The Megyn Kelly Show - The Truth About Biden's Decline, and the Liberal Meltdown Over Elon Musk with Buck Sexton and Dana Loesch ｜ Ep. 301

00:00:00.460 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.660 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.

00:00:16.260 We're going to get to all of the latest developments on Elon Musk's battle for Twitter.

00:00:21.360 But first, the White House is on defense today following a series of self-inflicted controversies.

00:00:26.740 First, there's outgoing Press Secretary Jen Psaki trying to convince reporters not to believe their lying eyes 1.00

00:00:32.980 after Vice President Kamala Harris was repeatedly caught ignoring the government's own guidance on masking.

00:00:39.760 You see, you have to do it, but she doesn't because she's special and you're not.

00:00:47.240 And to top it off, the White House released video evidence proving that Vice President Harris was, in fact, going maskless.

00:00:55.660 I say the White House released that.

00:00:58.580 Psaki also apparently just took a very cheap shot at Fox News' White House reporter Peter Doocy.

00:01:04.180 You know, she goes on this left-wing podcast and she gets all Lucy Doocy and attacks Peter Doocy 0.99

00:01:10.160 and really sort of shows her unprofessionalism on it. 0.99

00:01:13.980 She'll fit right in at MSNBC. 0.95

00:01:15.620 We're going to get to that as well.

00:01:16.880 But perhaps the most disturbing of all is the way that the administration is handling the President of the United States.

00:01:21.860 Yesterday, the President spoke at a historically Black college in North Carolina, but it's not his remarks that are making news.

00:01:28.160 Instead, it is how he walked off the stage that's causing some alarm, confusion, and, of course, downright mean responses online.

00:01:37.620 Joining me now to dissect it all, the co-host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show.

00:01:47.440 Buck Sexton, welcome to the show.

00:01:49.420 Great to have you here.

00:01:50.380 Thanks, Megan.

00:01:51.200 All right.

00:01:51.440 So let's kick it off with the wandering Biden video.

00:01:54.000 It's very strange, especially coming on the heels when Obama went to the White House last week

00:01:58.780 and you saw a wandering Biden there just seeming a little disoriented.

00:02:02.480 And then his media sort of defenders were like, no, no, you're misrepresenting.

00:02:07.300 And actually, we had our team take a hard look at the video in full to see if we were misrepresenting

00:02:12.020 because we hadn't said anything about it.

00:02:13.940 And the media wasn't misrepresenting that.

00:02:16.040 He really looked lost and no one wanted to be with him.

00:02:18.720 And, you know, he was sort of like the unattractive girl at the prom.

00:02:22.300 Sorry, but it's true.

00:02:23.980 And now we get this.

00:02:25.580 Let's watch it.

00:02:26.380 I don't know what's happening here, but it's not good for him.

00:02:29.660 And it's not good for the country.

00:02:31.420 God bless you.

00:02:56.380 I don't know what's happening for the for the listening audience.

00:03:02.900 It's almost like he's in a glass box.

00:03:05.500 He's at the lectern.

00:03:07.100 He turns around looking at the drapes.

00:03:09.500 It's almost as like as if he bumps into the drapes.

00:03:12.520 He turns left.

00:03:14.460 Stops.

00:03:14.860 He turns right.

00:03:16.180 Stops.

00:03:16.740 But it's like he's boxed in a glass box and then he sort of meanders off stage

00:03:20.560 and speaks to somebody who doesn't actually appear to be there.

00:03:23.160 What do you make of it?

00:03:24.580 Joe Biden is cognitively declining.

00:03:27.320 And, you know, Megan, I always am of two minds about this from a from a commentary perspective,

00:03:32.580 because on the one hand, there's the this is reckless and was all along to make somebody

00:03:39.360 his age and his stage of life, the president of the United States.

00:03:42.700 And also just he's been visibly declining for a long time.

00:03:46.840 And then on the other side of it, I also just feel the sympathy for watching somebody.

00:03:51.180 I mean, I had a grandfather who I remember was just very similar in his his movements

00:03:59.280 and the the stammer and the just this is what happens when you're basically 80 years old,

00:04:05.140 give or take, and you've reached that stage of life where you need to slow things down

00:04:09.160 and think about other things.

00:04:10.240 You should not be the commander in chief of a country that is having a lot of problems.

00:04:14.800 And a lot of the problems, I think, are a direct result of the decision making of the

00:04:19.860 actual Biden administration.

00:04:21.840 So on the one hand, I want to point out what a farce this is and say what an outrage it

00:04:26.800 is that somebody who it was just irresponsible.

00:04:30.460 It's not even a function of I don't think Joe Biden has good ideas, which I don't or I

00:04:34.160 don't think that Joe Biden was ever up for this, even on his best day, which I also think

00:04:38.720 is true.

00:04:39.600 I mean, this was always beyond the pale.

00:04:41.100 Well, I assumed at the beginning of the Democrat primary, the Democrat voters would see it

00:04:45.920 as such.

00:04:47.120 But because of covid and because of the ability to really physically and visually hide him

00:04:52.800 from everybody, they figured, oh, we can get away with this.

00:04:55.760 Joe Biden's got the name recognition in association with Obama.

00:04:58.400 So they did it.

00:04:59.560 I mean, Dianne Feinstein, Megan, I'm sure you saw that article.

00:05:03.160 Dianne Feinstein is is she were the president, for example.

00:05:07.340 There would be an absolute necessity to remove her from office with the 25th Amendment because 1.00

00:05:12.620 she literally cannot do her job in the Senate anymore because of age related infirmity. 0.99

00:05:17.940 And she's still a senator. 0.98

00:05:19.560 This is not OK.

00:05:20.880 This is not what's supposed to happen.

00:05:22.620 But I think the Democrats have one overriding principle, if you could even call it that, which

00:05:27.060 is power and the pursuit thereof.

00:05:29.300 And so they're willing to to just keep pushing forward these political brands that need to

00:05:34.520 stop.

00:05:34.920 They need to do something else.

00:05:35.960 You've got Biden, you've got Feinstein, you've got Pelosi.

00:05:39.980 Even Fauci is in the same age category as all these folks.

00:05:43.960 And these are the people making decisions that affect, you know, for example, kids as young

00:05:48.480 as two, you know, across America.

00:05:50.720 They're making our policies.

00:05:52.840 I was listening to I think it was John Podoritz, but they were talking about how one of the promises

00:05:58.460 of Biden was, you know, he was going to be the adult, right?

00:06:02.000 Restore reason and the adult back in the room.

00:06:05.020 And he was going to be the non-emotional measured guy, right?

00:06:10.460 I don't think we anticipated he was going to be this apparently non-compass mentis.

00:06:15.900 I mean, he really doesn't seem together, nor has he been the unemotional guy in the room,

00:06:21.100 right?

00:06:21.280 He's he's angry all the time.

00:06:23.540 He's firing off mean little comments about Peter Doocy, who's back in the news today,

00:06:28.480 is being attacked by Jen Psaki as well.

00:06:31.040 He doesn't seem he is sort of turning into the get off my lawn old guy who you're like,

00:06:36.300 oh, it's my it's my upset older neighbor.

00:06:39.860 But he's got massive problems.

00:06:42.080 And it's not just Putin's war in Ukraine.

00:06:44.340 I mean, we had Peter Schiff on this show yesterday talking about the calamity of these economic

00:06:49.640 numbers about the inflation and how the Fed is far from being able to solve this is probably

00:06:55.220 going to make it worse and how any politician would make it worse. 0.98

00:06:59.300 But Joe Biden, who hasn't shown much of a spine to take on his base on anything, is really going

00:07:03.880 to make it worse.

00:07:04.820 It's getting a little frightening.

00:07:08.200 No, it's it's irresponsible and it is unsettling.

00:07:11.460 I think that Democrats are really showing what they're all about by continuing to pretend

00:07:17.020 that we can't all see what we see.

00:07:20.320 And I think this has become a much more common feature of arguments that you hear from the

00:07:24.880 left, which is that objective reality isn't what we can all recognize it is as being.

00:07:30.100 It's something that they tell us it is.

00:07:32.320 Joe Biden's not up for this.

00:07:33.880 Joe Biden shouldn't be the president anymore.

00:07:35.160 They used to have conversations frequently about the 25th Amendment under Donald Trump.

00:07:40.280 We remember this.

00:07:40.800 There were major news publications that would print editorials or they would have whole news

00:07:45.500 cycles over at CNN, the pretend journalism channel. 0.99

00:07:49.820 And they would say that it's time to remove Donald Trump because he's crazy.

00:07:54.760 Donald Trump was doing I mean, you know, you and I, Megan, both do a lot of live performance 0.56

00:07:58.880 unscripted.

00:07:59.520 Donald Trump was at that point doing two, three hour rallies off the cuff in front of

00:08:05.640 60,000 people and, you know, getting uproarious applause and saying clever things.

00:08:12.160 Look, you can disagree with him.

00:08:13.340 You can hate him.

00:08:13.980 You can say you don't like his stuff.

00:08:15.480 But to say that he didn't seem like he was mentally sharp enough.

00:08:18.360 That was just a that was just a fantasy that the left had.

00:08:20.980 But they kept saying it all the time.

00:08:23.140 And I think with Joe Biden right now, what you're seeing is what many of us expected from

00:08:27.660 the beginning.

00:08:28.340 This guy's a machine politician.

00:08:30.740 He has benefited tremendously from the association with Obama, of course, in terms of his his

00:08:38.020 Democrat branding.

00:08:39.580 The only reason he was able to win the primary was because of the African-American primary

00:08:43.900 vote voters who supported him so strongly.

00:08:47.760 I think because he had been Obama's vice president for eight years and there was a sort of a fond

00:08:52.600 association that came from that.

00:08:54.960 And I think when you look at Joe Biden's record, there's nothing to suggest leadership skills,

00:09:01.900 vision or or excellence in any regard.

00:09:04.720 I mean, this is a guy who's been running the oldest politician scam imaginable, which is

00:09:10.180 roll up the sleeves, say, you know, folks and y'all, when you think you're going to connect

00:09:14.100 with the audience, talk about writing the Amtrak, you know, the choo choo, be blue collar Joe.

00:09:19.220 Everybody knows blue collar Joe.

00:09:20.900 Look at the big grin.

00:09:21.940 He's got the Irish charm. 1.00

00:09:23.820 He's actually kind of a jerk and has been for a long time. 1.00

00:09:26.720 He's not a very nice guy and lies a lot. 1.00

00:09:29.080 And you look at his political record and it's just a big mess.

00:09:33.220 So, I mean, the fact that Democrats elected this guy, it was like we we created some or

00:09:39.320 they created some cypher during a pandemic and just said, well, he's not Trump.

00:09:43.780 And that was it.

00:09:45.340 We'll come back to the use of the pandemic as an excuse for lots of things when we get

00:09:51.480 to the discussion about crime and guns.

00:09:54.940 But he's he's just in Iowa.

00:09:57.960 He's going to run again.

00:09:59.640 That's certainly how it appears.

00:10:01.160 And that's notwithstanding the fact that the lady is the latest Quinnipiac poll puts him

00:10:06.560 at 33 percent approval, 33 percent approval.

00:10:11.580 It shows Democrats are still hanging on in their support, 76 to 12 in terms of approval

00:10:16.940 of his performance.

00:10:17.820 Independents disapprove 56 to 26 percent.

00:10:20.680 Republicans disapprove 94 to three.

00:10:23.300 Hispanic voters, 26 percent approval rating of Joe Biden.

00:10:26.120 And it goes on the young people, just a 21 percent approval rating amongst 21 to 34 year

00:10:33.060 olds.

00:10:34.260 Terrible marks on handling of Ukraine.

00:10:37.340 And on it goes, not to mention the economy, which is heading in entirely the wrong direction.

00:10:42.720 So how do they run him again?

00:10:45.520 Again, truly, like, can they possibly run him again?

00:10:50.120 But then can they possibly boot him out?

00:10:52.980 So this is fascinating because I have this discussion with, of course, my co-host Clay.

00:10:57.620 It feels like on a regular basis.

00:10:59.060 And also everybody else I talk to regularly in conservative media and we all have different

00:11:05.380 theories.

00:11:05.780 And I'll tell you where I think this is going.

00:11:08.940 I think that Joe Biden and his handlers who really it feels a bit like this is presidency

00:11:14.740 by committee, because I think that whether it's Ron Klain or it's a phone call from Obama

00:11:20.540 or any number of people with close access to this president, he does what the people around

00:11:26.780 him indicate he should do.

00:11:28.360 I don't think he has a strong will of his own to push any of this stuff.

00:11:31.380 Look, he is not a woke guy and he's the figurehead of a very left wing Democrat party.

00:11:38.660 I mean, my my best recent example of this is Joe Biden is for his White House.

00:11:44.720 And this is official White House policy papers that have come out are in favor of gender transition,

00:11:51.200 including surgery and hormones.

00:11:53.620 Yes.

00:11:54.080 For prepubescent children. 0.54

00:11:55.780 I mean, if you ask Joe Biden what a pansexual is, I mean, you know, Mr. Magoo would look 1.00

00:12:01.000 even more confused here.

00:12:02.220 And we all know that there's something really off about Joe Biden leading a party that has

00:12:07.360 gone so hard left in so many ways.

00:12:09.480 By the way, I think that's in part of why the the youth polling is so against him, because

00:12:14.580 he's not even delivering for the Bernie Sanders, you know, AOC crowd.

00:12:18.200 Of course, Bernie Sanders is not a young guy either.

00:12:20.560 But, you know, as to whether he'll run again, I think he believes that he can beat Donald

00:12:26.000 Trump again.

00:12:26.840 I'm not saying he can't.

00:12:28.120 I'm saying I think Joe Biden believes and the people around him believe he could beat

00:12:31.420 Donald Trump again.

00:12:32.840 I think if it weren't Donald Trump on the Republican ticket, the smarter Democrats would

00:12:38.080 realize that it's it's not a good matchup for them at all.

00:12:42.820 I think it would be too obvious at that point that Joe Biden's decline, his poor results

00:12:48.740 would be too much of a liability.

00:12:50.740 And so then you get into what happens.

00:12:53.600 And that's in almost a sense.

00:12:55.500 Let's say that because when you're, Megan, 80 years old, give or take, and you say and

00:12:59.980 at that point, he'd be maybe 81 getting closer to 82.

00:13:03.160 You say, yeah, for health reasons, I'm not going to run again.

00:13:05.780 I mean, he could make that decision any day and everybody would have to say, OK, I mean,

00:13:10.360 that's real.

