The Megyn Kelly Show - Thought Police and Censorship, and New Gender Surgery Guidance, with Laurence Fox and Father Calvin Robinson

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00:00:30.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:32.580 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:44.760 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:46.560 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:48.140 Today we are joined by two men fighting for free speech

00:00:51.540 and against the cultural drift we're seeing

00:00:54.680 across the pond in the UK.

00:00:56.420 Not to mention here in America.

00:00:58.200 You've seen them both right here on our show before

00:01:01.100 talking about the outrageous way they were treated

00:01:03.120 by the woke British media.

00:01:05.280 And now they are here together.

00:01:07.580 Lawrence Fox is the leader of the Reclaim Party.

00:01:11.120 He's a recovering actor as well.

00:01:12.560 You may know him from his many roles.

00:01:14.360 And Father Calvin Robinson is presenter

00:01:16.560 of Common Sense Crusade.

00:01:18.480 Together they host the newly launched show

00:01:21.720 Fox and Father, which is streaming on YouTube.

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00:01:57.240 Guys, welcome back to the show.

00:01:58.780 Thank you for having us.

00:01:59.640 It's great to be here.

00:02:00.580 Hey Megan, nice to see you again.

00:02:02.240 Okay, so this is, you've returned triumphant.

00:02:04.980 Not you, Father, but you, Lawrence,

00:02:06.720 with a middle finger up to all of those

00:02:09.520 who came for you and thought

00:02:12.600 that they had silenced you forever.

00:02:14.620 How does that feel?

00:02:15.300 The thing that makes me smile,

00:02:19.620 my beautiful missus always says to me,

00:02:23.040 smile, it really upsets people.

00:02:25.400 So the thing that makes me smile

00:02:27.820 is just don't give up, you know.

00:02:30.240 And when you enter into this sort of battle

00:02:32.680 and this war that we,

00:02:34.440 this cultural war that we fight

00:02:35.920 in England and in America,

00:02:38.140 you have to be willing to go all the way.

00:02:42.600 You can't surrender or back off or apologize.

00:02:45.840 So what's been great has been

00:02:47.840 the fact that Calvin and I,

00:02:49.740 both of us, I mean, tell me if I'm wrong,

00:02:52.240 but my frustration with British television

00:02:54.580 was the fact that you had to have someone on

00:02:56.860 who thought one thing

00:02:57.900 and then they just paid another person

00:02:59.340 to disagree with them.

00:03:00.900 And you never really got anywhere.

00:03:02.160 You just had a shouting match.

00:03:03.320 And that's what the off-communist,

00:03:05.040 as Dan has actually stolen off us, I reckon,

00:03:08.380 the regulator demands.

00:03:09.920 Whereas Calvin and I don't really agree on everything,

00:03:13.180 but we agree,

00:03:14.040 we have a core set of principles that we agree on

00:03:16.140 and we argue the detail.

00:03:17.420 And I think that that actually...

00:03:18.760 We have a proper conversation with some nuance.

00:03:20.820 Yeah.

00:03:21.080 You know, mainstream television these days is now,

00:03:23.160 they believe that,

00:03:24.120 other people believe that,

00:03:25.020 but it's on the extremities.

00:03:26.200 So if I want to talk about a life issue,

00:03:28.360 a pro-life issue,

00:03:29.180 I don't want to necessarily have someone

00:03:30.560 who's anti-life.

00:03:32.680 You know, I want to get into the nuance

00:03:34.140 of what it means to protect life,

00:03:35.660 what sanctity of life is.

00:03:37.100 We can't have those conversations

00:03:38.140 on the mainstream media.

00:03:38.960 So now we can.

00:03:40.460 I think pretty much it was just a case of...

00:03:42.060 Just to put a point on that,

00:03:43.600 I saw that the Ofcom,

00:03:45.040 the one who oversees the discussions

00:03:47.140 on British media,

00:03:48.260 they decided,

00:03:49.280 not in your favor, Lawrence,

00:03:50.500 on your scuffle on GB,

00:03:52.700 which we've talked about before,

00:03:53.880 where this woman was crapping

00:03:56.200 all over male suicides,

00:03:57.980 like,

00:03:58.240 that's not really my concern.

00:04:00.200 We don't need a minister of health

00:04:01.320 and kind of screw the men.

00:04:02.400 That was my takeaway of what she said.

00:04:04.060 And you were disgusted

00:04:05.260 and said to Dan Wooten, our pal,

00:04:06.620 well, who would want to shag that?

00:04:08.480 This woman, you know,

00:04:09.140 she looks bitter, blah, blah, blah.

00:04:10.520 And their findings,

00:04:11.940 ultimately, after their big investigation,

00:04:13.680 was, I remember one of them was,

00:04:16.180 the presenter really didn't take the other side.

00:04:19.960 They wanted Dan to be a gay man.

00:04:22.500 No, I would.

00:04:23.220 I would shag that in a minute.

00:04:24.660 Like, this is so absurd,

00:04:26.540 the place that we've gotten to,

00:04:27.900 especially in British media.

00:04:28.900 It really is.

00:04:31.000 I mean, Dan, bless him.

00:04:32.560 I, he, he, he actually,

00:04:34.740 the thing is,

00:04:35.680 it was such an enormous piece

00:04:37.660 of confected outrage from our side.

00:04:40.940 So the minute someone was in the little green room

00:04:44.360 and had decided that it was the world's worst thing

00:04:46.900 that had been said,

00:04:47.860 they organized their leftist pals to come after me.

00:04:51.340 And I still, to this day,

00:04:52.500 I mean, I don't know what you think,

00:04:53.960 dear old Calvin, by the way,

00:04:55.580 which is the thing that no one ever talks about.

00:04:58.700 It's debatable whether you should fire me

00:05:00.760 saying I don't want to shag someone.

00:05:01.900 I would have thought modern day feminists

00:05:03.520 would love the fact that men

00:05:04.620 wouldn't want to shag them.

00:05:06.100 But Calvin, sorry, Calvin.

00:05:07.420 Am I upsetting you already?

00:05:08.720 I'm not on there.

00:05:10.280 But Calvin, Calvin,

00:05:13.500 who is showing some moral leadership

00:05:15.660 and loyalty and all of these things,

00:05:17.860 it gets fired for standing behind,

00:05:20.360 up for his friends.

00:05:21.860 But none of it was to do with the law.

00:05:22.620 I know, whoever fires a priest, Calvin,

00:05:24.280 what happened?

00:05:24.860 I mean, like the priests don't get fired.

00:05:26.700 They don't get canceled.

00:05:28.340 Well, they do these days.

00:05:29.400 The problem was, Megan,

00:05:30.160 that they couldn't control us.

00:05:31.440 So they tried to silence us.

00:05:32.660 And that's why we've gone independent

00:05:33.640 because they can neither control

00:05:34.860 nor silence us now.

00:05:35.860 We've got our own platform.

00:05:37.020 Yeah.

00:05:37.700 And I'm sure.

00:05:38.420 So what's that like?

00:05:39.460 I mean, there aren't that many people

00:05:40.860 doing this in the UK.

00:05:42.860 There's a couple, but not many.

00:05:45.460 It's really good because it's,

00:05:47.660 as I sort of said at the beginning,

00:05:49.360 you know, we can talk about things

00:05:51.500 that are really difficult things to talk about.

00:05:54.780 Like abortion and IVF.

00:05:56.440 And we don't agree about these things and stuff,

00:05:58.840 you know, but they're really,

00:06:00.020 really difficult issues.

00:06:01.100 And you couldn't talk about that

00:06:02.280 on the mainstream media

00:06:03.180 because you'd have to have some sort of

00:06:04.780 screaming abortion fanatic on one side

00:06:07.060 and some sort of the conception

00:06:10.180 is the beginning of life on the other side.

00:06:12.340 And they just shout at each other.

00:06:13.340 So we actually try and get into

00:06:14.580 the nuts and bolts of it,

00:06:15.840 the ethical nuts and bolts of it.

00:06:16.980 And then Calvin tells me

00:06:17.880 why I'm a terrible Christian.

00:06:19.160 This is true.

00:06:20.180 I mean, not every conversation

00:06:21.260 needs balance, right?

00:06:22.280 Not every conversation needs

00:06:23.340 someone on the opposite end of the spectrum.

00:06:25.300 And we can get to the nitty gritty.

00:06:26.900 And actually, I think the reason people,

00:06:28.180 I think the reason people like Fox and Farber

00:06:30.080 is because it's just like two mates

00:06:31.560 chatting in the pub.

00:06:32.360 We're having the conversations

00:06:33.240 that everyone else is having

00:06:34.220 that they're not hearing

00:06:35.280 on the mainstream media

00:06:36.080 because you're not allowed to.

00:06:37.680 And we're just recording.

00:06:38.400 Well, especially because

00:06:39.120 the left already controls,

00:06:41.200 the left controls the BBC.

00:06:42.900 They control most of the media in the UK.

00:06:44.580 So it's very hard to even get

00:06:45.720 the right represented.

00:06:47.140 And they put little, you know,

00:06:48.760 straw men up in order to represent

00:06:50.600 the conservative response

00:06:52.320 to all of their arguments

00:06:53.480 and all of their editorial.

00:06:54.980 So why can't there just be

00:06:56.320 conservative commentary?

00:06:57.760 This is our response.

00:06:58.580 This is how we see the world.

00:06:59.820 It's wonderful that you found

00:07:01.060 a way to do it.

00:07:01.780 All right, no, wait, I want to ask.

00:07:03.340 Let's mention abortion.

00:07:04.680 Let's kick it off there.

00:07:05.400 So father, the the big father,

00:07:10.500 the pope has issued an edict

00:07:13.360 this week speaking about

00:07:16.020 the gender problem and saying

00:07:18.980 it's a no on gender ideology

00:07:22.200 and on the surgical transitioning

00:07:27.080 for kids and others.

00:07:30.160 And to me, this seems like

00:07:31.900 just sort of the written down version

00:07:33.340 of what he's been saying all along.

00:07:34.680 But it does for once and for all

00:07:37.700 answer the question of

00:07:38.620 is the pope Catholic?

00:07:39.840 The answer is yes.

00:07:40.680 This pope is, as it turns out, Catholic.

00:07:43.420 What do you make of it?

00:07:44.780 Well, that's always been

00:07:45.420 a rhetorical question, hasn't it?

00:07:46.680 Is the pope Catholic?

00:07:47.540 But in more recent years,

00:07:48.500 it's been a genuine question.

00:07:49.880 People have been quite concerned.

00:07:51.220 So it's good to see him coming out

00:07:52.480 with some sound doctrine

00:07:53.760 and saying, let's talk about

00:07:55.260 the dignity of human life.

00:07:56.920 And that means talking about abortion,

00:07:58.920 talking about end of life,

00:08:00.040 but also about the trans issue,

00:08:01.560 about the idea that we are made

00:08:03.200 in the image of God, Imago Dei.

00:08:05.120 And we cannot mutilate that image

00:08:06.620 because that's mutilating

00:08:07.640 the image of God himself

00:08:09.060 that we were made in,

00:08:10.240 the beauty that he designed us in.

00:08:12.180 And so a few months ago,

00:08:14.380 we saw the pope

00:08:15.040 bussing a load of transsexuals

00:08:17.260 into the Vatican to affirm them.

00:08:19.640 And so it's good to see

00:08:20.520 that actually that was

00:08:21.400 just a mission outreach,

00:08:22.760 probably,

00:08:23.280 because what he said today

00:08:24.500 or this week is that

00:08:25.420 there is no such thing as trans.

