The Megyn Kelly Show - October 23, 2025


Trump Wants Biden-Era Prosecution Damages From DOJ, Ballroom Outrage, Antifa Update： AM Update 10⧸23


Episode Stats

Length

18 minutes

Words per Minute

160.38902

Word Count

2,897

Sentence Count

198

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Trump seeks $230 million in damages from the Department of Justice, according to a new report from the New York Times. President Trump responds to the report, saying, "I don't even talk to them about it. All I know is that they would owe me a lot of money."


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Thursday, October 23rd, 2025, and this is your AM Update.
00:00:39.720 All I know is that they would owe me a lot of money.
00:00:43.240 President Trump seeking hundreds of millions of dollars to compensate him for the lawfare by President Biden's DOJ.
00:00:50.240 As critics cry foul over potential conflicts of interest.
00:00:53.700 Donald Trump wants to be a king. Just look at what he's doing right now to the White House.
00:00:58.780 Construction begins on the new White House ballroom, and the press is not happy.
00:01:03.920 A shocking look inside an Antifa safe house in Portland, leading to homophobic slurs directed at an independent journalist.
00:01:12.000 And Harris prosecutors announced the arrest of a museum thief, but not that museum thief.
00:01:18.120 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:34.640 President Trump responding to a New York Times report that he is seeking about $230 million in damages from the DOJ he now oversees as a result of the lawfare against him.
00:02:46.900 An unprecedented situation, any settlement reached between Mr. Trump and the DOJ may have to be approved by his own top DOJ officials who represented him in a personal capacity.
00:02:57.560 At issue, two administrative complaints submitted to the DOJ, the first step in seeking damages.
00:03:04.400 If no settlement is reached, the next step could be a lawsuit.
00:03:07.980 According to the Times, both claims filed prior to Mr. Trump's return to office.
00:03:12.280 The first, submitted in 2023, reportedly, quote, seeks damages for a number of purported violations of his rights, including the FBI and special counsel investigation into Russian election tampering and possible connections to the 2016 Trump campaign.
00:03:28.720 The second complaint, filed in 2024, relates to the FBI's 2022 search of Mr. Trump's Mar-a-Lago home and club for classified documents and accuses the DOJ of malicious prosecution.
00:03:42.000 From the complaint obtained by the Times, quote,
00:03:44.800 Attorney General Garland, FBI Director Wray, and special counsel Smith's targeting indictment and harassment of President Trump has always been malicious political prosecution aimed at affecting an electoral outcome to prevent President Trump from being re-elected.
00:04:01.220 It continues, quote,
00:04:02.200 This malicious prosecution led President Trump to spend tens of millions of dollars defending the case and his reputation, Mr. Trump responding to the report on Tuesday from the Oval.
00:04:13.640 Is that something you want your legal team to do?
00:04:15.220 I don't know what the numbers are. I don't even talk to them about it.
00:04:17.820 All I know is that they would owe me a lot of money, but I don't I'm not looking for money.
00:04:22.380 I'd give it to charity or something. I would give it to charity.
00:04:24.860 Now, with the country, it's interesting because I'm the one that makes the decision, right?
00:04:28.800 And, you know, that decision would have to go across my desk.
00:04:33.100 And it's awfully strange to make a decision where I'm paying myself.
00:04:36.740 In other words, did you ever have one of those cases where you have to decide how much you're paying yourself in damages?
00:04:42.700 But I was damaged very greatly and any money that I would get, I would give to charity.
00:04:47.580 Any settlements must be approved by the Deputy Attorney General or the Associate Attorney General.
00:04:52.960 Funds are paid out with taxpayer dollars.
00:04:55.140 Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche served as President Trump's lead defense lawyer in multiple criminal cases before Mr. Trump won re-election.
00:05:03.940 Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward, who represented Trump co-defendant Walt Nada in the Mar-a-Lago case,