00:13:10.920 That's not no one's going to say that that's fake excuse.

00:13:14.100 So he had been out whenever he wants it.

00:13:16.640 So then is it Kamala who steps in?

00:13:19.560 And I think Democrats recognize they get annihilated.

00:13:22.600 Or does it become Hillary? 0.99

00:13:24.560 I mean, oh, God, those seem to be the only options.

00:13:27.340 Stop it.

00:13:27.640 What I've heard people say, Pete Buttigieg, which is a joke, too.

00:13:30.920 I mean, none of these people is going to beat Trump or anybody else.

00:13:34.500 I mean, Trump is both the strongest and the weakest for various reasons.

00:13:38.320 He's got that core piece of the Republican base.

00:13:41.280 But in a general election, he stirs up anti-GOP emotion like none other.

00:13:47.240 And there is a question about whether the GOP base that loves Trump will come out for even

00:13:51.300 a DeSantis.

00:13:52.320 I can't imagine they'd miss the opportunity to to get Biden slash Harris out of there.

00:13:57.080 But as we get closer, we'll see.

00:13:59.480 Hey, as an aside, they the GOP announced yesterday, the Republican National Committee,

00:14:03.640 they voted unanimously to not participate in the Commission on Presidential Debates sponsored

00:14:10.360 debates, meaning those general election debates, not like the primary debates where you have

00:14:14.400 10, 12 people on the stage that get farmed out to all the news channels.

00:14:18.520 But the sort of the big general election debates where they choose a Chris Wallace or, you

00:14:24.400 know, whomever to sort of moderate.

00:14:27.040 And so they said that we're not doing it because they're just they're stacked against Republicans.

00:14:30.940 We don't believe in the fairness.

00:14:32.680 Do you think it was the right call?

00:14:34.800 It's 100 percent the right call.

00:14:36.780 I mean, I think it's it's stunning when you think about how many years here I've seen.

00:14:43.900 And look, I'll say this. One of one of Trump's mistakes was that he seemed to have a fondness

00:14:49.620 to sit down with The New York Times and and want to give them long form interviews and

00:14:55.480 long form conversations.

00:14:56.580 And why they're there?

00:14:59.220 They're they're anti-Trump media.

00:15:01.080 I mean, they're there to essentially tear down your administration.

00:15:03.860 They have no interest in fairness.

00:15:05.460 CNN became an anti-Trump network for four years.

00:15:09.320 Now, it's not like they were fair before any of this.

00:15:11.640 But when Trump came along, they all of a sudden said, we're not even going to put a mask on

00:15:16.100 about this. Yeah, they dropped the veil.

00:15:17.700 Yeah, we're just going to go for it.

00:15:19.580 Right. We're we're now to to be honest and truthful and factual means to be anti-Trump.

00:15:25.120 That became their official party line at places like CNN, The New York Times, you know, all

00:15:29.700 of the high temples of leftist media.

00:15:32.580 So, yeah, I think it's absolutely the right move.

00:15:35.580 And there's just no need for it.

00:15:37.060 I mean, these the GOP voter has no the GOP voter who pays attention to the media has absolutely

00:15:43.320 zero respect for the impartiality.

00:15:45.780 That's not the same thing for, you know, the ability, the question asking and answering,

00:15:51.920 et cetera. I mean, some of these people are very skilled, but they're partisans.

00:15:55.000 And there's no reason to have someone sit there and have really, in my mind, a lunatic

00:16:01.500 lib, like whether it's John Harwood or I mean, Candy Crowley is no longer at CNN.

00:16:07.500 I'm trying to think of some of the people that have gotten controversial over there about

00:16:11.140 these things.

00:16:12.060 But even the ones that that pretend to play it more down the line, they do until they

00:16:15.620 don't. You know, they do until it's a critical moment.

00:16:17.780 So, yeah, Megan, it's absolutely the right move.

00:16:19.820 I don't know why the GOP allowed its candidates to get sort of punched in the face and have

00:16:23.840 dirt kicked in their faces for as long as they did.

00:16:26.300 Why? We don't need these. 0.97

00:16:27.260 We don't need these channels.

00:16:28.400 These moderators makes no sense.

00:16:29.960 I agree with you.

00:16:30.600 When do they ever select a moderator whose personal bias might lean right?

00:16:35.480 Name one who.

00:16:36.740 Right.

00:16:37.040 Like, who's the one they've ever chosen who, you know, is a lifelong Republican voter and

00:16:42.600 who's been criticized once or twice for taking the Republican line instead of the Democrat

00:16:46.720 line?

00:16:47.080 Right. Like, it doesn't happen.

00:16:49.240 Lester Holt is reportedly a Republican.

00:16:51.340 To his credit, you wouldn't know that in his reporting.

00:16:53.720 I don't think that he's a liberal shill either.

00:16:56.080 But his questions are written for him.

00:16:57.980 I can speak to this by producers.

00:17:00.140 So he just goes out there and he asks what the producers tell him to ask.

00:17:04.080 And Lester's not exactly known for his follow up questions at a debate or elsewhere.

00:17:08.640 And so the left gets what it's what it wants anyway.

00:17:11.800 Right.

00:17:12.040 I mean, they're not going to put somebody like a Buck Sexton or a Clay Travis.

00:17:16.860 They might they might put a me out there.

00:17:19.500 I don't know about today, but they they want somebody who is reliably left.

00:17:24.680 That's really what they're looking for.

00:17:26.660 One big change that I think has occurred in the mentality of the right as we know it in

00:17:32.840 this country is the abandonment of the false idea of the neutral space, meaning that whether

00:17:40.380 it's what your kids are being taught in school or the news you're being presented, the the

00:17:46.560 podcast you're listening to about the news, whatever it is, there is no, you know, the

00:17:51.520 decisions that the board of a major company is making, especially with regard to not just

00:17:55.940 personnel policy, but political donations and all the rest of it.

00:17:58.960 There's no neutral space.

00:18:00.380 People are making choices.

00:18:01.780 It's all life is all editorial at some level.

00:18:05.180 So, yeah, there are facts.

00:18:06.840 There's objective truth.

00:18:08.060 But how these things are presented really makes a major difference.

00:18:12.060 And the schools, I think, is the most classic example of this.

00:18:16.360 All the corporations now are right alongside it, where everybody who's a conservative says,

00:18:21.340 wait, hold on a second.

00:18:22.460 You mean that wokeness has taken over not just schools in blue states, schools all across the 1.00

00:18:26.940 country and extreme wokeness.

00:18:28.840 I just wanted my kids to learn math and and reading.

00:18:32.540 And this other stuff is going on.

00:18:34.360 Yes, because it is not a neutral space.

00:18:36.440 You have to pay attention to what is actually being taught to your children about the history

00:18:40.100 of this country, about social studies, about everything, because the left has essentially

00:18:45.620 seized all of what I refer to as the apparatus.

00:18:48.780 I mean, they've seized the systems of power and institutional control in this country, not

00:18:54.340 through popular acclaim, not necessarily through majority or majority voter, even majority

00:18:59.480 opinion, just because they understand where the levers of power are.

00:19:03.240 And they have seized them.

00:19:04.060 They've seized them in academia and Hollywood and news media and obviously in social media.

00:19:08.040 And we're kind of waking up to this now in a way that is finally spurring people to

00:19:13.180 action.

00:19:13.600 So I think the Presidential Debate Commission is just an example of that.

00:19:16.360 Yeah, I think it's a I definitely think it's the right call.

00:19:19.640 I don't think the RNC should have been participating in this for quite some time.

00:19:22.280 And I think no one's going to care.

00:19:24.100 I mean, they're going to there's going to be some pressure.

00:19:26.040 Maybe they'll find some way, maybe make it a pay per view.

00:19:28.420 You know, like the GOP candidate picks one moderator and the the Dem candidate picks another

00:19:35.160 moderator and they sit out there and they go and all the profits go to charity.

00:19:38.840 But why should the GOP help line the pockets of all these channels that absolutely loathe

00:19:44.480 them and and be subjected to moderators who just time after time have proven they're going

00:19:49.480 to put their thumb on the scale for for the Dem.

00:19:52.100 Speaking of Chris Wallace, what do you make of CNN pluses debut this past week or two?

00:19:59.800 I do love all of the jokes about how while Elon is offering to buy Twitter for tens of billions,

00:20:05.500 there are lots of people out there right now who are willing to buy CNN plus for tens of

00:20:11.160 dollars or the equivalent thereof.

00:20:14.700 Look, they CNN is a legacy media institution.

00:20:19.060 I think someone said they'd pay 38 bucks for it instead of 38 billion or 48 billion, whatever

00:20:23.020 Elon offered.

00:20:25.620 There's no reason to believe that CNN was ever going to be able to pull this off if you looked

00:20:30.440 at it objectively.

00:20:31.140 I think I think Trump broke CNN.

00:20:34.140 I think that they have still really not emotionally recovered from that.

00:20:38.780 If you look at the leadership there, it was run by bad people. 0.99

00:20:43.420 I mean, Jeff Zucker is a nasty, dishonest person. 0.97

00:20:45.860 I worked there for a little while. 0.99

00:20:47.340 I know all kinds of stories.

00:20:49.480 One of the fun things, Megan, when you're just, you know, when you're just a lowly contributor

00:20:54.620 to some of these places, you know, you become friends with the PAs and the APs and the

00:20:59.640 and the personal assistants and you get to kind of know the other people at your level

00:21:04.420 and they know everything about these individuals.

00:21:06.240 So nothing about Chris Cuomo was surprising to me.

00:21:09.980 Nothing about Jeff Zucker was surprising to me.

00:21:12.300 And just go down the list.

00:21:13.840 I mean, that's obviously on the just, you know, on the malfeasance side of the equation.

00:21:19.260 And that's why those guys got booted.

00:21:21.360 But beyond that, I'm sorry, I just get so wrapped up in trashing CNN because it's such

00:21:26.220 a fraudulent, even the people over there, by the way, who were supposed to be honest

00:21:30.300 brokers.

00:21:30.960 I mean, Jake Tapper is a lib activist. 0.99

00:21:33.140 I mean, he's and he's kind of a nasty guy.

00:21:35.320 So it's not a surprise when people on the right react really poorly to, oh, well, we can

00:21:40.720 have, you know, we have some CNN people who are right down.

00:21:43.540 No, they actually aren't right down the line.

00:21:45.560 He I will say he's my if I have to pick a favorite CNN or it's Jake.

00:21:48.600 I mean, I have a personal friendship with the guy, so I have that bias.

00:21:51.980 Oh, you should always stand up for your friends.

00:21:53.780 And I appreciate that.

00:21:54.860 I think he's on Twitter for no reason. 0.91

00:21:57.020 And I think he's a fraud.

00:21:58.160 So, you know, this is all professional. 0.69

00:21:59.880 I don't even know.

00:22:00.800 Yeah.

00:22:01.240 But you look at to your point, you look at the primetime lineup at CNN and they they've

00:22:05.480 all jumped on board.

00:22:06.960 I mean, they're all suffering Trump derangement syndrome.

00:22:09.100 There isn't a person left in the primetime lineup that's even trying to pretend to be fair.

00:22:13.960 And it's extended past Trump into just the GOP.

00:22:17.460 I mean, now it's in the wake of Trump.

00:22:19.940 You wonder, like, are they going to go back to their normal selves like to?

00:22:22.660 Well, I guess this is the normal self, the new normal.

00:22:24.420 But like, are they going to go back to trying to be fair to both sides?

00:22:27.560 And the answer is no.

00:22:29.340 Otherwise, Don Lemon would be fired and Anderson Cooper would have reined it in by now.

00:22:34.360 And that's not happening.

00:22:35.620 But just one other point. 0.96

00:22:37.200 Who is the moron at CNN who actually thought, you know what we need with our ratings in the 1.00

00:22:40.560 toilet? 1.00

00:22:41.160 More of us.

00:22:42.280 We need more CNN.

00:22:43.220 There's more appetite for these anchors who no one will watch when it's free.

00:22:47.520 Well, ish in primetime.

00:22:49.820 And they're going to pay extra out of their pocket to watch them cook or talk about books

00:22:54.120 or interview people who are about 200 years old.

00:22:58.100 Yeah, it made no sense.

00:22:59.840 And honestly, Chris Wallace, whom, again, I don't know.

00:23:03.920 I don't know, Jake, personally.

00:23:04.860 I don't know Chris personally.

00:23:05.900 I mean, these are not people that I have spoken to.

00:23:08.160 So I'm judging them by their work and the decisions that they make publicly.

00:23:11.360 Obviously, Chris Wallace and obviously comes from a famous journalism family and I think

00:23:16.960 was very fortunate to have the role that he did at Fox for as long as he did and get

00:23:22.080 paid the kind of salary that he did over there.

00:23:24.560 He was last.

00:23:25.200 He was in the last place every every week, every year, every month.

00:23:28.660 Yeah, he was always in the last.

00:23:29.820 And they still paid him.

00:23:30.460 I mean, he was he was overpaid and it was nepotism to begin with.

00:23:33.880 And then he decides he's going to go over there.

00:23:36.040 Why?

00:23:36.480 Who's going to who's going to shift over to CNN?

00:23:38.700 But the bigger problem for me, Megan, is the notion that CNN is a more ethical or because

00:23:44.760 that's really what he was saying.

00:23:45.800 I can't be at Fox anymore because Fox is honest about what it is.

00:23:50.140 Fox left and just interject interject.

00:23:51.980 He left after the Tucker Carlson January 6th special, which he said was just like the

00:23:58.480 last straw for him in an interview with The New York Times and sort of looking to curry

00:24:02.500 favor, obviously, with, I guess, the left or the mainstream, you know, like Tucker.

00:24:06.580 That's he was too much for me.

00:24:09.120 It's like, who's your fan base?

00:24:11.920 He said it was the last straw, meaning that he couldn't take it.

00:24:14.520 You know, there was so much going on over there.

00:24:16.240 Yeah, because there was so much that was, you know, journalistically unethical.

00:24:20.820 CNN pretended that Donald Trump was a Putin puppet for four years and colluded with intelligence

00:24:27.140 elements as well as other media organizations and the Democrat Party to lie, to lie about a sitting

00:24:34.000 president, to try to have an internal coup to remove him from office using really third

00:24:39.680 world tactics and has never owned up to this at all, has never owned up to this at all.

00:24:44.440 Right.

00:24:44.920 You know, the publishing of the dossier and then the pushing the dossier on everybody and

00:24:48.880 having the meeting with Clapper, all of this stuff.

00:24:51.300 Megan, it was all lies, the whole thing.

