The Megyn Kelly Show - August 26, 2025


Trump Attempts to Punish Flag Burners, Cashless Bail Crackdown, Snoop Slams Pixar: AM Update 8⧸26


Episode Stats

Length

19 minutes

Words per Minute

162.54205

Word Count

3,157

Sentence Count

197

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

Trump signs an executive order attempting to work around Supreme Court precedent on flag burning, plus a new pair of executive orders targeting cashless bail in deep blue cities. Plus, Rapper and Trump antagonist Snoop Dogg reacts to woke Disney Pixar programming in a very relatable way. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly.
00:00:35.480 It's Tuesday, August 26th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.
00:00:40.420 Instructs the Department of Justice to prosecute those who are engaged in these instances of flag burning.
00:00:45.700 President Trump signs an executive order attempting to work around Supreme Court precedent on flag burning.
00:00:51.580 Plus a new pair of executive orders targeting cashless bail in deep blue cities.
00:00:57.080 Y'all throwing me in the middle of shit that I don't have an answer for.
00:00:59.600 Rapper and Trump antagonist Snoop Dogg reacts to woke Disney Pixar programming in a very relatable way.
00:01:07.120 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
00:01:10.700 You know those movies that tell the stories of real-life heroes with the courage to stand up in the face of indescribable evil and hatred to protect and save others?
00:01:23.740 They're important, especially now when the world seems to need heroes more than ever.
00:01:28.480 Bao, Artist at War, is a film about how art and love can save lives literally and spiritually.
00:01:34.700 It's the remarkable true story of Joseph Bao, a gifted artist and master forger who risked his life to save others during the Holocaust.
00:01:44.800 There, he not only found the strength to survive, but also an unexpected love with Rebecca, a woman whose courage matched his own.
00:01:53.420 Their secret wedding, held inside a concentration camp, was later immortalized in the film Schindler's List.
00:01:59.540 Bao, Artist at War, opens only in theaters for a limited run beginning September 26th.
00:02:06.580 Go to baomovie.com, B-A-U-movie.com to watch the trailer, read about Joseph's real-life journey, and find showtimes near you.
00:02:15.620 Visit baomovie.com to watch the trailer and learn more.
00:02:20.480 And you can also sign your organization up for group screenings.
00:02:23.140 Again, that's B-A-U-movie.com.
00:02:28.280 On Monday, President Trump signing an executive order attempting to punish those who engage in flag burning,
00:02:35.540 ordering the Department of Justice to prosecute individuals who violate laws while desecrating the American flag,
00:02:42.880 so long, he says, as the First Amendment is not violated.
00:02:46.980 Good luck with that.
00:02:48.120 In 1989, the Supreme Court ruling in a 5-4 decision that burning an American flag is expressive conduct protected by the First Amendment.
00:02:57.520 The case originating with the arrest of one Gregory Lee Johnson in 1984 for burning an American flag outside of a convention center in Dallas, Texas,
00:03:07.140 protesting President Reagan's policies.
00:03:09.060 Johnson was convicted under a Texas statute outlawing the desecration of a venerated object, including the American flag,
00:03:17.660 if such an action were likely to incite anger in others.
00:03:21.820 The majority siding with Mr. Johnson, who said this violated his free speech rights and overturning his conviction.
00:03:29.000 Justice William Brennan, appointed by President Eisenhower, writing for the majority,
00:03:33.640 Johnson's expressive conduct does not fall within that small class of fighting words that are likely to provoke the average person to retaliation
00:03:43.240 and thereby cause a breach of the peace.
00:03:46.220 No reasonable onlooker would have regarded Johnson's generalized expression of dissatisfaction with the policies of the federal government
00:03:53.080 as a direct personal insult or an invitation to exchange fisticuffs.
