The Megyn Kelly Show - Smoking Gun Biden Cover-Up Admission, Brutal KJP Interview, and Zohran's ＂Aunt＂ Lie, with Ruthless Podcast ｜ Ep. 1181

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00:00:49.320 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:57.040 Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, a devastating new video just released 0.98

00:01:07.480 of one of Joe Biden's top advisors admitting to a massive payday if his boss stayed in the 2024 race

00:01:16.520 and was able to win despite his obvious cognitive decline.

00:01:22.460 This is really remarkable. We're now getting a look front and center of what appears to be the motive.

00:01:29.480 The motive. It wasn't sheer power. It was also greed from the look of this thing.

00:01:36.720 We're going to show you the unbelievable two-minute clip. We didn't cut one second from it because we want you

00:01:43.300 to see the entire thing. Wait until you see this guy. You've heard his name a lot, Mike Donilon.

00:01:49.020 He was all over that Tapper book. He's as close as you can be to Joe Biden. He was one of the two

00:01:55.640 who was around him talking to him about his allegedly OK polls. I remember when Nancy Pelosi was like,

00:02:02.520 I don't think your team is giving you the right information. And now we're starting, it appears,

00:02:07.280 to learn why. Again, it wasn't just we want the presidency. It appears to have been

00:02:13.300 the good old-fashioned sin of greed. I'll show you the clip and you'll make your own decision.

00:02:19.780 This clip we're about to show you, it's not just about the campaign. It's about Joe Biden's entire

00:02:24.500 presidency and whether it was nothing more than a money-making operation for, yes, his family.

00:02:31.520 We knew that one. But also his friends, his top advisors. This thing raises real questions about

00:02:37.420 whether this entire cover-up was about cold, hard cash. The video was released today by the

00:02:45.700 House Oversight Committee. It is of former top Biden senior advisor, Mike Donilon. It was reported

00:02:52.840 over the summer that Donilon told the committee he was paid $4 million to work on Joe Biden's 2024

00:02:59.760 campaign. And he was set to receive an additional, on top of that $4 million, an additional $4 million

00:03:06.260 if Biden was re-elected. I mean, just think about that. It's one thing to know that, like on paper,

00:03:12.940 it's quite another to see him admit it. You're not going to believe this tape. However, the release of

00:03:19.580 the video, all right, telling the committee that information, four and then another four,

00:03:24.880 it's just so damning because of the way he does it. Wait until you see this. He pauses. He stutters.

00:03:31.560 It's a very simple question. You can see him trying to game it out in his head,

00:03:35.720 seeing if there's any way around this enormous admission he's going to have to make.

00:03:41.480 Would he have received money if Joe Biden were re-elected? That's the question. Very simple.

00:03:47.040 Yes or no. You all know whether you stand to make $4 million upon the re-election of a president

00:03:52.520 if you're working for him. Think you'd know that right away? I think I'd know that.

00:03:56.480 It's a yes or no question. But it's very clear he knows the answer and is trying like a mouse in a

00:04:05.200 maze to find a way around it. But he's not clever enough. He tries to avoid answering, but eventually

00:04:12.480 he's forced to admit the truth. Watch this entire two minute painful thing. Just to be clear,

00:04:20.240 would the amount of pay you received for your role on the campaign, would that have changed

00:04:26.220 depending on how far into the race President Biden made it?

00:04:31.180 My sense is that

00:04:44.560 that

00:04:49.720 he

00:04:54.040 in my view, the money was

00:05:09.160 that

00:05:18.300 it was a guarantee that it came back

00:05:20.520 that

00:05:21.520 that

00:05:21.540 we had a negotiation. And

00:05:25.200 that's my memory of the agreement.

00:05:31.280 Would you have received a bonus depending on

00:05:34.980 the way the campaign went? Was that a possibility?

00:05:38.460 How the campaign went. Were there any circumstances in which you would have received a bonus?

00:05:56.220 Yes, there was. What were those circumstances? That Joe Biden would have been re-elected President

00:06:06.220 Re-elected President of the United States. What was, what was the bonus have been?

00:06:12.220 Um, I believe it would have been, uh, $4 million. In addition to the $4 million that you were already

00:06:21.880 paid? Yes. It's hard to hear that last number, but it was another four. Got four and would have gotten

00:06:28.260 another four if Joe Biden had been re-elected. Can you believe what we just saw? Just, just to go over

00:06:34.480 it. The first question was from Peter Spector, House Oversight Committee staff member. He asks,

00:06:39.680 just to be clear, would the amount of pay you receive for your role in the campaign, would that

00:06:42.740 have changed depending on how far into the race President Biden made it? Is that confusing to you?

00:06:47.760 Is that confusing to you, members of the audience? It's pretty straightforward. Just to be clear,

00:06:53.980 would the amount of pay you receive for your role on the campaign, would that have changed depending

00:06:56.940 on how far into the race President Biden made it? Yes or no? That's what we spent over a minute

00:07:02.240 hemming and hawing on. My sense is, I'm not going to repeat the pausing, but you heard it. In my view,

00:07:10.500 finally comes out with the money. It was a guarantee. The campaign, we had a negotiation,

00:07:16.360 and that's my memory of the agreement. It's a non-answer. He won't answer. He's clearly dodging.

00:07:22.360 He's self-conscious. He knows they've got him. He knows the motive for his terrible behavior is about

00:07:30.060 to be outed in what I presume was an under oath deposition. We are all under oath when we give a

00:07:35.860 deposition. And he wouldn't even answer yes or no. All he says was, it was a guarantee. That doesn't

00:07:41.660 answer our question on whether it would have gone up or down. Sure, there could have been a guarantee for

00:07:47.420 some portion of it, but they're asking you, would that have changed depending on how far into the

00:07:52.200 race President Biden made it? And now we know as we get to the end, because they followed up like

00:07:56.100 good lawyers saying, no, we're asking whether it would have gone up. You had a bonus if he got

00:08:00.940 reelected. And finally, he says yes. So you know he was fucking lying there when he was answering,

00:08:06.560 oh, it was a guarantee. That's my memory. He was lying. That's obvious. Good for them for following 0.99

00:08:14.660 up. A lesser lawyer wouldn't have done it. These guys did. And then you heard Margaret Harker, 0.95

00:08:19.480 senior advisor to the House Oversight Committee, assuming this is a lawyer, don't know. You never

00:08:23.240 received a bonus depending on the way the campaign went. Was that a possibility? How the campaign went?

00:08:30.480 This is a top political operative. Who does he think he's kidding? You know exactly what she's asking.

00:08:36.380 You're afraid. You utter coward. You greedy coward. 1.00

00:08:40.340 Wow. This guy. How the campaign went? She follows up. Were there any circumstances in which 1.00

00:08:48.780 you would have received a bonus? Now he can't wiggle. Finally, yes, it was. Of course, he's

00:08:54.900 playing word games like trying to feign confusion again. There were, is what he should have said.

00:09:00.740 What were those circumstances? And then he gives it up that Joe Biden would have been reelected

00:09:05.240 president. What would the bonus have been? I believe it would have been 4 million. In addition

00:09:11.340 to the 4 million you already paid, yes, they got him. They got him in the end after considerable

00:09:16.580 wiggling. This guy, in my opinion, is a dishonest hack. That's what we're witnessing there. Dishonest 0.95

00:09:23.840 hackery meant to cover up abject greed and a loathing for the United States of America.

00:09:30.280 This is the opposite of patriotism, of duty, of love of country. What you loved was the almighty

00:09:38.800 dollar, sir. That's obvious. In this same interview, Donilon defended Biden's fitness for office

00:09:46.480 because, sure, of course, they all had to. We've talked about Mike Donilon on the show before. You

00:09:51.200 may remember when Tapper came on, he was part of President Biden's inner circle known as the

00:09:56.880 Politburo, a group of advisors that Mr. Biden always turned to. There was like a top three,

00:10:04.000 maybe four, who were like the inner circle who made the decisions with him. Bruce Reed,

00:10:09.380 Mike Donilon, Steve Ricchetti, and Ron Klain, who was his chief of staff for a while.

00:10:15.000 A person familiar with this internal dynamic told Jake Tapper for his book, quote,

00:10:19.020 five people were running the country and Joe Biden was at best a senior member of the board.

00:10:23.940 And it was revealed in Tapper's book that in 2019, then candidate Joe Biden once struggled to even

00:10:31.840 remember Donilon's name during a campaign event in Iowa. He just kept saying, you know, you know,

00:10:39.440 you know. These two have known each other since 1981. 81.

00:10:43.980 Okay, here now to react to this, plus a wild new Kareem Jean-Pierre interview are the fellas

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00:11:55.980 It's finally here. All right, let's get this party started. Megan Kelly live on tour across America.

00:12:03.920 I was like, we have to go. And then after what happened to Charlie, I'm like, we definitely have

00:12:07.820 to go. The best way to honor Charlie's legacy is to be out here, to be unafraid, to not back down.

00:12:14.600 Stand firmly. Do not waver on the truth. Next stop, White Plains, Jacksonville, Miami,

00:12:20.660 in Atlanta. So go get your tickets right now before they sell out. MeganKelley.com. Presented by

00:12:25.660 Why Refi and SiriusXM. Guys, welcome back. Hey, Megan. Great to be back. Good to see you.

00:12:35.220 It's great to see you too. And the news gods rained down upon us for your return to the show.

00:12:41.260 Do you believe what we just witnessed?

00:12:46.660 Listen, it's that kind of verbal dexterity and political acumen that you pay top dollar for in

00:12:54.580 the political consulting world. In defense of Tom Donlan, though, I will say that he has captured

00:12:59.900 Joe Biden's voice absolutely perfectly in that. It seemed like it was a one-to-one almost. But we

00:13:08.920 have a joke. We've been in political consulting and that kind of thing forever. We have a joke

00:13:13.140 internally here that there is no fiercer capitalist than a progressive Democrat in Washington, D.C.

00:13:20.020 They're going to get paid. One way or another, they're going to figure out how to get paid.

00:13:24.160 And this guy is a perfect encapsulation of that. It's all there, black and white. He was going to

00:13:32.520 make millions, millions of dollars if he could just get Bernie over the finish line. He did not

00:13:40.380 give two shits about what was going to happen to the rest of the country, because obviously they had 0.97

00:13:45.160 some woke progressives making policy decisions there, and they were all just perfectly fine with 0.98

00:13:49.620 that, presumably as long as he could keep his summer home. Yeah. And also how disingenuous, like

00:13:55.500 any political consultant could recite what their win bonuses in their sleep. They know how much money

00:14:00.900 they're getting paid. So for him to be like, oh, you know, try to like run out the clock to be

00:14:06.020 before he's like, yeah, it's $4 million. It's like $4 million, $4 million more on top of the $4

00:14:10.040 million you're already getting. He's like, yeah, you know, just another casual $4 million. This

00:14:14.160 Biden Inc., we toss $4 million around like it's nothing. Well, and we're talking about a conflict

00:14:18.460 of interest here, but we're not talking about any candidate for any office. We're talking about the

00:14:22.400 current president of the United States at that moment, right? And that's what makes it so galling,

00:14:27.640 Megan, is like, yeah, this guy, he was, he's standing to gain another $4 million if a candidate

00:14:33.640 won an election, but he was also part of this farce pretending that this guy could still do the job

00:14:38.720 in the Oval Office. And that is the real import, I think, of this entire investigation is figuring

00:14:44.540 out like, are these people committing treason? It feels like treason to me. Yeah. Yes. It feels like

00:14:51.100 it. It feels like an utter betrayal of their patriotic duty and their oath of office in order to

00:14:55.960 lie in their own pockets. That's, let me tell you something though, because I'm sure it's not

00:14:59.820 unusual to have this sort of bonus structure built in for a campaign manager, like for, you know,

00:15:03.860 if you get me over the line, I'm going to, I'm going to give you some sort of a bonus. It was the way

00:15:07.660 he handled it that told us everything we needed to know. He was so dishonest in fessing up and tried

00:15:15.280 to dodge. Thank God the questioners followed up and understood they were asking a really simple

00:15:20.720 thing. Let me tell you though, as a lawyer, and again, I don't know if these are lawyers, I assume

00:15:24.680 they are, but at least they're skilled cross examiners. When somebody does this, every hair

00:15:29.580 on the back of your neck stands up and you're like, you know, with the claws out, like you're 0.99

00:15:36.060 fucking dead. Now you're dead. Now we're going to go. I mean, I've been in this position countless 1.00

00:15:41.240 times in depositions and cross examinations and sometimes even in interviews. It's the worst

00:15:46.540 possible thing to do. The worst possible way to handle it. The best way is to be like, yes. And I

00:15:51.640 was to receive another 4 million. If he made it across the line, that's it. But then you

00:15:55.820 got, they got their admission, which they were going to get no matter what, but you don't 0.99

00:16:00.020 look like a dishonest cretin. I can't believe how dumb this guy was. 1.00

00:16:06.260 Yeah. I mean, I think it kind of feels like he knows he should be ashamed, meaning he knows 1.00

00:16:12.220 he did something wrong. Meaning this business that he was engaged in, he knew it wasn't all

00:16:18.200 above board. If you're doing above board things like, yeah, my family went and we worked at

00:16:22.760 a soup kitchen last Thanksgiving. We fed the poor. I'm happy to tell people that because

00:16:26.300 you're proud of that. But the fact that this guy's trying to run the clock and he was like,

00:16:30.380 yeah, it was another 4 million. Like it's an admission of guilt that you did something you

00:16:35.120 know was wrong. When you're trying to hide it like that and you feel ashamed of it like

00:16:39.820 that, that's a good sign that you were doing some dishonest stuff.