00:08:27.120 There's no such thing

00:08:27.620 as changing gender or sex.

00:08:29.500 And it's certainly not something

00:08:30.640 that should be done to children

00:08:31.680 because it's harmful

00:08:32.680 and it goes against

00:08:34.680 our very purpose.

00:08:37.140 And it's also what we've had

00:08:40.720 a report released in the UK today

00:08:42.280 called the Cass Report

00:08:43.140 by a woman called Hilary Cass,

00:08:45.640 which is really damning

00:08:46.940 about the transgender issue

00:08:49.040 and about transitioning children.

00:08:52.480 We ourselves,

00:08:53.620 one of the other things I do

00:08:54.780 is run a legal thing

00:08:55.800 and we're taking the government

00:08:56.960 to judicial review

00:08:58.020 over socially transitioning

00:08:59.580 children in school.

00:09:01.080 But I think the best point

00:09:02.220 that was made about transgenderism,

00:09:04.320 which I think is just Satanism

00:09:05.620 dressed up in nice words

00:09:06.920 and rainbow flags,

00:09:08.520 is what Graham Linehan said,

00:09:11.560 which is you can't,

00:09:13.220 if you tell a child

00:09:14.120 that they're born in the wrong body,

00:09:15.520 they'll believe you

00:09:16.080 because they're a child.

00:09:19.480 I mean, the Catholic teaching is clear

00:09:20.980 that we are a body

00:09:21.900 and we are a soul.

00:09:22.760 So you can no longer be

00:09:23.520 in the wrong body

00:09:24.460 as you can be in the wrong soul.

00:09:25.480 It's a logical fallacy.

00:09:26.480 It doesn't make any sense.

00:09:27.620 So for people to affirm that

00:09:28.780 is affirming lunacy,

00:09:29.980 really and truly.

00:09:32.180 Okay.

00:09:33.480 Sorry, I had somebody in my ear.

00:09:34.980 But I want to talk about the Cass Report

00:09:36.600 because this is big.

00:09:38.220 And in some areas,

00:09:39.100 the UK sees reason and light

00:09:40.840 before we do.

00:09:41.660 In some areas, they don't.

00:09:43.260 But I would say they're ahead of us

00:09:44.620 on recognizing the truth

00:09:46.700 about transing kids

00:09:48.140 and giving kids medicines,

00:09:50.860 puberty blockers,

00:09:51.660 cross-sex hormones, and so on.

00:09:52.980 This is big where now

00:09:55.780 the New York Times headline is

00:09:57.200 England Limits Youth Gender Medications,

00:10:00.140 part of big shift in Europe,

00:10:02.140 reporting that the National Health Service

00:10:03.820 in England

00:10:04.300 started restricting gender treatments

00:10:06.820 for children this month,

00:10:07.960 making it the fifth European country

00:10:09.340 to limit the medications

00:10:10.400 because of a lack of evidence

00:10:13.020 of their benefits

00:10:14.220 and concern

00:10:15.640 about long-term harms.

00:10:18.140 It's citing England's

00:10:20.540 Dr. Hillary Cass,

00:10:22.640 an independent pediatrician,

00:10:24.160 saying,

00:10:24.720 for most young people,

00:10:25.680 a medical pathway

00:10:26.480 will not be the best way

00:10:28.100 to manage their gender-related distress.

00:10:30.600 The NHS will no longer offer drugs

00:10:32.180 that block puberty,

00:10:33.620 except for those involved

00:10:34.620 in clinical research,

00:10:36.220 and recommending that hormones

00:10:38.000 like testosterone and estrogen

00:10:39.320 be prescribed to minors

00:10:41.060 only with extreme caution.

00:10:43.140 This follows the path

00:10:45.160 that Finland,

00:10:46.220 Sweden,

00:10:47.040 Norway,

00:10:47.600 and Denmark

00:10:48.460 have all taken.

00:10:49.360 You know who's not taken that

00:10:50.620 or even sniffed around it?

00:10:52.740 America.

00:10:53.800 The American Academy of Pediatrics

00:10:55.460 is still reaffirming

00:10:57.260 its endorsement of such care,

00:10:59.620 and I use that term in quotes,

00:11:01.340 stating that hormonal treatments

00:11:02.940 are essential.

00:11:04.560 They're essential

00:11:05.480 for these confused kids,

00:11:07.720 which just,

00:11:08.420 I mean,

00:11:08.720 to me,

00:11:09.220 is evil.

00:11:10.240 This is evil

00:11:10.820 what they're doing.

00:11:12.600 Yeah,

00:11:12.740 and this Cass report

00:11:13.380 is interesting

00:11:13.840 because she's not saying

00:11:14.720 actually puberty blockers

00:11:16.060 are good

00:11:16.380 or puberty blockers are bad.

00:11:17.560 She's saying

00:11:17.880 there's not enough research

00:11:19.040 on either side,

00:11:20.180 and if there's not enough evidence

00:11:21.300 on either side of that debate,

00:11:22.580 we shouldn't be giving

00:11:23.100 these things to children.

00:11:24.280 I think that's a good starting point,

00:11:26.280 but where we need to end up with

00:11:27.380 is that actually

00:11:28.280 these are the very same drugs

00:11:30.080 that Americans are giving

00:11:31.000 to pedophiles

00:11:31.700 in chemical castration.

00:11:33.140 Therefore,

00:11:33.460 why are we ever

00:11:34.480 giving them to children

00:11:35.560 and saying it's a medicine?

00:11:36.900 It's just abhorrent,

00:11:37.780 isn't it?

00:11:38.380 It is,

00:11:39.180 and what they're doing,

00:11:40.120 but what's so great about this

00:11:42.040 is it's now sparking

00:11:43.200 the next level of discussion,

00:11:44.680 which is

00:11:45.480 what else is happening

00:11:46.620 in schools?

00:11:47.760 These third-party providers

00:11:49.320 that they're called,

00:11:50.100 you know,

00:11:50.360 they're in British schools

00:11:51.980 instead of having

00:11:53.140 a national curriculum

00:11:53.920 where we teach,

00:11:55.160 you know,

00:11:55.560 kids about gender dysphoria

00:11:57.480 or other imagined

00:11:59.180 made-up madnesses,

00:12:00.940 you bring in third-party providers

00:12:02.980 like Stonewall

00:12:03.860 who did great work

00:12:06.120 in bringing about

00:12:08.120 equality for homosexuals

00:12:09.740 back in the day,

00:12:10.600 but now that they've solved

00:12:12.000 that problem,

00:12:12.620 they've had to come on

00:12:13.820 to the transing of the kids

00:12:14.820 and Alison Bailey,

00:12:16.060 who's a very important barrister

00:12:17.420 in the UK,

00:12:17.920 has been brilliant

00:12:19.120 in saying

00:12:20.100 we now need to turn around

00:12:21.200 and look at everything

00:12:22.860 that our children

00:12:24.000 are being taught

00:12:24.660 because for the state

00:12:25.780 to put its hand in

00:12:26.740 to a family

00:12:27.880 and to turn around

00:12:29.000 and say,

00:12:29.400 I'm going to let your child

00:12:30.820 pretend to be something

00:12:31.700 it's not

00:12:32.260 behind the parent's back

00:12:33.420 is about the most egregious

00:12:35.100 assault,

00:12:36.400 secular assault

00:12:37.120 on the sanctity

00:12:38.440 of what a family is

00:12:39.420 and a family

00:12:39.960 is the most important thing

00:12:41.040 that any of us

00:12:42.340 are going to grow up in,

00:12:43.180 broken or mended,

00:12:44.100 you know,

00:12:44.540 that is the most important thing

00:12:46.000 I'd say,

00:12:46.420 absolutely.

00:12:47.720 Well,

00:12:48.160 I love to see the progress

00:12:49.240 and I only hope and pray,

00:12:51.460 although we're working

00:12:52.080 toward it as well,

00:12:52.880 that we follow

00:12:53.980 because there's only so long

00:12:55.320 the United States

00:12:55.940 can ignore

00:12:56.760 our closest friends' behavior,

00:12:59.540 you know,

00:13:00.080 the UK

00:13:00.400 and all these other countries,

00:13:02.380 you know,

00:13:02.540 the Scandinavian countries

00:13:03.660 and others

00:13:04.000 who are doing real testing

00:13:05.460 on whether these treatments

00:13:07.620 help,

00:13:09.060 the answer's been no

00:13:09.860 and actually might hurt.

00:13:11.920 I mean,

00:13:12.140 they were talking about cancer,

00:13:13.720 about some of these

00:13:14.360 puberty blockers

00:13:15.020 actually raising the risk

00:13:16.680 of cancer,

00:13:17.660 these so-called

00:13:18.180 harmless puberty blockers

00:13:19.940 that are,

00:13:20.580 it's just a pause,

00:13:21.460 you know,

00:13:21.580 it's just a pause.

00:13:23.300 They're not telling parents

00:13:24.860 you're increasing

00:13:25.960 your child's risk

00:13:27.040 of dying of cancer.

00:13:28.960 I mean,

00:13:29.180 that's not a pause,

00:13:30.240 that's a permanent

00:13:30.920 life sentence.

00:13:33.280 It's,

00:13:33.900 some of the parents

00:13:35.200 that we're dealing with

00:13:36.500 in this judicial review,

00:13:38.340 that if you listen

00:13:39.360 to some of their testimony,

00:13:40.640 which I have,

00:13:41.720 it's absolutely heartbreaking

00:13:43.220 because most parents

00:13:44.400 really,

00:13:45.020 really,

00:13:45.380 really want their kids

00:13:46.840 to grow up as tolerant

00:13:48.040 and genuinely inclusive people

00:13:49.760 and they want people,

00:13:51.300 they want their kids

00:13:51.860 to understand that,

00:13:52.640 you know,

00:13:53.080 racism is bad

00:13:54.060 and homophobia is bad

00:13:55.260 and all this stuff

00:13:55.840 and they just missed out

00:13:57.660 the tea bit

00:13:58.420 and they thought

00:14:00.040 that their kids

00:14:00.580 were being taught

00:14:01.400 about,

00:14:02.140 you know,

00:14:02.540 genuinely including people

00:14:04.000 in a genuine way,

00:14:04.920 not in this woke way,

00:14:06.160 which means excluding people

00:14:07.600 and what they've found

00:14:09.680 is that they,

00:14:10.820 they're now,

00:14:11.960 one of the parents

00:14:13.020 we're dealing with

00:14:13.700 is son is due

00:14:14.720 to be castrated

00:14:15.480 in May

00:14:16.800 and it's just listening

00:14:19.020 to her speaking

00:14:20.160 about her own son

00:14:21.440 and how guilty

00:14:22.780 she feels about it.

00:14:24.580 So I would go

00:14:25.720 one step further

00:14:26.580 than there is no evidence

00:14:28.080 that,

00:14:28.800 you know,

00:14:29.060 any of this stuff was,

00:14:30.580 I don't think it's up

00:14:31.340 for discussion.

00:14:32.280 I'm in the Michael Knowles

00:14:33.680 category of looking

00:14:35.620 at the position we're in,

00:14:37.540 which is that

00:14:38.040 it's a real evil

00:14:39.480 and it needs to be undone

00:14:40.620 in the same way

00:14:41.340 that Mengele's work

00:14:42.500 needed to be undone

00:14:43.500 and I don't,

00:14:44.200 I'm not trying to be

00:14:44.880 too hard about it

00:14:45.760 but you don't cut

00:14:47.580 and injure children.

