The Megyn Kelly Show - U.S. Men's Hockey Team's Inspirational Patriotism, Alysa Liu's Important Lesson, and Gavin Newsom's Wild SAT Comment

00:00:00.460 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.140 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.540 What a weekend for America on the world stage.

00:00:19.580 It was on full display by the gold medal winning USA men's hockey team on ice.

00:00:24.720 What a game. Did you watch it?

00:00:26.840 But we did something we never do, which is watch television 8 a.m. on Sunday in order to make sure we saw it.

00:00:33.360 And boy, were we glad we did.

00:00:36.140 In bars and other locales across the nation, you could clearly and passionately, in the voice of President Trump, hear, hear when he called them up to congratulate them.

00:00:47.700 You know, you could hear his joy and his exuberance, and we all felt it.

00:00:52.280 From the guys at the bar with the ales to the guy in the White House with the red phone, calling them up and making sure they knew how proud we were of them.

00:01:02.740 I couldn't get enough of it.

00:01:04.000 It was very funny.

00:01:04.960 Will Cain of Fox News tweeted out something like, my wife at 9.30 this morning didn't know how many periods there were in hockey and really had absolutely no idea what was going on by 10 a.m. in tears and, you know, chanting USA.

00:01:22.800 Same. I'm ready to sign all three of my kids up for hockey, even though they're 16, 14, and 12 and no one can skate.

00:01:29.600 But it's happening.

00:01:30.880 Forget the tennis, the soccer, the basketball, hockey, hockey parents, you were right.

00:01:37.800 You were right about all of it.

00:01:39.760 It was so good.

00:01:40.620 Like, all of it was good.

00:01:41.400 What I'm loving about the whole hockey situation, just watching and admiring it as an outsider, is obviously the sport has got patriotism pumping through its veins.

00:01:54.600 The legacy of Herb Brooks runs strong.

00:01:59.320 That's how it felt to me.

00:02:01.120 You want to wear the USA hockey jersey, you better love the USA.

00:02:07.080 And you better make that clear whenever someone sticks a mic in your face.

00:02:12.060 These boys know because it seems like they have been socialized, they've been culturized to understand that you are expected to bleed red, white, and blue.

00:02:23.360 And they do.

00:02:24.540 They do.

00:02:24.980 It's not an affectation.

00:02:26.220 I'm sure they do it because, say the things and all that, because they've been programmed.

00:02:30.080 Like, you understand this is what is expected of you if you're going to put on the jersey, which is what you should do.

00:02:35.120 It's what you do with your kids.

00:02:36.120 You know what I mean?

00:02:36.840 You stand when the national anthem comes on.

00:02:38.640 I don't care whether you're feeling it or not.

00:02:40.180 Stand up.

00:02:41.160 Put your hand on your heart and take off your hat.

00:02:43.180 Now.

00:02:44.020 You do it with your kids until it becomes second nature to them.

00:02:47.340 And then as they get older, it becomes actual nature for them to feel the love.

00:02:52.300 Same with these hockey players.

00:02:53.440 You could just tell.

00:02:55.260 And I love their brotherhood.

00:02:57.700 You know, it's like we'll get into some of the stories about the actual brotherhood examples on the team and, you know, amongst the guys and just how close they are, how much they clearly loved one another.

00:03:10.140 In addition to the country, it was like being around for the miracle on ice, but a second time.

00:03:15.920 No, the game odds were not as heavily stacked against us.

00:03:19.560 But the love those guys had for one another felt reminiscent of what happened in 1980.

00:03:25.580 Just something truly special that most of us today were either too young for or maybe not even born for and didn't get to experience except through movies like the one starred in by Kurt Russell.

00:03:37.180 So it was just so uplifting to watch and then to watch their celebrations after the fact and like these gorgeous, like promising young American athletes with the whole world at their fingertips, their entire lives in front of them with such sacrifice to date.

00:03:57.020 You know, these guys, 26 years old, they've been skating since they were two.

00:04:00.300 And much like Alyssa Liu, their female counterpart over in the figure skating competition, counterpart only in that she also is performing miracles on ice, there was just like a joy that came with that enormous amount of sacrifice and then seeing it pay off.

00:04:18.760 You know, both Alyssa Liu and the men and the women of USA Hockey have spent their entire lives on skates, but without losing the joy of it.

00:04:28.300 You know, Alyssa Liu, we talked on Friday, almost did.

00:04:31.040 And she quit for two years and then had that moment when she tried on skis and had so much fun, even though her legs were burning and said, you know, what if I could, what if I could get here on my skates, which I'm actually kind of good at and figured out, you know what?

00:04:43.820 I can, I can do it and I want to do it.

00:04:45.860 And for the listening audience, here's the picture of her up on the winning podium, jumping into the air, defying gravity yet again with her skates on, both arms over the air, over the head in the air, triumphant as the second and the third place winners looked up admiringly at her.

00:05:02.100 You know, normally it'd be like side eye, as the kids say, bombastic side eye, but it wasn't.

00:05:07.520 Those girls are looking up at her like, wow.

00:05:10.180 And there were stories about Alyssa Liu on how she was sort of reinventing relations behind the stage at the figure skating competition.

00:05:21.040 Not just Alyssa, but she was part of it being full of camaraderie for the other skaters, loving America, of course, but like rooting on the other girls, not like refusing to look at people, but walking over, hugging people, competitors from other countries and just sort of creating a different atmosphere of like we're in this together.

00:05:39.500 Yes, we represent our representative, our respective countries, but we're ice skaters.

00:05:43.880 We're, we're all having a similar life in that we've sacrificed it all.

00:05:47.420 We didn't go to the late night parties.

00:05:49.200 We didn't go to all the fun events that we could have.

00:05:53.080 We didn't sleep in.

00:05:54.740 We probably were homeschooled because we have this extraordinary commitment to this sport.

00:06:01.980 And anyway, same for all those guys we watched yesterday.

00:06:06.060 You know, the number of man hours it took to make these gods on ice is kind of unfathomable.

00:06:13.620 Now we're going to walk you through all the insane moments, the great ones that made us cry and cheer and feel connected to one another through that TV box and the insane ones that made us laugh out loud.

00:06:26.440 Like the Huffington Post feeling, quote, discomfort at all the patriotism.

00:06:31.580 They're very upset that you may be experiencing cognitive dissonance between your dissonance between between like what you're feeling when you feel pride and looking at these guys and your hatred for America and President Trump.

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00:07:35.400 Okay, so let's go back.

00:07:36.740 The big win this weekend, yesterday, it happened exactly 46 years after the 1980 miracle on ice when U.S. men's hockey beat the Soviet Union in the 1980 Lake Placid Olympics.

00:07:54.440 Remember?

00:07:55.580 The U.S. team is depending a little bit too much now on Jim Craig.

00:07:58.760 He's making too many good saves.

00:08:00.340 The Rosione scores by the Rosione.

00:08:06.740 11 seconds.

00:08:10.340 You've got 10 seconds.

00:08:11.540 The countdown going on right now.

00:08:13.320 Morrow.

00:08:14.080 Up to Schultz.

00:08:14.940 Five seconds left in the game.

00:08:16.620 It's over.

00:08:16.660 Do you believe in miracles?

00:08:18.200 Yes!

00:08:19.620 Unbelievable.

00:08:20.100 Oh, such a great story.

00:08:29.140 Al Michaels, who called the game kind of like part of America, not kind of, part of American history in the way he came up with that line and used it at just the right time.

