The Megyn Kelly Show - Trump's Instant Action on Illegal Immigration, CNN Cuts, and Obama Divorce Rumblings, with Ruthless Podcast Hosts ｜ Ep. 990

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00:00:59.880 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:03.000 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:01:12.860 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:01:14.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:15.940 There's so much to go over.

00:01:17.480 It's so fun.

00:01:18.480 I was saying to my friend today, the news cycle right now is like you wake up every morning and you find out, I got a raise.

00:01:27.000 And then the next morning you're like, I got another raise.

00:01:29.600 It has that feeling like, yet another thing I really wanted that's going to improve my life and the life of my fellow countrymen has happened.

00:01:39.920 And not just one thing, but a whole swath of things.

00:01:43.220 The goodness just keeps on coming in droves.

00:01:45.640 It's totally delightful.

00:01:48.180 And for once, covering the news is uplifting.

00:01:52.460 I always think covering the news is pretty fun.

00:01:54.860 I mean, almost always.

00:01:56.240 But it's not always like uplifting.

00:01:58.500 But it's totally uplifting right now.

00:02:01.220 Let's ride it.

00:02:02.200 We deserve it.

00:02:03.480 A new day in America, everyone, as President Trump takes swift action during week one back in the White House.

00:02:10.200 And to coincide with all this good news, CNN is basically imploding.

00:02:16.100 I mean, its implosion is becoming more official by the day.

00:02:20.220 I mean, I'm sorry to see people get laid off and it's happening by the hundreds over there today.

00:02:25.300 But I'm not sorry to see potentially chief Trump antagonist Jim Acosta lose his job.

00:02:31.460 I'm not sorry.

00:02:32.460 He deserves it.

00:02:33.800 He had promise as like a tough but fair reporter back in the day.

00:02:38.840 And he completely sold his soul to be TDS example number one.

00:02:45.080 I mean, is there anybody who's got worse Trump derangement syndrome?

00:02:47.960 I mean, he's got ties.

00:02:49.340 Rick Wilson, Lincoln Project, you know, Jennifer Rubin.

00:02:52.300 But like, I don't know if he's got somebody worse, like masquerading as a straight news reporter in the mainstream media.

00:02:59.720 Olbermann, obviously, he's terrible, but he's not masquerading as objective.

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00:03:25.640 Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook, and the man known to his minions as Comfortably Smug.

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00:04:19.840 Guys, welcome back.

00:04:21.260 Oh, Megan, so good to be back.

00:04:23.200 It's just a good day.

00:04:24.540 Golden era here in America.

00:04:26.020 Golden age.

00:04:27.220 Do you agree with my feeling of, like, you open up X in the morning and you're like, ah, come on, it's wonderful.

00:04:35.160 Totally.

00:04:35.720 It's like Christmas presents each and every day.

00:04:37.780 And his first full day.

00:04:39.320 I mean, what a jarring culture change just in D.C. and the way the government works, right?

00:04:44.160 I mean, we heard eight good words out of Joe Biden for six months.

00:04:48.040 You never saw the guy.

00:04:48.840 If you did, he was kind of, like, shuffling or stammering around.

00:04:51.660 They were hiding him from press.

00:04:53.120 First full day Trump's there.

00:04:54.460 He does not one, but two totally free, unwielding press conferences where he's asked and answered literally every question anybody could come up with.

00:05:04.280 It was incredible.

00:05:05.600 It's like the vigor is back in the White House.

00:05:08.160 Not only did Joe Biden do the shuffle and the falling upstairs, downstairs, across a beach, but, like, then soars and J.D. Vance and Trump.

00:05:18.620 Like, it's just vigor.

00:05:20.660 Vigor has returned.

00:05:21.580 I don't know how Trump does it.

00:05:22.560 He's 78 years old.

00:05:23.740 But you can tell this is, like, he truly could run all of us under the table with his energy level.

00:05:29.280 I truly don't understand it.

00:05:30.760 He's superhuman in this way.

00:05:32.600 This is not fangirl, sycophant cult member talk.

00:05:36.580 It's an objective fact.

00:05:37.980 There's something very odd about how this man is able to withstand enormous amounts of pressure and enormous amounts of time commitments and energy zaps without falling apart.

00:05:49.820 Yeah, it's not just energy, Megan.

00:05:53.840 I mean, he has all of these impromptu flourishes of showmanship.

00:05:58.340 Did you see how he handled the signing of these executive orders?

00:06:02.640 He pulled his staff secretary into the frame and had him describe, hey, just tell us a little bit about what I'm signing here. 0.61

00:06:10.300 Oh, yeah, that sounds great.

00:06:11.420 That sounds great.

00:06:12.060 Okay, what's this one?

00:06:13.260 Oh, this is a beautiful one.

00:06:14.560 People have been asking about this one for years.

00:06:16.420 The live commentary.

00:06:17.660 It's beautiful.

00:06:18.020 It was incredible.

00:06:19.080 And the press is like, oh, this is not how it's supposed to work.

00:06:22.720 The staff secretary is supposed to be seen but not heard.

00:06:25.400 We should be the ones talking, not Trump. 1.00

00:06:27.260 And it's like, no, idiots. 1.00

00:06:29.360 Trump is here and he is different. 1.00

00:06:31.500 He's exactly what people want.

00:06:33.020 And today they beamed him into Davos so he could give that great speech.

00:06:37.760 And then he just opens the floor to Q&A.

00:06:39.860 That's the wildest part, right?

00:06:43.120 You're doing it.

00:06:43.660 It's one thing to do the American press corps, but you're like three days into a new administration.

00:06:47.760 You're like, you know what?

00:06:48.740 Let's take the world's biggest economic leaders.

00:06:51.520 What you got?

00:06:53.860 What's on your mind?

00:06:55.080 No, it's amazing.

00:06:55.940 It's like I wonder as a member of the media, like whether they're starting to feel like, you know what?

00:07:02.220 This could be a lot of fun. 0.51

00:07:04.120 Maybe I don't have to hate this fake Hitler. 0.91

00:07:07.140 Maybe I could really enjoy covering this guy for the entertaining person he is, who clearly loves the country and has an agenda that now has wide swaths of report.

00:07:20.860 I was just looking at the real clear politics average for Trump right now.

00:07:24.260 His approval rating currently is at 53.

00:07:27.400 53, you guys, this is, you know, three, four days into all these executive orders crushing DEI, crushing the gender madness, you know, crushing the green energy excesses there.

00:07:41.260 He's at 53.

00:07:42.260 I think, you know, you pointed out on X this morning, there was even an article in Politico where they said it's time to admit Trump is a great president.

00:07:51.700 There has been a significant shift.

00:07:54.420 I think a lot of the smarter people in the media have picked up on when someone wins a landslide victory and the popular vote.

00:08:02.260 Clearly, the people have spoken.

00:08:04.660 And if you're a journalist, there's there's nothing left to try to grift your way into a book deal saying that this is Hitler or anything.

00:08:10.980 The people have spoken loud and clear.

00:08:12.680 And you look at the guy.

00:08:14.760 He's having the time of his life is because I think part of it is he's reflecting the energy right back at people.

00:08:20.520 When I was struck when we were done recording our episode yesterday, I'm driving past the White House and I just smiled and it struck me.

00:08:29.740 It's been a while since I was excited about where our country is going, the people we have in charge.

00:08:35.520 Good days are ahead.

00:08:37.020 That kind of optimism had been completely crushed on the American people for four years.

00:08:41.440 The American people are ready to be happy.

00:08:43.380 I'm like running over to my kitchen table in the morning to see what's in The New York Times, what's in The Washington Post or what's in The Wall Street Journal, what's in The New York.

00:08:52.300 I can't wait to see and just getting on X and seeing.

00:08:55.300 And we'll go through for the audience what Trump did yesterday and all the greatest executive orders that are still coming and what he's doing.

00:09:01.560 But let's just start with that political piece, because my jaw dropped smug.

00:09:05.580 I'm like, what is what is this from Politico?

00:09:10.000 Like, I thought it might be a spectator piece.

00:09:12.720 You know, when I first saw the language grab from it.

00:09:16.020 No, Politico's John F. Harris with a post this morning.

00:09:20.140 He is the founding editor and global editor in chief of Politico.

00:09:24.740 This is not some low ranking, you know, occasional columnist.

00:09:29.880 This he kind of is Politico founding editor, global editor in chief.

00:09:33.960 And this is what he says.

00:09:36.420 The headline is time to admit it.

00:09:38.300 Trump is a great president.

00:09:40.200 He's still trying to be a good one.

00:09:42.720 And then he goes on to say as follows.

00:09:44.960 All right.

00:09:45.900 The second occasion of Trump taking the oath of office put him in an entirely new light.

00:09:51.440 For the first time, he is holding power under circumstances in which reasonable people cannot deny a basic fact.

00:09:58.020 He is the greatest American figure of his era.

00:10:02.320 Let's quickly exhale.

00:10:04.560 Great in this context is not about a subjective debate over whether he is a singularly righteous leader or a singularly menacing one.

00:10:11.620 It is now simply an objective description about the dimensions of his record.

00:10:15.220 He began a decade ago by dominating the Republican Party.

00:10:17.980 He soon advanced to dominating every discussion of American politics broadly.

00:10:22.040 Now, his astonishing comeback after his defeat by Biden in 2020 and the notoriety of the January 6th riot makes clear there are certain things he is not.

00:10:30.700 And one big thing he is.

00:10:32.520 He is not a fluke.

00:10:34.640 He is not someone the American public somehow misunderstands.

00:10:40.240 He is someone with an ability to perceive opportunities that most politicians do not and forge powerful, sustained connections with large swaths of people in ways that no contemporary can match.

00:10:53.740 In other words, he is a force of history.

00:10:57.560 There's more which we'll get to, but let's just stop there.

00:11:00.420 What does it mean to you guys to see this kind of a piece in Politico?

00:11:06.340 Well, John is one of the few and rare journalists, kind of the old school, who observationally understand, right?

00:11:16.100 And they don't deny reality, right?

00:11:18.400 The sky is blue.

00:11:19.620 And I think if you talk to the people who covered Trump for a long time, they kind of all come to a similar conclusion, which is this guy won a popular vote.

00:11:28.420 Everybody knows who he is.

00:11:30.060 I mean, there's not a single American wandering around who doesn't have an opinion on Donald Trump one way or another.

00:11:35.480 And the majority of this country wants him, right?

00:11:38.120 So the fluke is gone.

00:11:39.240 And that did burden him, I think, for the first four years.

00:11:41.620 We're on a very different path.

00:11:43.000 And the thing that I find so interesting about this one is his lack of fear and his lack of hesitation to pursue exactly what it is that he said he would do.

00:11:53.360 There's no nuance.

00:11:55.020 There's no sort of sanding the edges to try to make things a little bit more politically nice for some edges of the electorate.

00:12:02.860 He's just doing his stuff, and he's doing what he said he was going to do.

00:12:05.800 And, like, there's a confidence that exudes from that.

00:12:09.900 And, you know, with all of those executive orders, and we can talk about them specifically, but they all just basically are what the American people wanted to have happen.

00:12:18.920 Yes.

00:12:19.520 And so, you know, if you're a journalist, what's not to understand about it?

00:12:24.480 Right.

00:12:25.040 No, I think the headline is a triumph, and I think it is because Trump earned that.

00:12:30.680 I mean, if you think about all of the ups and downs of the last 10 years, nobody in some, like, back room decided that they were going to engineer Trump into that job.

00:12:41.280 No, everybody was against him the entire time, and he kept coming back, and he kept fighting, and now he's got the press basically crying uncle on the front page.

00:12:51.380 I think it's a triumph.

00:12:53.020 Yeah, I think the media definitely wanted to think he was a fluke, right?

00:12:56.600 Oh, for sure.

00:12:57.720 You know, I feel like a unique moment in time.

00:12:59.600 Hillary was so weak. 0.84

00:13:01.280 Yeah.

00:13:01.980 Yeah, and that's how they covered him.

00:13:03.620 But it's undeniable now, not just his comeback to the White House, but the way in which it happened, and Ashbrook alluded to it.

00:13:10.560 I mean, this guy was indicted in three jurisdictions over 40 times.

00:13:13.720 He was, you know, two assassination attempts, one that put a bullet through his ear, and he overcomes all of that to be returned to the White House.

00:13:21.380 It's really a testimony to that old adage that the only way to lose is to quit trying.

00:13:26.520 Yeah.

00:13:26.700 You know, I mean, he really is.

00:13:28.620 I mean, if you think about it that way, and in the context of everybody's lives, I mean, this guy had every reason in the world to walk away.

00:13:35.540 And every excuse.

00:13:36.580 Yeah.

00:13:36.960 You know, living a great life, very successful, playing golf every day.

00:13:40.320 Yeah, what's that?

00:13:40.900 The desire to continue living?

00:13:44.000 You know?

00:13:44.760 Yeah.

00:13:45.280 I mean, you give me that option to play 18 at Mar-a-Lago every day.

00:13:49.620 I'm not sure.

00:13:50.100 I'm walking back into 1600.

00:13:51.780 Or the place in Scotland.

00:13:52.740 No, I know.

00:13:53.860 I mean, it's becoming very clear that the great comeback tour is far more beneficial to Trump and the country than a straight eight would have been for him.

00:14:04.880 Because he was able to flush old staff that was not working well for him.

00:14:09.580 And bring in new blood and come in with, as Don Jr. said in this show, when he was predicting what would happen if his dad won.

00:14:16.580 And, yes, people who are loyal, it's important to Trump, but also people who are competent.

00:14:22.820 And he said, the first time around, we kind of just went for competence.

00:14:25.700 And we forgot about the loyalty piece.

00:14:27.320 And that's how you got deep state actors whose mission did not align with Trump's.

00:14:31.340 You know, Rex Tillerson being one of them.

00:14:33.780 You know, obviously there were others like Mattis, Milley, John Kelly.

00:14:38.840 They had their own agenda and their own thoughts on how it ought to be handled.

00:14:42.340 And nobody elected them to do anything.

00:14:44.740 You know, they elected Trump.

00:14:45.940 So now he's got it.

00:14:47.480 And everybody, it's like, I'm reading today about how we're sending all these troops to the southern border.

00:14:52.020 And it's going to require a fair amount of cooperation between the military, ultimately Hegseth, and DHS, ultimately Kristi Noem.

00:14:59.440 Those two will work together because they are totally on board with enacting Trump's agenda.

00:15:04.380 There won't be turf wars.

00:15:05.760 There won't be, you know, getting your back up because somebody wants more than you're willing to give.

00:15:09.760 Everyone will be there in service of the mission, which is Trump's mission, which is our mission, the people who put him in office.

00:15:15.940 There's no question about it.

00:15:17.800 Yeah, I think you're 100% right, is that that was the missing component.

00:15:21.620 And also for the American people.

00:15:23.540 Even when Trump came to power just now, there was a bit of kind of like lowered expectations because you're like, I remember the first time there were all these people stabbing in the back.

00:15:33.940 There were all these lawsuits.

