The White House is on defense today after a series of self-inflicted controversies. First, there s outgoing press secretary Jen Psaki trying to convince reporters not to believe their lying eyes after Vice President Kamala Harris was caught repeatedly ignoring the government s own guidance on masking. And to top it off, the White House released video evidence proving that Vice President Joe Biden was, in fact, going maskless. But perhaps the most disturbing of all is the way that the administration is handling the President of the United States.
00:38:39.840For some people, this is just about, it's about power and not allowing the narrative to be,
00:38:45.660we were wrong about pretty much everything, that Fauci is the most disastrous public health expert.
00:38:50.800I think you could argue in the history of the world, certainly in the history of the modern United States,
00:38:56.500that so many of the things that they told us and that the science told them were wrong,
00:39:01.840that they've lied to people, they put people through misery,
00:39:04.520they had four-year-olds eating lunch outside in 35-degree weather with masks on because they're either cowards or idiots.
00:39:13.080They were doing that to little children in New York City.
00:39:15.060They're still masking up kids here in the city, which is completely inexplicable.
00:39:18.760They're masking up people on planes where they're safer than they are in almost any other congregate setting
00:39:23.220because of the filtration system on planes.
00:39:25.320It's also not a mask-up policy, it's a mask-up-between-bites policy.
00:39:29.080I try to explain this to people in the most simplistic terms, and they always go,
00:39:32.700yeah, you're right, imagine, Megan, if we were all trying to avoid getting poison ivy.
00:39:36.500And you're really, you know, and imagine you could really only get poison ivy once.
00:39:39.600And you were wearing gloves and long sleeves and everything.
00:39:42.740But, you know, when it was an important or historic occasion, you took them off and you grabbed that poison ivy.
00:39:46.860You're going to, I mean, this notion that masking up between bites does anything is lunacy.
00:39:53.080And that's federal policy on airplanes.
00:39:55.040This idea that people in any way, shape, or form are benefiting themselves through partial lockdowns.
00:40:02.120You want to see a lockdown? Lockdown is what Shanghai is doing, which is appalling.
00:40:05.340I think Fauci sees it and says, yeah, I wish we could go that far, but not quite yet.
00:40:10.660Lockdown that only involves people not really going to restaurants as much, obviously doesn't stop the spread, doesn't do anything.
00:40:16.360They keep lying, Megan, because otherwise, I don't think people will ever trust the health apparatus again.
00:40:21.260And I think this is to the credibility of the Democrat Party to anybody with an IQ above that of a toaster who's not just ideologically brainwashed.
00:40:28.820This is an this is an existential threat to the credibility of the Democrat left on health issues, on health policy, on all of it.
00:40:35.180Hmm. Well, I heard you had some sort of a dust up on a Delta flight lately involving a mask.
00:40:41.140And, you know, I've been thinking about the absurd ongoing mask mandate on public transportation, on the airplanes.
00:40:47.520And I've decided my next flight, as I'm sure they're going to keep it longer than two weeks.
00:40:52.080I just I don't they're never taking it down.
00:40:53.860But let's say it's within the next two weeks and I have to go on a flight.
00:40:56.320I've got the solution. I'm going to get on board.
00:40:58.480I guess I'll have to wear my mask as I walk on the plane.
00:41:01.060I'm going to sit down. I'm going to take out a candy apple.
00:41:05.340I will never have to put the mask up the entire flight.
00:41:09.240Have you ever tried to eat a candy apple?
00:41:11.780Can I tell you what happened on my Delta flight?
00:41:13.480Just so you understand what we have to deal with sometimes here.
00:41:40.040I mean, any airline attendant, I've got lots of airline attendants and pilots who listen to my radio show.
00:41:45.180And folks should also check out the Buck Sexton podcast.
00:41:48.400But they they will tell you that they hate these rules and they never enforce them unless someone complains that they're not enforcing them enough.
00:41:54.900The people that walk around like the mask Stasi, you know, the ones who act like the covid Siberian prison guards, like they're doing this if they want to.
00:42:03.560And it's and they're so dumb. And the fact that Jen Psaki gets up there and ask acts like it's somehow, you know, an explanation that every Democrat who's been a total lockdown or a huge fan of all this stuff at one time or another, it seems.
00:42:17.980Has been caught flagrantly violating the rules that they're imposing on the rest of us, because just like everything else about their ideology, they'll believe anything as long as it lets them feel special, powerful and better than everybody else.
00:42:30.780And they'll go along with anything as long as it lets them achieve those things.
00:42:34.420They'll say whatever. And that's what you've seen with covid all along.
00:42:38.340Does anyone really think that masks work at this point? I am I am fascinated by that argument.
00:42:43.880I'm fascinated by the complete refusal to look at the reams.
