The Megyn Kelly Show - January 16, 2026


Trump Threatens Insurrection Act, Mahmoud Khalil Faces Setback, Twiggs Family Speaks： AM Update 1⧸16


Episode Stats

Length

23 minutes

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161.49483

Word Count

3,787

Sentence Count

222

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.120 Martha listens to her favourite band all the time.
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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly.
00:00:34.800 It's Friday, January 16th, 2026, and this is your AM Update.
00:00:39.580 This kind of violence is perpetuated by what we hear the governor saying,
00:00:43.920 what we hear the mayor is saying,
00:00:45.680 and their irresponsibility is extremely reckless.
00:00:48.660 President Trump threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act in Minnesota
00:00:52.160 as violent rioters are encouraged by state and local leadership.
00:00:56.240 Columbia student agitator Mahmoud Khalil is still here,
00:01:00.740 but the ruling that secured his release has now been overturned.
00:01:05.100 If your legal advisor tells you that an order is illegal,
00:01:07.880 will you refuse to carry out that order?
00:01:09.780 Two nominees for key national security positions appear before the Senate Armed Services Committee
00:01:14.700 as Democrats maintain their focus on their campaign against illegal orders.
00:01:21.100 And a family member of Lance Twiggs, the roommate and alleged boyfriend of Tyler Robinson,
00:01:27.760 speaks out about Twiggs' role in the Charlie Kirk murder.
00:01:31.480 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:28.120 President Trump threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act in Minnesota,
00:02:32.120 which would allow him to send in the military to subdue violent and obstructive protesting activity,
00:02:38.320 causing repeated clashes with federal immigration authorities.
00:02:41.940 The threat coming after a Wednesday ambush on an ICE agent,
00:02:45.500 which saw three illegals attacking the agent,
00:02:48.640 in response to which the agent shot one attacker in the leg.
00:02:52.340 Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem yesterday on Fox describing the lead-up to the shooting.
00:02:57.440 Our agents were out doing what they're doing every single day across this country,
00:03:01.100 is they were doing targeted enforcement, going after individuals that are breaking federal law.
00:03:05.720 When this individual drove away, crashed his car, tried to run into a home,
00:03:10.460 and as they were wrestling on the ground trying to detain this individual,
00:03:15.220 two other men came out of that building and started attacking him with weapons and shovels and brooms.
00:03:20.500 And as it was three on one, the agent feared for his life and defensively had to take action.
00:03:25.960 But, you know, this kind of violence is perpetuated by what we hear the governor saying,
00:03:30.780 what we hear the mayor in Minneapolis saying, and their irresponsibility is extremely reckless.
00:03:36.280 Secretary Noem reporting the agent is bruised and injured, saying DHS is thankful he's still alive.
00:03:42.180 Our source at DHS telling AM Update the agent was, quote,
00:03:46.580 beat up pretty bad, end quote, with lacerations, bruising, and an injury to his leg.
00:03:52.820 DHS releasing information on the three illegals accused of participating in the attack.
00:03:57.900 Julio Solis, the target of the operation and man who was shot in the leg,
00:04:02.460 photographed smiling in the ambulance.
00:04:05.060 Solis is reportedly here illegally from Venezuela, arriving in 2022.
00:04:09.040 He has a previous conviction for driving without a license
00:04:12.600 and an arrest for giving a fake name to a peace officer.
00:04:16.620 Alfredo Ahorna, also here illegally from Venezuela, entering in May 2023.
00:04:22.880 A judge issuing a final order of removal when he failed to show up for immigration proceedings.
00:04:28.560 And criminal illegal alien Gabriel Ledesma, arriving here in 2023 from, you guessed it, Venezuela.
00:04:35.860 Ledesma reportedly marked by the Biden administration as a non-priority for removal.
00:04:41.840 Way to screw that one up, Gabe.
00:04:43.820 Shoulda stayed out of it.
00:04:45.540 Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, both Democrats,
00:04:50.320 reacting to the shooting by blaming the feds for the chaos.
00:04:54.380 This, as the sanctuary city in a sanctuary state, Minneapolis,
00:04:59.160 does not allow local law enforcement to assist federal immigration agents.
00:05:03.720 As news of the shooting spread, tensions in Minnesota inflaming further.
