Trump as ＂Pop Culture President,＂ and Female ＂Rage Ritual Retreats,＂ with Alex Clark and Mary Morgan ｜ Ep. 811
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Join hosts Alex Clark and Mary Morgan as they discuss the verdict in the Joe Biden trial and the implications for the upcoming mid-term elections. Plus, a look at the latest in the scandal surrounding Joe Biden and his possible impeachment.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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As you probably know by now, it's Pride Month, and the mayor of West Hollywood,
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who attended one of the largest pride parades in L.A. last weekend,
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says his favorite part of the event was seeing the children.
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Anne, have you ever heard of a rage ritual for women?
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Well, our next guests have, and you're in for a treat.
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All that and more with Alex Clark, host of The Spillover Podcast,
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Thank you so much. It's like I got attacked by a shark.
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Um, Kamala Harris goes on with Jimmy Kimmel and has the nerve, the nerve to say this.
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When the verdict was announced, how do you get that information?
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Are you watching TV, or are you, uh, are you somebody, somebody relaying this to you?
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Well, that kind of news, usually it's a combination of, you know,
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there are TVs everywhere I am if I'm in the office, and, um, and then folks come in, so.
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And are the people in the room pretending to not be happy, or how does that go?
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I mean, in all seriousness, a jury of 12 people, peers, over the course of six weeks,
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deliberated on the evidence and facts, and unanimously determined guilt for 34 felony counts.
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The reality is, cheaters don't like getting caught.
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And, you know, the reality is, let's just fast forward to, again, November.
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I think the American people want to know that there is a president who believes they are accountable to the people.
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That's the reality. Got it? Cheaters don't like getting caught. Alex, your thoughts on it?
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Well, we'll see what happens. I love how she said, you know, we'll see what happens in November.
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We will see what happens in November. Um, I, I, at this point, I don't think there are many people
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outside of New York City who really believe that that was a fair trial. I mean, wouldn't you agree?
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I just think that the, uh, the irony here, Mary, of the Democrats claiming the Republicans are upset
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because they cheated to win a presidential election is just too thick for me to actually get through
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without throwing up a little in my mouth. I like look back at Hillary Clinton, what she did with
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Fusion GPS, not to mention ruining Trump's first term with all of the nonsense. And then secondly,
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with Joe Biden and the Hunter Biden laptop and the denial of it all. I mean, the nerve to turn
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around and say, oh, cheaters don't like it. And I got caught. Well, I mean, I, I'm not a political
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analyst, you know, that I'm just like trying to keep my head down. Uh, and I also don't want to get you
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banned off of YouTube. There are limitations on what you can say about cheating and 2024 elections and
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all of that. So I'm just going to zip my lips shut and I'm going to throw away the key.
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Well, I'll say it. It's absolutely galling because if anybody cheated, it was the Democrats. It wasn't
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Trump. I mean, that's, that's just a lie. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump. He's
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controversial. He can be offensive. He doesn't always have an adult relationship with the truth.
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That's true of most politicians, but he's in a special class in some ways. However,
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he did not cheat to win the 2016 election. That was a lie that Hillary Clinton came up with to
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justify her pathetic loss. No one told you not to go to Wisconsin, madam. He won fair and square.
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You're the one who did your level best to cast him as a Russian spy, to, to get the feds onto him,
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to speak with Obama about spying on his campaign. Shame on you and shame on Joe Biden because he was
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part of it too. Um, okay. So speaking of Donald Trump, he has done something that has surprised
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a lot of people and that is he joined Tik TOK. This is the same president who tried to ban Tik TOK,
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tried to force, uh, the, the ownership to sell. And Trump, I guess has concluded, like,
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if you can't beat him, join him. And he's joined Tik TOK. Here's a bit of the first one he posted in
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SOC 20. The president is now on Tik TOK. It's my honor. So he joined Saturday night as of Tuesday
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afternoon, he had 5 million followers. And the video he posted that I just showed there already
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has 77 million views just as a basis for comparison, the Biden Harris HQ. They're on Tik TOK too. They
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have 354,000 followers, something, a number Trump passed in just a few hours. Pretty extraordinary
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to have 5 million followers, but what does it tell us anything, Alex? Oh my gosh. It tells us
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everything. First of all, you have to understand that Donald Trump is, and always has been the pop
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culture president. So, uh, the first time that I met him, I actually told him that. And he, I mean,
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he is the president and he's busy and he's meeting a lot of people and you know, he's perfectly polite,
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but he's not really paying attention. I mean, you get it. Like when you're going through a lot of
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people in your meeting. And when I told him, I said, it's such an honor to meet you. You are the
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pop culture president. He paused. And then he looked directly at me and he was like, you're right.
