The Megyn Kelly Show - Taylor Swift's ＂Big Fat Disney Wedding,＂ Prince Harry's UK Plot, and Nancy Guthrie Ransom Note Debate, with Maureen Callahan ｜ Ep. 1352

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00:00:42.120 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We are headed into an epic

00:00:46.880 holiday weekend. I hope you've got big plans to celebrate the 250th. We'll give you our full

00:00:52.140 rundown on Monday after we have our biggest party yet. You know, me and the 4th of July. I love it.

00:00:58.900 even on a non-250th year, but this year we're going big and I hope you are too.

00:01:04.240 There's a festive environment right now throughout the whole country with the U.S. winning its first

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00:01:14.480 is about to celebrate its 250th, that was a nice little gift that our soccer players gave us.

00:01:20.000 Plus a big wedding appears to be in the works in New York City this weekend. I mean,

00:01:24.640 I'm still wondering if it's a head fake. I've got to be honest. You may have heard about it.

00:01:29.420 We're going to get into all the details. They say it's the wedding of the century. I think

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00:03:06.560 We have such goodness to go through today. We have to start with Taylor.

00:03:11.460 Oh, yeah.

00:03:11.900 So reportedly, she's getting married to Travis Kelsey this weekend at Madison Square Garden.

00:03:19.820 As one does.

00:03:21.240 As one does.

00:03:22.540 And that they're outside right now, like fabricating the castle that they are reportedly building for inside MSG, where she's going to walk down the aisle.

00:03:34.400 Look at this.

00:03:34.900 There's video of workers.

00:03:36.600 He's throwing a hammer down.

00:03:37.840 And he's mad because somebody tells him that it's supposed to be purple, that what they're building, the castle is supposed to be purple.

00:03:45.580 Can we show that?

00:03:46.660 OK, here he is.

00:03:47.880 Look, I love this guy.

00:03:50.000 Somebody tells him it's not supposed to be a red carpet.

00:03:52.840 It's supposed to be a purple carpet, reportedly.

00:03:56.240 You could see him.

00:03:56.960 He speaks for us all.

00:03:58.160 National hero.

00:03:59.000 Right.

00:03:59.460 He's like, what am I doing here?

00:04:00.900 Reveal yourself, sir, please.

00:04:02.240 Where are the Knicks?

00:04:04.160 What happened to testosterone and really, you know, legit events at the garden? 0.97

00:04:10.020 First of all, I love it because it's it's it's like removing the red carpet and replacing it with a lilac carpet is kind of gay adjacent. 0.96

00:04:19.240 Right. It's like lavender. 1.00

00:04:21.700 It's like we're saying it's a lavender marriage.

00:04:23.300 I'm not saying it is, but like and so some might say some might say.

00:04:27.880 Now, I've been I used to I was of the belief that this was an enormous distraction technique, like a side to me, too, like a CIA level side.

00:04:36.160 Yes. Everybody look over here and then we're going to go because, you know, I've been thinking about during this whole thing is JFK Jr.

00:04:42.620 and Carolyn Bissette. Yeah. Snuck off, got married on a remote island.

00:04:46.520 Nobody knew till it was over. South Carolina.

00:04:49.840 Cumberland Island off the coast of Georgia. OK. Right. Yeah. All right.

00:04:53.960 These two, when this divorce happens, this spectacular divorce happens. 0.93

00:04:59.240 We're already going to the place that hurts.

00:05:01.260 I don't want to hear it.

00:05:02.100 I don't want to hear we request our privacy at this time.

00:05:05.120 We are building a Disney castle. 1.00

00:05:07.580 She's building a fucking Disney castle inside. 1.00

00:05:10.600 Like I've seen the photos, like they're, they're wheeling in like monster 1.00

00:05:14.920 balustrades of like, like, like, like an enormous staircase.

00:05:19.040 And there's a baby grand coming in.

00:05:20.700 And I think, you know, it's funny.

00:05:23.020 I was thinking I'm having friends out for the holiday weekend and I was shopping for my goddaughter.

00:05:30.480 And I was like, what is this?

00:05:32.400 Are these items?

00:05:33.480 Are these toys I want to get her?

00:05:35.020 Are they too young for her?

00:05:37.880 She's seven.

00:05:39.820 This is like a seven-year-old's idea of what a grand wedding is.

00:05:44.780 It's Taylor's big, fat Disney wedding.

00:05:47.260 Yes.

00:05:47.400 it's like at first i really did not believe that she and he would get married at madison square

00:05:53.700 garden it's so on the nose in terms of like attention getting and just so gauche and then

00:06:01.000 i remembered what does she do like she shows up in the player's box for every single one of his 0.93

00:06:07.820 games and make sure she's front and center and seen on camera the whole time you know you you 0.58

00:06:12.860 could attend that his games without being front and center the whole game but she makes sure she's

00:06:18.220 at the center of that box she shows up at the Knicks games she doesn't even like the Knicks

00:06:22.600 she was rooting against them a couple weeks earlier when she was next to Travis Kelsey at

00:06:26.460 one of the events and she makes sure she's courtside and she's going crazy for the miracle

00:06:31.600 at MSG as though she's some lifelong Knicks fan which she isn't you know she's got a little

00:06:37.200 Megan Markle in her where notwithstanding the fact that we all know who she is she's got to

00:06:42.180 make sure she's reminding us all. She's relevant. She's everywhere. Admire me. Look at me. So yeah,

00:06:48.700 it actually does kind of track. I was thinking about Meghan Markle with this because the new

00:06:54.080 reports are, and I can't believe it didn't occur to me organically. She's filming this. Okay. It'll

00:06:59.600 be a Netflix special. Oh, of course. Big fat Disney wedding. Of course. And what do you think

00:07:04.140 like Travis is thinking right now? Cause this guy is a bruiser. Okay. Yeah. And as Bill from

00:07:09.640 brooklyn often reminds me it's so easy to forget he's a future hall of famer like he's a really

00:07:14.140 great football player yeah which has all been lost in this in in like i i think like we talk

00:07:21.040 about it as taylor's wedding he's just the guy she's marrying he's just a handbag reminding me

00:07:25.640 of the david beckham victoria beckham union because you know did you watch that documentary

00:07:30.960 he he's the bigger star he always has been the bigger star even though she's you know

00:07:36.620 the spice girls were huge right and victoria beckham i don't even remember her maiden name but

00:07:41.860 she was one of the most popular spice girls and um of course has made it on her own as an 0.98

00:07:48.400 independent fashion designer who's actually very talented i love her stuff um but she's kind of an

00:07:54.920 asterisk to david beckham it's the beckhams and it's like when these two stars get married

00:08:00.120 necessarily one of them's going to be bigger than the other and it actually can cause tension and

00:08:06.300 clearly in this union, she is, she, her fame dwarfs is. It's so interesting. You think about

00:08:12.880 like, I'm trying to think about celebrities where they got together and the, the, the sum was greater

00:08:17.920 than the parts. I would say like Brad and Angie, when they got together, Liz and Dick, even you

00:08:24.700 could say J-Lo and Ben Affleck as a sort of more like fast food nation version of that.

00:08:31.300 Back in the day, Joanne Woodward and Paul Newman.

00:08:34.520 Yes, yes, yes.

00:08:35.760 And that's kind of lost now

00:08:37.320 because we've all seen behind the curtain

00:08:38.660 and we know the tawdry stuff

00:08:40.020 that sort of goes into this stuff.

00:08:41.560 Yeah.

00:08:42.040 And to me, this feels more like a brand merger.

00:08:45.160 And for Travis Kelsey,

00:08:47.320 who historically has dated black women, just saying.

00:08:49.360 Has he? 1.00

00:08:50.100 Oh yeah, that's his type.

00:08:51.280 Oh.

00:08:51.500 That's his type.

00:08:52.120 Okay.

00:08:52.740 Oh, oh, you know what I wanted to tell you?

00:08:54.200 So this is a new thing.

00:08:55.380 This is a new development.

00:08:56.640 The origin story has shifted.

00:08:58.880 You know, the origin story of how they got together

00:09:00.660 was was travis was just hoping for a shot with taylor and uh he went to one of her shows and

00:09:06.380 he got backstage and he tried to meet her and he couldn't meet her so he left a friendship bracelet

00:09:10.420 with his phone number on it now we're back to the lavender theme again right i'm sorry but who does

00:09:16.040 that this is who does that a guy travis who recently said that was a joke uh i it was like

00:09:23.840 it was a gag like would she go for it like i was just like she did and she did and she did and she

00:09:29.560 got she got the high school football star she's like she's she's so i i find it fascinating how

00:09:38.040 just how emotionally arrested she is stunted i was just gonna say as all child stars are you know

00:09:44.000 tend to be she started very very early when she was like a hit songwriter at age 14 i think it was

00:09:49.480 so she lost all those years becoming a star same as justin bieber yeah and a lot there's a long 0.99

00:09:55.180 long list of childs any child star look what happened to poor amanda binds oh god yeah does 0.93

00:10:00.120 not engender wellness no becoming a big star at a young age and i'm sure she is arrested i'm sure 0.99

00:10:07.080 like when you see her behave whether it's you know courtside at the knicks etc she doesn't

00:10:11.900 telegraph to me like mature together um powerful woman even though she is she is a powerful woman

00:10:20.640 she telegraphs teenager teeny bopper insecure unsure of herself person and i do what i like

00:10:29.140 about this though i like that she's marrying a guy who looks like a real man you know he there's

00:10:34.180 no man bun they're like he's she's making him a little weird with the fashion i have to say he's

00:10:39.100 made some weird fashion choices since he got together with her not unlike what happened with

00:10:42.540 tom brady when he got together with giselle um but i like that she chose like a more traditional

00:10:47.540 man i like the facial hair and the big muscles and you know the football player there's a report

00:10:52.780 in your publication the daily mail today that she's gonna go with his last name on the electric

00:10:58.160 bill not at the stadiums taylor kelsey i know i would think she's gonna be either taylor swift

00:11:06.660 kelsey or taylor i don't know she's really gonna give up taylor swift on her concert sales yeah i'd

00:11:12.660 be surprised and you never know like what happens if they get a divorce like didn't courtney cox 0.50

00:11:17.520 our cat have to go back to courtney cox after that you have to go down the dmv or whatever you do

00:11:22.180 it's a lot to untangle that it is it is i used to be megan kendall oh when i first started at fox

00:11:27.560 how did you and so like how did well then dan and i got a divorce you but untangling that yeah i had

00:11:33.200 to go down dmv and and submit the proof of my divorce oh my god and then say i want to go back

00:11:38.340 to kelly and can i tell you brit hume tried to convince me not to do it really yes he was like

00:11:43.600 he loved the name Kendall. He preferred it to Kelly. I think he thought Kelly was like ethnic

00:11:47.760 and Kendall was more generic. I was like, Brit is my name. It's like having a, like a non-regional

00:11:55.560 accent or like a television personality be like anodyne and non. Yes. That's I love. I think

00:12:01.560 Megan Kelly is a much stronger name. Thank you. He gave me the hard sell to keep Kendall. I'm

00:12:05.520 like, I really don't. I love Megan Kelly as a, like a name. I like Kelly. I don't love the name

00:12:10.700 Megan, I got to be honest, there's a lot going on in the back of the throat. I, it's, I, if I had

00:12:14.500 it to do over again, you know, if I get to pick my name, I would have picked something easier to say

00:12:17.860 Megan Kelly. It's not easy. Say Megan Kelly. It's hard. You got to really hit it in order for it to

00:12:22.360 come out easily. You know, I've never really loved my name either. Really? Yeah. I love your name.

00:12:26.880 Do you really? Yes. It flows beautifully. I love all the syllables. Really? I, you know, I, my mom

00:12:32.100 was thinking of naming me Kate, which I, I think that's a strong name. I like that. Like it's like

00:12:36.760 you have a one syllable and then a three syllable last name. It's like a better rhythm.

00:12:41.620 Kate Callahan. But my father said I would have sounded like an Irish washer woman and he vetoed

00:12:46.780 it. So aren't all of our people, like washer women. Yeah. Like pretty much. It's funny because 1.00

00:12:52.380 one of the stories we're going to talk about today is this woman in the Hamptons whose husband took

00:12:56.180 his own life and, you know, their, their posh lifestyle as she posited it on her social media,

00:13:01.140 but was it really? And, um, they were writing about how like, well, he, his, he came from like

00:13:06.520 a nouveau riche family and she had a nice background and I was laughing. Like there are

00:13:11.420 people who, who deal in this, like they don't want their kid to get married to somebody who

00:13:15.940 doesn't have the right pedigree. I know some people like this. I can't, like, I am so not

00:13:21.680 into that. I just feel like, I suppose we're nouveau riche, right? Is that nouveau riche

00:13:27.340 just means you made it in your lifetime as opposed to like, you don't have generational. Well,

00:13:31.280 you're new to having a little bit of money and you don't know the codes necessarily.