00:24:53.640 Right.

00:24:54.060 And then they had these these 51 people who said that the laptop from some of whom I worked

00:24:59.260 for, by the way, said that the laptop was a lie and the laptop was Russian disinformation,

00:25:05.820 I should say, they all get, you know, they're all like CNN contributors and MSNBC contributors.

00:25:11.540 I mean, I keep going to CNN.

00:25:12.480 There's a lot of these places.

00:25:13.740 So on what in what world is Chris Wallace going to CNN because it's so ethical and journalistic?

00:25:19.060 I think he's delusioned.

00:25:20.020 It's a good point.

00:25:21.360 And you wonder, like, who's his fan base?

00:25:23.540 Right.

00:25:23.740 It's like so he's doing look who's talking to Chris Wallace, I think, is the name of the

00:25:27.140 show.

00:25:27.960 And it's like, OK, that you are in fourth place on Fox News for the entirety of your career

00:25:34.720 on Fox News Sunday.

00:25:35.980 So no one was choosing to watch you.

00:25:38.140 But Roger was loyal to him.

00:25:40.040 And then they kept him in place after Roger Ailes left and then died.

00:25:44.080 And now you're going to jump to CNN because why?

00:25:47.080 You think the liberals are going to love you because you were tough on Trump for all those

00:25:51.400 years?

00:25:52.060 They're not.

00:25:52.720 They saw you as a useful foil.

00:25:54.880 And to me, like when I was deciding whether I was going to stay at Fox or leave Fox and

00:25:59.420 I decided to leave Fox because I wanted to see my children.

00:26:02.060 And it just there wasn't a rule there for me that would allow me to sort of do what

00:26:06.560 I wanted to do and still see my kids.

00:26:09.220 I considered going to CNN.

00:26:10.800 CNN made me a huge offer.

00:26:13.460 Huge.

00:26:14.160 Jeff Zucker.

00:26:15.180 And I said no, Buck, because I knew who's my fan base going to be over there.

00:26:20.740 I don't you know, I knew who my fans were and I knew that my Fox viewers were not going

00:26:24.780 to follow me to CNN and that the CNN viewers were going to hate my guts.

00:26:28.300 So I decided to sort of get out of the politics game and go do morning TV and to try to do

00:26:32.640 something that was more Oprah-esque, which was a disaster for different reasons.

00:26:36.220 But I understood switching sort of political ships was not going to lead to success either.

00:26:43.200 And I can see him suffering from that very problem right now as CNN plus literally the

00:26:49.260 reports are that it has 10,000 subscribers.

00:26:51.760 I mean, I think Abby's got more people than that following her on Twitter and she's not 0.97

00:26:56.880 on Twitter.

00:26:58.260 Look, I think I think in our business and especially maybe some people who have been doing this

00:27:03.100 all along, and I know you came from a legal background beforehand.

00:27:06.740 I was a CIA analyst beforehand.

00:27:08.660 I think that they they forget how much luck actually plays a role in all of this and how

00:27:16.580 to be paid a lot of money to be on TV, to do a job that honestly, a thousand other people

00:27:21.460 could do.

00:27:21.880 Maybe not quite as well, though, in the case of Chris Wallace, I think, honestly, you

00:27:25.000 know, there were a lot of people that could do that job.

00:27:27.160 You know, I all along I was like, you know, I would prefer Brett Baer in this role.

00:27:30.880 But, you know, that's just me.

00:27:31.700 Point being, I think that people, the moment you lose that sense of humility, that you're

00:27:38.620 really lucky and that you should just focus on the work and doing the best work every

00:27:43.040 day.

00:27:44.260 There's a lot of egomaniacs in our business, as you know, and there are people that all

00:27:47.420 of a sudden think that they're super special and really important and they deserve enormous

00:27:52.180 salaries that aren't actually commensurate with what their value would be outside of very

00:27:56.320 narrow context of a few executives at a certain organization that may like them or want to

00:28:01.040 support them.

00:28:02.320 And I, you know, I mean, I know Chris Wallace is making a lot of money over at CNN.

00:28:05.580 He's never going to have an audience.

00:28:06.880 No one's ever.

00:28:07.860 So the thing about the daily fits and him being angry, it's never, never going to happen.

00:28:11.620 So good luck, buddy.

00:28:13.720 Yeah, good luck.

00:28:14.540 Well, meantime, Jen Psaki, as all these White House press secretaries do, I mean, they all

00:28:19.060 what they really want is to be stars.

00:28:21.400 I'm sorry, but it's true.

00:28:22.600 They take that job because what they really want is to host a cable news show.

00:28:25.820 And I could go down the list of people who have successfully used it or try to use it to

00:28:30.340 parlay themselves into a cable news job.

00:28:32.480 And Jen Psaki is the latest who now wants to be at MSNBC having her own show. 1.00

00:28:37.340 I mean, while she's doing these negotiations behind the scenes while she's still hosting 0.53

00:28:40.960 this, having this job as White House press secretary.

00:28:46.300 And what does she do? 0.94

00:28:47.920 She's making the rounds. 0.89

00:28:49.020 She's going on Pod Saves America.

00:28:52.140 The far left Obama guys have their podcast, which is popular with liberals. 1.00

00:28:56.540 And while on there, she gets asked about Peter Doocy and whether basically he's a jerk. 0.98

00:29:04.540 And do we have the soundbite? 0.99

00:29:05.860 I'm just trying to see if we do.

00:29:08.080 Oh, we don't have it because they don't release it until later today. 1.00

00:29:10.680 But they ask her basically if he's some sort of an asshole. 0.99

00:29:14.000 Forgive me. 1.00

00:29:14.600 That doesn't count from my Lenten vow because I am quoting somebody else.

00:29:18.000 And she basically says, oh, he works for a network that feeds its questions to people 0.97

00:29:24.060 in a way that would make anybody sound like it's like a jerk, like it like a blank. 0.95

00:29:28.480 And I'm thinking to myself, number one, I've worked at Fox News and they actually, unlike 0.96

00:29:34.540 NBC News, they don't feed the anchor the questions.

00:29:37.740 Fox News.

00:29:38.320 I laugh when I went over to NBC and they were like, here, the producer's writing all the

00:29:41.420 questions for you.

00:29:41.860 I'm like, why would I take the producer's questions?

00:29:43.780 Why would I do like I'm the anchor?

00:29:45.260 It's literally my one job to come up with my own questions at Fox News.

00:29:49.200 Nobody ever wrote a question for me ever.

00:29:51.160 Not in a not in a presidential debate, not on a on a big night, not on my nightly show.

00:29:57.320 And I guarantee you, nobody's writing Peter Doocy's questions for him.

00:30:01.300 And if that's what she's expected at MSNBC, I don't know what she's going to get on the

00:30:05.220 cable arm.

00:30:05.720 But I think cable is a lot more scrappy than network.

00:30:07.660 So she's probably not going to get it there either.

00:30:10.640 And she decides to take a shot at him, right, because he's the only one willing to ask her

00:30:14.300 tough questions back. 1.00

00:30:15.260 Yeah, it's it's pathetic. 0.97

00:30:18.520 And honestly, it's just a reminder to everybody. 0.98

00:30:21.520 Well, of so many things.

00:30:22.820 One is that when when Trump was answering questions from a media that was 95 percent hostile and

00:30:30.780 they were saying that he was a threat to the First Amendment, an authoritarian, a fascist,

00:30:35.260 even, I mean, places like the Atlantic, owned by a billionaire, of course, places which

00:30:40.220 sometimes billionaire ownership is a problem, Megan, and sometimes billionaire ownership is

00:30:44.220 absolutely depends.

00:30:45.020 Right.

00:30:45.320 Depends on the billionaire.

00:30:46.760 Yeah.

00:30:46.920 It depends on who they were calling Trump a fascist.

00:30:50.060 The reality of authoritarian regimes is that the media supports the person in power.

00:30:56.320 You don't you don't have a massive multibillion dollar media apparatus arrayed against the

00:31:01.260 person in power in a fascistic dictatorship or authoritarian regime or any of that.

00:31:06.120 And they never seem to pick that up or they didn't care.

00:31:09.260 I mean, the whole thing was was absurd.

00:31:10.760 You know, democracy dies in darkness because of Trump, please.

00:31:13.340 And now you have the only questions worth hearing from just the perspective of speaking truth

00:31:20.080 to power, getting answers.

00:31:21.300 This White House doesn't want to offer up the only questions I I personally at least

00:31:25.740 ever hear.

00:31:26.280 And now I'm not watching the press conference every day.

00:31:28.040 I'm usually on air doing radio during the press conference.

00:31:30.720 But Peter Doocy asks things that are worthwhile because the rest of it is just an opportunity

00:31:35.180 to spew more talking points from the podium and essentially allow Jen Psaki to be chief 1.00

00:31:40.520 propaganda czar.

00:31:41.340 So what's what's the point of that exactly?

00:31:43.480 What you're not going to find out anything. 1.00

00:31:45.240 I mean, crime in this country is really bad because of stupid Democrat ideas. 1.00

00:31:48.580 The border is the worst it's ever been because of insane Democrat ideas. 1.00

00:31:52.460 Inflation is really bad because Democrats don't understand economics or don't care.

00:31:56.520 There's a lot of stuff going on that we need answers to.

00:31:59.720 And instead, we usually just get, you know, Green New Deal and climate change and diversity

00:32:04.560 and inclusion.

00:32:05.120 And what?

00:32:06.380 I mean, it's it's nonsense.

00:32:08.200 I mean, you know, if we had a real press corps, those press conferences should be

00:32:11.320 testy, Megan.

00:32:12.120 It should be interesting every day.

00:32:13.200 They should be exciting.

00:32:14.280 Yes, exactly right.

00:32:15.380 Here's the exact quote.

00:32:16.340 Peter Doocy works for a network that provides people with questions that might make anyone 1.00

00:32:22.180 sound like a stupid son of a bee. 1.00

00:32:24.900 Because the question was, is he really as much of a stupid son of a bee as we think? 1.00

00:32:30.460 And she's like, he works for a network that provides people with questions that would 1.00

00:32:33.940 make anyone sound like a stupid SOB. 0.99

00:32:36.900 I know it's annoying to be asked tough questions, but it's literally your job to answer them 1.00

00:32:42.580 in that role.

00:32:43.380 And you do better to be honest.

00:32:44.980 I mean, even the president came out and tried to say that Doocy made up his the basis

00:32:50.320 for his question about, you know, you said you would respond in kind to Russia if it uses

00:32:56.440 chemical weapons was that smart.

00:32:58.160 You suggested to U.S. troops that they were going to go into Ukraine.

00:33:01.660 Why'd you do that?

00:33:02.780 You suggest you called for regime change with Putin.

00:33:05.680 Why'd you do that?

00:33:06.020 And he denied it.

00:33:06.820 He just said, those are lies.

00:33:08.440 Well, we have you on tape.

00:33:09.500 We know you said it. 1.00

00:33:10.660 So is that the stupid SOB question that you're referring to? 1.00

00:33:13.440 All right, let me pause because there's another stupid SOB question. 1.00

00:33:16.740 Peter Doocy asked, tongue in cheek, about the vice president refusing to wear her mask 1.00

00:33:23.460 while the rest of us losers would have to. 0.64

00:33:26.220 So says she through the CDC, and yet she was caught not following the rules.

00:33:30.400 Jen Psaki on the ropes trying to deal with Doocy's questions on that. 1.00

00:33:33.540 Buck Saxton stays with us.

00:33:35.100 We'll play the soundbite right after this.

00:33:42.800 So, Buck, my 12-year-old last Saturday was exposed to somebody who was COVID positive.

00:33:48.780 And because he's not vaccinated per the CDC guidelines, which our school follows,

00:33:52.580 he was not allowed to go to school this week.

00:33:55.060 He doesn't have COVID.

00:33:56.160 He doesn't have a single symptom.

00:33:57.800 He's perfectly healthy.

00:33:59.120 And he had to stay at home all week doing, quote, remote learning on some of the classes

00:34:04.140 that offered it.

00:34:04.880 Otherwise, he just sat at home doing nothing.

00:34:07.780 It was a totally pointless exercise.

00:34:10.580 COVID's gone.

00:34:11.780 Even Fauci has basically admitted it's at best, I mean, at worst case scenario right now,

00:34:16.700 endemic.

00:34:17.880 And he had to sit at home.

00:34:19.100 And if he was going to go outside, technically, according to CDC, he was supposed to be masked.

00:34:22.860 We didn't do that.

00:34:24.300 And guess what?

00:34:25.280 We're in good company because Kamala Harris was in the same boat as my son.

00:34:28.980 She was exposed to, I guess, somebody who is COVID positive.

00:34:32.360 And even though she's vaccinated, she was supposed to be wearing a mask around other people. 1.00

00:34:37.540 And she didn't do it because it's a stupid ass rule. 1.00

00:34:42.040 And so I'm on her side not to do it. 0.99

00:34:44.820 But I'm not actually on her side because she wants me to do it.

00:34:47.760 She wants you to do it.

00:34:48.980 She wants my son to do it.

00:34:50.260 But she won't actually do it.

00:34:52.580 And Jen Psaki got asked about the fact that Kamala Harris was presiding over the vote on 1.00

00:34:56.760 Ketanji Brown Jackson.

00:34:58.660 And she she didn't wear the mask and Jen Psaki dodged and she felt uncomfortable.

00:35:06.580 And you could see how awkward it was.

00:35:08.440 It didn't go well for Jen Psaki. 0.94

00:35:10.480 And she tried to suggest that Kamala Harris really was wearing the mask all day except 0.93

00:35:14.960 for these one moments.

00:35:16.600 And then that got proven to be a lie.

00:35:18.000 But here's some of that exchange between Harris and between Psaki and Peter Doocy.

00:35:23.040 Someone noted that Vice President Kamala Harris is considered a close contact CDC guidance

00:35:29.500 that she wore a mask.

00:35:31.440 Today she was presiding over the vote for Ketanji Brown Jackson and didn't wear a mask. 0.91

00:35:38.460 I haven't seen.

00:35:39.220 I've obviously watched most parts of the vote.

00:35:41.960 But I know that she was alone up kind of on the dais for the vast majority of that.

00:35:46.480 Tomorrow during the event or if there's any reception behind the scenes,

00:35:50.160 will she be required to wear a mask indoors?

00:35:51.720 She'll follow CDC protocols.

00:35:53.600 Is there a carve out in CDC regulations for COVID for Vice President?