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I am the pop culture president. Um, and that is why he terrifies the left, right? It's that he has
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his finger on the pulse of pop culture. He is authentically cool in a way that the Democrats
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couldn't manufacture in their wildest dreams for someone like Biden. And all he has to do is have
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some Gen Z-er on his campaign, help him create different videos that have to do with different
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TikTok trends. He will become the biggest account on that platform. That will be huge
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for his election, uh, or for his campaign gearing up towards the election in November. So I saw Mike
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Cernovich, who I really love on Twitter. He said, Trump needs to do that trend when, when he's like,
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um, I'm a, I'm a political prisoner. So I blah, blah, blah. I'm a political prisoner. So I blah,
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blah, blah. He should be doing these types of trends, which would completely take
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over the news in a great way for him. What do you think, Alex? Cause I mean, Mary,
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cause it's one of those things where, you know, I'm not a huge supporter of TikTok,
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but I also am on TikTok because I want my message to be heard by these young people who are being,
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being indoctrinated with only left wing thought, you know, maybe we'll get a few of them to see
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things in a different way. Definitely. I mean, the only thing I was wondering about is why didn't
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Trump make this decision sooner? It seems like he was taking notes off of Vivek's decision to get on
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TikTok and appeal to Gen Z. And he was doing these collabs with like Jake Paul and stuff.
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And soon enough, like Trump is already popular with Gen Z males at the very least. He's going to get
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like the broccoli haircut. He's going to start like zinning. He's going to wear the white.
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I don't know what any of those things are. Help us old ladies. What are those things?
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And I, I believe he will be the, the president that captures the zoomer heart through this medium,
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but I can't enjoy it because I've already been banned on TikTok twice. So I'm going to have to
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watch from the sidelines. What'd you do? Why? What did you say? I don't even know what happened the
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first time. It's just, if you make pro choicers mad and they dogpile your account and mass report
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you, you're going to get deleted. And then the pop culture crisis, TikTok account also got banned
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because I think I was trashing the mean girls reboot. They got mad at that. Really? Were the
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Chinese behind it? That's the other problem. If you're the Chinese are behind it, you can get
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that crack down on you, but whatever. Um, they're almost as bad as the trans activists. Those are the
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they constantly pile up on me online. I don't care. I don't care that I've upset you. Your mean
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insults are meaningless to me. If anything, I take them as a compliment. I know you're just very angry
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because you're trying to be female and you're not. Um, speaking of TikTok, the Biden here has
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campaign decided to share with their 354,000 followers, a message about a story that's been in
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the news this week. I mean, it's been in the news since 15. I covered the story the first time it came out
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and it's been revived now. And it's about Trump allegedly, while he was hosting the apprentice,
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allegedly using the N word in front of people and it allegedly being caught on camera. Like the,
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I remember people saying this before the 16 election, like, Oh my God, you know, this is it.
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Like, if that's true, he's done. You know, you can't like, he'll definitely lose if that tape gets
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released. And then there was pressure on Mark Burnett. I remember Roseanne's ex-husband,
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Tom Arnold kept saying, let's see the tape. Let's see the tapes. No tapes were ever released.
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And Trump said, Mark Burnett says that no tapes exist. And Trump says this didn't happen more
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importantly. Uh, but now what has happened is a, a producer of the apprentice who says he was under a
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non-disclosure agreement and NDA for the past 20 years has just seen the agreement expire.
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And now he is making the media rounds because he's promoting a book in which he makes clear.
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Donald Trump is terrible. Um, that he was aware of it. He was a witness to it. It did happen.
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And he believes there is tape of it though. Doesn't, doesn't know who has it or it doesn't
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believe it'll actually ever come out. So let me just first show you what the Biden Harris campaign
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posted on, um, on Tik TOK 21. Guys, you have to see this new report about Donald Trump.
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A producer on the apprentice just came out and said that Donald Trump called a black contestant
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on his show this, and here's Donald Trump's own former assistant confirming that there's a tape of
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him saying it. I had an opportunity to go out in Los Angeles and sit down with the person who
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actually has a copy of the tape. And I heard his voice as clear as you and I are sitting.
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You have heard the tape since publication of this book. Absolutely. So, you know,
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it exists and I know it exists. Anyone notice a pattern here? This is the same man who called
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to execute innocent black men and spread racist lies about the first black president. Donald Trump
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is exactly who we all knew he was a lifelong racist. Black voters kicked Donald Trump out of
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the white house in 2020. And we're going to do it again this November. Okay. Just a couple of words
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on that. He did not call it to execute innocent black men. He made public comments in favor of
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the death penalty for the people who raped a woman in central park years ago and did not specify the
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specific defendants though. There, it was believed that these five black men perpetrated the crime
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after they confessed repeatedly without even having been accused. They volunteered to the cops. Okay.
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I did this to her, but I didn't rape her. And then the one, okay. There's a lot of questions
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still about that case. That's all I'm going to say for now because it's a deeper dive, but he did not
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call for the execution of innocent men. Um, that was Omarosa. They played it. The, the Biden campaign
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did who used to work for Trump. She also was, she came to fame on apprentice and she made those
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comes back in 2018, right? So Omarosa's had a long, difficult relationship with Donald Trump and she
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is a very interesting and smart, but I think she would admit difficult person herself.
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She's had a lot of relationship conflict. Okay. She had, she got fired by John Kelly and some
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explosive thing that happened inside the white house. My point is there's some bad blood there,
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right? So that leads me back to the current guy who's out there making the rounds and we'll play
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a soundbite from him in a minute. What do you make of it? Is this like a real story? Do you think
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this is going to have any traction in particular with young people, Mary? Cause there's a reason they
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put this on Tik TOK. I think it's obvious to everyone that this is an attempt at character
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assassination. I find it hard to believe that that tape exists or that she heard that tape herself.
