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00:00:31.280 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest and provocative conversations.

00:00:42.800 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.840 I am fresh off a week of vacay and fired up about so many stories in the news.

00:00:50.740 So we went, we had a great time. It was my kids' spring break.

00:00:53.800 The first week, you may know, we went to Montana where we skied.

00:00:57.920 And it was delightful. Spring skiing is so nice, isn't it?

00:01:01.400 I hate the cold. God, I grew up in Syracuse and Albany, but I still hate the cold.

00:01:05.380 So it was delightful. Had a great time out there.

00:01:07.520 And then we headed for the beach.

00:01:09.980 And I have to say, it was really nice.

00:01:13.040 It was so nice just to be in the warmth and, you know,

00:01:17.060 just be with the kids and be in that warm water.

00:01:19.680 We were down in the Bahamas. Can I tell you, it was such a pain in the ass to get from Montana to

00:01:24.420 the Bahamas. I do not recommend that. We had to go from Montana down to Dallas,

00:01:30.440 then fly from Dallas to Miami, where we spent half a day waiting for the flight.

00:01:35.460 And then we had to go. Actually, we wound up having to stay overnight.

00:01:37.660 Then from there, we had to fly for them down to the Bahamas. And then on the way back on the way

00:01:43.540 back, we actually had to check our bags from the Bahamas to Miami. And we had to reclaim them

00:01:50.820 in Miami, even though we're flying to New York. We had to reclaim our bags and go through security

00:01:57.000 again and do the whole costume. I'm like, why can't we just do all this in New York? I don't get it.

00:02:01.100 You know, normally you can check your bag straight through. It's a pain in the ass. You've got three

00:02:04.640 kids. My daughter was in a wheelchair because it's a long story, but she hurt her ankle playing

00:02:09.260 soccer before the vacation. Anyway, so all this is like such a, that's why I say that I'm like,

00:02:13.320 why, why do we have to get our bags and then recheck our bags? Why didn't they just get checked

00:02:18.640 all the way through? You know why? This is with American Airlines. The worker there told us it was

00:02:22.660 because, um, because they lost all the bags because of like all, you know how the airlines are

00:02:27.640 losing all the bags. Don't get me started. This is their new system. Instead of letting you check your

00:02:32.780 bags all the way through on some of these flights, they're making you get your bags at the first

00:02:37.140 stop and then go through the whole process. So we had to re go through security, re go through bag

00:02:43.220 check. Like airline travel has got a lot. It's got a lot to, to a long way to go. All right.

00:02:51.520 It was rough. Um, we did fly coach. So there, I told you before, sometimes we do it. Sometimes we

00:02:56.780 don't, but I like my kids to understand, you know, just because dad and I have some money doesn't

00:03:00.980 mean you're going to, this is what life is like. Suck it up, wait in line, sit in the seat by the

00:03:06.300 bathroom. This is how people travel. If you want something better, work hard, try to earn more

00:03:12.040 money. If that's not important to you, no problem either. But I really, we do try hard where we can

00:03:17.320 not to just stick the silver spoon in there. And you know, we don't want them to grow up spoiled,

00:03:22.700 frankly. Um, anyway, so it was great. We had a lovely time. Um, my daughter sucked it up on the

00:03:29.220 ankle and, uh, had fun, like playing pickleball and saw the stingrays and it was fun. You know,

00:03:36.580 we just played March Madness. It got completely blown out on my brackets as did everyone in America.

00:03:42.040 Right. I gotta tell you, there's a serious XM poll going on right now where, you know,

00:03:46.040 not poll, but whatever bracket where you can enter the March Madness. So we did that too. We did our

00:03:49.820 family and then we did, there is some guy named Jeffrey who is absolutely slaying the rest of us.

00:03:55.420 Jeffrey, who are you? How are you doing it? He picked all the upsets. I swear he must have this

00:04:00.960 actual final four. Um, because Jeffrey has got some sort of weird connection to basketball that

00:04:07.640 the rest of us need to have in going forward. Um, brackets. My last comment is this in the Bahamas.

00:04:13.780 There we are. Love. I have a question for America. What happened to bathing suits?

00:04:17.980 Where, where are the bathing suits? Where are the young women's bathing suits? There was so much

00:04:25.920 bottom being shown. It's all dental floss up the ass. Now that's it. Nobody wears a proper,

00:04:31.860 like not even like the Brazilian, not even like, you know, just a little show. I mean,

00:04:35.600 it's full dental floss up the bottom, full cheeks on display. Doesn't matter the condition of the

00:04:42.400 bottom either. Doesn't matter. It's like huge, small cellulite, not on display preening. Look at

00:04:51.340 me. I know Abby's going, I disapprove. I'm not going to lie. I disapprove back in my day. A little

00:04:58.340 modesty went a long way. You wanted to make them like dream a little about what was underneath that

00:05:03.180 little square in the back and the front for that matter. You didn't like, I said to my son Yates,

00:05:08.820 we were in the hot tub. I'm like, Yates, someday when you get older, if you want to marry a girl

00:05:13.300 who looks like that, good for you. You should do that. And ideally you'll pick one who looks like

00:05:17.460 that underneath her clothes and only shows that body to you. It's just like nothing to the

00:05:22.460 imagination. I have to say, I don't think it's sexy. Certainly don't think it's classy. And I

00:05:27.040 missed the old regular bikinis. Like they weren't revealing enough. A bikini is revealing. It's

00:05:32.560 revealing. Okay. Sorry. Old person rant of the day. I'm just got to say. Oh, one final note.

00:05:38.820 Our friend and dog sitter and summer dog walker, Holly, we know her from our beach community.

00:05:45.640 She came and she stayed with the dogs. Well, I'll put it all in my American news minute this

00:05:51.340 Friday. If you care to update on how poor Strudwick, I mean, Strudwick terrorized poor

00:05:56.160 Holly. Half our food was eaten. And then there was vitamin gate on the day before we came home,

00:06:02.960 which had poor Holly on the phone with poison control. Strudwick's fine. Of course the dog can

00:06:07.820 eat anything and be absolutely fine, but he's up to his old ways. He never abandoned them as you

00:06:12.920 know, and we'll have a fun update for you. So one thing I was happy for while I was on vacation is

00:06:17.780 the fact that Trump did not get arrested. I don't really want to see Trump get arrested. I don't

00:06:22.060 think it's going to be good for the country. And I think the legal case is a bunch of BS.

00:06:26.020 However, I really didn't want to have it to happen while I was on vacation. Every news person has this

00:06:30.480 fear. And when they go on vacation, something big is going to happen. We're not going to have the

00:06:33.280 opportunity to comment on it. And I'm glad it didn't happen, but whether it's going to happen

00:06:37.020 this week remains to be seen. The reports are today, according to the AP, that the New York

00:06:42.840 grand jury has reconvened and that they're meeting now. So that could be happening. And Trump is saying

00:06:50.520 that Alvin Bragg, the Soros funded DA here, is abandoning the case. I don't know that he can say

00:06:56.960 that yet. He certainly should, but I don't know that we're there yet. My indications are this guy's

00:07:03.280 going full steam ahead and is trying to do some rehabilitation of his case in front of this grand

00:07:09.100 jury because they had a bad witness for his side take the stand yesterday. This guy who's just

00:07:14.840 completely tore a new one into Michael Cohen. So I don't know that Trump is out of the woods

00:07:19.160 and things are going to get interesting this week. Okay. In addition to that, the GOP primary

00:07:23.700 primary is truly underway. Uh, Trump held his first campaign rally, the first real one,

00:07:28.120 not any of these fake things he's been doing in Texas over the weekend. Um, and DeSantis has been

00:07:33.380 on the nonstop book tour. Got some thoughts on that too, which we can discuss. Uh, and we'll talk

00:07:38.080 about the latest polls. Also ESPN decides to celebrate women's history month by spotlighting a

00:07:42.700 man, a trans woman, biological man, Leah Thomas. Hell no, ESPN. Oh, hell no.

00:07:50.900 Join me now for the full show. Two smart young women who we loved having on last time. Amala

00:07:57.920 Epanobi host of unapologetic live and federalist writer, Evita Duffy Alfonso, Amala Evita. Great

00:08:05.880 to have you back. Good to be back. Amala. I'm, I'm, am I wrong? Where are the bathing suits?

00:08:11.660 What happened to the bathing suits? You know what? You're not wrong. Every time I go to a pool or a

00:08:16.320 beach, you might as well be naked. Women are wearing nothing out these days and they're,

00:08:19.940 they're very comfortable doing so. And I agree with you. Leave something to the imagination.

00:08:23.880 I don't know where this old classic beauty standard went, but it's gone. It's really

00:08:28.760 gone. It's just too much. If you're, you guys are both so young, but I, I don't mean to sound

00:08:35.060 like the old fuddy daddy, like cover up girls, but I do feel like the girl should cover up.

00:08:40.720 I actually think it's uncomfortable. I mean, I don't know who can wear something like that and

00:08:44.440 actually swim and feel like you can be comfortable in your own skin. I went on vacation recently with my,

00:08:49.540 my whole family and I had eight younger siblings and all the girls were in comfortable bikinis,

00:08:54.420 normal bikinis or one pieces. Um, I was in one piece myself because I wanted to scuba dive. I

00:08:59.260 mean, I just don't understand the point of it. I think it's, it's just ridiculous. Like,

00:09:03.000 like Amala said also just what happened to classic beauty. She's absolutely right.

00:09:07.100 Yes. It's like, I, I don't, this is not something I would let my kids watch on TV.

00:09:11.700 And I really don't want them to be subjected to somebody's completely naked ass while we're just

00:09:18.140 hanging out at the family pool. You know what I mean? It's like, there are certain things it's

00:09:21.740 like, okay, I don't know. It's like, you got the under boob, you got the side boob, you got the entire

00:09:26.280 bottom, except for the crack, but most of the crack too. It's just a lot. Uh, and I don't think

00:09:31.280 it's sexy. I really don't. I think it's desperate. I think you cut you a stink of desperation as my

00:09:35.920 friend and makeup artist, uh, of your Maureen would say, yes, stink of desperation. Okay. So

00:09:40.360 anyway, um, Alvin Bragg seems pretty desperate to get Trump arrested and indicted by this grand jury.

00:09:48.280 So what happened while I was on vacation was he brought in, well, Trump sent in a witness,

00:09:53.980 uh, who was not good for Alvin Bragg, Costello and Costello got in there and said, Michael Cohen is a

00:09:59.480 disgusting liar. Michael Cohen did not pay off Stormy Daniels on behalf of president Trump. He did

00:10:05.880 it, uh, to stop to him from losing an election. He did it on his own. And Michael Cohen's now lying

00:10:12.160 about Trump. And this testimonial was backed up by documents in which it emerged that Michael Cohen

00:10:17.680 himself said that he paid this money on his own and that it wasn't from Donald Trump. By the way,

00:10:22.500 this is what Michael Cohen's lawyer told me on the air at NBC in 2018 as well. I have this statement

00:10:27.660 on the air from Michael Cohen's lawyer saying the boss did not pay for it. Now I didn't believe it,

00:10:31.880 but he said it and he said it to federal, uh, authorities back then. And so the question

00:10:38.040 now is whether Alvin Bragg has lost his case before he's even brought it, that this grand jury

00:10:42.920 doesn't want to be in the position of giving him the green light on a BS case. It's going to fall

00:10:47.740 apart. And these other prosecutors on the documents case, classified documents and down in Georgia on

00:10:53.760 whether Trump, you know, pressure people to change the votes are kind of sitting in the wing saying,

00:10:58.000 if anybody's got a decent case, it's us. You shouldn't certainly shouldn't go first and you

00:11:02.360 shouldn't, you know, ruin the public appetite on criminally prosecuting Trump by bringing the BS

00:11:07.820 about Michael Cohen, Stormy Daniels and a payment that may or may not have come from Trump.

00:11:12.200 What now for seven years ago? Uh, what do you think?

00:11:17.820 Yeah. I, in reading into this can correct me if I'm wrong. It's not even necessarily the payment.

00:11:22.140 That's the problem here. It's the business filings regarding the payment. And that amounts to what

00:11:26.800 a misdemeanor, a misdemeanor. So this is what we're going to go after is a witch hunt against

00:11:31.300 a former president for a misdemeanor charge that he may or may not have been involved in.

00:11:36.340 I stand by the fact that they're going to go after Trump with whatever they can. They're going

00:11:41.280 to investigate him in whatever way they can. They tried to go after him with the classified

00:11:45.020 documents. And I think they're still up to that exact same witch hunt today. So if they can find

00:11:50.260 something on this Stormy Daniels case, they will try. Although I don't think the odds are in their favor

00:11:55.160 on this one. And it is, like you said, it's just BS.

00:11:58.500 So you're exactly right. The, the, the underlying alleged crime is the payoff to Stormy Daniels,

00:12:04.160 which by the way, it's totally illegal to pay somebody off, not to tell about your affair.

00:12:07.420 Okay. Just, it is what's not legal is to pay them off in order to influence an election,

00:12:12.960 uh, and then, and to exceed election campaign, uh, contribution limits and so on. Um, so he's

00:12:19.220 trying to brag is trying to say that's the underlying crime. Cause if you lie on your books,

00:12:24.100 if you say, Oh, payment to Michael Cohen for legal services, when really you're reimbursing

00:12:29.120 him for a hush money payment, that's a misdemeanor in New York. But if you do it and what you're

00:12:34.580 covering up is a crime, the, the thing you're worried about emerging is a crime in the first

00:12:39.820 instance, then you've elevated your bad bookkeeping to a felony. And that's what Alvin Bragg appears to

00:12:45.500 be trying to do to elevate. We don't know whether he's going to charge election fraud or election,

00:12:51.140 uh, campaign contributions that were unlawful question about whether you could do that at

00:12:55.140 the state level. Anyway, it's more of a federal crime. Um, we don't know whether he's going to

00:12:59.440 charge that, but he's definitely looking at those books saying, and he loves, by the way,

00:13:02.720 he loves bookkeeping crimes, Alvin Bragg. This is the one he doesn't want to go after felons.

