The Megyn Kelly Show - Trump as ＂Pop Culture President,＂ and Female ＂Rage Ritual Retreats,＂ with Alex Clark and Mary Morgan ｜ Ep. 811

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00:00:12.160 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.200 As you probably know by now, it's Pride Month, and the mayor of West Hollywood,

00:00:19.760 who attended one of the largest pride parades in L.A. last weekend,

00:00:23.060 says his favorite part of the event was seeing the children.

00:00:26.400 Anne, have you ever heard of a rage ritual for women?

00:00:30.780 Well, our next guests have, and you're in for a treat.

00:00:33.640 All that and more with Alex Clark, host of The Spillover Podcast,

00:00:36.940 and Mary Morgan, host of Pop Culture Crisis.

00:00:42.040 Ladies, welcome back to the show. 1.00

00:00:43.620 Thank you.

00:00:44.380 Thank you.

00:00:45.220 Love your talk, by the way.

00:00:46.600 Thank you so much. It's like I got attacked by a shark.

00:00:49.940 Took out part of my shoulder.

00:00:51.160 Um, Kamala Harris goes on with Jimmy Kimmel and has the nerve, the nerve to say this.

00:00:58.520 When the verdict was announced, how do you get that information?

00:01:02.600 Rapidly.

00:01:03.500 Yeah.

00:01:04.580 Are you watching TV, or are you, uh, are you somebody, somebody relaying this to you?

00:01:09.040 Well, that kind of news, usually it's a combination of, you know,

00:01:12.360 there are TVs everywhere I am if I'm in the office, and, um, and then folks come in, so.

00:01:16.860 And are the people in the room pretending to not be happy, or how does that go?

00:01:20.520 I mean, in all seriousness, a jury of 12 people, peers, over the course of six weeks,

00:01:31.340 deliberated on the evidence and facts, and unanimously determined guilt for 34 felony counts.

00:01:39.260 The reality is, cheaters don't like getting caught.

00:01:41.940 And, you know, the reality is, let's just fast forward to, again, November.

00:01:53.540 I think the American people want to know that there is a president who believes they are accountable to the people.

00:02:00.360 That's the reality. Got it? Cheaters don't like getting caught. Alex, your thoughts on it?

00:02:04.620 Well, we'll see what happens. I love how she said, you know, we'll see what happens in November.

00:02:10.080 We will see what happens in November. Um, I, I, at this point, I don't think there are many people

00:02:17.620 outside of New York City who really believe that that was a fair trial. I mean, wouldn't you agree?

00:02:24.440 Oh my, don't get me started.

00:02:25.720 I just think that the, uh, the irony here, Mary, of the Democrats claiming the Republicans are upset

00:02:35.380 because they cheated to win a presidential election is just too thick for me to actually get through

00:02:43.300 without throwing up a little in my mouth. I like look back at Hillary Clinton, what she did with 1.00

00:02:48.240 Fusion GPS, not to mention ruining Trump's first term with all of the nonsense. And then secondly,

00:02:53.120 with Joe Biden and the Hunter Biden laptop and the denial of it all. I mean, the nerve to turn

00:02:58.860 around and say, oh, cheaters don't like it. And I got caught. Well, I mean, I, I'm not a political

00:03:05.340 analyst, you know, that I'm just like trying to keep my head down. Uh, and I also don't want to get you

00:03:11.320 banned off of YouTube. There are limitations on what you can say about cheating and 2024 elections and

00:03:18.020 all of that. So I'm just going to zip my lips shut and I'm going to throw away the key.

00:03:23.600 Well, I'll say it. It's absolutely galling because if anybody cheated, it was the Democrats. It wasn't

00:03:29.500 Trump. I mean, that's, that's just a lie. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump. He's

00:03:33.540 controversial. He can be offensive. He doesn't always have an adult relationship with the truth.

00:03:39.140 That's true of most politicians, but he's in a special class in some ways. However,

00:03:42.860 he did not cheat to win the 2016 election. That was a lie that Hillary Clinton came up with to

00:03:50.240 justify her pathetic loss. No one told you not to go to Wisconsin, madam. He won fair and square.

00:03:57.460 You're the one who did your level best to cast him as a Russian spy, to, to get the feds onto him,

00:04:02.760 to speak with Obama about spying on his campaign. Shame on you and shame on Joe Biden because he was

00:04:08.700 part of it too. Um, okay. So speaking of Donald Trump, he has done something that has surprised

00:04:14.080 a lot of people and that is he joined Tik TOK. This is the same president who tried to ban Tik TOK,

00:04:21.100 tried to force, uh, the, the ownership to sell. And Trump, I guess has concluded, like,

00:04:27.780 if you can't beat him, join him. And he's joined Tik TOK. Here's a bit of the first one he posted in

00:04:32.840 SOC 20. The president is now on Tik TOK. It's my honor. So he joined Saturday night as of Tuesday

00:04:52.900 afternoon, he had 5 million followers. And the video he posted that I just showed there already

00:05:00.300 has 77 million views just as a basis for comparison, the Biden Harris HQ. They're on Tik TOK too. They

00:05:08.520 have 354,000 followers, something, a number Trump passed in just a few hours. Pretty extraordinary

00:05:17.100 to have 5 million followers, but what does it tell us anything, Alex? Oh my gosh. It tells us

00:05:23.000 everything. First of all, you have to understand that Donald Trump is, and always has been the pop

00:05:28.640 culture president. So, uh, the first time that I met him, I actually told him that. And he, I mean,

00:05:34.880 he is the president and he's busy and he's meeting a lot of people and you know, he's perfectly polite,

00:05:38.580 but he's not really paying attention. I mean, you get it. Like when you're going through a lot of

00:05:42.020 people in your meeting. And when I told him, I said, it's such an honor to meet you. You are the

00:05:45.220 pop culture president. He paused. And then he looked directly at me and he was like, you're right.