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Um, but you know, we're in the age of believe all women. I, who am I to say? And also this is just
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a repeat of the grab them by the P word tape. Is it not like, I feel like this is deja vu of 2016.
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And it didn't work then. Why would it work now?
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That's a good question. The P tape, like the infamous tape. There are three tapes
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that, that, that allegedly Trump had prostitutes pee on this bed, uh, in Russia. The one
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that said Trump assaulted Melania in an elevator and that there was tape of it. No. Yeah. And this one,
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the infamous alleged Trump using the N word. There's a movie coming out of a biopic is coming
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out from Hollywood about Trump soon called the apprentice. And it's interesting, the timing of
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it all, they're going to be depicting a graphic rape scene in that movie of, of Trump raping his
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former wife, uh, who is now past Ivana in that movie. And, and by the way, that is a claim
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that was made in their divorce deposition in 1989, which she rescinded herself not too long after.
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So it's just a straight defamation campaign. And this is another example of it.
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Mm-hmm. Yes. Not, not surprisingly that movie movie quote unquote, you know, documentary was
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written by Gabe Sherman who makes his living trying to take down prominent Republicans. That's his
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thing. Well, first it was Roger Ailes. That was his white whale for years. Now Roger Ailes is gone. So
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it's Trump. Here is the producer, Alex, who's been making the rounds. Uh, he went on CNN to tell us
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how terrible Trump is. And at one point, Carolyn Kepcher, who was the head of his hospitality unit
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and ran one of his golf clubs sort of came outside herself and said, Kwame Jackson oversaw Omarosa,
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who was brought back onto the task and created all kinds of problems for herself and other people all
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along the season, but was great TV and was kept around for whatever reason. And for that,
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Carolyn Kepcher thought, well, Kwame deserves to be considered for how graceful he was in handling
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this. And, and Trump seemed to have an issue with this idea all along. You could see him
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reacting and shaking his head, wobbling his head, grimacing, wincing before he said, yeah,
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but would America buy an, then he said the N word winning. And then I looked at Trump to see the
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reaction that he was giving, like it was some sort of joke and he was still wincing and
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bobbing his head. And he was serious. What do you make of it, Alex? Okay. If Donald Trump called
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someone the N word ever in his life, Megan, you and I know they would not have been saving that
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information for eight freaking years. It would have been everywhere. It would have been painted on
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every building billboard broadcast and baby. If that was a real thing that happened and there was
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a recording or any sort of proof, they wouldn't need to be doing this charade through the court
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system that they're doing now, because that would have been the number one thing. This, that is the
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proof and the evidence that they have been wanting so badly for all this time. They wouldn't just be
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like, Oh yeah, it exists. You know, I've heard it, but it's not being broadcasted every, you know,
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in every single outlet 24 seven. Um, no, it's completely, completely fake. And I also want to
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point out how obviously scripted that Tik TOK was, um, that person was sent a literal script clearly from
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the Biden administration to read and was paid to make a Tik TOK. One of the black Panthers founding members,
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David Hilliard this week said that he is backing Donald Trump for president. I have seen no one
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covering that. He called him an ally of the black population, but what is happening instead is that
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we're running with this fake fabricated N word story for the umpteenth time. And I also want to
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bring attention to the fact that right now there is a reason why they are running with this fake
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apprentice N word story. And that is because what is really happening is president Joe Biden just gave
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permission to Ukraine to use U S weapons to bomb Russia, which is instigating world war three. So
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all of this happening simultaneously. Um, also while he's draining our strategic oil reserves to
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temporarily lower gas prices, just so he can try to win the 2024 election. The Democrats do not want
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that to be the news. So they are talking about an N word hoax with Donald Trump for the 150th time.
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Give me a break. Hmm. You know, later today we have an interview with, um, the editor in chief of
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variety, Ramin Satuta, who's spent tons of time with Trump. This is Trump cooperated with him and
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has got a new book out about Trump, including these years. And we're going to get into all of it. It's
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going to be fascinating. I've known this guy for a while, so I can't wait to talk to him about it and see,
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you know, what, what he learned, but yeah, I mean, this is like, okay. Is if there's a tape show to
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me because you're right, this would be the silver bullet. You, you want to bring down Trump's approval
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ratings. I know I sound like one of those people, this look, this, if there's a tape of Donald Trump
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using the N word, okay, let's see it because this is the silver bullet that the Democrats have been
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dreaming about and it's never been produced. I think the goal is to have us talking about it.