00:42:48.520I mean, the mountains of data, places that did mask places that didn't mask places that ran control studies, places that actually crunched the numbers.
00:42:56.420There was just a study. Oh, there's just a study. I think it was Marty.
00:43:01.380No, it was from overseas. It might have been from the Swiss Denmark or it was either Denmark or the Netherlands. Right.
00:43:09.140Is that what you're talking about? Yes. And it took a hard look just very recently at masking kids versus not masking kids.
00:43:15.420And they and they took a look at these were 10 to 12 year olds. Right.
00:43:18.040So like the the the group that allegedly starting to get more contagious and it proved that if it was basically the same, you know, you caught it or you didn't catch it at the exact same rate, whether you were a mask or not, the ones wearing the mask.
00:43:29.820The actual data was the mask. Yes, you know, the mask schools had actually a slightly, slightly higher rate.
00:43:35.500Yes. Yes. So that won't be discussed here in the United States as we literally are starting to remask children.
00:43:41.000There is a school. It was not far from where I lived in the Upper West Side named Calhoun.
00:43:44.680And a rumor had it. Matt Damon sent his kids there for a little while.
00:43:49.100I saw the memo myself. They're they're re-masking the kids.
00:43:51.740They started as of this week because of this, you know, slow rise in this variant that does absolutely nothing.
00:43:56.320But that's that's not even deadly. But yeah, they've got to put them back on because they won't listen to the science.
00:44:02.440And I guess the candy apple is not going to save anybody.
00:44:05.200It's child abuse. And what they're doing is child abuse.
00:44:07.760I mean, they can try to justify it a million different ways.
00:44:10.200But if you're if a babysitter, Megan, took your child, made him or her sit outside in freezing temperatures with a cloth around their face, stifling their breath and telling them that this is where they had to eat their lunch, you'd call the police.
00:44:23.480That was the New York City public school system for quite some time because of libs, because of Democrats, because people, you know, taking photos of themselves, getting the vaccine while they're double masks, saying this is what the responsible people do.
00:44:36.020And everybody who has any questions about this is evil. Yeah, there's a lot of people who will never accept that they were essentially wrong about everything that really mattered during this.
00:44:46.620And the Democrat Party is wrong. Look, they use this to beat Donald Trump in the election.
00:44:49.840They use this whole narrative of Joe Biden's.
00:44:53.560They've never been able to explain how more people died of covid under Biden than under Trump, while Biden had a vaccine for six months of the first year.
00:44:59.840And even even Fauci. Fauci was out there touting to the BBC how it was all Trump's fault, like Trump killed a lot of people.
00:45:06.540More people died under Joe Biden's watch than under Donald Trump's watch.
00:45:09.780And Joe Biden had vaccines and therapeutics. Keep going.
00:45:14.960He went to my high school, by the way, Megan, just, you know, he's a Regis high school alum and he is the worst person on the planet, I think.
00:45:22.120You can see him. He's like he's missing his moment in the sun. They let him out and out of that one Sunday show.
00:45:27.880And he was like, I think, under duress, forced to say it's endemic.
00:45:31.380It's going to be up to people to decide their own personal risk tolerance.
00:45:35.140But masks are still a great idea. And the vaccine is still amazing.
00:45:39.020But I guess you have to choose how much you're willing to.
00:45:41.720Clearly, I was joking with my pals over at GB News that there was Australia.
00:45:46.440Sky Australia was saying they had his puppy.
00:45:48.700They clearly had like his new about his new puppy on the other side of the camera.
00:45:51.520Like you say it's endemic. This is the Democrats who know they're going to lose it in the fall.
00:45:55.840Right. Like you say it's endemic. You say it's a personal risk tolerance issue now or the puppy gets it.
00:46:00.240That's the only way you got him to say anything reasonable.
00:47:25.320Check him out, guys. Check him out on the Buck and Clay show and check him out on his Buck Sexton podcast as well.
00:47:30.720We are going to get into the left's new obsession with ghost guns.
00:47:38.020Maybe it's not so new, but it's renewed, as well as President Biden's ATF nominee and much, much more with Dana Lash.
00:47:44.580She's host of the nationally syndicated The Dana Show.
00:47:48.660Dana, great to have you back. Thanks for coming.
00:47:50.880No, thanks for having me, Megan. Good to see you.
00:47:53.080Oh, you too. All right. So before we get to all the gun stuff, which you are truly the expert on,
00:47:57.120can we talk about Elon Musk and the meltdown that happened on Twitter yesterday?
00:48:01.720I mean, it was a it was a hysterical meltdown by the left on Twitter at the thought that Elon Musk might actually succeed with this takeover bid,
00:48:11.280which he's predicting he probably won't succeed.
00:48:14.760And it doesn't sound like the board wants to accept the offer, even if it might be in the best interest of the shareholders.