00:13:35.680 Okay. That, that applies. That's I'm guilty of all of that. Um, but like, I can't imagine

00:13:40.340 actually wanting like my child to marry somebody in the social register. Like it was like,

00:13:45.640 it's important to me that they have the right breeding. They have like their boat name in the

00:13:50.920 social register. And then they're an acceptable candidate to marry my child. I just feel like 0.99

00:13:54.340 what a waste of your life to worry about that shit it's so wild the only reason i can think 0.99

00:14:00.020 of it you know is one thing uh knowing that they're not after money right like so that's i 0.99

00:14:06.320 think that was the megan markle well are they but are i don't know like can you like true

00:14:11.820 if you've had it like look what happened in the titanic when she was pulling that course to tight

00:14:18.020 the beginning and she was saying to rose all we have left is this good name true to land the

00:14:22.260 multi-millionaire. So, you know, just because you're a social register type doesn't mean you're

00:14:25.820 not in it for the money. Jackie Bouvier. Yes. Poor. That's right. Yeah. Had the, had the breeding,

00:14:31.780 but was poor. She had the name. She had the breeding. She had that face. Yeah. Beautiful. 0.85

00:14:36.200 Those wide set eyes. Yeah. The sun looked just like her. Yes. Yeah. So that was the other thing

00:14:40.960 too, with Carolyn Bessette, right? They said that JFK Jr. would never have been able to marry her

00:14:44.960 if Jackie had been alive. Why? Because she, she didn't come from their world. She, she grew up

00:14:49.960 Well to do. Her stepfather was an, is an orthopedic surgeon. They were raised in

00:14:55.320 Greenwich, went to good schools, but she wasn't from old money and she didn't know the codes.

00:15:01.280 There are codes. I mean, one of them is a monthly trust disbursement that someone in

00:15:08.000 the family is responsible for reviewing. Belle Burden. Yes. Oh, poor Belle. Oh,

00:15:14.440 we're not done with her over at the nerve. We're not done. We haven't had a chance to talk about

00:15:18.480 that we were we were on that book before anybody that's so right and now we're seeing did you see

00:15:24.960 the wall street journal did a piece recently no what did they write oh this is so weird her story

00:15:30.720 is not holding up like in a lot of flowery sort of framing you know i think the audience knows

00:15:36.740 but just in case you don't bell burden wrote this book it's a bestseller it's on the bestseller list

00:15:39.960 still um called strangers and it's about her divorce from her husband who came home and at

00:15:44.660 One night during COVID announced he was leaving her.

00:15:47.540 Well, it was after his affair partner's husband called Bell Burden to say our partners are having an affair.

00:15:53.560 The first night the husband said, I'm going to stay with you.

00:15:55.500 The next morning, he tapped her on the shoulder in bed and said, I'm leaving.

00:15:58.780 I thought I was happy, but I'm not. 0.98

00:15:59.900 And her whole book is about basically what a bastard he is and how he abandoned her financially and she had to worry about losing their house. 0.96

00:16:06.340 And we knew from the book she was privileged. 0.98

00:16:08.360 But we find out now, clearly, thanks to the husband, that she had sixty three million dollars in trusts.

00:16:18.220 She was never on in the knocking on the door of the poorhouse.

00:16:23.360 She is descended from standard oil money.

00:16:26.700 She has many, many famous ancestors, I believe, including like founding fathers.

00:16:32.420 The nerve got a hot tip from someone on the inside.

00:16:36.560 So we're going in again.

00:16:39.120 But my favorite part of the book, my favorite part of the book is when she describes her horror at the country club one day.

00:16:46.480 Yeah.

00:16:47.260 And a fellow member, a female, comes up to her and says, listen, sister, this is how it's done in our world.

00:16:52.780 She should have known because she knows the codes.

00:16:54.940 When a couple divorces, only one gets custody of the country club. 0.78

00:16:58.360 And it's not going to be you.

00:16:59.560 OK, it's going to be your husband.

00:17:00.800 He's got the connections.

00:17:02.360 And the money and the intelligence and all of this.

00:17:05.200 and they want him, not her.

00:17:07.140 And she can't believe it because she says,

00:17:08.700 but he did me wrong.

00:17:10.460 It should be, it doesn't matter.

00:17:12.320 No one cares.

00:17:13.420 Every day, nobody cares.

00:17:14.660 No, and you'll be kicked out of that club

00:17:16.120 just as soon as you were, 0.76

00:17:17.220 as quickly as you were welcomed in

00:17:19.100 when you're no longer connected to him.

00:17:21.240 Although she had all the pedigree and he had none.

00:17:23.220 He was nouveau riche.

00:17:24.700 That's right.

00:17:25.300 Right, he made his money in the hedge fund business,

00:17:27.320 but he married her thanks to all of her connections

00:17:29.280 in that same world.

00:17:30.780 She didn't have a lot of, well, she had money and trust,

00:17:32.660 but like she wasn't openly rich.

00:17:35.200 and she could introduce him to all the right people.

00:17:37.560 But wait, back on the Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift marriage,

00:17:40.920 I agree with you.

00:17:41.520 Unfortunately, I don't think it will last.

00:17:43.080 I just think there are too many complicating factors.

00:17:45.580 Why won't other people say this out loud?

00:17:47.340 I know they're trying to be polite.

00:17:48.720 I mean, we're not really polite.

00:17:50.100 I think there's a lot of money to be made off this wedding,

00:17:53.440 like all the tabloids and all the entertainment shows.

00:17:56.540 There's a lot of money to be made.

00:17:57.940 So let's pretend that it's going to be forever.

00:18:01.260 I mean, she's, how old is she? 0.97

00:18:03.900 She's a middle-aged woman. 0.99

00:18:05.200 She's like 35, 36. 0.99

00:18:06.760 She's closing in on 40.

00:18:08.080 And she's never had a successful relationship.

00:18:10.560 Like every single relationship has ended in some sort of a disaster that's turned into a song in which she berates the guy for mistreating her.

00:18:18.500 It's like a series of failures where she's bitter.

00:18:22.540 I don't know what his history is, but my own feeling is she's too big a star and he's used to being King B.

00:18:31.760 Like, I know that they've been dating for a while,

00:18:34.240 but as a married husband and wife,

00:18:37.120 his career is gonna end.

00:18:38.600 I don't know if it's already, did he already retire?

00:18:40.580 No, I think he's doing one more season.

00:18:42.240 Okay, so it's gonna end very soon.

00:18:44.140 And what happens to these professional athletes

00:18:46.460 when they retire from a job like that?

00:18:48.700 They're at the apex of the NFL,

00:18:51.620 which is just, you're like a god when you're in it at all,

00:18:54.260 nevermind as popular and successful as he was.

00:18:57.780 And unless you can do a Tom Brady

00:18:59.100 and parlay that into a $400 million contract

00:19:01.640 with Fox News to do announcing,

00:19:03.980 which from what I hear, he will not be able to do that.

00:19:07.360 What's your next gig?

00:19:08.560 Because you need something else,

00:19:10.020 especially when you're gonna be married

00:19:11.220 to this international superstar,

00:19:14.360 arguably the most famous woman in the world.

00:19:16.940 And I think it's gonna be very hard for him.

00:19:19.220 That's very tough to ask a man of his accomplishments to do,

00:19:23.580 to like settle into permanent second fiddle.

00:19:27.380 It's, it can be emasculating to the wrong guy.

00:19:30.960 So I have a, I have a different theory of the case.

00:19:32.920 So when they began dating, maybe six months in, he was a cover story and like the wall

00:19:38.480 street journal magazine.

00:19:39.820 And this is very interesting because it was, it was openly discussing, oh, I just lost

00:19:44.500 my thing.

00:19:45.000 It was openly discussing how, um, Taylor had elevated Travis and how now he had a world

00:19:52.520 of opportunity that had not been afforded to him before as simply an NFL player who

00:19:57.000 was not known to like if i know who he is like he's now super fucking famous that's true we know 0.52

00:20:01.720 about his name which i never heard of him before taylor yeah so he was he's making movies he's got

00:20:08.100 all these brand deals making movies he he had like a cameo in a in a big movie recently it didn't go

00:20:15.060 well but nonetheless he got it um he's got this podcast with his brother um now it's spun like i

00:20:23.280 know who his brother is, Jason Kelsey. I know who Jason's wife is, who also had like, she has a

00:20:28.900 number one podcast, Mama Kelsey. I know who she is. And she just did UK celebrity traitors. Okay.

00:20:36.240 Like I, these people are infesting the culture and it's because of Taylor. It's another reason

00:20:40.940 I loathe her. I just want her to go away. I hate that she's hijacking the 4th of July weekend. 0.99

00:20:47.000 I hate it. It's the 250th anniversary of this country.

00:20:51.740 She's not hijacking my 4th of July weekend.

00:20:54.200 No, I can't wait to see the photos from this.

00:20:56.540 Oh my God.

00:20:59.340 We've got like costumes galore. So what we're doing is first, we're having a parade of patriots

00:21:05.960 where it's like a runway show we're going to put on with historical figures of America.

00:21:12.320 You know, we're going to start with Christopher Columbus.

00:21:14.540 We have Abe Lincoln represented.

00:21:16.380 We have JFK and Jackie, Marilyn. 0.94

00:21:19.380 We got the Wright brothers.

00:21:20.560 We got a bunch of like surprise guests.

00:21:22.640 So quote unquote.

00:21:23.920 You know, I'm very well connected, Maureen.

00:21:25.960 I got them all.

00:21:26.680 My booking on this has been amazing.

00:21:28.360 Interesting.

00:21:28.880 Not everybody's getting Abe Lincoln.

00:21:30.260 Okay.

00:21:30.740 You're raising the dad.

00:21:32.420 So we're going to do that.

00:21:33.760 Okay.

00:21:34.100 And then we're going to do our traditional 1776 costumes and declaration reading.

00:21:38.960 And then we're going to have the marching band bigger than ever.

00:21:41.640 And that's my favorite part of every 4th of July.

00:21:43.520 It's so amazing to watch that band come down the street and hear the drums as they come,

00:21:49.040 you know, and just know this is happening and everyone's going to get to enjoy this

00:21:52.700 amazing patriotic music and celebrate the Fourth and Independence Day together, loving

00:21:56.980 America, celebrating our country, which is like something revolutionary in today's day

00:22:02.560 and age.

00:22:03.280 True. 1.00

00:22:03.740 So many haters out there say we suck. 0.99

00:22:06.240 I love it. 0.96

00:22:06.940 It's like a big middle finger to those people, which is not why I do it, but it is a secondary

00:22:10.900 benefit.

00:22:11.480 Do you have to pull permits for this thing?

00:22:13.520 Yeah, we do. Yes, actually we do, but it's so worth it. I love it. It's like,

00:22:17.760 I look forward to this holiday almost as much as Christmas. It's just,

00:22:21.380 I love the 4th of July too. So fun.

00:22:23.240 I love it because it's got, it's nothing else than celebration. It's just nothing else. And

00:22:29.460 it's just a reminder that like, if you're lucky enough to be born in this country,

00:22:33.060 you're born on third, you're born on third. Yes. Celebrate it. Yeah. Even though, you know,

00:22:37.360 you see the numbers on the patriotism dwindling, especially on the left,

00:22:40.820 a majority do not feel patriotic on the left. They're not, they don't think this is the greatest

00:22:45.180 country. It's like, why don't you travel more? Okay. Get out there more. Holy, you're not

00:22:49.640 kidding. So I just came back from London where, you know, I love London, but it was a heat wave

00:22:55.220 in Europe, heat wave in Europe. And, um, all the newspapers, all the news coverage, everybody you

00:23:01.440 talk to, how do we handle the heat? How do we handle? And I'm like, just be like America,

00:23:07.640 Get fucking air conditioned. 0.99

00:23:08.820 Yeah. 0.99

00:23:09.140 I got a great idea.

00:23:10.820 You know, it's like, it's so culturally weird there.

00:23:13.040 Like you'll order a bottle of water and they'll say, you don't want ice with that.

00:23:17.460 You don't.

00:23:18.400 It's enough.

00:23:19.220 I do.

00:23:19.780 I want it.

00:23:20.420 I want the ice.

00:23:21.140 I want a big jumbo.

00:23:22.380 I'm American. 1.00

00:23:23.140 Give me a big jumbo fucking cup of ice. 0.99

00:23:26.160 That's the same when you, when you order, like it's over there, it's all Coke zero. 0.99

00:23:29.900 They don't do the Diet Coke.

00:23:31.060 And then you ask if you want ice with your Coke zero.

00:23:33.280 Who would take a Coke zero without ice?

00:23:35.340 Kind of heathens. 0.91

00:23:36.200 I know.

00:23:36.540 What are we barbarians?