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Like you and I are talking about it though. They'd prefer we not talk about it in quite this
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way. Uh, so, okay, that's that we'll move on. But you mentioned pro-life and pro-choice a minute
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ago. So this story hasn't gotten anywhere near enough attention. Something extraordinary is
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happening here. And speaking of the, in our first hour, we discussed how there's, you know, the,
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the feds, the, the, those who prosecute crime get to choose what they're outraged about,
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right? Like they're really outraged about falsification of business records. Um, but not
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so much when a Democrat commits a crime or, you know, when Hillary Clinton violates the law. Um,
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and that brings me to the latest, this is from the Washington examiner. Okay. Activists participated
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in a blockade at an abortion clinic, um, in DC. They described it as a rescue. They used chains,
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bike locks, and ropes to block the clinic entrance for more than two hours. And we've now seen tape
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and it does appear that they did that. It was not like one of those things where they were on the
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outside of the building, silently praying. They were inside the clinic and they were playing,
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they're the praying out loud. So this is definitely against the law, but the question is what, what
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should be done about it? What is the penalty? And we're showing the video now. One of the activists,
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uh, Paulette Harlow was sentenced to two years in prison on Friday, which brought the combined
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sentences of the 10 defendants involved in this incident to 23 years. Paulette Harlow, 59 years old,
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nine were found guilty in jury or bench trials of violating the freedom of access to clinic
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entrances act and conspiracy to violate civil rights. A 10th defendant entered a guilty plea
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for one charge. So my question to you is whether the punishment fits the crime here, Mary, because
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they definitely violated the law. I don't think there's much question about that,
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but two years in prison for, uh, this woman who is 59 years old. Does that, does the punishment fit
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the crime? Yeah. I saw another report that was suggesting she's in her seventies and her husband
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is worried about her dying during her prison sentence. Well, here's what I'm convinced. Here's
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what, you know, I might, I think this is an old article, but in any event, you're right. Cause what I saw
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was she was 75 years old that she is 75 years old. Her name is Paulette Harlow. So regardless my old
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article is wrong. Yeah. And they say she's in poor health too, by the way. It's just obviously
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completely gravely unjust. I don't think that even needs to be stated right now, but I, I just got
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reminded of this case in the UK where a woman was praying silently outside of an abortion clinic
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and it, she wasn't even close by. It was on a nearby sidewalk. She was arrested for that. Yeah. She was
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arrested for that. She had now ultimately she found out that she wasn't going to be prosecuted and she
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got an apology, which like, thanks for that. Thanks for the apology. Like it matters. But obviously that's
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not completely analogous to what happened here, but we should be expecting that for what's to come
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because this is extremely punitive for no reason other than their political beliefs and our right
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to political expression is vanishing. It is vaporizing in front of us. You can go outside of Supreme
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court justice's houses and terrorize them. You can terrorize them, which is unlawful. It's
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unquestionably a violation of the law. And that's fine. That will not be prosecuted, Alex. But if you
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go because of your sincerely held belief, and by the way, this clinic is the most controversial for
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those of you out there who are pro-choice are like, well, this is the most, in my opinion,
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disgusting kind of clinic there is doing these procedures. Um, this guy, Dr. Cesar Santangelo
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ran the clinic at the time live action once recorded him during an undercover operation
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saying he would not help a baby in the rare event. The baby was born alive during a late
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term abortion procedure, which, uh, happened there. And there's more about him. So, I mean,
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I understand she was violating the law, but there was a reason that this older woman went in there
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and did what she did. And now at 75 years old, she's going into jail and poor health.
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And the husband cried to the judge saying, please, please, she's going to die in there.
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And the judge said, oh, well, maybe, maybe she'll just hope her way through it. Maybe she'll just be
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so hopeful about what happens on the back end that she'll live and come out and be free after two years.
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Yeah. The judge actually laughed. The judge laughed when the husband was pleading, uh, for a lesser
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sentence due to age and health of his wife. Anyone who is center right is under political
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persecution in this country right now. I mean, that is the main, the moral of this story.
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One of these elderly women, um, who who's also involved in this story is now going to jail for
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several years. So she is who found what you're talking about with this abortion clinic. This is
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where the five late term babies were found dead in buckets in DC. One of these women found them.
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She is the reason that the public even knows about them. So everyone is upset. And the reason that
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these women are being treated the way that they were or the way that they are is because we were
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never supposed to know the public was never supposed to know what was really going on in
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this clinic. And by the way, this isn't the only clinic in the United States where they're
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performing late term abortions like this, although this is the type of stuff they don't want us to
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know. Basically, we are told that late term abortion is a pro-life hoax, that we've made that up,
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that, you know, that's insane. Nobody is aborting, you know, babies born at nine months or letting
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them die after they're born full term. Um, and then you have the 75 year old woman sentenced to
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two years in prison. Uh, her husband begging the judge to reduce the sentence because like we said,
00:24:36.240
she's probably going to die alone in there. The judge is laughing in response. They want to make
00:24:40.420
an example out of all of these activists, uh, the January sixers, uh, president Trump himself.
00:24:47.460
And I also want to bring it. Meanwhile, where's, where's, where are the people who are bombing the,
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00:24:57.180
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Okay, ladies. So, um, have you heard it's pride month? I don't know if you're,
00:26:06.300
if anybody's told you that's, are you? Really? I didn't know.
00:26:09.740
Yeah. Yeah. Shocking, right? It's a, it's everywhere. Well, actually, Megan,
00:26:17.380
Strudwick, who is pulled into these culture wars against his will. It's rough. If you know what
00:26:22.240
I'm saying? Very rough. Um, so you, it's one thing, like, honestly, this started years ago.
00:26:28.960
Like I, I remember when it was like, be kind, be respectful of gay people. Like they have rights.
