00:04:44.120Now, there's been no movement recently on the bill in Congress, no movement until recently.
00:04:50.000And now it's back in the news because Congresswoman Salazar announced late last month that she and other supporters were going on a nationwide dignity tour to rally support for its passage.
00:05:02.020Now, that's got many America First supporters outraged who say it flies in the face of President Trump's campaign promise to not only not provide amnesty, but to conduct mass deportations of illegals.
00:05:17.600The days of doing this shit with the heartstrings are supposed to be over.
00:05:22.440One of those conservatives is our first guest, Michael Knowles.
00:05:25.880He's host of The Michael Knowles Show.
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00:06:35.800and use the promo code Megan for $20 off your first order. Michael, welcome back. Great to see
00:06:42.620you. She's not trying to hide it. Even though she's a Republican, she's going to go on a nationwide
00:06:47.920tour trying to sell it. I mean, I got to say, I think America Firsters have had about enough.
00:06:56.040First, they were told no one's interested in Epstein and that we wouldn't get it. We were
00:07:00.720going to be seeing any files. Then they passed a legislation with a huge hole in it that you
00:07:03.980could drive a truck through. OK, fine. Then they were told that the promise not to start a Middle
00:07:08.820East war didn't apply to Iran, which the last time I checked is in the Middle East. And now
00:07:13.760we have a Republican co-sponsoring and going on a nationwide tour to push an amnesty bill,
00:07:20.240which she says is not amnesty. She's very, very angry at that word. But you tell me what it is
00:07:25.300when you allow millions of illegals to stay here forever with impunity. Well, Megan, I think your
00:07:31.980summary of the bill was totally right with one slight correction. This woman, Maria Salazar,
00:07:37.940a nominal Republican, is now calling this the Dignity Act. But the actual name of the bill
00:07:43.460is the dignidad act they couldn't even put the bill in english they put the bill in spanish and
00:07:49.800so i have my own alternative legislation that i am proposing uh the the legislation is the
00:07:55.540all new denizens actually leave on mass bill or the on delay bill so i hope that the congress
00:08:03.480takes up the the on delay act of 2026 because the dignidad act is completely unacceptable and by the
00:08:10.680way. This woman, Salazar, is now saying that this is not an amnesty bill in any way. She's attacking
00:08:16.660even some of her colleagues in Congress, like Brandon Gill, who has led the fight against this
00:08:21.740in Congress. She's saying that he's lying about the legislation. The bill would literally give
00:08:30.440not only amnesty, but a pathway to citizenship for untold numbers of so-called dreamers. The
00:08:36.500dreamers, a term coined under the Obama administration, referring to illegal aliens
00:08:41.800who were brought to this country at a younger age. The dreamers at this point are not doe-eyed
00:08:46.040six-year-olds. They're like 50 years old at this point, okay? And so that notion is totally
00:08:50.640ridiculous. And then this woman on camera actually said, when she was trying to sell this to the
00:08:56.080pro-amnesty, pro-pathway to citizenship people, she said, look, don't worry. Future legislators
00:09:01.520are going to come along and give these people a pathway to citizenship. What we need to do right
00:09:05.840now is give them peace. In other words, we need to buy time right now. We need to stop them from
00:09:10.440being deported. So this is the first step to a pathway to citizenship. Now she's coming out
00:09:15.160saying it won't give a pathway to citizenship. She's lying to the public. Donald Trump won his
00:09:20.720election for a lot of reasons. One of the top reasons that he won not only the election,
00:09:25.400but the popular vote is on mass deportations. Mass deportations are a mainstream popular
00:09:32.080political issue so what are these jokers these republicans in congress say they come around and
00:09:37.120they say i know what we'll do after winning the first popular election in 20 years let's give
00:09:41.780illegals mass amnesty it it it makes you just put your head in your hands and you think leave it to
00:09:48.300these people to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory yeah what what who do they think wants
00:09:54.880this in the republican party we always we went back and looked at the polls in 2024 okay they
00:10:01.580showed 62 percent of registered voters favored a national program to deport all illegals. That
00:10:07.460was CBS News. Axios, 51 percent of Americans, including 42 percent of Democrats, would support
00:10:13.180mass deportations of illegals. Even as of last April 2025, CNN was reporting 56 percent of
00:10:19.920Americans were in favor of mass deportations for everyone here illegally. Then I asked my team to
00:10:25.360go back and check it after the nonsense in Minneapolis with Renee Good and Alex Preddy.
00:10:30.500And Harry Anton did a shot suggesting that the numbers had gone down. But then we checked February 26th via Reuters. And it said as of February 26th, 60 percent of Americans, including a fifth of Republicans and nine in 10 Democrats, think immigration agents have gone too far.
00:10:48.360But some 61 percent of respondents, including 92 percent of Republicans and 35 percent of Democrats, said they support deporting unauthorized immigrants, illegals and similar information reported in Politico via McLaughlin on April 1st.
00:11:03.120So there still is support, majority support for deporting all of these illegals.
00:11:08.660I don't get how you find 20 Republicans who want to forge ahead with this kind of agenda, which the president is not going to sign.
00:11:18.360He's not he's not dumb. So what is this just to create a talking point for the Democrats right
00:11:25.040before the midterms? Yeah, I think it comes from a couple of places. One, some of these Republicans
00:11:30.140are just rhinos. I mean, they're fake Republicans. In fairness to them, some of them come from swing
00:11:35.400districts. So I guess they're trying to appeal to Democrats. But the other constituency in the
00:11:40.000Republican Party that does want this is a lot of the donor class. That's what this is about.
00:11:45.360Basically, no Republican voters want this.
00:11:47.900They actually want the opposite of this.
00:11:49.360But some Republican donors want it because they benefit from the slave labor that we
00:18:00.140What do they need to demoralize them further right before the midterms, other than a big
00:18:06.240amnesty bill co-sponsored by Republicans?
00:18:09.960I mean, honestly, Michael, like if you if you were a Democrat sitting at home thinking, how can I further demoralize the Trump constituencies?
00:18:20.480How what what could I do to make sure they don't show up in November that they feel as down as possible on the Republican Party?
00:18:28.600I don't need them to vote Democrat. I know they're not going to vote for us, but I sure would like to get them to stay home as a middle finger to their own party in November.
00:18:38.660The secret meetings of Democrats would all say this is brilliant and we'll get this idiot from Florida to co-sponsor it.
00:18:46.160Of course. I mean, to your point, I think the Iran strikes are a major hot potato.
00:18:50.960And so the key to that is going to be it's got to wrap up quickly.
00:18:55.620You know, President Trump said at the beginning of it he thought it would take about four to six weeks.
00:19:00.080And to his credit, the guy actually had a pretty good calculation on this because the ceasefire, such as it is, we'll see if it holds, did kick in about halfway through the fifth week.
00:19:08.860So that would be great if we can move off it.
00:19:11.480Yes, some polls show 90 percent support among a certain wing of the Republican Party, even 100 percent support among parts of the Republican Party.
00:19:18.900I do think that support is kind of soft.