00:35:59.560 The CDC says for people exposed to COVID up to date on their COVID-19 vaccinations,

00:36:05.520 do not go to places where you are unable to wear a well-fitting mask.

00:36:09.760 So why is she here at the White House today giving the new Supreme Court justice a big hug 0.98

00:36:15.320 with no mask?

00:36:17.040 You mean when she gave her a hug outside?

00:36:19.260 Yes.

00:36:19.820 She was outside?

00:36:20.860 Does the CDC say the people who are close contact can give people hugs outside?

00:36:24.940 We know, Peter, that outside it is, it is, you are, it's, you can benefit significantly

00:36:30.660 being outside.

00:36:31.560 That's why we have, we had the event outside today.

00:36:34.080 I will tell you that the Vice President has been wearing a mask inside.

00:36:37.040 You said on Friday that the Vice President was masked indoors all day,

00:36:40.920 but the White House tweeted a video showing her standing over the President without a mask on.

00:36:47.060 Can you explain what happened there?

00:36:48.960 Well, I would say that the Vice President and the President and all of us abide by what the CDC

00:36:54.300 protocols are.

00:36:55.240 It was an emotional day, it was a historic day, and there were moments when she was not wearing a mask inside,

00:37:02.120 including in a photo, but she was wearing it 99.9% of the time.

00:37:06.020 It was an emotional day, Buck.

00:37:08.300 It was an emotional day, and that's the secret exception to the CDC regulations.

00:37:12.600 Maybe you didn't know that.

00:37:13.820 The virus respects important occasions.

00:37:17.700 There's a lot of science on that.

00:37:19.260 I'm sure they could trot little Fauci out and have him tell some lies about that, too.

00:37:23.760 I'm just going to say this, and my record on this one speaks for itself.

00:37:30.720 I told everybody two years ago, I mean, by early April, and I mean really two years ago,

00:37:35.900 that the lockdowns were completely insane, masking was absurd, all of these things that we're doing.

00:37:42.500 The only thing that I felt was likely to be substantially helpful was vaccination.

00:37:49.140 And so my parents got vaccinated.

00:37:50.740 I actually got vaccinated against my will, basically, here in New York.

00:37:54.560 And the vaccines were good in a very similar way to what they are during the flu season,

00:37:59.860 which is helping people who are at risk from having a severe complication, a severe case.

00:38:05.200 Didn't obviously do very much at all to stop the spread.

00:38:07.740 I mean, that was a joke.

00:38:09.040 So they were pretty much wrong about everything, is really what I'm getting to.

00:38:13.180 And I don't think it can, it will not settle in their minds yet.

00:38:18.040 The Democrat left tends to be very collectivist, and it is very collectivist in its thinking.

00:38:24.800 And this was, there's so many layers of this magnet, it's almost hard to get to why they're still going through this mass hysteria.

00:38:31.220 Why are people in New York City walking around the streets still outside, alone, with N95 masks on? 0.87

00:38:37.480 What do they not get at this point?

00:38:39.120 What do they not understand?

00:38:39.840 For some people, this is just about, it's about power and not allowing the narrative to be,

00:38:45.660 we were wrong about pretty much everything, that Fauci is the most disastrous public health expert.

00:38:50.800 I think you could argue in the history of the world, certainly in the history of the modern United States,

00:38:56.500 that so many of the things that they told us and that the science told them were wrong,

00:39:01.840 that they've lied to people, they put people through misery, 1.00

00:39:04.520 they had four-year-olds eating lunch outside in 35-degree weather with masks on because they're either cowards or idiots. 1.00

00:39:13.080 They were doing that to little children in New York City. 1.00

00:39:15.060 They're still masking up kids here in the city, which is completely inexplicable.

00:39:18.760 They're masking up people on planes where they're safer than they are in almost any other congregate setting

00:39:23.220 because of the filtration system on planes.

00:39:25.320 It's also not a mask-up policy, it's a mask-up-between-bites policy.

00:39:29.080 I try to explain this to people in the most simplistic terms, and they always go,

00:39:32.700 yeah, you're right, imagine, Megan, if we were all trying to avoid getting poison ivy.

00:39:36.500 And you're really, you know, and imagine you could really only get poison ivy once.

00:39:39.600 And you were wearing gloves and long sleeves and everything.

00:39:42.740 But, you know, when it was an important or historic occasion, you took them off and you grabbed that poison ivy.

00:39:46.860 You're going to, I mean, this notion that masking up between bites does anything is lunacy.

00:39:53.080 And that's federal policy on airplanes.

00:39:55.040 This idea that people in any way, shape, or form are benefiting themselves through partial lockdowns.

00:40:02.120 You want to see a lockdown? Lockdown is what Shanghai is doing, which is appalling.

00:40:05.340 I think Fauci sees it and says, yeah, I wish we could go that far, but not quite yet.

00:40:10.660 Lockdown that only involves people not really going to restaurants as much, obviously doesn't stop the spread, doesn't do anything.

00:40:16.360 They keep lying, Megan, because otherwise, I don't think people will ever trust the health apparatus again.

00:40:21.260 And I think this is to the credibility of the Democrat Party to anybody with an IQ above that of a toaster who's not just ideologically brainwashed.

00:40:28.820 This is an this is an existential threat to the credibility of the Democrat left on health issues, on health policy, on all of it.

00:40:35.180 Hmm. Well, I heard you had some sort of a dust up on a Delta flight lately involving a mask.

00:40:41.140 And, you know, I've been thinking about the absurd ongoing mask mandate on public transportation, on the airplanes.

00:40:47.520 And I've decided my next flight, as I'm sure they're going to keep it longer than two weeks.

00:40:52.080 I just I don't they're never taking it down.

00:40:53.860 But let's say it's within the next two weeks and I have to go on a flight.

00:40:56.320 I've got the solution. I'm going to get on board.

00:40:58.480 I guess I'll have to wear my mask as I walk on the plane.

00:41:01.060 I'm going to sit down. I'm going to take out a candy apple.

00:41:05.340 I will never have to put the mask up the entire flight.

00:41:09.240 Have you ever tried to eat a candy apple?

00:41:11.780 Can I tell you what happened on my Delta flight?

00:41:13.480 Just so you understand what we have to deal with sometimes here.

00:41:16.960 I was taking too long.

00:41:18.600 I was eating and drinking, but I was taking too long.

00:41:21.460 It was excuse me, sir. I'm going to need you to pull your mask up.

00:41:23.420 I'm sitting there with the cup, with the, you know, with the little crackers or whatever.

00:41:27.000 Taking too long.

00:41:27.780 Yes, you were chewing too slowly.

00:41:30.560 Yes. Going too slowly.

00:41:33.420 Tipping too slowly because the people who do this are either morons or on a power trip. 1.00

00:41:38.800 There's no third option. Right. 1.00

00:41:40.040 I mean, any airline attendant, I've got lots of airline attendants and pilots who listen to my radio show.

00:41:45.180 And folks should also check out the Buck Sexton podcast.

00:41:48.400 But they they will tell you that they hate these rules and they never enforce them unless someone complains that they're not enforcing them enough.

00:41:54.900 The people that walk around like the mask Stasi, you know, the ones who act like the covid Siberian prison guards, like they're doing this if they want to. 0.99

00:42:03.560 And it's and they're so dumb. And the fact that Jen Psaki gets up there and ask acts like it's somehow, you know, an explanation that every Democrat who's been a total lockdown or a huge fan of all this stuff at one time or another, it seems.

00:42:17.980 Has been caught flagrantly violating the rules that they're imposing on the rest of us, because just like everything else about their ideology, they'll believe anything as long as it lets them feel special, powerful and better than everybody else.

00:42:30.780 And they'll go along with anything as long as it lets them achieve those things.

00:42:34.420 They'll say whatever. And that's what you've seen with covid all along.

00:42:38.340 Does anyone really think that masks work at this point? I am I am fascinated by that argument.

00:42:43.880 I'm fascinated by the complete refusal to look at the reams.

00:42:48.520 I mean, the mountains of data, places that did mask places that didn't mask places that ran control studies, places that actually crunched the numbers.

00:42:55.420 Never has it worked.

00:42:56.420 There was just a study. Oh, there's just a study. I think it was Marty.

00:43:01.380 No, it was from overseas. It might have been from the Swiss Denmark or it was either Denmark or the Netherlands. Right.

00:43:09.140 Is that what you're talking about? Yes. And it took a hard look just very recently at masking kids versus not masking kids.

00:43:15.420 And they and they took a look at these were 10 to 12 year olds. Right.

00:43:18.040 So like the the the group that allegedly starting to get more contagious and it proved that if it was basically the same, you know, you caught it or you didn't catch it at the exact same rate, whether you were a mask or not, the ones wearing the mask.

00:43:29.820 The actual data was the mask. Yes, you know, the mask schools had actually a slightly, slightly higher rate.

00:43:35.500 Yes. Yes. So that won't be discussed here in the United States as we literally are starting to remask children.

00:43:41.000 There is a school. It was not far from where I lived in the Upper West Side named Calhoun.

00:43:44.680 And a rumor had it. Matt Damon sent his kids there for a little while.

00:43:49.100 I saw the memo myself. They're they're re-masking the kids.

00:43:51.740 They started as of this week because of this, you know, slow rise in this variant that does absolutely nothing.

00:43:56.320 But that's that's not even deadly. But yeah, they've got to put them back on because they won't listen to the science.

00:44:02.440 And I guess the candy apple is not going to save anybody.

00:44:05.200 It's child abuse. And what they're doing is child abuse. 0.96

00:44:07.760 I mean, they can try to justify it a million different ways.

00:44:10.200 But if you're if a babysitter, Megan, took your child, made him or her sit outside in freezing temperatures with a cloth around their face, stifling their breath and telling them that this is where they had to eat their lunch, you'd call the police.

00:44:23.480 That was the New York City public school system for quite some time because of libs, because of Democrats, because people, you know, taking photos of themselves, getting the vaccine while they're double masks, saying this is what the responsible people do.

00:44:36.020 And everybody who has any questions about this is evil. Yeah, there's a lot of people who will never accept that they were essentially wrong about everything that really mattered during this.

00:44:46.620 And the Democrat Party is wrong. Look, they use this to beat Donald Trump in the election.

00:44:49.840 They use this whole narrative of Joe Biden's.

00:44:53.560 They've never been able to explain how more people died of covid under Biden than under Trump, while Biden had a vaccine for six months of the first year.

00:44:59.840 And even even Fauci. Fauci was out there touting to the BBC how it was all Trump's fault, like Trump killed a lot of people.

00:45:06.540 More people died under Joe Biden's watch than under Donald Trump's watch.

00:45:09.780 And Joe Biden had vaccines and therapeutics. Keep going.

00:45:13.120 What'd you say? The absolute worst.

00:45:14.960 He went to my high school, by the way, Megan, just, you know, he's a Regis high school alum and he is the worst person on the planet, I think. 0.79

00:45:22.120 You can see him. He's like he's missing his moment in the sun. They let him out and out of that one Sunday show.

00:45:27.880 And he was like, I think, under duress, forced to say it's endemic.

00:45:31.380 It's going to be up to people to decide their own personal risk tolerance.

00:45:35.140 But masks are still a great idea. And the vaccine is still amazing.

00:45:39.020 But I guess you have to choose how much you're willing to.

00:45:41.720 Clearly, I was joking with my pals over at GB News that there was Australia.

00:45:46.440 Sky Australia was saying they had his puppy.

00:45:48.700 They clearly had like his new about his new puppy on the other side of the camera.

00:45:51.520 Like you say it's endemic. This is the Democrats who know they're going to lose it in the fall.

00:45:55.840 Right. Like you say it's endemic. You say it's a personal risk tolerance issue now or the puppy gets it.

00:46:00.240 That's the only way you got him to say anything reasonable.

00:46:03.780 Yeah, he's he's the absolute worst.

00:46:05.920 And he is somebody to the Democrats weaponized and used every way possible.

00:46:11.060 I mean, I think he sees those drones flying in the sky in Shanghai,

00:46:14.380 telling people to suppress their heart's desire for freedom to not only go outside.

00:46:19.580 People need to know you're not going to open your window in Shanghai.

00:46:22.400 You can be on the 50th story of a building and you're not going to open your window for fresh air or else,

00:46:27.160 you know, the covid police will come for you.

00:46:28.720 I think Fauci sees that and goes, well, they take the virus seriously.

00:46:32.780 They wish I had thought of that.

00:46:34.600 He is the absolute worst.

00:46:36.700 And I know I've had so many people because there were a lot there were conservative believers in Fauci early on.

00:46:42.340 And they would reach out to me, even even friends of mine.

00:46:44.520 They'd say, why? Why do you think this guy is such a fraud?

00:46:47.060 Why do you? And all you really had to know was that the whole masks don't work.

00:46:51.580 Actually, they do transition happened in about two weeks time.

00:46:56.040 I'm talking about Fauci publicly saying it's a joke and then saying, oh, my God, we all need to mask publicly.

00:47:00.720 Or rather, it happened rapidly in about two weeks time.

00:47:04.100 There was no data or science to support that.

00:47:06.300 It was that was the political imperative.

00:47:08.460 Compliance. Shut up, peasant. Do what you're told. 1.00

00:47:11.060 And the Democrats, of course, love that.

00:47:12.680 Do what you're told. Shut up. No free speech. 1.00

00:47:14.640 No First Amendment. Go for it. 0.99

00:47:16.680 And flash forward to now. It was an emotional day.

00:47:20.200 Buck Sexton, thank you as always. What a pleasure.

00:47:23.800 Megan, thanks so much for having me.

00:47:25.320 Check him out, guys. Check him out on the Buck and Clay show and check him out on his Buck Sexton podcast as well.

00:47:30.720 We are going to get into the left's new obsession with ghost guns.

00:47:38.020 Maybe it's not so new, but it's renewed, as well as President Biden's ATF nominee and much, much more with Dana Lash.

00:47:44.580 She's host of the nationally syndicated The Dana Show.

00:47:48.660 Dana, great to have you back. Thanks for coming.

00:47:50.880 No, thanks for having me, Megan. Good to see you.

00:47:53.080 Oh, you too. All right. So before we get to all the gun stuff, which you are truly the expert on,

00:47:57.120 can we talk about Elon Musk and the meltdown that happened on Twitter yesterday?

00:48:01.720 I mean, it was a it was a hysterical meltdown by the left on Twitter at the thought that Elon Musk might actually succeed with this takeover bid,

00:48:11.280 which he's predicting he probably won't succeed.

00:48:14.760 And it doesn't sound like the board wants to accept the offer, even if it might be in the best interest of the shareholders.

