The Megyn Kelly Show - Tucker Carlson on Kamala's Skill-Free Rise to Power, Trump's Brave Pick of JD Vance, and the Butler Memory Hole ｜ Ep. 918

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00:00:15.540 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:27.100 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:28.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:30.220 2024, it's been a truly insane election year.

00:00:33.600 Two different Democratic candidates.

00:00:35.100 A Kennedy is supporting the GOP.

00:00:37.040 The Cheneys are supporting the Dems.

00:00:39.020 Two different assassination attempts, at least.

00:00:42.320 And there happens to be a new documentary that tracks it all.

00:00:46.620 And I do mean up close and personally.

00:00:49.820 By following President Donald Trump and providing access, few have ever gotten.

00:00:54.480 I mean, you will see him like you have not seen him before.

00:00:56.820 It is called The Art of the Surge, and it's available for subscribers on tuckercarlson.com.

00:01:03.880 Here is some of the trailer.

00:01:05.460 So we're standing exactly in the path where the president will walk out to the crowd about an hour from now.

00:01:13.340 And there's a malfunction with the flag.

00:01:16.520 Be careful.

00:01:17.320 The hood's rocking with Trump.

00:01:22.120 Trump's definitely got the black vote back. 0.79

00:01:23.740 Making America great again.

00:01:26.140 Donald Trump is the boss.

00:01:27.500 And when you think you're in control, Donald Trump does something that says you're not in control.

00:01:31.840 You think Biden can do this?

00:01:33.100 I don't think so.

00:01:34.000 Don't move on.

00:01:34.740 What is the campaign specifically doing differently now?

00:01:37.200 If there's one word to describe it, it's just execution.

00:01:40.300 Biden's just taken the stage of the debate.

00:01:49.860 The standard is not, are you able to stand up for 90 minutes?

00:01:52.960 I can't even understand him right now.

00:01:55.920 Trump is like riding a great racehorse, right?

00:01:58.240 You put the blinders on, you guide him into the corners, and you let him run.

00:02:02.040 Look at how many people are showing up for a rally.

00:02:04.100 Everyone, please, just make sure you're ready.

00:02:07.720 30 seconds.

00:02:09.740 Let's go.

00:02:12.280 The president's been shot.

00:02:21.800 I repeat, the president's been shot.

00:02:30.100 Oh, my gosh.

00:02:31.180 I've got chills.

00:02:31.800 Joining me now, my pal Tucker Carlson, host of The Tucker Carlson Show, which you can find on all platforms.

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00:03:38.600 Tucker, great to see you.

00:03:39.700 Well done.

00:03:40.120 Thank you, Megan.

00:03:42.780 I mean, there's so much, and thanks for having me, there's so much pageantry with Trump.

00:03:47.380 I mean, not just the public events, but like at dinner, meetings, I mean, everything is a show.

00:03:53.460 And I guess you either appreciate it or you don't, but those of us who do appreciate it, just almost like on an aesthetic level, it's cool to see it.

00:04:03.000 I mean, it doesn't stop.

00:04:04.400 I mean, obviously you've spent a lot of time with Trump and you know this, but it's kind of the same backstage as it is on stage.

00:04:11.740 And to see it all laid out like this, you know, over a period of months is pretty cool, I think.

00:04:17.640 Well, it's amazing because you and your Fox EP, Justin Wells, embark on this project in June, and you're not thinking you're going to have the kind of summer that we had.

00:04:27.960 I mean, how could you possibly have been envisioning anything that happened?

00:04:33.860 And yet, you know, you're up close and personal for the most bizarre, compelling, interesting, consequential election in U.S. history, at least one of them, modern history.

00:04:47.260 I think it's fair to say, especially that debate in which Biden collapsed and the assassination attempt, the one where he was shot.

00:04:56.560 I mean, you and Justin had to be behind the scenes like, oh, my God.

00:05:00.260 Oh, well, it was unbelievable.

00:05:02.240 I mean, I was not there for the debate.

00:05:05.660 I mean, I really wasn't there for much of it at all.

00:05:07.980 But the camera was there.

00:05:10.600 My personal favorite so far.

00:05:13.880 So we've got three episodes up.

00:05:16.640 I think I've got four and five are coming and it goes to six.

00:05:19.900 But is the reaction shot backstage during the debate of all the, you know, VIPs who've been accompanying Trump, members of Congress, watching Joe Biden melt down on stage.

00:05:32.300 And these are people who do politics for a living and know Biden personally and are sort of like have what they think is going to happen in mind.

00:05:40.080 And what actually happens is so shocking to them that it's truly unscripted.

00:05:45.080 Like you just can't they're sitting there with just jaws agape.

00:05:48.120 They can't believe this guy is melting down the way that he is.

00:05:50.940 Yeah, it's really an amazing.

00:05:52.920 We have the whole thing.

00:05:53.980 I mean, you're open.

00:05:55.220 Let's watch a little bit of that because it is it is amazing.

00:05:58.180 Like you when I watched it and I had the same reaction.

00:06:02.220 Of course, we were all having the same reaction in our homes.

00:06:04.480 But to see Team Trump and others backstage watching it as we did is something else entirely.

00:06:10.540 Watch it.

00:06:10.860 Here it is.

00:06:12.220 I does not sound good right now.

00:06:13.960 So we'll see.

00:06:17.380 To $15 for a insulin shot as opposed to $400.

00:06:22.540 No senior has to pay more than $200 for any drug, all the drugs they can include beginning next year.

00:06:29.900 His debt will be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do.

00:06:33.700 Child care, older care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system,

00:06:39.060 making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID.

00:06:48.040 Excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with, look, if we finally beat Medicare.

00:07:00.460 Thank you, President Biden.

00:07:01.780 President Trump.

00:07:03.760 Oh, M.G.

00:07:07.680 It's so amazing.

00:07:08.880 If you saw that live, as everyone did, you think, well, is it just me or was that the most profound failure ever captured on film?

00:07:18.460 And then you watch people who do this for a living.

00:07:20.180 Lindsey Graham, Tim Scott, J.D. Vance, Laura Trump.

00:07:23.840 Ben Carson.

00:07:25.840 Ben Carson?

00:07:26.900 He stops in mid-bite looking at this?

00:07:30.600 I just love that.

00:07:32.240 And there's a lot like that. 0.92

00:07:33.120 She also speaks for us all when she goes, she mouths, WTF.

00:07:37.940 That's what we all felt.

00:07:40.480 Oh, she, I like her.

00:07:42.720 But as you said in your open so nicely, it was.

00:07:46.240 But you said this is a year where a Kennedy has endorsed Trump and Dick Cheney has endorsed Kamala Harris.

00:07:52.840 I mean, that just kind of sums it up right there.

00:07:54.800 Not just the obvious drama, the meltdown, Biden dropping out, the assassination attempts on Donald Trump, but just the total realignment in the most obvious, undeniable way of American politics where Bobby Kennedy is on the campaign trail for Donald Trump and Dick Cheney and his daughter are working for Kamala Harris.

00:08:13.200 I mean, like who who could have predicted that?

00:08:15.180 Nobody.

00:08:15.420 I know.

00:08:16.540 Right.

00:08:16.940 And I mean, what better recommendation for Trump and not for Kamala than to see the see the world divide in that way?

00:08:23.800 I mean, it's it is kind of amazing, is it not, Tucker, to see them, the Cheneys now be lionized by this Democrat Party?

00:08:30.520 And I mean, it's so dishonest.

00:08:33.260 At least she was asked.

00:08:36.060 Kamala was asked.

00:08:36.960 Who was it?

00:08:37.360 Who was it was asked about the Liz Cheney endorsement on Meet the Press?

00:08:43.080 It was it was who was it?

00:08:44.200 Who was it, Steve, who was asked about it?

00:08:46.180 The Liz Cheney endorsement.

00:08:47.580 It was Kristen Welker.

00:08:49.500 But in any event, it's like, oh, she was asking Liz Cheney.

00:08:52.440 That's what it was.

00:08:52.920 She had Liz Cheney just the other day. 1.00

00:08:54.640 And she's like, you know, you said a lot of terrible things about Kamala just a few short years ago.

00:09:01.020 You know, people might be left with the impression you're kind of insincere.

00:09:07.120 That's not really going to be the takeaway.

00:09:08.580 But does the Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney combo change the calculation here?

00:09:11.920 Well, I mean, it just puts it into stark relief, as you just said correctly, I think.

00:09:17.260 And it also raises questions for me personally as someone who defended Dick Cheney for, I don't know, like 25 years in public and always got the sense maybe there's something wrong with Dick Cheney.

00:09:26.600 And why would you be so enthusiastic about shooting down a civilian airliner as he famously was on 9-11?

00:09:32.140 And, you know, just the cost of these wars in human life was so high.

00:09:36.580 Doesn't that bother you?

00:09:37.480 And I kind of pushed all those thoughts into the back of my mind and didn't deal with them.

00:09:42.300 But they always did bother me on a gut level.

00:09:44.080 And I asked the other night, I was with Russell Brand, who I love.

00:09:47.540 And I said to him, you know, you kind of called this early.

00:09:51.360 What about Dick Cheney made you uncomfortable 20 years ago that I missed?

00:09:55.300 And he just said, he just seemed a bit evil.

00:09:58.560 You know, that's kind of true.

00:10:00.760 And I just felt shame for ignoring that.

00:10:03.280 I mean, it's just it's not it's like Mr. Burns from The Simpsons with Dick Cheney.

00:10:07.060 It's like not a tough call.

00:10:08.880 You don't need to be super spiritually aware to get an evil whiff off Dick Cheney.

00:10:13.100 And I just refused to see it.

00:10:15.160 And so I just want to apologize for that.

00:10:18.420 Well, I mean, I don't know how well this is going to do for her.

00:10:21.880 She's got some nine percent reportedly of Republican vote, like some sort of share of Republicans is going to go for Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:10:30.940 But are these real Republicans?

00:10:32.600 And these are probably the Nicole Wallace's, the Joe Scarborough's, you know, of the world.

00:10:37.620 These are not actual Republicans.

00:10:39.360 Like I predict and I think you'll agree with me, notwithstanding the number of Republicans, even that work for Trump, that are now endorsing Kamala, the Republican Party will come home to Trump just as it did in 16 and 20.

00:10:51.040 I think I think that's right.

00:10:52.400 I think I mean, certainly Republican voters are four square behind Trump.

00:10:57.100 And by the way, they know Trump and they know all of the shortcomings very, very well.

00:11:01.340 They know them really well in the same way you do of like, you know, your favorite cousin.

00:11:05.100 It doesn't mean you don't love your cousin, but you know exactly your cousin is.

00:11:07.620 They know who Trump is.

00:11:08.260 They're not deluded.