00:26:36.860
So, okay. That's one thing. Um, but here's another question. Now it's morphed into something totally
00:26:41.940
different. As you know, it's completely vile and disgusting and in your face and, and raunchy,
00:26:45.500
but why, why do the gays and the LGBTQ crowd, why do they get a month? Like we just celebrated or
00:26:52.080
marked, I guess that is a better word Memorial day where we honor our dead soldiers. What they get
00:26:57.980
one day veterans who served their country honorably. They get one day. Why did the tea crowd get an
00:27:04.820
entire month of me having to look at their tucket bathing suits and their debauchery on the streets
00:27:11.080
of America and insist that my children participate in it too. What kind of upside down priorities
00:27:17.640
are these Mary thoughts? Well, you mentioned that pride used to be about, you know, just being kind
00:27:25.820
and respectful regardless of everyone's sexual proclivities, you know, don't throw them off
00:27:31.340
buildings. Don't hate crime them and stuff like that. It's obviously changed and it's, it's been
00:27:36.940
different for quite a while now, but it was never just about kindness. It was never just about love is
00:27:43.500
love. Uh, it was always hiding something sinister and truly vile under the surface. And this is trite.
00:27:52.520
Like I wouldn't be the first person to say it. Plenty of people have said it. Uh, this is an
00:27:57.120
inherently sterile movement. They are sexually sterile people whose only way of reproducing is to
00:28:05.160
indoctrinate. And when you do that, you have to start as early as possible. And, you know, if you think
00:28:11.840
about pride, uh, underneath all of that fluffy flowery language, uh, and just really think about
00:28:19.220
the acts, which they are celebrating, and I'm not going to get into graphic detail, it's disgusting.
00:28:27.000
And everything about this movement is, uh, you know, pressuring people socially to suppress their
00:28:35.200
feelings of disgust and discomfort about these lifestyles as they're called.
00:28:41.840
Mm-hmm. The, um, we've got examples up and down, but the mayor of West Hollywood, this guy,
00:28:49.680
John Erickson, he had some thoughts, and this is one of the raunchiest, most disgusting
00:28:53.540
pride parades that exist. Uh, here he is talking about his favorite part of it in SOT 27.
00:29:00.000
What has been your favorite part of this event so far?
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I loved going out there and seeing all the kids, um, just living and being there with their parents
00:29:09.520
of all shapes and sizes and just seeing them having so much fun and giving them fans and
00:29:14.560
throwing candy and everything like that. And then truly just in a world like today to have this right
00:29:20.040
now, fun and center, we need it now more than ever. Wow. That's what they want, Alex. They want our
00:29:26.020
children and they want every eyeball under 18 they can get. Why does it always start with the kids,
00:29:33.100
the kids, family friendly drag shows? I just, I never thought, I thought obviously there's
00:29:38.120
something perverse about it. It never occurred to me until Mary just said that, that they are,
00:29:42.760
they are sterile. They're not going to be able to reproduce the next generation of activists. So
00:29:47.280
they have to corrupt the ones that you and I bring into the world. My mind is blown by that.
00:29:52.160
That is just one of the most well-said, well-put, you know, descriptions of what's going on.
00:29:57.360
Mary saying that I can't even believe it. I mean, I can, but I can't, but it is so disturbing. If you
00:30:04.220
start paying attention and you just like mark down, you just start tallying how many times do they
00:30:08.220
bring up children? It is shocking. Yeah. Oh, here's another one. Here's a drag queen in Ohio,
00:30:15.300
not leaving much to the imagination on the plan. This is courtesy of, um, gays against groomers that
00:30:21.320
posted on X. Watch this. It's 31. It won't, I won't change your little town. Your own children
00:30:28.080
will. Your children will see us. Your children will love us. And your children will join us.
00:30:43.100
I don't think so, but they don't leave much to the imagination, Mary, right? It's like,
00:30:47.300
this is our plan. We're coming for your kids. No, they, they really don't leave it to the
00:30:52.000
imagination anymore. They're confirming every day that the slippery slope was never a fallacy.
00:30:57.920
Um, I, I just, I think about the innocence of children as something that was, you know,
00:31:05.920
supposed to be protected at all costs in any, any healthy society. And you asked earlier,
00:31:13.340
why do they need a month? Like, why do these people need that much validation and that much
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public celebration? And why do they need to be worshiped like this? And the answer I think comes
00:31:25.920
down to the fact that these are deeply dysfunctional people. The list of comorbidities with identifying as
00:31:34.120
gay or trans is never ending. They're more likely to abuse drugs. They're more likely to have suicidal
00:31:41.240
ideation. They are more likely to have been offended against, uh, sexually as children as well. Uh,
00:31:49.820
you know, they're more likely to be extremely promiscuous, to carry STDs, to also have domestic
00:31:58.160
violence disputes when they are married. The list goes on and on and on. These are deeply dysfunctional
00:32:04.660
people. Uh, and also they need narcissistic feedback from everyone else that the whole point
00:32:12.040
of all of this is exhibition. And, you know, people say it's fine. It's fine. If you just do
00:32:18.280
whatever you want in your own homes, in your own bedrooms, it's fine. Whatever, who cares? You're not
00:32:24.260
hurting me. You're not hurting my family, but that was never the point. The point was always to go out
00:32:30.780
on the street in your bondage gear and show everyone your micro penis. That was always the
00:32:36.400
point. I also want to say, I see a distinction between gays and teas big time. I don't think
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I know tons of gays. I'm from, I'm from the Northeast. I'm from New York. They're, they're
00:32:46.980
all normal, upstanding, lovely people. Some married, some not. It's the tea crowd where things start to go
00:32:54.480
south. Not all of them, but way too many to want them parading down your neighborhood. And there,
00:33:01.880
there are real problems with mental health in that community. I see it as completely distinct from gays
00:33:07.680
and lesbians, especially in that way, but it's in our face. And the problem is all these gay
00:33:13.400
organizations, like gay rights organizations, which one, which, you know, succeeded in all of their
00:33:19.660
missions have run out of things to do. And so now they're propping up this other group, which is
00:33:25.100
other in, in profound and important ways. That's not to say, by the way, that the pride parades,
00:33:31.200
even when it was just about gays were great things because they were very raunchy and in your face,
00:33:35.960
even when, before we got our trans insanity on like now, anyway, you were going to say something.
