The Megyn Kelly Show - August 22, 2026


The Beltway Snipers: The Last Shot — Ep. 5 | MK Confidential


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00:01:05.440 crossing a grocery store parking lot in Wheaton, Maryland, when the country learns the word
00:01:10.420 sniper. Montgomery, Alabama, closing time on Zelda Road outside a liquor store. Two women
00:01:18.140 are locking up. Claudine Parker is 52. She is the store's business manager, and she is in her last
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00:01:39.280 hear anything. She will describe it as being electrocuted. A single rifle round comes in
00:01:45.880 under her jaw from the left, goes through, and shatters the window beside the door.
00:01:51.460 She goes down.
00:01:53.240 Claudine Parker backs away, and for a moment, one of the store's pillars stands between her and the shooter.
00:01:59.340 Then she backs out from behind it, and she is shot through the shoulder blade and does not move again.
00:02:05.880 Kelly Adams tells police what she can see from the ground.
00:02:09.080 Thin, black legs, shorts, somebody standing over her, pointing a small silver revolver at her head.
00:02:16.700 And then the person just turns and runs off.
00:02:20.360 Two Montgomery patrol officers on a routine patrol are close enough to hear the shots.
00:02:25.900 They pull in and see a young black man with a medium afro behind the pillar going through a purse.
00:02:32.120 The young man runs. One officer stays with the women.
00:02:36.340 The other goes after him, chasing him over a fence and then another and loses him.
00:02:41.540 And somewhere in that chase, the runner drops something.
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00:02:49.440 Two detectives bag it anyway. It's a catalog, a paper magazine full of rifle accessories from a
00:02:56.960 company called Armalite. Claudine Parker will never coach at Alabama State. She dies in surgery about
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00:03:20.320 all from the same person. Montgomery PD runs them locally, then through the state system,
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00:03:31.840 handled the catalog has never been arrested as an adult. For a month, the answer to the DC sniper
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00:04:51.280 2002, Malvo and Muhammad have been trying for days to get police to take them seriously.
00:04:57.220 Hotline operators screen them out.
00:04:59.460 Calls drop.
00:05:00.800 People were not listening to us, Malvo says later.
00:05:04.160 So they offer proof.
00:05:06.340 A crime only the men doing the shooting could know about.
00:05:09.320 They pick Alabama because they believe it is safe.
00:05:13.480 As far as they know, the police in Montgomery have nothing.
00:05:17.400 The next call comes with something in it that only the killers could know.
00:05:21.560 A call comes into police headquarters in Rockville, Maryland,
00:05:24.560 and gets transferred to an officer named Derek Beliles.
00:05:29.460 Shut up and listen, the caller says, and don't ask any questions. 0.91
00:05:33.780 The caller, almost certainly Malvo, 0.99
00:05:36.600 says he knows who is responsible for the recent D.C. area shootings,
00:05:40.560 but first he wants Beliles to verify something.
00:05:44.140 Call the police in Montgomery, Alabama, he says.
00:05:47.460 Ask about a liquor store holdup on Ann Street
00:05:49.880 back in September where two women were shot.
00:05:53.700 James Fitzgerald, the FBI forensic linguist from Episode 4, has spent two weeks studying these men.
00:06:00.760 The fact that they had to brag about that they killed someone in Montgomery, Alabama, that was a real big clue.
00:06:08.840 And we contacted the Montgomery, Alabama PD.
00:06:12.100 They even told us, this is one of the phone calls, well, if you don't think we're legit,
00:06:15.780 they already killed six people on one day, on October 2nd.
00:06:18.380 But they somehow still had to, and this is mostly John Muhammad, again, the adult, they had to sort of brag about things.
00:06:24.760 Well, we robbed a liquor store in Montgomery, Alabama. You know, check that out.
00:06:29.180 Beliles makes the call.
00:06:31.720 Four hours later, the killers reach a priest in Ashland, Virginia, and tell him the same thing.
00:06:37.980 And when the letter they leave in the woods behind the Ponderosa is finally read, it complains about an officer named Derek and about a priest.
00:06:47.840 Two calls, both pointing at the same town.
00:06:51.540 The tell that the caller was actually at the physical location is a street name.
00:06:57.200 Their shooting didn't happen on Ann Street, as the caller claimed.
00:07:00.560 It happened on Zelda Road.