00:08:37.240 That, of course, wasn't even the gold medal round.

00:08:41.080 That was the semifinals, I think, and we beat Finland for the gold, but the big contest was always going to be the Soviets.

00:08:48.500 They had crushed everybody.

00:08:49.720 They were inhuman.

00:08:51.000 We were a bunch of knuckleheaded college kids at the time before we were using our pros in the Olympics, and no one thought we could do it.

00:08:57.720 Even we didn't think we could do it.

00:08:59.300 It seems like only Herb Brooks thought we could do it.

00:09:01.760 And as documented in the movie Miracle, he made himself the common enemy of those guys to get them to get along because they were all fighting against each other in their respective college programs and had come to, like, demonize one another based on the region they were from, you know, the schools that they attended.

00:09:17.860 And Herb was such a prick and so hard on the team that they all turned on him, which was by design.

00:09:24.560 Now, of course, they all, you know, came to adore and love Herb Brooks, and it's all legend what he did with them.

00:09:33.360 Many documentaries about that team.

00:09:36.340 The Kurt Russell movie, which is not to be missed.

00:09:38.220 I mean, like, I think that might be the number one movie I've enjoyed watching with my kids.

00:09:41.720 They love it, too.

00:09:42.720 So all those sports movies, you know, like Seabiscuit, Secretariat, Rudy, it's all in the same vein.

00:09:51.500 If that doesn't, like, bring up a tear, I don't know how to help you.

00:09:54.900 Like, that should bring up a tear, like the best tear, you know, like the one that comes from true emotion, not sadness, that comes from true, like, love of country and seeing the little guys triumph.

00:10:06.820 Those are the things that really get you.

00:10:09.360 Michael Ruzzioni was the team captain.

00:10:11.100 He scored the game-winning goal in 1980.

00:10:14.880 We interviewed him on this show in 2022 about why all these years later that incredible win still resonates.

00:10:24.220 The hockey fan, it was a hockey game.

00:10:26.600 But for people in this country, and we found out later, it was, you know, we needed something to feel good about as a country.

00:10:32.580 Like, the hostages had been taken.

00:10:35.560 Soviets had invaded Afghanistan.

00:10:37.500 The gas lines, inflation.

00:10:39.020 And along we come.

00:10:42.180 A bunch of us, Herb called us, lunch pail, hard hat group of guys.

00:10:45.480 But I think people related to our team.

00:10:47.760 They saw where we came from.

00:10:49.640 They saw our backgrounds.

00:10:50.900 Like I said to you earlier, Megan, we came from working-class families.

00:10:54.800 What makes this country so great is the people like our parents and what they taught us and the values and the work ethic that our team had.

00:11:02.360 I think people saw that in us.

00:11:03.760 They saw that work ethic.

00:11:04.880 They saw that, you know, we love America type of a hockey team.

00:11:08.480 And we did.

00:11:09.240 We took great pride in putting that jersey on that says USA across the front.

00:11:12.460 And I think people saw that and related to that.

00:11:14.720 And then by winning, it just skyrocketed.

00:11:18.320 You know, I can't tell you how many times people come up to me today and they'll say exactly this.

00:11:23.340 I remember where I was when we won.

00:11:25.840 And I go, we?

00:11:26.840 I didn't know you were on the team.

00:11:28.380 But that's what people felt like.

00:11:31.140 They felt like they were a part of us.

00:11:33.080 And people were proud to wave the flag after, you know, after we won.

00:11:39.480 Yes, that is the beauty of these amazing Olympic victories is they can make you feel incredibly patriotic no matter what's happening in your country.

00:11:49.400 We were in the midst of a very dark period back in 1980.

00:11:53.680 And this gift to us from this group of boys would be forever remembered.

00:12:02.380 And, you know, it's not to compare where we are today.

00:12:05.060 I mean, it was a very different situation back in 1980.

00:12:07.320 Far worse, you idiots at HuffPo.

00:12:10.080 But we are divided.

00:12:11.680 There's no question we're politically divided here in the United States.

00:12:17.760 So the win still feels as good.

00:12:20.860 You know, the odds weren't quite as against us in this match as they were back in 1980.

00:12:27.900 But it's still at bottom American pride, power, and patriotism on full display.

00:12:38.380 Right?

00:12:38.820 I mean, it's just like it's stunning how it makes you feel.

00:12:43.340 Look at the goalie here.

00:12:44.660 This goalie, Conor Hellebuck, he was so good.

00:12:48.840 This guy collected 41 saves to help keep the game tied at 1-1.

00:12:55.040 They shot on him 42 times.

00:12:58.160 He only let one go in.

00:13:00.980 Including this moment where he used the paddle of his stick, the paddle, like the part up high, to stop the puck from going in and giving Canada the win.

00:13:08.520 That guy, he was like the new Jim Craig, who was the miracle on ice goalie.

00:13:13.740 Just unstoppable.

00:13:14.960 Just, I mean, like the legs, the knees down, like complete.

00:13:18.340 It was, he was moving like he was not a human being.

00:13:23.320 And just so fast.

00:13:25.160 It was amazing.

00:13:25.780 Because the U.S. went up right away in the beginning of that match.

00:13:28.300 It was 1-0 almost the entire time.

00:13:30.280 And then at the end of the second period, the Canadians popped one in, got one past Hellebuck, and it was tied up.

00:13:38.540 And then we get to overtime.

00:13:43.080 And who knew what was going to happen?

00:13:46.160 In overtime, you only go three against three, which is unusual, I guess, for the Olympics.

00:13:50.220 And it was sudden death.

00:13:52.840 It could have gone either way.

00:13:54.160 And then one minute and 41 seconds into the sudden death OT.

00:13:59.500 Zach Wierenski.

00:14:01.460 Zach Wierenski, who I'm going to get to in a minute.

00:14:03.700 Remember that name.

00:14:04.880 Because he played on the team with the guy they called Johnny Hockey, Johnny Goudreau.

00:14:12.200 And he would come back later to play a role in honoring Johnny's family, family members.

00:14:21.080 Johnny, who died, killed by a drunk driver.

00:14:24.060 But Zach Wierenski skies, I'm sorry, skates with him, or did.

00:14:28.760 And this guy, he would wind up bringing out, you know, be one of the ones to bring out Johnny's kids to join the team for their photo.

00:14:35.700 But Zach got the assist on the game-winning goal, which is great, firing a cross-ice pass back to Jack Hughes, who's a household name today.

00:14:48.000 But, you know, relatively unknown to those of us who don't follow hockey yesterday.

00:14:52.300 And Jack was the one who scored the so-called golden goal, the winner.

00:14:57.800 Watch.

00:14:58.720 United States with numbers.

00:15:02.220 Back across it comes.

00:15:04.240 Jack Hughes wins it.

00:15:05.700 The golden goal for the United States.

00:15:11.520 For the first time since the 1980 miracle, the United States takes the gold.

00:15:28.080 Amazing.

00:15:29.340 Look at their pure joy at winning.

00:15:31.840 Helmets went flying.

00:15:33.460 The hugging.

00:15:34.080 I mean, it was less than one second for those boys to run out on the ice.

00:15:39.120 They knew immediately when that puck went in.

00:15:42.200 You know, for some of us not used to watching hockey, it goes so fast.

00:15:44.560 You're like, is the puck in?

00:15:45.620 We got a goal?

00:15:46.440 Oh, my God, we won?

00:15:47.020 Those boys know in less than a split second.

00:15:51.200 They were on the ice with the helmets off and rushing Jack and the entire team rushing onto the ice to have that moment together.

