they're gettable.
00:57:30.400
And I think one of the untold stories was the women who showed up for President Trump who did not show up for Kamala Harris.
00:57:37.000
So at that April 3rd meeting, one of the things we talked about was that there is a massive gender gap across the country, especially in states like Georgia and North Carolina, where you have 10 to 12 percent more women participating in elections than men.
00:57:49.760
And we even told some of the moms groups that were there, moms for liberty, moms for America, you know, in 2016, Hillary Clinton said you need to husbands, you know, told their wives how to vote.
00:58:00.420
Well, now we need to tell moms you need to tell your husband to go vote.
00:58:03.980
And that's exactly what happens leading up to the election up to, you know, the weekend before the media was completely gaslighting conservatives and the public saying that Harris had historic support for women.
00:58:16.680
There was at that point in the battleground states, one hundred and twelve thousand more Republican women, women that had already voted and five hundred thousand no and low five hundred thousand Democrat women that had not voted yet.
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That's a six hundred thousand vote swing not in favor of Harris.
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She had a massive, a massive disadvantage amongst women.
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And we saw that play out on Election Day as well.
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So when you saw the Harris campaign send out that messaging and The New York Times reported the same messaging, that there had been this huge spike in female voter registration in Pennsylvania and that they were there, they were coming like they were showing up in droves.
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That's that was what the report was, that they were not not the registration, but they were showing up in droves in the early voting.
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And we put a tweet out and I did a couple of media hits that this is not true.
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But, Megan, like you can't say what is a woman?
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You can't make women feel unsafe and have, you know, illegal aliens kill young girls on a jog at her university and think women are going to show up for you.
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So President Trump was delivering the message, you were delivering the message, and it made it very easy for us in America First Works to connect that message to the people and make sure America First voters were showing up and not Democrat voters.
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They stayed home because they can't buy into this craziness from the radical left.
00:59:45.760
Was there one particular message for all the groups or did the message change depending on which voters you were targeting?
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So in a lot of ground games, people will hire like a firm and they'll subcontract to a bunch of different firms.
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We tried to choose firms because ours was all paid canvassing that were best for that area.
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So, you know, we had part of Brian Kemp's team that ran our Georgia program.
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We had the Frederick Douglass Foundation that reached out to Black Americans.
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And those boys, there's 20 of them, young men, they knocked on tens of thousands of doors in Dearborn.
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And I believe they're part of the reason that Dearborn flipped was because they were taking the Trump policies and delivering it to their actual community.
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So we tried to get people that, you know, it's it's if you are you like me, do I like you?
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We sent videos with Hunter Nation, another C4 organization of Ted Nugent, to hunters and Second Amendment people.
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So you had to have the right message, but overall or the right messenger.
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So my understanding is it took an average of about three text messages to these low propensity voters to convert them into I guess you got about 40 percent of them to actually the ones you targeted to the polls.
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And it was so it was two texts on messages and then the third text on let's go like now it's time.
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So we did three door knocks, three visits, physical visits, like someone going to their house.
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And then in addition to that, we had a text messaging program.
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The cool thing about the text messaging program was we had a team of 50 volunteers who would actually reply to the text messages.
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So if you got a text message from Riley Gaines, for example, and you replied back and I'll be honest, sometimes they were just like F you.
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We would say, oh, I'm so sorry that we bothered you, but we just wanted to make sure you had your polling place.
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And they were blown away that there was someone on the other end that was actually reading the text messages.
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The day after the election, Megan, we started sending text messages out again to every low and no propensity voter who's Republican, Democrat and independent saying, welcome to the America First movement.
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What do you want to see on day one of a new administration?
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Because now we've built these relationships, we have to expand our base.
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We went up with black Americans, Hispanic Americans, women, youth.
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This is our opportunity to make sure that people feel heard and that we connect them with these policies and make this the most successful first hundred days of any administration.