00:07:02.820 Ann Street is the exit off the interstate a block away.
00:07:06.280 The lieutenant who worked that case, Michael Merrick,
00:07:09.680 says nobody who lives in Montgomery would ever call it an Ann Street shooting.
00:07:14.860 Someone who came off the highway would.
00:07:18.120 So a Montgomery County, Maryland police commander named Drew Tracy
00:07:21.880 gets an Alabama detective on the phone and asks the obvious question.
00:07:26.700 Is there anything that could help us?
00:07:28.940 He says, the only thing we have is a magazine.
00:07:31.880 And I said, a magazine? You mean magazine from a weapon?
00:07:36.240 He goes, a paper magazine.
00:07:38.940 And he says, and this is where it went, clicked with me just like that.
00:07:42.800 and I said, oh my God, we might have something here. The prints off that catalog cannot be
00:07:47.860 transmitted electronically. In 2002, Alabama is one of many states not wired into the FBI's
00:07:54.360 National Fingerprint Database, so somebody has to carry the prints by hand. On Monday, October 21st,
00:08:01.620 an FBI agent from Alabama carries them onto a plane to Washington, D.C., along with the bullet
00:08:07.720 fragments. When an examiner runs the Alabama prints through the federal fingerprint system,
00:08:13.600 a name comes back. Here's FBI Supervisory Special Agent Linda Hooper to the Monster
00:08:19.640 DC Sniper podcast. And that print was for Lee Boyd Malveaux, and he was 17 years old.
00:08:27.780 Ten months earlier in Washington state, the Jamaican teenager was picked up as an illegal
00:08:33.760 immigrant and fingerprinted by Border Patrol. The print gives them the boy. And as Fitz told me,
00:08:41.440 once they had the boy, they had the man too. They took him to the FBI. They ran him across the whole,
00:08:47.640 the whole, you know, spectrum of fingerprints. And they found immigration fingerprints from
00:08:52.720 Lee Boyd Malvo, who was like 15, 16 when he came to this country from Jamaica. And they wound up
00:08:58.200 contacting whoever knew him. Oh, he's with this guy named John Muhammad. That same morning,
00:09:03.340 across the country in Tacoma, Washington, investigators finally knock on Robert Holmes'
00:09:09.300 door. Holmes is Muhammad's old army friend who has spent a week trying to get someone at the FBI
00:09:15.260 to take him seriously. About his friend John. About the Bushmaster. About the boy John called
00:09:22.560 his little sniper. Now someone does. By Wednesday, October 23rd, the task force has two names. A
00:09:32.180 photograph off a California driver's license and a car. A 1990 Chevrolet Caprice, dark blue
00:09:40.320 New Jersey plates, NDA-21Z. That plate has been run through police computers repeatedly over the
00:09:49.280 prior three weeks and handed back clean every single time. At 10 minutes to midnight on Wednesday,
00:09:56.580 police chief Charles Moose steps up to the microphones and announces a federal arrest
00:10:01.780 warrant for John Allen Muhammad on a firearms charge. He is careful. He says the charge has
00:10:08.920 nothing to do with the shootings, that Muhammad may be traveling with an unnamed juvenile. He does
00:10:15.420 not give out the plate number. He doesn't have to. It has been on television for an hour already,
00:10:21.680 leaked out of police radio traffic and running across the bottom of TV screens
00:10:25.760 across the country. Maryland State Police Lieutenant David Reichenbaugh is out distributing
00:10:31.360 wanted posters when word comes over the radio that the Chevy Caprice has been found. It's at
00:10:37.860 the South Mountain Westbound Welcome Center rest area on Interstate 70 in Western Maryland right
00:10:44.520 near South Mountain State Park. Reichenbaugh is 35 miles out and he is about to be the highest
00:10:51.440 ranking officer on that scene. He gets his duty officer at the Maryland State Police Barracks in
00:10:57.340 Frederick on the radio and asks how many troopers he has. Two, says the sergeant, maybe one or two
00:11:05.100 more out of Hagerstown. Send everyone you've got, Reichenbaugh says. Have them meet me at the
00:11:11.320 entrance to the rest area and tell them to come in silent. He gets there with three men, two troopers
00:11:17.880 and one sheriff's deputy. They are armed with handguns and a shotgun against a rifle that
00:11:24.140 goes through body armor. He decides the four of them cannot rush that car, so he seals the car
00:11:30.420 in instead. He shuts down I-70 in both directions, telling drivers there has been a bad accident.