00:15:59.540 It was magic for them.

00:16:01.100 It was magic for all of us.

00:16:03.360 All of us sane people in the country.

00:16:06.440 Here are some of the celebrations that rang out here at home.

00:16:10.940 This is near Indiana University at the, I think it's called the pub bar.

00:16:25.100 Here.

00:16:25.540 This is in Oxford, Ohio.

00:16:28.480 Look at these boys, hands on hearts, singing.

00:16:33.420 This is at Miami University, Ohio.

00:16:35.580 Oh, amazing.

00:16:55.460 USA!

00:16:56.620 USA!

00:16:58.040 USA!

00:17:00.100 And this great picture of Jack Hughes.

00:17:03.520 This is not the most iconic.

00:17:05.020 The one that's going to be the most iconic is the one of him wrapped in the flag with his teeth just front and center.

00:17:11.720 But this is a great one, too.

00:17:13.260 He chipped his tooth during the game.

00:17:15.060 No, not his tooth.

00:17:16.460 Teeth.

00:17:17.260 Teeth.

00:17:18.260 During the game, after he took a high stick in the face from a Canadian player.

00:17:22.200 I mean, it's amazing because they wear mouth guards, but they don't always protect the mouth.

00:17:26.440 He was bleeding all over his mouth.

00:17:29.580 You could see, like, his three top teeth kind of gone, sliced diagonally.

00:17:33.780 And later showing it off with pride, he felt no pain.

00:17:37.780 He felt absolutely no pain.

00:17:39.560 He felt only the weight of gold around his neck.

00:17:43.940 Hughes and other members of the team, including his brother Quinn.

00:17:47.220 He has a big brother, Quinn, who plays NHL hockey.

00:17:50.820 And he's got a younger brother who also plays NHL hockey.

00:17:56.600 He's named Luke.

00:17:57.600 So there's Luke, Jack, and Quinn Hughes.

00:18:01.560 And what a dynasty the Hughes parents have produced for us Americans.

00:18:07.040 They're there celebrating the team, draping the American flag over their shoulders, as you've seen all our athletes do after they've won medals in these games.

00:18:18.320 And when the moment came to sing the national anthem on the world stage, no one phoned it in, no one grimaced, no one sat looking pained without their hand on their heart.

00:18:33.660 No one took a knee.

00:18:35.960 Watch.

00:18:36.380 Watch.

00:18:58.380 Wow.

00:18:58.820 The guys then went into the locker room to celebrate and also blast Toby Keith's courtesy of the red, white, and blue.

00:19:14.820 Let's go!

00:19:16.320 We own the sport of hockey, baby!

00:19:18.780 Let's fucking go!

00:19:21.700 What's up?

00:19:23.920 Baby!

00:19:24.280 That was amazing.

00:19:44.320 That was so great.

00:19:44.980 They all have these, like, light blue goggles on.

00:19:48.120 I guess they've been wearing them in the Olympic Village, but that kind of made it even cooler.

00:19:51.520 They're all feeling zero pain at this point, chugging beers and dancing around.

00:19:57.580 And you heard the Toby Keith and also a little Aerosmith at the top there.

00:20:03.060 So good.

00:20:03.980 Like, these songs, the hockey culture just seems—I'll tell you, even where we are, there's a big hockey culture.

00:20:10.320 And I have nothing but respect for these hockey parents who go, like, and freeze their asses off as they get their boys and their girls in training, you know, day and night.

00:20:19.400 The crack of dawn, these freezing cold ice rinks where you have to layer it up, you know, four layers at least to be inside watching your kid train.

00:20:29.120 And then I'll tell you what, the, like, tailgate culture, notwithstanding the fact that it's 20 below with the windchill, man, they're out there.

00:20:38.540 They're—it's like there's something about hockey.

00:20:41.180 These parents are so committed.

00:20:42.660 These boys and girls are so committed.

00:20:45.320 It's hardcore in a great way.

00:20:48.440 And it's almost like they work you so hard and are so unapologetic about the amount of work that's going to go into it that it toughens you up as a human.

00:20:56.380 I think both the parents and the kids, there'll be no whining in hockey.

00:21:00.440 That's what seemed clear to me from watching everyone yesterday, just getting, like, a bird's eye peek into the culture and having seen a bit of it at our school.

00:21:10.360 Like, great guys, great families who love America.

00:21:15.780 They don't F around when it comes to their partying, their celebration around the sport, or the hard work that it takes to produce a champion.

00:21:24.260 And those guys yesterday, our champions, when they got a call from President Donald Trump, I mean, it was honestly hard to tell who was more excited, the guys or the sitting U.S. president.

00:21:37.260 Watch.

00:21:37.540 By the way, your goalie played not bad.

00:21:42.420 How are you? Say hi to him.

00:21:44.060 How are you? Say hi to him.

00:21:45.000 How are you doing, Dan?

00:21:48.500 I have seen hockey goalies have slightly worse games than them.

00:21:53.380 Unbelievable. And you were all unbelievable.

00:21:56.400 You know, I tell you what, I just told my people two minutes ago, I didn't know they'd be calling.

00:22:01.100 I said, we're giving the State of the Union speech on Tuesday night.

00:22:05.060 I could send the military plane or something, but if you would like to, it's the coolest night, it's the biggest.

00:22:13.060 We're in.

00:22:13.600 We're in.

00:22:16.520 Can you pick us up in Miami on Tuesday morning?

00:22:19.760 Yeah, Tuesday morning.

00:22:21.020 We'll get the cash and we'll get the military to get you guys over.

00:22:26.360 Okay, let's go.

00:22:29.280 I'll do the White House the next day. We'll just have some fun. We have medals for you guys.

00:22:32.900 You're going to be proud of that game for 50 years as you grow older.

00:22:36.920 I mean, it was amazing. So we love you guys. Congratulations.

00:22:42.500 Oh, so amazing. And wasn't it so great how he barely got the question out before they said, we're in.

00:22:48.820 You know, not like these pussyfooted NFL players who are like, we're not going to celebrate our victory at the White House.

00:22:55.740 Oh, grow up. Give the nations a moment of unity and something to feel good about.

00:23:01.680 These guys get it. They totally.

00:23:05.300 These aren't all Republicans. I'm sure there are a lot of Democrats on this team.

00:23:08.760 We're in. We'll be there.

00:23:10.960 They know that the nation needs this, that we want to feel exactly what you know we're going to feel when we see the camera cut to those guys at tomorrow's State of the Union, that it's not about left.

00:23:23.720 It's not about right. It's not about blue. It's not about red.

00:23:27.160 It's about the United States of America and what it means to be an American, to be a fighter, to have freedom in your blood.

00:23:36.420 Like those guys, we're in. Yes, we're in. Thank you. Thank you for that men's hockey team.

00:23:44.500 Drinking the beers, having fun. Jack Hughes, our hero, was asked to describe how he felt.

00:23:51.320 And this is this is right after they won. It was like the greatest post victory interview ever given.

00:23:59.620 We were watching it live. You probably were, too. It was maybe 90 seconds total.

00:24:05.140 Incredible. Like for this guy to have the peace of mind to you watch and then we'll talk about it.

00:24:10.760 But just to articulate exactly what we needed to hear.

00:24:14.380 And instead of taking any, any glory for himself, well earned, he scored the winning goal.

00:24:21.260 He said this.

00:24:23.120 The first gold medal for the United States in 46 years and you delivered it.

00:24:27.880 Can you just describe the emotions of this moment right now?

