The Media Lied About Biden’s Cognitive Decline - Until They Couldn’t Anymore, with Steve Krakauer ｜ Ep. 830
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The media has done a complete 180 in its coverage of President Joe Biden, and now they can no longer deny what is clear to any American with eyes and ears: Joe Biden is finished as the Democratic presidential candidate. Megyn Kelly and Steve Krakauer discuss it all.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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The media has done a complete 180 in its coverage of President Biden
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as they can no longer deny what is clear to any American with eyes and ears.
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Of course, now that the wheels are coming off the bus, they're all trying to go off with it.
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What? I wasn't on that bus. I never helped advance that bus.
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I was always obviously aware of his cognitive abilities.
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Remember, it was just a couple of weeks ago that White House Press Secretary,
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Karine Jean-Pierre, and the media called these videos circulating,
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showing President Biden's concerning moments at public events, cheap fakes.
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So what gives? Here to discuss it all, my executive producer of this show,
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Steve Krakauer, who's also a media analyst and critic.
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Can you believe the shitstorm that is now swirling around the president?
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As somebody who watches the media, I've never seen anything like this.
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Well, at this point, I can believe it. I mean, I think that the floodgates have officially opened.
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I would say in the minutes after the debate ended, and, you know, we went live as soon as the debate
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ended. I mean, literally, the debate was actually still going on. And you said that Joe Biden,
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it's over. The nomination, his run in 2024 is over, whether he knows it or not. I was actually a
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little surprised to hear that. I thought, well, you know, that's, but you were obviously completely
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right on. And it was a little bit surprising in those initial hours that the media really followed
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suit, right? I mean, we saw from CNN's John King, and then we saw reporting from CBS, and then it
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just started this snowball effect. And I really did think after that disastrous debate that the
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floodgates, we would start to see this leak, leak, leak, and then things would open up. You know,
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maybe it would be around this time that things would start to kind of galvanize around this message,
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but it was immediate. And I think it was because it was just so obvious. And I think there's other
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things at play. I think that the corporate press, along with a lot of the elements of the
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democratic establishment, realized that Joe Biden could not beat Donald Trump. And that is what
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led to this. But so at this point, I mean, we're just getting story after story. And I think that
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there is a real pressure campaign that's being waged through the media right now to get Joe Biden to
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at least step down as the nominee and potentially as the president. But at this point, yeah, I think it's
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it's a foregone conclusion. This is happening very fast. And I think we're going to see it over very
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soon. It is a pile on at the moment. And you know, it's interesting if you watch the language,
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as we all do very carefully, you're seeing new language, even not just from the press, but
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even from the president's advisors. So I asked the team to put together. This is a butted sod,
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meaning butted sound on tape of Corrine Jean-Pierre and another White House representative,
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Ian Samms and listened at like they're defending the president and what they've seen. But listen
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to how they phrase it. It's no longer being stated that he's fine. As a matter of fact,
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I would see this as what it was and what we believe it to be, which is it was a bad night. I have
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have engagement with the president pretty regularly. What I see is a strong, resolute president who's
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willing and able to work on behalf of the American people. We are acknowledging what people are
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seeing. But we do believe this was a in in this instance, it was a bad night. We believe that this
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is a president that is able to continue to deliver and build on the unprecedented success that he's
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been able to do. That's what we believe. We believe and he believes it. When I deal with him,
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he's sharp. He's asking tough questions. And he's speaking, I think maybe most importantly,
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speaking passionately about what matters to him. What's the common thread you heard in all those
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answers? I think they're scrambling right now. And I think, look, these are paid partisans.