00:11:38.160 He posts a canine handler with orders to treat anyone who walks out of that rest area as the
00:11:43.540 sniper. He blocks the entrance ramp with a patrol car. Then he goes looking for something bigger
00:11:49.420 to put across that exit. We had a couple of truck drivers start to come out to leave,
00:11:55.020 and I asked them if they wanted to be good Americans. And it was like, well, yeah, troop,
00:11:59.900 what do you need? I said, well, we got the snipers in the rest area. I said, can you throw your truck
00:12:05.140 across this exit so that that car cannot get out of here? Reichenbach calls a friend in the Secret
00:12:11.520 service, and 30 seconds later, by presidential authority, the airspace over Frederick County
00:12:17.320 is closed to news helicopters. Inside the Caprice, Muhammad is asleep across the back seat.
00:12:25.300 Malvo is in the front, his head down by the steering wheel. He is supposed to be keeping
00:12:30.700 watch. Asked later why he thinks they were caught, he tells his interrogators it was his own laziness,
00:12:37.900 his lack of discipline, that he departed from something he knew worked, he says, for five
00:12:43.980 minutes of pleasure, for five minutes of sleep. By 3.30 a.m., a 19-man tactical team has assembled
00:12:53.160 at the bottom of the wooded hill behind the rest stop. County officers, state troopers,
00:12:58.620 and FBI hostage rescue operators. Six of them will approach the car. They rehearse it once
00:13:04.880 in a McDonald's parking lot down the road. Then they come up through the trees and stop at two
00:13:10.840 oaks 20 yards out. After three weeks of false alarms, not one man in that tree line is certain
00:13:17.980 there is anyone in this car at all. The team leader holds up three fingers and counts down.
00:13:25.460 Three, two, one. They cross the open ground, take out the driver's front window and the passenger
00:13:33.480 rear window with spring-loaded batons and light up the inside of the car with the lights on their
00:13:39.120 weapons. FBI, police, hands up. Malvos pulled out the front door. Muhammad sits up in the back with
00:13:47.980 his hands raised and is taken out the other side. A trooper covers the trunk while another gets the
00:13:53.540 keys because nobody knows what is in there. Clear. It takes about 30 seconds. Nobody fires a shot.
00:14:03.300 Drew Tracy, the Montgomery County commander who helped assemble the assault team, is standing by the tree line.
00:14:09.760 And I start walking from the wood line.
00:14:11.840 I see like a glistening of like light.
00:14:16.820 And when I look down, the glistening was Malvo.
00:14:20.660 Malvo was on the ground, face down, handcuffed.
00:14:24.860 And what happened is when they breached the tempered windows, the glass got in his hair and it hit the light.
00:14:32.500 and he didn't say one word. Malvo is five foot five. Reichenbaugh, standing over him on the
00:14:39.580 pavement, writes later what went through his head. Christ, he's just a kid. Muhammad is shaking so
00:14:47.200 badly a trooper has to hold him still to get the cuffs on. They put the two of them in separate
00:14:52.460 cars and drive them off the mountain to a state police barracks. Fitz is asleep in Maryland when
00:14:57.860 the phone rings. He was arrested at 3.30 in the morning, and I get a call. I was staying up in
00:15:03.140 Maryland then, and they said, hey, can you go to a state police barracks? They arrested the two
00:15:07.040 snipers. I'll be there. So this is before GPS. I had to map my way there on my own, which I got
00:15:12.560 there, and I walk into this dark state police barracks, kind of in the middle of nowhere,
00:15:17.080 not a big building, a couple marked cars out there, and then one or two others, no media, 0.77
00:15:21.560 which was a good sign. He knocks. He shows his credentials. They buzz me in the first door, 0.98
00:15:27.240 buzzed me in the second door, and it's all dark. It's like a one-story building.
00:15:32.200 And I looked down the hallway about 30 feet ahead of me. There's a state trooper in uniform running
00:15:37.420 full speed, you know, left to right. What the hell? So I didn't pull my gun out. I know there's 0.93
00:15:43.660 other officers around, but my hand is on my gun. And next thing you know, there's another trooper
00:15:48.280 closer to me, another hallway. He's running right to left looking for something. And I finally see
00:15:54.260 a trooper comes up to him. I said, FBI, what's going on? The kid escaped.
