The Megyn Kelly Show - Trump Begins High Stakes China Summit, CIA Whistleblower on COVID, AOC Tops '28 Poll： AM Update 5⧸14

00:00:00.400 All right, full-time thoughts. Craig, who stood out?

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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Emily Drashinsky, host of After Party and the Megyn Kelly Wrap-Up

00:00:37.000 Show on SiriusXM Channel 111. It's Thursday, May 14th, 2026. And this is your AM Update.

00:00:44.060 I think this is a very important trip. Obviously, it's historic, but we have a lot of problems with

00:00:49.280 China. President Trump in China for a high-stakes summit with President Xi as both leaders face

00:00:54.820 mounting pressure at home. The IC's actions resulted in cover-up, wasted resources,

00:01:01.940 and a failure to properly inform policymakers. A CIA officer testifies in front of Congress,

00:01:07.640 accusing intelligence officials of downplaying evidence that COVID may have started in a Wuhan

00:01:13.040 lab, and accusing Dr. Fauci of improperly influencing the government's review. A shocking

00:01:19.600 new 2028 poll from one of the most accurate firms of the last presidential election, showing two

00:01:25.680 unlikely names leading the early primary fields, and a new book raising fresh questions about the

00:01:32.220 viral moment when cameras appeared to catch France's first lady shoving President Emmanuel

00:01:37.400 Macron in the face. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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00:02:34.880 President Trump arriving in Beijing for a high-stakes two-day summit with Chinese

00:02:39.320 President Xi Jinping. Mr. Trump and a delegation of American business leaders, including Elon Musk,

00:02:45.560 landing Wednesday night, Beijing time.

00:02:54.560 Air Force One greeted on the tarmac by a formal welcome ceremony with hundreds of Chinese children

00:03:00.420 waving American and Chinese flags, a military honor guard, and a military band. The visit

00:03:06.700 marking the first trip by a U.S. president to China in nearly a decade, with trade, Taiwan,

00:03:12.260 artificial intelligence, and the war with Iran all expected to be on the agenda. The major diplomatic

00:03:17.940 meetings beginning Thursday morning in Beijing, with President Trump arriving at the Great Hall

00:03:22.660 of the People just before 10 a.m. local time, greeting President Xi, and then sitting down

00:03:27.940 for a bilateral meeting. President Trump also expected to take part in a bilateral tea before

00:03:33.840 attending a state banquet at the Great Hall of the People Thursday evening.

00:03:38.760 The summit coming at a politically and economically delicate moment for both leaders, President

00:03:44.060 Trump arriving as his sweeping tariff agenda faces legal setbacks at home while the ongoing

00:03:49.800 war with Iran continues to drive up energy prices and test public patience, President

00:03:55.340 Xi facing pressure of his own, especially as the U.S. conflict with Iran disrupts oil

00:04:00.620 shipments through the Strait of Hormuz, driving up energy costs for China's manufacturing-heavy

00:04:05.700 economy. An expected focus of discussions, establishing new economic channels between

00:04:11.320 Beijing and Washington with a U.S.-China Board of Trade and a U.S.-China Board of Investment.

00:04:17.440 House Oversight Chairman James Comer yesterday on Fox laying out the balancing act for President

00:04:22.720 Trump. I think this is a very important trip. Obviously, it's historic, but we have a lot of

00:04:28.420 problems with China. They steal our intellectual property. They manipulate their currency. They 1.00

00:04:32.260 don't abide by any environmental laws. They're funding our greatest enemy right now, Iran. 1.00

00:04:39.180 But having said that, we really need to have a trade agreement, a fair trade agreement with

00:04:45.020 China. We need China to buy more agriculture goods from the United States. We need China to

00:04:50.620 import American energy. China has already received the message that the United States is serious with

00:04:56.880 all the tariffs that have been slapped on China. And if I were President Xi, I would worry if this

00:05:01.400 is an unsuccessful summit after two days, that China could be faced with even more tariffs from

00:05:08.020 the United States. A CIA officer testifying yesterday under subpoena, alleging intelligence

00:05:15.380 officials downplayed the possibility that COVID-19 began in a Wuhan China lab and accusing Dr. Anthony