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And this is also, I mean, we've seen this multiple times now over the course of the day, whether no
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matter it's Andrew Bates, who's like one of my least favorite spokespeople, because I mean,
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he literally is just lying at all times. They are not going to say that that Joe Biden is is
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thinking about leaving, is possibly going to leave, is acknowledging that there's real problems
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until he announces it. I mean, they are going and they're not going to say he's fine. Like they're
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no longer going to say he's 100 percent fine. Now it's been reduced to my opinion. We believe we
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believe what I see. We do believe that's what we believe when I deal with him. That's what Sam's
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saying. What I've seen, because all of that, I mean, I actually think there's some evidence in
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all of that couching. They're worried about congressional hearings. They could be worried
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about potential. I don't like investigations, not charges. There's no criminality here, as far
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as I can tell. But they're putting the distance between them and the lies. Maybe their next job,
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you know, at this point, I mean, updating their LinkedIn and saying, I'm not going to go out on TV
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and fully lied. I've got to I've got to start to worry about what comes next, because so many of these
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people that are the closest advisors to Joe Biden, what happens to them? I mean, maybe they're part
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of the next Kamala Harris run. Maybe not. I mean, at this point, it's kind of, you know, rats jumping
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off the sinking ship here. Yeah, they are jumping off. They are rats and it's too late to save
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themselves. I hate to tell them, but couching it now in terms of your opinion is a day late and a
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dollar short. OK, so there's I would say off the top of my head, the two worst offenders when it comes
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to this 180 in the press coverage, you know, like nothing to see here. Move on. And now,
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oh, it's deeply alarming and he must step down are Morning Joe and The New York Times. Do you agree?
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Yes, yes. And I think there's there's a distinction between those two. And I will say The New York
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Times distinction is most interesting to me because they are they were essentially the rest of the pack.
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I mean, I think that they were with the rest of the media up until Thursday night. And so they were
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undistinguishable from the rest. And now they have to some level of credit distinguish themselves from
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that Friday morning, the daily podcast. And for people who are just sort of general consumers of
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news, when that daily hit, I mean, this that daily is is the biggest podcast in America by a wide
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margin. It's it is kind of sets the agenda for the left side of the country. That was a brutal episode
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for Joe Biden. That was, I believe, what led to some of these floodgates opening even beyond The New
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York Times. So I think The New York Times distinguishes themselves now as this real 180
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because they were just as bad as everyone else before. Now they're leading the charge to get him
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out. And what do you and how do you see Morning Joe's culpability here? Well, one point in Joe just
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feels just so gross. I mean, Joe from Joe Scarbo to Mika Brzezinski, we know that this is they're the
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sycophants of the media when it comes to the Biden administration. They are talking to this audience
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of one and they have been during this entire presidency. We know that Joe Biden loves Morning
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Joe. And by extension, I would say Morning Joe Scarbo loves Joe Biden. I've said it for years now.
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He's cogent. But I undersold him when I said he was cogent. He's far beyond cogent. In fact, I think
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he's better than he's ever been. Start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth
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and F you if you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden intellectually, analytically,
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is the best Biden ever. Not a close second. And I've known him for years. The Brzezinskis have known
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him for 50 years. If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it. Then I think it's critical
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that we ask the same questions about this man I love, respect. Can he run for president in 2024?
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In fact, as the New York Times said, he spent much of the night with his mouth agape and his eyes
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darting back and forth. He couldn't fact check anything Donald Trump said. And not only that,
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he missed one layup after another, after another. Last night, he simply was not on the biggest debate
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stage ever. And I'll even use the word tragically. He tragically did not rise to the occasion last
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night. And so they had this, this level of, look, they are one of the worst offenders because they
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saw him. They knew him behind the scenes. Now, there's been a lot of reporting that even people
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like Tom Friedman, who, yeah, they've gotten a, they've got, they've sat down, they've had a drink
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or they're not a drink, but they've had a meal with Joe Biden before. But okay, maybe that was once a
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year. Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, they knew, and they tried to cover it, that they were very much,
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you know, explicit and they were complicit in this coverup on the media side. And so now,
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you know, you've got Mika coming out there after the weekend, who just literally was regurgitating
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the Democratic talking points, the Joe Biden talking points, just, just for 15 minutes to
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start the show. Obviously, Joe Scarborough wasn't there. And he's just almost crying and how he's
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so sad about it. He's trying a different tactic a little bit. But he was bad in the beginning. And it's
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just so embarrassing now. I know it was amazing to hear her be like, Oh, cross country trips and
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Hunter's conviction. And there was a state dinner. And so he's super tired. And I got real questions
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about these advisors that would put him out after, you know, meanwhile, he'd been back stateside for
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10 days. It's just such an obvious lie. She, I think she literally took their talking points and
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made a little memo for herself out of it and read it on the air. But meanwhile, Scarborough was
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missing in action, weirdly on vacation without his wife that day after going out on the air that
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previous Friday and saying, you know, I, he didn't say the words I was wrong, but he said he can't do
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it. He was, he's unable to prosecute the case against Donald Trump. Megan, they have a home studio
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in their main home during the summer. I mean, this was like Joe Scarborough in the other room. Okay.
