The Megyn Kelly Show - The TRUTH About Kamala and Newsom, with Stephen A. Smith, Plus Hypocrite Meghan Markle and Chappelle, with Britt Mayer and Will Witt ｜ Ep. 1297

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00:01:03.400 XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn

00:01:14.760 Kelly Show and happy Thursday. Welcome to another wild day in the news world. Stephen A. Smith will

00:01:19.700 be here in just a few minutes and later another edition of Brit and Wit taking on cultural stories

00:01:26.460 and there are a lot of them, including, okay, this, the Duchess of Duplicity is out of control.

00:01:34.820 She spoke out earlier today in Australia where she was attending a youth mental health organization

00:01:42.320 like conference. And to the surprise of absolutely no one, she made it in front of this group of

00:01:49.780 suffering children. All about herself. Watch. For now 10 years, every day for 10 years, I've

00:01:58.580 been bullied and attacked and I was most trolled person in the entire world. Man, whoa, I'm still

00:02:04.580 here. And so when I think of all of you and what you're experiencing, I think so much of that is

00:02:11.280 having to realize that, you know, that industry, that billion dollar industry that is completely

00:02:17.860 anchored and predicated on cruelty to get clicks, that's not going to change. So you have to be

00:02:24.720 stronger than that. Okay, what is she even talking about? Literally, the Daily Mail is not writing

00:02:32.660 articles about the children in this mental health group. No one's targeting those kids.

00:02:40.400 You got targeted because you wanted to be, because you sought out the most eligible man

00:02:46.660 and bachelor in the world who was putty in your hands because you knew exactly how to exploit him

00:02:52.660 thanks to his mental trauma. You targeted him. He was on your vision board. Don't lie about it 0.87

00:02:58.100 because I'm the one who broke that news and I had it on a very good source, notwithstanding your

00:03:03.300 lies about you had no idea who the royal family was or who he was. Okay, sure. And you made it

00:03:08.140 happen because you wanted to feel important. You wanted a short form to mega fame. You weren't

00:03:13.960 getting it done on suits, so you decided to marry somebody way more famous than you, and you sought

00:03:19.280 to glom on to everything he had. That made you a target because you became a large public figure.

00:03:28.640 Every public figure has been subjected to negative scrutiny, often very intense and unpleasant.

00:03:36.460 You had the benefit of universally loving and adoring, praise-fawning press for a year.

00:03:48.680 When you started dating him, a biracial American princess, oh my God, the U.S. press went nuts.

00:03:56.480 The Brits, who are woker than we are, were self-flagellating themselves in every paper for not having had anybody of color in the family.

00:04:06.460 And they were bending over backwards to welcome you into the royal family and chastise themselves for not having had somebody as diverse and interesting as you prior to that. 0.99

00:04:15.640 It was pathetic. 1.00

00:04:17.740 And then you blew it by being a bitch and a bully to everyone around you. 1.00

00:04:23.220 I think we are now at over two dozen people who have left your employ, many, most, in tears after the bullying you subjected them to. 1.00

00:04:35.260 You perpetrated, not that was perpetrated against you.

00:04:38.960 And then when news of your terrible behavior got out, the press turned on you.

00:04:45.420 Yes, that's how life works.

00:04:48.200 Ask Blake Lively, who there's news on today, too, which we will get to.

00:04:52.600 That's what happens. 0.99

00:04:55.040 Stop going to groups of children.

00:04:58.560 Days ago, it was kids in a cancer hospital.

00:05:01.880 Now it's kids dealing with anxiety and depression.

00:05:03.960 and making it about yourself, your image rehab, or your need for publicity or to recast actual

00:05:13.480 events of the past as something much more favorable to you or trying to create people

00:05:19.440 who are much more sympathetic to you. Just stop, okay? Stop. It's the classic, you know,

00:05:25.760 you talk to somebody and they're like, oh, you know, I had a death in the family. This person

00:05:29.560 really important to me died. And you're like, I had one too. Let me tell you about mine.

00:05:33.960 No. Shut up. And honestly, like to try to bond with them like I was the most trolled person in 1.00

00:05:40.880 the world. You were the most beloved person in the world. You were the most. OK. And privileged,

00:05:45.780 the most privileged. Like you can relate to anything, anything that these kids are going

00:05:52.820 through because you've had some negative articles written about you while you sat inside your castle

00:05:58.060 with your tiara on and the crown jewels.

00:06:01.440 She's so clueless. 1.00

00:06:02.960 She has no idea why we don't like her. 0.52

00:06:06.080 She thinks it's because we've bought misleading press coverage.

00:06:10.580 No, no, we've watched you.

00:06:12.560 We've watched you get every advantage of the world

00:06:14.740 and then cry to ITV that no one asked about how you were doing.

00:06:19.260 We watched you bag the elephant, Prince Harry,

00:06:23.660 going to Africa together, going on world tours,

00:06:26.280 people fawning, falling at your feet with praise and admiration. And then you going on Oprah,

00:06:33.600 sticking a knife in the queen and her husband who was dying in the hospital at that moment,

00:06:39.300 letting people believe they might be racists. As it turns out, you appear to have been talking 0.70

00:06:44.260 about Queen Camilla, soon to be queen, and others within the royal family. But you wouldn't do

00:06:51.960 anyone the courtesy of saying it explicitly because you wanted to tar everyone with that

00:06:56.640 brush. You are a bully. And that is why the press turned on you. And now she has a lecture for these 1.00

00:07:03.840 kids on how you just have to be stronger. You got it. Why don't you try being stronger? You

00:07:09.600 sue every other publication that says something negative about you because you have such a thin

00:07:15.960 skin because you did your little shoot right to the top of the public figure scale by design

00:07:23.080 and then couldn't handle it when you got there. Honestly, there is something beneficial about

00:07:31.180 becoming a public figure more slowly. You take baby steps, both on your burgeoning fame and on

00:07:40.600 the downsides of it. And you skipping that, which was your intention, your goal, which you

00:07:48.380 successfully achieved, has cost you the wisdom that you would have attained had you earned it

00:07:55.180 step by step. So shame on you for using your time with children to make it about yourself,

00:08:03.620 to try to rehab yourself by referencing experience that have absolutely no bearing to these children.

00:08:09.160 Are these a bunch of child actors? I don't think so. It's social media and negative comments here

00:08:17.780 and there that these kids may or may not be seeing on Snapchat is not the same thing as you

00:08:23.900 earning negative press from the British and American tabloids and mainstream. The loathing

00:08:31.200 of you has gone mainstream. Thanks to one person, you with an assist from your husband, who's become

00:08:39.020 even more whiny and pathetic. He's talking to the, I'm going to get to this in a second. I believe 0.99

00:08:44.740 it or not, this is a second hour segment. I just like, I, I, I, whatever that this woman's self 1.00

00:08:50.640 pity is such a turnoff to me, but he's just as bad as she is. He's talking about how incredibly

00:08:57.920 anxious and depressed and overly obsessive. What's the word he uses? I was actually taken

00:09:05.680 aback by completely overwhelmed, completely overwhelmed we all feel. We do? I don't feel

00:09:12.920 completely overwhelmed. I don't feel anxious, stressed, helpless, powerless, and completely

00:09:17.280 overwhelmed. What are you completely overwhelmed about? How big is your mansion in Montecito that

00:09:21.980 you force us to watch in the promos for your wife's stupid shows that all fail, but that keep 1.00

00:09:27.640 getting picked up because her Hollywood power agent makes it happen. And she squeezed that last 1.00

00:09:32.840 bit of goodwill out of the Royal title to get to land a Netflix deal and you, your book deal. And 0.66

00:09:38.420 then the two of you are your Spotify deal. What are you completely overwhelmed about?

00:09:43.120 Honestly, he's obsessing over the death of his mother, which was tragic. Okay. It was like

00:09:48.260 30 years ago and he's still bringing it up. Most people have lost somebody very close to them in

00:09:56.180 the family. Some of us also lost parents right around that same age. We went on to deal with it,

00:10:04.460 to live our lives, to fill up our hearts and our heads with other more positive experiences,

00:10:12.740 to connect with other humans, see the goodness of humankind. We didn't say what he is saying today,

00:10:18.620 we didn't stay in the fetal position until we realized we needed mental health assistance.

00:10:24.620 Okay. Like he, this guy is a grown man. He's a father now of two. And he's talking about himself

00:10:31.140 in the fetal position, feeling again, completely overwhelmed by what? Your a hundred million

00:10:40.000 dollars, your role as a prince, your connection to the King of England. What is it that's

00:10:46.580 overwhelming you? I'm at, this is like, I can't with these two more on that in the second hour.

00:10:51.080 OK, that's a tease, believe it or not. All right. We're going to start here. Start after the start

00:10:57.400 with the latest in the race for the president in the Democratic primary. And we've been telling

00:11:02.260 you about all the issues with Republicans these days, and there are a lot. But Democrats might

00:11:07.400 have an even bigger political problem on their hands. And that is because, and this is so amazing,

00:11:11.960 Kamala Harris, she's going to run. She's going to win. No, she's not going to win. Remember how she

00:11:16.880 was like, oh, we're going to win. No, you're not going to win. Although God forbid, I mean,

00:11:20.860 like never say never, because given the state of the Republican party right now, can we really

00:11:24.720 rule it out? But she's going to run. She has quietly become the clear front runner by double

00:11:31.120 digits in the Democrat primary. Just when you think like, shit, like the news cycle's been so 0.99

00:11:37.900 bad for Republicans and like, it's just been depressing, you know? And now it's like, 0.99

00:11:42.420 God sprinkles a little moon dust on the cycle and Kamala Harris comes out and says she's thinking

00:11:50.260 about running and she turns out to be the front runner. In the RCP average of all polls, she's in

00:11:55.640 first place at 26.9%. That's not just one poll. That's the average of all polling, 26.9, followed

00:12:02.860 by Gavin Newsom at 18.9 and Pete Buttigieg back at 10.7, AOC at 7.9. Here's what's interesting

00:12:09.180 about it. Gavin Newsom has universal name recognition too. It's not like Pete Buttigieg

00:12:15.880 or Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, by the way, he's a 6.8. Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona,

00:12:21.640 he's a 5.2. Everybody knows who Gavin Newsom is in this country now. He's been ubiquitous this

00:12:26.860 past couple of years. So she's crushing him, notwithstanding the fact that they both have

00:12:32.440 universal name recognition. And the Democrats know she's an idiot, but they're getting ready 1.00

00:12:39.860 to nominate her again. Okay, we'll see. I mean, they may be getting ready to nominate her again. 1.00

00:12:45.820 I know you can make a strong case that's name recognition. She was the VP, whatever. I think

00:12:50.780 there's more to it than that, given that he also has the same name recognition or probably close,

00:12:55.580 close to what she has. The trend line is very clear. She's gaining, not losing support.

00:13:02.440 And it's incredible. How? How can that be? She is ahead in seven of the last nine polls,

00:13:08.140 including the last four. In the two most recent, she is up double digits. Gavin Newsom,

00:13:14.420 who many do perceive as the front runner, has not led a poll since February. So despite blowing a

00:13:19.940 billion dollars in 107 days, only to get walloped by Donald Trump, popular vote, all seven swing

00:13:27.640 States went for him, not her. I may get my biggest wish, my birthday wish, my wish at

00:13:34.000 New Year's Day, and Kamala Harris may be the Democratic nominee again. It's amazing. How

00:13:42.480 great would it be to watch a J.D. Vance or a Marco Rubio have a one-on-one debate with Kamala Harris?

00:13:50.900 And Kamala, she seems to know she's in a good position, which is surprising given her 0.99

00:13:55.420 unbelievable lack of self-awareness. She's in the Carolinas this week, where you say in the

00:14:00.460 Carolinas, yes, as part of her book tour, allegedly. And she posted this video, not about

00:14:07.540 her book, but about gas prices on X last night. Everyone. So I'm here in Charlotte since the

00:14:14.640 start of Trump's war of choice. It's 15 more dollars every time you fill up your tank of gas.

00:14:21.180 The price of diesel has now gone up 80 percent since the start of the war.

00:14:26.600 And you best believe that's going to carry over to how much you're paying for all the goods that are being transported on those semis.

00:14:33.320 We've got a president who is paying more attention to what he thinks is in his best political interest and personal interest, as opposed to what is in the best interest of working people in America.

00:14:43.760 OK, clearly that had been sped up because we all know she doesn't talk like that.

00:14:47.220 she, she, she's meandering. She's got vocal fry and she takes like 10 seconds to spit out two 1.00

00:14:54.040 words. But you know, frankly, I appreciate it because I'm short on time. Uh, first of all,

00:14:59.080 diesels, it is up, but it's not up 80%. It's up 50%. Um, so let's get our facts straight just

00:15:06.800 under 50%. I think it's 49.2. Um, but is Kamala Harris really trying to make us believe she

00:15:12.100 suddenly cares about gas prices? She cares about gas prices. You want to talk about record setting 1.00

00:15:16.380 gas prices. That's when you were the sitting vice president. That's when we saw a record

00:15:20.740 setting gas prices. It happened at the height of the Ukraine war in June, 2022, when regular gas

00:15:26.660 climbed up to $5.02 a gallon. Diesel got up to $5.82. And you were fine with that because you

00:15:39.580 were trying actively to decimate the oil and gas business. You made it very clear you wanted to

00:15:45.840 ban fracking. You wanted permits denied for more drilling. You were the opposite of drill, baby

00:15:51.340 drill. And that was fine by you because you hated fossil fuels and you felt like an environmental

00:15:55.980 warrior and you didn't give a shit about rising gas prices. In fact, when they were at that peak 0.96

00:16:01.600 back in 2022 after the Ukraine war, you lectured us on how it was like our civic duty to suck that

00:16:07.360 up. So you can't have it both ways, madam. These are some of the things you're going to have to

00:16:12.760 listen to if you do in fact decide to get into this race again. Will she actually do it? Here

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00:18:12.160 Great to see you, Megan. How are you doing? Is she, is she going to do it? Do you think she's

00:18:15.700 going to do it? Maybe. Um, but it's by default because who else do you have right now that

00:18:22.280 has stepped up? They've had a couple of years. Um, we haven't seen anybody, you know, I've been

00:18:26.940 on the record talking about how i think they're leaderless right now who's the definitive

00:18:31.220 individual you know you got a lot of look at the candidates that you put up there gavin newsom

00:18:36.080 all you're going to do is look at the state of california and the inordinate amount of problems

00:18:39.740 that they have in that state and you're going to say no way in hell you're going to look at

00:18:43.580 pete buddhich um he doesn't move a lot of people even though he's respected by some particularly

00:18:48.680 on the left he's not going to move a lot of people you look at josh shapiro obviously the

00:18:53.100 Things that have been going on in Israel, on Gaza and stuff like that, and the fomenting or the growth of anti-Semitism that's unfortunately been sifting through this country.

00:19:04.880 You know that's going to be something that's going to be counted against him.

00:19:07.760 Senator Mark Kelly, I don't know how much he's going to resonate with people right now.

00:19:11.780 The only thing that he's done that we've really, really noticed and paid attention to is the fact that, you know what, Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump definitely went after him after he, you know, wrote the play department with the videos instructing U.S. soldiers not to follow illegal orders.

00:19:28.280 And, you know, I took a lot of heat when I called them on the carpet for that, because I was saying I can say that American civilians can say that.