00:05:08.520 Mayor Fry on Wednesday night issuing this backhanded plea to protesters.
00:05:12.900 So, let's be very clear.
00:05:15.680 I've seen conduct from ICE that is disgusting and is intolerable.
00:05:20.760 If it were your city, it would be unacceptable there too.
00:05:25.080 And for anyone that is taking the bait tonight, stop.
00:05:30.140 By the end of the night, protesters vandalizing multiple vehicles used by federal agents.
00:05:35.580 One spray painting a car believed to have been used by a federal agent with the words,
00:05:40.240 quote, the only good agent is a dead one.
00:05:43.100 On Wednesday night, one protester breaking into an agent's vehicle, stealing a firearm.
00:05:48.660 Borders are Tom Homan yesterday on Fox with the epilogue to that act of stupidity.
00:05:53.960 Just before I got in front of the camera, my security team advised me that the person that
00:05:58.880 stole that firearm last night is now wearing a set of handcuffs in custody.
00:06:02.920 So, I was just advising that before I got in the camera.
00:06:05.320 So, and there's others, others are coming.
00:06:07.620 So, they're going to be held accountable.
00:06:10.120 President Trump taking to Truth Social yesterday morning, quote,
00:06:12.980 If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators
00:06:18.320 and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE, who are only trying to do their job,
00:06:24.520 I will institute the Insurrection Act, which many presidents have done before me,
00:06:29.140 and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in that once great state.
00:06:34.800 Secretary Noem yesterday publicly urging Governor Walz multiple times to cooperate with the feds.
00:06:41.140 The secretary describing her last phone call with the governor on Fox.
00:06:45.440 When was the last time you called the governor, Governor Walz?
00:06:48.060 Oh, I talked to him just a couple of days ago.
00:06:49.660 I said, sir, listen, Tim, you know the situation, what's going on.
00:06:53.240 We are enforcing federal law.
00:06:55.220 If you don't like the laws, go change them.
00:06:57.140 But don't do it by giving place to these protesters and rioters that are perpetuating violence.
00:07:02.100 And I said, you have my personal cell phone.
00:07:04.400 You call me.
00:07:05.260 If you need me, you call me.
00:07:06.800 We will be there to help back you up, but protect your city, protect your state.
00:07:11.140 And he paused for a few seconds and he just said, yeah, OK, we have very different viewpoints of what's going on.
00:07:18.080 I said, maybe we do, but we will be here if you need us, because that's our goal every day is to keep people safe.
00:07:23.420 Secretary Noem saying the president is actively considering the use of the Insurrection Act,
00:07:28.080 which could mean the military will go to Minneapolis.
00:07:31.000 Meanwhile, the administration dealing with some recent polling on who Americans think was to blame in the shooting death of ICE agitator Renee Good.
00:07:41.040 Three recent surveys put the percentage of adults who believe the shooting was unjustified at 53 percent.
00:07:48.040 Mostly Democrats and independents, over two-thirds of Republicans, support the ICE officer.
00:07:52.700 The press has been overwhelmingly critical of ICE, leading to this moment yesterday at the White House press briefing between Carol Ann Leavitt and The Hill's Niall Stanich.
00:08:03.040 32 people died in ICE custody last year.
00:08:06.340 170 U.S. citizens were detained by ICE.
00:08:09.900 And Renee Good was shot in the head and killed by an ICE agent.
00:08:13.540 How does that equate to them doing everything correctly?
00:08:16.020 Why was Renee Good unfortunately and tragically killed?
00:08:19.160 Are you asking me my opinion?
00:08:21.680 Because an ICE agent acted recklessly and killed it unjustified.
00:08:24.720 Oh, okay. So you're a biased reporter with a left-wing opinion.
00:08:28.000 You're a left-wing hack. You're not a reporter.
00:08:30.360 You're posing in this room as a journalist.
00:08:32.120 And it's so clear by the premise of your question.
00:08:34.800 And you and the people in the media who have such biases but fake, like you're a journalist, you shouldn't even be sitting in that seat.
00:08:41.560 Do you have the numbers of how many American citizens were killed at the hands of illegal aliens who ICE is trying to remove from this country?
00:08:47.940 I bet you don't. I bet you didn't even read up on those stories.
00:08:51.460 I bet you never even read about Lake and Riley or Jocelyn Nungere or all of the innocent Americans who were killed at the hands of illegal aliens in this country.