00:15:58.820 The manhunt has been officially over for a couple of hours.
00:16:02.800 Next time you hear a big bang on the ground, we got him. He's over here.
00:16:07.700 And it turns out they put Malvo in a room. He may have been handcuffed in front, which you never do,
00:16:13.960 always behind. And they didn't handcuff him to the bar on the wall. And somehow he used that bar,
00:16:18.960 climbed up into the ceiling, and he actually crawled about 50 feet over the drop ceiling
00:16:26.520 until finally he reached a weak spot and fell down on the ground. He was fine. But they got
00:16:31.320 him up, handcuffed him again, put him in the room, and he never escaped again.
00:16:36.700 Back on the mountain, nobody can search the car without a warrant. It is finally signed
00:16:41.440 at 5.55 in the morning. When they get inside, an FBI SWAT leader notices the back seat
00:16:47.440 looks wrong. The cushion has been altered so it swings up at the top like a hatch. They lift it.
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00:18:16.880 The bipod is folded under the barrel, and there is a live round in the chamber.
00:18:22.100 An ATF ballistics man puts on gloves and clears the weapon.
00:18:26.360 And I'll never forget, as long as I live, the noise of when the lab guy cocked that
00:18:33.120 round out of that rifle, and seeing it spinning around in a circle in the air,
00:18:38.120 and the tinkle that it made when it hit the parking lot.
00:18:42.120 Later that day, the ATF's chief firearms examiner
00:18:44.900 test fires the Bushmaster into a water tank
00:18:47.640 and puts the recovered bullets under a microscope
00:18:50.220 beside the fragments taken out of the victims.
00:18:54.300 It matches 11 of the 14 shooting scenes in the region.
00:18:59.260 One person is not watching any of it from home.
00:19:03.340 The evening before the arrest,
00:19:04.800 ATF agents knock on a door on Quiet Brook Lane in Clinton, Maryland, and ask Mildred Muhammad
00:19:11.920 to come down to the police station and answer some questions. Here is Mildred. 0.91
00:19:17.520 The way I found out that it was John was when ATF knocked on my door and said that they were gonna
00:19:24.720 name John as the sniper. And so they asked me, well, do you think that he would do something
00:19:31.680 like this and i was like well i don't yeah i said well why would you think that i said well
00:19:39.360 he said he could take a small city terrorize it they would think it would be a group of people
00:19:44.720 and it would only be me she has watched the same coverage as everyone else for three weeks two of
00:19:51.200 the shootings happened within a few miles of her own home mildred muhammad and her three children
00:19:57.280 are moved into protective custody that night to a hotel her sister and brother-in-law go to.
00:20:03.320 She gets the children to sleep, then she goes into the bathroom and turns on the water so they 0.95
00:20:08.820 will not hear her. She sits down on the floor with a pillow and sobs into it. What Mildred
00:20:15.520 Muhammad believes and has said publicly and consistently ever since is that she was the
00:20:21.620 point of all of it, that he came to Washington to kill her and needed her death to look random
00:20:28.100 so that he could collect his children. No court has ever ruled on that. Prosecutors did not have
00:20:34.540 to prove why he did it. Afterward, Mildred tells A&E, people who find out who she is tell her
00:20:41.740 it is her fault. At that time, they told me that... You should have seen it coming or... No,
00:20:48.660 If I would have stayed with him, then he just would have killed me.
00:20:51.160 If I would have stayed on the West Coast, then the people on the East Coast would still be alive.
00:20:57.300 How dare I bring this drama into a quiet community?
00:21:01.520 And how dare I call me and my children victims when neither of us were killed?
00:21:06.760 I was blamed because they couldn't get to John.
00:21:09.600 Now comes the question of who gets to put Malvo and Mohamed on trial.
00:21:14.880 Montgomery County, Maryland wants the case.
00:21:16.980 So do two federal prosecutors' offices and the Virginia counties where people were shot.
00:21:22.820 Six of the ten dead are Maryland's.
00:21:25.580 On November 7, 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft sends both men to Virginia.
00:21:31.960 The first prosecutions, he says, should go where the law and the facts are best and the toughest sentences are available.
00:21:39.700 In Maryland, a defendant who is under 18 at the time he committed the murder cannot be sentenced to death.
