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00:06:45.780And very quickly, guns are drawn, and he's out of frame right there on his way.
00:06:52.500And indeed, he was not shot, but one Secret Service agent was.
00:07:00.100Several rounds were fired, and we do not know exactly how that one officer was shot.
00:07:08.460So one Secret Service officer was shot.
00:07:10.740Thankfully, he was wearing his vest and has already been released from the hospital.
00:07:15.740But it's unclear if the would-be assassin shot him or whether he was shot by friendly fire.
00:07:23.800That'll be one of the things that they investigate.
00:07:26.600The suspect was not shot, so the Secret Service did not manage to hit him.
00:07:33.780Allen, though, did not make it beyond the terrorist level.
00:07:37.820He was taken down, and you could see him on his stomach in pictures with his clothing removed.
00:07:44.840but he did not get close to Trump. He did not get past that terrorist level. He was up a level
00:07:52.080above. As you can see here in this diagram from the Daily Mail, he wasn't that far away either.
00:07:57.440And this, don't kid yourself, could have been truly catastrophic at one of those most high
00:08:02.980profile events in Washington. I mean, many of us are asking how this could have happened.
00:08:09.580Like truly, what's going on with the Secret Service? Because let me tell you something,
00:08:14.840Even with my own security, and I'm not the president of the United States, they've made
00:08:20.020clear to me so many times that the best security is the one that prevents the person from ever
00:08:26.120getting anywhere near you, that it is monitoring exactly what you're going to be doing, what the
00:08:32.460vulnerable points are, whether there are any threats, that kind of thing. So that things like
00:08:39.020watching the hotel, making anybody staying there put their bags through a mag in the week leading
00:08:47.320up to the big event. It's really not that hard. They do it in other countries all the time.
00:08:52.860Something like that, like preemptive security. Yes, the last line of defense protecting President
00:08:59.160Trump did work, you know, the mags outside of where he was sitting. Should we really
00:09:04.860have to wait until he's that close? What if there were more than one? What if this were like a band
00:09:11.740of five guys? Again, they missed. If they fired at him, they missed. He doesn't have a wound on him
00:09:20.860that we know about. Now, they took him down. I'm not taking that away from them. I'm just saying.
00:09:25.020A lot of questions about how it was, I guess, the second last
00:09:30.300realm of security around him. The very, very last would have been the Secret Service agents
00:09:35.660right next to the president. Thank God it didn't get that far. You know, personally, I think about
00:09:40.560what was inside that ballroom. Like Melania was to the president's right, the first lady sitting
00:09:47.200there. She doesn't often appear with him at these events, but she was at this one. And who was right0.76
00:09:53.300next to her. A very pregnant Caroline Levitt. I think she's like literally nine months pregnant.
00:10:01.260I think she's due in a week. A very pregnant Caroline Levitt sitting there. Who was in the1.00
00:10:05.500front row of the ballroom? Stephen Miller and his very pregnant wife, Katie Miller.
00:10:11.780She's got to be due within a month or so. You know, not far from them, Erica Kirk,
00:10:18.560who is not pregnant, but good Lord, lost her husband in an assassination that took place
00:10:25.760seven, eight months ago. Just Steve Scalise was there, who was shot in an act of political
00:10:35.120violence on Capitol Hill by a deranged gunman who was a Bernie Sanders fan. I don't know.
00:10:43.700There were a lot of especially vulnerable people there last night, even outside of the president, the secretary of war, the FBI director, the acting attorney general.
00:11:00.380The level of catastrophe this could have been is rattling.
00:12:22.380it feels closer to 1968 than 2028 at the moment.
00:12:27.960White House chief of staff, Susie Wiles, will reportedly hold a meeting with the people in charge of Trump's security now to discuss security protocol.
00:12:36.740They say that she's been a big backer of the Secret Service and a defender of them.
00:12:43.100And I think she's finally coming to see maybe she's been a little too defensive of them.
00:12:47.400It's not to take anything away from those who did their job on site.
00:12:50.680But once again, much like Butler, this seems to have been a problem in the planning.0.99
00:13:37.560Of course, the guys on site did their job, though we should talk about the AIM problem
00:13:43.380that we seem to have with the Secret Service.
00:13:45.920But like the planning on this, you don't have to have a law enforcement background to see it seems to have been woefully inadequate, inadequate.
00:13:56.080Look, watch here how long it takes the Secret Service to remove President Trump after shots ring out.
00:14:15.920cover him after 10 seconds. All right. So the shots had rung and the people are getting
00:14:25.980underneath their tables and President Trump is sitting there. It's he's sitting there. It took
00:14:31.220nine of those 10 seconds before an agent even came to stand in front of him. And the people
00:14:37.100are already under their tables. What the why? As you could see from your screen, if you're
00:14:43.440watching this on YouTube, Vice President Vance was removed from the stage well before Trump.
00:14:48.240Why? Unfortunately, there seemed to be a growing number of people like this would-be assassin who
00:14:54.160hold a deep-rooted hatred for members of the Trump administration and who would very much
00:15:00.380like something to be done to stop them from governing. And this guy, Allen, did not do
00:15:07.420anything to hide his disgust for Trump and his team. Here's his post on Blue Sky on April 15,
00:15:13.440calling Vice President Vance a piece of shit for not supporting funding for Ukraine.0.97
00:15:19.340Here he is on April 8th, the day the ceasefire with Iran was announced, writing, quote,1.00
00:15:23.180Trump is literally one of those villains that if you beat his ass hard enough, he'll join your team.0.99
00:15:28.360Don't really have any other insights to this.0.99
00:15:30.920It's not really actionable because no way Schumer just canes him into acting his age,
00:15:35.220but like it would probably literally work on him.
00:15:38.480He also wrote a manifesto about his assassination attempt.
00:15:43.440which CBS's Nora O'Donnell read in part to the president last night on 60 Minutes. Watch.
00:15:51.160The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read, Mr. President. He appears to reference
00:15:57.320a motive in it. He writes this, quote, administration officials, they are targets.
00:16:03.340And he also wrote this. I'm no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist,0.99
00:16:08.140and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes. What's your reaction?0.99
00:16:12.240Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would because you're horrible people,1.00
00:16:17.440horrible people. Yeah, he did write that. I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody.0.99
00:16:22.880Do you think he was referring to you? Excuse me.