00:48:20.720But just to give people a flavor of what we saw yesterday, there's a commentator named Jeff Jarvis.
00:48:27.020Today on Twitter feels like the last evening in Berlin in a Berlin nightclub at the twilight of Weimar, Germany.
00:48:33.440So right before Hitler. OK, so it's a Hitler-esque moment.
00:48:37.640OK, Max Boot. I mean, he's lost his mind. He used to be a conservative.
00:49:06.480Well, I guess he's space Hitler now. I mean, that's kind of what I'm walking away with.
00:49:10.100All these people are saying he's space Hitler and I guess he's going to just imprison everybody on the moon.
00:49:13.840This is crazy. And really, this is, I think, a huge digital battle that is, is I think going to be a touchstone that we're all going to look back on for some time to come.
00:49:24.780Because I read that Vanguard Group is now involved and then you have like some Saudi royalty that's getting involved in this because billionaires, if they don't agree with the left and confirm their narratives, they're a problem if they own these media companies.
00:49:37.480But I guess not if you're a Saudi king or not if you're BlackRock or Vanguard Group or somebody else.
00:49:42.160I just really want to find out where the far left is, where their consistency is on this.
00:49:46.980I think it's a great thing. I mean, we have people advocating against a guy buying a company because they don't want free speech.
00:49:54.660I mean, I just, if you would have, Megan, if you would have told me that this is going to be a debate 10 years ago, I wouldn't have believed you.
00:49:59.720I would have thought that this is, okay, this is just hyperbole. Nobody's going to actually, no, we're living it now.
00:50:04.520And the crazy thing is, is you don't have to be even on Twitter or use Twitter or even know what Twitter is because there's such a tiny percentage of people that are actually on and active on Twitter.
00:50:16.440It's very different in terms of digital consumption from Facebook and Instagram.
00:50:20.240I mean, really, ultimately, it's where the commentary goes to fight over narratives. It's where strategists are. It's where pundits are.
00:50:27.040Everyone else uses that, uses it as like some kind of marketing tool. I'm just a brat on there. I really don't do anything of value other than be a brat.
00:50:35.960But it's like, you don't even really have to be on it to be affected by it because it's going to establish a precedent for how people are going to be handling this years to come.
00:50:45.040And it's also going to redefine this argument that we've had back and forth for, I guess, the past, you know, really heavy for the past five to six years now.
00:50:53.700What, how do you define a town square, a free speech forum that is owned and administered by a private company?
00:51:01.700And what if that private company can act as an agent of the government?
00:51:06.660I mean, these are all questions that this is a brave new world we've yet to define and figure out where those boundaries are.
00:51:12.180And I think Musk really made a good faith effort.
00:51:14.480I know Mark Cuban said that he was just kind of screwing with the SEC.
00:51:36.440I think that that's that's a great place for Twitter to go.
00:51:39.060But I can't believe, Megan, that it's such a threat by, you know, the people that you were citing here, Jeff Jarvis and and Max Boot.
00:51:45.080And there was another guy who I remember called the manager, called the police on some lady at Target over a toothbrush who was all upset and said,
00:51:51.320this is going to start World War Three and get people killed if Musk does this, which isn't just crazy drama.
00:51:58.480You know, but we're fighting over free speech.
00:52:34.120But anyway, if he if he were to buy it, I do think it would seriously impact our culture in a great way, you know, to have more opinions freely expressed, to have more of an exchange, more conservatives engaging on that forum without fear.
00:52:46.320And, you know, just the ability to push back on these libs who own it now and they know if you push back too hard, you're going to get silenced by the corporate bosses.
00:52:54.820To your point about the Saudis, this was what this was a fascinating dynamic yesterday because there's the billionaire Saudi prince, Alawid bin Talal al-Saud, who said, I'm going to vote to reject his offer.
00:53:08.840He said, I'm going to vote to reject this offer.
00:53:10.760However, he doesn't think that the proposed offer comes close to the intrinsic value of Twitter, even though it's way above what it had been valued before, which is, I don't know, $10.
00:53:44.840So could you spare us your your little lectures on what you think is the intrinsic value of this journalistic site or purportedly free speech site?
00:53:54.060Because we all know how you really feel about journalists and people related to the media world who want to express actual facts or their opinions that might not jive with your rulers.
00:54:04.480Now, that was a great point that Musk made yesterday.
00:54:41.020I just don't like being lectured to by people who think that, you know, they're going to go to heaven over me because they got a green vehicle and that it's better for the environment.
00:54:47.840I mean, we've all seen the pictures of those kids in Congo hand mining for cobalt.
00:54:52.660And that, by the way, it's very interesting.
00:54:54.240That's one of the firms that Hunter Biden facilitated the sale of.