00:11:08.840 They don't think he's God, but he they do think he's the one politician doesn't hate them.

00:11:14.020 And that's the basis of of their requited love for him.

00:11:17.680 But what's interesting is that I think a huge percentage of the Republican leadership in Washington is going to vote for Kamala Harris, whether they say so or not.

00:11:25.280 Mitch McConnell is voting Kamala Harris.

00:11:26.900 I mean, there's just no question about it.

00:11:28.260 The Bushes are voting Kamala Harris.

00:11:30.400 Oh, for sure.

00:11:31.560 Are you kidding?

00:11:32.540 Absolutely.

00:11:33.360 Well, I guess I bet money on it.

00:11:35.080 But yeah.

00:11:36.220 But I just think there are a lot of Republican senators, for example, whose beliefs are much closer to Kamala Harris's than they are to Trump's or to the Republican electorate.

00:11:47.340 Well, that that's what Liz Cheney was saying when trying to justify herself. 1.00

00:11:50.640 I'll play the soundbite when she went on with Kristen Walker, 73.

00:11:54.200 Back in 2020, you said Kamala Harris, when she was announced as President Biden's running mate, you called her a radical liberal whose policies, quote, are completely inconsistent with what most Americans believe in and stand for. 0.84

00:12:08.040 I know that you don't view this as a policy election.

00:12:11.040 You've been very clear about that.

00:12:12.700 But are there policies that Kamala Harris supports that you also back?

00:12:17.320 Absolutely.

00:12:18.960 And I would say the extent to which, you know, she and I certainly have had our disagreements.

00:12:24.660 But when you look at the whole range of issues, for example, with respect to support for Ukraine, with respect to the fact that, you know, she is saying that the United States has to lead in the world.

00:12:35.800 Donald Trump is embracing tyrants.

00:12:38.040 Do you regret any of the language that you used to describe Harris and Biden at the time they would dismantle our freedom, destroy our history, the type of language you're using now about Donald Trump?

00:12:46.180 Look, I think certainly those were harsh things that I said.

00:12:50.520 I think that they reflect absolutely that we had a policy disagreement on a series of issues.

00:12:55.580 But I also think that's why it's so important for people to focus on the fact that I am supporting her now.

00:13:04.000 You nailed it.

00:13:06.560 Yeah, I mean, she doesn't care about any of that stuff.

00:13:08.580 I mean, she's her behavior on the on the January 6th commission shows she doesn't care about your freedoms. 1.00

00:13:14.400 Obviously, she put innocent people allowed them to go to jail and suppressed information that was exculpatory. 1.00

00:13:20.080 That's she did that. 1.00

00:13:21.080 So she's on Kamala Harris's page with that.

00:13:24.440 The truth is, it's about control.

00:13:25.920 That's it.

00:13:26.440 Kamala Harris is a blank slate.

00:13:28.240 She doesn't care.

00:13:28.720 She's policy agnostic.

00:13:29.840 She's what she needs to be.

00:13:31.120 I don't think she's a radical anything other than an opportunist.

00:13:34.880 And everyone in Washington senses that.

00:13:37.080 Can you control her?

00:13:37.920 Of course. 0.99

00:13:38.400 Her boss, senile. 0.89

00:13:39.960 Can you control him? 0.96

00:13:40.760 Yes.

00:13:41.680 Donald Trump was not some right winger, by the way, at all.

00:13:44.280 He's on the moderate side of the spectrum on policy is not controllable by anybody.

00:13:49.880 And that's either good or bad, you know, depending on your perspective.

00:13:52.960 But if you seek to control politicians, which is what Liz Cheney's business really is and Dick Cheney's business really is, it's not going to work with Trump.

00:14:01.640 So that's why they hate him.

00:14:03.160 That's why they embrace Kamala.

00:14:04.360 That's why they embraced her boss, Joe Biden, because they're weak.

00:14:08.800 That's the point. 0.53

00:14:09.560 They're weak.

00:14:10.200 And it's not about an individual issue.

00:14:11.960 Kamala Harris will be whatever she needs to be. 0.90

00:14:14.200 I'm not attacking her, by the way.

00:14:15.880 It's a pretty good strategy if, you know, for advancement of for for a low skilled person to rise to where she has not easy. 0.89

00:14:22.480 And she's done it on the basis of moral flexibility.

00:14:25.480 And and Trump just doesn't have that like Trump will make an agreement.

00:14:29.040 You know, you can blackmail Trump.

00:14:30.520 You know, you've got to do this.

00:14:31.880 But there's no guarantee that he won't just blurt it out in the I mean, I remember in the debates in 2016, he gets attacked for knowing Hillary Clinton.

00:14:41.720 He's like, yeah, well, they actually paid me money to go to her wedding.

00:14:44.320 So I went.

00:14:45.040 I mean, he just sort of said, you know, he breaks the fourth wall.

00:14:47.880 He says the quiet part out loud.

00:14:49.520 That is such a threat to a corrupt system.

00:14:52.060 That's the that's the point.

00:14:53.380 It's not that he's going to bring fascism or destroy democracy.

00:14:56.460 It's the opposite.

00:14:57.840 He might accidentally tell the truth and they have to stop him before he does.

00:15:03.740 Well, you didn't pay taxes.

00:15:04.860 That makes me smart.

00:15:06.220 I'm smart.

00:15:07.480 That was smart.

00:15:09.040 It wound up in a Dave Chappelle skit honoring him for being, you know, this guy who actually did resonate with people sitting at home, like finally somebody who's who tells it like it is.

00:15:20.060 Well, exactly.

00:15:20.840 And if you put enough pressure on Trump, he might intentionally or not just say so like, you know, well, Donald Trump, you changed your view on this.

00:15:28.600 Why?

00:15:28.900 Well, because they threatened me.

00:15:30.500 You might say that, you know, Kamala Harris will go to her grave with all of that stuff hidden.

00:15:37.980 And so that's why they like Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:15:41.360 And Liz Cheney is telling the truth when she says it's not about policy.

00:15:44.520 It's not about an individual policy.

00:15:46.240 It's about all policies.

00:15:47.120 And of course, what the Cheneys and permanent Washington really cares about is war because it's the ultimate exercise of power, killing people.

00:15:53.660 And it's where the money is.

00:15:54.400 The only thing she mentioned.

00:15:56.660 It's the only thing she cares about.

00:15:58.180 Trust me.

00:15:58.700 I know her well.

00:15:59.760 And that's the only thing she cares about.

00:16:01.860 And back when she and her dad and the many like them ran the Republican Party, you know, they dressed it up as we're strong, you know, on defense or we're keeping the world safe.

00:16:12.660 Well, of course, they've made the world much more chaotic and infinitely more dangerous.

00:16:15.520 We're in the brink of nuclear war right now because of their policies and their, quote, leadership.

00:16:20.640 So it doesn't make anybody safe.

00:16:22.380 It imperils everybody, including our children.

00:16:25.060 And the gig is up for them.

00:16:27.600 They can no longer pretend.

00:16:28.740 People on both sides are sick of pointless forever wars.

00:16:33.480 I mean, I do think that's really obvious.

00:16:35.200 People are sick of it.

00:16:36.860 And she's mad that they're sick of it. 0.99

00:16:39.180 But, you know, they didn't work.

00:16:41.160 But this is such an interesting way.

00:16:42.060 And I always learn something talking to you, Tucker. 1.00

00:16:43.900 You always give me a different way of thinking about issues because I've been saying she's a moron, 1.00

00:16:49.540 which I do think she's a moron. 1.00

00:16:51.020 I stand by that. 1.00

00:16:51.880 But when I watch these completely empty soundbites, I think it's because she's dumb and she doesn't know anything and she's incapable of doing anything more. 0.98

00:17:00.760 And your words, blank slate, kind of come at it from a different way that that she's intentionally being vague all the time because that's what makes her saleable to her party bosses who have chosen her and who are trying to elevate her to advance their own agenda. 0.97

00:17:17.340 In the case of Cheney and so many others, it is wars, the military-industrial complex.

00:17:22.820 And that is a different way of looking at it.

00:17:24.660 I'll play the soundbite.

00:17:25.360 We played it a couple days ago.

00:17:26.440 But this one just is so perfect.

00:17:27.840 It just encapsulates everything that I can't stand about how she answers questions. 0.99

00:17:33.720 I'm going to look at this with a new pair of eyes, just blank slate as opposed to just utter moron. 1.00

00:17:38.640 Let's watch it. 1.00

00:17:40.180 How do we get here?

00:17:41.500 You smell good.

00:17:42.140 You look good.

00:17:42.780 Oh, that's better than smelling bad.

00:17:44.520 Thank you.

00:17:46.480 I know.

00:17:47.400 You smell great.

00:17:48.080 You look great.

00:17:48.980 I appreciate you.

00:17:49.960 Do you feel great?

00:17:50.760 It has been a whirlwind for you.

00:17:52.180 I feel good.

00:17:53.060 You know, listen, we have 23 days as of today until the election.

00:17:57.280 And I am in these streets traveling and talking with folks.

00:18:02.100 And I am out here doing the work of earning, then, the vote so that we can get to the job

00:18:07.860 of continuing to move forward.

00:18:10.940 And for me, that is about pushing for an opportunity economy, which is about tapping into the ambitions

00:18:18.120 and the aspirations of votes.

00:18:19.640 I know the ambitions, the aspirations, the incredible work ethic that exists in our community.

00:18:28.980 I know the dreams that exist.

00:18:31.620 But not everyone has started out on the same base in terms of being able to realize their

00:18:39.280 goals and their dreams.

00:18:40.440 So my plan is to build what I call an opportunity economy, which means giving people an opportunity

00:18:48.600 to actually achieve those ambitions, those goals, and those dreams.

00:18:54.700 She said nothing.

00:18:57.360 Yeah.

00:18:58.200 Which isn't easy, by the way.

00:18:59.620 It's not easy to say nothing.

00:19:01.600 It's not easy to be Kamala Harris.

00:19:03.520 It's not easy.

00:19:04.220 Everything about her from her first name, which she's pronounced various different ways,

00:19:07.580 she doesn't pronounce her own first name consistently.

00:19:10.740 To her accent, which is, of course, an affect.

00:19:13.700 She grew up in Canada.

00:19:15.100 She's Canadian.

00:19:16.120 She went to high school in Montreal, Canada.

00:19:18.380 She didn't grow up in Baltimore.

00:19:19.880 That's a completely fake accent, daughter of college professors. 0.83

00:19:22.780 To everything that she believes, which is essentially nothing.

00:19:26.500 And to play that role over so many years with nothing inside is not an easy thing. 0.98

00:19:33.720 I don't think she's stupid. 0.75

00:19:34.740 I think there are different kinds of intelligence. 0.99

00:19:36.340 I think she's a high feral intelligence, an animal intelligence,

00:19:40.260 which is a really useful thing.

