The Megyn Kelly Show - Trump Pick Gaetz Throws DC Establishment Into Turmoil, Tulsi's DNI Perch, and Don and Joy Quit X, with Ruthless

00:00:00.500 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:11.940 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.220 I'm already really, really enjoying the Trump almost presidency.

00:00:20.360 He, I think he loves the drama.

00:00:23.200 I think he loves sending people just running with their hair on fire to their little keyboards

00:00:28.840 to write things about him, good, bad, or otherwise.

00:00:31.700 And that's what he's been doing for the past eight days and probably will be doing for the next four years.

00:00:37.040 We've now reached the nuclear meltdown portion of the post-2024 election news cycle

00:00:42.660 as President-elect Trump's proposed cabinet takes shape.

00:00:46.380 If you thought Pete Hegseth's nomination, that's hard to say, Hegseth's, Pete Hegseth's,

00:00:53.260 try to say that, nomination to lead the Defense Department would get people talking,

00:00:57.160 Buckle up, baby, because another pick late yesterday sent shockwaves through both parties.

00:01:04.440 President Trump announcing Congressman Matt Gaetz as his nominee for attorney general.

00:01:11.400 What?

00:01:12.720 I mean, where were you when you heard, what?

00:01:16.260 As Sarah would say.

00:01:18.020 My hair's fell asleep.

00:01:18.940 It happened on the same day that the former president made a triumphant return to the White House

00:01:24.400 and was greeted by a positively beaming Joe Biden.

00:01:31.000 The news cycle is a gift.

00:01:33.940 We've got the perfect guests to discuss all this and more today.

00:01:36.980 Joining me today for the full show, the fellas from the Ruthless program,

00:01:42.660 Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook,

00:01:44.880 and the man known to his minions as Comfortably Smug.

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00:02:36.920 Guys, welcome back to the show.

00:02:38.560 Oh, it's so good.

00:02:40.080 We have so much to talk about.

00:02:43.720 Sometimes we save the best stories for you, and sometimes we just get smiled on by the gods.

00:02:49.000 Yeah.

00:02:50.820 I feel like it's hard to catch up.

00:02:54.600 All right.

00:02:55.460 I mean, where were you when you heard Matt Gaetz, right?

00:02:57.980 Because I think we were all like, oh, Pete Hexeth.

00:03:00.620 Well, there's a curveball.

00:03:01.640 And then it was like, no, right?

00:03:03.940 My exchanges with my team was like, we're like, bullshit.

00:03:06.320 No, you lie.

00:03:08.780 And sure enough, he's proposing, he's nominating Matt Gaetz to be the attorney general.

00:03:14.660 I'm not going to lie.

00:03:15.760 I wasn't even 100% sure Matt Gaetz was a lawyer until I was reminded he is a lawyer.

00:03:23.520 And it's had the predictable response.

00:03:27.460 Fetterman, I think, probably summed it up the best by saying the following.

00:03:31.660 I think this is it.

00:03:32.780 Let's listen to Sot One.

00:03:35.440 I mean, I would describe it as God-tier level trolling to just trigger a full-on China syndrome

00:03:43.640 to own the libs in perpetuity.

00:03:49.480 Pretty accurate.

00:03:50.300 I think he's right.

00:03:51.260 Right?

00:03:51.700 What do you guys make of it?

00:03:53.200 I love that he gets it now.

00:03:54.880 Yeah.

00:03:55.020 I mean, he totally gets it.

00:03:56.300 Well, I like to think of Donald Trump as like a T-Rex from Jurassic Park, and he's testing

00:04:02.380 the electric fencing on Washington, D.C.

00:04:06.100 You know, like, see how many of the establishment he can anger with these nominations, which has

00:04:11.680 been very entertaining.

00:04:12.800 Yeah.

00:04:12.980 Like, Pete Hedzik, obviously, created the defense industrial complex meltdown that we

00:04:19.680 saw.

00:04:20.300 And he was like, God, I really thought that would be worse.

00:04:22.520 Yeah.

00:04:22.700 Well, we'll get a load of this one.

00:04:26.900 Totally.

00:04:28.420 Somebody was saying that, like, Hegseth was the prep for Gates, you know, and now Gates

00:04:34.780 could be prep.

00:04:36.220 Hegseth was the prep for Tulsi, and Tulsi will be the prep for Gates, and now God only

00:04:40.560 knows what's coming next.

00:04:42.300 No idea.

00:04:44.440 I think the greatest renewable energy in Washington, D.C. is outrage.

00:04:49.200 Yeah.

00:04:49.360 But, I mean, he's threatening to take that meter down to zero.

00:04:55.000 All right.

00:04:55.620 So let's talk about it, because Gates, for the listening audience, is controversial for

00:05:00.880 a number of reasons.

00:05:02.880 He is definitely a professional shit-stirer.

00:05:06.080 He is fiercely loyal to Donald Trump.

00:05:09.640 He actually is a very effective cross-examiner, and that, now I am realizing, comes from his

00:05:18.500 time as a lawyer, but he's very good when he's going after somebody on Capitol Hill at

00:05:23.160 these hearings.

00:05:24.000 But he is also immersed in controversy.

00:05:28.540 Some salacious allegations have been made against him by the DOJ, which then decided not

00:05:33.640 to pursue charges.

00:05:35.080 Gates has denied these charges.

00:05:36.200 We can talk about them, but still under investigation by the House Ethics Committee or

00:05:41.740 Oversight Committee.

00:05:42.740 Now that's done, because he resigned yesterday when this news came out.

00:05:46.220 But it's going to come up if he goes through a confirmation hearing.

00:05:49.940 And then also, something probably closer to your hearts, you guys, he took down Kevin McCarthy

00:05:58.180 as House Speaker over on the Republican side, and then kind of didn't really have a solution

00:06:04.960 ready to go once Kevin McCarthy fell.

00:06:07.980 But this is one of the reasons why a lot of the so-called establishment Republicans hate

00:06:12.740 him.

00:06:13.240 And therefore, it is, let's say, far from a guarantee that he will be confirmed, because

00:06:19.160 we already have Murkowski and Collins on the record seeming to say it's a no.

00:06:23.860 They can't afford to lose too many others.

00:06:26.500 And, you know, you've got some squishes over there when it comes to these kinds of people.

00:06:31.840 So I don't know.

00:06:32.880 Andy McCarthy says, why are we even engaging in this debate?

00:06:35.500 He's never going to be confirmed.

00:06:36.640 So this is all pointless.

00:06:37.780 So who wants to take it?

00:06:39.240 Any of those?

00:06:40.320 Well, look, all of that is true.

00:06:42.640 Everything you said is true.

00:06:43.600 And look, he's dedicated his entirety of his congressional career to creating enemies,

00:06:48.800 mostly from within, like mostly within his own party, kind of go way beyond the establishment

00:06:53.840 of your own party.

00:06:55.260 He's just not played by anybody's rules, which I imagine probably makes him pretty popular

00:06:59.780 amongst the American people, certainly outside the beltway.

00:07:02.880 The problem is, as you suggested, at some point you have to figure out how to get 51 votes

00:07:06.720 to get confirmed as attorney general.

00:07:08.540 I think we may have talked about this, you know, months and months and months ago, Megan,

00:07:12.660 is that Donald Trump's nominee to be attorney general was always going to be the most controversial

00:07:17.900 of them all.

00:07:18.980 It was going to be the most difficult because of this hardened Democratic opposition to it,

00:07:24.580 some concerns lingering on the Republican side about what he would do with the Department

00:07:28.260 of Justice.

00:07:28.740 And so he just went full Leroy Jenkins on it and was like, if you're going to be controversial,

00:07:36.420 well, then let's make it the most controversial.

00:07:39.080 And that's where we're at.

00:07:40.640 I do think the only thing that I'm concerned about from a Trump standpoint is how much political

00:07:46.520 capital do you use on this stuff?

00:07:48.480 He's got four years.

00:07:50.140 And you got to figure out how to get a whole bunch of things done in the first six, eight

00:07:54.280 months and political capital is at its highest when you win an election, certainly in the

00:07:58.740 fashion that he did.

00:07:59.840 And you begin to drain political capital out of it with each thing that you do that becomes

00:08:04.860 controversial that you have to actually use the power of the presidency to try to get

00:08:08.940 through using too much on this in what may very well be something that just can't be

00:08:14.920 done concerns me a little bit because there's a whole bunch of things about that Trump agenda.

00:08:18.740 The American people really, really want him to spend all of his political capital getting.

00:08:22.540 Yeah, but, you know, he has earned the right to pick who he wants.

00:08:26.240 He had a huge win last Tuesday, and he has a mandate to pick whoever he wants.

00:08:32.480 And the Senate is going to consider them and we'll see what happens.

00:08:36.140 But I mean, if you look at Gates, like you said, he can cross examine.

00:08:39.300 The guy is not without talent.

00:08:41.100 And if you look at the beginning of his career, he is a guy who supported Jeb Bush in 2016, which

00:08:47.980 I think is why Comfortably Smug likes him so much.

00:08:50.640 Smug really liked Jeb.

00:08:51.920 So I look at the same data that Ashbrook and Holmes are presenting, and I think it's

00:08:58.620 accurate.

00:08:59.060 But my conclusion is completely different.

00:09:01.400 President Trump did come away with an absolute mandate, which is why I think every one of

00:09:05.780 these senators should be on board with it.

00:09:07.120 And like Holmes said, there's a small window where Trump can act.

00:09:11.700 And it's even shorter than four years.

00:09:13.080 It's even shorter than two years.

00:09:14.240 It's probably the first hundred days where you can really move the ball before you start

00:09:18.400 getting all the opposing forces organized and trying to stop Trump's agenda, which is

00:09:23.260 why I think Matt Gaetz would be the perfect person you want in place in those first hundred

00:09:26.860 days.

00:09:27.160 I think what most of these people are afraid of is, oh, God, we have the Department of

00:09:31.500 Justice and we used it to go after conservatives.

00:09:33.700 We used it to go after Trump.

00:09:35.520 You know, you had Merrick Garland calling parents who would show up to school board meetings,

00:09:39.160 domestic terrorists.

00:09:40.040 So we don't need to send, you know, the same old, same old.

00:09:43.160 We need to send the message that, hey, that time is up.

00:09:45.880 There's a new sheriff in town.

00:09:48.380 I I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I agree with you.

00:09:53.360 Smug, I was never really a Matt Gaetz fan.

00:09:57.200 I was never really a huge Matt Gaetz person at all.

00:10:01.080 I haven't really spent any time thinking about him other than with that whole Kevin McCarthy

00:10:04.500 defenestration thing.

00:10:06.560 But I know that there are allegations against him.

00:10:08.880 There are no charges.

00:10:10.100 So that's that.

00:10:11.020 I mean, they weren't able to make any charges and it involved his alleged relationship with

00:10:14.940 a 17 year old girl, which he's denied.

00:10:17.380 And then they were accusing him of sex trafficking.

00:10:19.360 He went on.

00:10:19.880 He denied this.

00:10:20.640 This is the thing he went on Tucker about a long time ago.

00:10:23.480 He answered the charges.

00:10:24.300 He says bullshit and didn't go anywhere.

00:10:25.700 So, I mean, that's that.

00:10:27.240 We'll see what the house says if there's something more.

00:10:29.320 But if there was something seriously more, we would have seen a charge.

00:10:32.760 But what I look at is two things.

00:10:35.180 Number one, and I tweeted this out yesterday.

00:10:37.500 If you are Donald Trump and your chosen attorney general has turned you over to Robert Mueller,

00:10:44.060 who then ruined your first term as president with a bunch of bullshit, then you leave office

00:10:51.340 and the next guy's attorney general is behind not one, but two criminal prosecutions of you.

00:10:58.900 And his DOJ is cooperating with not one, but two state prosecutions of you in a bridge that's never been crossed in our 250 year history as a nation.

00:11:10.740 Then I, too, might prize loyalty to me above all other qualities and go with a guy like Matt Gaetz.

00:11:20.080 Who can blame Trump for trying to pick the most loyal soldier he can find for this position?

00:11:27.780 And then point two is what you just said, Smug.

00:11:30.500 Eric Holder was a partisan hack loser.

00:11:35.380 And so is Merrick Garland.

00:11:37.560 Partisan hack loser.

00:11:39.240 So what do I don't care?

00:11:40.620 Like at this point, I'm like, you know what?

00:11:42.600 F you people.

00:11:43.700 Get the fighter in there.

00:11:45.100 The gloves are off.

00:11:46.180 You took them off.

00:11:47.480 Now Trump's brought in his own guy with the brass knuckles.

00:11:50.540 It's on.

00:11:51.840 Yeah, that's the greatest fear of Democrats is that other people will do to them what they've been doing to the American people.

00:11:57.220 And Trump picking people who are loyal to him is exactly what the American people want.

00:12:02.040 That's why he has the popular vote on top of the Electoral College in his victory.

00:12:06.020 He needs to send people who will execute his vision 100 percent.

00:12:09.880 And if he sees Matt Gaetz as a loyalist who's willing to accomplish that, I'm 100 percent on board.

00:12:14.060 I don't blame him, Duncan, for being a little squeamish about, you know, some rando establishment attorney general.

00:12:22.580 Sorry, Ashbrook, I interrupt you.

00:12:23.800 You go.

00:12:25.160 Go, go, go.

00:12:27.060 I mean, what I like I was saying, it's going to take a very, very strong person to fix these gigantic problems at DOJ.

00:12:33.480 And Gaetz will take a meat ax to it.

00:12:35.700 You can you can bet on that.

00:12:37.020 And if he doesn't get there, Trump will find somebody else who will do the exact same thing to because these problems have to be addressed.

00:12:44.580 That's why he was elected.

00:12:45.680 Go ahead.

00:12:47.360 Oh, OK.

00:12:47.840 I can see you looking at me, Michael.

00:12:49.940 I heard you there, Megan.

00:12:51.940 Am I squeamish about it?

00:12:53.800 No, I just to reinforce Holmes's take on this.

00:12:58.820 It's like you don't want to waste political capital on things that aren't going to happen.

00:13:02.800 I agree with everything that Smug said.

00:13:04.880 In fact, I think it goes deeper than that.

00:13:06.600 You go back and look at what James Comey did at the beginning of Trump's first administration, where he basically went to Trump Tower to President-elect Donald Trump and tried to entrap him and gave him oppo research generated by the Hillary Clinton campaign and said, hey, did you pee on Russian prostitutes?