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I know this is anecdotal, but I mean, the youth vote did turn out for Trump in a way that it normally never does for a Republican.
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But what's I'm sure you've seen these videos of all these young, beautiful women like in bikinis and the red MAGA hat dancing.
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The MAGA label, the hat, the message far from being toxic as it was considered by many eight years ago.
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That was the result of, yes, President Trump, but also these door knocks and the constant messaging from people like you.
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Well, and I have four daughters and I have one boy and this election to me, I think like a lot of moms, was personal.
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And when you hear the stories, we did an event in Scottsdale, Arizona, and it was two moms that lost their sons to fentanyl poisoning.
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One was a senior in high school, super overachiever.
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The other one was in college and the stories were devastating.
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I could hardly get through the conversation with them because I was so moved to tears.
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And I think just being able to take those stories and connect them to people is what really changed hearts and minds.
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There's a cool side of it, of course, you know, with the Swifties for Trump and you see such a cultural shift, too.
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Our athletes have been phenomenal in, you know, carrying the America first banner.
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But I think for so long, too, just a little bit of a separate point is we have been shamed to be Americans.
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And we've had the elite and the woke and the leftists try and force such garbage down our throats that we should feel sorry for that when we're the reason the world can continue in a way that doesn't have three wars break out like we just saw this past administration.
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So I know you called it back to your meeting, Project 19, because you were prioritizing 19 counties across the swing states.
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So it was technically Project 21, but you stuck with the old name.
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And then fanned your volunteers out to go work these counties and try to make them as red as possible or turn them red if they weren't already.
01:05:02.480
What what were the most persuasive issues like the the boys and girls sports?
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Was that universal or was that only deployed in, you know, the reddest counties?
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Everywhere we went, it was the cost of living prices.
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And the third issue that we heard predominantly in Michigan, which I think is extremely interesting, was education.
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And I think education in Michigan is interesting because you have a governor who had forced lockdowns so hard on those families that when school started back up again in September, they were kind of shocked that, you know, their kids weren't performing well and that they were still very far behind.
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So I think that's going to lay the groundwork for future governor races.
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And it's something that we're thinking about already.
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I mean, you're going from your anecdotal experiences with all your folks out on the ground.
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We talked about this on the show yesterday, but there's this public opinion research initiative that's trying to they're trying to help Democrats called Blueprint.
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And they just did a postmortem on on what they're hearing caused the Democrats to lose.
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And they went and did surveys in all these states.
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And what they found was that for minorities who crossed over to vote for Trump, in particular, like blacks and Latinos, by far, the number one issue was the economy and immigration.
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But for swing state voters writ large, it was described as follows.
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Kamala Harris is focused more on cultural issues like transgender issues rather than helping the middle class, that this trans thing really moved votes.
01:07:03.660
I'm amazed and horrified, but they did not care whether the candidates supported the coronavirus lockdowns, which is just OK.
01:07:13.100
But I wonder if people completely misread, for example, the Muslim issue you mentioned, the Arabs, because in communities like that and Latinos, too, even though it wasn't their number one issue.
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We can we can see that according to this survey, we saw story after story the past two years of them showing up and protesting outside of schools, saying, get this disgusting pornography out of the K through 12 libraries.
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And then 60 Minutes did a whole piece with with Moms for Liberty, trying to say it wasn't happening and that they were just making this stuff up.
01:07:49.720
And you're pointing out like these are much more conservative groups like in Dearborn, Michigan, who they're not going to tolerate this stuff.
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And we had a mail piece that went into Dearborn.
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It was mailed to, you know, Arab American, Black Americans.
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And it was this is your transgender story hour coming to a library near you.
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And it was transgender reading a story to these young children.
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And it highlighted the policies of the left on how they've tried to push this woke transgender pornography garbage agenda to our kids.
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The funny thing is, is one of our door canvassers got it in the mail and he heard his sister yell like, what the hell is this?
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And his dad started texting it to all of the they have they're all on WhatsApp.