00:19:41.940 I wish I had more of it myself.

00:19:43.260 I mean that.

00:19:45.140 But she's just pure ambition, and she'll be what she needs to be.

00:19:49.320 But when I watch that, every time I watch her, I get the same vibe, which is fear.

00:19:53.300 She's afraid.

00:19:54.540 And of course, she's afraid, because she doesn't believe anything.

00:19:56.440 When you know what you believe, and if you have limits to what you'll say,

00:20:00.640 to how dishonest you'll be, there's a kind of freedom in that.

00:20:03.340 I'm not going to do that, period.

00:20:04.860 I've already decided.

00:20:06.040 All of us kind of go through this.

00:20:07.760 But there's the rare person, not so rare in politics, unfortunately, she's one of them, 0.99

00:20:11.460 who doesn't have any limits at all.

00:20:13.180 Because whatever it takes, whatever I have to say, whatever I have to pretend to believe, I will.

00:20:18.100 And again, that's a skill.

00:20:20.240 And that's how she leveraged a career with no achievement at all, no obvious skills of any kind, 0.93

00:20:25.860 to the place where she could be president of the United States.

00:20:27.820 Like, try that at home.

00:20:29.200 That's hard.

00:20:30.340 So I do give her credit for that.

00:20:32.300 I think it's been a really difficult, super unpleasant, joyless journey with no real personal relationships.

00:20:39.740 A husband who she kisses with a mask on.

00:20:41.800 Like, imagine living that life.

00:20:43.740 Seriously.

00:20:44.800 I can't imagine anything worse than that.

00:20:47.080 That's the least of the problems with the husband. 0.65

00:20:49.020 I mean, the husband's got serious issues, which honestly, it's driving me insane.

00:20:52.500 So can I ask you what you think of that?

00:20:55.360 Yeah, I believe every word of it.

00:20:56.820 The MHOF stories?

00:20:58.040 Yeah, I do too.

00:20:58.620 Yeah, so first of all, we know that he cheated on the first wife and impregnated the child's nanny.

00:21:03.780 So it's bad enough to cheat on your wife.

00:21:05.640 Then you cheat with the child's nanny.

00:21:07.840 So you're jeopardizing an important relationship in the child's life, right?

00:21:11.640 Like, presumably, the nanny matters to the child, and you're about to blow up your marriage,

00:21:15.960 so some stability with the caretaker would be nice. 0.88

00:21:18.880 But you're screwing that up too, because you're screwing the nanny. 1.00

00:21:22.420 Then he impregnates her.

00:21:24.120 Then on top of that, the Daily Mail, all of which he's admitted, he's admitted that.

00:21:28.620 Then on top of that, the Daily Mail comes out with a second report saying he bragged to his next girlfriend that he made the nanny sign an NDA and paid her $80,000 to stay quiet.

00:21:39.500 But because, and more at least in connection with this, she lost the baby under circumstances that she blames him for.

00:21:49.000 We don't know exactly what happened, but the Daily Mail reports that there was an emergency at the nanny's home,

00:21:54.300 that EMTs were called, and that it was a serious emergency, and after this, she blames him for losing the baby that he impregnated her with.

00:22:02.900 This is all behind the back of the first wife. 1.00

00:22:04.920 So then, in that second report, the Daily Mail reveals, this he hasn't admitted to, that he found a girlfriend in 2012, 18 months before he met Kamala.

00:22:16.940 And they were at Cannes, they were in Cannes, France at some red carpet, black tie event, and for AIDS, to raise money for AIDS research.

00:22:27.340 She's a gunner, this woman. 0.96

00:22:29.660 She's a professional, she's a lawyer, she's beautiful.

00:22:33.120 They were dating for a short time, she brings him out there.

00:22:35.960 And that he was so angry, she touched the shoulder of a valet to get his attention, so she could get a taxi.

00:22:42.440 He open hand slapped her so hard across the face, she spun.

00:22:47.100 She stumbled, she got into a taxi, because now she's scared.

00:22:50.580 He forced his way in.

00:22:52.640 She was so scared of the beating continuing, she called her male friend back in New York

00:22:57.020 to get him on the phone so that he couldn't do anything to her now.

00:23:00.140 She's got an ear witness.

00:23:01.840 That guy spoke to the Daily Mail, as did two of her other friends,

00:23:05.140 at least one of whom was able to give a contemporaneous account of what she was told.

00:23:08.880 The second one came a year later, I think.

00:23:11.340 And this woman broke up with him and provided receipts, obviously, that came from the woman. 0.79

00:23:15.560 How else would the friends have her airline tickets?

00:23:18.560 And that he denies only through a campaign spokesperson in passive terms.

00:23:23.580 So I do, I mean, he's denied it, I believe every word.

00:23:26.200 Because you know what would happen, Tucker, you're a public figure.

00:23:29.200 If somebody came out and said, Tucker Carlson beat the girlfriend he had before he married Susie,

00:23:33.800 you would very easily produce said girlfriend to say, this is a vicious lie.

00:23:39.080 I love Tucker.

00:23:40.200 It ended, but we're friends.

00:23:41.600 Or it ended badly, but he never hit me.

00:23:43.860 Where is she?

00:23:44.860 If it didn't happen, and he's had three interviews so far,

00:23:47.480 including with MSNBC, which is supposed to be a news organization,

00:23:51.380 no one has asked a question about it.

00:23:55.180 How, how, I don't understand that.

00:23:59.700 How can you not ask about that?

00:24:01.200 I mean, it's, I'm not surprised at all, because he's a self-described feminist who's redefining masculinity. 0.97

00:24:06.500 And people like that always hate women. 1.00

00:24:09.680 It's the beta males you got to watch out for.

00:24:11.560 They will mistreat you.

00:24:12.760 They have no self-respect.

00:24:14.240 And anyone who doesn't respect himself is definitely not going to respect you.

00:24:16.920 That's for certain.

00:24:18.340 They always lash out.

00:24:19.380 I'm a man.

00:24:20.840 I've seen this dynamic a lot.

00:24:22.800 It was always, you know, the peace, love, patchouli guys in college who would rough up their girlfriends. 1.00

00:24:28.540 In fact.

00:24:29.340 No, for real.

00:24:30.720 And so that doesn't, it doesn't shock me.

00:24:32.720 What shocks me is that Joe Scarborough could do an interview with him and literally not mention it.

00:24:37.700 But I just think there's no kind of depth to their shame either.

00:24:43.040 Like, these are the same people who told us that Biden was a genius, not senile at all, and that it was a cheap fake, you know, the evidence to the contrary, and that all of us were right-wing extremists for suggesting Biden was senile until the day that they all, as one told us, he was in fact senile and had to step down. 0.71

00:25:00.960 Like, they're exposed liars. 0.93

00:25:03.180 They have no shame. 0.90

00:25:04.460 But it still shocks me.

00:25:06.360 Speaking of no shame, so now Kamala, struggling in the polls mightily, is out there actually trying to make an issue of Trump's medical records. 1.00

00:25:16.100 Suggesting he's old and he hasn't produced all of his medical records, and therefore what do we know what we're getting?

00:25:21.780 You know, do we have somebody who's really together?

00:25:23.420 He doesn't seem okay.

00:25:24.380 I, of all people, Tucker, I mean, the nerve, it's flabbergasting.

00:25:32.680 But it's always the way.

00:25:33.980 They always accuse you of exactly what they're doing.

00:25:35.920 I mean, they literally will build wind farms to kill endangered species, whether in the sea, whale, right whales, or California condors, and then yell at you about how you don't care about the environment.

00:25:48.280 You're not worried enough about carbon dioxide emissions because, you know, you've got a wood stove or a suburban, but they're flying private and lecturing.

00:26:01.100 So this is like the main way they communicate, which is by transferring their guilt onto the innocent.

00:26:07.320 But it's every time I agree with you, it shocks me.

00:26:09.900 Anyway, on that front, I don't know if you saw the other day, Chris Rufo dropped a bomb on the Kamala Harris campaign because he found she plagiarized multiple times in her book that she released years ago to try to seem like a tough-on-crime prosecutor.

00:26:26.140 And surprise, surprise, she and her ghostwriter, and we don't know who wrote what, but ultimately it's her book.

00:26:30.700 It's her name.

00:26:31.360 She promoted it, and she hasn't disavowed it, is repeatedly plagiarizing other people's work without attribution.

00:26:38.080 And so what do we get?

00:26:39.420 Do we get the rest of the media saying, well, this is serious, and we have to apply the same standard to her as we do across the board?

00:26:45.000 Didn't they try to have Kellyanne Conway? 0.99

00:26:46.400 Not Kellyanne Conway, Monica Crowley, our friend booted from the Trump administration because they said she plagiarized a couple lines here or there, which she denied. 0.75

00:26:53.600 Okay, with Kamala Harris, totally different story.

00:26:55.800 This is, it's a nothing burger, and the headline truly was like conservative activist seizes on some sort of minor dust-up about her book.

00:27:07.160 It was a way they could say they'd cover it, they'd covered it without actually covering it, and they spend the entire body of the piece trying to minimize the controversy, misrepresent what Rufo actually broke, say he only found a couple of instances, 500 words, where in fact he had found thousands and thousands of words.

00:27:26.840 I mean, you're not surprised, but it's just another example of the double standard.

00:27:30.500 Well, you're the criminal for noticing.

00:27:32.280 How dare you notice what I'm doing? 0.58

00:27:34.440 I mean, it is, it's just, it's just a different level of lying.

00:27:37.800 I mean, we all lie, and I hate lying, and I don't want to lie, but I guess if you caught me doing something super embarrassing, I would lie about it.

00:27:44.860 I wouldn't want to, but I would.

00:27:46.080 But what I wouldn't do is accuse you of doing the thing you caught me doing.

00:27:51.300 I would never do that, because that's, that's completely evil.

00:27:54.860 That's not ordinary lying.

00:27:56.880 That's pathological.

00:27:58.500 Do you know what I mean?

00:27:59.620 Like, you, you know, you catch me beating a woman in the face, like Doug Emhoff, apparently just been caught doing that, assaulting a woman in the face.

00:28:07.060 By the way, who'd hit a woman in the face?

00:28:09.080 I don't even know anyone who would do that.

00:28:10.520 Who hit a woman in the face? Thank you. 1.00

00:28:10.900 Honestly, I mean, I know some pretty sick people.

00:28:14.260 I lived in Washington my whole life.

00:28:15.700 I've been in the media since 1991, and with the exception of a few, Joe Scarborough or what, I mean, you know, but I just don't know anyone who's capable of that.

00:28:24.260 That's a really weird behavior, in my opinion.

00:28:27.000 So, what, what, what is his response to lecture you about how you don't care about women's rights?