00:16:27.680I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap from some sick person. I got associated with stuff1.00
00:16:35.840that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of
00:16:42.240The plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say Epstein or other things.
00:16:48.900But I said to myself, I'll do this interview and they'll probably, I read the manifesto,
00:16:54.360he's a sick person, but you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any
00:17:08.200But go ahead, let's finish the interview.1.00
00:17:09.720The other thing that he wrote in- You're disgraceful.
00:17:12.240I got to tell, I had no problem with her reading the would-be assassin's words to him. I don't think that was beyond the pale. Like, she's trying to get his reaction to what this guy said about the president. I don't think I would have done it. Just, I was thinking it through. Like, would I have read those words to him? I don't think so. But I have no problem with the fact that she did.
00:17:34.480I do, however, have a serious problem with her weird, oh, you think that was about you?1.00
00:18:29.440And the other thing is, if you're going to read it to him, if you're going to read him that somebody saying is a pedophile and he's a rapist and you just you're reading it to him because you're reading the words of his would be assassin to get, you know, his reaction.
00:18:43.920Then you say, forgive me, Mr. President, quoting here.
00:24:47.300And then there was a sort of a bit of chaos.
00:24:51.040We don't know if there was friendly fire that was resulting in the uniformed division
00:24:56.760officer going down and taking a bullet. Thankfully, he was okay. These people put their lives on the
00:25:03.220line. There's no better part of humanity than these agents and officers, so I am not faulting
00:25:11.080them. This is a serious leadership issue at the Secret Service. I have been warning about this
00:25:18.440for. Since Butler, I was very happy to report on the reforms of the Secret Service. I was expecting
00:25:27.340to report on the reforms of the Secret Service. Instead, we've seen failure after failure. And I'm
00:25:33.220told that I will break a little news here with you exclusively that Susie Wiles was pushing back.
00:25:41.700She was directly overseeing the Secret Service and was pushing back on DHS under Kristi Noem, providing some oversight to the reforms after several incidents that I reported on, you know, the Code Pink incident where they got too close to Trump in that restaurant nearby the White House.
00:26:00.520I reported on agents falling asleep on the job at the U.N. General Assembly, the fact that Melania rode up that escalator that was stalled.
00:26:10.880There was a celebration of Charlie Kirk's assassination by a Secret Service agent, most recently two sex scandals, one broken by James O'Keefe.
00:26:19.520O'Keefe, the one I broke was last weekend, where I asked the White House, do they still have
00:26:25.560full confidence in Sean Curran, did not get a usable response back on that. This has been
00:26:32.460time and time again, failure after failure. And from what I understand, Kristi Noem was trying
00:26:39.880to do something about it, wanted to put a political chief of staff, sorry, chief counsel in
00:26:45.440after the one that Sean Curran chose crashed and burned literally was in pretending to be an
00:26:53.260officer and got pushed out by the White House. There's just been so many incidents. I cannot
00:26:59.860even list them all here for you. But the DEI is a live and well in the Secret Service. And you
00:27:07.360layer on top of that, this sort of culture of corruption that I've been reporting about since
00:27:13.0602012 with the prostitution scandal. And it's just still needs serious reforms. And for some reason,
00:27:22.520Congress is not doing its job. Can you just give us a little background on Sean Curran?
00:27:27.940Is he in charge of Secret Service right now? That's the director of the Secret Service.
00:27:32.840You have Deputy Director Quinn, Matt Quinn. He has a cat background. He has counter assault.
00:27:40.420He's very, you know, he has all the background he needs.
00:27:44.240Sean Curran is honestly, they rushed him through.
00:28:03.340She was treating him as any old former president like Jimmy Carter.
00:28:06.460There was not enough assets at Butler. Some of them were being pushed over to Jill Biden's event. She had more poststanders than even Trump did that night because she had a similar 400 person event in a closed ballroom that night.
00:28:24.340All of this is just I expected way more reforms.
00:28:30.900And I'm telling you, the White House pushed back on those on some of the reforms that they wanted to put in.
00:28:36.960I have a statement I can read to you by Carolyn Levitt when I reported that Susie Wiles is pushing back on this.
00:28:44.440She tells me this morning, nobody cares more or has pushed harder or has asked more hard questions about President Trump's safety than Susie Wiles.
00:28:54.760The insinuation that Susie would object to anything that would help strengthen protection for her boss and friend is absolutely absurd.
00:29:03.220But you're reporting that it's not absurd.
00:29:05.380That Susie Wiles did push back on an attempt by Kristi Noem to add an additional person overseeing the security protocol.
00:29:14.920There's two attempts. One was to put a political chief counsel in charge of the Secret Service or install him there.0.98
00:29:23.700The other issue was a deputy chief of staff at DHS was at the Secret Service to provide recommendations for reforms.
00:29:31.500This is recently. And he was walked out of the building when Sean Curran complained to Susie Wiles, according to my sources.
00:29:39.940Wow. But this is relevant because what we're what we're told is that the reason that the White House Correspondents Dinner did not have a higher security profile is because there's typically a DHS employee who would make the recommendation.
00:29:53.780This one needs to be bumped up like this. Don't treat this like some random dinner.
00:29:57.660You need to treat this more like a state of the union. And our understanding is that that didn't happen, that that recommendation was not made because, I presume, it had never been made in the past. And I guess whoever the DHS person was, and I don't know if this is Mark Wayne Mullen or somebody beneath him, didn't see the need, notwithstanding the fact that this is not an ordinary president. This is somebody who they've already tried to kill three times.
00:30:20.360Absolutely. They were using a 2023 model, Biden model, on Donald Trump. It is the same issue that we had at Butler. Trump broke the mold when it comes to the threats against him. The national security should revise all of their former models.
00:30:41.960They have these models. That's the first step. When you when you get assigned to be in charge of the White House Correspondents Dinner for the Secret Service, you pull out the old model and then you revise it.
00:30:53.080if there's been any renovations to the space, the hotel, there haven't been. And right now,
00:31:00.640though, are you kidding me with all of these cabinet secretaries? And this was a disgrace
00:31:05.900to have all of our cabinet and dignitaries under the tables. It was a disgrace to the entire world.
00:31:14.120And there were warning signs that I've reported on consistently over the last year. Dan Bongino
00:31:20.880at the time when Sean Kern was up for this job, said Sean Kern is not a reformer. He's not a
00:31:28.960change agent. Suddenly, Dan Bongino went silent when he joined the administration about that.