00:19:21.680There are a lot of people who don't want around to have a nuclear weapon.
00:19:24.860Plenty of people hate the mullahs. Fair enough.
00:19:26.600The mullahs have been anti-American for 50 years now.
00:19:29.280But this is not going to be the kind of galvanizing issue that gets Republicans out to the polls in November.
00:19:57.740Yeah, I mean, these are the kinds of things where you say, OK, great. We can we won't give Democrats the economic talking point. If we can wrap this war up quickly, we won't give them a foreign policy talking point that you know that they're salivating for. So you say, OK, great. What are those what are those bread and butter issues that the Republican primary voters need to impel them to go out in in November?
00:20:18.320You say, well, immigration is one of the biggest issues. Hold on. You're going to give Democrats the biggest win they could imagine? Even just a talking point win. Like, where is your head at? And I, well, I actually have an answer of where their heads are at, but I won't say it on air because, you know, I try not to go blue. But it's just totally bizarre.
00:20:36.640And so my recommendation to the dozen Republican congressmen who are still promoting this thing, knock it off. Stop it. Take the L. You lost. This bill sucks. It's terrible in every way. You're dangling the carrot of border security in exchange for mass amnesty. Guess what? We've heard that song before. That's exactly what the Democrats did to Reagan in the 80s. And to quote George W. Bush, fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice. The point is you're not going to fool me again.
00:21:03.180You know that we're going to get the mass amnesty. We're not going to get the border security. So knock it off. You guys lost. You tried to pull a fast one. Maybe you got duped. Maybe you're just too ignorant. Whatever it is, stop going on TV to sell this thing. Keep your traps shut. Focus on the issues that the Americans want, which coincidentally is the exact opposite of this bill.
00:21:21.000we did it for the young people listening to this we did it under reagan reagan fell for this and
00:21:27.020allowed mass amnesty for the tune of three million or so people and they just kept coming
00:21:33.800across the border it didn't solve anything it just made wave the magic wand and gave amnesty
00:21:38.360legal status to millions of illegals and and turned out to be an incentive for more to come
00:21:43.660so the the border by the way is closed right now it's closed all we really need to do is keep
00:21:48.500Trump's policies in place and build a wall so that the next president can't reopen the border.
00:21:53.800There doesn't seem to be any money in the budget for that. There does seem to be lots of money in
00:21:57.280the budget for defense, but no border wall, which is another form of defense. This is unnecessary.
00:22:05.100What is necessary is to actually start deporting people again. And Michael, you and I both know
00:22:09.240that agenda is stymied because of what happened in Minneapolis. You know, we had an internal
00:22:14.600debate within the party on whether we should do them all, or we should do just worst, not even
00:22:19.860just worst first. It's like worst only. And the worst only crowd won. And I understand it
00:22:27.500politically. I mean, we don't favor it, but I understand it because Trump's full numbers were
00:22:31.120taking a nosedive in the wake of the nonstop coverage of Minneapolis and putting the little
00:22:36.360boy on the air as though, you know, we're just so evil and we're separating. And meanwhile,
00:22:40.000is that that was that dad's fault that boy could have stayed with his mom the dad said i'm i'm
00:22:45.180taking him with me yeah and then finally when they tracked him down they said do you want him to stay
00:22:49.260with mom or come with you and he said come with me so okay whatever the media is always gonna lie
00:22:53.780in any event it's settled on the worst only and now even that has just gone completely quiet it's
00:22:59.960like i i have no idea whether we're even still pursuing that it doesn't seem to be center stage
00:23:04.660anymore and to your point we don't seem to be expending the political capital the president
00:23:09.100has left on pushing that agenda as opposed to, you know, foreign relations and military.
00:23:15.700Yeah, I think the key is going to have excursions, right? The key is going to have to be if you
00:23:20.980recognize that in Minneapolis, the Dems were able to score an optics victory. Notice it's always
00:23:26.420Minneapolis, by the way, there were mass deportations going on all around the country. But
00:23:30.500Minneapolis and Minnesota generally, we're trying to make a big show about this. They did this with
00:23:35.300the George Floyd riots five years ago, and they did it again successfully. You had Tim Walls
00:23:39.680calling for open insurrection. He was invoking 1863. Same thing goes for Jacob Fry when he was
00:23:44.460able to speak English instead of whatever the Star Wars language was that he tries to spittle out of
00:23:48.360his mouth. And so, yeah, it was an op, and it worked to some degree. So then what do you have
00:23:53.920to do? The best thing that you could possibly do politically in that case is to maybe try to
00:24:01.020counter some of the theatrics that you're going to get from the Democrats and just deport these
00:24:05.060people. The formal numbers we got out of the White House by the end of the year were, what, 700,000
00:24:09.920plus formal deportations, and then over a million self-deportations. And of course, self-deportations
00:24:15.820is going to be a little trickier to track. However, we do have it for multiple data sets,
00:24:20.180and there was an effort to say, look, if you're going to have to live in the shadows, if you're
00:24:24.300not going to have access to these welfare programs, if ICE is going to be around the corner, maybe it
00:24:28.060makes sense for you to leave the country now. And by the way, we'll give you a thousand bucks on the
00:24:31.840way out. If anywhere near those numbers are right, then that's a good start. The problem, of course,
00:24:36.920is that even if they deported three million people per year, you've got something like 20 million
00:24:41.860illegal aliens in the country. I totally recognize how brutal this problem has become, mostly because
00:24:47.780of Democrats, but also with the help of some subversive Republicans, like people such as
00:24:51.900Maria Salazar. But regardless of what it is, you just need to at least quietly keep the pressure
00:24:59.260up. Keep deporting these people. It is the most important long term political issue for the
00:25:06.000Republican Party and for the health of the United States. I'm not saying that you have to totally
00:25:10.560ignore foreign affairs or ignore economic issues or any of the rest of it. You got to juggle a lot
00:25:15.100of different spinning plates. But you cannot neglect this issue. This is the issue. This is
00:25:21.220the issue. When Trump came down the golden escalator in 2015, it was the issue that won
00:25:25.780the popular vote in 2024 and and we cannot allow ourselves to uh to put it on the back burner
00:25:32.280trump has endorsed this woman post her submission of this bill but the white house says he is not
00:25:39.200pro-amnesty and you know we we have to hold him to that that's that absolutely has to remain his
00:25:45.800position or there will be a just a complete revolt i mean there'll be no republicans left
00:25:49.920It just there's no way he can sign this bill. Moving on. This guy was not an illegal, but he was front and center in the news for a month until Charlie Kirk's assassination knocked him off the front page.
00:26:03.300The man who's accused of butchering, Irina Zarytska, the 23-year-old Ukrainian refugee on the Charlotte, North Carolina light rail, has been found incompetent to stand trial.
00:26:30.400He nonetheless has been allowed to rain terror down on the citizens of Charlotte for years.
00:26:39.780And these far left woke judges, magistrate judges and district judges there, have been sending him in and out of the courts like a revolving door with no thought for the safety of anyone, least of all Irina.