00:13:06.780 He doesn't want to go after people who like rob you at gunpoint. He doesn't want to go over

00:13:10.480 turnstile jumpers. Uh, but he definitely wants to get you if you committed any sort of a financial

00:13:14.700 crime, right? White collar crime loves it. So it would be right up his alley to get,

00:13:19.580 you know, the ultimate white collar, uh, Trump. And I, I honestly don't think it really matters

00:13:26.760 to Alvin Bragg, whether he has a real crime here or not. I mean, that the, the evidence from, from,

00:13:32.220 from what you talked about, what Michael Cohen has said in the past, what, um, what, what the,

00:13:37.260 what the witness that Trump brought forward has said, I mean, the, the case is sort of falling apart.

00:13:40.900 What I think is, is if this is all about is an image, right? We want to get an image

00:13:44.740 of arresting Donald Trump. The GOP candidate is someone who was put behind bars who had,

00:13:50.820 you know, been his home raided by the FBI, you know, early this summer. They like these images

00:13:55.740 of, of Donald Trump looking like a criminal, um, because they think it'll undermine his election.

00:14:00.560 And what I think is interesting is I don't, I don't think it will. I think people are going to see

00:14:05.180 if they, if the Democrats do this in New York, if Alvin Bragg does this, if he actually, um, you know,

00:14:09.760 what gets, what gets indicted and, and, and arrested, um, I, I think that people are going

00:14:14.820 to be angry and they're going to say, you know what, this is a revenge vote. I'm going to vote

00:14:18.900 for Trump, um, because this is so unjust. This is an American, um, and it's going to completely

00:14:24.320 backfire on them. So how I agree with that a hundred percent, but how, if at all, has Trump

00:14:30.240 shot himself in the foot by the weird posts over the weekend, right? The like repo retweeted or posted

00:14:37.820 him with a baseball bat next to Alvin Bragg. Um, of course, MSNBC was trying to tell us that this

00:14:43.400 is racist because Alvin Bragg is black. And they're trying to say it's racist because I guess

00:14:47.400 it's just racist to threaten a DA. If he happens to be black, maybe you just hate him because he's

00:14:51.180 a DA. Maybe it doesn't have anything to do with his skin color, but in any event, um, not a good post.

00:14:56.560 Uh, and it is unlawful to threaten a prosecutor for very good reason. Uh, but does that really change

00:15:03.740 anybody's opinion? People who were mad, they were doing this to Trump and Trump had to take that

00:15:08.280 down. He didn't take it down because of backlash. He took it down because somebody told him, dude,

00:15:12.060 that's a crime. He could actually come at that one. He actually could come after you for.

00:15:15.840 So Amala, what do you make of Trump? You know, I don't know if I would say overreacting, but

00:15:20.980 certainly badly reacting over the weekend. Yeah. I don't think his hardcore fans are ever going to

00:15:26.740 change their mind about Trump. They think that Trump is in fact, he needs this, this presidential

00:15:33.040 election and that he is owed this presidential election. So I don't think a post like that is

00:15:36.880 going to sway them. However, I think it will sway the people who are sitting on the fence between

00:15:41.160 maybe a Trump or a DeSantis and looking for somebody who's going to actually act tactfully

00:15:46.060 act like a president. And although president Trump got some great things done during his

00:15:51.480 administration, his mouth has always been what has put him in the most trouble, what he's posting

00:15:56.280 on social media to in the morning on Twitter, uh, things like this post, holding a baseball bat to

00:16:01.180 Alvin Bragg grab her by the, you know, and I think people are going to look and say, although

00:16:07.380 I may agree policy-wise with what he's doing or what his administration could accomplish

00:16:11.360 his mouth at every turn seems to shoot him in the foot.

00:16:15.420 Mm hmm. He also called him a Soros backed animal and people are seizing on that for the

00:16:21.560 racism claim. I mean, honestly, I have to say like Trump, he used that term about a lot

00:16:25.280 of people. He uses that term about a lot of people. He's angry. He's very angry. I don't

00:16:31.080 blame him for being angry. And I, but I think you're right. His core supporters aren't really

00:16:34.240 going to care. They're as angry as he is. I don't want anything to happen to Alvin Bragg.

00:16:38.700 I'm not his fan either, but the man should, it is very hard to be a DA. It really is. And think of

00:16:43.760 all the people who you have out there who want to kill you to begin with all these felons. It's the

00:16:47.560 nature of the job though. He doesn't seem to want to go after them. Um, but in any event, nothing should

00:16:51.440 be said calling into a question, the man's safety. That's, that's beyond the pale. Trump was right to

00:16:57.180 take it down. Um, he calls him also a degenerate psychopath again with the name calling in the

00:17:04.240 meantime, while that pot is boiling or coming to a boil, we're at like full flames, apparently coming

00:17:11.620 out of the pot on whether Trump should be prosecuted for the classified documents. Okay. There is a special

00:17:18.160 prosecutor, Jack Smith. Who's looking into that. Did he have classified documents at Mar-a-Lago?

00:17:22.940 Did he declassify them? Can he do that with a wave of a wand? And did he lie to the feds about

00:17:28.800 having returned all of them? Something really extraordinary happened. Um, this court who's

00:17:36.800 overseeing that case at a federal court out of Washington, DC has actually forced his lawyer,

00:17:43.160 Trump's lawyer to testify against him and to reveal attorney client privileged communications

00:17:49.880 saying, cause this guy's defense, as I understand it is, I told you guys that Trump had turned over

00:17:56.720 all the documents because that's what he told me. And the judge has found that Trump basically used

00:18:02.360 this guy, lied, lied to him. And that pierces the privilege. And, um, this guy's been kind of

00:18:08.500 forced to turn against his own client, terrible position for a lawyer. And, uh, so far there's

00:18:13.960 judge who's now just retired judge barrel Howell, a woman on her final day for seven year tenure as

00:18:19.100 chief judge of the federal district court. There said, we're piercing the attorney client privilege.

00:18:23.820 Um, and that this lawyer has to comply with the grand jury subpoena has to hand over a number of

00:18:28.540 records tied to Trump's alleged criminal scheme said, we're not there yet on meeting the standard of

00:18:34.520 evidence to charge Trump, but we could be and saying, um, it looks like Corcoran, this lawyer

00:18:40.380 deceived the government because he was deceived by his client. So that one's getting uncomfortable,

00:18:45.680 heated, but we still have the matter of Joe Biden's classified documents. Joe Biden didn't,

00:18:50.520 you know, lie to his lawyer, didn't lie to the feds as far as we know. Uh, so what do we make of the

00:18:55.300 fact that that case seems to be moving along pretty quickly? Right. Well, I mean, I think that this is

00:19:01.780 all part, part of the, the Trump witch hunt. And even if Trump is guilty of a crime, I think his

00:19:06.880 supporters are just going to say it's a witch hunt that we're not America anymore. And I think that

00:19:11.080 they, they definitely have a point that we're going to, we're going to go after, um, you know,

00:19:15.300 Trump with stormy Daniels, but you have our own president sitting president who might have paid off

00:19:20.760 China. Right. I mean, we, we, there's a, there's a total double standard, a total breakdown of,

00:19:25.800 of justice. And I think Trump needs to be really, really careful how he's addressing his

00:19:30.960 supporters. I think the baseball bat was very dangerous. Um, you know, what happened after

00:19:36.280 January 6th, you know, what happened to the people that have been in jail for, for over a year now,

00:19:41.360 um, over two years now. So I think he really needs to be careful.

00:19:46.180 You know, that's the thing. So I agree with you and I actually don't like, it's fine. Trump. I don't,

00:19:52.380 I think Trump probably did mislead the federal prosecutors. I mean, I really do. I feel like

00:19:55.680 through this lawyer, he, he, he did tell them that he'd given them everything from what I read

00:19:58.700 and he hadn't. However, I'm not, I remain unmoved. Do we need to go back over what Hillary Clinton

00:20:04.900 said about her server and her emails and the misleading that she and her husband did upon

00:20:10.160 leaving office? We could go through the list of the Democrats who have done this kind of thing

00:20:14.120 with our, with the feds and no one gave a crap, not to mention Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and the

00:20:18.540 influence peddling seems to, they get a complete pass. They get a pass, but Trump has got at least

00:20:23.540 three massive investigations going into him right now into his business. And it just feels lopsided

00:20:29.540 and politically motive motivated. Um, but meanwhile, you, you mentioned the way he's speaking to his

00:20:34.880 supporters. He had his first rally down in Waco, Texas. Amala, they went too far. The January 6th

00:20:43.740 national anthem, Trump with his hand over his heart while they're showing images of the rioters.

00:20:52.140 We don't have to call it an insurrection, but we can admit it was bad. It was not good. People were

00:20:58.280 assaulted, including cops and they desecrated the Capitol. It was disgusting. It was disgusting.

00:21:03.520 And now instead of this Waco thing, they turned it into like something beautiful

00:21:07.520 where Trump was like celebrate the J six choir, the January 6th, like convicts and accused are

00:21:15.240 singing America, the beautiful or the national anthem. And Trump has got his hand. I'm sorry,

00:21:19.940 but that is not a good image. I think there's rehabilitating something that was bad for you

00:21:23.500 PR wise. And then there's crossing over to trying to ask us to believe that it was all wonderful and

00:21:29.720 should be celebrated, which is what they just did. Yeah. I, if I were Donald Trump right now,

00:21:36.160 I would be somewhat backpedaling. You don't necessarily have to backpedal on the fact that

00:21:40.540 Democrats ran with January 6th and tried to create yet another witch hunt where they called it an

00:21:44.740 insurrection. You don't have to backpedal on the fact that there are people still in jail to this

00:21:49.100 day from January 6th that should not be there. These are the things that you can talk about,

00:21:53.240 but to celebrate what did end up being a riot that many are saying you caused is a really bad move,

00:21:59.700 especially if you're looking to be a president again. And again, he gets in trouble with two things.

00:22:05.480 It's his mouth and his attitude. And I think he has a trouble with admitting when something has

00:22:11.120 gone wrong, admitting that something he's involved with has gone wrong. And so long as he takes that

00:22:17.420 stance, he's going to have a tough time. The media went after him as hard as they could during his

00:22:22.840 first presidential run, making up stories of Russian collusion, coming after him for his sexual

00:22:28.420 exploits. But now he's actually giving them ammunition to run after him.

00:22:32.420 The January 6th thing should be moved on from, and ideally for Trump, ignored. It should not be

00:22:40.460 celebrated. He cannot recast this one, Evita. Even Trump, the PR master, is not going to be able

00:22:46.440 to spin January 6th into a beautiful patriotic event that we ought to celebrate at rallies in this

00:22:51.980 way that he literally was celebrating with his hand over the heart with the J6 choir showing images of

00:22:57.480 the riot. Yeah, well, the riot, 100%. I mean, that's the people who crossed the boundary that

00:23:06.820 knew they weren't supposed to, that was legal. I do think that Trump, there's been a perception that

00:23:12.660 Trump has left the January 6th arrest, people who were arrested for January 6th, that he's abandoned

00:23:19.540 them, that he doesn't care about them. And so I think he's trying to reclaim that a little bit,

00:23:23.700 say, no, I stand with them. I feel bad about what happened. And we saw with the bombshell

00:23:29.760 videos that Tucker exposed several weeks ago, showing that people who had been thrown into

00:23:35.420 jail with the, you know, the key thrown away, actually were led in by cops. They were led through

00:23:42.380 the Capitol. They didn't know they were committing a crime, many of them. And now their entire lives

00:23:48.000 are ruined. So to say that January 6th was a beautiful moment of American patriotism,

00:23:53.700 I wouldn't agree with that. But do I think that it's a symbol of the breakdown of justice? Do I

00:23:58.200 think it's a symbol of the double standard in our country where we have BLM writers who were

00:24:02.740 torched American cities in 2020 and never saw justice? He had Kamala Harris, you know, raising funds

00:24:10.220 to get them out of jail even. I mean, really ridiculous. And so I think Trump is trying to say,

00:24:14.760 you know, I'm sticking by my supporters. I'm not letting this go. I believe in justice. I think

00:24:19.420 that's a good thing. I think that's a fine take to have, I think. But like, but as both of you have

00:24:25.600 said, to lionize it as a moment of American patriotism, I think is a little too far. But

00:24:31.080 I think there's a little bit of nuance to it, too. Well, you're not wrong about the BLM protests.

00:24:36.000 Good God, it's absurd how the media and the left try to act like January 6th was the only riot we had,

00:24:40.920 you know, ever in the past five years. The BLM riots caused far more damage and death and

00:24:46.680 destruction than January 6th did and cop injuries and deaths and so on. But Trump has got to win

00:24:54.160 the general. Trump, this is not the way to do it. To win the general, you need more than just

00:25:01.260 Republicans voting for you. You really do. You need independents voting for you and some Democrats

00:25:05.700 because there are the never Trumpers who I mean, let's face it, they're not really Republicans

00:25:09.700 anymore. They're never going to vote. They've they've they've truly crossed over to not just

00:25:12.700 being never Trump. They're never Republican. But in any event, my point is, it's a game of addition

00:25:16.420 and attrition, whatever addition. So this doesn't help. This is not the way he needs to focus on the

00:25:21.900 economy and all the great things he's done. I'm like, especially Trump should be running from

00:25:28.240 January 6th and not talking about it. Oh, yeah. He has so much to to utilize and looking at this

00:25:35.520 current administration and actually levying out valid criticism towards Biden and Harris.

00:25:40.580 But he's not taking that stance. He's just playing to his core base. And it is a very core base.