00:19:35.780 But every military person that I've spoken to says, if you if you serve in the military, you know better than doing that, because essentially you're implying that the command in chief would give an illegal order and that in and of itself can cause you trouble.

00:19:51.000 So you have to know better than coming out and being a part of that of that kind of noise that was aimed in the direction of the president and the secretary of defense or obviously the secretary of the Department of War.

00:20:03.580 So he didn't know better than that. And now he's got some problems with that.

00:20:06.720 So essentially, by default, that means Kamala Harris could be at the top of the heap.

00:20:11.400 I don't I don't I think that would be a mistake, obviously, because I think that she's had a chance of bites at the apple, not just once, but twice in 2020.

00:20:18.780 She couldn't even make it to Iowa. In this last election, you had 107 days. That's true. But you also had a billion and a half dollars. You understand? And you were to upgrade from Joe Biden and you still managed to lose that. I don't know how the Democratic Party will rally behind her being the candidate yet again, particularly after her book was calling out Josh Shapiro one minute, Gavin Newsom the other, et cetera, et cetera. But who knows?

00:20:44.200 So here's the interesting thing.

00:20:46.420 The Democrats are going to be in a position if they don't select her, which is the same one they tried to avoid when Biden was forced out.

00:20:53.180 They did not want to be seen as stepping over a black woman, given how important black women are to Democrat elections.

00:21:02.260 So there was a large segment of the Democrat, you know, political class saying we have no choice. 1.00

00:21:08.380 We've got to give it to her. 0.98

00:21:09.220 She's the sitting vice president. 0.84

00:21:10.200 like if we try to bypass her for a josh shapiro or somebody like that we're going to get killed 0.97

00:21:16.240 you cannot bypass a black woman female like the vp for a josh shapiro white guy well now we're 0.58

00:21:23.580 going to have a primary this time around that's right and if she gets bypassed in other words 0.69

00:21:29.280 doesn't win and she loses to the guy who's in the number two position who is a white straight

00:21:35.760 male Christian, Gavin Newsom, are they in the same position of having to look like

00:21:44.000 they cast her aside? They didn't want the black woman. 0.89

00:21:47.400 No, no, no. You ain't got to worry about that. I think that if you're the Democratic Party, 1.00

00:21:50.160 you're looking at certain things that the president and his administration have been

00:21:54.280 doing. Obviously, if you're on the left, you disagree with a couple of things. You're looking

00:21:57.960 at the employment gap. You're looking at the big, beautiful bill that they don't believe hasn't been

00:22:03.800 that big and beautiful nearly a trillion dollars in cuts to medicaid and obviously about 187 billion

00:22:09.440 when it came to the snap program and stuff like that you're looking at federal employees that 1.00

00:22:13.340 obviously a lot of black folks uh you know are definitely federal employees and the dissipation 0.67

00:22:18.740 that has taken place there so your thinking is excuse me desperate times call for desperate

00:22:23.180 measures this man has to be gone even though he's going to be scheduled to be gone in 2028 because

00:22:27.840 he's not going to circumvent the 22nd amendment of the constitution and run for a third term so

00:22:31.800 Now you're looking at J.D. Vance. You're looking at a Marco Rubio potentially or who knows who else.

00:22:36.460 And that's going to be your competition. Their mentality is going to be and it needs to be whatever it takes.

00:22:42.240 We don't care if it's male, it's female, it's black, it's white. 0.51

00:22:44.920 We got to win because you don't have the House, you don't have the Senate and you don't have the White House.

00:22:49.620 And you got to hope that all of this momentum that seems to be shifting or tilting a little bit left is something that's going to be to your benefit come the midterms.

00:22:57.260 But you don't even know that as of yet.

00:22:58.800 So because of that reality, I think that they understand that it can't be about what the Democrats, in my opinion, have done since Obama.

00:23:08.540 They didn't do this with Obama, Megan. But since Obama, this is the one thing that I have railed against the Democratic Party for a long time about the Republicans, the Republicans constituent out there.

00:23:19.160 Give them credit for this. You put DeSantis, Ramaswamy, Nikki Haley or whomever in their face.

00:23:25.420 And they said to hell with all of you. We want him as in Donald Trump. 0.91

00:23:30.260 The Democratic Party, whether it was Hillary Rodham Clinton, whether it was Joe Biden, whether it was Kamala Harris, they said as a party, this is who we want to the voters.

00:23:38.780 And we're picking your candidates for you. That is the difference that has hurt the Democratic Party.

00:23:44.000 They haven't been about the people. And until they get back to being that, they ain't going to stand a chance against the right because the people on the right are picking the candidates.

00:23:54.880 that is not the case with the left at least the last three elections and that's what has to change

00:23:59.620 so what's interesting from my perspective though is if they go with gavin newsom let's just say

00:24:04.380 because he's second in command there on the polls he i mean california is a disaster right steven

00:24:10.480 it's a it's a disaster every metric steve hilton was on the other day republican front frontrunner

00:24:17.260 period not just republican frontrunner for the california gubernatorial race right now

00:24:21.620 and was ticking through the number of stats,

00:24:24.220 like economic stats on how California has collapsed,

00:24:27.200 its education system has collapsed, its economy.

00:24:29.940 The only reason they have anything positive to report on it

00:24:32.200 is because so many people live in California.

00:24:34.520 So if you just look at the number of dollars earned,

00:24:37.240 it'll look big, but that's not because of government.

00:24:39.620 It's in spite of government.

00:24:41.460 Today, there is an article out in City Journal,

00:24:44.360 a great publication,

00:24:45.880 all about how they're giving out transgender care to illegals

00:24:56.100 who they're housing in homeless shelters in California right now. 0.99

00:25:00.880 So you're illegal. 0.96

00:25:02.340 You are taking the spot of an American in a homeless shelter. 1.00

00:25:06.060 On top of that, you get taxpayer-funded transgender hormones, 0.96

00:25:12.320 whatever it is, including surgeries.

00:25:14.280 One of the people that they interviewed said he got he got breast implants on the taxpayer dime and was waiting for his so-called bottom surgery on the taxpayer dime as well.

00:25:25.140 I mean, we have the soundbite. OK, let's watch that.

00:25:28.100 What is your name again? Jacqueline. Jacqueline.

00:25:31.100 This is the first time I am. I live in a shelter.

00:25:34.540 Yeah. A lot of Latino here. So definitely some are migrants or undocumented. 1.00

00:25:39.180 I've been there. And me as a trans woman, I feel safe.

00:25:44.400 Were you able to get the hormones or, you know?

00:25:48.240 Yeah, I did that with my doctor.

00:25:50.760 So Medi-Cal, you got the breast implants?

00:25:53.340 Yes.

00:25:54.320 Wow, taxpayer funded.

00:25:56.480 So here in California, they gave you the breast implants here?

00:26:01.080 Yes.

00:26:02.120 Free?

00:26:02.820 Yeah.

00:26:03.620 Wow, congratulations.

00:26:04.940 Do you feel like that's a good benefit for other migrants here in California?

00:26:10.940 Yeah, even though you're undocumented, you can get it. 0.98

00:26:16.080 Did you do bottom surgery? 0.88

00:26:17.920 I'm waiting for that one.

00:26:19.360 Wow, you're waiting for bottom surgery.

00:26:21.200 Are you happy with the results?

00:26:23.280 Yes.

00:26:24.920 How does the governor of that state become the Democrat nominee?

00:26:28.040 I'm going to tell you how.

00:26:29.540 And this is where it gets really, really tricky.

00:26:31.880 But I'm going to say this, especially to somebody like you and others on the right.

00:26:37.560 When we look at some folks and, you know, I'm a registered independent, lean left on social issues, lean right fiscally.

00:26:44.500 We know that. Here's my deal.

00:26:46.560 I'm a registered independent. Got you. Got you. I didn't know that, Megan, but thank you for telling me that.

00:26:50.300 Here's the deal. And this is what people haven't accepted.

00:26:53.940 When it comes to the progressive left, folks are looking at some place like the example that you just pointed out in the state of California.

00:27:00.740 And Megan, what they're thinking is, oh, it's incompetence. It's incompetence reigning. Look at what they're doing. Right. These people, they just don't know any better. No, they do. They don't care. You have some people in this country that hate America and they want to see it burn.

00:27:18.740 figuratively speaking they want to see wholesale changes some of them do whether it's migrants

00:27:26.280 legally or illegally here or some of the progressives the extreme I'm talking about

00:27:30.740 the extreme left not the centrist but the extreme left you have some of these people that want to

00:27:36.280 see America dismantled by the seams and a lot of people think they don't know what they're doing

00:27:41.500 No, they want that to happen. They want America to resemble a socialist state.

00:27:48.200 They want that. And so a lot of times people are not accepting that.

00:27:52.220 They're like this. You've got to see what Gavin Newsom in California is doing.

00:27:55.720 You can't like that. No, there are people there that do like it.

00:27:58.940 I've seen people that said that I'm telling you, I'll tell you a little quick story, Megan.

00:28:02.660 I had somebody look me in the face and said, I don't give a damn if I have to pay 75 percent of my money in taxes.

00:28:09.520 As long as everybody in the country has health care, I'm good. 1.00

00:28:13.640 I looked at that person, you lost your damn mind. 1.00

00:28:16.380 You get the hell away from me. 1.00

00:28:17.720 I want to talk to you.

00:28:18.660 I want to listen to you.

00:28:19.580 Seventy five percent of my money going to taxes to a government that's accumulated over thirty nine trillion dollars in debt.

00:28:26.620 And I'm supposed to believe they don't know what to do with my money. 0.87

00:28:29.180 You must be on drugs. 0.99

00:28:30.440 I told the person to get the hell out of my face. 0.99

00:28:32.700 I don't want to talk to you.

00:28:33.960 I don't want to talk to him.

00:28:35.040 Right.

00:28:35.400 And I walked away from it.

00:28:36.580 And it was at the Peninsula Hotel in Beverly Hills.

00:28:38.420 I almost cussed them out there in the hotel lobby. That's how bad it was because I thought it was ridiculous. Right. 0.96

00:28:43.220 Here's the flip side, though. Here's where the Republicans have to be careful, because when you say otherwise,

00:28:50.180 you're alluding to the importance of what you've lamented about America first.

00:28:55.680 And what is this president been doing? When you look at some of the things that he's been doing,

00:29:01.360 some of the decisions that he has been making, he has not been about America's being first.

00:29:08.420 in a lot of people's eyes who supported him and when you consider that combined with the fact

00:29:14.260 that he ain't running for the next election in 2028 well who is it that's going to come along

00:29:19.460 that's going to convince you that you need to stand behind them and support them and that

00:29:24.740 they're going to be about what you voted them to be about that's where it gets tricky so now it

00:29:30.260 comes to gavin newsom coming down the pike looks very smooth his slick back looking like a wannabe

00:29:34.900 He's Pat Riley, former coach, now president of basketball operations.

00:29:38.400 The hair works.

00:29:39.440 The suits look good.

00:29:40.520 He looks very presidential, very articulate, smooth, tall, handsome, the whole bit.

00:29:46.560 He looks the part, and he can talk it with the best of them.

00:29:50.180 So you got that going on without having Trump to go up against.

00:29:55.240 And the combination of those two things, if the right ain't careful, you might be in trouble in the midterms,

00:30:02.140 and you're definitely going to be in trouble in 2028.

00:30:04.900 that's where it all gets very interesting right yeah let's talk about let's talk about the right

00:30:09.640 in 2028 because right now the right is divided um over the war over the iran war and it's you

00:30:15.700 know there's definitely a fissure cutting right through the the coalition that elected trump

00:30:21.080 which includes non-republicans too but just you know there's the sort of america first and then

00:30:25.420 there's core maga maga kind of by definition is people who just support trump no matter what he

00:30:30.280 does and then there's the rest of the republican party which includes a large number of america

00:30:34.780 firsters. Anyway, there's a divide. And it's, I can't really say publicly or in any way that

00:30:41.780 there's a divide between J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio on the war. What we know from the New York

00:30:46.180 Times is that J.D. Vance spoke up against it and really strongly pushed Trump not to do it

00:30:51.060 for many reasons, including that it would completely fracture his coalition and the

00:30:56.520 Republican Party. It would violate a campaign promise. And we know that Marco Rubio called,

00:31:01.500 quote, bullshit, that's a quote, on what Netanyahu had promised we could achieve easily when Trump 0.99

00:31:08.060 met with him the day before in the situation room. But as we head towards 2028, and as soon 0.97

00:31:14.580 as we're done with these midterms, that contest starts, those two, whether they're explicit about 0.98

00:31:20.460 it or not, are going to be like two silverback gorillas with each other. Rubio's basically said,

00:31:25.940 if JD runs, he's the nominee. But let's face it, Marco Rubio has been running for president and in

00:31:32.700 politics a lot longer than JD Vance. And he may sense some weakness on JD's part because he's so

00:31:39.120 tightly linked to Trump. More so, you could make the case than Marco, even though they're both

00:31:44.200 very linked. And maybe he's going to sense an opportunity, Stephen A. And I don't know whether

00:31:47.900 he's going to want to let it pass him by this go-round or whether he might contest this or

00:31:52.960 sort of just generate a bunch of press that's damaging to JD to the point where it's like,

00:31:57.580 for the good of the party, I got to do it, which is going to not heal the rift. It's going to

00:32:02.400 divide MAGA further, right? Everybody's going to choose their guy and have a fight. And then

00:32:07.560 do the GOP-ers go into the real contest weakened because they are likely to have a pretty brutal

00:32:14.680 primary battle of their own? Maybe I shouldn't say are likely to. They might. They might.

00:32:19.760 Well, from my centrist vantage point, I'm going to tell you that I favor Marco Rubio heavily, former senator, secretary of state, national security advisor.

00:32:33.020 I think that he has comported himself like an adult in the room.

00:32:38.320 And when I think about the presidency, I think that's incredibly important.

00:32:42.580 He can snap back at somebody with the best of them. As he snapped back at the Democratic senator that said if he had to do it all over again, he wouldn't have voted for him. And Marco Rubio, that soundbite, Megan, I'm sure you know of it, where he says, I consider that a compliment. That means I'm doing my job.

00:32:58.740 You know, because Marco Rubio has comported himself like an adult in the room.

00:33:03.140 I don't trust J.D. Vance. I just don't.

00:33:06.480 And the reason and the reason why, because I think he aspires to be Trump like instead of being his own man.

00:33:12.280 That's my personal impression of what I see when I see him.

00:33:15.680 I'm not questioning his acumen, his knowledge, his political savviness.

00:33:18.720 I thought when he debated on the stage against Tim Walz, not that that was a big deal, as we've come to learn.

00:33:23.380 But I thought that he took him to school during the vice presidential debates and stuff like that.

00:33:27.820 But I think that, you know, the folks that on too many occasions, he doesn't seem to be an individual that would be interested in governing for all.

00:33:39.140 It would be in governing for his clique of people.

00:33:41.500 Whereas when I think about Marco Rubio, I think that he's more expansive than that.

00:33:46.000 And I think he's more of a presidential figure.

00:33:48.080 That's just my personal opinion.

00:33:49.760 Having said all of that, there is no doubt that J.D. will be formidable.

00:33:53.600 He's young. He's smart. He's sharp.