00:15:35.220 Everything got bogged down.

00:15:36.620 You had issues with like the House and the Senate garbling up his agenda, slowing it down.

00:15:42.540 You have none of that this time.

00:15:43.880 And the difference is loyalty.

00:15:45.600 Everyone's on the same page.

00:15:47.480 They learned so much from that first administration, how the media would treat them, how people that were brought in just because, oh, well, he's got the right resume.

00:15:55.180 Not necessarily that they are 100% loyal to Trump and his agenda, which the American people resoundingly support.

00:16:01.580 So there's no need to lower expectations now.

00:16:04.000 We've seen in the first 48 hours breakneck speed.

00:16:07.300 He's delivering exactly what the American people wanted.

00:16:09.980 Yeah.

00:16:10.080 And there's no better.

00:16:10.940 And what he said he would do.

00:16:12.660 Exactly.

00:16:13.320 Yeah.

00:16:13.580 No better demonstration of competence with the fast start.

00:16:16.960 I mean, those executive orders didn't just magically print and perfectly embossed fonts right off of the printer on day one.

00:16:25.240 I mean, there were a lot of people who nobody will ever know their names who worked so hard to put that stuff together and thought about, oh, this is how the deep state is going to react against us.

00:16:35.420 How are we going to structure this so that we can have the most success possible?

00:16:39.740 You're never going to know their names.

00:16:41.400 And withstand the legal challenges, Ashbrook.

00:16:43.420 It's a great point because also clearly the person who wrote, well, it's a bunch of people, but the people who wrote these executive orders foresaw the legal challenges that were coming and wrote the appropriate defensive language right into the EOs.

00:16:58.180 I heard the guys at Commentary talking about this.

00:17:00.200 I noticed it too.

00:17:01.240 In the DEI order, you know, like no more DEI.

00:17:03.780 We're done.

00:17:04.140 If you're taking federal dollars, whether you're a university or you're a subcontractor of the government, if you're pursuing a DEI agenda, you're out.

00:17:12.060 We're not you're not getting our money anymore.

00:17:13.880 And they had an exception on the universities for pointing out that to criticize the policy is totally fair game.

00:17:20.580 Go for it.

00:17:21.220 Like we're not trying to curb free speech on a college campus about the government, its policies, its anti-wokeness.

00:17:27.600 You can do that all you want.

00:17:28.820 But you push DEI agendas.

00:17:31.640 That's a different story.

00:17:32.680 We don't have to give our money to you.

00:17:34.020 It's been done very, very cleverly, again, by people who learned from just not only those first four years, but then watching what the Democrats would do when they had power.

00:17:44.860 Yeah.

00:17:45.500 I mean, look, there's something to be said about having a frame of reference and knowing what you would do differently.

00:17:50.960 And I think you said it really well that this is a much better outcome in many ways than a straight eight because you can't like reset midterm, right, if he's elected to a second term.

00:18:00.700 This way, I mean, not only did you get the separation of four years with people like Stephen Miller who spent the last four years thinking about how you would do all of these things a lot more constructively.

00:18:11.980 It also extends to Trump himself.

00:18:13.700 Look, the stuff that he was talking about on the campaign trail, he didn't overpromise.

00:18:16.740 He talked about a whole bunch of things that he knew he could do with the power of the executive order because he was there before.

00:18:22.220 So when he talks about shutting down the border or ending DEI or all the various things that he's done over the last 48 hours, he knew he alone in his administration, if competently executed, could do it.

00:18:33.840 Yeah.

00:18:33.980 I think the way I described it on our episode on Ruthless today was 2017 was like a pop quiz.

00:18:39.600 Yeah.

00:18:40.020 You know, where you're putting together the airplane while you're taking off.

00:18:44.280 But this is more like a take home test.

00:18:46.780 We know what to expect from the other side.

00:18:48.840 We know what the deep state's going to try to do to stop Donald Trump.

00:18:51.480 All those executive orders written in a way to be legally just and their strategy is just so much better.

00:18:59.140 And it's just it's just proof.

00:19:00.520 And you sort of said it at the top, Megan.

00:19:02.560 But like personnel is policy.

00:19:04.800 If you want to accomplish all these things, you have to recruit well for the positions that are open.

00:19:08.840 Yeah.

00:19:09.340 Which is why he's doing all these mass firings, which is wonderful, too.

00:19:12.600 Everybody's hard to file civil servants, but he's putting well on paid leave.

00:19:15.660 Get out.

00:19:16.300 Get out.

00:19:17.600 We pulled that Davos side that you guys just mentioned.

00:19:20.460 Here's some of that.

00:19:21.260 Trump zooming in.

00:19:22.320 My administration has taken action to abolish all discriminatory diversity, equity and inclusion nonsense.

00:19:31.880 And these are policies that were absolute nonsense throughout the government and the private sector.

00:19:38.080 With the recent yet somewhat unexpected great Supreme Court decision just made, America will once again become a merit-based country.

00:19:48.300 You have to hear that word, merit-based country.

00:19:53.160 And I've made it official, an official policy of the United States, that there are only two genders, male and female. 0.95

00:20:03.000 And we will have no men participating in women's sports and transgender operations, which became the rage, will occur very rarely.

00:20:13.400 Totally.

00:20:15.000 It's amazing.

00:20:16.880 It's amazing.

00:20:18.200 It's perfect because he deeply understands it, right?

00:20:21.260 I mean, it's one thing if you're some politician who's told this is very popular amongst the American people and you're just trying to figure, you know, okay, I got to check this box because I said I would.

00:20:30.220 No, the way he explains it, he deeply understands it.

00:20:32.560 It is not only divisive, it's racist.

00:20:35.340 Right?

00:20:36.300 It's illegal.

00:20:37.020 It's illegal.

00:20:38.100 It's illegal.

00:20:38.680 Right, right.

00:20:39.860 I also just love-

00:20:40.720 We decided to forget that.

00:20:42.260 Go ahead, go ahead, Duncan.

00:20:43.080 He doesn't have to couch it in some philosophical term or some, you know, beautiful poetry or language.

00:20:50.860 He just speaks in the plain terms that Americans understand.

00:20:55.000 Nonsense. 0.54

00:20:56.140 This is nonsense.

00:20:57.720 I mean, it's like-

00:20:58.240 He's not quite as plain spoken as Javier Millay of Argentina who got up there and really went for it.

00:21:04.700 It's in Spanish, so he didn't cut it.

00:21:07.240 But man, he's always worth clicking on if you see a clip from that guy.

00:21:10.460 He does not hold back.

00:21:12.140 All right, let me get back to this Politico article because it's just we have to spend some time on Politico admitting all of this stuff.

00:21:19.040 He goes on to say, okay, his opponents cannot push Trump to the margins.

00:21:24.900 His opponents have no choice but to acknowledge he and his movement represent a large historical argument

00:21:30.420 and then rally similarly large arguments to defeat it.

00:21:34.700 He says the following, okay.

00:21:38.320 Trump has already demonstrated some familiar signatures of the most consequential presidents.

00:21:43.760 Like influential predecessors, his arguments have shifted the terms of the debate in ways that echo within both parties.

00:21:50.600 In this case, on issues such as trade, China, and the role of big corporations.

00:21:54.240 Like other large presidents, Trump has been a communications innovator and exploited technological shifts more effectively than his rivals.

00:22:02.680 In that sense, his use of social media recalls FDR's mastery of radio, JFK's and Ronald Reagan's mastery of television.

00:22:09.800 One more signature shown by the most consequential presidents, uncommon psychological toughness.

00:22:15.360 Have you ever known someone who is facing legal hurdles?

00:22:19.100 In many cases, even if people ultimately win the case, they end up being consumed and shrunken by the searing nature of the experience.

00:22:26.780 So true, by the way.

00:22:27.960 Imagine running for president amid huge civil suits, criminal prosecutions, and even felony convictions,

00:22:34.680 and then emerging from this morass as a larger figure than before.

00:22:40.380 No one needs to admire the achievement to recognize that Trump is possessed by some rare traits of denial, combativeness, and resilience.

00:22:50.480 And here we go down to the end where he's now quoting a historian, a liberal historian.

00:22:57.360 Quote,

00:22:57.540 Great presidents are unifiers, mostly in retrospect.

00:23:02.800 Most great presidents, he later wrote, this liberal scholar, divided the nation before reuniting it on a new level of national understanding.

00:23:13.000 And back to the political commentary.

00:23:14.980 This is the same sentiment uttered by FDR, quoting FDR.

00:23:18.320 All our great presidents were leaders of thought at a time when certain ideas in the life of our nation had to be clarified.

00:23:28.920 God, that totally encapsulates Trump, his rise, his movement, his popularity, his gut instincts, and why they resonated so strongly,

00:23:40.300 especially on the heels of four years of Biden-Harris with this huge piece of the American electorate.

00:23:46.420 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, it's really well said, really well put together.

00:23:50.780 I think, you know, there's one sort of lasting lesson that I think, you know, anybody who's interested in running for president anytime in the future should learn a lot from Donald Trump,

00:24:00.620 is that in order to be a leader, you actually need to do all of those things, right?

00:24:04.320 It's not enough to just sort of check boxes on a poll of who is, you know, what issues are above 50, and I'm for that.

00:24:10.400 You actually need to move people.

00:24:12.560 You need to create atmosphere in the American democracy where people identify with it and want to get on board with it.

00:24:19.820 There's no way to make substantial change whatsoever unless you build a movement that moves a block of voters who you think are here to here.

00:24:28.860 Because then the lesson is for people who are in, you know, an opposition category is, well, you got to wrap your mind around that too.

00:24:36.380 And that's how change is made in this country.

00:24:39.560 It's intentionally very difficult.

00:24:41.480 But Donald Trump has really led a movement to take a look at China, to take a look at DEI.

00:24:48.560 I mean, look, we're four years removed from people being terrified to even say the letters DEI in a negative connotation for fear that they would be canceled.

00:24:57.940 And now you got a president of the United States signing an executive order banning it, saying this is racist.

00:25:02.620 Well, it's been racist all along, but it's everybody was afraid to talk about it until he did.

00:25:08.040 I think the thing that's really interesting there on, like, DEI or, like, critical race theory or transgender ideology and all of these things, I think the idea that these were, you know, a divisive debate we were having in the country is entirely a manufacturing, you know, by academia and the media itself.

00:25:29.260 I mean, I think Trump is uniting all Americans on these issues.

00:25:32.200 I think we were united all along.

00:25:33.780 Yes.

00:25:33.900 I think the only people-

00:25:35.160 But afraid to talk.

00:25:35.680 Right.

00:25:35.960 The only people who are ginning it up were the media who are like, well, on this side and on this side, and we're going to, you know, and it's like, no, like, you know, I think we actually talk enough about the racial trauma in America in our history books and in school and stuff.

00:25:49.600 We don't have to be, you know, having critical race theory, academic philosophy for legal scholars applied to kindergartners across this country.

00:25:58.240 Right.

00:25:58.720 No, I mean, it's well said.

00:26:01.140 The folks are not getting it.

00:26:03.600 I mean, CNN and Politico admits this, right?

00:26:06.740 Like, he's a great leader.

00:26:08.240 He's a great president.

00:26:09.400 We're going to have to deal with that.

00:26:11.140 CNN, reportedly the boss there, who is the former, a former New York Times guy, reportedly said to the staffers at some all hands on deck meeting, please try not to prejudge Trump. 0.83

00:26:22.360 Like, let's just not do knee jerk trashing of Donald Trump.

00:26:27.320 He would like his job to continue, which requires viewers, which is why he said that.

00:26:32.500 Then Tom Bevin of Real Clear Politics tweets out the following with the headline, CNN has not learned a thing.

00:26:39.500 This is their homepage.

00:26:40.340 I'll just read you a couple of the headlines.

00:26:43.440 Trump sends shockwaves through the government and around the world in a flurry of activity happening almost too swiftly to follow.

00:26:50.400 Trump is giving critics every reason to think their worst fears will be realized.

00:26:55.160 Okay, then there's fact check.

00:26:58.000 Trump litters Oval Office interview with false claims.

00:27:02.700 The gloves are off.

00:27:04.020 Trump appears poised to cash in from his presidency in new ways.

00:27:08.980 Okay, let's see.

00:27:11.720 Going over here, moving over.

00:27:13.580 Hegseth's ex-wife gives new statement to FBI amid scrutiny over his nomination.

00:27:19.060 Musk bashes Trump's AI project, undermining a $500 billion investment.

00:27:24.140 Kara Swisher has a theory on why Musk seemed to undermine Trump.

00:27:28.040 No, Trump did not become an overnight crypto billionaire.

00:27:31.540 The latest on the Trump presidency and then whatever.

00:27:35.460 So I don't feel like CNN has gotten the message.

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00:29:31.760 So guys, Jim Acosta reportedly losing his key spot in the CNN lineup.

00:29:41.020 I actually have no idea where his spot is, to be perfectly honest.

00:29:43.460 But they are trying to move him to midnight, which they reportedly sold to him by saying,

00:29:50.080 it's prime time on the West Coast.

00:29:53.120 Now there are reports that he's getting ready to quit because he is too big to take this kind of demotion.

00:30:01.880 And the reason he is too big is because of moments like this where he showed true grit and integrity at CNN

00:30:09.880 when Republican lawmakers from Tennessee had the nerve to come on his show.

00:30:15.580 And exchanges like this that happened last night took place.

00:30:20.640 Do you defend what Donald Trump did, releasing these people from prison, pardoning them, commuting their sentences?

00:30:29.000 Yes or no?

00:30:29.820 Congressman, I asked you a yes or no question.

00:30:32.120 If they were truly violent, no.

00:30:33.920 But do I know that they were?

00:30:35.560 I don't know that.

00:30:36.420 What happened to back the blue?

00:30:37.760 Jim, why don't you just give an editorial and not let me come on?

00:30:41.340 What happens if one of the gatekeepers of the Proud Boys goes out there and hurts somebody?

00:30:46.180 I would say if they're Trump-appointed judges, they will go to jail.

00:30:48.940 But if they're Joe Biden-appointed judges or Soros-backed DAs, they'll probably walk.

00:30:54.080 We saw during the Black Lives Matters marches.

00:30:56.360 We saw on the riots all across the country.

00:30:58.480 Those people walked.

00:30:59.680 Nobody went to jail for that.

00:31:01.280 Millions upon millions of dollars of property was damaged.

00:31:04.520 You all didn't raise a finger, didn't say one word about it.

00:31:07.640 Congressman, that's just not true.

00:31:09.320 That was covered on CNN.

00:31:10.960 What you're saying, this is not Fox, Congressman.

00:31:13.900 You can't just spin a tail and pull the wool over people's eyes.

00:31:17.140 This is CNN.

00:31:18.380 This is the news.

00:31:19.900 We're asking him to come on and tell the truth.

00:31:22.420 And that's why more people are watching the Cartoon Network Spongebob reruns right now, Jim.

00:31:26.840 You just can't stand the fact that he won and that America spoke.