00:25:46.660 They're going to be there for him. But all of these other people, which is most of Americans

00:25:50.720 sitting in the middle wondering, I don't know which way to go. The country's not doing so well

00:25:54.200 right now, but I don't want to vote for somebody like Donald Trump. Those are the people who are going

00:25:58.360 to be mobilized towards Democrats in this upcoming race. Now, I would love to see Ron DeSantis take

00:26:04.120 this opportunity to come forward and say, hey, I'm a Republican who's getting stuff done. I've

00:26:09.040 done stuff in my state. I've handled covid pretty well. And I'm not going to have the same attitude

00:26:13.680 as Trump. I'm not going to come at you as strong as Trump. I'm certainly not going to make social

00:26:17.280 media posts where I'm possibly threatening somebody with a with a baseball bat. And I'm going to be this

00:26:22.860 sort of even keeled presidential temperament that you need to see in the White House. And that's where

00:26:28.360 Trump is probably going to have problems because this guy is up and coming. People want to see

00:26:33.860 him run and he has a much better temperament. Hmm. It's all related to the same pros and cons.

00:26:42.360 You know, Trump and his emotion is, you know, he crosses all the lines he's not supposed to cross

00:26:48.300 is tied to a different piece of him that I think a lot of us like. You know, he's funny. He's

00:26:56.160 self-deprecating. He takes social risks that sometimes they don't pay off, but a lot of times

00:27:01.020 they do. There's something charming about him. That's just the way it is. You know, I realize

00:27:05.680 if you're far left, you don't see it. But like most people can see it if they're open minded to

00:27:09.780 the man. DeSantis is kind of the opposite in that he doesn't say a lot that's going to get him in

00:27:15.800 trouble. He doesn't take any of those big rhetorical risks for good or for bad, but he doesn't have

00:27:22.160 the it factor. You know, he doesn't he cannot charm a room. And I know his his supporters would say

00:27:29.820 we're charmed down in Florida. Trust us. OK, that's great. But in order to really win,

00:27:35.920 you need to be able to charm more than just the one state that you govern. And so far,

00:27:40.740 he's not doing it. And that's why I think the book tour is interesting, Evita, because he's been

00:27:45.460 out there. He's been all over the place. And the numbers are not good for him. Trump is crushing

00:27:51.780 him in the head to head. Well, in the in the overall polls, he's done a little bit better.

00:27:55.580 I'll get to these polls today. Iowa, New Hampshire, DeSantis. But only when you take the other

00:28:00.460 contestants out, only when it's a head to head DeSantis Trump match. And hello, it's not going

00:28:04.660 to be. It's not going to be, especially in New Hampshire and Iowa, which are the first contests.

00:28:09.480 No one's dropping out before then. Maybe by the end, when you know you have no chance,

00:28:13.360 you drop out, but you don't drop off before. So DeSantis, notwithstanding the ubiquitous presence

00:28:19.960 on all the shows, you know, all the Republican shows, that's where he went. He didn't do any

00:28:24.300 mainstream. It's not happening. And I think it's because of this thing. You know, David Marcus

00:28:29.480 had a good piece about how, like, you can show the girl your spreadsheet of all your great qualities,

00:28:34.460 but in the end, you're really going to need to charm her. You're going to need to find a way to woo

00:28:38.800 the girl with your charm instead of your spreadsheet. Yeah, absolutely. And I think

00:28:45.000 a lot of people have talked about how, you know, DeSantis ran because, you know, Trump walked.

00:28:49.860 Like, it was just like they have the very similar brands of politics, very similar brands of

00:28:54.180 conservatism, similar tactics, the way DeSantis sort of is fearless in Florida, you know, taking

00:29:00.860 on Disney, taking on the deep state. Like, I mean, just really amazing. And yet he has all of the

00:29:07.200 plus sides of not being as, you know, unhinged, I want to say, but, you know, in a not so negative

00:29:14.760 way. And Trump is really a loose cannon. DeSantis is very measured. But like you said, he doesn't have

00:29:19.800 that kind of sparkle. And I think it was Bill Maher who said, you know, why would you go listen to the

00:29:24.420 tribute band when the original is still playing live? And I think that's what's happening right now.

00:29:28.800 I think Trump is still going strong. And his supporters say, he's the OG. He's the one that

00:29:35.280 we all, he's who led us to this sort of new populist form of conservatism, this we're not

00:29:40.960 going to play the left's game. We're going to reject the neocons. I mean, he is really the one

00:29:46.000 who sort of cultivated that and brought it to mainstream conservative politics. And they say,

00:29:52.400 you know, we're going to support him. In addition to the other stuff we've been talking about,

00:29:56.400 the way that our government has thrown everything they can, everything, everything that they can to

00:30:02.240 try and get this man behind bars to prevent him from running they have. And like I said before,

00:30:06.740 that fuels the base, too. And so I think these numbers are not surprising to me. I think

00:30:12.800 it's Trump's time. Trump said it's his time. And the voters think that, too. And as as somebody who's

00:30:18.000 in politics, who's, you know, writing about things and talking about it's I don't think it's my place

00:30:22.360 even to tell people support DeSantis. I know there's some conservatives who, you know, don't

00:30:27.260 like the the how how kind of outrageous and Trump can be and they like how measured and predictable

00:30:34.360 DeSantis is. And I think it's not our place to do that. We just have to let the voters vote for who

00:30:39.320 they want to. DeSantis took a shot at Trump on the Stormy Daniels thing. He said, look, I know that

00:30:45.640 this is a Soros back prosecutor. So he kind of delegitimized or tried to Alvin Bragg.

00:30:51.720 OK, check. The Republicans would like that, I think. But then went on to say, like, I just

00:30:56.260 I don't even have any frame of reference to comment on paying off porn star in advance of

00:31:01.940 an election. Like, I get I don't know what you're talking about. Like, that's just not something

00:31:04.900 right that I could even talk about. And Trump responded on his truth circle. So social by saying,

00:31:11.020 you just wait, you just wait until they start coming to for you. OK, like he's trying to

00:31:17.940 which he denies that he had the affair with Stormy. We'll see. But he's saying you could

00:31:23.380 you can try to take the high road now and say, oh, I don't understand those disgusting

00:31:28.020 problems that Trump has, but they're going to put them around your neck before you blink

00:31:32.120 twice. And you know what? They already are. They already are. I was at a party talking to

00:31:39.120 a liberal woman, very smart, informed, successful woman this past week. And she said, I think

00:31:47.420 DeSantis actually might be a pedophile. He might he actually might be a pedophile. Why

00:31:51.800 did she say that? Because of this this thing that I think the far left put it out and then

00:31:57.260 Trump recirculated it. It was a picture of DeSantis like 20 years ago. He taught high school

00:32:01.580 for a short amount of time. And it shows him like a much younger DeSantis with his arms around

00:32:05.600 some of his students. It doesn't look pervy at all to me. It looks like a teacher celebrating

00:32:09.760 a party or something with it with the kids. They're actually they're going to try to turn

00:32:14.100 him into a pedophile. So like Trump, he's not wrong.

00:32:18.520 Right. He's absolutely not wrong. And I think DeSantis is walking a fine line because he doesn't

00:32:23.160 want to come out and directly endorse Trump in any way or sort of fan the flames of his fan

00:32:28.140 database. But he also doesn't want to demean him and and put anything up publicly that will

00:32:35.500 be too harsh. So I watched this Piers Morgan interview and he sort of just towed the line

00:32:39.940 and again was very moderate in all of his takes, didn't take any super strong dabs towards

00:32:45.180 Donald Trump. But if he is going to run for president, he's going to have to prepare for

00:32:48.720 two things. And that's one, Donald Trump coming after him as hard as he can and sort of shining

00:32:53.300 as this big bulldog, which is what a lot of Republicans want. And he's also going to have

00:32:58.220 to deal with the left coming after him. They've already tried with covid. They tried with the

00:33:02.160 don't say gay bill. They're going after him again with all this drag queen stuff because

00:33:05.920 he's simply trying to stop drag performances from happening in front of kids. I can't imagine

00:33:10.620 if he puts his name in the hat for a president what they're going to come after him with.

00:33:13.800 And it is going to be the most horrible, salacious accusations that they can find pedophilia.

00:33:19.280 They're willing to stoop to and go after him for. And he's going to have to be strong

00:33:23.100 and brave and become a bulldog himself to fight what what what they're going to say

00:33:27.840 and how they're going to come after him, which Trump is already very well versed in.

00:33:31.540 And that's where his mouth is actually very helpful, because he's not scared to come out

00:33:35.080 and say, this is B.S. I don't stand by it. I haven't done anything like this.

00:33:39.660 Whereas DeSantis might just go, oh, you know, I don't know. It's not something that I'm

00:33:44.300 I'm well versed in or not something that I've been been privy to. He's going to have to

00:33:49.760 become a lot stronger in his takes towards them.

00:33:52.340 He is like the the sort of I don't know anything about it.

00:33:56.660 Like that's that's enough to get Trump to react, first of all, but it's not enough to persuade

00:34:00.540 anybody. You've got to be stronger. And Trump is out there saying right now, look, he's trying

00:34:05.380 to run to sanctimonious is running without running, he says.

00:34:09.980 He should take a look at his polls, which are crashing like few people have seen before.

00:34:14.820 That's because he's merely an average Republican governor who has great public relations

00:34:18.620 far better than deserve. He does have good PR people.

00:34:22.360 And then he then he told a story about when Ron DeSantis came to him, he's trying to and

00:34:26.320 this is smart by Trump trying to paint him as like the junior like gopher, you know, like

00:34:31.680 he came, he begged me for the endorsement.

00:34:34.800 You know, he never would have made it without me.

00:34:36.720 And he does have that way of just making others seem small.

00:34:40.740 Here's an example of it from his rally over the weekend.

00:34:44.480 When a man comes to me, tears in his eyes, he's at almost nothing in the polls and he's

00:34:52.380 fighting somebody that's at 42 and he's got almost 30 million dollars in the bank.

00:34:56.960 He's at almost nothing. He's got no cash.

00:35:00.180 And I say, I can't give you an endorsement.

00:35:02.340 There's no way you can win. You're dead.

00:35:05.060 But he fought a little bit like 150.

00:35:07.520 He was certainly no Jim Jordan, that I can tell you.

00:35:09.720 He fought a little bit, just a little bit on impeachment hoax number one, impeachment

00:35:15.180 hoax number two, meaning on television, because I didn't know him very well.

00:35:18.780 But I saw him. So he came and he really wanted.

00:35:21.420 I said, you can't win, can you?

00:35:22.960 How do you can win?

00:35:24.060 Sir, if you endorse me, I'll win.

00:35:26.140 Please, please, sir, endorse me.

00:35:30.380 OK.

00:35:32.500 I mean, there's I don't know if there were tears, but it is true.

00:35:35.500 You know, DeSantis, DeSantis, he needed Trump's endorsement to win.

00:35:40.080 And it was a very tight win.

00:35:41.660 And I think even he has said in the past, thanks to Donald Trump, he went over the top.

00:35:45.680 So that's true.

00:35:47.600 And I don't know.

00:35:48.520 The rest of the attacks on DeSantis in front of that crowd, Evita, did not go over that well.

00:35:52.160 There was more of a sort of a hush.

00:35:54.800 You know, they weren't as excited.

00:35:56.160 They want to hear him attack Biden, Kamala.

00:35:58.540 You know, the deep state, the FBI.

00:36:01.700 I don't know that they want to hear him go after DeSantis, but this is the phase of the race we're in.

00:36:08.240 I think it's just Trump.

00:36:09.680 I mean, that's Trump talks about what he wants to talk about in his rallies.

00:36:12.980 He still mentions the vaccine and all of his supporters didn't are super against the vaccine,

00:36:18.460 you know, submitted exemptions and are upset about, you know, that all the mandates from in Democrat cities.

00:36:23.920 And this is kind of just what he does.

00:36:25.140 He's Trump.

00:36:25.600 And he says what he wants to say.

00:36:28.240 What I think will be interesting is who who in politics is going to stick with Trump and join his team?

00:36:34.780 Because he said now that if you if you join DeSantis's team, if DeSantis announces and you join his team,

00:36:42.140 you will not have a place in my administration.

00:36:44.560 It's a warning to all of you.

00:36:46.060 So essentially, he said, you know, we're you're going to have to pick now and pick wisely who you're going to join.

00:36:53.880 And I think looking at the people who choose him is going to also be an indicator of whether the base and the real movers and shakers and conservative politics think that Trump has a chance here.

00:37:04.620 And I don't think it's good.

00:37:06.240 I don't think it's a good move on Trump's part.

00:37:07.800 I think you want the best people on your team, irrespective of whether they were on DeSantis's campaign.

00:37:14.400 But but that's just Trump.

00:37:16.020 He's just going to do what he's going to do.

00:37:17.300 And I think that's also part of the charm.

00:37:18.820 That's why people love him. And whether we're confused or not, they're probably still going to vote for him.

00:37:23.980 It's just so tricky for DeSantis.

00:37:25.420 He's got to sort of unseat a president who's not actually president right now.

00:37:31.280 You know, it's like so rare that you've got somebody who was president running for the nomination and, you know, a large portion of his supporters thinking he got screwed out of his first and second term.

00:37:41.100 And over 70 percent of the Republican Party still having a very high opinion of that guy.

00:37:46.300 Like, it's just such a tricky move for DeSantis.

00:37:50.980 Now, as I mentioned, he is doing better than he was in states like Iowa and New Hampshire.

00:37:57.780 That's that's what it's all about.

00:37:59.540 But only when it's a two man race and it's not.

00:38:02.700 OK, so I'm going to bring you those polls right after this.

00:38:04.820 And we'll continue our discussion with Amala and Evita in two minutes.

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00:38:43.680 Taking a deeper look at the contest between these two guys.

00:38:47.380 I mean, what I sense here is trouble for the GOP.

00:38:49.720 That is what I sense like.

00:38:50.900 The civil war is on.

00:38:52.800 And I stand by what I said to Dave Rubin months ago.

00:38:55.400 I just don't see how you get past the 800 pound gorilla and then go on.

00:38:59.620 I don't see how you do that to begin with.

00:39:00.920 If you're DeSantis.

00:39:02.000 Not saying it can't happen.

00:39:04.160 I just don't understand the plan to take out Trump.