00:33:41.540
Go ahead, Alex. Well, I was just going to say, um, I think it's probably also deliberate that
00:33:47.660
it's a month long celebration, not just one day, because we need the time to expose children and
00:33:54.940
people to this lifestyle, because the more you're exposed to it, the more you just live with it,
00:33:58.400
then your guard goes down. You're less repulsed, be your less shock because you see it and are exposed
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to it so constantly. Um, and so I think that's interesting. And I also think your point of, of
00:34:09.080
there, you have seen historically such a distinct difference between what is now the trans lobby and
00:34:14.720
then, you know, lesbian and gays, the loudest voice against the trans nonsense should, should be the
00:34:22.680
lesbian and gays because lesbian. Well, look at that clip, that clip we just showed us from gays
00:34:26.380
against groomers. Like that's a great X account. Those are, um, you know, I think there aren't they
00:34:31.680
two lesbian women. I'm trying to, I'm getting my accounts confused. Uh, but in any event, it's gays
00:34:35.640
against groomers for a reason. Sorry, keep going. Well, yeah, because they understand that if we
00:34:40.620
allow the trans people to keep running with this stuff, I mean, there will be no such thing as
00:34:46.120
gays and lesbians because every single kid who identifies as, as gay or lesbian is going to be
00:34:51.380
transed. They're going to be castrated. That just isn't going to exist anymore. So if anyone should
00:34:56.360
be outspoken against what that group is trying to do, it should be gays and lesbians, honestly.
00:35:02.540
It's so true. God. And you say, use that word castrated. That's it. Yes. That's what's happening.
00:35:06.840
I mean, I don't know why we don't normally use that word to describe what these guys are doing
00:35:11.460
to themselves, but that's it. Exactly. They're castrating themselves with abandon, like, and
00:35:15.720
then the celebrating it and like posting about it in Tik TOK. Like it's something great. We talked
00:35:19.760
about the RuPaul drag queen show the other day where they had this woman who had chopped off her
00:35:24.280
perfect, perfectly healthy breasts and then had like, um, like fake razors chopping off breasts with
00:35:30.960
blood coming off of her nipples and holding a bag of bloody breasts. Like this is like, this is
00:35:36.220
serial killer stuff. That's beyond dark. Um, here is just a bit. You can see the pictures here of
00:35:43.360
what happened at the West Hollywood parade in our second video, um, where they have no clothes on.
00:35:49.200
Look at these men, look at them. I mean, I see penises everywhere. Um, this I will say is not
00:35:57.720
unfamiliar to me. I saw this at the New York city pride parade for years. I don't understand. And I know
00:36:03.840
there are a lot of gay men who also object, but like, how is it that this is representative of
00:36:09.780
pride, right? Like what piece of this? It's like, if you want gay rights, if you want equal rights for
00:36:16.780
trans people, okay, why do you have to get naked and show me your penis? Like I, how does that factor
00:36:22.960
in to the cause? Mary I'm struggling. I think that if I had to sit in the, the armchair and psychoanalyze
00:36:33.540
these people, the reason why they have to broadcast all of this and they have to strip down naked or
00:36:40.980
nearly naked in the streets and show everyone how wild and raunchy they are. I think it's because
00:36:48.180
really underneath it all, they are ashamed of what they're doing. And we've all known people in
00:36:55.580
situations where they're doing something they know is wrong and they double down on it. And they insist
00:37:00.980
to everyone around them that they're adults and they know what they're doing and they're making
00:37:05.660
themselves happy and they know what's best for them. And how dare you say otherwise? And it goes for
00:37:11.980
issues of sexuality as well. I mean, most of all, because it's so, it's such a visceral part of our,
00:37:19.320
our identity as well. It makes sense to me that they're doing this because it's like a dare. It's
00:37:25.760
like, go ahead, tell me what I'm doing is wrong because they know it's wrong. Well, that leads me to
00:37:33.640
something interesting that you wrote about female rage and it dovetails perfectly in with these like,
00:37:40.440
there's like rage retreats that women are going on. And these tend to be the most privileged,
00:37:46.980
advantaged women in America. And what are they exactly so rageful about? Something you recently
00:37:54.420
wrote about and have pondered. So walk us through it. What's happening with the female rage movement?