00:55:13.760And this guy's done more good and more advancement for some of these technological issues and things that, you know, we really needed to explore and gain some ground in.
00:55:58.240Well, I mean, I'm all for electric vehicles, but I'm not going to be lectured to like you by the people who ride them to their private jets.
00:58:04.880You've got to mill cavities for the other pieces to go in this chunk of aluminum.
00:58:08.240Basically, you're getting a paperweight and some nuts and bolts.
00:58:10.660And so what the ATF under Biden is doing now, they're trying to argue that basically this not basically they're saying this chunk of aluminum is the same thing as a firearm.
00:58:19.760They define what a firearm was in the 1968 and one of the laws that they had passed, Gun Control Act.
00:58:27.420And they were defining what a firearm was.
00:58:31.500The page that they came out with, the report that they came out with, the rule, I was trying to remember, I think it's 306 or 308 pages to how they were trying to argue their case that this chunk of aluminum is actually a firearm.
00:58:44.420It's a horrible argument that they're making.
00:58:47.460And they're saying that because these hobbyists are making firearms at home and keeping them for their own personal use, and this is already federal law, they don't have to serialize that particular chunk of aluminum.
00:58:58.020But if I were to make a gun at home, Megan, and if I were to sell it to you, I would have to serialize it.
00:59:02.220If I were to sell it to a family member in my own state of residence, I would still have to serialize it.
00:59:07.140I mean, this has all been established law for ages.
00:59:10.120And so Biden's saying now that, well, the increase in crime isn't due to us demanding to defund the police.
00:59:16.760It's not due to the restorative justice and all of these horrific Soros-backed DAs in places like California or St. Louis with Kim Gardner or in D.C. or in New York where they had that bail reform that they had to walk back after all of these repeat offenders went out and committed over 400 brand-new crimes after they got a wrist slap and barely had to serve any time for serious violent felonies.
00:59:39.540And it's not even due to the fact that we're increasing people's desperation by running the economy into a hole in the ground.
00:59:45.100It's because, Megan, of hobbyists, people who are just in their spare time building their firearms at home.
00:59:50.940Because, you know, Megan, gangsters and drug dealers are going out and purchasing drilling presses and routers and all kinds of machinery.
00:59:57.920And they're spending that time milling this all out with the expertise that they have.
01:00:02.060One quick point on this, one last point.
01:00:04.300ATF said in March of this year, from 2016 to 2021, there were over 89,000 murders, firearms illegally used, illegally possessed, used in homicides.
01:00:13.400And they were saying that of that, 325 were attributable to ghost guns.
01:00:17.140Problem with that number is that sawed-off shotguns and firearms were covered at crime scenes with the serial number filed off.
01:00:23.660That all goes into that category, too.
01:02:23.140And they would like it to be, apparently, somebody has put this on their desk, that New York should be an open-carry state and an open-carry city.
01:02:31.400With all of the density in this city, they want people running around with guns.
01:02:35.420People, middle-class people will be leaving in droves if that happens.
01:03:15.560I just think that if she's going to try to influence public opinion on these issues, she needs to know just like the very basics of the case that she's talking about.
01:03:23.340And maybe just, you know, basic imagination of government.
01:04:16.580Or you have to have an active restraining order against somebody.
01:04:18.940But you can't just get one if you're just anybody.
01:04:21.260And if you can't get concealed carry, what that means is you can't get a gun in New York City.
01:04:25.920So she's saying if they allow concealed carry on a more widespread basis without making everybody jump through all these hoops, all the middle class are going to flee.
01:04:33.680But you tell me, I mean, there are how many states in the union have concealed carry laws already?
01:04:48.680Everyone always says it's going to be like the Wild West and there's going to be violence in the streets.
01:04:53.420There's nothing that ever supports that.
01:04:55.060In fact, actually, you could argue that there's a you could beg the question, actually, that crime does, in fact, go down when these laws pass.
01:05:02.100I actually the thing that surprises me, I didn't realize there was a middle class left in New York anymore.
01:05:06.560I thought that the high crime and the feces and needles and people getting shoved into subway tracks and everything else kind of drove everybody out of New York.
01:05:14.520I think maybe more people would stay in if they had the ability to protect themselves.
01:05:19.580I mean, you have the New York Safe Act.
01:05:27.340The laws that they have, particularly New York Safe Act, is absolutely bizarre and it does nothing to contribute towards any kind of decrease in crime.
01:05:34.480In fact, the restorative justice that's running rampant through that system up there, that makes that make sure of that.
01:06:42.960Chicago City reached at least eight hundred homicides in twenty twenty one, a level not seen in twenty five years on track for another record year.
01:06:50.360Los Angeles, 54 percent increase in murders since just two thousand nineteen and on and on it goes.