00:39:07.200 And then even if you do, how do you win the war?

00:39:09.940 Because Trump's supporters, I don't I just don't see them coming out for DeSantis.

00:39:13.800 They're going to be mad.

00:39:14.860 They're going to be mad at DeSantis if Trump goes down.

00:39:18.300 They're going to hold it against him because Trump's going to tell him to hold it against him.

00:39:21.420 And they'll do what Trump tells them, not all, but enough to ruin the general.

00:39:27.860 So I just I understand Republicans feeling.

00:39:31.420 Ugh, right now, because Trump is not helping himself on the general election chances by celebrating Jan 6th.

00:39:39.580 And DeSantis isn't likely to take down the 800 pound gorilla unless he's got some plan that the rest of us haven't figured out.

00:39:47.680 And even if he does manage to take him down, he's going to have to do it in a way where he still gets Trump's supporters.

00:39:53.220 And that is like the true.

00:39:55.080 I mean, if you can do that, you're going to have an act on Vegas for the rest of your life because that's truly pulling the rabbit out of the hat.

00:40:00.560 OK, so here are the polls.

00:40:03.180 As of Friday, March 24th, the average of all polling shows Trump up over DeSantis 14.9 points.

00:40:10.920 It's not close.

00:40:12.400 14.9.

00:40:13.260 He has led all polls.

00:40:17.440 Let's see.

00:40:18.480 Let's see.

00:40:19.140 Since since.

00:40:21.340 Let me see.

00:40:22.340 What is it from the beginning of March?

00:40:24.700 No, looking back at all polls since November, all polls since November.

00:40:29.480 Trump has led all polls except for one at the beginning of March.

00:40:33.520 He's led them all.

00:40:35.740 Monmouth poll just last week.

00:40:39.320 Yeah, it's early as from March 16th to March 20th.

00:40:44.060 Trump, 41.

00:40:45.760 DeSantis, 27.

00:40:48.320 Just in February, Trump had 33 and DeSantis had 33.

00:40:52.300 So DeSantis is going down.

00:40:54.820 Trump is going up.

00:40:56.220 Why?

00:40:57.060 Why is that?

00:40:58.560 I would submit to you the following.

00:41:01.280 Because they've both been out there.

00:41:04.000 Trump is reminding people what they love about him.

00:41:07.140 And DeSantis is getting better known.

00:41:09.220 And DeSantis' ability to charm is a problem for him.

00:41:11.940 His ability to govern is not.

00:41:15.760 That's what people fall in love with DeSantis for.

00:41:17.500 What he does on paper.

00:41:19.040 How he fights.

00:41:20.240 He's smart.

00:41:21.100 He can govern.

00:41:22.400 But he, I'm sorry, he's not a charmer in the interviews.

00:41:25.580 And in 2023 America, it's not like 1940.

00:41:29.200 You got to be good on TV.

00:41:30.500 You got to be good at, like, making people laugh a little.

00:41:33.200 You got to make them feel like, you know, you're warm and you're funny and you're self-deprecating.

00:41:36.800 Not his forte.

00:41:37.860 Your thoughts, Amal?

00:41:38.420 Yeah, I personally hate that presidential elections have become sort of a personality contest.

00:41:45.080 And I wish that we would move away from that as a nation and just look for somebody who is good at governing and does something great on paper.

00:41:51.380 I think maybe a smart move would have been a Trump DeSantis ticket where he does play that role of junior that everybody sees him as now and takes on the VP.

00:42:00.640 But that is long gone now that Trump has called him de-sanctimonious.

00:42:04.620 And he's come after saying, well, I don't know anything about prostitutes and hush money.

00:42:08.420 So that whole connection is gone.

00:42:10.920 I think you're very much right in saying that his main base is not going anywhere as far as Trump is concerned.

00:42:16.900 And if DeSantis somehow goes through this uphill battle and comes out with the ticket, maybe some Trump voters and the hardcore people who are supporting him are just going to sit this one out and stay home.

00:42:28.940 I don't see them showing up to the poll to vote for a Democrat when DeSantis is on the ticket.

00:42:32.480 But they might just say, I'm going to sit this election out.

00:42:35.400 The country is not supporting me.

00:42:36.780 It does not support my values.

00:42:38.020 It does not support the person that I sit behind.

00:42:40.800 So why should I do what has been deemed my civic duty and go out and vote?

00:42:47.880 I've had some viewers write in and say, what do you mean you can't win if you're not charming?

00:42:52.640 Joe Biden is president right now.

00:42:53.920 But my response to them is, he was up against Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg.

00:43:00.120 Come on.

00:43:01.460 He didn't have to face, you know, this kind of.

00:43:05.340 Yes, he did face Trump in the general, obviously.

00:43:07.260 But there were bigger problems and he had to win Democrats and Republicans and independents.

00:43:11.300 But my point is, in the primary, you know, when Republican voters who still love Trump, I mean, the polls show over 73 percent of GOP voters say the MAGA movement has been good for the party.

00:43:20.120 They still have, let's see, 71 percent favorable views of Trump, 21 percent unfavorable.

00:43:25.900 This is GOP voters.

00:43:27.400 They say 76 percent favorable for DeSantis, only 8 percent unfavorable.

00:43:31.580 But that doesn't mean that they're going to vote for him over Trump, because if you look at hardcore MAGA, which is still a 30 percent of the party, they overwhelmingly prefer Trump 73 percent to DeSantis is 25.

00:43:44.200 So the problem is charm might actually matter when, you know, for DeSantis.

00:43:48.680 And the more he gets out there, his numbers are doing the opposite.

00:43:52.360 They're going down.

00:43:53.140 The more people see of him, the worse he's doing.

00:43:56.980 Yeah, I mean, I think this is human nature.

00:43:58.320 I think, you know, they have all these studies that if you're more attractive, you're more personable, you're going to get the job before somebody else who probably is more qualified.

00:44:07.360 That's just that's just the way the world works.

00:44:09.260 And we're seeing it in real time.

00:44:11.560 The difference with Biden, I think that's a really interesting point, is the Democrats have much.

00:44:16.160 The Democrat establishment has proven time and time again to have much more control over elections than the GOP does.

00:44:23.040 I mean, why was Nancy Pelosi Speaker of the House for so many years when when the base, the Democrat enthusiast did not want her, do not like the Joe Bidens of the Democratic Party at all?

00:44:36.220 Well, actually, if you if you're if you're on TikTok at all among Gen Zers, the Democrats are obsessed with Marianne Williamson.

00:44:44.060 They think she's the most amazing candidate.

00:44:46.320 And unfortunately, it's just not going to happen for them.

00:44:48.940 Whereas in the GOP, there's a lot more room for for the base to really have a say and decide who this candidate is going to be.

00:44:56.880 And it is looking like it's looking like Trump as much as we want to we want to say, oh, we're going to push DeSantis.

00:45:03.260 He's more reasonable. It's just not going to happen.

00:45:05.180 And I think it's a combination of both the GOP establishment not having quite as much control over who wins elections and also just human nature.

00:45:14.460 I do think it's interesting.

00:45:16.080 I will say for the record, we asked DeSantis to come on the show.

00:45:19.300 He has not said yes.

00:45:20.520 And I find that very interesting.

00:45:22.260 You know, I love Piers Morgan.

00:45:23.640 He's a pal of mine.

00:45:25.000 Well, why would you go sit with the British guy and not come on the show?

00:45:27.780 And I do think there's a reason for it.

00:45:29.660 And I will venture to say he's afraid.

00:45:33.340 I'm just going to put out there he's afraid because he knows the kind of interview that I would give him.

00:45:37.020 He's not going to get a pass.

00:45:38.240 Same as Trump never got a pass from me.

00:45:39.900 None of these guys get a pass.

00:45:41.000 Speaking of Marilyn, Marianne Williamson, go back and look at the interview I did with her.

00:45:44.400 She also didn't get a pass.

00:45:45.980 She led to the infamous line of this is an interview, not a friendship, which is what I had to remind her of when she got upset.

00:45:52.660 I was actually asking her tough questions.

00:45:54.520 That's the way I am with presidential candidates.

00:45:57.580 And that's because I represent the viewers, not the candidates.

00:46:00.640 You know, and that's the way the journalists should be.

00:46:02.780 We're there for the viewers.

00:46:03.880 We're not there to rub elbows with these guys who may or may not be president and and inure ourselves and their good graces.

00:46:11.300 Reporters need to remember that the relationship is supposed to be adversarial.

00:46:14.980 For the love of God, these journalists should show it.

00:46:17.840 I don't give a shit if you've fallen in love with DeSantis or Trump, for that matter.

00:46:21.720 They're not your friend.

00:46:24.440 Your friend is your audience is the truth.

00:46:27.260 That's the only thing you're out there to cover.

00:46:28.700 And it disgusts me to see the press running cover for Biden, to see the hardcore MAGA group running cover for Trump all the time,

00:46:35.420 to see the now the new the new right in love with DeSantis and running.

00:46:39.860 Like, just stop it.

00:46:41.060 Stop it.

00:46:41.640 Stop falling in love with the politicians.

00:46:43.180 You're a member of the media.

00:46:44.560 Grow a pair.

00:46:45.840 Your business is not to be loved.

00:46:47.480 It's to tell the truth.

00:46:49.040 Respect is what you want.

00:46:50.200 Respect will get you an audience.

00:46:52.080 Love is for pundits who just want to say the nice, sweet nothings that people want to hear.

00:46:56.640 The whole thing is bass-ackwards.

00:46:58.720 It upsets me.

00:46:59.680 OK, but let me go to Iowa and New Hampshire, OK?

00:47:01.600 Because DeSantis is doing well there.

00:47:04.000 He is beating Trump by eight points in Iowa now and tied with Trump in New Hampshire.

00:47:10.580 However, when you expand the field to include people like Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy,

00:47:16.360 DeSantis is tied with Trump in Iowa, erasing his eight-point lead and trailed him by 12 points in New Hampshire.

00:47:22.820 So it's back to the problem we started with, Amla.

00:47:26.480 There are other people in the field.

00:47:28.040 Yeah, it's just not looking good for him at this point, regardless of temperament.

00:47:33.680 And like you said, with him not coming on to your interview, he seems to be playing it a little bit too safe.

00:47:38.720 People are looking for somebody who's going to come out and tell it like it is.

00:47:41.980 And he does seem to sort of skirt the issues, although legislatively he is getting things done.

00:47:47.340 I just, you know, as much as I like the guy and think that he may do a good job,

00:47:52.740 I just don't think he's going to come through on this.

00:47:54.880 And honestly, when in looking at this next election, let's have Trump take his place.

00:48:01.340 And that's what the people want.

00:48:03.080 That's what Republicans want.

00:48:04.720 And he'll get his second term out.

00:48:07.820 But now's the time to do it.

00:48:09.700 And it will be like if you're if you're Ron DeSantis, like now's the time to do it for the love of God.

00:48:14.360 Like take your lumps, go on adversarial media, like see how you do, see how it goes.

00:48:19.440 I don't hate DeSantis.

00:48:20.200 Why wouldn't you, you know, it's like it's not like going on NBC, right?

00:48:23.520 I call it like I see it.

00:48:25.100 Sometimes some things about him are good.

00:48:26.200 Some things about him, I think, are not so good.

00:48:27.960 I think his biggest problem is just like we were in law school.

00:48:30.400 You put the straight A students who are number one in their class in the appellate division of the law firm writing the briefs.

00:48:36.200 And you put the C student who is third tier out in front of the people arguing the cases in front of the jury,

00:48:41.200 because they tend to understand human nature and they can relate more to regular folk.

00:48:46.240 OK, that's my back of the envelope political analysis for the day.

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00:49:26.160 I do want to play a little bit of what Ron DeSantis said in that interview with peers,

00:49:31.440 where he was given the chance to respond to some of the nicknames that Trump was calling him

00:49:36.100 and some of the other things being thrown his way.

00:49:40.020 Take a listen to this nickname that Trump's given you so far.

00:49:42.880 Is it Ron DeSanctimonious or Meatball Ron?

00:49:45.980 Well, I can't even he went off Meatball Ron.

00:49:48.320 I can't I don't know how to spell DeSanctimonious.

00:49:51.140 I don't really know what it means, but I kind of like it's long.

00:49:54.060 It's got a lot of vowels.

00:49:55.180 I mean, so we'd go with that.

00:49:56.700 That's fine.

00:49:57.340 You know, you can call me.

00:49:58.080 You can call me whatever you want.

00:49:59.260 I mean, just as long as you, you know, also call me a winner, because that's what we've been able to do in Florida.

00:50:03.980 Mm hmm.

00:50:05.720 Not bad.

00:50:06.560 What do you think?

00:50:07.560 It's not horrible.

00:50:08.540 I mean, he could have been stronger about it and said, you know, sanctimonious.

00:50:12.020 I that is not something that I stand by.

00:50:13.960 It's not who I am personally.

00:50:15.020 Just look at what I'm doing in Florida.

00:50:16.480 If you feel that I'm morally superior, maybe it's because what I'm doing is right and that I'm running the country the way it should be run.

00:50:23.020 And I have been throughout the entirety of my governor's administration.

00:50:26.600 He really needs to learn to come harder at the people who want to see his downfall.

00:50:31.440 And so long as he stays on the safe side with his responses, he's not going to get anywhere.

00:50:37.180 Hmm.

00:50:37.660 Interesting.

00:50:38.720 Oh, that's fascinating.

00:50:39.680 Well, he's you know, he's got a lot of time to get it right, because I mean, just to take you back, we're in 2023 right now.

00:50:45.160 We're in good God.

00:50:46.480 It's almost April.

00:50:47.220 Can you believe you believe it's almost April?

00:50:49.240 How did that happen?

00:50:50.420 Um, 2023.

00:50:51.960 So if you go back to.

00:50:53.840 I'm just going back to 15, because that's the one with Trump first time around that debate that that now, you know, famous, infamous debate was August of 15.

00:51:05.660 So it would that would mean the similar like the big first Republican debate could be as early as this August.