00:33:55.600 We all know this. But I also think that, you know, one of the things that I've been on the record that really disgusts me is the fawning over the president, which is why I appreciate some of the things that I've been seeing from you lately.

00:34:06.420 When you've been going after Trump, you can agree with him all day. I don't care about that.

00:34:10.360 Megan, if you agree, you agree. If you disagree, you disagree. But it's the fawning.

00:34:13.520 I literally, when I appeared on Real Time with Bill Maher, I literally said, if you bring in these folks, if you're bringing him a cup of coffee, you have to pause and talk about how wonderful and marvelous he is.

00:34:25.960 And he does everything right. And with the great leadership, it's like, wait a minute now, just do your damn job. 1.00

00:34:30.540 The one person that has been that has represented that kind of veneer, that kind of ambiance and persona about himself is Marco Rubio. 0.98

00:34:38.380 Ain't about that. He's about doing the job, whatever the job calls for him to do.

00:34:42.260 I don't get that impression from J.D., and I think the reason why that's relevant is because when you look come 2028, yeah, it might require some kind of endorsement from Trump to some degree, but there's tens of millions of people that are against Trump.

00:34:57.400 And when you see somebody who ain't him, that aspires to be Trump-like, it could end up counting against them.

00:35:04.000 I don't think that's something Marco Rubio has to worry about, and I certainly don't believe that we'll be in a position to question his qualifications.

00:35:10.660 If he is the GOP nominee for the presidency of the United States of America, particularly in a country where we have millions upon millions of people who are not who weren't born here or who even were born here, but come from Latino ancestry and things of that nature.

00:35:26.080 The fact that he's bilingual, that his ancestors are Cuban, that he's as smart as a whip, that he is as accomplished and knows where the bodies lie, per se, because of the positions that he's held within our government, I think goes a long way towards making him a far more formidable candidate than J.D. Vance, in my humble estimation.

00:35:45.080 i that's all very interesting and i do i completely agree with you on the weird fawning

00:35:50.980 comments non-stop like at the cabinet meetings and like even like the press conferences when

00:35:55.460 the fbi announced that they had captured the pipe bomber it's like oh my god all right it's

00:35:59.940 it's very pravda-esque just stop we don't do that here in america just get down to business

00:36:04.260 we get it you're trying to like pander to the boss do it on your own time right we don't we

00:36:09.040 have business to take this is like when people come at you they'll say something about me i was

00:36:12.400 It's like, wait a minute now.

00:36:14.660 She feels the way she feels.

00:36:16.520 She's attacking the issues.

00:36:18.000 Now, if you agree with her, agree with her.

00:36:19.480 If you disagree with her, disagree with her. 0.63

00:36:21.040 But don't tell me she's kissing anybody's behind. 0.99

00:36:23.340 That ain't the Megyn Kelly I see. 0.96

00:36:25.100 Oh, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. 1.00

00:36:26.740 She don't play that game. 1.00

00:36:28.080 So just stop that nonsense.

00:36:29.400 I think there are a lot of people who would love it if I kissed a lot more.

00:36:32.840 But I'm not built like that.

00:36:34.740 Neither am I.

00:36:35.100 I admire the president, and I remain a supporter. 0.89

00:36:37.480 I just, I'm very against the war.

00:36:39.880 So there's no way I can have a relationship.

00:36:41.540 I haven't been a supporter of him.

00:36:44.300 You can't have a direct relationship, an honest relationship with your audience unless you tell them how you actually feel.

00:36:48.460 That's true. Totally true. Totally true. And I'm not I'm not satisfied.

00:36:51.660 I don't like the. Listen, I interviewed Leon Panetta, former chief white office chief of staff, former CIA director, former secretary of defense.

00:36:58.640 I interviewed him yesterday. And one of the things that he made he made a point of.

00:37:02.740 And you need to know this, not that you don't. You probably do.

00:37:05.860 But just in case you didn't see the interview yesterday, he said, hey, Trump was right to attack Iran.

00:37:12.820 This is a Democrat now that served under two presidents in Clinton and Obama. 0.79

00:37:17.080 And he said he was right to attack him. He said, but there seems to be no plan.

00:37:22.300 There seems to be no way out. He said, I'm fearful of an endless war that we walked into this unprepared.

00:37:30.240 That was his issue. My point was, thank God somebody said it, because I said, am I confused that I hear wrong?

00:37:37.520 I saw numerous administrations saying that Iran needed to be dealt with, that they've been killing American citizens and they've been, you know, 0.95

00:37:43.880 the number one sponsor of terrorism in this world and all of this other stuff for the last several decades that we needed to deal with them. 0.98

00:37:51.020 So this president goes out and tries to deal with them. And now we're complaining.

00:37:55.220 Leon Panetta's position was different he was saying no I'm not complaining about the initial attack

00:38:00.560 what I'm complaining about is the clear lack of preparation that obviously is in play because we

00:38:08.020 don't seem to know what to do with ourselves and we didn't seem to be prepared for the strait of 1.00

00:38:13.000 amuse to be you know compromised by the Iranians and stuff like that he was pointing out all of 1.00

00:38:17.940 those things and I said okay that's more like it that's exactly why people should have a problem

00:38:21.820 with it so i get where you're coming from with that yeah the um it maybe i'd feel differently 0.93

00:38:27.920 if we had just gone and bombed the ayatollah and moved out although that's fraught with peril too

00:38:31.660 just given the way things are first of all he he had issued the fatwa saying we're not actually 0.73

00:38:36.400 going to do a nuke because he knew the position that would put iran in now we appear to have more

00:38:41.020 radical leadership in there uh and on top of that we killed the leader of shiite islam on during

00:38:47.080 ramadan like i've just been you know for 25 years covering these wars and they have ongoing

00:38:51.660 controversies. It'll result in domestic terror. Americans will get killed as a result of this

00:38:56.120 because we create jihadis and more extremists. And fighting these insurgencies, which is what 0.58

00:39:01.140 these wars turn into, has proven very, very tricky for American forces. You know, it's like General

00:39:06.080 Daniel McChrystal said at the beginning, he said, if you like, you know, those who are cheering the

00:39:10.280 war, I hope you enjoy this phase of the bombs dropping because this is the best phase of war

00:39:15.620 where our guys are stellar out there. They have precision accuracy. For the most part, there was

00:39:21.160 a serious serious misstep with the bombing of that girl school but he's saying it goes downhill

00:39:26.500 from here because getting out of wars is a lot trickier than starting to me here's where the

00:39:31.220 right has to make you have to make a decision that would mean in some people's eyes that more

00:39:38.520 diplomacy is the order of the day because you don't want to engage in regime change which

00:39:43.940 obviously this could end up leading to because if you killed the leader but his son is the successor

00:39:50.320 Well, that that hostility is not going to dissipate. If anything, it's going to grow and it's going to make more enemies for the United States. Right. So what's the answer? When you've had others who tried to engage in diplomacy, that was considered weakness.

00:40:05.060 So now we got a decision to make. Is diplomacy the order of the day or do we want to send troops and handle our business so we don't have to worry about them having the nuclear weapon?

00:40:15.680 Because when Leon Panetta came on my show yesterday, he said, quote, I have seen the intelligence.

00:40:21.020 They would have had a nuclear weapon in a month.

00:40:24.840 He has not seen the intelligence. That's a fucking lie. 1.00

00:40:27.520 That's what he said. 1.00

00:40:28.140 We saw intelligence years ago, the current ODNI.

00:40:31.860 OK, he said it, but the current ODNI, the woman who oversees all of the intelligence agencies, briefed Congress before we did all this and said there is no intelligence that Iran is anywhere close to getting the nuclear bomb.

00:40:42.920 Well, he was saying that to support the president.

00:40:44.660 He was saying that to support the president.

00:40:46.060 But here's what.

00:40:46.500 I agree.

00:40:47.200 You can say I'll edit you one, but it's not true.

00:40:49.380 Help me out here, Megan.

00:40:49.900 Help me out here.

00:40:50.520 Let me ask you, because I don't know.

00:40:52.140 I don't know.

00:40:52.940 I mean, I'm new to this, Megan.

00:40:54.020 I'm new to this.

00:40:54.640 OK, I'm a baby.

00:40:55.220 I'm taking baby steps.

00:40:56.140 I'm new to this.

00:40:56.840 I need your help.

00:40:57.740 Here's the deal.

00:40:59.240 What am I supposed to believe if you're the former chief of staff of the White House, a former defense secretary, and a former director for the CIA?

00:41:10.260 Is it not possible, even though you ain't supposed to have access to it, that somehow, someway you might have seen things?

00:41:16.820 He was stripped of all his access to it.

00:41:19.140 But Trump, one of the first things Trump did when he took office was to strip all people, including Panetta, of their security clearances so they could no longer have access to anything that you and I can't have access to.

00:41:29.140 But you've been a reporter for years.

00:41:30.340 You've been an exceptional reporter for years.

00:41:31.940 I've been in the business for many years on the sports side, right?

00:41:35.700 We've made a career of getting access to stuff we ain't supposed to have access to, Megan.

00:41:41.240 I know you have.

00:41:42.620 I know you have.

00:41:43.420 Why would Tulsi Gabbard, who unquestionably has access to all of it, all of it, brief in her official role, brief Congress just weeks before we started this war by saying there is no intelligence that Iran is close to getting the nuclear bomb?

00:42:00.340 And it wasn't just them.

00:42:01.780 International authorities, no intercontinental ballistic missiles for at least a decade.

00:42:06.020 I mean, I could go down the list.

00:42:07.120 Don't confuse it.

00:42:07.820 I'm not pretending.

00:42:08.980 Who said I had a feeling.

00:42:10.040 I'm not pretending to know.

00:42:11.460 I'm saying to you.

00:42:12.760 I'm saying to you, us being in the business, we've made a career by getting access to stuff that the average person doesn't get access to.

00:42:22.140 What I'm saying to you—

00:42:23.500 But I'm trying to see your theory through.

00:42:25.300 So Leon Panetta, even though he's been out of office, public office, for a decade plus, he had access to super secret information that they were close to getting a bomb that neither the president nor Tulsi Gabbard, the current director of national intelligence, had access to.

00:42:38.280 No, I'm not saying—no, he never implied that.

00:42:40.640 What I'm saying to you is this.

00:42:41.800 He's going off of old info.

00:42:43.500 Okay, that's fine.

00:42:44.540 And I'm saying to you, in my mind, here's what I was thinking.

00:42:48.060 That's all.

00:42:49.180 It's possible that when you've been in government for spending decades the way that he has been,

00:42:56.100 these same people that are looking in front of your face saying,

00:42:58.700 we want nothing to do with you.

00:42:59.740 They don't talk to you. 0.93

00:43:00.680 We ain't giving you access to a damn thing. 1.00

00:43:02.480 We ain't giving you access to shit. 0.99

00:43:04.300 Might be the one come asking him his opinion about something. 0.99

00:43:06.980 Here, take a look at this.

00:43:07.840 What do you think?

00:43:08.640 I'm saying to you, it happens.

00:43:10.020 That's all I'm saying.

00:43:10.800 i don't know if it happened here i don't know what truth it is i'm just saying it's plausible 0.67

00:43:14.640 it's possible it didn't unless tulsi gabbard is a complete liar which she's not okay uh she's not

00:43:20.940 she would not have misled the president about something this serious i mean absolutely not so 0.62

00:43:25.340 look it's i i see your point but the other problem with liana panetta is in the same way

00:43:32.080 a surgeon wants to cut and a hammer wants to hit somebody in his role of course is going to say i'm

00:43:39.100 in favor of this? Are they, are they just, that's exactly what somebody who's held the roles that

00:43:44.040 Leon Panetta has held would say like, yes, okay, great. We're going to do that. Ask a military

00:43:48.620 general. Most of them say like, yeah, we did the right thing. It's, there's a different segment of

00:43:53.360 the populace that spends its time working with veterans, interviewing veterans, like having

00:43:59.680 covered those two wars night and day, nonstop, that hears from a different class of military

00:44:05.800 expert. And those are the guys who wanted Trump elected. Those are the guys who thought they had

00:44:10.580 somebody who understood them in Pete's role, Pete Hegseth's role, who are very angry. So many of

00:44:15.760 them very angry about this and feel a betrayal on a very deep level because they were promised

00:44:20.180 no more Middle East wars, not just no more war, no more wars in the Middle East. It'd be a 0.87

00:44:26.020 distraction. It'd be incredibly expensive. Trump said all of that. And yes, he was saying Iran can't

00:44:31.440 have a nuclear weapon, which is why people gave him a lot of birth when he bombed them in June 0.92

00:44:36.020 and then told us the facilities were obliterated and we supported him. And then he launched a war 0.71

00:44:40.960 anyway. Right. So in other words, when he bombed their nuclear sites last June, right? And he said

00:44:47.900 we obliterated them and it was over. Your position is that it was supposed to be done. No further

00:44:54.080 action was supposed to be necessary. You've lied to us. Is that what you're saying about President

00:44:59.560 trump at that point i didn't sense a lie i was like okay this is risky about now that's what

00:45:04.540 you're feeling like you were lied to i mean i i don't know if he lied or if he just went back on

00:45:09.820 a campaign promise but it was an extremely important campaign promise extremely and so

00:45:14.980 like this is not one of those like oh you know i'll i'll build the wall but he doesn't build

00:45:19.920 the full wall he builds like portions of the wall and other portions of it are electronic and you're

00:45:24.560 like, I don't love that, but I can live with it. You know, the border is closed. This one's

00:45:29.320 really fundamental to why many of us voted for him. It was extremely important that he not do

00:45:35.580 this. And I mean, look, I'm not, I'm not going to have to go fight in a war, but I do have three

00:45:39.220 kids, including two boys. And the draft has now just been made easier than ever because they're

00:45:45.060 doing automatic registrations for it now, starting in December. Anyway, my point is simply, it's,

00:45:50.520 It's personal, and the vets I've talked to are very against it, guys who have actually lost limbs, really lost blood and treasure, and he barely even tried to explain it to us, Stephen A., barely even did us the respect of telling us why we were doing it.

00:46:03.900 I know a few vets myself, and they vibe with your thinking in terms of where we are now, but they also felt that based on the rhetoric they were talking about, how being a month away from Iran having a nuclear weapon, that it was necessary because of Iran's history.

00:46:20.520 So they were thinking is something needed to be done because Iran needs to be dealt with because they're sponsoring terrorists, terrorism and all of this other stuff. 0.89

00:46:29.540 I'm trying to build a nuclear weapon.

00:46:31.940 My attitude is, OK, if you on Trump's side and Trump is saying, essentially, we had to stop this from happening, happening, it was necessary.

00:46:41.160 Essentially, y'all are saying you don't believe him.

00:46:43.620 The left is saying we've never believed any damn thing about him.

00:46:46.260 So you're falling in line.

00:46:48.560 I don't believe you're falling in line.