00:14:49.480 And you can see

00:14:49.900 it's an ideology

00:14:50.480 because almost

00:14:51.920 every single child

00:14:53.120 that went through

00:14:53.580 the Tavik Stott Clinic,

00:14:54.580 which was the main

00:14:55.260 gender clinic in the UK

00:14:56.500 until it got closed down

00:14:57.440 recently,

00:14:58.280 almost every single

00:14:59.320 one of them

00:14:59.960 ended up making

00:15:00.780 a life-changing decision,

00:15:02.220 whether that was drugs

00:15:02.920 or surgery.

00:15:04.220 None of them

00:15:04.880 went away thinking

00:15:05.860 actually this is just

00:15:06.460 a mental disorder

00:15:07.200 or I need some therapy

00:15:08.180 or I need some

00:15:08.640 therapeutic help.

00:15:09.640 It was all

00:15:10.460 life-changing decisions

00:15:11.480 which shows you

00:15:12.440 that this is being pushed

00:15:13.540 on these children

00:15:14.180 and they're not actually

00:15:15.120 being helped

00:15:15.660 in a way

00:15:15.960 that's good

00:15:16.700 for their health

00:15:17.280 or well-being.

00:15:18.160 It's deteriorating

00:15:19.100 their health.

00:15:20.340 Well,

00:15:20.880 and not only that,

00:15:21.680 but now you have parents

00:15:22.500 who think socially

00:15:23.780 transitioning their kids

00:15:24.880 is fine,

00:15:25.480 you know,

00:15:25.640 just letting them

00:15:26.320 cross-dress,

00:15:27.580 go by a different name

00:15:28.660 without understanding

00:15:29.640 that the vast majority

00:15:30.720 of those kids

00:15:31.320 will move on

00:15:32.260 to puberty blockers

00:15:33.260 and cross-sex hormones

00:15:35.000 and then you're done.

00:15:36.640 Then you've got,

00:15:37.440 and that's the other thing

00:15:38.020 that they just found

00:15:38.620 that puberty blockers alone

00:15:39.940 can raise one's risk

00:15:42.280 of fertility,

00:15:43.120 of infertility.

00:15:43.760 They did a test

00:15:45.060 on young boys

00:15:46.940 and testicular function

00:15:49.620 from the kids

00:15:50.900 who were given

00:15:51.240 just puberty blockers,

00:15:52.220 not estrogen,

00:15:53.580 and saw a real decrease

00:15:55.000 in potential fertility.

00:15:56.900 So none of this

00:15:57.780 gets disclosed.

00:15:58.680 In a way,

00:15:59.200 you guys were lucky

00:15:59.820 that you had Tavistock.

00:16:01.120 I know that sounds weird,

00:16:02.260 but it just,

00:16:03.360 it was so egregious,

00:16:04.940 people had to start

00:16:05.540 paying attention.

00:16:07.040 But even worse

00:16:07.560 than that, Megan,

00:16:08.060 even worse than parents

00:16:09.240 affirming their children

00:16:10.400 in this gender decision.

00:16:11.680 Right now in the UK,

00:16:12.580 we have,

00:16:12.860 the government said to schools,

00:16:13.960 you've got to stop this,

00:16:14.880 you've got to stop

00:16:15.280 transing children.

00:16:16.320 But schools are saying,

00:16:17.280 we're going to do it anyway.

00:16:18.340 And parents are finding out

00:16:19.500 at parents' evening

00:16:20.300 that teachers are calling

00:16:22.100 their young girl

00:16:23.220 a he.

00:16:24.040 They're not finding out

00:16:25.100 that it's,

00:16:25.700 they're finding out

00:16:26.260 at parents' evening

00:16:27.020 when it's been happening

00:16:27.600 for months

00:16:28.180 that the schools

00:16:29.280 are making unilateral decisions

00:16:31.020 about their children's health.

00:16:33.060 The parents aren't being informed,

00:16:34.200 consulted, advised,

00:16:35.320 and it's,

00:16:36.100 it's wicked.

00:16:37.700 Well, they should be,

00:16:39.160 they should be,

00:16:41.520 any sensible,

00:16:43.420 we've had a nominally

00:16:44.380 conservative

00:16:45.000 and name-only government

00:16:45.900 for the last 14 years

00:16:47.080 in this country,

00:16:48.140 that I was,

00:16:49.080 we were talking earlier

00:16:49.960 and I'm of the view

00:16:51.100 that if that's happening,

00:16:53.280 that what should happen

00:16:54.700 immediately

00:16:55.200 is that school

00:16:55.720 should be closed

00:16:56.500 and the head teacher

00:16:58.120 of that school

00:16:58.600 should be taken publicly

00:16:59.760 in view of the parents

00:17:01.200 into a police van

00:17:02.520 and taken to a police station

00:17:04.060 and investigated

00:17:05.180 and charged

00:17:06.760 with child abuse

00:17:07.580 because that's what it is.

00:17:09.020 They're going against parents,

00:17:09.980 going against the state,

00:17:10.860 going against medical advice,

00:17:12.080 going against the reports,

00:17:13.500 because they believe in it.

00:17:14.940 Ideological insanity.

00:17:16.560 I agree.

00:17:17.320 And it's part of social transition.

00:17:18.740 So you're allowing,

00:17:19.900 the school

00:17:20.600 is making a decision

00:17:21.480 for the parents

00:17:22.120 about allowing

00:17:22.960 social transition

00:17:24.140 to begin,

00:17:25.340 which,

00:17:25.840 as I just pointed out,

00:17:26.740 in overwhelming numbers

00:17:27.620 of cases

00:17:28.000 will lead to blockers

00:17:29.460 and cross-sex hormones.

00:17:31.060 And you know what?

00:17:31.800 You've just sterilized

00:17:33.040 your child.

00:17:33.860 Good luck.

00:17:34.780 Thanks,

00:17:35.540 guidance counselor,

00:17:36.920 who has maybe

00:17:38.020 a four-year degree

00:17:39.040 and almost no

00:17:40.120 psychiatric training.

00:17:41.320 It's completely irresponsible.

00:17:43.440 All right.

00:17:43.620 Now, one thing I wanted to say

00:17:44.740 as we zoom back

00:17:45.840 is it's a very good thing

00:17:47.560 you two deeply offensive men

00:17:49.200 did not make your remarks

00:17:51.240 in Scotland,

00:17:52.760 right?

00:17:53.700 Because,

00:17:54.440 as you know,

00:17:55.480 you could go to jail now

00:17:57.380 for insulting someone

00:17:59.440 over there,

00:18:00.060 which is kind of,

00:18:00.820 you know,

00:18:01.060 all three of our

00:18:01.660 bread and butter

00:18:02.160 these days.

00:18:03.020 So what do you make

00:18:04.120 of the insane

00:18:05.460 new Scottish law

00:18:06.940 against alleged

00:18:08.160 hate speech?

00:18:10.140 The truth is offensive

00:18:11.600 and people don't want

00:18:12.500 to be offended.

00:18:13.360 We've gotten to a point

00:18:14.080 now where it's happening

00:18:15.000 so fast that 1984

00:18:16.120 is becoming a reality.

00:18:17.920 Fort police,

00:18:19.040 word police,

00:18:19.960 language police.

00:18:20.840 In Scotland,

00:18:22.120 if I was to read

00:18:23.240 from the gospel

00:18:23.920 in my own home

00:18:25.160 and someone was in my house

00:18:26.620 and found it offensive,

00:18:27.680 they could report me

00:18:28.460 to the police.

00:18:29.440 But for offending them

00:18:30.720 by speaking my truth,

00:18:32.400 by living my faith.

00:18:33.880 I don't know how

00:18:34.660 we've gotten to this point

00:18:35.460 that we're asking people

00:18:37.280 to dob in people

00:18:38.620 that are saying something

00:18:39.300 that could potentially

00:18:40.020 hurt feelings.

00:18:40.900 It doesn't matter

00:18:41.320 if it's true.

00:18:42.120 It doesn't matter

00:18:42.640 what the ideology is.

00:18:44.120 It's if you're hurting

00:18:44.900 someone's feelings.

00:18:46.040 But that's a decision.

00:18:47.420 You take the choice

00:18:48.360 to be offended.

00:18:49.460 Even if I may not

00:18:50.920 be choosing to offend you,

00:18:51.840 you may be choosing

00:18:52.560 to take offense

00:18:53.380 from what I'm saying,

00:18:54.120 but you can still

00:18:54.680 get arrested for it.

00:18:56.220 And the funniest part

00:18:58.000 of the whole thing

00:18:58.620 is that in the first week

00:19:00.120 of hate crime reporting,

00:19:01.800 there were over,

00:19:03.240 I think,

00:19:03.420 8,000 reports

00:19:04.580 of hate crimes

00:19:05.300 and 4,000 of them

00:19:06.700 were aimed at the racist

00:19:07.980 in my view.

00:19:09.280 Does that cover me?

00:19:09.960 That's interesting.

00:19:10.560 There were 8,000 complaints

00:19:11.900 complaints when you said

00:19:13.120 what you said on GB News.

00:19:15.180 We must be speaking

00:19:16.160 to the same audience.

00:19:17.580 The same people.

00:19:19.080 The guy who's in charge,

00:19:21.100 Hamza Youssef,

00:19:22.160 who I think is a,

00:19:23.460 you know,

00:19:23.820 he's famous for doing

00:19:25.080 this video where he goes,

00:19:26.480 Scotland is like 98%

00:19:28.360 white people.

00:19:29.520 And he's famous

00:19:30.420 for doing this video

00:19:31.080 going,

00:19:31.800 there's no one who,

00:19:32.700 everyone is white.

00:19:34.060 He's white.

00:19:34.920 The prime minister's white.

00:19:36.380 And it's just a racist rant.

00:19:37.840 So in the first week

00:19:39.120 of hate crime reporting,

00:19:41.900 he was the most reported

00:19:43.280 hate crimer.

00:19:44.220 Oh, I love that.

00:19:44.940 The guy that brought it in.

00:19:47.340 It's beyond insane.

00:19:49.840 Scotland's like

00:19:50.480 William Wallace,

00:19:51.840 Braveheart,

00:19:53.240 you know,

00:19:53.780 it's known for its toughness.

00:19:55.320 The UK in general,

00:19:56.380 stiff upper lip.

00:19:57.280 Whatever happened

00:19:57.780 to stiff upper lip?

00:19:59.420 Whatever happened

00:20:00.180 to courage?

00:20:01.380 Like,

00:20:01.880 this is what I want to know.

00:20:02.940 We talked about

00:20:03.660 the gender stuff

00:20:04.460 and it's like,

00:20:05.080 where were the dads?

00:20:06.760 Where were the fathers

00:20:08.140 sitting there

00:20:08.900 and walking into school

00:20:09.780 and saying,

00:20:10.260 what are you teaching my,

00:20:11.360 what are you teaching

00:20:12.160 my daughter or my son?

00:20:13.420 What are you doing?

00:20:14.740 And, you know,

00:20:15.440 and in the same case,

00:20:16.580 we've got this in this hate,

00:20:17.600 in this hate crime legislation.

00:20:19.100 It's like,

00:20:19.740 where are the people

00:20:20.940 just turning around

00:20:22.200 and saying,

00:20:22.880 absolutely not.

00:20:23.800 William Wallace

00:20:24.200 would be turning in his grave.