00:26:55.000and now that he takes out a knife and kills her on the light rail in a video that has haunted us
00:27:02.460all, now we have a judge declare him incompetent to face the charges. This is, I mean, it's truly
00:27:11.260the ultimate FU from a system that gave so many FUs and that is directly responsible for what
00:27:18.760happened to poor Irina on that train. Your thoughts on that? I wish we could just say that this were
00:27:25.040incompetence or an unfortunate flaw in our justice system. It's not. Now, obviously, the guy should
00:27:33.920be in prison for the rest of his life or executed by the state. If he can't be because he's not fit
00:27:39.640to stand trial, he needs to be permanently institutionalized. But we don't really do that
00:27:44.200so much anymore so what do we do with criminals such as he we just we let them out on the street
00:27:48.960to go kill more people uh that would be an incompetence and a flaw that we would have to
00:27:54.840address but unfortunately it's more than that and we know it because we can couple this with the
00:27:59.560mural scandal that took place up in rhode island i think it was there was a mural that went up
00:28:04.680for irena zarutska this poor woman who was who was murdered in what appears to be a racially
00:28:10.580motivated crime it sounded like when he was leaving the train he said i got a white woman
00:28:14.100And because of that, the mayor and a member of Congress up there said that the mural had to come down because it was divisive, divisive.
00:30:40.800So now, now that he's actually going to have to face potential accountability, they finally give him an evaluation to say, oh, he's incompetent to stand trial, which means incapable to proceed is what they've said in the state courts, not competent and to stand trial.
00:30:58.660that now a judge has to determine whether to accept the report's finding.
00:31:03.960Per North Carolina state law, a defendant is considered incapable to proceed
00:31:07.060if he cannot comprehend the nature of the charges,
00:31:11.120understand his role in the court proceedings, or assist in his defense.
00:31:16.380To restore capacity, a defendant is often treated with medication
00:31:19.500and other treatment in order to get him deemed competent.
00:31:23.560We'll see whether they do any of that.
00:31:25.620His mother told the New York Post that he is schizophrenic, saying she struggled to have him committed a long time ago and blamed the justice system.
00:31:49.640And you know what? I believe every word that she says that she did try to have him committed and that this system said, no, no, no, they had no interest. They don't create the beds. And this these blue run cities, the Democrat run cities find institutionalization inhumane.
00:32:06.580they'd rather the arenas of the world get killed and then this guy could wind up with his you know
00:32:14.140body in the electric chair too how's that humane you know like you allow these people to run around
00:32:19.220murdering people it doesn't end well for them either institutionalization is the kinder gentler
00:32:24.160option of course it is and yet in recent decade more than recent decades we just refuse to do it
00:32:30.520And so my confidence that society will actually in the long run be kept safe from this guy and guys like him is basically zero.
00:32:39.820You know, this harms everybody involved, which is true of most Democrat policies.
00:32:47.400I mean, just even getting back to the border, you know, when the Dems are promoting the open border, the first focus should be on our country and the American citizens who are victimized by mass migration.
00:32:56.980But it's worth pointing out as a side note that Amnesty International infusion found that 60 to 80 percent of women and girls who cross the border illegally are sexually assaulted on the way.
00:33:05.760So it's not exactly great for them either.
00:33:07.580You know, this is this is completely deleterious to everybody involved.
00:33:12.180And which is why it's a good hunch that the Democrats will support it.
00:33:16.260Unfortunately, in both cases, law and order and in mass migration, being followed by some squish Republicans as well.
00:33:23.160he was charged federally in addition to at the state level and there is some promising news in
00:33:30.400that the uh u.s attorney for this district in charlotte said that this man to carlos brown
00:33:35.620is in federal custody on a federal indictment the state proceedings including any competency
00:33:41.280finding in the state proceedings are completely separate so it certainly sounds like the federal
00:33:46.400government is not going to just sit by and let this guy get any sort of a pass though these same
00:33:52.260evaluations will have to happen at the federal level. He's been ordered to undergo a psychiatric
00:33:57.680examination as part of the federal court case that's just coming in. However, court filings
00:34:03.640from March 6th indicate the examination is not yet completed. The evaluation period has been
00:34:08.220extended. So we'll see. We'll see whether we can get a better result at the federal level.
00:34:13.220If this guy was fined to put back out on the streets after that bogus 911 call a year ago,
00:34:20.120not even a year ago, he should be fined to stand trial. I mean, come on, this is not somebody who
00:34:25.600was obviously incompetent to the place where, like, they had to lock him up immediately
00:34:30.880last summer. So what happened? Maybe we need to test the assertions of incompetence a little bit
00:34:36.560more robustly. You know, it's another important point here, Megan, on the federal level, as we
00:34:41.540say, well, thank goodness, at least there is a chance that justice will be served at the federal
00:34:45.480level. Well, this is a reminder for the people, especially the squish Republicans, who don't like
00:34:51.440it when the Trump administration, you know, goes in and actually exercises political power. Guys,
00:34:57.460that's our last option. You know, we don't live in a yeoman republic or some kind of confederacy
00:35:03.760here. This hands-off approach that so many Republicans have taken for political power
00:35:08.620in recent decades doesn't work. You know, the blue cities, the blue states have made clear
00:35:13.220They want these killers on the streets. They don't want to enforce the law. They're always going to take the side of the criminals over the innocent. And so the only option is for Republicans, one, to win elections and two, to actually wield the political power that they are happily given on some occasions.
00:35:28.700You know, I really hope that we can get the federal government to step in here and see justice be served.
00:35:34.880And that will be even more of an argument for the federal government to come in with a heavy hand and correct the problems that have festered at the state and local level for at least the happy time that we still have power.
00:35:48.380As I was saying, speaking of incompetent, that brings me to Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC.
00:35:54.860And to the point you were making about the racial dynamic, as we know, one of the reasons Republicans are in power now is because the left is obsessed with identity politics and the American electorate has had enough of that.
00:36:08.120I do think even many Democrats are over it. They're just over. They're overseeing their kids put through it, themselves put through it at work and so on. And yet their standard bearers, like the MSNBC primetime hosts, will let go of that stuff with their cold, dead hands.
00:36:26.220So Lawrence O'Donnell, in the midst of this war in Iran, in which there's plenty to discuss, debate, criticize,
00:36:33.000you could take your pick if you're a detractor of the presidents like Lawrence O'Donnell is.
00:36:38.560He went here. This is what he did. Take a listen to SOT-11.
00:36:43.120That brilliant rescue was described by the Secretary of Defense and by General Dan Cain,
00:36:49.180the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as a longstanding American military rule.
00:36:55.600never leaving anyone behind. We leave no man behind. That is of course the old
00:37:05.200school version of the idea back when only men flew American military planes.
00:37:11.540General Dan Cain, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, put it this way.