00:24:30.580 This is all this is all about our country right now.

00:24:33.300 I love the USA. I love my teammates.

00:24:36.680 It's unbelievable. The USA Hockey Brotherhood is so strong.

00:24:40.760 And we had so much support from ex-players. I'm so proud to be American today.

00:24:46.060 This was such an incredible game to grind out.

00:24:50.140 I mean, you're bleeding right through it just looking at you right now.

00:24:53.060 Can you just talk about how difficult this gold medal was to win?

00:24:56.740 Unbelievable game by Hellebuck.

00:24:58.580 He was our best player tonight by a mile.

00:25:01.020 Unbelievable game.

00:25:02.320 Unreal game by our team.

00:25:04.240 That's just a ballsy, gutsy win.

00:25:06.300 That's American hockey right there.

00:25:07.740 That's a great Canadian team, but we're USA.

00:25:11.080 We're so proud to be Americans.

00:25:12.720 Tonight was all for the country.

00:25:15.460 Doesn't take the credit for himself.

00:25:17.680 Gives it to the goalie, who was incredible.

00:25:21.540 Compliments the Canadians.

00:25:23.620 Compliments his entire team.

00:25:25.400 Uses the words ballsy and gutsy, which some might be too afraid to say.

00:25:29.860 Those are great words and spot on.

00:25:33.000 And all about the patriotism.

00:25:35.220 How proud he is to be an American.

00:25:37.740 How great it is for the USA and Team USA.

00:25:41.080 I mean, it was like perfect.

00:25:43.520 It was perfect.

00:25:45.860 You can't listen and watch all of those moments and not feel something.

00:25:51.600 Not feel proud to be an American.

00:25:53.820 That is unless you work for the Huffington Post, in which case it's very easy, apparently.

00:25:59.600 And they speak for many leftists, so it's not just HuffPo.

00:26:02.740 The outlet putting out an article with the headline and subhead, there's a name for the discomfort you are feeling watching the Olympics right now.

00:26:10.760 If waving the American flag or chanting USA turns you off, you are not alone.

00:26:17.320 I kid you not.

00:26:19.460 My God, how awful would it be to be one of these leftists?

00:26:25.620 You're not joyful.

00:26:27.400 We can see that in the streets of Minneapolis.

00:26:30.080 You're very angry all the time.

00:26:32.220 You're breaking up with family members.

00:26:34.320 You're alienating friends.

00:26:36.260 You're hurting your children.

00:26:38.080 You know, those weird ICE activists lecturing to their children about how bad President Trump was.

00:26:42.080 And you're coming out to a protest.

00:26:43.720 You don't care about fostering joy and wellness in your children or yourself.

00:26:48.780 You only care about your hate for Trump and Republicans.

00:26:52.840 The entire article here is for people who want to cheer on the U.S. but can't because they feel too much shame.

00:26:59.540 From the article, quote, you might worry, why do I want them to win when I'm angry about what the country is doing?

00:27:06.560 The article interviews not one, but three, count them, three therapists on how to handle the trauma.

00:27:16.060 One of the therapists gives this advice, quote, you might need to turn the game off right after a big moment because it suddenly feels all too complicated to keep rooting.

00:27:28.620 Another one laments, quote, as we continue to witness national and global atrocities in real time,

00:27:34.420 it can trigger feelings of guilt, despair, shame, anger.

00:27:40.680 I mean, it's amazing.

00:27:41.700 Like, have you ever felt, like, guilt on behalf of your country or, like, shame?

00:27:47.580 Like, no, that's totally unfamiliar.

00:27:51.420 It writes that it's, quote, typically for people with this cognitive dissonance to feel a weird mix of excitement and discomfort at the same time.

00:28:01.580 It might feel like a tightening in your chest or in your stomach when you realize you're cheering and cringing simultaneously.

00:28:11.740 Okay.

00:28:12.020 I mean, like, these people are absolute loons.

00:28:16.940 I mean, trigger feelings of guilt, despair, and shame.

00:28:19.440 Really, like, truly, among whom?

00:28:21.580 Whom?

00:28:22.180 Like, who is feeling that?

00:28:23.720 The whiplash between pride for the United States competitors and national shame for the federal government.

00:28:29.400 It's common, is it?

00:28:32.840 I mean, like, I guess in their circles, they say the things that are making people feel shameful are Trump's deportation agenda, how it separates families.

00:28:42.100 They detained a five-year-old.

00:28:43.540 They kill unarmed civilians versus American athletes winning medals.

00:28:48.300 That's the whiplash that people are going through, they say.

00:28:51.440 And they go on to say, it can cause this tightness, not just in your neck, but in your shoulder or your jaw areas.

00:29:00.160 Like, you can get lockjaw.

00:29:02.600 Because they'll start talking like this because of the deportations versus the Olympic medals.

00:29:09.060 Or maybe it's just the natural sort of leftist elitism lockjaw.

00:29:16.100 Like, and she stepped on the ball.

00:29:20.560 Sure, like he went to Harvard.

00:29:23.360 Name that movie.

00:29:24.780 Penelope.

00:29:26.060 It can cause digestive issues, they say, and trouble sleeping.

00:29:29.580 Oh, my God, this is going to be really hard.

00:29:31.520 Really hard for people.

00:29:33.420 Here's the thing.

00:29:34.680 They say, you know, you could be feeling this not just because of what Trump is doing, but also because of how our government has actually acted in the hundreds of years since the U.S. was formed.

00:29:48.080 You can never enjoy any moment of Olympic pride, you see, because of what's been going on for the past 250 years.

00:29:55.880 They almost got you there.

00:29:57.160 You saw Jack Hughes, the teeth and the blood and saying all the great things, and you were like, slavery?

00:30:06.360 You were like, the Native Americans?

00:30:09.260 No, it's a no.

00:30:11.460 I feel digestive issues coming on.

00:30:14.800 I mean, it's really crazy.

00:30:15.720 This is written by somebody named, let's see, Monica Torres, senior reporter for HuffPo, who writes about work, life, tech, consumer, and general lifestyle topics.

00:30:25.580 I'll be sure to be reading her in the future.

00:30:28.820 Yeah, it's waving the American flag and chanting USA that can really make you feel, quote, grossed out or ashamed.

00:30:36.300 So they say the solution is you could cheer for individual athletes, maybe especially the ones like the Team USA women's hockey player Kelly Panic.

00:30:46.480 They like Kelly Panic because she's from Minneapolis, and she came out to criticize the ICE policies.

00:30:57.040 Here she is.

00:30:58.420 It's obviously really heavy.

00:31:00.780 What I'm most proud to represent is, you know, the thousands, tens of thousands of people that show up on some of the coldest days of the year to stand and fight for what they believe in.

00:31:09.100 Okay, so that was Kelly before the Olympics, and she was basically out there skating for the left-wing loons who were terrorizing ICE agents in her hometown.

00:31:20.280 Great.

00:31:20.840 She got a gold medal, too, so good for you, Kelly, but we're really not too happy about your messaging, and we don't really like the way you set the table for the headspace for those who are participating in the games.

00:31:33.700 We object.

00:31:34.720 We prefer Jack Hughes a lot to you, but HuffPo wants you to focus on people like Kelly Panic if you're having a difficult time cheering for the athletes.

00:31:46.100 Boo on you, Kelly Panic.

00:31:48.160 But back to the great athletes who we are celebrating, these USA men's hockey players.

00:31:55.320 The goalie.

00:31:56.220 Let's just start with him.