00:13:22.120 And then he scurried back down to his car and typed out a bunch of notes and tried to leak it to the media to get a special counsel appointed.

00:13:30.500 So I'm all for that and rooting out all of the deep state bureaucracy at DOJ and the FBI and all of those sort of things.

00:13:38.360 I just don't want to waste any time.

00:13:40.120 The thing that makes me squeamish is trying to get a Gates through.

00:13:44.720 And we waste a lot of time solving these problems because, like you said, Susan Collins, Murkowski, like that's just political reality.

00:13:52.000 There are people who are going to not support him.

00:13:54.580 And I saw Dick Durbin this morning, you know, telling the House Ethics Committee that he'd love to see that report for the hearings against Matt Gaetz.

00:14:03.140 And, I mean, it'll just it's going to be a circus.

00:14:06.280 That's all I'm saying.

00:14:07.300 A circus.

00:14:07.880 So just to be clear, Susan Collins, the reports are that she will oppose Murkowski said, quote, we need to have a serious attorney general.

00:14:15.280 And I'm looking forward to the opportunity to consider somebody that is serious.

00:14:19.520 This one, this one was not on my bingo card.

00:14:22.480 So she hasn't said no, but she certainly sounds like a no.

00:14:25.340 Then Senator Tom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina, he didn't say no, but he said the following.

00:14:29.280 I have very few skills.

00:14:30.900 Vote counting is one.

00:14:32.020 And I think he's got a lot of work to do to get to 50.

00:14:35.740 So it's really about the Republicans.

00:14:38.620 There's this this is on the record from Republican Senator Bill Cassidy, who dodged Politico's question on Gaetz saying, I'm trying to go fix a toilet between getting back for a vote.

00:14:51.840 Life's a little hectic right now.

00:14:58.220 Megan, that's what you're seeing.

00:15:00.820 I think, look, there's an issue at the beginning of every administration in that what you would like to do is you take your political capital, take the mandate that the American people gave you and put your hardened opposition in a very difficult place.

00:15:13.720 And I think Donald Trump has got the opportunity to literally break the Democratic Party.

00:15:18.060 I mean, you look at all of the recriminations, Joe Biden's fault, Barack Obama's fault.

00:15:22.140 It's George Clooney's fault.

00:15:23.440 It's Hollywood's fault.

00:15:24.380 It's Oprah's fault.

00:15:25.520 Like they're all blaming everybody.

00:15:27.000 They don't know.

00:15:27.540 You hear people saying like, oh, we've got to moderate on social issues or we've got to be more clear populist opposition to big business.

00:15:34.980 They don't know what the hell to do.

00:15:36.620 They don't have an identity at all.

00:15:38.200 But the conversation that we're having right now is a conversation about Donald Trump versus Republicans.

00:15:43.200 And I think if you're doing that for a prolonged period of time at the beginning of an administration, you're sort of missing the opportunity to sort of forever change not only the policy that comes after, but the political dynamic in which Democrats live in, which they are very, very uncomfortable with, provided you have a united Republican Party that is absolutely beating the drum on them.

00:16:07.340 And it just makes it makes Dick Durbin's job easier.

00:16:11.020 It makes Chuck Schumer's job easier when we're arguing amongst ourselves.

00:16:16.440 And I understand what you're saying, Holmes, is he can go provocative, but he can't go full on nuclear.

00:16:22.080 Yeah, I think he can do whatever the hell he wants.

00:16:24.560 You just have to know that in the backdrop of all of that is that each one of these United States senators wake up every morning and see a president of the United States in their own mirrors.

00:16:33.500 Right.

00:16:33.820 All of them are elected statewide.

00:16:35.700 Many of them were elected, everyone that we just mentioned on this program were were mentioned were elected before Donald Trump ever came around.

00:16:43.200 Right. So like you have to try to figure out what is the best use of your political capital.

00:16:50.960 And if it's Matt Gaetz, if they decide it's Matt Gaetz, well, then it is Matt Gaetz.

00:16:54.280 And then we'll see how that whole thing plays out.

00:16:56.320 But I just worry about sort of the underpinning of that.

00:17:00.020 But, you know, you mentioned I think it was you, Duncan or Ashbrook, you mentioned the the FBI.

00:17:04.780 And that's another thing. I mean, the FBI is is within the DOJ and that's the organization that raided Mar-a-Lago and tried to humiliate him.

00:17:13.680 That's the organization that spied on churchgoers under Joe Biden to see if we were wearing our masks.

00:17:21.060 That is the organization that Biden pulled in to discuss whether parents objecting to the masks and the mandates and the school lockdowns were domestic terrorists.

00:17:31.480 And that is the organization that most Republicans believe needs to be shredded down to the studs and rebuilt fresh from scratch to focus on only one thing, which is law enforcement and not these investigations and so on.

00:17:44.800 And that is probably part of this, too.

00:17:49.180 You know, there was a report.

00:17:50.900 I think it was Politico today, I think, where did you see the guy who runs Polymarket had an FBI rate?

00:17:59.640 The FBI raided his house this morning at 6 a.m. and took his phone and other things.

00:18:05.040 And apparently one source close to Trump world in an interview to I'll figure out was Politico or Axios.

00:18:13.380 I get them confused, said he picked it was Axios.

00:18:17.220 He picked Matt Gaetz to stop shit like that, like just to or look at what happened to James O'Keefe.

00:18:24.920 Right. Like they're trying to harass him.

00:18:27.160 And the FBI showed up and it raided his house, too, after he was reporting on the Ashley Biden diary.

00:18:32.440 I mean, we really had some rogue FBI behavior here.

00:18:36.900 And I can see why they think you don't want a perfectly polite, you know, Queens English pinky out tea sipping lawyer to run herd over these guys.

00:18:50.880 Right. And that's the thing is it's frustrating that you have Republicans in the Senate who always wonder, oh, wouldn't this cost some problems?

00:18:59.260 And the Democrats never thought, well, this cost some problems when they sent Merrick Garland, when who wasn't fit for the Supreme Court.

00:19:05.700 So he's not there when they sent Eric Holder, who since running the Department of Justice has gone on to essentially start a dark money group that gerrymanders districts across America.

00:19:15.400 So conservatives can't have their voice heard. So we need to stop thinking about, oh, would this cost some problems?

00:19:21.340 Am I going to have a tough press conference and think about what could we gain from having Matt Gaetz there?

00:19:26.200 If he shows up day one at the FBI and says, anyone who has a problem with me, get up and leave.

00:19:31.360 And you see half the people in that building leave. That's a huge win. That's a solution.

00:19:36.000 Yeah, I guess at the end of the day, what I would prefer is that like the opposition, to use an analogy from golf, you're playing a heads up match against somebody.

00:19:45.400 They take out the driver and they hit it into the water and they're out of bounds.

00:19:49.800 Pull the five iron.

00:19:50.360 Pull a five iron and hit it down the middle of the fairway and go and use your political capital on, I don't know, deportations, a 70-30 issue in this country, fixing the economy, ending the wars.

00:20:03.280 Those things are worth using your political capital.

00:20:05.800 He doesn't need to. How does he, what do you, what do you mean? He already has the public support on those issues.

00:20:12.480 So he doesn't have to burn political capital to do those things.

00:20:15.840 Well, what I'm saying is the Democrats on the deportation issue will make it a circus.

00:20:21.180 They're going to make it a circus on the Mac Gaetz.

00:20:22.800 Yes.

00:20:23.160 But when, when, what's his name, Homan, his nominee.

00:20:27.580 Yeah.

00:20:27.880 Like, oh, man.

00:20:29.200 When all, when all this, when all that stuff starts to be implemented and put in motion, there's just an effect in, in Washington, I think, three months into a new administration, six months, where the cement starts to harden.

00:20:40.520 And it gets harder to do things legislatively.

00:20:42.980 Right.

00:20:43.400 And so if you get all of these things in process and in motion in the first hundred days, you're going to reap the political benefits into the future.

00:20:51.600 I mean, I think the biggest question.

00:20:53.400 How much, wait, I mean, let me ask this quickly.

00:20:55.560 How much can they slow down?

00:20:56.520 How much can the Democrats slow down this confirmation hearing?

00:20:58.840 So, like, how long will this drama be going, be with us?

00:21:01.980 Well, it's, it's not really up to the Democrats to, to provide the pace.

00:21:06.000 I mean, it'll be Chairman Grassley, the, the Judiciary Committee chair, will set a timeline.

00:21:11.220 They'll obviously have to go through, you know, your background checks and your financial disclosures and all of that.

00:21:17.280 And once they're satisfied with the information, then he sets a hearing date.

00:21:20.380 You've got hearings and ultimately, you know, report on a committee and they'll set a date for a confirmation.

00:21:25.800 So Democrats can't do a whole bunch about that.

00:21:27.700 But what they can do is turn the Judiciary Committee into a big top circus, as we saw, like, during Kavanaugh, for example.

00:21:35.780 They need a help.

00:21:37.060 Yeah.

00:21:37.440 And the question is, look, everything that you guys have talked about in terms of the problems with the Justice Department, the problems with Merrick Garland, you know, Eric Holder, insane, the FBI, everything they're doing.

00:21:47.920 Nobody disagrees on that.

00:21:49.340 I don't think there's any Republican that disagrees with the notion that we have to do something about that.

00:21:54.860 I guess the question is whether or not you send RuPaul in to do it, right?

00:21:58.800 I mean, there's different ways.

00:22:01.220 There's different ways to get it.

00:22:02.300 Holmes is out of Gates fan.

00:22:03.840 I think we've determined Holmes is not behind the pick.

00:22:06.980 I don't dislike him.

00:22:08.680 I mean, to be honest with you, Megan, my problem has never been with Matt Gates.

00:22:11.960 In fact, he's kind of said some nice things about the Ruthless Variety program.

00:22:14.780 So I have no problem with this guy.

00:22:17.800 I have a problem with us just sort of pretending gravity doesn't exist.

00:22:22.180 We're going to find out whether it does.

00:22:26.320 Yeah, I wish we would take the opportunity to sort of like study and understand how the

00:22:30.160 most effective implementations of policy have happened because we don't have a very long

00:22:36.120 It doesn't sound like Trump.

00:22:37.960 No, it doesn't.

00:22:39.500 But it doesn't.

00:22:40.040 He ran a campaign that did, though.

00:22:42.120 You know, I mean, he ran a campaign that was technically incredible.

00:22:44.900 But this is his most sensitive area.

00:22:47.420 Yeah, this is like the crowd size piece of policy for him, like trigger, you know, like

00:22:54.700 DOJ, FBI.

00:22:56.620 Imagine.

00:22:57.100 I mean, I understand it for the reasons I just stated.

00:22:59.560 Who has harassed Trump more than this string of DOJs?

00:23:04.940 It's his own to begin with.

00:23:06.940 Jeff Sessions recused, handed thing over to Bob Mueller.

00:23:10.220 Bob Mueller took over, made his life a living hell.

00:23:12.280 And, you know, then he had attorney general after attorney general who he couldn't stand,

00:23:16.700 who he didn't feel was loyal to him.

00:23:18.080 And even the New York Times is reporting about this this morning, like, well, they were grown

00:23:22.980 ups who were loyal to trying to keep him in check.

00:23:27.200 Well, he doesn't want that.

00:23:29.660 The American public may say we like it.

00:23:32.020 They may not.

00:23:32.980 But Trump, he's not required to like it.

00:23:34.800 This time around, he got smart for what he wants.

00:23:36.840 And he's like, I'm getting a loyalist.

00:23:39.420 But the problem was the first time around is this guy was elected president.

00:23:45.700 And what Duncan pointed out about Jim Comey is that he started his job assuming that the

00:23:52.020 government who worked for him and worked for the American people and the voters who chose

00:23:56.920 him would carry out his mission.

00:23:59.880 What he found out on day one is that the deep state is full of people who think they're in

00:24:04.000 charge, not that the voters are.

00:24:06.040 And he learned that he has to fight them.

00:24:09.160 And so at the same time that he has to have a smart plan and go up to the hill and be

00:24:14.560 realistic about what he's capable of achieving, he also needs to make sure that his six is

00:24:20.820 covered inside of his own administration.

00:24:23.760 And without the right people who are going to fistfight these bureaucrats who think they're

00:24:29.040 in charge instead of the voters, he's not going to be able to get anything done there

00:24:32.580 either.

00:24:32.800 So I think like maybe Matt Gaetz doesn't ultimately get there, but whoever Trump has at the Department

00:24:39.740 of Justice has to be laser focused on making sure that the voters will is represented rather

00:24:46.220 than the bureaucrats will.

00:24:47.500 Yeah.

00:24:47.760 Mm hmm.

00:24:48.120 And the other thing that Eric Holder's DOJ did, and this DOJ as well, is sick the DOJ on

00:24:55.780 police officers around the country, on entire police forces that aren't compliant with the

00:25:02.400 DEI requirements or that they basically come in and take over via a forced consent degree,

00:25:08.080 which isn't consensual at all.

00:25:09.560 Like, we're going to make your life a living hell unless you let us basically run your policing

00:25:14.240 towns like Ferguson, Missouri.

00:25:16.600 And that harassment needs to end.

00:25:18.800 And those are brutal fights, too.

00:25:20.540 So you do need a fighter who's kind of a mother.

00:25:25.080 Yes, you need that.

00:25:27.220 That's Trump.

00:25:28.340 And this is the guy like I don't know.

00:25:30.560 I kind of am curious to see if it could work out.

00:25:33.620 Maybe I'll rue the words.

00:25:35.280 Maybe he will get confirmed and he'll go in there.

00:25:37.020 It'll be a nightmare, but I'm kind of curious to see what it would be like.

00:25:41.080 I want to show the audience some of what we're talking about.

00:25:43.640 First, we shall look at some of the controversy around Matt Gaetz, courtesy of CNN.

00:25:51.100 Talk to Donald Trump's selection of Congressman Matt Gaetz to be attorney general sent shockwaves

00:25:57.600 through Washington and the country yesterday.

00:26:00.220 Gaetz has earned notoriety for a variety of political stunts over the years.

00:26:04.440 Here he was on Capitol Hill sporting a gas mask during the COVID pandemic.

00:26:08.740 But it's been his sexual, not political, exploits that have landed him in trouble in recent years.

00:26:15.960 He was accused of sleeping with an underage girl.

00:26:18.960 And there's a reason why no one in the conference came and defended him.

00:26:22.920 Because we had all seen the videos he was showing on the House floor that all of us had walked away of the girls that he had slept with.