00:05:50.900 I am the pop culture president. Um, and that is why he terrifies the left, right? It's that he has

00:05:58.700 his finger on the pulse of pop culture. He is authentically cool in a way that the Democrats

00:06:04.360 couldn't manufacture in their wildest dreams for someone like Biden. And all he has to do is have

00:06:11.220 some Gen Z-er on his campaign, help him create different videos that have to do with different

00:06:17.220 TikTok trends. He will become the biggest account on that platform. That will be huge

00:06:22.860 for his election, uh, or for his campaign gearing up towards the election in November. So I saw Mike

00:06:29.440 Cernovich, who I really love on Twitter. He said, Trump needs to do that trend when, when he's like,

00:06:35.000 um, I'm a, I'm a political prisoner. So I blah, blah, blah. I'm a political prisoner. So I blah,

00:06:41.560 blah, blah. He should be doing these types of trends, which would completely take

00:06:47.200 over the news in a great way for him. What do you think, Alex? Cause I mean, Mary,

00:06:52.360 cause it's one of those things where, you know, I'm not a huge supporter of TikTok,

00:06:56.480 but I also am on TikTok because I want my message to be heard by these young people who are being,

00:07:00.980 being indoctrinated with only left wing thought, you know, maybe we'll get a few of them to see

00:07:06.420 things in a different way. Definitely. I mean, the only thing I was wondering about is why didn't

00:07:12.480 Trump make this decision sooner? It seems like he was taking notes off of Vivek's decision to get on

00:07:19.520 TikTok and appeal to Gen Z. And he was doing these collabs with like Jake Paul and stuff.

00:07:25.640 And soon enough, like Trump is already popular with Gen Z males at the very least. He's going to get

00:07:32.320 like the broccoli haircut. He's going to start like zinning. He's going to wear the white.

00:07:37.760 I don't know what any of those things are. Help us old ladies. What are those things? 0.99

00:07:43.600 And I, I believe he will be the, the president that captures the zoomer heart through this medium, 0.95

00:07:50.480 but I can't enjoy it because I've already been banned on TikTok twice. So I'm going to have to

00:07:56.220 watch from the sidelines. What'd you do? Why? What did you say? I don't even know what happened the

00:08:02.740 first time. It's just, if you make pro choicers mad and they dogpile your account and mass report

00:08:08.680 you, you're going to get deleted. And then the pop culture crisis, TikTok account also got banned

00:08:14.160 because I think I was trashing the mean girls reboot. They got mad at that. Really? Were the

00:08:21.260 Chinese behind it? That's the other problem. If you're the Chinese are behind it, you can get 1.00

00:08:24.180 that crack down on you, but whatever. Um, they're almost as bad as the trans activists. Those are the 1.00

00:08:29.620 they constantly pile up on me online. I don't care. I don't care that I've upset you. Your mean

00:08:35.740 insults are meaningless to me. If anything, I take them as a compliment. I know you're just very angry

00:08:40.500 because you're trying to be female and you're not. Um, speaking of TikTok, the Biden here has

00:08:46.780 campaign decided to share with their 354,000 followers, a message about a story that's been in

00:08:53.400 the news this week. I mean, it's been in the news since 15. I covered the story the first time it came out

00:08:59.360 and it's been revived now. And it's about Trump allegedly, while he was hosting the apprentice,

00:09:05.900 allegedly using the N word in front of people and it allegedly being caught on camera. Like the,

00:09:13.980 I remember people saying this before the 16 election, like, Oh my God, you know, this is it.

00:09:18.560 Like, if that's true, he's done. You know, you can't like, he'll definitely lose if that tape gets

00:09:22.640 released. And then there was pressure on Mark Burnett. I remember Roseanne's ex-husband,

00:09:26.960 Tom Arnold kept saying, let's see the tape. Let's see the tapes. No tapes were ever released.

00:09:31.300 And Trump said, Mark Burnett says that no tapes exist. And Trump says this didn't happen more

00:09:38.280 importantly. Uh, but now what has happened is a, a producer of the apprentice who says he was under a

00:09:46.160 non-disclosure agreement and NDA for the past 20 years has just seen the agreement expire.

00:09:52.000 And now he is making the media rounds because he's promoting a book in which he makes clear.

00:09:57.820 Donald Trump is terrible. Um, that he was aware of it. He was a witness to it. It did happen.

00:10:04.280 And he believes there is tape of it though. Doesn't, doesn't know who has it or it doesn't

00:10:09.640 believe it'll actually ever come out. So let me just first show you what the Biden Harris campaign

00:10:14.260 posted on, um, on Tik TOK 21. Guys, you have to see this new report about Donald Trump.

00:10:21.620 A producer on the apprentice just came out and said that Donald Trump called a black contestant

00:10:25.600 on his show this, and here's Donald Trump's own former assistant confirming that there's a tape of

00:10:30.560 him saying it. I had an opportunity to go out in Los Angeles and sit down with the person who

00:10:36.380 actually has a copy of the tape. And I heard his voice as clear as you and I are sitting.

00:10:41.720 You have heard the tape since publication of this book. Absolutely. So, you know,

00:10:46.700 it exists and I know it exists. Anyone notice a pattern here? This is the same man who called

00:10:51.020 to execute innocent black men and spread racist lies about the first black president. Donald Trump

00:10:56.680 is exactly who we all knew he was a lifelong racist. Black voters kicked Donald Trump out of

00:11:02.200 the white house in 2020. And we're going to do it again this November. Okay. Just a couple of words

00:11:07.500 on that. He did not call it to execute innocent black men. He made public comments in favor of

00:11:12.600 the death penalty for the people who raped a woman in central park years ago and did not specify the

00:11:18.960 specific defendants though. There, it was believed that these five black men perpetrated the crime

00:11:24.820 after they confessed repeatedly without even having been accused. They volunteered to the cops. Okay.