00:16:42.580 The outcome of the campaign?

00:16:44.360 Yeah.

00:16:44.880 The outcome of the campaign? You're a professional political consultant.

00:16:47.720 You mean the outcome of the campaign?

00:16:49.080 I mean, I don't know. There's an election.

00:16:51.080 Yeah.

00:16:52.500 What is this thing of which you speak, the campaign and its outcome?

00:16:57.120 Perhaps you could elaborate.

00:16:57.960 I hope there wasn't a bonus for the debate performance.

00:17:01.060 It's amazing to me.

00:17:02.420 They talk about some reclamation.

00:17:03.080 Yeah.

00:17:04.040 There's so much lying in today's news cycle. Honestly, like that's, we kicked it off with

00:17:08.420 the big lie. That's as the Democrats like the turn of phrase, the big lie. But the whole

00:17:12.720 show is about lying liars who lie and they're all Democrats. Not that Republicans 0.98

00:17:17.700 never lie. They lie too. But there's a bunch of Democrats lying in the news today. Um, okay,

00:17:22.100 let's keep going because that's not the only way with it. Yeah. They get away. They do it

00:17:27.100 in secret. They get away with it. That's true. That's right. Ashbrook, because the press almost

00:17:30.980 never presses them. Right. It's like, even here, we, we needed Republicans on the house

00:17:34.440 oversight committee to get this admission, you know, like Mike Donilon, who got this admission

00:17:39.020 from him? Like what presser, what member of the press ever got it? Okay.

00:17:42.560 That's also, can I, can I just interject on one thing before you transition? 8M is a big

00:17:47.320 number. Like, I don't want your audience to think that that is what campaign managers

00:17:52.960 are paid to run political campaigns. That is insane. When we used to run political campaigns,

00:17:59.740 you had a very finite amount of cash that you were able to raise through hard dollar limits

00:18:04.420 and whatnot. And you cared so deeply about winning and losing, which is why you got involved

00:18:08.760 in the first place that you tried to keep your own overhead as low as possible in order

00:18:14.420 to maximize resources for TV ads, for field work, for all the things that you need to do

00:18:20.040 during the course of the campaign. For you, for someone to just say like, I'm going to

00:18:23.620 take 8M off the top of that. And what is going to be a nip and tuck race is wild.

00:18:29.480 It's an insane number. I remember like, isn't, isn't that donor money?

00:18:33.280 Yes. And that's like, you know, when they ask donors to be like, Hey, can you chip in five

00:18:37.080 bucks, 20 bucks, those small dollar donors, all those $20 and $5 donations are getting rolled up

00:18:42.840 into 8 million to go into Donalyn's pocket. Like that's how greedy this guy is. That is

00:18:47.260 absolutely not a normal amount to be paid. Nothing to blow.

00:18:50.120 Yeah. In Major League Baseball, there's a lot of talk about a salary cap. And so I wonder if in

00:18:54.540 Democrat politics, maybe some of the donors might be considering coming together and instituting

00:18:58.980 salary cap on Democrat campaign consults.

00:19:02.080 Think about, honestly, I feel sorry for the Democrats. I actually feel sorry for these Democrat

00:19:05.760 donors. Not only were they being set up to fail with Biden and this guy, but then what did they

00:19:10.440 get to replace him? Somebody who spent more than a billion dollars in 107 days and, and blew out so

00:19:17.460 much of the dough that the DNC is now still paying back her debt. We just got news last week. They

00:19:21.900 had to cover an additional $1.6 million of her debt. She went over budget over her billion dollar 0.95

00:19:27.580 spend. She actually managed to spend beyond her means. And they're still trying to clean it up. 0.84

00:19:31.200 And if I were a Democrat, I'd never get another penny.

00:19:33.820 Real quick is this thing, this, this money scheme is the entire explanation for the entire left.

00:19:40.600 Beyonce came and got paid off that. Oprah came and got paid off that. You think Hollywood is

00:19:45.200 supporting these socialists for their health? There's money for everybody in this game.

00:19:49.880 The Oprah thing was such a grift. I've, I said it at the time we talked about it. When you are a

00:19:56.400 journalist, you don't get paid by the campaign for anything. You don't take one cent from the

00:20:04.100 campaign or you've sold your soul. You don't say I'll do a town hall with you, but you have to pay

00:20:11.440 for the big round theater with the fancy monitors everywhere. So I can beam in Republicans for Kamala. 0.98

00:20:19.020 You say, I will be in charge of the set and the production, and I will make it as fancy or not

00:20:25.520 as I want. And all of that will come out of my, the journalist's budget. Oprah tried to, you know,

00:20:32.660 scoff this off as like, Oh, what do you mean? It was like a million dollars for my, for the

00:20:35.960 production. No, that's not normal. You know it. You're corrupt too. Yeah, totally. But here's the

00:20:42.600 thing. You talked about feeling bad for democratic donors. They'll never know, Megan. They'll never

00:20:48.580 know. They are sitting there listening to MSNBC prime time or all of the cheerleaders in the left

00:20:55.640 that have made them sort of agnostic to anything outside of this far left preaching. They'll never

00:21:01.260 know about this clip. They'll never know that, that the whole American democracy, the democratic

00:21:06.840 party, the nomination, all of it was for the low, low price of $8 million. They'll never know.

00:21:12.100 You're right. This is not the lead on MSNBC, uh, today or on any left wing podcast. I look forward

00:21:18.700 to the in-depth, the daily podcast on this. I'll wait. Um, okay. There's so many things we've got

00:21:26.120 to get to. So I'm, I'm forging forward the Kareem Jean-Pierre interview. Okay. Um, there is,

00:21:32.780 she sat down with the New Yorker and the reporter, Isaac Chodroner. I don't know him. Chodroner.

00:21:41.020 Maybe I should know him. Um, I think I want to know him after I read this interview. It's amazing.

00:21:46.200 And he did the very simple thing. That is all you need to do when sitting across from a dumb liar, 1.00

00:21:53.400 like Kareem Jean-Pierre, which is just ask the most basic, simple questions. Just, I mean, 0.99

00:21:59.000 it was literally like, what does that mean? I still don't understand. Could you please explain?

00:22:06.340 Could you elaborate? That's literally all he did for page after page and just hoisted her on her

00:22:11.880 own petard. It was a thing of beauty. We've got to go through it. There'll be some dramatic

00:22:16.560 reenactments here, but this is a beauty. I mean, it's to the point where even the left

00:22:21.360 is acknowledging this is the end of her career. Like the press tour has not been going well at all.

00:22:27.560 No, no. And then this is the final nail in the coffin. So he starts, you know, he sets it up and

00:22:36.520 talks about she left the party because the party didn't stand by Joe Biden. I guess that's why she

00:22:42.040 wants to become an independent now, but unclear. Okay. So here's a question. You feel like you had

00:22:47.700 to leave the democratic party because of the way it treated Joe Biden. How did it treat Joe Biden?

00:22:51.660 This is like, truly, this is like you're deposing a four-year-old. How did it do that?

00:22:57.500 That's right. It's like, make it as simple as possible. Come on, Corrine, even you can do it.

00:23:03.340 Now, remember this opening line she gives, I call it a betrayal. I, I call it, that's my special thing

00:23:10.600 that it's a betrayal. She says, okay. I'm going to stitch together these answers because they're

00:23:15.600 very long, but I've, I've highlighted the relevant parts. Um, and by the way, I'm doing her a favor

00:23:20.240 because I'm going to make her sound more lucid and cogent and following a thread than she is

00:23:24.660 because she managers all over the hell and gone. You're like, get back here to first base. She's 1.00

00:23:28.220 out in left field. Come back. The ball is here. So I'm going to condense it. She says, I was the

00:23:35.160 person who was standing on that podium behind that lectern, having to take in all the hard questions

00:23:39.060 on this, rightfully so. And I was watching what democratic leadership was doing. It was an all

00:23:44.740 out full on campaign to embarrass him, to push him out. And I thought to myself, this man is one of

00:23:49.940 the most decent people that I know. And objectively, objectively, it was a good presidency. It was a

00:23:57.480 good presidency. Some have even said some, some have even said he did more in one term than most

00:24:04.460 presidents do in two. So I just didn't understand. Yeah. Many, many people just didn't understand

00:24:10.680 why this was happening. So he says, you said that the party was trying to undermine Biden.

00:24:16.960 What do you think they were doing and why? Well, I just laid it out. I just said there was an obvious

00:24:23.620 campaign. You just had to watch. Sure. But why were they doing that? Because they believed he needed

00:24:29.900 to step aside. This is very layered, very layered, right? There's a period of time layered that I

00:24:36.800 questioned what was happening and how do we treat our own? How do we treat people who are decent people?

00:24:42.720 And then you also have to think about, here we go, folks, how I'm thinking about this as a

00:24:50.120 insert. Here we go. What is Karine Jean-Pierre, everyone?

00:24:55.720 Black queer woman. Black queer woman. 0.99

00:24:59.460 There's the resume. 0.97

00:25:01.060 To the gentleman in the hat. You have to think about how I'm thinking about this as a black woman who is

00:25:05.980 part of the LGBTQ community as well. And living in this time where I also don't think Democrats right

00:25:11.800 now, Democrat leadership is protecting vulnerable people in the way that it shows. She didn't get 0.89

00:25:19.300 enough protection. And Biden, I guess, here is the vulnerable person, which is true. But that's the

00:25:28.180 whole point. That's why he needed to go. He had moved from being firm to infirm and needed to be wheeled

00:25:34.820 right out of the Oval Office. So now Isaac says, sorry, I'm not trying to be dense.

00:25:44.320 I'm a little unclear about what this has to do with Democratic leaders and many Democrats in the

00:25:49.760 country thinking Joe Biden was going to lose to Trump, which was what the polls all showed and

00:25:54.020 therefore thinking that he should be replaced. OK, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

00:25:58.040 Hold on. Hold on a second. She's she does this like when she's lost, like, hold on.

00:26:05.840 Just hold on. She's talking to herself.

00:26:09.660 She does the Alex Trebek. What is a black queer woman? 1.00

00:26:14.880 It's supposed to be the out on this. 0.93

00:26:18.040 Nobody knows anything, she says. Again, she's talking to herself.

00:26:21.680 Nobody knows what would have happened. She goes on. Millions of people who showed up in 2020 didn't

00:26:25.720 show up in 2024. We can't forget that there was an incumbency issue as well. This is real.

00:26:30.300 There are like several G10 countries with incumbents who did not get reelected. There

00:26:35.320 was an incumbency issue as well. And then Isaac speaks for us all. I'm not sure what you're saying.