00:37:18.280we leave no one behind the general knows unlike pete hegseth that that could have been a woman
00:37:27.480they were trying to rescue and it might be a woman the next time uh so michael noel that was a woke
00:37:37.200chairman of the joint chiefs saying no one and that was a sexist pig secretary of war saying no
00:37:45.580man left behind. That's the issue in the eyes of Lawrence O'Donnell. Lawrence O'Donnell has become
00:37:51.380that meme. You know, the giant transvestite from the bodega, the bodega owner says, oh,
00:37:57.220come on up here, sir. He says, actually, it's ma'am. Lawrence O'Donnell is that guy's actually,
00:38:02.680Mr. Secretary, it's ma'am. This is a really great mark for the U.S. military and for the
00:38:11.700trump administration on this rescue mission this rescue mission for the the guy who goes down on
00:38:17.860good friday and he's rescued on easter sunday this thing was pulled off so flawlessly in iran so
00:38:24.200improbably that the only thing that that the labels could find to criticize is leave no man
00:38:31.180behind leave which i think most of us actually support by the way man is a gender neutral noun
00:38:38.000It can be. In the beginning, God created man. Both male and female created he them.
00:38:43.200So Lawrence O'Donnell seems to be flunking on on mere English language as well.
00:38:48.320But but on top of that, yes, you think if I were in the White House right now, I would be feeling very good about myself.
00:38:54.720Because when it comes to Iran, I argued against strikes on Iran before it happened.
00:38:59.460I am very much an Iran skeptic. If the New York Times reporting is to be believed, which, of course, is a big if.
00:39:05.440It seems like there were a lot of big figures, not just some of the advisors, but including the Secretary of State and the Vice President, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the CIA Director, who all urged a little caution on Iran.
00:39:17.200So I'm not coming out here as some belligerent war hawk or anything like that.
00:39:20.840But I think, all right, if this is the best the Libs have to attack this mission five and a half weeks in, the White House must be feeling pretty good.
00:39:27.960And especially if they can wrap it up by week six or so, and the best they have is Lawrence O'Donnell saying, well, I just don't like the word that the Secretary of War used on the historically successful mission.
00:39:39.980You know, those are pretty good marks, and then we can move on to the issues that people are really focused on.
00:39:45.480Well, I mean, I wish it were that simple, that the public does not approve of this war.
00:39:50.420The only 30 percent, the low 30s, approves of the war, and it includes a lot of Republicans who are against it, too.
00:39:56.400If only Lawrence O'Donnell were our biggest problem, that'd be fine.
00:40:03.040I miss the good old days when we just had to worry about Lawrence O'Donnell's inane comments
00:40:07.560and not share some of the disdain for the war ourselves like I do for sure.
00:40:12.280I know. Well, this is, you know, the fear is if this continues into May, June, July,
00:40:18.920I mean, the Republicans certainly can kiss the House of Representatives goodbye,
00:40:22.800but they might kiss the Senate goodbye.
00:40:25.500I mean, it really could be pretty catastrophic. And so I think, given that we're about five and a half weeks into this thing, and all in all, it hasn't descended into a quagmire yet. We're, you know, we're not looking at a 10-year occupation, hopefully.
00:40:39.000I would just say this is a good opportunity, assuming the negotiation team does a good job.
00:40:44.620Guys, let Lawrence O'Donnell be the coda.
00:40:49.980Because I agree with you, Megan, that the political risk involved in an ongoing military operation is very high.
00:40:56.400And I do fear that some of that support is soft.
00:40:59.240I fear that the 90% support, I don't think it'll drop 90 to 98 to, or sorry, 90 to 88.
00:41:05.900Yeah, yeah. I think if this goes on two months, three months, four months, I think it would drop precipitously.
00:41:12.300Yeah, I agree. And that's one of the reasons why they need to get Israel in hand, because right now they're bombing the hell out of Lebanon, and Iran's claiming that was part of the deal, and Israel and the United States is claiming it wasn't.
00:41:25.380Yeah, and there's no traffic going in the Strait of Hormuz, and the ceasefire is sort of, I don't know, we're not sure if it's on or off because of this.
00:41:32.840So it's not great. We need to get them in hand because we do need a ceasefire.
00:41:36.440The ceasefire was a good negotiation like that.
00:41:38.920That was a very good development that we'd like to see hold more on that coming up in just a bit.
00:41:43.920While we're on the subject of deranged leftists who will get some of us off the couch, even if we're feeling somewhat dejected.
00:41:56.960That's saying I always give you credit when I say it.
00:41:58.900Our evil top hat is once again up to evil, where the new Democratic Party up there, this MP, she's a member of parliament, Leah Ghazan, has added more letters to the LGBTQ acronym that already exists.
00:42:21.340There is a translation coming, but listen to this nutcase.
00:42:25.340When the budget was released, I was shocked to find out that Prime Minister Carney is cutting $7 billion between Indigenous Services Canada and Crown Indigenous Relations.
00:42:38.100They provided $0 to deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+.
00:42:49.900This is callous because the very liberal government that has stripped organizations of life-sustaining funding has now promised, committed $13 billion, $13 billion on military spending.
00:43:10.440Indigenous women across this country, Indigenous women, girls 2SLGBTQQIA+, are not safe.
00:43:18.560In fact, rates of violence are increasing. And what is the prime minister doing? He is turning a blind eye on this violence.
00:43:27.560I wish we could turn a blind ear, a deaf ear here.
00:43:31.960Your colleague, Matt Walsh, gave us the explainer on X to quote him exactly.
00:43:38.660He writes, for those who don't speak woke retard, I looked it up and apparently MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA plus means missing and murdered indigenous women, girls and two spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex and asexual.
00:44:00.660asexual. He goes on. So apparently, they've added murdered people into the LGBT community.
00:44:09.140Murdered is now a queer identity. This is the kind of innovation we get from Canada.
00:44:15.480It's the ultimate victimhood, for sure. I'm actually surprised it took this long. When
00:44:19.780the woman was speaking, I wondered if that was the liberal version of glossolalia. Is that like
00:44:24.840libs but you know pentecostals have the glossolalia the the the tongue speaking but i think that was
00:44:31.100the lib version and so i my colleague matt is typically subtle and when he gave his definition
00:44:42.160i had to look up not just what the words meant but what the the letters literally meant but what
00:44:48.940was meant by even stating them why would you include murdered and missing women girls gay
00:44:56.300two-spirit two-spirit which by the way is a term that the left says was was an ancient
00:45:02.680indigenous term to refer to people of multiple sexes that's not true it was actually coined by
00:45:08.620a lesbian in 1990 named Maya Laramie who said it came to her in a dream at the indigenous lesbian
00:45:14.840conference so even that is a product i think of white liberal civilization in a kind of odd way
00:45:20.580in but so i looked it up i said okay well how many of these people are missing and murdered and
00:45:25.860more importantly who's doing the murdering who if these people are are being kidnapped if they're
00:45:31.280being murdered i think we got to focus on the murderers don't we so i looked it up and it turns
00:45:36.020out according to multiple studies and data sets that 80 to 86 percent of the time the people who
00:45:43.560are murdering and kidnapping the people are spouses, friends, relatives, acquaintances.
00:45:52.380In other words, the people who are murdering the LMNOP, et cetera, people are the LMNOP,
00:46:09.460But if you want to solve the problem, then I would not blame, as this woman does, this MP in America's Evil Top Hat, I wouldn't blame the white, colonial, patriarchal.