00:28:33.660 You don't care about women. 0.99

00:28:34.980 Really?

00:28:35.460 I'm not the one who was, like, busted hitting a woman in the face.

00:28:39.040 It's, like, crazy behavior.

00:28:41.340 Not normal.

00:28:42.720 Yeah, no, it's not normal at all.

00:28:44.020 Well, this is what we're about to elect into our White House, potentially.

00:28:47.720 Although, what do you think?

00:28:48.660 I don't think it's going well.

00:28:49.760 I know you don't, I don't picture you as a day-to-day poll consumer, but it doesn't seem to be going very well.

00:28:56.000 Otherwise, she wouldn't be going on Fox News and maybe, maybe even Rogan.

00:29:04.180 Yeah, right.

00:29:05.120 But, I mean, what's funny, I just, I just was reading this.

00:29:09.060 They're talking to Rogan's people.

00:29:10.620 Well, I mean, I don't know that Rogan, does Rogan have people?

00:29:13.360 Not that I'm aware.

00:29:14.000 I think he just texts Rogan, right?

00:29:15.860 So, I don't think there's, like, an army of people between Kamala Harris's appearance and, like, you know, going to Austin and sitting with Joe Rogan.

00:29:23.140 I think she could probably pull that off this afternoon just by getting on a plane. 1.00

00:29:26.700 I don't think it's hard.

00:29:28.460 And there's, I don't think, I'm not good at predictions trying to make him, but I think there's roughly a 0% chance she goes on Joe Rogan in that range.

00:29:37.620 I mean, I don't know the name of the guy who was just interviewing her, who was asking her, not even questions, just being like, oh, you're so beautiful.

00:29:45.520 Is it hard being so beautiful and you smell good?

00:29:47.760 That guy, she looked afraid in that interview.

00:29:50.160 Can you imagine sitting down with Rogan?

00:29:53.140 I mean, Rogan would be like, you know, like, what's your position on speech?

00:29:57.340 I mean, there's no, for three hours, I don't think there's any possibility she doesn't.

00:30:03.020 Of course, I pray that she does.

00:30:04.340 I think the rest of us deserve that.

00:30:05.980 And by the way, maybe she's amazing.

00:30:07.740 Maybe at the end of three hours, I want to vote for her.

00:30:10.520 I mean, I don't know.

00:30:11.120 I'm trying to be open-minded here.

00:30:12.940 But don't voters deserve a chance, especially with a candidate who's never been elected to the position she holds, which is nominee?

00:30:20.480 Don't we deserve a chance to hear her talk for three hours? 0.99

00:30:23.160 I mean, once?

00:30:25.400 I'm not sure my tender heart could take that, Tucker.

00:30:28.560 I'm not sure I can handle that three hours.

00:30:31.280 But I don't think she can handle it.

00:30:32.920 But you're right, because the open-ended question would be the most dangerous for her.

00:30:37.580 And that's what Rogan does.

00:30:38.700 You know, I mean, on Fox, she'll get pressed by Brett, but it'll be a short interview.

00:30:43.460 She's not, she isn't giving him a lot of time.

00:30:45.340 But if she ever went on Rogan, he wouldn't accept her if she didn't do it on his terms.

00:30:51.460 You know, she needs him.

00:30:52.920 He doesn't need her.

00:30:54.100 So it would have to be lengthy and it would have to be open-ended.

00:30:57.280 And the open-ended question where you can ask follow-ups would be truly deadly to her.

00:31:03.900 Well, yeah, I completely agree.

00:31:06.100 And, you know, from a lifetime of doing them, cable news interviews are pretty easy to game,

00:31:12.060 pretty easy to deflect during the course of a cable news interview, no matter how good.

00:31:15.620 And no one was tougher than you in adversarial interviews on cable news.

00:31:21.640 But even you could be defeated just by the structure, by the time limit.

00:31:26.720 You know, if you can put off an answer for just a few minutes in a normal cable news interview,

00:31:32.200 you can get away with it.

00:31:33.320 You cannot do that in a three-hour format, no matter who is asking the questions. 0.99

00:31:37.520 But I think she's kind of foolish, or her staff is foolish, even to start the conversation about going on Rogan. 0.98

00:31:46.060 Because then the question becomes, well, what does Rogan think of this? 0.99

00:31:49.000 You know, did she really reach out?

00:31:50.260 I mean, at some point she's going to have to turn him down.

00:31:53.060 And I don't think that helps her at all.

00:31:56.700 And also it is a kind of, I mean, the point of this, of course, is men.

00:32:02.760 All men, particularly black men. 0.98

00:32:04.600 She's hemorrhaging among black men, you know, famously. 0.99

00:32:07.520 And she's looking at men who were almost half the population as just like another interest group to be, you know, pandered to. 0.99

00:32:16.000 So she just like did the interview with that ridiculous character. 0.83

00:32:19.340 You just played the clip. 0.75

00:32:20.300 And she starts talking about the community.

00:32:22.060 And I'm like, what community?

00:32:23.260 She's not part of any community that I'm aware of.

00:32:25.300 What is she even talking about?

00:32:26.100 Of course, she's talking about the black community.

00:32:27.340 And she's playing, you know, the Kamala from the streets.

00:32:31.260 She even said, I've been on the streets.

00:32:32.780 Okay.

00:32:33.100 With your one rally a day.

00:32:34.820 I don't think you've been on many streets.

00:32:35.860 But that's kind of ticking the box.

00:32:37.980 Okay. 0.98

00:32:38.200 I've got problems with black voters. 1.00

00:32:39.620 Let's do the black guy show. 1.00

00:32:41.640 I've got problems with men. 0.97

00:32:42.840 Let's do Rogan show.

00:32:44.040 Justin Carter.

00:32:44.240 Yeah, it's so kind of patronizing, paint by numbers, 1980s politics.

00:32:53.420 It's so kind of out of touch, I guess is what I would say.

00:32:57.320 And again, I'm not being mean.

00:32:58.320 I'm not attacking her.

00:32:59.160 I'm not calling her a communist or anything.

00:33:00.800 I'm just saying like I think she's really out of touch.

00:33:03.140 I don't think she is at ease with herself and therefore totally ill at ease with everybody else really is what's happening.

00:33:11.100 And I don't know.

00:33:12.880 I don't think this helps her.

00:33:13.920 Even talking about Rogan helps her at all.

00:33:16.280 You mentioned how she, you know, has a way of turning around on you what she does. 0.98

00:33:20.400 The Democrats in general do this.

00:33:21.920 And I mean there's been no better example of this than the constant Trump's going to weaponize the DOJ against his enemies.

00:33:28.920 Every day she's now amped that up into a campaign ad because Trump, when asked by, for example, Maria Bartiromo about Biden's claim that we're likely to see chaos around the election.

00:33:43.280 And he was saying it'll be MAGA that causes it.

00:33:46.020 And Maria was saying, what do you think?

00:33:47.400 And Trump said, it won't be from my people if we see chaos on election day.

00:33:51.440 And he said, but if there's chaos, then we're going to take care of it.

00:33:55.360 You know, if that requires the National Guard, then it requires the National Guard or even military.

00:33:58.740 We're not going to have that around here.

00:34:00.820 Now it's been changed by Kamala Harris and Tim Walz into he will send the military to your home if you vote for me.

00:34:10.100 That's what Trump is promising, that anyone who doesn't vote for him is going to be arrested by the National Guard or by the military or by the police.

00:34:20.580 And this takes me back to the assassination attempts.

00:34:24.300 Not saying that the Democrats were behind them, but certainly that second guy was not a Trump voter.

00:34:29.720 That first guy seemed like a nutcase, but we don't know the full story on guy number one, the guy who actually managed to shoot Trump.

00:34:36.020 It's been kept from us.

00:34:37.020 Uh, and I just want to take it back to the documentary for a minute because this is an extraordinary piece of access.

00:34:44.080 Justin Wells was there.

00:34:45.900 He was there in Butler when Trump was shot, when Corey Compertori lost his life.

00:34:52.660 And we showed on this program, Selena Zito, um, great Pennsylvania reporter on the ground hurt, not hurt, but in the moment when people were being hurt.

00:35:03.020 And Justin was in that scrum and got incredible footage that I'd never seen before of Trump after the fact.

00:35:09.780 Here is a little bit of that from, this is episode two, uh, of art of the surge and a clip of post the Butler assassination attempt.

00:35:18.320 And look what happened to our country, probably 20 million people.

00:35:26.400 And you know, that's a little bit old.

00:35:27.880 Oh, my God!

00:35:29.700 Oh, my God!

00:35:31.220 Oh, my God!

00:35:31.820 Oh, my God!

00:35:33.720 Oh, my God!

00:35:34.560 Oh, my God!

00:35:34.860 Oh, my God!

00:35:39.780 Oh, my God!

00:35:40.820 Oh, my God!

00:35:41.560 Oh, my God!

00:35:43.560 Oh, my God!

00:35:45.440 Oh, my God!

00:35:46.320 Oh, my God!

00:35:47.320 Oh, my God!

00:35:48.320 Oh, my God!

00:35:49.320 Oh, my God!

00:35:50.320 Oh, my God!

00:35:51.320 Oh, my God!

00:35:52.320 Oh, my God!

00:35:56.600 Really chilling stuff.

00:35:58.600 And, I mean, Justin must have been in danger there, too, obviously.

00:36:01.920 But it's just very rich, Tucker, to hear the Democrats talk about, like, the danger Trump poses.

00:36:07.460 I'm just so grateful that Justin and the camera crew was there, the editor on this, Neil Edelstein, put it together.

00:36:18.620 Because I think it exists, I hope for all time, as a documentary record of what happened, because that event has been memory-holed completely.

00:36:26.580 I mean, that was fairly recently, very recently.

00:36:28.700 There's been no systematic effort to explain, understand, rectify why the Secret Service allowed that shooter, which they did.

00:36:37.860 They allowed it, intentionally or not, on the roof of that building, less than 150 yards away.

00:36:43.080 And the entire event has just sort of disappeared from the public consciousness.

00:36:48.360 And it really matters.

00:36:49.640 It matters, like, really more than anything that's happened in the last year.

00:36:53.000 The use of violence against a public figure, the Republican's presidential candidate, was allowed.

00:37:01.080 And I'm not surprised by it, because this is a group that fetishizes violence.

00:37:06.160 It's one of the reasons they were so happy to welcome the Cheneys into their fold.

00:37:10.400 It's why they have systematically, over the past 15 years, armed the federal agencies in a way that doesn't make any sense at all.

00:37:19.560 How much ammunition have the federal agencies ordered, including the EPA, the IRS?

00:37:25.380 These are not law enforcement agencies.

00:37:27.220 These are not military agencies.

