The Megyn Kelly Show - Trump's Tariff Victory Lap, Massive EU Trade Deal, and Insane Leftist Sydney Sweeney Backlash, with Victor Davis Hanson

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00:02:26.260 what's happening today. Former President Donald Trump in Scotland now making tons of news at an

00:02:31.960 impromptu press conference. I love how he does this. You know, every other president would go

00:02:36.980 overseas. They would stick to the script. It would be incredibly stilted. Trump just like free form.

00:02:42.180 Like, what do you want to know? Well, let's talk about anything. Literally anything. Epstein,

00:02:46.660 great. Putin, done. Me and other leaders, great. I'll do it. Tariffs, yes, that's what we're here

00:02:53.800 for. We've never had a president like this. They're all so afraid. They don't want to like say

00:03:00.060 anything off script. They don't have the confidence. Trump not only has a lifelong confidence that lets

00:03:05.160 him do this, but he's truly in the zero Fs to give category. And you can thank the Democrats for that.

00:03:11.660 That's one lovely thing we've gotten from the Democrats who have tried to imprison our current

00:03:16.020 president and the loons who got, God only knows exactly the party affiliation, but who tried to

00:03:22.640 kill Trump and threaten his life. They too have left him in this zero Fs to give place. And that's why

00:03:30.200 he's better and stronger than ever. And that's the man you see on the world stage now and negotiating

00:03:36.520 incredible tariff deals, et cetera, which we're going to get to in a huge win on the terrorist

00:03:43.200 front. This is not media spin. It's a huge win. And all of his detractors are being proven wrong

00:03:49.660 every day. Think of just think of when the tariffs first started to get unveiled and how many people

00:03:56.760 were so quick to jump on him, even on the right. He's wrong. These are disaster. He shouldn't do it.

00:04:03.380 But very few defended them and or said, as we did, can we just wait and give him the benefit

00:04:10.300 of the doubt? And let's see. Let's see how he does. Well, he's doing great. They're paying dividends

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00:05:32.000 to see you. Thank you for having me, Megan. The tariff deal is huge. Let me just, do we have,

00:05:39.340 do we have the sampling of predictions on the tariffs, you guys? Do we have that soundbite?

00:05:45.480 Yeah, watch. This is, this is what the media said was going to happen on the Trump tariffs.

00:05:53.120 You can't undo the damage. The Trump slump is upon us now. We're in a car driven by somebody

00:05:59.680 who was blackout drunk. And it's like one of those bad Bugs Bunny cartoons. It's Looney Tunes. This is

00:06:05.760 not Liberation Day in America. It's Recession Day. The greatest man-made economic crisis in modern

00:06:13.660 presidential history and paralyze American businesses, large and small, forcing them to

00:06:22.140 lay off people, to stop hiring or pause investment decisions. It feels like a, there's an expression

00:06:29.400 in tech called chaos monkey. Well, this particular chaos monkey is throwing feces all over the planet,

00:06:34.440 essentially, and saying enjoy. So I don't, I don't. Kara Swisher, who knows nothing. So you saw top

00:06:42.740 Dems, top media pundits saying it's doom and gloom. It's economic catastrophe coming our way.

00:06:48.100 You could expand that. There was like, the shelves are going to be empty. We're not going to have

00:06:52.100 goods anymore. He's going to devastate American farmers up and down the board, you name it. Now he

00:06:57.080 struck deals all over Asia. We have a deal with Japan, Japan, sorry, Japan, Vietnam, the UK, and now

00:07:06.020 beyond the UK to Europe, which is 27 countries. The deal with Japan and the UK looks almost exactly

00:07:11.420 the same. We get to charge them 15% tariffs. They charge us zero, zero. And the UK, the European

00:07:18.300 Union kept trying to bargain us down. Like maybe, maybe it could just be a 5% tariff. No, 15. Maybe it

00:07:25.520 could be a 10% tariff. No, 15. Okay. If it's going to be a 15% tariff, maybe we'll tariff you guys to

00:07:31.840 some portion. No, you'll charge us zero. That's what they agreed to. In addition to opening US

00:07:38.460 access. Sorry, let me, let me read my note here. Investments in the American market by the Europeans.

00:07:47.300 So he's getting them to invest their money here and opening their markets to American companies in

00:07:52.980 the way they hadn't been before. Trump was out there saying, let's face it. You guys weren't

00:07:56.320 really open to us. You were kind of taking advantage of all the buying power of American

00:08:00.980 consumers. And you really weren't letting us and our companies sell our goods there. It was one

00:08:06.000 sided. Our so-called friends who we got such a hard time for, for, you know, not being nice to

00:08:10.480 we're taking advantage of us, Victor. And now Trump's done it. He's T he's taking in tariff income.

00:08:16.920 He's getting them to invest in the company, his country, and our companies get to sell their goods

00:08:21.900 over there. I mean, it's a complete win so far. It is. If I could just detour a bit, Megan,

00:08:27.320 you know, for five years, I farmed full time and I did it part time here on my farm for 15 years.

00:08:33.600 And I grew raisins and the EU subsidized and dumped their raisins with a 500 subsidy dollar a ton.

00:08:42.920 And it destroyed the raisin market in the 1980s. And my point is that when Reagan officials whom I

00:08:49.460 like came out to explain, you know what they said to us? This is good for you because this was the

00:08:55.320 traditional economic exegesis that if they subsidize and we don't, then we're going to

00:09:01.620 have kind of a Darwinian only the strongest will survive. And that's good. And you'd say, well,

00:09:06.360 you can't survive when they have a $500 dumping advantage. And then they'd say, well, they won't

00:09:11.280 be able to sustain it. And they did sustain it. And then they'll say, it's going to lower prices

00:09:16.380 for Americans that if you get less and it didn't. And so we've been dealing with this economic

00:09:22.620 orthodoxy for a long time. And what's missing is we don't really know what the profit margin was for

00:09:29.920 the Japanese, the Chinese, the Europeans in this market. It could have been 20 or 30. But my point

00:09:35.440 is that they apparently have calculated that as long as it's 15%, they're going to make plenty of

00:09:41.800 money without having to raise prices and get in a trade war as the entry charge to get into this huge

00:09:48.840 consumer market. And everybody said that's not true. But apparently they have made a calculated

00:09:53.940 decision that they will make plenty of money, pay the tariff and be here. The other thing we don't

00:09:59.600 realize is the total market capitalization of Silicon Valley is about $9 trillion. Doug Burgum the

00:10:07.000 other day said there's $15 trillion in foreign investment on schedule to be invested in the

00:10:13.220 United States the next two years. The economists have, you know, they have certain formulas that

00:10:19.420 for every billion dollars of foreign investment, you get, I don't know, 5,000 new jobs. But nobody in

00:10:25.340 their right mind had ever envisioned $15 trillion if that actually happened. So what I'm getting at is

00:10:30.940 there's all sorts of new things that have happened under Trump. The Interior Department, our EPA not

00:10:37.800 having two years to wait for a permit but 21 days, or getting rid of one million self-deport, you know,

00:10:45.580 through self-deportation illegal aliens that I can tell you from living here at ground zero of illegal

00:10:51.460 immigration. Many of them, if not most, were on federal, state, local entitlements. So there's all sorts

00:10:57.280 of things that nobody has calculated the actual effects of. They just go back to this old stale

00:11:02.500 orthodoxy, doom and gloom. And then when it doesn't happen, they don't, they neither apologize nor they

00:11:08.540 explain why they were so pessimistic. All those clips that you had, they never said, this is why

00:11:13.980 we're going to have a recession. This is going to be this. This is, they never do. They just parrot each

00:11:19.220 other. And it's very disappointing. Even the Wall Street Journal, not the op-ed, but the news section,

00:11:24.340 I went back and looked at what they were saying in March. Stock market collapse, stagflation,

00:11:30.820 job decrease, decrease real wages. It wasn't that they were wrong, that the opposite happened at

00:11:37.520 every one of those categories. Right, exactly. We've got a surging stock market, record highs on the

00:11:43.860 stock market. The inflation is down to 2.4%. I mean, very low under Trump. The interest rates would go

00:11:51.720 down and the inflation would stop even more if he could get the Fed to cooperate with him. But

00:11:56.900 here's, there was a, there's an art, a writer, Colby Hall over at media who wrote a, an article

00:12:01.720 to his credit, calling out some of the naysayers. Paul Krugman called it the biggest trade shock in

00:12:07.720 history. He said was coming our way. They warmed about economic Armageddon. He calls out Bill Ackman,

00:12:14.120 who warned of a self-induced economic nuclear winter coming our way, likening the policy to a second

00:12:19.620 Great Depression. We played Chuck, Chuck Schumer in that montage, declaring the tariffs could destroy

00:12:24.800 New York City's economy, drive the United States into recession and on and on it goes. Elon didn't

00:12:31.380 like the, them either calling the plan super stupid. We can keep going. So, you know, I really hope people

00:12:38.060 will take a pause here and actually tip the hat to Donald Trump so far, because these folks are agreeing

00:12:44.360 to pay 15 percent tariffs without raising prices. You mentioned it in passing, but they're not going

00:12:50.080 to raise the prices. They're going to absorb that money, which is going to get paid to us, to the

00:12:55.740 United States. There was a report over the weekend that we're now making so much money on the tariffs

00:12:59.700 that Trump's considering a rebate to the American people, which frankly shouldn't happen. It should

00:13:05.940 go to paying down the enormous debt. But, but the point is, when have we ever been discussing a

00:13:11.280 rebate to the American people or had a month like June where we were finally in the black when it

00:13:17.000 comes to our balance sheet for the first time in forever, we were not in the red. We took in more

00:13:21.980 than we spent. Yeah. I mean, Scott Besson, who's very conservative in his, his prognoses has said that

00:13:30.320 we might get a third of a trillion dollars in tariffs. That's unheard of if that, but he said it.

00:13:35.940 And, you know, when you look at everybody's angry at Trump for berating Powell, but we pay three

00:13:43.660 billion dollars a day in interest. All Trump is trying to say is if you use the same calculus that

00:13:48.940 you did during the Biden administration, where, when, after all, before the election, they lowered

00:13:53.900 interest rates. If you just cut it by a third, we would save another third of a trillion dollars.

00:13:59.940 That's, you know, 60, that's about 700 billion dollars in interest savings and tariffs. And we're

00:14:07.000 a third of the way to balancing the budget. So there's things that are in process that I don't

00:14:12.060 think any of our journalists or politicians, even if they were disinterested, and most of them aren't,

00:14:18.200 they're, they're prejudiced and biased because Trump just sets them afire. But if they were disinterested,

00:14:23.540 I don't think they've seen anything like this, this level of foreign investment,

00:14:27.520 government, or this deregulation, or the streamlining of the federal government, or the

00:14:32.920 sudden closure of the border, or nothing's happened like this before. There was a million

00:14:38.820 foreign job, million jobs at foreign nationals held that are no longer there, but there's two

00:14:44.500 million new jobs for Americans. And all we, all we heard from these people was you can't do anything

00:14:50.240 unless you have comprehensive immigration reform. And that wasn't true. All you needed was a new

00:14:54.780 president. It was very simple. Right, right. To the point where his border policies have been

00:14:59.140 so effective. Rahm Emanuel, who's clearly running for president over on the Dem side, told me last

00:15:03.920 week, there's nothing he would change about them. Not a thing about the border policies that Trump has

00:15:10.680 instituted. That's incredible. He doesn't like the deportation policies, no Democrats going to,

00:15:16.740 but the border policy. So it's really incredible. Here is the president of the European Union,

00:15:20.520 Ursula von der Leyen, to Trump earlier. Satu. You're known as a tough negotiator and dealmaker.