00:26:29.540 He'd brag about how he would crush ED medicine and chase it with an energy drink so he could go all night.

00:26:38.260 Oh, boy.

00:26:39.040 That's a Republican.

00:26:40.740 That was Senator Mark Wayne Mullen last year.

00:26:43.100 Not just a Republican.

00:26:47.120 I mean, that's one of Donald Trump's most aligned Republicans in the entire conference.

00:26:53.260 I mean, that is a MAGA guy through and through.

00:26:56.980 Right.

00:26:57.460 So what you're saying is that the confirmation hearings are going to be NC-17.

00:27:01.240 Like, we should not let our children watch.

00:27:04.580 Is that pretty much where we are?

00:27:06.800 I don't know that we can ask for anything more.

00:27:08.420 I think it's going to be must-see TV.

00:27:09.840 This is the same playbook that they pulled on Trump.

00:27:14.980 They said, oh, gosh, all this salacious stuff about him.

00:27:17.780 There's this Access Hollywood.

00:27:19.160 Oh, and there's this porn star who now owes Donald Trump money for lying about him.

00:27:23.160 It's like, when are we going to learn that you can't compromise with these people?

00:27:26.580 Trump tried to compromise.

00:27:27.680 He tried to play nice.

00:27:28.500 He had Dianna Feinstein show up at one of those press conferences.

00:27:31.700 He had Schumer and Pelosi show up at press conferences.

00:27:34.640 And all they did was try to stand in his way and obstruct and now try to put him in jail.

00:27:40.220 Why should he compromise on anything?

00:27:41.800 And Republicans shouldn't be focused on, oh, is this going to compromise to get some more political capital?

00:27:47.760 No, we got to steamroll them.

00:27:49.560 We got so many electoral votes.

00:27:51.060 We got the popular vote.

00:27:52.940 It's not time to worry about political capital or anything.

00:27:54.960 You just steamroll everyone in your way because that's what the American people wanted.

00:27:57.600 Yeah, you have 100 days to get shit done.

00:28:00.240 And then you're kind of like already, if you're a one term president, closing in on lame duck status.

00:28:05.780 Let's take a look at Matt Gaetz.

00:28:06.880 I show you do some of the negative allegations against him, though.

00:28:09.420 I I posit that the gas mask incident is a positive for him.

00:28:13.160 I applaud it.

00:28:14.120 I fully support that.

00:28:15.820 It was absurd what we were doing.

00:28:17.600 And that's what he was trying to point out.

00:28:18.680 Um, let's take a look at the combative Matt Gaetz versus someone who is loathed by center, center right and right along as well.

00:28:28.780 Merrick Garland.

00:28:29.320 Did you ever have a family member profit off of the notoriety of any case that you sat over?

00:28:35.020 Say again, you're asking me.

00:28:36.000 Yes or no.

00:28:36.620 You're asking me to comment on a case currently.

00:28:39.200 Well, it seems you're connecting the dots, Mr. Attorney General.

00:28:42.160 I'm just asking you as to a general principle.

00:28:44.260 But you are aware that Judge Mershon's daughter was profiting off of this prosecution.

00:28:49.860 You are aware that that creates the appearance of impropriety.

00:28:52.360 You know, the very reason there's a federal rule against judges giving donations is because it is the very attack on the judicial process that we're concerned about.

00:29:01.820 I'm sorry.

00:29:02.320 I don't agree with anything you just said.

00:29:04.180 Well, the judge is making money on it.

00:29:05.240 The judge is making money on it.

00:29:06.680 The judge's family is making money on it for stuff that you yourself wouldn't do.

00:29:10.880 You know, no one's going to buy this.

00:29:12.640 No one's going to believe it.

00:29:13.540 It's going to create great disruption.

00:29:14.760 And I am saddened by it because, like you, I have given my life to the law.

00:29:17.900 I care deeply about the law, and I think that the lawfare we've seen against President Trump will do great damage well beyond our time in public service.

00:29:26.100 Let me tell you, so you guys—

00:29:27.340 How do we think any Republican senator go after Merrick Garland like that?

00:29:30.120 That's right.

00:29:30.820 And he's going to be a handful when they try to embarrass him at his confirmation hearing.

00:29:36.520 Oh, yeah.

00:29:36.960 Yeah.

00:29:37.280 No, no question about that.

00:29:38.580 I mean, he's handled himself in committee rooms just about as well as anybody.

00:29:43.060 Yeah, I mean, we'll see.

00:29:44.080 Look, if it comes down to a rhetorical battle, I feel pretty confident that he's going to do just fine.

00:29:49.840 The question is whether it gets to that or not.

00:29:52.740 Who are the likely no votes outside of Collins and Murkowski, guys?

00:29:56.660 I think there's about a third of that conference that wants this thing to be taken care of, where they actually have to do anything about it.

00:30:02.740 I think—

00:30:03.760 Wait, what do you mean?

00:30:04.460 What do you mean?

00:30:04.820 I think if you had a vote within the House of Representatives, which thankfully for him you don't have to do, but amongst Republicans in the House of Representatives, I don't know that he'd get more than 30 votes.

00:30:17.540 Like, I think this is somebody who people—it's not an unknown quantity.

00:30:22.440 You know, we're talking about the—at Gates as though, you know, he's just sort of showed up and he's President Trump's pick.

00:30:29.280 He is that.

00:30:30.540 But he's also spent the last six, seven years around a whole bunch of people who now determine his fate.

00:30:35.800 And that is not an irrelevant piece of this puzzle.

00:30:39.640 I mean, if you have Mark Wayne Mullen, of all people, expressing deep concern about his character, that bleeds over into a whole bunch of people.

00:30:47.980 So, and again—

00:30:50.380 They're not going to be worried, Josh, about crossing Trump?

00:30:54.420 You're—well, I do.

00:30:56.020 I think that's why there's a whole bunch of people who have not discussed whether or not they'll be supportive or not.

00:31:01.840 Unlike Pete Hegseth, where people ran out immediately and they said, oh, what a controversial pick.

00:31:06.560 And people are like, well, I think it's a great pick.

00:31:08.680 I mean, enormous amount of Republican senators that came out for a very uncontroversial pick.

00:31:14.380 And I do not—just once again, I don't want to conflate two things.

00:31:19.000 There is nobody in the Republican conference in the Senate who thinks you ought to have a Merrick Garland-led DOJ or that what the FBI did was great or that the warfare against President Trump and his allies is fair game.

00:31:34.740 Like, nobody thinks that.

00:31:35.820 Everyone thinks that this place needs an incredible amount of work.

00:31:40.420 Like, the question is whether this is the guy who is not only most capable of doing it but could do it at all.

00:31:46.720 And that, as I think, is what's going to be litigated.

00:31:49.280 Now, there's a chance he could get confirmed here, but he's got a lot of work to do is my only point.

00:31:53.960 And what I would consider for a lot of these Republican senators, especially the ones who voted to confirm Merrick Garland, is how about you rethink your thinking on what you would support for an attorney general?

00:32:06.040 Were you wrong in the past?

00:32:07.800 Maybe you should go with Trump.

00:32:09.480 He's been right to the point that so many Americans—you have the Democrat Party.

00:32:14.400 AOC removed the pronouns from her bio today on Twitter.

00:32:16.940 Okay, they're on the run.

00:32:18.660 She did?

00:32:19.260 What?

00:32:19.900 They're on the run.

00:32:21.260 And it's because of Trump.

00:32:22.240 It's not because a bunch of Republican senators—

00:32:24.240 That's shocking.

00:32:25.700 No, it was Trump.

00:32:27.440 And so he knows what he's doing.

00:32:29.340 You've got to get on board with this agenda.

00:32:31.240 The American people have said that they wanted it.

00:32:32.880 Why would Republican senators stand in the way of the mission that Trump is on that the American people have put him on?

00:32:38.820 And honestly, and it's not like the DOJ is such a vaunted institution currently in November 2024 that we have to maintain how pristine it is.

00:32:49.120 We can't have untoward hands touching it.

00:32:51.560 Please.

00:32:52.420 It has—its reputation is in tatters thanks to its own behavior.

00:32:56.520 Merrick Garland ruined it, absolutely ruined the DOJ.

00:33:01.760 He'll have to account for that with his God when he eventually meets him.

00:33:04.920 Okay, you mentioned Chuck Schumer, who is now the minority leader.

00:33:10.920 And get a load of this guy.

00:33:13.760 My God, it's amazing to me to watch these guys go.

00:33:17.780 It's Sot7.

00:33:19.560 To my Republican colleagues, I offer a word of caution in good faith.

00:33:26.240 Take care not to misread the will of the people and do not abandon the need for bipartisanship.

00:33:32.880 After winning an election, the temptation may be to go to the extreme.

00:33:38.460 We've seen that happen over the decades, and it's consistently backfired on the party in power.

00:33:44.440 So instead of going to the extremes, I remind my colleagues that this body is most effective when it's bipartisan.

00:33:50.640 Democrats will never abandon our values, but neither will we reject an opportunity to move the ball forward to make people's lives better when we can.

00:33:58.560 The question is now whether or not Republicans are willing to do the same.

00:34:03.940 To my colleagues on the other side, once again, do not abandon bipartisanship.

00:34:11.740 Wow.

00:34:12.760 Different tune than when he was threatening Supreme Court justices when they were.

00:34:16.420 Like here.

00:34:17.400 Listen, Ashbrook.

00:34:18.680 We have it.

00:34:19.640 Sot8.

00:34:20.120 I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price.

00:34:34.520 You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.

00:34:40.540 Wow.

00:34:42.200 Just perfect timing.

00:34:43.840 I think that's the only time Schumer was surprised.

00:34:46.520 It's the only time a crowd has cheered when he opened his mouth.

00:34:48.840 You know, not exactly a great community.

00:34:52.880 The worst.

00:34:53.500 The worst.

00:34:53.920 He's so shameless.

00:34:54.920 It reminds me of a story, Megan, back in 2016.

00:34:58.460 Democrats were absolutely so certain that Hillary Clinton was going to win and they were going to sweep in a Democratic Senate.

00:35:04.780 In that point, it was a Republican majority that Schumer called McConnell the day before the election.

00:35:11.420 And he said, you know, Mitch, this may not turn out great for you.

00:35:15.460 I sure hope we can count on you.

00:35:17.420 And we'll work in a bipartisan fashion.

00:35:19.380 But I hope I can count on your cooperation.

00:35:21.980 And, like, sure enough, the results come in and it's like a red wave the size of, you know, the mountains.

00:35:28.520 And so McConnell just called him back and was like, you know what, Chuck?

00:35:31.780 I think that was a good idea.

00:35:33.020 I think that could make a lot of sense to be cooperative.

00:35:36.360 Yeah.

00:35:36.560 You know, I mean, the Democratic Senate majority, you know, they are all about making D.C. a state and Puerto Rico a state and eliminating the electoral college and eliminating the filibuster.

00:35:47.380 And I wonder on that last one, eliminating the filibuster, if they're still in support of that, you know, now that now that we control the chamber, you think about guys.

00:35:56.140 Well, why don't we do it just for abortion?

00:35:59.120 That's what Kamala Harris said she believed in, that we should eliminate it just for abortion.

00:36:04.920 OK, why don't we do that now?

00:36:06.500 Let's eliminate minority rights in the Senate just on abortion so that the Republicans with a 51, it's going to be 53, seat majority can push through whatever national abortion legislation they want.

00:36:19.780 How do we feel about that now?

00:36:21.240 It's so hypocritical.

00:36:22.460 These people are so dishonest.

00:36:24.200 It's absurd.

00:36:24.840 And they're not going to do it.

00:36:25.660 To their credit, you will not see Donald Trump or these Republicans in control of the Senate and House even try that.

00:36:31.620 It's it's a liberal pipe dream and shame on her for even pretending that it was a reality.

00:36:37.400 It's it's not going to be.

00:36:40.040 I want to spend a minute on Tulsi Gabbard.

00:36:42.920 So director of national intelligence, which has gotten a lot of people upset as well.

00:36:49.600 By the way, was it the greatest trade to get Tulsi for Liz Cheney?

00:36:54.260 I mean, I don't think you could improve that.

00:36:59.020 I'd make a sports analogy, but I don't know any.

00:37:02.400 So they're upset.

00:37:03.740 They don't want her to do this.

00:37:05.060 They're they're actually back some corners of the Internet with she's a Russian spy, like she's somehow Russian because Hillary Clinton put out that nonsense when Tulsi was so effective in that 2020 presidential debate.

00:37:16.200 In any event, what is going to happen with Tulsi?

00:37:20.140 Will she be confirmed as director of national intelligence?

00:37:23.260 Yeah, I think she's got a different set of criteria and that most people do like Tulsi Gabbard.

00:37:27.640 And I think she's spent an awful lot of time over the last couple of years explaining her journey from, you know, being a Bernie Sanders supporter, essentially all the way to Donald Trump and the Republican Party and where she's gone.

00:37:39.800 From an Intel perspective, she's got a resume that that works amongst anyone you'd want to see there.

00:37:47.000 She's a veteran.

00:37:48.780 She's very smart.

00:37:49.600 She's spent a lot of time on these issues.

00:37:51.640 I think there will probably be some pretty serious questions.

00:37:54.780 I mean, this is what the nomination process should look like, by the way.

00:37:57.960 I mean, you're going to have Tom Cotton, a senator from Arkansas, who's now number three in leadership, who will lead the Intel panel in the Senate.

00:38:05.720 And he's got some very specific ideas when it comes to intelligence and national security that he's going to want some assurances and be addressed upon.

00:38:13.540 She's going to have that opportunity.

00:38:15.160 And I think provided she handles those confirmation questions well, I can very easily see her getting confirmed.

00:38:23.100 Well, can I ask you another question?

00:38:24.480 By the way, credit to Greg Price for that Tulsi for, I mean, for Cheney line.

00:38:28.720 He tweeted that out earlier.

00:38:30.940 Can I ask you a question?

00:38:31.980 So she's going to get in there.

00:38:32.800 I don't think Tulsi is an expert in national intelligence.

00:38:35.120 I don't see anything in her resume that would suggest she is.

00:38:38.340 But she's an honest broker.

00:38:40.220 She served our country in the military.

00:38:43.160 Obviously, she was a congresswoman.

00:38:44.740 She's I think he's hiring her for her judgment and her loyalty and her sensibilities.

00:38:51.100 So is that good enough?

00:38:52.440 I mean, she's going to be surrounded by a team that will help her understand the issues.