00:21:45.920 Same for federal court, but in Virginia in 2002, the floor is 16.
00:21:52.800 Muhammad will be tried in Prince William County for the murder of Dean Myers,
00:21:57.440 Malvo in Fairfax County for Linda Franklin.
00:22:00.980 Both trials are moved to the far southeastern corner of the state
00:22:04.320 because the defense argued that no one near Washington could possibly sit on that jury with fairness.
00:22:11.680 John Muhammad's trial opens in Virginia Beach in October 2003.
00:22:17.320 On the first morning, he takes the case away from his lawyers and tells the judge he will represent himself.
00:22:24.020 His argument to the jury is one simple question.
00:22:27.300 Whoever saw him fire a rifle?
00:22:30.180 Nobody. 0.62
00:22:31.220 No witness in the case puts the weapon in Muhammad's hands.
00:22:35.480 Then he begins cross-examining victims of the attacks.
00:22:39.180 Among them, Paul LaRuffa,
00:22:41.640 shot five times in his own car outside his restaurant in Clinton, Maryland,
00:22:45.900 in the robbery that paid for that Chevy Caprice.
00:22:49.160 So, talk about crazy circumstances and weird events in your life.
00:22:55.520 I was being questioned by the guy who tried to kill me.
00:22:59.220 He wasn't the guy that pulled the trigger, but he was the brains behind it.
00:23:02.540 After two days, Mohamed hands the case back to his attorneys.
00:23:07.220 The prosecution's answer is that it does not matter whose finger was on the trigger.
00:23:12.580 Virginia charges Mohammed under an anti-terrorism law written after September 11th,
00:23:17.680 which requires only that a jury find the killing was part of an act intended to intimidate a civilian population.
00:23:25.340 On November 17th, 2003, the jury convicts him on all counts.
00:23:31.320 A week later, the same jury recommends death.
00:23:34.860 Months later, the judge accepts the recommendation and formally sentences Muhammad to die.
00:23:42.020 Lee Malvo's trial runs at the same time, an hour down the road in Chesapeake, Virginia.
00:23:47.400 He pleads not guilty, and his lawyers give notice that they will argue insanity,
00:23:53.360 that Muhammad indoctrinated him so completely he could not tell right from wrong.
00:23:59.240 One lawyer puts it more plainly later.
00:24:01.320 The whole point was to keep Malvo off of death row.
00:24:05.860 And it works.
00:24:07.360 The jury convicts him, but spares his life.
00:24:11.000 Life without parole.
00:24:12.880 The following year, Malvo pleads guilty in Spotsylvania County, Virginia,
00:24:17.300 to killing Kenneth Bridges and shooting Caroline Sewell,
00:24:20.700 and gets two more life sentences.
00:24:23.580 In May 2006, Maryland finally gets its turn.
00:24:28.040 John Muhammad goes on trial in Rockville for the six murders committed in Montgomery County.
00:24:33.420 And this time, the state has a witness it did not have in Virginia back in 2003.
00:24:39.460 Lee Malvo testifies against John Muhammad.
00:24:43.720 Malvo is now 21, and he testifies for the better part of two days.
00:24:48.740 He tells the jury the shootings were only phase one.
00:24:52.220 Phase two was bombs on schools, on school buses, in children's hospitals. Why children? The
00:25:00.260 prosecutor asks him. For the sheer terror of it, Malvo answers, quoting Mohammed. The worst thing
00:25:06.860 you can do to people is take aim at their children. He says Mohammed picked the targets 1.00
00:25:12.460 and picked who fired. He says he fired three of the shots himself and Mohammed fired the rest.
00:25:19.700 Malvo tells the jury about that night in Ashland, Virginia, when he says he shot the man outside
00:25:25.040 the steakhouse, the one married to the rocket scientist, and kept his cool. He didn't crack.
00:25:31.740 You were calm, Mohammed told him. I've created a monster. The prosecutor, Catherine Winfrey,
00:25:38.260 asks him why he agreed to testify. I want to tell the truth, and I think he is a coward, 0.97
00:25:44.560 Malvo says. Malvo then turns his head and looks directly at John Muhammad. 0.94
00:25:50.860 You took me into your house, he says, and you made me a monster.
00:25:56.180 The next morning, John Muhammad stands up to cross-examine Malvo. It goes on for several hours.