00:11:29.640 I did this to her, but I didn't rape her. And then the one, okay. There's a lot of questions

00:11:32.900 still about that case. That's all I'm going to say for now because it's a deeper dive, but he did not

00:11:37.100 call for the execution of innocent men. Um, that was Omarosa. They played it. The, the Biden campaign

00:11:44.720 did who used to work for Trump. She also was, she came to fame on apprentice and she made those

00:11:50.560 comes back in 2018, right? So Omarosa's had a long, difficult relationship with Donald Trump and she

00:11:59.160 is a very interesting and smart, but I think she would admit difficult person herself.

00:12:05.040 She's had a lot of relationship conflict. Okay. She had, she got fired by John Kelly and some

00:12:09.980 explosive thing that happened inside the white house. My point is there's some bad blood there,

00:12:15.100 right? So that leads me back to the current guy who's out there making the rounds and we'll play

00:12:20.160 a soundbite from him in a minute. What do you make of it? Is this like a real story? Do you think

00:12:25.640 this is going to have any traction in particular with young people, Mary? Cause there's a reason they 0.87

00:12:29.100 put this on Tik TOK. I think it's obvious to everyone that this is an attempt at character

00:12:34.940 assassination. I find it hard to believe that that tape exists or that she heard that tape herself.

00:12:44.060 Um, but you know, we're in the age of believe all women. I, who am I to say? And also this is just

00:12:51.260 a repeat of the grab them by the P word tape. Is it not like, I feel like this is deja vu of 2016.

00:12:59.100 And it didn't work then. Why would it work now?

00:13:04.000 That's a good question. The P tape, like the infamous tape. There are three tapes

00:13:07.680 that, that, that allegedly Trump had prostitutes pee on this bed, uh, in Russia. The one

00:13:15.580 that said Trump assaulted Melania in an elevator and that there was tape of it. No. Yeah. And this one,

00:13:24.040 the infamous alleged Trump using the N word. There's a movie coming out of a biopic is coming

00:13:30.760 out from Hollywood about Trump soon called the apprentice. And it's interesting, the timing of

00:13:36.540 it all, they're going to be depicting a graphic rape scene in that movie of, of Trump raping his

00:13:44.900 former wife, uh, who is now past Ivana in that movie. And, and by the way, that is a claim

00:13:51.960 that was made in their divorce deposition in 1989, which she rescinded herself not too long after.

00:14:00.300 So it's just a straight defamation campaign. And this is another example of it.

00:14:06.240 Mm-hmm. Yes. Not, not surprisingly that movie movie quote unquote, you know, documentary was

00:14:12.900 written by Gabe Sherman who makes his living trying to take down prominent Republicans. That's his

00:14:18.940 thing. Well, first it was Roger Ailes. That was his white whale for years. Now Roger Ailes is gone. So

00:14:23.700 it's Trump. Here is the producer, Alex, who's been making the rounds. Uh, he went on CNN to tell us

00:14:30.340 how terrible Trump is. And at one point, Carolyn Kepcher, who was the head of his hospitality unit

00:14:36.440 and ran one of his golf clubs sort of came outside herself and said, Kwame Jackson oversaw Omarosa,

00:14:43.200 who was brought back onto the task and created all kinds of problems for herself and other people all

00:14:47.740 along the season, but was great TV and was kept around for whatever reason. And for that,

00:14:53.700 Carolyn Kepcher thought, well, Kwame deserves to be considered for how graceful he was in handling

00:15:00.060 this. And, and Trump seemed to have an issue with this idea all along. You could see him

00:15:06.260 reacting and shaking his head, wobbling his head, grimacing, wincing before he said, yeah,

00:15:14.900 but would America buy an, then he said the N word winning. And then I looked at Trump to see the

00:15:22.220 reaction that he was giving, like it was some sort of joke and he was still wincing and

00:15:28.440 bobbing his head. And he was serious. What do you make of it, Alex? Okay. If Donald Trump called

00:15:37.100 someone the N word ever in his life, Megan, you and I know they would not have been saving that

00:15:43.740 information for eight freaking years. It would have been everywhere. It would have been painted on

00:15:48.960 every building billboard broadcast and baby. If that was a real thing that happened and there was

00:15:54.580 a recording or any sort of proof, they wouldn't need to be doing this charade through the court

00:16:00.260 system that they're doing now, because that would have been the number one thing. This, that is the

00:16:06.400 proof and the evidence that they have been wanting so badly for all this time. They wouldn't just be

00:16:12.880 like, Oh yeah, it exists. You know, I've heard it, but it's not being broadcasted every, you know,

00:16:19.040 in every single outlet 24 seven. Um, no, it's completely, completely fake. And I also want to

00:16:27.020 point out how obviously scripted that Tik TOK was, um, that person was sent a literal script clearly from

00:16:35.860 the Biden administration to read and was paid to make a Tik TOK. One of the black Panthers founding members, 0.57

00:16:42.160 David Hilliard this week said that he is backing Donald Trump for president. I have seen no one

00:16:47.580 covering that. He called him an ally of the black population, but what is happening instead is that

00:16:53.200 we're running with this fake fabricated N word story for the umpteenth time. And I also want to 0.85

00:17:00.280 bring attention to the fact that right now there is a reason why they are running with this fake

00:17:07.660 apprentice N word story. And that is because what is really happening is president Joe Biden just gave

00:17:13.260 permission to Ukraine to use U S weapons to bomb Russia, which is instigating world war three. So 0.74

00:17:20.640 all of this happening simultaneously. Um, also while he's draining our strategic oil reserves to

00:17:26.340 temporarily lower gas prices, just so he can try to win the 2024 election. The Democrats do not want

00:17:31.980 that to be the news. So they are talking about an N word hoax with Donald Trump for the 150th time.