00:15:31.580 But fair. And fair. And what is in front of us. That's less important. If we are successful,

00:15:37.620 I think it would be the biggest deal each of us has ever struck. So I'm very much looking forward.

00:15:43.600 Ever struck by anybody. That's true. Yeah, that's true. You and I both figured this is,

00:15:48.060 this is really the biggest trading partnership in the world. So we should give it a shot, right?

00:15:53.100 Yeah. Very much looking forward to that. Oh, thank you very much. I do too.

00:15:58.620 He set the deadline of August 1st and some countries are finally realizing he means it.

00:16:05.500 And so here we are almost there and the European Union, which is, I mean, 27 countries, Victor,

00:16:10.060 this is huge. They, let's be honest, they bent the knee. They, they did what he said

00:16:15.120 they needed to do, which was take the 15% and not complain about it. Same as Japan.

00:16:20.580 And by the way, all the deals he's striking over in Asia are really important because they're

00:16:25.500 basically an end around China. They open up those markets to the United States. Japan was letting,

00:16:32.160 you know, they, you can't go to a street corner in American cities without passing a Toyota dealership,

00:16:37.240 but we couldn't sell our cars over there because they put so many regulations. It wasn't a tariff thing,

00:16:41.680 but there's so many regulations on our cars that we, they weren't sellable. Trump's changing all of

00:16:45.640 that. Like there's just no trading partner, friend or foe that he looks at differently.

00:16:52.200 Doesn't matter who you are. He wants to make a deal that will benefit the United States and leverage

00:16:57.600 our incredible buying power. Everyone wants access to the 330 million Americans that are here,

00:17:04.040 but just no president before actually used our strength to improve our negotiations.

00:17:09.140 Yeah. I think also there's two subtext. They understand that under Trump, this economy in

00:17:15.720 the next four years is going to be the most, it's going to be the freest economy, the least regulated

00:17:20.760 of any of its competitors. And it's going to grow and they want in on that growth. The other thing is

00:17:26.740 they know what they've been doing. The reason that they're making, they're making agreements is they

00:17:31.100 look back at the last 20 years under globalization and so-called free trade. That was not fair. And they

00:17:38.160 know they made out like bandits. And so they feel that some of this is repertory. And the other thing

00:17:43.460 is they also understand that for all the talk about the 5% at NATO or Japan's rearming, that for

00:17:50.780 the recent history and for the present and for the near future, the United States really does subsidize

00:17:56.980 their defense and has allowed their economies to be mercantile because they spent very, Japan and the

00:18:03.440 EU were spending well under 2% of their defense budget the last 20 years. And we were subsidizing.

00:18:09.300 And they know that. And Trump brings all that stuff up to them. And they realize they had a pretty good

00:18:14.880 deal and they can have a good deal, maybe not a great deal like they've had, but a good deal.

00:18:20.840 And the alternative was not very palatable to them.

00:18:24.060 Mm-hmm. So now you get the New York Times reacting to the news with the following headline.

00:18:32.500 Trump and the EU have a blueprint for a giant trade deal. Is it good for Europe? Who gives a

00:18:39.180 shit if it's good for Europe? That's a headline for France, for Germany. That is not a headline

00:18:45.560 for the New York Times, Victor.

00:18:49.240 I know. It's almost every time he has something that works, everybody... I was just... Just to show

00:18:55.960 you an example. I was talking to a very well-known general not too long ago. And right before all of

00:19:02.340 the Trump reforms and ads, the end of DEI at the Pentagon, changing the direction of the emphasis

00:19:10.280 at the Pentagon into battlefield efficiency, efficacy, and not DEI. I was telling him all

00:19:15.560 this. He said, no. The reason that we're $55,000 to recruit short is because of obesity. It's

00:19:22.020 because of drugs. It's because of gangs. We're competing. Every other reason but the obvious

00:19:26.720 one. And I said, I think it's going to work. And it did. It was almost magic like he did with

00:19:33.500 the border. Suddenly there is no military recruitment shortfall. We were told that this was systemic

00:19:38.840 and we'd have to live with it, with a smaller military. And when it turns out, Megan, all

00:19:44.400 it was is... I looked at the data. It was white, male, rural, young people who felt unwelcome

00:19:51.440 whether it was because of the vaccination ban, a ban when they didn't want to get a vaccination

00:19:57.480 because they had natural immunity, or it was the DEI ads, or it was a sense they wouldn't

00:20:02.580 be promoted or treated fairly, or it was Mark Milley and Austin's testimony about systemic

00:20:07.260 racism everywhere, which was never proved. But that cohort started to join again. And

00:20:12.780 they were the people who died statistically at twice their numbers in the demographic

00:20:17.100 in Afghanistan and Iraq. That's just another example of this traditional status quo wisdom

00:20:23.140 that's, you can't do this, you can't do this, it won't work. And yet when it works spectacularly,

00:20:28.120 they don't even have the intellectual integrity to say, you know, we were wrong. It actually

00:20:32.600 was a solution. That's exactly right. And we need to watch for that. I'm going to play a soundbite

00:20:37.780 of one guy next. But on the New York Times front, I wanted to mention this too. So now Trump, he has

00:20:43.800 this huge win with the European Union. And instead of saying he's won, they say, oh, but is it good

00:20:49.100 for the EU? Like, as if they're writing, you know, in Paris, as opposed to in New York, which is in

00:20:56.500 New York State, which is in the United States of America. But they did the same thing on the NATO deal

00:21:01.360 that you just mentioned. When Trump got the NATO countries to agree to spend 5% of their GDP

00:21:07.640 on military spending, their first reaction was, they're not really going to do it.

00:21:12.320 They're not, that's not real. Meanwhile, the pledge has always been aspirational.

00:21:16.460 Even the 2% that they had agreed to before was, we'll try. It was never like, we will,

00:21:21.820 it's ironclad, we'll get kicked out immediately upon not doing it. It's always been aspirational.

00:21:26.980 It's been an honor system over there. They can't give Trump any credit for getting these countries

00:21:32.500 to actually agree to his deal terms. And the tariffs, we're slapping them on. So we're in

00:21:37.360 charge of those. It is going to happen. So now they have to switch it to not will the EU do it,

00:21:41.620 but is it good for the EU? You know, we really care about the EU. We want to take care of our

00:21:46.860 friends as opposed to what they've been doing to us, which is not taking care of us at all,

00:21:51.320 just exploiting us. And you have made raise a great point about,

00:21:54.160 we don't know what their profit margin is. Clearly it's above 15%. Oh, there,

00:21:58.820 or they would not have rolled over so easily. They don't, we don't know because they don't tell

00:22:02.900 us, but clearly it's a good deal for them or they wouldn't have taken it. And, um, Trump will get no

00:22:08.100 credit for it, but he deserves some. Um, I want to pick up on the point about, will the, will the

00:22:13.740 naysayers now admit they were wrong? You know, there are certain things that we try not to comment on

00:22:19.120 because I'm humble enough to realize I don't know anything about them. Economics is not my strong

00:22:24.880 suit and I would never make any pretense otherwise, but that's one of the reasons why I said to my

00:22:30.400 audience, I don't know. I don't, I really don't know. I know enough to stay humble and to wait and

00:22:35.360 see. And, uh, others took a different route, went out there and acted like experts and now they are

00:22:40.540 embarrassed. Um, but to his credit, somebody like Bill Maher, who took a shot and not surprisingly

00:22:46.100 predicted doom and gloom, um, has come back to say the following. Listen to this on a stop four.

00:22:52.940 I remember I, along with probably most people were saying at the beginning, oh, you know,

00:22:59.180 by the 4th of July, somebody had to think of how the country was, the economy was going to be tanked

00:23:05.260 by then. And I was kind of like, well, that seems right to me, but that didn't happen. Let's work

00:23:12.540 first from the reality of that, not from, I just hate Donald Trump because that's boring

00:23:17.820 and doesn't get us anywhere and lead you to dishonesty because the truth is, I don't know

00:23:23.260 what his strategy is. I would have thought, and I got to own it, that the cut, that these tariffs

00:23:29.840 were going to fucking sink this economy by this time. And they didn't.

00:23:34.960 Now, what other leftist is going to say that, Victor?

00:23:41.240 Very, very few. And you know, when you mentioned NATO, remember when Donald Trump told, that was in

00:23:47.180 2017, he told the NATO ministers that they were making a big mistake with the Nordstrom pipeline

00:23:52.760 too, and they shouldn't, they should end their reliance on Putin's national, and they all laughed

00:23:57.840 at him. I remember that very clearly. And then the other things he warned them, he said that your

00:24:02.760 fertility rate, your borders are unsustainable, this wind and solar was going to destroy the

00:24:08.700 German economy, all of that, he said. And then he said, if you're not, if you don't go up to 2%,

00:24:14.080 he said that almost eight years, nine years ago, he said, if you don't go up to 2%, you've got

00:24:19.280 Putin right on your borders. And looking back is the best thing they ever did was when 23 of the 30

00:24:26.200 nations met that 2%, because when Putin did invade, they had spent another $100 billion on

00:24:32.300 munitions which they were able to supply Ukraine. But again, nobody said anything other than Donald

00:24:38.060 Trump is going to ruin NATO. He's berating these poor NATO ministers, and he's disrupted the post-war

00:24:45.320 Atlantic order. It was really, none of that was true. NATO is stronger than it ever has. We got two

00:24:52.980 great members, Finland and Sweden, that have joined. It's going to spend another $400 billion. There is no

00:24:58.800 reliance with the Nord Stream pipeline anymore. So everything, I think Bill Maher was really right

00:25:06.200 about that. It creates dishonesty in people who are not known to be dishonest, but they have some

00:25:11.800 fixation, psychological addiction to Donald Trump, and they can't, that just clouds all of their

00:25:18.680 judgment. And they lose, they lose, you know, their reputations because they're not reliable,

00:25:23.900 disinterested thinkers anymore because of Trump. Exactly right. No, it's pathetic, but it's wonderful

00:25:32.020 to see them humiliated. I have to admit, like it's, these are the kind of moments where you know who to

00:25:36.700 trust, right? Go back and anybody who predicted doom and gloom, A, understand they were very, very wrong,

00:25:42.240 and B, see if they own it. See if they own it and say, I was wrong and I screwed up and my analysis was

00:25:50.320 off. President Trump nailed it. I mean, it's just, it's quite a day for, for Trump. And I imagine we're

00:25:56.420 going to get to get some more announcements before August 1st, which I think, is it Friday? Is it

00:26:00.040 August 1st, Friday? Yeah, it's Friday because that's when the deadline is for these deals to

00:26:08.500 come through. Just one point on these Democrats, all of whom predicted everything was going to be

00:26:12.980 terrible and we were all going to be bankrupt and so on. This is one of the reasons why they have the

00:26:16.740 lowest approval rating ever, right? You saw this, the Wall Street Journal just came out with a poll

00:26:21.880 and it's just absolutely terrible. It's got literally their lowest rating in 35 years that

00:26:29.820 63% of voters hold an unfavorable view of the Democratic Party, the highest share since journal

00:26:37.880 polls dating back to 1990. 63%. A mere 8% of voters view the Democrats, quote, very favorably.