00:37:59.580
Yeah, there, there were a lot of points that were converging when I decided to write this piece
00:38:04.920
about female rage. One of them was this wellness trend, which really I think is just kind of a
00:38:12.000
version of witchcraft, uh, called a rage ritual. And it's led by a self-proclaimed witch. So I'm not
00:38:18.640
just making that up. And all of these women pay thousands of dollars to go out into the woods together
00:38:25.380
and scream their head off and bang sticks on the ground and think about all of the people who have
00:38:34.580
wronged them and all of the injustices in their own lives and in the world. And somehow this is
00:38:41.900
supposed to be cathartic because you are like composting, uh, your, your trauma. I think that
00:38:49.040
was the wording that she used. It's like kind of a form of recycling. You can do this for free.
00:38:54.000
You, we, yeah, you was today and screaming, yelling with pots and pans. Yes. Yes. You can do
00:38:58.540
that whenever you want. And I just had to think about why these women are, are so unhinged. And I
00:39:05.340
had to admit to myself, like, I kind of feel like that sometimes I don't express it because, you know,
00:39:11.900
you, you shouldn't be a menace to society, but there is this like rage bubbling up in me. Can you
00:39:17.180
relate? Like, am I crazy? I feel rageful when I see these jerks talking about trying to indoctrinate
00:39:22.340
my children with their weird perversions. Yes, I do. But, uh, here's a little bit. So here's some
00:39:26.920
footage from women of women at the rage ritual retreat. This was posted in May. Uh, and the,
00:39:35.340
but the original source is Mia magic magic on YouTube. She's the woman behind the ritual. Watch.
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I feel, what do you feel? I feel sad. I feel sad. I feel sad.
00:39:56.740
This is like our schools in New York after Trump won a spitting image.
00:40:20.520
that so wait let me stick with you on this mary what what are they what are they so angry about
00:40:28.980
like truly you can see them dressed in their lulu lemons like these are obviously not they paid
00:40:34.180
thousands of dollars so they they have some money they have some spare time because you know most
00:40:42.160
people don't can't take a few days off to go to a rage retreat um some were mildly attractive so
00:40:48.620
what are they so unhappy about i love mildly attractive so i mean obviously we're living in
00:40:55.940
a time of material excess and we have an excess of everything that we might want and all of the
00:41:02.620
comforts that you could possibly dream of and the clothing and the makeup and you can live this life
00:41:09.660
where you work a mindless job in hr or middle management something like that and you don't
00:41:16.880
need anybody um but you're living in an extreme quiet poverty of everything that a human being
00:41:23.940
needs to flourish and i think these women they're they're the epitome of the the affluent female
00:41:31.000
white liberals the awfuls like they they would never admit this to anyone else or to themselves
00:41:37.580
but i think they feel a deep discomfort with the direction that society is headed right now
00:41:45.980
where crime is skyrocketing this this society is becoming less and less safe there's less financial
00:41:55.080
security there's less predictability there are you also look around and see no testosterone anywhere
00:42:03.580
to be found like all of the men are just becoming complete wimps and it bears out in the statistics
00:42:09.760
that t levels have never been lower in decades decades and it's not going to get better anytime
00:42:18.460
soon in that regard so you really look around and see all these weak men and i i totally understand
00:42:25.060
having a response that is absolutely hysterical and that used to be a medical diagnosis by the way
00:42:31.700
you could be diagnosed with female hysteria i think we should bring that back so so alex um
00:42:38.760
interestingly the free press also had had a piece about this in may uh by olivia reingold and her the
00:42:45.340
title was i went to karen summer camp karen camp i love that i want to go but no wait when i read more i
00:42:52.640
don't um okay so she writes that there were nearly 50 participants they showed up uh to the same woman's
00:42:59.100
zoom for her first ever live virtual rage ritual that only cost 47 bucks that's not so bad happened
00:43:06.500
at 1 p.m in the afternoon when most employed individuals are still at work olivia points out
00:43:13.420
correct um and here's some of what she says this woman who runs it mia gives us a six minute warning
00:43:20.200
about the the powerful purging we are about to experience which could lead to the re-traumatization
00:43:26.660
of our pasts okay this is already a bad idea stop re-traumatizing yourself if you actually had trauma
00:43:32.940
try to compartmentalize and move on the more time you spend thinking about it the more damaged you will
00:43:38.040
be that's my two cents for what it's worth and i've had a fair amount of trauma so i know um okay
00:43:43.440
who do you need to yell at she runs across her bedroom to bark at us more go the vibe now according
00:43:52.560
to the writer is now soul cycle at hogwarts by 20 minutes in there's a shift with bet banducci that's
00:43:59.220
her last name here now taking a softer tone like she is tucking us into bed we are told this is our
00:44:03.820
last chance for grunts sighs and groans can you imagine
00:44:08.180
ah okay i just got it for free right here on the mk show and we collectively turned to the ceiling
00:44:16.460
to emit one final howl that i refuse to do this is the best part okay ready alex at the end a woman
00:44:25.220
asks a question if you don't have something specific to work with do you feel like just showing up
00:44:33.500
working with the energy of rage is enough they all know what she's asking what do we do if we're not
00:44:42.260
angry at all what if we're a karen without a cause this the answer goes as follows from this woman
00:44:50.540
banducci more often than not what i'm raging about is like injustice in the world you know like what's
00:44:59.980
happening in the middle east plastic in the ocean the enslavement of animals like you know there's a
00:45:08.200
lot to rage about and i have found that when we make ourselves vessels for the rage that is due to