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So he started texting it out to all of the Arab American WhatsApp groups that we got so many antidotes of people who said, you know, I've never voted.
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And remember, that was a big issue that took place in Dearborn with the books and the schools.
01:09:08.080
And it's not something that I think most people who have common sense, who want to protect children, will tolerate.
01:09:15.740
But especially in the black American, Hispanic and Arabic communities, it was just absolutely mind blowing that this is something that, you know, the left wants to perpetuate.
01:09:28.300
I mean, it's like we need to keep all of this in mind as we watch the Democrats do their postmortem and decide we're going to make this change and that change, but we're not going to make the other change.
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And they're tearing themselves apart right now over the cultural issues because while they might be able to settle on some economic faux populism that they think they can sell, this, the cultural stuff is deep in their bloodstream now.
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And I just I don't see a future for them until they manage to excise it.
01:10:03.720
Well, and the other issue that we came across, too, especially with, you know, the historically underserved lower socioeconomic communities is the schools are already crowded.
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And now you have an influx of illegal aliens coming in.
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They are getting free food, free housing, Playstations.
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Their their kids spots are taking my kids spots in school.
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You don't even have, you know, a strong education system.
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They were so angry that this administration, both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and everyone in between, would open our borders, give them whatever they wanted.
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And they're sitting there thinking, wait a minute.
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And that that was very resounding from especially the lower socioeconomic communities.
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Well, that's what's so interesting about Trump's border plan and his deportation plan, because the vast majority of Americans are going to support these people being deported.
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Obviously, the criminals, everyone wants them deported.
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But then there will be additional deportations beyond that, just as there were under President Obama and all most presidents, most modern day presidents.
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President Obama deported, I think, three million people.
01:11:26.600
And so I think the Democrats are planning on this being a daily news story where people will be crying and this is going to generate interest amongst their base that will be anti-Trump.
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I think they're in for a rude awakening because the people you're talking about, we've covered these news stories, want their community center back.
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They don't want their children to have to learn every subject in four different languages because you've got translators from all over the world now, at least here in New York, by school mandate to translate everything into whatever the native tongue is.
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I mean, it's gotten to the point of true absurdity and it's unmanageable.
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And we're already starting to hear about it from the left.
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But this is the things that they're losing their mind over are the policies that President Trump won over with the American people.
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So it's like they haven't learned their lesson yet.
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And I think we just have to keep capitalizing on it and continue to make these make these gains.
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My goal moving forward is to continue to build on these relationships that we've built since June.
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That's when we first started our initial door knocks where it started in late June and just continue to build upon the relationships, keep the momentum going and go direct to consumer.
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It shouldn't just be, oh, see you again in 18 months.
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If we don't build upon the success, we're going to lose people in the process.
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I think people are really excited about what's to come.
01:12:53.760
And so if we can just view our voters like customers and provide service to them and make sure that they're getting your message, Megan, and the President's message and Elon's message and RFK Jr.
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I mean, we have so much opportunity ahead of us.
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Let's just let's just keep, you know, pedals in the metal and keep going.
01:13:12.820
Yes, yes, because there's going to be agenda items he has to get through and he's going to need the squishy members of the House and Senate to get on board.
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And that's where your organization will become relevant again to get that get the support.
01:13:27.220
Let's talk about the Kamala Harris ground game is this is very interesting.
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Like what happened? What happened to the vaunted ground game?
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My my team pulled this great soundbite of Wajahat Ali, leftist commentator on CNN and other channels.
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This is the same guy. The audience knows the clip by now who's in the Don Lemon clip with Rick Wilson, like them Republicans making fun of the way they talk,
01:13:50.080
like as if the Republicans would be sitting there going those Democrats with their maps and like their books.
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That was them. So for the audience, that's who you're about to hear.
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A guy who looks at the right half of the country that way.
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And here he was. What show is he on, Steve? Was it Piers Morgan?