00:05:10.800 has also represented several Trump officials in January 6th related investigations, including current FBI Director Cash Patel.
00:05:17.940 This set up raising questions about conflicts of interest and setting off a firestorm among the left and establishment media.
00:05:25.920 The conflict of interest is just so obvious and egregious.
00:05:29.640 I don't think there would be any way it could be worked out in an ethical way.
00:05:33.320 The victim is the American people.
00:05:36.140 They are the ones who will be out the $230 million.
00:05:39.300 It is a blatant grift.
00:05:41.440 It's an ethics scandal.
00:05:42.460 We are combining the weaponization of the Department of Justice with his grift and corruption to make money off of the presidency.
00:05:51.720 A DOJ spokesman telling the Times, quote,
00:05:53.840 In any circumstance, all officials at the Department of Justice follow the guidance of career ethics officials.
00:05:59.940 Conservative political strategist Scott Jennings on CNN offering some advice to the president.
00:06:05.220 And he did also say, you heard him say it there, it's going to come across my desk.
00:06:10.720 I might be the one to decide whether I get paid a quarter of a billion dollars.
00:06:15.940 Scott, I mean, do you think that that is something that should ever happen in this country?
00:06:21.120 I don't know if it's true, if it has to come across his desk or not.
00:06:24.660 However, because it is an unprecedented situation.
00:06:27.240 But do you think he should get paid by the Justice Department?
00:06:29.560 That's the question.
00:06:30.260 My personal advice, if he asked me, would be, have him table this until you leave office.
00:06:35.020 The process started before you came to office.
00:06:37.940 You then won an election.
00:06:39.740 And you look, I think maybe he was damaged and he's entitled to the process.
00:06:43.240 If it were me and I were advising him, I would just say, you could table it and put it off until you leave office.
00:06:48.640 This is far from the first time someone targeted by the FBI or DOJ has filed a complaint or received a payout seeking damages.
00:06:56.460 Just last year, Joe Biden's DOJ settled the case brought by disgraced former FBI agent Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page.
00:07:05.660 You remember them, the lovers whose texts the DOJ made public in which they agreed that, quote,
00:07:11.260 we can't take the risk of Trump being elected, writing that they had, quote, an insurance policy designed to, quote, stop it.
00:07:19.340 Well, those two sued the DOJ for violating their privacy as a result of those text messages being released.
00:07:25.980 And Merrick Garland, AG under Joe Biden, approved a settlement.
00:07:29.840 Here he is defending the DOJ's decision in an exchange with Republican Congressman Jim Jordan just last year.
00:07:36.920 Go after a president and you get rewarded for doing so, according to the Justice Department.
00:07:41.180 It's not a question of reward.
00:07:42.360 It's a question of the government paying for violating the law.
00:07:45.640 Guess how much the DOJ paid them?
00:07:48.540 Two million dollars.
00:07:51.220 Does the scorn their lawyer claimed they were subjected to compare at all to what Donald Trump was put through?
00:07:58.100 Hmm.
00:07:59.840 Construction beginning earlier this week on the new White House ballroom.
00:08:05.340 On Tuesday, a crane seen demolishing parts of the East Wing to make room for the 90,000 square foot addition.
00:08:11.900 The optics of the construction proving too much for many of the president's critics to bear.
00:08:16.520 Surprise!
00:08:17.280 Donald Trump is literally destroying the people's house because apparently he thinks it's his house.
00:08:23.260 Donald Trump wants to be a king.
00:08:25.320 Just look at what he's doing right now to the White House.
00:08:28.100 I think it's fairly grotesque to begin construction, just the optics of beginning construction on a grand ballroom at a time when the government is shut down.
00:08:39.160 What we see is destruction, demolition, and the symbolism is just staggering.
00:08:45.040 Hillary Clinton chiming in on X, quote,
00:08:48.040 It's not his house.
00:08:49.880 It's your house.
00:08:51.120 And he's destroying it.