00:23:37.340 obviously we want the ice please like it goes without saying if you can see that i'm american

00:23:42.260 you know i want it um well anyway so you think that as a result it's gonna last or he's not gonna

00:23:48.780 he'll be happy in the marriage because he's getting her fame has lifted him and he's

00:23:54.320 benefiting so much from it yeah i think for now everything's great uh kelsey inc is running on

00:24:01.660 all cylinders everybody's getting rich and famous and we're loving it and i think eventually listen

00:24:08.880 i think taylor swift is a malignant narcissist yeah only a malignant narcissist mounts her

00:24:14.100 wedding at msg yeah tracks msg now we're getting the reports of all the celebrities who are arriving

00:24:20.480 in new york today i guess reportedly the the rehearsal dinner is tonight and the wedding's

00:24:25.400 tomorrow right it's not on the fourth the wedding's tomorrow the third tomorrow night

00:24:28.700 the third right yeah and um i know there's like dual lip lipa and i know a bunch of people from

00:24:35.160 across the pond i don't know is there any chance we're being head fake maureen and like all of

00:24:40.700 this is bullshit and they're going to be heading off to like some island like jfk jr the only thing 0.97

00:24:45.900 i can think that might be a head fake is um i think they might already be legally married 1.00

00:24:50.160 secretly legally married and then this is just like scratching her enormous uh showbiz itch 0.99

00:24:58.040 like which it's it's it listen that whatever chasm exists within her will never be filled 0.52

00:25:03.760 yeah that's true it will like it will like what kind of hole do you have inside of you

00:25:09.280 where you need to stage your wedding at madison square garden it's like laughable it's truly

00:25:15.560 laughable it's true maybe that's why she was at the knicks game she was doing research for her

00:25:19.280 wedding yeah i i think that the floral like the floral arrangements can you i can't wait to see

00:25:25.460 the inside of this thing. I can't. I can't either. I mean, like a lavender castle. I mean, I suppose

00:25:29.900 this really is a dream for a lot of women. This is the last thing I would want for my own 1.00

00:25:33.240 nuptials. The last thing, though we did get married at a castle. We did. Yeah. We got married

00:25:38.000 at Ohika Castle out in Long Huntington, Long Island, which is spectacular, but it was, it was

00:25:43.000 very classy. We had to get married outside of a church because I didn't have my marriage annulled.

00:25:48.120 It's an ongoing thing. Um, and we, it was spectacular there. We got married in this

00:25:52.920 ballroom that has fireplaces at both ends. It was March 1st. We had all a cherry blossom set

00:25:58.780 had just started, but it was snowing outside. Maureen was so beautiful. Um, and we kept as

00:26:05.100 small as like 125, around 130 people. And it was the most romantic day of my life by far.

00:26:10.900 Oh, that's wonderful. Spectacular. But it was with that number of people, it was truly friends.

00:26:15.460 We didn't go for like a thousand or 2000 or MSG. It's like, we kept it intimate to people who

00:26:21.340 actually we were connected to and who are connected to us right unlike you know megan

00:26:25.780 markle like you know inviting oprah and george clooney and celebrities she had never before

00:26:30.580 or lauren sanchez it's like what is sydney sweeney doing there it was some amazon deal remember oh

00:26:37.460 right and bezos owns amazon of course it was like she's not a friend why is she and tom brady yeah

00:26:42.820 okay he's not a friend either these are lies these people just want to feel connected to celebrity

00:26:47.020 Exactly. And it's such a, to me, it's such a like desecration of what that day and that moment should really be about. Like, so, um, I, I'm, I'm, listen, I'm, I appreciate the spectacle. I appreciate the comedy and, um, I'm very much looking for like, what does she do after this? What's the come down? Do you know what I mean? Like that baby, baby Kelsey's going to be the biggest news to hit the press in what? 15 years.

00:27:13.480 does taylor quote-unquote ruin her body by carrying her own child she will she's from the

00:27:18.920 south she's like she's a traditional gal at heart i think she's right she's from tennessee

00:27:23.320 a tennessee girl christmas farm originally pennsylvania oh yeah that girl does not get 0.97

00:27:28.840 the surrogate to carry her baby really i don't think so and then taylor's not known for her 0.98

00:27:33.500 incredible body you know it's not like a megan fox situation where it's like 0.70

00:27:37.840 you think of her that that other one arena who's constantly now talking about her sex i don't know 1.00

00:27:43.360 but like, I think she'll have her own baby. Interesting. I think so. I like everyone 1.00

00:27:48.060 should have their own baby. It's so crazy that that's become a vanity trend. Have your own damn

00:27:52.160 baby. Like, what are you saying? You're going to farm out that? Well, some women actually can't. 1.00

00:27:57.820 So, you know, you get, I get it, but I, I, I don't know. I think of someone of like her who's so

00:28:02.520 vain. She's so vain. Like what drives me nuts is seeing her at all these games. And she, again, 0.98

00:28:08.800 And she's like a teenage girl with like she'll wear the letterman's jacket, but it's like off the shoulder.

00:28:14.600 So you have to be like sexy and like her like her pal, Blake.

00:28:18.760 I was just going to say who's not on the list.

00:28:21.800 Right. There had been some confusion.

00:28:23.440 Like we weren't sure there was one report that she might have gotten the invite.

00:28:27.020 She might have eked it out.

00:28:28.980 But no, it looks like the answer is no, she wasn't invited.

00:28:32.180 So and what a humiliation, because Blake and psycho arsonist Ryan live in downtown New York City in Tribeca.

00:28:38.800 And they also have a place just north of there.

00:28:40.960 They do.

00:28:41.640 Around Chappaqua or someplace up there.

00:28:44.060 But it's kind of like, it's like your ex best friend is having.

00:28:48.260 Oh yeah.

00:28:48.820 In your backyard.

00:28:49.720 In your literal backyard.

00:28:50.760 And you're not invited.

00:28:52.140 Oh yeah.

00:28:52.760 And it's very high school.

00:28:54.140 Shame. 1.00

00:28:54.760 It's very mean girls. 1.00

00:28:55.980 It's very, like, I love it.

00:28:58.440 I love how, like, and the other thing that this wedding is doing for Taylor is we're

00:29:02.520 not discussing anymore her active role in trying to destroy Justin Baldoni, which I

00:29:07.820 will never forget taylor's yes exactly yes i know she was a participant in all of that active

00:29:13.000 participant she's a mean mean piece of work and and blake it just comes out today yesterday is 1.00

00:29:20.780 still working on destroying him they she had to actually submit her demand what what specifically 1.00

00:29:26.760 is the demand for legal fees that you are technically entitled to under this california 0.92

00:29:31.360 law that the court is using. And she says she wants him to pay $8 million on her legal fees

00:29:40.000 just to defeat his defamation claim against her. So she sued him. She smeared him. She made up all

00:29:48.140 these lies about him. He filed a counterclaim for defamation saying these are defamatory lies.

00:29:54.480 she managed to get it dismissed on the papers and thanks to this California law that it's weird but

00:30:02.600 whatever it protects alleged sexual assault or and harassment victims she's entitled to her fees

00:30:07.720 and she's claiming just to get his counterclaim dismissed cost her eight million dollars in legal

00:30:14.780 fees that is so outrageous that no no one's if if she actually spent that she's insane she's not 1.00

00:30:21.580 title. You can get your reasonable fees paid to you. But to the end, she's punitive. She's

00:30:26.740 punishing. I guarantee you, Justin Baldoni doesn't have eight million dollars. You know who does?

00:30:31.240 Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. You can put probably another two zeros after that eight

00:30:35.740 when you look at their fortune, thanks to him. I really don't. I don't understand what she's

00:30:41.200 doing here. I don't. I don't understand why she's dragging this narrative out.

00:30:44.600 Does this help her? Is this going to make people like her more?

00:30:47.100 No. And, and, and what's fascinating is she and Ryan are in such a weird bubble. Like they're all over Instagram posing these like happy, you know, and they're going to do it this weekend too. Like they're going to be happier than ever that they weren't invited to the wedding of the century. You know, they're going to be having the time of their lives, you know, and it's such bullshit and we all know it. We know who these people are.

00:31:10.160 Yeah. You know, they're awful, awful, miserable, rage filled human. I mean, talk about like, again, having a chasm that nothing will fill. No amount of fame, no amount of money, no amount of success. They you know, they have four children. You would think they would just be happy with their lot in life. 1.00

00:31:27.020 She had to be a Me Too victim. She had to join the Me Too movement and stand up at the Time 100 and talk about her mother's alleged sexual assault as though it were her own. She needed sort of that glory, the valor of Me Too rubbing off on her from her mom's alleged problems because hers were not convincing anybody.

00:31:46.660 And now with her reputation in tatters, she's Amber herded herself.

00:31:51.840 She thinks it's what she's going to be able to spin it as a victory if he has to pay eight million dollars.

00:31:58.800 She's going to everybody knows that's not in settlement.

00:32:01.120 No jury awarded that.

00:32:02.740 It's basically just because this one claim of his got thrown out.

00:32:06.420 Ten of her 13 claims got thrown out.

00:32:08.740 There's just no fees shifting provision for the laws that she was filing those under. 0.94

00:32:13.660 But she she lost 10 of her 13.

00:32:15.840 He lost one of one. And now she's going to try to spin it as like some huge victory that she's

00:32:21.120 eked some number of millions. She wants eight out of this guy whose movie she stole and ruined. 0.79

00:32:27.300 And she's gone on. You know, she's still going to be married to Ryan Reynolds,

00:32:30.120 one of the biggest movie stars on Earth. Justin Baldoni really didn't have that

00:32:33.640 huge in acting career even before this. And I'm sure is wondering what his next step is.

00:32:38.700 Brian Friedman came on our show and said he's not sure insurance is going to cover this for Justin.

00:32:42.980 Wow.

00:32:43.580 Yeah.

00:32:45.120 You're right, though.

00:32:46.100 That's what she's trying to do. 0.97

00:32:47.240 She's trying to eke out some kind of win so she can spin this to whatever friendly media outlets will listen to her and say, you know, I was legitimate.

00:32:59.300 I was done wrong.

00:33:00.660 Yeah.

00:33:00.840 He did harass me.

00:33:02.000 He had to pay me eight million dollars without mentioning it.

00:33:04.500 Actually, that had nothing to do with sexual harassment.

00:33:06.860 Exactly.

00:33:07.660 Exactly.

00:33:08.200 It's disgusting.

00:33:08.840 But I think, you know, I think they're operating on the old ways of doing things.

00:33:13.980 And everybody who's in the digital lane and pays attention, we all know what's really going on here.

00:33:21.580 It's no accident that Blake Lively has not booked another acting role.

00:33:25.000 What director is ever going to work with her? 1.00

00:33:26.920 What director is going to think she's not going to turn around and do the same thing to me and try to destroy me with her disgusting husband, just my opinion, right behind her? 0.98

00:33:35.540 you know, he's out there like trying to, uh, shovel his new Wrexham series. Like it's like, 0.80

00:33:41.020 it's another iteration of Wrexham or whatever. Right. Did you? No, you and I talked about this

00:33:45.860 and I said, it sounds like rectum. Oh yeah. I said you have filthy, filthy mind. 0.99

00:33:51.660 It does. Who named their business that? That's a bad name. 1.00

00:33:55.360 Yeah. It's, it's, it's funny. It's funny. Cause you know, the other person who has,

00:33:59.520 has decided that, uh, this is a winning team to be aligned with is Hugh Jackman.

00:34:04.840 That what, who, Ryan and Blake?

00:34:06.180 Yes.

00:34:06.640 What?

00:34:07.160 Yes.

00:34:07.620 So he was at the Met Ball.

00:34:10.920 Remember she showed up like hours later?

00:34:12.560 Yes, in her sherbet dress. 0.78

00:34:14.480 Yelling at the minions, the male minions on the red carpet. 1.00

00:34:17.000 Just do it, just do it, just do it.

00:34:18.020 That's not how it goes.

00:34:18.720 Look at me now.

00:34:19.800 Spread it out.

00:34:20.640 Don't pick it up.

00:34:22.060 Yeah, she basically sees everybody like that guy with a hammer who threw it.

00:34:25.140 Like, beneath me, worker, do as I say. 1.00

00:34:28.620 It's fucking purple. 1.00

00:34:30.480 It's lilac, goddammit. 1.00

00:34:32.640 Get that lavender.

00:34:34.100 Well, I don't know about those two, but you're right. Taylor Swift has gotten a pass for her villainous role in that whole thing. Same way Parker Posey got a pass for her abuse of that poor Swedish journalist or Norwegian journalist in the mean Blake Lively exchange. You know, like you have a cute bump, you know, where remember? 1.00

00:34:55.300 Oh, yeah. Shasta Flaw. Yeah. Shasta. Flawsome talk podcast. Yes. And Parker Posey was right there being as bitchy, if not more, as Taylor Swift to this poor journalist. Oh, it was awful. It was wasn't just that it wasn't just that the journalist congratulated Blake on her announced pregnancy. Yeah. And she was like seven months along. Yeah, it was visible. And then Blake turned around and said, oh, look at your, you know, and apparently from what I've read, that journalist was actually trying to conceive. So it was doubly mean, doubly mean. You never go there.

00:35:25.000 You never go. And then Blake turns directly to Parker and start. So talking to her one on one like this. And here's the journalist. This is her job. Everybody's got a job to do. And they're talking to each other like she's not even in the room. So Parker Posey, too. Yes. Fuck her. You know, it's like it's so it's it's punching down. It's like. Yes. Yes. And they and they're not bright enough to realize this person is there ostensibly to make you look good.