00:20:25.420 Well, they trick you

00:20:25.860 because they paint it

00:20:26.600 as a good thing.

00:20:27.220 They say it's there

00:20:27.660 to protect minority groups,

00:20:29.460 right?

00:20:29.740 But there's no protection

00:20:30.720 for women in this,

00:20:31.840 in this new law.

00:20:32.540 If you're misogynistic,

00:20:33.400 it doesn't matter.

00:20:34.500 What they say

00:20:35.180 is a protection

00:20:35.760 for the trans community

00:20:37.280 and what that means is

00:20:38.280 that you must go along

00:20:39.680 with the new orthodoxy.

00:20:40.660 You must subscribe

00:20:41.420 to the approved narrative

00:20:42.600 and if you don't,

00:20:43.220 we'll clamp down on you.

00:20:44.380 It's a law to punish those

00:20:46.220 who aren't woke.

00:20:47.640 Yeah.

00:20:48.040 Are you guys,

00:20:49.400 in the minute we have left,

00:20:50.740 are you getting a lot of,

00:20:52.360 as you now walk around the streets,

00:20:54.000 free men?

00:20:55.980 Thank you,

00:20:56.660 thank you,

00:20:57.140 thank you

00:20:57.540 for saying all the things.

00:20:59.560 Are we,

00:21:00.160 yeah,

00:21:00.440 I get,

00:21:01.660 a lot of people

00:21:02.460 are very,

00:21:03.080 very nice to me

00:21:03.740 in the street

00:21:04.180 and stop me

00:21:05.720 and that does make it better.

00:21:07.200 But I don't feel safe

00:21:08.160 in this city

00:21:09.820 I live in.

00:21:11.080 I think this city is

00:21:12.320 completely,

00:21:13.320 has been captured

00:21:14.180 by a very,

00:21:15.140 very nasty man,

00:21:16.940 Sadiq Khan.

00:21:17.640 So hopefully

00:21:18.100 he will be gone

00:21:19.340 as mayor,

00:21:20.120 but I doubt he will be.

00:21:21.400 But yeah,

00:21:21.720 I get a little love.

00:21:22.600 You do take that.

00:21:23.220 It's absolutely lovely.

00:21:23.940 It really is.

00:21:24.300 People say,

00:21:24.740 thank you for saying

00:21:25.420 what I'm thinking

00:21:26.200 because people want to hear

00:21:27.640 their own thoughts

00:21:28.540 and opinions

00:21:28.920 on the public square too

00:21:29.880 and they don't hear them

00:21:30.540 very often

00:21:30.880 because the rest of the media

00:21:31.940 is controlled

00:21:32.580 in this country.

00:21:33.600 So this is why

00:21:34.000 we do what we do,

00:21:34.580 right?

00:21:34.980 Yes,

00:21:35.380 my brother.

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00:22:34.200 All right, guys.

00:22:40.220 So what is the level

00:22:41.020 of interest over there

00:22:42.420 in this crazy

00:22:44.240 presidential election

00:22:45.340 we're going to have here

00:22:46.380 in seven months?

00:22:47.400 Do people care

00:22:47.960 about Trump v. Biden?

00:22:50.260 Yeah.

00:22:50.900 I mean, I do.

00:22:51.800 I'm obsessed.

00:22:53.040 I'm obsessed.

00:22:54.260 I think most people

00:22:55.040 in Britain look to America

00:22:56.020 to see, you know,

00:22:56.940 the old adage

00:22:57.900 of America sneezes,

00:22:59.740 Britain gets a cold.

00:23:00.900 So, you know,

00:23:02.620 it does.

00:23:03.160 I know that boring

00:23:04.360 old adage of

00:23:05.500 it's the most important

00:23:06.380 election ever,

00:23:07.060 but it really does seem

00:23:08.200 to be very,

00:23:09.620 very important

00:23:10.120 because Biden

00:23:10.700 is standing for

00:23:11.460 everything wrong

00:23:12.180 in the world

00:23:12.740 and Trump

00:23:13.640 is not a politician

00:23:14.460 and that is what's

00:23:15.600 so lovely,

00:23:16.160 just to have a non-politician,

00:23:17.620 a human being,

00:23:18.340 trying to run a country,

00:23:19.300 whether you like him or not.

00:23:20.520 Yeah, I think it's quite serious.

00:23:21.640 I think this is make or break.

00:23:23.160 I see the old Christendom

00:23:25.480 crumbling around us.

00:23:26.460 The West in general

00:23:27.380 is failing, falling.

00:23:29.360 Europe is almost gone.

00:23:31.100 America, I really think,

00:23:32.200 will be the last stand

00:23:32.960 for Christendom.

00:23:33.600 It will be the place

00:23:34.420 where the last fight

00:23:35.760 is held for what we now know

00:23:37.580 as civil or core civilization.

00:23:39.680 And a lot of that depends

00:23:40.640 on who's elected

00:23:41.280 in this next election.

00:23:42.300 If it is Donald Trump,

00:23:43.580 there's a fighting chance.

00:23:44.640 If it's Joe Biden,

00:23:46.240 all hell could break loose.

00:23:47.660 I know you're seeing

00:23:49.880 the erosion of public displays

00:23:52.700 of faith in the UK,

00:23:54.520 same as we've been seeing

00:23:55.700 over here for years.

00:23:57.060 So I heard you guys

00:23:57.700 talking about how

00:23:58.520 there were no public

00:23:59.460 real acknowledgements

00:24:00.940 or celebrations of Lent

00:24:02.020 and yet any other holiday

00:24:05.700 gets celebrated openly

00:24:06.700 and with vigour.

00:24:08.980 Well, they're doing it.

00:24:09.920 In the last two days,

00:24:11.420 we've had the call to prayer

00:24:12.600 on just outside Parliament

00:24:15.000 and we've had the call to prayer

00:24:16.640 inside cathedrals

00:24:17.880 and we've had the call to prayer

00:24:19.220 just today inside Buckingham Palace.

00:24:22.880 So it's, look,

00:24:25.040 Calvin and I disagree

00:24:26.100 on all of this stuff

00:24:27.360 because I'm like, you know,

00:24:29.220 Muslims and Christians

00:24:30.080 are going to have to learn

00:24:31.060 to live together

00:24:31.600 and there are a lot of morally

00:24:32.720 and ethically sound Muslims

00:24:34.640 as well as there are Christians.

00:24:36.140 Calvin's less.

00:24:37.500 This is a Christian country, Megan, right?

00:24:39.540 We have a Christian head of state

00:24:41.140 who's the Supreme Governor

00:24:42.080 of the Church of England.

00:24:43.680 Our faith is built

00:24:44.620 into every institution in the land

00:24:46.060 from the military

00:24:46.660 to the legislative

00:24:47.520 to the jurisdictions.

00:24:48.920 Everything is Christian

00:24:49.900 by default.

00:24:52.020 And therefore,

00:24:53.020 our king,

00:24:54.060 our head of state

00:24:54.900 should be sticking to his role

00:24:56.600 as defender of the faith.

00:24:58.320 And if he truly believes

00:24:59.880 that Jesus Christ

00:25:01.080 is our Lord and Saviour,

00:25:02.020 if he truly believes

00:25:03.000 there's one way to heaven,

00:25:04.120 which is repentance of sin,

00:25:05.740 baptism in water

00:25:06.480 and the Holy Spirit

00:25:07.080 and faith in Jesus Christ,

00:25:08.400 if he believes that

00:25:09.460 and he loves his neighbour,

00:25:11.240 he should be encouraging

00:25:12.800 our Muslim neighbours

00:25:14.240 to find Jesus Christ.

00:25:15.600 Not saying,

00:25:16.500 happy Eid Mabarak

00:25:17.960 or, you know,

00:25:18.640 come and say your Muslim prayers

00:25:19.980 in the palace.

00:25:21.040 It's wrong

00:25:21.880 because he's leading souls

00:25:22.780 to damnation.

00:25:23.740 The same can be said

00:25:24.580 for our Prime Minister.

00:25:25.720 The same can be said

00:25:26.320 for our Houses of Parliament.

00:25:27.900 All of this encouraging

00:25:29.120 of the Mohammedan faith

00:25:30.480 is actually harmful

00:25:31.900 to their souls.

00:25:32.940 It's not nice.

00:25:33.780 It's not kind.

00:25:34.600 It's not welcoming.

00:25:35.800 It's leading souls

00:25:36.760 to damnation.

00:25:37.800 See, this is where

00:25:38.360 I disagree with Calvin.

00:25:39.700 I really disagree with him

00:25:41.180 on this thing.

00:25:42.460 I'm just like,

00:25:43.440 there are loads of nice,

00:25:45.440 moderate,

00:25:46.520 ethically brilliant

00:25:47.560 Muslim people in this world.

00:25:48.880 Sure, but therefore

00:25:49.460 you want them to go to heaven.

00:25:50.420 You want them to know

00:25:50.860 Jesus Christ.

00:25:52.120 They do know Jesus Christ.

00:25:54.120 They do.

00:25:54.660 They believe in Jesus Christ,

00:25:55.800 don't they?

00:25:56.200 They don't.

00:25:56.720 Anyway, I just think,

00:25:57.680 I'm not sure,

00:25:58.820 in the same way as like

00:25:59.900 when Trump today

00:26:00.780 did his bit, right,

00:26:01.940 and he was talking

00:26:02.540 about abortion,

00:26:03.560 that he knows

00:26:04.900 that he can't say,

00:26:06.500 I'm going to do

00:26:07.380 a heartbeat bill

00:26:08.160 or I'm going to do this

00:26:09.000 because he knows

00:26:09.700 he's not going to get elected

00:26:10.640 if he does that.

00:26:12.300 So you have to,

00:26:13.300 we have to find a way

00:26:14.520 of communicating,

00:26:16.520 compromising,

00:26:17.180 not the truth, Cal.

00:26:18.380 It sounds like you're saying

00:26:19.260 we should compromise.

00:26:19.880 No, I'm saying

00:26:20.820 we need to find a way

00:26:21.900 of speaking with people

00:26:23.600 who don't share our faith

00:26:25.800 and understanding

00:26:26.680 what the boundaries are

00:26:27.660 between us.

00:26:28.840 I would say

00:26:29.260 a clear boundary

00:26:30.240 is not having people

00:26:32.320 call to prayer

00:26:34.880 in a Catholic cathedral,

00:26:37.000 the Houses of Parliament,

00:26:37.960 and Bookingham Palace.

00:26:38.780 To me,

00:26:39.120 that's a boundary

00:26:39.620 that's being crossed.

00:26:40.060 I agree with you on that.

00:26:41.060 Okay.

00:26:41.620 So we agree on that.

00:26:42.360 Let me ask you

00:26:43.460 on this same front,

00:26:44.920 very interesting.

00:26:46.380 I read this

00:26:47.040 with my first guest,

00:26:48.360 Victor Davis Hanson,

00:26:49.140 today.

00:26:51.120 There's a burgeoning debate

00:26:53.200 on the right

00:26:54.200 here in the States

00:26:55.540 about

00:26:56.620 kind of

00:26:57.820 this same issue.

00:27:00.660 It's come up

00:27:01.460 in the context of Israel

00:27:02.340 where

00:27:03.380 some of the more

00:27:04.380 isolationists

00:27:05.380 are saying,

00:27:07.280 eh,

00:27:07.840 sorry,

00:27:08.440 this happened to you,

00:27:09.620 but

00:27:09.800 we're kind of out.