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Yeah, he was on Piers. Watch this before on election day.
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Righteous rage of women is going to be felt tomorrow.
01:14:12.800
Piers, I've been saying on your show for a year.
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I believe I'm going to say in front of the camera and if I'm wrong, I'm going to come back in your show.
01:14:25.880
The X factor is going to be women, independents, Republicans voting against Trump and people of color.
01:14:38.080
So what do you say to him, Ashley? How did he get it so wrong?
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The righteous rage of women came from women who voted against Kamala Harris.
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Because like I said in the beginning, you can't ask what is a woman and literally put women in the most unsafe positions over the course of your entire administration and then think they're going to show up and support you.
01:15:02.480
And many women, I think like you, Megan, and myself, we're voting for our kids.
01:15:06.640
We're voting for their future and just voting against the complete lunacy of the garbage that they're trying to put in our schools, that they're trying to indoctrinate our children with.
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And so it's just, it's absolutely hilarious that this is how out of touch the elites are versus the real American people.
01:15:29.760
We heard for months throughout the summer into the fall that she had a ground game.
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I was getting reports, so our canvassers were paid door knockers.
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That was their job was to go knock door to door.
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And when I read those reports, we weren't seeing them on the ground until after Labor Day in some places.
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Like in Michigan, they sent two guys to Dearborn and they were there for maybe a week and left.
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Maybe they were there and we were in different routes or different streets, but their ground game did not exist.
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The other issue that we read was helpful to you.
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Was the stolen valor allegations against Tim Walz?
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We saw veterans show up very early, very quickly.
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Um, we did canvas and did text messaging to veterans, but usually in these types of races and
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presidential races, the VP is somewhat irrelevant, but Tim Walz was the goofiest choice.
01:16:43.280
I still don't understand how she, I think she got stuck with him because Shapiro and Kelly didn't
01:16:48.260
want to tie their pitch, their wagon to her, to be quite honest.
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And the media, CNN, especially gaslit the American people again about his service, made
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people feel bad for questioning his title, um, his rank.
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He continued to use it and use it throughout the campaign.
01:17:16.680
And I mean, the, also the flips of him trying to load a shotgun was hysterical.
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Uh, he doesn't even know how to unload his gun.
01:17:25.740
And then you have JD Vance who actually has served his country, who is, you know, a great
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And you have such a strong contrast between the two of them.
01:17:40.920
It's amazing, especially in a day and age when we're lamenting how woke the military
01:17:45.220
is to have this guy touting his own military service, which he falsified in large part.
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Uh, I mean, he served, but his title, he falsified and whether and where he served became an issue
01:17:58.960
I mean, as woke as they come transing kids in Minnesota who don't even live there, who
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seizing custody from parents who actually live out of state, not to mention tampon Tim in
01:18:09.000
the bathrooms, like he, I'm sure those military members who are sick of this woke military
01:18:15.040
understood exactly what they'd be getting if they had four more years of a Democrat administration,
01:18:27.020
And we're, we're back on like the lies being put out.
01:18:29.480
We talked about how women they're surging in Pennsylvania, that Iowa poll had a lot of
01:18:48.640
The early vote, there was like a nine point advantage for conservatives.
01:18:54.860
Um, it was very much, I think a tactic to maybe distract conservatives or try to distract
01:19:00.020
conservatives from what was actually happening.
01:19:02.500
And what was happening was she was just getting absolutely creamed in Iowa.
01:19:06.260
Um, that poll also does not have any transparency.
01:19:08.900
You couldn't really see any of the cross tabs, but just based on the early vote and the voter
01:19:14.060
registration, uh, president Trump had a massive advantage in Iowa.
01:19:20.480
So, and it was proved, it was proven true on election day.
01:19:24.440
When you watched these polls, which all along said it's tight, tight, tight, tight, tight.