00:37:28.560 Why are they ordering massive amounts of ammunition?

00:37:31.300 To be used against whom?

00:37:32.600 Well, they're domestic agencies, so against American citizens.

00:37:34.920 That's the only answer.

00:37:35.780 So why have they politicized not simply the military, not simply the FBI, the DHS, all the intel agencies?

00:37:43.740 Every armed agency has been systematically brought under the control of the Democratic Party.

00:37:48.300 What is that?

00:37:49.220 Well, that's a distinct focus on violence, on the use of force against other American citizens.

00:37:56.780 And now, apparently, there has been an order from the agencies that would allow the U.S. military to use violence against American citizens.

00:38:06.300 I think that's a fact.

00:38:07.640 So, like, what would explain that?

00:38:10.400 And again, what explains it, the thread that connects all of this, the assassination attempt on Trump, 0.62

00:38:16.360 the support for totally pointless foreign wars, whose only effect is to kill people, it's not to advance the ball for the United States in any sense, just to kill people,

00:38:25.460 and then the arming of the federal agencies, it is a fixation on the use of violence for its own sake.

00:38:32.160 And that's not the right doing that.

00:38:33.820 And they can call you a Nazi or a fascist or whatever, use whatever language they want against you.

00:38:38.360 But the truth is, if you judge people by the things that they do, by their actions rather than their words, the violence is coming overwhelmingly from one side and the threats of violence from one side.

00:38:48.500 And I don't think they can obscure that.

00:38:50.460 I mean, I think what I'm saying is not partisan.

00:38:53.380 I think it's a fair representation of reality that anyone who's been paying attention has watched for 15 years.

00:39:00.520 That's really scary.

00:39:01.740 It is scary.

00:39:31.740 I'm number one, where he actually did take a bullet.

00:39:34.080 And there's no rolling back of any of their messaging.

00:39:37.140 I mean, now that she's really panicking, Tucker, and she is panicking, she's getting worse.

00:39:42.980 Like, she's getting more irresponsible.

00:39:44.680 So is Walls.

00:39:45.640 So are their surrogates.

00:39:47.380 I mean, they're really putting him in even more danger.

00:39:49.260 And we do have three weeks to go.

00:39:50.720 I mean, obviously, if Trump wins, I think they'll, at that point, ramp up to Secret Service.

00:39:55.540 But it's still not at maximum levels right now.

00:39:58.540 And you have to wonder whether it's by design.

00:40:01.740 Well, no one's been fired.

00:40:03.300 I don't understand that.

00:40:04.600 I mean, I've never understood that.

00:40:05.800 In all the years I spent, 1985 to 2020, living in D.C. in the District of Columbia, I never understood this.

00:40:11.800 And I always resented it.

00:40:13.320 There were no consequences for failure.

00:40:15.340 Whether it was at scale, kill a million people in the Iraq war, help the United States, not at all, hurt the United States profoundly.

00:40:22.260 Same in Afghanistan, same in Libya, same in Syria.

00:40:25.220 I mean, that's just at the scale of war.

00:40:27.060 That's not even counting all the federal programs that not only didn't work, but hurt people, aggressively hurt people.

00:40:32.500 And not one person is ever punished.

00:40:35.600 And I just don't understand.

00:40:36.640 Like, that's not how you raise your children.

00:40:39.040 It's not how any business works.

00:40:41.420 It's not how life works.

00:40:42.700 You have to force people to take responsibility for the bad things they do, or else you will get a whole lot more bad things.

00:40:50.280 That's the most obvious lesson of just being alive.

00:40:54.260 And the fact that not one person-

00:40:55.520 What you permit, you promote.

00:40:57.660 That's exactly right.

00:41:00.640 Weirdly, I've never heard that phrase, but I'm going to use it from now on. 1.00

00:41:04.320 Oh, I love that.

00:41:05.760 I love that.

00:41:06.460 Okay.

00:41:06.800 So in upstate New York in the 70s, like they were on this.

00:41:11.220 A lot of wisdom.

00:41:11.960 I just, yeah, a lot of wisdom.

00:41:13.960 And that's very obvious.

00:41:15.040 Also, there was stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about.

00:41:20.280 Did she actually say that?

00:41:21.900 Of course.

00:41:22.660 I was in the 70s.

00:41:23.620 That's so old school.

00:41:25.240 I love that.

00:41:26.400 Good for her.

00:41:28.180 She cared.

00:41:28.680 Go, go, Mrs. Kelly.

00:41:30.280 She cared.

00:41:31.640 No, my favorite was the sign on our kitchen cupboard, which read,

00:41:35.160 lack of planning on your part does not justify an emergency on my part, which, that was another truism.

00:41:40.740 Isn't this explaining a lot?

00:41:43.200 Oh, I just love that.

00:41:44.780 Well, she sounds like an absolutely awesome person who prepared her children for a productive and happy life,

00:41:49.920 which begins with admitting your role in the disaster.

00:41:53.540 And one of the things I hate doing but force myself to do in my life, public and private,

00:41:57.760 is if I make a mistake, I just want to say I made a mistake.

00:42:01.140 I hate doing that.

00:42:02.300 But the second you do it, it's taking out a splinter.

00:42:05.820 You've repented.

00:42:07.080 Your conscience is a little bit clearer.

00:42:09.140 Your credibility is much higher with the people around you.

00:42:11.500 And you can move on.

00:42:12.560 And by the way, you learn something in the process.

00:42:14.740 It's only when you admit, every time I get fired, I always go through this.

00:42:18.160 I always go through this.

00:42:19.620 Your first instinct is blame everybody else.

00:42:22.020 You know, they, everyone else did something bad.

00:42:24.000 But then at a certain point, you have to say, what did I do wrong?

00:42:26.960 And the second you admit what you did wrong, then you become better and you feel lighter.

00:42:31.400 And it's not about blaming other people.

00:42:33.120 It's about moving forward with cheerfulness.

00:42:36.200 And they never do that.

00:42:37.840 Very simple human exercise in Washington.

00:42:39.720 And in this case, allowing the Secret Service to get away with what happened in Butler Township this summer is insane.

00:42:46.660 That's insane because the message is really obvious.

00:42:48.860 This is a politicized agency that can't be trusted.

00:42:51.080 Oh, by the way, they're your bodyguards.

00:42:53.340 How could, who could live in a system like that?

00:42:55.720 Nobody can.

00:42:56.520 No, it was like Eric Prince said, I could have the president secured this afternoon.

00:43:00.320 You know, if you gave it to a private contractor who didn't have the problems that the Secret Service does.

00:43:04.300 But that's not how things work.

00:43:05.440 So she's been in trouble lately for going on very friendly forums like The View and not understanding how to answer the very basic question of what makes you different from Joe Biden.

00:43:14.080 What would you would you have done anything different differently than what he did?

00:43:18.100 And she says, no, no, I'm, you know, I'm right on board with Joe Biden's agenda.

00:43:22.260 I was there for everything.

00:43:23.620 And that's the wrong answer.

00:43:25.240 Of course, she should at least, in my view, at least acknowledge the massive immigration problems.

00:43:31.080 I mean, I just feel like the economy, if I were Kamala, I'd probably still be arguing.

00:43:35.480 It's great.

00:43:35.860 It's great.

00:43:36.260 Just just wait for it.

00:43:37.740 Fine.

00:43:38.220 I mean, that's what a politician would do. 0.78

00:43:39.420 But you cannot ignore what is happening with the massive amount of illegal immigration coming to a city near you with, you know, whether it's a Venezuelan gang infesting your apartment complexes or Springfield, Ohio, with a bunch of Haitians who are tearing about the grocery store and killing people with their hit and runs. 0.89

00:43:58.380 It's coming to a city near you or already has.

00:44:01.080 She won't.

00:44:02.320 And she's got a different way where she won't acknowledge any distance between them or any mistakes whatsoever.

00:44:07.620 And I really think it's hurting her.

00:44:09.880 This brings up Dave Portnoy, who is a man who she would like to get because he's definitely pro-choice.

00:44:17.180 He he went on a tear like a year ago about how the Republican Party, you can't vote for them because they're pro-life and they don't get it.

00:44:23.320 It was post-Dobbs.

00:44:25.060 He seems to be sounding a little different these days because he's not picking up what Kamala Harris is putting down.

00:44:30.900 And it's the gaslighting that the left is doing with Kamala Harris, making it sound like she's some great, groundbreaking candidate. 0.92

00:44:41.240 She is the worst candidate to ever run for president ever. 1.00

00:44:44.700 There's two people voting in this election.

00:44:46.700 They're voting for Donald Trump.

00:44:48.100 You like Donald Trump or you hate Donald Trump and you're voting against him.

00:44:51.240 But Kamala Harris, let's stop it. 1.00

00:44:53.460 And what put this over the edge for me?

00:44:55.800 Last week, I'm watching our campaign rally and she's up there being like, we need to turn the page in America.

00:45:02.580 It's time for a new way forward.

00:45:04.520 And I'm your candidate for change.

00:45:06.400 And they're hooting and hollering.

00:45:07.400 This is the sitting vice president of the United States currently saying she's the candidate for change.

00:45:13.300 She is the worst presidential candidate in the history of American politics. 1.00

00:45:18.500 Honestly, now, if you still want to vote for her because you hate Trump that much and you can't stand him, you think he's all this evil shit, do it. 1.00

00:45:24.580 But stop the gaslighting, please. 0.99

00:45:27.400 The footage is there.

00:45:28.900 She can't answer simple questions. 0.71

00:45:30.680 If you have any issues with the last four years, that's her.

00:45:36.380 What do you make of that?

00:45:37.340 Well, I mean, it was, I think, entirely inevitable.

00:45:42.420 I mean, Dave is obviously very smart.

00:45:44.240 He's not a conservative or a Republican or anything.

00:45:46.980 But his instincts are, you know, sort of no BS.

00:45:50.640 He's an entrepreneur, very successful one.

00:45:52.560 But he also has a huge audience slash constituency of young men who are really the people of the kind that Kamala Harris, you know, hates most.

00:46:04.560 And a lot of this just comes down to subverbal cues.

00:46:09.020 Like, why do working class people of all colors, by the way, like Donald Trump?

00:46:13.660 Because they sense that in the end, he kind of likes them.

00:46:16.680 He doesn't hate them anyway.

00:46:17.640 He doesn't have contempt for them.

00:46:19.100 You know what I mean?

00:46:19.680 If you've got two personal bankruptcies and are, you know, making child support payments that are between jobs, do you really think Donald Trump's like, you know, you deserve it? 0.99

00:46:28.080 Hope you starve to death.

00:46:29.220 Donald Trump's like, no, I get it. 0.99

00:46:30.840 You know what I mean?

00:46:31.400 I understand how hard life is.