00:26:42.100 Yeah. OK, so, Megan, Megan, this is my favorite exchange here at the end of that answer that KJP gives.

00:26:49.680 Again, this is a professional communications expert, somebody who is at the lectern every day

00:26:56.680 of the Biden administration. And she has this whole run up about how Biden was still qualified,

00:27:02.720 should have been the candidate. And then she proceeds to undermine her entire argument by 1.00

00:27:07.320 saying, you know, other G12, you know, leaders lost because of their incumbency. And it's like,

00:27:12.720 but what is the point you're trying to make? It makes no sense.

00:27:16.400 So he was going to lose. That's the point. He was going to lose,

00:27:20.800 which is why the Democrats wanted him out. Could have been for incumbency,

00:27:24.400 could have been for frailty, but they all thought he was going to lose.

00:27:26.920 OK, I'm not sure what you're saying. And then here we go. No, no, no, no, no. Wait a minute.

00:27:34.000 Wait a minute. Amazing. She's not used to it spinning out of control, right? She's like, 0.96

00:27:40.540 I am usually in control at the lectern and I can control my inanity. And there's only so much

00:27:45.480 cross-examination I'm subjected to. OK, you're saying that this was their thinking,

00:27:49.700 that they were kind of predicting, but nobody knew what was going to happen. No one knew that

00:27:52.820 Joe Biden was going to win in 2020 and no one knew it was going to happen in 2024.

00:27:57.720 People believed in their hearts that Kamala was going to win. They believed it. They saw the polling

00:28:02.940 and they thought she was going to win looking at the polling. Nobody knew anything. I'm only

00:28:08.120 bringing up the polls because you brought up the polls to me.

00:28:11.140 What? OK, no, no one knows. Literally, nobody knows. Then Isaac says,

00:28:17.080 you said you were speaking as a black woman who's part of the LGBTQ community. And I think people

00:28:24.100 were very I'm talking about in this moment, too. I do not feel seen. I have not been seen in the party

00:28:32.040 because they are throwing the LGBTQs under the bus. Really? 0.99

00:28:37.140 Because of Joe Biden? Yeah. They're not fighting enough for migrants and immigrants. You have to 1.00

00:28:43.400 be a big tent party. You have to fight for everyone. Back to Isaac. I'm just still trying

00:28:49.100 to understand. I just this I've never heard this part of the interview. She's saying I'm not being

00:28:56.460 seen. She's literally on camera talking about a book that she wrote titled Independent. She's

00:29:02.520 different from the Democrat. You don't understand, dude. So she explains to him that she's a black 0.88

00:29:07.620 queer woman. Yeah, she pushed the button. Among their superpowers is invisibility. So she can't be 1.00

00:29:12.180 seen at times. Yes. And as soon as you say that, he's supposed to get down on his knees. That's it.

00:29:18.200 All tough questionings stops. And you're supposed to genuflect because she said the magic words.

00:29:24.200 This has been life for her in her, and I quote, chocolate skin.

00:29:28.160 And this is a Korean jumpy. Hand to God. Hand to God. My audience is my witness. That's another 1.00

00:29:34.740 KJP quote from her tour. Okay. This is so much better than the clips that people put out on

00:29:39.920 Twitter, Megan. This is golden content and only brought to you on the Megan Kelly show.

00:29:45.100 Smog often talks about his mocha. Yes. I feel unseen in my mocha skin.

00:29:50.420 I'm Vanilla. I'm Madagascar Vanilla, as the folks at Cowboy Colostrum say. Okay. So he's like,

00:30:00.720 it's a thing. It's an actual product. Okay. Okay. Oh, man.

00:30:07.260 They made the vanilla sound more exotic by putting the word Madagascar in front of it.

00:30:12.740 Okay. Here we go. He's like, I'm still trying to understand. He goes through a windup and he says,

00:30:26.040 you're talking about Biden like loyalty was owed to him. Isn't loyalty owed to the country? No,

00:30:33.660 that's not what I'm saying. I'm not talking about that. I'm saying this is not how you treat somebody.

00:30:39.260 So now she says, I'm not talking about loyalty. I refer you back to the part I told you to remember

00:30:45.760 the very first answer she gave. I call it a betrayal. It's a betrayal. And then he says,

00:30:51.980 you're talking about Biden like loyalty was owed to him. No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:30:57.340 I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about loyalty. I'm saying this is not how you treat

00:31:01.640 somebody. Poor Isaac is holding on by his fingernails. And then he says,

00:31:06.640 is this a matter of how you treat someone or a matter of putting the country first?

00:31:12.300 He's keeping it at the third grade level so she can follow. Poor guy's thinking he's actually going

00:31:17.620 to get a clear answer at some point. Then here she goes, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a

00:31:23.180 minute. Wait, wait, wait. This is her trick, right? This is like, this is her thing. Wait,

00:31:28.460 treating somebody with dignity is not the same as loyalty. What? You're the one who said it was a

00:31:34.380 betrayal. I mean, the way he was treated, I had never, if you had seen something like that in

00:31:40.460 the democratic party, please, please, please point it out. So what was an example of the way he was

00:31:45.560 treated? It was nasty articles that were coming out daily. Go back and see for yourself. You're

00:31:49.800 writing the articles, right? You should go back and see for yourself. It was a campaign. It was even

00:31:54.180 reported that it was a campaign. So you think asking him to step aside was okay, but there shouldn't

00:32:00.980 have been nasty articles. He's trying. Well, here's the thing. This is, let's pause on this

00:32:07.820 for a second because Ashbrook's got a great bit on this and it's why she knows it came from within.

00:32:13.740 There was nasty articles or whatnot because nasty articles about a Democrat, particularly a Democrat

00:32:19.280 who's president of the United States do not exist unless they come from other Democrats, right?

00:32:23.540 Exactly right. It's, it's axiomatic in the legacy media. They only attack a Democrat when a second

00:32:29.320 Democrat stands to benefit. Yep. Yep. So true. Katie Porter. So she's done the math on that part. 0.99

00:32:35.920 That's Katie Porter. That's why she got that as those tough questions by that CBS gal, 1.00

00:32:39.900 because it's an open primary, lots of other Democrats. Let's get rid of her now if she's 1.00

00:32:43.520 weak. That's the only time they ever face the questions. Okay. So she's, he's like, okay, 0.87

00:32:50.480 so you're saying asking him to step aside was okay, but there shouldn't have been nasty articles.

00:32:56.140 Look, what I'm saying is it shouldn't have happened that way. Then he says, but it should

00:33:02.780 have happened or it shouldn't have happened. He's truly, he's like, it's good. And my dog

00:33:08.620 Strudwick could follow this. She says, wait, can you predict what she says now? She's really,

00:33:13.400 she's resorting to two things, black and queer. And what's her other favorite thing to do at the 0.61

00:33:17.220 beginning of these answers? No, no, no. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

00:33:23.360 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't think it should have

00:33:28.960 happened. Uh, then she blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I believe we should have fought to make sure

00:33:33.280 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won. That's what I believed. Then he says, okay, polling was pretty

00:33:38.860 accurate, blah, blah, blah. He says, so you have no concern even to this day that Joe Biden could

00:33:43.480 serve as president through January, 2029. I did not see anything that would have given me

00:33:49.300 concern, but you watched TV like the rest of us, right? And then she says this, I always couch it

00:34:00.420 with this. Of course he was older and I love the filler. Like you'll have to excuse my lie. I'm about

00:34:07.520 to tell you because I always deliver this lie. It's my chosen lie. I have to, I have to buy time

00:34:13.480 to think of what the lie actually is. So let me preface it with entire prefix where I'm still

00:34:18.640 thinking. Totally Holmes. I've got 10 filler words that will cue me to deliver my favorite lie. And

00:34:25.160 here now here I will. Of course he was aging. He mentioned it. He talked about not speaking as well

00:34:30.240 as he used to not walking as well as he used to. I saw him every single day at his white house as his

00:34:34.760 white house press secretary. And he was someone that was engaged on top of policy,

00:34:39.620 challenging his staff. I mean, challenging Kareem Jabeer, that I believe. Then he says

00:34:45.080 one could conceivably think that he could do the job through January, 2025, meaning the end of his

00:34:52.940 first term, but that it was not wise to think he could do the job through January, 2029, right?

00:34:59.760 It's not my place to say. Oh my God. It was her place to say she was literally the spokesperson for

00:35:08.620 that thing. Incredible. Right. She just wrote a whole book. Yeah. Talking about how he got the

00:35:14.700 short shift because he wasn't the, he wasn't the candidate. Now it's not my place to say whether he

00:35:19.520 could do the job. Okay. One thing that conversation, the thing that is most wild about all of this,

00:35:24.500 just to take it back to the highest level is the book is called independent and she is, she is Joe

00:35:32.320 Biden's most loyal soldier. It makes no sense. Nothing independent about any of it. I don't want

00:35:39.120 it to stop. It's not my place to say. I just don't want it to stop. She's, oh, and it's, then it reads

00:35:42.900 inside a broken white house. And now she said twice in her book tour that she's talking about the

00:35:48.220 Trump white house. Oh boy. She's talking about inside the Trump white house, which like everything

00:35:59.020 around this woman makes no sense at all. This is amazing. She's not talking about that.

00:36:06.760 Did this, did the book publishers hate her to let this get out there? Were they like,

00:36:10.760 we want everyone to make fun of you forever. I have a feeling that they, they had some kind

00:36:14.600 of a signing bonus and they're like, Hey dude, let's see what happens. Yeah. Yeah.

00:36:18.180 They're another Mike Donald. They're like, there's a reason people rubberneck, there's a reason people

00:36:24.780 rubberneck at car crashes, you know? I mean, it's that whole, it's that whole saying of, um, you know,

00:36:31.320 better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and, you know, move all doubt. You know, 0.97

00:36:36.460 I mean, that's, that's her entire problem. Yeah. Well, who, who are we getting? All five of us are

00:36:41.300 going out to buy this book today. I mean, that's obvious. Um, okay. So we're, we're stuck on it's,

00:36:46.720 it's not my place to say whether he could have actually done the job for a second term. And then

00:36:52.120 here goes, Isaac, what do you mean? It's not your place. And then gentlemen, what does she say next?

00:37:01.140 I'll give you a guess. No, no, no, wait.

00:37:06.620 This is so unreal. Wait, wait, wait. I'm answering the question. I did not see anything

00:37:17.080 that would cause me concern. That is my answer. Except the debate and the other things that

00:37:22.980 everyone saw says Isaac, right? Like he's on it. Like you saw the damn debate. You saw him falling

00:37:29.440 down. You saw him tripping. You saw him losing his train of thought. You saw him saying dead people

00:37:34.140 were alive. That's me. He didn't ask her that way. He kept it simple for Strudwick,

00:37:37.780 except the debate and the other things that everyone saw. What I'm saying to you is the

00:37:44.020 debate for me was one time. I had never seen him like that before. Okay. We go on. Then he says,

00:37:51.120 I'm just a little surprised that you don't see what so many people, including so many Democrats

00:37:57.960 saw. I'm not the only person who feels this. I'm just the one speaking very loudly. I'm the person

00:38:03.760 who's saying the quiet thing out loud. What? What's the quiet thing out? That's just a cliche

00:38:09.860 that doesn't fit in this context. That's amazing. Like doesn't fit. This is such a damning indictment

00:38:18.340 on DEI. Like there is no greater example of what happens. Like it is truly the like soft bigotry of

00:38:24.940 low expectations. This woman has no business writing a book, let alone being the spokesperson for the 1.00

00:38:32.000 president of the United States of America. This is what happens. And then she always falls back on

00:38:37.740 as an unseen queer black woman, LGBTQ. We have come to the end of an era where people have opened up 0.57

00:38:46.320 their eyes and realized this is what you get. She can't answer a question. She can't write a book. 1.00

00:38:51.640 She can't be the spokesperson for the president of the United States.

00:38:54.020 But it's also the training. It's the training ground of Democrat communicators in that I am certain

00:38:59.860 this is an out-of-body experience for her because for the first time in her life she said I think

00:39:05.480 is that an MSNBC interview? No, it's New York Mag. No, it's with the New Yorker.