00:51:11.880 Right.

00:51:12.360 So April, that's four months away.

00:51:14.360 We could be four months away from the first big presidential debate member where they had like the junior debaters go first with a different team of anchors.

00:51:22.480 And then Brett and Chris Wallace and I went out with like the top 10.

00:51:25.020 It was like herding cats.

00:51:25.840 There were so many of them and it got crazy from there.

00:51:28.600 But that was it would be the equivalent of this August.

00:51:31.440 So it really is on.

00:51:33.420 And these guys should be out there perfecting their game.

00:51:36.220 They should be saying yes to as much as they can.

00:51:38.680 You know, it's like anything.

00:51:39.620 You get better at it.

00:51:40.380 The more you do it, the better you get.

00:51:42.420 So DeSantis is not doing particularly well in these interviews, but he'll get better if he tries more.

00:51:47.180 You know, you can't you got to just keep getting out there.

00:51:50.040 It doesn't have to be with me.

00:51:51.720 But get out there more because eventually you're going to have to.

00:51:55.440 Face the music.

00:51:56.880 OK, let's talk about Kamala Harris.

00:52:00.280 Women's History Month.

00:52:01.420 This is going so wrong on the left.

00:52:03.720 It's not even funny.

00:52:04.840 I mean, I wish just cancel it.

00:52:06.160 Right.

00:52:06.320 It's just bullshit.

00:52:06.960 Anyway, my kids are being subjected to this, too.

00:52:08.740 It's like it's Black History Month.

00:52:10.320 Now it's Women's History Month.

00:52:11.720 Now it's indigenous people.

00:52:13.420 Shut up.

00:52:14.200 Can we just learn?

00:52:15.300 You know, like we just can we get back to like math?

00:52:18.520 No, we cannot is the answer.

00:52:20.140 And it goes all the way up to the top.

00:52:22.060 You've got Kamala Harris out there who she's having a banner, a banner month, offering her typically totally uninspirational remarks on, in this particular case, Women's History Month.

00:52:34.980 And then this weird video in which she tried to celebrate Women's History Month by celebrating all these women who achieved historic firsts.

00:52:44.260 But the only requirement was that you be a Democrat.

00:52:47.680 If you were a Republican who'd achieved anything, you were fucking gone.

00:52:51.440 Sorry.

00:52:52.000 Sorry, Mom.

00:52:52.620 Lent, still on.

00:52:53.360 Anyway, let's take a look.

00:52:56.720 So during Women's History Month, we celebrate and we honor the women who made history throughout history, who saw what could be unburdened by what had been.

00:53:10.960 OK, so I do we have the do we have the one where she that was totally uninspirational.

00:53:16.540 So, oh, OK.

00:53:17.960 All right.

00:53:18.160 Let's look at the one where she does the tribute to the great women.

00:53:23.000 Women, they are the backbone of our democracy and I stand on their shoulders.

00:53:27.300 First woman to serve as governor, presidential candidate.

00:53:30.460 Black woman to run for vice, run for vice president.

00:53:32.960 Asian American woman to serve in the House.

00:53:34.580 Black woman appointed to the federal judiciary.

00:53:36.840 Black woman elected to Congress.

00:53:38.460 I'm going through the list.

00:53:39.560 African American woman elected mayor.

00:53:41.320 Woman and Asian American ever elected Senate.

00:53:43.040 Senate Arab American woman elected Congress, African American woman to serve in presidential candidate.

00:53:47.260 First woman to be attorney general.

00:53:48.380 Oh, you can get it if you're just a woman.

00:53:49.740 First woman to be secretary of state.

00:53:50.920 First woman to be speaker of the House.

00:53:52.040 All Democrats.

00:53:53.060 And it goes on from here.

00:53:54.900 However, sadly, Kamala Harris forgot some important women in her tribute.

00:54:01.100 First woman to receive a party nomination, Hillary Clinton.

00:54:03.560 Oh, really?

00:54:04.140 OK, because I am old enough to remember when Geraldine Ferraro was the first woman to receive a party's nomination and wind up on the presidential ticket.

00:54:12.020 She was a Democrat.

00:54:13.160 Why'd she get ignored?

00:54:14.240 Because what?

00:54:14.960 You just wanted to save it for Hillary?

00:54:16.700 You wanted to talk about yourself being the first to create history in the vice presidential role?

00:54:21.720 It wasn't you.

00:54:23.180 It wasn't you.

00:54:24.520 Not in this.

00:54:25.120 She.

00:54:25.880 Yes, to win, but not to get the nomination.

00:54:28.460 Geraldine went and then Sarah Palin went before you did, Kamala.

00:54:32.000 You were the first to win.

00:54:33.300 But it wasn't Hillary.

00:54:34.540 That's for sure.

00:54:35.880 We could go down the list.

00:54:38.020 Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

00:54:39.780 The first woman, first woman to ever sit on the U.S. Supreme Court, ignored, ignored.

00:54:48.100 Sonia Sotomayor, she gets a shout out.

00:54:50.800 Why?

00:54:51.420 First Latina woman.

00:54:53.320 So being a woman doesn't matter in Women's History Month.

00:54:57.680 You have to have an extra.

00:54:59.580 You see, you don't count if you're just a white woman.

00:55:02.960 You got to have an extra to make Kamala Harris's tribute video to women.

00:55:08.060 Amala, this one, I'm sorry, this one really actually does piss me off.

00:55:12.720 Yeah, they're totally bent towards people who share their ideology and their dogma.

00:55:18.600 Another addition that you could have as a woman that will get you accolades on Women's History Month is a penis.

00:55:24.000 So I think we should also acknowledge that during their Women's Courage Awards, this administration gave an award to a biological male as a woman who symbolizes courage.

00:55:36.180 So I don't know that they have any ground to stand on for encouraging women, supporting women in any ways, being feminist with the things that they're doing on the sidelines.

00:55:45.020 I'm very passionate about this issue, clearly, because they clearly do not have women's best interests at heart and they show it every chance that they get.

00:55:52.360 But when it's Women's History Month, yeah, let's throw out the awards and support our own dogma and ideology.

00:55:57.160 God forbid a Republican woman is ever held on the same pedestal that we put the Democrats on.

00:56:02.220 I can't believe that they eliminated the first woman on the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:56:06.260 I mean, how do you eliminate her and you go down all the first woman to get a major nomination?

00:56:10.880 OK, the nomination is bigger to you than actually sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:56:14.380 No. And you do clearly care about the Supreme Court because you wound up going to Sotomayor.

00:56:18.680 Right. But but the first woman on that doesn't matter to you.

00:56:21.480 OK, they did the same thing when it comes to a first woman in Congress.

00:56:24.880 They honored the first woman of color to be elected in Congress in 1965, Representative Patsy Mink, Democrat.

00:56:32.160 But they ignored Representative Jeanette Rankin, who was the first woman elected to Congress back in 1916.

00:56:39.720 She happened to be, guess, wait for it, a Republican.

00:56:42.560 This is so absurd. It shows you just everything you hate about politics and frankly, about Kamala Harris, Evita.

00:56:48.560 Yeah. It's so it's so true. They they completely snub conservative Republican women.

00:56:54.100 They've been doing this for years now. I don't I don't even I don't think it's just who they snub.

00:56:58.740 It's also the abuse. Right. If you're a conservative woman, what happened to Sarah Palin?

00:57:03.660 I was little at the time when she was running the abuse that she endured at the hands of Democrats was unprecedented.

00:57:09.520 And she's supposed to be, you know, the woman running for vice president.

00:57:13.320 That's a huge deal to them. Right. I mean, identity politics is everything.

00:57:17.640 And yet, if you don't share the same ideology as them, you you are you know, you will you will be subjected to horrible abuse.

00:57:25.980 Also, Clarence Thomas, what he went through as he was trying to be appointed to the Supreme Court.

00:57:30.900 They do it to black people as well. You're not a real black person.

00:57:33.960 If you if you vote Republican, if you have conservative values, it's so twisted.

00:57:39.020 It's so wrong. And it it really shows how transparently this is not about identity politics.

00:57:44.640 It's entirely about ideology and using people's immutable qualities like race and gender and sexual orientation to then usher in the equity politics that really matters to them.

00:57:56.640 Mm hmm. And by the way, the the like the the limitation on on color and Republicans applies at the governor level to several of women of color,

00:58:09.740 quoting from the Fox News article, writing this up, several women of color were commemorated in their various positions in public office as being the first.

00:58:17.320 Like we're celebrating the first, as I pointed out, a person of color who is a woman in the Congress, but not governor.

00:58:25.360 I mean, by any measure, a governor has more power than some lowly congressperson.

00:58:30.140 It's like just do the math. But weirdly, they decided not to celebrate the first two women of color to ever occupy the highest state offices,

00:58:40.260 which who were Republicans, Nikki Haley of South Carolina and Susanna Martinez of New Mexico back in 2011, totally omitted from Kamala Harris's list.

00:58:49.400 What do you mean? I thought we were obsessed with identity politics. Let's do this thing.

00:58:52.980 Let's come on, Nikki Haley. Let's know because she's got the little R after her name.

00:58:58.180 And also her problem is she's running for president. God forbid we do anything to help her.

00:59:02.200 Right. They don't want to have these images up of women who are, you know, building these accolades and achieving them simply because they're Republican.

00:59:11.640 I'm over all of the identity politics. I don't want to see, oh, the first woman of color to do this or the first woman to take on this position.

00:59:18.080 I want it all just clean slate, blank, even the playing field, because that's what this country is supposed to be about.

00:59:23.600 It's not equity. It's equality. We're done with this.

00:59:25.980 I don't want to be revered as a woman of color who's, you know, having a podcast or whatever.

00:59:31.960 Nobody wants this. At least no reasonable person wants this.

00:59:35.680 I would love to see it all ushered out along with Women's History Month. It's B. It's BS.

00:59:40.220 Yes, it's true, because what they ask for in the next breath is special treatment.

00:59:44.320 You know, like, oh, you know, the woman needs an extra leg up for the following reason or certainly the woman of color.

00:59:50.180 She needs extras that, you know, the rest of the folks don't get.

00:59:52.500 And it's why you get all these, like, race fakers now everywhere.

00:59:56.660 It's like the New York Post had a great article just today.

00:59:58.760 I don't know what I did with it, but it was a great piece on yet another woman.

01:00:01.540 She's a big Hollywood producer who's been faking the fact that she purports to be a Native American and she's not.

01:00:07.660 I mean, we have one of these a day now, Evita.

01:00:09.920 Everybody's trying to pretend that they're a minority of some sort because America is so racist that we're so racist that people need to now pretend that they're a minority.

01:00:18.080 That's how racist we are. Here it is.

01:00:19.400 Well, it's pure Hollywood fiction, says the Post.

01:00:24.080 She's a this is a great new term.

01:00:25.560 We talked about it last week.

01:00:26.640 She's a pretendian.

01:00:27.960 She's a pretendian.

01:00:29.200 And this is the woman who she was the one who I think gave the award.

01:00:34.560 What was the name of the woman who gave?

01:00:36.860 Yes.

01:00:37.140 Yes. She gave Littlefeather the award, like recognizing that she was treated poorly by the Academy because she accepted the Marlon Brando Oscar.

01:00:46.620 Right. Am I getting my facts right for The Godfather?

01:00:48.560 And then it turned out that Littlefeather was a faker, too.

01:00:51.060 She was also pretendian.

01:00:52.560 She wasn't even a real Native American.

01:00:54.340 And this is the woman who gave her the honor.

01:00:56.620 And this woman's not a pretend.

01:00:58.080 She's a pretendian, too.

01:00:59.140 She's also not a real.

01:01:00.300 I can't give track.

01:01:01.040 Right. They're pushing racism and saying how racist of a country we are all the time.

01:01:07.040 We need to have all these special treatments and programs and awards and nominations for people with certain skin colors or certain sexualities or genders.

01:01:20.200 And then the opposite has actually come true.

01:01:22.180 So in the early years of America, there was a there was a push to, you know, be white passing.

01:01:27.900 And now it's the opposite.

01:01:29.040 You have white people pretending that they are Native American or pretending like they're black.

01:01:33.900 Rachel Dolezar, I think, was the major queen of pretending to be a black person.

01:01:38.900 She's not.

01:01:40.120 And so it's it's it's actually evidence that we are not we're not racist, that there's not this this this boosting up of white people because they're all pretending to be something else that they're not.

01:01:53.320 So I think it's so it's so sad that we've had to devolve into this and try and fabricate race politics where there's really no need for it.

01:02:02.320 And I also think there's a there's a point that it devalues the accomplishments of of Native American people, of black people, of Hispanic people.

01:02:09.920 When when you have, for instance, at universities where where you are, you know, accepted for these diversity numbers and suddenly then there's a perception on campus that if you're a black person or or a Hispanic person at Harvard or Yale, that you only got there because of your race.

01:02:24.180 It devalues your degree.

01:02:25.800 I think it's actually insulting to people of color that that you're you're going to put all these special accommodations for them.

01:02:32.380 So it's it's it's both ridiculous and also harmful.

01:02:35.860 Yeah. So you're I love the fact that now it's not enough to be like a woman.

01:02:39.740 You have to be a woman plus as the Kamala Harris, unless you're a Republican, then that disqualifies you altogether.

01:02:45.000 You can follow the tree like woman.

01:02:47.760 Yes. OK, you're in the potential running.

01:02:49.760 But next question. Also, minority of some type.

01:02:52.440 Yes. OK, you're looking really good.

01:02:54.700 Republican. And you're out.

01:02:57.260 No, that's where the big hammer comes out and hits you in the head.

01:03:00.060 Um, however, the tree would also say, like, woman.

01:03:04.420 Yes. Have a penis. Yes.

01:03:06.480 Congratulations. Welcome to Women's History Month.

01:03:08.800 And that brings me to Leah Thomas.

01:03:10.420 I am sick of the Leah Thomas and the Dylan Mulvaney awards and celebrations.

01:03:16.220 I'm sick of it.