00:48:20.720 But just to give people a flavor of what we saw yesterday, there's a commentator named Jeff Jarvis.

00:48:27.020 Today on Twitter feels like the last evening in Berlin in a Berlin nightclub at the twilight of Weimar, Germany.

00:48:33.440 So right before Hitler. OK, so it's a Hitler-esque moment. 0.83

00:48:37.640 OK, Max Boot. I mean, he's lost his mind. He used to be a conservative.

00:48:41.640 Now he sounds like Joy Reid.

00:48:44.160 I am frightened by the impact on society and politics if Elon Musk acquires Twitter.

00:48:50.060 He seems to believe that, let me say, on social media, anything goes.

00:48:55.580 Oh, for democracy to survive, we need more content moderation, not less.

00:49:04.440 Your thoughts on it, Dana?

00:49:06.480 Well, I guess he's space Hitler now. I mean, that's kind of what I'm walking away with. 0.95

00:49:10.100 All these people are saying he's space Hitler and I guess he's going to just imprison everybody on the moon.

00:49:13.840 This is crazy. And really, this is, I think, a huge digital battle that is, is I think going to be a touchstone that we're all going to look back on for some time to come.

00:49:24.780 Because I read that Vanguard Group is now involved and then you have like some Saudi royalty that's getting involved in this because billionaires, if they don't agree with the left and confirm their narratives, they're a problem if they own these media companies.

00:49:37.480 But I guess not if you're a Saudi king or not if you're BlackRock or Vanguard Group or somebody else.

00:49:42.160 I just really want to find out where the far left is, where their consistency is on this.

00:49:46.980 I think it's a great thing. I mean, we have people advocating against a guy buying a company because they don't want free speech.

00:49:54.660 I mean, I just, if you would have, Megan, if you would have told me that this is going to be a debate 10 years ago, I wouldn't have believed you.

00:49:59.720 I would have thought that this is, okay, this is just hyperbole. Nobody's going to actually, no, we're living it now.

00:50:04.520 And the crazy thing is, is you don't have to be even on Twitter or use Twitter or even know what Twitter is because there's such a tiny percentage of people that are actually on and active on Twitter.

00:50:16.440 It's very different in terms of digital consumption from Facebook and Instagram.

00:50:20.240 I mean, really, ultimately, it's where the commentary goes to fight over narratives. It's where strategists are. It's where pundits are.

00:50:27.040 Everyone else uses that, uses it as like some kind of marketing tool. I'm just a brat on there. I really don't do anything of value other than be a brat.

00:50:34.360 I do nothing of value.

00:50:35.960 But it's like, you don't even really have to be on it to be affected by it because it's going to establish a precedent for how people are going to be handling this years to come.

00:50:45.040 And it's also going to redefine this argument that we've had back and forth for, I guess, the past, you know, really heavy for the past five to six years now.

00:50:53.700 What, how do you define a town square, a free speech forum that is owned and administered by a private company?

00:51:01.700 And what if that private company can act as an agent of the government?

00:51:06.660 I mean, these are all questions that this is a brave new world we've yet to define and figure out where those boundaries are.

00:51:12.180 And I think Musk really made a good faith effort.

00:51:14.480 I know Mark Cuban said that he was just kind of screwing with the SEC.

00:51:18.100 I really don't think so.

00:51:19.140 I mean, I think he really, Musk, I think, kind of views himself as this sort of Howard Hughes, Tony Stark character,

00:51:24.360 which is actually, I think, a pretty accurate characterization of who he is in culture.

00:51:28.580 And he said he thinks he that Twitter has great potential and he wants to unlock it.

00:51:33.240 And the only way that you can do it is take it private.

00:51:35.280 I agree with him.

00:51:36.440 I think that that's that's a great place for Twitter to go.

00:51:39.060 But I can't believe, Megan, that it's such a threat by, you know, the people that you were citing here, Jeff Jarvis and and Max Boot.

00:51:45.080 And there was another guy who I remember called the manager, called the police on some lady at Target over a toothbrush who was all upset and said,

00:51:51.320 this is going to start World War Three and get people killed if Musk does this, which isn't just crazy drama.

00:51:58.480 You know, but we're fighting over free speech.

00:52:00.720 It's crazy.

00:52:01.700 So I actually do think if if Twitter, let's say Twitter went out of business.

00:52:05.440 I actually think there's a there's a good chance cancel culture would die.

00:52:09.700 All cancellations start in Twitter.

00:52:11.360 And I don't know that it's it's a net force for good, but let's assume it's not going away, though.

00:52:17.100 It hasn't been doing as well as it was a couple of years ago.

00:52:21.120 Let's assume Elon somehow manages to buy it.

00:52:23.900 Although we had Peter Schiff on the program yesterday, you know, really smart guy when it comes to economics, saying he can't afford it.

00:52:28.900 This isn't real.

00:52:29.660 He doesn't have the money, even the richest man in the world.

00:52:33.140 And he explained why.

00:52:34.120 But anyway, if he if he were to buy it, I do think it would seriously impact our culture in a great way, you know, to have more opinions freely expressed, to have more of an exchange, more conservatives engaging on that forum without fear.

00:52:46.320 And, you know, just the ability to push back on these libs who own it now and they know if you push back too hard, you're going to get silenced by the corporate bosses. 0.99

00:52:54.820 To your point about the Saudis, this was what this was a fascinating dynamic yesterday because there's the billionaire Saudi prince, Alawid bin Talal al-Saud, who said, I'm going to vote to reject his offer.

00:53:07.260 He's on the board of Twitter.

00:53:08.840 He said, I'm going to vote to reject this offer.

00:53:10.760 However, he doesn't think that the proposed offer comes close to the intrinsic value of Twitter, even though it's way above what it had been valued before, which is, I don't know, $10.

00:53:19.980 Yeah, by a lot.

00:53:21.180 Right.

00:53:21.380 Somebody one of the big firms at 30 bucks a share and he's he's offering 5420.

00:53:26.380 Right.

00:53:26.540 So so Elon Musk responds.

00:53:30.380 Interesting.

00:53:31.320 Just two questions, if I may.

00:53:33.000 How much of Twitter does the kingdom own directly and indirectly?

00:53:36.520 And what are the kingdom's views on journalistic freedom of speech?

00:53:40.620 Of course, these are the guys who killed Jamal Khashoggi, right?

00:53:43.620 Washington Post reporter.

00:53:44.840 So could you spare us your your little lectures on what you think is the intrinsic value of this journalistic site or purportedly free speech site?

00:53:54.060 Because we all know how you really feel about journalists and people related to the media world who want to express actual facts or their opinions that might not jive with your rulers.

00:54:04.480 Now, that was a great point that Musk made yesterday.

00:54:08.760 And I think what is it?

00:54:10.200 He owns the this the Saudi prince owns, I think, like five point two percent.

00:54:14.520 So he's a smaller shareholder.

00:54:15.820 He can he can sit down.

00:54:16.780 But that's a good point.

00:54:17.420 So I guess what does the left like do they like the Saudis now?

00:54:20.820 Right. 0.71

00:54:21.160 They hate the Saudis. 1.00

00:54:22.280 Can they prefer this guy?

00:54:23.360 I don't know, daily briefing.

00:54:25.460 Yeah, exactly right.

00:54:26.700 And it's like you would think they'd love Elon Musk because Tesla, you know, it's like, hey.

00:54:31.180 Well, they did.

00:54:31.620 They're going to start hating electric vehicles now, at least particularly.

00:54:34.580 Tesla.

00:54:35.120 And then now they're going to be the now they're going to get interested in all the pollution that.

00:54:39.180 And I look, I'm not against green.

00:54:41.020 I just don't like being lectured to by people who think that, you know, they're going to go to heaven over me because they got a green vehicle and that it's better for the environment.

00:54:47.840 I mean, we've all seen the pictures of those kids in Congo hand mining for cobalt.

00:54:52.660 And that, by the way, it's very interesting.

00:54:54.240 That's one of the firms that Hunter Biden facilitated the sale of.

00:54:56.720 Yes.

00:54:57.280 Chinese communist Chinese company. 0.97

00:54:58.760 So, I mean, it's very it's a very dirty green is dirty. 0.93

00:55:02.020 The whole green industry is very dirty.

00:55:03.980 That's what nobody wants to talk about.

00:55:05.580 So maybe the left will now, because of Elon Musk, start maybe wanting to talk about some of these truths.

00:55:11.000 I don't know.

00:55:11.840 But I mean, now they hate him.

00:55:13.760 And this guy's done more good and more advancement for some of these technological issues and things that, you know, we really needed to explore and gain some ground in.

00:55:22.320 And then I think almost anybody else.

00:55:23.900 I mean, for crying out loud, we just had another privatized flight up to the up to the ISS.

00:55:28.380 That's crazy because we were relying on Russians to hitch a ride up there for all of this time since Obama, Biden.

00:55:34.300 Now we're able to actually like commandeer a vessel.

00:55:37.620 I feel like I'm in Star Trek.

00:55:38.880 Commandeer a vessel and get up to the ISS on our own.

00:55:41.640 That's a great thing.

00:55:42.880 Being able to have, you know, diverse energy options.

00:55:45.920 I'm all for whatever benefits the consumer.

00:55:48.180 I'm a capitalist.

00:55:49.020 I go where that leads.

00:55:50.600 This is this is all great.

00:55:52.040 And now they're going to hate him for it.

00:55:53.240 But they're going to love the guys that they hated just like a year ago because of Jamal Khashoggi.

00:55:57.820 Yeah.

00:55:58.240 Well, I mean, I'm all for electric vehicles, but I'm not going to be lectured to like you by the people who ride them to their private jets.

00:56:04.420 OK.

00:56:04.800 And they're too quiet.

00:56:05.720 Somebody put a bell on it.

00:56:06.680 It's freaky.

00:56:07.220 I don't like being snuck up on by a car.

00:56:09.380 It's true.

00:56:10.100 It's true.

00:56:10.120 People are running over their pets.

00:56:12.040 It's a thing.

00:56:13.340 OK, let's talk about ghost guns, which is, you know, it's crazy when you look at the crime statistics and how bad they are.

00:56:21.240 And yet ghost guns, I guess, are the problem.

00:56:26.480 Could you just in your Dana way explain what a ghost gun is and then explain what Joe Biden is trying to do to them and with them?

00:56:36.600 Yeah.

00:56:37.020 So a ghost gun is a made up term, just like like the phrase assault weapon is made up.

00:56:41.660 Ghost weapon is made up.

00:56:42.880 Ultimately, this is what it is.

00:56:44.520 People for since the beginning of time, there's two there's two truths about the founding of the country that we were founded because

00:56:51.100 colonists had weapons of war and also colonists made their own guns at home.

00:56:55.380 Everybody made their own guns at home.

00:56:56.620 I mean, this is how rifling came into effect.

00:56:59.200 This is one of the things that gave us an advantage in terms of firepower over the British during the War of Independence.

00:57:04.840 So we had the Pelton gun, the buckle gun.

00:57:08.040 We had the what is the Kentucky rifle, which was the rifle.

00:57:10.880 All of this, all of these advancements because people like to create stuff at home.

00:57:15.120 And also to Biden's point, we you could always purchase a can.

00:57:20.240 And I mean, I could go out and get a cannon right now if I wanted to look full of my art.

00:57:24.100 But but the ghost gun is is a term for what hobbyists have been doing at home for ages.

00:57:29.920 Now, it's already federal law.

00:57:31.300 You can't sell a firearm that you make at home unless you serialize it.

00:57:35.940 And so this targeting on what they call buy build kits, basically you can get it's like it's like a Mr. Potato Head.

00:57:43.340 This is honestly the best way that I can go.

00:57:45.220 It's like Mr. Potato Head.

00:57:46.140 You get it and then you kind of put it together and you but you have to have a little bit of expertise.

00:57:49.520 Right. You've got to know where the pieces go.

00:57:51.600 And in the case of these these firearms and these kits, you get a chunk of a kind of aluminum.

00:57:57.140 Sometimes it's polymer.

00:57:58.240 Usually it's unfinished aluminum so that people don't have the cut marks and they just paint it all out and finish it after.

00:58:03.380 But you've got to mill that out.

00:58:04.560 Right.

00:58:04.880 You've got to mill cavities for the other pieces to go in this chunk of aluminum.

00:58:08.240 Basically, you're getting a paperweight and some nuts and bolts.

00:58:10.660 And so what the ATF under Biden is doing now, they're trying to argue that basically this not basically they're saying this chunk of aluminum is the same thing as a firearm.

00:58:19.760 They define what a firearm was in the 1968 and one of the laws that they had passed, Gun Control Act.

00:58:27.420 And they were defining what a firearm was.

00:58:29.820 It's like a really long thing.

00:58:31.500 The page that they came out with, the report that they came out with, the rule, I was trying to remember, I think it's 306 or 308 pages to how they were trying to argue their case that this chunk of aluminum is actually a firearm.

00:58:44.420 It's a horrible argument that they're making.

00:58:46.120 But ultimately, that's what it is.

00:58:47.460 And they're saying that because these hobbyists are making firearms at home and keeping them for their own personal use, and this is already federal law, they don't have to serialize that particular chunk of aluminum.

00:58:58.020 But if I were to make a gun at home, Megan, and if I were to sell it to you, I would have to serialize it.

00:59:02.220 If I were to sell it to a family member in my own state of residence, I would still have to serialize it.

00:59:07.140 I mean, this has all been established law for ages.

00:59:10.120 And so Biden's saying now that, well, the increase in crime isn't due to us demanding to defund the police.

00:59:16.760 It's not due to the restorative justice and all of these horrific Soros-backed DAs in places like California or St. Louis with Kim Gardner or in D.C. or in New York where they had that bail reform that they had to walk back after all of these repeat offenders went out and committed over 400 brand-new crimes after they got a wrist slap and barely had to serve any time for serious violent felonies.

00:59:37.860 It's not due to anything like that.

00:59:39.540 And it's not even due to the fact that we're increasing people's desperation by running the economy into a hole in the ground.

00:59:45.100 It's because, Megan, of hobbyists, people who are just in their spare time building their firearms at home.

00:59:50.940 Because, you know, Megan, gangsters and drug dealers are going out and purchasing drilling presses and routers and all kinds of machinery.

00:59:57.920 And they're spending that time milling this all out with the expertise that they have.

01:00:02.060 One quick point on this, one last point.

01:00:04.300 ATF said in March of this year, from 2016 to 2021, there were over 89,000 murders, firearms illegally used, illegally possessed, used in homicides.