00:38:57.780 But am I am I wrong?

00:38:59.340 Like, as long as she's got a team that can say, here's what we're looking at.

00:39:02.940 Here are the decisions we need to make.

00:39:05.880 She can do this job.

00:39:08.180 Yeah.

00:39:08.940 Yeah.

00:39:09.340 I mean, no question.

00:39:10.040 She can do this.

00:39:10.520 I do think she's got pieces of her resume that do fit this.

00:39:13.540 And I think she spent an inordinate amount of time on national security issues in her

00:39:18.120 career and sort of understands it.

00:39:19.780 There's one set of questions that is going to be most significant amongst Senate Republicans,

00:39:26.100 and it comes down to a libertarian viewpoint of data collection and information collection

00:39:32.860 of our intelligence agencies.

00:39:34.620 This has been a battle going back to the Bush administration.

00:39:38.180 You know, Democrats used to be for it and then they were against it.

00:39:41.160 Republicans have always sort of had this viewpoint of what we ought to be collecting on foreign

00:39:46.380 adversaries.

00:39:47.060 And the more libertarian leading side of the Republican Party think like Rand Paul has always

00:39:53.220 had a problem with that.

00:39:54.020 And she's sort of aligned herself with the Rand Paul view of a lot of that.

00:39:57.740 That is not where the center of that conference is.

00:40:00.480 But I think when she listens to these arguments and understands fully, you're right, she's an

00:40:06.680 honest broker.

00:40:08.060 I think she has every capability of providing assurances that she's not going to like shut

00:40:12.400 down the intelligence apparatus of the United States, as some people would want her to do.

00:40:17.120 She won't do that.

00:40:18.540 And I think that again-

00:40:19.540 She's not going to go spying on civilians though.

00:40:21.860 Yeah.

00:40:22.300 She's not.

00:40:22.960 And that's, look, that is where this whole thing has gone astray and where people have

00:40:26.740 tried to figure out where those lines are.

00:40:29.040 It's a very complicated process, but it's one who somebody like that with integrity could

00:40:35.500 help get the base of the Republican Party back to a one view of how you handle intelligence

00:40:41.520 collection from our agencies.

00:40:44.100 I think the one thing that Spug mentioned earlier, which is 100% true and I think is a through

00:40:49.440 line on all of these picks, is like Donald Trump wants people he can trust in all of these

00:40:54.520 departments to execute his agenda and vision for America.

00:40:57.360 And that means they have to have loyalty to that vision, whether it's Matt Gaetz or Pete

00:41:02.560 Hegseth or Tulsi, somebody with a different view who reflects the mandate that the voters

00:41:08.080 gave him on election day is, and is there to disrupt the status quo and the failed bureaucracy.

00:41:13.160 I mean, and it's not just Tulsi, it's not just Matt Gaetz.

00:41:16.260 I mentioned Pete Hegseth.

00:41:17.600 You remember for the four years of the Trump administration, it'd be like the idea of a

00:41:22.140 deep state became a joke in liberal media.

00:41:24.080 They're like, oh, that doesn't exist.

00:41:26.000 And then the second Donald Trump's administration was over, you had TikToks, full media reports

00:41:30.660 about how people in the Pentagon slow walked his policies that he wanted to implement, which

00:41:36.000 I don't know, feels like a fireable offense.

00:41:38.340 You know, that they weren't informing the president of the United States that like when he told

00:41:42.200 them, hey, this is how I want to plan the step down and withdrawn in Afghanistan, they

00:41:47.580 would ignore him and they'd slow walk and they would hope he would forget.

00:41:50.560 That's why these picks are so important for Donald Trump.

00:41:52.940 He needs people that he can deputize at these departments to fulfill his objectives.

00:41:57.920 Yeah, that's right.

00:41:59.080 I got to tell you this.

00:41:59.960 So yesterday we talked a little bit about Christy Noem, who I admit was not my favorite

00:42:05.480 after the puppy killing incident and the reports about her and Corey Lewandowski.

00:42:10.540 I'm not going to lie.

00:42:11.280 I changed my opinion of her, even though I really liked her when she came on the show

00:42:14.600 to promote her book.

00:42:15.740 But if she gets confirmed to this very important position, we are going to have to support her

00:42:20.860 and I will.

00:42:21.920 And the more I thought about it, the more I kept thinking along the lines of, you know,

00:42:27.340 Tulsi for Liz and what a good trade this was.

00:42:29.960 Who in their right mind wouldn't take Christy Noem over Rachel Levine, which is one of the

00:42:38.100 senior most HHS or department of whatever he's over at HHS officials that we have.

00:42:43.940 Like, look at this.

00:42:45.080 At least we're now replacing the fake women with real ones at the top of government.

00:42:50.940 And I'm just thinking about some of the freaks who have been in the Biden administration.

00:42:54.660 Remember Sam Brinton, the luggage thief who was stealing the women's clothes.

00:42:59.200 But even before that came out, he was parading around our government with his bald head and

00:43:03.420 his big red lips and his weird clothing.

00:43:06.260 This this they hired him to work on nuclear regulatory stuff.

00:43:11.200 I like I guess I'm just sort of feeling like there's there's only so much Trump can do to

00:43:17.900 shock me at this point.

00:43:19.220 Right.

00:43:19.500 Like, I don't care about the picadillos.

00:43:22.720 It puts it in perspective, Megan.

00:43:24.360 And I'm so glad you mentioned this, because, like, you know, everyone's going to have a

00:43:27.240 debate internally in the Republican Party about Donald Trump's picks and which ones they

00:43:30.560 like, which ones they don't like and what the confirmation process is.

00:43:33.640 But in that montage you just played, it's important perspective for everybody listening.

00:43:38.940 If you're watching this, anybody Donald Trump puts up is going to be a vast improvement on what

00:43:44.440 we have now.

00:43:45.080 That is 100 percent true.

00:43:46.920 No trans luggage that I know of.

00:43:49.400 Right.

00:43:49.600 No.

00:43:49.760 And I'm going to venture it's going to be mostly like real women and real men.

00:43:54.620 You're not allowed to not hire somebody because they're trans.

00:43:57.240 That's what the Supreme Court said.

00:43:58.640 Justice Gorsuch was the deciding vote.

00:44:01.100 Even if they're in a position where they have to interact with people who might be, you

00:44:04.600 know, very against the belief that one can trans one's body, notwithstanding what

00:44:09.180 God has done to us in any event, that's a Gorsuch thing that he he OK in any event.

00:44:14.540 But we're certainly not going to have people parading around with bald heads and blue lips

00:44:19.140 and S&M gear at a minimum.

00:44:21.800 I think President Trump will reinstitute a dress code if we get that kind of a nonsense,

00:44:25.800 which is just a return to normalcy.

00:44:28.880 That's the thing is, how could any Republican senator stand in the way of President Trump when

00:44:34.400 we've gone through four years of this and like the front lawn of the White House was

00:44:39.380 full of trans people who are getting topless during an event President Biden's at?

00:44:43.100 Like, yes, over yourselves.

00:44:44.700 What is your ego thinking that this is not how things are done in Washington?

00:44:47.880 What have you seen for the past four years?

00:44:49.800 President Trump is the real return to normalcy.

00:44:51.940 Tom Homan would look pretty good with the with the blue lipstick.

00:44:54.840 Oh, my God.

00:44:56.580 Can't imagine Tom trying to make conversation with Sam Brinton at a cocktail party.

00:45:00.560 It's kind of fun to think about.

00:45:02.060 But think about so put the Kristi Noem dog thing aside.

00:45:05.740 Right.

00:45:06.000 I mean, it's like it wasn't a good controversy and it did cost her the vice presidency, potentially.

00:45:09.540 But so she's paid the price.

00:45:11.280 But here she comes back and now she's going to be if she gets confirmed running DHS.

00:45:15.520 Compare her to Mayorkas.

00:45:18.220 Yeah.

00:45:18.700 Oh, my God.

00:45:20.020 We were going to get somebody in there who actually does care about the border.

00:45:23.440 Trump wouldn't put her there if he didn't think she cared about the border there.

00:45:26.960 I mean, it's going to be a vast improvement.

00:45:29.020 And she's going to have Stephen Miller and she's going to have Tom Homan.

00:45:32.060 So I'm starting to feel really good about that whole lane.

00:45:35.240 You know, I mean, I think we're going to see changes there really quickly.

00:45:38.120 And there's nothing I mean, that we know of, at least, that could stop the Kristi Noem's

00:45:41.840 confirmation.

00:45:42.840 Yeah, really, really well said.

00:45:44.440 I agree with you on all of those points.

00:45:47.040 She also has the experience, right?

00:45:48.320 She spent an enormous amount of time in the House of Representatives.

00:45:50.820 She's been an executive as a governor, two term governor of a state.

00:45:54.820 And she spent an awful lot of time around Donald Trump to know exactly what it is that he wants

00:45:59.060 to do on the border and cares deeply about these issues.

00:46:01.380 I think it's a no brainer.

00:46:02.600 Yeah, I don't see anything that stops that.

00:46:05.280 Look how she handled a puppy.

00:46:06.480 That was a problem.

00:46:06.960 We think she's going to do a park house.

00:46:08.620 Well, yeah.

00:46:08.940 So that's the one wrinkle in this is new.

00:46:11.080 We have a new senator from West Virginia and Jim Justice.

00:46:13.920 If Jim Justice is dog.

00:46:15.560 He's going to want assurances.

00:46:16.580 He's got to be sure that you're not coming after baby dogs.

00:46:19.840 Oh, God, Duncan, when they mentioned Kristi Noem was the choice, the Internet, God bless

00:46:25.520 X, it resurrected all those scary dog pics from they're eating the dogs from that phase

00:46:30.920 of the campaign.

00:46:32.260 They were all over X like, Kristi Noem.

00:46:38.480 Very funny.

00:46:39.880 Very, very funny.

00:46:42.240 OK, I want to play this out for you.

00:46:44.300 It's not on immigration, but it's related.

00:46:46.220 It's about the crime in our major cities.

00:46:47.800 And here is the New York Times is Ezra Klein talking to the guys over at Pod Save America

00:46:53.720 about that.

00:46:55.420 Listen, the thing that surprised me least about the election was the sharp red shift in these

00:47:00.660 big cities, because if you just talk to anybody who lives in them, they are furious.

00:47:04.860 And this idea that like, oh, no, the economy is actually good or crime is actually down.

00:47:08.960 This is all just Fox News.

00:47:10.320 Like, shut the fuck up with that.

00:47:12.340 Like, talk to some people who live near you.

00:47:14.220 The rage I just hear from people in New York, this is partially Greg Abbott bussing huge

00:47:18.300 amounts of migrants here.

00:47:20.060 But that does mean, by the way, there are enough migrants that Greg Abbott could bus actual

00:47:24.100 human bodies to New York City.

00:47:26.400 And it was a big enough problem that New York City was not able to effectively deal with

00:47:29.580 it.

00:47:29.800 Right.

00:47:30.020 It does show that what was going on on the border was much worse.

00:47:33.040 I think the Democrats were letting themselves accept the sense of disorder rising.

00:47:37.320 Right.

00:47:37.620 Not just crime, but homeless encampments, trash on the streets, people jumping turnstiles

00:47:43.320 in subways, crazy people on the streets.

00:47:45.880 You just talk to people and they're mad about it.

00:47:48.280 You have to be able to govern well.

00:47:50.080 People don't follow politics, but they live in the place they live.

00:47:54.800 They see if prices have gone way up.

00:47:57.700 Ezra Klein says, shut the fuck up to people who say it's not a big deal.

00:48:03.640 Yeah, it's it's so refreshing to hear something like that from the left.

00:48:07.680 And I got to be honest with you, Megan, it is vindication for a guy like Stephen Miller,

00:48:11.780 who's been preaching about this problem for at least a decade, if not more.

00:48:16.800 And everybody's like, oh, Stephen Miller, he's just complaining about immigration again.

00:48:20.880 The guy understood it from the earliest days.

00:48:23.560 He and President Trump worked their asses off in the first time, first time around to try

00:48:28.400 to do something about it.

00:48:29.540 And now he's in a position to execute on the problem that he has seen for so long.

00:48:34.980 And I think that's one of the great things about having Trump back is he gets Stephen

00:48:38.300 Miller back to one of the things about save lives.

00:48:41.460 Yeah.

00:48:42.200 Oh, no question.

00:48:43.020 I mean, one of the things about this election that's so interesting, if you take the like

00:48:46.280 border security and immigration deal just as itself in history, it's been a base Republican

00:48:51.320 issue.

00:48:51.900 This is the first election in my lifetime where it has bled into the center and center left.

00:48:55.600 Why is that?

00:48:56.820 He talked as reclined, just talked about it, busing what DeSantis and Abbott were doing

00:49:01.320 of sharing the problem that they had with the with the places in the country that wanted

00:49:05.420 to pretend like it didn't exist.

00:49:07.340 Sanctuary city changed the conversation in a way where people are like, oh, man, that is

00:49:13.020 a problem.

00:49:13.760 And it you saw it electorally change this map.

00:49:16.980 Yeah, I guess I would just say as a caveat to all of this is like Ezra Klein feels comfortable

00:49:22.780 saying that now, yeah, now, because it's after the election and all these liberal journalists

00:49:27.460 and I saw it in Washington, D.C., you know, they would to mock the idea that the city had

00:49:32.400 become lawlessness and there was too much crime.

00:49:34.760 It's gone down.

00:49:35.360 They take pictures during the day and are can be like, oh, I'm so scared to be here in

00:49:39.260 D.C.

00:49:39.700 And so they were making fun of the American people for the last four years about this problem.

00:49:44.800 And the American people showed up on Election Day on and now suddenly they're having to

00:49:48.820 come to Jesus, which I don't I don't buy at all.

00:49:50.860 That's right, Duncan.

00:49:51.620 Yeah.

00:49:52.000 Where was your honesty when it counted?

00:49:53.940 Stand by.

00:49:54.800 So much more to get to with the fellows.

00:49:56.280 We'll do it right after this quick break.

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00:50:48.060 I got to get your reaction because you guys are all Senate know-everythings.

00:50:56.580 John Thune won.

00:50:58.620 Yes, yes, we are.

00:50:59.780 John Thune won for a majority leader.

00:51:01.700 He's going to be taking the role that Mitch McConnell said he would retire from.

00:51:05.140 This is despite a last-minute effort by Rick Scott, the entirely pro-MAGA loyalist versus

00:51:11.480 the other two who are conservative, Cornyn and Thune, who are in the running, but I guess

00:51:16.340 slightly less pro-MAGA.