00:31:34.260I did not stay silent. I was ready for the reforms. They did not come consistently in terms
00:31:42.120of getting rid of the DEI that the Secret Service
00:32:09.380And now they're trying to hire really quickly,
00:32:11.560but they have lowered the hiring standards you no longer have to have a college degree
00:32:15.640recently they lowered the drug standards it's completely different than it used to be 10 years
00:32:21.560ago uh it's time and time again you see it and the the people that they're hiring you had they
00:32:28.120missed a glock at donald trump's golf course in sterling virginia i reported on that they've had
00:32:35.040like i said multiple sex scandals there was a cat fight outside of with between two uniform
00:32:40.800officers outside of obama's residence i mean these are just signs of problems within the
00:32:47.980secret service and when you have an agent falling asleep at at the there's also been
00:32:56.320an fbi raid and this is when the secret service stopped talking to me last year they they used to
00:33:02.140get back to me regularly and they stopped talking to me when i reported on an fbi raid of a secret
00:33:09.400services agent's home and i think he was on presidential protective detail
00:33:14.760last december because he was involved in a tax scheme that involved possibly 30 other agents
00:33:23.300what is going on at the secret service this was his moonlighting career there is serious problems
00:33:30.400going on at Secret Service. And, you know, I was more than happy to report on the reforms. In fact,
00:33:35.400I kept telling them, if you were doing some hiring at, you know, for college athletes,
00:33:40.860if you're reaching out, whatever you're doing, let me know. I'm happy to report on positive
00:33:46.640elements. But they never engaged me. And I know why. There were some serious problems going on
00:33:55.300on that detail even a couple months before Donald Trump, before the Butler assassination attempt
00:34:02.160and the subsequent one at the golf course nearby his Mar-a-Lago. There were some problems going
00:34:09.000on in that detail. And I reported on those problems. And ever since they've been concerned
00:34:13.200about me. And I'm sorry to say there were formal complaints lodged against Sean Kern and his deputy
00:34:20.740And they were cleared. But Secret Service is notorious for playing favorites with agents. And this culture of corruption has to end. They retaliate against agents. And this DEI problem has never been because they have a hiring problem. They can't really effectively deal with the DEI issues that occurred under the Biden administration.
00:34:45.960And meanwhile, President Trump is sent out there like a sitting duck because they won't get real about what the problems are.
00:34:52.880Susan, I know you've got to run. Thank you for coming on and giving us your exclusive information.
00:34:57.520We appreciate it. Great reporting as always.
00:36:29.680Well, it means a lot because I'm intimately familiar.
00:36:32.440And the fact is that what we saw Saturday night was a, I would call it a catastrophic failure of the four C's, communication, coordination, control, and command.
00:36:51.400And that's the omniscience that's needed and necessary and required when you're protecting the biggest of all the big shots, President of the United States.
00:37:00.980what do you make of these reports that people were allowed to just come into the hotel room
00:37:06.120check in this the shooter uh he he's checked in friday the event was saturday no one ever
00:37:11.320magged his bags he just ran down the stairwell with his guns in his duffel the woman saw him
00:37:17.780take the gun out assemble it she said i he ran out and did a bunch of shooting i mean it's so easy
00:37:24.380pat making this catastrophic failure on so many levels i don't know should i go alphabetically
00:37:30.160chronologically or just random. But let's start with the Connecticut Avenue entrance to this hotel
00:37:38.280with 1,100 rooms, 2,500 guests coming in and folks coming in and out all week.
00:37:46.140At Brosnan Risk Consultants, my security company over the years, we've provided
00:37:50.660security for the Republican National Convention. We provided it for King of Saudi Arabia,
00:37:56.780of the prime minister so a lot of different folks so we know a good bit about the protocol process
00:38:01.760and procedures that are absolutely mandatory when it comes to uh attempting to to completely
00:38:09.820sale proof and fail proof uh in terms of not just uh the security measures which were
00:38:18.740a delinquent and we'll discuss that but the rudimentary stuff like the due diligence and
00:38:25.240the due diligence is critical. Uh, the fact that they did not vet and do a background search
00:38:31.660on all the guests in that hotel for the prior three to seven days, somewhere in there. Okay.
00:38:40.260Uh, the significant failure and a particularly glaring red flag with this individual Cole
00:38:47.520Allen is he hit both check boxes. He's solo and he traveled a great distance and he got in the
00:38:55.080night before. Yes. Those are clues. Stevie Wonder would have picked up on them. Let's be crystal
00:39:00.900clear. They're easy ones. They're grand balls. I mean, that is so true. I know this just from my
00:39:07.740own from my own security team. Like if I travel, if I'm going to be up close with people and they
00:39:14.340know who they are in advance, they will. They'll make sure it's not somebody who's like appears to
00:39:19.480have a grudge, who traveled a long distance, like all those red flags. That's for me. This is the
00:39:25.720president and the entire cabinet virtually. It's incredible that they allowed this guy to get
00:39:33.000within 100 yards of him, never mind 100 feet. Mind bending. It's mind bending. When you think
00:39:40.720of the concept of layered security, this is the textbook example of what was needed and necessary
00:39:48.320and was failed to be implemented, a 200 or 250-foot lobby in the distance from Connecticut Avenue west to the doors to the International Ballroom,
00:39:59.800which is subterranean, by the way. I've been there. To not have hosted as fixed hosts armed and uniformed and plainclothes armed officers throughout that lobby
00:40:15.460is the height of negligence. It's it's the height of reckless negligence to not have a fixed post
00:40:21.900at the stairway at ingress and egress points is supremely negligent. And to not have a fixed post
00:40:29.960at the base of the elevator is supremely negligent. These are fundamental.
00:40:35.460Like Pat, why? Why wouldn't they have said, OK, we got to think about people who are staying
00:40:40.220in the hotel and there's going to have to be a person at every stairwell. Like what? Maybe this
00:40:46.260is just 20, 20 hindsight. I don't know. You've done these things before. Is that 20, 20 hindsight
00:40:50.040or was that, is that an obvious one to have looked into? It's, it's really a very obvious one to look
00:40:56.180into and it's, and it's coordinated and implemented in conjunction with the CSO chief security officer
00:41:01.880of the hotel. They work hand in hand. That's how we operated. Our senior leadership would interface
00:41:07.740not just at the RNC with the CSOs of the specific hotel, but hotels in every direction,
00:41:15.700east, northwest and south for a few blocks from Madison Square Garden and different venues.