00:47:01.940Now, this isn't a left-right thing, but every once in a while this happens and it's always just so embarrassing. CNN has had to apologize, Michael, for publishing an article remembering the life of Michael J. Fox, who is alive and well and very much not deceased.
00:47:20.960how does this happen they've now had to apologize to him after sharing a tribute to the back to the
00:47:30.020future star on wednesday prompting fears he had died at age 64 yes if you see remembering the
00:47:36.100life of you are led to believe that life has ended they later took the article down and a
00:47:42.100spokesperson told tmz which broke this news the package was published in error we have removed it
00:47:47.920from our platforms and sent our apologies to Michael J. Fox and his family. It came after
00:47:52.900Fox's own representative debunked the report telling TMZ he's doing great. He was at Paley
00:47:58.380Fest yesterday. He was on stage and was giving interviews, again, very much alive. So I don't
00:48:07.300know exactly. I truly don't know how this happens because it's happened so often. Like anybody
00:48:12.700responsible for pressing published on this, like in today's day and age, was somebody who's
00:48:17.760relatively young would know. Like, let's make sure Twitter constantly leads us to believe this has
00:48:23.140happened when it has. Like, don't go off Twitter. As far as I know, he wasn't the subject of some
00:48:27.200hoax on Twitter. But how humiliating. Well, I'll tell you exactly how it happens, Megan.
00:48:32.580These people don't know anything. And I think a lot of us understand that at a deep level.
00:48:40.500But then we're fooled because we turn on the TV and the people are wearing suits and ties and
00:48:46.280they're speaking in a very serious voice or we open up the new york times or the washington post
00:48:50.580and they have really nice fonts you know really nice serif fonts with with real commanding
00:48:55.800authoritative lettering i i forget if it was the new york times or the washington post just a week
00:49:00.760or so ago published a headline a north american treaty organization nato without america it was
00:49:08.360the times wasn't it and i i said the north american i don't know about any north american
00:49:12.640Treaty Organization. Are you referring to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization? Are you
00:49:17.320referring to the main Western military alliance for the last 70 years that you, the New York
00:49:22.580Times, you couldn't even, the whole premise of publishing an article like that is to say that
00:49:28.780NATO would be incoherent without America because it's the American Treaty Organization. One,
00:49:35.480there's no evidence we're actually pulling out of NATO, so their first premise is wrong. But then
00:49:39.080their second one you couldn't even look up the acronym you think wow these people and you know
00:49:43.660it i mean you and the editors how did he get past the editors but you know this megan because you
00:49:48.140you read some story on one of these sites and it's if it's about something you don't know anything
00:49:52.120about so for me i don't know what do i know about uh what's going on in the middle east or what's
00:49:57.240going on in some advanced sector of the economy i don't know anything so i'm inclined to take their
00:50:01.480word for it but then i get to the new york yankees and i know a lot about the new york yankees or i
00:50:05.900get to a story about cigars or whatever i know about ukuleles something i know about and i
00:50:09.860realize that what i'm reading is totally wrong and yet somehow i still get duped into believing
00:50:15.580that these guys know what they're talking about on the other side they don't know the most basic
00:50:20.800things so i'm really pleased to see that they're still ignorant and michael j fox is alive
00:50:25.940yeah and he's still here good for him bad for cnn and bad on the new york times for making that
00:50:32.640terrible error. How humiliating. Michael Knowles, a pleasure, my friend. Great to see you. Good to
00:50:36.920see you as always, Megan. Thank you for having me. All right. Up next, Anna Kasparian is here.
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00:51:45.040Vice President J.D. Vance is headed to Pakistan this weekend, where he will have his work cut
00:51:49.720out for him. He has been charged by the president with getting a deal that gets the Iranians to
00:51:56.200permanently end this war. Mr. Trump and the Iranians agreeing to a ceasefire on Tuesday.
00:52:02.000And despite all the celebrations, it only lasts for two weeks. That is if it kind of really fully
00:52:07.760gets started. I mean, there's still a lot of fighting going on involving Israel and Iran.
00:52:13.320The ceasefire is fragile. That's a major understatement. The Iranians say they've now
00:52:18.840opened the Strait of Hormuz as part of the deal. You remember yesterday, they kind of said they
00:52:25.940were closing it. And that dovetails with what we saw reported. The New York Times reported that
00:52:30.380the waterway yesterday had its lowest ship traffic since the war started. Zero oil or gas tankers
00:52:37.120made the crossing. So like, that's the main thing we wanted in the ceasefire. We were going to stop
00:52:41.960bombing them and they were going to open the Strait, but then they didn't open the Strait
00:52:44.520because our great, our super great and loyal partner, Israel, kept bombing Lebanon.
00:52:49.080And the Iranians are like, hello, that's part of the deal.
00:55:43.660And establishing peaceful relations between Israel and Lebanon.
00:55:46.500OK, that's not exactly how he sounded on camera 24 hours ago.
00:55:51.460He he he was really excited about the prospect to keep this thing going.
00:55:59.180Just even despite announcing that they're going to talk with the Lebanese and Israeli officials telling Axios right now that Israel is not observing a ceasefire in Lebanon.
00:56:08.740So it's like, OK, we'll talk, but we're going to continue bombing you to smithereens.
00:56:12.160And here is what Netanyahu said yesterday.
00:56:15.000There's a voiceover, so you can hear it in English.
00:59:19.440But they are willing to use, you know, force, right, any force necessary in order to push
00:59:27.420back against the IDF's attempts at annexing land.
00:59:30.860So the Israelis can have as many conversations with the Lebanese government as they want, but the Lebanese government has no control over Hezbollah. And in fact, disarming Hezbollah would lead to a serious civil war in Lebanon. It's impossible. The Lebanese military is incredibly weak. Hezbollah is actually stronger than the Lebanese military, by the way, by design.
00:59:53.480So if you look at these Middle Eastern countries and how leadership has changed or how regime changes have taken place, it's always in an effort to install a puppet government or a puppet regime that will be deferential to Israel and its expansionist policies, or they will do regime change in an effort to destabilize a country, which is what happened in Lebanon.
01:00:17.360I mean, I watch these maneuvers like we did Netanyahu's war for him. We did what he wanted us to do. And now, thank God, we're trying to end it. And he clearly doesn't like that. He's bombing the hell out of Lebanon right as we say we're trying to have a ceasefire here.
01:00:39.100And the first bullet point of the proposed deal is includes Lebanon.
01:01:08.460I think there are multiple factors to look at. And this is a big question that Tucker Carlson has been asking through his monologues. And I'm glad he's asking these questions because it's really important that we Americans live in a sovereign country where our elected leaders represent our best interests.
