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00:00:31.200 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:33.120 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.780 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.880 New battleground state polling released today from multiple outlets

00:00:49.140 reveals the race between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris.

00:00:52.620 is this tight? It's a duper duper tight. Oh, it's as tight as ever.

00:01:00.600 How could it be so tight? But it is.

00:01:04.060 The Washington Post shows Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, what are you doing?

00:01:10.240 Essentially tied.

00:01:11.660 While the latest New York Times Siena poll has Harris up four in Pennsylvania,

00:01:16.900 but that remains unchanged from last month. So it's not like a bump.

00:01:21.880 Most of these are within the margin of error. We don't know what's going to happen. That's the

00:01:26.980 bottom line. There appears to be zero debate bump for Kamala Harris, maybe like a teeny tiny

00:01:33.380 grain of salt. I mean, like it's really nothing. And on the campaign trail, President Trump held

00:01:39.500 a huge rally in New York. What's he doing in New York? New York? New York's not in play.

00:01:48.440 What's happening? Plus an appearance on the comedy news show, Gutfeld, which is so fun. Love Greg

00:01:55.400 Gutfeld. While Harris unveiled a new accent. Yes, she's Latina now, or is it Latinx? While speaking

00:02:03.400 to members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, we're going to get to it all and much more today

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00:03:03.500 Oh, thanks for having us. Great to see you.

00:03:06.740 So much goodness in store for you. She's latinx now. I don't, are you aware of Kamala Harris's latinx?

00:03:14.180 Let's just look at that. We'll start there. It's as good a place as any.

00:03:16.840 I sought three to kick things off. Oh, it's good to see so many friends.

00:03:21.460 Um, I love you back.

00:03:29.100 She sounds like Hilaria Baldwin. Why would she do this? Why? Why? You know, I'll tell you what I

00:03:36.160 think. She's an actress. She's playing a part. She, we don't know who this person is. You cannot trust

00:03:43.480 her. We don't know how she'll legislate or how she'll behave or who she is or what's at her core.

00:03:49.080 So she's just this chameleon who changes in front of whatever audience she's before. And that's

00:03:55.220 really scary because there will be very strong, powerful people around her. Should she get in

00:03:59.560 the white house pushing their agendas on her? And we have no clue who those people are. What do you

00:04:05.560 guys make of it? Yeah. I mean, look, I think it's like, it was the old culture club song,

00:04:10.360 the comma, comma, comma, chameleon. I mean, that's basically what she's got going on. And

00:04:14.600 the funny thing is, is you put her in any crowd and she basically just tries to reflect back what

00:04:19.340 it is that they want to hear. Right. But the problem is she's not even really very good at

00:04:23.800 that. And we were talking about this on the, our show this morning is every question, it doesn't

00:04:30.160 matter. She puts about four sentences together to buy time, you know? And what did you say? It was

00:04:35.460 like the verbal equivalent of. Yeah. It's like trying to fill the word count on a term paper.

00:04:41.620 Yeah. But it is sort of unclear. The longer this all goes on, I'm more unsure than ever. It's like

00:04:47.300 whether she is a communist and what she said in 2019 is what she actually believes or whether she's

00:04:52.760 a nihilist and she literally will just say anything because she believes nothing. And that's

00:04:57.400 really the scariest thing. Yeah. I mean, look, it might be a combination. She certainly will do

00:05:02.320 absolutely anything to get her a little further down the road. Right. And if it means trying to

00:05:07.740 consolidate a base, democratic constituencies, she's going to be what she wants to be. She has

00:05:14.000 to win a general election. All of a sudden, all the positions she's taken over the last 15 years,

00:05:17.740 we're not even going to answer about it. I mean, you got to respect at least the brazenness of it

00:05:22.100 all. It is pretty. It's like she's a true politician's politician. She is like the anti-Trump. Like

00:05:28.160 Trump is very bad at being a politician sometimes when he needs to be like he is who he is and he's

00:05:34.020 going to tell you exactly what he thinks. That's why people love about him. Yeah. And she is the

00:05:37.900 inverse of that. Yeah. You had yesterday Kamala Harris to the NABJ. When you are bestowed with a

00:05:44.540 microphone, there is this concept of public trust to understand what the public trust means. It means

00:05:55.020 that you have been invested with trust. And I will give you today's edition of the Kamala Harris

00:06:03.680 inanity in SOT4. But don't necessarily have the resources to do everything their child needs.

00:06:12.140 I grew up understanding the children of the community are the children of the community.

00:06:17.500 I mean, you're right. You're right.

00:06:24.340 It's so bad. I mean, like, it's so bad that it really does feel like it's a fictional comedic set.

00:06:32.420 Yeah, it really does. And she also this thing, I'm sure you guys have noticed it,

00:06:36.860 where she sort of slows her cadence so that she sounds authoritative,

00:06:41.320 even though she's not really saying anything. She's like that person who is the boss in your

00:06:46.420 office and you're sitting in a meeting and everybody sitting there is like,

00:06:49.840 why is this person in charge again? And they just slow down because they think what they're saying

00:06:56.020 is somehow meaningful. And everybody is texting about what an idiot they are.

00:07:00.900 Except heavy HR vibes.

00:07:02.740 Right. I mean, it's not, you don't get a lot of that out of the C-suite, heavy HR vibes out of that.

00:07:08.060 Yeah. That's totally true. But she, she really, I think she thinks like she is some sort of

00:07:13.680 authority, you know, like she, if she slows down and if she adds the appropriate filler,

00:07:20.880 you know, you know, she adds that a lot too, right? Doesn't she, you know, you know,

00:07:26.060 like we can be unburdened by what has been, you know, you know, anyway, she's more in love with

00:07:34.760 the sound of her own voice and her accomplishments than we even knew. This surfaced earlier online.

00:07:39.880 And then we went back and just took a dive. And she's been saying this over and over for years.

00:07:47.320 Here's a little piece of what Kamala Harris thinks about Kamala Harris. Sot 43.

00:07:52.780 You know, I was the first person to be a woman at the Attorney General of California. I was the

00:07:58.000 first woman to be elected District Attorney of San Francisco. I was the first person of color to be

00:08:01.820 elected Attorney General of California. Whatever. First, first, first. Welcome to the role model

00:08:06.600 club. It's tough. Being a part of the role model club means being in a room where sometimes you may

00:08:16.060 be the only person who has had the experiences you've had. Oh my Lord. The best part, the best part

00:08:22.700 of that clip, Megan, is her, and the crowd's like, yeah. Nobody laughs. That was Jan 16. We found at least

00:08:30.700 four or more in like two minutes. We did a search. She loves this phrase. She is the role model.

00:08:36.240 She's in the role model club. Why again? Because of her lady parts and her skin color. That's truly

00:08:42.680 what she say. Yeah. Well, I have a vagina and I have the following skin tone. Yay for me. No wonder

00:08:49.500 people felt uncomfortable. It's like an elevator pitch, but also with vocal fry.

00:08:55.040 Like I didn't notice that until you played it, Megan. But like when she's like feels weird about

00:09:02.040 the thing she's saying, sometimes she adds in kind of this vocal fry.

00:09:07.700 Like she's somehow straining to say the thing, like to your point, she is this well-practiced

00:09:14.440 and she has said it thousands of times, but she pretends like it's the first time she's just

00:09:19.100 thinking of it. It's like emotion. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Have you seen that clip online

00:09:24.800 where it shows her like, I'm from the middle class. I'm from the middle class. I'm from the

00:09:28.560 middle class. You know, I'm a prosecutor as a prosecutor. I'm a prosecutor, you know, um, my

00:09:33.960 opportunity economy opportunity. Like she's got her lines like an actress and she delivers them.

00:09:41.140 We don't have any idea who this person really is, but we have some clues from 2019 when she actually

00:09:49.180 had to say some policy positions and run for office on her own. And she's about as far left

00:09:54.640 as they come. Everything other than that, we have no idea. Yeah. I mean, well, to me,

00:10:00.780 I think Kamala Harris kind of embodies the very cynical, nihilistic completion of where the

00:10:07.840 Democrats have been headed for a while. Like right now, everyone in this country is asking

00:10:12.220 who's running the country. We only see Joe Biden sitting on the beach. It's because Democrats have

00:10:16.860 come to accomplish what they've always wanted. Just an administrative state that runs itself,

00:10:21.560 that spends taxpayer money, that makes sure them and their groups get all their pockets stuffed

00:10:25.960 with taxpayer cash. They've tried to buy votes by having student loan forgiveness. You name the

00:10:31.880 green program. They spent what? $55 billion on rural broadband and not one person has gotten

00:10:37.100 internet as a result of it. Yeah. $20 billion to build these like, uh, electric vehicle stops,

00:10:42.180 not a single one to show for it. Yeah. It's like, it's like the policy agenda is just the window

00:10:46.080 dressing for their ultimate agenda, which is just power. And so Kamala Harris fits perfectly into

00:10:51.480 that. She, in her own mind thinks, Oh, I'm in charge here. I'm the boss. And meanwhile,

00:10:56.920 they're just like, have that idiot read a couple of lines. And I think we can make it through November.

00:11:01.600 Yeah. She's, she's exactly right though. That's, she's mentioning the thing that did get her ahead,

00:11:08.620 to be honest. You know what I mean? She's exactly right. She knows those two things work. And so once

00:11:14.860 they get her, her next role, her job is to then turn around and say, I mean, normally you don't say

00:11:21.340 I'm a role model. Everyone sees me as a role model. Okay. But, but that's kind of right on brand.

00:11:28.620 Look, remember, look at all the things that I have, my lady parts, my skin tone. And in case nobody told

00:11:35.140 you I'm your role model. Okay. So, all right. So we're being gaslit by her, by the people around

00:11:44.620 her and pretty much by all top Democrats. Nancy Pelosi gives an interview and gets asked about

00:11:52.260 the absence of a primary. The fact that this woman who could be our next president has never received

00:11:58.200 a single vote from an actual regular voter to be president. And here's what she says.

00:12:06.100 You had reportedly said you wanted a sort of an open primary when Joe Biden stepped down. Did

00:12:12.880 you change your mind because you saw all the excitement around Kamala Harris?

00:12:19.680 No, I didn't change my mind. We had an open primary and she won it. Nobody else got in the race

00:12:24.260 because she was mentally a student. And that was the thought.

00:12:31.020 I mean, here's the thing. The Soviet Union had tons of elections. Just no one else would run.

00:12:37.460 Right. And Kim Jong-un with those who didn't want.

00:12:41.160 It's amazing how they, they look us in the face and lie to us like Chuck Schumer. It was bottom up,

00:12:48.260 bottom up. It was ground up. Even Gavin Newsom was like, it was bottom up, right? That's what,

00:12:52.560 that's what they told me I'm supposed to say. She's bold faced. Yeah. It was an open primary.

00:12:59.780 She won it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they laugh about it. It's because like we've said this on the show

00:13:07.600 a number of times is that essentially the Democrats don't believe in anything, any ideas that might

00:13:13.820 separate people. They just believe in hierarchy. Right. And they like rubbing it in the face of

00:13:17.700 everyone. And so Nancy Pelosi has been walking around everywhere for the past couple of months

00:13:22.200 being like, that's right. I pick who runs around this town.

00:13:24.920 Yeah. It's also, I mean, look, if you're, we are sort of cynical, obviously we've been in this line

00:13:29.580 and work for a while. And, and so when you look at debate answers or answers to the few journalists

00:13:34.540 that she appears in front of, and they ask her about something like inflation and she goes into the

00:13:38.660 stem winder about growing up a middle-class child. And then, you know, whatever she can do to fill

00:13:43.420 time to get out of that answer, because obviously she's responsible for the inflation the American

00:13:47.660 people have suffered through. If you were running for president for the right reasons, if you just

00:13:51.840 wanted to be president, because you think you can do some things for the American people,

00:13:56.440 wouldn't it bother you to be presiding over inflation like that? Wouldn't you want an answer

00:14:02.200 like much less surviving the debate and trying to provide, you know, some electoral edge against your

00:14:08.660 opponent? Wouldn't it be important to you to do something about it? Like, wouldn't it be important

00:14:12.760 to have a border plan? Like all the things that have sort of beset our country as a result of

00:14:19.120 the administration that she serves in, you would think if you were running for president, you'd be

00:14:23.020 like, yeah, we'd screwed a lot of that stuff up. I want to do something different. Let me explain it

00:14:26.060 to you. That would be a real candidate. Well, you'd also be bothered that you were anointed because

00:14:31.520 Joe Biden's dementia showed up on national television. You didn't actually have to go out and earn a single

00:14:36.300 vote, but I think I would take it actually one step further. Of course, there was no open primary in

00:14:41.100 2024 for the Democrats. They anointed her. But like, there really wasn't an open primary in 2020.