00:45:14.840
greater injustice in the world you're still composting it like you're still alkalizing it you're still
00:45:22.920
being in service to it oh my god this is exclusively an american privilege can i just say that
00:45:33.700
only women to have this woman on would you please come back i'm going to try to book her and i want
00:45:38.960
you to to i need you to live rage ritual we're gonna howl together i we well we need to just cross
00:45:46.800
examine her on her methods and her her borrowed rage keep going alex i mean here okay my unique
00:45:55.340
take on this is women are unbelievably idle in modern america and this causes problems so these
00:46:04.100
women you know they claim that we don't have enough in this country we don't have rights um and then
00:46:10.440
when they obviously that's not true so then they run out of things to be angry about no one else we
00:46:17.180
in no other part of the world would they have that privilege i think that we have everything in this
00:46:22.200
country as women so we're bored to death we're making modern women are making a large disposable
00:46:27.920
income we have no family and therefore we're spending this disposable income on stupid crap like
00:46:34.700
screaming in the woods for thousands of dollars and i just want to remind you this same thing
00:46:41.380
happened in the 50s so so let let me just remind you of this okay so in the 50s what happened you had
00:46:47.400
a whole bunch of really really bored women um and and the feminists said well it was because the 50s
00:46:53.160
were so terrible women were were unpersoned we didn't have rights it was a terrible decade for us
00:46:58.720
um and they hate it but and i also hate the 50s but not for the same reasons that the modern feminists
00:47:04.820
do so all um all of the modern conveniences and inventions that made homemaking easier like tv
00:47:13.380
dinners in the 50s laundry machines frozen chicken not saying all those are bad but they all came so
00:47:18.460
quickly that women basically had no idea what to do with their time so they got super bored fast and then
00:47:24.780
what ended up happening is they revolted into what became the sexual revolution right because women
00:47:29.720
need to feel like they are contributing members of society marriage is good kids are good having
00:47:36.000
someone to look after and pour into other than yourself is good and it curbs becoming self-centered
00:47:42.260
these liberal women have everything in modern america so they have to come up with ways to feel
00:47:48.480
marginalized and have something to do with all of their excess time and money hence
00:47:54.160
what we're seeing here i'm glad you brought up the 1950s too because i'm thinking about the
00:48:00.660
stereotype of that housewife who she she gets beaten up by her husband every night for burning the dinner
00:48:06.960
and she's also taking pills all the time to try to forget the pain and i'm glad you mentioned that
00:48:14.640
because we should we should take notice of the fact that women these days are on these insane
00:48:22.600
pharmaceutical cocktails of antidepressants anti-anxiety medication on birth control uh even adderall and and
00:48:33.720
things that are stimulants like that and they're drinking and all of that mixed together with just the
00:48:41.300
neuroticism they were gifted with is a recipe for social upheaval yeah so there could be a chemical cocktail
00:48:50.940
if the more you ingest that is not natural to your body and the more troubles you imagine for yourself right i mean whether it's the
00:48:58.920
women at karen camp or elsewhere it is a toxic combo go ahead alex so that is absolutely true what mary's saying
00:49:07.880
women right now we are a sedated generation every most of the decisions that we're making on a day-to-day basis are done
00:49:14.640
under the fog of ssris or hormonal birth control which completely affects your personality your interests
00:49:22.600
who you are attracted to i'm going to be talking about this in my speech at turning point usa's young
00:49:28.460
women's leadership summit which you're speaking at this weekend in san antonio um and if and one of the
00:49:34.200
big side effects of these drugs of something like an antidepressant or anti-anxiety medication which
00:49:39.460
i would be willing to bet most of those women if not all are on the one of the main side effects is
00:49:45.880
severe depression suicidal ideation anxiety so it's actually making everything worse and nobody is
00:49:53.460
talking about that i think it's so problematic because look i know that those drugs can help people
00:50:01.680
especially short term if they're going through something really really terrible but we're just
00:50:06.060
handing them out like pez and people get hooked on them and then they get like used to them and then
00:50:11.880
the only solution is like a bigger dose or a different kind of them and the people meantime many of them
00:50:18.020
aren't doing anything to solve their actual problems i will say as somebody who's now in her 50s who had
00:50:23.420
many many years with birth control i'm a big fan of it i love birth control i don't i know there's a
00:50:27.720
backlash now amongst younger women but it did nothing but good things for me it cleared up my skin
00:50:32.800
gave me a regular cycle let me be able to have action without having to worry about an unwanted
00:50:37.320
pregnancy i'm a fan but i realized next time you make next time you have mary and i on we'll debate
00:50:44.400
you on that okay well you can't debate my actual experience it was awesome no no i know your actual
00:50:51.260
experience but but we'll convince you why why you should be um maybe joining us critical out against
00:50:58.800
it yeah critical of it okay all right well i will say it does have very nice benefits for your skin
00:51:03.480
depending on which kind you use and i loved that okay ladies thank you so much great debate goodbye my
00:51:09.580
my fellow karen campers is fascinating talking to you thank you thanks to you both later today we're
00:51:17.100
going to dive into the biggest political stories of the day with guests from the left and the right
00:51:20.360
plus an exclusive interview with variety editor ramin satuda on his new book about donald trump
00:51:25.980
and the apprentice we'll see you then thanks for listening to the megan kelly show no bs no agenda