00:03:58.200 Brennan also writing, quote,
00:04:00.100 The way to preserve the flag's special role is not to punish those who feel differently about these matters.
00:04:05.180 It is to persuade them that they are wrong.
00:04:08.160 Conservative icon Justice Antonin Scalia, siding with the majority in that case,
00:04:13.400 later saying of the decision, quote,
00:04:15.060 If it were up to me, I would put in jail every sandal-wearing, scruffy-bearded weirdo who burns the American flag.
00:04:21.880 But I am not king.
00:04:23.040 Senior White House staffer Will Scharf explaining the executive order Monday from the Oval.
00:04:28.960 What the executive order does, sir, it charges your Department of Justice with investigating instances of flag burning
00:04:34.520 and then where there's evidence of criminal activity,
00:04:38.400 where prosecution wouldn't fall afoul of the First Amendment
00:04:41.400 and instructs the Department of Justice to prosecute those who are engaged in these instances of flag burning.
00:04:46.980 That's like saying the DOJ is charged with investigating whether people can have individual opinions,
00:04:53.040 and where there is evidence those opinions are really, really bad,
00:04:57.380 if the prosecution would not fall outside of the First Amendment, we prosecute.
00:05:02.720 Also in the EO, quote,
00:05:04.240 In cases where the DOJ or another executive department or agency determines
00:05:08.580 that an instance of American flag desecration may violate an applicable state or local law,
00:05:15.300 such as open burning restrictions, disorderly conduct laws, or destruction of property laws,
00:05:21.020 the agency shall refer the matter to the appropriate state or local authority for potential action.
00:05:27.280 Eh, maybe the open burning thing could stand,
00:05:30.900 certainly if the flag is someone else's property you could get in trouble,
00:05:35.020 but the act of burning the flag will not be criminalized,
00:05:38.620 not under our First Amendment, no matter how much one may dislike it.
00:05:42.180 The Attorney General and Secretary of State also directed to deny, prohibit, terminate,
00:05:47.060 or revoke the visas of, and even seek the removal of,
00:05:50.500 foreigners who desecrate the American flag when legally applicable.
00:05:54.500 President Trump with more.
00:05:56.200 As you know, through a very sad court, I guess it was a five to four decision,
00:06:01.660 they called it freedom of speech,
00:06:03.240 but there's another reason which is perhaps much more important.
00:06:06.520 It's called death, because what happens when you burn a flag is the area goes crazy.
00:06:13.700 If you have hundreds of people, they go crazy.
00:06:16.000 You can do other things.
00:06:17.140 You can burn this piece of paper.
00:06:18.640 You can, and it's, but when you burn the American flag,
00:06:22.560 it incites riots at levels that we've never seen before.
00:06:26.780 People go crazy.
00:06:28.260 In a way, both ways.
00:06:30.300 There are some that are going crazy for doing it.
00:06:32.360 There are others that are angry, angry about them doing it.
00:06:36.520 Mr. Trump going on to say the penalty for inciting a riot via flag burning will be one year in jail,
00:06:42.700 but that punishment is not spelled out in the executive order.
00:06:45.880 The federal statute for inciting a riot carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
00:06:51.280 The incitement exception to the First Amendment, however, is very limited.
00:06:55.160 It would only apply if the flag burning, the speech,
00:06:58.400 is both meant to and likely to incite imminent lawbreaking.
00:07:03.960 Tough standard.
00:07:04.480 The president has long been interested in this topic.
00:07:07.940 Mr. Trump floating consequences for flag burners as early as November 2016.
00:07:12.900 Instances of flag burning becoming more common in recent years as left-wing radicals protest
00:07:17.720 everything about America, from the BLM riots of 2020 to the anti-Israel demonstrations across
00:07:23.820 college campuses to anti-ice protesters in L.A.