00:17:39.500 Give me a break. Hmm. You know, later today we have an interview with, um, the editor in chief of

00:17:44.760 variety, Ramin Satuta, who's spent tons of time with Trump. This is Trump cooperated with him and

00:17:50.340 has got a new book out about Trump, including these years. And we're going to get into all of it. It's

00:17:54.760 going to be fascinating. I've known this guy for a while, so I can't wait to talk to him about it and see,

00:17:58.380 you know, what, what he learned, but yeah, I mean, this is like, okay. Is if there's a tape show to

00:18:03.600 me because you're right, this would be the silver bullet. You, you want to bring down Trump's approval

00:18:09.400 ratings. I know I sound like one of those people, this look, this, if there's a tape of Donald Trump

00:18:13.820 using the N word, okay, let's see it because this is the silver bullet that the Democrats have been

00:18:19.160 dreaming about and it's never been produced. I think the goal is to have us talking about it.

00:18:24.200 Like you and I are talking about it though. They'd prefer we not talk about it in quite this

00:18:28.780 way. Uh, so, okay, that's that we'll move on. But you mentioned pro-life and pro-choice a minute

00:18:35.200 ago. So this story hasn't gotten anywhere near enough attention. Something extraordinary is

00:18:39.760 happening here. And speaking of the, in our first hour, we discussed how there's, you know, the,

00:18:44.800 the feds, the, the, those who prosecute crime get to choose what they're outraged about,

00:18:48.860 right? Like they're really outraged about falsification of business records. Um, but not

00:18:54.640 so much when a Democrat commits a crime or, you know, when Hillary Clinton violates the law. Um,

00:19:00.380 and that brings me to the latest, this is from the Washington examiner. Okay. Activists participated

00:19:07.500 in a blockade at an abortion clinic, um, in DC. They described it as a rescue. They used chains,

00:19:18.800 bike locks, and ropes to block the clinic entrance for more than two hours. And we've now seen tape

00:19:25.780 and it does appear that they did that. It was not like one of those things where they were on the

00:19:30.460 outside of the building, silently praying. They were inside the clinic and they were playing,

00:19:35.880 they're the praying out loud. So this is definitely against the law, but the question is what, what

00:19:43.300 should be done about it? What is the penalty? And we're showing the video now. One of the activists,

00:19:48.040 uh, Paulette Harlow was sentenced to two years in prison on Friday, which brought the combined 0.96

00:19:55.820 sentences of the 10 defendants involved in this incident to 23 years. Paulette Harlow, 59 years old,

00:20:04.440 nine were found guilty in jury or bench trials of violating the freedom of access to clinic

00:20:09.940 entrances act and conspiracy to violate civil rights. A 10th defendant entered a guilty plea

00:20:15.920 for one charge. So my question to you is whether the punishment fits the crime here, Mary, because

00:20:23.360 they definitely violated the law. I don't think there's much question about that,

00:20:27.560 but two years in prison for, uh, this woman who is 59 years old. Does that, does the punishment fit 0.99

00:20:37.020 the crime? Yeah. I saw another report that was suggesting she's in her seventies and her husband 0.67

00:20:44.460 is worried about her dying during her prison sentence. Well, here's what I'm convinced. Here's

00:20:49.860 what, you know, I might, I think this is an old article, but in any event, you're right. Cause what I saw

00:20:54.640 was she was 75 years old that she is 75 years old. Her name is Paulette Harlow. So regardless my old

00:21:01.760 article is wrong. Yeah. And they say she's in poor health too, by the way. It's just obviously

00:21:07.300 completely gravely unjust. I don't think that even needs to be stated right now, but I, I just got

00:21:15.980 reminded of this case in the UK where a woman was praying silently outside of an abortion clinic

00:21:23.100 and it, she wasn't even close by. It was on a nearby sidewalk. She was arrested for that. Yeah. She was 0.91

00:21:30.260 arrested for that. She had now ultimately she found out that she wasn't going to be prosecuted and she

00:21:35.440 got an apology, which like, thanks for that. Thanks for the apology. Like it matters. But obviously that's

00:21:42.540 not completely analogous to what happened here, but we should be expecting that for what's to come

00:21:50.780 because this is extremely punitive for no reason other than their political beliefs and our right

00:21:58.980 to political expression is vanishing. It is vaporizing in front of us. You can go outside of Supreme

00:22:08.380 court justice's houses and terrorize them. You can terrorize them, which is unlawful. It's

00:22:16.120 unquestionably a violation of the law. And that's fine. That will not be prosecuted, Alex. But if you

00:22:22.720 go because of your sincerely held belief, and by the way, this clinic is the most controversial for

00:22:28.620 those of you out there who are pro-choice are like, well, this is the most, in my opinion,

00:22:32.440 disgusting kind of clinic there is doing these procedures. Um, this guy, Dr. Cesar Santangelo

00:22:40.740 ran the clinic at the time live action once recorded him during an undercover operation

00:22:45.260 saying he would not help a baby in the rare event. The baby was born alive during a late

00:22:50.740 term abortion procedure, which, uh, happened there. And there's more about him. So, I mean,

00:22:56.620 I understand she was violating the law, but there was a reason that this older woman went in there 1.00

00:23:00.920 and did what she did. And now at 75 years old, she's going into jail and poor health.

00:23:05.660 And the husband cried to the judge saying, please, please, she's going to die in there.

00:23:10.120 And the judge said, oh, well, maybe, maybe she'll just hope her way through it. Maybe she'll just be

00:23:14.840 so hopeful about what happens on the back end that she'll live and come out and be free after two years.

00:23:20.140 Yeah. The judge actually laughed. The judge laughed when the husband was pleading, uh, for a lesser

00:23:26.160 sentence due to age and health of his wife. Anyone who is center right is under political

00:23:32.360 persecution in this country right now. I mean, that is the main, the moral of this story.

00:23:36.720 One of these elderly women, um, who who's also involved in this story is now going to jail for 1.00

00:23:41.720 several years. So she is who found what you're talking about with this abortion clinic. This is

00:23:46.800 where the five late term babies were found dead in buckets in DC. One of these women found them.