00:35:49.920 And now you're alienating her and she's going to fucking hate you forever. 0.99

00:35:54.100 It's just so short sighted. 0.99

00:35:56.420 And she did get the last laugh because that video of Taylor was so she had done that interview

00:36:03.960 years prior in promoting Cafe Society, Woody Allen's film.

00:36:07.220 Right.

00:36:07.560 They were both in.

00:36:08.860 And she said her her network did air it.

00:36:12.640 You know, they did air.

00:36:13.240 She wasn't sure if they were going to air it at the time she did it.

00:36:15.840 but she re-released that tape

00:36:18.660 when It Ends With Us came out

00:36:21.820 and there was buzz about Blake like being off tone

00:36:24.400 and pushing her hair products

00:36:26.620 while promoting a film on domestic violence. 1.00

00:36:29.340 And she reposted it like she's not a nice person.

00:36:32.800 And that caught fire.

00:36:35.440 It genuinely added to Blake's problems.

00:36:37.940 And Blake in that lawsuit really wanted to prove

00:36:40.200 that Justin Baldoni was behind that tape.

00:36:43.060 And that woman was, she was named on the witness list

00:36:45.360 And she was going to say he had nothing to do with it.

00:36:47.160 It was my genuine dislike of you, which you earned, you know, with all your hard work, 1.00

00:36:51.420 brings such a fucking bitch to me, along with Parker Posey. 0.99

00:36:55.220 You know, I wonder if some of the rage with Blake is, I've thought about this. 1.00

00:36:59.720 Why the rage?

00:37:00.700 Like, you have everything that you probably ever wanted.

00:37:03.760 She's on, like, her fourth face. 0.93

00:37:05.720 She's had extensive cosmetic surgery. 0.96

00:37:08.040 Has she? 1.00

00:37:08.600 She's had at least three rhinoplasties. 0.98

00:37:10.420 Oh, wow.

00:37:10.660 If you look at the original nose, it's a different face.

00:37:13.720 The Hollywood type, they get like these minor tweaks to their features that you can't like, unless you're really paying attention.

00:37:19.460 I'm very bad at noticing this kind of stuff. 0.91

00:37:21.720 Oh, go look up her original face.

00:37:23.120 It's amazing.

00:37:23.740 All right, I will.

00:37:24.220 It's incredible.

00:37:25.020 The smile is different.

00:37:25.980 Allegedly.

00:37:26.580 Allegedly, reportedly.

00:37:28.400 Just my opinion. 1.00

00:37:29.280 She's not a great talent. 0.99

00:37:30.860 She's not a great actress, right? 0.62

00:37:32.680 How'd she get there?

00:37:34.680 Reportedly, allegedly, she was a friend of Harvey's.

00:37:38.840 Oh, oh.

00:37:40.040 Maybe we had to do some things.

00:37:42.180 Most of them did. 0.99

00:37:43.720 Yeah, I mean, that's why I'll always respect Pamela Anderson, because she sat across me on the NBC set and talked about how and of course, I mean, especially in her heyday, the biggest sex pot in the world, you know, no, not just for her beauty, but like her sexiness. 0.88

00:38:00.860 there was zero chance Harvey didn't take a shot at her right zero chance and she said she was asked

00:38:07.600 to go meet him and others I think she said in hotel rooms for meetings and she always said no

00:38:13.780 she said her mother told her when she was very young don't do that like you know what they're

00:38:18.640 asking for and she was raised right her mother instilled a sense of common sense in her she did 0.99

00:38:24.000 not want to get ahead that way just because she's this knockout like sex pot doesn't mean 1.00

00:38:27.820 that's the route she wanted to take to becoming a household name so she was happy to put on that 1.00

00:38:32.820 sex appeal let men fantasize obviously she had her tommy lee and her kid rock marriages and all that 1.00

00:38:39.260 but when it came to actually getting jobs she did it the right way and she refused to play that game 1.00

00:38:45.180 good for her i know good for her it also it kind of tracks why now she's sort of like she goes

00:38:50.960 makeup free and she wants to sort of be taken more seriously you know you can imagine what that 0.94

00:38:56.820 branding did to her. And she did want to become a movie star. Remember she did that movie. Was it 1.00

00:39:02.160 Barbed Wire? Barbed Wire. Yeah. She did want to be a movie star and it didn't quite work out for

00:39:06.520 her, but it's, it's interesting that she, again, like Courtney Love set it on a red carpet back

00:39:11.880 in the nineties. I don't know if you remember this clip, but some entertainment journalist said,

00:39:15.960 Courtney, what would you advise to, uh, any young actress coming to LA wanting to make it?

00:39:21.340 And she said, if Harvey Weinstein invites you to a meeting at his room at the four seasons,

00:39:25.320 don't go so true I mean it does remind me that Janice Dean told a story about Roger Ailes where

00:39:34.860 she she was interviewing for her job and he asked her to meet him at a hotel lobby

00:39:41.120 and she did it he you know it was like in the restaurant or in the bar and she she did wasn't

00:39:47.300 like come meet me at my room she did it and uh across from her at that meeting he like reached

00:39:53.720 out and I kind of held her hand and he said, I need to know how you see me, how you see me.

00:39:59.720 And Janice said, like, like a teacher, like a mentor, you know, like, like a boss,

00:40:06.600 which was not really what he wanted to hear. But I, I just loved how she played it. Like,

00:40:12.340 like a mentor, you know, like not as a friend, as like a, you know, someone from whom I have

00:40:19.080 a lot to learn. She didn't, she didn't go there. Did people know, like, like if you, like if I'm

00:40:23.680 like going in and it's like Roger Ailes wants to interview you, you're at like the last part of

00:40:29.000 the process. And if he okays you, you're going to get the job. Yeah. Would I have heard through a

00:40:33.740 whisper network? I don't think so. Really? I definitely don't think so. I mean, I, I definitely

00:40:39.840 thought I was the only one. And that was part of like my own confusion about the whole situation

00:40:43.860 for years when i was very young i thought he was trying to have an affair with me i didn't look at

00:40:49.220 him as a harasser do you know what i mean like i thought he was taking a shot at having an affair

00:40:53.880 and then somebody at fox who i was close with said he's just an unhappily married guy and so

00:41:00.660 like it just was framed for me by myself and by this other person who knew him as like about

00:41:06.540 having an affair as opposed to being a serial assaulter or whatever, harasser. And it wasn't

00:41:14.680 until years later that I would talk to JD and like over drinks one night, we would like tell

00:41:19.460 our stories and we were both like, oh my God. Oh, wow. Yeah. It was crazy. And then we had no idea

00:41:25.500 the extent of it until the scandal hit. And then it was like, then we actually went looking to find

00:41:30.540 out like who else is there? Like there's got to, how widespread is this? And the answer was

00:41:34.880 extremely widespread, but he was so powerful. He managed to keep it quiet and people were too

00:41:39.480 terrified. I think now in retrospect to say anything about him is he just, you know, he was

00:41:44.580 like dear leader. Wow. Yeah. That's amazing. It's amazing how he was able to keep all of that siloed

00:41:53.420 and have confidence that none of the women would speak to each other about it. Yeah. Oh, I mean, 0.92

00:41:59.660 He probably gave them the same spiel he gave me, which was, I mean, later, you know, we got past that incident, the period where he was trying to whatever with me.

00:42:09.920 And we went on to have a very good relationship for the vast majority of my years there.

00:42:14.660 But he would, even once we were past all that, you know, he had me up there and I'd sit in his office for three hours at a time.

00:42:23.180 I'd come out of there and Suzanne Scott and Bill Shine is his number two and one person would be

00:42:28.620 like looking at me like what's on his mind what's he saying about this what like he didn't do this

00:42:32.300 with his executives like I I became a close confidant of his it was very strange I appreciate

00:42:38.020 I learned a ton but I've I maintain to this day I could tell you more about Roger Ailes

00:42:41.820 philosophy in terms of like talent management and running the company than either of those two could

00:42:47.160 um but he would stress how he needed to be able to trust you and how like you couldn't repeat

00:42:55.340 anything he said in there and i always accepted that as like this is the price of admission like

00:43:01.780 he needs to have a couple of people he can talk to and he he said to me one time i think i'm the

00:43:07.300 loneliest man in the world because i don't think he thought he could have friends i think he was

00:43:13.140 not unlike a lot of like prominent politicians like look at trump i'm sure at some level trump

00:43:19.520 knows 99.9 percent of the people around him are using him they're not real friends they're like

00:43:26.340 they want something and that was probably true in his real estate business too it's the downside of

00:43:31.120 being extremely successful whether it's in terms of money or accomplishment and i think roger felt

00:43:36.420 that doubly he felt very paranoid about people exploiting him using him or or you know i don't

00:43:42.800 know just setting him up which is ironic because you know then came Gretchen Carlson who was in

00:43:47.460 there taping him um and he he didn't think he had any friends he said that that's interesting because

00:43:54.140 saying the thing about Gretchen like taping him it that to me is an interesting window into that

00:44:01.220 psyche because I kind of think you're you think that way if you're up to something bad right you

00:44:07.660 you can't have friends. You can't have friends at your level, right? You don't have friends from

00:44:13.160 before. You don't have family members that you trust implicitly. You've got to have those people

00:44:19.040 like most of us do. Most people do. I just, I don't buy, like, I can't have friends like that.

00:44:24.760 You're up to something and you need to, you need to silo your life. You can't integrate everything

00:44:31.920 because you're over here doing some really bad shit yeah it's true i mean i remember talking 0.84

00:44:38.360 to o'reilly and he said um like all of his best friends were from childhood like when he was young 0.99

00:44:43.520 he's still i mean i haven't talked to o'reilly in years but every year he used to take a guy's

00:44:48.920 trip with his like childhood buddies and i think it's hard for people who become like super famous

00:44:54.680 you know as as bill did to you know really trust their new friendships people who came to them

00:45:01.020 once they already were, you know, I, I don't know. I just feel like I, I myself have learned

00:45:05.420 some lessons this year. I thought I genuinely thought I had a true friendship with Ben Shapiro

00:45:09.660 and I learned this year I didn't and don't. So I'm 55 and I'm still learning some lessons here

00:45:15.680 about like, I don't know, putting too much stock in certain relationships. Maybe I shouldn't have

00:45:19.820 thought that it's not like we had a bunch of like private dinners together or like hung out over

00:45:24.020 holidays. I don't, but I, I didn't really think you had to, I consider you a dear friend and we

00:45:29.240 don't have a ton of dinners together like i don't know sometimes you can lose your faith in humanity

00:45:34.460 when too many people burn you and you have to fight against that you do and i think you know

00:45:38.720 you have an unusual life um you're a very prominent public figure

00:45:45.500 uh there are people who are gonna want things from you and and hide their true motives

00:45:54.020 but i think like i don't i think it's like you will those people will eventually reveal

00:46:01.060 themselves they will and it will be painful but it's it's kind of just like i think it's kind of

00:46:05.440 just the cost of doing business a bit yeah you know and you don't ever really want to lose your

00:46:09.020 faith in like humanity or you know and i don't i don't think i will like i i liken it to my dogs

00:46:15.100 you know thunder when we got the invisible fence thunder's the easy good she's the good one

00:46:22.180 strudwick is the difficult one he's amazing i love him but he is definitely a challenge

00:46:26.160 and she crossed that fence one time she got the shock she was like i got it i'm good i'm gonna

00:46:32.280 sit here now i'm not gonna go near that and strudwick was like this floppy fun mess ran

00:46:38.460 and he got shocked and he tried another area and he got shocked again he tried the other and he

00:46:43.360 wasn't getting it at all and that's i would say my own approach to friendships

00:46:47.220 I'm much more in the Strudwick field of like, let's try it again.

00:46:54.120 Let's make the same mistakes over and over.

00:46:57.220 Isn't life fun?

00:47:00.100 Anyway, we also call him Khalid Sheikh Mohammed because of that, because nothing bothered the guy.

00:47:05.480 He was like, you can shock me over and over.

00:47:07.960 That's hilarious.

00:47:09.060 But, you know, the other thing is like you have the dogs, like your dog, like my dogs.

00:47:14.200 It's like, they're like, you can always go back to your dogs.

00:47:17.560 Oh, they're never going to betray you.

00:47:20.080 They're so happy to see you.

00:47:21.960 You know, it's like the way your dog gets up.

00:47:24.380 No, but you can see your dog is dead tired over there, like in his little dog bed or whatever on your couch or on your kitchen table.

00:47:29.860 In my case, and you come down in the morning and like, they always get up.

00:47:33.700 They they're like, mom's here.

00:47:35.920 They get themselves up.

00:47:37.300 They come over.

00:47:38.020 They wag their tails, even if they've already eaten, even if like Doug's gotten up before me and fed them.

00:47:41.980 They like they come over.

00:47:43.600 They greet you.