00:14:47.440 I mean, the powers that be got together in South Carolina and decided that Joe Biden was the best

00:14:51.280 candidate to take on Donald Trump. You could make the argument about 2016. Just ask Bernie Sanders

00:14:56.560 supporters. Exactly. Absolutely. I mean, there is a long history of this in the Democratic Party. And

00:15:00.840 not only did they anoint Joe Biden in 2020, they got Klobuchar and Buttigieg. Yeah. All to endorse.

00:15:07.620 Everyone to drop out and endorse. And what? He had come in like fifth place in like Iowa and in New

00:15:13.960 Hampshire. Michael, you just don't understand. They were trying to save democracy by shortchanging.

00:15:19.900 There is the Greek tragedy of Joe Biden, dementia patient with an ego bigger than Washington, D.C.

00:15:26.100 is the same power structure that rigged the game for him in 2020 is the one that dethroned him in

00:15:31.700 2020. Oh, man, that is beautiful. Yeah. That is beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. I mean, in Joe Biden's

00:15:38.920 defense, I've never heard him say I'm a role model. I'm a member of the role model club. Here's everyone.

00:15:44.360 I'm your role model. Follow me. I'm someone to be admired in case you didn't know. Well, I'm sure we're

00:15:49.720 going to be hearing a lot more of that in her little sit down with Oprah Winfrey tonight. So what we have

00:15:54.180 is a vacuous person whose true identity we really don't understand. She she what does she stand for?

00:16:01.800 We have clues in 2019. She sounds very radical. But since then, and certainly since she became the

00:16:08.280 nominee, it's just a game of cover up. It's just cover and deny and obfuscate and not sign on to any

00:16:17.200 earlier policy prescriptions. And like that one thing that Trump raises the debate is a good example

00:16:23.100 where he was like, she wants taxpayers to pay for gender identity or sex change operations for

00:16:28.480 illegals and prisoners. 100% true. He gets erroneously fact checked again by people like

00:16:36.280 Susan Glasser at The New Yorker and Time magazine, who Time magazine had to undo its fact check once it

00:16:43.820 realized, holy shit, she really did say that in 2019 on an ACLU questionnaire. Oh, my God,

00:16:48.420 they can't believe it's so radical. Even for them, they can't even believe it. But but then the other

00:16:54.440 the other fact checks come out from like the New York Times, the Washington Post, and their fact

00:17:00.200 checks are. We're we're not sure if she still has that position. She has not needs context. That's

00:17:09.080 what they're saying, because when they went to her campaign, the campaign guy was like.

00:17:12.780 She didn't say that since becoming the nominee and newspapers with supposed actual journalists

00:17:22.040 accept this as a reason to add context. Well, it's not something she has said like within the past two

00:17:29.720 months. So nobody knows who could know. It's amazing. And then like to add a layer to it when confronted

00:17:39.820 the very few times she has on those questions provides no clarification. We were talking about

00:17:44.940 on the show a couple of weeks ago about how easy it is from a communication standpoint to build in

00:17:50.060 a little layer where you turn from the position that you're in saying like, well, look, I was from

00:17:55.340 California. This is the way we saw the world. But as vice president, I traveled to Pennsylvania,

00:17:58.980 spent a lot of time with people and understand the fracking is an important American industry.

00:18:02.620 And it allows us to ultimately be independent of foreign sources of energy. Like that's a very easy

00:18:09.440 answer that she can't give. Why is she not giving it? One, she's rhetorically challenged, but two,

00:18:14.520 and more importantly, is she doesn't want to piss off the left. That's the issue. So like for people

00:18:21.680 who are trying to like, I don't know who this lady is, let me just tell you who she is, who she is,

00:18:26.300 is trying to win a general election. That's who she is. She will do absolutely anything to win it.

00:18:31.960 If she were to win a general election, what you've seen with the last, I don't know, dozen

00:18:37.180 Democratic presidents is their first quarter of the first year that they're president, their

00:18:42.720 constituency goes from the entire country to the left to try to work on behalf of the people that

00:18:47.640 they see were the most helpful to their campaign to get them there in the first place. Joe Biden ran

00:18:52.120 as a moderate. Joe Biden ran as a caretaker. He was like a New Deal Democrat during the first 90

00:18:58.900 days of his administration spent like $5 trillion. What do you think Kamala Harris would do?

00:19:04.620 And that's the thing is, you know, if you look at her Senate record, she was the most liberal

00:19:10.060 voting member of the Senate to the left of Bernie Sanders. And I think Bernie Sanders gave the perfect

00:19:14.820 answer to where she stands on things. He said, well, you know, she's got to get elected. The

00:19:20.620 understanding is that like, yeah, she can't really say she's crazy folks or else we don't get the

00:19:25.220 crazy stuff. Yes. And now, so now you have Hillary Clinton coming out. She's on some

00:19:31.260 rancid book tour and, um, she sits down with the vile Kara Swisher. Someday I'll tell my Kara.

00:19:40.560 Someday I'll tell my Kara Swisher story. Um, and excuses the absence of any policy positions

00:19:50.320 coming from this woman. It's like not something that we need to worry about. According to Hillary

00:19:55.280 Clinton and sought 23. He does not have to do it, Kara. I'm going to just cut to the chase. In fact,

00:20:02.080 she's put out policies on her campaign website. Anybody who's truly interested can go and read

00:20:07.520 about them. She referenced policies. She actually doesn't just have policies and concepts. She has,

00:20:13.380 you know, plans about what to do. I think it's a, um, you know, it's a double standard and it's a

00:20:19.800 double standard that, uh, is partly because they are still getting to know her, but also because

00:20:26.160 they're still grappling with the idea like, Oh, am I really going to vote for a woman to be president

00:20:31.020 and a commander in chief? Real double standard. People want to know what the president is going

00:20:37.460 to do. Is it misogynist now? If you want policy, if you want her to explain what she's going to do for

00:20:44.740 the economy, it's because she's new to this. What? I don't even understand what she's saying,

00:20:49.160 but of course she's got to inject the woman thing in there back to, I have a veg. I'm a role model.

00:20:57.180 I, I, you know, I, I really, I really, I love that audio. You know, I think Hillary Clinton made

00:21:05.180 a lot of really great points about misogyny and double standards. And I think she should be the

00:21:10.680 Harris for president campaign surrogate in Wisconsin, where she was so popular in 2016.

00:21:16.740 Such a crazy dichotomy. Cause like, I kind of liked hearing her husband lie to us. Yeah. You

00:21:21.460 know, it kind of felt good, but it sort of felt good. Hers is just so great. I mean, almost everything

00:21:27.920 is just so terrible. And that must really irk her. It was. She was like, he's such a lying

00:21:34.460 bastard. They like him for it, but they, they don't, they don't have all sorts of reasons

00:21:40.780 to dislike him. So Democrats out there, fake Kamala, right? Like avatar, whatever you want

00:21:48.580 to call her, but just, there's nothing to connect to. Even at that NABJ thing she went to yesterday

00:21:53.540 or the day before yesterday, we played it yesterday where, you know, they asked her,

00:21:57.380 how many ways are you joyful? Like what makes you joyful? I mean, I threw up on my mouth.

00:22:02.940 Um, when she turned to walk away, it was actually really interesting. I don't know if you, like

00:22:07.740 she shook their hands and she turned on a dime was out of it to the point where even the, the black

00:22:13.220 journalists, the three who are interviewing her were like, well, well, I guess she's gone. She's

00:22:17.840 leaving like absolutely no charm, no ability to like show we've had a connection here. And this is

00:22:25.000 really cool. Thanks for having me just, I'm out of here. Peace out. We'll, we'll lay the video in

00:22:29.860 later. Forgot to ask my team to pull it. Um, but just contrast that with Trump who for some reason

00:22:36.420 had a rally in New York. I don't know why he's not going to win New York, but Oh, I mean, you guess

00:22:41.580 you never know. And there's lots of thoughts from this appearance cause it's quite amazing. But the

00:22:48.060 one I want, hold on. I want the one where he's talking about, hold on. Where is it? The guy

00:22:54.740 telling the, the Harry talking about Harry. Do you guys have that? Yes. Let's listen to

00:23:01.420 side 12. We can do all of this and more, but patriotic New Yorkers must get your asses out

00:23:08.800 to vote. Harry, get up, Harry, Harry, get your fat ass out of the couch. You're going to vote

00:23:19.200 for Trump today, Harry. Get up, Harry. Come on, let's go. Let's go, Harry.

00:23:31.640 Just love it. It's a great job. It's amazing. That's the thing. He's funny. He can make fun

00:23:40.760 of himself, of us, of, you know, the country if he needs to. People appreciate that that's

00:23:47.500 who he is. He's the other stuff too, but that's who he is. That's charming.

00:23:53.300 Yeah. I mean, he sounds like a human, which is just after you see those Kamala Harris clips,

00:23:58.080 it's so jarring because he's able to connect with people. Like you'll see media people being like,

00:24:03.620 how, how, how do people think that a billionaire is relatable? That's why he talks like people talk

00:24:09.140 to each other. Not like, Oh, we'll undo the memory of the past. Like no one can relate to Kamala Harris

00:24:13.920 whatsoever. When he says that you think of, you know, I know a buddy like a Harry who never votes,

00:24:18.520 you know, it might be a good idea to tell him, Harry, get off your ass this year. You're going

00:24:22.460 to vote. Everyone laughed because everyone can relate to that. So, I mean, he's, that's a brilliant

00:24:27.720 maneuver by him. And also the reason I think he's in New York, it's actually, that's brilliant too.

00:24:33.700 That's where we're going to pick up house seats. That's where we're going to defend house seats.

00:24:36.320 And when he becomes president, we need the house. So he's showing up at that rally that energizes a lot

00:24:42.040 of those voters, like all through long Island. Yeah. Those people are going to be juiced and

00:24:45.460 ready to go. Yeah. I mean, in 2022, our majority was basically entirely banked on the gains in New

00:24:52.260 York and California that we had, you know? Yeah. That's what he's doing. Yeah. Because he was in

00:24:56.900 long Island, which is, uh, they actually can win long Island. It's it's that's where we have

00:25:01.820 Republicans on long Island and Staten Island and up North where I grew up. Um, it's the city that's

00:25:07.860 blue as blue can be. Here's a little bit more. So when he shows up, I mean, like a boss,

00:25:13.000 they were really happy to see him. Take a look at the reception you got in Saudi.

00:25:20.340 Look at the number of people there, you guys.

00:25:21.860 right. It's incredible.

00:25:51.860 It really was 16,000. I'm sure Trump is online right now saying it was 160,000, but it was a lot.

00:25:58.440 It was a lot either way. But you know, I think one of the things that Trump has,

00:26:02.140 that's really, really hard to find in anyone. And certainly is like a great contrast with Kamala

00:26:08.600 Harris is that he's got multiple gears. He does the stadium tour and the big stage stuff and he's

00:26:14.720 funny and he's witty and he's got all this stuff, but he's also really, really good in a room full of

00:26:20.080 eight people. Yeah. You know, and the people who've spent time with him, maybe the, for the

00:26:24.460 first time in a small room, like they come away with a real positive impression of him. Like,

00:26:30.500 have you ever heard of anyone being like, Hey, I went to meet with Kamala Harris today and we sat

00:26:35.840 on her couch and man, she's just the best. Yeah. Look what happened with the teamsters.

00:26:40.860 Yeah. Right. Right. They had one meeting with her. They were like, for the first time ever,

00:26:46.080 we're not going to endorse the Democrat. Ashbrook always makes this point because it's sort of like

00:26:52.360 it comes up every cycle is like, let so-and-so be so-and-so. And Kamala Harris is like the only

00:26:58.980 candidate in history where you never hear that advice. Just let Kamala be Kamala. It's like,

00:27:05.140 please. No, dear God. We only have 45 days. Don't let her do that. No, there's an Axios report out

00:27:11.400 today talking about how the plan is keep her and walls the hell away from the press. And you have

00:27:18.600 to admit it's a good plan. It was 100% what you guys would be via advising if she brought you in

00:27:23.780 on how to win. Am I wrong? Oh yeah. I mean, if you have that dumpster fire, that's just waiting to

00:27:28.860 be ignited with gasoline. No, you hide that thing in back. I mean, there look, they did a version of it

00:27:33.860 with Joe Biden in 2020, uh, different reasons for her. It's like we were saying, I think the last

00:27:40.760 time we were together, Megan, the problem that she's got is there's no way to completely bottle

00:27:45.680 it up because any public appearance runs the risk of abject catastrophe. Cause she's just that

00:27:51.520 she's just that bad. They're just trying to mitigate the damage. But every time she walks out

00:27:56.660 of the front door of the, uh, Naval observatory where she lives up in the vice president's, uh,

00:28:02.000 residents, uh, it's a problem and they know it's a problem. And I think this is like, like home says,

00:28:07.900 this is a major problem because essentially this is an admission that that campaign can only play

00:28:13.680 defense. They just want to make sure there's not any more bleeding. They can just hold it out for

00:28:18.020 45 days. And then on the complete opposite side of the coin, you've got Trump going and doing

00:28:22.580 podcasts that you have millions of people listening to doing these stadium tours that you have tens of

00:28:27.220 thousands of people showing up to. He's actually going on offense, trying to gain ground, trying to

00:28:32.100 get more people on his side that are out there and who feel like this economy is terrible, the borders

00:28:36.360 in crisis. And all that Kamala's team can do is say, we got to run out the clock. We got to hope

00:28:41.260 we're at numbers enough that we can just watch the clock run out. But think about that. She can't even

00:28:45.780 talk about the job she wants. If you were interviewing somebody for a position and they can't even talk,

00:28:51.740 like if you were interviewing somebody to fill out spreadsheets for a living and they can't talk

00:28:56.080 about what they would do in that job, you'd be like, I'm going to find somebody else. She's not

00:29:00.100 trying to fill out spreadsheets. She's supposed to be in charge of the free world and she can't even

00:29:04.460 talk about the job. I mean, that is red flags are real. I feel like that's the sign. Everybody

00:29:11.980 is looking for the sign. That's the sign. That's it. So meanwhile, you got Trump who charms this crowd.