01:07:02.600We have this cut of them talking about how if we could just get rid of the guns, we wouldn't have these problems like our friends overseas.
01:08:19.160That's like, you know, your larger, I don't want to say varmint, but, you know, deer rifle or, you know, what people would use for larger game, per se.
01:08:25.620But, you know, AR-15, it's good for hog hunting, it's good for a number of things, it's the most popularly owned rifle, and the most important point in this whole discussion, it is the rifle that is responsible for the fewest amount of homicides annually, FBI, UCRs, from the beginning that it was recorded, all the way up until current time, it is just a spec compared to handguns that are obtained on the black market by criminals, who are always going to be able to buy handguns.
01:08:54.080To the second point, the video that you played, after the second one you played, there is this belief, I think, this progressive mindset, that a firearm, even though it is an inanimate object, is apparently a spiritual relic that can pass on to the person who possesses it, Megan, the ability to be, or it influences them to be good or evil.
01:09:15.660So, a good person is fine, you hand them a firearm, and suddenly that spiritual relic influences them to be evil.
01:09:22.720It's not them, Megan, it's not their own free will choices, it is the firearm.
01:09:27.260So, thus, the logic dictates, if we remove the firearm, then we remove all evil in the world, and there will never be any more murders, or crimes, or anything else.
01:09:38.000That's toddler logic, that's not anything that makes sense in a grown-up world, and we know that that's not the case, because you still see mass casualty incidents in all of these other countries that they mention.
01:09:49.880To say nothing of the violent crime rate over there, rape, terrorism, and also just basic freedom.
01:09:57.640Popularity, and what a European country does, has no bearing upon the rights that we have as United States citizens.
01:10:04.220And if any of, you know, these ladies on The View have a problem with that, they are free to purchase for themselves a one-way ticket and go over there, and then they can see what it's like to not have as much freedom to defend themselves as you have here.
01:10:15.040So, the whole point of that, and one other quick thing about Sonia Hassan, and I made this point online, nobody's worried about a deer busting up to their house in the middle of the night.
01:10:23.820They're worried about home invasions, and on average, it's actually more than one person, that's what nobody really talks about.
01:10:29.020And the most uncomfortable talking point that the left does not like about the Second Amendment, it's not even about any of those things.
01:10:36.540It's about curbing an out-of-control government, curbing their power and authority.
01:10:40.100That is an uncomfortable truth, the basis of the Second Amendment that the left doesn't want to acknowledge, so they always use this dumb talking point about deer.
01:10:48.700Well, Joe Biden was making a similar point, and he told this weird story.
01:10:54.540I've got to tell you, I have questions about whether this is true.
01:10:59.260I'm going to play it, though, but it's about his alleged encounter on, like, a Delaware Creek with an alleged hunter, and, you know, Joe Biden playing the tough guy.
01:11:11.100I was down in southern Delaware, doing a lot of hunting and fishing down there, and I was walking up one of the creek beds, and the guy standing there said, you want to take my gun?
01:12:21.520So, yeah, I don't think that happened.
01:12:23.140But, yeah, so you're a bad shot if you can't shoot your deer in less than 20 shots.
01:12:27.560You brought up a really good point about Secret Service and advancing that area.
01:12:30.800There's no way that you're going to have, you know, some, you know, hunter out there just when you have Joe Biden with all the Secret Service going out there into the woods.
01:12:38.960Just like I don't believe the whole thing about the trucker named Mama.
01:12:41.680And I also don't believe the story about his Freddy Krueger pool where there was a basement in the pool's gym and he went down there and some Freddy Krueger guy cut him a chain to go beat some weird gangster named after a cereal in the parking lot.
01:12:53.980So these are all stories that he just makes up.
01:12:57.420And, again, we're not worried about deer coming into our house.
01:12:59.780We're worried about, I don't know, people like in Shanghai, dragies out in the streets putting our pets in bags and beating them to death on camera.
01:13:06.420That's actually happening in Shanghai.
01:13:08.520We're worried about what we saw in Australia.
01:13:11.060So that's why that's why we have them.
01:13:33.020Wait, but we've talked about before, too, how.
01:13:34.760OK, so they're very clear on reporting the number of deaths caused by the use of a gun, but they don't.
01:13:41.480They're nowhere near as good as reporting the number of deaths prevented by use of a gun and all the good guys who have used guns in America to prevent violent crime from happening.
01:13:51.060And you look at things like what we saw in the New York City subway the other day with this guy.
01:13:55.340It's a miracle no one was killed, but he he shot 33 times.
01:14:01.600And if there had been more lax gun laws in New York, maybe somebody would have had a gun on that subway train and taken this guy out and saved a lot of people, a lot of heartache and life endangering injuries.