00:08:58.880 And shame on people like you in the media who have a crooked view and have a biased view and pretend like you're a real honest journalist.
00:09:08.140 Secretary Noem yesterday saying ICE's work in Minnesota arresting and removing the worst criminals, including child rapists, will continue.
00:09:17.940 New year, new legal setback for Columbia University student agitator Mahmoud Khalil's bid to resist deportation as he remains in America.
00:09:28.400 The third U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals based in Philadelphia ruling two to one that a New Jersey district court judge lacked jurisdiction when he ordered Khalil's release from an ICE detention facility in Louisiana last June.
00:09:41.500 ICE agents arresting Khalil last March, the Trump administration moving to remove him despite his student visa and a green card under a law that states, quote,
00:09:50.540 An alien whose presence or activities in the U.S. the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States is deportable.
00:10:03.000 Secretary of State Marco Rubio making that determination in Khalil's case, citing his role as a student negotiator for the Columbia University Apartheid Divest Group.
00:10:13.060 That group reportedly sympathizing with terrorist organizations, including Hamas, and calling for, quote,
00:10:19.200 the end of Western civilization while occupying Columbia's campus, illegally seizing academic buildings, and demanding the university cut ties with Israel.
00:10:29.260 Following his arrest by ICE, the DOJ transferring Khalil to an ICE detention center in Louisiana, where he was held pending removal proceedings.
00:10:38.160 Under federal law, immigration proceedings are handled by the executive branch, not the judiciary.
00:10:45.220 An immigration judge first determines removability.
00:10:48.580 That ruling can be challenged in front of the Board of Immigration Appeals.
00:10:52.920 Only after a final order of removal can the case then move to a federal appellate court.
00:10:59.300 However, Khalil's legal team instead turning immediately to the district court in New Jersey,
00:11:04.880 filing a separate petition challenging the legality of his detention while his immigration case was still pending.
00:11:13.040 That case, assigned to Biden-appointed judge Michael Farbiars, who ordered Khalil's release with travel restrictions while the case proceeded.
00:11:22.200 The Trump administration challenging that order as coming from a court that lacked jurisdiction,
00:11:26.860 bringing us to yesterday's appeals court ruling agreeing with Team Trump,
00:11:32.240 finding the federal district court had no authority to intervene in ongoing removal proceedings in immigration court
00:11:39.100 and ordering Khalil's petition to be dismissed.
00:11:42.720 The judge is writing, quote,
00:11:44.020 the district court lacked jurisdiction over Khalil's removal proceedings.
00:11:48.360 George W. Bush-appointed judge Thomas Hardiman and Trump-appointed judge Stefanos Bibas,
00:11:53.540 stressing that Congress set up a process giving non-citizens, quote,
00:11:57.980 just one bite at the apple to challenge their removal in the federal district court system,
00:12:03.160 requiring Khalil to work through the established immigration removal process in the executive branch
00:12:09.480 before as a last-ditch effort filing an appeal before a federal circuit court of appeal.
00:12:15.320 In her dissent, Biden-appointed judge Ariana Freeman,
00:12:18.420 determining Khalil showed he experienced irreparable harm during his detention,
00:12:22.880 concluding while quoting Supreme Court precedent, quote,
00:12:26.440 it is most unlikely that Congress intended to foreclose
00:12:29.340 all forms of meaningful judicial review over his claims.
00:12:33.520 Khalil releasing a statement through the ACLU, which reads, quote,
00:12:37.020 the door may have been opened for potential re-detainment down the line,
00:12:41.400 but it has not closed our commitment to Palestine or to justice and accountability.
00:12:45.560 I will continue to fight through every legal avenue and with every ounce of determination
00:12:50.500 until my rights and the rights of others like me are fully protected.
00:12:54.540 We asked Article 3 Project founder, attorney Mike Davis,
00:12:57.500 if he believes this case could go all the way to the Supreme Court.
00:13:00.960 The Supreme Court does not need to take this case because the Third Circuit Court of Appeals
00:13:06.420 with Judge Hardiman and Judge Bibas' opinion got the law rights.
00:13:12.040 Now, if there is a circuit split, meaning if another federal appellate court rules differently
00:13:17.960 than the Third Circuit, then the Supreme Court is more likely to take the case.