00:05:22.920 Fauci of improperly influencing the government's review of the virus's origins. Special Operations

00:05:29.120 Officer James Erdman III appearing before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

00:05:34.740 Committee, chaired by Republican Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky. Senator Paul opening the hearing

00:05:40.200 by arguing the COVID origins debate was shaped by a small circle of government officials,

00:05:45.800 scientists, intelligence advisors, and outside experts, who he says were presented to the public

00:05:51.140 as independent voices, despite overlapping relationships and potential conflicts of

00:05:56.120 interest. The senator pointing to the biological sciences experts group known as BSAG as one

00:06:02.780 example, arguing some of the scientists involved in advising the government had also worked in

00:06:08.200 fields directly tied to the research at the center of the COVID origins fight.

00:06:12.940 For example, Dr. Ralph Baric collaborated with Dr. Zhengli Shi in Wuhan to create

00:06:18.640 gain-of-function coronaviruses. But Dr. Barrick was also part of BSEG and an active consultant

00:06:25.000 to intelligence agencies on the origins of COVID-19 pandemic. Likewise, Peter Daszak received

00:06:32.580 hundreds of millions of dollars from the U.S. government and worked with Dr. Xi also on these

00:06:37.900 gain-of-function experiments. Daszak was even sent to China with the WHO to investigate the origins

00:06:44.500 of COVID. So the very scientists that were commissioned to investigate COVID were, in some

00:06:51.380 cases, the very scientists who were complicit in the origins of the gain-of-function experiments

00:06:57.120 that may well have created COVID. Senator Paul singling out former director of the National

00:07:03.260 Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Dr. Anthony Fauci, arguing Fauci was not merely

00:07:09.340 involved in public health messaging during COVID, but had long-standing ties to national security

00:07:14.900 discussions on biological threats, dangerous pathogens, classified research, pandemic

00:07:20.500 preparedness, and COVID origins. How can Anthony Fauci objectively comment on a discussion of

00:07:26.880 COVID origins when he approved the very funding that may have caused the pandemic virus? He

00:07:33.360 referred to the idea that the pandemic originating in the lab was a conspiracy, that it was a

00:07:38.320 conspiracy theory. Dr. Fauci convened the now infamous February 1st, 2020 call. Some scientists

00:07:46.240 on that call privately raised serious concerns about a laboratory origin. Yet ironically,

00:07:51.760 those same scientists later co-authored the Proximal Origin paper, which publicly dismissed

00:07:57.680 the lab leak hypothesis. One author received a $9 million grant from Dr. Fauci's own agency

00:08:04.420 after he changed his opinion from lab leak on the private phone call to natural origin in public.

00:08:11.940 Erdman, who has worked for the CIA since 2013,

00:08:15.100 spending more than a year reviewing the intelligence community's handling of the COVID origins probe

00:08:20.140 as part of D&I Tulsi Gabbard's Director's Initiatives Group, or DIG.

00:08:25.420 Erdman telling lawmakers, intelligence leaders, and senior analysts

00:08:28.900 downplayed the possibility that COVID-19 began with a lab incident,

00:08:33.320 shaping not just the government's intelligence assessment, but the public debate over emergency

00:08:38.760 pandemic policies that followed. Intentional or not, the IC's actions resulted in a cover-up,

00:08:46.780 wasted resources, and a failure to properly inform policymakers. Public health policy

00:08:53.520 would have been very different had the American public been made aware that a virus from a lab 0.86

00:09:01.120 in China was going to serve as the foundation for an emergency use authorization mRNA products

00:09:08.720 being mandated by the former administration. According to Erdman, Dr. Fauci inserted himself

00:09:14.520 into intelligence community discussions twice, once in February 2020 and again in June 2021,

00:09:22.000 allegedly pushing officials toward a natural origin explanation. Here, an exchange between

00:09:27.720 Erdman and Senator Paul. Your conclusion is that changing from the scientific consensus of it being

00:09:35.900 from a lab to a neutral position by the CIA was significantly influenced by Anthony Fauci?