00:26:49.080 19% view the Republican Party very favorably. And 54% of voters see the GOP unfavorably.

00:26:57.020 So that they're not doing great either, but the Democrats are far, far worse. Nearly two thirds of

00:27:00.780 the country disapprove of that party. And so now as a result, they're planning on holding town hall

00:27:06.960 meetings across the country to make the case against Trump's agenda and his, quote, norm-breaking

00:27:13.480 governing style, Victor. That's the problem, see, the norms. Well, you know, the Quinnipiac was a

00:27:19.940 liberal poll. They came out and said only 16% have a positive view of the Democratic Congress.

00:27:27.720 And then the question is, why is that? They never say, why is that? And if you look at their signature

00:27:32.520 issues, the border, defund the police, open borders, de facto amnesty, what we saw in Afghanistan,

00:27:42.280 all of the economy, the 9% hyperinflation. And then, of course, the DEI stuff gets people really angry.

00:27:51.600 And then the trans stuff and biological men and women's sport. There's not one issue that they can

00:27:57.320 say we're 55-45 on. And then you say, well, maybe they've got a charismatic Obama that can, you know,

00:28:04.260 persuade Americans to adopt things they otherwise are afraid of or don't like. There's none. All you

00:28:10.820 have is hiking Jeffries with a baseball bat or Schumer screaming and yelling each week or those weird

00:28:18.480 videos where they do kickboxing or they start swearing at people. It's just incoherent. Or Jasmine

00:28:25.360 Crockett's weekly, you know, raging. There's nobody. You mentioned Rahm Emanuel. He is about the only

00:28:33.240 person who may or may not run for president that seems to think, you know what? I went back and

00:28:39.280 looked at the 1992-96 Clinton platform, which got Clinton elected twice with the help of Ross Perot.

00:28:48.720 And that's what I want to go back to. That's the only way they can save themselves.

00:28:52.700 And yet nobody's thinking like that. Maybe he is because he was part of the Clinton shift to the

00:28:58.060 middle. But I don't think they can go to the middle because no one, I think their problem is

00:29:04.140 they know they have to do that in the general election, but they know that anybody who said

00:29:08.540 that would never be nominated. That's Rahm's biggest problem is getting past the primary with

00:29:14.000 his own party. All right. Let's stay on Trump and his comments today. He made remarks on Vladimir

00:29:20.600 Putin, who with whom he's, you know, had ongoing negotiations. And this past weekend, the news was

00:29:26.720 Vladimir Putin sent 300 drones over Ukraine, causing even Poland to scramble jets to try to protect

00:29:33.800 Ukraine. He's very unhappy with Vladimir Putin, who with whom he's tried to negotiate since the

00:29:40.120 beginning of his presidency back in January, second term. And today you could hear the same tone as

00:29:45.500 he had in recent weeks about he seems to be coming to reality when it comes to who Putin is and how

00:29:52.880 Putin, how dishonest he is in these negotiations. And I put that term negotiations in quotes because I

00:29:58.160 think Trump is seems seeming to suggest now it's all been fake. Putin's not been there in good faith.

00:30:03.860 And here's some of that from today. I'm not so interested in talking anymore. He's he talks.

00:30:11.580 We have such nice conversations, such respectful and nice conversations. And then people die the

00:30:17.160 following night in a with a missile going into a town and hitting. I mean, recently, I guess,

00:30:22.640 the nursing home, but they hit other things. Whatever they hit, people die. So I don't know. We'll see what

00:30:29.020 by the way, for the watching audience, he's sitting there next to Keir Starmer where they were there

00:30:34.640 talking about the EU trade deal. So what do you make of it now, Victor? Because Trump's in an

00:30:39.760 interesting position in that he's realizing that Putin cannot be trusted, that Putin is not going to

00:30:45.660 stop in Ukraine absent something else. He's been threatening secondary sanctions and meaning we're

00:30:52.380 going to sanction companies, sorry, countries that continue to do business with Russia and not just

00:30:57.620 directly sanction Russia. He had originally said they have 50 days from July 12th to come to the

00:31:05.300 table with something real and stop the bombing. And today he said, I'm shortening it to 10 to 12 days,

00:31:11.420 which basically cuts the time in half that he had originally given them. But the reason I say he's in

00:31:17.860 an interesting situation is, you know, the MAGA base does not want any escalation between us and Russia

00:31:25.920 and they're over Ukraine. But Trump's coming to this on his own, having tried with Putin and realizing

00:31:33.420 this is not someone proceeding in good faith. So what do you make of it? I think you make a good

00:31:38.100 point by that emphasis that had he had this attitude before he reached out to Putin, he would have had a

00:31:45.300 lot more trouble with the MAGA base. But now he can say to them, I took a lot of flack trying to be fair

00:31:51.940 to Putin. I bent over backwards. And we have no choice unless you want me to do something like

00:31:58.100 Afghanistan and just give up on Ukraine and you know it'll happen. It'll be a humiliation for our

00:32:03.680 entire party if they overrun Kiev. And they can if we stop supporting. So he's gone more than halfway and

00:32:11.020 that's important for his base. I think the problem what he didn't realize is that Putin understands

00:32:17.360 that he already had the Crimea, he already had the Donbass and de facto he knew that Ukraine was not

00:32:25.080 going to be in NATO. And then he's now 50 or 60 miles in many places beyond the Donbass or Crimea.

00:32:32.160 But he's lost a million dead, wounded and missing. And he's got to tell the military and the apparat and

00:32:39.180 the oligarchic class back there. I lost a million casualties and it was worth it because, and they're

00:32:45.640 going to say, because what, Vladimir? We already knew we had Crimea. We were never going to give

00:32:49.760 it back. We were never going to give Donbass back. We knew they weren't going to get in it. What can

00:32:53.880 you show us was worth a million casualties? And so he thinks he's got to keep going westward or he

00:33:00.840 thinks he has to somehow terrorize Ukraine into submission or he thinks the United States is going to bail

00:33:07.400 on Ukraine. And that's not going to happen. And I think that's, so what's either going to happen is

00:33:13.620 that somebody is going to force him to quit on the Russian side, or he's going to see that he's getting

00:33:21.220 very diminishing returns as the casualties mount. He's lost. I don't think Russia ever imagined they

00:33:27.060 would lose that many people and get so little in return from what they started with.

00:33:31.820 So what's likely to happen now? Because Trump, you know, he crossed his MAGA base on Iran. That worked

00:33:38.300 out well. And he tried to cross the MAGA base on Epstein. That didn't work out very well. But this is a

00:33:45.840 big issue. You know, J.D. Vance and many others within the MAGA more isolationist wing, really, as one

00:33:54.900 would think, will be very, very opposed, notwithstanding what they've seen happen here, to any escalation that

00:34:00.640 might make us more at odds with Russia. But you can hear Trump getting there organically. I do not

00:34:06.000 see them just rolling over. J.D. will, because he's a loyal vice president. But, you know, the Republican

00:34:11.340 Party is kind of over the assistance to Ukraine. Yeah, I think he's just going to have to say the

00:34:17.380 only way we're going to have peace is I have to have some leverage. I have no leverage. If we just pull

00:34:23.100 out, he will take Ukraine. And whether you like it or not, you will be blamed for it. And that will be the

00:34:28.480 big campaign issue in 2028. Who lost Ukraine? Because it'll make the pullout from Afghanistan look like

00:34:34.960 nothing. So we're going to continue our help with Ukraine. We've closed our own border. I've done all

00:34:41.820 this, but I don't have any choice. I've got to get the tools to deal with Putin. And he will not deal unless he

00:34:47.840 knows that he can't win. And so that's all he can do. And I think if you look at the polls, most of the

00:34:56.540 people don't like, when you phrase the question, are you going to increase aid? Are you going to get

00:35:01.820 involved? They say no. But if you just keep the aid going and hope that he will finally see that he

00:35:08.280 can't, he can't get much more vis-a-vis the cost, then I think that's the only thing that we can do.

00:35:15.720 And, uh, it's, there's dividends. There's dividends. Yeah. The big thing is the secondary

00:35:22.080 say we've never done that. I really, that's a devastating, that's, that's almost like an act

00:35:28.200 of war. So that means you tell India, for example, if you buy any more Russian oil, you're done with us.

00:35:33.580 You tell China, if you buy, you know, it's against the law in the United States to have a second,

00:35:38.400 when Cesar Chavez had a secondary boycott of California grapes, he, he boycotted Safeway

00:35:44.400 just because they had grapes on the shelf, not that they were endorsing anything.

00:35:48.860 And it was pretty traumatic and it didn't really work. It got him a lot of bad publicity, but

00:35:54.220 that's the next step. And I don't know if Trump wants to take that because unlike all of the

00:35:58.960 hysteria about a trade war, if you have a secondary boycott, that's a pretty radical step.

00:36:04.760 And it, it's radical in the sense it would probably be very much more effective than what

00:36:08.640 we're doing now, but the cost in economic disruption and problems with people or our

00:36:15.600 allies and neutrals would increase as well. And that's, he doesn't want to do anything

00:36:19.540 that's going to mess with the U S economy at all. Because while he really is getting it

00:36:25.280 fired back up again, you can see that. And it's thanks to a number of things, deregulation among

00:36:29.880 them, but the tariffs, yes, that too, um, that the inflation that was inflicted on the American

00:36:35.240 people by Joe Biden continues to loom large. Yes, it's down to 2.9%, but they're still having a

00:36:40.880 massive hangover from the Biden years. And you can see it, you know, the daily guru over at CNN,

00:36:47.440 he was out there last week. He was talking about how, how much the Democrats hate their own party

00:36:52.880 and how much America hates the Democrat party. But then he followed up with a report on where

00:36:57.440 independents are right now with Trump. And you'll watch this report on the heels of this report.

00:37:03.920 He pivots to explaining the thing they're really unhappy over is inflation, which even though it's

00:37:11.320 down under Trump, they're still feeling it. So they blame the guy in charge, but here are the numbers

00:37:16.160 with Trump and independence. And this is why secondary sanctions, in my view, he may not do not,

00:37:22.480 not with the big countries that we trade with, because he doesn't want to do anything that's

00:37:26.000 going to hurt our economy in any way here at Watch. We are talking about independence,

00:37:32.000 Mr. Berman. I will say this is the biggest warning sign, the biggest danger sign for President Trump

00:37:37.760 in his second term so far. Why is that? Because it does not appear that there is a bottom to which

00:37:43.640 Donald's support can't fall to. What are we talking about? Trump's not approverating

00:37:47.180 with independence. You know, there was all this hubbub about Gallup that came out this past week.

00:37:51.460 You see, back in January, it was minus two points. Now it's minus 35 points. But what's

00:37:55.880 important here is Gallup is largely matching the average. Back in January in the average,

00:38:00.920 Trump's net approval rating with independence was minus three. Look at where it's fallen to now,

00:38:05.060 minus 29 points. That is a drop of over 25 points with the key part of the electorate.

00:38:11.400 If you're not winning among independents, you're probably not winning overall.