00:41:20.560That's called doing your homework. That's called intelligent and pragmatic due diligence.
00:41:25.520And it was not done here. And it's shameful. OK, how about how about the fact that this guy,
00:41:32.780we saw the video of him running through the mag. There was one mag still standing. They were in
00:41:36.680the process of dismantling the other mags. There's one that they were taking apart as this guy ran
00:41:42.860through the one mag. They seem to have gone into, well, the dinner's started. POTUS is inside the
00:41:49.220dinner. We're good. We're not going to let anybody else in, so we're going to take everything down
00:41:54.300without anticipating, Pat. But what if somebody isn't respectful of the 8.15 start time? What if
00:42:02.720somebody comes right now when we're all feeling super lax with two guns and a bunch of knives
00:42:08.800and tries to run through us hate to say it because i was in civil service as a detective
00:42:15.420what you're seeing in real time front and close the civil service mindset civil service mindset
00:42:23.620and that doesn't apply yeah this president not when we are now in an everything everywhere all
00:42:30.480at once threat environment for the past 22 months where you astutely pointed out, Megan, and no
00:42:35.540surprise, that it's four. That's right, four. Cole Austin Martin on February 22nd of 26th,
00:42:41.780he wanted to go in and kill the president. The president just happened to not be in Mar-a-Lago
00:42:46.000at the time, and they neutralized them at the North Gate of Mar-a-Lago. But to not have this
00:42:51.300at this particular time is unbelievable. It really is that these fundamental and rudimentary steps
00:42:59.360are not in place. And the civil service mindset, and that's why I said early on, if I had a front
00:43:04.680burner in front of the front burner, it would be throwing out the rule book as it relates to the
00:43:11.020Secret Service methodologies, policy. That was before Trump. That's another guy. That's Carter
00:43:17.700or somebody, somebody sleeping at the switch and unremarkable. Trump is, if nothing else,
00:43:23.640extremely remarkable and he's and he has developed an army of of wicked evil haters who are0.81
00:43:31.240committed to murdering him that book has to go out what has to come in i have some thoughts on it but
00:43:38.100i will say the first thing is it's got to be a consideration for bringing in special forces
00:43:43.520operators they are the best and the brightest and the fastest and they do not have a civil
00:43:48.280service mindset they have a battlefield mindset it's entirely different they adhere better and
00:43:56.600i'm saying as a former civil service detective they adhere better to ironclad protocols they're
00:44:02.280much better at the command structure reporting structure they would not ever be disassembling
00:44:08.360the magnetometer and they would not megan have had their faces buried in their phones
00:44:12.980which I saw on various clips. Not in this lifetime.
00:44:19.840I hate to ask this because I'm sure anybody could make this mistake, but we saw six rounds
00:44:28.180fired when that guy approached the golf course. He was lying in wait for Trump for 12 hours.
00:44:35.120And when Secret Service finally discovered him, they fired on him six times and missed
00:44:39.980every single time. Now here we see a collection of, I think it's both local law enforcement and
00:44:47.540Secret Service, but this guy, like, this is why we arm the Secret Service. This is why we arm
00:44:53.440cops who are sent there to protect the president in case a shooter comes by with a gun. This guy
00:44:59.480had two of them, ran right past the good guys with the guns who did appear to open fire and
00:45:05.280once again missed missed and missed and missed and may have actually hit a fellow secret service
00:45:10.320officer we're not sure who who hit him and we don't know exactly how many rounds if any the
00:45:15.780actual assailant fired we just have this one woman's eyewitness testimony saying he shot a
00:45:20.800bunch of times so we don't know but like does it does it surprise you at all that there's so much
00:45:26.360missing going on i'd like to think that they're all like that sharpshooter who took out uh the
00:45:31.480the killer and butler. But these guys were a lot closer. They were a lot closer than that
00:45:37.040sharpshooter and with a lot worse aim. Well, again, it comes back to civil service mentality.
00:45:43.540You may be mandated to train every six months, perhaps every 12 months. I'm not certain,
00:45:49.040but probably not much more than that. Completely unlike the military. It's a completely different
00:45:54.400set of protocols for uh for practicing and for training with your weapons uh and i i do concur
00:46:01.540a lot of rounds do miss we don't have the facts yet that may very likely have been friendly fire
00:46:07.940saturday night but certainly at the golf course there was a number of rounds of fired at wesley
00:46:13.820roth uh and he was uh unscathed but again it comes to gross negligence at every level even then
00:46:23.060uh september 15th to 24th the international one dog megan one foot patrolman and one dog would
00:46:31.480have detected him in minutes i walked exactly that path where he was up against the gate in
00:46:38.040the bushes a dog would have picked him up lightning fast one drone he was lying in
00:46:44.000He was lying away for 12 hours, that guy.
00:47:23.780But like a meeting, what are you talking about?
00:47:26.180Like, I don't know if everybody should be fired.
00:47:28.480What if they call you tomorrow and say, Pat, please come in and take over, take over all of the president's security, all of it, Secret Service everywhere.
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00:52:17.280joining me now tom bevan co-founder and president of real clear politics
00:52:26.320carl cannon rcp's washington bureau chief and andrew walworth the chief content officer for
00:52:32.420real clear politics together they host real clear politics on the megan kelly channel
00:52:36.520sirius xm 111 right before this show and you can listen to their show via podcast later in the day
00:52:42.580as well guys welcome back okay so i two of you guys were there and i've got to start with this
00:52:49.540as i completely understand that there was a real threat there was a lunatic with two armed guns
00:52:55.680uh loaded guns and knives out there but the dramatics of some of these reporters
00:53:03.300who are talking like they just got back from nam it's like okay like deep breaths you're fine
00:53:12.460You were never actually in danger. And they like just the over the top acting is a bit much.
00:53:21.440I'll give you just one example. Brian Stelter was out there today comparing like the trauma that he went through to that experience by actual shooting victims in mass shootings like one we saw last weekend where a nutcase killed his seven children.