00:46:50.520 what the left has been saying about his character or character flaws for quite a long time i mean

00:46:56.200 all presidents lie i agree yeah i mean he lies joe biden lied at every turn barack obama lied

00:47:02.420 in a way that cost people millions of people their health care and their lives in some cases

00:47:06.360 they all lie trump's not like this reporter here has never suggested otherwise i've said

00:47:11.300 many times prior to the iran war that trump does not have an adult relationship with the truth

00:47:16.300 many many times you can google it and that's how i don't have to google it he's fast and loose with

00:47:22.020 it we saw the other day when he tried to claim that that was him as a doctor in that meme and 0.85

00:47:26.700 not jesus it was such a fucking lie so obvious he wouldn't stand by the mean okay take it down 0.85

00:47:32.360 and just say you're sorry or don't say you're sorry take it down but don't try to gaslight us 1.00

00:47:35.680 we can see so it's just look there are some of us who will call trump out on his bullshit it 0.91

00:47:40.860 doesn't make me not a trump supporter i still support him i want him to succeed i want him to 0.96

00:47:44.740 get back to the beautiful agenda that i voted for then that still needs fulfilling and not to be

00:47:49.660 distracted by iran which no one cares about the strait of hormuz over here but but in the same

00:47:55.000 breath and i'm not saying this towards you because i've seen you call him out but far too many people

00:48:00.620 who have supported him it's like you know even when they're going down having to admit that he's

00:48:07.280 lied about something or he's disappointed them i'm like wait a minute he's doing far more than

00:48:11.860 that because he's not prioritizing like for example when they had to when you had to shut

00:48:15.760 down the partial shut down you go a month without doling out two billion dollars you understand in

00:48:23.040 in in salaries and stuff like that tsa work and stuff like that well you know what megan when you

00:48:28.800 come up with 800 million to 2 billion a day for a war that even folks on the right yeah for the war

00:48:34.520 be happening that's problematic so it's one thing it's one thing all right you negotiated with the 0.95

00:48:39.880 democrats damn it you're trying to get what you want they're trying to get what you want you're 0.72

00:48:43.940 not folding you're not bending you're not budging and the american public has to suffer because of 0.99

00:48:48.760 it but that has happened in the past it's unfortunate it shouldn't happen we should

00:48:52.080 never want it to but it has happened but when you turn around in the same breath literally while that

00:48:57.260 is happening and you're doling out 800 million to 2 billion a day for a war that is highly suspect

00:49:03.200 and questionable even in the eyes of his supporters that is where things become fragmented

00:49:08.660 that's when things start falling apart at the seams because even those supporters are like no

00:49:14.600 i can't vibe with this anymore that's where the republican party is right now and that's why i

00:49:20.240 think somebody like marco rubio got a far better shot than somebody like jd vance who i consider

00:49:25.940 to be a trump wannabe and ain't gonna cut it that's why i say what i say i think rubio's his

00:49:32.660 problem will be, A, J.D. Vance if he wants it, and B, the people who are skeptical of Israel now

00:49:40.840 in the Republican Party who think he's too pro. You know, he's taken too many donations from

00:49:46.760 AIPAC. He's too beholden to what's best for Israel as opposed to what's—so he'll be up against that

00:49:52.500 in a way that J.D. Vance is not. Then there'll be the more neocon faction of the Republican Party

00:49:56.280 that doesn't like J.D. And really, Trump will have to make a decision about whether he's going to

00:50:01.620 endorse anyone you know like does he i'm just hoping he's a kingmaker or does he let i'm just

00:50:06.900 hoping either one of them has somebody formidable on the left to go up against them that's what i'm

00:50:11.620 hopeful for because i don't see it right now yes i well we have all that fun to look forward to

00:50:17.700 starting november 5th or whatever the day is after the primaries uh after the midterms steven a a

00:50:22.940 pleasure as always same here thanks for coming on of course no problem all right we're back now with

00:50:27.860 the full Markle story right after this break.

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00:52:39.380 Yeah. Megan's doing what she does best, making everything about herself. Everything. Everything

00:52:44.520 relates to her. But back to me. Enough about me. What do you think of me? While speaking to youth

00:52:50.460 at a mental health organization, she complained about her struggles.

00:52:56.600 For now 10 years, every day for 10 years, I had been bullied and attacked.

00:53:01.480 And I was the most trolled person in the entire world. Man, whoa, whoa. And I'm still here.

00:53:06.460 i can't honestly i just can't get over yourself there's more here's the kind of wisdom markle

00:53:14.460 offered on mental health in the form of a quote she claims to look at every single day and a

00:53:21.920 friend of mine gave me a little little bag that had a quote on it and i look at it every single

00:53:28.680 day and i would share it with you because sometimes i can imagine as you talk about

00:53:32.660 depression or anxiety or a willingness or lack of appetite to even want to get out of bed or keep

00:53:40.960 going, that this is the quote that it says, and I think it's important that you remember because I

00:53:45.900 try to as well. My wish for you is that you continue, continue to be who and how you are,

00:53:54.320 to astonish a mean world with your acts of kindness, and to allow humor to lighten the

00:54:01.940 burden of your tender heart. And that's my wish for all of you as well. And you can do it. You

00:54:08.160 can do it together. I'm not going to say it's easy. It will personally tell you it is not easy,

00:54:13.480 but you can do it. Okay. Her tender heart. Honestly, she's the meanest person to cross

00:54:21.160 the threshold at Buckingham Palace in a couple hundred years. And that's saying something.

00:54:26.080 There's no tender heart.

00:54:27.940 Her father was near death and she ignored him and kept him away from her wedding.

00:54:35.060 And he still hasn't met his grandchildren.

00:54:38.380 So I don't want to be lectured to about her tender heart.

00:54:41.780 It's not in there.

00:54:43.180 It's a heart of stone.

00:54:44.160 She separated her husband from his entire family, from his cancer-stricken grandmother, the queen, from his cancer-stricken father, now the king.

00:54:55.360 Uh, she has managed to remove him from all that made him sound and supported for the entirety of

00:55:05.560 his life to a new country that has absolutely no use for him. None, none whatsoever. We don't care

00:55:10.360 about royalty over here. They're mildly interesting. We look at their funny outfits,

00:55:14.540 you know, like we care about them because we care about history. We don't care about them. Like we're

00:55:18.020 going to get down on a knee and fawn over them the way that British, British people, some faction of

00:55:22.660 them would. So he's unplugged the one thing that made him electric. And he's stuck on some Montecito

00:55:29.360 ranch trying to figure out how to market another polo documentary that no one wants to see. 1.00

00:55:35.900 He is rich and out of touch and beyond privileged, just like his rich bitch wife, 0.99

00:55:43.700 who wants only for us to feel sorry for her and for them. I mean, like the nonsense about what 1.00

00:55:50.640 she's pulling over there is ridiculous. And at one point she, she said to them, okay, that industry, 0.65

00:55:55.640 that billion dollar industry, she's talking about the press that is completely anchored and

00:55:59.300 predicated on cruelty to get clicks. That's not going to change. So you have to be stronger than

00:56:04.420 that. Okay. First of all, the answer, when you see somebody who is suffering with depression

00:56:09.560 or anxiety is not to just say, be stronger. And as you guys know, I'm, I'm tough. I'm pretty tough

00:56:14.980 when it comes to these things. I wouldn't look at a suffering person and just say, be stronger.

00:56:19.220 That's not how it works. Nor, again, is their problem the mean, mean press. She's working out her own shit on a bunch of stressed out young people. This is a youth organization for mental health. And she's got to work out her issues with the Daily Mail on them.

00:56:39.320 She's been suing them left and right in the courts. 0.54

00:56:42.200 Every time she gets in front of a camera, she raises this because she wants us to know 1.00

00:56:45.760 she was allegedly the most trolled person in the world in 2019. 1.00

00:56:49.000 Well, you know what, bitch? 1.00

00:56:49.780 I might have been the most trolled person in 2018. 1.00

00:56:52.340 I'm fine.

00:56:53.920 Like, stop.

00:56:55.140 There are a lot of us who go through the disgusting media washing machine that whips you around

00:57:02.220 and pulls you and twists you and makes you feel disoriented because they say so many

00:57:06.820 negative things about you.

00:57:08.320 Most of us take it like a man or a woman and kind of move on with our lives.

00:57:12.640 Instead of reminding everybody at every turn, most trolled person, male or female.

00:57:18.600 It's like, think of, think of like the bad, Michael Jackson, everybody thinks he's a pedophile.

00:57:24.120 He's not around to defend himself anymore.

00:57:25.820 But like, I'm going to guess that was worse trolling than you didn't get along with Kate.

00:57:32.120 Like, who does she think she's kidding?

00:57:34.560 It's like, and the complete denial of the fact that she made that bed, she made that bed.

00:57:42.400 I went back and just reminded myself of some of the bullying allegations against her.

00:57:47.600 The reporting from Valentine Lowe, who was like the biographer of hers, is really telling.

00:57:53.120 She threatened to sue him.

00:57:54.260 Her people threatened to sue him.

00:57:55.400 They never filed suit.

00:57:56.340 Guess why?

00:57:57.640 Guess why?

00:57:59.200 Don't you think? 1.00

00:57:59.720 She's very litigious. 0.94

00:58:01.440 Don't you think she would have filed suit? 0.94

00:58:02.640 if Valentine Lowe had been this liar

00:58:05.920 who was just smearing her

00:58:06.920 with absolutely no basis?

00:58:08.580 What about our friend Dan Wooden?

00:58:10.220 Where's the lawsuit against him?

00:58:11.620 He's blown the lid off

00:58:12.700 of multiple Meghan Markle scandals 0.98

00:58:14.420 and what a bully she is 1.00

00:58:16.500 and how nasty she was to Princess Kate, 1.00

00:58:19.180 how she made Kate cry. 0.99

00:58:21.220 She denied it.

00:58:23.040 Here's a couple.

00:58:24.800 Her personal assistant, Meghan's, 0.99

00:58:27.020 left when she first got,

00:58:29.320 like joined the royal family 0.95

00:58:31.020 six months after the royal wedding quit.

00:58:34.440 A week later, the assistant was named

00:58:36.300 in another paper as Melissa Tuobti. 0.99

00:58:40.860 Meghan put a lot of demands on her 0.66

00:58:42.380 and it ended up with this gal, Melissa, in tears,

00:58:45.500 a source told him.

00:58:46.960 She was not the first member of staff to leave,

00:58:48.720 but before her, there was another PA, personal assistant,

00:58:52.400 a young woman already employed by the palace.

00:58:54.640 She did not stay long after Meghan arrived. 0.90

00:58:56.640 The duchess could be sharp

00:58:57.660 with those she felt were letting her down.

00:58:59.640 One former staff member said,

00:59:00.820 I had unpleasant experiences with her. I would definitely say humiliated. Another source claimed

00:59:06.120 that Samantha Cohen, who was beloved within the palace, had done many roles, including for the

00:59:10.040 queen. She could solve anything. She could plan anything. So they gave her their most competent

00:59:14.800 employee and she became the couple's private secretary. She got bullied by Meghan Markle. 1.00

00:59:21.660 They treated her terribly, he reports. This is a quote. Nothing was ever good enough. It was,

00:59:26.420 she doesn't understand. She's failing. In fact, the source said Cohen was a saint and the best

00:59:31.360 organizer of royal tours that they had known. There's more from Valentine Lowe's book.

00:59:37.540 A senior aide discreetly raised with the couple, the difficulties caused by Meghan's treatment

00:59:42.300 of staff. This was in late 2017 after the engagement. She didn't even wait until the

00:59:47.580 wedding was secure to start bullying everybody around her. She was said to have replied,

00:59:51.080 it's not my job to coddle people. Okay. I'm not a coddler either, but I work in media. You you're

00:59:57.900 trying to join the Royal family. You're going to have to be on eggshells. Everyone knows that

01:00:03.380 you can't run around and say, it's not my job to coddle people. I'm an American. I'm going to do

01:00:08.260 it my way. That makes people dislike you sister. And you can't then run to the media and say, Oh,

01:00:13.440 most, most trolled person. You brought it upon yourself and person after person within the Royal

01:00:19.380 family and the household tried to warn you this would happen because the people you're bullying

01:00:25.440 have these things called mouths and sources of their own who are dying to hear from them for

01:00:30.760 any royal tidbit. And you assumed the risk that they wouldn't say anything about you. But guess

01:00:36.540 what? They did. And now we all know. Megan spoke particularly harshly at a meeting to a young

01:00:42.840 female member of the team in front of her colleagues. After Megan had pulled to shreds

01:00:47.120 a plan this person had drawn up.

01:00:49.200 The woman told Megan that it was going to be hard

01:00:51.100 to implement a new plan.

01:00:52.160 Don't worry, Megan told her.

01:00:53.240 If there was literally anyone else I could ask to do this,

01:00:55.940 I'd be asking them instead of you. 0.99

01:00:58.220 Later, Prince William, who had heard she was a bitch, 1.00

01:01:01.180 that's my term, came to find the woman she had bullied. 0.99

01:01:04.220 I hope you're okay, he told her.

01:01:05.500 You're doing a really good job.

01:01:06.920 She promptly burst into tears.

01:01:08.680 This woman trying to keep it together,

01:01:10.000 but any sign of empathy,

01:01:11.980 which Prince William was the only one to show her,

01:01:14.500 brought her to tears.

01:01:15.380 Haven't you been there?

01:01:16.160 with somebody. It's one thing for you to feel sorry for you when somebody else feels sorry for

01:01:20.260 you. That's the thing that pushes you over the edge on the tears. Once when Megan felt she had

01:01:24.380 been let down yet again, everyone disappoints Megan over an issue that was worrying her.

01:01:29.820 She rang repeatedly when the staffer was out for dinner on a Friday night. Every 10 minutes I had

01:01:34.260 to go outside to be screamed at by her and Harry says this employee. It was, I can't believe you've

01:01:39.760 done this. You've let me down. What were you thinking? It went on for hours. Then this guy,

01:01:46.480 Jason Knopf, who was originally made like the press representative for all four of them,

01:01:51.280 the fab four back when they were getting along and the press was saying nothing but great things

01:01:55.400 about her. He wrote an email in October of, I can't figure out the year here, to his immediate

01:02:02.260 boss, Simon Case, who worked for Prince William saying he had spoken to the head of HR for the

01:02:07.680 palace about, quote, some very serious problems concerning Meghan's behavior, writing, quote,

01:02:12.940 I'm very concerned that the duchess was able to bully two PAs out of the household in the past

01:02:17.320 year. The duchess seems intent on always having someone in her sights. She is bullying, name

01:02:23.620 withheld, and seeking to undermine her confidence. We've had report after report from people who have

01:02:29.460 witnessed unacceptable behavior toward X, despite the universal views from her colleagues that she

01:02:35.020 is a leading talent within the household who's delivering first rate work work. As one source

01:02:40.360 said, there were a lot of broken people, young women who were broken by their behavior. She 1.00

01:02:45.800 brought Harry down with her. He sees himself as the protector. Now he's going to like avenge his

01:02:49.780 mother's death by being tough on anybody who's mean to Megan. So he's turned into an absolute

01:02:54.080 nightmare too. One member of the staff said, um, they said was quote, completely destroyed by this

01:03:00.140 pair. She regularly belittled people, reported the Daily Mail. They, again, here in an article

01:03:07.020 citing Chief of Staff Josh Kettler, he had left his role after only three months. And the Daily

01:03:14.220 Mail source, citing a source who was actually in the Hollywood Reporter, so it's a report on a 0.98

01:03:20.220 report, quote, everyone is terrified of Meghan. She belittles people. She doesn't take advice. 1.00

01:03:25.160 They're both poor decision makers. They change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very

01:03:29.120 charming person, no airs, but he's very much an enabler. And she is just terrible. Another source,

01:03:34.560 she's absolutely relentless. She marches around like a dictator in high heels, fuming and barking 1.00

01:03:39.940 orders. I've watched her reduce grown men to tears. Two sources say a colleague with ties 1.00

01:03:48.460 to archetypes, you know, that her ridiculous Spotify podcast all about women and empowering 0.64

01:03:52.660 women took a leave of absence after working on three episodes and then left Gimlet, the producer 0.60

01:03:59.040 of the podcast series altogether.