00:09:41.000 It was significantly influenced by Anthony Fauci's injecting himself into the IC,

00:09:46.900 particularly during the 90-day study. We have documentation that shows that as of August 12th,

00:09:53.460 The CIA was considering calling this a lab leak, August 12th of 2021.

00:09:58.420 And then that changed on August 17th of 2021.

00:10:03.100 And unfortunately, because the CIA would not provide us documentation that we asked for, we have no idea why that changed.

00:10:10.040 The CIA pushing back sharply, saying Paul's committee acted in bad faith by subpoenaing Erdman despite already receiving closed-door testimony from him

00:10:19.140 and calling the hearing, quote, dishonest political theater masquerading as a congressional

00:10:24.260 hearing. The agency noting it has already assessed COVID-19 most likely originated from a lab leak.

00:10:31.120 Senator Ron Johnson, Republican from Wisconsin, reading the statement toward the end of the

00:10:35.420 hearing, then firing back. I'm calling on CIA Director Radcliffe and this person to apologize

00:10:41.300 to Chairman Paul and this committee. This is not political theater. I have years and years and

00:10:48.500 years of built-up frustration of agencies like the CAA, Department of Justice, the FBI, HHS,

00:10:57.000 snubbing our oversight, giving us the big middle finger.

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00:11:13.120 reveal what was really behind the viral moment when cameras appear to catch France's first lady

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00:12:37.260 primary picture, showing two surprise names at the top who are not even close to the lead of

00:12:42.160 most national averages. The survey from Atlas Intel finding Secretary of State Marco Rubio

00:12:47.240 leading the Republican field by nearly 16 points ahead of Vice President J.D. Vance. On the

00:12:53.200 Democrat side, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York narrowly leading the

00:12:58.440 Democratic field over former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg and California Governor

00:13:03.460 Gavin Newsom. Those numbers a major break from the broader polling landscape, where Vice President

00:13:08.560 Vance dominates nearly every GOP survey, and former Vice President Kamala Harris leads in

00:13:14.420 most Democratic polls. The results of the survey standing out because of Atlas Intel's track

00:13:19.620 record in 2024, when the firm ranked among the most accurate pollsters of the presidential election

00:13:25.640 and correctly called the winner in every swing state. In this poll, Secretary Rubio dominating

00:13:31.160 the field, with 45.4% support. Mr. Vance in second with 29.6%, and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis in

00:13:39.800 third at 11.2%. That result sharply contrasting the RealClearPolitics polling average, currently

00:13:46.400 showing VP Vance leading with 40.5%, more than 20 points ahead of Rubio, who sits at 20.3%.

00:13:53.520 Donald Trump Jr. is third in the RCP average at 11.2%, followed by Governor DeSantis at 8.2%.

00:14:01.920 Until this latest Atlas survey, Vance topping every 2028 Republican primary poll included

00:14:07.440 in the RealClearPolitics average dating back to November, leading all but one of them by

00:14:12.580 double digits.

00:14:13.900 The split in the early polling coming as President Trump is now openly floating both

00:14:17.800 Vance and Rubio as the party's possible next ticket.

00:14:22.340 President Trump, Monday night at a Rose Garden Club dinner party.

00:14:26.240 Who's it going to be?

00:14:27.320 Is it going to be JD?

00:14:28.340 Is it going to be somebody else?

00:14:29.520 I don't know.

00:14:30.100 who does anybody have okay let's go you ready who likes jd vance

00:14:35.980 who likes marco rubio all right sounds like a good ticket jd it's a perfect that was a perfect

00:14:49.300 ticket by the way i do believe that's a dream team but these are minor details

00:14:53.680 That does not mean you have my endorsement under any circumstance.

00:14:59.040 I think it sounds like presidential candidate and vice presidential candidate.

00:15:04.120 On the Democrat side, Atlas Intel showing AOC narrowly leading the field with 26 percent support among Democratic primary voters.

00:15:12.520 Secretary Buttigieg following at 22.4 percent, with Governor Newsom close behind at 21.2 percent.

00:15:18.600 Former Vice President Kamala Harris, who leads most early Democratic polling, coming in a distant fourth in the Atlas survey at 12.9%.

00:15:27.320 That result also breaking sharply from the broader RealClearPolitics average, where Harris leads the Democratic field at 25% support.

