The Megyn Kelly Show - Tucker Carlson on Epstein, Iran, and the Gender Divide, Plus Woke Journalists Badger Team USA, with Evita Duffy-Alfonso and Amala Ekpunobi

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00:00:57.220 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111, every weekday at New East.

00:01:09.780 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:01:11.360 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:12.680 We've got a huge program for you today.

00:01:14.740 Evita and Amala will be here a little later with the latest on cultural news, including

00:01:19.060 a major update on that shocking footage of New York City police officers being pelted with

00:01:23.680 snowballs.

00:01:24.260 Mayor Mondomini could not be any worse.

00:01:27.360 He could not be handling this more poorly.

00:01:29.620 His hatred for cops shines through every day.

00:01:33.080 But first, someone who was spotted at the White House earlier this week, our pal Tucker Carlson

00:01:37.380 is here.

00:01:38.400 The left and media meltdown continues over President Trump's mild locker room joke to the men's

00:01:43.740 U.S. Olympic hockey team.

00:01:45.420 We'll talk with Tucker about that.

00:01:46.860 As the women's and the men's players are getting asked about it nonstop.

00:01:50.400 It is ridiculous.

00:01:52.180 What is wrong with sports journalists?

00:01:54.420 Truly.

00:01:55.120 I had no idea.

00:01:56.140 I'm going to have to start reading the sports pages now just so I can keep tabs on how absurd

00:02:00.500 these people are.

00:02:01.540 And it's all men, by the way.

00:02:03.060 Very weird.

00:02:03.820 I mean, there's something very strange about a woke man and a journalist too.

00:02:07.540 I mean, it's just like, what happened?

00:02:08.660 What happened to your balls?

00:02:10.140 Really?

00:02:10.660 We need to talk about it.

00:02:12.260 As we speak, the U.S. and Iran are having discussions about the country's nuclear program,

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00:02:19.680 And President Trump posted on Truth Social that he wants to make a deal with Iran, but

00:02:23.320 is not afraid to take military action if he deems it necessary.

00:02:26.400 All these are headlines in the news this morning.

00:02:28.740 Tucker, of course, has been one of the leading voices adamantly arguing against a war with Iran.

00:02:33.960 Who the hell wants that?

00:02:35.620 He's the host of The Tucker Carlson Show, and he joins us now.

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00:03:42.040 Tucker, great to see you.

00:03:43.040 How are you?

00:03:43.600 Oh, I couldn't be better.

00:03:44.760 Thank you, Megan.

00:03:45.980 Awesome.

00:03:46.880 So, yeah, we'll get to Iran in one second.

00:03:50.220 Sadly, we seem to be marching in a different direction right now, but it's precarious.

00:03:53.980 I want to start with Hillary because she's getting deposed right now in Chappaqua, New York,

00:03:58.760 where she lives on an amazing estate.

00:04:01.440 We think with Bill, eh.

00:04:04.060 And both of them are getting deposed in connection with their Epstein friendships and Ghislaine Maxwell

00:04:11.500 for her.

00:04:12.900 Bill was definitely friends with Jeffrey Epstein and spent a lot of time with him right after

00:04:17.380 his presidency.

00:04:17.980 And Hillary had Ghislaine at Chelsea's wedding.

00:04:22.520 She honored her at one of the Clinton Global Foundation events.

00:04:27.840 Now she comes out today.

00:04:29.320 She's going today and Bill's going tomorrow.

00:04:30.860 And her opening statement, we just got our hands on it, basically says,

00:04:34.200 I know nothing.

00:04:35.560 I never knew Epstein.

00:04:37.520 I basically didn't know Ghislaine.

00:04:39.600 I don't know anything about their crimes.

00:04:41.580 This is a witch hunt.

00:04:43.200 Poor me.

00:04:44.400 I don't know what I'm doing here.

00:04:45.840 So how do you like the fact that the two top Clintons are going under oath this week on Epstein?

00:04:51.020 It's so great.

00:04:52.280 I actually saw Hillary Clinton the other day, maybe two weeks ago, at an event.

00:04:56.800 I just almost walked directly into her.

00:04:58.840 And I was amazed by how small she seemed and just how diminished.

00:05:04.640 And it's just a reminder that all of us are, you know, aging and someone who seems like ferocious

00:05:09.360 and terrifying at one portion of his or her life becomes kind of pathetic and an object

00:05:14.380 of pity at another point in her life.

00:05:16.460 So like Hillary's time has passed, she's going to have to live with her crimes, you know,

00:05:20.980 killing people, bragging about killing people, her friendship with Epstein, all of this.

00:05:26.360 So I just want to say I don't wish her personally any ill will, really.

00:05:29.020 I feel sad for her.

00:05:29.900 It must be terrifying to be her.

00:05:31.620 But I do think it's important for the Trump administration to not run away from the Epstein

00:05:38.220 files.

00:05:38.660 They're already out, three million of them.

00:05:40.180 And there's like no getting away from it, but to embrace it and to bring, to the extent

00:05:43.700 we can, years later, justice.

00:05:46.420 And that begins by asking relevant figures questions under oath, like, what was this?

00:05:51.500 And I do think we need to bring in Epstein's urologist right away and ask him about his

00:05:55.580 pizza and grape soda recommendation to his patient, et cetera, et cetera.

00:05:58.480 There are a lot of people who need to be composed over and over, but don't be afraid of it.

00:06:03.960 And I think there is this, I think the president was convinced that this was a trap set for

00:06:08.260 him.

00:06:08.620 I mean, he said it out loud many times.

00:06:10.200 This is like Russiagate.

00:06:11.260 They're trying to, you know, implicate me.

00:06:14.820 And I just personally don't think that's a true concern.

00:06:17.760 I get his fears, but the only way that this gets better is through justice.

00:06:23.560 And so I'm just grateful to see this.

00:06:25.180 And I hope there are many more like this.

00:06:28.060 So I think the real fireworks are going to come tomorrow.

00:06:30.940 There's no question that Hillary knew Ghislaine.

00:06:33.040 Uh, but there's zero question that Bill and Jeffrey palled around quite a bit and he's

00:06:39.900 going to have to answer for his pictures in Epstein's hot tub with a bunch of women whose

00:06:45.580 faces have been censored.

00:06:46.980 We don't know how old they were, how many there were, or what they were doing with Bill

00:06:50.800 Clinton in a hot tub at Jeffrey Epstein's estate someplace.

00:06:54.000 He's trying to diminish the amount of time they spent together for obvious reasons.

00:06:58.120 But there's no question that Bill was not shamed at all after the Monica Lewinsky scandal

00:07:05.160 out of his hound dog behavior, to put it mildly.

00:07:09.520 And I'm going to show you something, Tucker, that I have permission to show.

00:07:13.260 And this is my own piece of evidence that he wasn't shamed at all, where a friend of

00:07:20.120 mine and her friend at the time, this is 1999, were in a bar and Bill Clinton was there.

00:07:27.040 And would you look at the, can you see this picture?

00:07:29.460 Yes.

00:07:29.740 He is looking down the chest of my friend, Meg Florence.

00:07:34.460 And that's my other friend in the foreground, Abby Rittman.

00:07:37.100 He's basically got his hand on her side boob.

00:07:40.520 And here's the crazy, you probably know this place.

00:07:43.180 They were from, uh, actually just asked them where was this?

00:07:46.420 The Bombay club in DC.

00:07:48.800 Yep.

00:07:49.040 1999, he was there with his wife and daughter and went over to their table.

00:07:55.960 They were there with a bunch of guys too.

00:07:57.520 Introduced himself.

00:07:58.560 Before you know it, he wanted pictures.

00:08:00.800 Yeah.

00:08:01.420 And look at it.

00:08:02.460 He's like in the middle of the restaurant, looking down my one friend's blouse with his

00:08:07.320 other friend, creepily high on the side of Abby Rittman.

00:08:11.720 This is, they were like 20.

00:08:13.200 They were just graduating college.

00:08:15.040 He was still president.

00:08:16.700 It was 1999, right?

00:08:18.840 I'm not saying this is a crime.

00:08:20.220 I'm just saying not chastised at all as a result of Lewinsky.

00:08:25.140 No, not chastised, but instead controlled.

00:08:27.980 And so obviously Clinton's creepy.

00:08:29.900 I know a number of people who've slept with Clinton, like everyone knows people who've slept

00:08:32.740 with Clinton.

00:08:33.380 That's who he is.

00:08:34.600 That is his fundamental weakness.

00:08:36.240 And it's the means by which he is controlled by others.

00:08:40.280 And that's kind of the story.

00:08:41.860 I mean, we know that his phone sex with Monica Lewinsky on Air Force One was taped by a foreign

00:08:46.400 government and used as blackmail against him during bilateral negotiations, you know?

00:08:53.160 And so to what extent was Epstein a problem for the United States?

00:08:57.820 You know, he's got problems that he'll have to answer for someday.

00:09:00.180 It's already wrecked his marriage and his life, right?

00:09:02.560 He has paid.

00:09:03.780 I mean, imagine being Bill Clinton, again, not a happy thing.

00:09:06.080 So he's paying a price.

00:09:07.140 But what about the rest of us who watched our foreign policy hijacked by others using

00:09:13.520 his sexual compulsion as the means of control?

00:09:17.660 Like, that's the question.

00:09:19.220 Those are those are the questions that I'm fascinated by.

00:09:21.420 Like, how did Epstein short the global financial crisis?

00:09:24.800 How do you know Gaddafi was about to be killed?

00:09:27.100 What's his secret 9-11 commission that he was recruiting people to join?

00:09:31.160 Like, what is that?

00:09:32.740 What is all of this?

00:09:34.120 And to what extent do American voters actually control their own country?

00:09:38.260 I mean, those are like pressing modern day issues that I would like.

00:09:42.880 I mean, we know that most men are creepy.

00:09:45.780 Some men are super creepy.

00:09:47.920 Bill Clinton, for example.

00:09:49.800 But it's their creepiness being used against them for what end?

00:09:54.720 And that's kind of the question I'm mesmerizing, maybe because I'm a man and I just look at

00:09:58.520 Bill Clinton.

00:09:58.900 I'm like, yeah, I knew he was like that.

00:10:01.400 I know other people like that, like we all do.

00:10:04.920 But what when you have leaders like that, what does it mean for us?

00:10:08.380 Yeah, but you look at like Bill Gates today.

00:10:08.880 Yeah.

00:10:09.840 You look at Bill Gates today, right?

00:10:11.120 Like admitting in this town hall before his staff that, well, you know, yes, Jeffrey Epstein

00:10:15.900 and I went many, many places together.

00:10:18.200 It was only ever dinner, but I did see him here and there and there.

00:10:21.920 It was like five countries that they spent time together in.

00:10:25.060 And then he admitted to having an affair, two affairs with two Russian hookers.

00:10:29.940 My word, not his.

00:10:31.120 Women, he said, while he was married to Melinda.

00:10:34.380 So he's copping to two affairs.

00:10:36.220 I'm sure it's much like, you know, the alcoholic who gets asked by the doctor, how many drinks

00:10:41.560 do you have per night?

00:10:43.060 Yeah, copped to two.

00:10:45.460 Okay.

00:10:45.940 Um, but we saw in the Epstein files that draft email Epstein sent to himself and it seemed

00:10:54.460 to read like a blackmail note that he was writing on behalf of a Bill Gates staffer, basically

00:10:58.940 saying, do you want me to tell Melinda that you gave her an STD and you asked me to get

00:11:04.380 antibiotics that you could slip into her food or her drink without her knowing?

00:11:09.040 Now, Gates is denying that, but it does give you a feel if it's true for possibly how Epstein

00:11:14.280 operated and how this blackmail material could work if in his hands.

00:11:18.480 Of course, because what do we know about every man?

00:11:21.520 You know, that sex is a huge driver of male behavior.

00:11:24.300 It's the great temptation for most men.

00:11:26.740 And almost every married man fears above all disappointing and angering his wife.

00:11:32.140 So, I mean, just we know this about people.

00:11:34.420 And so, if you want to take like the world's richest and most powerful men and control them,

00:11:39.880 this is the fastest way to do it.

00:11:41.600 I mean, the sex drive short circuits the male brain.

00:11:44.920 And, you know, if you have dinner with just men, they'll joke about it.

00:11:48.320 And every woman, every woman knows this also.

00:11:51.760 Everyone knows this.

00:11:52.960 And so, of course, that's what this is.

00:11:55.740 It lowers your defenses.

00:11:57.960 It creates camaraderie between, you know, people who know the secret.

00:12:02.700 And it weakens you.

00:12:04.440 And so, by definition, we're looking at a blackmail operation.

00:12:08.520 The question is to what end and on whose behalf.

00:12:10.920 And I don't think it's really clear.

00:12:13.000 I mean, the picture that I see emerging is not of like one country, Israel or the UK or France

00:12:18.820 or some other country trying to control us.

00:12:20.660 They were all involved.

00:12:21.900 But I see people who do not represent countries but represent themselves in loose alliance with each other.

00:12:28.720 I see the most powerful people in the world making the biggest decisions on behalf of the United States without the input of American voters or even really the consent of American politicians.

00:12:40.360 And that's – man, that's the most interesting thing to me.

00:12:44.140 It's like who runs the world actually?

00:12:46.180 And you don't get the answer from the Epstein files so far, but you get tantalizing hints.

00:12:51.640 And again, it's not voters.

00:12:52.760 It's not even presidents.

00:12:53.700 You think Bill Clinton is in control at this point?

00:12:55.800 Of course not.

00:12:57.460 Right?

00:12:58.340 That's the amazing thing to me.

00:13:00.160 Right.

00:13:00.260 Rounding back, who did Hillary Clinton kill?

00:13:05.040 Well, she killed Gaddafi.

00:13:06.600 I mean, let's just start there.

00:13:09.360 But yeah, Muammar Gaddafi.

00:13:11.200 And as noted, Jeffrey Epstein knew that was coming and was discussing in this now famous email exchange, like how do we profit from the collapse of Libya?

00:13:21.720 And the collapse of Libya, which all the rest of us, including me, sort of ignored and Barack Obama was out there.

00:13:27.140 We just want to return Libya to its people.

00:13:29.060 They yearn to be free.

00:13:31.520 This was after Gaddafi was cooperating with the U.S. government, by the way.

00:13:35.660 He was an intel asset for the U.S. government, and he was doing what we told him to do, and Hillary Clinton acting on behalf of obviously others, but helped kill him.

00:13:46.620 Like what was that and why?

00:13:49.020 And when you say others, do you mean Israel?

00:13:52.040 I don't necessarily mean Israel.

00:13:53.640 No, I don't know that.

00:13:54.760 But she was – well, others, literally others because she was secretary of state serving the president, Barack Obama.

00:14:00.700 But whose interests were served by taking this country run by a kind of crazy person, Gaddafi?

00:14:08.320 I'm not defending Gaddafi, right?

00:14:09.840 But it was still a coherent country with borders and a military and some systems that kind of were recognizable to a wasteland, a chaotic wasteland with open slavery.

00:14:23.120 Like why would you want that?

00:14:24.680 Who benefited from that?

00:14:25.800 That's a big deal, and I think because we're so far away we don't see that, but taking a country – this is relevant now on the eve of regime change in Iran – what does it mean to just like eliminate a government and leave chaos behind?

00:14:39.220 Well, it means millions of people will suffer and die, but it also means that some benefit from that.

00:14:45.300 And that strikes me as the most wicked thing you could do, literally the most wicked thing you could do.

00:14:50.580 If you are seeking to profit from either in terms of money or power, the death and suffering of millions of people, you are by definition evil, more evil than the average person can even understand.

00:15:03.000 And yet we know from the Epstein files and we know from watching America right now that there are people who think that way, and they're the threat.

00:15:09.820 And it's not – like we focus our attention on people, oh, you're bad.

00:15:13.660 You know, Bill Clinton's looking at her boobs.

00:15:14.820 I agree, bad, totally bad, recognizably bad.

00:15:17.660 But people who want to profit from the murder and suffering of millions of their fellow human beings, like that's the highest – I think we can say that's the highest level of bad, I think.