01:04:01.020 Several others described taking extended breaks

01:04:03.040 from work to escape scrutiny,

01:04:04.800 exiting their job altogether,

01:04:05.980 or undergoing long-term therapy after working with her. 0.92

01:04:10.620 Quote, I think if Megan acknowledged her own shortcomings

01:04:13.380 or personal contributions to situations

01:04:15.020 rather than staying trapped in a victim narrative,

01:04:17.660 her perception might be better.

01:04:21.440 Correct.

01:04:22.840 She is trapped in a victim narrative.

01:04:25.720 This is the soundbite I referenced earlier in the show.

01:04:29.040 where she went on one of these world tours with Harry

01:04:31.460 shortly after they were married.

01:04:34.100 And the ITV guy was like, how's it going?

01:04:38.320 And this is how she handled it.

01:04:40.340 Yeah, well, I guess, and also thank you for asking

01:04:42.260 because not many people have asked if I'm okay. 0.99

01:04:45.580 Because we don't actually give a shit. 0.99

01:04:47.820 You have more privilege than anyone else on earth, 0.99

01:04:50.380 like literally except for about five people.

01:04:52.940 We assume that things are great.

01:04:55.420 And if they're not great,

01:04:56.380 it's between you and your therapist.

01:04:58.160 It's not for you to complain to the press about.

01:05:00.380 None.

01:05:01.200 Stop.

01:05:02.500 Honestly.

01:05:02.980 And Harry is just as bad with that stuff I was quoting to you earlier.

01:05:07.840 His mental health messaging.

01:05:09.640 You should not be taking mental health advice from Prince Harry or from her.

01:05:14.800 She was suicidal just a couple years ago.

01:05:17.000 He is describing himself, as I pointed out to you moments ago, as in the fetal position.

01:05:21.800 he said like recently in the fetal position and saying now there's a lot, a lot in the world

01:05:28.840 leaving us feeling anxious, stressed, helpless, powerless, and completely overwhelmed. Then he

01:05:34.840 goes on, loss is disorienting at any age. Grief does not disappear because we ignore it. Well,

01:05:41.440 actually ignoring it may not be such a bad idea to be honest, Harry. Rumination is what really

01:05:45.660 causes ongoing depression, going over your problems nonstop over and over and over again.

01:05:51.500 But anyway, experiencing that as a kid while in a goldfish bowl under constant surveillance,

01:05:56.880 yes, that will have its challenges.

01:05:58.460 And without purpose, it can break you.

01:06:00.840 There have been many times when I have felt overwhelmed, where I felt lost, betrayed,

01:06:06.060 or completely powerless.

01:06:08.300 Times when the pressure externally and internally felt constant.

01:06:12.980 You grew up in a palace, multiple palaces, Buckingham Palace, Kensington Palace.

01:06:18.600 I'm missing some of the palaces.

01:06:20.640 You were at your every need was taken care of times 20.

01:06:24.100 There was, I was just talking with somebody about this.

01:06:27.660 Catherine Schwarzenegger, who's married to Chris Pratt.

01:06:30.880 You remember Jack Carr was here yesterday.

01:06:33.440 He's great.

01:06:34.440 And Chris Pratt is starring in his series.

01:06:36.080 So then I was like doing a deep dive on Chris Pratt online.

01:06:39.520 He's married to Catherine Schwarzenegger.

01:06:40.800 She started a podcast.

01:06:42.080 She had her dad on the podcast, Arnold.

01:06:44.780 And she said something like, well, you were so good.

01:06:46.720 You made sure that we grew up normal.

01:06:49.160 Arnold Schwarzenegger was like, hold on, you did not grow up normal.

01:06:53.820 And she's like, oh, well, no, I just mean he was like, no, no, you did not grow up normal.

01:06:59.280 Now, that's a good father.

01:07:01.020 Not only was their dad Arnold Schwarzenegger, their mother's Maria Shriver.

01:07:04.160 She's a Kennedy.

01:07:05.120 You can do your best to raise normal kids while making sure they know that they are not normal.

01:07:10.520 They have had an enormous privilege handed to them at every turn.

01:07:13.660 They have vacation places that nobody ever vacations.

01:07:15.820 They travel in ways and via means and nobody gets to.

01:07:19.420 Their homes are multi, multi-millionaire, million dollar.

01:07:22.440 They have connections to industries of enormous power.

01:07:26.800 They have restaurant reservations nobody has.

01:07:29.240 People smile at them greater and are nicer to them

01:07:31.720 and tend to their every whim in a way that doesn't happen

01:07:34.280 for quote unquote normal people.

01:07:35.820 It's like good for him.

01:07:37.840 Good for Arnold Schwarzenegger.

01:07:40.640 Someone needed to have that conversation with Prince Harry.

01:07:43.520 Desperately needed to have that conversation.

01:07:44.740 Like I'm overwhelmed, I'm betrayed in the grief and it doesn't go like, would you just

01:07:49.720 stop?

01:07:50.940 You have had everything handed to you. 1.00

01:07:54.560 Even when you left the Royal family, your stupid Spotify deal and your Netflix deal 1.00

01:08:01.300 worth reportedly $150 million together was handed to you. 1.00

01:08:05.040 And the way you co-earned it was to just dish on your loving family in a Netflix series

01:08:12.680 through the most negative lens and your country, which you called racist, along with your race

01:08:18.300 obsessed wife. So, by the way, he was also part of that Oprah interview where they suggested the

01:08:25.520 royal family was full of a bunch of racists, some raging racists, while his own grandfather was

01:08:31.140 dying in the hospital. Remember, they had to run to the press within 24 hours after. People were 0.72

01:08:35.880 like, was it the queen? Was it Prince Philip who said this thing about, oh, my God, we're concerned

01:08:39.920 about how dark your baby is, who said it? 0.92

01:08:43.080 And how she and Oprah played that up and he allowed it.

01:08:46.160 And then finally they had to put out a statement saying,

01:08:48.100 okay, it wasn't the queen or Prince Philip.

01:08:49.620 Oh, great, okay, thanks.

01:08:51.120 So we can remove that stressor from your dying granddad

01:08:53.880 and her with the treatment of her dad.

01:08:55.620 I'm just sick of it, I'm sick of it. 0.98

01:08:57.100 No one feels fucking sorry for you. 0.98

01:08:58.780 No one, stop. 0.94

01:09:01.500 A lot of us have had massive loss in our lives

01:09:03.700 and have learned to move on.

01:09:05.120 A lot of us have been the subject

01:09:06.660 of absolutely vicious press coverage

01:09:09.680 and have learned to move on.

01:09:11.680 We don't obsess and speak to a bunch of suffering children

01:09:15.880 and try to make it about ourselves.

01:09:18.720 Their two minutes are up.

01:09:21.180 They're up.

01:09:21.800 And again, no mental health clinic 0.99

01:09:24.600 should be having these two lunatics, 1.00

01:09:27.340 narcissistic lunatics there to speak to anybody 1.00

01:09:32.100 about how to deal with mental health. 1.00

01:09:33.760 Okay, that's what I wanted to say about Meghan Markle.

01:09:37.440 I'm really glad I got that off my chest.

01:09:40.300 Got that off my chest.

01:09:42.460 I want to bring in our panel now.

01:09:44.520 It's Britt and Witt time.

01:09:45.520 Britt Mayer, she's founder of Rooted Wings

01:09:47.180 and host of the Britt Mayer Show.

01:09:49.840 And Will Witt, it's really Britt and Will,

01:09:52.160 but we like Britt and Witt rhymes.

01:09:54.360 And Will Witt, who's author of Do Not Comply.

01:09:57.300 Team, welcome back.

01:09:59.140 Thoughts, Britt, on the Duchess of Duplicity 0.97

01:10:02.400 lecturing these kids on how bad she has had it?

01:10:06.660 I'll tell you what, Megan.

01:10:07.520 And I'm like, if I was not awake, I don't even eat my coffee after all of that.

01:10:12.420 I am wide awake now.

01:10:16.200 Oh.

01:10:16.940 It's infuriating.

01:10:18.220 I mean, it is. 0.97

01:10:19.360 We know she's just so duplicitous and fake. 0.97

01:10:22.000 And I think that's why we're seeing her tank, you know, her public opinion.

01:10:25.180 No one that I know is still even really talking about her.

01:10:27.960 If she ever had her moments of fame, they were long gone. 0.90

01:10:30.540 But it's pathetic to see her at a table trying to convince you that she feels a certain way 0.61

01:10:36.880 she can identify. It just comes off so fake. Yeah. I'm with you and I'm wide awake. So thank 0.99

01:10:44.560 you for the intro. I don't need my coffee now. And Will, what's with him? Like most men try to

01:10:51.880 be men and like, it doesn't mean you can never show any softness whatsoever, but every time he

01:10:56.860 speaks, it's either a complaint about how his security got taken away and he doesn't want to

01:11:01.100 have to go to the UK anymore because meanwhile, he's got $150 million plus. He can pay for his

01:11:05.580 own security was not good enough for him, or he's bitching about his mental health,

01:11:09.240 fetal position, overwhelmed, like nonstop without realizing how that sounds coming from him.

01:11:15.180 Well, victimhood complex in America, and I guess in the UK is a cancer and it's very

01:11:19.240 intoxicating to people. And so you have these rich celebrities and they come on and say,

01:11:23.100 oh, my life is so hard and all this. And it kind of gives normal people the idea that,

01:11:27.300 okay, if these people are victims and I must really be a victim, my life must really be awful.

01:11:31.680 You know, I go on campus and I do these interviews and debates and I have students come up to me for three hours talking to me.

01:11:37.980 And the biggest thing that I'm talking to these students about is about how my life is so horrible because I'm black, because I'm a woman, because I'm gay, I'm a victim in any sort of these different things.

01:11:46.760 And it's like there's this trend in psychology that you were talking about with therapists and all that that tells people break down your trauma, break down the things that happened to you so that you can think about them and really ruminate on it.

01:11:57.520 but in reality if you want to fix yourself and the things that have gone wrong in your life

01:12:01.060 start making better decisions go and be the person that you want to be go in and be brave

01:12:05.800 and courageous but they're not giving that message to young men they're not giving that

01:12:09.320 message to young women it's all about the victimhood complex and how I can get something

01:12:13.680 out of making people feel bad for me but I think a lot of people are starting to wake up to the

01:12:17.720 fact this doesn't work I mean I look at you know all the him coming and saying these things and I 0.99

01:12:22.320 say, what an absolute loser. This is not someone who I want to emulate in my life. 0.80

01:12:26.900 At all. I mean, if those two had shown up and said, you know what really works exercise,

01:12:33.200 you know, go outside, go for a walk, get a dog interaction with pets. Very good for you.

01:12:38.780 Reconnect with family. They can't say that they've shunned both of their families. He's not on

01:12:44.360 speaking terms with his only brother. He barely speaks to the King. She won't talk to her very

01:12:51.280 ill father or even introduce him to his grandkids. They they've completely ostracized themselves,

01:12:56.720 which, by the way, is one of the signs of an unhealthy person. You look around and like there's

01:13:01.200 zero family connections left. It's you. And yet she wants to talk all about family, how it's

01:13:06.760 important to her. Yet when these kids need help, it's you have to be like me, follow my sayings

01:13:12.500 and learn from my experience dealing with negative press, which I guarantee you does not apply to one

01:13:18.680 child who was listening to her. That's such a good point. And it makes me think that what we've

01:13:23.600 already seen with both of them is that they're opportunists, but they don't really care to help

01:13:27.720 anyone. They only want to help themselves. So it's one big show and you're invited to it,

01:13:32.800 but they're not really there at that table to give any real advice that's going to help these

01:13:36.600 people. They're opportunists, narcissistic opportunists. All right. Now I'm going to 0.57

01:13:41.560 switch to Dave Chappelle because I think he's got some similarities to what we're talking about

01:13:48.340 right here. I don't understand this interview at all. I'm not, I don't totally understand his

01:13:53.000 answers, but what I understand, I object to. And I'm going to show you what he said to this

01:13:58.440 reporter at NPR to whom he gave an interview on like the rage machine. You guys, my team will

01:14:07.100 tell me which they'll run the right one, but he thinks the media has rage baited what he has said

01:14:13.320 in his comedy routines to a place where like the public has been misled that's how i listen to this

01:14:19.860 that's how i hear this bit he said listen here what about people who feel like you're punching

01:14:24.940 down like you're not you are not a trans person and um there are people who feel like it's different

01:14:34.300 when you are part of the group that has been attacked hurt demeaned etc and then if you're

01:14:40.760 outside of that group and you're having comment here about it, it causes feelings.

01:14:44.220 And what do you say to people who feel that in some occasions you're punching down?

01:14:48.460 That's a tough one for me because so much of that was a media phenomenon.

01:14:52.780 What was happening in actual life versus how the media was reporting on my show.

01:15:00.160 And I feel like the way they were put on that show was rage baiting to some degree.

01:15:05.860 And there's so many different branches to talk about it.

01:15:08.640 But I would say that, you know, not everything is for everybody.

01:15:12.400 I don't tell country artists what to sing about if I'm not going to go see a country show.

01:15:17.840 You know, if they bought tickets ever, maybe I'd listen.

01:15:22.940 I don't know.

01:15:23.720 There's never there.

01:15:24.800 I don't even know who's telling them I say these things.

01:15:27.900 So, I mean, Britt, I know you you've been following this because he was he was a very bold person when it came to speaking about the trans thing.

01:15:36.020 You know, he he's been unsparing in a way that you applauded.

01:15:40.800 I applauded like good for him. 1.00

01:15:42.760 He was one of the few to say what's real, you know, which is like trannies are not real fake men or whatever. 1.00

01:15:49.820 They are actual men, not real women. 0.98

01:15:52.040 And now he wants to dismiss it as a media phenomenon.

01:15:56.380 There's actual life like what he actually said versus how the media reported on it.

01:16:02.920 Here's what he said.

01:16:04.560 Here's just one of the jokes he made when he spoke about the trans issue.

01:16:10.160 Guys, can you play the one that I requested on how gender is really a thing?

01:16:15.980 Watch.

01:16:17.280 They've canceled people that are more powerful than me.

01:16:21.560 They canceled J.K. Rowling.

01:16:23.320 My God, J.K. Rowling wrote all the Harry Potter books by herself.

01:16:28.660 She sold so many books.

01:16:30.160 The Bible worries about her.

01:16:34.560 And they canceled it because she said in an interview, and this is not exactly what she said, but effectually, she said, gender was a fact. 0.99

01:16:43.300 And then the trans community got mad as shit. 0.99

01:16:45.700 They started calling her a TERF. 1.00

01:16:47.580 I didn't even know what the fuck that was. 1.00

01:16:50.000 But I know that trans people make up words to win arguments. 0.98

01:16:56.880 I agree.