00:31:30.480 Oh, my God.

00:31:31.740 How great is he?

00:31:32.920 Okay, so Congressman Birchett of Tennessee.

00:31:37.820 This is CNN.

00:31:40.180 This is the news.

00:31:41.420 You can't just pull the wool over people's eyes, sir.

00:31:44.840 Yeah.

00:31:45.920 Thanks, Anchorman.

00:31:47.100 We've heard the Democrat talking points before.

00:31:49.260 We don't need you anymore.

00:31:50.340 Yeah, they definitely covered those riots.

00:31:51.820 Remember the Chiron, mostly peaceful? 0.64

00:31:53.760 Yeah.

00:31:54.360 Police was on fire behind the guy.

00:31:56.840 This is, of course, on the heels of the Clarissa Ward report where they, you know, they used some guy who was apparently connected with Bashar al-Assad and pretended that he was in some prison.

00:32:09.960 That's how it looks.

00:32:10.620 That's how it looks for months, and he came out, you know, clean fingernails, clean clothing, and did this whole, like, uh-huh, only to have it revealed that he was connected with the very people he claimed were imprisoning him and then wouldn't respond to CNN's calls when it came out that he had given a false name.

00:32:29.340 And we have no idea what CNN sold us.

00:32:31.600 They haven't done a mea culpa.

00:32:32.980 But this is CNN.

00:32:34.060 This is the truth.

00:32:34.760 You can't just pull the wool over somebody's eyes here, sir.

00:32:37.740 God, it just, you know, I don't think I'd be truly happy until Acosta is, like, selling cubic zirconiums on QVC.

00:32:46.680 No, no, no, no.

00:32:48.000 I want him on CNN.

00:32:49.260 I want him to have to go through that humiliation every single night because I think, I mean, I think complaining about your time slot on CNN is like complaining about which circle of hell you got sent to.

00:33:01.260 I mean, he shouldn't be completely glum.

00:33:03.780 He's got a shot of being number one in the demo in Hawaii.

00:33:06.200 Look, do you see what this is?

00:33:08.760 Some woman gave this to him and he kept it and he talked about it on the air the other day.

00:33:12.940 I march for Jim Acosta and the free press.

00:33:16.980 He kept it and he showed it.

00:33:19.660 This is from the women's march, I think, in 2016, 2017.

00:33:23.660 Look at him.

00:33:24.520 He showed it on the air so that we could all celebrate him.

00:33:27.260 I'll tell you what, Megan, I'd like to know the chain of custody on that because I believe that he made that at his house.

00:33:33.640 It's true.

00:33:36.100 But, you know, but even if he didn't, you know, maybe it's a good rule of thumb for journos when somebody is wearing a pee hat and it's got your name that they're celebrating.

00:33:44.920 That's probably not fair.

00:33:47.120 That's probably not where you need to.

00:33:49.120 I have more to do on the press when we get to what they're doing to Pete Hegseth in a minute.

00:33:52.600 But I want to start more with what Trump is doing today because it's just such good stuff and we got to get to it.

00:33:57.380 So the executive orders and the crackdown on the border is really where we're going to start.

00:34:02.860 I'm just going to read you a couple.

00:34:03.800 All right.

00:34:04.060 First, the Lake and Riley Act passed.

00:34:10.340 It passed the House and then it went to the Senate.

00:34:12.020 They made some modifications and went back to the House last night and it passed.

00:34:14.760 And it passed with a lot of Democratic support.

00:34:17.040 Of course, there were some 46 or something Democratic lawmakers who wouldn't sign it. 0.98

00:34:20.860 So the Democrats are still crazy. 0.94

00:34:23.520 There's some portion that's still crazy. 0.84

00:34:25.020 But they passed the Lake and Riley Act, which really says, like, you must you must detain an illegal who commits shoplifting or something you consider a lesser crime, never mind the more serious crimes.

00:34:39.220 You may not just return them out into into the into society requires ICE to arrest illegals who commit an offense of theft, burglary, larceny, shoplifting or, of course, something more serious. 0.67

00:34:53.400 And mandates that these aliens are detained until they're removed from the United States so they cannot reoffend. 0.87

00:35:00.880 Then on top of that, because keep in mind what happened with Lake and Riley was this criminal in New York City committed a couple of crimes here, including, I think, shoplifting was one of them, and then got released by New York City, which is a sanctuary city in a sanctuary state.

00:35:13.780 And then he went down to Georgia and killed Lake and Riley.

00:35:17.040 And if we had just done our job in New York State, well, I'm in Connecticut now, but I'm from New York, this guy would have been behind bars or deported, as he should be now under Trump.

00:35:27.820 So they're trying to crack down on this.

00:35:30.120 And then there's a second piece of the Lake and Riley Act that reads as follows.

00:35:33.920 It enables state attorneys general to file lawsuits against the Homeland Security secretary if the government fails to enforce immigration laws.

00:35:42.700 This is Trump saying, I won't be president forever, and I am empowering Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis and all border state governors to sue the derelict federal government if the next guy refuses to enforce the laws.

00:36:02.980 Oh, thank God.

00:36:05.040 And that's exactly what we were talking about is he's had folks around him like Stephen Miller, who had four years to get ready for this moment, who saw the kind of nonsense that the bureaucracy does to keep Americans unsafe.

00:36:20.380 And so now they're hitting the ground running ready for stuff like this.

00:36:24.420 Also, it's important to note this is a very American tradition, putting in checks and balances to ensure that America is a safe country of laws.

00:36:33.640 It's a wonderful day for all Americans.

00:36:36.500 Yeah.

00:36:36.980 Yeah.

00:36:37.200 And hats off to Katie Britt and others who are the champion of that bill for the last couple of months. 0.64

00:36:41.740 I can't believe there was opposition to it. 0.85

00:36:43.660 I mean, it just shows you how crazy people are.

00:36:46.540 And you've got overwhelming Democrat support for this policy of deporting, never mind of punishing the criminals who are here and making sure they don't hurt more Americans, but of deporting all illegals, all of them. 0.97

00:36:58.980 But before I get to Harry Anton over on CNN talking about that, let me show you AOC's reaction to the Lake and Riley Act.

00:37:06.000 If a person is so much as accused of a crime, if someone wants to point a finger and accuse someone of shoplifting, they will be rounded up and put into a private detention camp and signed and sent out for deportation without a day in court.

00:37:24.980 Without a moment to assert their right and without a moment to assert the privilege of innocent until proven guilty.

00:37:31.520 That is what is inside this bill, a fundamental suspension of a core American value.

00:37:40.260 Okay.

00:37:41.240 She's very worried about the due process rights of illegals accused of murder.

00:37:46.720 That's the thing is, so the thing is, the Bill of Rights applies to citizens.

00:37:53.060 I think you learned that, what, third grade?

00:37:54.620 Is that third grade?

00:37:55.440 This is underpants gnome logic.

00:37:59.180 You know what I mean?

00:38:00.340 Like, imagine sitting there and being like, well, if you're even a Q, you may not have even done something wrong. 0.99

00:38:06.800 Except for the fact that you're illegally here in the first place.

00:38:09.360 That's the crime, right?

00:38:10.500 I don't care if you, I mean, shoplifted, sure.

00:38:12.880 Now we know who you are. 0.99

00:38:13.860 Get the hell out of here.

00:38:14.940 That was the whole point of everything.

00:38:16.740 The crime, the underlying crime, is that you're here illegally.

00:38:21.520 Right.

00:38:22.460 Well, unfortunately, Smug, the Constitution does apply to people who are in the country, whether they're legal or they're illegal. 0.78

00:38:28.380 But the point is what Josh just says, which is, if you're here and you get arrested, and I don't care what you get arrested for, we find out you're an illegal, you're out. 0.99

00:38:37.580 I don't really give a shit. 0.95

00:38:38.620 It's not about your due process laws on the crime you've been arrested for. 0.99

00:38:42.260 It's about your underlying crime of sneaking into the country unlawfully.

00:38:45.760 Get out.

00:38:46.680 That's what we're worried about.

00:38:48.280 It's not like whether you're going to get all your Bill of Rights once you actually get to trial.

00:38:51.820 It's you're illegal and you got caught, and right now we're bending over backwards to accommodate you so that you don't have to leave, so that you can let your legal rights play out.

00:38:58.840 Get out.

00:38:59.580 We already established you're an illegal.

00:39:01.120 Go. 0.85

00:39:01.720 You're Venezuela's problem now. 0.97

00:39:03.180 But here's –

00:39:03.900 Okay, there's more.

00:39:04.620 There's more.

00:39:05.340 Well, and not for nothing, but as far as due process goes, everyone who's come to this country over the past four years with some BS asylum claim has a court date in like seven years.

00:39:15.620 In like seven years.

00:39:16.620 Yeah, and they don't – and we never find them.

00:39:18.420 If they don't show up, we don't look.

00:39:20.680 All right, here's another one.

00:39:21.700 On top of that, which is an actual law, those are the ones we like the best, right?

00:39:25.880 They can't be undone by executive order by the next president.

00:39:29.820 DOJ released a memo directing federal prosecutors – now I'm getting into the more executive actions.

00:39:35.240 DOJ released a memo directing federal prosecutors to investigate and potentially prosecute state and local officials who do not cooperate with immigration orders.

00:39:42.820 So once again, this is a crackdown on sanctuary cities that you could get prosecuted if you are a state or local official who's not complying with an ICE detainer.

00:39:54.240 You know, there's an ICE detainer on some bad hombre who gets arrested for shoplifting, let's say, in New York City, and he's sitting behind a bar.

00:40:01.580 And there's a detainer, which means New York officials are supposed to call ICE and say, hey, we've got this guy you're looking for, and they don't.

00:40:07.820 Instead, they defy that, and they let the guy free, and he goes down to Georgia and murders a 22-year-old nursing student. 0.97

00:40:15.100 So this is saying, you local officials who do that, you're going to get your asses prosecuted. 0.77

00:40:20.520 It's not just about the act which mandates it with Lake and Riley. 0.95

00:40:23.760 We're going to come after you criminally.

00:40:27.600 Yep.

00:40:27.980 And this is very necessary because there's a lot of already very troubling things that are happening.

00:40:32.900 The other day it was reported that the Denver Public School System, taxpayer-funded, is sending out emails advising illegal aliens and their families how to avoid ICE.

00:40:42.820 That's taxpayer funding that's going towards breaking the law.

00:40:45.500 So things like this are incredibly necessary when you see across this country that institutions that we ourselves are paying for as taxpayers are trying to help individuals break the law, which can lead to things like innocent people getting murdered.

00:40:59.040 So it's wonderful seeing how focused the Trump administration is on making sure that is dealt with.

00:41:04.980 Bad news for old newscom.

00:41:06.660 Yeah.

00:41:07.240 All right.

00:41:07.460 Let me give you a couple more on the border.

00:41:10.420 The Pentagon announced it will begin deploying as many as 1,500 active-duty troops to help secure the southern border in the coming days.

00:41:17.800 They will join the roughly 2,500 U.S. National Guard and Reserve forces already there.

00:41:21.760 That makes 4,000 troops along the southern border.

00:41:24.480 Reports out today it could go as high as 10,000 to make sure that they're not sending the military down there in a law enforcement capacity.

00:41:31.780 You're not allowed to use the military like that.

00:41:33.580 They're not going to be shooting illegals.

00:41:35.080 They're just standing there, and they're happy to put the illegals in the truck and drive them back across the border. 0.94

00:41:41.260 That they can do.

00:41:42.180 They can't arrest them.

00:41:43.020 That's the job of CPB.

00:41:45.500 But this is an amazing show of force, which is having incredible effects already.

00:41:50.600 I'll give you the numbers in one sec.

00:41:52.280 10,000 flights were canceled for so-called refugees who were slated to travel to the United States.

00:41:58.780 Up here in the Northeast, we've been getting a ton of these flights in Westchester in the middle of the night.

00:42:03.460 Canceled.

00:42:04.080 Go back home.

00:42:05.820 Biden's been bringing them in by the plane load to various communities throughout the United States.

00:42:11.220 Trump canceled all the flights, at least 10,000 so far.

00:42:14.880 Bye.

00:42:15.360 Sorry, you're somebody else's problem.

00:42:17.220 Texas reinstalled massive floating, the massive floating buoy barrier along the Rio Grande.

00:42:23.280 Remember, there was that huge barrier down there, and Biden went down there and sued him to take it down because they said it was dangerous for the illegals who were trying to swim across the Rio Grande.

00:42:34.960 He lost in court.

00:42:36.060 Ultimately, the Fifth Circuit ruled for Greg Abbott, but they hadn't yet reinstalled it.

00:42:40.700 And now it's going to be fully reinstalled.

00:42:43.540 And Abbott plans to extend the barrier further.

00:42:48.760 In Florida, there is new Coast Guard protection in response to Trump's executive orders.

00:42:54.340 The Coast Guard is announcing it will immediately surge boats, cutters, aircraft, specialized forces to the southern border around Florida to prevent mass illegal migration from Haiti and Cuba.

00:43:03.120 This is just so beautiful.

00:43:04.180 Number six, the Department of Homeland Security, in a memo, permits ICE to raid so-called sensitive areas.

00:43:12.980 Trump's DHS issued this memo immediately rescinding Biden's 2021 through Mayorkas policy, which limited ICE from enforcing our immigration laws if they found an illegal near a, quote, sensitive area like a school, a church or a health care facility.

00:43:30.000 And Team Trump is saying, go for it.

00:43:34.000 Go ahead and do it.

00:43:35.960 Those are the most important areas to secure from dangerous illegals. 1.00

00:43:40.220 Why would we give them a free pass so they intentionally go live near a school or a church or one of these health care facilities?

00:43:48.160 So that's been revoked.

00:43:50.420 And this is this is like just a couple a little bit of color because there's so much here.

00:43:55.040 I'm drinking from the fire hose just to just to look into the effect this is happening, having as ICE goes to arrest a Haitian criminal illegal migrant.

00:44:08.160 And Fox's Bill Malusian was there.

00:44:10.500 And this guy found his English for a second.

00:44:12.940 Take a listen.

00:44:13.460 I'm not going back to Haiti. 0.90

00:44:16.460 One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti. 1.00

00:44:19.920 ICE says he's a gang member with 17 criminal convictions in recent years.

00:44:25.220 You feel me?

00:44:26.720 Yo, Biden forever, bro.

00:44:28.380 Thank Obama for everything that he did for me, bro.

00:44:31.940 There it is.

00:44:32.560 Oh, there we are.

00:44:34.100 What more is there to say?

00:44:36.040 Oh, yeah.

00:44:37.700 No, it turns out maybe they're not sending their best.

00:44:40.300 And it's right there.

00:44:42.900 Everyone understood.

00:44:43.940 We we've been saying for a while when when there was a Democrat primary happening in 2020 and they asked during a debate, will you provide, you know, free health care, housing for illegal immigrants?

00:44:55.680 Raise your hand if you did.

00:44:56.720 If you do.

00:44:57.260 And every single one of those people did.