00:15:30.000 Well, that's – I mean that's – one of the things I wanted to ask you about the Epstein files is like, okay, because it's – it feels a little Me Too-ish, a little Salem-y, right?

00:15:41.980 Like – and he's guilty and he – like his name is mentioned and therefore he must be a –

00:15:46.160 Totally agree.

00:15:46.840 Right?

00:15:47.260 So that guy's got to be a pedophile too and like – it's like – I don't know.

00:15:51.380 It feels – it's a little uncomfortable just to have anybody who is an acquaintance of Jeffrey Epstein, like made into Jeffrey Epstein.

00:15:58.160 Dude, I am with you 100%.

00:16:00.220 Right?

00:16:01.660 But so – but when you zoom out like 30,000 feet, is that where the story is for you?

00:16:06.300 Not – it's not really exactly about the men who were dogs.

00:16:09.980 It's about how he used them and he used his Russian mail order brides to compromise them in order to what?

00:16:18.980 Get information.

00:16:20.240 In order to build his fortune.

00:16:22.160 In order to help governments with whom he was friendly.

00:16:24.700 Like how do you see it?

00:16:25.520 The overall like sort of the headline about this story.

00:16:27.180 Well, let me just say it to your first really wise and humane point.

00:16:30.720 I totally agree with that.

00:16:32.300 And I just want to say – be totally blunt and say I was invited to dinner at Epstein's house years ago.

00:16:37.860 Not that long before he got – I mean I knew someone who knew someone.

00:16:40.860 He said, you should come to dinner at Epstein's house.

00:16:42.340 Ehud Barak is there because he was living there, the former prime minister of Israel.

00:16:45.320 And I was like, well, that sounds interesting.

00:16:46.720 Yeah.

00:16:46.960 And I probably – you know, honestly, I was telling my wife this.

00:16:51.800 I don't remember why I didn't go.

00:16:53.420 I literally have no memory.

00:16:54.660 But it didn't seem crazy because just because I've interviewed all kinds of bad people.

00:16:59.060 And just because someone is a horrible person doesn't mean that I won't talk to them, obviously, right?

00:17:04.120 I just want to learn.

00:17:05.280 That's my job.

00:17:06.020 So I didn't go.

00:17:07.620 But if I had gone, I would have spent the last six months trying to explain that I'm not a pedophile.

00:17:11.540 So I agree.

00:17:12.920 And I also don't like witch hunts in general because they give the worst people in the world an excuse to tell you how great they are.

00:17:18.780 I'm not him.

00:17:19.700 And this is like the famous scene in the New Testament where, you know, the guy is praying and he's like, thank you, God.

00:17:24.620 I'm not as bad as the guy next to me.

00:17:26.340 And that's like true soul corruption.

00:17:28.140 So we should never be self-righteous.

00:17:30.020 We want to be righteous but not self-righteous.

00:17:31.400 So I totally agree.

00:17:32.720 As for Epstein, Epstein's an idiot, okay?

00:17:35.060 If you read the Epstein emails cold, what's the first thing you notice?

00:17:38.940 The guy's illiterate.

00:17:39.720 He's a badly educated guy from Staten Island.

00:17:42.740 He can't spell and he can't really kind of articulate what he's saying.

00:17:46.080 And his intelligence is purely feral.

00:17:48.880 He's intelligent like a dog is intelligent when the dog reads your fear or hate or whatever.

00:17:56.280 The dog can smell you.

00:17:57.740 The dog can't, strictly speaking, understand you.

00:18:00.400 That's Epstein's variety of intelligence.

00:18:02.200 But he's hardly a genius.

00:18:04.060 He's hardly like some evil, brilliant puppet master.

00:18:07.300 He himself is a tool of what?

00:18:09.980 Where did his money come from?

00:18:11.320 No one has answered that question.

00:18:12.560 How did he get all this money?

00:18:14.000 Doing accounting services for Leon Black and Les Wexner?

00:18:16.940 Come on now.

00:18:17.780 I've got an accountant.

00:18:18.900 I'm not paying him.

00:18:19.780 Like, that's just stupid.

00:18:20.920 So what is the answer?

00:18:22.180 No.

00:18:22.620 What was he being paid to do?

00:18:24.120 He was an employee, not a boss.

00:18:26.820 That's very obvious.

00:18:28.340 He was a connector, but he's acting on behalf of others.

00:18:31.020 Who?

00:18:31.520 And my concern, well now, my certainty,

00:18:34.080 is that the wrong people will be punished as they always are.

00:18:37.120 And I watched this with Harvey Weinstein.

00:18:39.020 I worked for Harvey Weinstein, so I, briefly,

00:18:41.540 so I knew Harvey Weinstein was a pig.

00:18:43.600 Obviously, he smoked in the elevator.

00:18:45.280 Like, the guy's a pig.

00:18:46.100 He didn't care about other people's opinions or feelings.

00:18:49.120 I knew that.

00:18:49.980 I remember it really well.

00:18:51.740 So I wasn't surprised when he went down.

00:18:52.860 It's a good benchmark.

00:18:53.180 But I also knew, having worked in television for like 30 years,

00:18:56.940 that, you know, some of the worst people never went down.

00:19:00.400 And some of the people who did go down were bad,

00:19:02.840 but they weren't even in the same realm as the people who didn't go down.

00:19:06.080 So there is a sense in which these stories,

00:19:08.140 these witch hunts, are a cover for the truly guilty.

00:19:11.400 And as someone who cares about justice,

00:19:12.780 that drives me kind of insane.

00:19:14.680 And it's like, right?

00:19:16.820 We should be making an effort to get to the root of it.

00:19:18.880 It would be the same as if we executed every drug dealer

00:19:21.720 standing on the corner in Flatbush,

00:19:24.080 but we never made any effort to find out

00:19:26.640 where they got the fentanyl they were selling.

00:19:28.740 You'd be like, ah, you know,

00:19:30.120 I'm not against executing drug dealers, I guess,

00:19:32.000 but like, where are the suppliers?

00:19:34.320 Well, I give you more credit than I deserve myself

00:19:37.160 when it comes to Harvey,

00:19:38.060 because Doug and I met him years ago at one of the,

00:19:41.820 it was like a Met Gala or something like that.

00:19:43.500 He was so nice.

00:19:44.880 He was so charming.

00:19:46.100 He loved Doug.

00:19:47.260 And he wound up offering Doug, my husband,

00:19:52.320 a job writing for his movie studio.

00:19:55.380 He knew Doug was an author.

00:19:56.580 And I'm like, Doug, that's so cool.

00:19:58.360 You should totally do that.

00:19:59.420 And he was like, Meg, he's a bad guy.

00:20:01.560 I'm like, what do you mean?

00:20:02.800 He seems so nice.

00:20:03.520 He's so super, super successful.

00:20:06.000 And he's like, honey.

00:20:07.560 He's like, it's a no, hard no.

00:20:10.180 Do not want to have any association with Harvey Weinstein.

00:20:12.440 He foresaw it all, Tucker.

00:20:14.520 I love Doug.

00:20:15.080 I mean, he has very good radar for bad people.

00:20:16.860 He does.

00:20:17.320 That's why he's a great writer,

00:20:18.620 because he has those instincts.

00:20:19.880 I love that.

00:20:20.700 He's totally right.

00:20:21.960 Yes.

00:20:22.800 But I'm not sure Harvey was the worst.

00:20:23.940 I feel like we journalists are more like the St. Bernards,

00:20:26.620 who are just like running over to everybody,

00:20:28.180 like, yeah, you're interested too.

00:20:29.440 Yeah.

00:20:29.780 Exactly.

00:20:30.760 Well, that's right.

00:20:31.940 If you're driving motive is curiosity,

00:20:35.560 and if you're in this business,

00:20:36.660 I hope that's what your driving motive is,

00:20:38.700 and many motives, but that's one of them,

00:20:40.460 then you're always going to wind up talking to people

00:20:43.180 who are not the people you'd make godparents of your children.

00:20:46.580 Like, you're just always going to.

00:20:47.960 I've met Kim Jong-un,

00:20:49.600 and I've met all kinds of bad people.

00:20:51.620 I don't endorse their programs,

00:20:52.860 but I do want to know more about them.

00:20:54.660 That seems like what we're paid to do.

00:20:56.960 Yes.

00:20:57.880 Just because they're bad

00:20:59.000 doesn't mean they're uninteresting.

00:21:00.660 To the contrary,

00:21:01.160 it usually means they are fairly interesting.

00:21:02.660 To the contrary, exactly.

00:21:03.580 I mean, only recently have we gotten to the,

00:21:06.740 you're not allowed to talk to that person, you know?

00:21:08.520 I mean, when I, the world crumbled around me

00:21:10.780 when I interviewed Alex Jones in NBC,

00:21:14.620 all these other people that interviewed him,

00:21:16.220 it was like, wait, why is it like so bad?

00:21:18.280 I'm like, need I remind you that 60 Minutes interviewed

00:21:22.580 the Grand Wizard of the KKK in his hat.

00:21:27.100 He was wearing his hat.

00:21:29.540 It's pretty funny.

00:21:30.440 We used to do that.

00:21:31.640 Diane Sawyer interviewed Jeffrey Dahmer.

00:21:34.460 I'm like, I don't think Alex Jones has eaten anybody.

00:21:36.880 Eddie, calm down.

00:21:38.520 You know, it's just only recently

00:21:40.040 have we gone absolutely nuts with like,

00:21:41.900 you're just not allowed to speak with him.

00:21:43.300 All right, speaking of absolutely nuts,

00:21:44.980 before we get to a round,

00:21:46.340 can I ask you about the fallout for the men's hockey team?

00:21:49.240 It is ridiculous what these sports journalists

00:21:53.140 are doing to this whole story.

00:21:55.120 They keep pumping it every time they get

00:21:56.600 one of the women's team members in front of them.

00:21:59.300 They're like, what about the terrible men and Trump

00:22:01.700 who made a sexist joke and the guys laughed

00:22:04.180 without pointing out that those guys were like,

00:22:05.640 yeah, bring them.

00:22:06.880 Absolutely, two for two, right?

00:22:09.020 And Trump made a joke.

00:22:10.000 It was a joke.

00:22:11.200 In any event, it's the sports writers

00:22:12.800 who continue to push this.

00:22:14.140 But also there are now some of the women's team

00:22:17.900 taking the bait.

00:22:20.360 Here is the women's hockey captain, Hillary Knight,

00:22:24.720 who does not seem to be a big Trump fan.

00:22:29.320 Let's see.

00:22:30.960 Here it is, thought 16.

00:22:32.360 She's getting lots of snaps for this one, Tucker.

00:22:33.980 No, I just thought the joke was distasteful

00:22:37.560 and unfortunate.

00:22:40.360 And I think just the way women are represented,

00:22:43.600 it's a great teaching point

00:22:45.060 to really shine light on how women

00:22:48.120 should be championed for their amazing feats.

00:22:51.320 And now I have to sort of sit,

00:22:53.220 and anybody has to sit in front of you

00:22:54.680 and explain someone else's behavior.

00:22:56.320 It's not my responsibility.

00:22:57.620 So, but what is, is shifting the focus

00:23:05.300 and shifting the narrative of this amazing accomplishment

00:23:08.160 that we all did together.

00:23:09.660 And granted, the men's and the women's team

00:23:11.540 did it together, and that is super special.

00:23:14.000 It's never been done in our program's history.

00:23:15.680 It's something we're extremely proud about.

00:23:18.280 Your thoughts?

00:23:18.960 Well, I feel sorry for that girl being used

00:23:21.860 to divide the country.

00:23:23.820 And that's obviously what this is.

00:23:25.600 And that's what sports journalism is, really.

00:23:28.380 If you want to weaken a country,

00:23:30.120 you divide it against itself.

00:23:31.440 You weaken the people.

00:23:32.720 You weaken their pride in their nation,

00:23:35.580 in themselves, in their ancestors,

00:23:37.260 of course, in the virtues.

00:23:40.420 And sports is the fastest way to the heart

00:23:44.260 of like a plurality of American men.

00:23:47.720 And so if you politicize games

00:23:51.280 and use the spectacle in order to force feed

00:23:54.920 the audience propaganda

00:23:56.920 about how their country is bad,

00:23:59.080 their culture is bad,

00:24:00.280 their ancestors were bad,

00:24:01.520 their skin color is bad,

00:24:03.060 they're bad,

00:24:03.940 and they have to be ashamed of themselves

00:24:05.900 and their testosterone,

00:24:08.540 then you've done a lot to weaken the country

00:24:10.720 so you can dominate and control it.

00:24:12.200 I mean, it's the long game.

00:24:14.380 It's been going on a long time.

00:24:15.920 We spend a lot of time talking about

00:24:18.760 the effective education on our children,

00:24:20.560 and all of a sudden they have these views.

00:24:22.120 You're like, where did you get that?

00:24:23.120 And it's a process of brainwashing people

00:24:26.100 over generations.

00:24:26.940 We spend very little time acknowledging

00:24:28.720 the very same thing has happened

00:24:30.220 with professional sports,

00:24:31.780 the coverage of professional sports.

00:24:33.780 And you know, I mean,

00:24:35.000 there are a million ways that you can see this,

00:24:37.380 but the hatred of men's hockey

00:24:39.800 tells you everything.

00:24:42.940 It's like the last holdout.

00:24:44.580 We got them,

00:24:45.160 which men's hockey is like overwhelmingly white

00:24:47.440 from rural, cold places.

00:24:50.880 They're not obedient.

00:24:52.380 They don't live near some urban center.

00:24:55.220 They haven't been fully brainwashed.

00:24:56.860 There's a kind of weird freedom there.

00:24:58.360 By the way, they fight.

00:24:59.420 They throw off their gloves and fight.

00:25:01.340 Yeah.

00:25:01.680 And so we have to emasculate these.

00:25:05.040 Of course they're patriotic, right?

00:25:06.620 They're from like rural Minnesota,

00:25:08.020 not the Twin Cities.

00:25:09.240 They're from Maine.

00:25:10.320 They're from the best parts of Canada,

00:25:11.700 which are still great.

00:25:13.320 And they're from Scandinavia and Russia.

00:25:16.020 And those people are a massive threat.

00:25:18.120 Their spirit is a threat to the country.

00:25:20.500 And so we have to bring them down.

00:25:23.260 And what is all of this?

00:25:25.420 If you are governing your country

00:25:27.620 in a way that the population hates,

00:25:29.660 if you're doing things

00:25:30.420 the population doesn't want at a certain point,

00:25:32.520 you fear that they're going to,

00:25:34.540 you know, take back control of their country,

00:25:36.360 maybe even physically.

00:25:37.620 And so you have to make sure

00:25:39.420 that the country is weak,

00:25:41.940 riven by division and self-doubt,

00:25:43.640 that the sexes hate each other,

00:25:44.840 that the people who could rise up against you

00:25:47.180 are incapacitated by obesity and marijuana

00:25:50.500 and all kinds of other drugs.

00:25:52.400 Like you really have to work hard

00:25:54.880 to make sure you neutralize that threat.

00:25:57.540 And I think it's very obvious now.

00:25:59.800 I've felt this for a long time,

00:26:01.120 but now we're at a place where

00:26:02.580 almost nothing the federal government does,

00:26:05.800 the public wants,

00:26:07.520 the disconnect between

00:26:08.840 like what they say they're going to do,

00:26:10.880 what they actually do,

00:26:11.780 what people want,

00:26:12.820 and what the government spends their money

00:26:15.080 trying to affect.

00:26:15.960 It's just too wide.

00:26:17.320 It's like,

00:26:17.700 it's pre-revolutionary at this point.

00:26:19.500 And so then you sort of look back

00:26:21.300 and you're like,

00:26:21.820 oh, maybe that's why

00:26:23.360 there was a concerted effort

00:26:24.640 to make men,

00:26:26.240 young men,

00:26:27.460 weak, disorganized,

00:26:28.660 and self-hating.

00:26:29.460 And maybe the fastest way to do that

00:26:31.280 would be getting people to,

00:26:32.960 you know,

00:26:33.860 show disrespect to the national flag

00:26:36.340 during football games.