01:16:59.060 I agree, man. 0.78

01:17:01.080 Gender is a fact. 0.98

01:17:03.280 You have to look at it from a woman's perspective. 0.99

01:17:05.820 A person, Caitlyn Jenner, was voted Woman of the Year.

01:17:12.640 Her first year as a woman.

01:17:15.580 Ain't that something? 1.00

01:17:16.720 Beat every bitch in Detroit. 1.00

01:17:18.440 She's better than all of you. 1.00

01:17:20.340 Gender is a fact. 1.00

01:17:21.380 This is a fact.

01:17:22.140 Every human being in this room, every human being on Earth, 1.00

01:17:25.320 had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on Earth. 1.00

01:17:28.920 That is a fact.

01:17:33.880 So then he got ripped by the left wing for those comments.

01:17:37.260 And now he wants to come back and say there's actual life versus how the media reported on it.

01:17:43.160 The media rage baited.

01:17:44.720 I like I don't know what this is, but to me, it seems like revisionist history.

01:17:48.320 The left got angry over what he said.

01:17:51.980 The right defended him and he spoke the truth, which he should not be running away from or trying to disavow if that's what he's trying to do at all.

01:17:59.920 I'm a little confused.

01:18:01.180 Was he trying to say in this interview that the left media is responsible for taking his content and making it rage bait?

01:18:09.020 Or is he saying that he just said the media?

01:18:11.600 So, I mean, we all just saw what he said, which I'm cracking up.

01:18:16.260 It's because it's that's what comedy is supposed to do.

01:18:19.420 Comedy is supposed to punch up and it's supposed to be something that we can relate to and we can laugh about so we can have serious conversations.

01:18:25.420 but it totally sounds like he's backtracking now,

01:18:28.360 which is a huge disappointment

01:18:29.400 because everything he said in those clips

01:18:31.900 was so completely accurate

01:18:33.260 and you don't need any media to clip it.

01:18:35.920 He said what he said,

01:18:36.940 so I don't know what he's doing

01:18:38.680 if he's trying to shift his tune now,

01:18:41.580 but that would be a total shame

01:18:42.920 because wow, what he said in the past was so well said.

01:18:47.580 Yeah, it was brave and it was correct.

01:18:50.860 And here's the thing, Will,

01:18:51.700 so you heard him in that clip that I just played

01:18:53.700 saying gender is a fact.

01:18:57.320 Gender is a fact. 0.90

01:18:58.200 He called himself Team Turf in the longer clip 0.58

01:19:00.740 and made clear every single one of us here

01:19:03.760 has come out of a woman,

01:19:05.880 like understanding the difference

01:19:07.260 between a woman and a man.

01:19:10.220 And then elsewhere in this interview,

01:19:11.840 he gets angry at Republicans for, quote,

01:19:15.860 weaponizing his jokes.

01:19:19.120 Watch this, SOT24.

01:19:20.460 I did resent that the Republican Party ran on transgender jokes.

01:19:26.100 You know, I felt like they were doing a weaponized version of what I was doing.

01:19:31.920 I didn't, I didn't, it's not what I was doing.

01:19:35.420 I'll give you an example.

01:19:36.780 This is before I learned the phrase, I respectfully declined.

01:19:40.160 And I was on Capitol Hill and everybody ran up to take pictures with me from every congressional office.

01:19:45.960 And I just take pictures with whoever I asked.

01:19:48.060 I didn't ask how they vote or what their voting record is.

01:19:51.720 And everyone at first was like CBC people.

01:19:55.400 And then here comes Lauren Boebert.

01:19:58.500 And she said, can I get a picture?

01:20:00.200 And I had already taken 40 pictures.

01:20:01.740 I didn't want to say no for everybody.

01:20:03.420 But I didn't know the phrase.

01:20:04.480 I respectfully declined.

01:20:05.760 So I just took the picture.

01:20:07.420 And then she posts the picture before I could even get from there to the show.

01:20:11.840 And says something to the effect of just two people that knew that it's just too generous.

01:20:16.700 she instantly like weaponized it or politicized it what how what is he even saying he he's on

01:20:25.420 camera saying gender is a fact we all came out of a woman team turf now he's upset because lauren

01:20:31.980 bobert posted a picture saying two people who understand there are two genders like he he wants

01:20:37.280 to make that a lauren bobert problem she weaponized what he said no like take some responsibility 1.00

01:20:42.500 Megan Chappelle. It's what you said. And you know what? It's controversial. Will says it.

01:20:48.980 Britt says it. I say it. And we take our slings and arrows like grownups and we don't start

01:20:55.120 bitching about somebody who repeats what we said or writes up what we said. It's on you,

01:21:02.380 Dave, not Lauren Boebert, not the media, not Republicans. What is he doing?

01:21:07.880 Well, it sounds a lot to me like someone got to him or they had some sort of threat against him.

01:21:12.900 We're going to cancel this money that you're going to get or something against.

01:21:16.800 They have something on him.

01:21:17.800 I don't know exactly what it is, but the fact that he was the guy on Comedy Central, I mean, making his show, that was the most aggressive show you could go where he made fun of black people, white people, women, gay people.

01:21:27.440 I mean, really, he made fun of everyone.

01:21:28.740 And that was the beauty of it, that no one was safe and that it shed light on all these different issues and gave people a really good look at American life in a lot of ways.

01:21:36.620 And so it feels to me like someone must have got to him on something because I can't imagine him being so weak and coming back in this way and saying, oh, I disavow these things and I disavow Republicans or anything like that.

01:21:47.760 Because he's not coming here and saying, oh, well, you know, the left also came after me in this way and they were super cruel to me and awful.

01:21:54.020 He's not saying that.

01:21:55.120 He's coming and saying the Republicans did it.

01:21:56.940 So it feels like somebody got to him.

01:22:00.560 And honestly, like how low to to be like, I should have said I respectfully decline.

01:22:05.860 You won't pose for a photo. Had you known it was Lauren Boebert or had you had it to do over again, you wouldn't have posed for a photo with Lauren Boebert. I mean, that's hashtag part of the problem. There's like there's not a person in Congress with whom I wouldn't pose for a photo unless that guy Scott Wiener gets elected, Brett, in which case we're all going to have a big, big problem.

01:22:29.580 But like, that's just like, whatever.

01:22:32.000 Generally, we put our politics aside when people want photos with us and you do it. 1.00

01:22:35.920 You're not like a complete ass. 0.99

01:22:38.160 And Lauren Boebert is not so beyond the pale that she should be, you know, you can't appear 0.99

01:22:42.220 with her in public.

01:22:42.940 I'm sure many people don't want to appear with Eric Swalwell at the moment, but like,

01:22:46.900 let's be real.

01:22:47.680 Like she's not so far outside the mainstream.

01:22:49.840 You should be like saying, no, I respectfully decline.

01:22:52.020 So get off your high horse, Dave.

01:22:54.140 All right.

01:22:54.560 As we're talking about comedians, Jimmy Kimmel went on the Michelle Obama podcast, which still has about four viewers, and had thoughts on why him no longer being funny is just fine, and he stands by it.

01:23:11.080 This is him in Sat 13, I think it is.

01:23:14.380 And you have so bravely and boldly used your platform to speak truth to power, as they would say.

01:23:23.000 Well, thank you.

01:23:23.620 I don't think of it as bravely, boldly, maybe.

01:23:25.980 It just seems obvious and unavoidable.

01:23:29.600 And I don't see that.

01:23:33.120 I just can't imagine on those nights talking about anything other than what we are talking about.

01:23:41.860 I think it would be embarrassing if we didn't talk about this stuff.

01:23:46.280 It would be shameful to say that, well, your job is this.

01:23:50.040 it makes me i bristle at that because first of all don't tell me what my job is you know i don't

01:23:56.820 tell you what your job is my job is whatever i decide my job is whatever my employer yeah allows

01:24:03.060 me to do um that that's what my job is comedians have been doing this for a long time it just shows

01:24:08.880 a great deal of ignorance when it comes to comedy to say well johnny carson didn't do this like well

01:24:14.820 first of all we're living in a different time and secondly how do you know johnny carson wouldn't do

01:24:20.800 it i bet johnny carson would talk about it i bet johnny carson would be absolutely mortified by

01:24:26.040 what's going on i think you're wrong jimmy here's top 14 1979 you get sensitive about the fact that

01:24:33.620 people say he'll never take a serious controversy well i have an answer to that i said no tell me

01:24:40.720 the last time that jack benny red skeleton uh benny comedian used his show to do serious issues

01:24:49.380 that's not what i'm there for can't they see that but you're not either they think that just

01:24:54.700 because you have a tonight show that you must deal in serious issues that's a danger it's a real

01:25:01.440 danger once you start that you start to get that self-important feeling that what you say has great

01:25:07.840 import. And you know, strangely enough, you could use that show as a forum. You could sway people.

01:25:12.180 And I don't think you should as an entertainer. Look at that. The difference between humility

01:25:17.460 and hubris will, right? One man is humble and understands his role and how valuable it is.

01:25:23.700 It doesn't make you lower not to be speaking out on these dicey issues. It actually

01:25:27.940 makes you elevated in the eyes of the public because you do such a service for them. You

01:25:32.680 make them laugh through these difficult times. The more difficult, the more needed laughter is.

01:25:38.740 But Jimmy Kimmel needs to feel important, self-important, and therefore doesn't care

01:25:44.620 about that lofty goal anymore and smears Johnny Carson by suggesting, you know, Trump is so

01:25:50.100 uniquely bad. Even Johnny Carson would break that rule. Listening to that Johnny Carson soundbite,

01:25:54.860 do you think he would break his rule? Is Jimmy Kimmel right? No, Carson is right as rain in that.

01:25:59.520 I mean, that is exactly what these comedians should be doing.

01:26:02.380 They should be making people laugh because if you're going to say that the world is so

01:26:05.620 terrible and we're living under fascism and Trump is so bad and all these kind of things,

01:26:09.260 then you should be even stronger trying to make people have that relaxation, those good

01:26:13.720 feelings after they finish work or whatever it is, that they can come home and just have

01:26:17.540 some happiness in their lives.

01:26:18.880 They don't need it from you.

01:26:19.840 You're not an expert.

01:26:20.700 You're not someone who's dealing with these kind of things.

01:26:22.840 Your job, I'm telling you what your job is, Jimmy, is to make us laugh.

01:26:26.400 That is why you are here.

01:26:27.820 That is why you are hired.

01:26:28.760 That is the purpose of your show. And you can leave these types of political topics for people who are better versed in it, who are actually going to give opinions and facts and things that are going to enrich people's lives when they want it. But this is not the time when they actually want it. They want to come on and be entertained after dealing with all the nonsense of the world every day. So Carson was 100% correct.

01:26:49.060 Yes. Of course, his show is failing. That's what happens when you have Adam Schiff on as your guest instead of Tom Cruise. So yeah, that's why the Tonight Show is going to go away. One more thought from this. She is so feckless, Michelle Obama. She's always so mean to Brother Craig. Listen to how she begins the show here in SOT 12.

01:27:09.120 we are very excited about our next guest and and uh i want to tell a little brief story before we

01:27:19.960 bring him out because this whole time we were talking about how both of us have been on his

01:27:27.200 show uh-huh that's never happened right no because no one invites nobody invites me anywhere

01:27:33.060 nice she is so nasty to poor brother craig the whole show is like a vehicle to support 0.95

01:27:40.320 michelle's ego and make her look important and like everybody wants a piece of her which no

01:27:45.700 one does anymore and brother craig is just there as like fodder he's like the background piece

01:27:50.600 that sometimes has to like lob in a supportive comment of her and a self-deprecating one of him

01:27:54.640 of him it's just such a pathetic vibe anyway i want to keep going brit this one next one's for 0.64

01:27:59.140 you. The Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni trial starts on May 17th. I mean, we are now about a

01:28:07.600 month away, almost exactly, right? Is today the 17th? No, today's the 16th. Yeah, so we're about

01:28:13.460 a month away exactly from this trial. And I think it will go to trial. Like they are so dug in on

01:28:19.780 their positions, even though her case has largely been gutted. Her sexual harassment case was thrown

01:28:24.740 out. Mostly what remains is her retaliation complaint against him, claiming that because

01:28:30.260 she complained of sexual harassment on the set, he then orchestrated a media campaign against her.

01:28:36.440 And that's a much better case for Justin Baldoni, because he's got tons of proof that those PR

01:28:44.600 experts he brought in, as nasty as their text messages to one another were, were brought in

01:28:51.360 defensively after Blake Lively had turned on him and started to publicly humiliate him.

01:28:57.440 She was the much bigger star. She's married to a bigger star than both of them. Her best friend

01:29:02.060 was Taylor Swift. And I think Baldoni's got a very good case that he accurately deduced

01:29:06.400 he was about to be ruined by this woman and her so-called dragons and did not ruin her reputation,

01:29:13.280 but she did that herself in the bad press around their movie. And we've just learned that one of

01:29:19.440 the witnesses, the defense, Justin Baldoni's team is going to call is Kirstie Fla. Who is Kirstie

01:29:27.060 Fla? She is, I believe from the Netherlands. And she is the one who on a press junket that Blake

01:29:33.900 Lively and Parker Posey, that they were on promoting a movie. And the junket, the way the

01:29:42.780 junket works is you get 10 minutes. I've been on, I've been the reporter doing one of these where

01:29:47.400 like, you know, NBC gets 10 minutes, you get 10 minutes, CBS gets 10 minutes, Access Hollywood

01:29:52.800 gets 10 minutes, whatever. So she, as this foreign journalist, got 10 minutes with the two of them.

01:29:57.560 And she is the one who sat down and had that incredible moment where she commented, Blake

01:30:04.180 likely had gone public with the fact that she was pregnant. She looked pregnant. And she said

01:30:08.760 something about how cute her baby bump was. And Blake was such a bitch to her. So, so Kirstie's 1.00

01:30:15.560 been called as a witness by the defense, and she is prepared to testify for the defense on how nasty

01:30:21.560 Blake Lively was to her and what happened after this interview. As a reminder, here's the sound

01:30:25.560 bite in SOT 31. First of all, congrats on your little bump. Congrats on your little bump.

01:30:33.260 What about my bump? You've got two nice ones. They are kind of bumps, aren't they? No, 0.79

01:30:42.220 Not bumps, the lovely lady lumps. 0.99

01:30:44.960 Check it out.

01:30:45.700 Thank you, thank you.

01:30:47.100 Do you like the movie?

01:30:48.240 Are you a Woody Allen fan?

01:30:49.320 I love most of his movies,

01:30:50.700 and this one was so, like, visually amazing.

01:30:53.720 Yeah, it's gorgeous.

01:30:54.920 Did you guys love wearing those kind of clothes that you...

01:30:58.100 Yeah.

01:30:58.920 Yeah.

01:30:59.220 And, you know, working in digital...

01:31:00.360 Everyone wants to talk about the clothes,

01:31:01.420 but I wonder if they would ask the men about the clothes.

01:31:04.340 I would.

01:31:05.140 I love Jesse's suits and how he...

01:31:07.960 That's what I'm saying.

01:31:08.800 His wardrobe was beautiful.

01:31:10.260 Oh, I know.

01:31:10.600 Corey's wardrobe was, of course, those high-waisted pants.