00:29:19.000 And I want to show you a little bit more of this Long Island rally because it was pretty extraordinary.

00:29:21.940 But before he went out there, he met with this little boy, Liam, who has made the news before

00:29:27.300 Trump, I believe, sent him a special birthday gift. It was a signed photo of Trump. And he was so sweet.

00:29:34.680 He was overwhelmed. And so this boy shows up backstage to the Trump rally. And he, as I say,

00:29:42.320 I believe it's a brain disorder that Liam suffers from, but clearly he's special needs.

00:29:46.460 And that can be awkward for some people to be around, especially, you know, a 78 year old guy,

00:29:52.080 maybe he'll know how to handle this. Maybe he won't. I've got to tell you, Trump did extraordinarily

00:29:58.040 well with this little boy. Um, take a look for yourselves. Watch what happened.

00:30:03.600 I'm supposed to be at that stage, but that doesn't matter because I got you the best president

00:30:08.980 you'll ever have. This is the best president you'll ever have. How are you?

00:30:12.980 Hi, mom. Hi. Okay, honey, this is yours. And in there is real good stuff. Okay? So beautiful.

00:30:21.380 Thank you. See? Look at that. Look at these great photographers. And we're going to have

00:30:26.940 that picture of her life. Okay? And, um, is she going to come out and watch me?

00:30:31.780 Of course. Because I left the stage in order to come and say,

00:30:34.800 you know, especially more. Okay, honey? So beautiful. So you take care of mom and dad?

00:30:40.800 Because that's your sister, right? So why don't you do this? Take care of yourselves. Okay,

00:30:46.940 I'm going to go right after you. Take care of yourself, honey. Okay? I wish I looked like

00:30:51.340 that. If I look like that, I'd be president.

00:30:52.840 You gotta love that. You, you, anybody, anybody who knows how to handle themselves around people

00:31:02.580 with disabilities is a very, very special person. And I feel like this is not a one-off thing for

00:31:08.540 Trump. I don't know if you remember the concert that was given a few years ago by a Jewish group,

00:31:14.460 and they sang just a beautiful rendition of America the Beautiful, I think. And then everybody

00:31:20.520 just ran over to Trump. Like all of these, all of these kids with disabilities.

00:31:24.420 It was all a Down syndrome and other disabilities that were part of that crowd, right? I mean,

00:31:29.120 that was the whole basis of the song. They finished the song and they all just sprinted towards Trump

00:31:33.820 and Trump's standing there hugging everybody. He wants to spend time with them. And I just think it

00:31:38.580 really reveals somebody's character. Yes. No, no question. It's pretty extraordinary range,

00:31:44.160 right? To be able to deal with sweet Liam in that very nice way where maybe you're not getting

00:31:49.540 verbal answers, but you keep the conversation going and you pay respects to the mother and the

00:31:55.500 sister. And, you know, and then also can go out there and say, Harry, Harry, get your fat ass off

00:32:01.880 the couch. I think it's called emotional range. Here it was at that same rally talking about the

00:32:09.700 assassination attempt that happened days ago. Take a listen to Sot9.

00:32:15.460 This could only happen with a woman because men aren't smart enough. I hate to tell you fellas.

00:32:21.300 And he was running, running, running. And a woman driving a car innocently said,

00:32:27.140 he looks like a bad person to me. He looks very suspicious. And she followed him and pulled up to

00:32:34.900 the back of the car and started taking pictures of his license. Can you believe that? Who the hell

00:32:44.160 would do that? Right? Only a woman. Pretty good. I did not know it was a woman until he said that.

00:32:53.100 Did you guys know it was a woman? No, I was new. What are they called news? Women's intuition. That's

00:32:58.540 right. No, it's a real thing. Oh man. But he's right. Who the hell would do that? If you see a

00:33:03.360 man running and he gets in his car and starts speeding away, like I might take a photo. I don't

00:33:08.740 think I'd follow the man. I'm not sure I'd follow. I don't know exactly how it went down, but, uh,

00:33:14.920 anyway, I love that he called it out and that, you know, he told the story and now we've learned

00:33:19.120 a little bit more. And he said, he really would like to meet her, which absolutely has to happen.

00:33:23.800 Um, we have to talk about the latest on the assassination and all that stuff. He,

00:33:28.840 he did add a little bit more on that. I'll, I'll let you hear it in thought 10.

00:33:33.180 And God has now spared my life. It must've been God. Thank you.

00:33:42.720 Not once, but twice. And there are those that say he did it because Trump is going to turn this

00:33:50.640 state around. He's going to turn this country around. He's going to make America great again.

00:33:54.640 And maybe

00:33:55.800 and we're going to bring back religion into our country.

00:34:07.060 These encounters with death have not broken my will. They

00:34:11.100 have really given me a much bigger and stronger mission. They've only hardened my resolve to use

00:34:19.700 my time on earth to make America great again for all Americans to put America first.

00:34:28.040 I gotta say guys, what do you notice there? He's on prompter and he's sticking to prompter

00:34:33.740 and thumbs up on that decision. That that's what we needed more of at the RNC and over the past eight

00:34:42.500 weeks. No question about it. It's a powerful message. It's undeniable, right? I mean, look,

00:34:48.740 I think there are elements of the electorate who have a hard opinion about Donald Trump for the

00:34:54.560 inverse reason that they don't see the kind of emotional range that we've just shown here in

00:34:58.560 the last five, six minutes. And they think he's hard to relate to. He thinks he's mean. They don't

00:35:02.220 like his tone or whatever. Watch that, you know, and in the context of the election that we're in,

00:35:07.920 the proximity to the election, election day, that stuff is really, really important because we're

00:35:13.640 talking about 50, 60,000 votes max in six or seven states. This is going to come down to somebody who

00:35:19.660 didn't vote for Trump in 2020 because they thought he was sort of a dick. And they see that kind of

00:35:25.580 thing. And it's like, well, I don't know, man, maybe God's plan is bigger here. Maybe this, you know,

00:35:30.420 it speaks to people in a different level. He keeps that kind of messaging around the traditional,

00:35:36.120 what everybody loves about Trump stuff. He can knit together a coalition here. It's not only going to

00:35:41.220 win, but I think it's going to surprise some people in some other states that they've written

00:35:44.420 them off in the Michigans, Wisconsin's, Arizona, you know, other places in Pennsylvania, which looks

00:35:49.960 tight as a tick. You know, I have friends, one dear friend of mine just said this to me the other day

00:35:56.000 who genuinely believe Trump will win because of that head turn that saved his life. In other words,

00:36:05.400 God saved him for a reason. And like, why would God have done that? You know, if he weren't going to win

00:36:14.060 this election, I realize what we need is people to actually get out and vote on November 5th and not

00:36:19.360 like you don't, you can't leave it in the Lord's hands, but it does feel like divine intervention. And I

00:36:25.780 think it was smart of Trump to raise that Republicans tend to be more religious, um, than the left. And he knows

00:36:33.560 the crowd he's speaking to it's more conservative in long Island. And I think he was on point to just

00:36:39.020 stick to the script there, deliver what was an important message about what happened to him,

00:36:44.520 you know, sticking to the prompter, right? Like he's obviously very comfortable off prompter,

00:36:48.280 unlike his opponent, but that led to a pretty poignant moment. And then when he swung by later

00:36:54.180 and visited the set of Gutfeld, he, in his typical self in a typical, you know, person personality

00:37:01.200 made fun of the whole thing a little, which is good. I mean, to me, this shows emotional

00:37:06.840 resilience, right? Like, cause if I had just been almost shot at, I would not even be in public,

00:37:11.720 nevermind at a rally and on Gutfeld, but here he is, uh, in SOT 14.

00:37:18.040 Mr. P, how's your golf game?

00:37:20.160 Well, uh, haven't been thinking about it too much lately.

00:37:23.800 It was, uh, I, I always said golf is a very dangerous game.

00:37:27.380 It really is. It really is. Especially if they're playing with you.

00:37:31.300 Yeah, that's true.

00:37:32.960 That's what, that was a mean joke.

00:37:35.140 Pretty sad.

00:37:36.320 Did you, if they had told you that the shooter was there,

00:37:39.620 would you have tried to take him out with your three wood?

00:37:42.940 I think so.

00:37:44.000 Yeah.

00:37:44.440 If I knew, actually the secret service did a great job.

00:37:47.520 They saw the barrel of a gun, big gun.

00:37:50.280 Yeah.

00:37:50.820 And it came out through bushes.

00:37:52.940 And how many people would see that first?

00:37:54.880 So, you know, he really was a very exceptional to have done it.

00:37:59.300 Hmm.

00:38:00.500 What do you make of it?

00:38:02.580 Well, it's gotta be an emotional journey for him at this point.

00:38:05.200 Yeah.

00:38:05.600 Right. I mean, I, I just, look, he's bigger than life.

00:38:09.080 He's been famous my entire life.

00:38:11.060 Um, he's been part of public eye.

00:38:13.180 He's been brash and he's the first guy who's famous for being famous,

00:38:17.020 but to have your life literally that close to ending two times in three months,

00:38:22.780 yeah, it's gotta give you a little bit of perspective.

00:38:25.760 Yeah. I love how he's able to do two things.

00:38:29.280 Like on Gutfeld, he's able to joke about it, which like has to be a coping mechanism.

00:38:34.000 I don't know how you could still run for president, let alone play golf again,

00:38:37.060 unless you could find the humor in the fact somebody tried to kill you.

00:38:40.340 But like back to your earlier point, Holmes, you know, he's also been able to see,

00:38:46.560 to, to use these attempts on his life as a way to make a positive case for his election.

00:38:52.480 And he has not been as strong at doing that in other cases.

00:38:56.780 He's always been really great at pointing out the failures of the system.

00:38:59.940 And that's why he was elected in 2016.

00:39:01.820 But this time's different because he's had the job.

00:39:04.280 Yeah.

00:39:04.480 And so making this positive case, this emotional case, that's going to get that swing voter and

00:39:09.320 the suburbs of Philadelphia to be like, I'm going to give Donald Trump another chance is so,

00:39:14.540 so important.

00:39:15.340 It's a good point.

00:39:16.700 You do wonder how he can maintain a good attitude given everything that's happened to him,

00:39:23.220 right?

00:39:23.640 The, the civil lawsuits, let's not forget that nutcase E. Jean Carroll.

00:39:28.320 Oh, she's going to sue me.

00:39:30.380 That's my opinion, E. Jean.

00:39:31.600 Um, she got $80 million.

00:39:34.380 Tish James, the AG who ran on a promise to get Trump, got almost $500 million.

00:39:39.640 He's fighting both of those on appeal right now.

00:39:42.160 The four criminal cases against him, the two impeachments, two assassination attempts.

00:39:47.660 You do wonder how does the guy still have a smile on his face?

00:39:51.200 But actually I figured it out.

00:39:53.600 I have the answer.

00:39:55.180 Um, I'm going to play it for you in SOT 40.

00:39:57.480 Why do I stand proudly behind my nude modeling work?

00:40:04.860 The more pressing question is, why has the media chosen to scrutinize my celebration

00:40:11.120 of the human forum in a fashion photo shoot?

00:40:15.320 Are we no longer able to appreciate the beauty of the human body?

00:40:19.380 Throughout history, master artists-

00:40:23.000 Thank you for choosing us again, Megan.

00:40:24.940 Evoking profound emotions and admiration.