01:00:13.400 And they were saying that of that, 325 were attributable to ghost guns.

01:00:17.140 Problem with that number is that sawed-off shotguns and firearms were covered at crime scenes with the serial number filed off.

01:00:23.660 That all goes into that category, too.

01:00:25.440 So we actually don't even know.

01:00:26.940 That's less than one-third of a percent.

01:00:29.780 So the ATF can't even substantiate when they were asked by two-way groups about their show, their work.

01:00:37.380 They refused to do it.

01:00:38.500 So all of this, this is what they're using, along with Joe Biden, to further restrict firearm rights.

01:00:43.620 My gosh, there's 89,000 gun-related murders.

01:00:48.260 Is that what you're saying?

01:00:48.900 Between 2016 and 2021?

01:00:50.720 Yeah, 2016 and 2021.

01:00:51.280 And the number committed by these so-called ghost guns, and they've defined it so widely, it includes more than the actual thing, is 323?

01:01:00.520 Yeah, 325, and that's a combination of-

01:01:03.240 Most of the statistics come from FBI Uniform Crime Reports.

01:01:06.420 Statistia has a good report state by state, too.

01:01:08.840 This is a joke.

01:01:10.340 This is a joke.

01:01:11.360 So, I mean, and he knows it's a joke.

01:01:13.200 I mean, listen, I'm sure he'd love to ban, quote, assault rifles, which is a total impossibility.

01:01:18.240 We've got like 400 million of them in the United States.

01:01:20.660 You're not going to be banning them.

01:01:21.840 He never even banned the gun.

01:01:23.820 On that, Megan, they just banned three or more accessories that you could affix to the gun.

01:01:27.940 Again, I go back to Mr. Potato Head.

01:01:29.360 He didn't ban Mr. Potato Head.

01:01:31.220 You can't put lips and ears and eyes on Mr. Potato Head at the same time.

01:01:35.120 You've got to choose.

01:01:35.720 Do you want eyes and lips?

01:01:36.880 Do you want ears and eyes?

01:01:37.920 What do you want?

01:01:38.540 You can only pick a couple of them.

01:01:41.220 But you can't ban the potato.

01:01:42.860 It's just not going to happen in modern-day America.

01:01:45.260 The people don't favor it.

01:01:46.380 They don't want it.

01:01:47.140 And he knows that.

01:01:47.960 But the left wants him to, quote, do something.

01:01:50.580 So this is him trying to look like he's doing something.

01:01:53.680 You won't be surprised that the ladies of The View do not see it the same way you do, my pal.

01:01:58.840 Here's constitutional scholar Joy Behar.

01:02:03.020 Okay.

01:02:03.360 There's a couple of you thoughts we're going to play.

01:02:05.300 This is my favorite, though.

01:02:06.400 This is Joy Behar trying to explain to us the way the Supreme Court works and how it's about to handle the issue of guns.

01:02:13.260 Soundbite 3.

01:02:14.960 The Supreme Court is poised to pass a bill contradicting the New York City state laws.

01:02:21.320 We have very strict gun laws here.

01:02:23.140 And they would like it to be, apparently, somebody has put this on their desk, that New York should be an open-carry state and an open-carry city.

01:02:31.400 With all of the density in this city, they want people running around with guns.

01:02:35.420 People, middle-class people will be leaving in droves if that happens.

01:02:39.920 Everything she just said was wrong.

01:02:41.800 Like, literally everything.

01:02:43.120 Yeah, that's not even what the case is about.

01:02:45.460 Before we get to that, the Supreme Court doesn't pass bills.

01:02:48.380 They don't pass bills.

01:02:49.580 That's what we call the legislature. 0.95

01:02:51.300 That's the Congress, Joy.

01:02:52.680 Try to pay attention.

01:02:53.460 You just spelled right out there in the Constitution where you've got the Article I, Article II, Article III.

01:02:58.260 So the Supreme Court just adjudicates the constitutionality of laws that have already been passed.

01:03:03.220 And that's what it's doing with respect to not open-carry, concealed-carry in New York.

01:03:06.900 You take it from there.

01:03:08.440 Yeah, it's the New York Rifle and Pistol Association.

01:03:10.440 They brought that case up to the court.

01:03:12.560 And you're right, it's about concealed carry.

01:03:14.440 It's not about open carry.

01:03:15.560 I just think that if she's going to try to influence public opinion on these issues, she needs to know just like the very basics of the case that she's talking about.

01:03:23.340 And maybe just, you know, basic imagination of government.

01:03:26.800 How government decides to pass a law.

01:03:29.540 I mean, I watched Schoolhouse Rock when I was a kid.

01:03:31.600 I'm sure you did too, Megan.

01:03:33.640 We all know how bills were passed.

01:03:35.440 I mean, I watched the-

01:03:36.000 They didn't mention the Supreme Court.

01:03:37.880 Yeah, walk me through the process.

01:03:39.640 There was no Supreme Court in there.

01:03:41.080 I didn't see a bunch of rogue people in there walking that bill up.

01:03:44.160 So that's, I mean, this is like government 101.

01:03:46.780 These people are bad citizens.

01:03:48.580 She's a bad citizen. 1.00

01:03:50.180 You have a responsibility as a free person to understand how your government works.

01:03:54.220 And if you don't, you are falling short of the ideal that our founders envisioned for our citizenry.

01:03:59.560 Here's a question for you.

01:04:00.900 What about her assertion that the middle class New Yorkers are going to leave the city in droves if concealed carry?

01:04:06.740 Because right now it's very hard to get concealed carry permit in Manhattan.

01:04:09.860 You have to get trained.

01:04:11.640 You have to prove that there's a threat.

01:04:14.080 You basically have to be a famous person.

01:04:15.820 I mean, that's kind of it.

01:04:16.580 Or you have to have an active restraining order against somebody.

01:04:18.940 But you can't just get one if you're just anybody.

01:04:21.260 And if you can't get concealed carry, what that means is you can't get a gun in New York City.

01:04:25.920 So she's saying if they allow concealed carry on a more widespread basis without making everybody jump through all these hoops, all the middle class are going to flee.

01:04:33.680 But you tell me, I mean, there are how many states in the union have concealed carry laws already?

01:04:40.340 A ton of them, in fact.

01:04:42.400 And in terms of permitless carry, Georgia just became the 25th state just this past week.

01:04:46.800 Brian Kemp to sign that into law.

01:04:48.680 Everyone always says it's going to be like the Wild West and there's going to be violence in the streets.

01:04:53.420 There's nothing that ever supports that.

01:04:55.060 In fact, actually, you could argue that there's a you could beg the question, actually, that crime does, in fact, go down when these laws pass.

01:05:02.100 I actually the thing that surprises me, I didn't realize there was a middle class left in New York anymore.

01:05:06.560 I thought that the high crime and the feces and needles and people getting shoved into subway tracks and everything else kind of drove everybody out of New York.

01:05:14.520 I think maybe more people would stay in if they had the ability to protect themselves.

01:05:19.580 I mean, you have the New York Safe Act.

01:05:20.840 What is it?

01:05:21.180 You can't have a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds and you can't have more than seven rounds.

01:05:25.960 It's just it's weird.

01:05:27.340 The laws that they have, particularly New York Safe Act, is absolutely bizarre and it does nothing to contribute towards any kind of decrease in crime.

01:05:34.480 In fact, the restorative justice that's running rampant through that system up there, that makes that make sure of that.

01:05:40.420 Yeah.

01:05:40.580 Restorative justice is quite the oxymoron.

01:05:43.460 And here's a couple of stats for you on crime.

01:05:46.680 Eighty percent rise in deadly shootings in large cities this year.

01:05:49.900 Eighty percent year over year.

01:05:52.420 And the response by the liberals, including Joe Biden, is get the guns.

01:05:56.680 Get the guns.

01:05:57.440 OK, that's what that's the problem.

01:05:58.760 If we could just get the guns, we wouldn't have these stats.

01:06:01.400 I'm going to get to that in one second.

01:06:02.640 New York City, nearly 60 percent spike in February alone in major crimes compared to this month, just last year.

01:06:11.720 And if you want to go back to twenty nineteen, right before the pandemic is even worse.

01:06:16.060 And that's one of the lies they told us is that the pandemic was really what led to all this crime.

01:06:20.260 You know, people were home and they were.

01:06:21.480 That's not it.

01:06:22.240 It keeps rising.

01:06:23.160 It's soft on crime policies.

01:06:24.520 It's defund the police.

01:06:25.640 It's soft on crime.

01:06:26.600 It's no bail.

01:06:28.340 We're not taking the the criminal seriously.

01:06:31.580 Philadelphia, so far, one hundred homicides in twenty twenty two.

01:06:35.500 They had five hundred and sixty two in twenty twenty one, breaking the previous record of five hundred.

01:06:40.540 They're on path to break it again.

01:06:42.960 Chicago City reached at least eight hundred homicides in twenty twenty one, a level not seen in twenty five years on track for another record year.

01:06:50.360 Los Angeles, 54 percent increase in murders since just two thousand nineteen and on and on it goes.

01:06:56.080 And the libs say, get the guns. 0.83

01:06:58.520 And here's case in chief.

01:07:00.820 An example of the view.

01:07:02.600 We have this cut of them talking about how if we could just get rid of the guns, we wouldn't have these problems like our friends overseas.

01:07:08.580 Listen.

01:07:10.580 Would you agree and concede that no one needs an AR-15 or assault-style weapon across the board?

01:07:16.640 Because hunters, if you're a good hunter, I don't think you need to use that to shoot a deer.

01:07:21.220 So yes, though I think it's often misrepresented what is, like an AR-15, yes.

01:07:26.980 Standby, there's a second one that I want to play.

01:07:28.840 You look at the UK, there's almost no gun violence.

01:07:31.720 You look at New Zealand, you look at Australia.

01:07:33.340 When you take away guns, you take away gun violence.

01:07:35.900 Yes.

01:07:36.180 Well, I agree with that.

01:07:37.420 But a lot of people don't.

01:07:39.080 Thoughts on that? 1.00

01:07:40.460 That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. 1.00

01:07:42.020 And we're all stupider for having heard it. 1.00

01:07:44.440 Just a quote from Billy Madison. 0.99

01:07:46.400 I just, this is insane.

01:07:47.720 First off, the deer thing with Sonny Hostin, when she's talking about you can't take your AR-15.

01:07:53.000 In fact, there's some states, it actually used to be law, and then some states have revised it.

01:07:56.780 They didn't even want you going out and shooting anything over a critter with a .223 because it was considered a small caliber.

01:08:03.980 What gets me is that none of these women, none of this brain trust would be able to explain to me why my .223 isn't okay, but my .308 is. 0.74

01:08:11.560 Not a single one of them.

01:08:13.160 I can't explain that either.

01:08:14.600 What is it?

01:08:14.980 What is the difference?

01:08:15.440 They wouldn't be able to.

01:08:15.840 What's the difference?

01:08:16.560 Well, .308's a lot bigger.

01:08:18.200 .308's a lot bigger.

01:08:19.160 That's like, you know, your larger, I don't want to say varmint, but, you know, deer rifle or, you know, what people would use for larger game, per se.

01:08:25.620 But, you know, AR-15, it's good for hog hunting, it's good for a number of things, it's the most popularly owned rifle, and the most important point in this whole discussion, it is the rifle that is responsible for the fewest amount of homicides annually, FBI, UCRs, from the beginning that it was recorded, all the way up until current time, it is just a spec compared to handguns that are obtained on the black market by criminals, who are always going to be able to buy handguns.

01:08:54.080 To the second point, the video that you played, after the second one you played, there is this belief, I think, this progressive mindset, that a firearm, even though it is an inanimate object, is apparently a spiritual relic that can pass on to the person who possesses it, Megan, the ability to be, or it influences them to be good or evil.

01:09:15.660 So, a good person is fine, you hand them a firearm, and suddenly that spiritual relic influences them to be evil.

01:09:22.720 It's not them, Megan, it's not their own free will choices, it is the firearm.

01:09:27.260 So, thus, the logic dictates, if we remove the firearm, then we remove all evil in the world, and there will never be any more murders, or crimes, or anything else.

01:09:38.000 That's toddler logic, that's not anything that makes sense in a grown-up world, and we know that that's not the case, because you still see mass casualty incidents in all of these other countries that they mention.

01:09:49.880 To say nothing of the violent crime rate over there, rape, terrorism, and also just basic freedom.

01:09:57.640 Popularity, and what a European country does, has no bearing upon the rights that we have as United States citizens.

01:10:04.220 And if any of, you know, these ladies on The View have a problem with that, they are free to purchase for themselves a one-way ticket and go over there, and then they can see what it's like to not have as much freedom to defend themselves as you have here.

01:10:15.040 So, the whole point of that, and one other quick thing about Sonia Hassan, and I made this point online, nobody's worried about a deer busting up to their house in the middle of the night.

01:10:23.820 They're worried about home invasions, and on average, it's actually more than one person, that's what nobody really talks about.

01:10:29.020 And the most uncomfortable talking point that the left does not like about the Second Amendment, it's not even about any of those things.

01:10:34.600 It's about curbing tyranny.

01:10:36.540 It's about curbing an out-of-control government, curbing their power and authority. 0.91

01:10:40.100 That is an uncomfortable truth, the basis of the Second Amendment that the left doesn't want to acknowledge, so they always use this dumb talking point about deer.

01:10:48.700 Well, Joe Biden was making a similar point, and he told this weird story.

01:10:54.540 I've got to tell you, I have questions about whether this is true.

01:10:57.540 To me, it feels made up.

01:10:59.260 I'm going to play it, though, but it's about his alleged encounter on, like, a Delaware Creek with an alleged hunter, and, you know, Joe Biden playing the tough guy.

01:11:07.620 Here it is.

01:11:08.180 Listen to soundbite form.

01:11:11.100 I was down in southern Delaware, doing a lot of hunting and fishing down there, and I was walking up one of the creek beds, and the guy standing there said, you want to take my gun?

01:11:20.400 I said, no, I'll take your gun.

01:11:21.940 He said, well, you're telling me I can't have more than the next number of bullets in my gun.

01:11:28.080 And I said, what do you think?

01:11:29.580 The deer you're hunting are wearing Kevlar vests.

01:11:31.680 What the hell do you need 20 bullets for? 0.99

01:11:33.900 You must be a hell of a terrible shot. 1.00

01:11:36.640 I'm serious. 0.99

01:11:37.480 Think about it.

01:11:38.220 Okay, I'm just going to go out there and say that didn't happen.

01:11:42.640 That's like, yeah, I don't think it happened.