00:46:32.740 Your, you know, nephew ODs on fentanyl.

00:46:34.660 You think Donald Trump's going to be like, oh, druggie?

00:46:37.040 Or he's going to be like, man, that's awful that there's fentanyl in this country.

00:46:39.380 He has like a gut level sympathy for struggling Americans.

00:46:42.660 You think Kamala Harris does? 0.99

00:46:44.100 I'm not even needing to make the case.

00:46:46.000 Like, watch Kamala Harris. 0.61

00:46:47.200 Do you think that a single Barstool sports fan, like, has, you know, the love of Kamala Harris?

00:46:54.580 Are you joking?

00:46:55.620 No.

00:46:57.840 Kamala Harris's base is the guy who just interviewed her in that bizarre little clip that you played.

00:47:03.820 You know, that's who really loves Kamala Harris because she smells good. 1.00

00:47:07.320 So I just think she should just hope that there are a lot more of that guy than there are of Barstool sports consumers in this country because, you know, in the end, if you feel that somebody hates you, you're not going to vote for that person.

00:47:21.420 I just don't think you are.

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00:48:30.640 Yeah.

00:48:34.920 You've been very typically self-deprecating,

00:48:37.620 but one thing I think we both know you were right about

00:48:40.480 and the world is starting to see it

00:48:43.080 is J.D. Vance as Trump's running mate.

00:48:46.860 You saw it.

00:48:48.080 You advocated for it.

00:48:49.140 It was the right call.

00:48:50.240 And it was obvious to anybody who knew J.D. Vance

00:48:53.000 why it was the right call.

00:48:54.760 And boy, has he proven himself on the campaign trail.

00:48:57.440 I mean, have you been so impressed with him?

00:48:59.580 I've been so...

00:49:00.960 Whatever the highest expectations we had were,

00:49:03.840 he's exceeded them.

00:49:04.540 Well, it's been a thrill because I'm not friends

00:49:09.080 with any politicians, basically zero.

00:49:11.400 But J.D. Vance I am friends with.

00:49:13.720 For reasons that have nothing to do with politics,

00:49:16.120 I just really like J.D. Vance and his wife.

00:49:18.020 And I think he's like a normal, really smart guy.

00:49:20.320 And I think he understands that, you know,

00:49:25.140 our foreign policy, it's complicated

00:49:26.920 and everyone makes compromises, et cetera.

00:49:29.100 A lot of forces at work, blah, blah, blah.

00:49:30.920 But ultimately what we've done abroad

00:49:32.780 over the past 20 years

00:49:33.700 has not helped the United States or anybody else.

00:49:35.820 And he just has said that obvious truth.

00:49:37.960 And that resonated with me.

00:49:40.260 It's really important.

00:49:41.420 And I cannot overstate how much donors

00:49:43.300 dislike J.D. Vance this summer in July

00:49:46.440 when he was chosen.

00:49:47.800 He was chosen the Monday of the Republican convention.

00:49:50.220 And up until the wire, till that moment,

00:49:52.440 Trump was getting calls from his biggest donors

00:49:54.200 saying, don't do this.

00:49:55.660 Lindsey Graham that morning

00:49:56.880 was telling Trump that J.D. Vance was evil.

00:49:59.520 And of course, the second Trump picks J.D. Vance

00:50:01.560 in defiance of his biggest donors

00:50:04.620 and many of his allies,

00:50:06.080 which was an act of bravery

00:50:07.360 for which he should get credit,

00:50:08.700 the second he picked J.D. Vance,

00:50:10.940 there was Lindsey Graham on Twitter saying,

00:50:12.900 oh, my old friend J.D. Vance,

00:50:14.180 I'm thrilled that he got the nod.

00:50:15.420 You know, they're all so false.

00:50:17.660 They're just such, such phonies.

00:50:19.820 I would respect Lindsey so much more

00:50:22.080 if he would say, J.D. Vance,

00:50:23.840 the guy's horrible. 0.88

00:50:24.840 Trump made a huge mistake. 0.93

00:50:25.940 At least he'd be, you know,

00:50:26.880 he'd be being honest.

00:50:27.760 But they're all frauds.

00:50:28.940 Anyway, but the point is to see J.D.

00:50:33.080 you know, let the rest of the world know

00:50:35.880 how impressive he is,

00:50:37.480 the emotional control he has over himself.

00:50:40.440 Remarkable.

00:50:41.080 Big time.

00:50:41.320 Laudable, in my opinion.

00:50:42.460 Big time.

00:50:43.060 Big time.

00:50:44.140 He's just really smart.

00:50:45.480 He's really normal.

00:50:47.020 He's not weird.

00:50:48.020 That's just not true.

00:50:48.880 It's the opposite of true.

00:50:49.900 You know who is weird?

00:50:50.880 Obviously, it's Tim Walls.

00:50:52.700 Like, I'm not going to go on about it,

00:50:53.740 but that guy's weird.

00:50:54.440 Like, let's be real.

00:50:55.680 And anyway, I think J.D. Vance

00:50:57.500 has been vindicated.

00:50:58.820 And as someone who has

00:51:00.300 sort of been flying

00:51:01.620 the J.D. Vance flag for a while,

00:51:03.800 I'm just thrilled.

00:51:05.180 I never feel this way

00:51:06.000 on politicians

00:51:06.520 because I'm not a politician.

00:51:07.800 I'm not friends with politicians.

00:51:08.800 But in this one specific case,

00:51:10.940 like, I couldn't be more excited.

00:51:13.320 Yeah.

00:51:13.880 Tim Walls has got,

00:51:14.780 I mean, talk about

00:51:15.700 not having control

00:51:17.140 over one's emotions

00:51:18.160 or one's body.

00:51:19.200 Here's a little clip of him.

00:51:20.180 Oh, boy.

00:51:43.040 He keeps bowing.

00:51:47.420 I mean, I'm just going to say,

00:51:49.280 I don't know any man

00:51:50.440 who behaves like that.

00:51:52.120 Come on.

00:51:52.900 I mean, come on.

00:51:53.940 It's so, it's so,

00:51:56.420 it, I'm just trying

00:51:57.620 to control myself

00:51:58.360 because I, you know,

00:51:59.380 I don't want to be mean

00:52:00.260 and also I don't want to say

00:52:01.120 things I can't prove.

00:52:01.980 But like, let's, let's be real.

00:52:03.980 Let me just say,

00:52:04.840 not connected necessarily

00:52:05.760 to Tim Walls,

00:52:06.400 I'm never going to take

00:52:07.640 another lecture

00:52:08.540 about gay rights

00:52:09.380 from these people. 0.99

00:52:10.080 Like, oh, you hate gays 1.00

00:52:11.560 and you keep them all 1.00

00:52:12.380 in the closet or whatever.

00:52:13.840 Any party, you know,

00:52:15.880 I mean, stop with the,

00:52:18.480 with the lectures

00:52:19.120 about that stuff.

00:52:20.500 Do you know what I mean?

00:52:22.000 If you're so for,

00:52:23.580 in general,

00:52:24.820 if you're so for gay rights

00:52:26.260 and that would mean

00:52:26.840 that any member

00:52:27.920 of your party

00:52:28.700 who's gay 0.97

00:52:29.220 would feel free

00:52:29.800 to say so in public

00:52:30.760 and would not be

00:52:31.640 pretending not to be gay. 0.87

00:52:33.020 I'm just saying.

00:52:33.860 You know what I mean?

00:52:34.820 Like, let's,

00:52:35.320 I hate the falseness of it.

00:52:37.380 And by the way,

00:52:38.140 last thing I'll say is

00:52:38.980 I don't want to be mean

00:52:40.080 and I,

00:52:40.640 and I really think

00:52:41.300 that people's private lives

00:52:42.220 can be private

00:52:42.880 if they want them

00:52:43.440 to be private.

00:52:43.980 I don't think

00:52:44.320 you should have to announce

00:52:45.080 everything you're into

00:52:46.320 in public.

00:52:46.800 I believe in privacy.

00:52:47.720 I really do.

00:52:48.280 And I don't think

00:52:48.540 we should bother people

00:52:49.320 on the basis

00:52:49.720 of their private lives.

00:52:50.500 I mean that.

00:52:51.640 So, but they just push so hard.

00:52:53.820 They're the ones

00:52:54.280 you get in other people's

00:52:55.040 private lives.

00:52:55.940 Lecturing your kids

00:52:56.720 about sex and stuff

00:52:57.660 that should be private.

00:52:59.120 You know what I mean?

00:52:59.640 Putting condoms on,

00:53:00.520 but it is.

00:53:00.920 It's not your,

00:53:01.940 just stay away.

00:53:03.080 Let me have a private life.

00:53:04.580 You can have a private life.

00:53:05.840 Let's stop talking

00:53:06.500 about other people's

00:53:07.260 sex lives,

00:53:08.160 other people's

00:53:08.580 sexual orientations.

00:53:09.600 Let's just all agree 0.96

00:53:10.280 to shut up about that. 0.68

00:53:11.660 Okay?

00:53:12.060 That's right.

00:53:12.260 I would be happy

00:53:12.780 with that arrangement.

00:53:14.000 We don't care.

00:53:14.880 And we don't want you

00:53:15.440 talking to our children

00:53:16.120 about it either.

00:53:16.740 Yeah, leave me alone.

00:53:17.580 So, with so little time

00:53:19.880 left to go

00:53:20.560 in this whole thing, Tucker,

00:53:21.880 everybody wants to know

00:53:23.020 who's going to win.

00:53:23.700 And none of us

00:53:24.220 really knows

00:53:25.080 who's going to win.

00:53:25.780 We have to wait

00:53:26.380 for the only poll

00:53:27.080 that matters,

00:53:27.620 which is on election day

00:53:28.500 or the 10 weeks thereafter,

00:53:30.560 thanks to all the mail-in

00:53:31.720 voting changes

00:53:32.880 that the Democrats

00:53:33.480 have pushed through.

00:53:35.120 But, and obviously,

00:53:36.240 I know what you want

00:53:36.840 to have happen,

00:53:37.540 but what's your gut

00:53:39.280 telling you right now?

00:53:40.120 You know, I, my gut,

00:53:43.000 I'm just too emotional

00:53:43.920 about this stuff

00:53:44.800 and that's why

00:53:45.340 I always get it wrong.

00:53:46.500 I'll just refer

00:53:47.340 to the publicly available

00:53:48.920 and the private polling,

00:53:51.000 which is pretty much out there.

00:53:52.820 I mean, because, you know,

00:53:54.880 people are paying

00:53:55.780 close attention.

00:53:56.640 Trump's ahead.

00:53:57.420 You know, there are only

00:53:58.200 seven states,

00:53:59.240 the battleground states

00:53:59.980 are seven states,

00:54:01.240 and Trump is ahead

00:54:04.040 in five of them.