00:40:28.140 We should honor our bodies and embrace the timeless tradition of using art as a powerful

00:40:34.920 means of self-expression.

00:40:38.500 You do it delivery.

00:40:40.180 You do it delivery.

00:40:41.260 I do do it delivery.

00:40:42.560 Yeah.

00:40:43.000 I mean, Melania Trump has been in a lot of nude photos.

00:40:45.460 They're all over the internet and she looks spectacular and here, for some reason, in

00:40:50.440 promotion with her book, she's chosen to remind us.

00:40:54.260 Here you go.

00:40:55.000 British GQ's fellas.

00:40:56.740 I mean, what do you think?

00:40:58.500 It's beautiful art.

00:40:59.720 Is it not?

00:41:00.780 Certainly not going to subtract votes.

00:41:02.700 I know that.

00:41:03.840 Smart, what's your tag?

00:41:06.660 Uh, I was recently in Florence and, uh, you know, I saw David that, that she showed

00:41:12.200 that clip and it really is breathtaking.

00:41:15.460 Uh, if you think you were going to get this crew to provide any critique of Melania's

00:41:24.120 nude modeling, I'm sorry.

00:41:27.100 I, my theory is that is why he is so joyful.

00:41:34.880 I think most men in America would be pretty joyful if they had Melania Trump waiting for

00:41:40.620 them at home.

00:41:41.720 It's as good an argument as any.

00:41:43.020 She's got a book coming out and everybody's like, she's not doing interviews.

00:41:46.360 How's she ever going to sell this book?

00:41:47.480 I'm like, she's smarter than the rest of us.

00:41:50.600 That's how she's going to sell the book.

00:41:52.520 You get a million tongues.

00:41:54.560 Wagging.

00:41:54.880 Um, all right.

00:41:56.100 So while on Gutfeld, Trump got into some subject substantive stories, and this one's actually

00:42:03.060 funny too.

00:42:03.960 It's about his one interaction with Tim Walls.

00:42:07.940 Listen here.

00:42:09.940 He called up years ago.

00:42:11.400 I was in the white house and he said, my house is being surrounded by people with American

00:42:16.260 flags.

00:42:16.760 I said, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

00:42:18.520 And he said, I think they're going to attack me.

00:42:20.700 He said, could you put out a word like that?

00:42:23.320 I'm your friend.

00:42:23.920 I don't even know him, but that's the only time I ever spoke to him long ago.

00:42:27.480 I put out a statement.

00:42:29.160 He's a good man.

00:42:30.120 The governor, he's on our side.

00:42:32.380 It's I don't, I didn't know him, but I didn't want him to get hurt.

00:42:35.240 And everybody put down their flags and they left.

00:42:37.740 He said it was a miracle.

00:42:39.020 He remembers it.

00:42:40.140 Actually, he was a little bit nervous.

00:42:41.960 And he said, we have one guard at the door and you have 15,000 people out there.

00:42:45.420 And I'm a little bit, I don't know.

00:42:47.040 They look violent.

00:42:47.840 I said, are they carrying the American flag?

00:42:50.220 They're not going to be violent.

00:42:51.160 Yes.

00:42:51.560 But I put out a statement and they, they just went back and they just, it was sort of a

00:42:56.520 beautiful thing in a lot of ways.

00:43:02.520 It's a great story to tell, right?

00:43:04.100 It makes Trump look mananimous and it makes Tim Walls look like a scared little coward.

00:43:08.600 Does it not?

00:43:09.080 And the conclusions are always so great.

00:43:13.080 That was a beautiful thing.

00:43:14.520 It was just a beautiful, great, beautiful thing.

00:43:17.280 It came to me, tears in his eyes.

00:43:21.120 Here's the difference though.

00:43:22.360 Here's another reason why it works.

00:43:24.320 It works because Trump understood Tim Walls felt like he was under threat and he stepped

00:43:31.020 in to save him.

00:43:32.960 And the Democrats right now fully understand that Trump is under threat.

00:43:38.060 And seemed to be cheering it on.

00:43:40.940 Yes.

00:43:41.420 Their language keeps winding up in the public musings of his would-be assassins.

00:43:47.380 And then when asked, might now be a good time to tone it down.

00:43:52.680 This was the Democrats message.

00:43:54.940 Did you see this remarkable exchange between Peter Doocy and Corrine Jean-Pierre at the White

00:43:59.780 House this week?

00:44:00.240 Watch this.

00:44:01.800 How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president

00:44:06.700 and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than threat?

00:44:10.300 Peter, if anything, from this administration, I actually completely disagree with the premise

00:44:22.000 of your question, the question that you're asking.

00:44:25.180 It is also incredibly dangerous in the way that you're asking it because American people

00:44:31.520 are watching and to say that, to say that from a administration who has consistently condemned

00:44:38.980 political violence from an administration where the president called the former president

00:44:43.600 and was thankful, grateful that he was okay.

00:44:47.540 I mean, so the problem is his question.

00:44:52.600 His question is incredibly dangerous to them.

00:44:58.260 That's how she turned it.

00:45:00.500 That's the thing is you, this is something that the Democrats for years have really focused

00:45:05.200 and honed in on is saying that speech is dangerous.

00:45:08.700 What you're saying is going to get people killed.

00:45:10.360 What you're saying is going to get people hurt.

00:45:12.140 They've been using this trick against conservatives saying that stochastic terrorism while ignoring

00:45:17.520 actual threats, actual violence, actual bullets being fired at Donald Trump.

00:45:23.680 They say, well, maybe he should tone it down.

00:45:26.860 Their attack on free speech, on letting Americans think what might be true instead of force feeding

00:45:34.720 them their own version of what's going on.

00:45:37.640 That's what threatens the Democrats.

00:45:39.480 Our words are violence and their violence is justified.

00:45:42.880 That's it.

00:45:43.480 That's exactly it.

00:45:44.120 That's the magic trick they pull.

00:45:46.400 It's true.

00:45:47.160 It's disgusting.

00:45:48.640 I mean, look, their media allies have actually made it even worse, right?

00:45:54.700 I mean, you sort of expect caustic language at the end of a general election for president

00:45:58.520 of the United States.

00:45:59.140 That just kind of comes with the territory.

00:46:01.000 But when you get like Lester Holt on NBC the other night, when they're talking about

00:46:05.400 another assassination attempt and their pivot to the next story is it comes amongst heated

00:46:10.700 rhetoric from J.D.

00:46:12.420 Vance, where now Springfield, Ohio, is under threat from potential bombs.

00:46:18.540 And it's like, first of all, the story wasn't true.

00:46:20.380 So thanks for putting that on headline nightly news for NBC.

00:46:23.860 But second of all, what is the campaign rhetoric of J.D.

00:46:28.120 Vance have to do with an assassination attempt on a guy who he's running with?

00:46:33.720 Right.

00:46:33.900 And what what he said right before what Josh described is we don't know the motive of the

00:46:40.080 shooter.

00:46:40.600 Yeah.

00:46:40.760 But everything you're hearing from Trump and Vance is bad.

00:46:44.980 Yep.

00:46:45.260 Like they they are ascribing a motive to the shooter for partisan purposes.

00:46:49.720 I mean, they're all Democrats.

00:46:50.780 We know they're Democrats.

00:46:52.720 How hard would it have been for Kareem Jean-Pierre just to say, you know what?

00:46:58.200 You're right.

00:46:58.980 Political rhetoric needs to be toned down in this country.

00:47:01.480 Just and end it there.

00:47:03.260 Nobody's nobody's going to falter for that.

00:47:05.220 She's certainly not going to get a bad write up in ABC or NBC.

00:47:09.180 To the contrary.

00:47:09.720 Nobody nobody's going to hit her for that.

00:47:13.240 So why does she feel the need to be so partisan from that from that podium?

00:47:19.320 Yeah.

00:47:19.500 What does it cost her?

00:47:20.600 The nerve.

00:47:21.160 Yeah.

00:47:22.120 The nerve, Duncan, for her to turn it around to say what you're asking is incredibly dangerous.

00:47:28.900 It's what's dangerous is you're bringing up that we continue referring to him as a threat.

00:47:35.960 Yeah, it is like I don't know if there's a better word to describe it.

00:47:39.700 The thing being gaslit.

00:47:41.160 A hundred percent.

00:47:41.680 Like they just stare at you and they reflect back and say what you're asking is dangerous,

00:47:46.980 like not the assassination attempt of a former president.

00:47:49.880 And it's like, how do you have a conversation with somebody who operates like that?

00:47:54.080 I mean, it's so incredibly disingenuous.

00:47:55.220 And to Ashbrook's point, like what would it cost her?

00:47:58.740 It would cost her nothing to be like, yeah, you know, it would be be valuable for us all

00:48:03.360 to tone down our rhetoric at times, period.

00:48:05.640 End of statement.

00:48:06.840 She's going to get a political fact, political fact, you know, for Pinocchios in two weeks.

00:48:11.420 Like, it doesn't matter.

00:48:12.480 You know, like why not just say that?

00:48:14.360 It's because she will.

00:48:15.400 She will get her hand slapped because right now that all the buzz on the Dem side is like,

00:48:19.160 we're not going to go there.

00:48:20.340 This is Trump's fault.

00:48:21.700 He brought it on himself.

00:48:22.700 That's the party line.

00:48:24.120 So she's afraid to say that.

00:48:26.160 You mentioned Lester Holt.

00:48:27.660 We played Nora O'Donnell, who refused to be outdone by Lester Holt and by Lindsay Davis,

00:48:33.860 who did the same thing over on ABC on Sunday night, the night of the assassination.

00:48:37.580 Listen to Nora, you guys.

00:48:39.920 Donald Trump is blaming Democrats for inflaming political rhetoric,

00:48:43.620 but the former president's own words seem to be increasing the threat of political violence

00:48:48.140 in Springfield, Ohio.

00:48:49.600 No, that's where a false and ugly accusation against Haitians,

00:48:53.520 thousands of whom are legal permanent residents, is impacting everyday life.

00:48:59.020 We already knew that the bomb threats were a hoax when she read that.

00:49:04.540 She just-

00:49:04.940 That's stunning.

00:49:06.240 It's just stunning.

00:49:07.280 I mean, look, it's going to get worse.

00:49:09.420 You know, I mean, your audience should know this.

00:49:11.080 It's going to get worse.

00:49:11.960 As bad as you think that clip is, as bad as Lester Holt was,

00:49:15.520 as bad as everything that you're seeing in the Washington Post, New York Times,

00:49:17.820 it's going to get worse.

00:49:19.640 They're going to try to wedge Republicans against the Trump.

00:49:22.400 They're going to try to say anything you could possibly-

00:49:24.820 There is no bottom of the barrel for this crew.

00:49:27.780 They will do whatever it takes to try to figure out a way to get Donald Trump the furthest place

00:49:33.640 away from this White House.

00:49:34.820 And they're going to do it every day, every minute until election day.

00:49:37.600 You could say they're ruthless.

00:49:41.720 Yeah.

00:49:43.700 That's what I'm detecting.

00:49:45.440 All right.

00:49:45.620 There's more to do on the assassination, and we'll do that right after this quick break.

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00:51:34.640 Guys, a bit of breaking news here.

00:51:40.320 It involves the North Carolina gubernatorial race, which we haven't been covering really

00:51:45.240 at all.

00:51:46.300 But we do watch these state races from time to time because they can, if there's, you know,

00:51:51.900 one person who runs away with it or one person who absolutely is engulfed in scandal, it can

00:51:57.660 depress the vote potentially for that party or inflate the vote for the other.

00:52:02.740 So this would be, in that category, bad news for the Republicans.

00:52:07.040 In that state, there is a retiring governor, Roy Cooper, who's a Dem, and the race to replace

00:52:14.080 him is between the lieutenant governor, Mark Robinson, a Republican, and the North Carolina

00:52:19.740 attorney general, Josh Stein, a Dem.

00:52:23.080 Mark Robinson has found himself engulfed in controversy.

00:52:25.780 He's made a lot of controversial comments that we already know about.

00:52:32.760 A lot of us first noticed him because we don't pay a lot of attention to the lieutenant governors

00:52:37.160 in the various states.

00:52:38.340 When this clip went viral or he was making a lot of sense about the gender issue, apparently

00:52:44.360 the sensible comments were not uniform on all subjects.

00:52:48.700 But here's just a reminder for our audience of Mark Robinson.

00:52:52.940 You can go to the doctor and get cut up.

00:52:55.840 You can go down to the dress shop and get made up.

00:52:59.540 You can go down there and get drugged up.

00:53:02.800 But at the end of the day, you were just a drugged up, dressed up, made up, cut up, man

00:53:10.520 or woman.

00:53:11.160 You ain't changed what God put in you, that DNA.

00:53:18.520 Well, that kind of sensible talking is what drew a lot of fans his way.

00:53:22.500 However, it looks like he's about to potentially be forced out of this race.