01:11:44.380 Well, he was walking down the creek with the Secret Service, and some rando just came up to him and was like, yo, you want to take my gun?

01:11:51.480 No, I called BS. 0.98

01:11:53.840 Oh, by the way, I can say bullshit now because Lent ended yesterday. 0.99

01:11:57.020 I forgot. 0.99

01:11:59.340 It didn't?

01:12:00.700 What do you mean?

01:12:01.440 My team said Lent ended yesterday.

01:12:03.320 I'm like, doesn't it go all the way through Easter?

01:12:05.140 And then I'm such a bad Catholic, Dana.

01:12:07.260 It does.

01:12:07.780 Oh, I was right.

01:12:08.620 Never mind.

01:12:09.080 Take it back.

01:12:09.740 God forgive me.

01:12:12.320 Do over.

01:12:12.960 Do over.

01:12:13.360 We'll just rewind time.

01:12:14.420 Pretend that didn't happen.

01:12:15.440 So bad. 0.90

01:12:17.440 It's such a bad Catholic. 1.00

01:12:18.260 It's all right.

01:12:18.760 You have another thing to confess, Dana.

01:12:20.480 Okay, anyway.

01:12:21.520 So, yeah, I don't think that happened. 0.96

01:12:23.140 But, yeah, so you're a bad shot if you can't shoot your deer in less than 20 shots.

01:12:27.560 You brought up a really good point about Secret Service and advancing that area.

01:12:30.800 There's no way that you're going to have, you know, some, you know, hunter out there just when you have Joe Biden with all the Secret Service going out there into the woods.

01:12:37.340 Nobody believes this happened.

01:12:38.960 Just like I don't believe the whole thing about the trucker named Mama.

01:12:41.680 And I also don't believe the story about his Freddy Krueger pool where there was a basement in the pool's gym and he went down there and some Freddy Krueger guy cut him a chain to go beat some weird gangster named after a cereal in the parking lot.

01:12:52.400 What?

01:12:52.520 Nobody believes that either.

01:12:53.980 So these are all stories that he just makes up.

01:12:57.420 And, again, we're not worried about deer coming into our house.

01:12:59.780 We're worried about, I don't know, people like in Shanghai, dragies out in the streets putting our pets in bags and beating them to death on camera.

01:13:06.420 That's actually happening in Shanghai.

01:13:08.520 We're worried about what we saw in Australia.

01:13:11.060 So that's why that's why we have them.

01:13:12.960 And also one final point.

01:13:14.660 This is the same confused elderly man who told everybody to go out on a balcony and just fire their shotgun up in the air.

01:13:21.340 If you think you hear something in the woods, I didn't know everybody had balconies.

01:13:25.080 And also you, that's illegal.

01:13:26.980 So he's telling everyone to go out and commit a crime.

01:13:29.000 And then yesterday he shook hands with the air.

01:13:30.840 So I don't know.

01:13:31.460 He did.

01:13:33.020 Wait, but we've talked about before, too, how.

01:13:34.760 OK, so they're very clear on reporting the number of deaths caused by the use of a gun, but they don't.

01:13:41.480 They're nowhere near as good as reporting the number of deaths prevented by use of a gun and all the good guys who have used guns in America to prevent violent crime from happening.

01:13:51.060 And you look at things like what we saw in the New York City subway the other day with this guy.

01:13:55.340 It's a miracle no one was killed, but he he shot 33 times.

01:13:59.980 He actually hit 10 people.

01:14:01.600 And if there had been more lax gun laws in New York, maybe somebody would have had a gun on that subway train and taken this guy out and saved a lot of people, a lot of heartache and life endangering injuries.

01:14:14.040 Yeah, that's a good point, too, because, I mean, apparently the guy was acting, you know, really circumspect right when he walks in and he's looking around and he's got, you know, his weird backpack and everything else.

01:14:25.020 I mean, I think if someone had been there, a good person who had been trained and who could, you know, rely upon their skill set, I mean, definitely, I absolutely think that that something like that could have been prevented.

01:14:36.080 And the number because the number that gets thrown around a lot and they call it defensive gun uses, which is how they categorize it, how the feds categorize it.

01:14:44.080 And it's anywhere between, you know, 500,000 to maybe 2 million.

01:14:48.560 Sometimes people are more generous and they say two and a half million cases annually of a firearm that is used either in defense of a life.

01:14:55.720 One of the reasons why there's such a wide number and a number of people have looked into this is because every different every different state and locality has a different way of reporting or counting whether it's considered a DGU.

01:15:06.640 So sometimes if you're presenting, that's counted, sometimes it's not counted unless you're actually squeezing the trigger off at a criminal who's trying to, who's endangering your life.

01:15:15.860 But we do know, though, that the number that is recorded of defensive gun usages does outweigh that of criminally used firearms.

01:15:23.840 And I just think that that that has a place in this debate.

01:15:27.560 If we're going to talk about restricting people based on what criminals do, why can't we talk about empowering people based on what the law abiding do lawfully with their lawfully owned property?

01:15:38.540 That's never included in this entire debate.

01:15:41.100 And it's never acknowledged by the administration, which is incredibly disingenuous.

01:15:44.180 And it's why I just you just can't even get involved in the debate in the first place if we're not going to consider all the evidence.

01:15:49.420 That's such a good point. And I hate that they don't point that out even on the view.

01:15:52.820 They put on some, you know, nominal conservative that agrees with all the points made, right, like gives up the farm on all the gun debate, doesn't raise any of these these points because they don't want these points raised.

01:16:03.100 But I'll I'll ask you this. This is this. I mean, this is for the audience.

01:16:06.600 God forbid you were on the New York City subway and a crazed shooter came on, starts dropping smoke grenades and shooting people.

01:16:13.480 Would you want a Joy Behar on your train or would you want an armed Dana Lash sitting there? 1.00

01:16:20.360 Truly, I'd like me. I don't trust my security. Anybody.

01:16:24.380 Ten. I wouldn't want what is she going to do? Scream about her truth to them. 0.94

01:16:28.380 Is she going to be like, did you see the gun free zone signs?

01:16:31.460 I mean, this is all the fault of the Supreme Court.

01:16:34.440 Yeah, it still has to be decided by Supreme Court.

01:16:38.080 And you say I would definitely rather rely on myself.

01:16:40.360 I've got we've gone through so many. My husband and I have gone through so many hours of training where we've blown doors off of, you know, houses.

01:16:48.160 I mean, not like actual houses that someone lives in.

01:16:50.420 Like, you know, it's like a practice house that you run drills felony.

01:16:53.520 Yeah. I'm just just blew the door off our front door, our front door off, Megan.

01:16:57.140 But we've gone through active shooter drills, whether it's in something like a school, a house, a public area.

01:17:03.760 I've done force on force training, have done night training.

01:17:06.200 So because everyone always says that, oh, well, you're going to rise to the rise to the challenge that never happens.

01:17:12.920 It's not like a movie. What happens is you fall back to your highest level of skills.

01:17:16.260 You fall back to your highest level of training and you have to train frequently because you get rusty.

01:17:21.960 What is it? I did ballet for a long time and my instructor would always say if somebody misses, you know, if you miss a day, only the dancer can tell.

01:17:29.060 If you miss a week, the instructor can tell. And if you miss more than that, the audience can tell.

01:17:33.000 It's kind of the same way with firearms training. You have to keep at it.

01:17:37.100 You have to keep your skills sharp. And I want someone like that, whether it's myself or someone else in this horrific situation.

01:17:45.220 I want someone who is humble enough to realize that they have to practice because they're not a superhuman.

01:17:50.920 I want someone who's humble enough to realize that they have to fall back to their highest level of training and someone who is aware and responsible and who is also calm in a situation.

01:18:01.020 It's got to be the calmest person in the room to figure your way out of something like that, because you have a lot of things to consider.

01:18:06.780 You have other people there. You're in a train car. You're underground. Where are your exits?

01:18:11.780 I mean, these are all things because when you're, you know, your fight or flight kicks in, everything slows down like the matrix and you're identifying all this stuff and you've got to figure out how you're going to act.

01:18:22.420 And that's when your skills come in. So I want someone like that, not a Joy Behar, who advocates against all of those things.

01:18:29.420 I want someone like that in the trench with me.

01:18:31.640 And you know what? She would be so grateful to have you there, notwithstanding what she says.

01:18:36.840 She probably wouldn't.

01:18:38.460 Millions on that set.

01:18:40.160 It's all right. Lynn's almost over, Megan. You don't have to be nice on that.

01:18:44.060 I know. How sad is it that I was misled by my team and I believed it that it was over and I started swearing.

01:18:48.940 Oh, yeah, that's Abby's fault. Debbie, Canadian Debbie. She's Canadian. She doesn't know. 0.98

01:18:52.440 All right. More with Dana Lash coming up. 1.00

01:18:55.440 Don't go away because there's an update on Greg Abbott of Texas sending all those migrants up to Washington, D.C., 1.00

01:19:01.240 what the White House said about it publicly and then what they ran and did behind the scenes.

01:19:05.660 Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas, kind of sick about the Biden border policies,

01:19:14.320 decided to put some of these migrants that Joe Biden's letting out and welcoming in and then letting out and then, you know,

01:19:19.920 bringing to places like New York in the middle of the night in large part.

01:19:23.040 But for the most part, they're staying in Texas.

01:19:24.280 And he decided to put him on buses and ship him to Washington, D.C., which is just, I think, quite brilliant.

01:19:31.020 So Jen Psaki was asked about that. 0.86

01:19:33.860 And here's here's how she claimed to feel about Greg Abbott's move.

01:19:38.780 This is SOT 11.

01:19:40.160 The first bus of migrants arrived in D.C. today.

01:19:44.160 Texas Governor Greg Abbott making good on his promise to send migrants to the president's doorstep.

01:19:49.980 But I think you previously called it a publicity stunt.

01:19:54.060 Is that still the view of the White House?

01:19:56.140 Can you give us any reaction to this busload of migrants arriving here in D.C.? 0.98

01:20:01.560 Well, these are all migrants who have been processed by CBP and are free to travel.

01:20:05.540 So it's nice.

01:20:06.800 The state of Texas is helping them get to their final destination as they await in their their outcome of their immigration proceedings.

01:20:12.740 And they're all in immigration proceedings.

01:20:15.160 It's nice.

01:20:15.820 It's nice.

01:20:16.280 She likes it.

01:20:16.840 She appreciates him giving them a ride, which, of course, is not true, because according to the Washington Examiner, the Border Patrol has now stopped releasing migrants to, in particular, the town that called in Governor Abbott buses to D.C.

01:20:31.780 So, in other words, the town that sent the migrants to D.C. was receiving way too many. 0.99

01:20:38.040 They only have 16000 people and they've been dumping a thousand migrants per week in this little town.

01:20:42.900 And that town is now reporting no sooner did this the news break that they were shipping them to D.C.

01:20:49.400 Then suddenly they stopped releasing them into that town.

01:20:53.260 So she doesn't think it's nice.

01:20:55.140 The bottom line is it's working to push back.

01:20:57.960 She doesn't want them coming to D.C.

01:21:00.120 She wants Governor Abbott and all the Texans to have to deal with this crisis.

01:21:03.740 And she and her beautiful town in northern Virginia isn't going to have to see one person who they've let cross that border illegally.

01:21:11.940 Yeah, well, that's a great point, Megan.

01:21:14.080 And with Psaki, she doesn't have to bear the financial burden as a resident of Virginia for this either.

01:21:19.420 I mean, I think it's I think what I think somewhere around a billion dollars, something I think is actually probably over that.

01:21:26.880 What Texans actually have to spend to not only for the detention facilities, but also for Border Patrol and for any kind of Medicare services, educational services.

01:21:37.840 Actually, it's way over a billion dollars.

01:21:39.020 I forget the actual number, but it's a lot of money.

01:21:40.920 And I asked AG Ken Paxson the other day, I'm like, do we get like a credit on our taxes, our theft from the government, you know, every year?

01:21:48.320 I mean, we're all paying our fair share.

01:21:49.940 Do we get a credit as Texans because of all of the money that we're having to spend for this federal?

01:21:56.200 Not really immigrate.

01:21:57.260 It's an it's an immigration program by way of not enforcing immigration law.

01:22:01.700 I know that there are a number of lawsuits about this.

01:22:03.820 But what gets me, Megan, about this is that there are Supreme Court cases.

01:22:07.420 Prince V. U.S. comes to mind when it concerns the commandeering clause and federal programs and the government that cannot direct states to spend their physical or financial resources on these federal programs.

01:22:19.220 Yet that's what that's what's happening in all of these border states.

01:22:21.760 You know, back in the Obama-Biden years, Jan Brewer tried doing this.

01:22:26.520 She was trying to send people back over the border when she was governor of Arizona. 1.00

01:22:29.760 And that's when the Obama DOJ went after her. 0.99

01:22:32.120 And then that was a Supreme Court case, Arizona versus the United States, where governor's hands were effectively tied.

01:22:38.220 And they couldn't do a single thing about the crime.

01:22:41.460 They couldn't deport.

01:22:42.280 They couldn't detain for, you know, any kind of period after what the federal government had dictated.

01:22:46.860 So you have all of these people like Jen Psaki, who's never been to the border.

01:22:50.220 She's never been to Del Rio.

01:22:51.680 She's never been down there to the to the RGV sector in McAllen, Texas.

01:22:55.840 She's never seen what these Border Patrol agents have to deal with.

01:22:59.140 She hasn't seen the amount of ground that these Border Patrol agents, who, by the way, are predominantly Hispanic.

01:23:04.160 And I know that's important to the left because they like to act like they're a bunch of white supremacists down there at the border,

01:23:08.680 when actually these are Hispanics who realize how detrimental they're Americans. 1.00

01:23:13.100 They don't want this stuff happening either.

01:23:15.120 The United States is the only country not afforded the respect and grace to be able to determine who comes into our country and who doesn't. 0.96

01:23:23.140 These border agents have miles and miles and miles, hundreds of miles of ground to cover.

01:23:27.600 They can't get border agents to replace the ones that leave because it's a very stressful job.

01:23:32.400 Nobody wants the job.

01:23:33.500 You're under it's under you're underappreciated.

01:23:35.520 You're smeared in the press.

01:23:37.120 Meanwhile, you have human trafficking, which is now rivaling the drug trade in terms of making money for these these coyotes.

01:23:43.720 I've been down there at the border.

01:23:44.880 I've seen this.

01:23:45.620 Megan, I have to tell you one of the saddest stories I've ever heard.

01:23:48.320 And I saw photos of this.