00:47:44.080 that's the sweetest thing it's the best it's the best you're like they're always happy they're like

00:47:50.420 they're always just happy to see you and be with you who is did you say dogs plural i know about

00:47:55.060 teddy van halen oh yeah i got another one we have there's a puppy now his name is trouble oh he's uh

00:48:01.820 seven months old it's so fun trouble that's thunder's father's name no yeah i thought here

00:48:07.920 i was thinking i was so original well it is original not not many people have that name

00:48:11.860 so wait what kind of dog is he he's also a mini pomeranian he and teddy have the same father

00:48:16.420 is he trouble van halen no i was trying to come up with another rock and roll name you know and

00:48:22.300 it was it was a stretch i got a lot of really interesting uh ideas though from troublemakers

00:48:26.940 a lot of people were very in the camp of palm bon jovi oh i like it which is great but i'm not

00:48:33.140 really a bon jovi fan so i couldn't i couldn't go with so i am i'm a richie sambora fan but i don't

00:48:38.240 know what's happening with Jon Bon Jovi. So first of all, Jon Bon Jovi took himself far too

00:48:43.160 seriously. I went to a Bon Jovi concert with Kid Rock one year. Well, Kid Rock was opening for him

00:48:48.480 and invited me and Doug. So I wasn't there with Kid Rock, but at his invitation. And Jon Bon Jovi

00:48:54.760 was behind the scenes drinking white wine with his pinky out. Oh, you've told me this story.

00:48:58.300 So that was number one. Number two, something bad happened to Jon Bon Jovi's voice. Like he lost

00:49:04.880 screaming and he lost it. Like literally cannot sing anymore, which is sad and tragic, but he's

00:49:10.940 still out there and he's still kind of doing it. And there's a trend of these aging rockers

00:49:17.260 who don't realize, did you, have you seen the tape that's circulating right now of Barry Manilow?

00:49:22.220 No, it's horrifying. And also Smokey Robinson, horrifying. Who's 86 now. And you could look at

00:49:29.840 this tape and say, Oh yeah, he's looking good for 86. No, no, he's not singing. He's not giving

00:49:34.660 the audience what they paid for. He's trying way too hard with the multiple plastic surgeries.

00:49:39.280 This applies to both of them. And they're just mouthing the words of soundtracks,

00:49:43.340 you know, that that's being pumped that are being pumped in. I object unless you can do it like

00:49:47.700 Rick Springfield, who at 76 or 77 looks like a 42 year old man out there without his shirt on

00:49:53.360 and is still singing amazingly and a colleague of ours at Sirius XM.

00:49:59.280 Then don't do it. Don't do it because the fans, I think you're expecting a real live human doing

00:50:03.640 real life singing but so what do they do though like that's like that's what they do it's like

00:50:09.260 show up at a fan event you could like sign photographs you could glad hand it's probably

00:50:13.940 not the same it's not the same experience i would think like that's what you know that's what you

00:50:19.680 it's why it's it's why i was thinking about this because i was listening to your conversation

00:50:23.540 yesterday with um rob finnerty i loved him he's a troublemaker do you know is he he's a trouble i

00:50:29.960 love that guy yeah and uh you guys were talking about serena williams yes and it's like she she

00:50:36.500 she doesn't there's nothing else for her like this is it she's back to the well but we're going back

00:50:41.780 it's like tom brady who came out of retirement five minutes later it's like they don't know what

00:50:45.880 else to do with themselves you know and tom brady it's been interesting watching tom brady because

00:50:50.420 like i've come to the realization like this guy love he loves being famous oh yeah he needs to be

00:50:56.800 famous. He needs it. Like we're showing up at roasts now, you know, we're like, we're doing

00:51:02.080 everything on my Delta flight. He has like a mini travel show. He's like, he's, he's charismatic as

00:51:08.280 a piece of plywood, you know, he doesn't have any timing. No, he's not natural. His face has been

00:51:14.260 like, you know, plastic surgery to like too much symmetry. Allegedly, reportedly, allegedly,

00:51:19.880 reportedly, like it doesn't read as human anyway. Yeah. They don't know what else to do with

00:51:24.340 themselves. Well, we'll drop in clips of Smokey and Barry so you guys can make your own minds up

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00:52:56.000 Maureen Callahan is back with me.

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00:53:09.580 We actually pulled the Barry and the Smokey Robinson tapes.

00:53:12.760 We're going to look at them together.

00:53:13.760 All right, let's see.

00:53:14.600 Let's see Barry first.

00:53:20.180 So he's had more face work than Joan Rivers, obviously.

00:53:30.780 He's the obvious, you know, 83-year-old man.

00:53:34.120 And it doesn't even look like he remembers the words to his song.

00:53:37.680 Like, he's barely mouthing.

00:53:39.560 It's like he's behind the audio track.

00:53:42.140 Yeah.

00:53:42.960 This is so awkward.

00:53:44.240 Why wouldn't he just let your legacy live with the memories of the actual you?

00:53:50.180 singing act doing actual singing of your iconic songs this to me is just sad this isn't fun

00:53:56.840 you know do you remember when like they were wheeling tony bennett out and he had dementia

00:54:01.560 yes you know it's like that it's like you kind of want your dignity but i don't know like

00:54:06.460 i don't know that veteran show business war horses like a barry like he's not i just i just

00:54:13.080 think he he needs to be on stage he needs it i think it's his oxygen oh my god this is like

00:54:19.320 Loving family members would not let you go out this way.

00:54:22.200 Sir Smokey Robinson, 86 years old.

00:54:24.200 I know we're supposed to look at this and say, 86?

00:54:27.180 That's not at all how I feel.

00:54:32.100 Look at this.

00:54:35.880 Okay, for the listening audience, he's wearing the sparkly green pants and he's rubbing his 0.77

00:54:40.040 thighs like right around his crotch and like right on and almost right on the crotch here 0.93

00:54:44.280 as slowly as humanly possible. 0.99

00:54:47.100 Now he's rubbing his ass, you know, like slow groove, like he's getting ready to, like, get on top of somebody. 0.99

00:54:54.040 Meanwhile, you know, he steps from the grave. 0.99

00:54:56.780 And this is like, it's not inspirational.

00:55:01.200 He looks so infirm.

00:55:05.180 And look, I was just with a friend of mine who's 83.

00:55:09.600 She puts this guy to shame.

00:55:10.940 She actually could do his dance moves better than he could by far.

00:55:14.880 She's very mobile.

00:55:16.120 She's very robust.

00:55:17.800 You can have somebody even in their mid 80s.

00:55:19.680 Jane Fonda, I think, is 88 now.

00:55:21.320 Yeah.

00:55:22.040 But that's not it.

00:55:24.060 That's not it.

00:55:24.900 And, you know, that really disturbs me.

00:55:27.440 It looks like he's committing like a felony in several states.

00:55:32.160 It does.

00:55:33.260 It also makes me think of Madonna.

00:55:36.700 I was just going to say that.

00:55:38.440 So have you seen the latest tape of her?

00:55:40.280 Was she trying to crawl up on the DJ?

00:55:42.880 No, no.

00:55:44.420 She bends over. 0.98

00:55:45.380 we're going to play it well okay here she is she's she's 66 yeah i think so six or 67 she might be 0.97

00:55:54.240 67 look at this she's doing a full bend over twerk with her hands on the floor and like bottom up and 0.50

00:56:01.600 down up and down with the woman behind her pretending to stick her tongue there and now 0.60

00:56:06.760 look how she moves maureen maureen madonna i'm sorry to say is moving more like an older person 0.89

00:56:13.380 now and she's not pulling this off she thinks she's pulling this this is a disgusting but

00:56:19.040 i think that's what's colloquially colloquially colloquially known as tossing the salad it's a 0.98

00:56:28.020 sex act it's disgusting she's 68 look at her you can see she's kind of got the forward hunch 0.98

00:56:32.520 if you know we'll play the longer extended uh video of her with the rest of the dance but you 1.00

00:56:37.580 can see that like age is even coming for madonna and she won't she doesn't have to submit to it 0.99

00:56:44.560 but why can't she just behave like a saucy 67 year old as opposed to a saucy 27 year old yes

00:56:53.420 you know it's i i it's it's really here we go this was the times square thing with like 0.87

00:56:59.100 basically flashing her vag no no that's just no one wants to see put it away it's got cobwebs on

00:57:05.140 at this point it's it I used to think that um it would be really it was going to be really

00:57:10.140 fascinating to watch Madonna age because she was such a rule breaker and she just reinvented

00:57:14.640 herself in in so many brilliant ways and I never saw this coming I never you know when she was 1.00

00:57:20.940 married to Guy Ritchie she was in her like land lady of like the landed gentry phase and she had 0.93

00:57:26.380 the fake British accent she was dressing like a an equestrian and you know like we're put I don't

00:57:32.120 know what's happened here. Like, I don't know. I really genuinely hope not to be this needy when

00:57:36.700 I am 67 years old, you know? Well, I don't see you doing this kind of a thing. I've never done

00:57:43.620 this kind of a thing, but it's just like Tina Turner is the gold standard. Yeah. Yeah. The

00:57:49.080 gold standard. You're absolutely right. Showed those legs, the shortest shirt and she rocked

00:57:55.440 it. The arms with the guns, the sexy dancing, but not the inappropriate, like the gyration 1.00

00:58:01.960 simulating sex acts that's just so base that is madonna when she was 19 and it was like whatever

00:58:09.160 the 1990 1995 era but she was a much younger woman then and it didn't make you feel like

00:58:15.060 oh my grandma's trying to hump me no i mean there's there's listen evolution works one way

00:58:21.700 you know none of us want to see you know you look at mc jogger the male version of a tina turner

00:58:27.520 yeah he's still doing it right yeah you know yeah it can be done still moving uh deb deb murphy

00:58:32.860 canadian debbie says we have to look at sat 13 this is madonna crawling around on all fours let's

00:58:37.160 watch oh this is right you don't want this 0.96

00:58:39.800 she's dressed like a 1920s black 1.00

00:58:47.800 her breasts are spilling out pretty much she's got rid of the eyebrows 1.00

00:59:03.000 she's smoking it looks like a cigarillo that she's smoking and the whole thing with madonna 1.00

00:59:13.100 two used to be that she was like straight edge. She didn't smoke. She didn't drink. She didn't do 0.94

00:59:17.900 drugs. She didn't do anything. That is a woman to me in the throes of an active drug addiction. 1.00

00:59:22.180 I'm sorry. That's what she looks like. Yeah. Just so desperately needy. Like I would love to think 1.00

00:59:27.800 of you as not this needy as just like this bad-ass billionaire, you know, who's accomplished more

00:59:32.960 than virtually any other singer alive, who's totally comfortable in her own skin and doesn't

00:59:37.760 need to do thirst traps for the 25 year old guys when you're pushing 70 and it's not going to

00:59:43.740 happen. Like it's, it's, it's depressing to me. That's, that's, it is depressing. She could have

00:59:48.880 been a really cool, iconic elder States woman of rock and she's not, and that's not how it wound

00:59:55.880 up going. Okay. I've got to show you tape that comes from the Jesse water show because it's

01:00:01.840 summer and uh we're at the jersey shore and i don't know whether this was taken at the jersey

01:00:08.060 shore i know jesse comes to the jersey shore so it's possible he was not in this tape but it ran

01:00:12.420 on his show and i'm concerned maureen concerned about the future of our nation because of this

01:00:18.340 okay watch why do we celebrate the 4th of july um i honestly couldn't answer that well

01:00:27.380 actually not sure we celebrate the birthday of america to be lit and enjoy life that didn't

01:00:35.360 used to be a trick question how old is america turning this year um i have no idea 58 58 is it

01:00:52.900 actually? No. 250? Where do we declare our independence from? Explain that a

01:01:01.300 little bit further. What do you mean by where? The United States. Great Britain.

01:01:07.300 Mozambique, Africa. You're kidding, right?

01:01:14.900 What was the name of the war in which we fought for our independence? Civil War.

01:01:22.460 The Civil War.

01:01:23.640 Yeah.

01:01:24.300 No.

01:01:25.140 Um, oh, God.

01:01:28.880 I actually don't know.

01:01:29.980 The Rev.

01:01:31.620 Bro, I don't know.

01:01:32.640 French and Indian War.

01:01:33.800 World War II.

01:01:36.200 The Revolutionary War.

01:01:41.640 Well, you and I will never be out of work.

01:01:43.840 Never.

01:01:45.740 It's shocking.