00:31:57.340 Connor Hellebuck.

00:31:58.460 I didn't know.

00:31:59.640 Confession.

00:32:00.200 You know I know nothing about sports, so I learned all this in the past 24 hours.

00:32:03.700 And now I'm ashamed I didn't know more about these guys.

00:32:06.080 I should have.

00:32:06.740 And now I'm going to be paying attention to the NHL.

00:32:10.120 He's 6'4", he's 207 pounds.

00:32:12.860 He's a Michigan native.

00:32:14.360 He was born in 1993, which I think makes him 32, about 32 years old.

00:32:19.900 He stopped, yeah, 41 of 42 shots on goal yesterday.

00:32:25.400 He plays in the NHL for the Winnipeg Jets.

00:32:30.400 He was, he's been in the NHL since 2012.

00:32:35.140 And he, look at that.

00:32:36.360 That's incredible.

00:32:37.080 The goal, the puck went behind him and he still stopped it and whacked it out from behind him before it got into the goal.

00:32:43.440 He was in that little blue area in front of the goal.

00:32:45.980 The puck comes behind his body and he whips it out behind him.

00:32:50.240 In any event, so yeah, he's been playing in the NHL since 2012 and apparently he's a badass and known to be like a brick wall.

00:32:59.140 So not a huge surprise that he did so well here, but I think even his teammates were blown away by how effective he was.

00:33:06.120 He's married to Andrea.

00:33:07.720 By the way, the Canadians had been averaging 5.4 goals per game in the Olympics, 5.4 up against our guys, including Connor Hellebuck in goal.

00:33:21.960 Just one, one little baby goal.

00:33:25.620 And that's why you had Jack Hughes after the fact saying our, our, our goalie like outplayed everybody by a mile.

00:33:33.200 It was incredible.

00:33:34.920 And speaking of Jack Hughes, okay, who is this American darling, right?

00:33:40.380 He's like an all American boy and the million dollar smile made all the more attractive by having lost all of his teeth and bleeding.

00:33:48.980 Like, it just like, it's so tough.

00:33:50.720 It's so cool, right?

00:33:52.040 It's like those teeth will be fixed.

00:33:53.720 And he was celebrating American dentistry later.

00:33:55.960 In fact, we have that.

00:33:56.780 Let's listen to Sat 14.

00:33:59.760 I'm lucky I'm from the best country in the world.

00:34:01.800 We got great dentists there too.

00:34:03.620 So I'm lucky I'm American and they're going to fix me right up.

00:34:07.320 Standing there listening to the anthem, what's going through your head?

00:34:10.340 Just so proud.

00:34:11.320 I'm so proud to be American.

00:34:12.920 I'm so proud of this group.

00:34:14.340 I'm so happy that we could win.

00:34:16.960 You know, we have so many ex-players, ex-Olympians.

00:34:20.620 All the guys we looked up to reached out to us.

00:34:23.560 We got their notes on the wall in the locker room and they sent some unbelievable messages.

00:34:27.580 Stuff that, you know, puts tears in your eyes, honestly, because it means so much to them.

00:34:32.460 It means so much to us.

00:34:33.500 And the next batch of kids in the next 20 years, it's going to mean so much to them.

00:34:37.300 So that's why we do this.

00:34:38.980 The USA Hockey Brotherhood is so strong.

00:34:42.080 We're so proud that we could do it for them.

00:34:44.180 We're so proud we could do it for everyone back home.

00:34:46.000 I mean, just spot on with humor about the dentistry.

00:34:49.980 By the way, he was talking about the ex-players, rooting them on.

00:34:53.160 Michael Ruzzioni, we mentioned before, he wasn't the only one.

00:34:55.600 But he was there in the aftermath of the celebration in this great video posted on social media

00:35:00.700 on Team USA's Dylan Larkin's shoulders.

00:35:03.460 Watch this, not 17.

00:35:04.520 USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.

00:35:16.940 Okay, they're feeling no pain.

00:35:19.600 Even Dylan Larkin, who's clearly carrying a slightly larger Michael Ruzzioni than he was during his hockey days,

00:35:28.860 the peak of his hockey days, and no one doing anything other than treasuring the moment.

00:35:34.000 So back to Jack.

00:35:35.980 I mentioned he's got a brother.

00:35:38.200 Okay, so wait, wait.

00:35:39.120 He was, okay, he was born in 2001.

00:35:44.180 OMG.

00:35:45.240 2001.

00:35:46.240 He's a baby.

00:35:47.380 He is a captain on the New Jersey Devils in the NHL.

00:35:52.800 He was, he started his life in Orlando, Florida, then spent several years in Toronto, then moved to Michigan for high school.

00:36:01.480 His older brother, Quinn, was drafted seventh overall in 2018 into the NHL by Vancouver.

00:36:08.280 His younger brother, Luke, was drafted fourth overall by the New Jersey Devils in 2021, and that older brother, Quinn, was on the team, too.

00:36:16.260 There they are with the flag draped around them celebrating, but Jack has been known to be a huge star.

00:36:24.320 Everybody understood that he was incredible and that he could easily, I think he went first in the draft.

00:36:30.380 So he has clearly got some special gifts.

00:36:33.420 Now, he is dating.

00:36:34.960 He's dating a Canadian singer, reportedly, not confirmed, by the name of Tate McRae, who's an influencer and a singer as he's playing.

00:36:43.580 Well, he's playing for the New Jersey Devils, but he spent some time in Toronto, as I mentioned.

00:36:47.680 And both parents, it's not a surprise all three of these boys wound up in the NHL, both parents are huge hockey players.

00:36:54.900 The dad played for Providence in college, and he was an assistant coach for the Boston Bruins, and then also helped out on some Canadian team.

00:37:03.600 I can't remember the name of it.

00:37:04.820 The mom was on the 1992 women's national team here in America and won silver at the 1992 World Championships.

00:37:15.660 So they're both incredibly into hockey.

00:37:19.360 It's so great.

00:37:20.020 This is a salt-of-the-earth American family.

00:37:21.960 You know, you don't make tons of dough working in coaching positions.

00:37:26.780 Here's Jack being carried through the Olympic Village by his teammates.

00:37:30.780 But they just love the sport.

00:37:32.220 I mean, they're all about the hockey, like so many of these teams that we've watched, you know, so many of these families that we've come to love.

00:37:40.400 And this boy was destined for this moment.

00:37:43.200 And he said before the games, my goal, my dream would be to score the golden goal, which is the one, the game winner.

00:37:50.000 As he said, that was his dream.

00:37:51.180 And sure enough, guys, he did it.

00:37:53.880 I mean, a dream come true for Jack Hughes and all of our guys.

00:37:59.100 And then there was the tribute to Johnny Goudreau.

00:38:04.080 Okay, just when you didn't think these guys could give you any more emotional moments, they did.

00:38:10.220 Because not only are these tough as nails hockey players who can smile through broken teeth and bloody faces, a stick to the mouth.

00:38:18.740 I mean, think about it.

00:38:19.420 Like, we're just kind of passing it.

00:38:20.400 Like, imagine, people, if you got, if somebody came up to you on the street and slammed you in the face with a hockey stick, I would be, I'd be in the hospital for a month.

00:38:29.780 Half for the physical recovery and the other half for the emotional.

00:38:33.540 This guy went on to skate and score the game-winning goal and smiled through the whole thing and just expressed his gratitude.

00:38:40.260 Okay, but these guys not only are tough as nails, and you see them knocking each other around on the ice, like, not a phrase of physicality or fights or any of that stuff, but they have a heart.