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Not going out on air to do this. Too ashamed. I really do wonder like what, what happened behind
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the scenes? I'd love to know. So the New York times, I think it's actually rather amazing.
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The amount of chutzpah that they are showing in now condemning him as old and infirm and incapable,
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given how they dismissed the videos showing us all of that as cheap fakes just weeks ago. Now his
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cognitive problems have been long in the making. You know, you and I, we reminded the audience that back
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in 2022, we did an episode. It was an early episode for our show doing a deep dive in his
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cognitive abilities. And we talked behind the scenes about this appropriate. You know, we don't want to
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diagnose somebody who we haven't actually seen. That's not right, but this is a new story. And we
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put on Dr. Bredesen, who's an expert in brain health. Like we, we took it very seriously back
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then, but almost nobody was touching it back then. And that was specifically why we did it. You know,
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this is a little peek behind the curtain here, but you and I have these conversations and say,
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what is true and what are people not saying? What is, what is the story that's important?
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That is, that is absolutely, you know, based in truth, but that people are afraid to talk about,
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that people are not doing. And Biden's cognitive fitness and his cognitive decline was certainly
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one of them. And so we said, well, let's take it seriously. We had on people from the left and
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right, Rich Lowry and Ryan Grimm. We had on Dr. Bredesen, a specialist in brain health.
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Let's take it seriously. Let's actually do this because it's important. And, and obviously we've been
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seeing this for years and it, there has been a lot of reporting in the last few days that
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the last six to nine months have gotten significantly worse. I think we have seen
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some evidence of that, but it certainly didn't start Thursday night. I think that that's obvious
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to anyone who's been paying even a little bit of attention to what's going on.
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Oh yeah. I mean, the New York times actually was like, Oh yeah. In the past three weeks,
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it's gotten really bad. Okay. All right. Sure. Right. Well, after we issued our earlier
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publications, defending all those moments. So let's talk about some of those moments because it's
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really telling. Okay. So the team has put together some great, some great, uh, information for us
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both to digest here. Now the New York times, they talked about it. This is an article from six 21,
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how misleading videos are trailing Biden as he battles age doubts misleading. They say, uh, look,
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he's got many adversaries in this year's election. And then there are the distorted. There is the distorted
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online version of himself, a product of often misleading videos. And they go on to say, Oh,
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the conservative news outlets, the RNC Trump team, they're circulating videos of him that lack
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important context. They've twisted mundane moments to paint him in an unflattering light.
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The New York times review of these videos found that some scenes were cut short and taken out of
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context. Other clips were cropped in a way that omitted crucial details. Some of the videos of Mr.