00:23:54.540 She is the reason that the public even knows about them. So everyone is upset. And the reason that

00:24:00.280 these women are being treated the way that they were or the way that they are is because we were 1.00

00:24:04.840 never supposed to know the public was never supposed to know what was really going on in

00:24:09.760 this clinic. And by the way, this isn't the only clinic in the United States where they're

00:24:12.540 performing late term abortions like this, although this is the type of stuff they don't want us to

00:24:16.880 know. Basically, we are told that late term abortion is a pro-life hoax, that we've made that up, 0.73

00:24:22.400 that, you know, that's insane. Nobody is aborting, you know, babies born at nine months or letting

00:24:26.260 them die after they're born full term. Um, and then you have the 75 year old woman sentenced to 1.00

00:24:31.020 two years in prison. Uh, her husband begging the judge to reduce the sentence because like we said,

00:24:36.240 she's probably going to die alone in there. The judge is laughing in response. They want to make

00:24:40.420 an example out of all of these activists, uh, the January sixers, uh, president Trump himself.

00:24:47.460 And I also want to bring it. Meanwhile, where's, where's, where are the people who are bombing the,

00:24:52.500 the family planning clinics who are threatening the family planning clinics and putting Molotov

00:24:57.180 cocktails. And I don't, where, where are those arrests? I'm Megan Kelly, host of the Megan Kelly

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00:26:03.040 Okay, ladies. So, um, have you heard it's pride month? I don't know if you're,

00:26:06.300 if anybody's told you that's, are you? Really? I didn't know.

00:26:09.740 Yeah. Yeah. Shocking, right? It's a, it's everywhere. Well, actually, Megan,

00:26:14.140 your dog told me. Yeah. My dog, my dog,

00:26:17.380 Strudwick, who is pulled into these culture wars against his will. It's rough. If you know what

00:26:22.240 I'm saying? Very rough. Um, so you, it's one thing, like, honestly, this started years ago.

00:26:28.960 Like I, I remember when it was like, be kind, be respectful of gay people. Like they have rights.

00:26:36.860 So, okay. That's one thing. Um, but here's another question. Now it's morphed into something totally

00:26:41.940 different. As you know, it's completely vile and disgusting and in your face and, and raunchy,

00:26:45.500 but why, why do the gays and the LGBTQ crowd, why do they get a month? Like we just celebrated or 0.65

00:26:52.080 marked, I guess that is a better word Memorial day where we honor our dead soldiers. What they get

00:26:57.980 one day veterans who served their country honorably. They get one day. Why did the tea crowd get an 0.66

00:27:04.820 entire month of me having to look at their tucket bathing suits and their debauchery on the streets 1.00

00:27:11.080 of America and insist that my children participate in it too. What kind of upside down priorities

00:27:17.640 are these Mary thoughts? Well, you mentioned that pride used to be about, you know, just being kind

00:27:25.820 and respectful regardless of everyone's sexual proclivities, you know, don't throw them off

00:27:31.340 buildings. Don't hate crime them and stuff like that. It's obviously changed and it's, it's been

00:27:36.940 different for quite a while now, but it was never just about kindness. It was never just about love is

00:27:43.500 love. Uh, it was always hiding something sinister and truly vile under the surface. And this is trite.

00:27:52.520 Like I wouldn't be the first person to say it. Plenty of people have said it. Uh, this is an

00:27:57.120 inherently sterile movement. They are sexually sterile people whose only way of reproducing is to

00:28:05.160 indoctrinate. And when you do that, you have to start as early as possible. And, you know, if you think

00:28:11.840 about pride, uh, underneath all of that fluffy flowery language, uh, and just really think about

00:28:19.220 the acts, which they are celebrating, and I'm not going to get into graphic detail, it's disgusting.

00:28:27.000 And everything about this movement is, uh, you know, pressuring people socially to suppress their

00:28:35.200 feelings of disgust and discomfort about these lifestyles as they're called.

00:28:41.840 Mm-hmm. The, um, we've got examples up and down, but the mayor of West Hollywood, this guy,

00:28:49.680 John Erickson, he had some thoughts, and this is one of the raunchiest, most disgusting

00:28:53.540 pride parades that exist. Uh, here he is talking about his favorite part of it in SOT 27.

00:29:00.000 What has been your favorite part of this event so far?

00:29:02.900 I loved going out there and seeing all the kids, um, just living and being there with their parents

00:29:09.520 of all shapes and sizes and just seeing them having so much fun and giving them fans and

00:29:14.560 throwing candy and everything like that. And then truly just in a world like today to have this right

00:29:20.040 now, fun and center, we need it now more than ever. Wow. That's what they want, Alex. They want our

00:29:26.020 children and they want every eyeball under 18 they can get. Why does it always start with the kids,

00:29:33.100 the kids, family friendly drag shows? I just, I never thought, I thought obviously there's

00:29:38.120 something perverse about it. It never occurred to me until Mary just said that, that they are,

00:29:42.760 they are sterile. They're not going to be able to reproduce the next generation of activists. So 0.75

00:29:47.280 they have to corrupt the ones that you and I bring into the world. My mind is blown by that.

00:29:52.160 That is just one of the most well-said, well-put, you know, descriptions of what's going on.

00:29:57.360 Mary saying that I can't even believe it. I mean, I can, but I can't, but it is so disturbing. If you

00:30:04.220 start paying attention and you just like mark down, you just start tallying how many times do they

00:30:08.220 bring up children? It is shocking. Yeah. Oh, here's another one. Here's a drag queen in Ohio, 1.00

00:30:15.300 not leaving much to the imagination on the plan. This is courtesy of, um, gays against groomers that 1.00

00:30:21.320 posted on X. Watch this. It's 31. It won't, I won't change your little town. Your own children

00:30:28.080 will. Your children will see us. Your children will love us. And your children will join us.

00:30:43.100 I don't think so, but they don't leave much to the imagination, Mary, right? It's like,

00:30:47.300 this is our plan. We're coming for your kids. No, they, they really don't leave it to the

00:30:52.000 imagination anymore. They're confirming every day that the slippery slope was never a fallacy.