00:15:36.060 Governor Newsom is second in the RCP average at 18.8%, followed by Buttigieg at 13.1%, and Ocasio-Cortez at 11.3%.

00:15:45.560 Before this latest Atlas survey, AOC had not topped any 2028 Democratic primary poll included in the RealClearPolitics average dating back to November, with VP Harris leading in the nine polls prior to the Atlas result.

00:16:00.520 AOC asked directly about her presidential ambitions during an appearance last week at the University of Chicago.

00:16:06.760 They assume that my ambition is a title or a seat.

00:16:12.160 And my ambition is way bigger than that.

00:16:16.960 My ambition is to change this country.

00:16:22.040 Presidents come and go.

00:16:25.240 Senate, House seats, elected officials come and go.

00:16:30.160 But single-payer health care is forever.

00:16:33.740 A living wage is forever.

00:16:35.560 But I make decisions by waking up in the morning, looking out the window and observing the conditions of this country and saying, what move or what decision can I make today that is going to get us closer to that future, stronger, faster, better than yesterday?

00:16:54.280 Just weeks before the one-year anniversary of the viral moment when cameras appear to catch France's first lady, Brigitte Macron, shoving President Emmanuel Macron's face, a new book is revealing more about what may have happened behind the scenes.

00:17:10.280 The Macrons had just landed for a stop on a tour of Southeast Asia.

00:17:15.400 As the couple prepared to disembark the plane in Vietnam,

00:17:18.540 Mrs. Macron seen placing both hands on the president's face 0.98

00:17:21.940 with enough force to push him slightly sideways.

00:17:25.820 President Macron, looking briefly startled,

00:17:28.780 recovered quickly, smiling and waving to the crowd below.

00:17:32.680 Mr. Macron later explaining the moment to reporters in remarks

00:17:35.540 translated from French, quote,

00:17:37.160 There's a video showing me joking and teasing my wife, and somehow that becomes a sort of

00:17:41.620 geoplanetary catastrophe, with people even coming up with theories to explain it.

00:17:46.740 We are horsing around.

00:17:48.600 Political journalist Florian Tardif's new book, An Almost Perfect Couple,

00:17:53.720 reporting the First Lady was angered by a text message sent by her husband

00:17:58.040 to an exiled Iranian actress now living in France.

00:18:02.640 Gulshifta Farahani, one of Iran's most famous actresses, was a major star there before becoming

00:18:07.900 internationally known in Body of Lies opposite Leonardo DiCaprio, the role making her a target

00:18:14.000 of the Islamic regime after she appeared without a hijab, eventually forcing her into exile.

00:18:19.780 Macron reportedly sending Farahani a text stating, quote,

00:18:23.320 I find you quite pretty. Tardif alleging the message fueled Mrs. Macron's fear that her husband

00:18:29.660 could leave her for the actress. A source close to the first lady telling French newspaper

00:18:34.900 Les Parijans that Mrs. Macron, quote, categorically denied to Tardif that the plane incident had

00:18:41.300 anything to do with a text message, insisting she never looks through her husband's phone.

00:18:46.320 According to Tardif, who interviewed the first lady for the book, Mrs. Macron gave a different

00:18:51.480 explanation of the incident, describing herself as exhausted after a turbulent flight, unable to

00:18:57.140 and reluctant to get off the plane, saying she pushed her husband away as he tried to make her

00:19:02.020 laugh and hand her water. Farhani also denying rumors of an affair with Macron, telling Gala

00:19:07.760 Magazine last year, quote, rumors, you have to let them go, fair or unfair, they're only rumors.

00:19:16.840 That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Emily Drashinsky, host of After Party.

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00:19:35.720 Alright, full-time

00:19:36.800 thoughts. Craig, who stood out? Brazil's

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00:19:40.760 Nah, for me, Italian cappuccino was the

00:19:42.720 standout in the box. But if we're talking

00:19:44.480 decadent performance, that's all France.

00:19:46.660 Chocolate creme brulee had the richest finishes.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 14, 2026

Trump Begins High Stakes China Summit, CIA Whistleblower on COVID, AOC Tops '28 Poll： AM Update 5⧸14

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