00:53:37.640Look at this. Today, I've been having some memories come back from last night, but I've
00:53:42.420also been thinking about Shreveport, about the mass murder a week ago. I was thinking about the
00:53:46.600mall shooting in Louisiana where that teen girl died a few days ago. The scourge of gun violence
00:53:51.680is all too common in America. And I've been thinking about how people process it. My sources,
00:53:56.380my contacts, my friends who were in the room with me, they're processing the traumatic stress. And
00:54:00.960I know for me personally, the memories have been flooding back today. I remembered talking to
00:54:05.060House Speaker, Mike Johnson, two minutes before all this went down. And then I remembered as we
00:54:09.280were crouching on the ground, hearing people shouting, get down and wondering if there was
00:54:13.780some assailant who was loose in the ballroom. So those memories are coming back. And I'm also
00:54:18.160thinking about how people who work at places like CNN, people like this, we have access to
00:54:22.780counselors, we have access to employee assistance programs. We typically have health insurance,
00:54:26.420but what about folks in Shreveport, right? What about folks who experience this in their
00:54:31.100communities in their hometowns in their schools in their churches okay first of all brian stelter
00:54:38.640tweeted out oh it was just a bunch of plates that fell it was so like which is it you were so
00:54:45.620terrified you need counseling or you actually weren't one of the scared ones because you thought
00:54:50.120it was plates and second of all like to even raise an actual mass shooting in comparison to
01:01:20.920okay i first of all you don't wear mini pigtails to the white house correspondence dinner second
01:01:34.600of all she shows herself crouching and all the guys she shows the guys all the guys are standing
01:01:39.260up all around her she's like the only one left crouching and third of all note to self olivia
01:01:44.560to be a good reporter, you turn the camera outward to film what's happening in the ballroom,
01:01:53.300not yourself. Is there a better example of the vainglorious upcoming class of reporters in
01:02:00.840America today? Keep it on me. I'm telling you there might be a shooter here, but I want you
01:02:07.820to see me and how scared I am. Carl, I object. Well, you know what, Megan, you're, you're onto
01:02:14.940something. So in my day, you had the way you got to cover the white house. You started at a small
01:02:22.080newspaper. You covered police and courts and fires. Then you went to a bigger newspaper. You
01:02:27.520covered police and courts, you know, then you went to city hall. You covered, you know, you covered
01:02:33.160and you go to courts, you covered trials, murder trials. If you're really good, you get to go to
01:02:37.060the state capitol and then finally you get to go to washington well you know those newspapers the
01:02:41.900pipeline doesn't exist anymore and you get people covering the white house who've never never never
01:02:46.040covered a never covered a murder case never covered a trial never never covered a fire and
01:02:50.860sometimes it shows um you know brian brian stelter stelter i i think tom's as we speak in sort of a
01:02:57.380exchange with his his fans on x but you know you don't compare yourself to victims of a shooting
01:03:05.960He wasn't at those places. He wasn't in Shreveport. Having said that, there were people in that room,
01:03:13.260Megan, who had every right to be very alarmed and very scared and very upset. You know,
01:03:19.320Tom mentioned a couple of them. You mentioned Erica Kirk is one. The White House press secretary
01:03:25.560is nine months pregnant. And I thought, as you did, Megan, immediately of Bobby Kennedy Jr.0.74
01:03:30.880I had spoken with him, had a reception at some length just before, half an hour earlier, and he asked me where I was from, and I told him, and I told him a story about one of the reasons I went into, became a reporter, was when I was on my paper route in Sacramento the night his father was killed, his father and namesake, as you point out, in a crowded, chaotic ballroom.
01:03:55.200and i had to hand out the newspapers that morning to you know 96 in the morning people were up there
01:04:01.900was no cable television i had to hand paper and the paper didn't even have the shooting it had
01:04:06.340bobby kennedy won the california primary and i had to tell people my mom told me she said i said mom
01:04:12.460nobody will be awake she said they'll be awake and i said where's dad he's at work he was a
01:04:17.500newspaper man in sacramento so i had this three by five card and i read these and the route usually
01:04:22.620took me about 45 minutes it took me two and a half hours this day and usually the woman in the house
01:04:27.900would come out and people would hug you and they were sad and so bobby kennedy at every right you
01:04:33.040know you're right he you know he the somebody came the security got him pulled him up literally
01:04:38.340climbed on a table he's very you know he's big and athletic and then his wife was right behind him
01:04:42.020he had a if he's traumatized he has a right to be i don't know that he was how about steve
01:04:47.500Scalise. Yeah. They had at least two people there, Steve Scalise and President Trump,
01:04:52.140who had been shot before in acts of political violence. I mean, it's like, I haven't seen
01:04:58.540Steve's reaction, but I saw, you know, President Trump was cool as a cucumber. Here's a little of
01:05:02.380the president. I thought this is actually a really good point. He said this, he held a presser right
01:05:07.360after. He went back to the White House, held a presser. The press corps is sitting there in
01:05:11.420their ball gowns and tuxes. President Trump's still in his tux. And he made a good point here
01:05:16.340and sought 17. I've studied assassinations and I must tell you the most impactful people,
01:05:25.180the people that do the most, you take a look at the people, Abraham Lincoln. I mean, you go through
01:05:30.540the people that have gone through this where they got them, but the people that do the most,
01:05:37.020the people that make the biggest impact, they're the ones that they go after.
01:05:41.500they don't go after the ones that don't do much because they like it that way and when you look
01:05:47.480at the people that have either whether it was an attempt or a successful attempt they're very
01:05:54.720impactful people just take a look at the names here the big names and I hate to say I'm honored
01:06:01.940by that but I've done a lot we've done a lot we have we've taken this country and we were a laughing
01:06:08.720stock for years, and now we're the hottest country anywhere in the world. We've changed
01:06:12.740this country, and there are a lot of people that are not happy about that.