00:26:37.480 Like maybe that wasn't accidental

00:26:38.880 because it wasn't,

00:26:40.180 honestly.

00:26:42.100 I said on the air

00:26:43.840 after,

00:26:45.200 I don't know,

00:26:45.420 it was Monday or Tuesday,

00:26:46.280 that it was bound to happen,

00:26:48.520 this turn on these guys.

00:26:50.700 It's really not about

00:26:51.500 the Trump phone call

00:26:52.280 or Kash Patel being in the locker room.

00:26:54.120 It's about the fact

00:26:55.060 that there are white men

00:26:57.240 who are unapologetically patriotic

00:26:59.840 and aggressive,

00:27:02.140 full of testosterone.

00:27:03.700 Like you said,

00:27:04.320 they fight,

00:27:04.820 they go out on the ice,

00:27:05.920 they're like unapologetically bold

00:27:07.740 in their testosterone,

00:27:09.520 which is a massive turnoff

00:27:11.380 to a certain sector

00:27:12.840 of the country,

00:27:14.880 especially these far left women.

00:27:17.020 And no sooner had I said it

00:27:18.240 than later that day,

00:27:20.000 this hit,

00:27:20.560 it's just one video,

00:27:21.400 but man,

00:27:22.100 you know,

00:27:22.640 she calls it out outright.

00:27:24.380 Watch,

00:27:24.660 look at this woman.

00:27:25.740 I do love that we all love

00:27:27.160 teated rivalry.

00:27:28.440 I do think it did a little bit

00:27:29.760 of damage

00:27:30.280 because I think that we all

00:27:31.860 kind of like maybe

00:27:32.820 collectively forgot

00:27:33.680 that like hockey

00:27:34.900 is one of the most,

00:27:36.940 if not the most,

00:27:38.600 conservative sports

00:27:39.680 with the most conservative fan base.

00:27:41.440 Like this isn't anything new.

00:27:43.360 I would say it's comparable

00:27:44.180 to golf or lacrosse,

00:27:45.900 but like here's the thing.

00:27:47.640 Okay,

00:27:48.320 hockey,

00:27:48.960 I don't know if you guys have seen

00:27:50.000 like the USA national team.

00:27:52.420 Everybody's white.

00:27:53.540 Everybody on the team is white.

00:27:54.820 Everybody affiliated

00:27:55.500 with the team is white.

00:27:56.240 All the coaches are white.

00:27:57.020 Like there is not

00:27:58.420 a lot of people of color

00:27:59.260 in that space.

00:28:00.620 And like a huge draw

00:28:01.620 to hockey is

00:28:02.620 it's violent.

00:28:03.840 Like you

00:28:04.760 are encouraged

00:28:06.180 to be violent.

00:28:06.960 Like the fans

00:28:07.640 love to watch the violence.

00:28:08.840 The players love

00:28:09.360 to enact violence.

00:28:10.160 Like what type of ideology

00:28:11.780 do you think

00:28:12.280 a white man

00:28:13.920 that comes from

00:28:14.980 insane amounts of wealth

00:28:16.460 for his entire life

00:28:17.760 that like has

00:28:18.960 these violent tendencies.

00:28:20.300 What type of ideology

00:28:21.000 do you think

00:28:21.500 that they lean towards?

00:28:22.580 Like,

00:28:23.100 like obviously

00:28:24.140 they were on the phone

00:28:24.760 with Trump

00:28:25.160 making fun of the women's team

00:28:26.800 because that's what

00:28:27.560 violent rich white men do.

00:28:29.580 Like that's

00:28:30.380 what their favorite

00:28:31.620 thing to do is

00:28:32.380 is to like make fun of women

00:28:33.560 and shit on women

00:28:34.660 that are doing the same thing

00:28:36.220 if not better

00:28:37.200 than they are.

00:28:38.140 and they were all

00:28:39.900 creaming in their

00:28:40.560 fucking pants

00:28:41.140 because they were

00:28:41.660 on the phone

00:28:42.020 with their dad.

00:28:42.680 Like it's so

00:28:43.980 like I don't know.

00:28:46.680 I appreciate her

00:28:47.720 saying it out loud.

00:28:48.640 Yeah.

00:28:49.180 It's so sad.

00:28:50.040 You look at that girl

00:28:50.680 with the tattoos

00:28:51.400 on her hands

00:28:52.340 and the I hate myself

00:28:53.380 haircut

00:28:53.760 and you just see

00:28:54.700 such a tragically

00:28:56.400 broken person

00:28:57.220 but you also see

00:28:58.300 in miniature

00:28:58.980 the state of the country

00:29:00.580 the breakdown

00:29:02.740 of relations

00:29:03.560 between young men

00:29:04.580 and young women

00:29:05.420 is the worst thing

00:29:06.780 that has ever happened

00:29:07.700 to the United States

00:29:08.460 worse than anything

00:29:09.580 any war we've ever had.

00:29:10.920 It's the worst thing

00:29:11.720 and its products

00:29:13.080 its effects

00:29:13.680 are low birth rate

00:29:15.600 like people are not

00:29:16.240 coming together

00:29:16.640 and having children

00:29:17.400 marriage rate

00:29:18.780 in full collapse

00:29:19.760 and the radicalization

00:29:21.460 of both young men

00:29:22.680 and young women.

00:29:23.640 The young men

00:29:24.220 are becoming

00:29:24.760 terrifyingly right wing.

00:29:26.400 I agree with them

00:29:27.260 basically

00:29:27.720 but still

00:29:29.040 they're very

00:29:29.860 very intensely

00:29:30.860 politically aware.

00:29:32.120 I meet them

00:29:32.980 all the time

00:29:33.360 in airports.

00:29:34.240 You know

00:29:34.360 they're like

00:29:34.620 calling for an ethnostate

00:29:35.640 like they're mad

00:29:36.360 and the women

00:29:37.980 are their

00:29:38.740 polar opposite.

00:29:40.580 They are

00:29:40.960 like the woman

00:29:41.660 the young woman

00:29:42.300 you just showed.

00:29:43.800 They're angry

00:29:44.860 but in reverse

00:29:47.040 they're like

00:29:47.940 they've embraced

00:29:49.060 the most nihilistic

00:29:50.740 atheistic

00:29:51.700 left wing politics

00:29:53.520 imaginable

00:29:54.440 and they're pro-violence.

00:29:55.640 They're the ones

00:29:56.000 who cheered

00:29:56.560 Charlie Kirk's murder.

00:29:58.400 So like

00:29:58.960 that is

00:30:01.160 the building block

00:30:02.140 of civilization

00:30:02.800 is young man

00:30:03.920 young woman

00:30:04.480 come together

00:30:05.260 form an alliance

00:30:06.300 enduring lifelong

00:30:07.640 with each other

00:30:08.580 out of which

00:30:09.360 flows the next generation

00:30:11.600 of your citizens.

00:30:12.900 It's like

00:30:13.460 that's the whole thing

00:30:14.980 is marriage

00:30:15.400 is the whole thing.

00:30:16.340 It's not just

00:30:16.740 like some social issue

00:30:18.380 that you know

00:30:18.920 no no

00:30:19.200 that is civilization

00:30:20.540 and when that breaks down

00:30:22.160 so does your civilization

00:30:23.580 and it's

00:30:24.420 boy

00:30:25.100 it's just the saddest thing

00:30:26.100 I can

00:30:26.440 I can imagine.

00:30:28.340 Yeah

00:30:28.800 I mean

00:30:29.260 there's

00:30:29.820 an unhealthy dose

00:30:31.540 of crazy there.

00:30:32.480 It used to be

00:30:33.160 like back

00:30:33.820 like when I went to school

00:30:35.140 if you had a

00:30:36.740 Jack Hughes

00:30:38.020 the hero

00:30:38.920 one of them

00:30:39.640 of the men's hockey team

00:30:40.780 all over your TV screen

00:30:42.360 with the American flag

00:30:43.300 draped around him

00:30:44.080 and new

00:30:44.920 you know

00:30:45.480 three teeth

00:30:46.000 now missing

00:30:46.600 or sliced

00:30:47.360 smiling

00:30:48.640 and talking about

00:30:49.160 how much he loved America

00:30:50.040 virtually every young girl

00:30:51.920 in America

00:30:52.260 would fall in love with him.

00:30:53.560 I mean

00:30:53.800 he's a good looking kid too

00:30:54.900 so it's like

00:30:55.440 virtually every

00:30:56.760 18 to 24 year old girl

00:30:58.520 will be saying

00:30:59.080 is he single?

00:30:59.900 How do I meet

00:31:01.320 Jack Hughes?

00:31:02.580 Only today

00:31:03.360 do we have

00:31:04.140 probably a majority

00:31:05.460 of these crazy loons

00:31:07.400 being like

00:31:07.920 I hate him

00:31:08.780 I hate his white skin

00:31:10.320 I hate his hockey

00:31:11.620 I hate his patriotism

00:31:12.860 and lying

00:31:13.860 that he and the others

00:31:15.140 come from some

00:31:15.720 massively wealthy background

00:31:17.060 Jack's parents

00:31:18.900 are all into hockey

00:31:20.280 the whole family's

00:31:20.920 into the hockey business

00:31:21.800 they're not making

00:31:22.480 huge tons of dough

00:31:23.540 the mom's like a consultant

00:31:24.900 to the women's hockey team

00:31:26.360 the dad worked

00:31:27.700 at a university

00:31:28.340 for a time

00:31:28.920 my dad worked

00:31:29.660 at a university

00:31:30.200 we were not rich

00:31:31.160 trust me

00:31:31.680 it's a lie

00:31:33.340 a lot of them

00:31:34.060 tend to be

00:31:34.420 most of them

00:31:34.820 tend to be

00:31:35.140 working class heroes

00:31:36.240 but you wonder

00:31:37.540 if it's about hockey

00:31:38.540 I mean

00:31:38.820 if you were to ask

00:31:39.840 that young woman

00:31:40.420 I hope you can

00:31:40.920 interview her

00:31:41.600 maybe

00:31:41.980 does she know

00:31:43.760 what hockey is?

00:31:44.860 I don't think

00:31:45.140 she's a fan

00:31:45.740 how many touchdowns

00:31:46.920 in hockey

00:31:47.200 until you win?

00:31:48.160 like she doesn't know

00:31:49.020 she doesn't know

00:31:49.340 anything about it

00:31:49.840 she's not mad at hockey

00:31:51.020 she's mad at her dad

00:31:52.420 and she's mad at the boys

00:31:54.620 who she had failed

00:31:55.560 relationships with

00:31:56.500 and she's mad at society

00:31:57.900 because it's made it impossible

00:31:59.120 for her to do the thing

00:32:01.000 that every person

00:32:01.880 deep down wants

00:32:02.660 more than anything

00:32:03.260 which is to procreate

00:32:04.580 and to love

00:32:05.720 your own children

00:32:06.580 and like she kind of knows

00:32:07.660 that's not going to happen

00:32:08.400 for her

00:32:08.780 a lot of young people

00:32:10.160 know that

00:32:10.660 and they're

00:32:11.380 really distressed by it

00:32:13.720 and why wouldn't they be?

00:32:15.140 so if you fix that

00:32:16.280 by the way

00:32:16.780 have you ever met

00:32:17.940 a happily married woman

00:32:19.240 in your life

00:32:20.040 happily married woman

00:32:21.220 who has those politics?