01:01:26.180What we've been seeing in regard to US foreign policy is decisions being made that are not at
01:01:32.460all beneficial for the American people. And certainly starting this war with Iran is a
01:01:37.080perfect example of it. First of all, let me just thank you for the interview you did yesterday
01:01:42.200with Piers Morgan, because you hit the nail on the head. There's no question that Trump was
01:01:48.720honestly manipulated by the Israelis who put into his head this notion that a war against Iran would
01:01:55.100be easy. It would be simple, even though experts and I'm not even talking about experts, just
01:02:00.440ordinary people in the media who are paying close attention could have told Trump that Iran is going
01:02:06.340to close the Strait of Hormuz. That is where their leverage is. But he did it anyway. And there is no
01:02:12.320easy military strategy to take control of the Strait of Hormuz if you pay close attention.
01:02:18.920Just to interject, Israel reportedly told Trump, Netanyahu reportedly told Trump at that meeting
01:02:23.700that the Iranians would be so weakened by our initial strikes that they couldn't effect control
01:02:29.400over the Strait of Hormuz. Completely wrong. Keep going. That is completely wrong. Exactly.
01:02:34.540And, you know, here's the here's the telling part of that entire conversation.
01:02:38.760OK, well, if Iran is so weakened, why don't you send the IDF in there?
01:02:44.340Why are you trying to get the United States to send their service members in there?
01:03:17.460Usually our lawmakers will make decisions, questioning war and peace, right? Questions
01:03:23.980of war and peace. They will make decisions that are taking into consideration what's in our best
01:03:29.480interest. But when it comes to Israel, it's a completely different story. And we have to ask
01:03:33.620ourselves, why? Why does Israel have that type of influence over our government? Because if they do,
01:03:40.840and if we have lawmakers and members of the executive branch looking out for a foreign
01:03:45.160country before they look out for us. We don't live in a sovereign country. And I do think that
01:03:49.920the Israel lobby is part of this. I do think that blackmail is part of this. OK, as upset as people
01:03:55.860get when you say it. I mean, the Epstein cover up, I think it goes beyond just covering up for
01:04:03.140pedophiles. I think that there is an actual system in place to blackmail people in positions of power
01:04:10.380to carry out the best interests of Israel. I mean, you look at that. That's very interesting.
01:04:14.360You look at the Epstein files, Megan. Please pay attention to the audience, you know, to DropSite's reporting on this because DropSite looked through all the documents that we have access to and they went beyond like, oh, who's a pedophile? Who's doing this? No, no. They wanted to see who is Epstein working for? And DropSite was able to draw direct links to the Israeli government. Epstein was working for the Israeli government. Now, was he, you know.
01:04:41.500No, you're an anti-Semite if you say that, Anna. You're an anti-Semite. You hate Jewish people
01:04:46.220if you say that. I guess the truth is anti-Semitic, but I'm going to keep speaking the truth because
01:04:50.720it's important for Americans to know what's going on. Yeah. Wait, this is, you're kind of blowing
01:04:56.080my mind right now because I have heard some people suggest maybe there's some blackmail here. Like
01:05:01.760what got Trump to listen to Bibi Netanyahu to contradict his own campaign promises,
01:05:08.660repeated campaign promises, was explicit about no more Middle East wars. Not just no more war,
01:05:15.280no more Middle East wars. And yes, it said Iran can't get a nuclear weapon, but promised no wars
01:05:21.060and had already bombed Iran's nuclear facilities. So what was it that persuaded him to do this?
01:05:27.920And I heard Joe Kent tell Tucker, maybe there was some sort of a blackmail situation. It was like,
01:05:34.060he was maybe perhaps slightly less explicit about it, but he was clearly intimating.
01:05:38.680It's possible that the president was blackmailed or something was held over his head.
01:05:42.380Maybe there was something he, I think he mentioned like Trump's family could be hurt.
01:05:46.280Something could happen. And it was speculation. It wasn't like, I know it, I've seen everything
01:05:51.160and it was there. So I kind of was like, oh, I guess who am I to rule it out? I don't know.
01:05:55.420But this is the first time I've had somebody tie it together with Epstein because Anna,
01:06:02.020What are the two biggest betrayals of the MAGA base since Trump took office?
01:06:10.000Or I guess now we need to talk about it as the America First base because there's a split.
01:06:17.540Like the two things that felt completely like a middle finger to the people who elected Trump, like the core Republicans who had elected Trump.
01:06:25.300They did not see Epstein as a nothing burger, and they definitely held or intended to hold him to his promise of no more Middle East wars.
01:06:33.640And you're saying it's no accident that those are the two that he betrayed people on, that there may have been, there may be something that made him feel vulnerable on Epstein or somebody around him he's concerned about that was vulnerable on Epstein.
01:06:47.760And the people who maybe had that information wanted a payment in military blood and treasure.
01:06:55.300Yeah, I mean, look, I do think that there is a connection with what happened or how the Epstein files were handled. But even if the Epstein files in no way implicate Donald Trump, there's one other factor that I want to bring up.
01:07:10.120And it's actually a factor that you yourself have experienced on a very personal level.
01:07:15.180There are, in my opinion, people within our country who are less interested in their American patriotism and more interested in serving as Israeli operatives.
01:07:29.920And I think Mark Levin happens to be one of those people.
01:07:32.520So these pressure campaigns, these threats, these efforts to literally destroy your life and your livelihood if you don't play ball, I do think that those intimidation tactics have been very successful in this country, and it's about time we push back, and I'm happy to see that people like you are pushing back.
01:07:51.520I'm pushing back myself. I've lost jobs. I've lost opportunities as a result of how vocal I've
01:07:58.140been on this issue. But I care about my country more than I care about my pocketbook. And it's
01:08:02.500really important for us to live in a sovereign country. On top of that, when it comes to the
01:08:06.560manipulation tactics that were used against Trump, not to rob him of his agency. At the end of the
01:08:10.960day, he's the commander in chief and he made the decision. However, we can't deny the fact that
01:08:16.340Trump has an ego, as anyone who wants to be president very likely has. And it's easy to
01:08:23.160manipulate him by stroking his ego. So telling him these magical stories about how he's going
01:08:30.460to be the world's hero by demolishing the Iranian regime and freeing the Iranian people,
01:08:36.360and it's going to be so easy, and you're going to get so much credit for it. I think those
01:08:39.920manipulation tactics are also very effective on someone like Donald Trump, who likes to see
01:08:44.460himself as a hero. I think that's all you need. Yeah. That's all you need. I don't think you need
01:08:48.460to go blackmail. I mean, I'm, I'm open-minded to the possibility of blackmail because honestly,
01:08:52.340my, my past nine months have proven to me that there's nothing, they will stop at nothing to
01:08:58.160get you to bend the knee, nothing. And I'm just a podcaster. I'm a journalist. Imagine if you're
01:09:04.040the president of the United States. I don't think they would stop at anything. And I, I mean,
01:09:09.820Israel and its emissaries, foreign and domestic. Um, I, I actually believe that Mark Levin would
01:09:18.660like to have me killed. I do believe it. I think he'd be thrilled to see me taken out. Like
01:09:23.560actually that's so fucking crazy to me, Anna. Like I, there's no one, no one politically who
01:09:29.620I would ever wish that upon ever. There's no one whose death I would celebrate. There's no one
01:09:33.600whom I would intentionally endanger with really crazy ass rhetoric. He knows what he says about
01:09:42.460Tucker, about me, about many others is actually endangering, you know, to, to over and over
01:09:49.880call somebody a neo-Nazi, um, to suggest that they want Jews killed because they say things like
01:09:56.940young people no longer support israel it's so irresponsible it's it's lunacy it is and so
01:10:04.800there's something wrong there there's something wrong there's something going on there not only
01:10:08.660that i mean it's when you listen to the way that he talks about war and what should be considered
01:10:17.340you know as one of the many options especially in this war against iran i mean he's totally fine
01:10:24.220with using nukes against Iran, wiping out an entire population of innocent people who,
01:10:30.640you know, we were all told that the Israelis want to liberate from the regime, right? This is why
01:10:36.940I just didn't buy the narrative from the very beginning. And people thought I was being cruel.