00:44:59.280 The message was heard loud and clear around the world.

00:45:02.180 Get across the border.

00:45:03.120 Break the law.

00:45:03.960 It's free stuff all the way.

00:45:06.000 Those days have come to an end.

00:45:07.840 So many Democrats are saying, no, no, that's not the message.

00:45:11.420 Look, we had Kamala say do not come.

00:45:13.160 That means that we were serious about this.

00:45:15.420 The second important thing to point out is you hear all these nonsense rules that were put in place by Mayorkas of, oh, there's these sensitive areas. 0.71

00:45:24.080 You can't enforce the law here.

00:45:25.920 Oh, you have to take down these barriers and let them come in.

00:45:29.540 This was willful.

00:45:31.020 This invasion was willful.

00:45:32.900 This was part of the plan that they had in place.

00:45:35.780 There needs to be lawsuits against Mayorkas. 1.00

00:45:37.540 He didn't get a pardon.

00:45:39.100 He didn't get a pardon.

00:45:40.060 This didn't just happen.

00:45:41.360 His watch.

00:45:41.960 He enabled and encouraged this to happen.

00:45:44.880 There needs to be accountability.

00:45:47.180 Yeah.

00:45:47.680 And there won't be.

00:45:48.820 There won't be.

00:45:49.720 And by the way, it's sad because Trump's going to do his level best to get as many of these folks out as he can.

00:45:54.980 And I know the administration is very happy.

00:45:56.680 And I'm thrilled to see that some 300 to 500 now illegals have already been captured by Homan. 1.00

00:46:03.240 But we have maybe 20 million.

00:46:06.340 I mean, it's just not it's not doable.

00:46:08.960 It's that they're going to remain here.

00:46:10.940 If we can get out a million or two, it will be miraculous.

00:46:14.680 But we are not going to get the vast majority of those illegals who Biden-Harris allowed to enter this country out.

00:46:22.280 Yeah.

00:46:23.020 Well, you know, I keep coming back.

00:46:24.660 I mean, remember at the beginning of the Biden administration when Biden appointed the intellectual heft of Kamala Harris to identify the root causes of illegal immigration?

00:46:34.880 And, like, you know, you never got any answer.

00:46:36.440 She didn't even go to the border for, like, three years.

00:46:38.960 And then you think about it.

00:46:40.340 And it's like what you said about the flow and all.

00:46:43.800 This gets easier once people know you can't come and you don't get stuck.

00:46:48.500 I'll tell you what.

00:46:49.780 If you're going to look for a root cause, it's when you put a green light at the border and you tell people you're going to fly them to up to the northeast and resettle them.

00:47:00.420 That's it.

00:47:00.980 The green light to the cartels, by the way, to traffic humans all the way up from Central America in order to do it.

00:47:07.000 And they make a ton of money doing it with drugs, with human trafficking, all kinds of different things.

00:47:11.580 By putting these things in place, remain in Mexico, solidifying the border, all this other stuff that he's doing, I think we're going to find out that people are like, well, maybe we can't go there anymore.

00:47:21.600 And also beyond that, I know for a long time it's been a punchline and rightfully so, the whole self-deportation idea.

00:47:27.460 But when you take away things like birthright citizenship, there's no longer a reason to stay here.

00:47:35.000 You got to go.

00:47:36.320 There's nothing left.

00:47:37.400 If you show up here hoping to just have a child and that's a U.S. citizen and then they can get you a green card and you can play that game that's been going for way too long.

00:47:45.060 You take that away and all of a sudden there is no point here because eventually the IT is looking for you.

00:47:50.420 Listen to this, guys.

00:47:53.880 Border Patrol now, these are the numbers.

00:47:57.440 I think this is from Fox's Allie Bradley reporting this.

00:48:00.820 Okay.

00:48:01.200 The data was obtained through a DHS source.

00:48:04.780 Okay.

00:48:07.180 On January 17th through 19th, right before Trump was inaugurated, the encounters between migrants and Border Patrol were at 4,000.

00:48:16.860 And then OFO, which is a different, that's basically the people running the CPB1 app appointments, it was about 5,000.

00:48:27.760 So about 9,000 encounters with, you know, attempted migrants entering the country a day from 117 to 119.

00:48:35.980 Trump gets sworn in on 120 and 121.

00:48:39.100 So this is this past Monday and Tuesday.

00:48:41.380 It fell to 1,900, call it 2,000, and 930, call it 1,000.

00:48:46.500 So that's down to 3,000, right?

00:48:49.620 So we go from basically 9,000 to 3,000 overnight and then 1,22 as of approximately 8 p.m., which was Wednesday.

00:49:00.520 Today, it's down to 440 with Border Patrol and 45 with the OFO, down to 500.

00:49:10.020 We went from 9,000 encounters with migrants at the border on 117 through 119 to 500 yesterday.

00:49:20.380 I mean, it's as good a proof as you can get that the deterrence works.

00:49:26.100 Another thing that they did, Megan, is they shut off that CBP1 app that CBS was so happy about during the J.D. Vance debate.

00:49:33.940 That stuff works.

00:49:35.480 And it actually is having a material impact right away.

00:49:38.560 A federal government app to tell you how you can get here illegally.

00:49:42.060 So here are your rights.

00:49:43.700 Right there, the data shows a drop of 95 percent, right there.

00:49:47.620 The initial reaction from the media, I remember on Monday, you had 50 journos taking video of, oh, this is a migrant who's trying to get in and they're crying now.

00:49:57.760 Oh, isn't that horrible?

00:49:58.840 They're crying.

00:49:59.760 Every one of those journalists got played because Monday was also Martin Luther King Day.

00:50:04.660 And the DHS is closed.

00:50:07.120 There are no appointments that can be made on Martin Luther King Day.

00:50:10.160 But if you're a migrant crying, your word is golden. 1.00

00:50:13.420 The Constitution of the United States, how immigration works, oh, that's necessary.

00:50:16.980 We have someone crying and telling journos a lie.

00:50:19.200 Megan, you liked it that Smuggs did the math on all that.

00:50:22.820 Yeah, he did that quickly.

00:50:24.180 It was well done.

00:50:25.500 I'm glad somebody else did it.

00:50:26.680 It's just like you gave me the number.

00:50:29.240 We have more.

00:50:30.140 I want to show you what Trump said about this on Hannity last night.

00:50:33.180 And I'll get to that Harry Enton report showing what the American people want.

00:50:36.900 In fact, I'll just play that now.

00:50:37.980 Play SOT 4 and then we'll go to break.

00:50:41.160 That's what I really think you see.

00:50:42.980 You see real uniformity. 0.99

00:50:44.240 Deport all immigrants who are here illegally. 1.00

00:50:46.200 55% of the New York Times. 0.96

00:50:47.640 Marquette, 64%.

00:50:48.880 CBS News, 57%.

00:50:50.520 ABC News with a slightly different question, 56%.

00:50:53.360 So what you're seeing essentially here is a very clear indication that a majority of Americans

00:50:59.660 do in fact want to deport all immigrants who are here illegally.

00:51:03.300 There's no arguing with these different numbers because they're all essentially the same

00:51:07.020 across four different pollsters.

00:51:08.460 That's the truth.

00:51:11.560 And the media is going to have to accept that fact because it's the people's will.

00:51:17.320 And that will is going to be done.

00:51:18.660 You guys, Ruthless stay with us.

00:51:19.820 They'll be right back.

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00:52:29.420 Just to correct my numbers on the Lake and Riley Act, it was 33 Democratic senators who voted

00:52:39.180 no, 156 House members, Democrats, voted no.

00:52:45.680 It was 46 Dems who voted yes.

00:52:49.280 So that's where I got the 40s number from.

00:52:51.280 Anyway, so you got 46 Democrats who were sensible and are listening to their constituents, and you

00:52:56.140 had 156 House Dems saying they're not on board with the Lake and Riley Act, which doesn't

00:53:03.520 really help them with the populace, as you heard in that Harry Enten report.

00:53:07.220 All the polls, all of them, across all networks, across all pollsters are showing in the mid-50s

00:53:13.420 to 60 range with Democrats who are in favor of throwing all illegals out, all, not just the

00:53:21.640 criminals.

00:53:23.620 I can't even imagine the justification for it.

00:53:27.840 I mean, you just read what the thing does.

00:53:29.960 I mean, the good news is congratulations to CLF and the NRCC.

00:53:34.100 Your ad is ready to go for the midterm for 156 House.

00:53:38.000 Seriously, you could get pretty deep blue in some of those districts with that kind of

00:53:42.100 take.

00:53:42.440 I just don't understand.

00:53:43.280 You've got AOC, like with the sob story, like, no, they're going to deprive them of their

00:53:47.500 due process rights, these poor illegals who are committed, who are accused of committing

00:53:51.760 crime, and just look like 180 on the other side.

00:53:54.680 So that's, she's over here, 180 on the other side.

00:53:57.640 Here's Trump talking to Hannity last night in SOT 6.

00:54:01.540 I think it's six.

00:54:02.300 Why would anybody that even likes, you don't have to love our country, you have to like it.

00:54:07.160 Why would anybody that likes our country, the Democrats, allow that to happen?

00:54:11.940 And even now, I watch them on television, they're trying to justify it.

00:54:16.940 You can't justify it.

00:54:18.240 The only reason it can be is two reasons. 1.00

00:54:21.180 You're stupid, and I don't think they're stupid. 1.00

00:54:24.300 I think anybody that cheats that much and that well is not stupid. 1.00

00:54:28.680 You're either stupid or you hate the country. 1.00

00:54:31.200 I won't get into it, but you can look at them and you can say, could be trouble. 1.00

00:54:36.920 Could be trouble.

00:54:38.160 There are people coming in.

00:54:39.300 There are people with gang tattoos on.

00:54:40.880 There are people coming in with tattoos all over their face.

00:54:44.660 Their entire face is covered with tattoos.

00:54:47.560 Typically, you know he's not going to be the head of the local bank.

00:54:56.500 Post Malone, very concerned.

00:55:00.620 Like you said, it's just sense.

00:55:03.120 It's back to the political argument.

00:55:04.620 He has a way of communicating with regular people that they all get on an instinctive level.

00:55:12.480 There's no combating that.

00:55:14.640 No AOC, high-soaring rhetoric is able to combat that.

00:55:19.600 Yeah.

00:55:20.300 Yeah.

00:55:20.520 Well, and not only is he plain spoken about it, but I think he gains power by the outrage.

00:55:27.540 So after that clip aired, there was a whole bunch, you know, take to X, the journos and everybody saying he can tell by somebody's a criminal by looking at them. 0.94

00:55:36.640 He's racist.

00:55:37.780 You know, this, that and the other thing. 0.98

00:55:38.880 But like that only builds power with Trump.

00:55:43.400 And I think increasingly what we saw through his political prosecutions and all of these things, every time somebody just sort of winds up against Trump and tries to explain how he's a racist, a degenerate, a criminal, all these things, more and more of America is like, no, I heard what he said.

00:56:00.340 It's like that Voltaire quote where he said, I asked God for but one wish that my enemies be absurd.

00:56:05.020 And he granted it.

00:56:05.640 And Trump has been given that in spate.

00:56:07.640 The more that they try to sound crazy and say, just because someone's covered in gang tattoos and breaks the law entering the country doesn't mean they're a criminal.

00:56:14.940 Actually, that's exactly what it means.

00:56:16.320 And when you're wearing a flag that says, I'm a member of a gang, you're probably a member of a gang.

00:56:22.540 Exactly.

00:56:23.480 And when that tattoo is on your face, times 10.

00:56:27.360 Yeah.

00:56:28.320 Very aggressive.

00:56:29.140 No secret there.

00:56:30.160 Yeah, that was actually another line of the political article that the FDR said, I'd ask one thing, but to be judged by the enemies that I have made, judge me by my enemies.

00:56:38.900 And I think Trump feels the same.

00:56:40.780 He's thrilled to have AOC out there saying things like that about him.

00:56:44.500 OK, so moving on, there's a lot there's a lot of other stuff we've got to cover, including what they're doing to Pete Hegseth.

00:56:49.700 So Pete Hegseth is, I think, still on his way to being confirmed.

00:56:54.520 We've been watching McConnell, Murkowski, Collins and Ernst for Republican senators who should vote for him, but have reportedly been on the fence.

00:57:05.580 Ernst, those first three have not said how they're going to vote.

00:57:09.720 Ernst has said she will vote to support Pete, and she did vote him out of committee.

00:57:13.740 So we're still question marking those three, but we don't really care because if that's the only three he loses, then it's a tie in the Senate, which J.D. Vance would cast the deciding vote on and Pete would get in.

00:57:26.520 But as the Senate slow rolls the final vote, the Democrats are saying, we need more information, we need more time, blah, blah, blah on Pete.

00:57:34.580 You get an 11th hour submission now from when I make sure I have it right.

00:57:41.600 Pete has a brother.

00:57:44.780 He has a couple of brothers.

00:57:45.860 This is the lesser known brother and the brothers, not the brother's wife, but the brother's ex-wife.

00:57:52.560 Pete, who is a far left Democrat, I've talked to people who know her, who never liked Pete, comes forward to say he was some sort of an abuser of Pete's second wife, who's not her sister.

00:58:08.160 They both married into the family.

00:58:09.760 So this woman is married to the one brother of Pete, and Samantha Hegseth was Pete's second wife.

00:58:14.060 And this woman says he's an abuser.

00:58:17.240 And I know that because my some eight years married to the brother mostly overlaps Pete's marriage to Samantha.

00:58:24.180 And Samantha had it was to the point where Samantha had a code word where she would text it to me if she thought she was in trouble, like inside the house.

00:58:33.940 And in fact, she did text me the code word one time.

00:58:37.000 And so Pete and that signifies that she was afraid of Pete.

00:58:40.260 Well, OK, like, let's hear the rest of the story.

00:58:45.780 What happened next?

00:58:47.060 Did you call the police?

00:58:48.160 Did the police visit Pete's house?

00:58:50.500 Did they arrest Pete?

00:58:51.840 Was there a domestic violence complaint officially made?

00:58:54.680 And most importantly, what does Samantha Hegseth say?

00:58:58.440 Because we don't know you, weird ex-sister-in-law, who's a far left progressive Democrat trying to stop Pete. 1.00

00:59:05.380 But the ex-wife, Samantha, certainly does know Pete.

00:59:08.900 So what does she say?

00:59:10.940 She denies it.

00:59:13.180 She denied it to the FBI.

00:59:15.620 Now, she said he never physically abused me, which left me as a lawyer saying, is she leaving the door open to emotional abuse?

00:59:22.960 Now, that comes with all sorts of question marks because, you know, a couple divorcing, they're going to fight.

00:59:28.380 They're going to have a lot of arguments.

00:59:29.560 He cheated on her.

00:59:30.860 I'm sure they had some very volatile arguments when that was revealed.

00:59:33.880 He impregnated Jen, who became his third wife.

00:59:36.740 And, you know, who he wound up with.