00:38:51.420 They're gentle, actually, underneath all that toughness.

00:38:54.680 And when the game was over, well, let me go back, one of the guys who was in the NHL, and they all know each other, these guys, a lot of them went to high school together and then trained in our sort of prep league for the NHL, and then wind up playing on different teams with each other.

00:39:12.320 So it's a tight-knit community.

00:39:14.480 But back in 2024, Johnny Goudreau died in August of 2024.

00:39:20.840 And he was very much expected to make it on this team, and in fact, the coach of this team wound up telling his parents he was going to draft Johnny, who's here in the Boston shirt on the right, with his brother, shown there, Matty, or Matthew.

00:39:38.560 So he was going to make this team.

00:39:40.700 He was destined for this team, and the guys knew it.

00:39:42.700 And the reason Johnny is not on this team is because in August of 2024, he and his brother, Matty, were home for their sister's wedding, and they were riding their bikes, and both were struck and killed by the same allegedly drunk driver.

00:40:02.920 Johnny was 31, Matty, and both of them had wives who were pregnant at the time they were killed.

00:40:14.200 It was just absolutely devastating.

00:40:17.140 It was the day before their sister's wedding that they were killed.

00:40:20.980 They were riding their bikes on the right sort of shoulder of the road.

00:40:25.100 There were two cars coming their way, and a third by the defendant, in this case, driver Sean Higgins.

00:40:34.580 And Sean Higgins allegedly thought the two cars in front of him were going too slow.

00:40:38.900 And when the two cars got to the two bikers and did what we all do when we hit bikers on the—not hit, but come up to bikers on the road, they went a little bit more towards the left, towards the middle lane, you know, the dividing lane, to give the bikers room so that you don't hit the biker when you go around him.

00:40:58.520 This guy, Sean Higgins, allegedly saw an opportunity to get past them, so he tried to pass them on the right and ran over Johnny and Matty, two incredibly wonderful, by all accounts, young men, just there to celebrate their sister's wedding and killed them both, and then also left the scene of the accident, say police.

00:41:22.120 They allege that he blew a .087, there's a .08 limit on blood alcohol content.

00:41:32.320 He admitted to having supposedly five or six beers, and as you well know, in that situation, if you're going to admit to five or six, you probably had well more.

00:41:41.120 He'd been drinking all day.

00:41:42.420 And now he's charged, he's 44, with aggravated manslaughter, with reckless vehicular homicide, and with leaving the scene of an accident.

00:41:53.420 And it's been going through emotion practice.

00:41:57.000 His defense attorneys tried to exclude his admission to the cops about the beers, and the judge said, no, that's staying in.

00:42:04.400 They said he wasn't read his Miranda rights, and therefore it should come out.

00:42:06.780 The judge said it's staying in.

00:42:07.980 They tried to immediately appeal it.

00:42:10.160 But the court said, no, they don't favor those piecemeal appeals.

00:42:14.560 You got to, like, let the whole thing play out.

00:42:16.120 Then you can file your big appeal when you lose, which you likely will.

00:42:20.280 And those two guys senselessly were taken while they had young wives.

00:42:27.540 They had young children.

00:42:32.080 Jane and Guy, their parents, were at the games to watch this team.

00:42:37.980 And you could tell who they were immediately when they showed a shot of the crowd, because they clapped and they stood for every big moment.

00:42:47.200 But they had a tough time smiling.

00:42:50.240 Oh, how could it be any other way?

00:42:54.800 You could see that they looked pained.

00:42:57.720 You know, it was bittersweet for them.

00:42:59.940 But they showed up.

00:43:01.000 I mean, it's amazing that they showed up.

00:43:03.180 They flew to Milan, and they sat with the other parents, and they cheered these guys every step of the way.

00:43:10.840 Meredith was married to Johnny.

00:43:13.320 Madeline was married to Maddie.

00:43:16.280 Meredith and Johnny had two kids, Noah, a girl, and Johnny Jr.

00:43:20.980 She was pregnant with another boy, baby Carter, when he was killed.

00:43:26.900 Madeline, who was married to Maddie, was also pregnant.

00:43:30.240 She gave birth to their first child after Maddie was killed, a little boy named Tripp.

00:43:35.620 She could barely get through an interview I saw of her on Good Morning America saying,

00:43:39.120 it was really Maddie who wanted kids so badly.

00:43:42.220 He was just dying to be a dad.

00:43:43.660 And both of the moms talking about taking the kids to the hockey rink,

00:43:49.600 Maddie or Madeline talking about how it's tough for her to take the little baby there

00:43:54.460 because it was Maddie's dream to take him, you know, to have a boy,

00:43:59.040 to take him to the hockey rink and bring him up in their family Goudreau tradition of teaching his son how to play.

00:44:06.760 Now these two young, beautiful moms, widowed, far too young, raising these kids on their own.

00:44:12.560 And these men of USA Hockey did not forget Johnny Hockey or Johnny Goudreau, who was going to make the team.

00:44:21.240 They have been traveling with his jersey, number 13, throughout the Olympic Games, hanging it in the locker room.

00:44:27.540 And then after they won, they took his jersey, these two guys, including the one I mentioned who got the assist

00:44:35.260 and skated Zach Wierenski, who was also a Blue Jacket, just like Johnny was,

00:44:44.400 and skated out on the ice holding Johnny's son, Johnny Jr. and little Noah, his girl,

00:44:53.520 for the photo with the rest of the team.

00:44:59.220 Watch.

00:44:59.440 All right, there they are paying homage to the late Johnny Goudreau.

00:45:05.520 And there's Mr. and Mrs. Goudreau.

00:45:11.900 Johnny meant so much to a lot of these guys on this team.

00:45:15.320 And I live in the Philadelphia area, and I can tell you that Johnny Goudreau is an absolute hero

00:45:21.340 in the Philadelphia area, in South Jersey in particular.

00:45:24.960 So many kids look up to Johnny Goudreau and model their game after him.

00:45:32.780 What a moment.

00:45:36.240 Really incredible.

00:45:37.740 And bringing the two kids out there.

00:45:39.880 It was so sweet, too.

00:45:41.060 These hockey players, it's like being on ice is like being on land to them.

00:45:46.060 There's no chance of, like, falling because they took little Noah and they took little Johnny,

00:45:50.300 who are just, I think, three and two, respectively.

00:45:52.700 And just get, like, of course, the moms handed them over.

00:45:54.980 And there they are skating in all their gear across the ice, like, plopping down.

00:45:58.880 They make it look so easy.

00:46:00.680 You know, it's just like our figure skaters.

00:46:02.360 They make it look like you could do it.

00:46:04.340 Don't they?

00:46:05.260 Like you could actually do it.

00:46:07.440 And the kids smiled for the camera.

00:46:09.200 And what a moment.

00:46:10.020 So these are sentimental tough guys, which is tough to resist, right?

00:46:15.860 And they're our boys, and they made us proud.

00:46:18.860 And I cannot wait to see them tomorrow night at the State of the Union.

00:46:22.700 I really hope Jack has not gotten his teeth fixed yet, or at least a prosthetic by then,

00:46:29.000 because there's something very charming about his face the way it is right now.

00:46:33.260 And I think they're going to be treasured forever, just in the same way the Miracle on Ice guys are.

00:46:38.660 Speaking of Alyssa Liu, she gave an interview to 60 Minutes.