01:10:41.920People were thinking that I'm being supportive of the IRGC. I don't know if people realize this.
01:10:47.480I don't believe in living under a theocracy, number one, and the rules that they have
01:10:54.000given their, you know, theocratic interpretation. I just I reject wholeheartedly. However,
01:11:00.260that doesn't mean I'm going to be stupid enough to believe for a second that the current Israeli
01:11:05.480government gives a damn about the liberation of the Iranian people. And this idea that in order
01:11:11.560to liberate people, you have to bomb them and kill them is ridiculous. So, yeah, when it comes
01:11:16.560to people like Mark Levin, I think what you're kind of getting at is his demonstrable lack of
01:11:25.260concern for human life, for innocent human life. Yes. So that tells me that there are
01:11:34.140emissaries of Israel who will stop at nothing in order to get you to bend the knee. And that's like
01:11:40.100the thing that's so crazy. It's not about me at all, but my example is telling because I've been
01:11:45.980so pro-Israel. And he and his little friends started coming for me so hard on the most
01:11:52.080mild comments about Israel that it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's happening here?
01:11:58.140And I know that people who had already gone before me down that lane were kind of happy to see it
01:12:03.420happen to me just because they were like, you see, do you see now what they do? And I do see now,
01:12:47.160Well, it's interesting because, you know, historically, the left has always been a little
01:12:53.480suspicious of the U.S.-Israeli alliance, has been far more critical of how Israel has
01:12:59.420prosecuted, you know, wars and especially what they carried out in Gaza.
01:13:04.180I mean, but but here's what kind of changed as a result of how Israel prosecuted the war in Gaza, which I believe is a genocide based on now multiple organizations, including organizations within Israel who call it a genocide.
01:13:19.340But putting that aside, that whole situation started to wake others up, right, conservative people up. And when Israel is starting to lose the support of American conservatives, they know that overall support for Israel from the United States is in jeopardy, which is why I think the campaigns against people like you, Charlie Kirk, before he was killed, were far more vicious, far more vicious than even the, you know, campaigns
01:13:49.120against me. The campaigns against me have been terrible. They've gone after family members of
01:13:52.600mine who aren't political at all, don't even know what's going on. They don't pay attention to
01:13:56.020international news, right? They're in a completely different world. And suddenly,
01:14:00.120you know, their employers are calling them into the office to ask about my political views.
01:14:05.340That's how vicious these people are. That's how vicious they are. But I've seen them be far more
01:14:10.540vicious with you. I mean, you are and have been historically very supportive of Israel.
01:14:15.440I remember this whole thing with you began when you refused to denounce Candace Owens.
01:14:20.420How about how about you're responsible for what you say and Candace is responsible for
01:14:24.740what she says, period, period, end of story.
01:14:37.100And that, of course, I disagree with Candace about Erica.
01:14:39.920And Candace knows that in the world knows that I said it repeatedly.
01:14:42.120But what they're really mad about is that I wouldn't denounce Candace asking questions about Israel in the wake of Charlie's death.
01:14:51.020And you hit on one of the reasons why Charlie and I bonded in this now famous conversation we had a month before he was murdered over the immense pressure being put on both of us to be to remain very pro-Israel.
01:15:06.320And we both were annoyed, exasperated and deeply offended by already the terms being used about us for the mildest of conversations we had had about Epstein.
01:15:18.940He he had had it. He was also trying to give voice to young peoples, just young people had already started turning on Israel, even within the Republican Party.
01:15:27.380And he was trying to give voice to that. No, you're not allowed to. And that text message thread that ultimately came out that he was having behind the scenes saying he's had it with the Jewish donors who are threatening him. So they really wanted me to say how bad Candace was for even mentioning Israel in the wake of Charlie's death.
01:15:43.780And I wouldn't condemn her because I favored her asking those questions 100 percent, even though I think Tyler Robinson did it.
01:15:51.760I'm fine with asking questions about, was it only Tyler?
01:16:21.940you will condemn her over Erica or you're a bad person.
01:16:26.160And I said, absolutely not, we're not playing that game.
01:16:28.820And some people still believe the lie that that's what it's about. It's not what it's about. And I will never bend the knee to these bullies who tortured Charlie at a minimum. They tortured Charlie in his last two months on Earth. That's a fact. I will never bend the knee to them. So that's where we.
01:16:46.460Yeah. And in fact, you know, say what you will about, you know, any of the other commentary that Candace has done. You do have to give her credit for revealing the truth about what Charlie Kirk was experiencing in the final months of his life. It's important for people to know that which they denied. Exactly. They called her a liar. She was right.
01:17:05.320Yeah. And, you know, the other thing, just quickly going back to the Epstein files, which I found fascinating. The specific personalities in American media that seem to want to engage in the cover up, I think that's telling, right?
01:17:22.620the various members of U.S. media that kept repeating over and over again that the American
01:17:27.880people don't really care about the Epstein files. The Epstein files don't matter. Oh,
01:17:32.620Americans are paying attention to other things that matter more to them. No, no, they cared
01:17:36.840about the Epstein files and they still care about the Epstein files. But they do care.
01:17:40.920But we should pay attention to the various media figures who downplayed it, who said it wasn't
01:17:46.440important, who, quite frankly, appear to be part of this effort to cover up the Epstein files.
01:17:53.400Why? Why do those people engage in that type of commentary? What are they afraid of when it comes
01:17:58.140to the release of the Epstein files? Just something to keep in mind. And now now we've
01:18:03.360been misled on the Epstein files yet again because we had this bill passed into law demanding these
01:18:09.880disclosures with huge exceptions that allowed the DOJ to remove really any problematic documents
01:18:17.100that they thought made this person or that look bad. So now we have, it's almost worse than had
01:18:23.060nothing been released because we have almost fake transparency where they can say like,
01:18:26.940oh, everything's been released. It's like, no, trust me, as a lawyer, I see the glaring
01:18:32.260loopholes in this law so clearly. It's like next to as good as doing nothing. And now we get,
01:18:39.100now they can pretend that they've done full disclosure the doj says it's done disclosing
01:18:43.460all documents and there's some trove someplace that has who knows what in it and i don't know
01:18:49.100whether we'll ever know the full truth what do you think i mean we still don't know the full
01:18:53.540truth about jfk's assassination they didn't release all the jfk files which i find a little
01:18:58.740questionable right and i disagree a little bit in that i'm glad they released what they did release
01:19:05.500I mean, you have to admit, I mean, the members of Trump's administration did not do a good job in covering up what they did actually end up releasing. Right. So thanks to what they did release, we were able to draw those direct links between Epstein and the Israeli government when it came to other deals.