00:59:38.480 So I'm sure there were some very brutal rhetorical fights.

00:59:42.200 But that's not necessarily abuse.

00:59:44.780 And so I don't know what the truth is there.

00:59:47.720 So then I went digging further and saw the divorce papers and the order issued by the judge in the divorce proceeding,

00:59:55.500 which makes really clear what actually happened there.

00:59:59.420 And that judge said nobody is alleging abuse.

01:00:04.040 And there's been absolutely nothing that tells me that there was abuse of any kind.

01:00:08.960 Any he says there's no probable cause whatsoever to see to conclude that there was abuse in this marriage one way or the other.

01:00:17.020 I'm trying to find the exact language.

01:00:18.180 I can't find it in front of me right now.

01:00:19.300 So what do we get?

01:00:22.220 We get the media running with the headlines.

01:00:27.760 Pete's accused of abuse.

01:00:29.560 Pete's an abuser.

01:00:30.980 He's accused of abuse. 0.77

01:00:32.480 And in some publications, they don't even print that the actual ex-wife says that's not true.

01:00:40.140 And in places like The New York Times, they stick that in the 18th paragraph of their story.

01:00:49.300 I mean, because they want to do the damage to him without actually getting into it.

01:00:53.020 Okay, here, hold on.

01:00:54.000 Without actually telling the truth.

01:00:56.680 Here's The New York Times.

01:00:59.940 The main article on Tuesday, the headline was,

01:01:02.980 Hegseth, ex-sister-in-law, tells senators he was abusive to second wife. 0.89

01:01:07.680 The sub-headline,

01:01:08.560 A woman once married to the brother of Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary nominee,

01:01:12.820 submitted a sworn statement to the Senate in a late hour complication to his confirmation.

01:01:16.700 His lawyer denied her account.

01:01:19.060 His lawyer?

01:01:20.080 His lawyer denied it?

01:01:21.980 How about mentioning that the alleged abuse victim denied it in your sub-headline, New York Times?

01:01:28.500 And then you've got the CBS Evening News in a report from Nicole Killian,

01:01:36.740 who's got exactly the right last name, because that's what she's been trying to do to Pete Hegseth,

01:01:40.480 made no mention, no mention of Samantha Hegseth's disavowals of the allegations in this ex-sister-in-law's affidavit.

01:01:52.740 So CBS News didn't even want to tell its audience that the ex-wife, the alleged abuse victim,

01:01:58.740 has denied it on the record.

01:02:02.020 And by the way, back to what the Minnesota Family Court judge said in the divorce proceeding,

01:02:07.920 he said,

01:02:08.460 Now, I think the alleged hiding in the closet, using the safe word, texting the sister-in-law that you feel unsafe,

01:02:35.620 would qualify as feeling that you'd been threatened with physical abuse.

01:02:40.520 But this judge found that did not happen.

01:02:44.440 And when asked recently by the FBI whether she was abused,

01:02:48.100 Samantha Hegseth said,

01:02:49.680 No, no physical abuse.

01:02:51.780 So this is where we are, guys.

01:02:54.340 I mean, you tell me whether this is, you know, the Hail Mary pass by Jack Reed and others.

01:03:00.840 Megan, I will tell you my first reaction to this is that the legacy media learned absolutely nothing

01:03:06.620 about what they saw over the last year that's happened to their industry.

01:03:10.940 People are running away from them in droves because they're tired of being misled by basic articles.

01:03:16.960 They open up a newspaper because they want information,

01:03:19.540 not because they want somebody's editorial opinion fashioned as a news story.

01:03:24.580 Well, it's immoral.

01:03:25.860 It is.

01:03:26.240 It's intentionally deceitful.

01:03:28.600 They know the facts.

01:03:29.660 It's in the story.

01:03:30.720 So they know the material facts about the alleged victim of the abuse denying

01:03:34.400 the claim that's made by, you know, brother's ex-wife.

01:03:39.680 I mean, it's just, it's absurd on its way.

01:03:41.220 It's Kavanaugh all over again.

01:03:41.800 Seems important.

01:03:42.440 That's right.

01:03:43.360 And I think Holmes is exactly right.

01:03:45.100 This is the playbook that the left and especially Senate Democrats go to again and again and again.

01:03:50.140 They did it to Clarence Thomas.

01:03:51.340 They did it to Kavanaugh.

01:03:52.860 They had some sketchy lawyers show up and say, oh, uh, I think that there was a gang

01:03:58.140 rape that this guy was taking part in and the media ran with it like it was gospel.

01:04:02.660 And we find out that lawyer goes to jail because they're crooked.

01:04:06.320 I mean, look, I'm hesitant to give Democrats advice on this because what they're doing and

01:04:10.860 what the media does is the best whip operation a Republican leader could ever have.

01:04:15.600 Right.

01:04:16.120 I mean, there are more.

01:04:17.900 Look, Pete's going to get confirmed.

01:04:19.500 I don't know if there's going to be, you know, those last three senators that vote for

01:04:23.040 him or vote against him, but I think he's got 50 in the bank.

01:04:25.640 He's going to get confirmed.

01:04:27.220 Had Democrats run a real confirmation hearing, keeping this nonsense out of the public discussion

01:04:34.840 about the job of secretary of defense, about his view of our status of forces agreements

01:04:41.840 about, you know, what are we to do with Ukraine and American military and Taiwan and American

01:04:47.720 you can get into a scenario where Pete would have a bipartisan concern if you asked the

01:04:54.140 right questions and he was unable to answer it.

01:04:56.840 This is not it.

01:04:58.180 I mean, if those three didn't vote for him, I can promise you it's not because of a story

01:05:02.140 like that.

01:05:02.860 You know, it's so like by going back to that.

01:05:06.260 Well, time and time again, all they've done is make Republicans react to everything that

01:05:13.320 comes out like this in a way that you circle the wagons.

01:05:16.100 Yep.

01:05:16.520 You know, no more questions.

01:05:17.520 I don't need to hear any more.

01:05:18.500 I know what you're trying to do to him.

01:05:19.680 You did it to Brett Kavanaugh.

01:05:21.220 Right.

01:05:22.600 Exactly right.

01:05:23.200 So they're but they're, you know, they're obsessed.

01:05:26.060 And these reporters, like I mentioned, this woman, Nicole Killian at CBS, who has been

01:05:31.200 so unfair to him from the get go with the alleged rape allegation, which now just gets short

01:05:38.760 formed by all of these media outlets to accused by rape and signed a settlement, accused of

01:05:44.820 rape, denied.

01:05:46.420 They mentioned he denied it.

01:05:47.620 They don't talk about any of the holes in this woman's case.

01:05:49.940 The fact that the police chose not to pursue it after doing a full investigation, the fact

01:05:55.280 that she claimed she was given a date rape drug, but was seen on camera and by three

01:05:59.820 independent witnesses and her husband on the back end within a period of two and a half

01:06:04.180 hours, totally fine, sober and not drugged.

01:06:06.500 That's not how the date rape drug works. 1.00

01:06:08.200 People, none of that gets mentioned.

01:06:10.120 It's just think about it as a man, you get accused by this woman in what appears to be

01:06:13.860 an obvious lie, an obvious made up claim of rape.

01:06:17.060 And then every publication, as you get the nomination of your lifetime, just short forms

01:06:21.780 it to accused of rape and paid a settlement, accused of rape.

01:06:24.440 It was accused of rape.

01:06:25.760 It's so unfair.

01:06:27.200 So anyway, this Nicole Killian has been doing this to him from the beginning.

01:06:30.160 I'll just give you an example of this woman's reporting who decided to omit the fact that 0.99

01:06:34.460 Samantha Hegseth has denied it from her CBS News report.

01:06:37.920 Here's an example of her on the rape allegation.

01:06:40.980 I don't know the young lady.

01:06:42.380 Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullin said Hegseth addressed the allegation in their meeting.

01:06:47.260 I don't think there's any way in the world you're going to say that this is a sexual

01:06:50.240 assault.

01:06:50.980 What makes you so confident about that?

01:06:53.140 Have you read the report?

01:06:54.020 I actually have.

01:06:54.980 I've got it right here.

01:06:55.740 I read the report, too.

01:06:56.840 It's pretty clear of what took place.

01:07:00.500 It was pretty clear that she definitely wasn't drugged to her room.

01:07:05.000 It was two people flirting with each other.

01:07:06.620 Well, it also said she couldn't get out of the room.

01:07:08.980 Well, that's one person's opinion.

01:07:10.580 Look how smug she is. 0.99

01:07:13.780 Unbelievable.

01:07:14.400 Sorry, smug.

01:07:14.960 Oh, I have it right here.

01:07:16.280 No, like she's somehow got greater expertise than a prosecutor, detective in a sheriff's

01:07:20.820 office, you know, that decided that this was, in fact, a false claim.

01:07:24.700 They weren't going to pursue charges.

01:07:26.960 I mean, it's so it's unbelievable.

01:07:29.020 It's immoral.

01:07:29.980 It is immoral.

01:07:30.680 It is immoral.

01:07:31.660 And I don't but I don't think it's going to stop anytime soon.

01:07:34.980 You know, I just don't.

01:07:36.220 If they haven't learned the lesson in November of doing all of this, like what would lead

01:07:40.960 them to believe that they're not going to just keep on doing it?

01:07:44.620 Here's the thing.

01:07:45.160 I don't think they will ever change.

01:07:47.100 I really don't.

01:07:47.820 I mean, I worked as a press secretary for my entire career.

01:07:50.140 I do not think they will ever change because the culture of newsrooms in New York is so

01:07:54.500 far left.

01:07:55.300 It's it's unfixable.

01:07:56.500 The only thing that will change and is changing right now is the movement of audiences away

01:08:01.660 from legacy media and towards media like your show, Megan.

01:08:05.560 People want to know that they can get information.

01:08:07.920 It's reliable and that you actually ask tough questions and you actually get the facts and

01:08:13.020 you're not satisfied until you get that.

01:08:14.580 And that's that's all an audience wants is reality.

01:08:18.880 There's a little bit more color on this.

01:08:21.280 Um, the NBC news reporter who, um, was behind this original report on the sister-in-law is

01:08:30.760 named Julie Serkin.

01:08:32.960 And, uh, there are two others, Sarah Fitzpatrick, Fitzpatrick and Courtney cube.

01:08:38.580 And, um, this Serkin once called journalism frightening because of Trump.

01:08:44.900 The greatest challenge is was realizing that I was entering the business at a frightening time

01:08:49.260 in almost every single speech I logged from Donald Trump's presidential campaign, there

01:08:53.320 was a jab at the free press, which makes it frightening for her to join the media. 0.85

01:08:59.300 Then she went on to say how challenging it was for her to balance emotional involvement

01:09:05.140 and objective journalism.

01:09:07.740 Well, I'm not sure she's doing such a great job of that over at NBC news where she files

01:09:13.180 this report on Pete and what's obviously an attempted political hit.

01:09:16.980 And so impressed was NBC nightly news with her reporting that they did not even include

01:09:22.200 it in their nightly news broadcast.

01:09:25.840 CBS runs with it, but omits the sister-in-law's denial.

01:09:30.940 NBC looks at that turd of a report and said, we've got bigger things to cover.

01:09:36.540 I love it.

01:09:37.760 They engage in just full on character assassination at the same time.

01:09:41.400 They act like they're dismounting the boats at D-Day.

01:09:44.540 You know, it's like, oh, oh my gosh, you know what we go through to cover this guy. 1.00

01:09:49.880 And by the way, that guy's a rapist. 0.98

01:09:52.120 Also, how much more obvious can you get? 1.00

01:09:54.280 You're in the wrong line of work.

01:09:55.420 If you say, I have a challenge being objective.

01:09:58.300 Okay.

01:09:58.660 You just said you need a new job.

01:09:59.980 Get out of there.

01:10:00.600 Maybe a columnist.

01:10:01.440 Yeah.

01:10:01.760 Yeah.

01:10:02.260 No problem.

01:10:03.120 So many other things you can do.

01:10:04.160 Like I always say to people who don't like the long hours or the weird hours of news,

01:10:08.120 there's KeyBank.

01:10:08.920 It's right down the road.

01:10:09.940 Nobody bothers you.

01:10:11.000 You work nine to four.

01:10:12.280 It's nice and easy.

01:10:13.380 I'm sure it's got its own set of challenges, but overall, it's far easier than working at

01:10:16.620 news.

01:10:16.860 You don't have to do this.

01:10:17.820 That's it.

01:10:18.280 Fine.

01:10:18.960 Go do something else.

01:10:20.400 It's no problem.

01:10:21.200 All right.

01:10:21.380 So the important thing is we think that Pete is going to be confirmed.

01:10:24.580 I have a prediction.

01:10:25.460 It is now Thursday.

01:10:26.640 They're saying possibly Friday night or the wee hours of Saturday morning that that because

01:10:32.300 Thune is basically saying, we're not leaving.

01:10:33.900 Get your cots.

01:10:34.680 We're going to have a vote on Pete and these others.

01:10:37.240 He's the Senate majority leader now.

01:10:38.920 And I have a prediction that Jack Reed slash Tim Kaine, et cetera.

01:10:44.200 They're not done.

01:10:44.960 They're they're going to try to pull yet another rabbit out of their hat on Pete because they're

01:10:49.620 really desperate to stop him.

01:10:51.280 I think they smell blood in the water on that one.

01:10:53.220 And they really just want to they want to get one.

01:10:55.800 And I think he's their favorite to get right now.

01:10:58.820 But good luck.

01:10:59.420 Good luck.

01:10:59.800 Because you got it.

01:11:00.460 They're going to try.

01:11:01.120 They're going to try, Megan.

01:11:02.420 But we said it during the hearings.

01:11:04.300 Once they presented the way that they did, they were so underprepared to know what it

01:11:08.920 was that would divide Republicans and imperil this nomination.

01:11:13.540 I mean, Johnny and I used to do this for a living.

01:11:15.720 We would put together strategies and plans to try to figure out how to kill Obama nominees

01:11:20.140 that we thought were just wholly unfit to hold cabinet positions.

01:11:23.600 And to do that, you have to do some examination of your targets and what would drive a Republican

01:11:28.900 away from doing that.

01:11:30.480 What they did in terms of executing a strategy was unified Republicans.

01:11:35.120 And the only thing was unified Republican.

01:11:38.240 And so, like, you know, they want to take out Pete.

01:11:40.580 Sure.

01:11:40.740 They want to take out Pete.

01:11:41.740 They're not going to get them.

01:11:42.820 And the reason they're not going to get them is because of the strategy that they have executed

01:11:46.480 upon.

01:11:46.860 They only have themselves to blame.

01:11:48.180 They're not doing any better with the OMB nominee, you guys.

01:11:53.440 This may be my favorite story of the day.

01:11:56.100 I don't know if you saw this.

01:11:57.920 But, you know, OMB stands for Office of Management and Budget.