00:38:14.840 And when your net approval rating is minus 29 points, you are definitely not winning overall

00:38:19.640 when you're that low with independence. It's just the size of the drop. I mean,

00:38:22.640 it's staggering. It's huge.

00:38:25.220 It is huge. He's taken a tumble there with independence. But again, the tail end of this

00:38:30.400 goes into inflation, which seems to be what's upsetting them.

00:38:35.620 It's very funny because if you look at the Wall Street Journal op-ed page, they warned us that

00:38:42.020 terrorists would cause a trade war and it didn't happen. But at the same time,

00:38:46.640 they were urging a secondary boycott of anybody who bought oil from Ukraine. That is a tax. That

00:38:54.580 is going to be a trade. That would be 10 times worse than any tariff if we did that. It would

00:38:59.380 be so disruptive because these are really big countries like China and India. And if you just

00:39:05.160 simply cut off all aid with China or all, excuse me, all trade with China, all trade with India,

00:39:11.340 it would be a disaster for the world economy. But it would really, that would spike inflation.

00:39:16.400 But I don't understand why people who have argued, let's be moderate about tariffs, then suddenly go

00:39:21.980 whole hog on something we've never even done before. We've had tariffs before, but we've never

00:39:27.740 secondary boycotted huge countries like they're talking about. I think it's a bad thing. A lot of it,

00:39:35.940 I think of the independence a lot. Donald Trump's trademark is he's decisive, he's transparent,

00:39:43.120 and he doesn't give a blank what people think. And the Epstein thing hurt him. Everybody said it was

00:39:50.840 going to hurt him with a base. It hurt him more, I think, with independence because they said, well,

00:39:54.820 he's just another politician. They said one thing and then they did the other. And the best thing that

00:39:59.240 he could do is just say, you know, we've had mixed, just say we've had mixed signals. It's,

00:40:05.420 we're just, anything that comes across my desk that's about Epstein and is legal, I'm going to

00:40:11.040 let it go. And you, the people have to use your own intelligence to sort out who was an innocent

00:40:15.760 bystander, who was collateral versus who was culpable. And I trust your judgment. And that's

00:40:21.180 what I'm going to do. And because I think that's hurt him with a lot of people.

00:40:25.680 Yeah. I was going to say, I don't know if you saw this over the weekend, but the Democrats

00:40:30.080 attempted to take a shot at Trump on inflation over the weekend and it was a disaster. They

00:40:35.440 tweeted out this, this graph, this is, and the graph read Trump's America, U.S. grocery prices

00:40:43.500 reached record highs, they say in 2025. And yet they show in this graph, it goes from October of

00:40:51.700 2019, where it was low, low, low, low, low, all the way to like October 21. Here's the, here's the,

00:40:59.060 the chart. And then it goes, it starts to spike under who's president again, October, 2021,

00:41:04.760 higher in 2022, higher in 2023, higher in October, 2024, which is where the chart ends October,

00:41:11.520 2024. I know it. And they had to delete it. It was so wrong. It was weird. It was right. It just

00:41:17.980 wasn't about 2025. Keep going. They released it for 24 hours. I think everybody looked at it. I know

00:41:23.620 I did. And I thought, wow, you know, and then you had, I remember Janet Yellen saying it was like a

00:41:29.500 Janet Yellen statement that this is not going to cause any inflation at all. When you were borrowing

00:41:34.240 this up, what eventually been 7 trillion. And Larry Summers warned him about it. Remember that he

00:41:40.040 said, this is the biggest mistake you could do. We're going to get a hyper. He was actually very

00:41:43.940 prescient on that. And I don't know why the fact they did that either shows that nobody's in control

00:41:52.260 of the DNC or they have no other argument to offer except dissimulation because anybody with a right,

00:41:58.580 a teenager would not have done that. It was so crazy. I know. Who doesn't actually look at the,

00:42:02.900 at the, the, you know, the axes on the, on the bar chart to see, uh, wait a minute. That one

00:42:08.160 expires while we're still literally at the time when Biden was about to lose. Well, Kamala Harris was about

00:42:13.180 to lose as president. You know, one thing you mentioned, I wanted to, I want to point out

00:42:16.580 the Democrats and the, how unpopular they are back to that discussion. Um, one of the things that

00:42:22.280 Trump has done is to roll back some of these ridiculous green energy initiatives and just

00:42:26.240 green energy, green energy pushes my own personal problem is with the windmills that are going up and

00:42:33.720 down our shorelines, absolutely ruining our shorelines. America has some of the most beautiful coastal lines

00:42:38.920 in the world. These things have been getting put up and with greater frequency. They're a complete

00:42:44.340 eyesore. They kill sea life. They're killing off whales and dolphins, by the way, and they produce

00:42:51.040 almost no energy and they're full of toxins. And we're going to do a full report for you guys on this

00:42:56.200 soon, but they're full of toxins. And, uh, thanks to Trump, it's been stopped. His, he said no more

00:43:03.160 approval. And we're pulling the approvals that the Biden administration was granting in,

00:43:07.220 in rapid fire numbers, especially as his term expired. So that yesterday I'm down here at the

00:43:12.780 Jersey shore where they were about to get this scourge. They've already had some, but in even

00:43:17.980 greater numbers, thanks to Joe Biden, who had green lighted all of these windmill projects along

00:43:22.720 the shore. And they were going to be building them close in close into shore. So, I mean, all the

00:43:27.320 beautiful coastline views for everybody, it's not like a rich person thing. It's like working class,

00:43:31.920 middle class, upper class, whatever you were all going to be staring at, instead of sunsets,

00:43:35.880 windmills that don't do anything other than toxify your water and kill your sea life,

00:43:42.220 Trump stopped it. So I'm driving my car down here the other day and I see a person,

00:43:46.900 because they're very common down here with a bumper sticker saying, stop the windmills.

00:43:51.020 And then beneath that, she has a Harris Walsh bumper sticker, Victor. I really wanted to yell at her.

00:43:59.700 They've been stopped and you can thank President Trump. You know nothing.

00:44:06.040 Yeah. And I feel the same way about these huge solar farms. California under Newsom is trying to

00:44:12.680 do what Spain do, get a moment where they can say that at 11 in the morning or two in the afternoon,

00:44:18.200 all the power consumed was from renewable solar wind. So when I drive the three hours over to work

00:44:25.200 from my farm, you wouldn't believe these mega solar farms. They have some of the most fertile

00:44:30.180 farmland in the world that was producing wheat and cotton and lettuce and tree fruit. And they've

00:44:38.660 destroyed it all. And there's thousands of acres of these solar farms. I'm not just talking,

00:44:43.100 you know, quarter mile, just for miles in California along the west side of the valley. And it's taken out

00:44:50.340 some really valuable farmland. It's ugly. And the weird thing about it is at nighttime or basically

00:44:58.460 at dawn and dusk, we import enormous amounts of coal-driven electricity from places like Utah or

00:45:07.660 Arizona. But just so we can say that we have wind and solar. And when you go by some of the passes in

00:45:13.900 California, you look at these wind farms, Megan, at any given day that looks like about 20% aren't even

00:45:19.240 working. And you think, my gosh, this thing doesn't even work. The blade is missing or it's not moving.

00:45:26.420 What do they do with a blade? What do they do with all that stuff? They were the ones that told us

00:45:31.500 everything has to be recyclable. And we have to protect bird migrations. And they told us about

00:45:38.300 farmland. You can't diss this deeply because you might hurt the three-spotted mouse or something.

00:45:43.240 And then you see that when it comes to wind and solar, all environmental regulations,

00:45:47.500 all wildlife, because it's on the left, we just go plow ahead. Because who's going to deregulate

00:45:54.820 us? Because it's sort of like the LGBT analysis. We can put, I should say the trans, we can put

00:46:01.800 biological males into women's sports and forget about operating on children when they're really

00:46:07.780 young or the effects of all these drugs and surgeries on people or what it does to women

00:46:14.700 who've tried so hard to get equity. And we're just going to throw it out the way because it's a left

00:46:19.060 wing issue. And therefore, there's no criticism at all. And that's what's so scary about the wind and

00:46:25.800 solar. They don't apply their own standards to it. And it's not going to work. And 20 years from now,

00:46:30.800 we're going to look back and say, oh my gosh, we've got a multi-billion dollar, multi-trillion

00:46:36.680 dollar task of tearing up all these stupid things and restoring the landscape to its original

00:46:43.220 condition. And what do we do? What do we do with the toxic windmill blades now? I don't know.

00:46:49.160 Of an airplane. One blade is the width of a commercial grade airplane full of toxins,

00:46:55.740 which, I mean, that's just one blade on one windmill. Imagine how many we're going to have to

00:46:59.260 take down. What do we do? Do we bury it? It's just a nightmare. It needs to be stopped in its

00:47:04.220 tracks. And thankfully, it is happening. It is. That's one of the best issues he's bought.

00:47:12.500 Because when Donald Trump talks about the damage to birds and wildlife, that sets the left go crazy

00:47:17.940 that he's in the environment. It's amazing. It's exactly right. Because this is one of those things

00:47:21.920 where this is an environmentalist problem, not necessarily like the green energy folks don't

00:47:27.440 really care about the environment. They're so obsessed with the atmosphere and the ozone and

00:47:31.740 all that. They don't care how many birds get killed or whales get killed. They'll deny that it's even a

00:47:36.460 problem. Remember, Trump mentioned it on Joe Rogan, and they tried to fact check him. And it was true.

00:47:40.400 Michael Schellenberg did a whole documentary about this. Okay, I want to shift gears to something else

00:47:45.440 in the news, which is very disturbing. There was a fight over the weekend in Cincinnati. And I want to

00:47:52.960 state up front. We don't know how it got started. I have no idea. Obviously, some charged comments of

00:47:58.000 some sort were made. Here's all we know. There was a music festival happening in downtown. Police say

00:48:02.740 it's not connected, but there were a lot of people on foot. We don't know what sparked the fight. But

00:48:08.100 witnesses told the Fox local affiliate that one of the groups made racial comments. And then the blows

00:48:14.760 started. We don't know who made the racial comments. But I will submit for the record, irrespective

00:48:20.500 of who made the racial comments. What happened next was completely out of hand. And oh, by the way,

00:48:27.740 totally illegal to the point where now you have the vice president of the United States commenting on

00:48:34.360 it, the head of the civil rights division at DOJ commenting on it. And it's getting a lot of

00:48:38.920 attention because what you see in the video for the listening audience is a white man and a white woman

00:48:44.460 getting a beating by a group of black people. And we don't know, again, largely black assailants,

00:48:52.520 what got it started. But it's absolutely awful to watch. Here's some of the video as a man in a

00:48:59.340 white T-shirt gets chased to the street, shoved to the sidewalk by two others to punch him and kick

00:49:03.680 when he's down. And eventually they run in, they stomp on the man's head, his torso and, and more. Here it is.

00:49:10.340 This is men and women stomping on this man mercilessly.