00:13:22.500 If this same immigrant files a habeas petition in another district, in another circuit,
00:13:30.120 maybe he creates a circuit split.
00:13:31.780 Who knows?
00:13:32.400 These Democrat plaintiffs and Democrat attorneys and Democrat judges
00:13:36.880 certainly know how to play their games to sabotage the will of the American people.
00:13:41.900 Davis describes what effects this ruling will have on other immigration cases.
00:13:47.260 My unsolicited advice to the Trump administration is to house these immigrants in Delaware,
00:13:55.460 New Jersey, or Pennsylvania before their deportation.
00:13:58.600 Because these three states are bound by this federal appellate court ruling
00:14:04.980 by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.
00:14:08.580 Coming up, Democrats warning again about unnamed, unspecified illegal orders,
00:14:15.280 this time in a hearing for two prominent national security positions.
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00:15:26.840 Two nominees for key national security roles testifying yesterday before the Armed Services
00:15:31.600 Committee, with Democrat senators zeroing in on the issue of unlawful military orders,
00:15:37.520 despite their inability to point to any concrete examples.
00:15:42.060 The focus coming after a group of six Democrats, some of whom sit on the Armed Services Committee,
00:15:47.520 released an unsolicited video months ago urging members of the military to disobey unlawful orders.
00:15:54.400 Trump officials accusing those lawmakers of sowing confusion and chaos within the ranks,
00:15:59.300 or at least trying to.
00:16:00.960 Those lawmakers insisting they're simply stating the law.
00:16:04.480 Army Lieutenant General Joshua Rudd, nominated to head the National Security Agency,
00:16:09.600 and Marine Corps Lieutenant General Francis Donovan,
00:16:12.440 nominated to lead U.S. Southern Command,
00:16:14.740 which is responsible for military operations across Central and South America,
00:16:19.180 plus the Caribbean,
00:16:20.340 remaining stoic throughout the hearing.
00:16:22.200 U.S. Senator from Michigan, Democrat Alyssa Slotkin,
00:16:25.700 one of the participants in the unlawful orders video,
00:16:29.040 and possibly the most annoying member of the U.S. Senate,
00:16:32.880 who never misses an opportunity to tell us,
00:16:35.240 she worked in intelligence,
00:16:36.820 which she appears to think means she outranks all members of the military,
00:16:40.980 pressing Lieutenant General Rudd about a hypothetical scenario.
00:16:44.740 Can you answer for me if the Secretary of Defense or the President of the United States
00:16:49.860 asks you to put NSA or military intel personnel people or tools or assets
00:16:58.800 targeted at American citizens who don't have a link to a foreign terrorist organization,
00:17:04.500 will you reject that?
00:17:05.740 Senator, if confirmed, I will execute my responsibilities in accordance with the Constitution
00:17:11.960 and all applicable laws.
00:17:13.720 There is just a ton of law saying that we cannot wiretap, using the layman's term,
00:17:21.440 American citizens' communications just for expressing their freedom of speech, right?
00:17:27.180 We couldn't be more clear.
00:17:29.480 And as a CIA officer, coming in years and years after Watergate,
00:17:33.680 like that was drilled into us,
00:17:35.060 that we never turned the intelligence community against the American people.
00:17:38.840 U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, Democrat Elizabeth Warren,
00:17:41.880 repeatedly pressing Lieutenant General Donovan on illegal orders.
00:17:45.940 I'm just asking a very straightforward question.
00:17:48.400 You tell me you have questioned orders in the past about their legality.
00:17:52.580 Is that right?
00:17:53.120 Well, Senator, I have questioned orders when either one, I didn't understand,
00:17:59.060 I wasn't equipped to carry them out,
00:18:00.740 and I needed clarity before I can actually execute those orders.
00:18:04.620 But you've never questioned whether an order was legal.
00:18:07.140 You've never wondered whether or not an order is legal
00:18:09.400 and sought additional counsel on that?
00:18:12.220 Senator, in our planning processes, I always have a legal advisor at my side.
00:18:16.560 General Donovan, if your legal advisor tells you that an order is illegal,
00:18:20.320 will you refuse to carry out that order?
00:18:21.960 I will take that very seriously if my legal advisor says that is an illegal order,
00:18:27.980 and I will seek clarification from higher headquarters.
00:18:30.900 Okay.
00:18:31.860 And if somebody higher says no, what are you going to do at that point?