00:30:57.920 Um, I, I just, I think about the innocence of children as something that was, you know,

00:31:05.920 supposed to be protected at all costs in any, any healthy society. And you asked earlier,

00:31:13.340 why do they need a month? Like, why do these people need that much validation and that much

00:31:19.760 public celebration? And why do they need to be worshiped like this? And the answer I think comes

00:31:25.920 down to the fact that these are deeply dysfunctional people. The list of comorbidities with identifying as

00:31:34.120 gay or trans is never ending. They're more likely to abuse drugs. They're more likely to have suicidal 0.95

00:31:41.240 ideation. They are more likely to have been offended against, uh, sexually as children as well. Uh,

00:31:49.820 you know, they're more likely to be extremely promiscuous, to carry STDs, to also have domestic

00:31:58.160 violence disputes when they are married. The list goes on and on and on. These are deeply dysfunctional

00:32:04.660 people. Uh, and also they need narcissistic feedback from everyone else that the whole point

00:32:12.040 of all of this is exhibition. And, you know, people say it's fine. It's fine. If you just do

00:32:18.280 whatever you want in your own homes, in your own bedrooms, it's fine. Whatever, who cares? You're not

00:32:24.260 hurting me. You're not hurting my family, but that was never the point. The point was always to go out

00:32:30.780 on the street in your bondage gear and show everyone your micro penis. That was always the 0.99

00:32:36.400 point. I also want to say, I see a distinction between gays and teas big time. I don't think

00:32:42.840 I know tons of gays. I'm from, I'm from the Northeast. I'm from New York. They're, they're

00:32:46.980 all normal, upstanding, lovely people. Some married, some not. It's the tea crowd where things start to go

00:32:54.480 south. Not all of them, but way too many to want them parading down your neighborhood. And there,

00:33:01.880 there are real problems with mental health in that community. I see it as completely distinct from gays 1.00

00:33:07.680 and lesbians, especially in that way, but it's in our face. And the problem is all these gay 1.00

00:33:13.400 organizations, like gay rights organizations, which one, which, you know, succeeded in all of their

00:33:19.660 missions have run out of things to do. And so now they're propping up this other group, which is

00:33:25.100 other in, in profound and important ways. That's not to say, by the way, that the pride parades,

00:33:31.200 even when it was just about gays were great things because they were very raunchy and in your face, 1.00

00:33:35.960 even when, before we got our trans insanity on like now, anyway, you were going to say something. 0.58

00:33:41.540 Go ahead, Alex. Well, I was just going to say, um, I think it's probably also deliberate that

00:33:47.660 it's a month long celebration, not just one day, because we need the time to expose children and

00:33:54.940 people to this lifestyle, because the more you're exposed to it, the more you just live with it,

00:33:58.400 then your guard goes down. You're less repulsed, be your less shock because you see it and are exposed

00:34:03.400 to it so constantly. Um, and so I think that's interesting. And I also think your point of, of

00:34:09.080 there, you have seen historically such a distinct difference between what is now the trans lobby and

00:34:14.720 then, you know, lesbian and gays, the loudest voice against the trans nonsense should, should be the 1.00

00:34:22.680 lesbian and gays because lesbian. Well, look at that clip, that clip we just showed us from gays 1.00

00:34:26.380 against groomers. Like that's a great X account. Those are, um, you know, I think there aren't they

00:34:31.680 two lesbian women. I'm trying to, I'm getting my accounts confused. Uh, but in any event, it's gays 0.99

00:34:35.640 against groomers for a reason. Sorry, keep going. Well, yeah, because they understand that if we

00:34:40.620 allow the trans people to keep running with this stuff, I mean, there will be no such thing as 1.00

00:34:46.120 gays and lesbians because every single kid who identifies as, as gay or lesbian is going to be

00:34:51.380 transed. They're going to be castrated. That just isn't going to exist anymore. So if anyone should 1.00

00:34:56.360 be outspoken against what that group is trying to do, it should be gays and lesbians, honestly.

00:35:02.540 It's so true. God. And you say, use that word castrated. That's it. Yes. That's what's happening.

00:35:06.840 I mean, I don't know why we don't normally use that word to describe what these guys are doing

00:35:11.460 to themselves, but that's it. Exactly. They're castrating themselves with abandon, like, and

00:35:15.720 then the celebrating it and like posting about it in Tik TOK. Like it's something great. We talked

00:35:19.760 about the RuPaul drag queen show the other day where they had this woman who had chopped off her 0.95

00:35:24.280 perfect, perfectly healthy breasts and then had like, um, like fake razors chopping off breasts with 1.00

00:35:30.960 blood coming off of her nipples and holding a bag of bloody breasts. Like this is like, this is 0.99

00:35:36.220 serial killer stuff. That's beyond dark. Um, here is just a bit. You can see the pictures here of

00:35:43.360 what happened at the West Hollywood parade in our second video, um, where they have no clothes on.

00:35:49.200 Look at these men, look at them. I mean, I see penises everywhere. Um, this I will say is not

00:35:57.720 unfamiliar to me. I saw this at the New York city pride parade for years. I don't understand. And I know

00:36:03.840 there are a lot of gay men who also object, but like, how is it that this is representative of

00:36:09.780 pride, right? Like what piece of this? It's like, if you want gay rights, if you want equal rights for

00:36:16.780 trans people, okay, why do you have to get naked and show me your penis? Like I, how does that factor 1.00

00:36:22.960 in to the cause? Mary I'm struggling. I think that if I had to sit in the, the armchair and psychoanalyze

00:36:33.540 these people, the reason why they have to broadcast all of this and they have to strip down naked or

00:36:40.980 nearly naked in the streets and show everyone how wild and raunchy they are. I think it's because

00:36:48.180 really underneath it all, they are ashamed of what they're doing. And we've all known people in

00:36:55.580 situations where they're doing something they know is wrong and they double down on it. And they insist

00:37:00.980 to everyone around them that they're adults and they know what they're doing and they're making

00:37:05.660 themselves happy and they know what's best for them. And how dare you say otherwise? And it goes for