00:46:45.260 And boy, oh boy, what an example she is to young people worldwide,

00:46:51.440 the ones who want to obsess over this disorder or that disorder and run to their safe spaces

00:46:56.540 because they can't take tough conversations because there's too much trauma

00:47:00.520 or want to lecture you about their generational trauma if there's nothing wrong with their own life.

00:47:06.260 Alyssa Liu sees things very differently.

00:47:08.660 Listen to her.

00:47:10.120 This is actually an interview she gave in January of 2026 in Stop 21.

00:47:14.960 Her attachment to her coaches can be literal.

00:47:18.300 This harness and what looks like a fishing pole help reel her in before she falls.

00:47:25.420 But eventually, they have to let her go.

00:47:29.020 No.

00:47:30.440 Nah.

00:47:31.040 This is what it takes to become a champion.

00:47:37.320 Constant pounding.

00:47:38.440 I'm so tired.

00:47:40.300 In pursuit of perfection.

00:47:42.400 One more.

00:47:43.220 I saw that when you were training and they're like, okay, that's good.

00:47:46.120 And you're like, one more.

00:47:46.960 Yeah.

00:47:47.100 One more.

00:47:47.860 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:48.220 You don't need somebody pushing you.

00:47:49.720 No, I have my own, like, determination.

00:47:51.980 My determination's, like, up there.

00:47:54.680 You're pretty scrappy.

00:47:55.840 I love struggling, actually.

00:47:58.480 You do.

00:47:58.980 It makes me feel alive.

00:48:01.040 I love struggling.

00:48:03.260 It makes me feel alive.

00:48:05.660 Oh.

00:48:06.040 I love that so much, and I can relate to that personally, and that is the message that her

00:48:12.900 generation needs to hear.

00:48:14.320 That's what produces this, the gold medal performance at the Olympic Games.

00:48:19.440 That's what differentiates Alyssa Liu from everyone else, virtually everyone else.

00:48:26.260 That's what allows her to go out there and say, now it's my turn to shine.

00:48:31.120 I did the struggle.

00:48:32.480 I embraced it.

00:48:33.320 It made me who I am today, and I can go out there and skate with abandon, because through

00:48:38.820 all that struggle, I became a superhero.

00:48:43.480 I'm a superhero on skates, and I want only the chance to show you how.

00:48:49.420 Let me exhibit for you.

00:48:51.860 Let me prove it to you, and I have the confidence to know I can, because I did do the extra jumps

00:48:57.580 and the falls, and didn't run to the safe spaces, and didn't cry.

00:49:01.660 Poor me.

00:49:02.120 And though I'm human, I had a struggle where I left the sport for two years because it

00:49:08.020 was too much, and it was on someone else's terms.

00:49:10.540 I came back and reinvented myself on my own.

00:49:14.620 That's what makes a champion.

00:49:16.820 I'm not done.

00:49:17.920 Got a couple more to go through.

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00:50:38.440 So much to get to today.

00:50:39.960 I just want to finish up a word on the women's ice skating, okay?

00:50:44.600 Because Alyssa Liu made us all proud.

00:50:46.520 She's a heroine.

00:50:48.060 We're all celebrating and cheering for her.

00:50:51.160 But it was very interesting.

00:50:52.560 I mean, part of what, we talked about this on Friday, made her so special was her style.

00:50:57.080 You know, she skated with abandon.

00:50:59.200 She had fun.

00:51:00.520 She wasn't all square edges.

00:51:03.280 You know, she looked and felt different than any other skater that we're used to seeing.

00:51:08.420 And it was very obvious.

00:51:10.820 Like, if you compared her to the woman from South Korea who got the silver medal, who skated beautifully, she wasn't quite as perfect as Alyssa, so she came in second.

00:51:20.560 But on any other night, this person probably could have won gold, too, because she was spectacular.

00:51:24.800 But the style was much more, I thought, in the traditional female ice skating vein.

00:51:31.260 Her name is Corey Sakamoto.

00:51:33.820 Here's just a bit of how she looked the other night in her freestyle skate performance, SOT 22.

00:51:40.720 Here's just a bit of how she looked the other night in her freestyle skate performance.

00:52:10.720 She was wonderful.

00:52:31.740 The third place finisher was wonderful.

00:52:34.360 But there was something about Alyssa that just had the world on its heels.

00:52:39.840 It was like a party that we were invited to.

00:52:44.600 And I really think this could be the beginning of something for women's figure skating.

00:52:48.280 You know, this could really inspire young girls to get into this sport in a way the more pristine, traditional performances have not.

00:52:56.720 She made it look fun.

00:52:58.780 And, you know, you're thinking about it like a break your back and your bones and falling on the ice all day long in the freezing cold arenas while you practice.

00:53:05.740 It's like, it doesn't sound all that great.

00:53:07.780 But you look at Alyssa Liu and you think, maybe it is.

00:53:10.280 Maybe if I could have fun with it.

00:53:11.360 Maybe, like, skating across the ice, like, it looks like flying.

00:53:14.680 If I can do that while joyful, while skating the music of my choosing and not just the traditional Andrea Bocelli, whatever, you know, arias, that would be amazing.

00:53:25.620 And it reminded me, this is the first time we've won this medal, the women's gold, since Sarah Hughes 20 plus years ago.

00:53:36.300 I think it was 2002, Sarah won.

00:53:38.720 It actually got me going down the rabbit hole.

00:53:40.940 Yeah, it was the 2002 Winter Olympics that Sarah Hughes won.

00:53:43.960 She was there.

00:53:44.660 She was sitting in the audience watching.

00:53:46.540 And so I vaguely recalled that it was a big deal when she won.

00:53:51.580 And we pulled a little bit of it.

00:53:53.020 And it's just, it's so interesting to watch the skate back then.

00:53:55.980 We've changed a lot.

00:53:57.500 Some things are the same, but look at this, SOT 23.

00:53:59.740 SOT 23.

00:54:30.740 The triple flip.

00:54:40.600 Triple toe.

00:54:42.320 Triple win.

00:54:42.980 Yes.

00:54:48.160 That was amazing.

00:54:55.140 She was only 16 years old in that performance.

00:54:58.540 I, for one, miss the Scott Hamilton commentary.

00:55:01.720 I miss his exciting endings to the way he says the moves.

00:55:06.660 He really, like, had a way of making it more exciting.

00:55:09.400 And I, I mean, he was there.

00:55:11.560 There were pictures of him at the game, but I don't think he was the commentator when Alyssa

00:55:16.540 won.

00:55:16.880 But look at Alyssa's, just a reminder of how she skated versus how Sarah skated, how the

00:55:21.500 number two, Kaori skated watch.

00:55:23.880 You took me out of control.

00:55:29.220 You took me out of control.

00:55:31.460 I, I don't want her but I don't want her.

00:55:39.560 I love her.

00:55:44.220 And she flips the hair.

00:56:06.020 Has Alyssa Lu just ended America's medal drought in the women's competition?

00:56:18.020 What are you talking about?

00:56:23.060 She swears what we're all talking about.

00:56:31.200 Going crazy, hugging her coaches.

00:56:33.560 And you can see the difference, can't you?

00:56:37.040 Like there's just something, she skated with abandon.

00:56:41.500 So I feel so uplifted by it.

00:56:44.040 I mean, like who skates to Donna Summer?

00:56:46.640 Yes, that's the way to do it.

00:56:49.520 Pick some 70s anthem and wear a gold spangly outfit and go to town.

00:56:55.740 Anyway, I think this Olympics was great.