01:01:46.840 I know. 1.00

01:01:47.300 How dumb are they? 1.00

01:01:49.820 I kind of operate on this. 1.00

01:01:51.780 level that like more people are less equipped maybe are there you might think not the listeners

01:01:57.240 to this show no of course not no no no but like like how incurious do you have to be how do you

01:02:02.800 get out of an educational system a first world educational system not knowing those basics even

01:02:08.660 in their weird world which is probably dictated by tiktok wouldn't they know it's the 250th no

01:02:13.500 why what do you mean it's everywhere i i feel like it's not i feel like it's weirdly not like i i i

01:02:19.740 i was alive and i know you were because we're a similar vintage remember in 76 yeah and it was

01:02:25.060 like a huge deal yes pots and pans i remember on the day of i remember that and i feel like it's

01:02:31.320 not as celebrated in the mainstream media because the current occupant of the white house is the

01:02:37.360 current occupant of the white house that's what i think we need to hate him and if you celebrate

01:02:40.600 250 you're celebrating trump yeah and you're you're actually it's unpatriotic you're not like

01:02:45.280 really being you're not showing fidelity you're mad at the country right now yeah yeah you're 0.97

01:02:49.100 Yeah, that's what that's ridiculous. I can't imagine. I cannot believe. First of all, they don't know that we fought a war to free ourselves from England. Hello. This is so basic. But I'll bet you they can tell you like, you know, what non-binary means. Probably, you know, that's the stuff they're learning right now. 0.92

01:03:05.420 Yeah. Yeah. No. And the other thing is, you know, the whole controversy over the UFC fight on the lawn of the White House.

01:03:13.800 Yeah. This is what I wish the conversation had been about the like all that pushback.

01:03:18.640 It's it's it's about class. It's class. Yeah, that's right.

01:03:22.560 Media elite hate it because it's what regular, hardworking, non elite coastal people are interested.

01:03:31.720 That's right. And that's right. And that's why they hate it. They hate it because Trump likes it, too, that you've got to hate anything that Trump likes. All right. Michelle Obama. She's back in the news. And did you see the portrait, the presidential portrait in the hope and change lobby? No, it's the hope in the hope and change lobby of the new presidential library. It's real. It's like actually what they're calling it. And it features the presidential portrait of the two of them with her front and center. He's the side piece in the back.

01:04:00.560 she she was the first lady not the president even though she keeps calling it our administration

01:04:05.540 when we were president you weren't president it wasn't your administration look at this look

01:04:09.780 look he looks like the supporting actor and she's got the main stage she was asked about this

01:04:18.300 and um wanted us to know this is why this is why it was done that way here she is on ms now

01:04:24.360 SOT19. And you're in the foreground. You're together there. It's not, you know, what is

01:04:31.560 often, you're not in the background. You're right there together. Well, that's because I married a

01:04:36.740 man who isn't threatened by, you know, having a smart, challenging partner. And that's also

01:04:47.520 another way to be a man you know to lead you know to lead and co-lead all at the same time

01:04:54.880 uh and to be good with it because it it gets you to a become a better person 0.98

01:05:01.560 she can't stand him oh she fucking hates him we know these are lies it's you know it's it reminds 0.93

01:05:09.740 me of barack's very famous uh foreign policy uh strategy which was lead from behind yeah that's 0.99

01:05:16.480 apparently how it goes in the marriage. We lead from behind. We sit for our presidential port.

01:05:21.240 The mind blowing thing was a couple of nights before the official opening. And they had that

01:05:26.260 big event in the presidential library. They were on stage together. Yes. And she's wearing a silk

01:05:33.260 screened custom made skirt with her dead mother's face on it. Did you see this? No. What? It was

01:05:38.980 like it was her face was like this big. It was like three feet. And she's standing there and

01:05:43.960 she's she's like this she is we are angry this is her husband's crap this is his legacy we're 1.00

01:05:50.460 enshrining here as the first black president but we're fucking angry at him our body language is 0.99

01:05:55.720 completely closed off barack's like he's like chastened he's like looking down he's definitely 0.97

01:06:00.140 afraid of her oh definitely and and she's like i i have to i have to give barack a moment here

01:06:05.520 i have to i have to give him i have to get i have to excuse him basically again he's in the doghouse

01:06:10.860 They should have built a doghouse adjacent to this presidential library.

01:06:14.440 And just it's Barack's residence.

01:06:16.300 It's his permanent residence.

01:06:18.160 And she's like, he didn't know about this skirt until I just walked on stage.

01:06:21.260 And it's my dead mother.

01:06:23.260 I mean, I'm sorry, but if you lose your mother to old age and you have had her for the bulk

01:06:28.800 of your life, you have got to move on with your life in a dignified fashion.

01:06:32.460 Yes.

01:06:32.760 Nor would I ever dream of honoring my mother by sitting on her and putting her in front

01:06:37.640 of my hoochie.

01:06:38.380 You know, like, that's, I don't think my mom would want to be honored that way.

01:06:41.040 It's a very strange, but we have to make it about ourselves.

01:06:43.960 Like, it's ostensibly about her mother, but it's really about Michelle.

01:06:46.560 We're stealing the focus.

01:06:47.580 Yes, oh, that's right.

01:06:48.460 Look at me.

01:06:49.180 That's right. 1.00

01:06:49.520 Look at my skirt.

01:06:50.560 This accessory over here, it's very Harry and Meghan, you know?

01:06:53.840 Meanwhile, she now wants us to believe that Barack's really hating all this attention,

01:06:58.680 okay?

01:06:59.240 This is, listen to this next soundbite.

01:07:00.560 This is Sot 20, People Magazine interview.

01:07:02.780 he's completely uncomfortable with this thing being about him i was like you know he would

01:07:12.000 just tell me i think there should be a little less of me here i was like well who should we

01:07:16.800 be talking about and he was like gandhi i was like no no gandhi will have his own museum i think

01:07:23.680 people coming here will want to hear about you but she's exaggerating okay this man

01:07:32.540 accepted the presidential nomination in front of greek columns at invesco field in denver colorado

01:07:40.180 like a king like a king i was there it was bigger and more grand than anything any president

01:07:48.580 including the current one has ever orchestrated for themselves as their own honor and he wants

01:07:55.100 this is the guy who was out there like we will we will clean the seas and we will clean the air

01:08:01.160 Right. He has suffered from delusions of grandeur since he was a teenager. And she actually wants us to believe that he's this humble. Oh, the presidential library that I just built as a monument skyscraper to myself should be about like Gandhi, not me. I'm uncomfortable with all the focus on me.

01:08:20.360 I was I was thinking the same thing those like fake Greek columns and the you know the adoration

01:08:26.600 like he lapped it up he loved he loved again another one who loves being famous he I think

01:08:32.720 was one of the like when he came in and um he was I think he did more interviews than a first

01:08:41.240 term president in their in their first year than anybody it was kind of like how does this guy have

01:08:45.660 time to work. He was in front of a television camera every five minutes. She also loves the

01:08:51.820 attention. She loves it. Loves the attention. Here it is. In Vescofield, look at this. 0.60

01:08:56.620 Look at this. Look at all the Greek columns behind him. I was there. It was insane. He was treated

01:09:01.600 like the second coming, truly, and ate it up. Who would approve Greek columns behind them like that? 0.99

01:09:09.060 You know what I mean? He's accomplished nothing. He'd been a state senator from Illinois. He was a

01:09:14.980 U.S. senator for two years. And he's true. He's treating himself here like he's Gandhi. The whole

01:09:20.160 rollout for his presidential campaign was like that. And now he wants us to believe, and she

01:09:25.100 does, too, that he's just this humble Joe, you know, like, gee, oh, shucks. You know, I had to

01:09:30.580 build this presidential library, but I really wish it weren't about me. OK, sure. Even Chicago,

01:09:36.480 like his native Chicago is like this. This library is a little much. It's the ugliest building I've

01:09:41.600 ever seen in my life ugly it is so unattractive and it's got like zero windows which again i find 0.92

01:09:47.480 very strange for somebody who's about transparency and light and hope and change like windows

01:09:53.600 actually are a metaphor for that kind of a thing i don't understand it i don't it's it's a blight

01:10:00.900 it's it's it's like an eyesore it's a literal eyesore what do we have debbie murphy she wants

01:10:05.520 to show us something oh the skirt she found the skirt let's see it yeah let's see michelle obama

01:10:12.320 honors her late mother by wearing a skirt oh oh my gosh is the mother's face right on the front

01:10:17.500 yeah you're there's a there's a front version you can see yeah we got to see the front version i

01:10:22.100 can't like why would you put your mother's oh my god what and look at the body language like oh

01:10:30.800 her arm is locked. There's no softness. There's like a huge gap between them. He's, he's using

01:10:36.780 his other arm. Like he's not holding her hand. It's very, he doesn't have his hand around her.

01:10:42.740 Like Doug would have his hand around my back. Nope. Look at this. He looks like a beaten dog.

01:10:47.340 Yeah. It's like, even this night cannot be about him. Wow. Well, um, looking down the line at not

01:10:54.300 his VP, but his VP's wife, Jill Biden, she's had a humiliation this week because she put out this 1.00

01:11:02.140 book. Remember, she did her little tour on it and she was like, this book is about me. Why are we

01:11:06.540 spending all this time focusing on my complaints about the Joe Biden being pushed out of the race?

01:11:10.920 It's I've got a lot of great stories in there. I'm inspirational. She literally pulled a Gayle

01:11:14.760 King. She was like, I'm inspirational. There are a lot of inspirational stories in there for women

01:11:19.020 about how I worked when I got into the White House and also was second lady. And then first

01:11:24.220 lady well she pushed that book everywhere and it made the new york times bestseller list 0.86

01:11:30.980 debuted at number one because of who she is and the number of adoring press articles she got 0.99

01:11:36.800 and she got the dagger the deadly dagger that means bulk sales you always got to look for the

01:11:44.000 dagger the bulk sales mean they bought their way onto the list that's what it means bulk sales

01:11:48.720 technically they'll try to say oh but well i well i had um you know several like events where they

01:11:53.400 bought. No, no, no. That the New York Times knows how to factor that in. Like if you had book

01:11:57.640 parties and you had a lot of books, celebrations like that, they won't necessarily give you the

01:12:01.800 dagger just for that. It's massive purchases in bulk. That's what you did, Jill Biden. That's

01:12:06.240 what's obvious. You got the dagger and it it's unheard of for you to debut at number one and

01:12:12.340 then immediately fall off the list altogether. Yes. As a first lady. No, I mean, like as that

01:12:17.340 that level public figure. But she did right off like this is all bought and paid for this packaging 1.00

01:12:25.040 around yet the Obamas and the Bidens. There's nothing inspirational about Jill Biden. Nobody

01:12:31.320 looks at her and says, like, I want to buy her book and I want to be just like her and I want

01:12:35.380 her fashion, too. I am shocked that a Biden did something that seems nefarious, potentially

01:12:43.320 unethical you know it just goes to show again like her thirst hurt her black hole too it will

01:12:51.060 never be slaked it's never enough it was forever the line on her was she's dying to be first lady

01:12:56.880 yeah she's like she's jealous of michelle she's jealous that she's got a second seat she wants

01:13:02.060 to be first lady she got it it wasn't enough that we were first lady we had to roll our husband our

01:13:07.340 infirm, dementia-addled husband out everywhere we could to try to get him a second term.

01:13:13.000 She forgot him on stage at the presidential library.

01:13:17.220 Look, remember this?

01:13:17.860 And she's walking off.

01:13:18.800 She goes off.

01:13:19.760 Barack goes off. 1.00

01:13:20.960 And her husband, she's like, I don't give a shit about him. 0.99

01:13:23.620 I already had my moment. 0.99

01:13:24.480 Look at me in this amazing white suit.

01:13:26.260 Look, grandpa's wandering.

01:13:28.420 Where?

01:13:29.100 Oh, who am I?

01:13:30.540 Where's my pudding?

01:13:31.820 Where's Matlock?

01:13:32.940 He thinks he's still president.

01:13:34.300 Are you for me?

01:13:35.960 Are you here for me?

01:13:36.500 actually wanted us to believe that he could be president right now but in any event she couldn't 0.99

01:13:40.280 give a shit she's like i i had my moment everybody looked at me grandpa's left behind she's the 0.99

01:13:45.460 living worst she's the living worst and it was so awful to see her making her rounds on like the 1.00

01:13:50.580 view or wherever and everybody's just like you are so inspirational like she's got nothing to offer

01:13:57.260 right what has she done she's a community college oh she did become a doctor dr biden again like

01:14:03.100 all of these things meant to sort of make her seem special these ornaments they mean nothing

01:14:07.340 they mean nothing she's not a doctor no she's not a doctor or she wouldn't have let her husband

01:14:12.480 develop the many ailments that he did right underneath her nose with no medical care 0.95

01:14:16.700 or so they would have us believe um speaking of elderly people poor nancy guthrie

01:14:21.920 i don't know whether we're ever going to find nancy i mean maureen o'connell came on the show

01:14:27.080 former FBI profiler, the real deal. And she said, she is 75% sure that they are closing in on

01:14:33.560 porch man. So that's exciting. I mean, I trust Maureen. That's exciting. Hope it's true. But

01:14:39.680 meanwhile, over the past 48 hours, we had this fierce war unfolding with FBI statements. To me,

01:14:46.040 it seems to be between maybe FBI, you know, Maine in DC and FBI Phoenix, which technically is all

01:14:52.980 part of the same group, but physically isn't. And they'll have their own fiefdom out there

01:14:57.860 about whether any of the ransom notes were legit. What we know from Savannah is she tends to believe

01:15:07.180 the first two were legit. And there's no question that the FBI must have led her to believe that

01:15:12.300 she's too smart. She's not coming to her own judgment about that. I mean, like she said,

01:15:15.780 account obviously had countless discussions with the FBI. I feel like if she's saying she believes

01:15:19.820 it, then that's telegraphing that her FBI contacts believe it. And Harvey Levin has been saying that

01:15:25.080 he thinks the FBI is treating at least those first two seriously. And, you know, with with as though

01:15:31.720 they may be authentic. And he believed that they might be treating the other strain of notes he

01:15:37.180 was getting from the alleged friend of the kidnappers. I've seen Nancy, you know, time is

01:15:41.020 of the essence. Oh, wait, it's no longer of the essence that he allegedly had seen her body look

01:15:45.780 south of the border that guy he says he believed that they were looking at that guy seriously too

01:15:51.760 but then we get a report from reuters whose sources are probably dc based as they are

01:15:57.260 saying the fbi doesn't believe any of the kidnapping notes are legit does not believe

01:16:02.480 any of them so all this time speculating about the one that said i know exactly what she was

01:16:07.540 wearing this is what she was wearing and i found her white uh apple watch and this is exactly where

01:16:11.820 it was on the floor and there's a broken floodlight and I want 4 million by Thursday or 6 million by

01:16:16.240 Monday or else. Then the follow up that we just heard the details of last week for the first time

01:16:21.760 she's dead. She's no longer with us. She's at peace with nature. How are they phrased it?