01:06:18.280Andrew, he talked about how his job is a dangerous job, and he knows that in today's day and age,
01:06:24.980and he's willing to take the risk. Yeah, it's the most dangerous job in America,
01:06:28.100I think he's called it on more than one occasion. And he's right, and that press conference he gave
01:06:34.240immediately after um i thought he struck the right tone i thought that he was complimentary
01:06:40.460to the press um he said that he wanted to hold the dinner again within 30 days um said that he
01:06:48.280wanted to keep the dinner going that night um so you you got a sense of his resilience in these
01:06:54.420situations which you know happen all too often now but this is but his third time around in the last
01:07:00.740two years where he's been the subject of an attack so he you know i hate to say he's kind
01:07:06.080of used to it and i hope we aren't used to it but uh his his sort of his affable give and take with
01:07:15.480the press after that i thought was was uh was to his credit yeah he was magnanimous he was he
01:07:23.220sounded like the Trump at the Republican National Convention, which was days after the Butler
01:07:31.220assassination attempt, where he sounded much more magnanimous than we're used to President Trump
01:07:35.780sounding. You know, we're used to the fighter and the one who's like, you're an idiot, you're a loser,1.00
01:07:41.340you're low IQ, whatever. But Megan, just a historical correction here. These assassins1.00
01:07:49.540don't only go after impactful presidents they tried to kill jerry ford twice in like a month
01:07:57.180there were two assassinations he never heard anybody or did anything he he was a caretaker
01:08:02.120buzzkill carl yeah i'll give you another one we're thinking i think trump's thinking lincoln
01:08:06.780he's thinking kennedy you know he's thinking some of the reagan the attempt james a garfield
01:08:11.380the greats i'll give you i'll give you kennedy i'll raise your detail
01:08:16.400okay um here is an example of what i'm talking about though listen to him he's like he's he
01:08:23.940gives a shout out here to weijia jang who's the president of the white house correspondence to
01:08:28.180dinner who is the person sitting to trump's left on the dais uh who organized this whole thing
01:08:33.940and now they're back at the white house for this uh you know impromptu press conference here in
01:08:39.460out 15. Madam Chairman, I just want to say you did a fantastic job. What a beautiful evening,
01:08:46.360and we're going to reschedule. After that, it's very tough for her to ask a killer question,
01:08:54.700right? But you have done a fantastic job. Please. Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate it.
01:08:59.560As you mentioned, it all happened so quickly, and I wonder, especially because,
01:09:06.640Unfortunately, you have experience with these sorts of threats.
01:09:10.940In that moment, when you realized there was a threat and service agents were telling us to get down,
01:09:17.920can you describe what was going through your mind, how you were feeling in that moment?
01:09:23.780That's a very good question, actually.
01:09:25.420It's always shocking when something like this happens.
01:09:28.820It's happened to me a little bit, and that never changes.
01:09:33.120so just a different tone entirely there right from a president who's normally much more
01:09:41.240combative with the press but it was openly calling for actually the temperature to be
01:09:47.200turned down i'll play one more guys not just between him and the press but with americans
01:09:52.220here he is in sat 12 so as you know this is not the first time in the past couple of years that
01:09:57.420our republic has been attacked by a would-be assassin who sought to kill in Butler, Pennsylvania
01:10:05.020less than two years ago. You all know that story. And in Palm Beach, Florida, a few months after
01:10:09.860that, we came close. We really had, again, we had some great work done by law enforcement.
01:10:18.400But in light of this evening's events, I ask that all Americans recommit with their hearts in
01:10:24.220resolving our difference peacefully we have to we have to resolve our differences
01:10:29.400i mean i don't think this moment of detente with the press will last tom bevan and unfortunately
01:10:39.100i don't think and i don't think it'll last on either part i don't think the the press will be
01:10:43.540any nicer to trump and i don't think trump will be any nicer to the press and i think we will
01:10:46.880devolve back into the very low level name calling situation within hours. But I also unfortunately
01:10:55.060don't believe the president is going to convince anybody to tone it down, to resolve our differences
01:11:03.200peacefully, as he said. There's just too many nut jobs out there. And the messaging around Trump has
01:11:08.980been too ubiquitously catastrophic in its levels of hysteria. Like, I don't even know if you can
01:11:16.880turn it down. You know, what do you think? I agree. And look, Nora O'Donnell already ruined
01:11:21.340it. And I heard your righteous rant on that earlier in the show. I mean, you know, that1.00
01:11:26.680so it's already it's already spoiled. And, you know, the headlines were, oh, Trump's
01:11:31.600detente with the press, you know, is over or something. I mean, she's the one who basically
01:11:35.600ruined it by reading that quote and then pretending that she was, oh, you think that's0.96
01:11:41.120about you? It was really, really disingenuous. But I think you're right. Look, the coverage of
01:11:50.180Trump, and I know, look, Trump has played into this too. He's used harsh language about his
01:11:54.180political opponents, and the left always points that out. But when you look at the shooters,
01:12:00.320if we call it a manifesto the stuff that he said about trumping a pedophile and a rapist and a0.97
01:12:06.660traitor and a fascist and all that that is what you get on msnbc every single day for 10 hours a0.92
01:12:14.000day and have gotten for 10 years and so i yes he's not a he's not a mentally ill person the shooter0.98
01:12:23.480He's not some deranged wacko. He's basically been radicalized by the left and the media into thinking that they create this permission structure, which allows some of these people who, you know, to malfunction and decide that, you know what, I'm going to take care of this.
01:12:41.200And I am doing so, my doing so is justified and in some ways righteous because I believe this person is so evil.
01:12:52.700And then they all come out like they did, you know, Hakeem Jeffries, who just last week said maximum warfare every day, all day, is now like it's a time for unity.
01:13:03.460And they try and wave it away like, you know, they haven't been complicit in the demonization of this president in particular for a dozen years.
01:13:17.080And the irony, of course, because Trump, while very not normal in his rhetoric, is actually quite moderate in most of his policies.
01:13:26.820Now, he's been hardline on immigration up until recently anyway.
01:13:31.180That's what the American people put him in office to do.
01:13:33.920The polls showed that the public was majority behind him on the deportations and closing of the border.
01:13:38.820But on most of everything else, Trump has been very moderate, even like the trade practices and the tariffs and all that.
01:13:44.500That's not right wing. That's not right wing at all.
01:13:47.020He wants to take over Spirit Airlines. That's like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren should be, you know, breaking out the pom-poms.
01:13:54.300Right. Like Trump is not radical in his policies at all.
01:14:12.160It's no accident this guy was well-educated, had an advanced degree.
01:14:16.380He says things like, I don't expect forgiveness, but if I could have seen any other way to get this close, I would have taken it onto why I did any of this.
01:14:57.580and who he won't. For some reason, he exempted Kash Patel. He appears to like him, but everybody0.65
01:15:03.000else was fair game, especially administration officials. He didn't want to have to kill hotel
01:15:08.320security, Capitol Police, National Guard, hotel employees or guests, but said he would if he had
01:15:13.720to in order to get to the targets he wanted. And then he goes on to say, rebuttals to objections.