00:51:18.360 I mean, they're fine with MAGA.

00:51:19.580 They're just not like Rick Scott.

00:51:22.360 So Thune won.

00:51:24.180 And then after all that, Rick Scott got 13 votes.

00:51:27.800 So it didn't go very well for him.

00:51:30.380 So what does this mean?

00:51:31.380 Because some of the core MAGA are fretting that John Thune is going to be somehow against

00:51:38.340 Trump or try to thwart his agenda.

00:51:41.480 Yeah, I don't think that's going to be the case.

00:51:43.240 In fact, I don't think there was a dime's worth of difference between Thune, Cornyn or

00:51:46.400 Rick Scott in terms of their energy that they're going to expend trying to get the Trump agenda

00:51:50.940 done and his nominees in place.

00:51:52.740 I think the biggest issue when you look at it is what are you hiring for within the Senate?

00:51:57.800 And the way I've tried to explain it to people is if a Trump tweet gets you 47, who is it

00:52:05.120 that is best positioned to get you the last four to get to 51?

00:52:09.440 And it's all about relationships within that building.

00:52:13.480 And, you know, the external pressure that you can put on the House of Representatives

00:52:17.140 is significant.

00:52:18.780 They're up every two years.

00:52:19.960 These people are up every six.

00:52:21.240 A lot of people were elected, you know, before President Trump came down the escalator and

00:52:25.380 they built their own coalitions and their own constituencies.

00:52:27.800 And so ultimately, it is about which leader has a relationship with their colleagues that

00:52:34.200 is able to control them to get to a point where they are a yes on these nominees, where

00:52:38.480 they are a yes on the tax bill that's inevitably coming.

00:52:42.140 All that stuff is going to be super contentious.

00:52:44.060 And you can bet there's going to be 46, 47 votes that Trump's position alone is good enough

00:52:49.540 to get there.

00:52:50.060 But 46 or 47 doesn't get you to 51 to make law.

00:52:53.860 And I think John Thune is uniquely able to have those conversations.

00:52:57.980 He's had these relationships with senators for a very, very long time.

00:53:01.960 He knows what it is that they care about, and he can make deals to figure out how to get

00:53:05.420 these things over the finish line.

00:53:06.960 So I think that's ultimately the good news for people who are maybe fretting about, you

00:53:11.300 know, is this guy all in versus somebody who they perceive as being all in?

00:53:15.320 He's definitely all in.

00:53:16.580 There's no question about that.

00:53:18.100 The question is, how can you be effective?

00:53:19.640 And I think he's going to be tremendously effective.

00:53:21.100 And just brass tacks, I mean, John Thune has had the job of vote counter.

00:53:25.760 He's been whipped, you know?

00:53:27.440 So like, this is a guy who has that experience of building all those relationships and knows

00:53:31.060 what these members need.

00:53:33.080 And to Holmes's point, like, you don't make law if you don't get to 51.

00:53:36.640 So like that.

00:53:37.700 Well, 50.

00:53:38.460 50 now.

00:53:39.600 Right.

00:53:39.960 50 now.

00:53:40.340 Yeah, 50 now, which is good.

00:53:41.800 Because you'd have JD there.

00:53:42.980 They can lose three.

00:53:44.100 So they can lose three.

00:53:45.020 So so on any given piece of legislation, let's say let's say Trump really wants to get a border

00:53:51.040 bill through and he doesn't want to do this all by executive order this time.

00:53:53.840 He'd like to get law on the books that requires the next guy to do it the way Trump's doing

00:53:58.380 it.

00:54:00.180 Who are likely to be the squishes in the Senate?

00:54:03.180 Because, you know, well, I guess I mean, he's got to what it's going to be tight in the

00:54:06.500 House, too.

00:54:07.140 They've got a four vote margin, we expect.

00:54:09.000 And now they're losing Congress and left and right, the elevated Stefanik, Walls, the

00:54:14.900 other guy for CIA.

00:54:17.180 And now Gates is out.

00:54:20.220 I'm I'm assuming we're guessing these people will also be replaced by Republicans, but it

00:54:24.120 could take a while.

00:54:24.880 But so so we've got Murkowski and Collins.

00:54:26.780 Mitt Romney's still in the U.S.

00:54:27.960 Senate.

00:54:28.520 That's three right there who don't always vote, you know, in line with Trump's ideals,

00:54:33.880 let's say we can anticipate.

00:54:36.040 How many more does he need to worry about?

00:54:37.920 Yeah, so so Romney's done actually in January and his replacement has arrived.

00:54:43.880 But I think you look at it in terms of, yes, there's an ideological issue when it comes

00:54:48.320 to the Susan Collins's and Lisa Murkowski's.

00:54:51.480 But always is the case with any piece of legislation.

00:54:54.420 There are there are pieces of parochial concern.

00:54:57.040 Right.

00:54:57.260 And you saw that play out like in the 2017 tax bill where Republicans all wanted it to

00:55:02.320 get done, but they had different pieces that they were concerned about.

00:55:05.140 I remember Ron Johnson and Steve Danes were vitally concerned about the idea that you

00:55:09.320 had this huge corporate tax cut, but small businesses didn't get any piece of it.

00:55:12.960 And so they had they were a no until they came back to him and started to work through

00:55:17.080 what a small business tax cut would look like.

00:55:19.280 That's going to show up.

00:55:20.420 And it has nothing to do with ideological components to it.

00:55:23.640 And it's like, what do I need for my constituents?

00:55:26.060 And it doesn't matter.

00:55:26.540 We get that.

00:55:27.160 We get all that.

00:55:27.780 They all have their weird little things.

00:55:29.240 But like you can look at Collins and Murkowski and predict, you know, they're soft.

00:55:34.800 They're they're not going to vote the way the normal Republicans are.

00:55:37.840 They're kind of they're almost Democrat light, Republican light.

00:55:41.180 I don't know where you put them.

00:55:42.320 But is there another like who else comes to mind is like, be be wary.

00:55:46.900 Well, some sometimes it's on off the other side of the spectrum as well, like especially

00:55:52.080 on an issue like immigration or border security, where you actually end up in trouble with

00:55:56.520 the conservatives like a Mike Lee or a Ted Cruz.

00:55:59.000 I'm not saying they won't get there.

00:56:00.500 I'm just saying it's not always the the squishes, the Collins, the Murkowski they have to worry

00:56:04.760 about in some of the situation really does depend on the issue.

00:56:07.520 Right.

00:56:07.920 Because there was a lot of fear of that when we had those contentious SCOTUS confirmation

00:56:13.160 fights where, I mean, some of these people, you know, like a Cory Gardner comes to mind

00:56:18.060 who, you know, swing state people who don't think he was as conservative as some of these

00:56:21.680 other people, but came out and supported those judicial nominees.

00:56:24.860 Susan Collins comes to mind that, too.

00:56:26.640 So, like, it's a little more complicated than it's like these three votes on every issue

00:56:30.760 that we have.

00:56:31.860 And you also got to remember that sweeping legislation on something like immigration will

00:56:36.540 take 60 votes.

00:56:37.860 So you're going to start counting Democrats to get to get rid of the filibuster just for

00:56:42.800 this one issue, Ash, just for this one.

00:56:45.900 You can you can you can address immigration narrowly through Josh mentioned the 2017 tax

00:56:51.540 bill.

00:56:51.960 They used a process called reconciliation for that that allowed the bill to be passed

00:56:56.020 at 51 vote threshold.

00:56:58.700 And so you can do some things on immigration under reconciliation, but not as much as you

00:57:03.760 you would like to.

00:57:05.060 We're going to break out the blue books and give you a big legislative lesson for you and

00:57:08.280 your audience.

00:57:08.700 I mean, it's starting to get interesting because actually, like, we could get some reasonable

00:57:14.520 things through once and for all.

00:57:16.320 And, you know, we'll see.

00:57:17.620 But I mean, Chuck Schumer is totally in favor of bipartisanship.

00:57:20.120 So it's exciting.

00:57:21.080 I think he's on board with the MAGA agenda, guys.

00:57:23.740 That's what he was clearly trying to telegraph.

00:57:25.960 We got to spend a minute on Trump on Capitol Hill yesterday.

00:57:30.260 Oh, my God.

00:57:30.860 So he goes, Hitler himself walked into the White House and shook hands with the guy who'd

00:57:38.080 been telling us he was Hitler.

00:57:39.780 And it's I think Joe Biden likes Hitler.

00:57:42.040 He's pro Hitler now.

00:57:43.220 Let's just watch some of the video because it's really fun to see.

00:57:46.160 You'll hear some pictures.

00:57:47.400 Look at this, you guys.

00:57:49.080 They're all smile.

00:57:50.840 Have you it's been a long time since I've seen Joe Biden this happy.

00:57:53.700 Oh, my friends, that right there on screen right is a Trump voter.

00:58:00.040 Am I wrong?

00:58:00.520 Prove me wrong.

00:58:01.280 You're not wrong.

00:58:02.340 I think they're planning a tea time at that moment.

00:58:04.720 Yeah.

00:58:05.340 You know, they really should do that.

00:58:09.060 That would be incredible.

00:58:10.520 Yeah.

00:58:10.680 Some of the memes out there were like, you know, having Trump say, and then I went to

00:58:15.900 McDonald's and then I dressed up as a garbage man.

00:58:21.220 But brilliant.

00:58:22.680 It was brilliant.

00:58:23.400 See how I helped you out by calling people garbage?

00:58:26.020 Anyway, we were marveling over the airplane logs in that fireplace behind that is that

00:58:31.940 can you imagine it must be like 400 degrees in that room?

00:58:34.780 Yeah, it looks amazing to me.

00:58:37.400 You know, me with my 76 degree studio, I'm really wrestling with the whole thing, because

00:58:42.600 on the one hand, I love to see it.

00:58:44.420 You do love to see it.

00:58:45.720 You know, it's the way it used to be peaceful transition of power.

00:58:48.880 They say mean things during the campaign, but we always come together.

00:58:51.720 Trump blew that apart in 2020, which was no bueno.

00:58:55.300 But here they are back at it.

00:58:56.580 But I just feel like it's also so disingenuous because Joe Biden's DOJ has been trying to put

00:59:02.100 Trump in jail for the rest of his life.

00:59:05.400 And his entire party has been calling Trump Hitler even after he took a bullet to the head.

00:59:12.900 So it's just to me, it's very hard to look at that guy on screen, right?

00:59:16.820 And be like, yes, shake his hand, Trump, you know, rah, rah.

00:59:20.100 Yeah, I mean, I'm certainly not like in a forgiving mood when it comes to how they've treated

00:59:26.500 President Trump throughout this campaign.

00:59:28.820 But it is kind of nice to have to watch them sort of grovel at this point.

00:59:32.660 Yeah.

00:59:32.920 Like there is a I think that there's an element of schadenfreude to the whole thing.

00:59:36.600 Oh, yeah.

00:59:36.860 Just like, oh, man, he's got to sit there.

00:59:40.120 But you know what?

00:59:40.660 He actually looks like he enjoys it.

00:59:42.880 I mean, I don't know about the White House.

00:59:44.480 You know, he looked fun.

00:59:47.460 Well, the White House staff did scramble out.

00:59:49.600 So when Trump was walking in, they were flocking to the steps just to catch a glimpse of him.

00:59:54.820 So you've got the most famous man in the world history walking in and nothing proves that

01:00:00.320 the king has returned quite like Biden's staff just trying to catch a look.

01:00:06.800 OK, but what do we think is really going on?

01:00:09.320 Because do we have the video, you guys, of Jill Biden and Kamala Harris sitting next to

01:00:14.640 each other in the Veterans Day ceremony?

01:00:16.700 Right.

01:00:17.140 Pull it over.

01:00:17.800 Pull it over.

01:00:19.220 Because that was amazing.

01:00:20.700 Right.

01:00:20.960 Like we'll we'll drop it in.

01:00:22.520 But it's the two women sitting next to each other.

01:00:26.040 And it you could feel the tension.

01:00:29.760 You could cut the tension with the knife.

01:00:32.440 And it seemed clear, although we watched a longer version of the tape.

01:00:36.340 And at one point we saw them smile at each other.

01:00:38.680 But in the moment where Kamala Harris comes in and sits down, it is frosty, to say the

01:00:44.780 least.

01:00:45.320 So what why would Jill Biden hate Kamala Harris, which is what the tape looks like?

01:00:52.320 This this is this is how Kamala Harris treats all Trump voters.

01:00:56.120 She has always been bad to Trump voters like this.

01:00:59.180 And you got to understand.

01:01:01.080 It's actually really interesting, though, like pathology behind the hatred of this goes

01:01:07.380 back to the Biden and Obama camps hating each other.

01:01:10.680 Yeah.

01:01:10.900 You had Michelle Obama, who who is very friendly with Hunter Biden's ex-wife.

01:01:16.280 And so they never liked Hunter Biden.

01:01:18.920 And of course, Joe and Jill are pretty fond of Hunter Biden.

01:01:22.760 So there's always been this chilly relationship.

01:01:24.420 And as we all now know, it was Team Obama behind dethroning Joe Biden, throwing him to

01:01:30.320 the wolves and then throwing in Kamala instead to be on the ticket.

01:01:33.520 So those two sides have never liked each other.

01:01:35.900 They were also discouraging.

01:01:36.640 Just remember, they were discouraging Joe Biden from a 2016.

01:01:39.640 Yep.

01:01:40.020 They basically cleared the way.

01:01:41.820 But that explains the Obamas versus the Bidens.

01:01:46.200 This is VP on P blood.

01:01:50.040 This is Jill Biden hating Kamala, which I'm just going to say, if you believe the narratives

01:01:56.800 we've been fed, Kamala was not behind the coup.

01:02:01.360 Kamala was a reluctant comer to the nomination.

01:02:05.440 She did nothing until Joe Biden surprisingly called her that Sunday to say, I'm bowing out

01:02:11.860 and I'm going to endorse you.

01:02:13.660 And she said, thanks a lot, my good friend.

01:02:16.080 And then she ran and she didn't crap on Joe Biden.

01:02:18.940 You know, she had opportunities.

01:02:20.700 She didn't do it.

01:02:21.540 So why does Jill Biden stare at her like the devil just showed up in the seat next to her?

01:02:30.300 Well, of course, it's all a bullshit story, right?