01:19:28.680
And of course, look, I mean, president Trump, it'll wind up being maybe a one, two point
01:19:35.340
So you can make the argument it's tight, but he won all seven of the swing States, all seven
01:19:45.860
And you said, let's double down, let's triple down.
01:19:49.840
We'll double and triple down anyway, just to be safe.
01:19:54.860
Well, no matter what the poll said, we always ran like we were 30 points behind.
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And we always tried to maximize every dollar that our investors gave us.
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And we wanted to make sure that we had the highest return on our investment.
01:20:06.500
So working with our pathway partners was critical, making sure that we were, we had data and we
01:20:11.180
were, we were making every decision using data and metrics that was critical for us.
01:20:15.340
But also when we were looking at the numbers, we knew we had to bank votes.
01:20:19.560
So going into election day, we knew that we had banked over 604,000 votes for, you know,
01:20:26.640
concern for president Trump, um, that he didn't, and the left was behind like a million votes
01:20:34.060
So we knew going into election day, we had done our job.
01:20:46.280
So if you can figure out the math problem, then you can win.
01:20:51.600
That must've been very comforting because those of us who are on the outside, just relying on
01:20:55.300
these pollsters, very frustrating because you just had like, I think most of us had a feel.
01:21:00.480
It was like so many more lawn signs for Trump than we'd ever seen before.
01:21:05.080
So many people being open about their support for Trump.
01:21:07.720
The huge rallies that which the left continued to tell us we're not huge.
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We can, for a presidential candidate, they're huge.
01:21:16.240
The only time she got the big crowds is when Beyonce was there or some performer, which
01:21:20.040
is why they got paid millions of dollars so she could boost her.
01:21:26.600
The pollsters across the board were saying it's tight.
01:21:32.620
Was there anything in the Democrat vaunted ground game of old, like the Barack Obama one
01:21:41.680
Data, technology, and their mantra was always vote blue no matter who.
01:21:53.300
In this particular case, we knew we needed to up our game on data.
01:21:57.060
So the Democrats are very good about sharing information.
01:22:00.620
And that is where I think sometimes conservatives aren't as strong.
01:22:04.000
So for us, we created our AFW data command is what we call it.
01:22:08.520
And we had data shares with different organizations, including the Trump campaign.
01:22:12.640
And so because of the FEC opinion, which said that we could legally work with, you know, federal
01:22:18.560
So we legally worked with the NRSC, the president's campaign, the RNC, and some of the Senate races.
01:22:28.100
That was a game changer for us because we were able to build universes based off of our data
01:22:34.540
And then we could also share that with other 501C4 organizations so that they could be successful.
01:22:39.480
Because the more successful they are, the more successful the whole movement is.
01:22:44.780
Like the Charlie Kirk group, like the Elon group, for example.
01:22:48.100
And I mean, Hunter Nation, they specifically target Second Amendment.
01:22:51.760
Moms for America, Moms for Liberty, Targeting Moms, Faith and Freedom Coalition, I mean,
01:23:00.760
We ended up with almost 100 organizations by the end of it that we were working with to
01:23:07.780
The other thing that I think was a complete game changer was having Laura Trump and Michael
01:23:11.940
Watley as the head of the RNC on election integrity.
01:23:14.900
We would have an issue pop up and it would be resolved literally in minutes.
01:23:19.060
It was completely different from what I experienced in 2020.
01:23:26.040
So if we saw an issue pop up in Wisconsin, or if we saw there was an issue with some of
01:23:32.340
the ballots in Pennsylvania, for example, there was a couple of people who said that a deceased
01:23:39.920
They were able to take issue on that like right away.
01:23:46.680
So we started working in Bucks County in 2023 and the chair there is amazing, the Republican
01:23:54.280
But in Bucks County, we had so many people showing up for early, early votes.
01:23:59.320
The lines were super long and they had like one person working in one of the locations.
01:24:04.680
The party was able to file a lawsuit to extend the vote deadline to Friday at 5 p.m.
01:24:13.300
I don't think that would have happened in 2020.