00:07:27.420 taking to the streets in June, waving foreign flags proudly as Old Glory burned on the ground.
00:07:34.200 Conservatives appearing divided on the order, some citing an incident in 2019,
00:07:38.600 an Iowa man sentenced to at least 15 years for stealing a gay pride flag from a church
00:07:44.100 and burning it outside of a strip club.
00:07:45.940 Theft and destruction of property do not fall under protected political speech.
00:07:51.480 Activist Chris Ruffo posting, quote,
00:07:53.900 I'm sorry, but as long as this is the status quo, I'm not going to work myself into a state of hysteria
00:07:58.460 about Trump's executive order on burning the American flag.
00:08:01.580 However, many prominent conservative voices speaking out against the order.
00:08:06.260 Right-wing radio host and former Marine Jesse Kelly posting, quote,
00:08:09.960 I would never in a million years harm the American flag, but a president telling me I can't
00:08:14.980 has me as close as I'll ever be to lighting one on fire.
00:08:18.540 I am a free American citizen, and if I ever feel like torching one, I will.
00:08:23.920 This is garbage.
00:08:25.420 Commentator Eric Erickson, who also has a law degree,
00:08:28.340 positing his theory about the executive order on X, quote,
00:08:31.020 The president's executive order on flag burning is not legal,
00:08:34.580 but it will get the Democrats to all go out and burn American flags,
00:08:38.800 yet again putting them on the 20 percent side of an 80-20 issue.
00:08:43.180 Right on cue, failed VP candidate Tim Walz from the DNC's summer meeting on Monday.
00:08:48.720 Now he's talking about burning flags.
00:08:50.580 He's going to have flag burning or whatever,
00:08:52.180 because he knows there's a hell of a lot of flags with his picture on it that are going to get burned.
00:08:56.280 We spoke to chief counsel at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, or FIRE,
00:09:01.020 Bob Korn-Ravere, who says this order flies in the face of the First Amendment.
00:09:05.960 It's a longstanding principle of First Amendment law that someone in a crowd who doesn't like
00:09:12.000 what a speaker is saying doesn't get to silence them by threatening to be disruptive.
00:09:17.260 The law and the First Amendment require that the government protect the speaker,
00:09:22.360 not the person who threatens violence.
00:09:25.400 And it appears that this executive order is predicated on saying that there are likely to be people out there
00:09:31.160 that don't like what the speakers are saying, what protesters are saying,
00:09:35.780 and therefore because of that we're going to silence the protesters rather than preserving order.
00:09:41.980 That seemed to be what President Trump was talking about when he was talking about crowd reactions to it.
00:09:47.120 And it's precisely the same argument that the Supreme Court confronted in 1989 in Texas v. Johnson
00:09:52.820 when it held that that justification couldn't support the Texas attempt to prosecute Gregory Lee Johnson
00:09:59.520 when he burned a flag in protest.
00:10:02.660 Revere describing what legal challenges may arise out of this order.
00:10:05.800 It looks like what is likely to happen is that someone, either at the federal level or state level,
00:10:12.760 will initiate some sort of prosecution against a flag burner,
00:10:17.320 someone who is protesting using that as their means of expression,
00:10:21.560 and that the defense, I would imagine, would include a constitutional argument
00:10:27.120 that this is merely an example of someone being prosecuted
00:10:31.480 because the government doesn't like what they're trying to say.
00:10:34.180 And that is a plain violation of the First Amendment.
00:10:37.140 If you go back to the whole question of incitement,
00:10:40.160 the Supreme Court in 1969 in Brandenburg v. Ohio said that
00:10:45.160 Klansmen burning a cross didn't constitute incitement.
00:10:49.700 And so this really is a non-starter from a constitutional perspective.
00:10:54.240 Revere also predicting this executive order will not have its intended effect.
00:10:58.760 President Trump in his statement appeared to say that by issuing this decree,