00:49:32.580 There's zero humanity there. I'm going to play the rest of the tape and talk about JD's comments

00:49:43.700 in a minute, but initial thoughts on it, Victor. If you just change the roles and if that was a

00:49:49.580 black elderly person or somebody over 50 and people were doing three things that you saw in

00:49:56.280 that video, they were laughing about that person being clobbered. They were more than, I mean,

00:50:01.740 it was outnumbered. They were hitting them. And the worst thing I thought about was women were

00:50:06.280 going in there and stepping on people and kicking them in the head. And they hit a woman and knocked

00:50:10.780 her out. And the other women, they came in. So it was a nightmare. And if the roles had been reversed,

00:50:16.480 we would be talking in George Floyd terms or something like that.

00:50:21.080 It would be a story on every newspaper in America. And today it isn't. Quick pause,

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00:51:33.840 So Victor, we showed one of the videos out of Cincinnati and the beginning of that video

00:51:38.400 shows the white man who took the massive beat down, what launch, what looked like, at least in this

00:51:44.320 clip to be the first physical assault where he reaches across and appears to like slap a black man

00:51:53.360 who then starts punching him. But then the whole mob gives him a, just an absolute mob beat down.

00:52:00.820 That is merciless. That is not self-defense under the law. All of those people should be arrested.

00:52:05.220 He could be arrested too, for the initial physical touch of the, which was an assault and battery.

00:52:10.800 But what happened afterward was so grossly disproportionate. It's become national news,

00:52:15.640 at least to the point where we're commenting on it and the vice president's commenting on it,

00:52:19.600 though you will not see an article on this, uh, at least not as of today in the associated press,

00:52:26.940 PBS, New York times, NPR, ABC, NBC, CNN, Washington post, or MSNBC. Notwithstanding the fact that then we

00:52:33.420 see a white woman who seems to try to want to help this man. We don't know whether they were together,

00:52:38.920 try to approach the crowd to see if she can like help him. And she gets the same or very similar

00:52:46.580 treatment. At the end of this video, I'm just going to warn the audience. She looks

00:52:50.440 deceased. She's not. Both of them are going to be okay. But here's, here's the video.

00:52:55.620 The white man's not standing. The crowd seems to have him. The white woman's in there. She gets

00:53:06.100 attacked by a black woman. She gets punched in the face by a black man. She's now down on the

00:53:10.800 ground, staring blankly at the sky. Someone's trying to drag her.

00:53:22.580 So that's, that's what happened with her. Uh, uh, uh, uh, two people, at least a black woman and a

00:53:28.900 black man beat her down. And that's what led to the vice president, JD Vance weighing in when asked

00:53:34.920 about this incident, um, while giving remarks earlier today, here it is. I don't know the full

00:53:41.260 context. I don't know how the fight started, but the one part that I saw that was really gruesome

00:53:46.200 is you had a grown man who sucker punched a middle-aged woman. And where I come from,

00:53:52.360 at least when you have a grown man who sucker punches a middle-aged woman, that person ought to

00:53:57.160 go to jail for a very long time. And frankly, he's lucky there weren't some better people around

00:54:01.780 because they would have handled it themselves. But if they're not going to hit the cops in

00:54:05.760 Cincinnati, the law enforcement, you've got to prosecute people. We have got to make great

00:54:10.780 American cities safe again for families and children. If you want to take your, your wife

00:54:15.180 or your children out for a meal, you shouldn't be worried about street violence. And the only way

00:54:19.780 to destroy that street violence is to take the thugs who engage in that violence and throw their

00:54:24.640 asses in prison. How about that, Victor? Strong remarks from the vice president.

00:54:29.800 Well, I think he's correct. Again, it was the reaction of the crowd that a lot of people were

00:54:35.660 cheering that on. Women that didn't jumped in, that had nothing to do with it, thought they could

00:54:40.560 get an opportunistic slug. There was a guy who body slammed himself on somebody who was prone,

00:54:46.500 tried to injure him. So I'm sure it was a he said, he said about the original altercation. But at that

00:54:54.060 point, people could have just backed off and let two people finish it off or try to come to an

00:55:00.580 agreement. But the crowd went in. And it was the idea there was many against one that they were

00:55:06.120 bullying that women were going and involving themselves and kicking. And to be frank, I mean,

00:55:12.500 there's a racial component to it. But I think we got to get away from the I think the end of DEI will be

00:55:18.760 very valuable to the country at large. I think there's a sense that with critical legal theory

00:55:24.420 and critical racial theory, this idea that there are there are entire collective groups that have

00:55:32.020 grievances against society. And therefore, we have separate expectations of them or accountability of

00:55:39.460 them. And the same thing about the mass looting of stores that we kind of just condone. And you know,

00:55:44.680 when you read critical legal theory or critical racial theory, it goes like this, if I could

00:55:48.960 condense it down that the only reason that looting is against the law is because wealthy white males

00:55:55.700 don't need to steal Snickers bars or loafers or sneakers. And therefore, they made rules against

00:56:04.040 it. So other people in real need could not do that. That's basically what it is. And so I think it's

00:56:11.100 going to be the idea that you're not going to have what they call affinity graduations at colleges

00:56:17.520 anymore that are racially segregated. No more theme houses, which were segregated dorms. And I think

00:56:24.020 we're going to have to integrate and assimilate in a way that we used to do with a melting pot. But

00:56:29.220 this idea that particular groups feel that they can say things about something. So when you have

00:56:35.120 I'll just give you one example. When Mamdami says that he's going to target whiter neighborhoods and

00:56:40.940 nobody, I mean, what does that mean? He's an Indian American and he's statistically from the most

00:56:47.100 affluent ethnic group in the United States. And yet he says, and he also applied to be an African

00:56:53.520 American applicant for college. But that's right. The whole thing is so distorted. And so race should be

00:57:01.200 incidental, not essential to who we are. But once you say it's essential, and that we make this

00:57:06.080 binary, that everybody who is white, and it really started with Barack Obama when he changed affirmative

00:57:13.080 action into diversity, equity, inclusion, because it basically said class doesn't matter anymore.

00:57:18.540 You can be wealthy, you can be privileged, you can be Oprah, it doesn't matter. As long as you're not

00:57:23.820 white, and particularly not white male, you're on the victim, victimized, oppressed side of the ledger.

00:57:29.920 And therefore you deserve repertory treatment, or some consideration, or situational ethics,

00:57:36.380 and all the other people don't. And when you have the largest group of impoverished people,

00:57:41.480 not statistically, but in numbers, so-called white people, and you realize the people in East

00:57:46.500 Palestine, Ohio have nothing in common with Rachel Maddow, or any other person, media talking,

00:57:52.860 or Chuck Schumer, or any of these elites, then it's, you know, it's, it's kind of strange as to say

00:58:00.900 white, white this, white that, or when we had Lloyd Austin and Millie testifying about white privilege,

00:58:07.700 white rage, white supremacy, they were going to investigate it. They, they released that a year

00:58:12.940 and a half later, they found no systematic race, systemic racism in ranks, but they did discourage

00:58:18.800 people from enlisting in the military, and then they denied that they did it. So if people feel that

00:58:26.200 they're just individuals, and whatever they do, they are responsible as an individual, I think we'll

00:58:32.580 see less of this. And so they really need to just say, case by case, did you stomp somebody?

00:58:39.000 This is the statute. This is what we're going to indict you are, and we don't care. And a lot of

00:58:44.900 the damage was also done in 2020. And for four months, we had rioting, looting, $2 billion in

00:58:52.120 damage, 35 people killed, you know, 1,500 officers injured. 1,500, yes. And then we had Camilla Harris

00:59:01.780 said, this is going to go on, it should go on, it's going to go on all of the, and every, we had Tim

00:59:06.460 Waltz's wife saying she opened the window and could smell the, the, this burning thing. The

00:59:11.560 daughter was bragging that she was going to tip off about the National Guard deployment. It was

00:59:16.200 just a, his, that set a stage that there were no consequences. And, um, you know, the left is very

00:59:23.480 strange. When you went into the Capitol, you could walk into the Capitol illegally, but you could be

00:59:28.820 completely peaceful. You could spend two years in jail for that. So they, they can, they can.

00:59:34.040 Not one of these people is going to jail for two years. Not one of these people. It'll be a miracle

00:59:38.320 if they arrest all of them. No, and they have to, if they don't, if they don't go to jail, then,

00:59:43.700 then basically we're sending a message that the color of your skin or your claims to victimhood

00:59:49.500 then exempt you from the type of behavior and the consequences of that behavior that's expected

00:59:56.040 of every other American. And the weird thing about it is. Especially if it, if it emerges that,

01:00:00.780 that this man in any way uttered a racial slur, there is not evidence of that right now, to be

01:00:07.000 clear. Uh, nothing, nothing that is in reportable form. There's online speculation. Uh, but if it

01:00:13.380 emerges worst case scenario, trying to strong man, the argument in the defense of this beating,

01:00:19.060 you're, you're really not going to see charges. You're going to see people equate, you know,

01:00:23.780 a racial slur with physical violence and try to say some in some way, this beat down of this man

01:00:30.180 alone was proportionate. And by the way, I guess would also potentially justify the beat down of

01:00:36.520 the woman who tried to save him. And it wasn't just those two. A third video has now emerged

01:00:42.340 of a third man, third person who happens to be white. This guy's a man, a different one than in the

01:00:48.320 first video, who also got the shit kicked out of him for no apparent reason. Maybe we'll find out

01:00:54.000 there was a verbal slur or something else, but here's that video.

01:00:58.600 Sleep him again.

01:01:00.320 He falls hard to the ground.

01:01:04.700 I got that tool.

01:01:06.880 He's rolling. They're really enjoying his suffering.

01:01:10.500 He has to use the car to get himself to his feet. He can barely move. By the way, the cops did release

01:01:28.000 a statement via NBC's Cincinnati local. The conditions of these people are unknown, but the

01:01:34.100 police president, the president of the police union, Ken Kober, says he believes they were taken

01:01:40.480 to the hospital with, quote, pretty serious injuries for treatment and will be, quote, recovering from

01:01:45.540 this for a while. Go ahead.

01:01:48.080 Yeah, well, he should be also telling us that they are close to arresting the people who did that.

01:01:54.040 And again, a couple of things is if the Democrats think that by ignoring this or the media thinks

01:02:01.280 they don't understand what they're doing, they're just fueling this anger that people

01:02:05.980 feel that the laws apply differently on the basis of your ideology, your sexual orientation,

01:02:12.180 your gender, your race, and it's not applied across the board equally. And it's very ironic

01:02:18.620 because the civil rights movement started to make sure there was equity under the law and

01:02:25.240 that the abuses that people felt during the Jim Crow period were gone forever. And that's

01:02:30.880 what Martin Luther King said. It's the content of your character, not the color of your skin.

01:02:34.480 And now we've gone through DEI and all of these other set-aside programs, special treat. We've

01:02:40.500 created an entire mentality among some people that they're not going to be subject to the same

01:02:47.120 consequences that other people are because they feel they have legitimate grievances. The problem is

01:02:53.440 when you demonize a group and we have white males and you say, you know, at Stanford University,

01:03:00.220 we're only going to let in 9% white males, and they've done that for three consecutive years

01:03:04.780 until recently, then what you're doing is you're just creating the sense that you're not letting

01:03:12.440 them in because they did something wrong. Or you need to have a separate graduation for this group,

01:03:17.900 this group, but we're not going to have a separate graduation for somebody who would absurdly claim,

01:03:23.420 I'm a European-American, we need separate. And because it's not reciprocal, and because we're no longer

01:03:28.860 a 90-10 binary, we're a truly multiracial society, it's not working. The number of victims

01:03:35.900 who have claims against the victimizers are so great. And the victimizers, suppose it, are too small

01:03:43.700 for the amount of victims. Because when you look at all the people who qualify, there's not enough.