01:24:15.960
And it gave us extra time to, again, those relationships with those text messages, have
01:24:19.840
conversations saying, hey, just so you know, there's a two hour hour wait, but it's going
01:24:26.740
And that's really because there was such a quick, rapid response on any sort of election
01:24:32.740
I have to say, it's like Laura Trump took a lot of crap when she got elevated to that
01:24:37.060
position by people who are like, what are her qualifications to help run the RNC?
01:24:42.240
And I remember at first saying, I don't totally understand the choice, but I'm open minded.
01:24:46.440
And I went and contacted some of the people I know who have been high up in that organization.
01:24:52.720
It's actually does make sense because the partnership makes sense.
01:24:56.400
He can be responsible for some of the more of the traditional organizational things.
01:25:00.580
And she can be somebody who people really respond to when it comes to fundraising and
01:25:04.880
outreach and messaging as she already had been for Trump.
01:25:08.420
And people said, oh, it's going to be too pro-Trump.
01:25:11.880
We need somebody who's going to help on the mission of getting this guy elected.
01:25:17.040
That was so that was actually a really smart decision.
01:25:21.280
And I think a lot of people forget that there was so much distrust in the RNC from a lot of
01:25:27.200
the base because of all of the problems that happened in 2020 and 2022.
01:25:33.700
And one of the things I in my conversations with James Blair or Brian Swenson, it was they
01:25:40.580
understood that and having Laura, who was part of the Trump family, helped bridge that gap.
01:25:45.980
I had the privilege of working with Laura on the 2020 campaign.
01:25:49.340
She is the most dynamic, hardworking, high energy person.
01:25:54.600
And I thought she was the perfect person, like I said, just to bridge that gap and kind
01:25:58.120
of restore trust in that institution that people were just really doubting.
01:26:02.380
And so having them, you know, having the smarts of Michael Watley, who North Carolina has run
01:26:07.540
seamlessly for so long, and he knows that operations mechanical side of it, you know, and also
01:26:14.620
That was really, I think, the secret sauce that made the election integrity world move
01:26:21.620
No, I mean, she was roundly criticized for thinking she could do that job.
01:26:25.340
And I haven't heard a lot of apologies to her by her detractors now that she's helped deliver
01:26:33.360
Let's talk about the numbers, because there's something interesting in the numbers.
01:26:38.220
I don't know when we're ever going to have the final couch, thanks to our friends in
01:26:41.300
But it looks like Trump will get just above the 74 million votes that he got in 2020,
01:26:46.620
and that Kamala Harris will be around 10 million votes behind what Joe Biden received.
01:27:01.240
So is this election more about Republicans getting to the polls, or is it more about Democrats
01:27:14.760
I think there's a combination of both, to be honest.
01:27:19.100
The demographics have changed, you know, in a lot of ways with the increase of young women,
01:27:30.000
I think there may be some people, and we won't know until we see the final numbers, but I think
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that there are some people who were undecided that may have been more left-leaning, because
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And I think only time will tell on some of those pieces once we get the data back on who stayed
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home and who actually turned out on election day.
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I think it's going to show that maybe more people who were really upset with who were,
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you know, independent but leaning left, they may have just stayed home and didn't want to
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So that's going to be, we will know this probably in February, March.
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I mean, it's fascinating just to hear, I want all the postmortems.
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I want to hear every single word about how it happened and what she was doing that didn't
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What, can you explain your take on ticket splitting?
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Because the Republicans did not, you know, they won 53 houses or seats in the Senate, which
01:28:38.000
So why, why, why would somebody go into the ballot booth and check yes for Trump, but no
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for the Republican Senate candidates in those states?
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So in a couple of those, uh, states, what we saw was there was a higher number of people
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who Democrats who voted for the Senate candidate and didn't vote for president at all.
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Be somebody who would go in like and vote for Jackie Rosen, but not vote for Kamala Harris.