00:53:29.220 Publication, Carolina Journal, reporting now that sources with direct knowledge have spoken

00:53:34.680 to them on the condition of anonymity and said that Robinson is under pressure from staff

00:53:38.940 and members of the Trump campaign to withdraw from this race due to the nature of a story

00:53:44.780 that's about to hit tonight, which they say involves, quote, activity on adult websites

00:53:50.820 in the 2000s.

00:53:52.760 National Review also reporting on it, saying it involves sexual and race-related comments

00:53:59.560 in chat rooms.

00:54:01.780 So that's a little different than activity on adult websites.

00:54:05.540 We don't know exactly what the nature of the, quote, scandal is, but according to the

00:54:11.140 Carolina Journal, even Team Trump is distancing itself from him and potentially even pressuring

00:54:19.560 him to withdraw.

00:54:21.680 The Robinson campaign responded, the director, communications director, quote, whomever your

00:54:27.280 sources are here, it is complete fiction.

00:54:30.800 So they've been given, tonight is actually the deadline, it's the state deadline to withdraw

00:54:35.520 from the race.

00:54:36.840 And this is oppo research that was leaked to the media by his opponent, the campaign of

00:54:41.820 his opponent who leaked it to CNN and local Raleigh news outlet WRAL, expected to hit airwaves

00:54:48.120 tonight.

00:54:49.600 So is it important?

00:54:51.720 Do we care?

00:54:52.580 What do you make of it?

00:54:54.020 Yeah.

00:54:54.580 I mean, we care a lot, but you may or may not have noticed, but the Republican Party over

00:54:58.180 the last few years has run it into a touch of a candidate quality problem from time to

00:55:04.120 time.

00:55:04.460 This would certainly be one of them.

00:55:07.540 Look, North Carolina is a really important state.

00:55:09.560 The problem that you have is when you get down ballot and you're dealing with governor's

00:55:14.180 races, that it's not a Senate race there this year.

00:55:16.300 But if there's somebody who just lags the field significantly, it depresses turnout or at

00:55:20.420 least has the capacity to depress turnout in a very meaningful way.

00:55:24.060 And in a state where you need every last Republican vote for Donald Trump to get to 270 on the

00:55:30.000 Electoral College, any little thing like this is potentially extremely problematic.

00:55:35.600 I mean, Smug, you're from North Carolina.

00:55:37.200 What's the take?

00:55:38.320 I think there is among Republicans in North Carolina a lot of frustration because Republicans

00:55:43.920 have a supermajority in the state legislature.

00:55:45.820 They control the state house, the state Senate, and both Senate seats in North Carolina to

00:55:51.840 the United States Senate are Republicans as well.

00:55:54.520 It seems like for a while, governors just eluded part of the Republican majority in the

00:56:01.340 state.

00:56:01.780 And so for Republicans, the most important thing is to win.

00:56:05.300 They need to get the governor's mansion under Republican control because for so long, you've

00:56:12.280 seen the state start to take this like leftward tilt, which actually doesn't reflect the voters

00:56:17.040 of the people of North Carolina.

00:56:19.060 And so to Republicans, this hunger to win is I mean, it can't be overstated how badly we

00:56:26.660 need this race.

00:56:27.360 You see Donald Trump is neck and neck with Kamala Harris in North Carolina and voters tend

00:56:32.260 to break late in the state of North Carolina.

00:56:34.940 So while there's time, whatever decision needs to be made, whatever can lead to a win at the

00:56:40.860 top of the ticket and the governor's race needs to be done.

00:56:45.260 North Carolina is important.

00:56:46.700 The latest poll, which we were going to get to in this block, is from Emerson polling,

00:56:51.420 showing them neck and neck in these swing states in North Carolina.

00:56:55.440 Trump was up one in August.

00:56:58.240 Now it's showing a two point swing to Harris.

00:57:00.720 Harris up one.

00:57:02.020 All of that is within the margin of error.

00:57:03.780 And thus, there could have been absolutely no movement from August to now.

00:57:08.920 But anyway, for what it's worth, she's showing up one, which just tells us it's just as tight

00:57:14.040 as it could be there.

00:57:14.920 So every tiny movement could potentially matter.

00:57:19.860 Yeah.

00:57:20.220 I mean, no question about it.

00:57:21.800 Look, if this was the Democratic Party, that guy would be packing up the printer cartridges

00:57:26.620 right now, right?

00:57:27.980 With the Republican Party.

00:57:30.060 You know, look, we've had a problem when it comes to trying to figure out how to put our

00:57:34.100 best team on the field in some of these races over the years.

00:57:36.820 I think the Senate Republicans, who had a huge problem in 2022, corrected that under

00:57:42.060 the leadership of Steve Daines at the senatorial committee.

00:57:45.280 But it is a problem.

00:57:46.400 And if you leave these things to their own sort of merits, they often just don't work

00:57:50.520 out for you.

00:57:51.180 And this is one of the prime examples.

00:57:53.260 I think the only mistake Democrats made is if they really have the goods on this guy,

00:57:57.120 they should have waited till after the deadline.

00:58:00.280 But he's already trailing in.

00:58:02.540 You know, I mean, here's the thing, Meg.

00:58:03.720 He's behind, I think, by eight.

00:58:04.980 Yeah, this is a near double digit margin between where he's at the ballot and where Donald Trump

00:58:11.940 is on the ballot.

00:58:12.840 That in and of itself, before whatever this story is, hits, tells you about the quality

00:58:17.020 of this campaign that he's running.

00:58:18.900 You can't have it.

00:58:20.000 You can't have it in elections with stakes this high, where the American people and the

00:58:23.900 people of North Carolina's entire fortunes are riding here.

00:58:26.900 You can't, as a party, just sort of throw it up, let go and let God and hope something

00:58:31.680 works out in your favor.

00:58:32.760 Like these things take a lot of work to ensure that you get the right candidate match with

00:58:37.760 the right constituency in statewide elections, particularly purple states and ones that are

00:58:42.440 going to be ultimately very competitive.

00:58:43.860 I love the, uh, uh, I think it's a, it's a Goodfellas reference.

00:58:51.140 I can't have it.

00:58:52.100 Right.

00:58:52.680 I can't have it.

00:58:55.000 I can't have it.

00:58:55.820 Yeah.

00:58:56.140 Um, yeah, you can't have it, but you're about to have it.

00:59:00.240 And by the way, for what it's worth, the, uh, Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson's spokesperson,

00:59:05.420 Michael longer Lonergan told national review online just now that it is a quote, complete

00:59:10.300 fiction that Robinson will drop out of this year's North Carolina gubernatorial race.

00:59:14.800 Tough to know what to wish for.

00:59:16.340 Um, I guess he's going to do whatever he's going to do.

00:59:18.980 So it's kind of Megan, I will say at this point, I'll see your movie reference and I'll

00:59:25.080 raise you one with Bronx tale and, uh, tomorrow for Robinson, it's like Bronx tale where they

00:59:31.660 lock the door and now use can't leave mail-in ballots are going out tomorrow.

00:59:41.060 So, I mean, yeah, this is a very small window thing is probably baked.

00:59:46.560 Yeah, exactly.

00:59:47.780 Right.

00:59:48.140 It's baked.

00:59:48.700 And they probably did hold it until right now for that reason.

00:59:53.200 Right.

00:59:53.620 That just as long as they possibly could before they thought it was going to whatever.

00:59:57.020 I mean, look, it could be worse.

00:59:58.200 It could be something higher up the ticket, like Trump.

01:00:02.120 This is, you know, one gubernatorial race.

01:00:05.400 Things are, I just don't know whether North Carolinians who tend to be a little bit more

01:00:09.180 red statey, but you know, by history anyway, are going to hold this against Trump who hasn't

01:00:14.840 been appearing at rallies with this guy anyway.

01:00:17.280 And even JD Vance apparently had the sense to distance himself from him prior to this because

01:00:22.480 they did not appear to rally that when he was going to go suddenly the, the Lieutenant

01:00:26.940 governor got COVID, but they're, you know, I just, it seems like team Vance, Trump may

01:00:32.040 have known beforehand, like, this is not our best ambassador.

01:00:35.340 Maybe don't share the stage.

01:00:36.740 I think that's right.

01:00:37.840 But I mean, look, if you go in the, the way back machine, we've had this issue before

01:00:42.300 in 2012, when Mitt Romney was on the top of the ticket, uh, there was a guy by the name

01:00:46.080 of Todd Aiken in the state of Missouri who was running Senate there.

01:00:49.760 And he said some sort of unspeakable things about, uh, women's bodies and everything else

01:00:54.720 impossible to justify.

01:00:56.040 And there was a huge effort starting with Mitt Romney's team all the way down to try to

01:01:00.780 get him out of that race.

01:01:01.840 And he said similar things to what that spokesperson of Mark Robinson was just basically like, I won

01:01:06.600 the nomination, I'm going to go forward.

01:01:08.220 The end result of that was a massive shift where he was winning that race by 10 points.

01:01:12.840 He ended up losing it by 10 plus to a Democrat in a very red state, but he also dragged a

01:01:17.600 whole ticket down.

01:01:18.460 He made Missouri an incredibly competitive race when it really should not have.

01:01:23.060 And you can also argue there was some spillover effect.

01:01:25.540 I don't think that's going to happen with Trump just because Trump is so identifiable.

01:01:30.660 I mean, there's, there's no one that you can be like, well, Trump knows this guy.

01:01:34.080 So to that, therefore Trump has more baggage than he already has.

01:01:37.280 Like Trump's his own thing, you know?

01:01:39.420 So I don't think it's dragging Trump, but you can see with enthusiasm, there are segments

01:01:45.100 of the electorate to get really ginned up about governor's elections as you were talking

01:01:48.640 about.

01:01:49.160 And like, is there a little softening of your motivation?

01:01:52.360 Perhaps any softening spells trouble.

01:01:56.440 Hmm.

01:01:56.880 All right.

01:01:57.160 Let's go back to the Trump assassination attempt, which is already being memory hold

01:02:01.440 in so many corners of the media.

01:02:03.120 I mean, let's face it, virtually every single one, uh, they don't want to talk about it.

01:02:06.920 They're not interested.

01:02:07.540 Anything that makes Trump look sympathetic is not interesting to them.

01:02:11.980 Um, how is it going in the wake of now two attempts on the president's life to tone down

01:02:18.660 the rhetoric about him?

01:02:20.000 Let's check in back in with our old friend, Hillary Clinton, who said this on MSNBC,

01:02:25.540 within 24 hours of the assassination attempt news breaking the day before, 22, saw 22.

01:02:32.320 And sadly, the press is still, uh, not able to cover, uh, Trump the way that they should.

01:02:39.240 I don't understand why it's so difficult for the press to have a consistent narrative about

01:02:45.120 how dangerous, uh, Trump is, uh, you know, the late great, uh, journalist, Harry Evans,

01:02:51.700 uh, you know, one time, uh, said that, uh, you know, journalists, uh, should, you know,

01:02:57.880 really try to achieve objectivity.

01:03:00.360 And by that he said, I mean, they should cover the object.

01:03:04.040 Well, the object in this case is Donald Trump, uh, his demagoguery, his, uh, danger to our

01:03:11.120 country and the world and stick with it.

01:03:14.660 Americans need to understand that they have to take Trump both seriously.

01:03:19.660 And literally, he has said what he wants to do.

01:03:22.960 He and his, uh, allies with project 2025, uh, his desire to be a dictator, at least on day

01:03:30.020 one, all of that is in the public record.

01:03:33.000 Can't go back and give, uh, this very dangerous man, uh, another chance to do harm, uh, to our

01:03:40.800 country and the world.

01:03:41.920 Well, I don't understand why she can't find a consistently good hairdresser.

01:03:47.500 So we're all confused.

01:03:48.880 I was just going to say, like, did she put on a Madeline Albright mask?

01:03:52.980 Well, I mean, what happened there?

01:03:54.100 That's like, sometimes she looks quite good at the DNC.

01:03:57.360 She looked quite good.

01:03:58.200 Then it fell apart.

01:03:59.040 Whatever.

01:03:59.800 My point is, I don't think she got the message about the dangerous rhetoric guys.

01:04:04.560 Oh, she sure didn't.

01:04:05.740 I mean, what an inarticulate surrogate.

01:04:07.920 I can't even imagine that they would.

01:04:09.240 Wait, can I just say, and let's just be clear.

01:04:11.140 It's their message.

01:04:13.160 The Dems are the ones who say our words matter and can be dangerous and we have to be responsible

01:04:19.360 with them.

01:04:20.400 Even 13 years later, they can cause a madman to attack Paul Pelosi.

01:04:25.120 That's them who say they're the ones who say that.

01:04:28.680 You know, you know what I wonder is like, who's making Hillary Clinton still do this?