00:32:22.960 I've never met one

00:32:24.240 I mean maybe there are

00:32:25.440 I don't think they exist

00:32:27.080 no

00:32:27.300 right

00:32:27.980 no

00:32:29.040 I mean

00:32:29.940 honestly

00:32:30.920 if you have a positive relationship

00:32:32.040 with your dad

00:32:33.360 you'll wind up picking

00:32:34.420 a positive relationship

00:32:36.180 exactly

00:32:36.800 in a marriage

00:32:37.500 exactly

00:32:38.140 you will pick a guy

00:32:39.040 who will treat you respectfully

00:32:40.020 love you

00:32:40.840 and you know

00:32:42.040 have a great healthy life

00:32:43.400 in every way

00:32:44.140 and then you won't run around

00:32:46.020 hating men

00:32:46.660 like your interactions

00:32:47.960 with men are positive

00:32:48.820 exactly

00:32:49.540 you'll raise strong boys

00:32:50.840 like all of it

00:32:51.780 is self-fulfilling

00:32:52.620 but meanwhile

00:32:53.440 now we have this

00:32:54.240 so they decline

00:32:56.140 the women decline

00:32:57.020 to go to the White House

00:32:58.100 for

00:32:58.880 or sorry

00:32:59.320 to go to the

00:32:59.820 Washington

00:33:00.380 for the State of the Union

00:33:01.200 and they had

00:33:01.980 good reasons for that

00:33:03.520 that were stated

00:33:04.100 but now we're starting

00:33:04.860 to see some of these women

00:33:05.720 come out

00:33:06.100 in these interviews

00:33:06.620 baited by the press

00:33:07.500 owning

00:33:08.500 the fact that

00:33:09.700 they clearly don't like Trump

00:33:10.580 no one's shocked

00:33:11.840 they're in the right demo

00:33:12.920 to hate Trump

00:33:13.560 it seems like

00:33:15.480 the sort of

00:33:16.240 overwhelming patriotism

00:33:17.760 of the men's team

00:33:18.420 didn't necessarily

00:33:19.200 translate over to the women's team

00:33:20.540 though

00:33:20.720 that may be unfair

00:33:21.760 they may be patriotic

00:33:22.800 they may just hate Trump

00:33:23.820 but they are starting

00:33:24.820 to say negative things

00:33:25.480 about Trump

00:33:25.940 it's like okay

00:33:26.500 now's not the time

00:33:28.000 like just

00:33:28.540 just say

00:33:29.560 oh it was a joke

00:33:30.780 lighten up

00:33:31.300 that's all you should say

00:33:32.680 because by participating

00:33:34.160 what the press is doing

00:33:35.160 you know

00:33:35.620 they're also crapping

00:33:36.520 on their own moment

00:33:37.260 and they're crapping

00:33:38.060 on the guys moment

00:33:38.820 and the guys were in there

00:33:39.560 defending them

00:33:40.180 the guys were not

00:33:40.880 they didn't come up

00:33:41.580 with that joke

00:33:42.140 and the joke was so mild

00:33:43.780 like hockey players

00:33:44.960 are tougher than this

00:33:45.780 they're just pretending

00:33:46.440 not to be

00:33:47.040 but now you have the team

00:33:49.660 apparently getting ready

00:33:51.000 to go out to Vegas

00:33:51.820 to party with Flava Flav

00:33:53.480 who as it turns out

00:33:56.260 is not a paragon of virtue

00:33:57.620 when it comes to his relations

00:33:59.020 with women

00:33:59.680 his criminal record

00:34:01.100 suggests strongly

00:34:02.200 he really enjoys beating them

00:34:04.360 so I'm just not sure

00:34:06.240 that the guy with the

00:34:07.220 like slightly off color joke

00:34:10.040 in the locker room

00:34:10.940 is less preferable

00:34:12.440 than Flava Flav

00:34:14.020 who likes to punch women

00:34:15.420 in the face

00:34:16.080 but here is

00:34:17.340 the team

00:34:18.780 Team USA's

00:34:19.760 Alex Carpenter

00:34:20.520 on Wednesday

00:34:22.820 after a game

00:34:24.180 she just played

00:34:24.740 South 13

00:34:25.260 back in season now

00:34:26.600 but are you planning

00:34:27.220 to go to Vegas

00:34:27.880 and hang out

00:34:28.500 with Flava Flav

00:34:29.300 what's

00:34:30.140 what was that invitation

00:34:32.760 like to receive that

00:34:33.920 yeah I've been messaging

00:34:37.520 him a little bit here

00:34:38.440 he's probably my most

00:34:41.940 texted person right now

00:34:43.280 but yeah I think

00:34:45.020 it was definitely

00:34:45.620 super special

00:34:46.560 you know after

00:34:47.480 you know everything

00:34:48.560 that's been going around

00:34:49.720 online to be able to

00:34:51.300 you know have someone

00:34:52.420 step up like that

00:34:53.440 and really go to bat

00:34:54.240 for us

00:34:54.660 and I think

00:34:55.180 you know obviously

00:34:56.500 finish our seasons

00:34:57.440 up here

00:34:58.040 and then I think

00:34:58.740 we're fully going to

00:34:59.720 take advantage of that

00:35:00.900 and go have some fun

00:35:02.240 and celebrate

00:35:02.740 like we deserve to

00:35:04.120 amen

00:35:05.240 just FYI Tucker

00:35:08.620 2021

00:35:09.220 Flav

00:35:10.520 arrested for

00:35:11.300 misdemeanor

00:35:11.620 domestic battery

00:35:12.360 later dismissed

00:35:13.220 after he pleaded

00:35:14.000 guilty to a lesser

00:35:14.660 charge of misdemeanor

00:35:15.460 coercion

00:35:16.080 via People magazine

00:35:17.300 he allegedly grabbed

00:35:18.140 a woman

00:35:18.400 poked his finger

00:35:18.980 in her nose

00:35:19.400 and face

00:35:19.720 grabbed her

00:35:20.080 and threw her

00:35:20.380 to the ground

00:35:20.780 allegedly grabbed

00:35:21.420 a phone out of her

00:35:21.960 hand

00:35:22.220 2012

00:35:22.980 arrested for felony

00:35:23.960 assault with a deadly

00:35:24.720 weapon and misdemeanor

00:35:25.540 domestic violence

00:35:26.380 for allegedly

00:35:26.980 chasing and threatening

00:35:28.040 his fiance's

00:35:28.860 17 year old son

00:35:29.740 with a knife

00:35:30.260 in 2014

00:35:30.920 pleaded guilty

00:35:31.580 to reduce charges

00:35:32.300 of misdemeanor

00:35:32.780 attempted battery

00:35:33.500 93 served

00:35:34.820 90 days in prison

00:35:35.640 for shooting

00:35:36.060 at a neighbor

00:35:36.560 93 fired

00:35:38.200 an unlicensed

00:35:39.060 handgun

00:35:39.380 at a neighbor

00:35:39.760 in front of

00:35:40.060 the Bronx home

00:35:40.880 1991 served

00:35:42.160 30 days in jail

00:35:42.880 after pleading

00:35:43.340 guilty to assaulting

00:35:44.160 his girlfriend

00:35:44.700 we could go on

00:35:45.740 I'm just thinking

00:35:46.580 the mild joke

00:35:48.160 in the locker room

00:35:49.080 versus this

00:35:49.960 you know

00:35:50.840 it's an individual

00:35:51.760 choice I guess

00:35:52.500 yeah I mean

00:35:53.400 you know

00:35:54.160 you know

00:35:55.480 like I don't want

00:35:56.400 to be too blunt

00:35:57.020 but I don't think

00:35:57.800 Flava Flav

00:35:58.420 is making these

00:35:59.060 decisions

00:35:59.480 he's the Epstein

00:36:00.180 of this

00:36:00.560 of this scenario

00:36:01.540 here

00:36:01.940 I mean

00:36:02.300 this is

00:36:02.800 of course

00:36:03.400 an op

00:36:04.020 obviously

00:36:04.980 to divide

00:36:06.360 the country

00:36:07.020 men from women

00:36:08.160 to weaken

00:36:09.060 right

00:36:09.480 to weaken

00:36:10.280 this is the story

00:36:11.520 of the entire

00:36:11.940 country

00:36:12.400 for the last

00:36:12.780 60 years

00:36:13.640 ever

00:36:13.860 you know

00:36:14.380 at least

00:36:15.140 so

00:36:15.980 yeah

00:36:17.000 Flava

00:36:17.520 I mean

00:36:17.880 and these

00:36:18.340 poor girls

00:36:19.040 like I don't

00:36:19.580 think they have

00:36:20.020 any idea

00:36:20.780 right

00:36:21.420 they're pawns

00:36:22.200 too

00:36:22.480 everyone you're

00:36:23.160 watching on

00:36:23.960 television

00:36:24.480 is just

00:36:25.460 another creature

00:36:26.720 crawling around

00:36:27.280 the ant farm

00:36:27.880 totally unaware

00:36:28.760 that they're

00:36:29.960 you know

00:36:30.280 pawns in the

00:36:31.120 hands of others

00:36:31.960 toward a greater

00:36:32.580 purpose

00:36:33.080 and the greater

00:36:33.980 purpose is to

00:36:34.780 divide the country

00:36:35.400 from within

00:36:35.980 so it can be

00:36:36.980 controlled

00:36:37.400 obvious

00:36:38.340 it's so obvious

00:36:39.320 to me

00:36:39.680 and I

00:36:39.960 can I say

00:36:40.660 I get

00:36:41.180 I only understood

00:36:42.540 this when I spent

00:36:43.320 more time abroad

00:36:44.140 and watched

00:36:45.080 the way things work

00:36:46.460 in other countries

00:36:47.420 where they're less

00:36:48.040 sophisticated

00:36:48.460 and they don't have

00:36:49.220 a media infrastructure

00:36:50.060 that's as good

00:36:50.580 at lying as ours

00:36:51.800 things are way

00:36:52.620 more out in the open

00:36:53.820 because human nature

00:36:54.660 doesn't change

00:36:55.420 country to country

00:36:56.620 people are just

00:36:57.200 fundamentally the same

00:36:58.140 because they're all

00:36:58.580 created by God

00:36:59.140 and you see this

00:37:00.180 in every country

00:37:00.880 around the world

00:37:01.340 divide the population

00:37:02.840 so you can control it

00:37:03.940 and then you come back

00:37:05.140 to this country

00:37:05.500 like oh that's what's

00:37:06.340 going that's what's

00:37:07.260 going on

00:37:08.000 no wonder we're

00:37:08.580 telling people to be

00:37:09.520 fat that it's

00:37:10.560 beautiful to have

00:37:11.920 type 2 diabetes

00:37:12.800 or whatever

00:37:13.380 because you're trying

00:37:13.840 to weaken them

00:37:14.400 of course

00:37:15.000 but who is doing it

00:37:17.340 well I think

00:37:18.940 you know

00:37:19.400 the most powerful

00:37:20.180 people in the world

00:37:21.180 obviously are the

00:37:22.400 richest

00:37:22.700 so the biggest

00:37:23.340 companies have

00:37:24.160 the greatest

00:37:24.840 incentive

00:37:26.000 to take control

00:37:28.440 they're the biggest

00:37:29.240 shareholders

00:37:29.700 if you think

00:37:30.200 of the United States

00:37:30.860 or the West

00:37:31.660 or the world

00:37:32.060 itself as a company

00:37:33.200 which is not a crazy

00:37:34.180 way to think of it

00:37:34.800 a publicly traded

00:37:36.200 company

00:37:36.680 as in any publicly

00:37:38.280 traded company

00:37:38.840 the people with the

00:37:39.420 biggest say

00:37:39.800 are the biggest

00:37:40.160 shareholders

00:37:40.600 so if you

00:37:41.880 own the most stock

00:37:43.300 you have the most

00:37:44.480 votes

00:37:44.900 and so I think

00:37:46.880 of it that way

00:37:47.560 so COVID for example

00:37:48.780 who won during COVID

00:37:50.080 well the biggest

00:37:50.820 companies Amazon

00:37:51.500 won the big box

00:37:52.900 retailers

00:37:53.420 where for some

00:37:54.460 reason it was

00:37:54.940 impossible to

00:37:55.560 transmit COVID

00:37:56.220 indoors but only

00:37:57.100 in a big box

00:37:57.660 retailer

00:37:58.060 but in a mom

00:37:58.880 and pop store

00:37:59.420 it was incredibly

00:38:00.020 dangerous

00:38:00.440 like what's that

00:38:01.340 and they became

00:38:03.260 stronger more

00:38:03.960 powerful the online

00:38:04.960 retailers became

00:38:05.820 the strongest

00:38:06.880 and the most

00:38:07.380 powerful but

00:38:08.100 more powerful

00:38:08.760 even than

00:38:09.940 they were

00:38:10.800 the digital

00:38:11.880 media companies

00:38:12.800 Amazon

00:38:13.280 Facebook

00:38:13.980 etc

00:38:14.560 they became

00:38:15.320 the most

00:38:15.780 powerful because

00:38:16.320 that's the only

00:38:16.660 way people can

00:38:17.020 communicate

00:38:17.400 and they were

00:38:18.940 simultaneously

00:38:19.460 the same

00:38:20.160 people enforcing

00:38:21.980 the COVID

00:38:23.400 restrictions

00:38:24.220 that they

00:38:25.200 benefited from

00:38:26.060 so that's

00:38:26.860 just and I'm

00:38:27.260 only bringing

00:38:27.600 up COVID

00:38:27.980 because it

00:38:28.480 was the most

00:38:28.800 obvious example

00:38:29.700 of this

00:38:30.260 so if you

00:38:31.580 break apart

00:38:32.320 families and

00:38:33.200 you destroy

00:38:33.660 the loyalty

00:38:34.940 between husband

00:38:35.780 and wife

00:38:36.220 which they've

00:38:36.600 definitely done

00:38:37.320 what do you

00:38:37.760 get

00:38:38.120 well you get

00:38:38.960 employees who

00:38:40.520 are much

00:38:41.400 more flexible

00:38:42.160 much more

00:38:42.960 willing to

00:38:43.740 give more

00:38:44.400 of themselves

00:38:44.920 to the company

00:38:45.760 you get more

00:38:46.280 obedience

00:38:46.700 is what you

00:38:47.240 actually get

00:38:47.980 women in the

00:38:48.840 workforce

00:38:49.100 the greatest

00:38:49.600 thing that ever

00:38:50.160 happened to

00:38:50.740 American companies

00:38:51.460 ever ever

00:38:52.480 because women

00:38:52.880 are amazing

00:38:53.440 employees

00:38:54.020 because they

00:38:54.720 are in general

00:38:55.520 I can say

00:38:55.960 as an employer

00:38:56.420 of many women

00:38:56.940 they're more

00:38:57.600 loyal they will

00:38:58.920 actually do what

00:38:59.700 you ask them

00:39:00.240 to do they

00:39:00.880 won't like

00:39:01.320 freelance or

00:39:01.900 space out or

00:39:02.520 go to a strip

00:39:02.980 bar for lunch

00:39:03.600 like they're

00:39:03.940 amazing employees

00:39:05.000 and in order

00:39:07.400 to get them

00:39:08.140 you have to

00:39:08.720 convince them

00:39:09.500 that working

00:39:10.160 for some bank

00:39:11.240 is more important

00:39:12.120 than having like

00:39:13.200 a real marriage

00:39:14.080 and raising kids

00:39:15.260 that's a hard

00:39:15.920 sell so you

00:39:17.240 have to break

00:39:18.040 the relationship

00:39:18.820 between the

00:39:20.660 husband and the

00:39:21.400 wife you have

00:39:21.900 to destroy

00:39:22.200 the family

00:39:22.620 in order to

00:39:23.100 do that

00:39:23.440 in order to

00:39:23.920 get cheap

00:39:25.220 reliable labor

00:39:26.100 and it's

00:39:27.680 so obvious

00:39:28.600 to me

00:39:29.080 that that's

00:39:29.800 what happened

00:39:30.520 so so obvious

00:39:31.340 in any scenario

00:39:32.640 just ask yourself

00:39:33.320 the obvious

00:39:33.620 question

00:39:33.900 this happened

00:39:35.080 it didn't

00:39:36.100 happen naturally

00:39:36.860 it happened

00:39:37.260 because people

00:39:37.720 wanted it to

00:39:38.300 happen in any

00:39:38.920 scenario

00:39:39.360 who benefited

00:39:40.340 that's not a

00:39:41.120 crazy thing to

00:39:41.780 ask that's the

00:39:42.580 first thing the

00:39:43.080 police ask

00:39:43.740 trust me

00:39:44.380 I was a police

00:39:45.240 reporter for a

00:39:46.000 year I

00:39:46.700 followed cops

00:39:47.660 around to watch

00:39:48.220 them investigate

00:39:48.700 crimes the first

00:39:49.620 question they ask

00:39:50.520 is who benefited

00:39:51.200 because that's

00:39:52.780 the most telling

00:39:53.660 question right

00:39:55.180 and so I think

00:39:56.440 it's fair to ask

00:39:57.040 that

00:39:57.220 it solves

00:39:57.540 90% of all

00:39:59.240 crimes

00:39:59.560 who benefits

00:40:01.420 who benefits

00:40:02.880 if we

00:40:03.400 bomb Iran

00:40:04.820 this is scary

00:40:06.320 okay

00:40:06.860 here's the

00:40:07.480 latest

00:40:07.840 we have

00:40:09.540 the largest

00:40:10.460 force

00:40:12.120 amassed

00:40:12.740 in the Middle

00:40:13.460 East since

00:40:13.860 2003

00:40:14.460 the deployment

00:40:15.680 is unlike

00:40:16.020 anything the

00:40:16.480 U.S. has

00:40:16.800 done since

00:40:17.220 2003 when it

00:40:18.400 amassed the

00:40:18.780 forces behind

00:40:19.220 the invasion of

00:40:19.760 Iraq

00:40:20.060 we've shifted

00:40:20.900 more than

00:40:21.240 150 aircraft

00:40:22.440 to bases in

00:40:23.440 Europe and

00:40:23.720 the Middle

00:40:23.940 East

00:40:24.220 I don't know

00:40:28.020 how you pronounce

00:40:28.420 it but there's

00:40:29.120 an air base we

00:40:29.660 have in Jordan

00:40:30.160 that's been a

00:40:30.860 key destination

00:40:31.460 for U.S. air

00:40:32.200 assets streaming

00:40:33.060 into the region

00:40:33.580 more than 60

00:40:34.220 warplanes were

00:40:34.840 visible in

00:40:35.580 satellite imagery

00:40:36.240 taken Friday

00:40:36.820 more than a

00:40:37.780 dozen F-35

00:40:38.560 fighter jets

00:40:39.200 lined up on

00:40:39.880 a tarmac

00:40:40.380 roughly a

00:40:40.960 third of

00:40:41.980 all active

00:40:42.540 U.S.

00:40:42.960 ships are

00:40:43.400 now in the

00:40:43.900 region

00:40:44.160 warships in

00:40:44.820 the area

00:40:45.120 also equipped

00:40:45.780 with hundreds

00:40:46.260 of Tomahawk

00:40:46.840 missiles

00:40:47.260 aircraft carriers

00:40:48.480 accompanied by

00:40:49.100 guided missile

00:40:49.820 destroyers

00:40:50.540 and various

00:40:51.600 aircraft and

00:40:52.420 helicopters

00:40:53.000 USS Abraham

00:40:54.180 Lincoln

00:40:54.660 USS Gerald

00:40:57.720 R.

00:40:58.000 Ford

00:40:58.180 the Lincoln

00:40:58.520 has not

00:40:58.820 publicly

00:40:59.100 broadcast its

00:40:59.740 location for

00:41:00.260 more than a

00:41:00.620 week but it's

00:41:01.020 believed to be

00:41:01.520 operating somewhere

00:41:02.140 near Oman

00:41:02.760 Gerald R.