00:39:10.480 The New Yorker. Yeah, New Yorker. Okay. Well, same difference. Same difference. But like the point

00:39:14.720 is is that somebody who is a New Yorker columnist is asking her real questions. She's like,

00:39:19.540 you don't understand. That's not your job. I told you I was a black queer woman. Why are we still

00:39:24.720 into this? You don't appear to be down on your knees. Yeah. I mean, this is this is what they are

00:39:31.080 used to. This is just the way a corporate media has worked for generations of Democrats. Right. And it

00:39:39.900 makes Democrats soft. They learn all the wrong lessons. They feel like the media is actually

00:39:45.020 their press office. And if you talk to reporters and these guys make fun of me because I have

00:39:50.160 journal buddies. But what the journal buddies all tell me is that if you if when you take a call

00:39:55.580 from one of these Democrat press secretaries, the expectation is that you will write the story the

00:40:01.320 exact way they want it. And if they don't like the the portion of the speech that you pull out and put

00:40:07.520 into the article that their boss said, if their boss gets mad at them, they get mad at the reporter

00:40:12.780 because the expectation is this story must look like a press release or you're against our mission.

00:40:18.140 You know, that's that's the way they think. It's legitimately the way I think it makes them.

00:40:23.380 We can see what happened here. She got the job totally because of DEI, obviously, then touted 1.00

00:40:30.280 the DEI qualities the entire time from the lectern, then read 90 percent of the answers she ever gave

00:40:35.900 the press corps at the press briefings and and really did not sit for interviews as an independent

00:40:43.560 person. She really gave only a couple like Vogue gave her the Vogue treatment. They don't ask tough 0.97

00:40:49.240 questions, especially not of a Democrat like Kareem Jean-Pierre. So like she never actually had

00:40:53.940 ironically, you know, given the position she had, she actually really never had to answer questions

00:40:59.240 about what she thought. She really just had to struggle to get on the next like safe space about

00:41:04.920 what Biden's policies were, et cetera. And those were written out for her in her little briefing

00:41:10.980 memo. So now some moronic publisher was like, she'll be great. The press door, everyone's going 0.97

00:41:17.600 to book her. She's used to talking to the media and that you have to imagine them all dying on the

00:41:24.060 inside as each one of these goes down. All right, let's keep going because there's still

00:41:27.560 wondrous stuff. OK, I'm I'm not the only one who feels this. I'm just I'm the person saying the

00:41:34.720 quiet thing out loud. Amazing. So brave. They're so brave. There's a silent minority of people out

00:41:42.020 there who feel that Biden was taken advantage of. And most people don't want to say it.

00:41:47.060 $8 million, by the way, the silent, the silent. Yeah, there's an $8 million paycheck attached to

00:41:54.340 that opinion, who feel that Biden was taken advantage of. And most people don't want to say

00:41:59.180 it. Is that what you mean? Let let me just say this is my experience, my experience that I'm

00:42:06.500 speaking to and what I saw. I just want to be very, very clear on average. I just want to be clear

00:42:12.320 on average, not from one interview, not from one debate. On average, on average, I have heard from

00:42:19.200 many, many, many people, many people. You just made fun of this. She did it. Many,

00:42:24.660 many people who are disappointed by the reaction of the Democratic Party. I have I have. And these

00:42:30.840 are citizens. These are people who vote. Some of our best friends are disappointed in the same way

00:42:40.100 Karine Jean-Pierre was. OK, keep going. Was it a concern of yours that Biden was not getting accurate

00:42:46.000 information about the state of the race? I was not involved in the campaign, blah, blah, blah.

00:42:49.800 He says one thing in your book I was not expecting was that after Harris took over, you say you thought

00:42:54.100 it was, quote, an insult to her that people wanted an open convention. Can you talk about that? Yeah.

00:43:00.880 I mean, look, look, you have to understand. I'm speaking also as a queer woman. Yeah. Ding, 1.00

00:43:10.100 ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Black woman. What is a black queer woman? And what I experienced myself 1.00

00:43:15.960 as being a first. This is not just me. There are many black women who feel this way. We are the

00:43:22.440 backbone of the party. We are on the front lines. And when it comes time to elevate us or hear us

00:43:27.880 acknowledge our voice, we are largely ignored. It's almost like they didn't want her. And so you

00:43:35.000 have to understand the lens that I see that with. Right. Funny. Funny that that doesn't translate

00:43:41.260 to Winsome Sears. I feel that very viscerally, as do many in the black community and among black 0.95

00:43:48.820 women. Basically, what she's saying is of which you are not a part, Isaac. So stop trying to shame

00:43:55.580 me, whitey, because you don't understand the black woman experience. Everything I've said is understood 0.97

00:44:00.780 by black people, just not you. And that is just again, this goes back to the DEI thing. This is

00:44:07.100 the weirdest thing that's been happened. And also for for for liberal white people, this like strange

00:44:13.460 thing of believing that just because someone's a minority, they have some kind of like magical

00:44:18.100 ability in some way that only they can discuss among each other. Guess what? All humans have brains.

00:44:23.920 And and to be like, you don't understand because I have a lived experience as a black queer woman. 0.86

00:44:29.020 You're also a person. You're also an American. Yeah. So so so for them to have run this game for so

00:44:37.480 long where you can become the spokesperson for the president of the United States, not on

00:44:42.100 qualifications, but on immutable characteristics that first off, that just spits on everything

00:44:47.080 Martin Luther King Jr. fought for. It's not the content of her character that got her there.

00:44:51.600 It's she checked the right boxes and the party believes. She knows it. Yeah, she's she's well aware.

00:44:56.900 All right. Wait, let's let me keep going. There's just some more goodness coming our way.

00:44:59.720 Then he says, well, one reason some people thought Harris should not be the nominee is that they did

00:45:04.580 not think she could win, which is why I was surprised to read in your book a little later

00:45:10.100 on that, quote, the truth was I never really believed Harris could win because she's just gone

00:45:17.780 on about how like it's a black thing. They didn't want Harris. They wanted an open convention because

00:45:22.860 they hate black people. And he's like, you write in your book, you didn't think she could win. 0.99

00:45:27.880 This is amazing. That's why I'm a little confused when you say it was an insult to try to get her

00:45:34.140 off the ticket. You speak for us all, Isaac. And then she goes, OK, now this I don't know what

00:45:39.380 happens here. OK, but two things should be true. Right. She doesn't even have the saying. Right.

00:45:46.100 Two things should be it. It's good to see two things should be true. Right. The thing that I say

00:45:53.340 the second time actually proves the thing that I said the first time. Right. What the hell?

00:46:00.600 Because it's a feeling that we have. It's a feeling that we have. OK, the reason I felt it is because of 0.76

00:46:09.040 how we are treated as. There it is. Black women. Black women. We are not elevated. We're not

00:46:17.320 protected. We're not taken seriously. She was the vice president for heaven's sake. But the reality of

00:46:23.680 it is being a black woman, being black and being a woman, being a woman and being black. She didn't 1.00

00:46:29.820 add that last one. It's just tough. It's hard. It makes it harder. And she ran a fantastic campaign, 0.92

00:46:36.040 but it wasn't good enough for some people. That is heartbreaking. Shouldn't you extend the same

00:46:41.160 generosity to other people who didn't think she could win or that she was the best candidate?

00:46:46.640 This is a book about my experience.

00:46:49.060 Oh, my. Me.

00:46:50.740 That is so awesome.

00:46:51.940 It's a book about. Hold on. Megan, Megan.

00:46:54.160 Me.

00:46:56.240 Me. OK. My experience. It's also attacking people with other opinions, says Isaac. Yeah,

00:47:04.980 but I have every right to talk about my experience and my perspective, and that's not taking away

00:47:09.020 from others. OK, now I'm going to finish that. Wait, hold on. Which is why you all should have

00:47:14.140 voted for a 175-year-old white man with a history of segregating school buses and crime bills in the

00:47:20.500 early 1990s. That's right. That would have been the non-racist thing to do. That's true. That was the

00:47:26.620 anti-racist move. So what I was confused by was you saying that you did not think Harris could win,

00:47:33.500 but then you attack other people who didn't seem to think Harris could win by saying they were

00:47:38.300 insulting her. Yes. Yes. She acknowledges that. Yes. Well, again, I wish you could walk in my body

00:47:47.860 and live my life. And then I think you could understand what I'm saying. I really do,

00:47:53.560 because I think any other black woman would understand what I am saying. What it truly is,

00:47:58.660 is that it wasn't just an open primary or a brokered convention. There was disrespect to her 1.00

00:48:03.020 as well. It was discounting her and her position and who she was. That's what I, that's what it felt

00:48:08.400 like. This is a very unique thing that I don't think anyone would understand unless you walked

00:48:12.860 in our bodies and lived our lives. My feeling was not about her not being qualified. It was about

00:48:19.300 people not being able to see past her being black and a woman. It's not that confusing for us because

00:48:27.500 we live this life day in and day out. She still hasn't answered the question. And he says,

00:48:34.240 sometimes I worry about losing sight of the fact that we're dealing with a presidential election here

00:48:39.720 and the feelings of Joe Biden are less important than the fate of the country.

00:48:44.480 You're telling me about the feelings of Joe Biden, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But Joe Biden is out

00:48:52.760 of the picture. He's out of the picture. What? And then he says, yeah, he sure is.

00:49:01.640 She says he's out of the picture now and we lost. And he says, this is what you wrote your book about.

00:49:09.560 I am not bringing this up randomly. No, I know. But you just said that to me, right? Right. So I'm

00:49:15.720 just responding to it. He's out of the picture. He stepped down. He's out of the picture. We lost.

00:49:20.880 The book for me is really about the moment that we're in. When I talk about the broken White House

00:49:25.580 in the subtitle, I'm talking about the Trump White House, the Trump White House. What are the

00:49:32.200 Democratic leadership actually doing to beat back and fight back? I'm not here to answer for the

00:49:37.400 Democrat leadership. You've been answering for the Democratic leadership. You were giving me their

00:49:42.760 answers. I didn't talk to anyone in Democratic leadership. I was just trying to remember how

00:49:48.460 I and others felt watching Biden in those weeks, that it felt like he was too old to be president

00:49:52.460 for another four years and too old to win. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. That's your

00:49:57.400 experience. That's the experience you had. End of interview. Wow. Just a masterpiece.

00:50:06.120 Yeah. Can I say my favorite part, though? She was like, yes, you don't understand. We don't

00:50:12.060 support black women enough. And he's like, so you supported Kamala Harris being chosen over Biden.

00:50:16.460 No. You don't understand my lived experience as a black queer woman, which is why I supported

00:50:22.140 Kamala, who decided that she couldn't put Pete Buttigieg on the question on the ticket because 0.93

00:50:27.580 he was gay. He's gay. That's right. You can't have a gay. Wow. A black and a woman and a gay. 1.00

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00:58:28.020 And let's get on with the show before we leave Korean Jean Pierre. I just did want to get this

00:58:32.800 in. She had another negative experience because of Ashbrook's rule about how, you know, now that

00:58:37.420 you're no longer useful to us, we're, we're not interested in protecting you. And she went over

00:58:41.960 to MSNBC where they have hired at least Jordan, who is, she's got a background and on more on the 0.98

00:58:48.240 right. It's kind of an interesting hire. And she did ask KJP about how she savaged special counsel,

00:58:55.040 Robert Herr, who did the special counsel report on Joe Biden's, uh, having classified documents at

00:59:00.400 home. He was the one with, who said, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. So I can't indict

00:59:05.120 and, you know, you'd think the Democrats would have taken that as the Christmas gift. It was,

00:59:09.160 but no, she savaged him from the white house podium, went after him. And at least Jordan wanted

00:59:13.420 to know if she had any thoughts on how wrong that was given what's happened. Here's how that went.