01:23:49.560 I was sitting at a table with having lunch with one of the Border Patrol chiefs.

01:23:53.420 And this was down the RGV area.

01:23:54.860 And he was telling us the story.

01:23:56.760 What usually happens is you'll have a group of people illegally crossing.

01:24:00.300 And then while they're they they'll turn themselves into the Border Patrol.

01:24:03.120 And while they're distracting Border Patrol, it's usually when you have like an illicit drug shipment, so to speak, that crosses the Rio, whether it's fentanyl or something else.

01:24:12.500 So they'll try to distract Border Patrol and concentrate Border Patrol response with a bunch of like kids or, you know, a large group of people.

01:24:20.600 And they were telling me how many times that happens a month.

01:24:23.640 And they also told me the story of one time in a Border Patrol agent, just by the grace of God, happened to see this, saw a shiny reflective, something shining, reflective in the tall grass by the Rio, because not every area you can just like walk across where we were.

01:24:37.160 It's a steep embankment.

01:24:38.660 There's tons of brush.

01:24:40.060 You can actually really, you know, hide from, you know, if there's any kind of air surveillance, which, you know, drones and all of that.

01:24:45.500 But it was a wheelchair and it was a paraplegic child that had been tossed onto the riverbank.

01:24:51.900 I saw the photos of this.

01:24:52.980 This child had been tossed onto the riverbank.

01:24:54.860 His wheelchair had been tossed over.

01:24:56.520 I don't they don't know how long he was laying out.

01:24:58.920 And this was in August three by on the banks of the Rio Grande down there in RGV.

01:25:05.100 Super hot, super humid, mosquitoes, everything else awful.

01:25:09.140 This is the type of stuff that we're dealing with.

01:25:10.760 This is the type of stuff that federal inaction creates.

01:25:13.820 They claim that they care about people, but they're completely fine with essentially working in partnership with these drug cartels and making them rich, enriching coyotes and advertising that people can come here and you're all taken care of.

01:25:26.080 That's not that's not the case.

01:25:27.520 It's chaos at the border.

01:25:29.000 And it's chaos for these families who get this false advertising from an administration that only pretends to care about them during election periods.

01:25:36.100 Oh, that's awful.

01:25:37.480 That's right.

01:25:37.980 And they want us to think that their policy is the humane one.

01:25:41.080 And it's about to get a whole lot worse because they're going to lift that Title 42.

01:25:44.680 They're going to the Trump era rule that said we don't have to entertain anybody's asylum claims while we're dealing with covid.

01:25:51.860 And so that's the end of May that that's going to happen.

01:25:53.920 And it's going to go from bad to worse down there.

01:25:56.220 One final note on the the alleged.

01:25:58.280 It's nice.

01:25:59.100 It's nice that they're doing that.

01:26:00.640 Another lie.

01:26:01.360 But the another reason we know is that the mayor of this town of forgive me, I don't know how to pronounce it, Uvalde, U-V-A-L-D-E, Texas, where they were releasing all these migrants. 0.61

01:26:14.780 He said to the Washington Examiner that Mayorkas, our DHS chief, told the Border Patrol agents there, quote, to highly encourage these people not to get on any buses going to Washington, D.C.

01:26:28.980 So they stopped dumping them in the town of Uvalde.

01:26:32.800 And then he said to the migrants or to the Border Patrol agents to tell the migrants, do not get on a bus going to Washington, D.C.

01:26:39.640 Don't get on one going to Delaware either.

01:26:41.620 Probably they added you stay in beautiful Texas.

01:26:44.740 That's the place you want to be in August.

01:26:46.040 And then what this guy said, this McLaughlin, again, his name is Don McLaughlin, mayor of this town.

01:26:52.700 He said, I think, quoting now from the Washington Examiner piece, stated 413, I think the government is trying to keep the governor's bus program quiet because if they come up there, they get out on the steps of the Capitol, the whole world will see what we're seeing in South Texas and along the southwest border every day.

01:27:08.740 And that is not all about family units and young children, which is a tragedy, no question.

01:27:15.160 But all of a sudden, what you're going to see is these young adult age males and females getting off buses, not families with kids.

01:27:22.980 You will see what we see.

01:27:24.820 I don't think they want that narrative seen.

01:27:27.860 I bet he's right.

01:27:29.840 Yeah, I think he is absolutely right.

01:27:31.480 Yeah.

01:27:31.580 And that floor is a moment that they had that was encouraging people to just bring whatever kids over if they could find a rent a kid program, essentially.

01:27:38.240 Where you could bring kids over and your their family unit was then justified to stay.

01:27:42.780 These are let's be real.

01:27:43.860 These are not people like what you see in Ukraine and refugees going into Poland. 1.00

01:27:48.320 This is not the same thing.

01:27:49.660 A lot of this is people that are looking for work.

01:27:52.300 And granted, there are a lot of Central American countries that have very corrupt forms of government.

01:27:56.420 But it's not like what we're seeing with Ukrainian refugees going into Poland.

01:27:59.960 And we can't stay in our country and file for asylum because that's how the asylum process works.

01:28:04.820 You don't have to just go into the country and illegally cross to file.

01:28:08.240 But, yeah, you're seeing a lot of people who they're coming because they they they want jobs.

01:28:12.120 They want to they want to work and they want to they I mean, we have a process you need to come in.

01:28:16.600 So we know exactly who's coming in.

01:28:17.940 Go through the legal process.

01:28:19.220 What gets me about this, too, Megan, in terms of dissuading people to get on buses to go to Washington, D.C., I haven't seen any of the people who were traveling down to some of these detention facilities like a couple of years ago when they would take their field trips, their congressional field trips to go and do their poverty chic immigration tour down here.

01:28:39.440 AOC standing by the fence and crying in her all white outfit, you know, good grief there. 1.00

01:28:46.360 They're there in D.C.

01:28:47.100 They could have a welcome wagon as they get off the bus blocks away from the Capitol.

01:28:50.420 They could be welcoming people, not doing anything, not doing anything like that.

01:28:54.320 So my idea is this.

01:28:55.160 I was talking to Ken Paxton.

01:28:56.880 Granted, I was trying not to trip up the attorney general of Texas and try to get him into committing a crime with me.

01:29:01.700 But I do think that maybe, you know, you can play that game.

01:29:05.740 Republicans should go down to the border and just start registering people to vote as Republican right when they're coming across.

01:29:10.000 Yes, welcome to end this.

01:29:12.340 That's a very good point.

01:29:14.880 Last but not least, the new ATF would be chief.

01:29:19.840 The NRA didn't like the last guy and Biden had to pull him because he even had Democrats saying he's way too anti-gun.

01:29:26.840 It's not going to happen.

01:29:28.080 But now he's got a new guy.

01:29:29.460 He's always a fruitcake.

01:29:31.120 He's got a new guy.

01:29:32.680 What do you think about the new guy?

01:29:33.900 Do you think he's going to get through?

01:29:35.000 Do you think the more moderate Dems like Manchin and so on are going to get behind this guy? 0.69

01:29:40.080 He's just he's he's just dopey and boring enough that he might get more Democrat support than Mark Chipman did.

01:29:48.100 For people to know, Mark Chipman literally came from the Bloomberg Giffords, you know, every town. 0.88

01:29:53.960 He was like he had been a former ATF agent and then he went in to become a gun control advocate and he was making up all these stories about Waco and all this other stuff.

01:30:04.120 And he made fun of people who believe in firearms for sale. 0.93

01:30:06.560 He was just a nut job. 0.99

01:30:07.520 So he was such an embarrassment. 0.99

01:30:09.900 They had to pull him.

01:30:10.620 So now you have the Steve Dettelsbach, who was a U.S. attorney in Ohio, I believe AG was running for AG.

01:30:16.260 And he's a big red flag supporter.

01:30:20.140 He's a big supporter of universal background checks.

01:30:22.700 But yet he can't articulate clearly how having universal background checks doesn't create a federal firearms registry where everybody in the government, you know, making those trustworthy people who handled all the FISA stuff in 2016 with Trump and with Carter Page.

01:30:36.860 You know, all those folks, all those folks would get to know exactly how many firearms you have if we have universal background checks because you have you can't do it without a federal firearms registry.

01:30:44.780 So he supports all of that stuff.

01:30:47.120 I think just on that basis alone, that support is a violation of the Firearm Owners Protection Act, which is passed in the 80s to protect average everyday folks like us from having, you know, federal firearms registering, the government knowing all of this stuff because he doesn't support what is established law.

01:31:03.040 I can't support him.

01:31:04.420 They haven't had an acting director.

01:31:06.040 They think he's going to get through.

01:31:06.980 But he this is the same guy who he lost that election for AG and he claimed it was rigged.

01:31:12.660 I think Rice's mom played a role in that, apparently.

01:31:14.880 But he claimed it was rigged.

01:31:16.000 I thought you weren't allowed to do that.

01:31:17.240 You can.

01:31:17.560 The Democrats reject politicians, don't they?

01:31:19.460 Unless their name's Stacey Abrams or Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or anyway, maybe he falls within that line because supposedly if you say it's rigged, you can no longer run for office ever again because you're.

01:31:30.000 Well, Megan, Democrats, if they don't win elections, they're always rigged because, you know, Democrats should be elected.

01:31:36.160 And if they are not elected, it's because the election is rigged and it was stolen from them.

01:31:40.440 That's in every case throughout history.

01:31:42.580 He's just a white male Stacey Abrams up there in Ohio.

01:31:45.360 That's who he is.

01:31:46.380 No, the ATF, one quick note, they haven't had an acting director in years.

01:31:49.640 So I don't think we need one now.

01:31:51.920 Yeah, exactly right.

01:31:52.840 Maybe this is a chance to save the federal taxpayer some money.

01:31:55.860 Dana Lash, always a pleasure.

01:31:57.040 So good to talk to you.

01:31:58.460 Good to talk to you, Megan.

01:31:59.520 Thanks for having me.

01:32:00.160 OK, up next, believe it or not, my team put together a compilation of just how bad I failed at giving up swearing for Lent, which may or may not be over.

01:32:09.780 Don't go away.

01:32:17.360 I hope you all have a wonderful Easter weekend.

01:32:21.140 As many of you know, I gave up swearing this year for Lent, which may or may not be over.

01:32:25.740 Apparently there's a debate even within the Catholic community about when it ends.

01:32:29.140 Is it on Holy Thursday?

01:32:30.400 Is it on Easter Sunday?

01:32:31.820 In any event, I shouldn't be swearing today.

01:32:33.760 My attempt to give up swearing for Lent, well, it didn't go so well as listeners to this show know.

01:32:38.320 In fact, it went so poorly that my team started keeping track and has apparently made a compilation of my many missteps for us to have a good laugh or a good cry.

01:32:49.800 Let's watch.

01:32:50.880 He had said, you want to talk about that piece of, and I can't say the word because I'm not swearing for Lent, doing very poorly, but trying.

01:32:57.380 In his word, there's scary MFers.

01:33:00.480 Again, trying not to swear.

01:33:01.700 It's Lent. 1.00

01:33:02.220 They were like, this is bullshit. 1.00

01:33:03.760 There's, once again, I can't ring in my dirty mouth. 1.00

01:33:05.920 I gave up swearing for Lent, Paul. 0.99

01:33:07.160 Those who know anything about me know that I can take an enormous shitstorm in my life without panicking.

01:33:12.780 Once again, I swore. 0.54

01:33:13.960 Still Lent.

01:33:14.900 Lord forgive me. 1.00

01:33:16.020 He must have been sitting there learning all the lessons going, oh, shit. 1.00

01:33:19.560 Oh, I swore again. 1.00

01:33:21.280 I mean, dang.

01:33:22.420 Dang.

01:33:22.780 It's so hard.

01:33:23.600 Sorry.

01:33:23.720 I only have two more, what is it, two more weeks of Lent.

01:33:25.880 I asked somebody if you can sub in a new something to give up in the middle of Lent, and the answer was no.

01:33:30.860 So I've just got to, I got to see it through to the end, ladies. 1.00

01:33:33.100 And I was like, fuck these guys. 1.00

01:33:34.800 Sorry. 1.00

01:33:35.120 I'm in Lent, and I'm trying not to swear, but I'm really doing poorly at it.

01:33:38.260 They'll hit some agreement with the Academy that has real teeth in it with money for some cause. 0.95

01:33:43.240 We can, not some bullshit woke cause that half of us hate. 0.97

01:33:45.940 I cannot stop swearing. 0.98

01:33:47.440 I've got to find something else to give up for Lent.

01:33:49.680 What's going on with that?

01:33:50.820 I don't, I can't, I don't mind swearing, but I gave it up for Lent.

01:33:54.040 You would never know, given the way I talk on this program.

01:33:56.880 That's what you gave up for Lent?

01:33:58.520 I gave up drinking booze.

01:33:59.900 I haven't had a drink in 30 days.

01:34:01.800 We have the explicit rating on our show, so you're allowed to swear. 1.00

01:34:05.840 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:34:06.300 But I'm not going to be joining you because I took a vow, my Lenten vow, to give up swearing for Lent, and I have done the worst fucking job at it. 1.00

01:34:16.060 What? 0.94

01:34:16.280 I tried, but hey, I tried.

01:34:22.440 Lord, forgive me is right, and he is a forgiving God, so I should be okay.

01:34:26.400 So now the big question is really, should I try it again next year, or like to redeem myself, or should I just find something new?

01:34:32.400 Maybe I'll go Arthur's route and try the alcohol.

01:34:35.020 I would love for you to weigh in.

01:34:36.460 Tell me in the Apple reviews.

01:34:37.880 I read them all.

01:34:38.960 I read them every day, so go ahead there, drop one.

01:34:41.060 And coming up next week, I am excited about Monday's show, the man who led the U.S. hockey team in one of the most iconic moments in American history.

01:34:53.140 Oh, who could forget the miracle on ice?

01:35:06.220 The captain of that team, Michael Ruzzioni, is here to talk about the enduring legacy of that moment, whether something like that could ever happen again in a country that feels so divided right now.

01:35:17.520 And what does he think about what's happening with Russia, the United States, and the latest showdowns that we find ourselves in?

01:35:24.520 Quite a different world, although how different is it, right, from 1980 when that happened in the Olympics?

01:35:29.820 Can't wait to meet him and talk to him.

01:35:31.780 Thanks for joining us today.

01:35:33.160 Have a wonderful, blessed Easter weekend.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - April 15, 2022

The Truth About Biden's Decline, and the Liberal Meltdown Over Elon Musk with Buck Sexton and Dana Loesch ｜ Ep. 301

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