01:19:24.180Like Epstein was very much involved in foreign policy, in striking deals between Israel and the UAE, in striking deals with Israel and other countries as it pertains to cyber weapons. And so those narratives aren't as sexy. It's not as scandalous for Americans because it doesn't involve disgusting people in positions of power who happen to be disgusting pedophiles and freaks.
01:19:48.700However, I do think it's important to understand how Epstein was used as a tool by intelligence organizations. Right. And Mossad.
01:19:58.820Okay, but here, so we have to talk about this.
01:24:02.000And rather than look like we were weak, Trump just said, oh, it was never part of the deal.
01:24:07.780Yeah. And by the way, it's also the case that at a minimum, the New York Times is reporting this today. We reviewed the prime minister's bullet points. So like it looks like we drafted them. But the New York Times is reporting today that we actually approved them. We saw them before he released them. Of course we did. Pakistan had nothing to do with this. They just came in to broker a ceasefire, which they they quote unquote did. I mean, that too was a lie.
01:24:57.180And, you know, one other thing that I'll say is days before the war started, you had the mediator from Oman on on one of the Sunday shows speaking with Margaret Brennan, and he had disclosed what the outcome of the negotiations were.
01:25:13.600These are the negotiations involving Iran, Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, and Oman was mediating those negotiations. So the mediator goes on the Sunday show and basically says, Iran is willing to give up their enriched uranium.
01:25:28.400They are willing to go further than the Iranians were willing to go in Obama's Iran nuclear deal
01:25:35.480known as the JCPOA. I remember watching that and seeing Margaret Brennan just shocked at how far
01:25:41.980Iran was willing to go in order to avoid war. But it's really interesting because Steve Whitcoff,
01:25:48.540same weekend, also goes on the Sunday shows, and he lies about what the Iranians were willing to
01:25:55.900sacrifice, to give up, to concede in order to prevent war. Why did he do that? Why did he
01:26:01.820sabotage peace? And so that makes me a little- We know why. It makes me very concerned. We know
01:26:07.840why, because Netanyahu was making the pitch to Trump that the Ayatollah and his top emissaries
01:26:14.580were going to be above ground on this certain date at the end of February. And it was the
01:26:18.840opportunity of a lifetime to take him out. You'll be hailed as a hero. And we heard my old pal Mark
01:26:24.580Thieson on Fox News actually tell Mark Levin that this was going to be seen as like the greatest
01:26:28.820military battle since the American Revolution or victory since the American. I mean, like
01:26:32.580that sort of like huge soaring rhetoric about how Trump would be seen his place in history.
01:26:39.880And he got talked into it. That's. And so, of course, you know, Whitcoff and Kushner
01:26:45.060were like, OK, fine. You know, like they didn't cave on all of our points. There was plenty of
01:26:50.120reason to be like, they suck, you know, forget them. We're going to do this thing that I want
01:26:55.180to do anyway. That's, that seems to me how it went down. And that's what the reporting supports.
01:27:00.120And here we are. All right, standby. I have to take a quick break. We're not done. We're going
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01:29:59.460Anna Kasparian is back with me now. So where do we go from here? How do you see this going? Right. Given given all the relative concerns and goals of the players we've been discussing, how do you see it going from here?
01:30:10.720I think that there is no stopping the very real awakening that's happening among Americans right
01:30:18.460now. And so I've noticed that there is a successful tactic that the Israelis use,
01:30:25.780I believe, in our own country, but certainly in their neighboring countries. What they like to do
01:30:31.020is pit people against each other. So they're so busy fighting each other that they're distracted
01:30:38.600from what israel's up to right and i think that that has happened to some extent here in the
01:30:42.400united states there are americans on the left and right who are aware of what's going on but i do see
01:30:50.580some figures who are like terrified of like building coalitions or working with the other side
01:30:55.900on changing our system on this very issue on this specific issue it doesn't mean you have to agree
01:31:00.520on everything else doesn't mean you have to start a family with someone on the opposite end of the
01:31:04.000political aisle. But I do think that Americans need to wake up from tribal thinking where they
01:31:10.140think like my side is perfect, their side is evil. No, no. There are areas of important agreement
01:31:16.880between the two sides. And so if there is an area where we can work together to maybe change
01:31:23.700some of the influences that are baked into our government that allow for our politicians to
01:31:29.160serve the best interests of a foreign country over our own, like we need to work together to
01:31:33.000change that immediately. I mean, it's happening organically, don't you think, with the approval
01:31:38.240rating of Israel going down so precipitously amongst Americans? That's going to happen
01:31:43.460naturally. AIPAC cannot spend its way out of that with these politicians, because I really think
01:31:49.300next presidential election, the issue of Israel and being controlled by donations from AIPAC
01:31:56.380is going to be an issue we're going to hear about on both sides as we ferret out who the proper
01:32:01.720nominee should be. Yeah, absolutely. In fact, just yesterday on The Young Turks, I made a point
01:32:09.660about how, you know, if you are a Democrat who's in a solidly red district, you don't have a chance
01:32:18.280in hell of getting a Democrat elected. Get active in the primaries for the Republican race, right?
01:32:25.260Like what I would do if I were in that kind of position. I mean, I'm in California, so I'm not
01:32:28.680in that position. But if I were, I would look at the two Republican candidates in the primary and
01:32:34.320ask myself, do either one of them reject money from the Israel lobby? And if one of them does,
01:32:41.060I'm going to cast my ballot for that Republican, right? Because you've got to think strategically
01:32:46.060about what you want our country to look like. And you're not going to improve it if you're so
01:32:50.720obsessed with your own party identity that you're unwilling to maybe hear out candidates on the
01:32:56.280other side of the aisle. That's kind of where I'm at on that issue. That's just one example
01:33:00.520of something that can be done. But in regard to what we do, Megan, for our careers, I have no
01:33:06.680problem collaborating with people on the right. I have no problem debating people on the right
01:33:12.080either in a simple way on other issues. But if Tucker Carlson wants to work with me, if you want
01:33:17.220to work with me, if we want to find a way to work together to get the message out to our audiences
01:33:22.640on this incredibly important issue. I am ready and willing to do it, knowing that there are
01:33:27.900people on my side. I'm going to deal with friendly fire from them because they think you should only
01:33:32.060talk to your own side. No, I'm not going to do that. And more importantly, I'm not going to
01:33:36.260condemn people based on what a mob demands of me. Right. So I get that same tree opposite.
01:33:44.200Exactly. Exactly. The timing of it. It's now official that all 18 to 25 year olds will
01:33:50.580automatically be registered for the draft here in America.
01:33:54.220They've made it super easy where it's like automatic now.