01:02:33.060 I mean, there it is, you know, look, she was she was eagerly anticipating the opportunity,

01:02:40.780 shall we say.

01:02:41.580 And it didn't start that way of her actually defending Joe Biden at all.

01:02:46.000 If you looked at their convention, it was like all the problems that beset the American

01:02:50.000 people just is the old guys responsible for all that.

01:02:53.380 And I just showed up and I'm going to fix it all.

01:02:55.080 It was a very much change message until you started getting these stories out of the White

01:02:59.240 House, these process stories about how irritated the Bidens were with that brand of messaging,

01:03:04.980 which I honestly think contributed to the ultimate gaffe of all gaffes that she made on

01:03:10.220 the view where she's like, oh, I can't think of anything I would do differently because

01:03:13.980 of that sensitivity that began to set in because she knew the Bidens were so pissed off at the

01:03:18.440 way she was handling it.

01:03:20.860 Hmm.

01:03:21.300 The other thing is now that she's lost, I mean, everyone on her team is like Biden.

01:03:27.940 First, they're like racists and sexists and Biden.

01:03:31.620 Right.

01:03:32.880 So I think they're Jill is probably like F right off Kamala.

01:03:39.380 I mean, I don't think they really wanted her in the first place.

01:03:42.340 Now, like I think this goes back to 2020 and, you know, basically the coup in the Democratic

01:03:48.320 presidential primary that Biden executed with Clyburn from South Carolina after he got

01:03:54.600 boat raced in Iowa and New Hampshire by Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar.

01:04:00.080 And then you get to South Carolina where Biden's going to do well.

01:04:02.600 And suddenly all these people who beat him decide to get out of the race and endorse him

01:04:06.120 and endorse him.

01:04:06.880 And part of that deal was I'm going to pick a black woman to be my vice president.

01:04:11.540 Lo and behold, he picked probably the worst one in America.

01:04:14.940 And she's not even black.

01:04:16.400 She's not even black, as it turns out.

01:04:18.100 I don't know.

01:04:19.380 He's competent.

01:04:20.980 You go back and read the reports out of the first three and a half years of this administration

01:04:24.640 about how she handled the job as vice president, the shouting matches she would get in

01:04:29.220 with staff, the reams of research papers they prepare for her.

01:04:32.360 Then she wouldn't read.

01:04:33.380 She'd do poorly on on camera and then complain to the staff.

01:04:36.540 She had like a turnstile in the office.

01:04:39.360 I just think Joe Biden is smiling now.

01:04:42.120 And Jill Bryant Biden is angry because like, you know, he's a very old Irishman and a very

01:04:47.180 old Irishman who's that stubborn, loves being proved right.

01:04:52.100 It's true.

01:04:52.800 And he's he's telling himself and she's telling him that he would have won, that this was all

01:04:56.800 unnecessary.

01:04:57.300 He was right all along.

01:04:58.880 She was, of course, always going to lose.

01:05:00.460 And he could have he could have won this thing to my point of like they welcomed Hitler,

01:05:05.740 you know, talking about how did Trump do it?

01:05:07.500 How did he walk into that into that White House and shake his hand and magnanimously be

01:05:13.020 like, you know, politics is rough, but today's a nice day and shake the hand of the guy trying

01:05:17.140 to put him in jail through his DOJ.

01:05:18.640 How did Joe Biden do it if he genuinely believes all the things he and his team have been saying

01:05:27.220 about Donald Trump?

01:05:28.540 It's a question raised by Charlemagne over on his radio show.

01:05:32.480 And he, too, has said that Trump is a fascist.

01:05:35.200 He was and he made Kamala say that Trump is a fascist.

01:05:38.600 And now he's really wondering why no one actually meant it.

01:05:42.080 Listen.

01:05:42.220 Well, I just don't understand the White House visit.

01:05:45.440 Now, granted, you know, I'm glad it's a peaceful transition of power.

01:05:48.620 But what happened to the threat of democracy talk?

01:05:51.100 What happened to the fascist talk?

01:05:52.600 By the way, I know I've said those things about Trump as well, but I'm not talking about

01:05:56.420 me.

01:05:56.780 I'm talking about his political opponents like President Biden.

01:05:59.780 When they say it, it holds way more weight than me.

01:06:02.320 I'm just trying to figure out how do you go from he's an essential, essential threat to

01:06:06.300 democracy.

01:06:07.280 So welcome back.

01:06:08.260 He was happy, too.

01:06:09.340 He was happy.

01:06:10.120 He was smiling.

01:06:10.760 He was winning.

01:06:11.320 He was cheesing.

01:06:12.340 Say cheese.

01:06:13.120 He was saying he was cheesing.

01:06:14.200 I'm just saying cheese.

01:06:17.040 Man's got a point.

01:06:18.620 He got a great point.

01:06:19.680 And that's the thing is, I think it's become very apparent to the American people that the

01:06:23.520 Democrats actually believe in nothing.

01:06:25.120 Yes.

01:06:25.360 Just power.

01:06:26.420 They just want to accumulate power.

01:06:27.940 They have no core beliefs whatsoever left in this country.

01:06:30.760 And so when you have Trump show up and the whole public sees Joe Biden being like,

01:06:35.860 oh, yeah, this is just a normal day.

01:06:37.940 Well, I mean, weeks earlier, Joe Biden got in some trouble saying that, like, we should

01:06:42.600 put Donald Trump in jail.

01:06:44.220 Yeah.

01:06:44.540 Right.

01:06:44.980 So so this shows that the Democrats were completely disingenuous.

01:06:49.380 Their entire campaign, the cornerstone they made it was that Trump is a fascist.

01:06:53.800 Trump is an existential threat.

01:06:55.320 Well, clearly he wasn't.

01:06:56.940 If they're willing to welcome him back, this is not Germany in 1933.

01:07:00.360 That's just what they do now is they malign their political opponents even after someone

01:07:04.460 tries to assassinate.

01:07:05.260 But this is one of the instances in which I think Donald Trump is at his best because

01:07:09.660 he could return serve and he could be rhetorically as negative as they were the entire last

01:07:14.440 political campaign.

01:07:15.260 But he chooses not to.

01:07:16.260 And why?

01:07:17.260 Well, because there's nothing greater in humiliating a defeated opponent by making them shake your

01:07:23.100 hand and smile in pictures with you.

01:07:25.000 I mean, it's just the greatest thing.

01:07:27.120 Jerry on top.

01:07:28.200 There was.

01:07:28.600 Did you guys see the New York Times followed this focus group of I think it was 13 young

01:07:33.040 voters since August and was asking them, how are you going to vote?

01:07:36.860 And they had they were all over the board.

01:07:38.460 They had someone voted for Trump last time around.

01:07:40.180 Sometimes some of over Biden.

01:07:41.860 Some hadn't voted at all.

01:07:43.580 And the vast majority of the voters voted Trump this time around.

01:07:48.120 I'm sure to the New York Times shock and to the shock of some of the young people who

01:07:52.360 were there who were in part of the group.

01:07:53.940 And listen to this woman.

01:07:55.100 Her name is Lillian.

01:07:56.020 She's 27.

01:07:57.240 She's from Virginia.

01:07:58.560 She's white in digital advertising.

01:08:00.900 She did vote for Donald Trump in 2020.

01:08:03.180 And this time around, she said, I voted for Trump.

01:08:05.320 And I made the decision the same day the mainstream media was having a meltdown after the MSG rally.

01:08:10.780 I also saw an ad from Democrats about abortion misinformation.

01:08:13.620 And that really made me upset.

01:08:15.200 I said, you know what?

01:08:16.860 I'm going to vote for Trump.

01:08:18.600 Everybody hates him.

01:08:20.520 Yeah.

01:08:21.040 Yeah.

01:08:21.300 And look, it's the most powerful tool that he has and that he has all the right

01:08:26.300 enemies.

01:08:26.800 I mean, the people that are the most despicable people in public discourse all hate him.

01:08:33.460 And when you see them so upset and rhetorically over the top, it's like, oh, man, I kind of

01:08:40.180 love that.

01:08:40.880 I love that.

01:08:41.460 And the MSG thing was such a perfect example of that, right?

01:08:45.060 They would have the American public believe that all of a sudden, if you are of Puerto Rican

01:08:50.240 descent, that a roast comedian overtakes your concerns about the border, about the economy,

01:08:57.760 all that stuff, because a roast comedian did a bit at Madison Square Garden.

01:09:03.100 Like, it's just disingenuous and ridiculous.

01:09:05.460 And if you listen to that as a voter, you're like, man, I'm not for any of that.

01:09:08.840 Well, because it's insulting your intelligence as a voter, right?

01:09:11.340 And like, you see those abortion ads that lied and you're like, wow, that's insulting

01:09:15.160 my intelligence as well.

01:09:17.220 And so then you're going back in the catalog of things that the media has told you about

01:09:20.400 Donald Trump.

01:09:20.840 And you're thinking, well, maybe those are lies, too, because if they're willing to lie

01:09:24.300 in the ads, if they're willing to lie about this rally, what else are they lying

01:09:27.600 about?

01:09:28.060 So they did it to themselves.

01:09:29.560 You don't think your passion was small businesses?

01:09:31.040 You don't think she eats no for breakfast?

01:09:36.240 Not only did Trump win despite that, but now he has Democrats questioning whether their

01:09:41.100 identity politics tactic is worth pursuing any further.

01:09:45.860 I mean, you have the Clinton in the wokes internally in a way that we haven't seen in quite some time.

01:09:51.320 It is.

01:09:51.620 It's one of the best outcomes of this election.

01:09:54.040 What's your what's your prediction on that?

01:09:56.120 Because, you know, you mentioned AOC that she took her pronouns out of her bio, which is

01:10:00.840 amazing.

01:10:02.180 Apparently, my crack team tells me two years ago, she also took her pronouns out of one

01:10:07.540 of her bios on one of the social media sites and then promptly posted this.

01:10:12.820 Oh, I'm sorry about that.

01:10:14.260 They used to be on there.

01:10:15.480 Let me go in and check and see if I can add them.

01:10:18.480 Sorry about that.

01:10:19.580 They used to be there.

01:10:20.780 I guess they fell off.

01:10:21.900 But I'll put them on right now.

01:10:23.280 They fell off.

01:10:26.400 What?

01:10:27.120 They fell off.

01:10:28.100 They fell off.

01:10:29.280 What happened?

01:10:30.980 How do your pronouns fall off of your bio?

01:10:34.960 Anyway, we don't know if it's real.

01:10:37.800 That's the issue, right?

01:10:39.060 Is that like the base of their party is that and it's less people than it is us.

01:10:43.900 And that's why they lost that election.

01:10:45.400 But they have a very strong enforcement mechanism with people like AOC on the Internet.

01:10:49.940 There is a litmus test for these people and includes putting your pronouns into everything.

01:10:54.980 And yeah, they are having a little bit of a come to Jesus moment here and starting to

01:10:58.620 think internally about what they've done on social issues or whatnot.

01:11:01.840 But that's only going to last so long as there's a vacuum in the information flow for all of

01:11:07.500 their supporters.

01:11:09.040 And with Donald Trump putting up all these nominations and a listener to Ruthless mentioned

01:11:13.660 this in a comment on today's show.

01:11:15.660 But like with all of this going on, they're going to get right back into the breach with

01:11:18.980 the craziest what it takes because they have to because they have to keep the base of their

01:11:23.540 party happy.

01:11:24.380 And I think ultimately that's going to be their undoing.

01:11:27.140 Well, let's talk about the postmortem that the Dems are going through right now because

01:11:30.600 they're blaming everything but Kamala, frankly, and I'm going to have more to say on that

01:11:36.440 soon.

01:11:37.080 But there's a big piece out now that let's see in the nation.

01:11:45.260 That Liz Cheney was an electoral fiasco for Kamala Harris, and they go through the places

01:11:50.920 where Liz Cheney appeared with Kamala and she drove up the Trump vote.

01:11:56.540 She did not help Kamala at all, which comes to the surprise of no one sitting here.

01:12:05.260 Politico did a piece talking about how, let's see, Muslim leaders in Michigan who are out

01:12:12.660 there stumping for Trump, interviewing people and talking about why the Muslim vote went Trump's

01:12:18.500 way.

01:12:19.460 This is a quote from one leader there.

01:12:21.840 What really pushed me over the edge is when Kamala Harris brought Liz Cheney to our backyard.

01:12:28.560 Liz Cheney didn't help, but can we fairly blame the loss on her?

01:12:35.780 No, I mean, she's certainly part of it.

01:12:37.640 The constituency, as we have found out for the Liz Cheneys of the world and like the Tim

01:12:41.900 Millers and the Bill Crystals and this sort of bizarre never Trump movement that is somehow

01:12:48.940 went from conservative to very liberal and then tried to pretend like it was all the

01:12:52.360 same.

01:12:52.960 Like the constituency doesn't exist.

01:12:54.540 Yep.

01:12:55.120 And you can see them when they're watching the election returns, the realization on their

01:13:00.360 face that they're literally speaking to like, oh, no, is our grift over?

01:13:03.800 Yeah.

01:13:04.360 It's like, that's in part.

01:13:07.000 But I mean, I also posit that when you're like putting white papers out about tax breaks

01:13:11.300 for, you know, black men in the last week of your campaign, like you're just not exactly

01:13:17.460 where you ought to be from a messaging standpoint.

01:13:19.660 I just never got there.

01:13:20.980 I don't think you can blame Liz Cheney for Kamala Harris losing.

01:13:24.820 What you can blame is their fascination with the never Trump movement as a constituency,

01:13:29.560 attracting the Democrats from answering the questions about the simple pocketbook stuff

01:13:34.140 that decided this election.

01:13:35.940 And they couldn't figure out how to do that.

01:13:37.700 They couldn't talk about the border.

01:13:38.580 They were talking about, you know, Liz Cheney and like the distraction is ultimately what

01:13:42.540 cost her.

01:13:43.140 Yeah.

01:13:43.580 And with any luck, we'll face Kamala Harris again in twenty twenty eight.

01:13:46.680 I mean, I don't I don't think they will learn their lesson.

01:13:50.400 And one good indicator of the way that party is headed is what they did with the state of

01:13:55.600 Iowa.

01:13:56.080 Remember, on the Democrat side, just as the same way as on the Republican side, the state

01:14:00.200 of Iowa used to be the first vote that everybody in a primary had to go through.

01:14:04.900 They removed that from their calendar so that people from California and people from the

01:14:09.820 East Coast who want to be president on the Democrat side don't have to talk to voters

01:14:14.500 and fly over country.