00:54:05.860 And that's enough to win

00:54:07.580 in the electoral college.

00:54:08.820 She's up in Pennsylvania.

00:54:09.940 Now, again,

00:54:10.480 we have three weeks

00:54:11.080 from today to go.

00:54:12.080 That could all change.

00:54:13.280 I'm sure there'll be,

00:54:14.120 you know, a lot of change

00:54:15.200 between now and then

00:54:15.980 and a lot of stuff

00:54:16.580 that we don't expect

00:54:17.200 will happen in three weeks.

00:54:19.040 But as of today,

00:54:19.780 Trump is ahead.

00:54:20.920 And it's obvious

00:54:22.100 in the behavior

00:54:22.840 of the Harris campaign.

00:54:24.300 She's talking about

00:54:24.960 doing Joe Rogan.

00:54:26.280 She's pretending

00:54:26.960 that she's going to do

00:54:28.040 Joe Rogan.

00:54:28.880 If you think she's doing

00:54:30.000 that voluntarily

00:54:30.640 because she loves Joe Rogan,

00:54:32.360 you know what I mean?

00:54:33.120 I don't think so.

00:54:33.980 She's not like

00:54:34.400 a big MMA person.

00:54:34.500 No, that's break glass

00:54:35.000 in case of emergency.

00:54:37.180 Exactly.

00:54:38.180 Exactly.

00:54:38.820 So, yeah, no,

00:54:39.900 Trump is winning right now.

00:54:42.000 And of course,

00:54:42.740 I hope he I hope he does.

00:54:44.280 And I happen to like Trump

00:54:45.600 a lot personally.

00:54:47.760 But even if I hated Trump,

00:54:49.860 the machine can't win.

00:54:51.420 The machine is anti-human.

00:54:52.920 It's not about people.

00:54:54.080 And that was obvious

00:54:55.220 in the way they discarded

00:54:56.160 Joe Biden,

00:54:56.720 who they claim to love.

00:54:57.640 They treated him

00:54:58.240 like an object

00:54:59.740 and they inserted Kamala Harris

00:55:01.400 as if she were an object.

00:55:02.700 They don't care about Kamala Harris 0.60

00:55:03.840 either, by the way.

00:55:04.740 I'm not attacking her.

00:55:05.520 She's merely the face

00:55:07.860 of the party,

00:55:08.660 of an anti-human party.

00:55:10.100 And that party can't win

00:55:11.400 or else all of us

00:55:12.160 are in trouble,

00:55:12.900 including Democrats,

00:55:13.720 by the way.

00:55:14.140 It's not good for anybody.

00:55:15.040 So that machine has to lose.

00:55:16.980 And as of today,

00:55:17.760 that machine is losing.

00:55:19.800 One interesting thing is

00:55:21.320 because Trump is truly

00:55:22.900 like the most vetted person

00:55:24.560 in the world

00:55:25.660 and to your point,

00:55:26.680 hides nothing.

00:55:27.900 You know,

00:55:28.040 he'll be the first

00:55:28.760 to tell you all the things

00:55:29.880 he did,

00:55:30.400 probably with pride.

00:55:31.320 I mean,

00:55:31.860 is there any better example

00:55:32.960 of that than when

00:55:33.920 he was deposed

00:55:34.800 in that E. Jean Carroll

00:55:36.120 nonsense lawsuit

00:55:37.040 and the lawyer,

00:55:38.480 E. Jean Carroll's lawyer

00:55:39.320 is cross-examining him

00:55:40.460 and she's saying,

00:55:41.460 and you said that

00:55:42.000 you grabbed the women, 0.52

00:55:42.960 you know, 0.86

00:55:43.920 by the private parts.

00:55:45.780 And did you say that?

00:55:47.020 And he was like,

00:55:47.580 yes,

00:55:48.020 you know,

00:55:48.500 that's the way it's been

00:55:49.580 for hundreds of years.

00:55:50.960 You know,

00:55:51.540 unfortunately,

00:55:53.020 or fortunately,

00:55:54.280 it was the group.

00:55:55.460 Oh, dude.

00:55:57.380 He's so...

00:55:58.660 I know.

00:55:59.960 So he'll tell you everything.

00:56:02.680 Anyway,

00:56:02.920 my point is,

00:56:03.560 he's vetted.

00:56:04.460 He's vetted.

00:56:05.120 We know.

00:56:06.420 And J.D. Vance,

00:56:07.280 really,

00:56:07.540 he's so young,

00:56:08.460 he has very little

00:56:09.200 to even vet.

00:56:10.040 You know,

00:56:10.240 he too has written

00:56:11.320 this very exposing memoir

00:56:12.980 about his childhood.

00:56:15.260 I mean,

00:56:15.440 he took you all the way up

00:56:16.420 through when he graduated

00:56:17.900 from law school

00:56:18.340 and went out to work

00:56:18.860 for Peter Thiel.

00:56:19.400 There's really nothing

00:56:20.040 more to expose

00:56:21.300 about J.D. Vance.

00:56:22.340 Even when he was

00:56:23.340 first named,

00:56:24.620 the best they could

00:56:25.080 come up with

00:56:25.500 was like some passed out

00:56:26.660 drunk photos

00:56:27.260 at Yale Law School,

00:56:28.080 which means he's normal.

00:56:30.780 However,

00:56:32.480 on the other side,

00:56:33.300 because I'm just thinking

00:56:33.700 about October surprise

00:56:34.680 and things that could

00:56:35.640 maybe change

00:56:36.580 the trajectory

00:56:37.240 of the race,

00:56:38.400 all the risks

00:56:39.160 seems to be built

00:56:39.880 into the other side,

00:56:41.380 Tucker,

00:56:41.780 because what we really have

00:56:43.440 on the other side

00:56:44.060 is a totally

00:56:44.820 unvetted pair,

00:56:46.760 both of them.

00:56:48.300 Yes.

00:56:49.560 I think you're

00:56:50.360 absolutely right.

00:56:51.160 I mean,

00:56:51.620 but we learned

00:56:52.540 in the last cycle,

00:56:53.900 presidential cycle

00:56:54.540 in 2020,

00:56:55.080 that you could

00:56:55.860 literally have

00:56:57.000 the president's

00:56:57.860 son's laptop

00:56:58.660 become public

00:56:59.580 with written

00:57:01.120 documentary evidence

00:57:02.780 of corruption

00:57:03.840 by your candidate

00:57:04.980 and it wouldn't

00:57:05.780 make a difference

00:57:06.320 because it would

00:57:06.680 be suppressed

00:57:07.360 by the media.

00:57:08.900 So, you know,

00:57:09.680 I don't know

00:57:10.520 if anything

00:57:12.540 that came out

00:57:13.120 about Kamala Harris

00:57:13.920 or Tim Walls

00:57:14.500 right now

00:57:14.920 would even filter

00:57:16.340 down to swing voters.

00:57:17.800 I'm not convinced.

00:57:18.980 I think the real threat

00:57:20.080 is in some

00:57:21.580 bigger event,

00:57:22.880 some society-wide event.

00:57:24.820 You know,

00:57:25.960 the escalation

00:57:27.280 of the two

00:57:28.060 ongoing conflicts

00:57:29.080 in the Eastern Europe

00:57:31.660 and the Middle East

00:57:32.480 into some sort

00:57:33.300 of regional

00:57:33.720 or global war,

00:57:34.440 something like that.

00:57:35.740 You know,

00:57:36.100 that might change

00:57:37.420 the outcome.

00:57:39.000 But short of that,

00:57:40.760 I'm not sure

00:57:41.600 that there's time

00:57:43.180 really to change

00:57:44.200 the outcome.

00:57:45.300 I mean,

00:57:45.440 at this point,

00:57:46.000 really,

00:57:46.400 I mean,

00:57:46.660 it's,

00:57:47.280 yeah.

00:57:48.340 Yeah,

00:57:48.740 if you're voting Trump,

00:57:49.620 that's a good thing.

00:57:50.300 I think he's on

00:57:50.680 a good trajectory.

00:57:51.780 I mean,

00:57:51.980 if I were him,

00:57:52.720 I wouldn't want

00:57:53.140 to change much.

00:57:53.880 You just got to keep

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00:57:55.460 and obviously

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00:57:57.100 is,

00:57:57.480 it's everything.

00:57:58.740 I mean,

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00:58:00.480 I will say

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00:58:07.260 He felt very good

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01:01:22.960 Now, before we go,

01:01:24.940 forgive me for raising this,

01:01:26.340 but our old pal,

01:01:27.820 Chris Wallace,

01:01:29.300 had,

01:01:30.080 he decided it would be fun 0.99

01:01:31.440 to take a shot at you.

01:01:33.260 And since we've had fun

01:01:34.360 talking about Chris Wallace

01:01:35.160 in the past,

01:01:35.700 I thought I'd bring it up.

01:01:36.760 So he,

01:01:37.580 I don't know,

01:01:37.940 how did this come out?

01:01:38.780 I'm not sure.

01:01:39.480 He was giving an interview.

01:01:41.520 I'm not sure why he was even

01:01:42.700 giving an interview

01:01:43.640 about himself.

01:01:45.200 Oh, he's on a book tour.

01:01:46.760 He's on a book tour, Tucker.

01:01:48.320 And the following change

01:01:49.560 Did you write another book

01:01:49.980 about soup

01:01:50.500 or another topic?

01:01:53.120 I don't know.

01:01:54.540 Soup.

01:01:55.120 There was,

01:01:55.720 there was one.

01:01:56.840 Mr. Super Bowl Sunday.

01:01:57.760 Yeah, about soup.

01:01:58.680 Okay.

01:01:59.400 Watch.

01:02:00.900 Tucker Carlson texted,

01:02:02.220 it should be.

01:02:04.260 We devote our lives

01:02:05.500 to building an audience

01:02:06.940 and they let Chris Wallace

01:02:09.420 wreck it.

01:02:10.960 Your response.

01:02:13.520 Well, I'm employed

01:02:14.820 and Tucker really isn't anymore.

01:02:16.720 So that's part of my response.

01:02:19.840 Okay.

01:02:20.760 I love that response so much.

01:02:23.600 It's pretty great.

01:02:24.200 It just shows

01:02:24.880 how clueless he is.

01:02:27.080 We talked about this

01:02:28.120 when I went on tour

01:02:29.400 with you

01:02:29.860 to suggest

01:02:31.580 as he does there

01:02:32.880 that Chris Wallace

01:02:34.160 has anywhere near

01:02:35.860 the relevance

01:02:37.320 or power.

01:02:38.500 I know you won't say that

01:02:39.560 and you don't see yourself

01:02:40.580 that way about yourself

01:02:41.520 that you have

01:02:43.220 is just a lie.