01:31:14.220 He's so great.

01:31:14.920 I would wish men wore high-waisted pants like that still.

01:31:18.240 Or their father with his tank top in it.

01:31:21.460 Oh, it's so good. 0.96

01:31:22.800 Yeah, it's not just the women that have the clothes. 1.00

01:31:25.900 I feel like the women get the conversation, but it's like. 1.00

01:31:30.340 She's such a bitch. 1.00

01:31:32.400 And Parker Posey looks terrible there, too. 1.00

01:31:35.080 Shame on her.

01:31:36.200 And by the way, Kirstie has revealed that, of course, she wasn't pregnant.

01:31:40.600 like Blake was, and can't get pregnant.

01:31:43.560 So you never know what you're dealing with,

01:31:45.180 which is yet another reason

01:31:46.120 why you don't make those snide, nasty comments, Blake,

01:31:49.500 to somebody who's made one millionth

01:31:52.780 of what you have in your wallet right now

01:31:55.480 in her career as a journalist in the Netherlands.

01:31:59.120 Like, how dare you? 1.00

01:32:00.260 How dare you be so dismissive and nasty? 0.86

01:32:02.760 And again, shame on you, Parker Posey. 0.94

01:32:04.820 You've escaped the scorn of people

01:32:07.360 because we're also focused on Blake,

01:32:08.840 who's playing the victim.

01:32:09.700 but you, you look terrible in that SOT too. So here's Kirstie. She went on our pal Billy Bush's 0.99

01:32:16.660 podcast two days ago and she's talked all about it. It was a fascinating exchange. Um, here's

01:32:23.800 Summit and SOT 32. Well, I could think about in that moment was like, is she joking now? You know,

01:32:30.200 are they doing this for real? I, I did, it didn't really like, it couldn't sink in that they were

01:32:37.500 actually being that rude and while I was sitting there first I was like okay this is not happening

01:32:44.380 and then I started getting a bit angry and then I started getting frustrated and I was like I just

01:32:50.440 want this to be over with yeah and the fact is I was supposed to have a longer interview and they

01:32:55.960 cut it short so I you know still I think it's interesting that they actually let me keep the

01:33:02.500 interview because sometimes, you know, they actually take the tape away if they don't like

01:33:07.420 their tape. And you know what? That's so interesting because that just tells you that

01:33:11.800 this was normal Blake Lively behavior. They weren't even thinking that, oh, she's not behaving

01:33:17.180 very nicely towards this reporter. They were just like, OK, yeah, she's like that with everyone.

01:33:23.440 They're going to use her to get that tape in in front of the jury, Brett. And you tell me how a

01:33:29.060 jury is likely to react to that. Well, I think the jury is going to react exactly how we all did.

01:33:34.900 It makes you feel really, really uncomfortable. And it paints Blake in such a mean girl light.

01:33:41.640 And even just seeing her facial expressions, it makes you wonder what she's capable and how

01:33:46.780 capable of and how far she will go to secure the next level of whatever it is she's trying to gain. 1.00

01:33:53.760 The thing that I have learned is that mean girls always fall, and the bigger they are, the harder the fall. 0.69

01:34:00.500 And in this case, I do hope that we get to see a very serious fall. 1.00

01:34:06.120 I'm a mom of a son, and this whole me too, believe all women thing went to such a different level where it concerns me as a mom of a son that women will just automatically default position, be believed. 0.95

01:34:20.000 And I think we're starting to see the implications of that in real time with someone who is very narcissistic and very, very mean and honestly probably won't stop at anything to get what she wants. 0.68

01:34:32.260 So I do. I hope that's shown to the jury because it's a perfect picture of how ugly and mean women can be. 1.00

01:34:40.100 Oh, it will be. They will use Kirstie to get it into evidence for her. 1.00

01:34:45.260 She can lay the foundation for it and they can show it as because their defense is going

01:34:49.800 to be it wasn't Justin's PR team that caused Blake Lively's bad press or her declining

01:34:55.380 popularity.

01:34:56.280 It was Blake Lively herself and the way she conducted herself on camera repeatedly.

01:35:01.760 Here's a little more from Kirstie with Billy Bush again on his show two days ago.

01:35:07.260 SOT 34.

01:35:08.700 Seen a bunch of reports lately. 1.00

01:35:10.060 She's, you know, she wants to kill a 2009 article where she uses the word tranny.

01:35:16.320 And then, of course, a 2014 article where it's about her wedding to Ryan Reynolds on a plantation.

01:35:24.760 So there you go. You got the LGBTQ community. You've got black people.

01:35:29.720 You've got it. This is you got it all covered. 1.00

01:35:32.920 And now I think what she's been doing the last couple of days and she's been filing all this stuff that she doesn't want the public to see. 0.94

01:35:39.820 And by doing that, she just reminds everyone of all the bad PR she's received before this.

01:35:47.400 So everything that she doesn't want the jury to know, she's making sure that the public knows. 0.96

01:35:51.800 And her whole point of this lawsuit is to convince the public that she is, you know, a nice person and that she's supposed to be really popular. 0.99

01:36:01.420 So it's really everything she does just backfires on her in such a stupid way. 0.99

01:36:09.820 You know, here's my question. One of the interesting things, Will, is who's going to react more negatively, the male jurors or the female jurors? 0.99

01:36:20.440 I don't personally know exactly how they would react in that. I'll be honest with you, Megan. I hadn't heard of this story before. Maybe I'm too much of a man and didn't even know that Blake Lively these things were going on beforehand. But what I can say with these kind of things going on is that there's only really two ways to get canceled in Hollywood.

01:36:37.140 And that's either your movies stop making money or you don't align with the leftist principles.

01:36:42.320 And so honestly, with all of this, I feel it's very sad that Blake Lively is going to be completely fine after this and that nothing is going to actually happen to her.

01:36:50.920 She's going to continue to get cast in films and all of this.

01:36:53.640 And these are just the kind of things that the American people deal with as long as they have the right opinions and they keep making money.

01:36:58.140 And I find that very sad.

01:36:59.260 And maybe that's part of the reason why I'm not so involved with Hollywood culture, because, I mean, these people, their lives and the way they treat people and how they act is just so irrelevant to the way that I try and live my life.

01:37:11.240 But I unfortunately don't think anything's actually going to even happen to her in a negative light.

01:37:19.420 I'll say I think women are going to respond more negatively to it, but I think men are going to be right there.

01:37:24.000 They're going to be right there, too, because they're going to feel protective of Christy. 1.00

01:37:26.860 they're not going to like this rich bitch putting down this earnest sweet reporter who was doing 1.00

01:37:33.680 nothing wrong and they'll feel protective of her but the women are going to make her pay they are 1.00

01:37:39.280 not going to like that we've all been on the receiving end of that mean girl shit brit and um 1.00

01:37:44.840 she this little sweet act that she's she can get away with when she sits in front of like a hollywood 1.00

01:37:50.520 press where she doesn't take questions she's in front of the camera glowing like oh poor me it's 1.00

01:37:56.000 not going to fly when she's under cross-examination and she's got somebody like that that the jury

01:38:00.580 gets to see. I honestly, well, you know, I love you. I actually think that this is going to kill

01:38:04.800 her career. I don't think that she's going to go much further than this. And I agree, right? We

01:38:09.300 know that Hollywood is left and all of their agenda, but I think she way overplayed her hand 1.00

01:38:15.260 and I don't think women are going to be showing up to see her movies anymore. I know that the 1.00

01:38:20.480 overall tone on Blake Lively and even her fallout, I think now with Taylor Swift and some of the other

01:38:25.920 Brittany Mahata or whoever she is, 0.87

01:38:28.020 like the NFL wife, 1.00

01:38:29.180 there's been a lot of fallouts in her, 1.00

01:38:30.800 there you go,

01:38:31.240 in her inner circles

01:38:33.080 that I think signals a larger fallout

01:38:36.480 where I just don't think people are going to show up

01:38:38.520 and watch her in a romance film

01:38:39.820 and be thinking,

01:38:40.840 oh, I wish I could be her, 1.00

01:38:42.200 which is really the play for women's emotions. 0.98

01:38:44.840 So I think she overplayed it.

01:38:46.460 And I think,

01:38:46.940 I personally think she's done.

01:38:49.380 Yeah, I agree with you.

01:38:50.780 I think she's in an Amber Heard situation

01:38:53.020 at the end of this trial 0.88

01:38:53.860 where she's got nothing.

01:38:55.920 she's got nothing here's another sampling by the way of her during the promotion of a film about

01:39:01.500 domestic violence and her messaging at the time stop 35 and it ends with us is in theaters now

01:39:08.860 so grab your friends wear your florals and head out to see it so if someone understands the themes

01:39:15.240 of this movie comes across you in public uh and they want to really talk to you what's the best

01:39:19.640 way for them to be able to talk to you about this how would you recommend they go about it like

01:39:23.120 Asking for like my address or my phone number or like my location share.

01:39:28.100 I could just location share you and then we could.

01:39:31.320 So we're making the hot chocolate cookies that Atlas makes for young Lily in our movie.

01:39:37.120 It ends with us.

01:39:37.940 You guys, we talked about our movie.

01:39:39.120 Not at all.

01:39:39.640 Thanks for joining us.

01:39:40.720 In theaters, August 9th.

01:39:43.480 Let's wrap, guys.

01:39:44.620 We got it.

01:39:46.120 I think she's done.

01:39:47.820 I think she's cooked.

01:39:49.140 I don't like her.

01:39:50.000 I just judging off of that. I have such a bad taste in my mouth. I don't like her. And I think

01:39:55.820 that's going to be the overall takeaway, um, in the macro. I don't, I don't think people are going

01:40:02.000 to be showing up to watch her anymore. Well, I think it's interesting. Will doesn't know anything

01:40:06.120 about this in the time we have left. How do you, how do you like her? What's your impression of

01:40:09.840 her? He used to have a big crush on her as a kid. So I thought she was beautiful. You know,

01:40:15.000 I mean, I saw her in one movie. I thought she looked great, but I guess now I don't have a

01:40:19.720 crush on her. You know, me and Blake Lively, it's over for us. So I'm sorry. This was a

01:40:23.960 crush on a hard fall for you, Will. Sorry. Yeah. Unfortunately. Yeah. But no, of course,

01:40:28.360 I mean, that's total mean girl behavior. And it's indicative of the people who are in Hollywood

01:40:31.380 who never have anyone tell them no. They constantly get told yes, they can't do any wrong.

01:40:35.520 And this is how they act. And they treat people like garbage. And so this isn't surprising at all 1.00

01:40:40.060 that her true colors are coming out. And yeah, I don't think very highly of her at all or really

01:40:44.680 anyone in Hollywood, to be honest. There's very few people there I respect. It's really just

01:40:47.760 surprising she did it on camera, you know, but you're right. It's a function of her narcissism

01:40:52.320 and her being told how wonderful she is that she thinks she can do this and everyone's going to be

01:40:55.620 on her side and she's always right. All right, Britt, can you stay over? My team says you can

01:41:00.180 stay a little. I know Will's got to run. All right, stay around because I've got to, there's

01:41:04.500 a couple of things I need to get to with you. Okay, we'll be right back. Don't go away.

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01:44:31.100 brit mayer is back with me now brit a couple things that i wanted to talk to you about

01:44:39.840 first of all i don't know if you ever watched uh or familiar with the show malcolm in the middle but

01:44:45.940 it's like a you know family show um wholesome like kind of universally safe well it's getting

01:44:53.660 a reboot and it's getting a reboot with a female character who is non-binary. Great. Says at five,

01:45:05.140 who says at five, she started to feel wrong. Here's the soundbite. It's not 36. I was like

01:45:11.460 five when I started feeling wrong.

01:45:17.200 Thought I was great at hiding it because you guys never said anything.

01:45:21.000 but then 0.78

01:45:23.440 I had this one really shitty day

01:45:28.520 in the fifth grade

01:45:30.420 with the other kids

01:45:31.500 and even my teacher

01:45:33.700 when I had little kid problems

01:45:40.320 I'd just go to dad

01:45:42.980 and he'd clown around

01:45:44.520 and make me feel better

01:45:45.340 and I wanted to do that

01:45:48.800 But instead, I just blurted out, Dad, am I wrong?

01:45:56.640 And he was looking at me, and I knew that he knew and had always known.

01:46:06.640 Okay.

01:46:08.080 Now, yeah, we have to have a non-binary in the reboot.

01:46:11.800 And apparently the show creators have said, let's see, it's Tracy Katsky is the executive producer along with Linwood Boomer, their husband and wife together.

01:46:25.760 And they say, Katsky, the wife says, I got to tell you, it's a really important thing to us. 0.64

01:46:31.840 Three out of our four children are queer.

01:46:35.920 And so without making it a thing or without making it an issue, I think it's really nice to have a character that's just a facet of their personality as opposed to the entire story.

01:46:46.340 Your thoughts?

01:46:47.460 Well, my thoughts just watching that clip.

01:46:49.320 I do remember Malcolm in the Middle because I think that was like a big show back in the day.

01:46:53.300 I didn't know that they were doing a reboot, but it's poison.

01:46:56.480 That is why my kids do not watch cable because everything that is hurled at them with this debased ideology is so confusing.

01:47:05.420 Even watching that as an adult, it's confusing.

01:47:08.220 I don't, like, what are you trying to say?

01:47:11.260 You went to your dad because you were having little kid problems, and then your dad said,

01:47:15.400 I've always known.

01:47:16.060 But what that communicates to a kid is that when you are confused about bigger things

01:47:21.760 that your frontal cortex can't fully process, maybe you're a boy.

01:47:27.020 Maybe you just should tell your parents you're a boy.

01:47:30.080 It's poisonous, and it's toxic, and it causes irreparable damage.

01:47:34.580 ultimately it is child abuse on TV screens. I am so sick and tired of the target being our kids

01:47:42.220 through reboots and through whatever, whatever that poison, that poison is and wherever that

01:47:48.380 poison comes from. The more they slip it into our culture as normal, the more children are going to

01:47:57.440 be attracted to it. And parents, the vast majority of them will have no idea that the reboot of

01:48:03.660 Malcolm in the Middle starring Frankie Muniz, who is back now as the adult,

01:48:08.200 is going to be anything other than super family friendly. They're just going to have like,

01:48:13.100 wow, or they're going to let their kids watch it when they're not around and have this very sick

01:48:19.120 ideology shoved down their children's throats while they are trusting and making dinner and

01:48:24.580 not really paying attention. This is how kids get pulled down this lane, Brit. But it used to be

01:48:29.980 they'd have to go on Reddit at least, or spend hours and hours on YouTube. Now it's going to be

01:48:34.400 on mainstream programming. You make a good point, though, that parents wouldn't expect that. I know

01:48:39.120 that they're doing a reboot of Little House on the Prairie. I don't know what to expect there

01:48:43.200 either. But as a mom in this day and age, that's why we have to be so on it. And we don't have time

01:48:49.280 to watch everything and screen everything. Thank the Lord for Hail Mary that I could actually take

01:48:54.140 my kids to, and there wasn't anything shoved at them. We want more of that. We want more of the

01:48:59.680 feel good where I can take my kids to see a show and we all enjoy it. We like we feel so good after

01:49:06.840 leaving. But if that crap was on my TV screen, you know how confusing that would be to not my kids 0.99

01:49:12.680 because my kids are well aware of the poison, but to so many kids across America who would just sit 0.99

01:49:17.200 there and think, huh, you know what? I kind of feel confused about whatever it is. Maybe I'm a

01:49:23.480 boy. Maybe I identify. And that's the poison. That's it is so sadistic. It is so abusive. And

01:49:29.180 then they get handed over to the therapist who tell them, yeah, you are a boy. And then they

01:49:33.380 get handed over to the machine of medicine that puts them on poison to stop their puberty. And

01:49:38.360 then they end up on cutting machines where their bodies are irreparably damaged for life. It is so

01:49:44.000 sick. It is one of the greatest sins in America. And I hate that it's still being pushed. I hate

01:49:50.180 it, hate it, hate it. Yeah. Yes. There's a soundbite making the news from Elizabeth Banks, 0.99

01:49:56.620 the actress, saying she can't believe that 52% of white women voted for Trump over Kamala Harris.