00:41:04.000 Ford spotted

00:41:04.520 off the

00:41:04.780 Greek island

00:41:05.140 of Crete

00:41:05.560 on Monday

00:41:06.100 and I

00:41:07.480 could go

00:41:08.040 on

00:41:08.380 somewhere

00:41:09.700 Lindsey Graham

00:41:11.480 just got a

00:41:11.860 chill down his

00:41:12.340 spine and that

00:41:12.960 special little

00:41:13.480 feeling just at

00:41:14.560 the list of

00:41:15.440 that military

00:41:16.580 buildup

00:41:17.000 Tucker

00:41:17.260 you're having

00:41:18.040 a different

00:41:18.320 feeling

00:41:18.620 so am I

00:41:19.260 I don't get

00:41:21.480 it I gotta be

00:41:22.060 honest I don't

00:41:22.500 get it

00:41:22.960 because we were

00:41:24.480 just told by the

00:41:25.140 president in July

00:41:26.160 I covered it at

00:41:27.300 length you didn't

00:41:28.440 want him to go

00:41:28.940 into Iran with

00:41:30.120 those bombs

00:41:30.620 in July

00:41:31.740 we did

00:41:32.760 I was fine

00:41:34.320 with it

00:41:34.640 that I was

00:41:35.460 like whatever

00:41:35.900 okay fine let's

00:41:36.540 take out the

00:41:37.040 military facility

00:41:37.960 or the nuclear

00:41:38.520 facility and then

00:41:39.260 when they said

00:41:39.680 they destroyed

00:41:40.160 it I didn't

00:41:41.560 know I saw

00:41:41.940 the conflicting

00:41:43.300 reporting on

00:41:43.860 whether we did

00:41:44.280 or we didn't

00:41:44.780 but the president

00:41:45.360 certainly said we

00:41:45.980 did and now

00:41:47.100 here we are

00:41:47.580 six months later

00:41:48.220 saying we have

00:41:48.780 to go back in

00:41:49.240 to stop the

00:41:49.620 nuclear program

00:41:50.240 the one that we

00:41:51.160 just allegedly

00:41:51.700 bombed and

00:41:52.200 destroyed a few

00:41:53.400 months ago

00:41:53.920 right

00:41:54.300 I watched a

00:41:55.700 debate on

00:41:56.040 Piers Morgan

00:41:56.480 today with two

00:41:57.120 pro-Israel folks

00:41:58.120 and two anti

00:41:58.780 and the pro-Israel

00:42:00.320 woman was saying

00:42:00.860 yeah Israel

00:42:01.460 benefits

00:42:01.860 it's this is

00:42:02.680 this is definitely

00:42:03.560 good for Israel

00:42:04.120 of course we want

00:42:04.780 this

00:42:05.060 right

00:42:05.520 I accept that

00:42:06.380 I've heard you

00:42:06.760 say on your show

00:42:07.360 great no problem

00:42:08.600 but what do we

00:42:10.400 get out of it

00:42:10.920 like that's fine

00:42:12.160 for them to want

00:42:12.720 it and advocate

00:42:13.200 what do we get

00:42:14.100 at it why is

00:42:14.860 President Trump

00:42:15.440 considering this

00:42:16.300 I don't think the

00:42:17.880 president wants to

00:42:18.460 do it I think he's

00:42:19.180 been really clear

00:42:19.800 about that

00:42:20.420 I spoke to him

00:42:22.240 the other day

00:42:22.860 he didn't say

00:42:23.380 anything to me

00:42:23.920 that he doesn't

00:42:24.340 say in public

00:42:25.100 all the time

00:42:25.700 Trump is amazingly

00:42:27.080 transparent in that

00:42:28.080 way I've spoken to

00:42:29.240 him a lot I speak

00:42:29.740 to him regularly a

00:42:30.520 lot and he never

00:42:31.820 says anything that

00:42:32.780 he wouldn't say

00:42:33.840 in the middle of a

00:42:34.500 speech you know

00:42:35.440 there's no like

00:42:36.360 there's no secret

00:42:37.360 agenda that I've

00:42:38.400 ever detected

00:42:39.040 and he said I

00:42:40.400 don't want to do

00:42:40.860 this I want a

00:42:41.440 diplomatic solution

00:42:42.220 I don't want to

00:42:42.780 go to war I

00:42:43.300 ran against going

00:42:44.020 to war I don't

00:42:44.760 want Iran to have

00:42:45.340 a nuclear weapon

00:42:45.960 that's what he

00:42:46.800 says in public

00:42:47.880 and in private

00:42:48.640 on the phone

00:42:49.240 and in person

00:42:49.900 and on stage

00:42:50.540 and so I

00:42:51.680 believe it

00:42:52.160 Iran doesn't

00:42:53.780 have a nuclear

00:42:54.240 weapon it

00:42:54.840 doesn't have the

00:42:55.340 means to get

00:42:56.040 a nuclear weapon

00:42:56.740 if it had a

00:42:57.360 nuclear weapon

00:42:57.780 to the United

00:42:58.300 States Mark

00:42:59.400 Levin said

00:43:00.120 three days ago

00:43:00.760 in his podcast

00:43:01.380 they've got

00:43:01.780 nuclear tipped

00:43:02.300 ICBMs that's

00:43:03.140 a lie he should

00:43:04.000 be removed from

00:43:04.500 his job for

00:43:04.980 saying that because

00:43:05.600 it's untrue and

00:43:06.160 he knows it's

00:43:06.560 untrue this is not

00:43:07.960 about protecting

00:43:08.600 the United States

00:43:09.060 among many

00:43:09.780 other reasons

00:43:10.580 well that's right

00:43:11.420 but but you

00:43:12.320 this is incredibly

00:43:13.400 high stakes I

00:43:14.200 mean I could go

00:43:14.680 on for an hour

00:43:15.300 about what could

00:43:16.140 go wrong in

00:43:17.680 this war if it

00:43:18.840 takes place I

00:43:19.560 think it's likely

00:43:20.100 to take place but

00:43:21.440 it's not assured

00:43:22.080 the president

00:43:22.620 decides and he

00:43:23.720 has not made

00:43:24.600 that decision but

00:43:25.380 all things being

00:43:26.020 equal it will

00:43:26.560 happen and you

00:43:27.880 could see massive

00:43:28.640 disruption to the

00:43:29.520 US economy you

00:43:30.200 could see a lot

00:43:30.700 of Americans die

00:43:31.420 there are tens of

00:43:31.980 thousands in the

00:43:32.600 region both military

00:43:33.980 and non-military and

00:43:35.120 you could see some of

00:43:36.100 our closest allies in

00:43:36.980 the world the Gulf

00:43:37.840 States who supply

00:43:39.120 the energy for

00:43:39.980 civilization around

00:43:40.940 the world you

00:43:41.500 could see them

00:43:42.160 disabled by this

00:43:43.500 and then you

00:43:44.500 could see massive

00:43:46.160 refugee crises

00:43:47.520 around the world

00:43:48.600 because the plan is

00:43:49.960 to take out the

00:43:50.700 leadership of Iran

00:43:51.620 but there's no plan

00:43:52.940 after that so it

00:43:54.440 would be an open

00:43:55.120 wound 92 million

00:43:56.640 people on a huge

00:43:57.960 landmass and that

00:44:00.820 would continue the

00:44:02.600 invasion of Europe

00:44:03.520 by immigrants the

00:44:05.440 lot of them would

00:44:05.920 wind up in the

00:44:06.780 Gulf states directly

00:44:07.720 across the Persian

00:44:08.500 Gulf and a lot of

00:44:09.380 them would wind up

00:44:09.880 here in the United

00:44:10.540 States so there's

00:44:11.900 kind of no upside

00:44:12.700 but here's the way

00:44:13.440 to think about it

00:44:14.020 we're looking at it

00:44:15.160 through the wrong

00:44:15.700 frame this is not

00:44:16.460 about protecting the

00:44:17.340 United States

00:44:17.980 obviously it's not

00:44:19.600 about even protecting

00:44:20.400 Israel if you're

00:44:21.500 Israel and your main

00:44:22.620 goal is not to get

00:44:23.720 hit and to keep your

00:44:25.020 city safe the last

00:44:25.960 thing you're gonna do

00:44:26.400 is try to provoke Iran

00:44:27.580 into lobbing ballistic

00:44:28.600 missiles into your

00:44:29.340 country you would

00:44:29.920 never do that no

00:44:31.440 this is about sweeping

00:44:34.280 away any opposition

00:44:35.700 to Israel's regional

00:44:37.260 hegemony Israel

00:44:38.800 believes as the only

00:44:40.040 nuclear armed power

00:44:40.900 in the Middle East

00:44:41.620 that it should have

00:44:42.300 control over the

00:44:43.420 region and by the

00:44:44.100 way I'm not attacking

00:44:44.900 them every nuclear

00:44:46.280 armed power feels

00:44:47.020 that way we feel

00:44:47.660 that way what's

00:44:48.800 going on in South

00:44:49.440 America we we have

00:44:50.440 a right to to weigh

00:44:51.460 in on that because

00:44:52.140 we're the big dog

00:44:53.060 they feel that way

00:44:54.100 and what stands in

00:44:55.520 their way well Iran

00:44:56.600 primarily also Turkey

00:44:58.160 and then the six

00:44:59.700 Gulf energy producing

00:45:01.660 monarchies primarily

00:45:03.840 Qatar because they're

00:45:05.680 disobedient they don't

00:45:06.840 follow Israel's lead

00:45:08.860 on a lot of different

00:45:09.580 things and this war

00:45:11.620 and of course the

00:45:12.400 United States because

00:45:13.040 the United States is

00:45:13.520 constantly telling

00:45:14.440 Israel you know you

00:45:15.140 can do this you can't

00:45:15.820 do that Trump's like no

00:45:16.540 you can't take over the

00:45:17.820 entire West Bank and

00:45:18.980 kick all the Christians

00:45:20.580 out or whatever he you

00:45:21.800 know the United States is

00:45:22.520 a constraint on Israel so

00:45:23.820 they want the US out of

00:45:25.160 the region why wouldn't

00:45:26.620 they and they're of

00:45:27.940 course pivoting to India

00:45:29.200 Israel is has decided it

00:45:31.420 needs a superpower to

00:45:32.540 exist it's only 9 million

00:45:33.640 people it's a really

00:45:34.320 small country so they

00:45:35.540 have to be an alliance

00:45:36.460 with a larger nuclear

00:45:37.340 armed power they have

00:45:38.400 to or they won't exist

00:45:39.420 and they've picked

00:45:40.500 India Prime Minister

00:45:41.640 Modi was in the

00:45:42.820 Knesset yesterday and

00:45:44.420 meeting with Netanyahu

00:45:45.260 yesterday and that is

00:45:46.120 the plan Israel will

00:45:47.500 pivot from the United

00:45:48.260 States to India and I

00:45:52.020 don't think anyone's

00:45:52.660 even pretending that's

00:45:53.480 not happening because

00:45:54.320 support for Israel

00:45:55.120 United States is going

00:45:55.960 down so this is the

00:45:56.720 last opportunity for

00:45:58.660 Israel to use the US

00:45:59.940 military to sweep away

00:46:02.340 one of the few remaining

00:46:04.960 speed bumps on the way

00:46:06.540 to controlling the

00:46:07.360 entire Middle East and

00:46:08.060 having hegemony and

00:46:08.960 what does that mean well

00:46:09.780 Israel would like to

00:46:10.440 expand its borders through

00:46:12.000 the Levant into Syria

00:46:13.740 they were taking land

00:46:14.540 there and into Lebanon

00:46:15.500 same thing and maybe

00:46:17.340 even extending farther

00:46:18.220 north from that but

00:46:19.240 Israel wants to be

00:46:20.260 physically larger every

00:46:22.180 country does we do this

00:46:24.140 is just a feature of

00:46:25.140 human nature but they

00:46:26.360 want to be larger and

00:46:27.040 they can't because Iran's

00:46:28.860 in the way Qatar's in

00:46:29.860 the way the US is in

00:46:30.860 the way and Turkey's in

00:46:31.800 the way so one by one

00:46:32.820 they're diminishing

00:46:33.820 them does anyone think

00:46:34.500 America will be stronger

00:46:35.520 after this war of course

00:46:36.600 not America will be

00:46:37.700 weaker we can't afford

00:46:38.660 it we have no money

00:46:39.220 don't know how long it

00:46:40.140 will last all the

00:46:41.520 reports in the news are

00:46:42.600 that even Dan Raisin

00:46:44.160 Cain the chairman of the

00:46:44.900 Joint Chiefs has been

00:46:45.740 saying this could easily

00:46:47.380 spin into a very

00:46:48.460 prolonged quagmire

00:46:49.920 President Trump truth

00:46:51.260 doubt that's not true

00:46:52.120 he'll do whatever I ask

00:46:53.300 him to he he's ready to

00:46:54.560 go he all he knows how

00:46:55.400 to do is win but I

00:46:56.700 mean it's been reported

00:46:57.540 in multiple papers now

00:46:58.840 that Cain is saying

00:47:00.320 this this is fraught

00:47:01.660 this could be I don't

00:47:03.020 know anyone and just

00:47:04.180 doesn't feel that way

00:47:05.160 no one in the Pentagon

00:47:05.800 I've talked to a bunch

00:47:06.420 of people in the

00:47:06.920 Pentagon we don't have

00:47:07.920 the munitions for this

00:47:09.060 okay just to be and

00:47:10.100 this is again been

00:47:10.840 reported publicly this is

00:47:11.800 not secret it is a fact

00:47:13.600 and this is the analysis

00:47:14.680 of the Pentagon that if

00:47:16.700 this war goes two weeks

00:47:18.320 three weeks a month the

00:47:20.840 United States will not

00:47:21.960 have enough munitions to

00:47:24.240 wage a major war for 10

00:47:25.980 years okay no war with a

00:47:28.800 peer or near peer nation

00:47:30.100 for 10 years because we

00:47:31.260 don't the industrial

00:47:31.800 capacity to replace those

00:47:33.540 munitions we've already

00:47:34.380 expended so many of them

00:47:35.720 in defense of Israel in the

00:47:37.000 last 12 months Ukraine and

00:47:38.820 and in Ukraine so it's

00:47:40.260 like there's no way that

00:47:43.120 this helps United States

00:47:43.880 we're not in a place to do

00:47:45.420 it I strongly think the

00:47:46.880 president understands that

00:47:48.560 certainly there's no one

00:47:49.800 that I'm let me just be

00:47:50.660 blunt there's no one I'm

00:47:51.840 aware of in this

00:47:52.720 administration who is

00:47:54.100 aggressively pushing for

00:47:55.280 this war all of the

00:47:57.000 pressure is coming from

00:47:58.120 Netanyahu it's why he went

00:47:59.200 to the White House seven

00:47:59.880 times in one year it

00:48:01.240 wasn't to be nice it was

00:48:02.400 to push for regime change

00:48:03.640 in Iran I'm not attacking

00:48:05.140 him that's not anti-semitic

00:48:06.820 it's not even anti-Israel

00:48:08.040 it's an acknowledgement of

00:48:09.340 the truth and no matter

00:48:10.520 what you slander people

00:48:12.920 with in the end the truth

00:48:14.500 remains true sorry and so

00:48:16.780 they want this the only

00:48:18.220 reason we would do it

00:48:19.220 but not just him not just

00:48:20.320 him his his rabidly neocon

00:48:22.520 friends here like Mark

00:48:24.020 Levin like Lindsey Graham

00:48:25.800 I mean there really is a

00:48:27.020 bloodlust by some here

00:48:29.060 domestically who do have

00:48:30.180 the ear of the president

00:48:31.000 to to take out this

00:48:32.860 regime as though it's

00:48:34.020 going to be as easy as

00:48:34.880 the Maduro raid well but

00:48:37.040 everyone look it this is

00:48:38.620 again a country of 92

00:48:40.400 million people that has

00:48:42.160 been under sanction since

00:48:43.260 1979 it is an enormous

00:48:45.920 country it's the oldest

00:48:46.800 civilization in the world

00:48:47.900 and they have a huge

00:48:49.140 non-nuclear arsenal of

00:48:52.000 ballistic missiles huge

00:48:53.160 it's probably you know

00:48:53.780 the estimates are publicly

00:48:54.920 available you could bore

00:48:55.980 yourself all day reading

00:48:56.700 about it this is a very

00:48:58.600 serious thing when we

00:49:00.100 invaded Iraq in 2003

00:49:02.140 almost exactly 33 years

00:49:04.620 ago that country had 25

00:49:06.980 million people and it was

00:49:08.520 one-sixth the size of Iran

00:49:10.880 and we were there for 20

00:49:11.920 years and we never fully

00:49:12.840 pacified it this is a

00:49:14.540 country of 92 million

00:49:16.580 people and like reality

00:49:17.940 matters actually like the

00:49:19.460 number of people who live

00:49:20.160 in your country the

00:49:20.880 armaments they possess it's

00:49:22.520 landmass these are

00:49:23.560 relevant facts for people

00:49:24.740 who plan wars and they

00:49:25.740 help determine the

00:49:26.340 outcomes of those wars and

00:49:27.960 occupations so this is pure

00:49:30.060 insanity and what people

00:49:32.360 like Levin whom I'm not

00:49:33.660 attacking I feel sorry for

00:49:34.820 because he's clearly living

00:49:35.640 in hell but what they're

00:49:36.440 trying to do is a species

00:49:38.640 of witchcraft and it's

00:49:40.400 really simple you repeat

00:49:41.940 something until it becomes

00:49:43.700 true community must die we're

00:49:45.840 going into war we're going

00:49:46.640 to knock off the

00:49:47.260 government this is good

00:49:48.420 for us anyone who's

00:49:49.200 against it is an anti-saman

00:49:50.300 a nazi should be expelled

00:49:51.560 benedict arnold not allowed

00:49:52.680 in the white house you keep

00:49:53.980 repeating things that are

00:49:55.120 untrue until they become

00:49:58.160 true you speak you create

00:50:02.080 truth by speaking in the

00:50:03.780 beginning was the word right