01:14:14.040Yeah, that's a good point, too, because, I mean, apparently the guy was acting, you know, really circumspect right when he walks in and he's looking around and he's got, you know, his weird backpack and everything else.
01:14:25.020I mean, I think if someone had been there, a good person who had been trained and who could, you know, rely upon their skill set, I mean, definitely, I absolutely think that that something like that could have been prevented.
01:14:36.080And the number because the number that gets thrown around a lot and they call it defensive gun uses, which is how they categorize it, how the feds categorize it.
01:14:44.080And it's anywhere between, you know, 500,000 to maybe 2 million.
01:14:48.560Sometimes people are more generous and they say two and a half million cases annually of a firearm that is used either in defense of a life.
01:14:55.720One of the reasons why there's such a wide number and a number of people have looked into this is because every different every different state and locality has a different way of reporting or counting whether it's considered a DGU.
01:15:06.640So sometimes if you're presenting, that's counted, sometimes it's not counted unless you're actually squeezing the trigger off at a criminal who's trying to, who's endangering your life.
01:15:15.860But we do know, though, that the number that is recorded of defensive gun usages does outweigh that of criminally used firearms.
01:15:23.840And I just think that that that has a place in this debate.
01:15:27.560If we're going to talk about restricting people based on what criminals do, why can't we talk about empowering people based on what the law abiding do lawfully with their lawfully owned property?
01:15:38.540That's never included in this entire debate.
01:15:41.100And it's never acknowledged by the administration, which is incredibly disingenuous.
01:15:44.180And it's why I just you just can't even get involved in the debate in the first place if we're not going to consider all the evidence.
01:15:49.420That's such a good point. And I hate that they don't point that out even on the view.
01:15:52.820They put on some, you know, nominal conservative that agrees with all the points made, right, like gives up the farm on all the gun debate, doesn't raise any of these these points because they don't want these points raised.
01:16:03.100But I'll I'll ask you this. This is this. I mean, this is for the audience.
01:16:06.600God forbid you were on the New York City subway and a crazed shooter came on, starts dropping smoke grenades and shooting people.
01:16:13.480Would you want a Joy Behar on your train or would you want an armed Dana Lash sitting there?
01:16:20.360Truly, I'd like me. I don't trust my security. Anybody.
01:16:24.380Ten. I wouldn't want what is she going to do? Scream about her truth to them.
01:16:28.380Is she going to be like, did you see the gun free zone signs?
01:16:31.460I mean, this is all the fault of the Supreme Court.
01:16:34.440Yeah, it still has to be decided by Supreme Court.
01:16:38.080And you say I would definitely rather rely on myself.
01:16:40.360I've got we've gone through so many. My husband and I have gone through so many hours of training where we've blown doors off of, you know, houses.
01:16:48.160I mean, not like actual houses that someone lives in.
01:16:50.420Like, you know, it's like a practice house that you run drills felony.
01:16:53.520Yeah. I'm just just blew the door off our front door, our front door off, Megan.
01:16:57.140But we've gone through active shooter drills, whether it's in something like a school, a house, a public area.
01:17:03.760I've done force on force training, have done night training.
01:17:06.200So because everyone always says that, oh, well, you're going to rise to the rise to the challenge that never happens.
01:17:12.920It's not like a movie. What happens is you fall back to your highest level of skills.
01:17:16.260You fall back to your highest level of training and you have to train frequently because you get rusty.
01:17:21.960What is it? I did ballet for a long time and my instructor would always say if somebody misses, you know, if you miss a day, only the dancer can tell.
01:17:29.060If you miss a week, the instructor can tell. And if you miss more than that, the audience can tell.
01:17:33.000It's kind of the same way with firearms training. You have to keep at it.
01:17:37.100You have to keep your skills sharp. And I want someone like that, whether it's myself or someone else in this horrific situation.
01:17:45.220I want someone who is humble enough to realize that they have to practice because they're not a superhuman.
01:17:50.920I want someone who's humble enough to realize that they have to fall back to their highest level of training and someone who is aware and responsible and who is also calm in a situation.
01:18:01.020It's got to be the calmest person in the room to figure your way out of something like that, because you have a lot of things to consider.
01:18:06.780You have other people there. You're in a train car. You're underground. Where are your exits?
01:18:11.780I mean, these are all things because when you're, you know, your fight or flight kicks in, everything slows down like the matrix and you're identifying all this stuff and you've got to figure out how you're going to act.
01:18:22.420And that's when your skills come in. So I want someone like that, not a Joy Behar, who advocates against all of those things.
01:18:29.420I want someone like that in the trench with me.
01:18:31.640And you know what? She would be so grateful to have you there, notwithstanding what she says.
01:20:16.840She appreciates him giving them a ride, which, of course, is not true, because according to the Washington Examiner, the Border Patrol has now stopped releasing migrants to, in particular, the town that called in Governor Abbott buses to D.C.