01:15:23.160One, as a Christian, you should turn the other cheek. No, my rebuttal is turning the other cheek
01:15:27.440is for when you yourself are oppressed. I'm not the person raped in a detention camp.
01:15:32.660I'm not the fisherman executed without trial. He's talking about those Venezuela drug boats,
01:15:37.240I think. I'm not a school kid blown up or a child starved or a teenage girl abused
01:15:42.760by the many criminals in this administration. I don't know what that is. I'm not sure what
01:15:46.740that's a reference to. Objection two, this is not a convenient time for you to do this.
01:15:52.160He's just making this shit up because I don't think anybody would have said,0.98
01:15:54.700this is not a convenient time for the murder. Find a more convenient time. But in any event,0.99
01:16:00.000his rebuttal to his fake objection is, take a couple minutes and realize the world isn't about
01:16:05.600them. Do you think that when I see someone raped or murdered or abused, I should walk on by because
01:16:11.140it would be inconvenient for people who aren't the victim? Objection three, you didn't get them all.
01:16:15.720Rebuttal, got to start somewhere. Objection four, as a half black, half white person,0.98
01:16:19.980you shouldn't be the one doing this. Rebuttal, I don't see anyone else picking up the slack.1.00
01:16:24.120Objection five. Yield unto Caesar. What is Caesar's? Rebuttal. The U.S. is ruled by the law, not by any one or several people. Insofar as our representatives and judges do not follow the law, no one is required to yield them anything so lawfully ordered. And he goes on from there.
01:16:42.940And then, by the way, he has a whole long page on how incompetent the Secret Service is.
01:21:10.500And so while I wouldn't say, you know, you can't blame this assassination attempt on a Joy Reid type who says the most incendiary things, Carl, you have to factor in that there's not only that ubiquitous message, but there is ubiquitous leftist celebration of political violence.
01:21:37.580I'm just going to give you an example.
01:21:38.840Here's Corinne Baum, another teacher. This would-be assassin was a teacher. The Lucy Martinez, who did the shooting in the neck, infamous video outside at the No Kings rally after Charlie was killed over and over to a truck going by with an American flag that praised Charlie.0.98
01:33:19.960Because, like, why don't we have TSA before you get into your car?
01:33:23.380Everyone has to be inspected before they, at Avis, at Hertz, and then also at their homes,
01:33:28.520before they get into their cars and dare drive across the country, Tom.
01:33:32.840I mean, look, Margaret Brennan is, she has distinguished herself, not in a good way, many, many times over the last year or so with her line of questioning, her performance in the debate, all of that.
01:33:51.040um and this is almost inexplicable you've got how many minutes 10 minutes with the acting attorney
01:33:58.100general of the united states to talk about a significant major news event that just happened
01:34:04.820the night before and this is what you choose i mean it just it boggles the mind and it does it
01:34:10.980does make you question you know what these reporters are are thinking um and and how skewed
01:34:18.160their viewpoints are that this is the kinds of questions that they would they would eat up that0.88
01:34:22.780valuable time with well there's a reason for she was more interested in virtue signaling to her1.00
01:34:29.260audience than she was in actually doing journalism and you need look no further than her stupid little1.00
01:34:36.760arm tag at the event for verification she showed up at the dinner wearing a hideous dress hideous1.00
01:34:46.740gentlemen i'm sorry but it couldn't have been uglier or less flattering it's so bad she's got1.00
01:34:52.700like the madonna pointy breast thing happening in the front of it with the with the points above1.00
01:34:57.320that too all pointy pointy sharp pointy nothing soft about her and that's she needs something0.75
01:35:02.640soft given like the face the makeup it's harsh the hair like something feminine and then these0.97
01:35:09.020all the way up to the shoulder um gloves red as well with a little armband it looks like a purchase
01:35:14.460Price stuck on there. And it reads same as Jake Tapper's little pocket square. Congress shall
01:35:21.380make no law abridging the freedom of the press or of speech because she really needed a virtue
01:35:27.800signal. She was there, but she hates Trump. I've got to say I was saying this to my team beforehand.0.93
01:35:33.420Don Lemon did this weird thing where he was like, I'm not going. You know, he's he's a fascist or0.85
01:35:37.700whatever he called him. He's like, I'm not going. I got to tell you, I respect that. I actually if0.89
01:35:42.020you believe that, as I'm sure Marco Brennan does too, then do what Don Lemon did. Don't go. He's
01:35:47.060right about that. Of course, he also thinks the whole thing was a hoax, that it was staged. That's
01:35:51.400what he's asking everybody. So it can only go so far in painting him as the reasonable one, but
01:35:57.900that's why she asked that question. She's got to wear her armband and Carl, she's got to tell
01:36:02.620everybody there that everybody watching her show, that she knows this is really at its heart about
01:36:07.120gun violence. Well, that's, that's right. That's what this is. That phrase gun violence came up
01:36:12.300and I, I, I, I get it. I know what it means. And I, I remember, you know, Jim Brady was the press
01:36:18.660secretary. I met him once. He was a lovely man. He was Reagan's press secretary. He was shot in
01:36:22.800the head and grievously wounded, was never the same and eventually died at that same hotel.
01:36:27.760And his widow started a campaign against handguns. And because a guy like she wondered quite
01:36:34.180properly, Sarah Brady, why a guy like John Hinckley could buy a handgun. It's a debate worth
01:36:39.140having. It was an issue that I covered, and I thought her heart was in the right place.
01:36:44.060But when Democrats today use the phrase gun violence, they almost mean something else.
01:36:48.760The way they say it, it's like the gun did the violence on its own. And I don't think this is a
01:36:56.000gun control story. Some crimes are, Megan. This one isn't. This guy, he never had a record. He
01:37:01.700bought guns legally as you pointed out in your in minimal way he could have driven across country
01:37:06.380just as easily as taking a train this is not this is not really a story about gun control if you're
01:37:11.420being if you're being honest if you're being if you look at the issue fairly um but you know we
01:37:17.380look but we have you want to be careful not to have double standards and you know tom and i and
01:37:21.860andy we're what we always talk about that on the show and i think sometimes we're guilty of it i
01:37:26.260mean we were just talking about people dying you know rooting for a person to death well tom
01:37:31.500I mean, just didn't Donald Trump say how he was glad Robert Mueller was dead?