00:50:05.400 there is a there's a holy

00:50:07.180 power there's a supernatural

00:50:08.300 power in words describing

00:50:10.140 things is different from

00:50:11.880 simply doing them and if you

00:50:13.200 you can talk reality into

00:50:15.460 being this is what an

00:50:16.940 incantation is that's what a

00:50:18.200 spell is it's not like

00:50:19.160 spooky like crazy stuff it's

00:50:21.960 the lived reality of every

00:50:23.760 person say it and it becomes

00:50:25.640 true and that's exactly what

00:50:27.800 they're trying to do and

00:50:29.180 nobody is making the case for

00:50:30.960 how how does this help the

00:50:32.080 united states how does this

00:50:33.500 make us richer safer happier

00:50:35.540 zero and my concern is if this

00:50:38.600 actually happens and it's

00:50:39.700 likely to what then there will

00:50:42.480 be no defense like the we

00:50:44.720 wage the iraq war for israel

00:50:46.600 it's obvious now the people

00:50:48.020 who planned it say that out

00:50:49.360 loud there was there were no

00:50:50.720 wmd the israelis told us there

00:50:53.020 were wmd there weren't we know

00:50:54.660 that now they're telling us

00:50:55.420 their wmd in iran also untrue

00:50:57.480 but it took 20 years to figure

00:50:59.560 that out if we go in maybe at

00:51:02.140 the end of this week or

00:51:02.860 whenever every american will

00:51:05.100 know this wasn't done for us it

00:51:06.520 was done for a country of nine

00:51:07.660 million people where are we

00:51:09.940 then then it's clear we have

00:51:11.460 no sovereignty it's clear who

00:51:13.540 did this to us our leaders our

00:51:16.440 leaders did this to us at the

00:51:17.660 behest of foreigners and you

00:51:19.740 sort of feel like at that

00:51:20.600 point i i don't know how the

00:51:22.080 system works at that point i'm

00:51:23.220 really worried about not just

00:51:24.440 no but the long-term effects on

00:51:26.240 our country we've done enough

00:51:27.420 for israel we're we're allies

00:51:29.320 with israel we've done a lot for

00:51:30.820 israel i i'm firmly in the

00:51:32.340 camp of we don't need to do

00:51:33.300 this too and by the way we

00:51:34.800 already we already did this we

00:51:36.160 already took out their nuclear

00:51:37.020 facilities or so we were told

00:51:38.720 by the president and his team

00:51:40.740 i'd like to take them at their

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00:53:47.320 um so while we were in the break

00:53:50.480 your your pal mike pompeo posted on x

00:53:55.140 the following as the u.s enters a new

00:53:58.040 round of negotiations with iran because

00:54:00.500 by the way folks that's those are

00:54:01.580 happening today jared kushner and

00:54:03.680 steve wikoff are doing this both

00:54:05.360 directly and indirectly um trying to

00:54:08.000 avoid this thing remember the only

00:54:10.400 outcome worth having is the verifiable

00:54:12.360 destruction of the regime's nuclear and

00:54:15.240 ballistic missile programs and an end

00:54:17.560 to its support for global terrorism

00:54:19.120 unfortunately the odds are slim to

00:54:22.440 none so what do you make of pompeo's

00:54:26.860 framing of the issue here mike pompeo is

00:54:29.640 a criminal who should be arrested for

00:54:31.580 plotting the murder of julian assange

00:54:33.080 when he had no right to do that

00:54:34.260 assange had never been charged with

00:54:35.760 anything in the united states and

00:54:37.080 pompeo plotted his murder so he should

00:54:38.880 be arrested i've said that to him and

00:54:41.440 i mean it so with that out of the way

00:54:42.820 let me say we're not doing this because

00:54:46.060 iran poses an existential threat to us

00:54:48.340 or to israel we are being pushed into

00:54:50.940 war by benjamin netanyahu because

00:54:53.140 benjamin netanyahu wants regional

00:54:55.960 hegemony in the middle east it's really

00:54:57.720 simple and i wish people just say that

00:54:59.620 and by the way if israel wants to

00:55:01.580 overthrow the government of iran

00:55:02.640 government of iran and deal with the

00:55:04.020 consequences it can it can do they can

00:55:05.720 do whatever it wants it's got nuclear

00:55:06.880 weapons but stop lying to me and telling

00:55:10.360 me that there's some peace deal you

00:55:13.040 want where iran has to you know give up

00:55:15.980 any sovereignty at all but they don't

00:55:17.940 get sanctions relief they can have no

00:55:19.760 weapons of any kind it's not about the

00:55:21.900 weapons it's about iran standing in the

00:55:24.420 way of israel's regional territorial

00:55:27.680 aims obviously that's not embarrassing

00:55:30.380 by the way every country feels this way

00:55:33.300 every big nuclear armed power feels like i

00:55:35.480 should get to control the area i live in

00:55:37.560 i mean just i they feel that way it's

00:55:39.460 okay but stop lying it's the americans

00:55:42.560 who never stop lying shills like pompeo

00:55:44.940 who're getting paid from who knows how

00:55:47.020 many different groups to lie to you and

00:55:49.480 coming across as some sort of moral voice

00:55:51.300 or people poor mike huckabee guys like

00:55:53.280 that who are just like under some spell

00:55:54.960 let's just be honest about what this is

00:55:57.300 it's not about iran's weapons it's about

00:56:00.000 israel's ambitions and iran stands and

00:56:03.040 now by the way in case you haven't

00:56:04.480 noticed they're making bellicose noises

00:56:06.940 about turkey oh the next war is against

00:56:09.620 turkey i have no feelings about turkey

00:56:11.560 or erdogan one way or the other i mean

00:56:12.960 there's nothing farther from my life

00:56:14.340 than that it's where men go for hair

00:56:15.700 transplants that's what i know about

00:56:17.080 i like bodrum okay it's like it's

00:56:19.660 pretty that's where you get on the boat

00:56:21.180 it's fine it's all fine but now we have

00:56:23.960 to hate turkey why because they are the

00:56:26.120 last remaining nation in the region that

00:56:29.540 could stand in the way of israel

00:56:30.800 controlling the whole region this is about

00:56:32.660 territory bb sees his country as a

00:56:35.440 great global power himself as a great

00:56:36.960 global leader i get it not attacking him

00:56:38.900 doesn't make me an anti-semi it's just i'm

00:56:40.660 noticing this and they want what every

00:56:44.480 leader like that wants which is to be the

00:56:46.540 caesar of his realm okay but they're just

00:56:49.060 lying to us and telling us they've got

00:56:51.180 nuclear tipped icbms coming for new york

00:56:53.580 stop you liar you're lying and you want

00:56:56.900 my military been lying for a long time

00:56:59.080 it's insane they've been lying for a lot

00:57:00.660 this i saw you did this on your show this

00:57:02.940 soundbite which we're going to play but

00:57:04.100 it when when this first started again like

00:57:06.620 the build-up to what we did in july with

00:57:09.420 bb like they're this close to having the

00:57:11.280 nuclear bomb like i it was one of the aha

00:57:14.380 moments that i've had over the past year

00:57:16.140 when it came to israel because i was there i

00:57:18.920 was at fox news for each of those un addresses

00:57:22.960 by bb and the one that i remember in

00:57:25.240 particular where he had the picture of the

00:57:27.160 bomb and it looked like the round bomb

00:57:29.040 that like they do in the cartoons and said

00:57:31.980 that they're within months and i was a naive

00:57:34.680 young journalist at fox who really didn't

00:57:36.900 do a lot of foreign policy coverage like oh

00:57:38.420 wow that sounds dire god that's bad we

00:57:40.060 better pay attention if that's true i i think

00:57:42.200 iran hates us that's what they say and they

00:57:43.820 hate israel so wow and here we were 14

00:57:47.160 years removed from that speech with him

00:57:49.600 saying the same thing and truly it's just

00:57:52.420 like over time if you paid any attention

00:57:55.360 you realize he's been lying every every

00:57:58.540 time he has an agenda they weren't he's

00:58:02.020 said it for years if they were within months

00:58:04.220 of getting the bomb back then that was i

00:58:05.500 think 2012 why are we now at 2026 and they

00:58:08.240 don't have it um and you ran a similar clip

00:58:11.260 on your show i think it was last night

00:58:13.140 from dating back to the mid 90s yes we're

00:58:16.380 going to show it in part here watch the most

00:58:18.660 dangerous of these regimes is iran that

00:58:21.720 has wed a cruel despotism to a fanatic

00:58:24.940 militancy only the united states can lead

00:58:27.540 this vital international effort to stop the

00:58:30.460 nuclearization of terrorist states but the

00:58:33.440 deadline for attaining this goal is getting

00:58:36.040 extremely extremely close the two nations

00:58:39.400 that are vying competing with each other who

00:58:41.420 will be the first to achieve nuclear weapons

00:58:43.060 is iraq and iran and iran by the way is also

00:58:47.140 outpacing iraq in the development of ballistic

00:58:50.220 missile systems they're very close they're six

00:58:52.400 months away from being about 90 percent of

00:58:54.560 having the enriched uranium for an atom bomb

00:58:56.700 they're rushing forward with their enrichment program

00:58:59.720 by next spring at most by next summer 2012 with the current enrichment rates

00:59:04.840 they will have finished the medium enrichment and move on to the final

00:59:11.460 stage from there it's only a few months possibly a few weeks before they get

00:59:18.040 enough enriched uranium weeks for the first bomb you don't want this iran to

00:59:23.340 have neither nuclear weapons or the capability to make nuclear weapons to

00:59:28.520 enrich uranium for a nuclear bomb in short order in a few weeks or a few months

00:59:33.000 they could do that unless that's changed with this massive capacity iran could make

00:59:38.200 the fuel for an entire nuclear arsenal and this in a matter of weeks once it

00:59:43.080 makes that decision 2015 by the way that was our montage

00:59:46.980 um i know you didn't do it but debbie murphy's correcting me that we put that one

00:59:50.320 together ourselves but he's been saying the same thing for years tucker trying

00:59:53.900 to bait us into this and now you know thanks to pompeo and

00:59:58.520 levin and guys like that they have a president who's at least

01:00:01.780 considering it i just feel like trump he hates war why would he do this

01:00:07.020 bb also got more hair every year over 30 years which is amazing

01:00:11.340 kind of like defying nature um i'm sorry that was so catty i'm sorry i said

01:00:16.820 that uh but it's true but no it's not and again like bb's doing

01:00:21.360 bb has contempt for the united states and for american leaders he expresses it all

01:00:25.420 the time no wonder because they do his bidding and

01:00:28.940 they swallow his obvious lies and you can't help but have contempt for people

01:00:32.780 you can manipulate and they very much have contempt for us like and they they

01:00:36.040 show it ask anyone any american diplomat other than huckabee who deals

01:00:39.420 with the israelis and they just exude contempt and it's deserved they should

01:00:44.460 have contempt for us because our leaders swallow this stuff and do their bidding

01:00:48.780 unthinkingly and betray the american people in the process so again it's not

01:00:53.140 a matter of being mad at israel much less anti-semitic it's a matter of feeling

01:00:57.440 betrayed by our own leaders in the case of our current president he doesn't want to

01:01:02.720 do this he may not have a choice actually because

01:01:07.080 israel has said if you don't join us we're going to do it anyway move

01:01:11.380 unilaterally possibly with nuclear weapons which they have and they've

01:01:14.480 threatened that before and everyone pretends that's not true it is true they

01:01:17.800 threatened it in 1973 i believe they threatened it subsequently

01:01:20.940 if you don't backstop us if you don't defend us help us send us armaments send

01:01:25.660 your aircraft carriers to the region give us missile defense we'll have no

01:01:29.220 choice but to use nukes against our enemies and nobody wants that because it

01:01:32.880 could set off a third world war a nuclear third world war so that is their

01:01:37.980 trump card they've played it before i believe they are at least implying it

01:01:41.820 now they are playing it in effect now and so it leaves the administration with

01:01:46.120 like how many choices if they say they're going to do it then the best you can do

01:01:51.340 i guess is to try to constrain them by by shaping what they're doing okay we'll

01:01:56.900 participate but we're going to set some of the of the boundaries here i mean i do

01:02:00.280 think that's the thinking that is my impression no one's told me that explicitly but

01:02:04.840 it's pretty obvious but i would just say there is another option that no one in

01:02:08.600 washington ever seems to consider which is constraining our client state and

01:02:12.360 saying look for our sake and by the way also for yours no if you allow people who

01:02:18.600 are dependent on you to treat you like this it doesn't end well if you allow your

01:02:23.300 children to scream the f-word in your face at dinner it's bad for you but it's

01:02:27.240 also bad for them because they're out of control you are not you are not living up to

01:02:32.360 your role as a parent as a guardian as the person in charge as the guy paying for

01:02:36.980 all this as the country of 350 million would naturally relate to a country of

01:02:41.620 9 million it's our fault we've let israel get

01:02:44.360 completely out of control they're they're fighting a seven front war

01:02:47.840 right now who fights a seven front war like if you're fighting a war i heard

01:02:52.660 you discussing it but it's like obviously insane a seven front war we don't want

01:02:57.480 in on that we do not want in on any seven front war you're not managing your life correctly because

01:03:02.560 you talked to mike huckabee about that desire within israel amongst its leaders anyway for

01:03:08.460 hegemony for for growing power within the middle east and he made an admission of course he's our

01:03:14.340 ambassador to israel he made an admission that caused an international scandal all these middle

01:03:20.340 eastern countries responded very angry at what he said here's the clip god gave that land

01:03:25.380 to his people the jews or he didn't you're saying he did what does that mean does israel have the

01:03:33.100 right to that land because you're appealing to genesis yeah you're saying that's the original

01:03:38.620 deed it would be fine if they took it all but i don't think that's what we're talking about here

01:03:45.160 today i think it would be fine if the state of israel took over all i don't want to take it over

01:03:48.820 you're explaining what christian zionism is and your theological beliefs

01:03:52.300 and you think you just said it would be fine with you if the state of israel took all of all of

01:03:58.380 syria all of lebanon they're not trying to take over jordan they're not trying to take over syria

01:04:03.420 they're not trying to take over iraq or anywhere else but they do want to protect their people

01:04:09.480 cnn pointing out that suggesting even nominal support for israeli sovereignty over much of the

01:04:15.580 middle east is an unprecedented departure from american foreign policy uh it also goes well beyond

01:04:21.300 what much of israel's far right is willing to call for publicly nearly every middle eastern

01:04:26.120 country aside from israel condemned huckabee's comments in a joint statement on sunday led by

01:04:32.340 the uae backed by saudi arabia egypt jordan qatar and others denounced his comments as dangerous and

01:04:39.240 inflammatory and even muslim majority countries outside the region like turkey indonesia and pakistan

01:04:44.580 also signed on to the denunciation so what do you did he just have a moment where he let his guard

01:04:51.820 down because he was trying to be so careful in that whole interview tucker what what happened there