00:37:11.980 issues of sexuality as well. I mean, most of all, because it's so, it's such a visceral part of our,

00:37:19.320 our identity as well. It makes sense to me that they're doing this because it's like a dare. It's

00:37:25.760 like, go ahead, tell me what I'm doing is wrong because they know it's wrong. Well, that leads me to

00:37:33.640 something interesting that you wrote about female rage and it dovetails perfectly in with these like, 0.85

00:37:40.440 there's like rage retreats that women are going on. And these tend to be the most privileged, 1.00

00:37:46.980 advantaged women in America. And what are they exactly so rageful about? Something you recently 1.00

00:37:54.420 wrote about and have pondered. So walk us through it. What's happening with the female rage movement? 1.00

00:37:59.580 Yeah, there, there were a lot of points that were converging when I decided to write this piece

00:38:04.920 about female rage. One of them was this wellness trend, which really I think is just kind of a

00:38:12.000 version of witchcraft, uh, called a rage ritual. And it's led by a self-proclaimed witch. So I'm not

00:38:18.640 just making that up. And all of these women pay thousands of dollars to go out into the woods together 1.00

00:38:25.380 and scream their head off and bang sticks on the ground and think about all of the people who have

00:38:34.580 wronged them and all of the injustices in their own lives and in the world. And somehow this is

00:38:41.900 supposed to be cathartic because you are like composting, uh, your, your trauma. I think that

00:38:49.040 was the wording that she used. It's like kind of a form of recycling. You can do this for free.

00:38:54.000 You, we, yeah, you was today and screaming, yelling with pots and pans. Yes. Yes. You can do

00:38:58.540 that whenever you want. And I just had to think about why these women are, are so unhinged. And I 1.00

00:39:05.340 had to admit to myself, like, I kind of feel like that sometimes I don't express it because, you know,

00:39:11.900 you, you shouldn't be a menace to society, but there is this like rage bubbling up in me. Can you

00:39:17.180 relate? Like, am I crazy? I feel rageful when I see these jerks talking about trying to indoctrinate

00:39:22.340 my children with their weird perversions. Yes, I do. But, uh, here's a little bit. So here's some

00:39:26.920 footage from women of women at the rage ritual retreat. This was posted in May. Uh, and the,

00:39:35.340 but the original source is Mia magic magic on YouTube. She's the woman behind the ritual. Watch.

00:39:47.180 I feel, what do you feel? I feel sad. I feel sad. I feel sad.

00:39:56.740 This is like our schools in New York after Trump won a spitting image.

00:40:20.520 that so wait let me stick with you on this mary what what are they what are they so angry about

00:40:28.980 like truly you can see them dressed in their lulu lemons like these are obviously not they paid

00:40:34.180 thousands of dollars so they they have some money they have some spare time because you know most

00:40:42.160 people don't can't take a few days off to go to a rage retreat um some were mildly attractive so

00:40:48.620 what are they so unhappy about i love mildly attractive so i mean obviously we're living in

00:40:55.940 a time of material excess and we have an excess of everything that we might want and all of the

00:41:02.620 comforts that you could possibly dream of and the clothing and the makeup and you can live this life

00:41:09.660 where you work a mindless job in hr or middle management something like that and you don't

00:41:16.880 need anybody um but you're living in an extreme quiet poverty of everything that a human being

00:41:23.940 needs to flourish and i think these women they're they're the epitome of the the affluent female 1.00

00:41:31.000 white liberals the awfuls like they they would never admit this to anyone else or to themselves

00:41:37.580 but i think they feel a deep discomfort with the direction that society is headed right now

00:41:45.980 where crime is skyrocketing this this society is becoming less and less safe there's less financial

00:41:55.080 security there's less predictability there are you also look around and see no testosterone anywhere

00:42:03.580 to be found like all of the men are just becoming complete wimps and it bears out in the statistics

00:42:09.760 that t levels have never been lower in decades decades and it's not going to get better anytime

00:42:18.460 soon in that regard so you really look around and see all these weak men and i i totally understand

00:42:25.060 having a response that is absolutely hysterical and that used to be a medical diagnosis by the way

00:42:31.700 you could be diagnosed with female hysteria i think we should bring that back so so alex um

00:42:38.760 interestingly the free press also had had a piece about this in may uh by olivia reingold and her the

00:42:45.340 title was i went to karen summer camp karen camp i love that i want to go but no wait when i read more i

00:42:52.640 don't um okay so she writes that there were nearly 50 participants they showed up uh to the same woman's

00:42:59.100 zoom for her first ever live virtual rage ritual that only cost 47 bucks that's not so bad happened

00:43:06.500 at 1 p.m in the afternoon when most employed individuals are still at work olivia points out

00:43:13.420 correct um and here's some of what she says this woman who runs it mia gives us a six minute warning 1.00

00:43:20.200 about the the powerful purging we are about to experience which could lead to the re-traumatization

00:43:26.660 of our pasts okay this is already a bad idea stop re-traumatizing yourself if you actually had trauma

00:43:32.940 try to compartmentalize and move on the more time you spend thinking about it the more damaged you will

00:43:38.040 be that's my two cents for what it's worth and i've had a fair amount of trauma so i know um okay

00:43:43.440 who do you need to yell at she runs across her bedroom to bark at us more go the vibe now according 1.00

00:43:52.560 to the writer is now soul cycle at hogwarts by 20 minutes in there's a shift with bet banducci that's

00:43:59.220 her last name here now taking a softer tone like she is tucking us into bed we are told this is our

00:44:03.820 last chance for grunts sighs and groans can you imagine

00:44:08.180 ah okay i just got it for free right here on the mk show and we collectively turned to the ceiling

00:44:16.460 to emit one final howl that i refuse to do this is the best part okay ready alex at the end a woman

00:44:25.220 asks a question if you don't have something specific to work with do you feel like just showing up

00:44:33.500 working with the energy of rage is enough they all know what she's asking what do we do if we're not

00:44:42.260 angry at all what if we're a karen without a cause this the answer goes as follows from this woman