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Biden circulating during this year's campaign are clearly manipulated to make him look old and
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confused. Okay. So like what New York times walk us through it. This is what they said on June 21st
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about let's see. Oh, D day. This is about the D day event in France. They're talking about how he
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walked out and he didn't stay long enough. Macron was left there to, to say, to greet all the
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veterans. And the conservatives did point this out and say, he screwed it up. And Joe Biden had to
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take them out. So this is what they report on June 21. He was escorted out of event by his wife,
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Jill Biden, when president Emmanuel Macron of France stayed behind to greet veterans. But then the point
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the times wants you to know is a longer video showed Mr. Biden greeting veterans before his exit
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and then walking out with Dr. Joe. Okay. So they're basically saying he greeted the veterans. He just
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did it before his exit. So calm down. Now on July 2nd, there was an awkward moment when Mr. Macron made
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sure the president got safely down the ramp. Oh, that was, it was awkward. Why didn't you tell us that
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before? And then came back up to shake all the veterans hands. Mr. Biden had been expected to stay for
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the handshakes. Why didn't you tell us that before? You didn't tell us that you, you tried to dismiss it
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like it was nothing. He seemed confused at points during the D-Day anniversary ceremony in France
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on June 2nd. None of that was in the original. Don't believe the cheap fakes reporting, Steve.
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The entire cheap fake narrative. And that is truly what it was. It was this crafted artificial narrative
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that was created to try to spin this video and several others, which I know we're going to talk about.
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And it obviously all blew up on Thursday night, but it wouldn't have if Joe Biden had even a
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C-minus debate. I mean, it literally took a failing grade, a just a brutally medically obvious debate to
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blow this completely out the window. And look, the New York Times is not alone in how they framed
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these videos, but they are obviously a very important voice as we've talked about. And
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why did this happen? Why did they do this? Why did they go down this path? And I think it's
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important to understand that there is a social penalty, this kind of intellectual blackmail that
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happens. When I interviewed Olivia Nuzzi for my book last year, she had talked about how covering
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the Trump administration, there was no social penalty if you went after them, if you reported things.
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With the Biden administration, it's the opposite. You have to have at least a little bit of spine
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to cover things in a way that you know is going to get you blow back from your inner circle,
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whether it's within friends, whether it's on social media, on X. And so few reporters are
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willing to do that. So they're just more than happy to, whether it's willful ignorance or whether it's
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sort of this obvious bias, but whatever the reason, they are more than happy to go along with this
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narrative that is clearly false for anyone who isn't totally politically blinded by what's happening
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in front of their eyes. They're not afraid of their reputation being hurt, their credibility.
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They already got away with so many of these lies, Russiagate being the best and most recent example.
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They're like, yeah, I'm fine. I only win by criticizing Trump and defending President Biden.
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So the second example is the Juneteenth celebration at the White House on June 10th.
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This is where Biden stood motionless and he stared blankly for a full minute
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as others sang and danced around him. Here's the soundbite.
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He looks literally frozen. This dovetails perfectly with the New York Times reporting now
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that they've seen rigor mortis in him. That others, or no, it was Carl Bernstein,
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Carl Bernstein reporting that some have seen him looking rigor mortis. So the Times after that hit
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and it became a controversy said some of these videos are clearly manipulated to make him look old
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and confused. Others cut out vital context to portray him in negative light. This is known
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as a cheap fake. And now that he's had the debate meltdown July 2nd, they refer back to this event
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June 10th. On June 10th, he appeared to freeze up at an early celebration of the Juneteenth holiday.
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I'll give you one more. The G7, which happened Thursday, June 13th. At this event, he wandered away
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from his fellow leaders during a skydiving demonstration. He appeared to say something
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to an officer packing a parachute off to the side. And this is where the Georgia, I'm sorry,
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the Italian prime minister, Georgia Maloney, walked over and touched his arm, trying to pull him back
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toward the group. Well, many called attention to this video and said, where's he going? What's he doing?
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He's leaving all the action. Here you can see the Italian prime minister try to subtly redirect him.
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By the way, the paratrooper that he was going over towards wasn't looking at him, wasn't making eye
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contact, wasn't seeking his attention. All the attention was on this one, this one paratrooper.
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And he did seem to get lost and not understand that's where his focus was supposed to be.