01:03:48.580 She's taking her kid around for college tours. You know, it's like getting to be that time of year

01:03:53.200 for rising seniors. And she said she's lost track of the number of land acknowledgements

01:03:59.440 that they have been forced to do. Sometimes multiple land acknowledgements on one college

01:04:05.980 tour. It's not enough to do like one when you kick it off, but like you got to do one at the arts

01:04:10.960 and sciences hall. Then you got to do one at the bio hall. You got to do it over at the PE facilities.

01:04:15.900 It's ridiculous. Oh, I know. I do want to say, they've reported that they've identified,

01:04:24.180 they've identified, this is per Fox News, at least four suspects. They're still trying to identify

01:04:29.760 at least eight more. Again, they describe the injuries of the two people in particular as serious.

01:04:37.140 I don't know about the third man. And then you get this. This is the thing that you're trying to say.

01:04:41.440 It would be one thing. I mean, if this were a group of white people who kick the shit out of

01:04:50.080 three black people, the way we just saw every newspaper in the country, every cable network

01:04:56.580 would be showing the video and would be talking about white supremacy. But because the races are

01:05:01.620 reversed, no one is even touching it. Now, if it comes out that someone uttered a racial slur,

01:05:06.840 mark my words, then they will. Then CNN will get interested because they get to say the evil white

01:05:12.460 man uttered the N word or whatever. Again, I'm making this up. There's no evidence of that right

01:05:16.720 now. And now that'll be a story that they're interested in also because then they can just

01:05:21.600 say they covered it. Right. But it's only going to be permissible to cover once they can blame

01:05:26.580 effectively the white people who were the victims here. And instead, what you have is all the media

01:05:31.700 ignoring it. And here is a thought from the Cincinnati vice mayor. Her name is last name

01:05:37.100 is Kearney. She's a Democrat who she she reacted to the incident as describing it with it was one

01:05:44.380 incident of adults fighting. Adults fighting is what you get, Victor, when it's white people who get a

01:05:53.580 group beat down by black Americans. Yeah, I don't think they understand what how that comes across

01:06:02.000 to people, not conservative, liberal, just anybody that when you do that. The other problem is we have

01:06:09.060 two generations now that grew up in the last 60 years under civil rights legislation, which was needed

01:06:16.660 affirmative action, which was questionable, but was institutionalized under DEI.

01:06:21.320 So if you're a young 18 year old white male and you're applying to a university and you didn't

01:06:26.980 understand why you were not going to get in no matter what your SAT, because you were guilty of

01:06:32.220 something, but they never they never grew up on the what on the old system. So they so that it's very

01:06:38.620 hard to to make that argument. Well, yes, but your father or your grandfather in the South or did this

01:06:44.960 or there was a housing just and you're going to pay for it. And that doesn't work. It not

01:06:51.180 you at some point. You just have to say we're going to treat people as individual.

01:06:55.640 And the problem why we don't is there's so many people invested. I can tell you, I've been in the

01:07:01.000 university for 50 over 50 years. And the number of people that I've watched careers predicated on

01:07:09.320 their race or their gender or their sexual orientation and how they use that. It's just an enormous amount of

01:07:16.860 special interest. And that's one of the reasons that the universe, that's one of the subtexts

01:07:20.840 about the Donald Trump reform of the universe, why they hate him so much, because that's the

01:07:25.520 sacred cow. They they violated the civil rights statutes openly and flagrantly. They violated the

01:07:32.060 2023 Supreme Court and they thought that they were more moral and they were smarter than everybody.

01:07:37.960 And they had a right to do that with their theme houses, graduations, safe spaces,

01:07:41.800 race based admissions, et cetera, et cetera. And when they got called on it, they were just

01:07:47.500 outraged. And so that's right. But they don't they don't understand. Yeah, they don't understand

01:07:51.920 public opinion. And it's not it's not white, black either. It's just there's I live in a 95 percent

01:07:58.760 Hispanic community. I can tell you that most people are sick of it. They just don't want to talk about

01:08:06.160 racial preferences. And, you know, at the same time we were talking about this, I hear from our black

01:08:11.180 viewers on this show all the time. They're sick of this bullshit, too. It's they are. They are

01:08:16.000 who are pushing this on us. You saw that at the almost the same time there was a white male that

01:08:21.400 went into Walmart and start stabbing people. And a black Marine, among other people, was one of the

01:08:26.540 people who stopped and pulled out a gun. So people want to get to the point where we're we're just race

01:08:32.740 neutral. We don't want to get obsession. And the problem is there are so many in the media and

01:08:38.160 academia and politics invested on that. It's going to be hard, but it won't it won't stop until

01:08:43.800 people say, you know what, I'm going to judge people by the content of it. And you can say

01:08:48.460 anything you want about me. You can call me a rate. You can it has no effect at all.

01:08:53.460 And it's not going to stop until the media is is the same in reporting on these incidents like

01:08:59.820 they 100 percent. Again, if the races were reversed, they'd be all over this and they'd be mentioning the

01:09:05.700 race of the participants. But now you get now you get, you know, for example, the vice mayor adults

01:09:13.000 fighting this. Nothing. No mention of the race. You think that same mayor wouldn't be mentioning

01:09:17.760 a group of whites? We saw of a black man if that had been what happened. Obviously, that's not true.

01:09:24.280 By the way, I just want to point this out. There is a new sheriff in town,

01:09:28.020 Harmeet Dillon, who runs the Civil Rights Division under Trump of the DOJ, said as follows. Our federal hate

01:09:33.220 crimes laws apply to all Americans. We will monitor closely how local authorities handle

01:09:40.080 this attack. Nobody in our great nation should be the victim of such a crime. And where race is a

01:09:45.060 motivation, federal law may apply. Go ahead, Victor. Yeah, I think that's important. And we saw it with

01:09:50.540 Trayvon Martin, where the media had to Photoshop the picture of him to show that George Zimmerman was not

01:09:56.540 injured. Or we came up with a weird word. The New York Times invented the word white Hispanic because they were

01:10:02.080 afraid that he was half Latin American. But they got so angry about that. And they said,

01:10:10.140 well, look at him. He's white. Therefore, we can call him white Hispanic. And because they did not

01:10:15.180 want him to have any claims of victimhood, they only wanted Trayvon Martin. They didn't want it

01:10:19.700 between a Hispanic and black. They wanted it white on black. And so what they do is try to emphasize

01:10:27.020 and create and churn all of this racial tension. And the only thing I can say is that people are

01:10:32.740 it won't also stop until people just tune them out and do not listen to them. And that's already

01:10:38.620 happening with a lot of the legacy media. And this is this is remember this is I'm thinking of Sage

01:10:43.720 Steele now, former ESPN sports commentator and now independent and amazing. And she she got in

01:10:49.560 trouble with ESPN because she made a comment about Barack Obama. She also had questions about the

01:10:53.980 vaccine. But she made a comment about Barack Obama, who said like he identified as black

01:10:59.600 and like Sage, he's actually a mixed race. He has a white mother and a black father. And that's exactly

01:11:04.780 what Sage has. And she was making her own honest reaction to that, which is like, OK, if that's how

01:11:09.800 you identify. But to me, it feels wrong and it kind of feels like I'm disrespecting my mom and that part

01:11:16.440 of me and my mom's influence over me. Like I just she wasn't really down with that way of him

01:11:21.860 identifying. Well, that wasn't OK with ESPN. That's that was obvious given the blowback she

01:11:27.700 got. And you and I both know if she came out and was like, right on, you know, if you're black at

01:11:34.680 all, you've got one black parent, you're black. And that's what he should be saying. And screw the

01:11:39.100 people who go with mixed race, because that's just you trying to hedge and telegraph. You've got white

01:11:44.060 too. You know, ESPN, they would have loved that. She would have gotten a promotion for that. But

01:11:49.580 you can't you can't say anything that is in any way critical of of a minority racial group,

01:11:56.560 especially blacks in America. That was what Barack Obama learned very quickly when he ran for office.

01:12:01.640 Remember that in his memoir, he said he just sort of only when he went to a campus, he only he wanted

01:12:08.080 to only hang out with black people. He didn't he had to break up with his white girlfriend. And then he

01:12:13.520 he really threw his own grandmother who had actually scrimped and saved to put him in prep

01:12:18.020 school when he said she was a typical white person who was unduly afraid of black males approaching

01:12:23.140 her. So he he he didn't want to be known as a multiracial or nonracial person. He really wanted

01:12:30.600 to emphasize only half of his own ancestry. And it was very sad because when you look actually looked

01:12:37.040 at his grandmother and all of that, she was the one person in his life who made sure that he had

01:12:42.140 access to a, you know, a competitive education. And she was a bank, she worked up, worked herself way,

01:12:48.020 way up in a bank through hard work. And yet you never got any appreciation of that. And to be called

01:12:53.880 a typical white person was pretty bad. And we the irony is we're back to the 116th rule of the old

01:13:01.340 antebellum South, where if you had just one touch of black ancestry, then you were considered black,

01:13:08.080 and therefore you were discriminated and treated terribly. Now it's just the opposite. And that I've

01:13:13.220 all I've asked a lot of university affirmative action officers. So this you're letting in on the

01:13:17.780 race. So tell me how you do it. And they won't tell you. And I said, well, you're using the 116th

01:13:25.000 Confederate idea. Oh, that's sick of it. Why would you mention? I said, well, then tell me the criteria

01:13:29.560 that you're using, because everything has to have criteria. And they do have ratios like that.

01:13:34.600 They really do. That allows someone to claim that they're of a minority. And you can see where it

01:13:40.860 all leads. It leads to a continue Elizabeth Warren abuse of a system, phony credentials, phony

01:13:47.860 personas. And it's got to stop. People just have to say, I don't really care.

01:13:52.840 I've never had one of those full like DNA profiles. I'm going to do it because I too have high cheekbones,

01:13:58.160 just like my mama, my papa. And it's very possible I've got some Native American in me. And I also

01:14:04.120 would like a landed acknowledgement when I walk into any college camp. I want it under my feet,

01:14:09.260 wherever I stand. I insist on having it because, you know, like Elizabeth Warren, I just have this

01:14:13.960 feeling based on my high cheekbones that I am. So I'm going to start checking the box or maybe I'll

01:14:18.540 have my kids check the box. That'll really make people happy. I do want to spend a minute on that

01:14:23.280 Walmart hero, because one of the things I always pray for is that my children will be strong and will

01:14:30.000 also help and protect those who aren't. It's like one of the main things you hope for your children,

01:14:35.300 right, that they'll develop their own strength. And I mean, emotional, not just physical, but like

01:14:38.720 emotional and mental strength, but that they'll also use those gifts to help people who aren't as

01:14:43.400 fortunate in that lane. And this guy in the Walmart in Michigan did it. To me, he's another Daniel

01:14:50.240 Penny. But, you know, he's not getting the Daniel Penny treatment, given the circumstances, which I

01:14:57.580 understand. He's universally, as far as I know, being hailed as a hero. So it's Traverse City,

01:15:02.220 Michigan. According to the sheriff's office, the attacker entered a store in the mall around 5 p.m.