00:44:50.540 banducci more often than not what i'm raging about is like injustice in the world you know like what's

00:44:59.980 happening in the middle east plastic in the ocean the enslavement of animals like you know there's a

00:45:08.200 lot to rage about and i have found that when we make ourselves vessels for the rage that is due to

00:45:14.840 greater injustice in the world you're still composting it like you're still alkalizing it you're still

00:45:22.920 being in service to it oh my god this is exclusively an american privilege can i just say that

00:45:33.700 only women to have this woman on would you please come back i'm going to try to book her and i want 1.00

00:45:38.960 you to to i need you to live rage ritual we're gonna howl together i we well we need to just cross

00:45:46.800 examine her on her methods and her her borrowed rage keep going alex i mean here okay my unique

00:45:55.340 take on this is women are unbelievably idle in modern america and this causes problems so these 0.99

00:46:04.100 women you know they claim that we don't have enough in this country we don't have rights um and then 1.00

00:46:10.440 when they obviously that's not true so then they run out of things to be angry about no one else we

00:46:17.180 in no other part of the world would they have that privilege i think that we have everything in this

00:46:22.200 country as women so we're bored to death we're making modern women are making a large disposable 1.00

00:46:27.920 income we have no family and therefore we're spending this disposable income on stupid crap like

00:46:34.700 screaming in the woods for thousands of dollars and i just want to remind you this same thing

00:46:41.380 happened in the 50s so so let let me just remind you of this okay so in the 50s what happened you had

00:46:47.400 a whole bunch of really really bored women um and and the feminists said well it was because the 50s 1.00

00:46:53.160 were so terrible women were were unpersoned we didn't have rights it was a terrible decade for us 1.00

00:46:58.720 um and they hate it but and i also hate the 50s but not for the same reasons that the modern feminists 1.00

00:47:04.820 do so all um all of the modern conveniences and inventions that made homemaking easier like tv

00:47:13.380 dinners in the 50s laundry machines frozen chicken not saying all those are bad but they all came so

00:47:18.460 quickly that women basically had no idea what to do with their time so they got super bored fast and then 1.00

00:47:24.780 what ended up happening is they revolted into what became the sexual revolution right because women 1.00

00:47:29.720 need to feel like they are contributing members of society marriage is good kids are good having

00:47:36.000 someone to look after and pour into other than yourself is good and it curbs becoming self-centered

00:47:42.260 these liberal women have everything in modern america so they have to come up with ways to feel 1.00

00:47:48.480 marginalized and have something to do with all of their excess time and money hence

00:47:54.160 what we're seeing here i'm glad you brought up the 1950s too because i'm thinking about the

00:48:00.660 stereotype of that housewife who she she gets beaten up by her husband every night for burning the dinner 1.00

00:48:06.960 and she's also taking pills all the time to try to forget the pain and i'm glad you mentioned that

00:48:14.640 because we should we should take notice of the fact that women these days are on these insane 1.00

00:48:22.600 pharmaceutical cocktails of antidepressants anti-anxiety medication on birth control uh even adderall and and

00:48:33.720 things that are stimulants like that and they're drinking and all of that mixed together with just the

00:48:41.300 neuroticism they were gifted with is a recipe for social upheaval yeah so there could be a chemical cocktail

00:48:50.940 if the more you ingest that is not natural to your body and the more troubles you imagine for yourself right i mean whether it's the

00:48:58.920 women at karen camp or elsewhere it is a toxic combo go ahead alex so that is absolutely true what mary's saying 1.00

00:49:07.880 women right now we are a sedated generation every most of the decisions that we're making on a day-to-day basis are done 0.99

00:49:14.640 under the fog of ssris or hormonal birth control which completely affects your personality your interests

00:49:22.600 who you are attracted to i'm going to be talking about this in my speech at turning point usa's young

00:49:28.460 women's leadership summit which you're speaking at this weekend in san antonio um and if and one of the

00:49:34.200 big side effects of these drugs of something like an antidepressant or anti-anxiety medication which

00:49:39.460 i would be willing to bet most of those women if not all are on the one of the main side effects is 0.84

00:49:45.880 severe depression suicidal ideation anxiety so it's actually making everything worse and nobody is

00:49:53.460 talking about that i think it's so problematic because look i know that those drugs can help people

00:50:01.680 especially short term if they're going through something really really terrible but we're just

00:50:06.060 handing them out like pez and people get hooked on them and then they get like used to them and then

00:50:11.880 the only solution is like a bigger dose or a different kind of them and the people meantime many of them

00:50:18.020 aren't doing anything to solve their actual problems i will say as somebody who's now in her 50s who had

00:50:23.420 many many years with birth control i'm a big fan of it i love birth control i don't i know there's a

00:50:27.720 backlash now amongst younger women but it did nothing but good things for me it cleared up my skin

00:50:32.800 gave me a regular cycle let me be able to have action without having to worry about an unwanted

00:50:37.320 pregnancy i'm a fan but i realized next time you make next time you have mary and i on we'll debate

00:50:44.400 you on that okay well you can't debate my actual experience it was awesome no no i know your actual

00:50:51.260 experience but but we'll convince you why why you should be um maybe joining us critical out against

00:50:58.800 it yeah critical of it okay all right well i will say it does have very nice benefits for your skin

00:51:03.480 depending on which kind you use and i loved that okay ladies thank you so much great debate goodbye my

00:51:09.580 my fellow karen campers is fascinating talking to you thank you thanks to you both later today we're

00:51:17.100 going to dive into the biggest political stories of the day with guests from the left and the right

00:51:20.360 plus an exclusive interview with variety editor ramin satuda on his new book about donald trump

00:51:25.980 and the apprentice we'll see you then thanks for listening to the megan kelly show no bs no agenda

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The Megyn Kelly Show - June 06, 2024

Trump as ＂Pop Culture President,＂ and Female ＂Rage Ritual Retreats,＂ with Alex Clark and Mary Morgan ｜ Ep. 811

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