01:12:03.440 And Trump's nominee, a guy named Russell Vogt, V-O-U-G-H-T, is he goes over there to submit

01:12:11.500 himself to questioning and a Democratic senator from the state of Washington, Patty Murray,

01:12:18.020 gets this number crunching, you know, accountant type guy who, you know, who's going to be managing

01:12:25.460 the budget.

01:12:26.180 That's a big responsibility.

01:12:27.320 She's got him in her crosshairs.

01:12:29.180 And where does she go with this extraordinary opportunity to cross examine him?

01:12:35.080 She goes here.

01:12:36.080 You are a lead author of the Anti-Abortion Project 2025, that when it comes to abortion,

01:12:42.960 you, quote, want to get to abolition.

01:12:45.840 You don't believe in exceptions for rape, for incest, or life of the mother.

01:12:50.640 Is that your position?

01:12:51.520 Senator, my views are not important.

01:12:53.040 I'm here on behalf of the president as his nominee to restore fiscal accountability.

01:12:56.920 I'm asking you a question under oath, sir, because you want to be director of an office

01:13:03.020 that will advise the president, and we have a right to know your views.

01:13:06.780 Will you answer the question?

01:13:07.820 I will, Senator, because it's consistent with the views that the president ran on repeatedly,

01:13:13.200 made his views very clear on abortion.

01:13:16.160 Even in the case of rape, incest, life of the mother.

01:13:19.000 That is his view.

01:13:19.860 And I will strictly abide by the president's view.

01:13:24.520 There it is.

01:13:26.920 Oh, my God.

01:13:29.020 Well, she's on to it.

01:13:30.020 Wrong target?

01:13:32.700 She figured it out.

01:13:35.860 She finally got it.

01:13:37.240 And, you know, sadly, she's going to have to register her menstrual cycles here soon 0.97

01:13:41.280 with the Office of Management and Budget.

01:13:43.280 That's right.

01:13:44.200 The Project 2025.

01:13:45.580 This is good.

01:13:46.120 It's amazing to me.

01:13:47.200 Like, who?

01:13:48.160 OK, so he's got views that are controversial on abortion.

01:13:50.920 He's going to be the number cruncher.

01:13:53.020 He's the guy with a little green visor who's going to be doing addition and subtraction.

01:13:58.120 He is not going to be running federal abortion policy, which is not really a thing.

01:14:04.460 Yeah.

01:14:04.620 But I think it's important to remember, Megan, that these Democrats are entirely captured

01:14:09.440 by these ideological nonprofits and institutions that run the Democratic Party and finance it.

01:14:15.580 And that's one of the reasons, back to the Pete Hegg set thing, that they chose character

01:14:19.860 assassination rather than actual, like, foreign policy where maybe they could find some fissures

01:14:23.940 in the Republican Party.

01:14:25.060 They're not actually interested in success here.

01:14:27.780 They're interested in placating the billion-dollar donors that run their party who care about

01:14:32.500 abortion.

01:14:33.540 Yeah.

01:14:34.060 Yeah.

01:14:34.320 I think that's right.

01:14:35.360 I mean, clearly, it has to be.

01:14:37.160 And their little echo chamber.

01:14:38.520 Yeah.

01:14:38.680 Right.

01:14:38.980 I mean, you listen to MSNBC, and this is all they're talking about, and all of their

01:14:42.540 C4s and make-work-fail-sons and whatnot that are pushing papers their way saying character 0.99

01:14:47.600 assassination is the only way to go.

01:14:49.200 Right.

01:14:49.680 And Project 2025, alive and well, you know?

01:14:52.600 Wait, stand by on that.

01:14:53.700 Stand by, because Senator Whitehouse, he weighed in on this, too, in cross-examining vote.

01:15:00.080 Watch. 0.99

01:15:00.780 This clown. 0.97

01:15:01.440 Do you have knowledge of where the executive orders were drafted? 0.95

01:15:05.860 I don't have a comprehensive knowledge of where the executive orders were drafted.

01:15:09.720 Do you have any knowledge of where the executive orders were drafted?

01:15:12.420 Do you know, for instance, if some of them came out of language from the Center for Renewing

01:15:16.060 America, or some of them came out of Project 2025, or some of them came out of the Heritage

01:15:23.460 Institute, or some of them came out of the American Petroleum Institute?

01:15:27.000 Do you know an answer to those questions?

01:15:29.700 I can't imagine they came from Project 2025.

01:15:32.200 The president disassociated himself repeatedly from that.

01:15:35.880 But no, I can't give you a comprehensive.

01:15:38.760 I mean, I'm told by a reliable source mug that you've got breaking news on 2025.

01:15:43.480 What's the story?

01:15:44.620 So that's the thing, is the funniest joke we ever pulled on the Democrats was convincing

01:15:50.720 them that Project 2025 wasn't real.

01:15:53.500 Yeah, exactly right.

01:15:54.520 And to, I mean, Russ's credit, he's perfectly composed at these hearings.

01:16:00.080 I don't know how he maintains the composure to not just come forward and be like, it's

01:16:04.760 over.

01:16:05.280 We won.

01:16:06.340 Yes, we're going to do Project 2025.

01:16:08.540 And here's the thing is, it's good.

01:16:10.180 And, you know, he's going to be managing OMB.

01:16:13.400 So one of the things to consider is everyone thinks Project 2025 only has to deal with abortion. 0.61

01:16:18.460 When you're managing the budget, there's tremendous economic benefits.

01:16:21.900 I've been told by a reliable source, for example, there's going to be so many jobs created because

01:16:26.240 all the red robes and bonnets are going to be made here in America.

01:16:30.620 So many jobs will be created.

01:16:34.560 Can you imagine if you went with it like that?

01:16:37.740 Yeah.

01:16:39.800 Excellent.

01:16:40.760 It's amazing.

01:16:41.500 The obsession.

01:16:42.320 Like, they have obviously no points to score against this guy.

01:16:44.940 He already was OMB director under Trump one.

01:16:47.600 And they just decide to, like, use it as a showcase for one of their favorite ponies.

01:16:52.960 Like, oh, yeah, let's talk about abortion. 0.82

01:16:54.720 Here's an extremist. 0.66

01:16:56.000 Let's let's make the American population hate him.

01:16:58.280 That's fun.

01:16:59.080 Let's bring up all of our old favorites.

01:17:00.940 Project 2025 and abortion with no exceptions. 0.67

01:17:05.320 Good times.

01:17:06.280 Right.

01:17:06.660 I like that's all they have at this point.

01:17:08.940 I want to talk about this.

01:17:09.960 On the subject of people we no longer trust or should trust, Trump is yanking the security

01:17:16.840 clearances of various officials.

01:17:19.480 And it's frankly kind of delicious, including those 51 so-called national security officials

01:17:27.500 or intelligence experts who signed the letter suggesting that the Hunter Biden laptop was

01:17:34.200 Russian disinformation, which was a coordinated effort between those guys and the Biden campaign 0.98

01:17:40.680 to save Joe Biden's ass from that laptop. 0.96

01:17:45.280 And so Trump has pulled their security clearances, including people like John Brennan, 0.99

01:17:50.760 Brennan, James Clapper, Leon Panetta.

01:17:53.780 And he also pulled the security clearance of John Bolton.

01:17:57.140 And I think also pulled John Bolton's Secret Service protection, which I did not even realize

01:18:06.060 he was getting while he was traveling.

01:18:09.000 Molly Hemingway pointed this out from media outlet to media outlet to bash Trump and make

01:18:15.100 sure he wasn't reelected.

01:18:17.100 The Secret Service was following him.

01:18:19.340 Why were they protecting John Bolton instead of Trump adequately at the Pittsburgh rally?

01:18:23.080 That's a question I'd love an answer to.

01:18:24.760 So what do you make of the pulling of the security clearances of these folks?

01:18:31.060 Because CBS's Margaret Brennan, she's very concerned.

01:18:35.020 Here's what she tweeted.

01:18:36.600 President Trump revoked the security clearance of a long list of former intelligence officials.

01:18:41.940 This makes it hard for his own team to seek informed counsel from them.

01:18:48.180 Yeah.

01:18:49.060 Informed counsel.

01:18:49.940 You're going to get informed counsel, all right.

01:18:51.820 I mean, what an—this is so overdue.

01:18:55.760 Yes.

01:18:56.380 Because a couple of things.

01:18:57.820 It's not just that they signed that letter.

01:19:00.120 That was egregious in and of itself.

01:19:01.640 Should have been enough right away.

01:19:03.200 In fact, if you were being fair in a Democratic administration, you found out something was

01:19:07.340 that much of a lie.

01:19:09.740 You couldn't trust them with America's secrets, right?

01:19:12.200 So you'd have to do it.

01:19:13.000 But of course, they didn't.

01:19:14.000 The bigger problem here is that there is a cottage industry that both CNN and MSNBC and

01:19:20.960 those three networks, which is why Margaret Brennan is upset about this, engage in, in

01:19:25.420 that they put all of these folks under contract to talk about, quote unquote, national security

01:19:29.480 issues.

01:19:29.940 Yep.

01:19:30.060 Except for the fact that they have security clearances, and so they can give you sort

01:19:34.520 of half-truths and knowing nods.

01:19:37.600 And well, you know, this was the case all through Russiagate.

01:19:41.080 It was like, well, we've seen information that compels us to take action.

01:19:46.180 And I think that the right thing to do is to go through with a Mueller report and all 0.99

01:19:49.800 this and the other, when they hadn't seen shit. 0.99

01:19:51.960 And this was all a partisan charade right from the very beginning. 0.99

01:19:55.940 But you, the viewer, are watching this as a former CIA director, clearly still has his

01:20:01.120 national security clearances.

01:20:02.480 You're looking at, like, of course, he can't tell me the whole thing.

01:20:04.800 They can't give up America's secrets.

01:20:06.080 But he's giving me that knowing nod, saying that this guy is guilty of all sorts of treason.

01:20:10.760 So, you know, what choice do I have to believe him?

01:20:14.140 That is really.

01:20:15.680 And that's the crime.

01:20:16.620 That's the critical thing is this was these people were incredibly corrupt because they

01:20:21.780 used the fact that they had access to that intelligence as a meal ticket.

01:20:26.800 They signed these contributor contracts so that they could say, oh, you know, Clapper,

01:20:31.520 he has a security clearance and, you know, he's a paid contributor.

01:20:34.620 And he says this bears the hallmarks of Russian disinformation.

01:20:39.460 So he can just use the fact that he has security clearance to get himself a nice little patient.

01:20:44.480 You're the viewer.

01:20:45.260 You're saying, well, the CIA director said it bears the hallmark.

01:20:48.620 He surely knows what the hallmarks look like.

01:20:50.740 Nonsense. 1.00

01:20:51.900 It turned out to be all bullshit. 1.00

01:20:53.640 But if you watch, if you really watch these people on the air, it is so much more sadistic 1.00

01:20:58.460 than that.

01:20:59.040 Yeah, because they take it into each and every little thing that they disagree with.

01:21:03.760 Trump is obviously the target.

01:21:05.160 But even like foreign policy discussions where Trump is immaterial to the conversation, they

01:21:10.260 give you information right up to the point where you're like, all right, we'll show us

01:21:14.180 information.

01:21:14.600 And they kind of give you the wink.

01:21:15.660 And they're like, we can't talk about all of it.

01:21:17.660 Yeah.

01:21:17.840 You know, because they're pushing the agenda.

01:21:20.620 It is deeply, deeply problematic.

01:21:24.440 I'm really glad he did it.

01:21:26.180 Yeah.

01:21:26.440 This guy, General Michael Hayden, he's one of them.

01:21:29.600 And I twice, at least twice, he openly compared Trump to Hitler.

01:21:35.480 Why would Trump allow this guy ongoing access to anything?

01:21:40.140 Anything.

01:21:40.780 Never mind our national security secrets.

01:21:42.280 This is obviously a dishonest broker.

01:21:44.980 So good for him.

01:21:46.660 More controversial is news today that he's pulling Secret Service protection for Mike

01:21:52.980 Pompeo.

01:21:54.660 And I wonder your thoughts on that.

01:21:56.420 I mean, I, you know, I have nothing against Mike Pompeo.

01:21:59.580 I understand he's controversial within some MAGA circles.

01:22:02.340 Um, but I don't want him to get hurt.

01:22:05.560 And I realized he was in an important position and actually, you know, could be exposed.

01:22:09.680 I think he may have, have money to protect himself.

01:22:12.220 I don't know.

01:22:12.860 I'm not sure that whether that factored in or not, but I do think in general, we have too

01:22:18.100 many ex government officials who have Secret Service protection, given the fact that we have

01:22:23.420 a Secret Service that is obviously undermanned and feeling slightly overwhelmed.

01:22:27.860 Yeah, I think there's two separate questions that your last point is, is right.

01:22:32.660 And I think that all of that requires review.

01:22:36.320 Look, we know Mike Pompeo, the reason that he had, and typically secretaries of state don't,

01:22:41.900 but the reason he had Secret Service protection is that there were very credible, very realistic

01:22:47.720 threats on his life from Iran.

01:22:50.220 And given the role that he played in the first Trump administration with a very aggressive

01:22:54.940 posture towards Iran, those were real. 0.99

01:22:58.180 And, and, you know, we don't know anything that's at all classified, but I can tell you

01:23:03.100 that it was a thing.

01:23:04.660 Now, whether it's no longer a thing, I don't know.

01:23:07.240 And I don't know what would cause them to, to pull it.

01:23:09.680 I honestly don't know that he was ever at a point where he was sort of anti-Trump.

01:23:14.100 So I, maybe this is a security.

01:23:15.840 I sat two people down from him at that Pittsburgh rally that I spoke at for Trump the night before

01:23:21.260 the election.

01:23:21.780 So he showed up there.

01:23:22.820 He was in the good graces of the president, but I mean, and I would think as the former

01:23:27.400 CIA director under Trump, the former secretary of state under Trump, maybe he does have some

01:23:31.820 security threats.

01:23:32.640 I mean, you can see that.

01:23:34.020 But I know that like, there's, there's a very strong strain within the top MAGA echelons

01:23:39.280 that really pushed against using him again in this administration because they think he's

01:23:43.460 too much of a, a war hawk.

01:23:46.220 Um, they think he's just a little too Neo Connie, which is fine. 0.96

01:23:50.700 They got their way, but I don't totally get other than if they've had a falling out, in

01:23:55.200 which case that would be petty by Trump or in, if Trump is basically just trying to rein

01:24:00.340 in the costs of this enormous service that, I mean, John Bolton had, like how many people

01:24:07.860 have it?

01:24:08.440 How many family members have it?

01:24:10.780 Like how long will Hunter Biden have it?

01:24:13.420 You know, it's just, this is an American taxpayer expense.

01:24:16.040 And I just wonder, given how undermanned they are, whether we should be realistic about our,

01:24:20.900 our abilities to pay these fees.

01:24:23.480 That's the right question.

01:24:24.400 Those are the right questions.

01:24:25.380 And I think, you know, given what we saw over the summer threats on, on president Trump,

01:24:29.960 I mean, getting shot and all the failures of all of that.