00:11:03.020 that was going to end flag burning in America.
00:11:06.060 And I think history shows that exactly the opposite is likely to happen.
00:11:11.660 After the Supreme Court struck down the Texas attempt to prosecute flag burning in 1989,
00:11:17.660 Congress adopted the Flag Protection Act that was designed to prevent flag burning
00:11:22.760 as a result of the Supreme Court decision.
00:11:25.000 And the effect of that was that we had more examples and instances of flag burning
00:11:30.640 in protest of passing that law than had existed in the previous 200 years in American history.
00:11:37.860 So I think that the reaction to this executive order is likely to be the opposite of what President Trump intends.
00:11:45.020 Coming up, President Trump puts far-left cities on notice by going after cashless bail policies.
00:11:53.320 And rapper Snoop Dogg draws backlash for complaints about woke Disney content.
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00:12:45.940 President Trump also on Monday signing a pair of executive orders taking aim at cashless bail,
00:12:51.900 meaning when people accused of crimes are not required to pay money to be released from jail pending trial.
00:12:58.380 One executive order purporting to end cashless bail entirely in Washington, D.C.,
00:13:03.960 the latest action amid the Trump administration's federal takeover of local law enforcement there.
00:13:09.000 White House Staff Secretary Will Scharf describing the second order Monday from the Oval.
00:13:13.760 Cashless bail policies are a key driver of the disorder we see on city streets all over America.
00:13:20.320 Catch and release system allows criminals to keep going back out onto the street and reoffending.
00:13:25.020 What this executive order does, it charges your attorney general
00:13:28.100 with identifying jurisdictions all over the country that have cashless bail policies.
00:13:32.700 And then it withholds or revokes federal funds and grants that are flowing to those jurisdictions
00:13:37.980 to ensure that we're only supporting the people who have reasonable common-sense policies around crime.
00:13:43.520 The bail reform movements began across deep blue pockets of the country around the mid-2010s,
00:13:49.060 that trend catching fire during the George Floyd era.
00:13:51.580 Washington, D.C. had already eliminated cash bail in the 90s,
00:13:55.920 while New Jersey and Illinois later followed suit by instituting purely risk-based bail assessments,
00:14:02.340 meaning you're either too risky to be released or you're not,
00:14:06.060 but there's no buying your way out of jail.
00:14:08.620 New Mexico and New York adopting policies heavily curtailing cash bail,
00:14:13.560 and cities like L.A., Philadelphia, San Francisco rolling out reforms of their own.
00:14:18.440 Progressives arguing cash bail unjustly punishes low-income offenders who cannot pay,
00:14:24.180 while wealthier suspects walk free ahead of their trials.
00:14:27.620 Supporters countering that it provides a crucial incentive,
00:14:30.780 ensuring suspects show up for their court dates,
00:14:33.680 and helps keep repeat offenders off the streets.
00:14:36.860 Throughout the 2024 campaign, President Trump vowing to reverse soft-on-crime policies.
00:14:41.900 Here he is from the Oval on Monday.
00:14:43.980 One of the executive orders has to do with cashless bail.
00:14:46.720 That was when the big crime in this country started.
00:14:50.700 When somebody kills somebody, they go in,
00:14:52.440 don't worry about it, no cash, come back in a couple of months, we'll give you a trial.
00:14:56.180 You never see the person again.
00:14:58.340 And, I mean, they kill people and they get out.
00:15:00.900 They thought it was discriminatory to make people put up money
00:15:04.300 because they just killed three people lying on a street.
00:15:07.140 Any street all over the country, cashless bail, we're ending it.
00:15:11.060 Attorney General Pam Bondi flanking the president,
00:15:14.240 offering some examples highlighting the risks of cashless bail.