00:59:19.220 And listen to the whole thing. Stop 20. You said that his commentary was gratuitous,

00:59:25.140 that it was unacceptable and it didn't live in reality. Robert Herr was unemployable. Have you

00:59:30.300 apologized to Robert Herr? I mean, look, what I can say to you is I've seen the, I saw the president

00:59:38.560 every single day. Have you gone back to someone who, he was, he was pretty sharp comments about,

00:59:45.120 and we all saw a different reality in your personal capacity. What I'm saying is, is my reality was

00:59:50.540 this. My reality was somebody that I saw every single day who was sharp. Do you have any regrets

00:59:55.960 at all for anything that you said while you were speaking on behalf of this administration? I woke up

00:59:59.940 every day, very proud to be the white house press secretary. I woke up every day as a, as a black

01:00:08.020 woman who is queer, who had never, no one had ever seen someone like me at that podium standing behind

01:00:14.340 that lectern. It was an honor and a privilege to have that job. Can you guys tell me, you guys tell

01:00:21.980 me as political, political operatives, isn't there some point at which somebody says to her,

01:00:26.640 stop saying that, stop saying that. Only if you care about them. And I don't think she's surrounded

01:00:34.520 by people who do. I think that's fair. I think if someone cared about her, they would have told her

01:00:39.360 years ago, you're not up for this. Why would you put yourself as the spokesperson? You're at the

01:00:45.260 pinnacle of your profession. You're representing the president of the United States. That's the most

01:00:49.420 powerful office you can have on the planet. If someone cared about her, they would have said, 0.64

01:00:54.220 you're not built for this. Isn't that sort of a microcosm of the entire problem with the Biden

01:00:59.480 presidency? Like you'd look at KJP. Dude, that's right. In, in no normal world where a person like

01:01:06.880 this end up with this book deal and do this media tour and beclown herself. It is a microcosm of the

01:01:14.100 Biden president. And I ain't over their heads from the, from the jump. I think a lot of it is just the

01:01:19.780 wound they have from Obama passing over. Yes, dude. Um, you're right. Biden. And so it created

01:01:26.900 this cloistered environment, this small, um, network of people who profited. Of course,

01:01:32.360 we've now learned to the tune of eight mil bone if they somehow got across the finish line,

01:01:37.640 but it created this insular and bunker bunker mentality within Biden world where they didn't

01:01:42.760 have inputs from the rest of the normal world. Yeah. And it led them to do a lot of really foolish

01:01:47.420 things and profoundly unqualified. Yeah. It was a wound and it was a chip on their shoulder 0.85

01:01:51.380 because this, the entire Biden team is like the Obama fifth and sixth stringers. These were the

01:01:56.120 like benchers of the benchers of the benchers. And so when Obama comes out and humiliates Joe

01:02:02.160 right in front of the white house where he says, it's going to be Hillary. It's not going to be this

01:02:05.720 dude. He's a bit old. We all know this. That's where it started. Yeah. Where like the people who

01:02:10.160 were around Biden, all the like super untalented Obama folks were like, okay, we got to get together.

01:02:15.400 And, and they basically treated that white house as like a get the money and run situation.

01:02:20.360 Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. I think the underlying motivation for an awful lot of these

01:02:23.720 people was not like, what can we do for this country? What can we do for the whole bit that

01:02:28.400 are voting for us that are hoping that they can have a better life as a result of our policies.

01:02:33.100 The underlying motivation is this is my one shot. I'm never going to get a shot like this because

01:02:37.540 we've had democratic administrations for eight long years that looked at me and thought I

01:02:41.760 wouldn't be able to do it. How do I settle a score? Yeah. So now I have a jump seat essentially

01:02:48.380 on this ride that is Joe Biden. And I'll be damned if I'm going to speak truth about what's going on

01:02:54.940 here because that's my ride. Bingo. Yeah. Well, I mean, honestly, like I'm thinking about it because

01:03:00.060 the overemphasis on identity has been going back a long way in the democratic party.

01:03:05.800 Yeah. What what what real qualifications did Barack Obama have to get the nomination and

01:03:12.260 ascend to the presidency? What he'd been a U.S. senator for like two years. Yeah. Prior to that,

01:03:16.580 a short stint in Illinois politics. He gave a good DNC speech. It was the keynote. It was the

01:03:22.640 keynote of the DNC. Yeah. That was it. And Obama was good at oratory. That was the one thing that

01:03:27.740 was real about him. He was good at oratory. He could deliver a speech. Now he's gotten kind of

01:03:31.860 grading. And drum striking weddings. You can't take that from the man. He has the high score.

01:03:36.060 Yeah. It's true. That's true. And then Michelle Obama, who was like elevated to being like the

01:03:41.160 be all end. Oh, my God, Michelle, like what she says is gospel. Why again? Because she had a short

01:03:45.360 stint as a lawyer at like a fine, but like not that great law firm in Chicago. Like, that's it. So

01:03:51.100 now she's like the mother of us all. Now we have to listen to Michelle Obama's every word. 0.97

01:03:55.080 Is her podcast still on the air? I think that got like five listeners. Is she still doing it or

01:04:00.380 she threw in the towel? Smug. It's on the air. It gets her clips. It get less than 2000. 0.99

01:04:05.260 Yeah. You know what I love about doing Megan's show is like Megan has the receipts. And when she's 0.99

01:04:12.020 like, not a great law firm in Chicago. It's fine. It was fine. But there were better. I'm just going

01:04:18.720 to say. And I worked in Chicago for five years as a lawyer. So here's Michelle Obama. This is why

01:04:25.000 she's on my mind. She's now, you know, remember just like literally 10 days ago, she was out there

01:04:30.080 complaining about how famous she is. And she's very annoyed at her fame. I mean, she, she hates 1.00

01:04:34.220 going into restaurants and people are always looking at her. So what do you do? You start a

01:04:37.660 podcast, a video, a YouTube show, and also debut a new book all about your quote. Look, it's about

01:04:44.360 her look and her amazing fashion sense. Yeah. Because she hates fame and apparently money too. 1.00

01:04:51.320 And tell me if you, yeah, it's called look Michelle Obama. By the way, if you take one look at Michelle

01:04:58.240 Obama on her actual podcast, she has the fashion sense of this pen. I mean, honestly, there's nothing

01:05:04.560 there. Whoever dressed her for that cover did a good job. When she was first lady, she had a couple 0.99

01:05:09.560 of moments, but she has a terrible sense of fashion when she's in a real, sorry, it's just true.

01:05:14.860 Most of the time she looks like she's wearing burlap. Um, so she gets out there, she's promoting 0.67

01:05:20.220 her new book, the look, and see if you can sense something familiar in this promo. Stop 15.

01:05:27.120 It's the look, my new book. It is here. I am so excited about this project. I can't wait to share

01:05:34.820 it with you all. This book is about so much more than the beautiful pictures. This book talks about

01:05:40.620 the importance of diversity and inclusion, um, and sharing a space. It's about person. I'm out. It's

01:05:47.340 about, um, how what we wear is an armor that suits us up and gets us ready to face the challenges of the

01:05:55.200 day. It feels like this is the thing that offends me so much about what we just watched, uh, from

01:06:04.180 Michelle Obama. And then also KJP's commentary about how she felt unseen as a black woman.

01:06:10.900 It feels like we're being gaslit. Yep. You know, as an elder millennial, you know, I remember a time

01:06:17.080 where Oprah was the most popular woman in all of America. And Beyonce is like the number one selling.

01:06:24.040 Yeah. Like, like I, I, I don't think black women are unseen in America. 1.00

01:06:28.640 Well, we grew up in an era where our heroes were all black men and women. They just were,

01:06:36.560 right? Michael Jordan. I mean, like all the athletes, all the singer, all the performer,

01:06:41.520 all the, all the heroes of my growing up were all black. And all of a sudden now we've entered a 0.81

01:06:49.260 stage where they have to like code speak about what it is that they are seeking to communicate.

01:06:56.140 And especially black women. I just don't, you don't hear black men doing this. I mean, 0.74

01:07:01.440 maybe there are occasionally, but it's mostly black women who are just dying to hit you with 1.00

01:07:08.300 their identity. Like I got multiple, what do they call it? Intersectional, right? You know, 0.98

01:07:11.980 if you can add in the queer for good measure, so much the better, but like obsessing around it. 0.93

01:07:15.680 Go ahead, Smug. I think that actually bothered a lot of black men who did notice that because you 1.00

01:07:20.180 saw in 2024, a lot of them then went and voted for Trump. I think Americans by and large are sick 0.99

01:07:26.780 of this. And especially when it comes to Michelle Obama, I don't think she gets enough 0.90

01:07:29.940 flack for when she had that line. She was like, every day I wake up in a house built by slaves. 0.80

01:07:35.360 It's like every day you wake up in the white house. That's the pinnacle of the planet. Yeah. 0.92

01:07:41.840 Congratulations. Now you get to have Netflix deals and book deals. And you get to talk about how

01:07:46.820 my book is about space and it's the look. It's like how much of this, like, uh, uh, you know,

01:07:55.240 progressive language is like, you know, those cardboard books for baby where it's like, baby

01:08:00.520 wakes up. You are in your space. You are a little baby. These like very simple sentences.

01:08:06.500 Like the way we speak to Karine Jean-Pierre.

01:08:08.400 Seriously. It's like the books they're reading to Joe Biden.

01:08:12.100 Of course she's got to tout the identity. It's just like the through line. All right. I'm going back

01:08:16.360 on the subject of lying liars who lie, uh, mostly Democrats. And that brings me to Zoran Mamdani 0.94

01:08:22.540 and the disgusting lie he appears to have told about his aunt. There's so many disgusting things 0.91

01:08:30.200 about this clip. That's kind of the least disgusting thing, but it is a lie. Here he is. Also part of 0.67

01:08:36.080 the lie was his fake crying. Where's the tear? Show me the tear. Any man who's actually crying 0.98

01:08:42.980 and like choking up, like can't get through the sentence would have an actual tear because like

01:08:48.780 it would have to be that level for him to actually be choked up and like stopping a speech. There's

01:08:53.520 not a tear. He's actually faking. He's acting and it's despicable. Here it is. Sot four.

01:09:00.160 I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York city.

01:09:02.820 See, he looks down. Can't see it. Don't look at his eyes.

01:09:10.360 I want to speak to the memory of my aunt.

01:09:16.740 Oh my God.

01:09:17.640 You can barely get it out.

01:09:18.560 Who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab.

01:09:23.520 She did not feel safe in her hijab. All right. It's, it's insane. Everybody wearing blue jeans 1.00

01:09:33.240 on the subway didn't feel safe after September 11th. There's nothing special about this Ugandan 1.00

01:09:38.500 who's running for mayor of New York. He's lying. Well, also like, there's no aunt. Okay. First of

01:09:44.980 all, there is no aunt. There's one actual aunt who is dead and she lives in a totally different

01:09:50.520 country. Then there was a cousin. There was a cousin who I guess now he's saying, oh,

01:09:55.220 he misidentified her as an aunt. And it's unclear whether she ever wore a hijab or rode the subway

01:09:59.980 at all. Um, but isn't the real issue here that if you are going to talk about nine 11,

01:10:06.760 you must start no matter who you are, but especially if you want to be the mayor of New York

01:10:13.700 with the nearly 3000 people, Americans who were killed by radical Islamic terrorists that day,

01:10:21.920 that's the issue. Zoran, not your fake invented auntie.

01:10:27.700 That's the thing is this is like the Norm MacDonald. He had that joke. Like, I hope ISIS never blows up

01:10:33.500 nuclear bomb within the United States. Imagine what would happen to the innocent radical Muslims. 1.00

01:10:37.020 Like that, this is for someone who's running to be mayor of New York city. And next year is going

01:10:43.540 to be the 25th anniversary of that attack. And all signs point towards it's going to be overseen by

01:10:49.480 Zoran Mamdani, someone who wanted to globalize the Intifada. I think New York is getting what it

01:10:54.640 deserves because this is what these voters have wanted. They wish the city to get worse. They're

01:10:58.700 going to get what they deserve. Last week showed up with the unindicted code conspirator,

01:11:02.340 the 1993 World Trade Center bomb. He's not actually unindicted code conspirator, but the guy did,

01:11:07.400 but the imam did testify for the blind shake at his terrorism trial. The guy bombed the First

01:11:14.680 World Trade Center. Andy McCarthy was the prosecutor. He wrote an article saying we didn't, we actually

01:11:18.840 weren't considering him an unindicted code conspirator, but he was totally supportive of

01:11:22.760 the people who bombed the World Trade Center. And Zoran Mamdani is all arms with him, buddy,

01:11:27.700 buddy, arms around each other, laughing just a couple of weeks ago, calling him a pillar of the

01:11:31.840 community. Another thing. So I saw a statistic where following the events of September 11th

01:11:37.980 across the United States and in New York City, they did polling. The approval rating for Muslim

01:11:43.040 Americans has gone up significantly among conservatives, among liberals across America

01:11:48.680 and in New York City. And all a result of that is you have these left-wing candidates running on how

01:11:54.300 everyone's mean to Muslims, everyone's mean to Muslims, everyone's mean to Muslims. 0.99

01:11:58.040 We welcome these people into our country with the promise that this is the land of opportunity, 0.85

01:12:04.180 join this nation, be a member of this society, and you can succeed. And what is his, ever since

01:12:11.320 he's come here, what has his stake been? This is a horrible nation and it treats me so badly.