01:15:08.960 wielding a knife, ultimately injuring 11, six critically, five seriously. The attacker's a 42-year-old

01:15:16.920 local homeless man. Enter Derek Perry, not to be confused with Daniel Penny. The names are kind of

01:15:23.540 similar. This is Derek Perry. He ran toward the suspect while others fled. Here's Derek on the

01:15:29.900 screen for the listening audience. He does happen to be a black man. He ran toward the suspect while

01:15:35.660 everyone else fled. I'd be fleeing too. I'd be terrified. He ran toward him. He's a Marine veteran.

01:15:42.260 There you go. And in the video, you're going to see here, he shouts at the attacker while

01:15:47.660 brandishing a small handgun. He, he, Perry had a small handgun. Here, here he is. Watch this.

01:15:53.880 That's our hero, Derek Perry.

01:16:23.700 Yelling at him to drop the knife, to lay down, taking command of the situation. His own daughter

01:16:28.640 wrote on Facebook, heroism. His heroism is a proud daughter moment for her. His daughter-in-law added

01:16:34.920 that this veteran is a true hero. Those stories are amazing. And this is, look, you need these heroes.

01:16:44.480 This is why we don't prosecute the Daniel pennies, why we shouldn't, right? You need, in particular,

01:16:50.920 American men who know what they're doing. Daniel Penny, too, was a armed forces veteran to stand up

01:16:59.100 when they see someone in trouble and to do the thing that 99% of the rest of us are too scared to do.

01:17:05.300 Yeah, absolutely. And once he did that, other people came to his aid because they, they wanted to

01:17:13.260 participate in something noble. And, and I think that's going to, I think that it's an indication

01:17:21.800 when you see that, that people, and that's unfortunate, have lost, have lost confidence in

01:17:27.760 the ability of law enforcement. And it's not law enforcement. It's at the prosecutorial level.

01:17:33.220 They've lost confidence in the deterrent factor of the law. They don't, they feel that the law does

01:17:38.500 not deter criminals anymore, or that people, because of their step, maybe if you're a person's

01:17:43.620 homeless, he thinks that we're so concerned about the homeless, he can go in and do something like

01:17:47.920 that without consequences. But I can tell you earlier generations would say certain things that

01:17:53.180 people do, they would have never done before because they were terrified of the consequences

01:17:57.620 from law enforcement or, you know, I can remember in high school, I don't know, 45 years ago that

01:18:06.640 no one, if you shoplifted, that was a stain. They, they printed your name in the paper, your age,

01:18:13.960 your parents' address in a small town. And you were looking at six to eight weeks in juvenile hall

01:18:21.100 for a candy bar. And everybody said, you know, if you were with somebody and you saw him pick up a

01:18:26.760 candy bar, you'd say, you put that down. I don't want anything. I don't want to be near you. They

01:18:31.160 were so, you know, terrified of the consequences. And, and I, I wish I could say we all, private guilt

01:18:37.660 was really a good deterrent. We all feel bad about things, but that earlier society was based on a

01:18:43.780 shame culture. You didn't do things because you didn't want to shame your family, your community,

01:18:49.080 your friends, and you, and we've completely got away from that. We don't print the names of people

01:18:54.780 that are charged. We, and we think that's civilized and enlightened, but it's really led to a loss of

01:19:01.360 confidence and deterrence and the law in general. There is still some public shaming via the internet,

01:19:07.720 which, you know, in some cases works and makes sense. It happened this weekend in a glorious fashion

01:19:13.680 when a member of a Florida County school board, she was the chairman is, is the chairman woman of the

01:19:24.160 Alachua County public schools, uh, board. Her name is Sarah Rockwell had some thoughts on the death of

01:19:32.240 Hulk Hogan. And the thoughts were expressed as follows. Oh, did Hulk die? I didn't even know.

01:19:39.880 Good. One less MAGA in the world. This woman is the chairperson of the school board, which it's

01:19:50.620 Florida. And I guarantee you, there's going to be a hefty amount of MAGA loving Republicans in her

01:19:56.300 school district who send their children underneath this woman, uh, to work for her teachers and the

01:20:01.560 school board. And this, she felt totally comfortable writing that she was celebrating the relatively

01:20:09.640 early 71 year old death of Hulk Hogan because she wanted one less MAGA in the world. Victor,

01:20:17.120 she was publicly shamed. She then had to apologize. Oh, she's, she, it made sure you made a cruel and

01:20:23.520 flippant comment. She tried to diminish it by saying it was from my personal Facebook account.

01:20:28.880 And, um, she deeply regrets it now, but there are others down there, including a GOP state committee

01:20:35.220 woman who is saying she should resign this. There is no way that the parents in this school district

01:20:41.880 are going to be able to trust this woman to oversee a curriculum that includes Republican families or

01:20:49.060 their children. What are your thoughts? Well, I'm kind of a cynic, but I don't think she's sincere

01:20:55.000 because had people either not said anything about that comment posting, or if they praised her,

01:21:00.300 she'd be, she wouldn't have, she'd be perfectly happy today. Reminds me of the people in general,

01:21:05.840 but also the minor democratic official after the flooding in Texas, where she basically said these

01:21:11.580 people had it coming to them because they were of a particular race or they were exclusionary or some

01:21:17.100 people posted, well, you didn't believe in, uh, climate change. Therefore this flooding of the river

01:21:22.720 is what you deserve. And all these people didn't get contrite and they, they say, I didn't mean this.

01:21:29.360 And they do that, but they only do that because the internet is unforgiving. And it is, if you want

01:21:35.520 to go in and wait in those waters, there is a deterrent factor there. People will reply sometimes

01:21:41.320 not fairly, but there will be a reply and you have to be very careful what you say. And I think I agree

01:21:47.400 with you. I don't see how a person that would, that was one of her, you know, it takes some thought

01:21:52.120 to, to type something out. It's not like you're just screaming out at the, at the, at the moment.

01:21:57.860 And if she did take that effort and how could you ever trust her to be fair in a, in a, uh,

01:22:04.180 position? I, I, it's amazing though, like to, to blame it in particular, you know, one less

01:22:10.180 maggot in the world. That's what she wants less maggot in the world. And if they have to die

01:22:13.680 prematurely, so be it that I'm sorry, she cannot stay. It is over between you and the board, Sarah.

01:22:20.480 Um, I predict she will be gone because there's just no way in good conscience they can keep this

01:22:25.460 woman on this board with any Republicans in that school district whatsoever. She wasn't the only

01:22:30.860 one to celebrate Hulk's death. Um, this woman, Yvette Dentremault, I don't speak French obviously,

01:22:37.860 but she, uh, tweeted out that she was dancing on his grave after he was, uh, after he died. She said,

01:22:45.980 um, I won't be the first or last to say, fuck that guy dance on any grave you want, but this one's

01:22:53.220 mine. She later deleted it, but she has since tweeted. I also took great pleasure reading the

01:23:00.740 obituaries of Henry Kissinger and Rush Limbaugh. And I won't apologize for those either. This is what

01:23:06.520 some people are reduced to. And the thing that she was so upset with about on Hulk Hogan was the fact

01:23:12.000 that he sued Gawker successfully after they published him having sex with a woman and, uh,

01:23:16.700 successfully sued Gawker to say that's an invasion of privacy. And that he won on $115 million in

01:23:23.120 consent compensatory 25 and punitive million and 31 million was the settlement. Then Gawker filed for

01:23:30.180 bankruptcy, but of all things to get upset about the man's privacy was obviously deeply violated.

01:23:35.740 He sued and Peter Thiel was behind it and he successfully shuttered Gawker. But this is the,

01:23:41.560 the modern left Victor. I mean, there have been people who have died on the left who I honestly

01:23:46.420 can't stand. And of course wouldn't miss, you know, never in a million years would I actually

01:23:52.500 tweet out such a terrible sentiment because no matter who they are, they have loved ones.

01:23:58.300 And in the case of a public figure, they have fans and just out of respect for humanity,

01:24:03.440 you just don't celebrate when someone dies like this. It's just, there's the level of cruelty

01:24:09.640 and soullessness that is like somehow non-human.

01:24:15.500 Yeah. I think it's really elemental with a left because they start with the idea that they're for

01:24:21.000 the many and not for the few. They just, they postulate that and therefore they're smarter and

01:24:26.860 they have greater morality because they're for equity and equality and fairness. It doesn't matter

01:24:33.660 whether they are or not, or whether they're hypocrites themselves, the way they conduct their own

01:24:37.940 lives. But once you state that you are morally superior and you're intellectually superior,

01:24:44.400 then almost every, any means are necessary or justified to get to that noble end. So they

01:24:50.400 excuse what they say or how they act because they think they're, they're morally superior. I mean,

01:24:57.640 I was thinking the other day when I saw Schumacher, I thought, wow, did he ever pay a price for going to

01:25:02.820 the, to the Supreme Court doors when it was in session in front of a very angry, uh, pro-abortion

01:25:09.480 mob and say, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, you sowed the wind. You're going to reap the whirlwind. You don't know

01:25:16.360 what's going to hit you. And then, you know, a few months later, we have people show up at the

01:25:20.280 justice's house. We had a potential assassin. There was never really any outcry. Uh, Mary, there was

01:25:26.960 never any DOJ investigation of that, but the, the pretense of all of that was that abortion is such

01:25:33.260 a noble issue that I can say or do anything I want as a public official. But if anybody had done

01:25:39.180 the opposite from the right and gone in and said, Kagan, so to my ear, you're not, you don't, there

01:25:45.780 would be, there would have been outrage. And it's, it's just a double standard and it's kind of cosmic

01:25:52.260 that, and that's why it makes it, that's why I think the, there was a recent poll that the Ivy

01:25:58.160 League now only has about 20% of people have high regard for higher education. And I think people,

01:26:04.220 when they are introduced to that idea, it's very smug, it's off-putting, it's sanctimonious,

01:26:10.680 self-righteous. And that's part of the problem with the left and the democratic party. Now they come

01:26:14.920 across as sanctimonious, self-righteous skulls and hypocritical, and people just don't want to hear it

01:26:21.620 anymore. Well, by the way, that woman I just told you about, Yvette, she was an adjunct professor of

01:26:28.220 chemistry at Emanuel College. I don't know what she's doing currently, but the other reason she

01:26:32.840 sort of made a name for herself was she, um, uh, Vani Hari, who's been on this show. She,

01:26:40.020 Vani calls herself the food babe. She's got great products. She's been like at the apex of the push to

01:26:44.880 get artificial food dyes out of our food, which has been working. RFKJ is doing it so much so that the

01:26:51.420 New York times is the daily podcast this morning was devoted to it. And of course, typical to what

01:26:57.340 we've been discussing on the New York times, their bent was, well, in 2015, they tried taking some of

01:27:03.420 the artificial food dyes out of some of the products and the American people didn't like

01:27:07.080 them. They didn't think that they were colorful enough. It's not a win. There's no moment to

01:27:11.340 celebrate the fact that we're literally putting petroleum in our children's food. Okay. It's

01:27:18.020 unambiguously a win and a watershed moment for RFKJ to have done this. Vani Hari's behind it as

01:27:23.980 well, but that's Yvette's other claim to fame. She decided that Vani Hari is quote, full of shit

01:27:29.480 and took a shot at her. So this is the same person who now thinks it's wonderful that, um, Hulk Hogan

01:27:35.140 died and really shows a soulless reaction to the death of someone who is very important and

01:27:40.280 inspirational to millions of Americans. Standby. We're going to talk to Victor next, believe it or not,

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01:30:48.520 So the left continues to cry into their soup about the cancellation of Stephen Colbert.