01:04:34.620 What you've been in the public sphere for so couldn't you just hang it up to shame?

01:04:40.420 Hang the jersey up.

01:04:42.100 Like, who needs another memoir from Hillary Clinton that she has to get out and do a meeting

01:04:46.240 to her for where we just need her musings on the politics of the day?

01:04:50.140 I mean, how pathetic is that?

01:04:51.840 Number one.

01:04:52.340 I have an answer to that.

01:04:53.780 I think I know.

01:04:54.360 It's it's purely speculative, but Hillary Clinton has a very weird and I think shitty marriage.

01:05:02.720 And I have lots of reasons to believe that, as everybody knows.

01:05:06.480 I don't think she has a husband who is in love with her or faithful to her.

01:05:09.760 And I think I can't really blame him because she seems to have accepted this behavior since

01:05:14.800 the inception of their marriage.

01:05:16.000 And so past this prologue, you're going to get what you tolerate, you know, what you

01:05:20.380 permit, you promote.

01:05:21.380 So she's in this marriage that is, you know, at best, loveless and at worst, hateful.

01:05:27.680 And she spent all of her daughter's upbringing away at work, at the law firm, in the White

01:05:37.880 House, running for office.

01:05:40.060 And Chelsea Clinton is not a nice person.

01:05:43.420 And I think really is just sort of getting along based on the family name at this point.

01:05:48.460 Remember her short stint as a Today Show correspondent?

01:05:51.000 It was like, just use the name to up and up.

01:05:53.120 That doesn't do anything for your ego.

01:05:54.480 So you're, you're, you're unable to affirm your, yourself, you need other people to do

01:05:59.680 it.

01:06:00.180 And so now she's got a daughter who, I guess, married a rich guy, but is struggling in her

01:06:04.220 own right.

01:06:05.040 Hillary's in a loveless marriage.

01:06:06.660 She probably doesn't have a lot of real friends, just people who are glommers.

01:06:09.780 And so she absolutely does have to write a fifth memoir and go on MSNBC and be told that

01:06:17.320 she's amazing and that she matters.

01:06:19.540 It's, and also the other thing, and I was Googling this because there was a rotating chyron

01:06:24.020 on that clip of MSNBC.

01:06:25.780 And every time I watch MSNBC, it feels like I'm opening a time capsule from 2016.

01:06:30.560 And in that rotating chyron and Hillary Clinton's on television, there was a promo for, from

01:06:37.660 Russia with Lev, a new documentary about Russia with Lev Parnas.

01:06:42.060 And it's like, how are we still MSNBC talking about Russia?

01:06:46.860 I mean, these people are so one note.

01:06:50.020 It's incredible.

01:06:50.520 That's Rachel Maddow's new documentary, Steve Krakow is telling me.

01:06:52.900 Unbelievable.

01:06:53.360 She's doing new documentaries on the Russians still.

01:06:55.980 It's still unbelievable.

01:06:58.260 It's unbelievable.

01:06:59.220 It really is unbelievable.

01:07:00.500 There's also, there's one more element to Hillary Clinton.

01:07:03.280 It was what you got to at the top of the show that Kamala's role model thing.

01:07:08.160 I'm the first woman.

01:07:09.120 I'm the first.

01:07:09.660 We had like an internal bingo game here about Hillary Clinton's speech at the DNC.

01:07:16.480 And like my first round draft pick is I guarantee that she says the name Geraldine Ferraro.

01:07:22.520 And the reason that she says the name Geraldine Ferraro is because she was obviously the first woman vice presidential candidate.

01:07:29.560 But then she'll use it as a way to talk about how she sort of broke these ceilings in order for Kamala to become the first woman presidential, you know, maybe president.

01:07:41.220 Yeah, it's like that, that thing that you always say, Holmes, we always talk about this, too.

01:07:45.860 Like when people rise during someone's farewell address in the United States Senate and they're ostensibly there to praise this man or woman for their incredible service.

01:07:57.880 But in fact, they just talk about themselves and how what they did help this person have an illustrious career.

01:08:04.400 It's like Chris Christie at the at the 16 RNC, right?

01:08:09.820 Wasn't that politicians in the world do this?

01:08:12.720 So if they go get like the only people who would ever consider making a eulogy to someone about the their efforts to be to help one segment of America.

01:08:21.560 And I just so intersected with the dead guy who helped my efforts.

01:08:25.340 And so therefore, good man.

01:08:26.920 Yeah, it's so true.

01:08:30.780 OK, so back to whether not one but two assassination attempts is tamping down the rhetoric on the Dem side.

01:08:36.420 This one happened the day before the second assassination attempt, but two months after the first one where Trump took a bullet to the head.

01:08:45.820 Has it tamped down the rhetoric?

01:08:47.240 Let's check in with our friends at MSNBC, Jonathan Capehart's show and a woman who goes by Democratic Party activist, Reverend Dr.

01:08:56.740 Jackie Lewis.

01:08:57.980 It is outrageous.

01:08:59.980 It's horrifying, but it's expected from a fascist authoritarian person who wants to create havoc in this country, who wants to take us to Nazi Germany.

01:09:13.980 Germany, I can't even talk Nazi Germany.

01:09:16.440 We exported we exported racism, fascism to Nazi Germany.

01:09:21.480 We exported it to South Africa.

01:09:23.480 Jonathan, we know how to do it.

01:09:25.400 We're good at it.

01:09:26.340 And let's not pretend that Donald Trump isn't exactly like Mussolini, exactly like Hitler.

01:09:32.240 He is that guy.

01:09:33.620 And we're not going to get what we want if we elect this fascist authoritarian weasel.

01:09:41.000 No notes.

01:09:46.580 No notes.

01:09:47.600 It's perfect.

01:09:48.940 That's absolutely the most insane thing I've heard yet.

01:09:52.220 It's it was absolutely insane.

01:09:54.100 She started with like the shocking but not surprising thing that like you hear from a lot of political spokespeople.

01:10:00.340 Then it just devolves into he's Hitler.

01:10:02.620 He's Mussolini.

01:10:03.920 We exported this to the other.

01:10:06.560 What?

01:10:07.200 With the doctor's coat on with the yellow line.

01:10:09.820 What's what does that mean?

01:10:11.500 I got to give a hat tip to Victor Davis Hanson for mentioning that.

01:10:14.620 That's where I learned about it from.

01:10:15.560 And he was saying because he's, of course, a truly like brilliant and very well informed historian.

01:10:21.200 And he said, I'll bet you anything that you act if you actually asked her to tell you anything about Mussolini or his background or his life.

01:10:28.940 She couldn't do it.

01:10:30.760 Here's her background.

01:10:31.840 FYI, senior minister at Middle Collegiate Church in New York City, which I think I have attended many times.

01:10:37.560 It was connected with my son's old school.

01:10:40.320 She's an activist, preacher, advocate for racial equality, economic justice and LGBTQIA plus equality.

01:10:49.560 Oh, my Lord.

01:10:51.840 Checks all the boxes.

01:10:52.940 Wow.

01:10:53.800 Yeah.

01:10:54.200 I mean, I'm still reeling.

01:10:56.860 Fellas, I don't think I mean.

01:10:58.940 And of course, does MSNBC say that's a lot?

01:11:02.220 You know, just got shot a couple of weeks ago, maybe.

01:11:06.720 No, no, it's fine because they believe it for the same reason.

01:11:11.860 You know, Trump protects Tim Walz when Tim Walz feels in trouble and the Democrats are the ones causing the danger for Donald Trump.

01:11:19.560 And they don't care.

01:11:20.960 They're lunatics twice have now tried to take him out.

01:11:23.620 I mean, they're still trying to tell us they don't know the political affiliation of the of the would be shooter on Sunday.

01:11:28.420 Right.

01:11:28.880 Like, also pay no attention to that bumper sticker.

01:11:31.680 It's 19 donations to vote blue.

01:11:34.280 Right.

01:11:34.500 It's we have no idea what they'll never know.

01:11:36.900 Donald Trump has been president before.

01:11:40.200 Like, that's the thing that is most shocking, that they're trying to use the same strategies they tried in 2015 and 2016.

01:11:46.560 It's like he was president.

01:11:48.440 Was this Nazi Germany while he was president?

01:11:51.040 You know, like, like, like, do people actually believe that?

01:11:55.540 I think they do.

01:11:56.680 And so this is the thing that we've discussed why Kamala doesn't talk about any policy or what she would do, anything like that, because the unifying message to their voters is Trump is Hitler.

01:12:08.020 Trump is Hitler.

01:12:08.620 And that's also why they can never backpedal on any of this rhetoric, because if they say, well, listen, we don't want to have, you know, any violence done to Donald Trump, then their voters will be like, wait a minute.

01:12:19.720 You told us 10 seconds ago this guy was Hitler.

01:12:21.840 If he's Hitler, should we get rid of him?

01:12:23.780 Yeah, that's why they can never backpedal, because their whole election, their whole message is based on the fact of telling their voters that you're going to die.

01:12:33.280 The world's going to end.

01:12:34.120 Trump is Hitler.

01:12:35.140 That's why you're going to vote.

01:12:36.120 Yeah, it's like bailing wire and duct tape to try to keep their coalition together in the first place.

01:12:40.360 And with this lady, some might call it the big lie.

01:12:42.760 Well, let's see.

01:12:45.320 Did she hold on, Megan?

01:12:46.560 Let's see if they got the message that Trump is Hitler.

01:12:49.560 She had, like, this export import.

01:12:50.360 Yeah, go ahead.

01:12:51.540 Yeah.

01:12:52.440 She was saying that we exported our hate to Hitler.

01:12:57.540 Did she mean import the other way around?

01:12:59.980 I have no idea.

01:13:01.160 Unless Donald Trump has a time machine, which many people have suggested.

01:13:04.140 Yeah, he's got to get in the DeLorean 28, right back to the 1930s.

01:13:08.640 I mean, it's just unbelievable nonsense.

01:13:11.040 Let's let's see if the message has spread.

01:13:13.480 Like, is this hate actually getting out there in a way that is, you know, potentially disturbing?

01:13:19.080 You could choose number one or number two assassination attempts, or you could just listen to C-SPAN in SOT 29.

01:13:26.060 Now, Louisiana, Willie, Democrat, good morning.

01:13:30.760 Good morning.

01:13:31.780 I just want to say I'm a very patriotic American.

01:13:35.260 I did 20 years in the military.

01:13:37.440 Two children of Vietnam, wounded in 1966, went back in 68.

01:13:40.900 And I look at myself and think about, we, as a military man, we pulled the clothes, we killed captains, destroyed, and then by all means available.

01:13:51.060 And I see we let this man, Trump, destroy America.

01:13:54.320 And I look at it and say, well, these two people had to step up and take that shot.

01:13:58.500 I'm 83, nothing to lose.

01:14:00.440 I'm sorry, Willie.

01:14:01.460 You're not advocating violence, are you?

01:14:04.560 Not violence.

01:14:06.080 I'm talking about defending my country.

01:14:07.800 All right.

01:14:09.180 Dan, in Louisville, Kentucky.

01:14:11.920 How about the look on that guy's face?

01:14:14.100 He's like, wait a minute.

01:14:16.980 Button.

01:14:18.280 Oh, there is such humor.

01:14:19.800 I don't know if you ever, like, we had to watch these shows when we were in the Senate because you'd have C-SPAN on.

01:14:24.020 They put the floor on at like 8, 9 o'clock, so you'd have to turn it on and they would do these call-in shows.

01:14:28.460 It is high comedy when you get into the end of the election season.

01:14:31.320 Because the whole gist of what they do is that they sit there, they read the news, basically, on screen.

01:14:36.580 Like, they got a newspaper, they're literally reading it to you.

01:14:38.980 And then they take calls.

01:14:40.360 And they take a Republican, Democrat, Republican, Democrat.

01:14:42.600 And there's always this guy that looks exactly like that guy that they had on there who's, like, earnestly staring into the camera.

01:14:47.780 And they're like, oh, yeah, call her from here.

01:14:49.420 And the guy, they inevitably lose their mind.

01:14:52.780 And watching the face of the guy when he understands he's got a live one on is one of the funniest things you've ever seen in politics.

01:14:59.620 I kind of expected him to push back a little, like, to be clear, you know, we are not calling for violence.

01:15:07.900 Do not listen to Willie.

01:15:09.340 Willie sounds like a psycho.

01:15:10.780 Like, maybe something like that.

01:15:12.280 I know it's a C-SPAN anchor, but my friend, you know, television person to television person.

01:15:17.960 Maybe just a word of, like, please don't.

01:15:20.260 Please don't.

01:15:21.380 That's all.

01:15:22.200 Nothing more than that.

01:15:23.900 That'll do it.

01:15:24.500 Also, also, maybe a quick call to the FBI.