00:15:17.680 A mother, a single mom whose house was burglarized,
00:15:21.320 and the defendant got out on cashless bail,
00:15:24.840 went back the next night and burglarized her house again.
00:15:28.720 That's why this is so important.
00:15:30.700 A man got in a fight with another guy.
00:15:32.860 He had a gun.
00:15:33.940 He was let out.
00:15:35.040 Next night, he got out, went back and killed him.
00:15:37.500 So that's why it's so important, President, what you're doing.
00:15:41.880 As we've reported on yesterday's AM update,
00:15:44.140 President Trump is eyeing Chicago and New York
00:15:46.460 as the next targets for a federal crime crackdown,
00:15:49.640 with Baltimore potentially in the running as well.
00:15:52.540 Legal challenges are expected for all of Trump's recent actions on crime.
00:15:58.840 Rapper Snoop Dogg angering the left with his recent comments
00:16:02.400 about his experience watching a Pixar movie with his grandson,
00:16:05.900 saying he was blindsided by an LGBTQ storyline in the movie Lightyear.
00:16:11.820 The comments made on the It's Giving podcast last week
00:16:15.340 going viral Monday on social media.
00:16:17.900 I took my grandson to see, uh, what was the movie with, uh, Buzz Lightyear.
00:16:23.180 Toy Story?
00:16:24.080 Not that one, but this.
00:16:25.100 Oh, the new, the new Buzz, the Lightyear.
00:16:27.280 So we watching it, and the lady, when they're like,
00:16:30.540 man, she had a baby with a woman.
00:16:33.000 One of my grandsons, in the middle of the movie, like,
00:16:35.920 Papa Snoop, how'd she have a baby with a woman?
00:16:38.400 She a woman.
00:16:39.560 Oh, shit.
00:16:41.140 I didn't come in for this shit.
00:16:42.340 I just came and watched the goddamn movie.
00:16:44.740 Hey, man, watch the movie.
00:16:45.920 Uh-uh.
00:16:47.060 They just said she and she had a baby.
00:16:50.220 They both women's.
00:16:51.240 How does she have a baby?
00:16:53.320 Shh.
00:16:54.320 The movie ain't over with.
00:16:56.000 So it's like, fuck me, I'm scared to go to the movies, man.
00:16:58.240 Like, y'all throwing me in the middle of shit that I don't have an answer for.
00:17:01.620 Outraged woke viewers firing off in the comments on YouTube.
00:17:05.180 One writing, quote,
00:17:05.960 Wow, I am so embarrassed that I ever liked him.
00:17:08.460 And I spoke positively about him to my kids.
00:17:11.360 Another posting, quote,
00:17:12.840 Wow, this is sad.
00:17:14.000 I thought Snoop was pretty open and accepting.
00:17:16.520 The comment panned by entertainment outlets.
00:17:19.400 AV Club writing, quote,
00:17:21.000 Snoop Dogg is opening up about a terrifying experience he had at the movies.
00:17:24.580 One that was seemingly so distressing,
00:17:26.940 it took him three whole years to talk about it.
00:17:29.060 No, it wasn't at a screening of Hereditary or Weapons or anything that would be slightly less
00:17:34.820 embarrassing for the gin and juice rapper.
00:17:38.120 Snoop Dogg couldn't handle a children's movie and a Pixar one at that for one specific reason,
00:17:44.700 lesbians.
00:17:45.980 Lord.
00:17:47.160 Despite the backlash, Snoop's views are far from unique.
00:17:50.540 The 2022 Pixar film Lightyear drawing backlash as the studio's first to feature a gay kiss.
00:17:56.700 The scene reportedly at one point cut from the film,
00:17:59.940 then restored after internal pushback from Pixar and Disney employees.
00:18:05.020 You know, the ones who were trying to get their self-described
00:18:07.840 gay agenda into Disney movies at every turn?
00:18:11.600 The film banned in more than a dozen countries in the Middle East and Asia,
00:18:15.400 like many other decidedly woke Pixar films since.
00:18:18.640 Lightyear going on to flop at the box office,
00:18:21.220 grossing just $226 million globally on a reported budget of $200 million.
00:18:27.940 As a point of comparison, Toy Story 4, which is normal,
00:18:32.260 also features Buzz Lightyear as one of the leads,
00:18:34.660 and it made over a billion dollars at the box office worldwide.
00:18:39.580 That'll do it for your AM update.
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