01:03:17.660 Kamala Harris wrote a personal letter to Dylan Mulvaney, this trans woman, biological man,

01:03:24.260 celebrating Dylan's 365 days of girlhood.

01:03:29.040 Stop it.

01:03:30.060 Stop it right now. Right.

01:03:31.540 OK, like, no, um, that doesn't get celebrated.

01:03:35.520 I mean, by statistics, Dylan could still go back to being a man.

01:03:38.620 Dylan could de-transition and go back to the prices.

01:03:40.940 Right, Dylan?

01:03:41.500 We all saw on that viral Twitter clip any day now.

01:03:44.360 But no, we've got the vice president of the United States reaching out to celebrate 365 days of girlhood,

01:03:48.460 which is a lie.

01:03:49.280 Dylan hasn't had a girlhood.

01:03:50.540 Dylan is a biological man who had a boyhood.

01:03:52.180 Um, and then you get, and then you get, um, Leah Thomas.

01:03:56.420 So Leah Thomas has been, is being celebrated, uh, by ESPN as part of Women's History Month.

01:04:05.600 Do we have the clip?

01:04:06.620 Just looking.

01:04:07.100 Yes, we do.

01:04:07.740 We've got their tribute to Leah Thomas in Sop 5.

01:04:11.420 Thomas made her debut as a member of the women's team in December 2021.

01:04:17.300 Being trans is, is not a choice.

01:04:19.540 I didn't have any other choice because not transitioning was not leading me anywhere.

01:04:26.880 She competed amidst criticism from the swimming community, competitors, and teammates.

01:04:32.140 She said she hopes her persistence serves a larger purpose.

01:04:36.220 People will say, oh, she just transitioned, so she would have an advantage so she could win.

01:04:41.480 I transitioned to be happy.

01:04:45.120 Okay.

01:04:46.300 We've, we've gone too far.

01:04:48.240 Amal.

01:04:48.460 We've, I, they want tolerance.

01:04:52.040 We want tolerance.

01:04:53.440 We want tolerance for our spaces and our awards and our sports.

01:04:58.700 This Leah Thomas has got severe mental issues.

01:05:01.660 If you read the daily wire, uh, piece that we check all the time to see whether she's denied

01:05:06.700 it, Leah's denied it, whether Leah says it's not true, whether Leah's filed.

01:05:10.620 We're wide open.

01:05:11.540 Leah is a true or isn't it all the daily wire reporting about your weird fetishes and how you

01:05:16.000 get off on putting on women's clothes and going out there in front of other women?

01:05:20.560 Like, is it true or isn't it?

01:05:22.000 Read the daily wire piece.

01:05:23.360 Um, the fact that they're now after the indignity of subjecting all these swimmers to Leah Thomas

01:05:29.540 now asking us to celebrate Leah Thomas as one of the women who we should be stopping to pause

01:05:34.780 and celebrate on women's month.

01:05:36.420 No, they've gone too far.

01:05:38.920 Oh, absolutely.

01:05:39.960 They've gone too far.

01:05:40.660 When I see anything regarding trends issues, I'm honestly disgusted at just how far it has gone in

01:05:46.620 terms of oppression being currency.

01:05:48.440 If you look at Leah Thomas and Dylan Mulvaney, these are two people who have risen to stardom

01:05:53.680 faster than anybody else in this country, simply by virtue of taking on an identity that is not

01:05:59.160 theirs to own.

01:06:00.300 But like I say, nobody does womanhood like a man, apparently.

01:06:02.900 And they are now breaking glass ceilings in their respective arenas of sports and performing.

01:06:08.580 And it is just amazing to see their meteoric rise by simply saying, I'm a man who identifies

01:06:13.960 as a woman.

01:06:14.980 Leah Thomas beating out all these women in the NCAA with even stories of Leah Thomas's fellow

01:06:21.340 competitors saying, hey, we are seeing a naked man in our locker room and it's being completely

01:06:26.380 ignored.

01:06:27.260 Dylan Mulvaney being invited to the White House to have a question back and forth with with

01:06:32.480 President Biden, as well as this famous letter now from Kamala Harris.

01:06:35.880 It's just ridiculous how these people are being heard out, being pedestalized when they are directly

01:06:42.520 contributing to the erasure of womanhood.

01:06:45.380 The Leah Thomas reporting on the Daily Wire, Evita, has got posts that

01:06:51.300 someone they believe is Leah Thomas.

01:06:54.860 And again, she has not denied this.

01:06:57.960 Thumbs up being this like basically it's this autogynephilia where you're it's a male's

01:07:03.920 propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female.

01:07:08.300 And there are all these images liked by who we believe is Leah Thomas, though it's spelled

01:07:12.740 differently, but it's linked back to Leah Thomas's actual girlfriend and so on, where

01:07:17.780 there's a clearly a male dresses, a woman looking at themselves in the mirror as like

01:07:22.740 a cartoon character with a full on erection.

01:07:25.360 I mean, kinky, weird stuff.

01:07:27.980 And if Leah Thomas is really just a man who has a propensity to be sexually aroused by the

01:07:32.940 thought of himself as a female, and then they subjected all these poor female swimmers to

01:07:37.080 both that weirdness in the locker room, not to mention Leah dominating all the records,

01:07:41.780 they're owed an apology, not a celebration of this person.

01:07:47.440 Absolutely.

01:07:48.160 And ESPN should be ashamed of itself for pushing this this agenda on on on young people and

01:07:55.060 all of their viewers.

01:07:55.820 And it's it's so wrong to all of the women who were who competed, who are real women,

01:07:59.800 who worked really hard and had their dreams crushed by Leah Thomas.

01:08:04.920 Also, also the I had also to bring up Dylan Mulvaney and his he did a weird video where he was

01:08:10.340 dressing up as Eloise, this like, my God, I saw a little girl, right?

01:08:15.720 He's he's dressing up like a little girl.

01:08:17.720 This is totally a fetish.

01:08:19.600 It's totally weird sexual behavior.

01:08:23.240 And even the whole his whole name that, you know, blank days of girlhood or becoming a

01:08:29.960 girl.

01:08:30.280 You're not even if you were transitioning.

01:08:32.240 Why wouldn't he say a woman?

01:08:33.560 Why is it a girl?

01:08:34.960 That's a really odd thing.

01:08:36.380 And now they become, you know, like a grown man is right.

01:08:40.560 But also, you know, become examples for young children.

01:08:45.440 And I think it's just so damaging.

01:08:47.380 And you have young you have, you know, activists from the 60s who sort of said, you know, we're

01:08:52.220 going to have equality between men and women trying to blur the lines between distinctions

01:08:56.980 between men and women.

01:08:57.920 And now I think we've seen that that's really backfired.

01:09:01.600 And now people can't say what is and isn't a woman like you saw from the Matt Wall, the

01:09:07.080 famous Matt Walsh documentary.

01:09:08.520 No one can say what it is.

01:09:09.760 And the losers and the victims are women.

01:09:13.340 You know, I make a distinction between Leah Thomas and Dylan Mulvaney in the following way.

01:09:17.300 I think Leah Thomas has got issues.

01:09:19.900 As I said, I think this is somebody working out their kink on America and its female swimmers.

01:09:27.320 I think Leah Thomas was a middling at best male swimmer and was like in the mid four to

01:09:34.760 mid five hundreds ranked.

01:09:36.700 And then apparently because of all the likes that Leah Thomas has put to this agey whatever

01:09:42.180 situation and all the, you know, men in their dresses with hard on staring at themselves

01:09:48.400 in the mirror.

01:09:48.920 I mean, it's very strange if that's what you get off on and you get sexually aroused by

01:09:53.840 dressing as a woman and then you want to parade around in a woman's locker room.

01:09:56.160 There's an issue.

01:09:57.380 I think Dylan Mulvaney wanted to be a star.

01:10:01.260 And the reason I I'm landing here is that prices price is right video.

01:10:06.540 I saw this video.

01:10:08.180 It was I'll show it, but it's been all over Twitter.

01:10:10.820 And I thought, OK, this version of Dylan, I really like this version of Dylan is fun and

01:10:17.080 kind of charming.

01:10:17.740 And it's an obviously gay male who's gender nonconforming.

01:10:21.540 Right.

01:10:22.040 He looks a little bit more like a woman.

01:10:23.580 I love this version of Dylan.

01:10:24.880 There is a place in America for this version of Dylan that Dylan did not have to cross over

01:10:29.260 into trying to actually be a woman to be accepted.

01:10:33.940 But he did to be a star, which is clearly what he wanted.

01:10:39.320 If you look at the moment, he won this particular game on prices right here.

01:10:43.080 It has been the wheel.

01:10:46.040 You get to spin the wheel.

01:10:46.740 But guess what?

01:10:47.660 You get a second chance in this game first.

01:10:49.620 No way.

01:10:50.120 Oh, my God.

01:10:51.000 Oh, my God.

01:10:51.560 I'm still in it.

01:10:52.800 You got it.

01:10:54.280 Dylan's a winner.

01:10:55.820 Dylan's a winner.

01:10:57.380 Dylan, nice job, man.

01:10:58.660 What do you make of it, Amala?

01:11:10.620 Because I see that.

01:11:11.360 I say, yes, Dylan's fun.

01:11:12.920 Dylan's Dylan likes to be the center of attention.

01:11:15.180 Dylan is a nonconforming, gender nonconforming, likely gay man.

01:11:18.480 Fine.

01:11:19.020 Great.

01:11:19.400 We've had that in America forever.

01:11:21.280 Yes.

01:11:21.660 50 years ago, it was a different story.

01:11:22.980 But in today's day and age, that's fine.

01:11:24.580 And beloved, you'd be the hit of most parties.

01:11:26.460 But Dylan, since transitioning over to being, quote, a woman, has made bank.

01:11:34.340 Dylan's now getting to meet the president of the United States, getting letters from

01:11:38.180 the vice president of the United States, getting celebrated in primetime specials on NBC for

01:11:42.740 being, quote, a girl.

01:11:44.000 I mean, it's crazy what's happened in that 365 days.

01:11:48.900 I think you're absolutely right, Megan.

01:11:50.060 This is exactly what Dylan wanted for his life.

01:11:52.740 I was one of the first podcasters to ever talk about Dylan when he was up and rising

01:11:56.700 on TikTok.

01:11:57.740 And it was criticism that had been levied towards him many times before.

01:12:01.460 But because it came from a podcast, he made a whole TikTok video crying about all the hate

01:12:06.780 that he was getting from a conservative podcaster and basically mobilizing his fans to fan the

01:12:13.940 flames of a few to throw hatred towards me.

01:12:17.220 And if you look into Dylan's past, I mean, he is a performer.

01:12:20.720 He's been in musical theater, a very famous musical by the name of Book of Mormon.

01:12:24.540 He has wanted to be an actor for quite some time and details his life in L.A., traveling

01:12:29.260 around to two different auditions.

01:12:31.100 You have that Price is Right video.

01:12:33.220 You have old videos of him attempting to be a comedian on TikTok and Instagram.

01:12:37.060 And his very first video of day one of being a girl or day one of girlhood was a comedic

01:12:43.100 video where he took cheap shots of at stereotypes of females saying, I wrote a scathing letter

01:12:48.620 that I'm never going to send.

01:12:50.180 I told everybody that I was fine when I wasn't.

01:12:52.200 And now that Dylan has chosen to transition, I think largely due to the popularity of his

01:12:57.360 videos and the backing of a very strong dogma based audience, he's now selling out shows.

01:13:04.300 He just recently did a musical performance for the Trevor Project, and it was so popular

01:13:10.300 that the streaming sites that were trying to access this performance crashed because

01:13:14.440 of how many people wanted to see him.

01:13:16.020 And that's exactly what he loves.

01:13:17.400 It's what he wants to hear.

01:13:18.440 And he will feed into this transition as long as he can to to garner this audience.

01:13:24.440 We have some of that from the Rainbow Room, the NBC building.

01:13:27.320 Watch.

01:13:30.400 I'm going to say something that might make people feel a little bit uncomfortable.

01:13:34.300 Um, I'm trying really hard to maintain a relationship with God.

01:13:39.940 And I don't think that he made a mistake with me.

01:13:43.360 Um, and that maybe one day I will actually be grateful for being trans.

01:13:49.860 That this isn't some curse, but it's just a different path to the same destination.

01:13:55.820 Be running up that road.

01:13:59.960 Oh, my God.

01:14:00.780 Be running up that hill.

01:14:02.840 Be running up that building.

01:14:07.200 If I only could.

01:14:15.460 Notice that there were no tears and he wasn't wavering at all while he was singing.

01:14:19.160 There was no crying behind the singing at all.

01:14:20.820 That is the most cynical clip I've ever seen in my life, Amala.

01:14:26.620 The acting like God didn't make a mistake.

01:14:30.120 Correct.

01:14:31.100 God didn't make a mistake on you.

01:14:32.880 You're a man.

01:14:34.080 You are a man.

01:14:34.860 That's why he put you in a man's body and you can be a gender nonconforming gay man.

01:14:38.400 And there's nothing wrong with that.

01:14:39.760 You didn't need to cross over.

01:14:40.880 You did it for bucks for big dollars and big attention, which is your real drug of choice.

01:14:45.980 And to invoke the name of God, two seconds.

01:14:49.780 I mean, I like I he kind of had me.

01:14:53.040 He was like luring me in Amala for a second.

01:14:55.680 I'm like, oh, God, that's I mean, oh, no, no, no, no, no.

01:15:00.700 Yeah.

01:15:01.660 Don't let him do it, Megan.

01:15:02.920 Don't let him lure you in.

01:15:04.060 He is an actor and a trained actor at that.

01:15:06.800 And you better believe he's going to be headlining some Broadway show.

01:15:09.780 He's going to get his own TV show.

01:15:11.360 It is all acting.

01:15:12.960 That is what he does.

01:15:13.600 And notice there was a little bit of a Freudian slip in what he just said there.

01:15:17.360 He said that I'm moving towards the same path as I was as a man.