01:24:32.940 Um, it does require an open review of all, and I don't know the answers to those questions,

01:24:37.420 right?

01:24:37.840 I mean, we don't have any idea about what secret service details are out there and on

01:24:42.340 whom and how far it goes back.

01:24:43.880 Clearly former presidents need something, but beyond that, you got to make a justification.

01:24:48.940 I hope what I hope Megan is that the decision on the Pompeo secret service was based on an

01:24:56.240 assessment of the security situation and nothing else, because if it's nothing else, it's tough.

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01:26:05.320 Before we get to the Oscars, got to spend a minute on the Obamas because there seems to

01:26:11.660 be some momentum picking up in the rumor mill about their marriage.

01:26:15.440 All right, I'm going to bring you what I know.

01:26:19.080 First, on January 15th, in the substack of Jessica Reed Krauss, also known as House and

01:26:26.040 Habit, she's well-connected in some circles and worked for RFKJ for a time, right?

01:26:31.340 Didn't she?

01:26:31.680 She was close to RFKJ.

01:26:34.200 Close to.

01:26:35.440 She posts the following.

01:26:37.820 And she's been right about a lot, this gal.

01:26:39.340 Michelle Obama's absence at Jimmy Carter's funeral certainly raised some eyebrows, but

01:26:45.140 yesterday's announcement that she won't be attending Trump's inauguration confirmed something

01:26:48.420 is definitely going on between her and Barack.

01:26:51.080 She said, whispers about cracks in their relationship have been circulating in D.C.

01:26:54.820 for over a year now, but this feels like the first public proof of a marriage on the rocks.

01:26:59.420 The question now isn't if, but when.

01:27:01.940 If I had to guess, they will wait until after the inauguration to announce it.

01:27:05.720 What timing, you know, is everything.

01:27:07.200 And yet the story doesn't end there.

01:27:08.720 For months, I've heard Jennifer Aniston's name tied to Barack.

01:27:13.700 At first, it seemed ridiculous, but the rumors have remained steady among New York and L.A.

01:27:19.620 circles.

01:27:20.040 I should reiterate to the audience that Aniston has denied it, saying, I don't even know

01:27:24.500 him.

01:27:24.720 I've seen Michelle more than I've ever seen him.

01:27:26.960 Then Jessica cites a DM she received the day before, quote, he's with Jennifer Aniston.

01:27:32.960 My old manager, now a friend, is connected to her inner circle.

01:27:37.000 At a gathering with Jennifer's friends, the affair came up casually.

01:27:40.580 Jennifer herself admitted it.

01:27:42.140 They were sitting with a psychic, which makes it sound surreal, but it's definitely not a secret

01:27:47.620 among her closest friends.

01:27:50.160 Then yesterday, Meghan McCain had a discussion about this on her show, suggesting she is hearing

01:27:59.920 the same, she had on Tara Palmieri, who's a reporter, saying, fast and furious loud, I've

01:28:08.680 been hearing this rumor about the Obamas getting divorced from reputable people.

01:28:12.000 I'm not talking about TMZ, she says.

01:28:13.760 I'm talking about very serious journalists telling me they are hearing that the Obama divorce

01:28:17.800 rumors are true.

01:28:19.400 And Tara, who's a senior political correspondent for Puck, says, I've certainly heard it for

01:28:22.800 a while, too, even before Michelle said she wasn't coming to the inauguration.

01:28:28.440 I do not know whether this is true at all, but if it is true, it truly would be a political

01:28:33.780 earthquake earthquake in Democrat circles.

01:28:37.680 Never mind America.

01:28:38.560 I don't remember a presidential divorce in modern history.

01:28:42.680 What do you guys make of it?

01:28:44.100 Oh, so I started hearing murmurs about this a while ago, too.

01:28:48.560 And I guess so Ash, Ashbrook, and he confirmed it because he was a psychic there.

01:28:56.180 We did it with a psychic.

01:28:57.640 Yeah.

01:28:57.940 And so that's the thing is how awesome must have that situation been that the psychic was

01:29:02.780 like, I see a president in your past that you're currently dating.

01:29:07.760 And he's like, oh, it's Barack.

01:29:10.420 You're right.

01:29:11.300 And like through the crystal ball, it's like, I'll be there for you.

01:29:15.060 My name is Jennifer Aniston.

01:29:18.560 Jennifer Aniston, it was her circle of friends there, allegedly discussing that.

01:29:25.120 I mean, we don't know.

01:29:26.080 We don't know.

01:29:26.720 But I know it's true. 0.94

01:29:27.800 Is it so hard to believe?

01:29:31.020 When a woman tells another woman, yeah, you can tell me I'll keep a secret. 1.00

01:29:34.560 The phone's already out.

01:29:36.240 Now it's about to hit a group chat.

01:29:38.160 So that is, to me, the most conclusive piece of evidence.

01:29:41.520 Some of you are married.

01:29:43.120 Did you see the post he put out to celebrate her birthday?

01:29:48.780 Was it her birthday or their anniversary?

01:29:50.580 He chose the least attractive photo of her that's ever been released.

01:29:57.040 I mean, this is just wrong.

01:29:59.060 Michelle Obama can look very nice in a photograph.

01:30:01.480 This ain't it.

01:30:02.760 She's got the kerchief on her head. 0.94

01:30:05.500 They're about 20 feet apart in this intimate dinner.

01:30:09.320 And he looks great.

01:30:11.420 This is classic, right?

01:30:12.500 Like, he's like, yeah, this is a great picture.

01:30:14.460 He's got the thousand watts a mile.

01:30:16.560 And she looks terrible.

01:30:19.040 Why would he do this?

01:30:19.900 I can tell you, Megan, if I posted that photo, I certainly wouldn't be dating Jennifer Aniston.

01:30:25.980 You'd be a dead man? 0.75

01:30:27.000 I'd be a dead man. 0.97

01:30:29.820 I've only been married a year, but I've already learned.

01:30:32.080 You take the photos, you show it to the wife, and then you distribute it.

01:30:35.700 Well, no, no, no, the way it works is you take the photo, you show it to the wife, you retake

01:30:39.720 the photo, and then you get the photo, and then you, and then there's always a couple

01:30:44.820 of steps.

01:30:45.000 You got to get the principal to sign off.

01:30:45.980 Okay, but let me ask you for real, like, for real, do you think this is true?

01:30:51.100 No.

01:30:51.420 So here's the thing, and this is one of the theory of the case.

01:30:54.520 Maybe Jennifer Aniston is the Biden's answer to George Clooney here, right?

01:30:59.560 I mean, maybe this, because I'll be honest, I have heard this sort of thing rumbling around

01:31:05.860 in D.C., and there's some connections there with the, like, people, what you would call

01:31:12.120 reputable people because they served in an administration.

01:31:15.780 Maybe they served in the Obama administration.

01:31:17.580 They certainly served in the Biden administration.

01:31:19.220 And that's the thing is, so the Bidens and the Obamas hate each other because Michelle

01:31:23.220 Obama is very good friends with Hunter Biden's ex-wife.

01:31:27.100 So that's led to a significant problem where they don't like Hunter, and if you don't like

01:31:31.760 Hunter, Joe doesn't like you.

01:31:33.200 So I would not be surprised if Holmes is right on with this of, like, oh, well, why don't

01:31:37.460 we do this?

01:31:38.220 It's like, oh, man, you give us problems?

01:31:40.120 Maybe you can have a problem or do.

01:31:41.440 Bingo.

01:31:41.880 But I'll tell you what.

01:31:42.820 This is next level.

01:31:43.880 Wait, just to be clear, you are suggesting that maybe there is something going on between

01:31:48.940 Barack and Jennifer, and the Bidens are leaking it.

01:31:54.120 That could be.

01:31:55.220 That could be.

01:31:56.240 I'll tell you what.

01:31:57.400 All the hallmarks.

01:31:57.860 Go ahead, Ashbrook.

01:31:59.140 If it is true and he leaves Michelle Obama high and dry and she's dissatisfied, I cannot

01:32:09.900 wait to learn about all of these secrets that Barack Obama has kept hidden over the years

01:32:15.300 from Michelle Obama and her pals.

01:32:17.580 Because you know there's an old past on Obama that nobody has written about, but she could 0.88

01:32:23.560 be a first-person witness.

01:32:24.920 And here he is alone at the Trump inauguration, which really was, it was stark.

01:32:32.360 All these former presidents came in with their wives and then there he was.

01:32:36.440 It was jarring.

01:32:37.380 All alone.

01:32:38.320 It was jarring, wasn't it?

01:32:39.960 Yeah.

01:32:40.380 Yeah.

01:32:40.620 I mean, just the spectacle of it all and then seeing him alone.

01:32:44.780 I mean, it really did.

01:32:45.660 Like, as a viewer, you knew she wasn't coming, but then you saw the visual of it and you're

01:32:48.960 like, hmm.

01:32:50.420 And then the Clintons were there together.

01:32:52.180 I mean, yeah.

01:32:53.140 The Clintons can be there together.

01:32:55.680 What is going on with the Obama?

01:32:57.140 And I talked about this with Maureen Callahan, but the fact that Michelle did not go to the

01:33:00.700 Carter funeral, it really is kind of shocking because she said, her team said she had an

01:33:07.100 appointment.

01:33:07.840 She had a scheduling conflict.

01:33:10.040 Like, what could possibly be a conflict that would keep you away as a Democrat from President

01:33:15.880 Carter's funeral and then the inauguration?

01:33:19.420 It's like, I don't, and somebody was, was it Maureen?

01:33:22.140 Somebody was saying maybe she's having plastic surgery, right?

01:33:24.700 But she, but then he posts that picture of the two of them where she doesn't, she wasn't

01:33:28.260 having plastic surgery.

01:33:29.160 So what the hell's going on?

01:33:30.960 And that's, it's, it's clearly not a part of the thing.

01:33:33.140 Like Michelle is not trying to resist.

01:33:34.780 So she skipped the inauguration because she also skipped the Carter funeral. 0.98

01:33:37.940 There's something happening there.

01:33:39.440 There's something there.

01:33:40.260 They did a fist bump.

01:33:42.080 I mean, that's, that clears everything up, right?

01:33:45.160 I mean, there's not to add insult to injury, but there's a daily mail report out today saying

01:33:50.220 Kamala Harris's marriage may be on the rocks.

01:33:53.260 Like everybody's, everybody's on the rocks.

01:33:55.860 Again, it's, I will say, I love the daily mail, but the sourcing appeared weak.

01:33:59.500 It was like people who know the couple, but like, I don't know if it's any better than

01:34:02.740 that, but they're saying she's blaming him in part for her loss because he turned out to

01:34:07.820 be such a hot mess liability.

01:34:10.100 You buy it?

01:34:11.340 Oh my gosh.

01:34:12.480 Well, we do know Dougie Emhoff's got a bit of a temper, right?

01:34:15.380 I mean, there's some stuff that was problematic.

01:34:18.340 I also think like, this is a guy who is so used to running his own world for so long.

01:34:22.140 And then all of a sudden he's just sort of like, basically a bag boy during the course

01:34:26.560 of a six month election.

01:34:27.340 All the person shut your mouth.

01:34:28.420 I can't imagine that went over terribly.

01:34:30.360 The second gentleman.

01:34:31.780 Yeah.

01:34:33.200 I love the idea that it wasn't the economy or the open border or like Joe Biden being a

01:34:39.680 dementia patient or like you going on The View and saying, I wouldn't change anything from 1.00

01:34:44.880 the last four years.

01:34:45.940 That isn't the reason you lost.

01:34:47.380 It was Dougie, but all Dougie, it was Doug and his receiving here.

01:34:51.480 I'm just going to say, I'm all for marrying people named Doug, but she blew it somehow.

01:34:55.940 I don't know.

01:34:56.940 Okay.

01:34:57.340 Let's move on to the Oscars and I'll tell the SiriusXM audience, I don't know if we're

01:35:00.840 going to be able to get to the end of this before we say goodbye to you, but I'll keep

01:35:06.000 you guys over for just a couple of minutes.

01:35:07.280 If you give me a couple extra at the end, we'll get it all in on podcast and YouTube.

01:35:10.180 I'm into the Oscar situation.

01:35:13.560 So as you saw, as you, you know, from Javier Millet with his firebrand speech at Davos

01:35:20.000 to Trump and his firebrand speech at Davos to Trump's winning Trump's executive order,

01:35:25.080 the polls overwhelmingly showing that the American people feel we have quote, gone too far to

01:35:30.620 accommodate the transgender stuff. 0.99

01:35:33.480 Um, there's been a clear message sent, not just by Republicans, but by Democrats as well.

01:35:41.280 Holly weird hasn't received said message because the Oscar nominations came out today, you guys,

01:35:48.300 and I know you're big theater critics, so I saved this for you.

01:35:51.580 Um, among the people nominated for best actress in a leading role is a man, a man.

01:36:03.320 I tell you, uh, he used to be known up until he was like in his late forties as Carlos Gascon.

01:36:12.040 And now he goes by Carla Sophia Gascon.

01:36:15.820 Uh, he is 52 years old and transitioned in 2016, so-called transitioned.

01:36:22.640 And for this, he was rewarded with the lead role in this movie, Emilia Perez, which has been,

01:36:31.520 I think, also nominated for best picture.

01:36:34.400 And it's about a drug Lord who's a Mexican, like cartel boss, who's a male, who really wants 0.88

01:36:42.140 to transition as a Mexican cartel drug boss and does so from male to female.

01:36:47.460 And of course, this is like tailor-made for awards in Hollywood at the Golden Globes.

01:36:53.380 Uh, Emilia Perez won for best picture musical or comedy.

01:36:57.100 I guess it's got music in it too.

01:36:58.880 He called for, uh, trans people to stand up to bigotry.

01:37:03.240 And now he has been nominated.

01:37:06.720 He has taken one of the five coveted spots for best actress, best actress.

01:37:14.880 So my basic take is all these Hollywood women deserve this and I don't feel sorry for them. 0.96

01:37:24.040 But what do you think?

01:37:25.500 Well, uh, as you know, we take works of film very seriously here on the Ruthless Variety

01:37:31.260 program and we exhibit most of our expertise through our resident thespian, uh, Michael

01:37:38.220 Duncan.

01:37:38.560 So Michael, I'd, I'd be curious as to your take on the arts, uh, writ large and whether

01:37:44.280 it is comporting itself with the electorate that is now seemingly unwelcome to their advances.

01:37:49.600 Well, you know, I don't think any of these films really comport with most of the electorate,

01:37:54.240 if I'm being quite honest with you.

01:37:55.700 I do love the idea of a transitioning cartel boss though. 0.92

01:37:59.380 I would love to know how that went down.

01:38:01.040 Like in the meeting with your capos and your consiguiaries, like, by the way, I want to

01:38:06.100 be a woman.

01:38:06.700 Like, I think that's actually pretty wild.

01:38:08.900 So I'm sure it's an interesting story.

01:38:10.100 That would be the end of your, your time as the boss.

01:38:13.220 Yeah.

01:38:13.700 Right.