01:04:56.040 it went on like this for two and a half hours he should be recalled he doesn't represent the united

01:05:00.140 states this was a true humiliation to our country this is our u.s ambassador i'm the son of an ambassador

01:05:04.940 i sort of know how this works you're supposed to represent the president and the nation and he's

01:05:09.200 representing the country he's living in which is a foreign nation so it's a humiliation it's also sad

01:05:14.000 for him that's not christian theology it's not even close to christian theology he's gonna have to deal

01:05:18.400 with that at some point but as a practical matter he couldn't explain the most obvious questions i asked

01:05:26.600 he said as people often do does israel have a right to this land and i said where does that right

01:05:33.900 come from and do other countries have similar rights and he said two things no no other country

01:05:38.880 has a right no other people has a right to its land only the israelis have a right to their land

01:05:43.260 that's it the irish don't have a right to ireland the english don't have a right to england the french

01:05:47.840 don't have a right to france only the israelis have a right to israel and that right comes from

01:05:51.400 god and so i said being familiar with the verse that's from genesis 15 and here's the promise that

01:05:56.240 god made to abram before he became abraham to abram in genesis 15 and it's the land between the

01:06:02.260 ephrates and that's the whole middle east and that's the basis upon which you're making this

01:06:06.220 claim so you're saying israel has a right to this land this is his own framework not mine i i'm a

01:06:12.980 christian but i believe in also secular diplomacy like these are the boundaries this is what the

01:06:18.460 treaty specifies like i live in reality i don't think that the blueprint for international relations

01:06:23.300 is genesis 15 i just don't think that call me a bad christian i don't think that but he does

01:06:28.620 and so since he does i said okay do they have the right to all of this and he said now famously they

01:06:33.180 can take it he's saying that not simply as some sort of i guess sort of christian preacher i guess

01:06:39.680 he's saying there's the u.s ambassador to what everyone calls our closest ally boy you can't talk that way

01:06:46.680 if you're a diplomat representing my country and my president so i think it's an outrage leaving

01:06:54.480 aside all the other stuff so rather than explain it he just goes on this rant that i should be banned

01:06:59.280 from the white house that i'm a nazi i'm an anti-semit which i'm not as everyone knows me knows

01:07:04.540 i'm not i've said it a thousand times i'm totally opposed to anti-semitism but he he denounces me

01:07:10.300 when you got more critical of israel they started calling you an anti-semit over and over and over and

01:07:14.800 i do think it's a means of undermining your critique of israeli policy of course and getting

01:07:20.380 me killed i get it they're trying to otherize you yeah but i'm not gonna you know i'm too old to put

01:07:25.520 up with this and and i would say just to be blunt people are very intimidated by that they're

01:07:31.060 intimidated because they don't want their reputation destroyed they also want to be killed people sense

01:07:34.320 a physical threat from that kind of language and they should those are fighting words those are words

01:07:38.360 meant to inspire violence israel is an incredibly violent country it brags about its violence many books

01:07:43.280 have been written about its assassination campaigns which have been ongoing since the end of the second

01:07:48.960 world war when they assassinated committed acts of terrorism against the british when they blew up

01:07:53.220 the king david hotel etc etc people know this is a very violent country the most violent country on

01:07:58.680 planet earth and when you criticize it you can get physically hurt or you can get de-platformed

01:08:03.720 debanked lose your job these are not hollow threats and because those threats are real hey random

01:08:09.840 influencers all over the internet by the tweet to try to destroy your reputation and say that you're a

01:08:16.600 neo-nazi anti-semite it's 100 right whether your name is tucker carlson or megan kelly for that matter

01:08:22.380 i mean and but why i never even talk about israel and i've experienced some of this backlash it's

01:08:26.920 ridiculous well you came out and said i love israel i'm a friend of israel i couldn't be more pro-jewish i

01:08:31.900 don't have an anti-semitic bone in my body and i by the way really like israel for the fifth time and

01:08:35.960 they still called you a nazi so why why and i even talked to some of the people doing it i was like

01:08:40.920 megan kelly really if megan kelly's an anti-semite i mean i don't even know where we are here and but

01:08:47.480 now we're seeing why and the reason was to prevent criticism of policy goals israel wants they're saying

01:08:55.080 it out loud they want to use the u.s military and the u.s treasury to sweep aside the last remaining

01:09:00.760 obstacle to regional hegemony in the middle east which is iran and they don't want to be criticized

01:09:06.600 or to be asked like what's the plan here because they don't have an answer and so they have taken

01:09:11.560 offline preemptively critics by being so violent rhetorically and maybe physically that everyone's

01:09:19.640 like i don't want to get involved i don't want to deal with this the cost is too high exactly it that

01:09:23.160 is exactly what they've done and i've just decided at 56 i don't care and i'm just gonna do this because

01:09:29.400 i believe that my motives are pure i'm just an american and i think it's important to say this but

01:09:34.040 there are a lot of other people who feel it who won't say it because it's like i've got kids i

01:09:38.200 don't want to deal with this that is true that's a fact i know i'm sure you get i'm i'm sure you get

01:09:42.840 what i mean i'm only new to this being called an anti-semite game you know on the top of being a

01:09:47.400 racist and a transphobe and a pedophile lover and all the things that you know we've probably both

01:09:52.680 been called over the years now the latest is anti-semite neo-nazi um but i get texts all the time

01:09:59.080 from people who are like i agree with what you're saying i just can't say it publicly i'm sure you get

01:10:03.000 that times 100 like people they are scared they're scared that this very loud lobby of online so-called

01:10:11.480 influencers whatever i mean the vicious online x crowd is going to come for them and i understand

01:10:18.680 it because tucker you have a huge show we have a big show too it's going to be really hard to destroy

01:10:24.680 you and thankfully i think it's going to be really hard to destroy us too and so we're in a little bit

01:10:30.520 more of a steady place than a lot of these people who agree with us but are you know probably wisely

01:10:36.120 not being that out loud about it because that could be their head in a basket next no there's

01:10:42.440 that's right and they go after members of your family they've certainly done that to me very

01:10:46.120 aggressively but really the cost here is not is not that the cost here is hate so you see some of

01:10:54.120 these people and i would say levin is one of them loomer is another who are not making an argument

01:10:59.720 they're trying to evoke hate in you they are trying to make you hate them now why would they do that

01:11:06.760 because that's the nature of this is supernatural just saying this is spiritual battle as well as a

01:11:11.480 temporal battle and and the answer is really simple because hate feeds on evil or evil feeds on hate

01:11:18.120 rather so to the extent that they can inspire hate in their opponents they become stronger it's just a

01:11:24.280 fact and the opposite of course are the people trying to inspire love and bring unity and stop

01:11:30.120 division and make people understand each other and invoke empathy in others like those are signs of god

01:11:35.480 and goodness but signs of evil are always the same chaos and hate and chaos and hate are the things

01:11:41.960 that they're calling for and it's very easy to get sucked into that if you spend your life on the phone

01:11:46.440 reading thing you know reading attacks not just on yourself but on other reading attacks on you

01:11:51.480 was actually driving me completely i never read about myself but i'd read these attacks megan kelly's a

01:11:56.600 nazi or whatever and i'm like i can't believe you're saying that it's so it's such a lie it's irrational

01:12:01.880 irrational by the way is is another feature of their rhetoric it doesn't make sense that's designed

01:12:07.480 to bewilder you and again to inspire hate in you so i really think the trick for the rest of us is

01:12:13.320 don't play along i'm not going to be hateful i don't hate you i'm never going to hate you because

01:12:17.960 i don't want to feed the evil through hate no i consider a massive blessing that all of my best

01:12:23.640 friends actually do happen to be jewish like it's a massive blessing you know because this kind of

01:12:28.680 like non-stop harassment can actually drive you to like drink like what what the hell this is

01:12:33.240 crazy no i totally agree has ever done to either one of us they are way worse way worse and so it's like

01:12:40.200 like you have to be reminded every day that no no no they don't speak for american jewish people

01:12:45.240 well they certainly don't have all sorts of varying views on israel on netanyahu and on war with iran

01:12:53.160 and have no problem with people being critical of those things this is like an online sect that is in

01:13:00.120 large part paid to push an agenda that includes you know cutting people out like you and me like a

01:13:06.120 canary in the coal mines like this will happen to you anybody who comes if i can do this to tucker

01:13:09.840 if i can do this to megan i can do it to all of you and i will do it relentlessly try to ruin you

01:13:14.520 smear you make it so that you can't even go on x totally right i refuse to leave there and they

01:13:19.800 want to give the impression that they completely control the administration that they they alone

01:13:24.680 decide who goes into the white house and i've gone to see donald they're literally pushing for

01:13:28.600 you never to be allowed back into the white house right now i've gone three times in the last month

01:13:33.100 now why have i done that i have no real interest in going to washington i don't live there anymore

01:13:36.780 i'm from there but i don't go there because i don't want to but i have gone first because i

01:13:41.340 really like trump and i've known trump longer than laura loomer's been alive probably and i've always

01:13:45.980 liked him i've always gotten along with him and donald trump ran on the things that i believe okay so

01:13:52.540 and i campaigned for him these people did not i did so i have a relationship with trump that is very

01:13:58.780 affectionate and honest and i'm just going to say that out loud and i thought i just want to make

01:14:04.540 the point that no i like trump and trump certainly doesn't agree with me on everything and certainly

01:14:09.180 doesn't follow my instruction unfortunately on all kinds of things at all but i'm an american who knows

01:14:16.060 him and really likes him and has for many years and i have a right to go there so i'm just going to

01:14:19.900 make that point no you don't control the white house i'm sorry part of this is illusion they're

01:14:25.340 trying they have a tiny minority position in the united states mark levin represents what five

01:14:30.460 ten percent of the american population agrees less agrees with mark levin but they're creating this

01:14:35.740 kind of movie set where they're speaking for the majority they've got an american flag in the

01:14:41.820 background if you're a true patriot then you want to send your son to go die for a foreign country

01:14:47.740 and get poorer in the process like it's all insane but they're creating this illusion that it's real

01:14:53.260 and my job i feel like is to to the extent i can help break that illusion no i'm going to walk into

01:14:58.380 the white house which i've been visiting since i was a child this is my country i'm very familiar

01:15:03.900 with this city i'm very familiar with this building and i'm very familiar with the guy who

01:15:07.340 occupies the oval office right now and i really like him and i just want to say that because that

01:15:12.140 alone might help shatter the illusion that they totally control trump they do not totally control

01:15:17.260 trump that is not true i've talked to trump five times in the past month they do not totally

01:15:22.620 control trump he listens to them he listens to others he listens to bb he also listens to mbs and

01:15:28.700 mbz and he listens to a lot of people they're not totally in control sorry and i just want to remind

01:15:34.140 people of that well i mean the last time i went to the white house i was reminded of the fact that

01:15:39.900 you do need an invitation to get in like you i love that they're making it sound like you just

01:15:44.940 stormed the gates and like i insist on speaking with the president you go to the white house by

01:15:49.820 invitation uh it's very clear that the president does want varying points of view and mark levin i

01:15:56.540 saw him at the white house he was there not long ago he has his say but he doesn't want you to have

01:16:00.940 your say and you represent a very large faction of americans not just republicans there's a very

01:16:06.540 large swath of democrats that doesn't want to see war with iran either and the president should have

01:16:11.420 access to you and your ideas which are very well thought out you spend a lot of time thinking about

01:16:14.780 this and interviewing people on it it just mark levin doesn't it's his ideas or no one's that's

01:16:20.220 really where he is which is just completely bonkers and trump is not standing for it well he's trying to

01:16:25.900 create the illusion that his ideas are the only ideas and that he represents some kind of consensus

01:16:31.580 and i you know i would be willing to bet i represent the views of more americans than mark

01:16:35.420 levin does i'd be willing to bet my life actually but it's not even about that it's

01:16:39.500 mark 70 percent do not want war with iran well mark levin wants you to believe that he controls trump

01:16:44.780 and bb wants you to believe that he controls trump bb runs around the middle east telling

01:16:48.380 all the other leaders you can't talk to trump directly i control trump he's told i mean i know

01:16:52.700 that because i've talked to those leaders who told me that that's a fact okay i control trump that's what

01:16:57.740 bb tells everyone in the region you want to deal with him you deal with me and i'll bring the message

01:17:03.180 mark levin is taking the same message to the american public i control trump he's with trump at some event

01:17:07.900 a few months ago he puts his arm around he's like a little short man puts his arm around the president

01:17:12.700 united states and like pulls him in like that who does that trump doesn't like that who would like

01:17:17.820 that would try to emasculate trump exactly his message is i control trump and as someone who

01:17:24.460 knows trump very well and loves trump and always has loved trump despite getting annoyed at certain

01:17:29.180 points i you know spent a lot of time with trump that offends me you do not control trump he is an

01:17:35.020 autonomous man he's the president united states elected by the nation not by you and your irrelevant

01:17:41.020 little podcast nobody listens to or bb who's not even an american no he represents all americans all

01:17:46.940 americans of all religions stop trying to divide this country stop trying to tell me all muslims are

01:17:51.740 evil how is that better than all jews are evil it's not better it's exactly the same the message that

01:17:57.420 americans yearn for and the only path back to american strength is american unity where citizenship is the

01:18:04.060 thing that brings us together we may disagree on things but we're all in this together it's like a

01:18:08.060 marriage i may be mad at my spouse but we're still married and it's people like mark levin who are

01:18:13.100 trying to divide this country break it into its component parts so they can control it do not allow

01:18:19.100 that and the first step from my perspective is making the point that they do not mark levin and bb and

01:18:26.700 the rest of these ghouls do not control donald trump he is a free man who answers to god and the public

01:18:32.940 and i just wanted to shatter the illusion and i hope that it helped they really hate me for doing it

01:18:37.100 but sorry i'm going back because i love trump and i like going there to see him and it's interesting

01:18:41.820 and he's fun he's funny as hell and i'm an american and i'm going to continue to do that

01:18:46.860 they can't stand your influence which is kind of fun to watch and you know listen there's a reason god

01:18:53.180 put you in this position like built you up to the point where you could take on this battle tucker

01:18:57.400 and the slings and arrows coming your way which are substantial i mean truly like we've both been

01:19:02.080 through the cable news gauntlet and it really is a snake pit and and what's happening now on this

01:19:07.340 front these people are way worse than dude that was nothing compared to this media matters ever

01:19:12.880 through this we used to complain about irena briganti or whatever at fox like oh she's so bad right that

01:19:18.480 was nothing compared to what these people are like yeah whoa but last i checked i you know we look at

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01:19:43.680 sometimes what one of those other left-wingers will get in front of us but it's we're doing great

01:19:47.900 so it's not working is my point and that drives them even more crazy so just speaking truth that's

01:19:54.000 that's what gets you there amen i love talking to you my friend let's do it again soon you're the

01:19:57.900 best megan thank you very much lots of love you as well it's so good to talk to i just feel like

01:20:05.460 what's happening to tucker is unfair and um you know i hate the word unfair it's like not a healthy

01:20:11.420 word when you spend too much time thinking about how your life is unfair you become bitter but i will

01:20:17.140 just say for as a factual matter what's happening to him is unfair if you listen to tucker's show and i do

01:20:21.000 listen to his show he is very critical of israel he does not like how they try to exercise control

01:20:24.840 over us and to pull us into wars and that drives a certain segment crazy but he is not somebody out

01:20:30.180 there criticizing jews okay that's what the left not all the left just the crazy you know like and

01:20:36.860 it's not the light it's not just this is the right mark levin is on the right but it's the sort

01:20:40.320 of the very very ardently pro-israel crowd would have you believe he's he's got a problem with jews

01:20:44.960 and he doesn't he just doesn't there's just no evidence of that and there's zero evidence when it

01:20:51.180 comes to me like it's my friendship with tucker that's gotten me canceled by some segments and had

01:20:55.800 some people saying like i'm an anti-semit including mark levin calling me a neo-nazi it's ridiculous

01:21:00.040 in any event i hate talking about it makes you not want to talk about israel at all because it's like

01:21:04.360 there's no there's no upside you know this fucking crazed lunatic online crowd will come for you