01:16:26.820 No, don't believe it. We've wasted our time. The FBI doesn't believe they're legit. Then we get

01:16:33.200 follow up reporting from Fox News and others saying not so fast. The FBI isn't necessarily

01:16:40.520 saying that. Don't put too much stock in the Reuters report. And then the Pima County's

01:16:46.020 sheriff's office is like, we defer to the FBI, which means nothing because now they've taken

01:16:50.300 both positions. And to me, Maureen, it's just further evidence that this case has been mismanaged

01:16:56.120 both from a public relations standpoint and apparently from an investigative standpoint

01:17:00.820 from the start. And here we are in July. In July, she went missing February 1st.

01:17:08.640 We still have no idea where she is, and they can't even get their messaging straight around something as critical as the ransom notes.

01:17:18.180 You know, there's this, I think, assumption in the culture, and we get it from TV and movies, that the FBI is all powerful, all knowing they are the finest minds.

01:17:29.640 And I know from former FBI agents who I spoke to extensively for one of my books that it's simply not so. 0.63

01:17:36.760 and the fbi is often very fallible and fucked up and this messaging this is the fbi's case now

01:17:43.440 they can't even get it straight they keep saying pima county's taking the lead which i'm sure they 0.97

01:17:47.280 would love for us that they would love that you know it and for for such a high profile case

01:17:53.580 involving such a high profile person who is back on television every weekday morning yes now the

01:18:00.460 other thing i think you were talking to maureen about this that letter which had i think you guys

01:18:05.660 were saying it it sounds like a woman wrote it yes feminine language yes like i'm sorry she's

01:18:12.860 buried with nature yes the important thing thing is there's nothing you could have done to have

01:18:17.440 prevented it and yeah she died unexpectedly yeah there there was definitely a couple churns of

01:18:23.980 phrases in there that sounded she's right feminine a female yeah which adds which adds a an interesting 0.99

01:18:29.760 dimension to this because women don't tend to commit crimes like this and we know that wasn't

01:18:35.180 a woman well we think we know on the porch yeah no that was definitely a man you know it's a

01:18:41.000 fascinating mystery i i i hope maureen is right that they're that they're close to finding they

01:18:46.560 find that guy who was on the porch then they're you know now we really have then it's ball game

01:18:51.600 yeah then we don't care about the notes it's like we got the guy who actually took her everything

01:18:55.840 stems from that it just like when that first hit those the tape of that guy on the porch it was so

01:19:01.060 hopeful maureen was actually on the air with me at the time um along with our other panelists and

01:19:05.680 everyone was so excited because it seemed like such a crazy good investigative lead even president

01:19:11.200 trump had said that the friday before like i think we're going to solve it soon because he knew about

01:19:14.540 the tape reportedly um nothing here we are july and now there's a report out that savannah may

01:19:22.320 reportedly be getting ready to take another leave from the today show that it's just been too much

01:19:28.520 And you know, you think about it, when this came up, she keeps talking about it, Maureen, in a way that is very severe. She says, we're still in agony every day. We're in agony that I just can't imagine doing the news while in agony for months on end.

01:19:47.260 so i don't know it's a tabloid who's reporting it i think i can't remember maybe the sun

01:19:52.000 um yeah u.s sun so it could be off but is it so hard to believe that it might be she has plenty

01:20:00.760 of money she doesn't need to work her husband's got a good job with the nfl and she's made a lot 0.98

01:20:03.940 of money anyway i'm not sure she's somebody who needs to see herself on tv every day i don't she 0.87

01:20:08.540 doesn't strike me as that kind of a person and um i i wouldn't be surprised at all if she did 0.97

01:20:13.660 take another step away or even just leave? I wouldn't either. I think maybe she felt 0.60

01:20:18.460 she would regain some sense of normalcy by going back to work and by not having to work,

01:20:25.920 not think about this all the time. But we've seen her just disappear from the air during the 0.94

01:20:30.980 broadcast several times, which clearly she's overcome with emotion. I don't know how you

01:20:36.860 personally square, meaning me, I couldn't. An elderly parent abducted from their bed in the

01:20:43.340 dead of night you don't know where they are but you know something very bad has happened she's

01:20:46.520 dead we know she's dead um and you think it may have happened because of you her brother was awful

01:20:52.140 for saying that to her do you remember she said i asked him do you think this was because of me

01:20:55.960 yes because i'm famous do you think and he said yeah i do that's you know i know i know you don't

01:21:02.340 say that even if you think it how do you know that how do you don't say anything say of course

01:21:07.260 there's no way to know that you can there's a million ways to answer that question so she's 0.98

01:21:11.080 blaming herself you know and uh like basically what she's doing this job is bullshit this this 1.00

01:21:18.140 is morning television is qvc yes you watch it it is a bunch of cheap shit from china order it with 1.00

01:21:23.760 the qr code carson's going to be cooking in the rotten rockefeller plaza can you can you believe 0.99

01:21:28.860 it what does she do like you have to have an existential crisis right like what am i doing 0.88

01:21:33.200 with myself it's true she should go like the john walsh route like she should disappear for a while

01:21:38.020 metabolize this come back and use her fame for good you know i know that she's always

01:21:44.960 wondered like worried about whether she's she has any relevance like any influence you know

01:21:53.460 that that job while it makes you a household name doesn't it's not meaningful at all you don't

01:21:59.280 affect people's opinions on anything you're not driving any national conversations and it's there's

01:22:04.560 something ironic and seeing, you know, now she is driving national conversations, but for a reason

01:22:10.300 she never would have chosen or wanted, no one would. Maybe you're right. Maybe there's a lane

01:22:14.440 for her to come back and like actually help people find their missing loved ones, do a show that 0.99

01:22:18.520 could impact people who are really suffering. I don't know, but you're right. The Today Show is

01:22:22.320 totally empty calories. It's not what it used to be. So I wouldn't be surprised to see her step

01:22:27.000 away, especially because like she's got two kids. Like when you lose a family member under any

01:22:32.560 circumstances. You start to think more about family and your legacy and what matters and

01:22:36.120 time is so fleeting and all that stuff. So we'll see. I don't know. I hope Maureen O'Connell

01:22:43.040 is right about what she said and that they're onto something, like they're on their way.

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01:25:59.800 Now, meanwhile, have you been watching the soccer, the World Cup?

01:26:04.500 Me neither.

01:26:04.900 but we did have on the usa game last night because of course everybody was into it my family's into

01:26:11.440 it and they apparently have now a new tradition of playing country roads at the end of the usa

01:26:21.560 soccer games they did this in the earlier rounds too and now they did it last night in amazing tape

01:26:27.120 i guess they've asked the team for a couple of go-to songs they ask all the teams um not just

01:26:32.940 us. Like what would be your song that you'd want to hear? And these people are straight out of my

01:26:36.620 playbook, John Denver and John Bon Jovi, not just John Bon Jovi, but Bon Jovi living on a prayer

01:26:41.460 is our one song and a country roses are other. And then we actually had apparently requested

01:26:46.700 sweet Caroline, but, uh, that was already taken by the, by the Brits, which is weird. Okay. But

01:26:51.120 okay. In any event, we have two great ones and look, look at this tape.

01:27:02.940 And the players, trying to get everybody to do it, say turn it up, got a little chill.

01:27:29.940 oh man i love this stuff love it's so it's it's it's sports at its best it's unifying it's you

01:27:45.600 know people from all walks of life it's why it's why the knicks were so galvanizing and energizing

01:27:51.280 and it also makes me think i feel like there is this renewed appreciation now between athletes

01:27:58.180 performers anyone in a live event and the fans in the crowd because we saw this during covid

01:28:03.940 when they would allow sports to continue but there could be no audience no crowd no fans

01:28:10.480 and i think everybody kind of realized that is that is a mutually beneficial relationship yeah

01:28:17.120 it's not that the fans are there in service of the performer or the players it it's a like the

01:28:23.880 players feed off that stuff they feed off of it and when you see those players on the field after

01:28:29.180 the win raising their arms going yes yes keep singing we're in this together like that's what

01:28:34.200 that is it's so great i feel like if we have a national soundtrack like for america john denver

01:28:40.620 is at the top of the list he he has such a important role in my own life like really oh my

01:28:46.400 god his music i cannot hear john denver music without tearing up really oh i never have been

01:28:50.760 able to. My dad used to play John Denver songs on his guitar. We'd go camping when I was a kid.

01:28:56.080 And it is a reminder that like, you know, I've had no money and I've had money.

01:28:59.980 All the best things in life come for free. It's the truth. And we'd go to Lake Ontario

01:29:06.400 and we'd rent these cabins, these like beat up cabins, which were not in any way a glamp.

01:29:13.180 I used to call the lawn chair to sleep in. Oh, I love that. My brother and sister are like,

01:29:18.220 okay she got it and um we we'd go out around the campfire at night and my dad would play his guitar

01:29:26.140 and he'd play Neil Diamond too but mostly John Denver songs and it that it Country Roads 100%

01:29:32.940 also that song Today which brings me to tears whenever I hear it and I think about my dad

01:29:37.940 whenever I hear and then can I tell you after my sister died a couple of years ago suddenly

01:29:42.960 i got into the car the day of her funeral and of course it was an emotionally charged day already

01:29:48.840 and i when you turn the car on and the radio comes on john denver and she and i used to cry

01:29:55.580 about my dad listening to john denver and we had so many sweet memories to john denver

01:29:59.520 and there is no doubt in my mind that was my sister talking to me like saying i'm okay and

01:30:04.080 you're gonna be okay too i just like so for this song to be the song that our team chooses like i

01:30:09.680 just feel like yes and jimmy um fallon once told me that his wife feels about john denver the way

01:30:16.300 i do really and she can't like she can't hear it without crying but she has to hear it like we

01:30:21.340 force ourselves like rocky mountain high like that is a spiritual song you you feel connected to god

01:30:29.600 when you play that song outside in nature i just love that our team was asked to do this i love

01:30:34.900 that they're leaning into the music.

01:30:37.740 Richie Sambora, back to Bon Jovi,

01:30:39.560 he has a song that he wrote

01:30:40.780 called The Soundtrack of Our Lives.

01:30:42.980 And I just love the concept of that phrase.

01:30:47.860 We do have a soundtrack of our lives.

01:30:50.000 You know how you can hear a song

01:30:51.140 that takes you right back to your childhood

01:30:52.700 or a breakup or your, I don't know,

01:30:56.400 a relationship or something with your parents,

01:30:58.920 something with a friend,

01:31:00.400 some accomplishments, some disappointment, whatever.

01:31:03.840 Oh, look at that.

01:31:04.480 That's my, that's me and my dad with his guitar and his fisherman's hat.

01:31:09.900 How old are you there?

01:31:10.800 Like four?

01:31:11.380 Yeah.

01:31:11.600 I think I was about four years old. 1.00

01:31:13.340 Look at those sweet duds. 1.00

01:31:14.500 I had. 1.00

01:31:14.800 You were a tomboy.

01:31:15.720 You totally saw me.

01:31:16.640 Look at the boy hair.

01:31:18.140 I used to have long, pretty hair.

01:31:20.960 And then my sister did too.

01:31:22.340 And she got hers cut. 0.69

01:31:23.520 So I wanted mine cut and I completely looked like a boy, which I had no problem with. 0.65

01:31:28.720 I was like, I don't care.

01:31:30.420 I thought I looked cool.

01:31:32.960 Yeah, I'm four.

01:31:33.640 I don't care.