01:12:15.680 Okay. So this is the most fascinating thing I think about, you know, radical leftism and radical Islam 0.63

01:12:21.240 and these democratic socialists in America is that you have a lot of these people who come to this

01:12:26.180 country and they blame America as being a country that's oppressive, broken, right? Settler 1.00

01:12:32.380 colonialism. Of course they choose to settle in America, right? And then in the United States, 0.64

01:12:38.180 they want to sit here and tell us how wrong we are and how much we have to change. That is sort of

01:12:42.520 the fascinating inversion of our values as Americans that some of these people do. And I mean,

01:12:48.140 it's, it's, it's Momdani's dad himself who is an anti-colonialist professor or whatever,

01:12:54.720 who gets paid lots of money to, to be a professor in American universities. It's not,

01:13:00.480 he's not back in Uganda trying to do anti-colonialism. He's here in the United States

01:13:05.280 trying to change America. Think about how whacked that is. Okay. But here's, here's the New York

01:13:10.640 Post points out there was no wave of anti-Muslim hate crimes following 9-11, not in New York or

01:13:16.920 anywhere else. Americans behave themselves with class and dignity and restraint, even though

01:13:23.080 they'd been brutally attacked by these jihadi terrorists. Okay. Like, like his friend who like

01:13:29.220 the, the, the, the friends of his favorite imam who tried to bomb the world trade center the first 1.00

01:13:33.960 time and kill thousands of Americans, this pillar of the community. Um, the, the, the post pointing 0.76

01:13:38.980 out that the, the anti, the fake anti may have had such fears, but only because activist outfits

01:13:45.220 like the radical council on the American Islamic Islamic relations care. We all know them instantly

01:13:50.380 began warning of rising Islamophobia in the wake of the attacks. So maybe she was spun up by a group

01:13:57.280 Zoran Mamdani loves care, but it wasn't by actual New Yorkers who were the victims, you cretin, 0.99

01:14:03.260 not perpetrators. If there was any anti-something bias, it was anti-American hatred by Muslims. 0.98

01:14:11.120 Zoran, it wasn't Americans hating Muslims, even though they had great cause to following September 0.98

01:14:18.280 11th. Um, and here's just a couple more. Okay. And that you mentioned that the father, okay. The

01:14:22.860 father who was a professor at Columbia, Zoran Mamdani's father, he wrote in his 2004 book,

01:14:29.380 good Muslim, bad Muslim, America, the cold war and the roots of terror quote, we need to recognize

01:14:35.320 the suicide bomber first and foremost as a category of soldier quote, suicide bombing needs to be

01:14:43.060 understood as a feature of modern political violence rather than stigmatized as a mark of

01:14:50.860 barbarism. My God, that's the person who raised Zoran Mamdani. This alone is a deal.

01:14:59.360 This man cannot be the mayor of New York city. He cannot be the mayor of New York city vote for

01:15:07.440 Cuomo. I'm sorry. I don't like Andrew Cuomo at all. I've said it every time. I can't stand the man

01:15:13.080 that the nursing homes, the sex pest stuff, the arrogance. I don't care. Zoran Mamdani cannot be 0.99

01:15:21.980 our next mayor. Yeah. I think the biggest problem you have is that Mamdani like Gavin Newsom is a 1.00

01:15:28.840 perfect embodiment of today's democratic party where they have these extreme radical beliefs that

01:15:34.420 are, uh, you know, even in a left leaning place, probably pretty radically outside the mainstream

01:15:39.960 that would get you elected, but they're shape shifters. And like that clip that you played of

01:15:44.800 Mamdani doing the tear, the fake tear thing. I mean, you put them on a red carpet and give them

01:15:49.480 an Oscar for something like that. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my entire life. 0.99

01:15:54.080 The woman that he's talking about doesn't exist in real life. And he moved to tears over it. 0.99

01:16:00.660 That's the thing is none of it exists. This bigotry, this America is a racist, horrific nation. 0.98

01:16:05.880 None of that exists. Everything that the left is pushing is an entire lie, but I'm going to disagree 0.96

01:16:10.800 with you completely and take the opposite side. Don't support Cuomo. Go for Sliwa. Sure. He's 1.00

01:16:16.520 going to lose and Mamdani is going to win, but New York's going to get what they want. They're

01:16:19.820 going to get what they deserve. I hear you. If they get out of control, President Trump can send

01:16:24.560 in the feds. New York has to get a lot worse. The people that have to suffer. They deserve it.

01:16:29.200 We can't have radical Muslims taking over New York City. We cannot have it. 1.00

01:16:32.400 That's what all the liberal voters, the Upper West Side is going to line up around the block to vote 0.67

01:16:36.620 for Zoran Mandani. They deserve it. And I would just say, you know, this guy who testified,

01:16:41.900 this imam who testified at the Blind Shakes trial, I would remind everyone, especially like the younger

01:16:48.460 listeners of this, that when Ramzi Youssef was put in shackles and he was in a helicopter after he was

01:16:54.640 arrested, he was over the World Trade Center. And what he said was, if I had more explosives, we would

01:17:01.020 have taken down those buildings. And to think now all of these years later that we're going to elect

01:17:07.700 somebody who is a compatriot to these people is such a disgusting thing in New York. I don't think

01:17:15.660 Islamophobia as it's hurled at us is really- It's not a thing.

01:17:21.660 It's not a thing. It's not real. Islamophobia is a made-up term meant to silence critics of Islam.

01:17:28.040 Yeah. Critics of Islam are on to something. Islam is incompatible with Western values. 0.98

01:17:33.640 Yes. Period.

01:17:34.760 And that's what I'm going to say again and again, New York's getting what it deserves. Those people

01:17:40.880 are going to vote for things to get so bad. They voted for de Blasio again. They had the chance

01:17:44.840 to correct that. And I don't believe it's the job of conservatives or Republicans to save those

01:17:49.060 people from themselves. To be like, well, I guess we got to side with Cuomo. Nope. We've tried so many

01:17:54.260 times in New York. I've ran so many elections there. If the people want to suffer, you have

01:17:58.400 to let them suffer. It's not like there's going to be a point where they realize, wow, things have

01:18:02.280 gotten bad after Zora and I guess we got to vote for Republicans. They will never, ever, the left

01:18:06.680 has never once course corrected and been like, you know what? It was a mistake doing gender surgery on 0.96

01:18:12.480 kids. 10 years from now, 20 years from now, when we see that right in front of our eyes, they still

01:18:16.340 will not retreat. They never go back. I hear you.

01:18:18.420 New York City is the gem of the United States. It is our, it's by far the greatest city in the

01:18:26.020 world. It just is. It's one thing to lose Dearborn, Michigan. It's one thing to lose Minneapolis. I'm

01:18:31.520 not happy about those either, but it's quite another to lose New York City to radical Islam. We cannot 1.00

01:18:39.140 let it happen. I mean, I don't, I'm there all the time. I'm in the city. My kids are in the city. My

01:18:44.020 family's in the city. I've grown up as a New Yorker. 50 of my years were spent in the state of New

01:18:48.400 York and 17 of them in Manhattan. This cannot fucking happen. This guy can't win. It's one 0.98

01:18:54.520 thing to go socialist. I was with you on that. But the more I have seen how radical Zoran Mamdani

01:18:59.940 is on the Muslim thing, the more I, we cannot have it. This guy genuinely scares me. He has to be 1.00

01:19:05.860 stopped. And that is why I uttered the words last week. And just again, now that I never ever would

01:19:11.060 think I would or utter, which is I would vote for Cuomo if I were still in the city and I hope people

01:19:15.560 vote for Cuomo. I'd like Sliwa. I like Sliwa. He can't win. He's had a shot. He's down now,

01:19:21.520 according to the latest poll under 10%. And Cuomo actually has had a surge since Eric Adams

01:19:26.500 bailed out there within 10 points of each other with Sliwa in. There's a chance he could stop him 0.87

01:19:32.240 and he has to be stopped politically at the ballot box. Megan, can I ask you one question though? And

01:19:38.200 this is the thing that frustrates me about the state of this race. It's like, why wasn't there 1.00

01:19:44.120 some patriot, some independent businessman who stepped up and said, I want to do something about

01:19:50.780 this? And nobody did. And that's what's so disheartening is like what our choices, the guy

01:19:56.780 who put grandmas into facilities that got them killed during COVID or Sliwa. And it's just very

01:20:05.420 depressing to me that nobody had the courage to step up and see this for what it was.

01:20:11.420 That age of New York is gone. We remember how tremendous the Bloomberg years were. The city

01:20:16.720 was safe. The trains ran on time. And then what did they do? They're like, this guy, he did stop

01:20:20.900 and frisk. He's a Nazi. And now then they got de Blasio. And now look at where they are. They get what 0.98

01:20:27.600 they deserve. It had its chance. They saw responsible leadership and they said, no, they turned on it.

01:20:33.140 This is a radicalized left-wing party. They are going to get what they deserve and they will never

01:20:37.640 learn from their mistakes.

01:20:39.200 You're not wrong. You're not wrong. I just, I still, you know, I'm holding out hope. Those are the

01:20:43.760 things I'm going to be telling myself the day after the election smug if Mamdani wins. But before

01:20:48.740 he's actually done it, I'm on a different page. I do want to say this, okay? I'm so angry about the

01:20:54.020 Mamdani attempt to make 9-11.

01:20:56.780 Because it's the best city on the planet. It's incredible.

01:20:59.320 No. And, but the nerve of him trying to take 9-11 and make it about Islamophobia is so galling.

01:21:05.380 Okay. My team put this together because, you know, I was at Fox News. I started at Fox News. I started

01:21:09.560 in News in 2003 in Washington, DC, which was also hit on 9-11. And I started at Fox in 2004. So three

01:21:16.320 years after 9-11. And a lot of my colleagues like Greg Kelly were over there on tanks reporting as we

01:21:22.600 were, you know, invading and covered so many, so many deaths of American service personnel who went

01:21:30.100 over there and sacrificed everything in these wars. That's what 9-11 is about. What happened

01:21:34.620 that day with the 2,977 people killed and the fire, the firefighters and the cops, especially,

01:21:42.380 but everyone. And then all of the U.S. service personnel who were killed, thousands of them in the

01:21:46.780 years thereafter. He gets up there and wants to make about Islamophobia for a fake aunt. So we pulled

01:21:52.260 this because every year we cover 9-11 and we give it its due because it's personal for a lot of us.

01:21:59.020 And here's just a couple. Okay. What you didn't hear from Zoram Mamdani was anything about Kevin

01:22:05.860 Cosgrove. I'm going to play you a soundbite from Kevin Cosgrove. He was 46 years old. He was from

01:22:12.860 Long Island, West Islip. He was a husband. He was a father of three. His oldest son was 12 and he had

01:22:18.600 two others as well. He was a vice president at Aon Corporation. He was on the 105th floor of the

01:22:23.900 South Tower. He called 9-1-1 to try to get help for himself and his trapped colleagues.

01:22:28.860 And we've got the soundbite. Let's take a listen to it.

01:22:33.340 We're on the top. Smoke rises too. We're on the floor. We're in the window.

01:23:02.860 I can barely breathe now. We're not ready to die.