01:38:14.520 Um, but I mean, um, one movie that was actually nominated a bunch of times that I actually

01:38:18.440 really enjoyed was Nosferatu, the remake of the old classic.

01:38:22.140 It was fantastic.

01:38:22.900 It's by that Eggers guy who did that witch movie.

01:38:24.880 It's an A24 movie, which I know is a little more artsy.

01:38:27.520 You see it, Megan?

01:38:28.420 You see why we do this?

01:38:29.560 I didn't even understand anything you just said, Holmes.

01:38:32.800 The reason why I bring it up is, um, uh, Johnny Depp's daughter, Lily Rose Depp in that

01:38:39.680 movie is fantastic and definitely should have been nominated for best actress.

01:38:43.300 And it's a shame that she was.

01:38:44.500 He's not doing this ironically.

01:38:45.880 This is, this is, this is genuine.

01:38:47.440 This is a genuine review.

01:38:49.040 Yeah.

01:38:49.500 What was the name of the movie?

01:38:51.360 The, the, the cartel.

01:38:52.300 Amelia Perez.

01:38:53.760 That's the train.

01:38:54.400 Such a lost opportunity.

01:38:55.480 You could have said cartel boss gets a little chopo.

01:38:57.340 Well done, Smug.

01:39:04.940 Well done.

01:39:05.780 Wait, it just in case you didn't see it, you know, I'll give you a little preview.

01:39:09.160 Um, Zoe Saldana's in it among others.

01:39:11.700 This, as I said, is apparently a musical and we pulled a little from the movie, a little

01:39:17.300 scene of, um, well, you watch.

01:39:19.680 Hello, very nice to meet you.

01:39:23.920 I'd like to know about sex change operation.

01:39:27.020 I see, I see, I see.

01:39:30.060 Men to woman. 0.90

01:39:31.680 A woman to men. 0.96

01:39:33.300 Men to woman. 1.00

01:39:34.760 From penis to vagina. 1.00

01:39:36.340 Okay. 1.00

01:39:38.380 Is it for me?

01:39:39.460 I'm going to make this your ringtone.

01:39:41.140 For me?

01:39:41.440 What would you like to know about it, madam?

01:39:48.500 I want to know it all.

01:39:50.080 What is the protocol?

01:39:51.560 The techniques and the risks.

01:39:53.200 How many operations?

01:39:54.780 How much time do you need?

01:39:58.240 Mammoplasty.

01:39:58.860 Yes.

01:39:59.780 Vaginoplasty.

01:40:00.400 Yes.

01:40:01.260 Rhinoplasty.

01:40:01.940 Yes.

01:40:02.460 Nominated for an Oscar.

01:40:04.420 Mammoplasty.

01:40:05.020 Yes.

01:40:05.880 Vaginoplasty.

01:40:06.580 Yes.

01:40:07.500 Rhinoplasty.

01:40:08.160 Yes.

01:40:09.040 Laryngoplasty.

01:40:09.760 Yes.

01:40:10.000 Control laryngoplasty.

01:40:11.740 What is that?

01:40:12.700 Adam's up for reduction.

01:40:14.760 Yes, yes, yes.

01:40:15.720 I'm sure it's not Jesus is coming.

01:40:18.180 Oh.

01:40:18.580 Here's the thing.

01:40:19.360 My God.

01:40:19.840 How are they not trolling?

01:40:20.940 Like, this is not satire?

01:40:23.420 No.

01:40:24.500 We checked.

01:40:25.360 We thought this was parody.

01:40:26.880 It's real.

01:40:28.180 I want to make a movie that's just so blatant.

01:40:30.420 Like, that's, I mean, like, that has to be a show.

01:40:32.900 It feels like the South Park guys could have come up with that.

01:40:35.500 The other thing is.

01:40:36.660 It's real.

01:40:36.720 Robin Williams was robbed because his performance as Mrs. Doubtfire was unforgettable.

01:40:45.500 So if anybody should have won an award, it's him.

01:40:48.000 Robin Williams, posthumous, best actress.

01:40:50.880 How is a movie, right?

01:40:53.720 Double check me, team.

01:40:54.680 I think it's nominated for best picture with vaginoplasty.

01:40:58.220 Yes.

01:40:59.020 Memoplasty.

01:40:59.780 Yes.

01:41:00.540 Rhinoplasty.

01:41:01.300 Yeah.

01:41:01.440 How is that nominated for best picture?

01:41:03.900 This person, Carla Sofia Gascon, at the Golden Globes in January, spoke after this movie won

01:41:11.100 best picture in a musical whatever there.

01:41:13.700 And here is what he said.

01:41:14.880 You can maybe put us in jail.

01:41:19.920 You can beat us up, but you never can take away our soul, our assistance, our identity.

01:41:32.480 And I want to say to you, raise your voice and say, I want, I am who I am.

01:41:40.880 OK, no one's putting transgender people in jail for being transgender.

01:41:48.340 No, that's not a thing.

01:41:50.820 Finks himself sound like he's Jim Valvano.

01:41:53.480 You're not making the cancer.

01:41:54.980 Can I take my soul?

01:41:57.020 Right.

01:41:58.720 He's on the stage accepting an award for best picture.

01:42:02.400 Nobody feels sorry for you. 0.99

01:42:03.920 It's ridiculous. 0.70

01:42:05.120 And now, honestly, I can think, oh, here are the other actresses, OK, nominated in the 0.89

01:42:10.420 best actress category.

01:42:12.320 Fernanda Torres from I'm Still Here.

01:42:15.300 Demi Moore for The Substance, which I'm told is absolutely terrible.

01:42:21.220 Cynthia, is it Erivo?

01:42:24.560 She's, yeah, she's from Wicked.

01:42:26.300 She's the co-star in Wicked across from, what's her name?

01:42:31.540 Yeah.

01:42:31.880 Aria.

01:42:32.240 Yeah, Ariana Grande and Mickey Madison for the movie Anora.

01:42:38.280 So he's I don't know if he's the favorite, but you tell me, I feel like these women are 1.00

01:42:45.120 probably really pro his presence in the Oscars and his presence in the movies.

01:42:50.740 And not one of them will speak a word about the fact that an already very limited field,

01:42:58.200 it's hard to get one of these nominations, is now even more limited because there is a

01:43:03.100 man who was a man and presenting as a man all the way up to 2016, who's probably going

01:43:11.720 to win.

01:43:12.120 It's a it couldn't happen to a better group.

01:43:15.740 We were pontificating between the breaks, Megan, about whether or not this was just like a

01:43:19.800 the best joke of all time, like whether or not this picture, you guys, was going home.

01:43:26.420 Sorry.

01:43:27.700 Whether or not this project was financed by like Leonard Leo or something like that, where

01:43:33.260 they're like, I bet we can get the Academy to say conservative, yeah, like maybe they

01:43:39.260 will recognize what is, of course, an entirely ironic presentation like that song in and of

01:43:46.040 itself really did look like a Matt Stone South Park like production.

01:43:51.840 Yeah.

01:43:52.480 Like remember when Peter Boghossian and his pals came up with those fake papers like, is my

01:43:57.820 dog a racist?

01:43:58.700 And all these colleges published them and then they revealed it was a hoax like that.

01:44:04.340 Is this like Matt Walsh's secret movie?

01:44:06.720 Yeah.

01:44:07.660 Is he actually behind this?

01:44:09.540 It like definitively breaks the Academy Awards because they've just like fallen for the

01:44:16.120 Okay, so I'm not done.

01:44:17.400 It's it's not just that movie and this guy.

01:44:20.940 Now I'm kind of rooting for him.

01:44:22.300 I hope he wins.

01:44:23.120 I hope I really do.

01:44:24.020 I hope he wins the whole thing.

01:44:25.540 I'm I'm I'm going to try to vote.

01:44:26.860 I am I think I don't know if I'm a member of the Academy.

01:44:30.240 You know, I'm an actress now.

01:44:31.340 I'm in SAG.

01:44:32.080 Thanks to my appearance and Mr.

01:44:33.680 Burcham.

01:44:34.340 Yeah, I was a cartoon star.

01:44:35.660 You may may have missed it.

01:44:37.060 It's possible.

01:44:38.220 Anyway, that's not the only controversial thing going on in the Oscars.

01:44:43.420 Here is a clip of one of the best actor nominees.

01:44:50.660 See if this looks familiar to you. 0.93

01:44:52.440 Listen, Judy, about a hundred reporters were crawling up my ass to get this interview and 0.99

01:44:57.920 I gave you the exclusive. 0.98

01:45:01.100 Uh, yes.

01:45:02.380 Hello, Judy. 0.99

01:45:03.160 This is Donald Trump.

01:45:04.800 Very excited.

01:45:05.720 Very excited to talk to you.

01:45:06.920 Be excited.

01:45:07.380 Donald, tell me the last dude behind you.

01:45:09.620 What do you want to do next?

01:45:10.600 Uh, well, I intend to acquire the Commodore and I'm planning on making it the best and

01:45:17.180 the finest building in the city.

01:45:19.260 Maybe maybe the country in the world, Judy, in the world.

01:45:23.100 It's going to be the finest building in the world.

01:45:24.460 It's going to be spectacular hotel.

01:45:26.400 Absolutely spectacular.

01:45:27.960 First class.

01:45:29.380 And I got I got flair and I'm smart.

01:45:35.780 So I think that's going to make me successful.

01:45:37.660 But but I also want to stay humble.

01:45:40.720 I'm sorry, Judy.

01:45:42.840 Listen, let's do the rest in person and bring a photographer, OK?

01:45:48.320 Sorry.

01:45:49.200 No, I mean, listen, it's your life.

01:45:51.760 You got a ways to go, but you're learning.

01:45:55.240 My God.

01:45:56.520 Both of those guys nominated the guy who plays Trump, Sebastian Stan, as best actor, Jeremy

01:46:01.940 strong of succession fame, fame nominated for best supporting actor in a movie nobody saw

01:46:08.320 and nobody liked.

01:46:09.560 But they mock Donald Trump.

01:46:11.280 So you're in.

01:46:12.860 Duh.

01:46:13.600 It's incredible, right?

01:46:14.720 They're just so predictable.

01:46:16.360 Also, it seems to be a prerequisite.

01:46:18.320 The unwatched movie.

01:46:20.280 Yep.

01:46:20.600 Like it seems like the last I grew up, you know, grew up.

01:46:24.140 You'd watch the Academy Awards with your parents.

01:46:26.320 You know, I remember doing that.

01:46:27.300 You'd see all the movies like, oh, we need to see this.

01:46:29.040 We need to see that it's been like basically my entire adult life where I never watch it.

01:46:35.200 But if I ever like stumble through it and you see it on TV, you look at the nominees,

01:46:39.820 you know, I have no idea what any of that.

01:46:41.340 And it's sort of ironic, right, that the distribution of media and films has become so broad and so

01:46:49.280 easy to access and the Academy's focus has become so narrow and obscure.

01:46:54.120 Yeah, it's a great thing about that.

01:46:55.440 I think about how hard it was to see the Oscar films 30 years ago.

01:46:59.280 But we all did.

01:47:00.340 We saw the ones that got nominated.

01:47:01.700 Now it's like there's no chance.

01:47:03.540 It was like Forrest Gump.

01:47:04.960 Yeah.

01:47:05.300 You know what I mean?

01:47:05.880 Like Schindler's List, Braveheart.

01:47:07.480 Like these were films that won and had huge audiences.

01:47:10.860 What a wild business model for Hollywood to try to turn a profit.

01:47:13.780 Now when it's easier than ever to get your film in front of people's eyeballs, they could stream it.

01:47:17.560 But still people choose not to watch this and they're like, oh, because it's too good of art.

01:47:22.200 Tom Hanks would have had a transition midway through in order to get a nomination.

01:47:26.580 It's just like, you're right.

01:47:27.440 You've never even heard of these actors and you've never even heard of these movies.

01:47:30.660 And they're just like smaller and smaller and smaller, as is the audience.

01:47:35.080 Guys, thank you.

01:47:36.340 Thank you all for being here.

01:47:37.260 Great to see you.

01:47:38.320 Thank you.

01:47:38.840 You're the best.

01:47:39.460 Thank you so much.

01:47:40.960 All right.

01:47:41.360 And before we go, I want to tell the audience the ruthless guys had to run.

01:47:43.920 But one more thing on the Oscars, of course, Conclave got nominated.

01:47:50.780 Of course, of course, they nominated Conclave for Best Picture, the one that mocks the Catholics. 0.99

01:47:58.860 Spoiler alert.

01:48:00.080 OK, I hope you don't see Conclave.

01:48:02.460 So and I think you probably already know the spoiler if you listen to this show.

01:48:05.700 But it's about the pope and choosing a new pope and the conclave that the Catholic cardinals have.

01:48:11.360 And big reveal at the end, they choose a pope who's secretly a woman, who's so-called intersex. 0.99

01:48:18.920 And here's a little bit of that.

01:48:21.660 The truth is, there simply was no reason to think I was physically different from the other young men.

01:48:27.200 And then, in my late 30s, I had a surgery to remove my appendix.

01:48:36.980 And that was when the doctors discovered that I had a uterus and ovaries.

01:48:45.280 Some would say my chromosomes would define me as being a woman. 0.99

01:48:50.940 And yet I'm also as you see me.

01:48:54.460 All right, so Ralph Fiennes, he's nominated for Best Actor.

01:49:02.320 This film, of course, will be celebrated because they mock the Catholic Church.

01:49:08.880 Ha ha, joke's on you.

01:49:10.240 You have a female priest. 1.00

01:49:11.860 And don't take my word for it, because if you watch the thing, it's all about Stanley Tucci as a bishop who appears to be from New York or Cardinal,

01:49:18.900 saying, like, I will not abandon my position, that we need more women's rights in the church.

01:49:24.760 You know, he's one of these leftist Catholics who's trying to take a stand, and they lionize him,

01:49:29.840 and they make a mockery out of the Italian cardinal who's more conservative and who's more traditional. 1.00

01:49:35.620 And they make him into a fool, a buffoon. 1.00

01:49:38.000 And that's what they do to the entire Catholic Church by making, surprise, their new pope into a woman. 1.00

01:49:45.720 Okay, it's just ridiculous. 0.99

01:49:47.740 So you can see exactly what they're doing. 0.99

01:49:49.440 This is their night to stand up and celebrate how much they hate Catholics, 0.99

01:49:54.000 how much they believe men can become women, and how much they hate Donald Trump.

01:49:58.660 Whether they say it explicitly or not, perhaps there will be a directive not to make the speeches political.

01:50:05.020 Much like the Golden Globes, the underlying content that will be rewarded that night

01:50:09.280 tells everybody who is right of center they can't stand you.

01:50:14.520 Maybe keep that in mind when you're deciding whether or not to watch it.

01:50:18.460 Thank you guys for watching.

01:50:19.860 We are back tomorrow with Piers Morgan and more.

01:50:22.940 See you then.

01:50:23.300 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

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The Megyn Kelly Show - January 23, 2025

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