01:31:34.480 Um, but yeah, the soundtrack of our life, right? Like, even as I say, aren't songs coming to your

01:31:39.880 mind? Yes. And they actually say that, um, there's a reason as we age that it's harder for us to hear

01:31:45.740 new music. Like we, our brains actually are, are so alive in our teen, our childhoods, our teen

01:31:53.620 years, our post-collegiate years. And that's when, that's why generations sort of get stuck

01:31:59.080 in their, their, the music of their youth, right? Like nothing is better than the music of your

01:32:03.820 youth it's like it's like a neurological thing that's why i'm always listening to the 80s channel

01:32:08.340 on sirius xm same or like the new wave channel or the hip-hop channel like all of it it's like

01:32:13.180 it's yeah you're exactly right i couldn't agree with you more well um i'm not sure what the song

01:32:18.720 would be for harry and megan but it'd be something about me back to me they're going to the uk maureen

01:32:26.900 and they're taking a lily bat and archie which to me is an obvious attention ploy i don't like

01:32:32.960 They travel the world without these kids.

01:32:34.920 They have no desire to spend time with them over in the UK or any place else from the look of it.

01:32:40.260 But they'll get more attention when they go back there if they bring the little prince and princess,

01:32:45.920 who have zero connection to the royal family.

01:32:48.160 Queen Elizabeth was annoyed, was named after her. 0.99

01:32:50.560 She didn't like the Lilibet thing, so whatever.

01:32:53.080 And now there's a report today that Prince Harry was near tears when he found out that the board over there,

01:33:00.820 or the RAV, whatever, it's like the royal board

01:33:03.760 that determines whether you're going to get

01:33:05.580 royal police protection, like state police protection.

01:33:09.980 Like, in other words, for Princess Eugenie, it's a no.

01:33:14.040 But for King Charles, it's a yes.

01:33:16.540 For Wills and Kate, of course, it's a yes. 0.98

01:33:19.240 But for these two losers from Montecito, it's a no. 0.93

01:33:22.860 And he's near tears, reportedly, over this, Prince Harry. 0.99

01:33:26.960 He keeps coming back to the well.

01:33:28.900 This has been denied repeatedly.

01:33:30.820 even when he was a lot closer to the royal family.

01:33:33.100 He got denied this.

01:33:34.040 He's not a working royal.

01:33:35.840 No one can explain it better than our pal Dan Wooden,

01:33:38.680 who came on the last time he made a big deal out of this

01:33:40.980 and explained to us the situation, okay?

01:33:43.580 Listen to Dan.

01:33:44.740 He wants to be treated like a former prime minister

01:33:47.620 who will receive lifetime security rights. 0.69

01:33:52.340 So even Liz Trash, 1.00

01:33:53.180 she was prime minister for six weeks. 1.00

01:33:55.820 She receives security for the rest of her life.

01:33:58.100 He believes that that's what he deserves.

01:34:01.800 Now, Meghan, in the negotiations after Meg said,

01:34:05.180 at this thing called the Sandringham Summit,

01:34:07.940 where all of the senior royals, the late Queen Elizabeth II,

01:34:11.380 King Charles William, and their senior staff gathered,

01:34:14.800 Harry was told, point blank,

01:34:17.660 you will lose your security if you leave in this way.

01:34:22.020 Yes, that is why the royals tried to come to some type of arrangement with Harry.

01:34:26.240 there were loads of ideas thrown around. At one point, it was like, could we maybe move you to

01:34:31.920 South Africa, a Commonwealth country for six months of the year? What about making you the

01:34:36.120 governor general of Australia? Is there some type of role for you in Canada? But as soon as Meghan

01:34:41.600 Markle made it absolutely clear that it was all about the moolah, it was all about the big bucks,

01:34:46.400 it was all about trading off the royal name. At that point, the late Queen Elizabeth II,

01:34:50.660 quite rightly in my opinion said no there is no half in half out so you can go you go without

01:34:58.000 blessing but you lose everything and you do lose your security and he went on to explain that 0.96

01:35:04.600 they've been invited as they reportedly have even now to stay in buckingham palace where you do have

01:35:11.260 drivers you have guards famously outside the entire castle and when you drive around great

01:35:17.380 britain you you're entitled to have your private security with you harry's mad i think because

01:35:22.260 you're not allowed to have guns i think the private security can't have guns but honestly like

01:35:27.340 you don't need that you he doesn't need people aren't going to be taking random shots at him

01:35:32.240 when was the last time you heard about somebody taking random shots at the royal family while

01:35:36.880 driving around great britain you need a bodyguard you need somebody to stop to stop somebody from

01:35:42.800 coming and accosting you or getting overly zealous when they see you and he will have that in

01:35:48.400 abundance so just as we come to air it it his people release some he's under threat from at

01:35:57.320 least six terror plots in the uk very important very important person and dan wouldn't is he 0.62

01:36:04.640 responded like this is the most ridiculous artificial made-up document it comes from

01:36:10.420 harry's office it's like someone's been searching their emails to find like some i'll get you ah 0.96

01:36:17.340 another terrorist plot against me terrorist number one is named george glass right

01:36:22.240 that's right bomb making in the basement the imaginary basement it's so it's so you know it's

01:36:30.600 um their brand is chaos nothing is ever just a straightforward execution a visit you know

01:36:38.540 Whatever. There have been conflicting reports now that Megan may not be going.

01:36:41.940 She's not happy. She may not be taking the children.

01:36:44.260 I think part of the reason they want to take the children is so that they can say mean future King William would not see his own niece and nephew.

01:36:52.480 They are of the royal blood.

01:36:54.500 William and Kate are cold blooded, unfeeling people.

01:36:59.220 um there are also reports that harry wants to stay at althorpe which is diana's home and resting

01:37:08.480 place and that they are potentially coming with cameras oh for another netflix but this is all

01:37:14.260 about another net we have to extend the netflix deal which was canceled because they're fed up

01:37:17.820 the only thing that rated it's the only thing they've got um i think charles is um obviously

01:37:23.740 he will probably meet with with harry given his health which we understand is now he's in in very

01:37:30.200 good health he's taking a treatment that's working great um but you know nonetheless he's an older

01:37:36.300 man who's been dealing with mortality up close i think it's foolish i think they're going to turn

01:37:41.660 right around and do what they always do sell sell sell yep poor william and katherine have to deal 0.75

01:37:49.080 with these two losers coming back over glomming on without doing any of the work they've been

01:37:54.960 doing the work they've been doing the ribbon cuttings they go to the events and these two 0.98

01:37:58.740 losers want to bomb in get all this attention get royal protection so they can look and feel 0.92

01:38:03.760 important and then go back to their montecito millions and make more by ripping on the royal 0.95

01:38:09.920 family exactly that's their favorite target exactly and i really do i i think about william

01:38:15.920 you know and katherine they both do the heart you know katherine just completed this arduous three

01:38:20.820 day climb it was too it was she said when she was done with it she did it for personal reasons you

01:38:27.480 know because she was through the worst of her cancer fight and her chemotherapy and she's so

01:38:31.960 grateful to be alive and and she met with a child who's still dealing with it and made it you know

01:38:37.860 all of this stuff they're the real deal and they do the work the punishment they get is having these

01:38:43.360 two still entertained by their father. You know, it's, it's a very, it's biblical. It's very Cain

01:38:49.100 and Abel, you know, where it's like, and I think a lot of families relate to this dynamic where the 0.97

01:38:53.700 fuck up takes up all the oxygen in the room. Yes. Right. The fuck up gets a million and one 0.97

01:38:59.400 chances, no matter how many times they screw up, betray, lie, cheat, whatever. Yes. And the, 1.00

01:39:06.180 and the dutiful ones are sort of just taken for granted. Well, you're good. You just do what you're

01:39:10.740 supposed to and taken advantage of you're right because they're half the purpose of this will be

01:39:15.060 to gain more fodder for their next netflix special and no one's more interesting than

01:39:20.580 wills and kate like nobody and so they'd love to get any sort of dirt they can on his brother

01:39:26.200 and his wife and i'm sure they are like dad please could you stop yeah close the door once and for

01:39:33.380 all but william reportedly can't convince king charles to do it because he's the dad you know

01:39:37.400 the parent is always a little tougher to convince to do the tough love than

01:39:41.280 the siblings.

01:39:42.280 But I feel bad for them.

01:39:43.440 Here's the,

01:39:44.320 for them,

01:39:44.880 Will,

01:39:45.100 Wills and Kate,

01:39:45.700 not,

01:39:45.900 not Harry.

01:39:47.380 There's,

01:39:47.940 this is a report.

01:39:48.500 Prince,

01:39:48.800 Prince Harry faces six terrorist plots against him with five originating

01:39:54.120 within the United Kingdom,

01:39:55.800 according to a highly sensitive document produced by the Duke of Sussex

01:40:00.100 private security company.

01:40:04.180 It's very exciting.

01:40:05.460 Very exciting.

01:40:06.420 Sure.

01:40:06.520 people really want to get you. We're, we're sure of it. Um, sure. I got to ask you about Sophie

01:40:11.600 Cunningham. She's a basketball player. She's on the same team. The fever, the Indiana fever is 1.00

01:40:17.280 Caitlin Clark. She went totally viral this week because she's like the only one sticking up for 0.99

01:40:23.480 Caitlin Clark. Even Caitlin Clark doesn't stick up for Caitlin Clark. Caitlin's coach doesn't 0.75

01:40:28.280 stand up for her. The WNBA commissioner doesn't stand up for her, but this Sophie Cunningham, 1.00

01:40:33.440 who's a star in her own right like it was a huge college basketball player and has been in the wmba 1.00

01:40:38.180 for years has had this she's had it with this bullshit she happens to be white and she mixes 0.98

01:40:45.100 it up with everybody she can't stand what's happening to caitlin clark so she went viral 0.99

01:40:49.100 this week because she did this pointing thing maybe you've seen it and then with the wrist

01:40:53.560 let's watch it it's everywhere she she's pointing and she will not be stood down 0.99

01:41:01.360 You can see that the ref, there's the other gal pointing at her and she will get the last point. 1.00

01:41:09.020 She's got an arm as long as my leg. 1.00

01:41:11.480 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:41:13.360 And they try to push her back.

01:41:15.260 She won't break stride or pointing.

01:41:19.540 And the memes that have now come out of this are hysterical.

01:41:24.580 There was one I saw yesterday showing Justice Thomas pointing at the other court.

01:41:30.100 then there's one that says um something about like your toddler in the grocery store whenever

01:41:35.800 you see somebody with a disability oh my god it's so real oh my god right oh my god um that

01:41:44.540 by the way that pointing i think that was in response that player had said to sophie i believe 0.79

01:41:49.260 don't point at me yeah and so she was like i'm gonna fucking point at you yeah sure now i know 0.86

01:41:53.720 what bothered you? I, you know, the Caitlin Clark thing, I am so, it's so upsetting. I think it was 0.71

01:42:00.660 Dave Portnoy who said something like she should just really take herself and go over to Europe

01:42:04.920 and play where she's going to be protected and treated like the star that she is. Yes. You know, 0.86

01:42:09.640 it's, it's amazing to me that the WNBA has been electrified by this generational talent

01:42:16.460 who is being assaulted on the court regularly by players who are, this is the conversation that

01:42:24.960 like, again, the mainstream media really won't have. She's white and she's straight. That's the

01:42:29.380 problem. If this were a black player or a black and gay player, they would be celebrating her. 1.00

01:42:37.260 She would be, you know what I mean? Yeah, they think it's a betrayal somehow. 0.80

01:42:40.840 They're punishing her. They're punishing her. And I feel like, you know, you were saying that

01:42:45.000 she's she won't stand up for herself i feel like she and or her advisors are trying to sort of take

01:42:50.720 a page out of like the jackie robinson playbook where you you just comport yourself like a

01:42:56.100 professional you don't get down in the mud with it you let your talent speak for yourself and it

01:43:01.100 will be later when it's reconsidered history that we talk about what was really going on here but

01:43:06.660 this is mind-blowing to me mind-blowing what's happening to her coach is disgusting too i don't

01:43:12.540 know like they can't stand each other jason whitlock came on last friday and really gave us

01:43:15.720 a good breakdown of that dynamic but the coach is disgusting and the coach finally spoke out

01:43:20.740 and what did she speak about she spoke about the alleged abuse that the woman who had the hand on

01:43:26.920 the throat is receiving she's she's outraged at the messaging going to that person it's not about

01:43:32.840 what happened to caitlin clark at any turn i don't know how she lasts there this does not look fun

01:43:37.160 it does not look rewarding it does not look like something i'd want to be a part of at all and i

01:43:41.700 like dave portnoy's advice i think he's on to something happy fourth my friend happy fourth

01:43:47.180 wonderful independence day and so should all of you we will have uh programming for you tomorrow

01:43:54.080 but we're not live so i will speak to you live next time on monday wishing all of you happy

01:43:59.340 fourth god bless you and your families and thank you so much as always for listening

01:44:03.020 thanks for listening to the megan kelly show no bs no agenda and no fear

01:44:11.700 Thank you.

The Megyn Kelly Show - July 02, 2026

Taylor Swift's ＂Big Fat Disney Wedding,＂ Prince Harry's UK Plot, and Nancy Guthrie Ransom Note Debate, with Maureen Callahan ｜ Ep. 1352

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