01:50:03.460 And she feels like, you know, we've abandoned her and we just did the wrong thing. And how could we?

01:50:08.080 And it's like, you know how we could? This. Exactly. This shit. Yep. We actually care

01:50:12.420 about our children. We want our boys to say boys and our girls to say girls. And we don't want

01:50:16.400 people like you, Elizabeth, getting their hands on them and giving them any mixed messages about

01:50:20.740 what's possible when it comes to gender, sex, et cetera, very easily and would obviously vote

01:50:25.760 for Trump again. It doesn't matter around war or not, like 100 percent would pull the lever for

01:50:30.800 Trump again over a Kamala Harris. You've got to be crazy. You know, it's it's crazy. I was just 0.99

01:50:35.540 thinking that this morning I was actually going through everything going on right with Trump and

01:50:40.420 the administration. And there's so much to say on that side of why there's a lot of people who

01:50:45.280 aren't loving him anymore. Right. And I get that the geopolitical lens. But as a mom, I'm telling

01:50:50.140 you moms read the room different and moms and moms understand why he was and still is the better

01:50:56.860 alternative because it comes down to our kids easily easily um i mean we're not judging him

01:51:02.740 against any other republicans we're judging him against kamala harris a truly radical person

01:51:07.020 um now speaking of the controversy around trump the the big one this week has been his fight with

01:51:14.360 the Pope. And on top of that, him posting this picture of himself as Jesus, which then he did,

01:51:22.660 he did the rare thing. He actually took it down. He got so much blowback on that from Christians

01:51:26.740 that he took it down. But then in my view, he did the wrong thing because he lied about it and said,

01:51:31.680 oh, I didn't know I was Jesus. I thought I was a doctor. I don't believe one word of that.

01:51:34.940 It's like, just don't, don't, just don't lie. Just say, I took it down. Thought it would be

01:51:39.400 funny, whatever. Enough people were offended that I took it down, but he didn't. So Joy Behar and

01:51:44.400 the ladies of the view decided to weigh in on this and listen to what Joy Behar said. Listen

01:51:51.300 to where Joy Behar took it in like the most, this is actually genuinely funny. Watch.

01:51:57.180 Jesus himself did not run around saying I'm the Messiah. I'm the Messiah.

01:52:00.940 Uh, Jesus kind of, you're supposed to have a little bit of,

01:52:03.780 That's exactly what Jesus said, I am the Messiah.

01:52:06.220 You know what?

01:52:07.400 Why is it not?

01:52:09.020 Jesus was more public.

01:52:11.260 The Pope's got God in time.

01:52:14.740 Jesus said, I knew Jesus.

01:52:17.960 Jesus was not narcissistic like this guy.

01:52:20.880 But when you are the Messiah, it's not narcissism.

01:52:23.180 Just say it.

01:52:24.020 Yes, it is.

01:52:25.000 When you are the Messiah.

01:52:26.140 I'm going to move this along because this is like, it's too much for me. 0.99

01:52:30.100 too stupid even for whoopee okay yeah jesus did run around saying i am the messiah it's kind of 0.99

01:52:39.840 why all the jews got mad at him and brought him over to the romans saying let's get rid of this 1.00

01:52:44.540 guy he's claiming he's god like yeah honestly that is incredibly ignorant even for the view

01:52:50.620 i mean the view has a very low threshold but i i saw that clip and i was thinking wait a second

01:52:56.200 You know, I'm a cradle Protestant, so I was raised in the church.

01:52:59.920 I actually was planning to go to study MDiv years ago.

01:53:04.200 That was my passion was theology, and it didn't end up working out that way.

01:53:08.120 But I have been a student of the Bible for a really long time.

01:53:12.120 And when I was watching that, I'm thinking, wait a second.

01:53:14.700 At the very beginning of Jesus's ministry, there's a story of him and John where he meets

01:53:19.220 with a Samaritan woman at a well.

01:53:21.120 And she tells him, like, my people have been waiting for a Messiah.

01:53:26.200 And Jesus's response at the very beginning of his ministry is, I am he.

01:53:31.860 So just hearing joy reduce him to what they always do, right?

01:53:36.040 He's a mascot.

01:53:36.980 He's a cute guy in a white flowy suit.

01:53:40.300 I think it showcases how media doesn't understand Jesus.

01:53:46.940 And, you know, yeah, was it funny?

01:53:48.880 But it was so theologically wrong.

01:53:50.760 Jesus absolutely claimed to be the Messiah.

01:53:52.580 And like you said, it's what got him in a lot of trouble and ultimately on the cross.

01:53:56.600 Yeah.

01:53:57.900 Yeah.

01:53:58.480 I mean, like, it's sort of a basic tenant.

01:54:00.380 I don't know what Joy's religion is, but sort of a basic tenant of Judeo.

01:54:04.480 Well, they don't believe that he was the Messiah, but they understand he said it.

01:54:07.980 Christian, you know, beliefs. 0.94

01:54:09.280 So the level of ignorance was kind of stunning over there. 0.97

01:54:12.320 And it's pushed us so on the subject. 0.98

01:54:14.100 It's it's that's what's so ridiculous is it's pushed as if she is a pastor. 0.91

01:54:17.760 She is a theologian. 0.99

01:54:18.920 She knows he would never because you would be so narcissistic. 0.94

01:54:21.580 am i narcissistic to claim my name's brit like it's just so ridiculous right right it was actually 0.54

01:54:27.700 really stunning and she she doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on it was actually very amusing

01:54:31.380 to me like you got like there was no even sense of like wait am i up am i out of a limb here that

01:54:38.540 i want to like from nope nope um okay on the subject of theology making its way into the

01:54:44.820 White House a lot. You know, President Trump taking on the Pope and posing as Jesus. I've got

01:54:51.960 to talk to you about Pete Hegson. I'm a fan of Pete's. I helped get him this job. He would be

01:54:57.580 the first to tell you that. However, I am not a fan of the praying and the constant references

01:55:04.520 to God, Jesus, and the Bible from the Pentagon while he's announcing war plans. It makes me

01:55:11.980 very uncomfortable. Very. I do not think those two things belong together. I much prefer the Dan

01:55:18.580 Raisin Cain approach of just the facts, the religion. Obviously, it's a major part of Pete's

01:55:25.660 life. That's great. And I'm in favor of that. It doesn't belong when you're talking about our plans

01:55:30.380 to wipe out people, including possible civilians, as President Trump continues to threaten.

01:55:36.880 It's these two things do not belong together. And I just I'm really uncomfortable with it.

01:55:40.940 If Joe Biden did this through his Pentagon, I would have ripped him a new one.

01:55:45.280 And therefore, notwithstanding my friendship with Pete, I feel the need to register my

01:55:49.320 strong objection to what he's doing today.

01:55:53.260 He did it about I'm going to play you the soundbite.

01:55:57.280 You're going to hear a long wind up on a religious story he told about his time in

01:56:00.900 church this past Sunday.

01:56:02.480 He's talking.

01:56:03.440 You will ultimately learn at the end of it.

01:56:04.820 I think it's beneficial to know right now about the press.

01:56:08.180 He's going to turn this whole thing, this story he's going to tell us, around on the horrible press, which is like another, like, what is he doing?

01:56:18.680 Like, you do not, in that post, bring up Jesus to rip on media from your perch at the Pentagon.

01:56:27.300 Here's what happened.

01:56:28.800 This past Sunday, I was sitting in church with my family, and our minister preached from the book of Mark, the third chapter.

01:56:38.180 And in the passage, Jesus entered a synagogue and healed a man with a withered hand.

01:56:44.900 The Pharisees came to watch.

01:56:47.940 And as the scripture reads, they came to see whether he, Jesus, would heal him on the Sabbath

01:56:54.800 so that they might accuse him.

01:56:59.160 You see, the Pharisees, the so-called and self-appointed elites of their time,

01:57:04.820 They were there to witness, to write everything down, to report.

01:57:10.880 But their hearts were hardened.

01:57:13.540 Even though they witnessed a literal miracle, it didn't matter.

01:57:18.080 They were only there to explain away the goodness in pursuit of their agenda.

01:57:24.320 As the passage ends, the Pharisees went out and immediately held counsel against him, how to destroy him.

01:57:30.580 I sat there in church and I thought our press are just like these Pharisees not all of you not all of you but the legacy Trump hating press.

01:57:44.340 hmm okay your thoughts on that and this administration's increasingly frequent

01:57:52.500 use of catholicism and christianity and jesus himself to make a political point yeah i mean

01:58:03.600 that makes me uncomfortable too i was there with the wind up you know i'm kind of waiting where

01:58:07.540 where are you going to connect the dots here that what you're saying is accurate the story

01:58:11.600 your painting, but how are you going to connect it? And then when it turns and you're relating

01:58:15.820 a very deeply theological issue to the press, yeah, that rubs me wrong. It's not a good

01:58:22.540 connection. It's taken totally out of context. What I will say is that historically, we have

01:58:27.420 had leaders in America who have called upon the Bible and theology to support missions or policies.

01:58:35.720 So I'm not as uncomfortable, you know, with that.

01:58:38.620 I think it needs to be treaded with very much care

01:58:42.780 and never to take the name Jesus or to take a meme

01:58:46.380 or to take a Bible story and then twist it

01:58:49.680 because anyone can do that.

01:58:51.020 And that's where religion and politics

01:58:52.620 can be very, very dangerous and manipulated

01:58:55.040 and used for very, very bad means.

01:58:57.940 So I think we have to be very careful.

01:58:59.920 Do I trust Pete Hegseth much more

01:59:01.940 than I would, say, Biden or Kamala spewing Bible verses?

01:59:06.740 Yes.

01:59:07.460 Am I also a little weary and concerned

01:59:10.500 about how Bible verses are used when it comes to politics?

01:59:14.940 Yes.

01:59:15.440 I have a blanket distrust on how it can be used

01:59:18.680 and taken out of context.

01:59:20.420 Obviously, I'm very concerned about the religious advisor

01:59:23.620 that Trump has closest to him, Paula White.

01:59:26.640 You know, I think that's very-

01:59:27.480 Paula White? 0.99

01:59:27.880 Very dangerous.

01:59:28.820 Yes, very, very dangerous. 1.00

01:59:30.040 She's a nutcase. 1.00

01:59:30.980 Total nutcase. 0.99

01:59:31.620 And that's why I think we have to be very careful.

01:59:33.920 But I will say, too, in Romans, we see that there is absolutely a place where in God's

01:59:39.620 perfect order for human flourishing, God gives government a role.

01:59:44.220 And that role is to protect and to defend and to yield the sword against injustice.

01:59:50.020 So I think that there's a tension.

01:59:51.920 I would say there's a tension held in how religion plays out and to really make sure

01:59:57.120 that it is not used as a weapon for personal gain.

02:00:01.620 Yeah, I think as an inspiration, absolutely.

02:00:04.880 References to God in general, totally for them.

02:00:07.920 But the Sunday biblical references, psalms and so on,

02:00:13.820 that we've been getting from Pete Hegseth regularly

02:00:16.360 as he's announcing who we're going to bomb next

02:00:19.260 or how we're going to kill next,

02:00:21.960 it makes me extremely uncomfortable.

02:00:24.220 I'm begging you, Pete, to stop doing that.

02:00:25.660 I think also the platform, right, too.

02:00:28.420 Is that the right place to talk about

02:00:30.640 the man with the withered hand having his hand healed, because I don't know if that's the right

02:00:35.240 environment, you know, for that. I get if you're on a podcast and you're talking about it

02:00:40.160 as a personal note, but also like attaching that story to the press is so far out of bounds.

02:00:46.680 That's not what that story is at all about. And that's where it can become really dangerous. And

02:00:51.460 we have to really tread as Christians with care in all of these issues. Yes, see everything from

02:00:56.960 a biblical lens and worldview, but also we cannot reduce scripture for personal gain or even for

02:01:04.960 political justification of things. I do want to tell you this, Megan. I think when I saw that

02:01:10.040 picture that Trump posted, because I saw it when it went live, I thought there's no way that Trump

02:01:14.360 really posted that. And sure enough, he did. I thought it was him trolling the Pope. I never

02:01:20.200 thought that it was Jesus. And I know a lot of people, they said, oh, that's a messianic imagery.

02:01:24.400 I thought it was because he's been in this battle of words with the Pope.

02:01:27.920 So I thought it was him showing, look, I am the new Pope in town.

02:01:31.920 And then when he said he was trying to be a doctor, really?

02:01:35.780 So I just think we have to handle all of this stuff with care.

02:01:38.640 I think when you start to bring the religious icons and the religious words into the political square as politicians,

02:01:46.820 you really run the risk of things not landing as they should.

02:01:51.620 Yeah, he and the Pope are in an ongoing battle now, battle of words back and forth.

02:01:57.160 And it's like, I realize Trump is always a counterpuncher.

02:01:59.460 The Pope attacked him first, but it's like, he's the Pope.

02:02:02.440 Just ignore him. 1.00

02:02:03.460 You know, like Catholics have learned to understand. 1.00

02:02:06.020 There's not everything about their church they agree with. 1.00

02:02:07.740 We certainly like a border, unlike our Pope.

02:02:11.180 And we love our Pope, but it doesn't mean like we don't, if he tells us the war is wrong,

02:02:16.320 we understand that's his position.

02:02:17.600 We'll make up our own minds politically about you and what you've done.

02:02:20.800 it doesn't really serve President Trump

02:02:22.740 to get into a tit-for-tat with-

02:02:24.380 Especially with the midterms.

02:02:25.340 I really wish that would stop, too.

02:02:26.660 Yeah, I agree.

02:02:27.220 Yeah.

02:02:28.340 Why?

02:02:28.820 Why alienate-

02:02:29.560 A huge base. 1.00

02:02:30.420 Catholics, you know?

02:02:31.740 Yeah, we're one-fifth of the population

02:02:33.300 and we tend to be more conservative in our thinking.

02:02:35.420 There's just no reason to do it.

02:02:36.540 Just ignore, ignore, rise above.

02:02:38.860 Britt, a pleasure, my friend.

02:02:40.040 Great to see you.

02:02:40.520 Always love this.

02:02:41.360 Thank you, Megan.

02:02:42.640 Oh, me too.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - April 16, 2026

The TRUTH About Kamala and Newsom, with Stephen A. Smith, Plus Hypocrite Meghan Markle and Chappelle, with Britt Mayer and Will Witt ｜ Ep. 1297

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