01:20:31.780So, in other words, the town that sent the migrants to D.C. was receiving way too many.
01:20:38.040They only have 16000 people and they've been dumping a thousand migrants per week in this little town.
01:20:42.900And that town is now reporting no sooner did this the news break that they were shipping them to D.C.
01:20:49.400Then suddenly they stopped releasing them into that town.
01:21:00.120She wants Governor Abbott and all the Texans to have to deal with this crisis.
01:21:03.740And she and her beautiful town in northern Virginia isn't going to have to see one person who they've let cross that border illegally.
01:21:11.940Yeah, well, that's a great point, Megan.
01:21:14.080And with Psaki, she doesn't have to bear the financial burden as a resident of Virginia for this either.
01:21:19.420I mean, I think it's I think what I think somewhere around a billion dollars, something I think is actually probably over that.
01:21:26.880What Texans actually have to spend to not only for the detention facilities, but also for Border Patrol and for any kind of Medicare services, educational services.
01:21:37.840Actually, it's way over a billion dollars.
01:21:39.020I forget the actual number, but it's a lot of money.
01:21:40.920And I asked AG Ken Paxson the other day, I'm like, do we get like a credit on our taxes, our theft from the government, you know, every year?
01:21:48.320I mean, we're all paying our fair share.
01:21:49.940Do we get a credit as Texans because of all of the money that we're having to spend for this federal?
01:21:57.260It's an it's an immigration program by way of not enforcing immigration law.
01:22:01.700I know that there are a number of lawsuits about this.
01:22:03.820But what gets me, Megan, about this is that there are Supreme Court cases.
01:22:07.420Prince V. U.S. comes to mind when it concerns the commandeering clause and federal programs and the government that cannot direct states to spend their physical or financial resources on these federal programs.
01:22:19.220Yet that's what that's what's happening in all of these border states.
01:22:21.760You know, back in the Obama-Biden years, Jan Brewer tried doing this.
01:22:26.520She was trying to send people back over the border when she was governor of Arizona.
01:22:29.760And that's when the Obama DOJ went after her.
01:22:32.120And then that was a Supreme Court case, Arizona versus the United States, where governor's hands were effectively tied.
01:22:38.220And they couldn't do a single thing about the crime.
01:22:51.680She's never been down there to the to the RGV sector in McAllen, Texas.
01:22:55.840She's never seen what these Border Patrol agents have to deal with.
01:22:59.140She hasn't seen the amount of ground that these Border Patrol agents, who, by the way, are predominantly Hispanic.
01:23:04.160And I know that's important to the left because they like to act like they're a bunch of white supremacists down there at the border,
01:23:08.680when actually these are Hispanics who realize how detrimental they're Americans.
01:23:13.100They don't want this stuff happening either.
01:23:15.120The United States is the only country not afforded the respect and grace to be able to determine who comes into our country and who doesn't.
01:23:23.140These border agents have miles and miles and miles, hundreds of miles of ground to cover.
01:23:27.600They can't get border agents to replace the ones that leave because it's a very stressful job.
01:23:56.760What usually happens is you'll have a group of people illegally crossing.
01:24:00.300And then while they're they they'll turn themselves into the Border Patrol.
01:24:03.120And while they're distracting Border Patrol, it's usually when you have like an illicit drug shipment, so to speak, that crosses the Rio, whether it's fentanyl or something else.
01:24:12.500So they'll try to distract Border Patrol and concentrate Border Patrol response with a bunch of like kids or, you know, a large group of people.
01:24:20.600And they were telling me how many times that happens a month.
01:24:23.640And they also told me the story of one time in a Border Patrol agent, just by the grace of God, happened to see this, saw a shiny reflective, something shining, reflective in the tall grass by the Rio, because not every area you can just like walk across where we were.
01:24:56.520I don't they don't know how long he was laying out.
01:24:58.920And this was in August three by on the banks of the Rio Grande down there in RGV.
01:25:05.100Super hot, super humid, mosquitoes, everything else awful.
01:25:09.140This is the type of stuff that we're dealing with.
01:25:10.760This is the type of stuff that federal inaction creates.
01:25:13.820They claim that they care about people, but they're completely fine with essentially working in partnership with these drug cartels and making them rich, enriching coyotes and advertising that people can come here and you're all taken care of.
01:25:29.000And it's chaos for these families who get this false advertising from an administration that only pretends to care about them during election periods.
01:26:01.360But the another reason we know is that the mayor of this town of forgive me, I don't know how to pronounce it, Uvalde, U-V-A-L-D-E, Texas, where they were releasing all these migrants.