00:27:12.180 We've got our own problems

00:27:13.140 to worry about,

00:27:13.800 a lot of them,

00:27:14.980 and we can't really

00:27:16.000 help you that much,

00:27:17.520 and we actually

00:27:17.940 kind of don't want

00:27:18.660 to get involved

00:27:19.120 in this nightmare

00:27:20.000 morass that's over there.

00:27:21.720 So good luck to you,

00:27:22.640 but we're out.

00:27:23.580 And that's spun into

00:27:25.180 like an interfaith battle

00:27:28.180 where some are saying

00:27:30.200 affirmatively

00:27:30.900 to Jewish people,

00:27:33.240 Christ is king,

00:27:34.080 which,

00:27:35.420 like the Muslims,

00:27:36.480 Jewish people

00:27:36.880 do not believe,

00:27:37.860 right?

00:27:38.100 They think Jesus

00:27:38.800 was just a man,

00:27:40.260 wasn't Christ,

00:27:42.080 and Jews feeling like,

00:27:44.160 whoa, whoa,

00:27:44.680 you know,

00:27:44.880 like,

00:27:45.700 okay,

00:27:46.360 you have your belief,

00:27:47.240 we have ours,

00:27:48.020 but why is that coming in

00:27:50.300 to contest support

00:27:52.000 for Israel

00:27:52.740 in this attack

00:27:54.120 that was launched

00:27:54.820 on them?

00:27:55.540 And I'm seeing it

00:27:56.760 divide

00:27:57.480 people I

00:27:58.860 really like

00:28:00.080 and respect

00:28:00.540 and,

00:28:01.040 you know,

00:28:01.340 have a lot of fondness

00:28:02.300 for on both sides

00:28:03.920 of this

00:28:04.360 intra-GOP battle.

00:28:06.940 So how do you guys,

00:28:07.860 you must have heard

00:28:08.400 about this,

00:28:08.860 what do you make of it?

00:28:10.500 Well,

00:28:10.960 Coleman Hughes

00:28:12.240 was on Joe Rogan

00:28:14.060 and he was really good

00:28:15.400 and he's a really

00:28:16.340 wonderful thinker.

00:28:18.460 And he made that point,

00:28:19.960 which is like,

00:28:20.500 why are we picking

00:28:21.420 at Israel

00:28:22.280 for the civilian

00:28:24.720 to military

00:28:27.160 or to terrorist

00:28:28.400 kill ratio

00:28:29.600 where we don't do

00:28:30.700 that in Ukraine

00:28:31.240 and we don't do

00:28:31.840 that anywhere else.

00:28:32.740 So for me,

00:28:33.900 I think that

00:28:35.440 it smacks

00:28:37.120 of a double standard

00:28:39.020 in the way

00:28:40.060 that we look

00:28:40.560 at the Jewish people.

00:28:42.560 And also,

00:28:43.420 I've just got this

00:28:44.000 really old-fashioned

00:28:45.140 view of the world,

00:28:46.640 which is that

00:28:47.600 there are not that many

00:28:48.760 Jewish people

00:28:49.280 on this planet.

00:28:50.060 They've done a great deal

00:28:50.800 of good

00:28:51.260 and they're under threat

00:28:53.160 whenever something bad

00:28:54.660 starts happening in society.

00:28:55.860 It's the Jews

00:28:56.320 that get it first.

00:28:57.500 So I feel that we

00:28:58.300 have a moral

00:28:59.240 responsibility

00:29:00.240 to look after

00:29:01.140 what is a genuinely

00:29:02.100 oppressed minority.

00:29:03.380 Now, they are a very

00:29:04.060 well-armed,

00:29:04.840 genuinely oppressed minority.

00:29:07.020 But, you know,

00:29:07.600 Calvin made a point

00:29:08.920 earlier before we were talking.

00:29:10.360 Sorry, this is a slight segue.

00:29:12.000 We were talking about

00:29:12.940 the Rihanna Nunn thing,

00:29:14.460 you know,

00:29:14.780 this constant winding up

00:29:15.980 of Christians

00:29:16.440 that is going on.

00:29:17.640 And he said that

00:29:18.560 if you look at the designer,

00:29:19.620 the photographer,

00:29:20.200 who else?

00:29:20.700 And the producer, I think.

00:29:21.420 And the producer,

00:29:22.040 they were all Jewish people.

00:29:24.040 So there is...

00:29:25.720 She was on

00:29:26.560 Interview Magazine

00:29:27.900 in an...

00:29:28.980 I'll show it.

00:29:30.640 She had dressed like a nun.

00:29:32.140 Like a sexy nun.

00:29:34.540 Which is...

00:29:35.400 Newsflash.

00:29:35.900 Not a thing, Rihanna.

00:29:37.760 Yeah, you can see a boo.

00:29:38.640 It's just mockery of the faith,

00:29:39.680 isn't it?

00:29:39.940 It kind of is a thing.

00:29:41.060 Sorry to say so.

00:29:42.920 What?

00:29:43.100 Sorry, Father.

00:29:44.320 Sorry, Father.

00:29:44.800 Sexy nun.

00:29:45.480 That's like a...

00:29:46.120 Come on, Megan.

00:29:46.720 Naughty Halloween thing.

00:29:47.640 I mean, you can do naughty

00:29:48.280 anything at Halloween.

00:29:49.280 But no, that's...

00:29:50.480 What naughty nuns are there?

00:29:52.580 I don't know.

00:29:53.280 I think there are...

00:29:54.600 There are...

00:29:55.560 It is a trope.

00:29:57.800 It's a clear mockery of the faith.

00:29:59.100 For me,

00:30:00.280 I get the American first thing.

00:30:01.600 I really do.

00:30:01.980 I think British politicians

00:30:03.240 should be Britain first.

00:30:04.460 But then after that,

00:30:05.920 the consideration is wider.

00:30:07.520 And what we're seeing is

00:30:08.360 the Islamic faith

00:30:09.880 is actually anti-Western,

00:30:11.800 anti-Christian,

00:30:12.920 you know,

00:30:13.060 it's anti-women,

00:30:14.240 anti-homosexual,

00:30:15.000 anti-everything,

00:30:15.700 but in a very harmful way,

00:30:17.380 as in, you know,

00:30:17.800 let's make sure that women

00:30:18.620 cover their entire bodies

00:30:19.520 except for their eyes

00:30:20.480 and let's not let them drive

00:30:21.600 and let's stone homosexuals to death

00:30:23.400 if not push them off roofs.

00:30:24.520 Like, it's very against

00:30:25.780 our way of life.

00:30:27.360 But people would rather side with that

00:30:29.400 because they hate the Jews so much.

00:30:31.940 They would rather side

00:30:33.160 with a terrorist organization

00:30:34.800 such as Hamas

00:30:35.640 than say anything

00:30:37.340 that's remotely pro-Israel

00:30:38.960 because they don't want to be seen

00:30:39.880 as a Zionist.

00:30:40.640 They hate the Jewish people

00:30:42.340 with a passion.

00:30:43.260 And I'm seeing that on the left,

00:30:44.320 but also on the right.

00:30:45.880 And I think Megan's right

00:30:46.680 that it's becoming so divisive.

00:30:48.220 And I think it's by design.

00:30:49.740 We saw this over here with Brexit.

00:30:51.640 We saw it with COVID lockdowns,

00:30:53.420 with the vaccines,

00:30:54.740 with the Ukraine and Russia,

00:30:56.180 and now with Israel and Palestine.

00:30:57.760 This seems to be,

00:30:58.680 over the last five to 10 years,

00:31:00.600 a big issue every few months

00:31:02.900 that is purposefully set

00:31:04.560 to divide and conquer

00:31:05.760 the public,

00:31:07.040 the general populace.

00:31:07.860 So we're all fighting

00:31:08.640 amongst ourselves.

00:31:09.660 But in terms of the right,

00:31:10.760 so in terms of people

00:31:11.700 that have sort of

00:31:12.320 centre-right leaning,

00:31:13.180 what about why would they

00:31:16.900 suddenly now turn on Israel?

00:31:18.400 Because it's like Tucker's

00:31:19.440 doing it a little bit today.

00:31:20.900 I mean, he's being accused

00:31:22.020 of doing it.

00:31:22.460 I don't think that's what he's doing.

00:31:23.720 I think he's just trying to

00:31:24.460 offer an alternate perspective.

00:31:26.380 But why is,

00:31:27.820 because it is true,

00:31:28.660 Megan's right,

00:31:29.520 we have had in our lives,

00:31:31.620 in this most recent

00:31:33.100 iteration of the catastrophe

00:31:34.260 that is the ongoing clown world,

00:31:36.880 this sudden separation

00:31:38.580 and people are flying off

00:31:39.560 to criticise Israel.

00:31:40.880 For what I can see

00:31:43.280 there's no reason.

00:31:44.300 1,300 people were massacred.

00:31:46.160 It's like you started it, mate.

00:31:47.860 We have to get rid of you.

00:31:49.160 That's what happens.

00:31:49.840 And to add to that,

00:31:51.140 there's a fair amount,

00:31:52.080 you know,

00:31:52.340 using the Christ is King,

00:31:54.080 you know,

00:31:55.980 slogan saying

00:31:57.120 in justification

00:31:58.920 of their actions,

00:32:00.800 which to me,

00:32:01.600 I've never seen this

00:32:02.320 in my lifetime.

00:32:03.020 I'm 53 years old.

00:32:04.060 I've never seen

00:32:04.800 Christians kind of

00:32:06.400 throwing down against Jews

00:32:07.940 as you're non-believers,

00:32:09.840 you're only going to get

00:32:11.240 so much of our support.

00:32:13.340 You know,

00:32:13.580 we don't see you as an ally

00:32:14.820 because of the whole

00:32:15.720 was he Christ

00:32:17.040 or just a man thing.

00:32:18.120 This is new to me.

00:32:19.120 What do you make of it, Father?

00:32:20.040 I mean,

00:32:20.200 this is like your business.

00:32:22.060 Yeah,

00:32:22.320 I think I've got some nuance

00:32:23.620 in that

00:32:23.860 because I think Christ is King

00:32:25.300 and I don't think

00:32:26.160 we should ever be ashamed

00:32:26.800 of saying that.

00:32:27.520 And I think what I worry about now

00:32:29.420 is that that's being painted

00:32:30.800 as an anti-Semitic slur

00:32:32.040 and then people are being discouraged

00:32:33.500 from saying it.

00:32:34.280 So there's an element

00:32:34.820 of anti-Christian sentiment

00:32:36.940 being brought about

00:32:38.160 by this movement as well.

00:32:39.560 And I think that's partly

00:32:40.420 from the hard left

00:32:41.200 who don't want us

00:32:41.960 proclaiming that Christ is King.

00:32:43.080 So we should always

00:32:43.540 be proclaiming that.

00:32:44.400 But of course,

00:32:44.740 we're never doing it

00:32:45.440 to antagonize anyone

00:32:46.640 or to be anti-Semitic.

00:32:48.960 And that's when the problem comes in.

00:32:50.300 So we've got to always

00:32:51.300 keep that in mind.

00:32:53.100 It's morphed into like a,

00:32:54.900 you know,

00:32:55.720 I said this the other day,

00:32:56.620 but like giants suck.

00:32:58.260 You know,

00:32:58.600 it's morphed into

00:33:00.060 sort of a team.

00:33:01.540 You know,

00:33:02.120 if you say it aggressively

00:33:03.160 to a Muslim

00:33:04.340 or to a Jew,

00:33:05.780 it has a different meaning

00:33:07.120 than if you're

00:33:08.240 at Sunday mass,

00:33:10.180 you know,

00:33:10.500 saying it out loud.