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So the New York Times then, June 21st, said he wandered off during a meeting with other G7 leaders
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an image that the New York Post ran on its front page. And then they say, in defense of him,
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he was greeting paratroopers. Like they're trying to say, he didn't wander. He was greeting paratroopers.
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Now, July 2nd. Okay. At one point, Mr. Biden appeared to wander off from the group of leaders,
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but the image suggested he needed guidance from his host, a senior European official who was present
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said that there had been a noticeable decline in Mr. Biden's physical state since the previous fall
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and that the Europeans had been shocked by what they saw. Where was all that? Back on the June 21st
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reporting, Stephen, it went on from there. They said they were shocked. He appeared out of it,
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said the official. It was difficult to engage him in conversation while he was walking.
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Ms. Maloney and the other leaders were acutely sensitive to his physical condition, discussing it
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privately amongst themselves. They tried to avoid embarrassing him by showing slowing their own pace
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while walking with him. When they worried he did not seem poised and cameras were around,
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they closed ranks around him physically to shield him while he collected himself, said the official.
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None of that appeared in the June 21st reporting, which just defended him by saying,
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yo, conservatives, he was greeting a paratrooper.
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Yeah. So there's two options for what happened here. Either they had all these quotes from these senior
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European officials and they just held them back, which is obviously just a dereliction of duty as
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a journalist. Or they went and then they kind of re-reported it out and they said, let's actually
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find out what he was like behind the scenes in these meetings. Again, a total dereliction of duty.
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There is no good side here. And that video that we played, we should play that again because there was
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an amazing moment. CBS News did a segment on these cheap fakes and they played this video and they said,
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look at this, this is misinformation. This is out of context video. And then it was brought to their
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attention that, oh, wait a second. No, this is the right video. This is the one that we, but it's so
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obviously painful and bad that they, they assume that this was the bad video. No, this was the version
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that was actually tweeted out by the campaign. And as there as, oh, look, no, no, he's totally fine
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here. No, no, he's, he's obviously not. It's, it's so clear to anyone. And, and again, I mean, all of this
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reframing and this kind of narrative bias that we see, it is not journalists suddenly learning on
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Thursday night that Joe Biden has a major serious problem here. No, what happened is they've saw
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that they can no longer have Joe Biden at the top of the ticket and beat Donald Trump. There is a
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larger plan at play. Now, I don't think it was coordinated. I think that that's very clear that
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this has been a mess. This has just been a debacle in the last seven days too. No one knows what to do.
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There's no coordination happening, but they, what's at the core of what's happening here from
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the corporate media is that they have clearly made a decision that it's all hands on deck to
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push Joe Biden out because he cannot beat Donald Trump. That's, that's what's really at the base
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here. We've got to save democracy. This is our way of doing it. Yes. What they, well, we were,
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you know, slack jawed watching that debate thinking, oh my God, it's even worse than we knew.
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They were watching it thinking the jig is up. We can no longer, we we've known what everybody's
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known, but we can, we no longer have plausible deniability. So we have no choice, but to push
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him, make him walk the plank. That's it. It's done. We cannot win with this guy. That's all they
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care about. We can't win with him now because people have seen what we saw. Yes. Yeah. I think
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that that is in a different time. This, this presidency of Joe Biden would have been covered in a very
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different way. And even potentially if Donald Trump, let's say, decided not to run in 2024,
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potentially the Joe Biden presidency would be covered very differently. But there has been
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such a, a whiplash that we've seen from a media perspective in how president Biden was covered
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free Thursday night and that debacle and, and, and the debate stage and what's happened since then.
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Whether they've decided to just open their notebook and publish the things that they had,
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that they were afraid to publish, that they were essentially blackmailed from publishing before,
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you know, not, not literal blackmail, but essentially like social blackmail from,
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from the democratic establishment, whatever the reason that has completely changed now.