01:15:21.060 I'm just taking a different direction and getting there.

01:15:23.180 And it's a fast track.

01:15:24.260 It's a fast track to say I'm a woman.

01:15:26.400 Now I want to be a performer.

01:15:27.580 Now I want to be an actor.

01:15:28.500 And you better believe he's going to win at the end of the day because people are going

01:15:31.820 to just just bow at his feet to give him whatever he wants because of what he's done now.

01:15:36.760 Oh, my God.

01:15:37.360 It is one thing.

01:15:38.300 It is one thing.

01:15:39.220 If you want to say let's let's do another month since we have a month for everybody.

01:15:43.120 Right.

01:15:43.880 Little people month.

01:15:44.880 Whatever month.

01:15:45.860 Let's do another.

01:15:46.380 But let's do a trans month if we must.

01:15:48.020 OK, but get out of our month.

01:15:50.140 Get Dylan.

01:15:51.200 Get the fuck out of our month.

01:15:53.960 Again, get out of our month.

01:15:57.880 It's he's not a woman.

01:15:59.480 Dylan is not a woman.

01:16:00.500 And so that's what's so annoying is like, OK, so Dylan's got to be come over and get celebrated

01:16:05.120 as a trans person.

01:16:06.200 Fine.

01:16:06.600 If that's your thing, but not as a woman.

01:16:08.600 That's not what Dylan is.

01:16:10.320 And that's to your point.

01:16:11.720 If we just played the video, Canadian Debbie pulled it up of Dylan is Eloise, which is sick.

01:16:16.680 How old is Dylan?

01:16:17.500 Does anybody know how old Dylan is?

01:16:18.660 He's 28.

01:16:19.540 I think 28 years old around that age.

01:16:22.240 Yeah.

01:16:22.400 So what we're seeing here is a biological man in a short skirt as Eloise, the famous

01:16:28.420 child's character, 26, showing the back of the thigh, the front of the thigh, rolling

01:16:34.100 around in a bed, acting as like a little girl's character.

01:16:36.960 I mean, I have a little girl.

01:16:37.800 I had to read Eloise.

01:16:38.740 It's a sweet tradition that a lot of us do with our girls, especially if you live in

01:16:42.460 Manhattan, because she's Eloise lives at the plaza and he's got to corrupt it.

01:16:47.480 Right.

01:16:47.640 So now Dylan's got to corrupt that by a 26 year old grown man dressing as this child's

01:16:52.660 character, skipping around.

01:16:54.260 And what do you get for that?

01:16:55.500 Oh, you get you get put on NBC.

01:16:58.200 Right.

01:16:58.420 Isn't that where the Rainbow Room event was or was it just at their building?

01:17:02.500 So you get you get celebrated at their building.

01:17:04.780 You get letters from the president of the United States or the vice president.

01:17:07.260 You get invited to go interview the president and so on.

01:17:11.000 Yeah.

01:17:11.500 And how and who and who is this targeted at is a real question.

01:17:14.500 I mean, like it's you dressed up as a child's character.

01:17:17.900 So, I mean, that and this is what Ron DeSantis has been doing in Florida is actually trying

01:17:22.380 to fight this at a legal level because so many young people are being influenced by Dylan

01:17:27.660 Mulvaney, by by Leah Thomas, who they find inspiring, by all these other trans activists

01:17:32.240 who are all over TikTok and all over Instagram and all over YouTube, convincing them that if

01:17:36.640 you feel at all insecure about your body, which is a very normal thing as a young person,

01:17:41.080 especially right before puberty and as you're going through puberty, if you feel at all

01:17:44.380 uncomfortable, that might be a sign that you need to chemically castrate yourself and mutilate

01:17:49.000 your body.

01:17:49.600 I mean, that's and that's the message that they're getting.

01:17:51.840 And they think that that's going to make them happy.

01:17:53.420 In reality, you just got to get through these years where it's kind of tough as as a young

01:17:58.280 person.

01:17:58.600 And then you'll become an adult and you'll figure out who you are.

01:18:01.040 But they're not going to give they're not given that chance because not just we have

01:18:05.400 activists doing this, we have giant media corporations like ABC and NBC and MSNBC and

01:18:11.540 now ESPN pushing this, our own president of the state's pushing this, telling us that this

01:18:16.080 kind of behavior is normal.

01:18:18.100 And again, like I said, a lot of their content is catered towards children who end up being

01:18:23.140 the real victims because they don't know any better.

01:18:24.980 They don't they don't have the the brain development to even know that what they're going through is

01:18:29.580 not really a transgender crisis.

01:18:33.000 It's just being young and growing up.

01:18:35.140 Right.

01:18:35.660 Honestly, I would love for there to be a banner beneath Leah Thomas when when Leah's standing

01:18:40.060 in the winner's circle with this, what Leah's into.

01:18:43.680 Let me show you what Leah likes online.

01:18:45.400 Little, you know, little photos of men in dresses with erections.

01:18:49.340 That's who Leah is.

01:18:50.260 Leah appears to get off sexually on men who dress as women.

01:18:55.980 That's what Leah appears to be working out based on the Daily Wire reporting.

01:18:59.580 Again, waiting for a denial.

01:19:01.000 Would love to hear from you, Leah.

01:19:02.200 If it's not true, let us know.

01:19:03.900 We're happy to report that.

01:19:05.480 No, all we get is a celebration of this person as some sort of an example for our young girls

01:19:11.620 to look up to or for young boys to want to be.

01:19:16.580 Fully corrupt women's sports.

01:19:18.420 More the more the merrier.

01:19:20.000 If I were a female cyclist right now, I would never cycle again.

01:19:24.920 I have a daughter.

01:19:25.880 I wouldn't put her in cycling.

01:19:26.900 I would not.

01:19:27.640 And she's very athletic.

01:19:28.800 I would not encourage the men are taking over women's cycling.

01:19:32.480 There are certain sports, you know, from track to swimming to cycling where these biological

01:19:38.440 men see an opportunity.

01:19:39.340 I said this on Twitter.

01:19:40.060 I've said it before.

01:19:40.860 I'll say here again.

01:19:42.180 What we need is one one true hero, a college man who's a top tennis player.

01:19:50.240 You could be division two.

01:19:51.220 You don't even have to be division one.

01:19:52.200 You'll crush all the women on the pro tour, just a division two college tennis playing

01:19:57.680 man who's willing to do the hormone suppression for, I think it's just a year, just a year.

01:20:03.900 Get the hormones down.

01:20:05.160 They can go back up, right?

01:20:06.580 Presumably.

01:20:06.940 Or ideally, maybe you just are kind of trans and you're, but you would never think of playing

01:20:12.520 in the women's thing.

01:20:13.080 We'll do it.

01:20:13.820 Play in the women's anyway.

01:20:15.020 Play in the women's for me.

01:20:16.040 Please do it.

01:20:16.560 Because as soon as Coco Gauff or, you know, Serena Williams starts losing in women's tennis,

01:20:25.000 then they'll start listening to us.

01:20:26.960 Then they will listen and they will say no more of this charade.

01:20:30.760 This is an absurdity to be letting men take over women's sports.

01:20:36.580 Yeah, I had hoped for the longest time that Leah Thomas was just a troll and he was going

01:20:41.060 to go out and win a competition and then turn around and say, look at how ridiculous you

01:20:45.000 are for letting me do this.

01:20:46.540 Look at how possessed you are by your ideology for letting me do this.

01:20:49.880 And unfortunately, that was not the case.

01:20:51.460 And I think other men now are looking at Leah Thomas and saying, this is an example and

01:20:55.760 this is what I'm going to do because I want to win sports.

01:20:57.820 And maybe tennis would be the straw that breaks the camel's back and somebody should be a

01:21:03.300 hero and go ahead and do that.

01:21:04.740 But I want people to also know that it's not just about sports.

01:21:08.080 A lot of people look at these stories and go, oh, well, why do you care so much about

01:21:10.740 women's sports?

01:21:11.400 Nobody's watching it anyways.

01:21:12.780 But it's not just about that.

01:21:14.260 This represents a very strong, slippery slope where now if you accept this in sports,

01:21:17.960 you are accepting the general idea that women can take that men can take on the identity

01:21:22.120 of women and go into all of their spaces.

01:21:24.440 We're talking bathrooms.

01:21:25.700 In the case of Leah Thomas, we are talking locker rooms in New Jersey.

01:21:28.940 We're talking prisons where men who are convicted of sexual assault against women are now raising

01:21:35.220 their hands, saying, I identify as a woman.

01:21:37.560 They're filling out some BS paperwork.

01:21:39.500 They're being sent over to women's prisons and they are assaulting women.

01:21:42.720 We now have stories of two women getting pregnant in a New Jersey prison.

01:21:45.780 So you have to think about where you accept this sort of ideology.

01:21:49.020 And although it might just be in sports and women are losing awards that I guess people

01:21:53.300 don't care about, it's going to progress further in every facet of our society.

01:21:57.040 It needs to be an award that they do care about.

01:21:59.740 And in a money making sport like women's tennis, people do pay attention to people like Serena

01:22:05.360 Williams.

01:22:05.940 They celebrate her.

01:22:07.160 You know, there are stars on that women's tennis campaign.

01:22:10.380 And if they were to lose, which they absolutely would to a biological man who says that he

01:22:16.820 is a woman for one year or two days, whatever, does the hormone therapy because there's a

01:22:22.180 minimal requirement to actually play in women's tennis.

01:22:24.880 I think it's just about your testosterone levels.

01:22:27.220 It's not about the fact that you went through male puberty.

01:22:29.220 You played as a college man.

01:22:30.820 No problem.

01:22:31.580 Those are not impediments to you.

01:22:33.640 Then they'd have to listen.

01:22:34.740 Truly like when the love of like member, the hierarchy, are you a woman?

01:22:39.160 Yes.

01:22:39.900 Are you a minority woman?

01:22:40.800 Yes.

01:22:41.120 Great.

01:22:41.480 Well, are you a Democrat?

01:22:42.400 Yes.

01:22:42.960 Serena.

01:22:43.560 Welcome.

01:22:43.980 Right.

01:22:44.100 Like this is one of the reasons she's the queen.

01:22:45.940 Right.

01:22:46.140 And she's an amazing tennis player.

01:22:47.680 Somebody like that.

01:22:48.640 I realize she just retired.

01:22:49.860 Oh, take Coco, take Naomi Osaka, whatever.

01:22:53.320 If one of those women so celebrated by the left went down to a man, then we'd say that's

01:22:59.360 where the rubber meets the road.

01:23:00.560 Right.

01:23:01.260 What?

01:23:01.940 How does the identity hierarchy actually stand up?

01:23:05.120 Are you actually going to side with the biological man in the women's arena at this level?

01:23:12.860 And if it matters at that level, then it matters for the cyclist and it matters for the

01:23:17.220 frisbee player we had on and all like it matters for it matters for the girls trying

01:23:21.880 to run track in Connecticut who got screwed over by boys who did nothing to transition.

01:23:27.520 Nothing.

01:23:28.000 No hormones, no surgeries, zero from season to season.

01:23:32.820 They went from boy to girl.

01:23:34.020 They crushed the girls.

01:23:35.660 The girls got a middle finger from the schools, from the courts, from the state.

01:23:40.900 Okay.

01:23:43.060 Take a break.

01:23:44.480 Take a break.

01:23:45.380 We're going to watch the Leah Thomas video again.

01:23:48.680 I mean, not Leah, the dilemma of Amy.

01:23:50.720 Not the Price is Right.

01:23:52.780 The new favorite is that Rainbow Room video.

01:23:55.260 I'm going to watch it.

01:23:55.820 I might play it for you again when we come back.

01:23:57.400 That is the most stunning thing I've ever seen.

01:23:59.180 Stand by.

01:23:59.960 More with the gals.

01:24:01.100 Actual gals.

01:24:02.120 After this.

01:24:05.860 Terrible news.

01:24:06.720 Out of Nashville or the area around it where a shooter opened fire at a private school,

01:24:13.660 a private Christian school this morning, killing six people.

01:24:18.400 Covenant School serves children.

01:24:20.320 Oh, Lord.

01:24:21.280 From preschool through sixth grade.

01:24:23.720 Police just held a news conference confirming some of the details.

01:24:26.080 Three children among those killed.

01:24:29.260 Three adults also murdered.

01:24:31.540 The authorities say the shooter was a female.

01:24:34.780 Police are still trying to identify her, but say it appears that she was in her teens.

01:24:40.000 The shooter entered through a side door and was armed with two assault rifles and a handgun.

01:24:45.680 Police responded to the scene and engaged the shooter.

01:24:48.020 She was killed.

01:24:49.180 It does not appear at this time that there are any other shooting victims.

01:24:52.720 Amala and Evita are still with me.

01:24:54.340 Gals, I don't think I remember another one of these in which the shooter was a girl, was a teenage girl.

01:25:02.080 That is totally against the profile that we see in every single one of these mass shootings.

01:25:08.220 I'm stunned.

01:25:09.440 The news is horrible.

01:25:11.740 Our hearts go out to those suffering right now.

01:25:14.060 Children, you can't help but think of Newtown when you're talking about elementary schoolers.

01:25:18.740 And I am in no way defending what happened here, but I also can't help but think about the crisis, the mental health crisis affecting teenage girls right now.

01:25:28.820 That is in the news every day in the wake of the pandemic and so on.

01:25:34.380 It's just we need to learn more.

01:25:37.200 But you know what's going to happen over the next 24 hours, don't you?

01:25:40.960 I mean, you know, right, Evita, it's going to go to guns.

01:25:46.520 All the left is going to go to guns and the gun laws in Tennessee.

01:25:50.660 And, you know, people on the right, I think, tend to stay open minded on is it a gun?

01:25:54.960 Show me the gun law that would have prevented it.

01:25:56.480 I'm open minded.

01:25:57.460 But if there isn't one, you know, then what?

01:26:00.580 And people like me who have been jumping up and down about mental health and how we identify these shooters before they become shooters and why we don't pay more attention to them.