00:33:11.440 And I don't know.

00:33:12.120 I just,

00:33:12.420 I feel uncomfortable

00:33:12.920 with the whole thing.

00:33:14.720 You can absolutely say

00:33:16.360 they lost me.

00:33:17.920 They went too far.

00:33:18.860 There are too many civilians dead.

00:33:20.300 And I did want

00:33:21.220 a more proportionate response.

00:33:22.660 And I don't like Netanyahu

00:33:24.060 and America's got other problems.

00:33:25.980 All of that is totally

00:33:26.900 within the fair line

00:33:28.220 of criticism and all that.

00:33:29.920 But when you cross over

00:33:31.660 to like the Jews,

00:33:34.240 the Jews are the problem,

00:33:35.660 the damn Jews,

00:33:37.140 like we're hearing

00:33:38.240 more and more of that.

00:33:39.860 It's kind of scaring me.

00:33:42.340 Well,

00:33:42.380 there are a lot of old conspiracies.

00:33:43.520 I think we've had so many years

00:33:45.020 of not trusting the elites

00:33:46.320 because we've seen them

00:33:47.100 lie to our face so many times.

00:33:48.760 Again,

00:33:48.980 COVID's a great example of that

00:33:50.180 with the lockdown,

00:33:50.800 the vaccines,

00:33:51.340 the mandates and all of that,

00:33:52.540 that we don't trust

00:33:53.340 anybody anymore.

00:33:54.100 So we're latching on

00:33:54.920 to every conspiracy

00:33:55.860 as if it's true.

00:33:57.240 But do you think

00:33:57.580 there's also an element

00:33:58.740 of the fact

00:33:59.440 as there must have been

00:34:00.400 during,

00:34:01.080 you know,

00:34:01.300 in the build up

00:34:01.800 to the Second World War

00:34:02.660 where the Jews

00:34:03.860 were blamed for everything.

00:34:05.000 But it was actually

00:34:05.800 the reparations plan

00:34:07.220 put in place by America.

00:34:09.380 Sorry,

00:34:09.720 America.

00:34:11.000 And I'm not sure

00:34:12.840 how much the UK paid,

00:34:14.800 you know,

00:34:15.280 impoverished Germany.

00:34:17.020 And what Hitler did

00:34:18.160 was he used

00:34:19.660 the impoverishment

00:34:20.520 of Germany

00:34:21.180 to blame the Jews.

00:34:22.840 Whereas,

00:34:23.140 so he sort of ignored

00:34:24.220 the elephant in the room.

00:34:25.560 Whereas what's happening now

00:34:27.100 is we know

00:34:28.120 that this culture,

00:34:29.200 Britain and America

00:34:30.680 has seen uncontrolled

00:34:32.320 and unfettered immigration

00:34:33.280 under Biden

00:34:33.880 to the tunes

00:34:34.520 of tens of millions

00:34:35.220 as far as I can gather

00:34:36.940 that people

00:34:38.120 in search of their identity

00:34:39.580 look for somebody to blame

00:34:41.660 but they ignore

00:34:42.500 the elephant in the room

00:34:43.320 which is their culture

00:34:44.060 is changing drastically.

00:34:45.720 So they just think

00:34:46.320 the Jews are an easy target.

00:34:48.140 So let's attack the Jews.

00:34:49.260 But for the thought

00:34:51.060 of Jewish school children

00:34:52.260 in London

00:34:52.940 to not be able

00:34:53.820 to wear a Star of David

00:34:54.820 which is the irony

00:34:56.100 and the nihilistic irony

00:34:58.620 behind that

00:34:59.160 is beyond.

00:35:00.300 And for Jewish people

00:35:01.140 to be frightened

00:35:01.680 to live in this capital city

00:35:02.920 and for that to exist

00:35:05.580 in 2024 to me

00:35:06.980 is so much more powerful

00:35:08.940 and important

00:35:10.020 and real

00:35:10.620 because it's actually real

00:35:11.800 than any sort of weird

00:35:13.480 blown up version

00:35:14.720 of what we're calling

00:35:15.480 Islamophobia

00:35:16.180 as our streets

00:35:16.820 are completely controlled

00:35:18.500 and dominated

00:35:19.200 every single weekend

00:35:20.460 by people calling

00:35:21.560 for the genocide

00:35:22.180 massacre of Jewish people.

00:35:23.660 I just think

00:35:24.340 it's not a complicated situation.

00:35:26.940 You just have to go

00:35:27.620 who's calling

00:35:28.680 for who to be murdered

00:35:30.060 and what do we do about it?

00:35:31.920 And in London

00:35:32.440 we have no answer

00:35:34.060 to this at all.

00:35:35.100 Yeah, I agree with all that.

00:35:36.160 Do you disagree

00:35:36.740 with any of that, Calvin?

00:35:38.480 No, we have a two-tiered

00:35:39.620 policing system.

00:35:40.500 You know, I've walked

00:35:40.960 through London

00:35:41.480 and seen these protests

00:35:42.460 of them calling

00:35:43.400 from the river to the sea

00:35:44.540 and calling for the genocide

00:35:45.380 of the Jews

00:35:46.020 saying that Hitler was right

00:35:47.480 and these people

00:35:48.040 are approved of

00:35:49.120 and allowed to get on with it

00:35:50.600 as they hold up

00:35:51.440 their terrorist

00:35:51.940 sympathizing signs

00:35:52.980 of pro-Hamas.

00:35:53.820 But the moment

00:35:54.560 you stand up

00:35:55.020 for something

00:35:55.400 that's slightly

00:35:55.860 on the right

00:35:56.400 then if you hold

00:35:58.000 a Israeli flag up

00:36:00.120 or if you go

00:36:01.260 to a war memorial

00:36:01.960 or something

00:36:02.440 you are the ones

00:36:03.420 that are arrested.

00:36:04.540 So that two-tier policing

00:36:05.420 Lawrence got arrested

00:36:06.160 for saying

00:36:06.960 I'm going to tear down

00:36:07.960 those little cameras

00:36:08.620 that are spying on us.

00:36:09.620 He didn't even do

00:36:10.200 the camera.

00:36:10.700 He just said

00:36:10.900 he got arrested.

00:36:12.060 So they're arresting Lawrence.

00:36:13.440 He's always in trouble.

00:36:15.060 That's pre-crime, isn't it?

00:36:15.860 For that.

00:36:16.500 But you could say

00:36:17.200 all that stuff

00:36:17.800 out of the streets.

00:36:18.660 It's ridiculous.

00:36:19.280 It's so bad

00:36:22.200 for society, isn't it?

00:36:23.420 When you go

00:36:24.040 OK, so I sympathize

00:36:25.980 with those people

00:36:27.140 who want to dismantle

00:36:27.960 the surveillance state.

00:36:29.160 I get six coppers

00:36:30.440 around my house.

00:36:31.560 A guy can stand

00:36:32.840 on the bridge

00:36:33.680 in London

00:36:34.420 and call

00:36:35.880 for the eradication

00:36:36.880 of the Jews

00:36:37.540 for merchant shipping

00:36:39.080 to be attacked

00:36:39.640 by Houthi rebels.

00:36:41.260 We're not even getting

00:36:42.280 into the politics

00:36:43.020 of the situation.

00:36:45.300 That is illegal.

00:36:47.920 You're not allowed

00:36:48.500 to do that.

00:36:49.680 Whereas what I'm

00:36:50.680 talking about

00:36:51.220 they've still got

00:36:52.100 my kids' phones.

00:36:52.880 They've still got

00:36:53.340 my kids' iPads.

00:36:54.220 I still get police

00:36:54.940 coming around to my house

00:36:55.980 all the time

00:36:56.380 trying to intimidate me.

00:36:57.360 And I'm going

00:36:57.680 it's because I'm the minority.

00:36:59.620 If I was marching

00:37:00.360 with the Palestinian mob

00:37:03.060 and saying

00:37:03.840 there was

00:37:04.700 it happened

00:37:06.320 two or three years ago

00:37:07.420 so it's not really

00:37:08.500 being covered

00:37:08.860 in the modern news cycle.

00:37:10.240 There was cars

00:37:11.520 driving down

00:37:12.380 Bayswater Road

00:37:13.240 in London

00:37:13.560 going kill the Jews.

00:37:14.860 Kill the Jews.

00:37:16.000 Rape the Jews.

00:37:17.100 And these guys

00:37:18.060 got off.

00:37:18.920 Nothing happened to them.

00:37:19.940 Wow.

00:37:20.040 So once we lose faith

00:37:21.880 in the judiciary

00:37:22.800 we're in real trouble.

00:37:24.660 The influx of Muslims

00:37:28.220 who do not wish

00:37:29.480 to assimilate

00:37:30.180 has been a problem

00:37:31.360 in much of Europe.

00:37:33.140 France in particular.

00:37:34.360 Germany.

00:37:34.920 But also the UK.

00:37:35.920 And I know that

00:37:36.900 there have been articles

00:37:37.700 about it.

00:37:38.240 You guys have talked

00:37:38.760 about it.

00:37:39.740 But to see it

00:37:40.540 with our own eyes

00:37:41.280 in these crazy

00:37:42.600 protest videos

00:37:43.460 out of the UK

00:37:44.480 as we've seen here

00:37:45.300 in America

00:37:45.720 is pretty alarming.

00:37:47.140 I mean here in America

00:37:47.880 you kind of see it

00:37:48.540 in a couple of

00:37:49.200 like key cities

00:37:50.080 Dearborn, Michigan.

00:37:50.920 We talked about that

00:37:51.480 earlier.

00:37:52.500 Minnesota.

00:37:53.640 And yes

00:37:54.360 a little bit more

00:37:54.900 in the urban centers

00:37:55.560 like New York.

00:37:56.820 But England

00:37:58.260 is a smaller country

00:37:59.380 and to see

00:38:00.660 the thousands

00:38:01.880 and hundreds

00:38:02.540 of thousands

00:38:03.140 on the streets

00:38:04.460 with these Palestinian flags

00:38:05.940 right after 10-7.

00:38:08.180 I mean the response

00:38:09.540 had barely begun

00:38:10.620 by Israel

00:38:11.340 was quite shocking

00:38:13.560 in terms of

00:38:14.880 just how

00:38:16.080 how much

00:38:17.320 England is changing.

00:38:18.840 And I do wonder

00:38:19.380 whether you're seeing

00:38:20.820 the same thing

00:38:21.220 we're seeing

00:38:21.580 which is in these pockets

00:38:22.540 there's absolutely

00:38:23.180 no desire to assimilate.

00:38:25.700 Well also

00:38:26.400 you're exactly right.

00:38:27.540 The spike in anti-Semitism

00:38:28.720 happened immediately

00:38:31.120 after the 7th.

00:38:33.220 So it happened

00:38:34.040 well before there was

00:38:35.040 any sort of Israeli response.

00:38:36.640 And you know

00:38:37.680 Stephen Fry

00:38:38.280 who is an English thinker

00:38:40.000 who I don't agree with

00:38:40.800 about much

00:38:41.420 was right

00:38:42.580 when he said

00:38:43.300 that anti-Semitism

00:38:43.960 is a light sleeper.

00:38:45.320 And I think

00:38:45.860 that it's very

00:38:46.700 indicative

00:38:47.660 of where a society is

00:38:49.140 when you're looking

00:38:50.140 for somebody

00:38:50.940 to attack

00:38:52.500 and to demonize

00:38:54.060 and to other

00:38:54.740 and to vilify

00:38:55.460 and destroy.