01:23:14.600 That is what happened when Kevin Cosgrove was killed on 9-11, 2001. That day

01:23:31.600 is about him. It's about the others who perished in the most unimaginable, painful, horrific way

01:23:37.400 possible due to radical jihadis, radical Islam. It is not about some fake invented aunt. It is not

01:23:45.280 about Islamophobia. And no one can be mayor of New York City who doesn't understand that and prioritize

01:23:52.520 that narrative and those victims, guys.

01:23:57.860 100%. I mean, look, it's a deeply, for those of us who live through it, I mean, I was an intern in

01:24:03.460 Washington, D.C. and my brother's subway stop was World Trade Center. And, you know, for those of you

01:24:11.100 who live through it, you couldn't, you had no cell service. And so our parents knew our two locations

01:24:17.140 and didn't know what the situation was because they couldn't call us and talk to us. But I remember

01:24:23.140 the profound sense of gratitude for the country within hours where I went down to the mall and

01:24:32.900 down by the Capitol. And there were Republicans and Democrats alike that held a vigil where they

01:24:37.860 were singing. And the sense of American solidarity was so real in that we're all in this together.

01:24:46.320 And we're going to confront whatever this is. And we didn't know at the time together as a nation.

01:24:53.520 And we had that opportunity to do it as a fundamental. And I just, it's hard for me

01:25:00.440 having that memory be the, I mean, it's basically the reason I got into politics

01:25:05.280 in the first place. But it's hard for me to fast forward 25 years and see somebody like Zoran

01:25:11.460 Mondani, who's hanging out with people and, and promoting people who wanted and wished that day

01:25:21.580 upon America. And then to see Americans actually go down that path. You know, it was a little

01:25:28.660 concerning to see here about the Michigan problem that Democrats talked about when they, which was the

01:25:34.500 reason why Kamala Harris couldn't define October 7 as a terrorist attack against the state of Israel

01:25:43.000 because they had this huge constituency. It's quite another one, the largest city in America. And like you

01:25:48.600 said, the crown jewel could forget that, that day.

01:25:53.500 He was 10 on 9-11. And I guess he, he's decided he has no obligation to actually study up on what that

01:26:05.640 day was actually like. He talks about in a campaign speech he, he offered back in 2020, what it was like

01:26:12.840 for him as a young boy. And even then in this speech in 2020, he was the victim. Listen to this.

01:26:21.100 Sorry. On 9-11, when my teacher pulled me out of school, pulled me out of class rather, a classmate

01:26:28.320 of mine, myself, and told us that we may get bullied because of what just happened. We didn't

01:26:33.520 understand what had happened. And in fact, we were very lucky to have a teacher as kind and caring as

01:26:38.020 that because most Muslim students did not have that. Yes. It's about the possible, but never actual 1.00

01:26:45.600 bullying of Zoran Mamdani and other Muslim children. That didn't happen. We were worried

01:26:52.140 about our loved ones. We were licking our wounds. We were looking for people for months on end. Our

01:26:57.180 firefighters were digging us out in the midst of toxic dust that has killed far more firefighters

01:27:03.620 post 9-11 that were then were killed on 9-11 because they've died of cancers and other horrible

01:27:09.460 illnesses, many of whom are still struggling. Zoran, it's not about you and your fucking imaginary 1.00

01:27:15.500 bullying. I have one more I've got to do with you guys or just two more, two more. 0.99

01:27:21.340 Melissa Doy, 32 years old from the Bronx. She was an only child. She lived with her mom.

01:27:26.860 She loved dancing. She was in the South Tower of the World Trade Center. The right wing of the

01:27:32.000 aircraft had ripped through the 83rd floor where her office was located. She worked for a financial

01:27:36.940 systems group. She called 9-1-1 and here is part of that exchange.

01:27:43.160 Are they going to be able to get somebody up here?

01:27:46.200 Of course, ma'am. We're coming up to you.

01:27:47.840 Well, there's no one here yet and the floor is completely engulfed. We're on the floor and

01:27:52.000 we can't breathe. And it's very, very, very hot.

01:27:56.280 Is all the lights on?

01:27:58.080 The lights are on, but it's very hot.

01:28:00.060 Ma'am, ma'am.

01:28:00.760 It's very hot. We're all the way on the other side of Liberty. And it's very, very hot.

01:28:05.060 There is smoke. I can't breathe.

01:28:06.720 Okay, stay calm with me, okay? I understand.

01:28:08.900 I think there is fire because it's very hot.

01:28:11.260 Okay.

01:28:12.040 It's very hot everywhere on the floor.

01:28:14.000 I'm going to die, aren't I?

01:28:14.880 No, no, no, no, no, no. 0.88

01:28:16.020 I'm going to die.

01:28:16.980 Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. 0.96

01:28:17.820 Say your prayers. 0.98

01:28:18.960 I'm going to die.

01:28:20.000 We're going to be positive because you've got to help each other get off the floor. 0.98

01:28:23.360 I'm going to die.

01:28:24.280 No, I'm going to die.

01:28:25.020 Stay calm, stay calm, stay calm, stay calm.

01:28:27.540 Oh, my God.

01:28:28.020 You're doing a good job, ma'am.

01:28:29.420 You're doing a good job.

01:28:30.500 It's so hot.

01:28:31.680 I'm burning up.

01:28:35.380 She spelled out the last name of her mother.

01:28:37.220 She asked the dispatcher to set up a three-way call.

01:28:39.700 That wasn't possible, but the dispatcher did tell her to say whatever she wanted to say.

01:28:44.960 And Melissa said, tell my mom she was the best mother a person could have, that I love

01:28:50.000 her with all my heart and soul, that I will see her in the next world.

01:28:54.020 Her remains were found three years later.

01:28:58.640 And then there's this woman, Marcy Borders, known as the woman covered in dust.

01:29:04.660 Everyone has seen this photo.

01:29:06.120 She was only 28 on 9-11.

01:29:09.380 You can't tell how old she is because she's literally covered in World Trade Center toxic

01:29:13.900 dust from head to toe.

01:29:15.900 She was from Bayon, New Jersey.

01:29:17.920 She worked for Bank of America in the North Tower.

01:29:20.020 After the plane hit, she evacuated.

01:29:22.120 She got out.

01:29:23.520 It took her an hour to get down the steps.

01:29:26.380 She got out of the tower just as the South Tower fell.

01:29:30.720 A man pulled her out of the dust cloud, dragged her into the lobby of a nearby building.

01:29:34.440 And that's where Stan Honda, a photographer, captured an image of her completely covered

01:29:40.820 in dust from the building collapse.

01:29:43.040 The image became so well-known and so widely distributed that Borders became known as, quote,

01:29:46.920 the Dust Lady. 0.99

01:29:48.240 She said she never recovered from the trauma of the attack.

01:29:50.740 She was frightened of tall buildings and planes.

01:29:53.100 In April 2011, she checked herself into rehab.

01:29:56.320 A week later, the news broke about the death of Osama bin Laden.

01:29:58.820 She said that event helped her in returning to sobriety, and she felt able to move on from

01:30:04.080 the events of 9-11.

01:30:05.140 Again, that was in 2011, 10 years later.

01:30:08.500 In 2014, so three years after she got sober, she was diagnosed with stomach cancer.

01:30:15.820 She believed it was triggered by the toxic dust.

01:30:18.660 She died from cancer on August 24, 2015.

01:30:22.500 She was 48 years old.

01:30:24.200 Eight children died on 9-11 all aboard the planes.

01:30:27.680 The youngest victim was two and a half years old on flight 175.

01:30:31.080 Her name was Christine Lee Hanson.

01:30:32.440 She was on her way to Disneyland.

01:30:34.020 Ten pregnant women died that day.

01:30:36.200 Their names are etched into the 9-11 memorial along with the phrase, and her unborn child.

01:30:43.740 That's who 9-11 is about.

01:30:46.580 It's not about Zoram Mamdadi.

01:30:48.180 It's not about his fake aunt, and it's certainly not about Islamophobia.

01:30:52.520 And this man, who doesn't understand that, who hangs out with imams and calls them pillars

01:30:58.580 of the community, who supported the man who tried to bring down the towers the first time,

01:31:04.400 cannot be the mayor of New York City.

01:31:08.820 He cannot be the mayor of New York City.

01:31:11.100 And I'm sorry, but that is why we have to vote Andrew Cuomo.

01:31:14.740 Due respect to Curtis Lewa, he's run a good race, but he didn't get us there in the end.

01:31:19.540 There is no choice but to vote for Andrew Cuomo.

01:31:23.220 Words I never thought I'd utter, but we must.

01:31:25.680 He has to be stopped.

01:31:27.400 Well, I think it's important in this moment to think about that.

01:31:33.140 When you think about 9-11, you think about, like, our firefighters,

01:31:36.740 and the thing that always sticks with me and the Cosgrove thing you played, Megan,

01:31:40.420 you know, I've listened to that audio numerous times.

01:31:45.220 The thing that always sticks with me is the chirping.

01:31:49.840 Yeah.

01:31:50.480 And everybody here knows what I'm talking about.

01:31:52.980 And that is when those buildings fell, the chirping of all of those people,

01:31:59.320 those firefighters who, instead of running away, ran in and died

01:32:05.060 because they were trying to save other people's lives.

01:32:07.800 Yeah.

01:32:08.140 And in that rubble, you know, as they're trying to dig people out,

01:32:12.380 you heard the chirping of dozens of these dead firefighters.

01:32:18.140 And to think of all of the police officers who saw that first plane crash into the World Trade Center

01:32:25.840 and ran down to the financial district to figure out how they could help

01:32:31.460 and to think that Mumdani wants to defund the police in New York.

01:32:36.400 Yeah.

01:32:37.000 It's such a disgusting thing, you know?

01:32:41.080 Well, the fact that there's any constituency for it all is crazy.

01:32:45.740 But it's not just a New York story.

01:32:47.480 I mean, this is why I'm unconflicted about Hamas or Hezbollah 0.92

01:32:51.100 or what's been going on in the Middle East.

01:32:54.140 I understand a lot of people have a lot of different concerns.

01:32:56.960 People feel different ways about Israel.

01:32:59.000 People feel different ways about Netanyahu and the war that has ensued

01:33:03.100 that thankfully President Trump has had a leadership position in.

01:33:05.980 And we'll see how that all pans out.

01:33:08.140 But this is the fundamental question.

01:33:10.400 It's not a domestic political discussion about whether Dearborn, Michigan,

01:33:16.280 can hold a death to America rally of tens of thousands of people within our borders. 0.79

01:33:22.320 And you consider it a political constituency that you have to placate rather than a cancer

01:33:29.140 that you must remove.

01:33:31.100 That is the lesson of 9-11.

01:33:33.980 It wasn't 9-11 wasn't an individual event.

01:33:37.640 There were 11 long years that led up to that moment.

01:33:40.520 They had declared war on America for over a decade before they ever had 9-11. 0.58

01:33:47.220 9-11 was just the moment that America declared war back.

01:33:51.180 Now, you can make all your arguments about the war on terror and how that was prosecuted

01:33:55.900 and whether or not we got as a country what we were looking for in terms of the retribution

01:34:01.580 and the justice for the people who were killed.

01:34:04.400 But make no mistake, these people want the death to Western civilization, Hamas, Hezbollah, 1.00

01:34:14.260 radical Islam. 0.65

01:34:15.640 Call it out for what it is.

01:34:18.120 And I just, it shocks me to my core that we are having a very real discussion in today's

01:34:25.600 thing and age, just 25 years removed, where we're in a situation where we've got a guy

01:34:30.620 who's on the terror side, on the terror side of the equation.

01:34:35.000 Yeah.

01:34:35.400 I mean, get the hell out of here. 0.97

01:34:36.700 It's not just, people say, oh, it's just that he's Muslim. 0.79

01:34:38.880 That's not, that's not it, actually.

01:34:40.300 That's not it.

01:34:40.880 It's not it at all.

01:34:41.540 But Islam is not consistent with Western values. 0.99

01:34:43.640 So, I mean, there is something to look into there.

01:34:45.960 Just that alone.

01:34:46.740 I'm not going to lie.

01:34:47.760 That is potentially problematic.