01:26:14.780He said to the Washington Examiner that Mayorkas, our DHS chief, told the Border Patrol agents there, quote, to highly encourage these people not to get on any buses going to Washington, D.C.
01:26:28.980So they stopped dumping them in the town of Uvalde.
01:26:32.800And then he said to the migrants or to the Border Patrol agents to tell the migrants, do not get on a bus going to Washington, D.C.
01:26:39.640Don't get on one going to Delaware either.
01:26:41.620Probably they added you stay in beautiful Texas.
01:26:44.740That's the place you want to be in August.
01:26:46.040And then what this guy said, this McLaughlin, again, his name is Don McLaughlin, mayor of this town.
01:26:52.700He said, I think, quoting now from the Washington Examiner piece, stated 413, I think the government is trying to keep the governor's bus program quiet because if they come up there, they get out on the steps of the Capitol, the whole world will see what we're seeing in South Texas and along the southwest border every day.
01:27:08.740And that is not all about family units and young children, which is a tragedy, no question.
01:27:15.160But all of a sudden, what you're going to see is these young adult age males and females getting off buses, not families with kids.
01:27:31.580And that floor is a moment that they had that was encouraging people to just bring whatever kids over if they could find a rent a kid program, essentially.
01:27:38.240Where you could bring kids over and your their family unit was then justified to stay.
01:28:19.220What gets me about this, too, Megan, in terms of dissuading people to get on buses to go to Washington, D.C., I haven't seen any of the people who were traveling down to some of these detention facilities like a couple of years ago when they would take their field trips, their congressional field trips to go and do their poverty chic immigration tour down here.
01:28:39.440AOC standing by the fence and crying in her all white outfit, you know, good grief there.
01:29:33.900Do you think he's going to get through?
01:29:35.000Do you think the more moderate Dems like Manchin and so on are going to get behind this guy?
01:29:40.080He's just he's he's just dopey and boring enough that he might get more Democrat support than Mark Chipman did.
01:29:48.100For people to know, Mark Chipman literally came from the Bloomberg Giffords, you know, every town.
01:29:53.960He was like he had been a former ATF agent and then he went in to become a gun control advocate and he was making up all these stories about Waco and all this other stuff.
01:30:04.120And he made fun of people who believe in firearms for sale.
01:30:20.140He's a big supporter of universal background checks.
01:30:22.700But yet he can't articulate clearly how having universal background checks doesn't create a federal firearms registry where everybody in the government, you know, making those trustworthy people who handled all the FISA stuff in 2016 with Trump and with Carter Page.
01:30:36.860You know, all those folks, all those folks would get to know exactly how many firearms you have if we have universal background checks because you have you can't do it without a federal firearms registry.
01:30:47.120I think just on that basis alone, that support is a violation of the Firearm Owners Protection Act, which is passed in the 80s to protect average everyday folks like us from having, you know, federal firearms registering, the government knowing all of this stuff because he doesn't support what is established law.
01:31:19.460Unless their name's Stacey Abrams or Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or anyway, maybe he falls within that line because supposedly if you say it's rigged, you can no longer run for office ever again because you're.
01:31:30.000Well, Megan, Democrats, if they don't win elections, they're always rigged because, you know, Democrats should be elected.
01:31:36.160And if they are not elected, it's because the election is rigged and it was stolen from them.
01:31:40.440That's in every case throughout history.
01:31:42.580He's just a white male Stacey Abrams up there in Ohio.
01:32:00.160OK, up next, believe it or not, my team put together a compilation of just how bad I failed at giving up swearing for Lent, which may or may not be over.
01:32:31.820In any event, I shouldn't be swearing today.
01:32:33.760My attempt to give up swearing for Lent, well, it didn't go so well as listeners to this show know.
01:32:38.320In fact, it went so poorly that my team started keeping track and has apparently made a compilation of my many missteps for us to have a good laugh or a good cry.
01:32:50.880He had said, you want to talk about that piece of, and I can't say the word because I'm not swearing for Lent, doing very poorly, but trying.
01:34:06.300But I'm not going to be joining you because I took a vow, my Lenten vow, to give up swearing for Lent, and I have done the worst fucking job at it.
01:34:38.960I read them every day, so go ahead there, drop one.
01:34:41.060And coming up next week, I am excited about Monday's show, the man who led the U.S. hockey team in one of the most iconic moments in American history.
01:34:53.140Oh, who could forget the miracle on ice?
01:35:06.220The captain of that team, Michael Ruzzioni, is here to talk about the enduring legacy of that moment, whether something like that could ever happen again in a country that feels so divided right now.
01:35:17.520And what does he think about what's happening with Russia, the United States, and the latest showdowns that we find ourselves in?
01:35:24.520Quite a different world, although how different is it, right, from 1980 when that happened in the Olympics?
01:35:29.820Can't wait to meet him and talk to him.