00:38:56.340 And I think

00:38:56.680 that's scary.

00:38:57.580 What do you think?

00:38:58.320 I don't think

00:38:58.780 it's just the Jews

00:39:00.040 though.

00:39:00.220 I think it's the Christians too.

00:39:01.880 I know three people

00:39:02.700 have been arrested

00:39:03.380 for silent prayer

00:39:04.280 in their own heads.

00:39:05.840 Yeah exactly.

00:39:06.800 It is.

00:39:07.140 It's anyone that's not

00:39:07.920 The woman across the street

00:39:08.580 from the abortion clinic.

00:39:09.660 Is that who you're talking about?

00:39:10.540 We saw a video of that.

00:39:12.260 Isabel von Spruce

00:39:13.260 and Father Sean

00:39:14.180 and Adam as well

00:39:15.060 they've all been arrested

00:39:16.020 for being in the vicinity

00:39:17.540 of a closed abortion center

00:39:19.780 just praying silently

00:39:21.180 in their own heads.

00:39:21.940 Just Christians praying.

00:39:23.060 No signs.

00:39:24.200 No protests.

00:39:25.140 No harassment.

00:39:25.800 No intimidation.

00:39:26.880 Just praying.

00:39:28.080 Which tells me

00:39:28.620 that someone somewhere

00:39:29.680 fears the power of prayer.

00:39:31.440 Well they hate Christians

00:39:32.320 because they hate

00:39:33.120 the fact that

00:39:34.100 to a Christian

00:39:34.900 the highest authority

00:39:35.760 is not the state.

00:39:37.460 And that's the

00:39:38.040 that's the major problem

00:39:39.060 isn't it?

00:39:39.420 Because we

00:39:40.020 I don't look at

00:39:41.540 any of our national institutions

00:39:43.800 as authorities over me.

00:39:45.180 I look at them

00:39:45.700 as things that should support

00:39:46.820 my family

00:39:47.520 my life

00:39:48.060 my nation

00:39:48.720 but at the moment

00:39:49.840 they're attacking it

00:39:50.680 and the only thing

00:39:52.060 we've got left

00:39:52.540 is the family

00:39:53.060 the wisdom passes

00:39:54.140 you know

00:39:54.680 I don't agree

00:39:55.280 with my dad

00:39:55.740 on everything either

00:39:56.620 but we see each other

00:39:57.400 every week

00:39:57.880 we have dinner

00:39:58.320 and we calmly

00:39:59.340 go through things

00:40:00.200 but this

00:40:00.640 this statist attack

00:40:02.400 on the family

00:40:03.100 and to replace that

00:40:05.160 with you know

00:40:05.840 mutilating children

00:40:07.060 and lying

00:40:08.460 about the most

00:40:09.700 simple binaries

00:40:10.400 in life

00:40:10.860 is part of

00:40:12.640 pretty bad places

00:40:13.780 I'd say.

00:40:14.820 Now you mentioned

00:40:15.600 something that

00:40:16.180 makes me curious

00:40:17.100 I want to talk

00:40:19.240 a little bit

00:40:19.580 about social life.