01:34:49.320 Like, what kind of Muslim? 1.00

01:34:50.520 Are we going to be doing five times a day prayer and he's going to bring the tenets of

01:34:53.960 Islam into office, which does not believe in free speech, which does not believe in women's 0.99

01:34:58.380 rights, which does not believe in the separation of church and state?

01:35:01.480 Yeah, we actually might have a problem based on that alone.

01:35:03.520 I need to know more.

01:35:04.780 But certainly this guy's embrace of radicalism, that's a total, total deal breaker.

01:35:09.700 But Megan, we're not even a month removed from a huge, like tens of thousands of people

01:35:13.880 marching in New York City celebrating October 7th.

01:35:16.880 And that's the constituency that he's trying to get out and vote for him to become mayor

01:35:24.880 of America's largest city by showing up with people like the imam we just spoke to.

01:35:30.560 Yeah. 0.95

01:35:31.180 This is a disgusting mess.

01:35:34.480 And the dad, his own father, who doesn't think that suicide bombers should be stigmatized. 0.89

01:35:39.340 That's who he was raised by.

01:35:40.360 Well, and that's the thing is they might dress it up as the banner of resistance, this vague

01:35:46.540 term of resistance.

01:35:47.600 But what it really is, and Megan, back to your whole point, political Islam is the problem. 0.99

01:35:53.340 It is Western values and political Islam cannot coexist. 1.00

01:35:58.420 They just simply cannot.

01:36:00.300 Right.

01:36:00.480 And they call it resistance.

01:36:02.460 But the reality is it's from the river to the sea.

01:36:05.820 Right.

01:36:06.340 It's globalized the intifada.

01:36:07.880 It is a philosophy of violence and violence in political Islam is their whole thing. 1.00

01:36:16.740 Martyrdom. 0.82

01:36:17.400 It is what it is.

01:36:18.540 Yeah.

01:36:18.620 You can pretend like it's not it.

01:36:20.460 They say it's Islamophobia.

01:36:23.100 I don't think it's Islamophobia.

01:36:24.500 It's literally just reading what you say and what you believe in.

01:36:27.600 But it's also like if you're asking me whether I want Islam taking over American cities and 1.00

01:36:32.260 our positions of power, the answer is no. 0.99

01:36:34.200 If that makes me phobic of Islam, I don't give a shit. 0.99

01:36:38.040 Fine. 1.00

01:36:38.380 Call me whatever you want.

01:36:39.780 I'm unmovable on this.

01:36:42.640 I don't care.

01:36:43.920 And everyone needs to get this spine.

01:36:46.020 Do not let them shame you out of criticizing the takeover of Islam in American cities by 1.00

01:36:50.920 calling you Islamophobic.

01:36:53.080 You have a reason to be.

01:36:55.120 And by the way, it's not fear.

01:36:56.780 It's reasoned rejection of those principles as totally inconsistent with the foundational

01:37:02.480 ideals of the United States of America.

01:37:05.160 Go to Saudi. 0.99

01:37:06.380 Go go back to Uganda. 1.00

01:37:08.420 Go someplace where that is the majority. 0.98

01:37:10.240 That's fine by me.

01:37:11.060 I don't care.

01:37:11.680 Do your thing.

01:37:12.620 I don't want to convert those societies into American ideals either.

01:37:16.060 They can do their thing.

01:37:16.860 It's working for them.

01:37:17.580 I get it.

01:37:18.420 That was George W. Bush who was trying to change values in the Middle East.

01:37:21.080 Most of us today have no desire to do that.

01:37:23.160 We don't want our country changed to look like the Middle East either at all.

01:37:26.620 No question.

01:37:29.320 No question.

01:37:30.200 I mean, it's just like, again, I have a hard time wrapping my head around it, Megan.

01:37:35.120 It's just like having lived through all of that.

01:37:38.340 And I understand there's a lot of water under the bridge in the 25 years about America's

01:37:43.640 place in the world.

01:37:44.420 And you mentioned, you know, missions that have definitely gone awry from an American interest

01:37:49.620 standpoint.

01:37:51.040 But the fundamental principle remains.

01:37:54.420 But this is why this conversation is so important, dude, is like you said, Megan, Mamdani was

01:38:00.220 what, 10 on 9-11?

01:38:02.260 Yeah.

01:38:02.880 Right?

01:38:03.420 And so the history of all of this matters, right?

01:38:06.140 You got the 1993 World Trade Center attack.

01:38:09.400 You got Khobar Towers. 0.84

01:38:10.460 You got the Tanzania and the Kenya. 0.98

01:38:12.720 USS Cole.

01:38:13.500 Embassies.

01:38:13.940 You got the USS Cole.

01:38:15.240 Marine barracks.

01:38:16.000 Marine barracks in Beirut.

01:38:17.360 Like, it's not, I mean, there is a track record of this with Islamic radical extremism that

01:38:24.540 there are so many people in our country who do not understand.

01:38:27.160 They think they woke up yesterday and suddenly everyone's Islamophobic.

01:38:30.920 Yeah.

01:38:31.080 And it's like, no, we just looked at the record as it exists.

01:38:35.420 And we're making a determination that this is not compatible with Western values.

01:38:39.360 Mm-hmm.

01:38:40.660 Mm-hmm.

01:38:41.020 And we're totally entitled to that opinion.

01:38:43.560 And it needs to be expressed with a pencil in the voting booth next week.

01:38:49.340 It's right around the corner.

01:38:50.260 Or we got to end it on a later note because this is a fun one.

01:38:52.520 This is a fun one.

01:38:53.140 It's still political. 0.93

01:38:54.300 And it's still about lying liars who lie over on Team Blue. 0.69

01:38:57.080 And that brings me to Gavin Newsom.

01:38:59.560 Gavin Newsom.

01:39:00.560 This is such a fun story.

01:39:02.300 So Gavin Newsom goes on this podcast of two, I think they're former NBA stars.

01:39:07.400 Um, both of whom had rough upbringings, you know, really did have some tough things happen

01:39:13.440 to them.

01:39:14.060 And Gavin Newsom, who is the son of a very well-heeled lawyer who worked for the Getty's,

01:39:20.460 one of the richest families in American history.

01:39:22.380 They're like the Rockefellers, the Astors, um, but directly for the Getty's and was very

01:39:27.980 well taken care of.

01:39:28.780 Ultimately, both of them were, Gavin and his dad by the Getty's is like trying to relate

01:39:33.700 to them, trying to act like he had the same upbringing with, as these guys did.

01:39:40.160 Here's the soundbite, uh, Sot17.

01:39:43.440 My mom was 19, pregnant and, uh, divorced a few years later with two kids, came from 0.88

01:39:48.880 no money and just hustled, you know, worked hard, grinding every single day, two, two 0.88

01:39:54.080 and a half jobs, no bullshit. 0.96

01:39:55.300 Part-time bookkeepers, she did restaurant. 0.99

01:39:57.320 That's how I got in the restaurant business.

01:39:58.340 And it was just like hustling.

01:40:00.240 And, and so I was out there kind of raising myself, uh, turning on the TV, started, you

01:40:06.720 know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting there with the, you know, the wonder bread

01:40:11.120 and five stacks of, you know, like the white stack.

01:40:13.960 Come on.

01:40:16.160 Macaroni and cheese.

01:40:22.740 Oh my God.

01:40:23.740 That's how I grew up.

01:40:24.700 That's how I grew up, bro.

01:40:26.300 Yeah.

01:40:26.620 Oh, I grew up, bro.

01:40:28.300 I had a stack of wonder bread and some macaroni and cheese.

01:40:30.720 I was out on the corner.

01:40:31.580 It was just me and the Getty's.

01:40:33.040 You know how it is.

01:40:33.960 Just like a normal kid having to hustle.

01:40:36.380 Look at this picture.

01:40:37.460 Okay.

01:40:37.940 This, this picture ran, it's of him with the Getty's with, with two Getty sons or two

01:40:43.220 or three of them.

01:40:43.740 That it's like something, not that one.

01:40:45.720 We'll show that one in a minute.

01:40:46.580 This is like, um, okay.

01:40:48.760 It's a 1991 photo of Newsom with the Getty children.

01:40:51.280 It was about his first business venture called plump Jack, a winery.

01:40:54.720 That's Newsom second from the left.

01:40:56.840 Look at this hustling, starting a winery with the Getty's.

01:40:59.800 He's on the street.

01:41:00.360 Look at the Getty guy on the right with the greased back, long hair and the leather jacket

01:41:05.340 and like the villainous facial expression.

01:41:08.160 The article title was a new generation makes its mark.

01:41:10.740 Society kids take up endeavors outside the expected realm. 0.57

01:41:15.240 The sons of Gordon Getty and justice Bill Newsom.

01:41:17.940 That's his dad are opening up a wine shop.

01:41:20.960 And then they go on talking about the subtitle of the picture was children of the rich, children

01:41:26.920 of the rich.

01:41:28.040 Now he's with these two guys who had legitimate difficulties growing up.

01:41:31.240 Like, yeah, yo, me too.

01:41:32.380 Wonder bread.

01:41:33.140 He had to raise himself, you know, when you got just you and the Getty's opening a wine

01:41:38.140 shop out on those mean streets of San Francisco.

01:41:41.160 He's just like, he's just grinding on these grapes.

01:41:43.820 That's it.

01:41:44.880 That's it. 0.99

01:41:45.540 That's the most pathetic thing ever. 0.99

01:41:47.800 We were talking about this a lot on the Ruthless Rowdy program today. 0.97

01:41:51.020 We had that picture up and it was like, he's talking to a bunch of former NBA guys is my

01:41:55.440 understanding and like the observation is that this guy would lead them to believe that he's

01:41:59.980 crossing over Stephon Marbury at the Rucker Park when in actuality he's hanging out with

01:42:04.420 the Getty stomping on wine grapes.

01:42:06.700 Yes.

01:42:07.000 Or actually asking someone else to stomp on the wine grapes.

01:42:10.020 Look at this one.

01:42:11.000 This one was from, I think his high school years where he's got the, he's got like the

01:42:17.880 Burberry scarf on.

01:42:19.560 I'm sure this is how all of you looked in high school too, with your jackets and your

01:42:23.420 white shirt and the perfect hair.

01:42:26.800 I'm betting we're going to see that photo again when he runs for president.

01:42:30.560 It's going to be run by Zoran Mamdani on his way to getting the nomination for president

01:42:34.660 from the Denver.

01:42:36.360 That's depressing.

01:42:36.960 Thank God Zoran Mamdani is too young.

01:42:38.680 He's too young.

01:42:39.140 I think he's only 33 years old.

01:42:40.340 Like he can't do it yet.

01:42:41.580 He'll have a birthday to get from Uganda that says he's old enough.

01:42:44.380 I'm sure he'll rankle that up and Trump will be the first to call him out for it being

01:42:48.460 fake. 0.99

01:42:49.560 In any event, it's another faker, another lying liar who lies, unlike the Rufus Variety 0.97

01:42:54.660 Program, which only gives you the truth. 0.94

01:42:57.700 It's great to see you guys.

01:42:59.140 You can do it all.

01:42:59.920 That's what I love about you.

01:43:00.880 It is so good to see you.

01:43:01.440 Thank you so much.

01:43:02.100 Listen, good luck with your tour.

01:43:03.460 You're doing great work out there, Megan.

01:43:05.460 We wish we could join you because we've been watching intently and all you're up to.

01:43:10.180 It looks like everybody's having a blast.

01:43:11.480 Yeah.

01:43:11.640 I saw all the Instagram posts out of Texas with Jesse Kelly and everything.

01:43:15.760 God bless you for doing it, especially in this moment right now.

01:43:19.940 Thank you so much for doing your tour.

01:43:21.660 Thanks, guys.

01:43:22.220 You know, you're my brothers in podcasting and I'm always rooting for you.

01:43:25.740 Until the next time.

01:43:27.180 See you.

01:43:27.700 Thank you.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 28, 2025

Smoking Gun Biden Cover-Up Admission, Brutal KJP Interview, and Zohran's ＂Aunt＂ Lie, with Ruthless Podcast ｜ Ep. 1181

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