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And it is all open season on covering Joe Biden in an honest way. That's very important. This is not
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like, let's make up some things and get them out. No, now let's be honest about the real situation
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that's, that's facing America. Uh, because that is, this is a president. This is not just a
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a political candidate. This is what he's been like for a very long time, certainly before Thursday
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night. So you and I both know that if the Democrats push him out and replace him with anyone,
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the media will once again become fawning, absolutely fawning over whomever they choose.
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But the interesting question is what if they don't push him out? What if he doesn't go,
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which I don't think is likely. I mean, we've talked about that, but let's say he doesn't go.
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What does the media do then right between now and November?
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Well, a couple of things to point out then that have all been, uh, things that I found from our
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show. So I will say, first of all, Chris Stierwald, uh, was great when he came on. We,
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we did a segment early on. This was, uh, back in February, uh, about what would happen if,
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if Joe Biden stepped aside, whether it was now, whether it was in the primary process,
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whether it was at the convention. And there is a scenario even after the convention for about a
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three week period where he could step aside and the DNC picks the nominee. So, so there are lots
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of chances for them to do it. They've got a long runway. Obviously I think they would like to get
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this done immediately. It looks like Joe Biden's digging in his heels, but the media will be
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relentless. They will not just give into this. The polls are not going to change. This is only going
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to get worse. They have until kind of mid September to get rid of them. So, so that's the first thing that
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I would say, you know, the other thing that, that is, that I think that that's important is something
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that Steve Bannon brought up. Uh, this was before he went to jail now this week, uh, when he was on
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our show on Friday. And I think that the media has to understand that it's not, they're not going to
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just get away with suddenly Kamala Harris is in the chair or suddenly, Oh, it's a contested convention.
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Let's just talk about how great this is. This is just a show of democracy. No, the Republicans are
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going to make a point that this was done to the American people. This was a lie that was perpetrated
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by the democratic establishment and the media to kind of work in coordination. And this is not
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a solution, whether it's Kamala Harris, whether it's anyone else, this is not a proper solution
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for the, for this problem that they have created themselves. So I think that the media is going to
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try with all their might to get rid of Biden and they will try for months if it, if that's what it
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takes. And then they will certainly try to bypass all, you know, kind of the Republican talking
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points that this is just great for America. This is really just democracy at work here. I think that
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they're going to try that, but I don't think it's going to work necessarily. That's right. And, and it'll
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be up to people like us to remind the American voters that they've been intentionally misled that
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the, and then by the way, that whoever they nominate, if it's not Joe Biden will not have been vetted.
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This person will not be, will have been vetted the way we properly vet candidates in today's day and
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age. You know what I mean? Look at RFKJ. Even now, some shocking news is breaking about him
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because they're just now starting to get mildly interested in him. He ate a goat and posed with
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his carcass. I don't know some other stuff with his ex-wife or his wife who committed suicide,
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courtesy of Maureen, who's been doing a great job, Callahan, who was also on our show last week.
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But in any event there, they have an obligation, uh, as members of the media to, to vet these
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candidates. And it's very late in the game to be starting up a new with a new name that we don't
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know that well. Even if it's like Michelle Obama, do you think we're going to suddenly get stories
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from the mainstream media, the New York times, it's up the world, the politicos, the Atlantics
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about Michelle Obama? What was, what's in her past? We don't really know. She was the first lady for
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eight years, but you know, she was focused on, uh, having kids, you know, eat healthy. I mean, we,
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we've never really done that. No, that is not going to be the point, the point of the media over
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that, the, the, the following stretch here. No, there is, there is in their mind, much bigger
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issues at play when it comes to stopping Donald Trump. Yeah, no, it's, it's like Jesus coming back
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and they, them saying, well, his hair is a little long. No, that's not going to happen. They,
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they will be treating whoever it is, especially Michelle Obama as the savior. And that's how they,
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the media will view said person, but we have to get past what Joe Biden does first.
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As of today, he's hanging in there. We'll see whether he has a July 4th
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patriotic gift for the country. Steve Krakauer. Thank you, my friend. Great to see you.
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Good seeing you. We'll watch it. Yeah. To be continued.
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Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.