01:15:28.200 Yeah, where exactly are you, Willie?

01:15:33.260 Just where exactly in Louisiana?

01:15:36.600 Walk us through it.

01:15:37.860 I know Holmes has got to go before the rest of you have to go.

01:15:41.220 And before he goes, I do want to get to these polls, OK, because I'd love to have everybody's take on them.

01:15:46.400 How do you feel about what's come out?

01:15:48.080 Because I read you some of the numbers on the, well, I gave you the North Carolina headline on the Emerson polling, but I'll just go down the list.

01:15:55.900 Pennsylvania, they have Trump up one.

01:15:59.160 In July, they had him up six.

01:16:02.520 In Georgia, they have Trump up three.

01:16:06.000 In July, this is against Harris, he was up six.

01:16:11.020 In Arizona, they have Trump up one.

01:16:14.460 In July, he was up eight.

01:16:18.580 In Wisconsin, Trump is up one.

01:16:21.000 That's the same result as July.

01:16:22.920 In Nevada, it's a tie.

01:16:25.340 They don't have July polling.

01:16:26.340 They only have August.

01:16:28.080 Harris was up one.

01:16:29.980 North Carolina, we went over.

01:16:32.160 It's Harris up one.

01:16:33.500 And Michigan, they have Harris up two.

01:16:36.420 In July, it was Trump up three.

01:16:39.680 Now, you could make a good argument that this is not going in the right direction for Trump, right?

01:16:43.580 If you just want to look at, like, directional polling, as opposed to just today's snapshot, I think you'd be feeling better if you were on Team Harris.

01:16:52.120 But what do I know?

01:16:53.540 You guys tell me.

01:16:55.200 I think there's three different lenses that you have to put on today's polling in order to give it the proper context.

01:17:00.600 The first lens is 2020, the last time that Trump was on the ballot.

01:17:03.800 And what do those polls look like vis-a-vis Biden and what turned out to be a very close election?

01:17:09.360 The second is the Biden numbers, many of which you just read in those July polling numbers, where Trump had this just magnificent lead over a clear invalid who had, like, basically defecated on himself in a debate stage, right?

01:17:23.500 I mean, this is, like, it'll only be the high watermark for any Republican, let alone Donald Trump.

01:17:29.660 And then the third lens is what does it look like from the time that Kamala Harris got in the race through the DNC convention?

01:17:36.100 By all three of those lenses, he's better than he was in 2020 by a long shot, three, four points per state, some even more than that.

01:17:43.140 For the Biden late matchup in late June and early July, it's clearly a step back.

01:17:50.740 But you've got a brand-new candidate who's ran a coronation campaign for 10 weeks.

01:17:54.820 Much of that kind of comes with the territory.

01:17:58.040 But the third piece that I think is most important is that she was riding this incredible high through the DNC that began to fade just after Labor Day.

01:18:07.540 And it's settled into this remarkable place where it looks an awful lot like the race you thought you were going to get in September of 2023.

01:18:15.620 This is just going to be a tight election.

01:18:17.860 We know what these candidates and how the American people have broken down over the last several cycles.

01:18:23.320 It is just going to be a nail-biter.

01:18:25.580 But by looking at those three different lenses, you would say, the only thing that I have a little bit of a problem in, I think if he would have just blown the water out in that debate, it's over.

01:18:36.400 And he had a chance to actually end her campaign because it was heading back in the wrong direction.

01:18:42.380 She sort of stabilized, and I think we're probably in for a real late night on election night.

01:18:48.240 And in the case of Maricopa County, Arizona, it would probably be December.

01:18:52.760 Yeah, I think the one thing I would add on that to Holmes' second point on those June and July numbers of Biden or when Harris got right in the race,

01:19:01.700 Trump had a bigger lead in those surveys, but you've got to look at who were the people sitting on the sidelines, who were the undecided voters at that point.

01:19:13.540 The vast, vast majority were base Democrat voters and young voters who were just demoralized about Biden and this sort of malaise in the Democratic Party.

01:19:23.460 So, yes, is the election tighter and has Harris taken a theoretical lead in some of these states?

01:19:29.900 Yes, but it was just getting back her side to re-engage in politics, right?

01:19:35.340 So, like, back to what Holmes said, it's like, this is the race we expected a year ago today.

01:19:41.360 Mm-hmm.

01:19:42.780 Can I give you a couple other numbers?

01:19:46.160 Quinnipiac, blue wall polling, that's Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.

01:19:50.740 That is showing Harris is up five in Pennsylvania.

01:19:56.600 On August 14th, they were showing her up three.

01:20:01.100 And this is said to be a more Democrat-leaning poll.

01:20:05.320 RCP says that anyway.

01:20:07.360 Michigan, Harris is up five, according to this poll.

01:20:10.600 There was no recent poll to compare it to.

01:20:14.220 And Wisconsin, they have Harris up one.

01:20:17.220 The last Q poll on Wisconsin was back in May.

01:20:20.760 Biden was up six.

01:20:22.500 So by that measure, Trump's doing much better in the state of Wisconsin.

01:20:27.360 And then there's this Seltzer-Iowa poll.

01:20:30.620 And this is the Des Moines, Iowa, or Des Moines Register poll conducted by Seltzer & Co.

01:20:37.600 It was conducted last week before the second assassination attempt.

01:20:40.940 My God, it's amazing how we just kind of throw that out there now.

01:20:43.340 And it's showing Trump up four, which you might think sounds good, but because he won Iowa, Trump did, by 8.2 in 2020 and 9.4 in 2016.

01:20:53.820 So why is he only up four in this, what is said to be the gold standard poll in Iowa?

01:21:01.400 Not that we're worried about Trump losing Iowa, just what does that tell you?

01:21:05.160 Yeah, I think, if I'm not mistaken, those numbers are very similar to where he was in 2020 and maybe even leaner than that in 2016.

01:21:15.680 I'm not worried about that.

01:21:16.120 At this point in the race.

01:21:17.740 Yeah.

01:21:18.060 That's interesting.

01:21:18.240 I'll also just say nobody's up five in any of these states.

01:21:21.720 I mean, this is a margin of error race.

01:21:25.960 You would have to work very, very hard to try to find a five-point split in your sample base.

01:21:31.460 It's like, I wouldn't even release that poll because it's just not, it's not true.

01:21:34.780 I mean, the upside of what we do for a living is that we have a lot of polls.

01:21:37.680 We get, we're privy to a lot of this stuff.

01:21:39.260 And I think that the reality is Pennsylvania is tied.

01:21:42.600 I mean, it's just straight up tied.

01:21:44.760 Turnout obviously going to have a lot to do.

01:21:46.380 The universes that ultimately make up the election day turnout are going to be really big.

01:21:51.240 Early votes really big.

01:21:52.800 Everything is really big.

01:21:53.780 It's just the composition of all of that matters.

01:21:57.020 I mean, we saw in 2022, Democrats basically put the election away in Pennsylvania before

01:22:01.960 they got to election day, right?

01:22:03.960 I mean, most people who voted in that election never got to see John Fetterman actually have

01:22:09.400 that debate moment against Oz where he just did terribly.

01:22:13.540 Their votes were already in the bank.

01:22:15.460 I think the Republican Party's got a little bit better handle on it this time around.

01:22:19.140 I mean, there's no denying that the sky is blue and people actually do vote by mail

01:22:23.560 and they vote early and all those things and their efforts underway.

01:22:26.940 I do.

01:22:27.780 I do.

01:22:28.220 You feel good about the get out the vote effort?

01:22:30.420 I wouldn't say I feel good.

01:22:32.000 I say I feel better.

01:22:33.120 I feel a lot better than what we were at 2020.

01:22:35.660 But and I feel better than how does it get amped up to good to great?

01:22:40.060 I don't think I don't think.

01:22:42.380 Well, we'll see.

01:22:42.940 I mean, look, I'd love to be surprised.

01:22:44.680 I'd love to be surprised.

01:22:45.780 I mean, one hopeful data point in particular in Arizona.

01:22:49.380 If you look at the absentee by mail and Evie early vote in like the Arizona primary on

01:22:57.440 the Republican side.

01:22:58.620 Yes.

01:22:59.080 Good point.

01:22:59.540 We saw a lot of very strong numbers in the Republican primary and there have been some

01:23:04.140 attrition there in 2020.

01:23:05.820 And a lot of that is due to Trump and other folks who are trying to get people to only

01:23:11.400 vote on Election Day, which is a huge mistake in some of these states where they mail out ballots.

01:23:15.580 Right.

01:23:16.060 But the other thing I would note is like no one in our politics has outperformed his

01:23:20.060 polling more consistently than Donald Trump.

01:23:22.320 Yeah.

01:23:22.800 You know, and I remember in 2029 in particular, and I agree with you.

01:23:25.880 I mean, like the Seltzer poll has largely been seen as the gold standard.

01:23:29.480 But I remember in 2020 when Joni put up like a you may remember this, put up like a Trump

01:23:33.800 ad in the final like week or week and a half for Election Day in 2020.

01:23:38.100 And all these D.C.

01:23:39.220 journalists were like, oh, maybe Joni Ernst is in trouble in the Senate race.

01:23:43.380 And then she like I think she won by nine.

01:23:45.180 You know, and so like it's just it's it's tight.

01:23:50.100 It's tight.

01:23:50.700 I hate to say it's all going to come down and turn out and be the most glib hack in Washington.

01:23:55.180 But the reality is it kind of is.

01:23:57.640 Yeah.

01:23:57.980 The the other poll is the New York Times Siena poll, which is showing them tied.

01:24:04.500 And by the way, to your point, I wanted to mention.

01:24:06.740 So Quinnipiac, this more Dem leading poll shows her up five in Pennsylvania.

01:24:10.660 But as I mentioned, Emerson shows her up.

01:24:13.040 So it's Trump up one.

01:24:14.520 It shows Michigan up the Quinnipiac Harris up five and Emerson is showing Harris up two.

01:24:24.120 So, yeah, to your point, no one's up five.

01:24:26.240 So anyway, back to the New York Times Siena poll.

01:24:29.680 A new one just dropped showing that while overwhelmingly viewers or voters thought that she won the debate 67 percent to 40 percent.

01:24:39.400 This is from The New York Times, quote, but she failed.

01:24:43.400 She has failed so far to seize a decisive advantage in the presidential campaign as a result of it.

01:24:49.780 They have them tied 47 to 47 before the debate.

01:24:53.720 They had Trump up two in Pennsylvania.

01:24:56.040 They're showing her up four.

01:24:58.560 But that is unchanged since early August when Harris was up four.

01:25:04.580 They have.

01:25:05.860 Let's see.

01:25:08.020 This is interesting, too.

01:25:09.400 Harris's biggest problem overall is that far more voters see her as too liberal than view Trump as too conservative.

01:25:17.760 So that is some good news for Team Trump.

01:25:20.660 Like she's not defining herself.

01:25:23.360 And bit by bit, they are defining her.

01:25:29.000 No question about it.

01:25:30.540 I mean, I think we've talked about this a lot, probably with you, too, Megan.

01:25:33.040 Is it the one great lie about this entire election is that somehow Donald Trump is the radical.

01:25:39.960 Yeah.

01:25:40.340 Right.

01:25:40.600 I mean, from an ideological standpoint, from a policy standpoint, he is dead center in the middle of this election.

01:25:45.360 I've never seen a nominee of either two parties be more in the center in terms of what their policy prescriptions are if they were to become president of the United States.

01:25:54.820 She has a record of being a far leftist and has since provided absolutely no context for us to believe that she has somehow had an epiphany other than to say, well, now I don't believe any of that stuff.

01:26:05.480 Right. And how do we know that Donald Trump is at the center of the electorate?

01:26:08.900 Well, because even on the things that the Democrats used to call him extreme on, like the border wall, now you've got Kamala Harris literally cutting ads, featuring it.

01:26:18.780 Yeah.

01:26:19.020 Featuring it.

01:26:19.900 So, yeah, she is the radical.

01:26:20.960 And the other part of this that is sort of easy, I wouldn't say easy, but makes the job easier.

01:26:26.900 Everything Kamala said in 2019 is on tape.

01:26:29.640 It's on video, you know.

01:26:30.780 So, like, all the time that she's using avoiding interviews is an opportunity for Team Trump to run another ad of her own words, out of her own mouth, saying radical things.

01:26:40.200 There's one state before we wrap this up.

01:26:42.920 You mentioned Wisconsin.

01:26:45.020 Wisconsin has been moving over the last week to 10 days.

01:26:48.240 That was a state that I think if you looked at in early August, you would say, boy, it feels like a reach both for Trump and for a Senate race with a candidate by the name of Eric Hovde.

01:26:57.900 It just looked like that margin couldn't be closed, and you saw Democrats hovering around that 50 or above line, which is usually trouble when it comes to an election like this.