01:21:09.820 because that's all they care about they don't give a shit about the united states they are israel

01:21:14.940 first so it's like you don't want to touch it like i don't want to deal with these absolute vile

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01:26:45.460 turning now to some other headlines mayor zoran mamdani is back at the white house

01:26:54.400 as we learn more about the assault on nypd officers in his city you know by so-called kids

01:27:00.560 and another olympic men's hockey team member is getting grilled by the absolute worst woke sports

01:27:08.380 writers of america joining me now to break it all down is independent journalist evita duffy alfonso

01:27:13.740 and podcaster uh amala epinobi host of the amala epinobi podcast evita amala welcome back great to have

01:27:20.720 you thanks for having us okay let's start with um brady kachuk who is american but plays up in

01:27:27.400 canada and just got it cross-examined by some woke canadian female sportscaster i heard kk talking about

01:27:34.160 you abby murphy but you understand how they could feel pretty put down by that moment i mean i yeah i

01:27:40.660 mean i i get it i think um yeah i mean i don't really of course we're i have no really other comments

01:27:47.380 other than you know for the things that we can control and that was you know we supported them

01:27:51.780 they support us can't control about you know what other people say by far the best team um in that

01:27:57.680 tournament it was just fun um hanging out with them after you know picking their brains they're

01:28:01.980 they're picking our brains and um it was just fun to be around them why would you laugh when they

01:28:06.500 got invited i mean i i i don't really have an answer honestly um it was just a whirlwind of a moment

01:28:15.000 that like you can't really control what somebody says and and um it just i guess caught off guard

01:28:23.800 a little bit but uh i know you're talking to the president i am so sick of this shit um a lot this

01:28:31.140 is stomach turning when will it end oh my gosh who knows i'm so tired of the pc police but i think

01:28:36.420 what happens here is they represent the worst nightmare for the left here like a group of white

01:28:41.120 men who are triumphant on behalf of the u.s are being called by donald trump it was a recipe for

01:28:46.860 disaster from the start here and i think we gotta talk about the joke that donald trump made about

01:28:52.200 the women's team and use it to talk about the accomplishment of the men's team here without

01:28:57.780 setting aside that the women did really great at the olympics these men have been like in a 40 year

01:29:03.540 metal drought when it comes to hockey 46 years in fact and they broke that the men's team gets more

01:29:09.300 viewers they have more supporters this should be an amazing time to unite as americans and just

01:29:14.500 celebrate something that was awesome and of course they're gonna laugh they're in a high they're in a

01:29:19.280 moment where they've accomplished something really great and for their country and we should be able

01:29:23.760 to set aside a little joke that may or may not have been in poor taste and allow them to celebrate this

01:29:29.000 moment it's ridiculous here's the joke again for people who haven't heard it trump with the guys in the

01:29:35.020 locker room post-win what would really be cool and we'll do the white house the next day we'll just

01:29:39.840 have some fun we have medals for you guys and we have to i must tell you we're gonna have to bring

01:29:44.860 the woman's team you do know that i do believe i probably would be impeached okay

01:29:54.060 a lot of the guys said amazing said two for two two for two evita they had no problem with it and

01:30:02.420 and then he followed up with or i'd be impeached and they gave him some polite chuckles and for this

01:30:06.700 the media is ruining both the men's and the women's celebration of their gold medals i mean a lot of the

01:30:12.220 men in that room seem to be celebrating the women's victory as well like the the assumption that it's

01:30:17.600 it's it's negative and sexist is is of course intentional because they want to make everything

01:30:22.880 as amala said a victory for white men somehow a negative awful thing um and i'd like to ask just every

01:30:29.420 single person who's offended by this all the journalists all the the female athletes who are

01:30:35.160 left-wing do you guys support trans identifying men in women's sports i mean if we can have if you

01:30:41.120 guys can come to the table on that one then we can have a conversation about whether president trump

01:30:44.840 is sexist when he calls the team in the locker room to congratulate them but otherwise i just don't

01:30:49.600 want to have a conversation about it it's kind of ridiculous it's not just that canadian journalist

01:30:54.980 abby whatever her name is the canadian journalists are of course terrible because canada's so woke and

01:31:00.300 annoying um there's a guy named damian cox who writes for the toronto star wrote an op-ed there

01:31:07.660 and um he took issue with one of our players named austin matthews who plays for the toronto maple leafs

01:31:14.120 he's been playing for them for 10 years and he's very very upset that um this guy austin matthews

01:31:20.720 acted happy to win his gold medal even though he plays for a canadian team in the nhl i mean it's

01:31:29.500 ridiculous he's the op-ed is full of a long lecture for austin about how he's got two c's on his jersey

01:31:36.220 one's for canada one's for captain and that clearly he proved by going to the white house so he didn't

01:31:41.820 go to the state union he went to the white house and had the burgers with the president shook his hand

01:31:45.280 that the one c captain means more to him than the other c canada and uh had a lecture for him about

01:31:52.760 how he was allowed to celebrate it was fine for him to go to miami according to this writer but at

01:31:58.020 that point after that was all done he could have said sorry boys but i've got to go back to work

01:32:02.760 he talks about how the maple leafs really needed him and they're in serious danger of missing the

01:32:06.240 playoffs instead the arizona born pivot uh chose to jump on a plane for washington dc to accept an

01:32:12.460 invitation to visit trump he went to a luncheon posed for pictures with trump then skipped the

01:32:18.320 dog and pony state of the union address he says apparently he's blissfully unaware many athletes

01:32:23.860 and teams have declined invitations from the trump administration the entire women's hockey team

01:32:27.460 possibly insulted by the fact that trump made this joke said thanks but no thanks he preferred to

01:32:33.580 exchange his immediate return to the leafs for the opportunity to shake trump's hand when asked about

01:32:39.680 his lack of sensitivity toward canada matthews took the athletes easy way out quote i don't like to get

01:32:46.520 political or get that get into that kind of stuff he said we get it you're a proud american but not a

01:32:53.380 proud torontonian not even verbally supportive of the country that has given you the privilege of

01:32:59.640 living and working here as a non-citizen for a decade he's outraged this guy i can't i'm like

01:33:06.600 like these are for sooner or later our boys are going to have to telling you start telling everyone

01:33:11.260 to fuck off oh yeah i mean at this point and have you seen them play a game of hockey have you seen

01:33:15.760 how rough and masculine that game can be and here we are being offended by people going to visit the

01:33:20.400 president and i think we should look a little bit further into his statement not only did he say

01:33:24.580 i don't like to get political but he sort of alludes to the idea that really anybody would take up

01:33:29.760 this invitation and go to meet the president regardless of who the president is and i think what we're

01:33:34.580 falling for here is people who just like to go after trump they have tds syndrome if this was

01:33:39.960 another president under another administration we wouldn't be hearing about any of this the joke

01:33:44.700 the invitations the state of the union but because it's donald trump it sort of taints everything that

01:33:50.520 happens surrounding our sports surrounding the celebration of the u.s surrounding being a u.s

01:33:55.260 citizen this guy did nothing wrong and obviously so and now you have the american journalist just as

01:34:02.060 bad avida just as bad the new cbs completely revamped now right they're going to be more in

01:34:06.760 fair and balanced now under the new leadership you tell me here's thought 19 on their morning show

01:34:12.200 uh thursday see today cbs morning okay moving on to the members of the u.s hockey team they're

01:34:18.420 talking now about president trump's joke that did not land well for some the men's team visited the

01:34:24.120 white house tuesday after an invite from the president in a phone call to the u.s locker room after

01:34:28.920 sunday's final game the president seemed to put down the u.s women's team which had also won gold

01:34:35.580 all right so the men are taking some heat for laughing along with the president at that uh joke

01:34:41.360 the expense of the women's hockey team jack hughes says people are making something out of nothing

01:34:45.900 and both teams support each other uh the majority of the u.s men's team of course attended the state

01:34:50.320 of the union uh earlier this week the women were invited they declined they're being celebrated

01:34:55.060 why the women are being i could see why they're offended by it oh of course gail king would like

01:35:01.220 you to know they have every right evita you know at one point i so i believe that there's a lot of

01:35:05.620 tds happening right now but i think there's just an overwhelming sense of hatred of america i just saw

01:35:13.180 a gallup poll it's 92 percent of republicans are proud to be american only 38 percent of democrats i mean

01:35:19.400 that that the the disconnect that we have as a country politically it's not just that they don't

01:35:25.380 like this president it seems like they hate our country um and we have it you know from our from

01:35:30.800 outside our country too obviously with with canada and other and other you know foreign entities who

01:35:35.360 don't love america but when you have it in your own house it starts to become kind of pathological

01:35:40.100 you start to realize we have a real sickness and this is coming from all of our institutions this is

01:35:44.300 why the trump administration is constantly trying to create reforms and it's in our education system

01:35:48.700 uh in in corporate media i mean we we it's it's it's become a massive massive cancer in our society

01:35:56.020 yes it's really there's a rot and that's why they see racism in everything they see bigotry in

01:36:02.940 everything just quickly here's representative maxine dexter she's a democrat from oregon on the latest

01:36:08.820 finding of racism where it doesn't exist sat 58 please ask for the science-based regimens not

01:36:18.500 whatever rfk jr is getting kickbacks on or you know whatever whole milk um white supremacy

01:36:25.900 dog whistling that's happening right now um i'm getting a little too political but um

01:36:32.700 um pretty sure she said whole milk is white supremacy ava who knew

01:36:39.620 i i i didn't know i've been drinking whole milk i haven't uh i haven't become a white supremacist

01:36:46.380 yet i guess that's part of the problem it's just so crazy i mean we've heard the left say before

01:36:51.340 that things like working out and going to the gym regularly are uh extensions of white supremacy

01:36:56.980 we saw the smithsonian on time yes being on time saying being polite uh you know believing in any

01:37:03.280 sort of time schedule having a nuclear family these things are white supremacy you could go through a

01:37:08.580 list of just about anything throw it at a leftist and i think they would find some way to make it

01:37:13.000 racist to make it something that is indicative of you being a member of the kkk and they'll ignore

01:37:17.960 the glaring issues that exist in our society our childhood obesity rate the fact that kids are

01:37:22.860 lacking in like vitamins and nutrients that they can get from whole milk can we focus on the issue

01:37:27.400 or do we have to make everything about white supremacy and truly like pay attention we've redone

01:37:33.180 the food pyramid we are not looking at saturated fat the way we used to just do a little reading madam

01:37:37.740 um we've got to talk about zoran mamdani his absurd behavior in response to just a snowball fight

01:37:43.600 it was just a snowball fight in the park by kids which is such a lie there were it was all grown men

01:37:50.640 and some women pelting cops with ice balls with snowballs and with snowballs that had rocks in them

01:37:57.740 too i later found out um and so zoran mamdani refuses to just acknowledge what we all saw with our own

01:38:06.820 eyes and now he's doubling down on it um here's a little bit more well he was pressed on wednesday

01:38:12.080 about like some cops went to the hospital like they were bleeding they had lacerations on their face

01:38:16.880 like you're really dismissing this too too easily and too lightly and here's that and sought 56

01:38:22.220 if the nypd investigates and the da decides it's criminal are you going to seek to intervene

01:38:27.020 i've said that what i saw was a snowball fight it should be treated accordingly it was one that got out

01:38:31.500 of hand but that's what it was so mr mayor are you willing to revise your statement regarding the

01:38:36.960 snowball fight given that this was not exactly a friendly back and forth snowball fight the police

01:38:42.320 that were there were not throwing any snowballs they were getting pelted themselves and number two

01:38:48.460 have you considered or would you consider uh banning these crowdsourcing events because they can

01:38:56.140 and sometimes do get out of hand so i'm not going to be banning snowball fights or organized snowball

01:39:03.340 fights uh i've i've shared my my thoughts with new yorkers he doesn't seem to care what happened to

01:39:12.420 these cops evita well it gives me a lot of ptsd from when i lived in chicago um during blm the summer

01:39:18.820 of rage 2020 and you saw the cops just continuously harassed continuously treated like absolute dirt

01:39:26.900 not supported by mayor lori lightfoot who was in charge at the time and they quit in mass and when

01:39:32.320 they quit in mass the entire city became far less safe it became a hellscape i had classmates of mine

01:39:38.720 at the university of chicago literally die they were shot on public transit uh kids pistol whipped on

01:39:44.900 their way to and from class robbed i mean it was it was horrific so what you're asking for is a deeply

01:39:52.380 unsafe new york city when you demoralize cops in the way mom donnie mom donnie is he's telling them

01:39:58.200 i'm not on your side i don't have your back when he does does nothing as they're being brazenly attacked

01:40:03.680 by radical leftists and i feel like there's something really i think overall demoralizing about a mom

01:40:09.480 donnie new york about a left-wing new york i mean we take down statues of teddy roosevelt we erect

01:40:14.420 12 foot statues of you know overweight black women in time square we had trash on the street everything

01:40:19.820 smells like weed everything smells like urine it feels intentional it feels purposely uh humiliating

01:40:25.280 and demoralizing and here is take a look at the man who just did get arrested for this because the

01:40:30.780 cops are not listening to zoran mamdani they are arresting uh the people who did this and they found

01:40:35.320 this guy uh guzmain kolabali 27 for assault and look at the size of this person this is a grown-ass man

01:40:43.460 this is not a quote kid zoran and somebody ought to throw one of these things at him see how he

01:40:49.200 likes it if he doesn't consider it an assault just kidding they shouldn't do that but i just

01:40:52.440 it's like easy for him to say oh it's just kids throwing snowballs and these guys are in the er

01:40:56.680 getting their wounds treated okay we've got to talk about fresno california which has jumped the shark

01:41:02.560 running for um city council out there someone by the name of renee campos no relation who is a

01:41:14.040 registered sex offender listen to this that's 61 i believe fresno deserves leaders that are honest

01:41:21.020 from the very beginning not the end so going into this i'm putting my life out there i've been giving

01:41:27.440 the chance to rehabilitate through the courts and back into the system let's choose somebody outside

01:41:31.980 the box somebody who knows the system from inside out because me i've experienced the laws that we

01:41:39.980 are trying to reform right now he's outside the box all right amala yeah i think we can go in other

01:41:47.200 directions if we're looking for outside the box city council members i would not uh be voting or

01:41:52.240 supporting in in this direction it's kind of outlandish but we're having a lot of uh conversations

01:41:57.440 right now about maps minor attracted persons and calling things like pedophilia disorder rather than

01:42:04.100 a crime so i'm not at all surprised that a place like fresno california would have an individual like

01:42:08.960 this trying to vie for a position in city council at the very least i guess at least they're being open

01:42:16.060 about their registry on the sex offender list so that we can avoid i mean he he he was charged with

01:42:23.160 being in possession of child sex abuse material in 2018 evita i mean this is a few years ago he was

01:42:30.040 looking at child pornography well i i did this is i mean the left does this all the time i there was a

01:42:34.900 while ago that vice did a documentary on sex offenders and they one the journalist who actually was

01:42:41.200 trying to say oh look they're not so bad they're just minor attracted persons she ended up actually

01:42:45.620 being harassed by one of these sex offenders who sent her a nude photo so i mean this is just this

01:42:51.660 is this is classic left-wing behavior and it's very dumb and i hope that they elect him because then

01:42:56.000 they'll see what it's like oh my god i'd like to think that even in the people's republic of california

01:43:01.860 they're going to say no to a registered sex offender um i mean good luck like you elevate somebody like

01:43:07.540 this and then before you know it they use that position because let's face it you don't outgrow

01:43:11.080 your desire to look at child sex abuse material so that guy's there's zero point in putting him

01:43:17.340 in a position of power i think it's a him to be honest not entirely clear couldn't say amla evita

01:43:22.040 thank you both so much great to see you and we'll we'll see you again soon i hope thanks thanks all

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The Megyn Kelly Show - February 26, 2026

Tucker Carlson on Epstein, Iran, and the Gender Divide, Plus Woke Journalists Badger Team USA, with Evita Duffy-Alfonso and Amala Ekpunobi ｜ Ep. 1261

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