01:30:58.120 We know all that. They continue to suggest that this is some sort of a free speech violation. This

01:31:02.800 is the government making the left bow down to it because he didn't like Colbert. I really genuinely

01:31:08.360 don't understand the theory. I really don't. I mean, if he wanted to get rid of late night hosts who hate

01:31:13.800 him, why didn't he make them fire Kimmel at ABC when he settled that defamation suit he successfully

01:31:21.640 brought against them for George Stephanopoulos' repeated comments on him allegedly being found

01:31:27.080 liable for rape? Like if you, if you have some legal leverage over somebody and you really want what

01:31:32.060 you want, why wouldn't you have gotten rid of Kimmel? Who's just as hateful as Colbert. Why,

01:31:36.280 why wouldn't he be over at CBS insisting that Gayle King go if he just wanted to get rid of people

01:31:42.000 who hate him or Scott Pelley, who's the, you know, main brand on 60 minutes or Margaret Brennan or

01:31:49.380 Norah O'Donnell. Clearly Trump is fine having antagonists all over the major media brands,

01:31:56.500 including CBS. So I don't, I don't get that this is all Trump's fault. It's Stephen Colbert's fault.

01:32:02.300 He had no ratings. He had 200 staffers. They paid, they earned a hundred million dollars,

01:32:09.320 but only netted 40. His show was so bloated and expensive. So they were, sorry, they netted 60.

01:32:15.000 So they were losing $40 million a year on that show, which had 200 staffers. Again, the Kelly file

01:32:20.620 any given time between nine and 12 staffers and made a hundred million dollars a year. That's how

01:32:26.540 you keep your job in television. The way he did it is how you lose it. It's very simple math. Try to keep

01:32:31.840 up folks at home. Jay Leno, uh, was asked to weigh in who did this same job that all these others are

01:32:38.740 doing. Not too long ago. I was on with Jay Leno when I was a new, I was a newly mother to my third

01:32:46.820 child. So it was 2013. It was December of 2013. I remember that cause it was Christmas when I went

01:32:53.420 on the show just round and I had to bring my baby with me cause he was a newborn. Anyway, that's not

01:32:59.760 that long ago, 2013. He understood what the rules were back then. And he weighed in on the Colbert

01:33:05.200 situation. Here it is. Funny is funny. People either, you know, it's funny when someone who is

01:33:12.400 not, uh, who, when you make fun of their side and they laugh at it, you know, I just find getting

01:33:18.680 out. I don't think anybody wants to lecture. Why shoot for just half an audience all the time? You

01:33:23.740 know, why not try to get the whole, I mean, I, I like to bring people into the big picture. I don't,

01:33:29.080 don't understand why you would alienate one particular group, you know, uh, or just don't

01:33:35.260 do it at all. I'm not saying you have to throw your support or whatever, uh, but just, just do

01:33:42.440 what's funny. Just speaking there to the, uh, head of the Ronald Reagan foundation, just do what's

01:33:48.580 funny and don't alienate half your audience. Victor sounds so simple, doesn't it? Yeah. I remember

01:33:52.740 when, uh, people got on Michael Jordan and they said, why aren't you more political? Why don't

01:34:00.120 you reflect? It was during the Obama era. And he said, because Republicans, about half my audience

01:34:04.480 are Republicans or my consumers that buy my shoes. Why would I want to offend them? You know, when

01:34:09.880 Tucker, when Tucker was let go by Fox, unlike Colbert, he was a big moneymaker and he had a big

01:34:15.720 audience. And I don't remember that was during the Biden administration. I don't remember anybody

01:34:21.860 getting all angry and saying, Oh, it was pressure after January six, or he, he said something about

01:34:27.660 Ukraine and you people, it's your fault that you put pressure on, uh, the Murdoch family to get rid

01:34:34.820 of Tucker. They just said, you know what? We were angry at the Murdoch family and Fox. We weren't mad at

01:34:39.960 the government. We weren't organizing protests in the streets. I thought it was, you know, everybody just

01:34:45.300 thought, wow, this is a money-making show and he's a very skilled host and why would they get rid of

01:34:52.860 him? But nobody said it was, Oh, the Biden administration was responsible. The left did

01:34:57.220 it. I did. I never thought that the left did it. I thought it was just some decision that the corporate

01:35:02.900 management, I think Tucker basically said the same thing. He didn't really contest it. He just said,

01:35:07.980 you know what? I work for them. They had the right to do whatever they want. They're the corporate

01:35:11.420 people. If they want to do that and pay me the rest of my salary, that's fine. And it was a kind

01:35:16.740 of a traumatic thing to happen given he was at the pinnacle of his, his career. But I don't think

01:35:22.540 anybody, same thing when others at Fox had left, I don't think anybody said this administration did

01:35:28.200 this to them. And it's, I, it's very adolescent that Colbert thinks that he has a right to make

01:35:34.400 $20 million a year and lose the network 40 million as if they're his parents and he's a teenager and he

01:35:41.380 demands that they give him this and this and that. And then he's, now he's going on there and trying

01:35:46.340 to deliberately offend his paymaster so that they, I guess that they terminate him earlier than their

01:35:53.540 year window so he can be a tragic hero or something. But it's really adolescent. He's like a teenager.

01:35:59.440 He really is a little kid that's throwing a fit. They really, they really should let him go because

01:36:04.500 there's the problem. First of all, it is universally understood that when you fire somebody, they should

01:36:09.540 be brought out the door that day. You don't keep around people who you have fired. They're just,

01:36:15.520 you know, not generally happy campers and it's not a good office environment and it's not really a smart

01:36:21.520 move as an employer. So they're keeping him around for the next nine months as a fired employee

01:36:28.840 and every night he's going out there and railing on them. And really the CBS brass now looks like

01:36:35.360 completely like weak and feckless and like they have no balls because they're just allowing themselves

01:36:40.540 to be beaten up and insulted and called names every night while they platform this guy. It's

01:36:47.380 ridiculous. And truly, I don't think this can go on much longer. If this is the only shtick

01:36:52.620 Colbert's got left in the bag, it will be cut short.

01:36:56.520 Yeah. Or it'll either be cut short or people are going to, it's kind of like network when

01:37:02.820 Peter Finch just kept doing everything. He was a big hit. That's an old movie. A lot of people don't

01:37:07.740 remember it, but he finally got boring. And I think maybe they'll think who wants to turn into

01:37:13.440 Colbert every single night and hear how poorly he was treated and how awful his corporate and his,

01:37:19.780 but in the process, he's going to drive down what's left of their ratings, but maybe they'll think,

01:37:24.220 we'll just kind of let this guy, we'll give him a noose and about three weeks, people will be sick

01:37:28.520 of him for whining so much.

01:37:30.200 Right now his ratings have spiked because there's so much buzz around the fact that

01:37:33.820 he's been fired and he's going after them every night. So the drama is still high.

01:37:38.620 By the way, Gutfeld is still crushing him. It's amazing.

01:37:41.660 Over on the channel, you have to pay to get, you have to pay. Fox News is not on everybody's cable.

01:37:45.860 CBS is free no matter where you plug your TV on, even if you have the rabbit ears and he's still

01:37:50.860 outpacing him. So it's, it's an amazing thing. All right. I got to end with this. Um,

01:37:56.320 Sydney Sweeney, who is an actress, she's the toast of the town. She's a sort of modern day sex symbol.

01:38:03.900 Um, she's being called a white supremacist by people who don't like her latest ad,

01:38:10.640 which is for American Eagle. And she's advertising jeans. And yet the lunatics on the left think she's

01:38:18.660 advertising white supremacy. Here is one of the new ads in the new ad campaign. Saw 20.

01:38:26.300 You see what I did there, right? Jeans are passed down from parents to offspring,

01:38:30.260 often determining traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color.

01:38:37.480 My jeans are blue. Sydney Sweeney has very jeans.

01:38:41.100 Okay. This is obviously a reference to her body and not to her skin color, but the lunatic left is

01:38:51.580 going to do what the lunatic left is going to do. Victor, your thoughts.

01:38:55.840 Yeah. There's an often quoted, uh, a very famous quote, as you know, from Berea. He was the head of

01:39:01.080 the Soviet secret police at the end of the war and do the cold war. And he always said, I have the crime.

01:39:06.300 You just bring me the criminal. And, uh, so what do you, or excuse me, I have the criminal in mind.

01:39:13.280 You just, we'll just think up a crime. So they have this idea that there's racism everywhere and

01:39:19.280 we're just looking for a person that we can plug into the preexisting crime, whether they did anything

01:39:24.960 or not. And that's what they're doing. They, I think there's a lot of people on the left. They just

01:39:30.620 have this idea that we have to prove systemic racism and unfairness or we're out of a job that we

01:39:36.280 just need somebody who is it. And they scan every day's news. Let's plug him or her into that. And

01:39:42.200 then we'll have the criminal. So, you know, uh, but here, but here's what they say. This is,

01:39:50.040 they're upset because it's about who gets to be the face of America's best genes. G E N E S. You see,

01:39:59.080 they think it's no accident that they've chosen a white thin woman because you're, I guess not

01:40:07.820 allowed to celebrate those things in any way, shape or form, but they're, they're completely

01:40:11.620 ignoring the reference to again, her body, which is the thing she's famous for. It's just

01:40:18.440 absurd. I don't know. I don't understand that because after George Floyd, it's pretty common

01:40:24.160 knowledge. There was a lot of surveys done and roughly, uh, African American people were appearing

01:40:31.060 in about 50% of commercials, even though they were 12% of the demographics. So there was the

01:40:36.360 idea that we're bending over backwards as a commercial society or advertisers were to over

01:40:42.040 represent black people and minority people in general in the aftermath of George Floyd. So I don't

01:40:46.940 know, but once you start doing that, and I think then the demands become insatiable. It's like,

01:40:53.360 if you did this, then we're going to have to do this. Now we have, uh, censorship power over

01:40:59.340 anything you do that we consider is not deferential enough to us, whoever it is, but it's not going to

01:41:05.420 work. Aesthetics are universal, Megan. People's are inbred in their brains imprinted. What is beautiful

01:41:12.200 and what is not, whether we like it or not, thin women are very attractive. And unfortunately,

01:41:18.900 by the way, there's nothing wrong with being white. It's fine. She can be white too. It's like,

01:41:23.440 absolutely. Now the answer, now we're going to see an ad with the black woman and the reference

01:41:27.820 to jeans too. And that won't satisfy them. By the way, the campaign, these jeans sales are going to

01:41:32.760 develop, to help victims of domestic violence. That still didn't quiet the critics. Victor,

01:41:38.060 great to see you. Thanks for being here. We're back tomorrow with Mike Solana and more.

01:41:45.320 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Trump's Tariff Victory Lap, Massive EU Trade Deal, and Insane Leftist Sydney Sweeney Backlash, with Victor Davis Hanson

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