00:08:52.940 This is the same woman who, along with her husband, was criticized for taking nearly $200,000 worth of china, flatware, rugs, TVs, sofas, and more,
00:09:02.080 when they left our house, and who later paid back only about $86,000 of it.
00:09:08.940 As for the Trump reno, according to the White House Historical Association,
00:09:12.760 the People's House has an extensive renovation history since its original construction in 1792,
00:09:19.220 including in 1993 when First Lady Hillary Clinton, there she is again,
00:09:24.300 oversaw restoration projects in the Blue Room and the East Room and the conversion of a butler's pantry into a kitchen for family meals.
00:09:32.600 The current press briefing room sits on top of what was once a swimming pool, constructed in 1933 by FDR.
00:09:39.420 President Obama turned a tennis court into a basketball court.
00:09:42.320 The list goes on and on.
00:09:45.260 President Trump showing off plans for the ballroom yesterday afternoon.
00:09:48.440 I think it'll be one of the great ballrooms anywhere in the world.
00:09:52.020 Right now, we have a space that, with tables, holds about 79 people.
00:09:55.700 And this is a proper kind of a thing.
00:09:57.620 Now, what the White House was doing, as you know, is they were putting tents out on the lawn.
00:10:02.140 It's being paid for 100% by me and some friends of mine, donors, to it.
00:10:07.000 The government's paying absolutely nothing.
00:10:09.400 Over the years, many presidents have made changes.
00:10:11.740 This obviously would be the biggest change, but this was something they've wanted for at least 150 years.
00:10:19.100 The ballroom, expected to run an estimated $300 million, donors are lining up to contribute to the cause.
00:10:26.060 Lockheed Martin reportedly in for $10 million, Google committing at least $5 million.
00:10:30.740 $22 million of the YouTube settlement won by President Trump last month, earmarked for the construction project.
00:10:36.320 According to The Hill, other companies considering donations include Amazon, Apple, Coinbase, Comcast, Microsoft, and T-Mobile.
00:10:44.220 Construction set to be completed by early 2029, just shy of the end of President Trump's second term.
00:10:51.660 Coming up, an independent journalist takes a peek inside what he calls an Antifa safe house,
00:10:57.400 just one block away from the Portland Ice Facility.
00:11:00.200 And as Paris investigators hunt for the Louvre jewel thieves, another alleged Paris museum thief is busted.
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00:11:52.860 Independent journalist Nick Sorter capturing video inside what he describes as an Antifa safe house
00:12:02.180 in Portland, Oregon, just one block away from the Ice Facility at the center of the nightly protests.
00:12:08.060 The safe house appears to be a commercial space on the ground level.
00:12:11.740 The glass windows blocked with pull-down curtains, political signage, including a cardboard poster reading,
00:12:16.900 quote, regulating capitalism only delays oligarchy and a Palestinian flag.
00:12:22.860 Check.
00:12:24.000 Sorter posting on X, the space is where, quote, violent Antifa terrorists flee after they commit crimes.
00:12:30.660 Portland police allow them to harbor criminals there and do nothing about it.
00:12:34.960 The video shows a small space with a small kitchen against one wall.
00:12:39.060 There appears to be little to no furniture, a few apparent Antifa members seen unmasked,
00:12:44.320 sitting on the floor, surrounded by canned drinks and more political signage.
00:12:48.960 Sorter is quickly spotted, recording by the group,
00:12:51.220 a young woman slamming the door closed.
00:12:54.020 Moments later, the door bursting back open, a masked man now appearing through it.
00:12:58.660 A warning, the language here is colorful.
00:13:01.620 Get the fuck back, bitch.
00:13:02.820 What are you doing?
00:13:03.660 What are you doing?
00:13:04.780 That's what I thought.
00:13:06.360 I'm just checking it out.
00:13:07.380 I'm on a public sidewalk.
00:13:08.420 Close the window if you don't want to see in.
00:13:10.000 There you go.
00:13:11.100 You're so fucking closeted, Katie.
00:13:12.920 You're ugly.
00:13:14.060 You're a fag.
00:13:15.240 You look stupid.
00:13:15.960 Sorter saying this is the same location to which post-millennial journalist Katie Davis-Court