01:26:08.660 And frankly, I'm a little bit more extreme because I'm also in favor of curtailing their civil liberties before they fire.

01:26:17.260 I'm not worried about upsetting their parents or them by confining them involuntarily once we've figured out that they might be a potential school shooter, as in so many of these cases.

01:26:28.920 Don't know about this one.

01:26:30.000 But in so many of these cases, there's been glaring warning signals about the person.

01:26:33.960 And we don't do anything about it because of their civil liberties and we don't care about the civil liberties of the second graders.

01:26:39.540 Yeah.

01:26:40.520 I mean, the Second Amendment, you're absolutely right, is going to be the first thing that's going to be discussed after this hits headlines.

01:26:48.380 And that's what happens transparently every time we see a shooting like this.

01:26:52.640 As soon as, you know, we hear the victims' names, Democrats are out with new legislation trying to undermine the Second Amendment.

01:26:59.900 And I think you're absolutely right.

01:27:02.440 Mental health is a huge part of this.

01:27:04.400 A huge, I mean, it's not, it's, you know, basic theology, right?

01:27:08.240 I mean, who's done the shooting?

01:27:10.100 Is it the gun shooting with itself or is it the person behind it?

01:27:13.000 And we always have to think about the person behind it.

01:27:15.380 And also think about how we report on these stories.

01:27:18.160 I don't know, this is brand new news.

01:27:19.980 I don't know exactly how the media has been handling it so far.

01:27:22.360 But in the past, they have been horrible about, you know, publicizing and bringing notoriety to these shooters, even their manifestos, and covering them back to back in a way that I think encourages other shooters in a way that I think sort of makes this a trend in America.

01:27:42.620 And I think the media has a huge role in encouraging this.

01:27:47.280 And it's not talked about enough.

01:27:49.240 Look at that picture.

01:27:50.600 Can we put that back up?

01:27:51.840 This is a picture of some of the students being evacuated from the building and holding hands, I think.

01:27:59.300 I'm trying to see up close, but running in like a single file out of the building, their little limbs, their little bodies.

01:28:08.100 It's at this Christian school where you know very well, Amala, that they did pray and that just like all kids now.

01:28:15.880 I mean, you gals are too young, but, you know, so many people out there have young children and they have to do these active shooter drills.

01:28:23.180 And the younger they are, the less they tell the children about what it is they're doing.

01:28:27.300 Why are we all gathering in the bathroom stall?

01:28:31.240 You know, the kids will ask you when they come home, you know, why did they make us, we had to all pile up on top of the toilet and try to hide our sneakers.

01:28:39.580 And, you know, we practice being very quiet and they don't tell them it's because somebody could come in here with a gun.

01:28:46.080 Here's another one.

01:28:46.760 Look how little they are, you guys.

01:28:48.240 It's just heartbreaking to me and it's heartbreaking to think that, as we all know, prayer has its limits and there is certain evil it cannot stop and it happened today.

01:29:00.000 No child should ever have to go through this or ever have to even ponder the possibility of having to go through this in school.

01:29:07.280 School is supposed to be a safe place and there's many things that are going to have to be addressed here.

01:29:11.600 The fact that this is a female is super disheartening and it might go towards a trend where this starts happening.

01:29:18.080 Like you said, female mental health and especially young women's mental health is on a rapid, rapid decline.

01:29:24.160 And if we're going to start to address it, that does not happen overnight.

01:29:27.780 Addressing mental health and especially the mental health of an entire generation.

01:29:30.980 This is going to take a lot of time and long and a long term agenda to really elevate young women and help them with whatever they are struggling with.

01:29:40.100 It's it's just horrifying to hear.

01:29:42.640 Horrendous. I grew up in Florida and was in high school at the time that the Parkland shooting happened.

01:29:47.200 And that turned everybody's world upside down.

01:29:49.720 Whether you were there or not, you felt for these children.

01:29:52.800 You felt for young people who now have to just ponder the possibility of something like this happening in our in our schools.

01:29:58.720 And it's I don't know the answer as far as solving it.

01:30:02.600 I don't know what the first step should be, but certainly the issue of mental health needs to be addressed here.

01:30:08.860 And you stated that she's probably a teenager here, I'm assuming below the age of 18.

01:30:13.720 So I'm not sure that gun laws are going to do anything to fix this.

01:30:16.640 If she has access to weapons at an age where it should be illegal.

01:30:20.280 How how do you solve that with gun legislation?

01:30:22.900 Mm hmm. Can I tell you, I sense a through line in everything we've been discussing.

01:30:27.240 It's making me upset because it's like so women's spaces are no longer sacred, right?

01:30:35.960 Whether it's the locker room or the track where they used to be able to run against other women and feel safe and feel like they didn't have to worry about competing against biological men.

01:30:44.540 I'm not comparing that to school to a school sheet shooting, but I'll tie it together.

01:30:47.860 So women are their their rights are being eroded.

01:30:51.320 They're they're being eroded and they're being erased.

01:30:54.740 They're being forgotten, diminished, erased when they try to speak up like they did in the case of Leah Thomas.

01:30:59.220 They were told to go get therapy.

01:31:00.900 You know, it's back to the 1950s.

01:31:02.340 You hysterical woman go get you don't have an actual problem.

01:31:05.420 You're just a lunatic.

01:31:06.240 Go get therapy to get over your upset as opposed to maybe you have a point.

01:31:10.780 Maybe you actually have a right that's been violated here that you have a right to offer a primal scream in response to its erasure.

01:31:18.540 Right. Maybe there's maybe there's something there there that we need to listen to.

01:31:21.660 And and, you know, the awards right going no longer to every every spot that's taken by a trans person is one that didn't go to a woman.

01:31:29.700 And that's why Riley Gaines, the swimmer who lost to Leah Thomas or tied with Leah Thomas and wasn't given the trophy.

01:31:34.300 They gave it to Leah Thomas for the photo op has been speaking out, saying this is absurd.

01:31:38.000 Why? Why not me? Why people are why women are retiring?

01:31:40.580 Like there's a famous cyclist who just said, I'm out.

01:31:42.520 I'm out because the biological men are taking like and now you see women.

01:31:47.300 What happens to us?

01:31:49.540 We objectify ourselves.

01:31:51.120 We get objectified nonstop.

01:31:52.780 We go on social media.

01:31:53.880 You know who's being damaged by social media?

01:31:56.180 Fucking girls.

01:31:56.980 I'm sorry, but it's girls.

01:31:58.860 It's not the boys.

01:32:00.380 Sometimes, yes, but the guys, the boys playing the games all day

01:32:03.100 leads to a different problem.

01:32:04.900 The girls who get depressed are the ones who are on Instagram all day long

01:32:08.260 with the false images and tick tock and Snapchat the same.

01:32:11.320 And we don't care.

01:32:12.360 We see whistleblowers.

01:32:13.680 We see study after study.

01:32:15.260 We don't give a shit as a society.

01:32:17.480 We don't value those girls or they're upset.

01:32:20.340 We see the girl suicidality rate go through the roof after the pandemic and the lockdowns and so on.

01:32:25.860 Do we care?

01:32:26.460 No, we do stories about it.

01:32:28.540 Nothing's nothing changes.

01:32:29.960 Now the girls are becoming school shooters.

01:32:33.040 And guess who they're killing?

01:32:33.920 I guarantee you there are other girls.

01:32:35.660 We see the little girl in the arms of a teacher or a parent there holding on for dear life,

01:32:40.340 scared shitless.

01:32:42.120 She was just trying to get an education.

01:32:44.020 And who shot at her?

01:32:45.120 Who's shooting up her school?

01:32:46.480 A girl.

01:32:47.860 Like, when are we going to pay attention?

01:32:51.000 When are we going to start caring about the constant objectification of women

01:32:54.640 and the constant focus on their bodies and their exposure

01:32:58.260 and the constant celebration of the men coming into their spaces and making them feel less than

01:33:02.560 like I've gone off many times about the Kim Kardashianization of America, right?

01:33:08.080 Like, it's all about your booty, how you look, whether you're thin enough, whether you're sexy enough.

01:33:12.860 It's all related.

01:33:14.420 I just feel like no one gives a shit.

01:33:17.260 I realize we have economic problems.

01:33:19.080 We have a military problem.

01:33:20.140 We've got Ukraine.

01:33:20.880 We've got things that are.

01:33:21.920 But look at this.

01:33:22.700 Why don't we care about this?

01:33:24.020 It's not about tightening gun lies.

01:33:25.840 You're right.

01:33:26.460 You're right, Evita.

01:33:28.060 If she had access to a gun, she was 16 years old.

01:33:32.760 What gun law is going to fix it?

01:33:34.160 It's our society.

01:33:35.740 We don't care.

01:33:36.200 There's one last thing.

01:33:38.780 And then I want you guys to get to weigh in.

01:33:40.540 There's a hold on.

01:33:42.160 There's a story today.

01:33:43.120 It was tops on Drudge.

01:33:44.460 It's a Wall Street Journal poll.

01:33:46.440 It shows the patriotism, religious faith and having children and other priorities that help define

01:33:51.040 America for generations are receding in importance right now to Americans.

01:33:56.560 Some 38 percent of respondents said patriotism is very important to them.

01:33:59.760 In 1998, it was 70.

01:34:01.720 Some 39 percent said religion was very important.

01:34:04.560 In 1998, it was 62.

01:34:07.200 Some 30 percent say having children is important to them.

01:34:10.040 In 1998, it was 59.

01:34:12.300 The importance of community involvement has gone down.

01:34:16.520 You know what's gone up?

01:34:17.680 You know, the only issue that's grown in importance among Americans and their values, money, money.

01:34:25.060 There's something wrong with pushing God out of all the public squares.

01:34:28.820 Here's the video of the children being escorted out, pushing God out of the public square, pushing

01:34:33.340 community out of the public square, losing our tether on what sexuality looks like, what

01:34:38.420 gender looks like, what a woman is, how we treat people with respect, whether we should

01:34:42.740 care about one another and not just Instagram and TikTok versions of ourselves and our stupid

01:34:47.160 filters on Snapchat, whether we should bowl together, we should be together and put an

01:34:53.200 investment into our children and have children and not be guilted out of it by climate activists.

01:34:57.940 I could go on.

01:34:59.420 Evita, I know that you you are a person of faith.

01:35:02.180 I know you both are.

01:35:04.900 I don't know the answer, but I feel like it starts there.

01:35:07.500 It starts there.

01:35:09.320 Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right.

01:35:10.940 We are a nation that is sick.

01:35:13.220 We are culturally in decline.

01:35:15.780 So there's so many parallels to ancient Rome.

01:35:17.800 I'm a history major in school.

01:35:19.880 And just to look at even the the weird gender ideology that we're seeing now, similar things

01:35:24.840 were happening in ancient Rome.

01:35:26.020 It's a totally civilizational decline, a devaluing of the family unit.

01:35:32.180 We're not we don't we don't we don't have the same values, like you said, about about

01:35:35.800 women.

01:35:36.240 Right.

01:35:36.500 We we we try to, you know, commodify them and we we don't value the unique the uniqueness

01:35:44.100 that they have of bringing life into the world.

01:35:46.120 There's something so beautiful and unique about that.

01:35:48.040 And I think the cultural stuff that we've been talking about today is is so important to

01:35:53.340 the bigger things.

01:35:54.260 Right.

01:35:54.440 The national security risk that we have with with with tick tock and with China and and

01:35:58.960 our currency.

01:35:59.820 We can't we can't be a nation and defend ourselves properly and be ready when when when shit really

01:36:05.760 hits the fan if we are not mentally OK.

01:36:08.260 And I think that's exactly what we're talking about today.

01:36:10.580 It's just we are we are not culturally, spiritually sound.

01:36:14.440 And yeah, that's so well said.

01:36:16.480 We are not mentally OK.

01:36:18.980 And it's manifesting a lot.

01:36:20.920 You can see it.

01:36:21.860 You can see it.

01:36:22.680 We should not be seeing any more scenes like this.

01:36:25.460 And it's not just about guns.

01:36:27.260 And frankly, it's not just about, you know, identifying the potential shooters.

01:36:31.040 It's about us.

01:36:33.460 Yeah, we certainly have a societal decay that is just taking root all over our country.

01:36:39.040 There's a direct rejection of tradition.

01:36:41.620 There's a direct rejection of biology, of having strong values of our country's history.

01:36:47.880 And what people don't recognize is that these build a strong foundation for how we are meant

01:36:52.380 to coexist as humans, how we come together as a community, our strong family units that

01:36:57.140 we all should be striving to build a love for country that we should have.

01:37:00.360 And as soon as long as we abandon that and continue to abandon it and have this sort

01:37:04.360 of rhetoric towards tradition and values and a moral compass, this is what is going to

01:37:09.160 continue to happen and kids are going to be the ones who are hurt the most by our most

01:37:13.340 vulnerable in society are the ones who bear the brunt of this.

01:37:17.420 There is something to the fact that this shooter was a woman.

01:37:21.260 It's not and it's not good.

01:37:24.100 And we're going to have to take an honest look about how she got there.

01:37:27.960 We got there.

01:37:28.860 And separate and apart from her, her gender.

01:37:32.960 How many preschools need to be shot up?

01:37:35.000 How many elementary schools need to be shot up?

01:37:37.200 You know, I've got some real ideas on this.

01:37:38.800 I actually do.

01:37:39.480 I almost volunteered to work for the Trump administration.

01:37:41.520 Maybe I'll volunteer to help Biden, but I got some real ideas on this and I'll get into

01:37:46.480 them tomorrow.

01:37:47.200 Amala Evita, so good to have you here today.

01:37:49.580 Thank you so much for all you do.

01:37:51.640 We'll be back tomorrow.

01:37:52.260 We'll be back tomorrow.

The Megyn Kelly Show - March 27, 2023

Trans Activists Honored on Women's History Month, and Trump's Potential Arrest, with Amala Ekpunobi and Evita Duffy-Alfonso ｜ Ep. 516

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