01:37:36.880I mean, this doesn't only come from the left and this kind of rhetoric.
01:37:40.020And so, you know, I wanted to point that out as well.
01:37:44.560But I would say I think the vast majority of Republicans and Trump supporters, I mean, maybe not the most hardcore, but the vast majority condemned that.
01:37:54.040You know, like when President Trump does that, he gets ripped by his own side.
01:46:07.900I got like, I don't even know where to begin. They had fake reaction shots from administration
01:46:13.660officials. Um, nothing funny, nothing remotely clever. That didn't sound anything like RFKJ.
01:46:24.640He doesn't talk like that. He doesn't actually talk like that at all. For some reason you gave
01:46:29.680him a Brooklyn accent, which he doesn't have. And the laugh track meant to boost his sagging
01:46:36.320audiences, I'm sure, like smattering of applause. Even leftists don't find that funny. That was so
01:46:42.100not funny. Jimmy Kimmel is not funny. And here he was least funny of all. What he said about
01:46:51.060Melania Trump now is making major news. You would think he would have learned after making light of
01:46:59.240the Charlie Kirk assassination, suggesting that the guy who did it, Tyler Robinson, who's been
01:47:05.080accused of doing it is MAGA. Remember that led to his show getting pulled off the air for five days
01:47:11.160and then they turned him into Rosa Parks on the left. But listen to the terrible quote joke he
01:47:17.200made about Melania Trump during the same routine. And of course, our first lady Melania is here.
01:47:23.540Look at more. So beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow.0.63
01:47:30.440Who would make a joke like that knowing that Trump had almost been killed?
01:47:35.080relatively recently, this is obviously before Saturday night, but I mean,
01:47:38.940it is not an exaggeration to say that Trump was almost killed in July of 2024. That's recent.
01:47:46.900And for this guy to get up there and say she's got the glow of an expectant widow,
01:47:53.100like how insensitive can you be? Honestly, like Trump, he's got children. He's got grandchildren.
01:48:00.200He does have a wife. He has millions of people who love him. And the glow of an expectant widow. How sick are you? That, I mean, truly the left and the desensitivity that they're trying to create, you know, in people to the thought of political violence is truly pernicious.
01:48:22.260It's a force for evil in this country.
01:48:25.940And he doubles and triples and quadruples down on it every other week.0.84
01:48:31.560Now, today, Melania Trump actually responded, which she never does.
01:48:36.340As you know, Melania, she does not seek the spotlight.
01:48:39.960Did you see her by chance the other night when Trump came out and spoke in the White
01:48:43.180House press briefing room after the shooter was apprehended, attempted shooter?
01:48:47.620somebody asked a question about Melania and how she reacted of course she hasn't been with Trump
01:48:54.120or by his side you know she wasn't right next to him on the stage in Butler or when Ruth tried to
01:49:00.560open fire on him on his golf course and so on so poor Melania you know this is I hate to say it so
01:49:06.040cavalierly but her her first assassination attempt forgive me so she puts out the following and by
01:49:12.080the way so Trump said do you want to say something at the end of that presser and she no she does not
01:49:16.220like the spotlight. It's very rare when you hear Melania speak out. So she has today. She posted
01:49:22.900online, Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric is intended to divide our country. His monologue
01:49:29.500about my family isn't comedy. His words are corrosive and deepen the political sickness
01:49:34.640within America. People like Kimmel should not have the opportunity to enter our homes each evening
01:49:39.780to spread hate. Wow, how about that? A coward, Kimmel hides behind ABC because he knows the
01:49:46.200network will keep running cover to protect him. Enough is enough. It is time for ABC to take a0.97
01:49:53.120stand. How many times will ABC's leadership enable Kimmel's atrocious behavior at the expense of our
01:50:00.200community. Wow. How about that, guys? That is extraordinary. That's the closest I've heard
01:50:08.060to her Melania getting explicitly political and actually appears to be calling for him to be
01:50:15.760fired, obviously. Enough is enough. It's time for ABC to take a stand. How many times will they
01:50:20.700allow him and his atrocious behavior to go on? Well, no sooner did she post that than I'd say
01:50:28.300two or three hours later, we get this from her husband, who is the president of the United
01:50:33.800States. Wow, Jimmy Kimmel, who is in no way funny, as attested to by his terrible TV ratings,
01:50:40.420made a statement on his show that is really shocking. He showed a fake video of the First
01:50:44.320Lady Melania and our son Barron like they were actually sitting in his studio listening to him
01:50:48.180speak, which they weren't and never would be. He then stated, our First Lady Melania is here.
01:50:53.160Look at Melania, so beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow.0.84
01:50:58.300A day later, a lunatic tried entering the ballroom0.94
01:51:01.340of the White House Correspondents' Dinner,0.55
01:51:03.500loaded up with a shotgun handgun and many knives.
01:51:07.000He was there for a very obvious and sinister reason.
01:51:11.200I appreciate that so many people are incensed
01:51:13.200by Kimmel's despicable call to violence
01:51:18.100but this is something far beyond the pale.
01:51:20.900Jimmy Kimmel should be immediately fired by Disney and ABC.
01:51:24.540Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Trump.
01:51:28.300And it's pretty explosive. I can only imagine the oh shit moment that any normal person would have0.99
01:51:37.780after saying she has the glow of an expectant widow. And within 48 hours, someone tries to0.99
01:51:44.720kill her husband. Like a normal person would have a complete meltdown at that series of events.
01:51:52.520It was bad enough. Poor Caroline Leavitt in a in a pre-interview before the event got kicked off was talking about the president's expected speech, which always historically includes it's all about barbs against the media.0.97
01:52:05.940That's the fun thing of having him there. You make fun of him and do corrosive coverage of him all year long.
01:52:11.620And with your typical president, they never say anything about you. And this is their big night to rip on you, the press by name and network and so on.
01:52:18.580And President Trump does it differently.
01:53:53.820Honestly, and I'll say one other thing.
01:53:55.640I can even understand in the wake of an assassination, easy for me to say, assassination attempt to like a comedian like Jay Leno, who's universally beloved and is not known as a partisan hack who actually really does hate the president who just got shot, making a joke like that was in good faith.
01:54:13.960You could you could find a way like that's not in bad taste to help the nation heal.
01:54:19.660That's actually always been one of the great roles of our great comedians to help us heal through humor.