00:13:22.340 followed her alleged attacker after she was beaten on September 30th.
00:13:27.460 Davis-Court says an activist struck her with a metal pole, leaving her with a black eye and
00:13:32.300 a concussion, then retreated to the building that Sorter reported is the safe house.
00:13:36.900 Video showing multiple people blocking Davis-Court's view of the door with umbrellas.
00:13:41.160 The Portland Police Bureau, responding to AM Update, quote, the establishment shown in
00:13:45.640 the video appears to be located on private property.
00:13:48.600 With that in mind, any law enforcement action to include a search, seizure, or investigative
00:13:53.260 activity would require the establishment of probable cause that a crime has been committed.
00:13:58.540 A search warrant may only be issued following a thorough investigation and must be authorized
00:14:02.920 by a judge in accordance with state and federal law.
00:14:05.880 As with all public safety matters, the Portland Police Bureau follows appropriate legal procedures
00:14:10.200 before taking enforcement action.
00:14:12.660 Nowhere in that statement does PPB deny Antifa activists are using the property.
00:14:18.360 Might want to make sure it's zoned for use as a home, too.
00:14:21.920 Sorter telling Fox News Portland officers are running cover for anti-ice activists.
00:14:27.120 I would believe that they've gotten some type of stand-down order not to do certain things,
00:14:33.900 to not respond to this type of violence.
00:14:36.540 Yeah, no, I mean, they'll definitely arrest people like me, but they have orders.
00:14:40.500 Not to look like they are assisting ICE or DHS in any way, shape, or form.
00:14:47.460 They've said that publicly at this point, officers out here on camera.
00:14:51.240 So that's not just speculation.
00:14:52.920 They're saying that themselves.
00:14:54.860 So somebody is giving that order, and I'm telling you, Laura, I'm going to find out who.
00:14:58.300 PPB responding to AM Update, quote,
00:15:00.320 The Louvre Museum in Paris back open to the public after the brazen Sunday heist as French prosecutors announce the arrest of a woman stemming from a separate robbery from another museum just weeks before.
00:15:23.160 Authorities still searching for the crew of four responsible for breaking into the Louvre just after it's open on Sunday.
00:15:30.160 The crew, dressed in yellow construction vests, driving a truck-mounted ladder up to a window, forcing their way into the Apollo Room, which houses France's crown jewels,
00:15:40.660 smashing through two glass cases, swiping eight pieces of Napoleonic jewelry, then dashing away on motor scooters.
00:15:48.120 Paris prosecutor Laure Baku, who is leading the investigation, telling French outlet RTL the jewels hold an estimated value of 88 million euros, or 102 million bucks,
00:16:00.260 though stressing the historical loss is far greater.
00:16:03.080 Baku says about 100 investigators are working to identify the crew and locate the jewels before they are broken down and resold, saying, quote,
00:16:12.460 We can perhaps hope that they'll think about this and won't destroy these jewels.
00:16:18.160 Oh, boy.
00:16:19.640 French President Emmanuel Macron is calling for an expedited rollout of already planned security renovations.
00:16:25.860 Now back to that other thief who was just arrested.
00:16:28.880 This is a separate case.
00:16:30.020 French authorities on Tuesday announcing the arrest of a 24-year-old Chinese woman for allegedly stealing gold from Paris's Natural History Museum.
00:16:39.200 That's about a 20-minute walk from the Louvre.
00:16:41.480 Prosecutor Baku saying on September 16th, a single suspect entered the museum after 1 a.m., leaving, or should we say escaping, three hours later, scot-free,
00:16:52.460 with about 13 pounds of gold nuggets, valued at $1.7 million.
00:16:57.280 A blowtorch, grinder, screwdriver, and saw were among the tools recovered near the scene, authorities busting the suspect later in Barcelona.
00:17:07.060 She is charged with theft and criminal conspiracy and faces up to 15 years in prison if convicted.
00:17:13.040 What is going on in Paris?
00:17:14.760 That'll do it for your AM update.
00:17:19.720 I'm Megyn Kelly.
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