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So they just, they were very turned off by such a middle finger.
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And also in Nevada, you can actually choose none of the above, none of the candidates as
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The other thing I will say though, is that on those Senate races, they were all outspent
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So the Democrat candidates had such a bigger war chest to tell their story as opposed to
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And that does have a really big impact, especially in the States on those down ballot races.
01:29:44.740
Well, yeah, because Trump was outspent outspent three to one to their latest report is he spent
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about 300,000 and change and she spent a billion, but he had so much earned media.
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I mean, everyone in the world is interested in what Donald Trump is saying and doing, and
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Just that I mean, truly just by snapping his fingers.
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But you can't do that if you are, you know, a Nevada senatorial candidate, it's just not
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So the money does make a difference in those smaller races.
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And in Michigan, for example, a slot can had raised like $40 million and Mike Rogers raised
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Like that's just, it's just astronomically different when you have that much more money.
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But again, compound that with the people who showed up and said, I'm not voting for president,
01:30:38.360
And I think that was also some of the messaging too, from, I think the pro Palestine, pro Hamas
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movement really hurt them because they had campaigned for months, the grassroots on, you know,
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vote, no commitments, don't vote for presidential.
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And it wasn't until like the week before the election did they say, well, I guess we should
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You have literally spent the past year convincing your people to sit out and now you're going
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It was, it was, the damage was done on that point.
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01:33:13.740
You know, I was just thinking about the situation with a FEMA worker in Florida,
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and it's like the messaging that was sent, we've seen the internal FEMA emails now.
01:33:23.220
The messaging sent was avoid homes advertising Trump.
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It was not avoid 844 and 846 on such and such a lane because somebody made a threatening call.
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That doesn't justify ignoring homes advertising Trump, which they know.
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And there does need to be a full investigation into this disgusting development in FEMA.
01:33:56.360
OK, let's get to our audience here who's calling in.
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We've had a lot of Florida stuff happening on the show today.
01:34:05.420
Dustin, how are you feeling about last Tuesday?
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Listen, I got to I got to tell you, I told your call screener, I feel absolutely like
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a million ton weight was just lifted off my shoulders last week.
01:34:28.240
But like you and like Sean Hannigan, you people on the radio that I listen to today, like,
01:34:42.920
But God, can you imagine if we would have woke up last week and it was the other way?
01:34:49.040
I was saying like privately to my husband and I, we talk about it every day.
01:34:52.340
And he's like, what do you think is going to happen?
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And I would just say, I think Kamala is going to win.
01:34:56.160
I didn't actually have a thought on whether Kamala is going to win.
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But I would say it just to get myself like ready for it.
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And I wouldn't be one of these blubbering fools.
01:35:06.500
Because I didn't want to be one of those idiots who is out there crying.
01:35:11.220
If she won, I was like, might as well just ease myself into it because it's a possibility.
01:35:14.560
I knew I wouldn't need any easing if Trump won.
01:35:17.280
And hasn't it just been the most glorious seven, eight days?
01:35:21.980
I mean, you know, even watching some of the liberals melt down between everything from
01:35:25.640
Glenn Beck all the way to Mark Levin every day.
01:35:32.100
And you replaced Rush for me because I grew up since I was 13 years old listening to him.
01:35:39.140
Listening to the clips you guys play of these people melting down, it's like, you know,
01:35:44.060
at first I want to say, oh, you're just so stupid.
01:35:46.860
But I really think they're just misinformed people.
01:35:51.340
But there's a lot of people in this country that have no clue.
01:36:09.380
Let's take a walk down to Rob in Texas has thoughts on Carrie Lake.
01:36:17.380
Well, I'm just wondering if she has a position in the Trump administration.
01:36:21.300
But first I wanted to say that when we found out that Trump won, I thought back to your book when you had done a case in front of two professors and you didn't know, but you found out later that they did a hi-fi to each other when you left the room.