00:26:03.580 John is representing himself again. He keeps addressing Lee Malvo as son or Lee during the
00:26:10.560 cross-examination. Malvo interrupts. I would prefer you address me by my name, he says.
00:26:16.820 I'm not doing it intentionally, Mohammed protests. I apologize, Mr. Malvo. A few questions later,
00:26:23.980 he does it again. Son, he says. I mean, Mr. Malvo. Mohammed asks Malvo about a day in Antigua
00:26:31.620 when John's son, little John, and his girlfriend, Andrea, went into the water and started drowning.
00:26:38.940 John was off the island, and Malvo went in after them, saving them both.
00:26:43.480 Then John asks, son, I mean, Mr. Malvo, isn't it true that if the rolls were turned,
00:26:50.720 and Lee Boy Malvo was in that water, that John Allen Muhammad would have gotten him?
00:26:56.740 The prosecutors object. The judge sustains it. Malvo is not allowed to answer.
00:27:02.560 When Muhammad is finished, prosecutor Catherine Winfrey gets back up and asks Malvo one question.
00:27:10.880 What was the difference in how Mr. Muhammad treated you and his children, she asks.
00:27:17.060 Mr. Muhammad did not use any of his children to murder other people, says Malvo.
00:27:23.380 On May 30, 2006, John Muhammad is convicted of six more first-degree murders.
00:27:29.480 The jury gives him six consecutive life sentences on top of the death sentence already awaiting him in Virginia.
00:27:37.320 In November 2009, the U.S. Supreme Court rejects John Allen Muhammad's last petition, and the governor of Virginia refuses him clemency.
00:27:47.440 The execution is set for the evening of November 10th at the Greensville Correctional Center in Jarrett, Virginia.
00:27:54.360 John walks into the execution chamber at two minutes to nine.
00:27:57.740 He was allowed to choose the method of his execution, but never made a choice.
00:28:03.720 So under Virginia state law, the method defaults to lethal injection.
00:28:08.020 He has declined a spiritual advisor.
00:28:11.100 The execution of John Allen Muhammad has been carried out under the laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia.
00:28:17.920 Death was pronounced at 9.11 p.m.
00:28:21.120 9.11 p.m.
00:28:21.920 There were no complications.
00:28:23.080 Mr. Mohamed was asked if he wished to make a last statement.
00:28:28.600 He did not acknowledge this or make any statement whatsoever.
00:28:32.380 Mohamed apparently watched as the injection was administered,
00:28:36.300 tilted his head to the right, and stayed that way.
00:28:39.920 He was 48.
00:28:42.420 Lee Malvo sits in a cell.
00:28:45.000 In the years after the trials, the U.S. Supreme Court decides
00:28:48.080 a run of cases about minors who commit adult crimes,
00:28:51.880 concluding that a defendant who was a juvenile at the time of the crime
00:28:55.240 cannot be sentenced to life without parole,
00:28:58.680 and that holding reaches backward,
00:29:01.380 which reopened Lee Malvo's sentences.
00:29:04.980 Virginia rewrote its own law in response,
00:29:07.560 making him eligible for parole,
00:29:09.320 but Virginia's parole board refused to release him,
00:29:13.100 calling him a risk to the community.
00:29:15.960 Maryland is where the law gets strange.
00:29:18.420 Its highest court has ruled that Malvo's six Maryland life sentences were imposed unconstitutionally
00:29:24.180 and that he is owed a new sentencing hearing, but officials in Virginia refuse to hand him over.
00:29:31.100 So a state Supreme Court has ordered a hearing that cannot happen.
00:29:34.520 And Lee Boyd Malvo is 41 years old in a Virginia prison serving 10 life sentences
00:29:41.220 in a state that cannot mandate no parole ever,
00:29:45.160 but that is not inclined to entertain the possibility of ever setting this guy loose.
00:29:51.060 In 2012, he gave an interview to The Washington Post.
00:29:55.320 I mean, I was a monster.
00:29:57.320 If you look up the definition, I mean, that's what a monster is.
00:30:03.560 I was a ghoul. I was a thief. I stole people's lives.
00:30:07.700 And I did someone else bidding.
00:30:11.220 just because they said so.