01:14:15.540 And as long as they don't have to check a box or learn how to talk to people from Iowa,

01:14:21.200 they are absolutely going to keep nominating lunatics.

01:14:26.120 I have maintained on this show in the past week and before there's no they can't excise

01:14:30.960 wokeism from their party.

01:14:32.160 It's too ingrained.

01:14:33.040 It has metastasized.

01:14:34.900 It's stage five.

01:14:36.560 It's I'm sorry.

01:14:37.780 The honest oncologist will tell you it's over for you.

01:14:41.580 So there's going to have to be some sort of a separation that that that branch of the

01:14:45.860 Democrat Party is going to have to become like the never Trump branch of the Republican

01:14:49.700 Party, exiled, irrelevant and a joke.

01:14:53.720 If Democrats want to win again, you just you're going to have to forge on without them.

01:14:59.060 You will not be able to convince them to stop saying their crazy shit.

01:15:04.500 I mean, I think that's the thing is they've become so insular.

01:15:08.240 I've called them.

01:15:09.100 They're a single issue, single gender party that doesn't believe in gender.

01:15:13.040 So that's not exactly how you build the winning coalition.

01:15:16.000 And I don't think they're going to moderate.

01:15:17.660 I saw a clip the other day from The Daily Show where Jon Stewart said, OK, here's what

01:15:22.720 the problem is.

01:15:23.280 And then he ran some ads that you saw in swing states where Democrats who are running were

01:15:28.840 trying to say, I do see that the border is a problem and that, you know, the economy isn't

01:15:33.580 great.

01:15:33.980 And him and his audience were shocked.

01:15:35.640 And they're like, no, they should have been running further to the left.

01:15:39.160 Yeah, that's their diagnosis from getting shellacked.

01:15:41.600 They're like, no, we didn't go far left enough.

01:15:44.660 He's as woke as they come.

01:15:46.140 I mean, I don't know if you caught this exchange.

01:15:47.620 I don't run Jon Stewart clips on this show because he's too big a prick.

01:15:52.140 And that's saying something.

01:15:53.180 I run a lot of prick sots on it.

01:15:55.340 But no, F him.

01:15:57.220 And I don't recommend you click on his videos on the Internet either because it just enures

01:16:00.640 to his benefit.

01:16:02.600 Here is a clip from CNN yesterday.

01:16:05.220 This involves a woman who I actually don't know who she is.

01:16:08.900 And also Nicole Hannah-Jones is in it.

01:16:11.640 And the valiant Scott Jennings once again trying to be the voice of reason, explaining to them

01:16:17.080 why she lost, why it's not a good thing that the military is woke.

01:16:22.740 And I believe the longer discussion was about why Peek Hegseth will be a good choice to sort

01:16:27.320 of clean some of that up within DOD.

01:16:30.280 So take a listen to this piece of the conversation.

01:16:32.960 Did you see the election results?

01:16:34.400 I did see the election results.

01:16:36.220 We just put the biggest multiracial coalition together in the history of the Republican Party.

01:16:39.120 Let me ask you a question.

01:16:39.840 When you say anti-woke, when you say woke, do you think about a certain class of people,

01:16:44.180 a certain group of people outside of yourself?

01:16:45.860 I'm just asking you that question.

01:16:47.660 It sounds like that to me because I am a black woman.

01:16:49.720 I'm speaking from my experience.

01:16:51.000 So I'm asking you from your experience.

01:16:52.840 When you hear anti-woke or woke, does that identify a group of people?

01:16:56.920 That's all I'm asking you because I'm asking you to help me understand so I know what you're

01:17:00.300 saying.

01:17:00.780 I mean, I tend to think about hyper-liberal people who have a fundamental disregard for,

01:17:06.840 you know, the underpinnings about founding of our country and who want to fundamentally

01:17:13.160 change our society in ways that are not in line with a vast majority of American citizens.

01:17:19.340 That's what I tend to think about.

01:17:20.400 I mean, Republicans have nonstop criticized Lloyd Austin and the Secretary of the Army,

01:17:29.620 both of whom are black men in the highest levels of the military.

01:17:33.400 And a lot of the arguments is that they're woke, at which, to Kerry's point, it sounds

01:17:37.460 like it sounds very much about a group of people that it's cold.

01:17:40.440 It sounds like dog whistle politics.

01:17:41.920 It sounds like you're talking about a group of black people.

01:17:43.860 So I keep going.

01:17:46.600 Just keep it up.

01:17:48.060 Good luck getting that out of your party.

01:17:50.000 The anchor, the guests, Kerry Champion is her name, former sportscaster.

01:17:55.900 But you, because they want Lloyd Austin gone, they're anti-black.

01:18:01.880 When they cite the fact that he's woke and he's pushing a woke military, that makes you

01:18:06.680 anti-black.

01:18:08.620 Just as an aside, that's the best comedy on television today.

01:18:12.760 I don't know if you've seen, every day there's a, there's seven different clips from that

01:18:17.280 show where it is an absolute circus.

01:18:20.140 And still no one's watching it, by the way.

01:18:22.300 It still has terrible ratings.

01:18:24.220 The clips are just circulated amongst people like us to make fun of.

01:18:27.640 I like to call it the CNN therapy hour.

01:18:30.300 The downside is, the downside is there may be a side effect to consuming this drug.

01:18:35.020 And that is PPE.

01:18:37.780 You don't want prolonged exposure.

01:18:40.220 That is for sure.

01:18:41.220 Wait, what's the side effect?

01:18:43.120 What did you, did you say ED?

01:18:44.360 Cause that probably comes too.

01:18:48.000 I said CTE, you know, from a, although, although.

01:18:53.040 Maybe.

01:18:54.680 You can make the case.

01:18:56.240 It's amazing that like, you see these clips and Scott Jennings is like, here's my advice.

01:18:59.820 Be normal.

01:19:00.400 And they're like, no.

01:19:04.600 Racist.

01:19:05.000 It's so bad.

01:19:08.780 It's amazing.

01:19:09.300 I got another example of it.

01:19:10.660 Now this person is not a politician and she's not a newscaster, but she's pretty famous.

01:19:15.420 And she's been in the news for bad things over the past couple of years, as far as the right

01:19:19.040 half of the country is concerned.

01:19:20.260 Her name is Rachel Ziegler.

01:19:23.500 Ziegler.

01:19:24.200 I don't know.

01:19:24.640 Ziegler.

01:19:25.660 Okay.

01:19:26.060 There's something wrong with this person.

01:19:27.760 She's also known as the star of Snow White and the Disney movie.

01:19:32.740 Remember she was out like a couple of years ago being like, there's certainly not going

01:19:37.260 to be a prince rescuing me.

01:19:38.940 I can tell you that.

01:19:39.980 And then Disney, even Disney got on its heels and they're like, we're going to reshoot the

01:19:44.340 movie immediately.

01:19:45.140 Like we're going to make some changes because there was so much backlash to her arrogance

01:19:49.640 and just inanity.

01:19:51.760 Well, she's back and she's very, very upset about the Trump win.

01:19:58.460 Okay.

01:19:59.220 Here is, this is a post she made on X.

01:20:02.320 Here's what she posted.

01:20:04.360 And by the way, she's starring right now on Broadway's Romeo and Juliet.

01:20:07.720 So don't go see that.

01:20:08.600 Uh, she writes, I find myself speechless in the midst of this, another four years of

01:20:15.100 hatred, leaning us towards a world.

01:20:17.420 I do not want to live in leaning us towards a world that will be hard to raise my daughter

01:20:22.340 in PS.

01:20:23.300 She has no daughter.

01:20:24.480 She has no children at all.

01:20:26.740 Leaning us towards a world that will force her.

01:20:29.700 Who's her, your daughter who doesn't exist.

01:20:31.400 Okay.

01:20:31.580 To have a baby.

01:20:32.580 She doesn't want.

01:20:33.460 Talk about borrowed worry.

01:20:34.900 Fellas leaning us towards a world that is fearful.

01:20:38.600 23 years old.

01:20:39.860 No kids.

01:20:40.700 I shouldn't be this shocked, but I am.

01:20:42.920 I am heartbroken for my friends who awoke with fear this morning.

01:20:47.420 And I am here with you to cry, to yell, to hug, to wax poetic on how the left continues

01:20:55.100 to fail us in forging a new path forward.

01:20:57.640 This loss should not have been, and it certainly should not have been by so many votes.

01:21:04.200 I echo Ethel Cain's statement more than anything.

01:21:08.380 May Trump supporters and Trump himself never know peace.

01:21:14.080 What the F?

01:21:16.680 How?

01:21:17.900 Then she discusses the deep, deep sickness in the country.

01:21:20.080 There's no help, no counsel in any of them.

01:21:23.220 She attacked Twitter and Elon and finished with, fuck Donald Trump.

01:21:27.940 Oh, man.

01:21:29.040 Hello, Disney.

01:21:30.260 You're going to have to redo your film again because this woman is a pig, and you fired

01:21:35.580 Gina Carano for far less than this nonsense.

01:21:40.680 That's the thing is, so Disney, I mean, this saga, like you said, goes back a very long time.

01:21:45.200 So she initially comes out, and Disney's first film that they ever won an Academy Award with

01:21:49.680 was Snow White.

01:21:50.520 It's beloved by, you know, children and parents all over the world.

01:21:53.820 And she says that that's actually a very creepy story.

01:21:57.660 A woman doesn't need to be rescued by a prince and just attacks the film that is the cornerstone

01:22:02.400 of everything Disney's built.

01:22:03.740 They have this, like, PR move where she goes on.

01:22:05.480 She's like, no, actually, I love Snow White.

01:22:07.100 It's a very nice story.

01:22:08.260 And she steps in it again.

01:22:10.080 And this comes at a time when Disney stock keeps going down.

01:22:12.860 Yeah.

01:22:13.200 And they're like, please, just do not say anything.

01:22:16.400 And yet again, they can't moderate.

01:22:18.440 It's so simple.

01:22:18.980 It's like we took all these beloved things that everybody loves, and we ruined them, and

01:22:23.700 we're shocked that we lost this election.

01:22:25.980 Yeah.

01:22:26.160 But people, you know, revolted against that.

01:22:28.500 Yeah.

01:22:28.680 No, there are a variety of responses that come to mind when you hear her post, but it is

01:22:34.420 music to my ear.

01:22:35.880 And I'm not sure which part she's playing in Broadway's Romeo and Juliet, but I feel like

01:22:41.380 that sets her up for a leadership position in the Democrat Party.

01:22:44.980 And I would like to see her on a major party.

01:22:47.880 That's awesome.

01:22:49.680 Totally.

01:22:50.240 Of course she's Juliet, of course.

01:22:52.420 And they'll have no problem with this.

01:22:54.340 Can you picture a Broadway actress who issued a post saying, F Biden supporters.

01:23:03.440 May Biden or Kamala never have a moment's peace, that person would be fired so fast it would

01:23:12.260 make your head spin.

01:23:13.380 They wouldn't last one more minute in any Hollywood role.

01:23:18.280 It's this is truly like she has to go.

01:23:22.300 I'm sorry, Disney.

01:23:23.380 She has to go right now.

01:23:25.260 Now they're dealing with the controversy with ABC, with one of their biggest stars, Michael

01:23:30.360 Strahan, who refused to put his hand over his heart for the anthem and the blowback just

01:23:35.780 for that.

01:23:36.320 He stood there with his hands in front of him, even though he's the son of a military vet.

01:23:39.520 The blowback has been enormous.

01:23:41.660 It is dominating like the Daily Mail now for a week, for four days now, whatever, since

01:23:46.700 Veterans Day for that.

01:23:48.660 And you're going to put out a Disney film with Snow White, a beloved American character with

01:23:55.240 a woman who hates more than half the country, the half that just elected Donald Trump.

01:24:01.380 This is an incredible pivot point right now.

01:24:04.200 We'll see which way the woke Disney decides to go.

01:24:07.320 Yeah, no, no question about it.

01:24:08.660 I also think it's just sort of a microcosm of this larger issue that Democrats and progressives

01:24:13.440 have had in that they literally need to implant brain damage into people.

01:24:19.120 And you see it like, I mean, look at that quote that you just read from her.

01:24:21.740 I mean, it's just completely insane.

01:24:23.300 If you're going to distract millions of people from a failed economic policy, open borders,

01:24:28.720 things that demonstrably make their lives totally worse.

01:24:31.660 The only way to do that is to give them actual brain work, right?

01:24:35.300 It's like really pollute their information flow to the point where they don't know how to

01:24:39.760 handle themselves in public.

01:24:41.100 And like, you just don't see that on the right hand side, you know, it's like you're

01:24:45.020 going to have huge disappointments, but it's like, you know, life goes on for them.

01:24:49.600 It's like, no, it's the end of eternity because I'm surrounded by this information flow that

01:24:54.760 has convinced me that literally is coming back.

01:24:58.360 And it's just, it's sad, honestly.

01:25:00.200 Right.

01:25:00.320 And it's no wonder that institutions like Disney and ABC are so out of touch with reality when

01:25:08.120 you consider the fact that they 80%, 90% of the people who work in both of those organizations

01:25:13.980 think exactly like she does.

01:25:16.480 And until they have a 50-50 split, they're not going to understand a 50-50, like half

01:25:22.600 Republican, half Democrat.

01:25:24.080 Until they have that, they're not going to understand how to talk to regular people.

01:25:27.800 Well, Ashbrook, there's a report out today about how these so-called mainstream, meaning

01:25:31.820 corporate media dinosaurs are in a full-blown panic right now, trying to find people who

01:25:38.420 actually understand Donald Trump and his voters to come and be commentators on their shows.

01:25:44.360 Like The View, then there's this whole debate about, is somebody going to get fired?

01:25:47.840 Because already, believe it or not, they have two purported conservatives on The View right

01:25:51.460 now.

01:25:51.820 I know you don't know that, but they all hate Trump.

01:25:55.020 They all hate Trump.

01:25:56.180 So it's like, well, do they bring in a seventh chair onto the already crowded table?

01:25:59.780 Or do they fire somebody, replace an app with an actual Trump supporter?

01:26:03.760 I'll be shocked if they find an actual, even Meghan McCain was never a Trump supporter.

01:26:08.040 She was just a conservative.

01:26:09.260 They haven't had an actual Trump supporter on there, I think, ever.

01:26:12.540 So that's the same network.

01:26:14.700 So they're worried about how to get a conservative, a Trump supporter on The View that's going to

01:26:18.880 put out this with this star who hates us, who's a woke Snow White.