01:02:44.800 It's obtuse.

01:02:45.720 It's a lie.

01:02:46.360 It's an intentional deception

01:02:47.540 and he knows better.

01:02:49.620 So it's his defensiveness,

01:02:50.960 which I have to admit,

01:02:52.180 I kind of am enjoying.

01:02:54.240 But the reason

01:02:55.340 I want to ask you about it

01:02:56.240 is I do want to ask you

01:02:57.360 how it's feeling now, right?

01:02:59.540 It's been more than a year.

01:03:02.100 It's been, I think,

01:03:03.000 by my calculation,

01:03:03.860 a year and a half

01:03:04.340 since you left Fox.

01:03:05.560 You're out on your own.

01:03:07.160 You're everywhere.

01:03:08.520 You're crushing it.

01:03:09.360 The world tour

01:03:10.160 has been super fun to watch.

01:03:12.440 I've heard on more than one podcast

01:03:14.240 that I listen to,

01:03:15.480 many people view it

01:03:16.500 either as

01:03:17.220 this is Tucker's

01:03:19.540 gearing up for 2028

01:03:21.260 or this is Tucker

01:03:23.440 doing a sideline

01:03:24.620 sort of road show

01:03:27.040 to help Trump.

01:03:28.480 I actually, 0.99

01:03:29.240 maybe I'm just dumb, Tucker. 0.84

01:03:30.420 I think it's in the middle 0.98

01:03:31.200 and it's just you

01:03:32.040 wanting to get back out there

01:03:33.380 and see some of your fans

01:03:34.920 and talk about the news

01:03:35.980 and, you know,

01:03:36.860 take your show on the road

01:03:37.680 and exercise your sea legs.

01:03:39.340 In any event,

01:03:40.560 comments or thoughts

01:03:41.300 on any and all of that?

01:03:43.300 Well, I would just say

01:03:44.780 of the tour,

01:03:45.320 I have the least complicated motives.

01:03:47.200 I'm not a complicated person at all.

01:03:48.920 I wish I was.

01:03:50.720 I just,

01:03:51.260 kind of wanted to get out

01:03:52.180 and see the country

01:03:53.280 and have fun

01:03:54.080 and it was,

01:03:55.460 you were unbelievable.

01:03:57.100 I was saying to your producer

01:03:57.880 that The Night With You

01:03:59.280 was really a highlight.

01:04:00.640 That was incredible.

01:04:02.400 But I've loved it

01:04:03.580 and poor Chris Wallace.

01:04:04.780 I look at Chris Wallace

01:04:05.500 and I think,

01:04:06.460 I really hope

01:04:07.220 by the time I'm 80

01:04:08.080 that I'm just with my grandkids.

01:04:10.360 Like, you know,

01:04:11.100 it's a privilege to be able to,

01:04:12.520 it's a privilege to be able

01:04:13.440 to talk about politics

01:04:14.400 and things you think matter

01:04:15.480 and, you know,

01:04:16.260 it's all great.

01:04:17.360 But if that's the most important thing

01:04:18.980 in your life,

01:04:19.360 if that's more important

01:04:20.040 than your grandchildren,

01:04:21.060 children or your dogs

01:04:22.620 or, you know,

01:04:24.140 bird hunting,

01:04:25.160 I don't know.

01:04:26.120 Your priorities may be out of whack.

01:04:28.720 I just don't want to be doing this

01:04:30.440 when I'm 80

01:04:31.260 or however old Chris is,

01:04:32.840 85, 88,

01:04:34.260 whatever his age is.

01:04:36.080 So there's that.

01:04:36.940 I'm not being mean,

01:04:37.520 I'm being sincere.

01:04:38.340 Like,

01:04:38.540 it's good to get off the stage

01:04:40.000 at some point

01:04:40.620 and I really do plan to.

01:04:42.540 But I'm as happy

01:04:43.800 as I've ever been.

01:04:44.660 I've loved it.

01:04:46.900 I've loved being able

01:04:48.560 to say exactly what I think

01:04:49.920 without worrying about it.

01:04:51.200 I mean,

01:04:51.340 Fox didn't really control me

01:04:52.820 very well anyway,

01:04:53.860 but now I really don't have a boss

01:04:55.500 and that's wonderful.

01:04:56.320 I love seeing things,

01:04:58.460 traveling wherever I want to go,

01:05:00.680 talking to any person I want to.

01:05:02.260 If Chris Wallace doesn't like it,

01:05:04.260 you know,

01:05:04.660 that's great.

01:05:05.420 You know what I mean?

01:05:06.120 It's like,

01:05:06.500 it's such a happier life.

01:05:07.820 And the last thing I'll say is

01:05:08.840 I love how real

01:05:11.560 independent media is.

01:05:13.300 I love that when

01:05:14.240 you say something on your show,

01:05:16.000 like people text me about it

01:05:17.200 or,

01:05:18.100 you know,

01:05:18.280 all the people I know

01:05:19.320 who've been expelled

01:05:20.220 from the dying media machine

01:05:22.440 who've wound up

01:05:24.140 continuing in media

01:05:25.260 are more influential

01:05:26.220 than the colleagues

01:05:26.960 they left behind.

01:05:28.080 I never thought

01:05:28.760 that would actually happen.

01:05:30.700 Rogan,

01:05:31.140 I mean,

01:05:31.540 I just,

01:05:32.340 whatever you think of Rogan,

01:05:33.260 I just always want to say

01:05:34.300 Rogan created

01:05:35.520 single-handedly,

01:05:36.960 I think,

01:05:37.800 this genre,

01:05:38.580 of the podcast.

01:05:39.360 Like,

01:05:39.500 I can't believe

01:05:40.080 it actually worked.

01:05:41.680 And I hope he gets credit.

01:05:43.160 Even people who don't like Rogan,

01:05:44.480 I think,

01:05:44.900 should give him credit

01:05:45.740 for truly pioneering

01:05:48.500 what we're doing now.

01:05:50.160 And so I just absolutely love it.

01:05:52.200 I couldn't love it more.

01:05:53.720 Not only did Rogan build it,

01:05:55.340 he built the whole highway.

01:05:58.080 Yes.

01:05:58.740 But he never,

01:06:00.580 you never saw

01:06:01.720 or see Rogan

01:06:03.100 doing a hit on Fox

01:06:05.260 or MS

01:06:06.240 or a Sunday show

01:06:07.540 or in a magazine spread,

01:06:09.800 he is the opposite

01:06:11.580 of self-promotional.

01:06:13.760 So every single audience member

01:06:15.920 he has,

01:06:16.740 and it's huge,

01:06:18.220 he earned

01:06:18.980 just by being great,

01:06:20.560 just by word of mouth

01:06:21.680 in an era where

01:06:23.020 nobody was really

01:06:24.480 coming over here,

01:06:25.480 which is one of the reasons

01:06:26.600 why it's so impressive.

01:06:28.040 It's incredible.

01:06:29.260 And he devotes

01:06:30.300 all this energy

01:06:31.040 to things he loves

01:06:32.180 purely because he loves them.

01:06:34.320 Whether it's,

01:06:35.220 whether you,

01:06:35.820 you know,

01:06:36.000 I love them or you love them or not,

01:06:37.160 it's stand-up comedy,

01:06:38.920 bow hunting,

01:06:40.020 MMA.

01:06:40.900 I mean,

01:06:41.100 he spends like

01:06:41.800 half of his life

01:06:43.020 just pursuing things

01:06:44.560 that he thinks

01:06:45.240 are fun and cool

01:06:46.300 because he thinks

01:06:47.380 they're fun and cool.

01:06:48.540 And so he's a whole person.

01:06:50.060 That's kind of the point

01:06:50.700 I was making about Kamala.

01:06:52.100 She's missing out

01:06:53.060 on the purpose of life,

01:06:54.180 which is to enjoy other people.

01:06:55.560 It's not to accumulate money

01:06:56.960 or power.

01:06:57.640 It's to enjoy other people,

01:07:00.040 to serve other people,

01:07:01.360 to use the creative powers

01:07:03.100 that God gave you at birth

01:07:04.460 for something interesting and good.

01:07:06.520 Make something beautiful.

01:07:08.000 You know,

01:07:08.240 use your talents.

01:07:09.820 And I see Rogan doing that.

01:07:11.520 Again,

01:07:11.760 whether they're my interests

01:07:13.020 or yours or not,

01:07:13.700 it doesn't matter.

01:07:14.200 They're his.

01:07:14.960 And he's fully living them.

01:07:17.440 And that's just,

01:07:18.020 it's a model of life

01:07:19.260 that I really appreciate.

01:07:22.400 So more people should do that.

01:07:24.540 Well,

01:07:25.000 maybe Kamala will go on Joe Rogan. 0.86

01:07:26.760 Maybe she'll bring Tim Walz

01:07:27.900 and maybe Joe Rogan

01:07:28.900 can show him a thing or two

01:07:30.140 about how to hunt,

01:07:31.380 how to load a gun,

01:07:32.680 how to kill a pheasant. 0.92

01:07:33.900 Something I know you can do too.

01:07:35.260 You and my husband, Doug, 0.99

01:07:36.260 love to kill the birds. 0.97

01:07:37.200 Yeah. 0.74

01:07:37.540 Amen.

01:07:38.380 Yes.

01:07:38.940 Enjoy it this afternoon.

01:07:40.400 He needs a little help.

01:07:42.020 It's a pleasure as always.

01:07:43.560 Don't forget,

01:07:44.080 everybody,

01:07:44.540 you've got to go

01:07:44.980 to tuckercarlson.com.

01:07:46.520 Find the art of the surge.

01:07:48.260 It's gripping.

01:07:49.200 It's so well done.

01:07:50.620 It's very impressive.

01:07:51.280 Justin,

01:07:51.860 as I understand it,

01:07:52.660 really only had his iPhone

01:07:54.040 and one camera guy.

01:07:55.860 And it looks like

01:07:56.560 a huge,

01:07:57.340 expensive production.

01:07:59.060 Beautifully done.

01:07:59.860 Thank you so much.

01:08:01.380 You're the best.

01:08:02.260 Thank you, Megan.

01:08:03.140 I appreciate it.

01:08:04.300 To be continued.

01:08:05.720 And we'll see all of you

01:08:07.240 tomorrow.

01:08:11.320 Thanks for listening

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01:08:15.260 and no fear.

01:08:21.280 No.

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01:08:22.660 We'll see you next time.

01:08:26.580 Right?

01:08:29.900 No.

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01:08:35.180 No.

01:08:37.840 I mean,

The Megyn Kelly Show - October 16, 2024

Tucker Carlson on Kamala's Skill-Free Rise to Power, Trump's Brave Pick of JD Vance, and the Butler Memory Hole ｜ Ep. 918

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