00:30:14.260 I mean, that is the definition of a monster. 0.97
00:30:17.340 Six months after testifying against Mohammed,
00:30:20.740 Lee Malvo pleads guilty to the six Montgomery County murders
00:30:24.220 and comes back to the same courthouse to be sentenced.
00:30:28.300 Malvo stands up and reads out the six names.
00:30:31.320 Then he talks to the families sitting in that room.
00:30:35.480 I'm truly sorry, grieved, and ashamed of what I've done
00:30:38.620 to the families and friends, he says.
00:30:40.160 his voice breaks. I know that I destroyed many dreams and many more lives and that each of you
00:30:47.080 relive this every morning, every birthday, every anniversary, every time you look in your children's
00:30:53.220 eyes. He adds, I accept responsibility for killing your mother, father, sister, brother, son, daughter, 0.76
00:31:01.860 wife, husband, and friend. Then he says something about the last man he killed, the bus driver CJ.
00:31:10.160 in the doorway of his own bus at 5.55 in the morning.
00:31:15.040 I thought of his sons, Malvo says,
00:31:17.360 who just for once would like to play basketball with their father,
00:31:20.800 just one more time to see his face.
00:31:24.420 Then that bus driver, Conrad Johnson's mother, Sonia Wills, stands up.
00:31:29.800 She looks at the young man who shot him.
00:31:32.200 I must say, for the past four years, I have hated you, she says.
00:31:36.740 Right now, I, Conrad's mother, forgive you.
00:31:40.160 I have to, my dear. I can't go on hating you. That won't bring Conrad back.
00:31:48.180 Paul LaRuffa spent three days on a breathing machine after Malvo shot him outside of his
00:31:53.420 restaurant. Both of his lungs collapsed. He still has bullet fragments inside of him.
00:31:59.000 And until the morning the snipers were caught, the shooting haunted his nightmares.
00:32:03.220 You can't turn it off. You can't make it stop. It just happens. It happened every night.
00:32:08.780 When Muhammad's execution date is set, some of the victims and their families make plans to be in the room.
00:32:15.220 LaRuffa does not.
00:32:17.080 He explains why to the podcast Monster, DC Sniper.
00:32:21.520 I don't have a need to see him die, and I don't want him to take another day out of my life.
00:32:29.960 I'm sorry at any death, but I think if anybody deserves the death penalty, it was him.
00:32:37.180 Then there is the boy, Malvo.
00:32:39.780 Here's LaRuffa again.
00:32:41.800 I can say I've forgiven him,
00:32:44.260 but it doesn't mean what he did was okay with me.
00:32:47.460 I think he's responsible for what he did.
00:32:50.760 I get the feeling he feels he has to pay a price for it.
00:32:54.640 Has he paid enough of a price?
00:32:56.340 I don't think so.
00:32:57.840 Fifteen dead.
00:32:59.520 Eight more injured.
00:33:01.100 So much pain.
00:33:02.580 So much sadness.
00:33:04.420 The justice system gave the victims all it could.
00:33:08.300 Then it was up to them to keep living.
00:33:10.740 And they did.
00:33:12.700 Paul LaRuffa worked to reform youth sentencing laws
00:33:15.700 to prevent young offenders from getting life sentences without the chance of parole.
00:33:21.020 Mildred Mohammed went on to dedicate her life to helping abuse victims,
00:33:25.540 becoming a global speaker, an author, an educator
00:33:28.920 on the signs of invisible abuse, such as coercive control and stalking.
00:33:34.800 And Iren Brown, the 13-year-old shot in the gut by Malvo,
00:33:38.840 still has permanent nerve damage from the bullet Muhammad had directed be aimed at the child's head.
00:33:46.480 Multiple surgeries, a medically induced coma, and 20 years later, Iren told NBC News
00:33:52.400 he lives with anxiety now from the shooting, but that the shooting has given his life perspective.
00:33:59.760 He's deeply grateful to be alive,
00:34:02.040 and in the way that only great tragedy can offer a person,
00:34:05.500 sees each day as a truly precious gift.
00:34:09.080 24 years ago, still recovering from his injuries,
00:34:12.660 Iron showed the same resilience of spirit.
00:34:15.520 When asked that December what he wanted for Christmas,
00:34:19.380 he told the reporters,
00:34:21.820 I already have enough to be happy.
00:34:25.580 I'm Megan Kelly.
00:34:27.480 This is MK Confidential.
00:34:28.920 Thank you.