01:36:49.740
Yeah, that they kept it a secret how they felt about the audition, but it went well.
01:36:58.560
I'm thrilled for Trump because it's such an amazing comeback.
01:37:03.380
And then the team of Avengers he's bringing in there, I can't wait, can't wait for them to get to work.
01:37:12.960
Mark in Virginia, which, you know, we're trying to make a swing state again.
01:37:24.180
By the way, Megan, when you were speaking with Trump on stage, I thought I missed it.
01:37:31.600
I sat there with my little finger and rewound the whole video to see that I hadn't missed you yet.
01:37:36.860
So I was so glad that you actually made it on stage and you did a wonderful job.
01:37:42.240
And I got to tell you, you're the reason that I'm renewing my XM subscription this year.
01:37:50.200
Oh, I really hope the serious brass is listening to this.
01:37:56.200
And I got to tell you, I mean, I was the Fox News junkie.
01:37:59.940
That's that's where I was, you know, first saw you.
01:38:02.560
But I flipped between you and back on election night.
01:38:13.260
I feel like only the dinosaurs are still watching cable news.
01:38:16.540
It's like I turn to cable news when there's like a breaking weather event.
01:38:20.680
And other than that, and I'll tell you something, this is not a nice fact about me, Mark.
01:38:24.320
But since we're so close and you said all those nice things about me and Sirius, I'm going to tell you.
01:38:29.720
I I have a TV in my studio here as as of the election night.
01:38:35.680
I don't normally have the TV in here, but they put it up so we could see the results coming in.
01:38:41.420
So Steve Krakauer, my EP, was like, we should make your commentary on this into a show.
01:38:46.900
I it's been like 10 years without seeing any of these cable news people.
01:39:00.840
They're having the same stilted, guarded, fake conversations that last four minutes long with like the stupid panels.
01:39:10.160
Well, I'm so proud of you for taking the leap that you did after everything with Fox and NBC.
01:39:20.640
So it's just this is a thrill just to be able to say hi to you.
01:39:24.780
And I hope you and your hubby have a great Hanukkah and Christmas.
01:39:42.880
Just wanted to say I am a Californian Republican.
01:39:46.500
I voted for Donald Trump straight down the party line.
01:39:52.260
And I can't tell you how much of a relief has lost my shoulders.
01:39:57.660
I can't wait for all the wonderful things that he's going to do to help our business, to help
01:40:06.080
My husband and I have just been so excited and I haven't stopped smiling and I haven't
01:40:23.480
I feel genuinely euphoric, which as a cynical mofo newswoman, I don't often feel like it
01:40:30.280
takes something wonderful for my children to make me feel euphoria generally.
01:40:33.620
But this week, I have felt totally euphoric about our country and the future.
01:40:43.680
I mean, we still would have been here if she had won, but it would have been, I don't know
01:40:47.520
how we would have gotten the number of illegals that are crossing the border under her out.
01:40:52.100
I just like, we're already looking at 10 to 20 million.
01:40:54.700
There would have been maybe 10 to 20 million more.
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That's a country that it's not going to change back.
01:41:00.640
I completely agree with you, and it's very hard to be a conservative in California, so
01:41:13.660
I was just, I haven't heard many people talking about the fact that, well, other than the left,
01:41:25.420
And I just have to say, you'd be hard pressed, in my world at least, to find anyone who would
01:41:32.700
not vote for a woman as president, just not this woman.
01:41:38.560
Kevin, I believe everywhere, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote.
01:41:43.220
Like, why are they still spewing this nonsense on us, right?
01:41:49.520
And he's black, because that's the other thing they blame it on, right?
01:41:52.040
Like, she was a woman, and she's a person of color.
01:41:54.520
This is baloney excuse-making she lost because of inflation, immigration, culture issues.
01:42:08.300
Thanks to all of our callers and our listeners.
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I want to tell you tomorrow, Bill Ackman's on the program.
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By the way, send me an email if you didn't get to call in.