01:27:07.740 What we've seen over the last week to 10 days is that has just absolutely collapsed.

01:27:11.740 I mean, that is a now margin of error race.

01:27:14.540 And a lot of advertising going on.

01:27:16.800 There's a lot of advertising going on there that people don't, you know, have a perfect window into here in Washington, D.C. or New York or anywhere else.

01:27:24.420 But the voters are being subjected to the arguments in real time in a very heavy way.

01:27:29.520 And to the point that we were talking about who is in the center of the electorate, what arguments are being made that resonate with that center of the electorate?

01:27:37.540 It's Donald Trump's argument.

01:27:39.020 It's about closing the border.

01:27:41.260 It's about having a strong economy.

01:27:42.840 It's about making sure that your communities are safe.

01:27:45.180 What is she talking about?

01:27:46.480 Donald Trump's crazy.

01:27:48.220 Joy.

01:27:48.500 Joy.

01:27:48.700 But it's like it's just amorphous nothingness.

01:27:52.320 And you can see in some of these states where they haven't been subjected to the level of advertising that like a Pennsylvania has since last April.

01:28:00.160 Once that has become heavier, you're seeing real ballot moves.

01:28:04.080 I would not be surprised at all if Wisconsin comes very online here in the next two or three weeks as that begins to penetrate even deeper into the electorate.

01:28:11.960 Okay, so we are going to talk about how far left she is, but we'll let Holmes go because he has something else to do.

01:28:20.580 Before we do that, Josh Holmes, great to see you.

01:28:22.720 Thank you, fellas, for sticking around.

01:28:24.300 We'll take a quick break and be right back.

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01:29:30.940 Guys, we were able to find that Iowa, the Des Moines Register poll, at least for 2020, mid-September, and it showed Biden and Trump tied.

01:29:41.480 So you guys were exactly right by that standard.

01:29:44.820 He's doing better even in Iowa than he did that time, and he won it, you know, by a healthy margin, as I said last time around.

01:29:52.800 So interesting.

01:29:53.420 Okay.

01:29:53.580 Um, there's a lot still to get through.

01:29:56.360 I need another half an hour of the show, but I don't have it.

01:29:59.600 Um, okay.

01:30:00.700 Just how far left is Kamala Harris?

01:30:04.220 Can we find, yeah, this clip is being circulated online.

01:30:11.680 This is from 2007.

01:30:14.480 Her talking about her right to intrude on the peaceful homes of gun owners.

01:30:20.640 Sot7.

01:30:21.100 Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way you conduct your affair.

01:30:33.380 Wait, what?

01:30:36.600 Wow.

01:30:38.560 I mean, we could play, you know, 25 clips like that.

01:30:41.520 You won't walk in.

01:30:42.580 I mean, what the hell?

01:30:43.720 I love how she also mentioned your house may be locked, but that's not going to stop.

01:30:47.660 Yeah, that won't stop.

01:30:48.420 Yeah.

01:30:48.840 I mean, it's, it's really incredible, Megan.

01:30:51.120 I mean, the further you go back, there's like, there's multiple iterations of Kamala Harris, depending on where she was at the stage of her career, where she's sort of like, it ebbs and flows between

01:31:02.620 left-wing lunatic and person trying to triangulate for a general election.

01:31:07.100 But I mean, you go back to the old stuff and she really gives you that unvarnished, uncut left-wing lunacy.

01:31:12.820 It's really incredible.

01:31:13.700 Yeah.

01:31:14.700 Okay.

01:31:14.960 But what we're hearing from the left is that that person there will terrify people.

01:31:21.700 And I don't just mean gun owners in America who should be terrified by her.

01:31:25.580 I mean, people like Vladimir Putin, who is going to be afraid of Kamala Harris for reasons you may not have anticipated.

01:31:33.780 Take a listen to MSNBC guest, Brigadier General Steven Anderson yesterday.

01:31:41.060 It's not 28.

01:31:41.800 But Kamala Harris would be just the opposite.

01:31:43.780 Why?

01:31:44.160 Because she's an inspiration.

01:31:45.540 Not only is she positive, does she bring hope and optimism, but as a black woman, the product of a mixed marriage, she will inspire millions of people throughout the world.

01:31:58.280 Our credibility as a nation that we would be able to allow, our country is so great that we're allowed a woman like that to become the commander-in-chief, the president of the United States.

01:32:07.840 That is going to send a powerful message all over the world.

01:32:12.020 People like Vladimir Putin are going to say, hey, wait a minute.

01:32:15.000 These guys, you know, they truly have a democratic country.

01:32:18.960 They truly are representative.

01:32:20.580 They truly are fighting for all their people.

01:32:23.140 And Kamala Harris is a manifestation of that.

01:32:27.460 It's just – she's just going to look at Putin and say, I'm a role model, damn it.

01:32:32.420 Pay attention to me.

01:32:33.880 I'm a role model.

01:32:34.920 Don't you know?

01:32:35.520 Another first.

01:32:36.100 I'm from the middle class.

01:32:38.720 I mean, I know, like, Putin would be quaking in his boots because he's like, folks, representation matters.

01:32:44.820 And I look at this country and I know I can't mess with them.

01:32:47.520 But, I mean, that's the level of brain rot that has taken over the left where the only thing that matters is –

01:32:53.820 Smug, how did that guy become a brigadier general?

01:32:56.820 I mean, I think he's trying to figure out how to get on TV and he's figured out the way.

01:33:00.920 You just push a left-wing line.

01:33:02.760 Just shallow pandering.

01:33:03.880 There you go.

01:33:04.340 You know, also, I mean, we can go back to recent history when Barack Obama was elected, you know, same sort of milestone presidency.

01:33:12.880 And people made the same argument back then.

01:33:14.920 How did that work with the red line in Syria?

01:33:17.020 Didn't really work.

01:33:17.800 How did it work when Putin invaded Crimea?

01:33:20.480 Was he like, well, I can't do that because America just elected their first black president?

01:33:24.400 I mean, like, it is elementary-level brain rot.

01:33:29.140 Like, I can't believe people go on national television and make an argument that asinine.

01:33:34.900 The interracial marriage.

01:33:37.260 That's what's going to bring him to his knees.

01:33:39.520 He's going to be like, you know, if it had just been a black Indian woman, but she married a white guy, I give up.

01:33:47.540 I'm disarming.

01:33:49.420 Also, I would point out, like, America's enemies want the Democrats elected.

01:33:54.260 We just found out last night, reported in The Hill, that, you know, the Trump campaign was hacked by Iran.

01:34:02.360 And Iran has been trying to peddle all of this information from the Trump campaign to Joe Biden and his former staffers and campaign folks.

01:34:10.640 So, I mean, I think America's enemies have been very clear with who they would like to be elected, and it's Kamala Harris.

01:34:17.040 Yeah, this should concern you if you're on the receiving end of that offer.

01:34:20.560 Like, why do they want me?

01:34:22.380 What is it about me that makes me so appealing to Iran?

01:34:24.700 Hmm.

01:34:25.760 Speaking of interracial marriages, I've got to get this insanity to you.

01:34:29.400 Sonny Hauston over at The View had some choice words for Brittany Mahomes, who's married to the other Mahomes guy who plays for the Chiefs.

01:34:38.580 And he's apparently a very good football player.

01:34:41.240 And he, she had the temerity to like a Trump post online, something about Trump or a Trump post.

01:34:50.120 And she's been taking shit for it ever since.

01:34:52.620 She wound up posting this defensive tweet saying, God, people are like, you got to settle down.

01:34:57.000 Like, go be a better person and don't jump all over people for just random stuff.

01:35:02.480 And here's Sonny Hauston weighing in on it yesterday.

01:35:05.240 Saw 30.

01:35:05.620 It just seems to me that since she is in an interracial marriage, she should have known that to support a racist is problematic.

01:35:16.620 Her children are biracial and her family is one of the families that in the 70s could not have lived in any of Donald Trump's buildings.

01:35:25.200 So it just seems to me that maybe she's just not that politically savvy or maybe she's just not read in.

01:35:36.200 Well, granted, all we know is that she's in an interracial marriage.

01:35:39.800 Problematic.

01:35:40.500 That's their favorite.

01:35:42.160 That's their favorite term to use when they don't actually know what it is and it's full of shit.

01:35:46.400 You know, it's problematic.

01:35:47.920 Well, it's been said.

01:35:48.860 You have to insult her, right?

01:35:50.040 Like, she's not read in.

01:35:51.900 She just she's too dumb to know she's supporting this racist.

01:35:56.000 But I, Sonny Hauston, am here to tell her.

01:35:59.920 It's the problem with the left.

01:36:01.060 Nobody's allowed to have a differing opinion.

01:36:02.800 That's the thing.

01:36:03.140 It's like everything has to be monolithic.

01:36:05.300 No, here are the talking points.

01:36:06.760 This is what you have to sign on to and salute.

01:36:08.960 And if you don't, you're out.

01:36:10.140 I mean, it is I don't know how anybody watches that show.

01:36:13.160 I mean, I don't know if it was Steve or you, Megan, who was watching The View that picked that up.

01:36:19.400 And they were you were like, oh, you always have the best view.

01:36:22.260 You do.

01:36:22.900 Like you do the hard work for the rest of America.

01:36:26.140 Yeah.

01:36:26.780 They are the ones who make this show so great.

01:36:28.640 They find all sorts of fun nuggets.

01:36:30.700 But it's just so it's like, why don't you expand that further?

01:36:33.420 Let's talk about Trump doubling his support, at least according to the latest poll with black men.

01:36:38.520 Are they also uninformed and not read in?

01:36:43.560 Because if I said that, you'd be calling me a racist.

01:36:46.120 But I guess you're by implication, you can say it about a white woman.

01:36:49.120 But you're also saying it about black voters who are ready to pull the lever for Trump.

01:36:54.120 They're just too dumb to realize they're voting for a racist who hates them.

01:36:59.280 Listen to Sonny Hostin.

01:37:00.440 She knows better.

01:37:02.440 Yeah.

01:37:03.000 And then also like just brass tacks here.

01:37:05.900 Um, Donald Trump presided over an economy that had the lowest African-American unemployment rate in history.

01:37:13.260 You know, maybe that is motivating black voters to support Donald Trump in larger margins than they did in 2020.

01:37:20.720 But I mean, like that's just an informed opinion of your own personal situation.

01:37:25.400 And according to Sonny Hostin's, that doesn't matter.

01:37:27.500 And I also think it's sort of remarkable.

01:37:29.320 And the view is great at this.

01:37:30.900 They love attacking women, just a real woman supporting women show.

01:37:34.840 Um, but like, why can't she just have her own views?

01:37:37.780 Why is it about her kids or what her husband does and all of these sort of other things?

01:37:42.020 Right.

01:37:42.640 Why can't she just believe what she believes?

01:37:45.100 You would think most independent women, and I assume the view is a show for that sort of thing, would support that sort of thing.

01:37:51.480 And from, from what I understand, it's not like she was out on the campaign trail.

01:37:55.940 It's just that she liked to post on social media.

01:37:59.460 So they've got their researchers going through the posts of people to see what they like and don't like.

01:38:06.560 Of course.

01:38:07.180 Get out of here.

01:38:08.380 It made news because you're not allowed to like anything Trump does.

01:38:11.260 Go ahead, Smog.

01:38:11.880 Right.

01:38:12.120 That's the thing is they have to make, they're like an in-group and an out-group.

01:38:17.080 And if you do anything against the rules, you have to be put in the out-group as an example to others.

01:38:23.040 That's how you keep these insane people on the same side, how you can end up with queers for Palestine.

01:38:28.360 None of the left makes sense to be working together right now.

01:38:31.480 All they're put together by is this DEI framework of Trump is the next Hitler.

01:38:36.860 And if any way you disagree with us, well, you're out in the cold.

01:38:40.120 You're done for.

01:38:40.620 Yeah, I mean, they create this basically culture of silence, right?

01:38:44.460 Where like people don't express their views, right?

01:38:47.320 Because they're scared they're going to be part of the out-group.

01:38:49.400 And I got to tell you, Megan, that's why Donald Trump always outperforms his polls.

01:38:54.020 Yeah.

01:38:55.820 Very good.

01:38:56.700 Very good way to end the show.

01:38:58.280 You guys, thank you.

01:38:59.180 There you go.

01:39:01.120 Pleasure as always.

01:39:02.480 Love having you on.

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01:39:05.040 Thanks for having us.

01:39:06.140 Thanks so much.

01:39:06.420 All right.

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01:39:10.900 We're going to be doing a deep dive on these disturbing Sean Combs, Diddy allegations.

01:39:17.200 Good Lord.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - September 19, 2024

Trump's New York Surge, and Hillary Says Asking For Kamala's Policies is Sexist, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts ｜ Ep. 893

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