00:18:35.640 Senator, then I make a decision using 37 years' experience to carry out that order or not.
00:18:40.640 Then she took a hit off her peace pipe and walked barefoot to her teepee.
00:18:44.840 On the other side, U.S. Senator Tom Cotton, Republican from Arkansas,
00:18:48.640 chiding Democrats for their focus on this topic.
00:18:51.240 I had to step out for a few other commitments,
00:18:54.060 and I can't get back and be here for fewer than two minutes
00:18:58.260 without hearing the Democrats talk about illegal orders.
00:19:02.160 So, General Donovan, I would like to ask you,
00:19:05.120 have you ever received an illegal order?
00:19:07.620 No, Senator.
00:19:08.680 And you're a pretty high-speed Marine, as I understand it.
00:19:13.060 You've been out on the front a lot in your lifetime.
00:19:15.620 So, from the time you were Lieutenant Donovan to the time now where you've got three stars
00:19:21.240 and you're about to add a fourth, no one has ever given you an illegal order.
00:19:25.840 No, Senator.
00:19:26.900 Well, it seems to me that our military does a very good job of training our troops
00:19:34.340 from the time they enlist as privates or the time they commission as lieutenants
00:19:38.240 all the way up to your level and to the Commander-in-Chief not to issue illegal orders.
00:19:44.520 General Rudd also confirming he has never received an illegal order throughout his time in the service,
00:19:50.120 both men likely to sail through the confirmation process, though a vote is not yet scheduled.
00:19:54.680 A family member of Lance Twiggs, the alleged so-called transgender furry boyfriend of accused Charlie Kirkkiller,
00:20:05.120 Tyler Robinson, speaking out for the first time in an interview with NewsNation.
00:20:10.300 Robinson and 22-year-old Twiggs shared an apartment in Utah prior to the murder.
00:20:15.440 Authorities in September reporting Twiggs was cooperating with the investigation.
00:20:19.460 D.A. Jeffrey Gray publicly disclosing what he says are messages between the two
00:20:24.600 from the hours after the shooting, in which Robinson confesses to the killing.
00:20:29.540 After Robinson wrote to Twiggs that he had taken the opportunity to take Charlie out,
00:20:34.940 Twiggs responding, quote,
00:20:36.240 What? You're joking, right?
00:20:38.340 Robinson replies, quote,
00:20:40.020 I am still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet.
00:20:45.260 Twiggs asking, quote,
00:20:46.160 You weren't the one who did it, right?
00:20:48.380 Robinson replying, quote,
00:20:49.660 I am. I'm sorry.
00:20:51.640 In the following weeks, multiple outlets reporting
00:20:53.960 Twiggs' location was unknown.
00:20:56.580 Now, a female family member appearing in Silhouette on NewsNation,
00:21:00.820 shedding light on Twiggs' whereabouts.
00:21:02.920 For the first few weeks, because there were so many threats
00:21:06.080 against his family and him,
00:21:10.700 my understanding is they did have a little bit of FBI detail,
00:21:13.700 and they kind of moved around a little bit,
00:21:15.380 but they're not anymore.
00:21:18.180 He's with his family.
00:21:20.060 Twiggs' relative disputing accounts of his cooperation,
00:21:23.320 saying he did not come forward on his own.
00:21:26.380 Will he still cooperate with the investigation, from what you know?
00:21:29.600 You know, I don't know.
00:21:31.900 You know, when I first found out about how he was taken in and talked to by the police,
00:21:38.940 you know, I know that they said that he was very cooperative,
00:21:41.560 but they had to go get him and bring him in.
00:21:44.700 He didn't voluntarily go in and say,
00:21:47.360 hey, I heard about this, and I have some knowledge.
00:21:51.520 You know, he had to go in.
00:21:52.620 Then he handed things over when they asked for him,
00:21:55.440 but he didn't give up any information until he had to.
00:21:59.500 The relative describing Twiggs and Robinson as, quote,
00:22:03.160 so smart with so much potential,
00:22:05.840 noting Twiggs is a gifted concert pianist.
00:22:08.900 She says the two went down a dark path in the online world.
00:22:12.720 What do you think changed?
00:22:14.340 I don't, you know,
00:22:15.780 and then being as antisocial as they were,
00:22:19.200 from my understanding of, you know,
00:22:21.240 playing these games and being a part of this discord group,
00:22:26.000 you know, it just,
00:22:26.720 they didn't seem like they were in a real world.
00:22:29.800 The relative stating she is 100% certain
00:22:32.460 authorities have the correct suspect with Tyler Robinson.
00:22:36.340 Robinson set to appear in court later today.
00:22:41.060 And that'll do it for your AM update.
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