00:40:20.680 for you

00:40:21.420 in the UK

00:40:22.020 I mean

00:40:22.520 my impression is

00:40:23.920 I've been there

00:40:24.460 a few times

00:40:25.000 it's a country

00:40:26.200 that likes its beer

00:40:27.480 they like the pub

00:40:28.800 they like

00:40:29.440 it's a

00:40:29.820 it's a gathering place

00:40:30.840 a very sort of

00:40:31.800 social

00:40:32.520 hub

00:40:34.260 for interactions

00:40:35.420 and that it's done

00:40:36.180 regularly

00:40:36.620 just for people

00:40:37.940 who want to stay in touch

00:40:38.700 so just tell me

00:40:39.480 a little bit about

00:40:40.040 what is the

00:40:40.940 custom in the UK

00:40:42.360 is the pub

00:40:43.140 an every night thing

00:40:44.200 is it where you meet

00:40:45.260 your future spouse

00:40:46.260 this is obviously

00:40:46.960 for Lawrence

00:40:47.620 how you guys socialize

00:40:50.360 I've met my future spouse

00:40:52.360 I think

00:40:52.820 the pub mentality

00:40:56.500 in Britain

00:40:57.060 is really interesting

00:40:59.120 because the Brits

00:41:00.500 like the Russians

00:41:01.140 you know

00:41:01.560 I think they say

00:41:02.080 that 60% of Russians

00:41:03.400 die over the legal

00:41:05.080 drink driving limit

00:41:06.000 the pub is a place

00:41:08.680 where it's our sort

00:41:10.320 of secular church

00:41:11.280 isn't it

00:41:11.740 and people become regulars

00:41:14.040 I was driving actually

00:41:15.360 out of London

00:41:16.300 the other day

00:41:16.820 through Whitechapel

00:41:17.660 which is a part of London

00:41:19.760 which has been

00:41:20.320 completely transformed

00:41:21.500 like it's not even

00:41:22.860 remotely

00:41:23.320 even recognisably English

00:41:26.020 that you

00:41:27.380 it's just hijabs

00:41:28.580 everywhere

00:41:28.960 and I went past

00:41:30.680 one pub

00:41:31.160 and it was just

00:41:31.620 full of people

00:41:33.160 just holding on

00:41:35.020 to their pint

00:41:36.060 going

00:41:36.440 is it alright

00:41:37.340 it's like

00:41:38.420 can I still get away

00:41:39.500 with this

00:41:39.820 before this is turned

00:41:40.720 into a

00:41:41.260 you know

00:41:42.060 prayer map

00:41:42.960 we went to the pub

00:41:44.080 at lunchtime as well

00:41:44.920 didn't we

00:41:45.320 we went to

00:41:45.920 Hamigan chips

00:41:46.580 we went to Hamigan chips

00:41:47.840 at the pub today

00:41:48.580 because we were

00:41:49.600 recording this morning

00:41:51.300 is the day drink

00:41:52.480 part of the pub visit

00:41:54.160 when you go for lunch

00:41:55.120 it is for some

00:41:56.320 it is for some

00:41:57.260 it was for me

00:41:58.960 it was for me today

00:42:00.080 but it was an amp stall

00:42:01.280 I had an amp stall

00:42:02.100 which is like

00:42:02.720 so yeah

00:42:04.700 it was for me today

00:42:05.440 because

00:42:05.880 I'm curious about this

00:42:07.640 I don't think the British

00:42:08.360 are dying any

00:42:09.120 any earlier than

00:42:10.540 we are here in the States

00:42:11.560 I don't know

00:42:11.960 it doesn't seem like

00:42:12.580 it comes back to haunt you

00:42:13.680 do you think

00:42:14.520 there's something

00:42:14.900 with the British genes

00:42:15.740 that lets you

00:42:16.440 hold your liquor

00:42:17.460 better than we did

00:42:18.280 we can

00:42:18.860 we are dying

00:42:20.500 quicker than everybody else

00:42:22.540 if you look at

00:42:23.680 Alison Pearson

00:42:24.360 who's one of the best

00:42:25.440 columnists in Britain

00:42:27.040 on

00:42:27.900 in the Telegraph today

00:42:29.280 was writing about

00:42:30.540 the fact that

00:42:31.100 where Britain fits in

00:42:32.580 with its

00:42:33.020 160 billion pound a year

00:42:35.600 national health service

00:42:36.700 what your chances

00:42:38.180 of surviving cancer are

00:42:39.540 and they are

00:42:40.520 the lowest in the G7

00:42:42.000 and I think

00:42:43.020 well that's probably why

00:42:43.960 39th

00:42:46.240 in

00:42:46.640 out of developed countries

00:42:48.780 but bearing in mind

00:42:49.860 that 170

00:42:50.320 but that's the reason

00:42:50.980 socialized medicine

00:42:51.860 I don't think it's the beer

00:42:52.920 no no

00:42:54.220 I think the beer

00:42:54.880 is good for you

00:42:55.700 it's of course

00:42:56.580 like that freedom

00:42:57.480 of association

00:42:58.260 the pub is our secular church

00:42:59.860 it's where we put

00:43:00.460 the world to rights

00:43:01.280 it's where we gather

00:43:02.300 and we're in fellowship

00:43:03.900 with each other

00:43:04.480 and I think that's

00:43:05.020 one of the reasons

00:43:05.680 the pubs were closed

00:43:06.820 just as the churches were

00:43:08.460 over the lockdowns

00:43:09.600 because we couldn't gather

00:43:10.440 and coordinate

00:43:11.620 and be one with each other

00:43:13.340 they nearly

00:43:14.160 they tried to bar me

00:43:15.160 from my local pub

00:43:16.040 because I went

00:43:16.860 when the lockdowns

00:43:18.400 were happening

00:43:18.760 I'd refuse to download

00:43:19.960 the track and trace app

00:43:21.500 so I'd go up

00:43:22.640 and they'd have a piece of paper

00:43:23.580 and they'd say

00:43:23.900 what's your name

00:43:24.460 and I said

00:43:24.900 John Smith

00:43:25.940 and they went

00:43:26.700 what's your mobile number

00:43:27.560 and I went

00:43:28.000 07777

00:43:29.660 double civil

00:43:30.820 yeah well you've got to be

00:43:32.020 in trouble Megan

00:43:32.460 this is the problem

00:43:33.160 you've got to be

00:43:33.760 I can't see a world

00:43:36.440 that we can get out

00:43:37.800 of this problem

00:43:38.440 without troublemakers

00:43:39.480 now

00:43:40.040 I think we need

00:43:41.400 we need dissidents

00:43:42.880 who are willing

00:43:43.800 to turn around

00:43:44.820 and mock

00:43:45.640 openly mock

00:43:46.680 the orthodoxies

00:43:47.500 that we're

00:43:47.980 that are being shoved

00:43:48.860 in our faces

00:43:49.420 and I just

00:43:50.260 I kind of circumnavigate

00:43:52.200 the polite bit

00:43:54.440 and I'm just like

00:43:55.360 you're lying

00:43:55.960 you're hurting my children

00:43:57.200 you're brainwashing them

00:43:58.780 you're brainwashing

00:43:59.760 everyone in society

00:44:00.620 to see race and gender

00:44:01.980 as the first things in life

00:44:03.480 I don't want to live like that

00:44:04.640 I want to live

00:44:05.400 in a relatively

00:44:06.880 colorblind society

00:44:08.000 where my children

00:44:09.660 are being looked after

00:44:10.500 in school

00:44:11.260 and where my values

00:44:12.480 are being

00:44:12.920 supported by the teachers

00:44:15.060 not where I'm at war

00:44:16.420 with the state

00:44:17.080 let me ask you

00:44:18.360 a follow up on that

00:44:19.120 so you're brave

00:44:21.560 and you've been outspoken

00:44:22.620 for a long time

00:44:23.260 but it's

00:44:24.420 it seems to me

00:44:25.720 that it's taking

00:44:27.220 its toll on you

00:44:28.040 because

00:44:28.800 I follow you on X

00:44:31.380 and at times

00:44:32.560 you seem

00:44:33.260 very down

00:44:34.340 and very

00:44:36.200 forlorn

00:44:36.900 you know

00:44:37.700 about

00:44:38.080 how much

00:44:39.880 blowback

00:44:40.380 you've gotten

00:44:40.940 for taking

00:44:41.720 these are not

00:44:42.600 outrageous positions

00:44:43.560 but you know

00:44:44.560 you got the boot

00:44:45.220 from GB

00:44:45.720 and the police

00:44:46.840 arrested you

00:44:47.720 over this

00:44:48.300 you know

00:44:48.580 I don't like

00:44:49.000 the surveillance state

00:44:49.760 thing

00:44:50.100 you got sued

00:44:51.580 for libel

00:44:52.180 because somebody

00:44:52.660 insulted you

00:44:53.220 on the internet

00:44:53.700 then you

00:44:54.180 insulted them back

00:44:55.120 and the court said

00:44:55.660 well I don't know

00:44:56.120 about your insult

00:44:56.740 whether it's

00:44:57.120 defamation of Lawrence

00:44:59.060 but he defamed you

00:45:00.300 so now you got a judgment

00:45:01.320 so the stuff piles up

00:45:03.680 being outspoken

00:45:04.500 taking risks

00:45:05.300 it's important

00:45:06.580 but it piles up

00:45:07.440 and I wonder

00:45:07.940 if you can speak

00:45:08.940 to the real life

00:45:09.960 toll

00:45:10.540 of being that guy

00:45:12.320 we were talking

00:45:14.440 about this today

00:45:15.200 at lunch

00:45:16.400 and Calvin said

00:45:17.620 either it's going

00:45:19.020 to get you

00:45:19.540 or you're going

00:45:20.200 to get it

00:45:20.640 and

00:45:22.060 look

00:45:23.680 I find it

00:45:24.620 really difficult

00:45:25.500 because

00:45:26.280 I'm compelled

00:45:27.740 to say

00:45:29.480 what I see

00:45:30.800 and to call out

00:45:32.240 things that I think

00:45:32.960 are not true

00:45:33.720 and I

00:45:34.620 don't care

00:45:36.260 in the instant

00:45:38.020 in the moment

00:45:38.740 of the damage

00:45:39.440 that it will do me

00:45:40.180 in the long term

00:45:40.980 but you're absolutely right

00:45:42.220 I do feel

00:45:42.980 deeply forlorn

00:45:44.080 because

00:45:44.940 I don't feel

00:45:46.340 that

00:45:46.660 I almost feel like

00:45:49.100 it's a bit early

00:45:50.040 to start talking

00:45:50.840 about all of these topics

00:45:52.080 do you know

00:45:52.860 what I mean

00:45:53.220 it's like

00:45:53.660 these topics

00:45:55.040 are so deep

00:45:56.080 and so spiritual

00:45:56.900 that

00:45:58.140 me talking about them

00:45:59.980 in a sort of

00:46:01.900 inarticulate way

00:46:02.740 which I do

00:46:03.480 is

00:46:04.060 difficult for people

00:46:05.980 and

00:46:06.500 I mean

00:46:06.840 I don't even read

00:46:07.800 what people reply to me

00:46:08.980 on my Twitter

00:46:09.580 but I

00:46:10.540 find

00:46:11.460 I feel a deep

00:46:13.040 sense of sadness

00:46:13.940 but at the same time

00:46:15.220 a deep sense of

00:46:16.180 you've got to carry on man

00:46:17.440 because what are you going to do

00:46:18.720 what did you

00:46:19.320 what was your advice

00:46:20.080 well

00:46:20.320 I mean

00:46:20.800 in my perspective

00:46:21.940 Lawrence is the infantryman

00:46:23.040 right

00:46:23.240 so he's breaking down

00:46:24.240 the barriers

00:46:24.700 so other people

00:46:25.320 can follow suit

00:46:26.360 that the established people

00:46:27.800 the you know

00:46:28.380 the people who put it polite

00:46:29.900 in accordance with

00:46:31.780 civility of the houses

00:46:33.360 of parliament

00:46:33.700 those kinds of people

00:46:34.420 but you're the person

00:46:35.560 who goes and takes

00:46:36.300 all the flack first

00:46:37.380 which is great

00:46:38.640 for the people that follow

00:46:39.540 but not so good for you

00:46:40.900 and I think

00:46:41.220 the problem is

00:46:42.220 what I was saying

00:46:43.040 is that either

00:46:43.460 it's going to break you

00:46:44.160 or you're going to

00:46:44.520 break free from it

00:46:45.220 like you can only do this

00:46:46.180 for so long

00:46:46.640 you can only take so much

00:46:48.040 you know

00:46:48.440 take so many hits

00:46:49.540 and everyone's like

00:46:50.420 yes

00:46:50.660 Lawrence please

00:46:51.320 please do what you're doing

00:46:52.280 thank you

00:46:52.900 which is great

00:46:53.720 but what about

00:46:54.740 your personal talk

00:46:55.740 at what point

00:46:56.360 are you going to say

00:46:56.840 you know what

00:46:57.360 I've fought the good fight

00:46:58.360 it's time for me

00:46:59.100 to step aside

00:46:59.760 and take care of my family

00:47:00.500 and do other things

00:47:01.360 and let someone else

00:47:02.760 take the flack for a while

00:47:03.740 well I hugged my son

00:47:05.000 on holiday

00:47:05.640 my little son

00:47:06.640 when we were skiing

00:47:07.480 and he said

00:47:09.920 you're shaking

00:47:10.680 so much

00:47:13.260 and I was like

00:47:14.420 wow

00:47:14.920 so yeah

00:47:16.820 that's odd

00:47:17.660 you know Lawrence

00:47:20.760 I really think

00:47:21.500 for whatever it's worth

00:47:23.200 the decision for you

00:47:25.160 I think should be

00:47:25.720 to go forward

00:47:26.300 I think putting down

00:47:27.480 the sword

00:47:28.480 and stepping away

00:47:29.620 from the infantry

00:47:30.280 is probably the worst

00:47:31.440 thing you can do

00:47:32.040 I think fighting

00:47:33.240 the good fight

00:47:33.780 has its benefits

00:47:35.260 and taking an active role

00:47:37.300 in this cultural rot war

00:47:39.760 that we're in

00:47:41.060 I think will be cathartic

00:47:42.840 to you

00:47:43.180 especially now

00:47:43.920 that you've gotten

00:47:44.600 back out there

00:47:45.540 you're at the very beginning

00:47:47.300 in my view

00:47:48.440 of having figured it out

00:47:50.040 where you belong

00:47:51.160 what you should be doing

00:47:52.680 forget GB

00:47:54.020 that was a farce

00:47:55.220 it turned out to be

00:47:56.220 a shell

00:47:56.780 of what it said

00:47:57.440 it was going to be

00:47:58.200 the acting world

00:47:59.860 is horrid

00:48:00.820 so that wasn't

00:48:01.880 the place for you

00:48:02.680 and now

00:48:03.920 you've found

00:48:04.840 your right place

00:48:06.180 you know

00:48:06.600 as a leading

00:48:07.360 social commentator

00:48:08.340 who is

00:48:08.960 unlike so many others

00:48:10.180 not afraid

00:48:11.400 to say the things

00:48:12.460 and doing it

00:48:13.120 with a close friend

00:48:14.100 who's also fearless

00:48:15.840 and supportive

00:48:16.680 and I think

00:48:18.020 this will go

00:48:18.620 beyond weekly

00:48:19.780 I hope it goes

00:48:20.720 at least three times

00:48:21.560 a week

00:48:21.880 if not more

00:48:22.640 and provides

00:48:24.060 the UK

00:48:24.400 with this

00:48:25.020 thing

00:48:25.880 that they just

00:48:26.400 don't have

00:48:27.160 it's so sparse

00:48:28.320 over there

00:48:28.800 you can do it

00:48:29.960 you're at the

00:48:30.520 lowest point

00:48:31.440 right now

00:48:32.020 because of all

00:48:32.620 that's come down

00:48:33.260 on you

00:48:33.560 but I feel

00:48:34.300 like it's only

00:48:34.840 blue skies

00:48:35.400 from this point

00:48:35.980 forward

00:48:36.340 well I think

00:48:37.920 you're right

00:48:38.460 and also

00:48:39.000 I'm blessed

00:48:39.720 with Calv

00:48:40.540 because

00:48:41.720 you know

00:48:43.200 you realize

00:48:44.100 in times

00:48:44.760 of real

00:48:45.880 difficulty

00:48:46.580 and trouble

00:48:47.380 who is

00:48:48.560 real

00:48:49.580 and actually

00:48:51.160 as a gift

00:48:52.180 that you could

00:48:53.360 receive in life

00:48:54.440 to get the insight

00:48:55.880 of someone

00:48:56.560 who is

00:48:57.080 real

00:48:58.220 is very

00:48:59.820 very inspiring

00:49:00.760 and you've

00:49:01.220 been a great

00:49:01.700 friend to me

00:49:02.320 through this

00:49:02.840 so thank you

00:49:03.380 brother

00:49:03.600 Calv

00:49:05.000 you're awesome

00:49:06.460 I'm so glad

00:49:07.540 you guys found

00:49:08.060 each other

00:49:08.440 if nothing else

00:49:09.320 GB did that

00:49:10.080 and I look

00:49:11.520 forward to tuning

00:49:12.100 in and having

00:49:12.640 you guys back

00:49:13.220 on often

00:49:13.980 all the best

00:49:14.620 with it

00:49:15.200 God bless

00:49:16.080 Megan

00:49:16.300 cheers

00:49:16.720 Megan

00:49:17.020 oh

00:49:19.140 you're so

00:49:19.700 great

00:49:20.000 okay so

00:49:20.860 so if you

00:49:21.960 would like

00:49:22.320 to support

00:49:23.400 Lawrence Fox

00:49:24.380 and Calvin

00:49:24.740 Robinson

00:49:25.080 you can watch

00:49:26.280 their weekly

00:49:26.640 show Fox

00:49:27.500 and Father

00:49:28.280 by going

00:49:29.260 to YouTube

00:49:29.720 and just

00:49:30.220 once you get

00:49:30.580 to YouTube

00:49:30.940 in the search

00:49:31.460 bar

00:49:31.740 type in

00:49:32.480 reclaim

00:49:32.980 the media

00:49:33.620 well

00:49:34.220 well titled

00:49:34.820 and give

00:49:36.440 them their

00:49:36.780 support

00:49:37.080 all it takes

00:49:37.520 is a little

00:49:37.880 subscribe

00:49:38.220 button

00:49:38.660 click

00:49:39.200 and then

00:49:40.340 they've got

00:49:40.800 you

00:49:41.100 and that'll

00:49:41.840 help them

00:49:42.360 and you can

00:49:43.260 see why

00:49:43.660 it's important

00:49:44.160 on a number

00:49:44.680 of levels

00:49:45.700 and I would

00:49:46.220 love it

00:49:46.500 if you're

00:49:46.820 while you're

00:49:47.200 there

00:49:47.460 you go

00:49:47.880 and subscribe

00:49:48.320 to the

00:49:48.720 Megan Kelly

00:49:49.140 show too

00:49:49.660 thank you

00:49:50.460 all so much

00:49:50.860 for joining

00:49:51.220 us

00:49:51.440 and we'll

00:49:51.800 see you

00:49:52.000 thanks for

00:49:55.660 listening to

00:49:56.120 the Megan

00:49:56.400 Kelly show

00:49:57.040 no BS

00:49:57.920 no agenda

00:49:58.680 and no fear

The Megyn Kelly Show - April 11, 2024

Thought Police and Censorship, and New Gender Surgery Guidance, with Laurence Fox and Father Calvin Robinson ｜ Ep. 763

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