01:26:26.040 Like they don't know what to do.

01:26:27.780 They have no conservatives in their lives.

01:26:30.640 They aren't out of the echo chamber.

01:26:32.400 They're in the same echo chamber as this Rachel Ziegler is.

01:26:35.960 And that's why they can't figure out how to fix anything.

01:26:38.720 Right.

01:26:38.880 And you don't solve the problem with window dressing.

01:26:41.140 One person sitting on the desk at The View having a conservative point of view is not going

01:26:46.860 to change the problem because they're going to get bullied to keep them cum when they get

01:26:50.580 when the cameras go off.

01:26:52.160 They need to change the culture of these places.

01:26:54.800 It has to be half Republican, half Democrat, just like the rest of our country.

01:26:58.860 And in the case of ABC, I think they should hire 50.2 percent of their staff.

01:27:04.600 There we go.

01:27:05.220 At the Republican to look exactly the way the popular vote looked last week.

01:27:08.820 I mean, I guarantee you the crew over there is already Republican.

01:27:11.320 The crews tend to be more leaning.

01:27:13.120 They're the best piece of network news.

01:27:15.480 I love all the crew guys I work with, even at NBC.

01:27:17.940 But the on-air talent and the producing staff and the administrative staff is a different

01:27:22.440 story.

01:27:23.340 So they're not going to.

01:27:24.740 And that's the problem.

01:27:25.320 It won't work.

01:27:25.900 You're right.

01:27:26.200 Because look what's happening on CNN.

01:27:27.580 We just played the clip with the great Scott Jennings, who's been a one-man band over there

01:27:33.100 trying to take down these liberal talking points.

01:27:34.780 It's entertaining for us to watch.

01:27:36.540 He's not saving CNN.

01:27:37.700 CNN's ratings are in the fucking toilet.

01:27:39.580 Sorry, they are.

01:27:40.300 So it doesn't, it's not going to save you unless you actually change the way your network

01:27:44.940 is set up until you actually get the big first sit down with Kamala Harris and you send

01:27:49.480 a real journalist in there, not you, Dana Bash, to ask actually hard questions with follow-ups

01:27:55.860 that are pressing.

01:27:56.860 It's not that hard.

01:27:58.000 It was a mere 10 years ago that you had journalists over there who would do it.

01:28:01.920 You let it slip away too fast.

01:28:03.980 All right, wait, let me take a break.

01:28:05.660 We're going to come back and we've got to discuss what happened today that is making me

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01:30:18.660 The reason for doing it and kissing goodbye, my 1.9 million followers over there, is because

01:30:28.660 I hadn't been posting for a long time.

01:30:30.640 I just didn't want to contribute content once it was purchased by its present owner.

01:30:35.760 But just having it there, I was only holding on to it because I, you know, really didn't

01:30:42.380 want someone trying to take over that name and using it for nefarious purposes.

01:30:46.860 So I was a little bit worried about that.

01:30:48.480 The name of Joy Reid on X is what she's referring to.

01:30:52.260 She's peaced out from X, guys.

01:30:54.580 And this makes me thrilled.

01:30:56.540 Goodbye.

01:30:57.160 We won't miss you.

01:30:58.600 Take care.

01:30:59.580 And she is not the only one.

01:31:02.620 I'm going to give you another video.

01:31:04.180 This one, too, is going to bring a little single tear of joy.

01:31:08.260 Watch.

01:31:09.280 I have loved connecting with all of you on Twitter and then on X for all of these years.

01:31:14.600 But it's time for me to leave the platform.

01:31:17.360 Take care.

01:31:17.660 I once believed that it was a place for honest debate and discussion, transparency, and free

01:31:22.400 speech.

01:31:23.160 But I now feel it does not serve that purpose.

01:31:25.880 Starting this Friday, November 15th, X is implementing new terms of service, which, among other things,

01:31:32.300 states that, quote, all disputes be brought exclusively in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District

01:31:38.360 of Texas or state courts located in Tarrant County, Texas.

01:31:42.320 Now, as the Washington Post recently reported on X's decision to change the terms, this, quote,

01:31:48.060 ensures that such lawsuits will be heard in courthouses that are a hub for conservatives,

01:31:53.360 which experts say could make it easier for X to shield itself from litigation and punish critics.

01:31:59.620 I think that speaks for itself.

01:32:03.160 Oh, my God.

01:32:04.800 Isn't that great?

01:32:05.360 He's out.

01:32:06.880 And she's out.

01:32:08.180 And he wants us to believe it's because of the forum selection clause in the new Twitter

01:32:13.460 tours as opposed to the fact that everyone hates him.

01:32:16.940 And she's only been there, guys, because she didn't want someone to seize her name and misuse

01:32:25.100 that.

01:32:26.120 OK, sure.

01:32:27.260 I mean, these people, this is a rash.

01:32:29.400 It's a rash of of of Twitter exits.

01:32:32.100 Jamie Lee Curtis quit.

01:32:33.680 Bette Midler deleted her account.

01:32:35.960 The Guardian, you know, the paper left X.

01:32:39.260 It's been absolutely delightful to see them run.

01:32:42.520 Well, the hilarious thing is, if you look at the metrics, there's more people who are

01:32:47.940 joining and the metrics in terms of the number of tweets, the people who are on there keep

01:32:53.180 hitting new record highs.

01:32:54.380 It's not an airport.

01:32:55.320 You don't have to announce your departure like no one cares.

01:32:58.600 People leave your lesson from like, wow, looks like we didn't know what the American

01:33:03.560 people are actually concerned about.

01:33:05.680 Are we in an information silo?

01:33:07.300 Let's all leave and create our own.

01:33:10.900 Super great takeaway.

01:33:12.520 Not knowing what people think is like, oh, no, I need my own information silo.

01:33:16.500 This has gotten way out of hand, but also like the people who might help me like Joy

01:33:22.360 Reid to her.

01:33:23.000 She was squatting on her account basically because she was afraid somebody would take

01:33:26.300 it and use it for nefarious purposes.

01:33:27.940 Just as a resident expert smug.

01:33:30.900 Is there anything that we could do with that name that would pollute the Internet?

01:33:36.260 I mean, I would absolutely.

01:33:38.280 I mean, we could start having like using her name to send out normal tweets and people like,

01:33:43.920 what's going on?

01:33:45.720 You know, hey, you can throw out like a few like a Chief Justice John Roberts.

01:33:51.000 The way to stop discriminating by race is to stop discriminating by race.

01:33:54.680 People be like, what?

01:33:55.740 So she got hacked here.

01:34:00.100 Mark Andreessen, he posted the following in response to all this.

01:34:04.520 X needs a dramatic exit button.

01:34:06.920 It's so true.

01:34:08.060 Like, to your point, I'm leaving.

01:34:10.740 I'm leaving.

01:34:11.560 Dramatic exit.

01:34:12.500 Here I go.

01:34:13.480 Everybody.

01:34:14.440 Here I go.

01:34:15.180 It's like the Irish goodbye.

01:34:16.220 When you when you announce your Irish, I'm Irish goodbying.

01:34:18.720 It's happening.

01:34:19.500 I'm leaving.

01:34:20.080 Irish goodbying.

01:34:21.100 You completely undercut your whole point.

01:34:22.960 They just want attention.

01:34:24.380 And you know what else?

01:34:25.360 They'll be back because Joy Reid can't stand to lose her one point nine million.

01:34:31.700 And Twitter is the best.

01:34:33.200 It's the best news source there is.

01:34:35.140 Right.

01:34:35.420 She checked the amount of followers she has, which tells you everything you need to know.

01:34:39.960 They're just vain people who love attention.

01:34:42.880 They love to be dramatic, just like that woman who made the Instagram post.

01:34:47.020 She's in theater.

01:34:47.920 They're in theater, too.

01:34:48.820 They'll be back because they love a crowd.

01:34:50.340 There was one that really did break our heart because it goes to the core of the game that

01:34:54.120 we play on the Ruthless Riding program, King of the Hill.

01:34:57.240 Jennifer Rubin.

01:34:58.120 Yeah.

01:34:58.580 That's going to be a real content hit for the Riding program.

01:35:01.300 Yeah.

01:35:01.500 You know, I mean, using her stuff for years and I don't know what we're going to do.

01:35:05.260 Well, I mean, that's the thing.

01:35:06.420 Ashbrook said we should name the King of the Hill trophy after her, just like, you know,

01:35:11.420 in the NFL, the Super Bowl trophy is the Vince Lombardi trophy.

01:35:14.340 It would be the Rubin.

01:35:15.240 Yeah.

01:35:15.740 I mean, that is the only downside.

01:35:17.700 Well, here's what she said, though.

01:35:18.680 She said she's going to she's going to post work on X, but she's no longer going to communicate

01:35:24.880 on X.

01:35:26.120 And now she's protected her tweets.

01:35:28.740 And this guy at Politico, Adam Wren, posted in response, you can find my statement on why

01:35:35.080 I'm leaving X and all my answers to replies about why I've left X and all replies to replies

01:35:39.960 about why I've left X, as well as all my future posts exclusively on X.

01:35:44.320 That's pretty good.

01:35:48.640 RT that now.

01:35:50.740 Jump on that.

01:35:52.780 But I'm leaving.

01:35:54.060 I'm gone.

01:35:54.820 You won't have me to kick around anymore.

01:35:57.060 Just all my content, but not me personally, except occasionally when I have something important

01:36:00.920 to say.

01:36:01.380 And then you won't even be able to reply to me unless I think it's a really good post.

01:36:04.760 And I want to open up the replies to see how many clever ones I get.

01:36:06.980 And then but other than that, I'm done.

01:36:08.700 It's over.

01:36:09.220 I'm off X.

01:36:10.700 How about The Guardian?

01:36:13.240 Like, this is a news source, and it tweets out,

01:36:16.020 the U.S. presidential election campaign served only to underline what we've considered for

01:36:20.420 a long time, that X is a toxic media platform, and that its owner, Elon Musk, has been able

01:36:25.900 to use its influence to shape political discourse.

01:36:29.160 This is supposed to be a news outlet that can't take news it finds upsetting.

01:36:34.140 Right.

01:36:34.880 It's the exact opposite.

01:36:36.380 Yeah.

01:36:36.660 It's supposed to be a news outlet.

01:36:38.040 It's the shaping is what they're concerned about.

01:36:41.000 And the fact that they can't do it anymore because you've got people on X where free

01:36:44.780 speech is actually back again.

01:36:46.700 And the thing that they loved about Twitter, its predecessor, was that they would shape

01:36:51.040 it.

01:36:51.340 Right.

01:36:51.560 And you just wouldn't see any opinions that they disagree with.

01:36:54.200 And just compared to 2020, where then ownership of Twitter and the regime that they had in

01:36:59.200 place would ban and block people who posted about Hunter Biden's laptop.

01:37:03.540 Nope.

01:37:04.260 Nope.

01:37:04.460 This is disinformation.

01:37:05.400 I got banned for a week for zooming in on a picture that Hunter Biden's from his laptop

01:37:10.300 of him on a bed with hookers.

01:37:12.220 And there was some like stuffed animal on the bed.

01:37:14.060 And I just zoomed in and tweeted the picture of the stuffed animal.

01:37:17.140 And I got banned for a week.

01:37:19.200 Pervert.

01:37:19.940 Where it used to be.

01:37:21.140 And they're not these for a news organization.

01:37:23.400 They're not comfortable in an environment where people can freely discuss ideas.

01:37:26.860 That says the problem right there.

01:37:28.340 One thing that's kind of funny over the last couple of years, there have been these left

01:37:32.400 wing alternatives to X that have stood up and somebody went through them over the last

01:37:38.300 week and they said, you'll notice every single post is complaining about X.

01:37:44.400 Oh, no way.

01:37:46.180 I mean, I do believe it.

01:37:48.560 That's you know, I look at this.

01:37:49.640 And I think these people wouldn't last one day living the way right leaning people live

01:37:56.600 in this country where everything around you is controlled by the other side.

01:38:01.920 The messages are uniformly against your worldview.

01:38:05.420 The messages your kids get at school, the ads you see while riding the bus, the advertisements

01:38:13.340 for the new movies on Netflix, the papers that arrive at your house, the cable news anchors,

01:38:19.140 the debate hosts, the sports arenas, everything is against you.

01:38:23.480 They wouldn't last one day living in our shoes.

01:38:27.120 A hundred percent right.

01:38:28.060 Yeah.

01:38:28.240 I mean, they're like, well, we control Hollywood.

01:38:30.580 We control every single media publication in this country.

01:38:34.040 We have control of the government.

01:38:35.420 Merrick Garland will kick in doors if you disagree with us.

01:38:39.300 Why is Twitter the one place we can have to live in a lot of care?

01:38:43.340 I'm out.

01:38:44.680 I'm out.

01:38:45.300 And now they go there over it like Jack Dorsey, who used to run Twitter, has started his own

01:38:49.840 new thing.

01:38:50.480 And good luck getting any conservatives to go over there because we're all still over on

01:38:54.520 X, which is the greatest news feed in the world.

01:38:57.020 That's why all these liberals will remain.

01:38:59.400 It's only these far left lunatics who are leaving.

01:39:01.720 Although Don Lemon has principled reasons.

01:39:03.460 He really doesn't like the form selection clause and doesn't want to go down to Western

01:39:06.160 Texas.

01:39:06.880 Sure, Don.

01:39:07.400 Sure.

01:39:08.560 So it's going to be yet another echo chamber.

01:39:11.100 There's absolutely no need for this.

01:39:12.280 Mark Zuckerberg already created threads, which doesn't appear to be doing very well.

01:39:15.520 And this one won't either.

01:39:17.940 The reason most people use it is because they get their news there.

01:39:20.340 And it's a great place to do that.

01:39:22.640 Guys, it's a pleasure.

01:39:24.940 It was just as great seeing you as I knew it would be.

01:39:27.840 It's so fun.

01:39:28.820 Thank you for having us.

01:39:29.540 Thank you so much.

01:39:31.460 Till the next time.

01:39:32.500 Don't forget to check out the fellas on their YouTube feed.

01:39:35.900 Well worth your time.

01:39:38.880 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

01:39:40.800 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:39:52.640 Thank you.

The Megyn Kelly Show - November 14, 2024

Trump Pick Gaetz Throws DC Establishment Into Turmoil, Tulsi's DNI Perch, and Don and Joy Quit X, with Ruthless ｜ Ep. 944

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