00:56:57.640 It was great for Team USA, for young girls who are considering figure skating or hockey,

00:57:02.500 for young boys who are considering hockey in particular.

00:57:06.440 But yeah, all of it, you know, skiing and beyond.

00:57:09.080 All that, like the crazy jumps that these guys were doing, that new sport where they're doing

00:57:13.500 the cross country uphill.

00:57:16.160 There were some interesting new offerings.

00:57:18.760 All the, I mean, the biggest losers, I think, of the games were the Canadians.

00:57:22.320 Not only did they lose to our teams in the finals of men's and women's hockey, which is

00:57:26.120 incredibly important to the Canadians, but all the cheating and curling, I don't care

00:57:31.840 what the end result was.

00:57:32.920 They cheated.

00:57:34.140 We all saw it.

00:57:35.200 We saw you, sir.

00:57:36.820 And we're going to look at them as cheaters from now on.

00:57:40.400 Sorry, but we are.

00:57:41.620 And then the bad sporting of the Canadian guy after the fact, who was like in hockey, you

00:57:47.880 know, you watch and you tell me who was the better team today.

00:57:51.040 We were.

00:57:51.900 Our boys.

00:57:53.100 They beat you.

00:57:54.400 How can he say you were better when you lost?

00:57:56.460 That's not how that works.

00:57:58.200 You may have had overall stronger skating or better, I don't know, attempts at scoring.

00:58:06.240 But like when it came to actual scoring and actual defending, we were better.

00:58:10.900 The scoreboard doesn't lie.

00:58:12.880 Now they're bitching and moaning about the fact that in sudden death overtime, it's three

00:58:16.680 on three.

00:58:17.220 Well, that's not really skating.

00:58:18.440 Not the Canadians in particular on the team, but those who are their big supporters.

00:58:23.380 And I don't know anything about hockey, but all the guys on our side are saying you were

00:58:27.680 fine with it when you advanced, thanks to the sudden death overtime in your earlier rounds,

00:58:32.260 Canada.

00:58:32.660 You won in sudden death overtime in the semifinal, I guess.

00:58:36.620 So like, is it only a problem now that you're on the losing end of it?

00:58:41.380 Because these are the rules.

00:58:42.800 Uh, so in any event, they were the big losers and the United States of America were the

00:58:47.800 big winners and Norway too.

00:58:49.860 Norway basically won the games with the most medals and the most gold medals.

00:58:53.940 I mean, this is like, if you've been to Norway, it's basically winter for 11 months of the

00:58:58.700 year and it's, they're very outdoorsy.

00:59:01.700 They're very sporty.

00:59:02.800 They feel no cold.

00:59:04.620 Nobody wears a jacket anywhere.

00:59:06.100 So this is kind of their thing.

00:59:07.760 We do better at the summer Olympics, but we crushed, we did so well.

00:59:10.480 And I think what was so great about, about our wins was it just, it, they were triumphant.

00:59:17.300 They were, they were spectacular.

00:59:18.600 They were big.

00:59:19.220 They were in like some really like the seminal defining events of the winter Olympics.

00:59:24.620 So, and we needed it.

00:59:26.460 We needed it.

00:59:27.560 Notwithstanding what HuffPost says, we needed the chance to throw our arms around each other

00:59:30.720 and celebrate America.

00:59:33.280 And by the way, something else I've noticed is everyone is celebrating these hockey players

00:59:38.020 and Alyssa Liu and others like her, even though we don't care.

00:59:42.040 Everybody's the left is like, she's a liberal.

00:59:43.680 She's from San Francisco.

00:59:44.780 She doesn't share any of your values.

00:59:46.340 You know what value I share with Alyssa Liu?

00:59:48.120 She loves America.

00:59:49.980 That's enough.

00:59:51.600 I, normal people don't actually ask themselves at all what the politics are of the athletes

00:59:58.140 performing for their country in the Olympic games.

01:00:00.220 Only these asshole journalists who stuck the mics in the faces of some of these young athletes

01:00:05.220 and tried to get them to opine really cared and caused controversy for those athletes that

01:00:10.500 they didn't, that they didn't want, that they weren't courting.

01:00:13.820 And some of them were too immature to know, to get out of bounds instead of to answer the

01:00:18.060 question.

01:00:19.200 I think it really did cost Amber Glenn, the ice skater who was favored.

01:00:24.180 She wound up coming in 13th, nowhere near Alyssa.

01:00:27.020 Um, I think it wound up costing Hunter Hess, who wound up 10th.

01:00:32.600 Uh, Amber had to delete her social media, you know, Hunter Hess, uh, even Eileen Gu was

01:00:37.780 a different story.

01:00:38.460 She wasn't ripping on America.

01:00:39.500 She just was American and then chose to skate for the Chinese ski, keep doing that ski for

01:00:45.440 the Chinese because they threw money at her.

01:00:47.700 Unlike Alyssa, who could have had those same opportunities and said, no, oh, hell no.

01:00:52.460 And now the left too on Alyssa Liu, they're like, oh, they're so hypocritical.

01:00:55.420 They're, they're celebrating her, even though she's an immigrant, she's an immigrant.

01:00:58.880 Okay.

01:00:59.060 She's not an immigrant.

01:01:00.240 She was born in California.

01:01:02.540 Pretty sure that makes you an American.

01:01:04.480 This whole Supreme court case saying that if you were born in the United States, you're

01:01:08.540 an American, um, going up right now on birthright citizenship.

01:01:13.340 But her dad was an immigrant.

01:01:16.080 Her dad came over here from China.

01:01:17.940 So I guess we're supposed to not root for Alyssa Liu.

01:01:20.360 The left says, oh, if you don't want immigrants coming across the border with abandon with, with

01:01:24.640 absolutely no restrictions, it's hypocritical to root for the daughter of an immigrant.

01:01:28.400 This is so effed up, crazy leftist logic.

01:01:33.080 Here is, he's a leftist too.

01:01:35.460 This guy, Pablo Torre, he goes on Morning Joe and take a listen to how the exchange went

01:01:40.380 here in Sot 20.

01:01:42.020 But finally we get to the Olympics and in the Olympics, look, the thing I marvel at, not

01:01:47.280 only is the way that, oh, wait a minute.

01:01:48.620 Maybe there's the possibility of a global village in some capacity still.

01:01:52.040 When I watch these games, maybe there's the capacity for us to celebrate American dominance

01:01:57.000 in a way that feels genuine as opposed to, you know, uh, a series of lies to prop up a

01:02:02.820 certain administration.

01:02:03.480 How hilarious, uh, that, uh, the sort of MAGA online MAGA world were celebrating, uh, Alyssa

01:02:13.320 Liu's gold medal without a hint of any irony celebrating the immigrant, uh, who, who, who,

01:02:22.820 who they were celebrating as an American, you know, USA, USA, which of course that's, that's

01:02:30.420 basically proving the point that we've been making all along that Ronald Reagan made in

01:02:34.580 his final speech to America, that we are strengthened by immigrants.

01:02:40.440 Oh my God.

01:02:41.560 Uh, yes.

01:02:42.260 They, you know, they, they, they, they, they're celebrating this, you know, hold on, hold on,

01:02:47.520 we're supposed to hate this, but we can't hate it because USA, USA.

01:02:52.340 It's unbelievable.

01:02:54.740 Uh, Alyssa Liu is American.

01:02:57.400 Okay.

01:02:58.060 She's American.

01:02:58.920 And of all the people protesting Joe Biden's four years of an open border, I don't hear

01:03:05.840 anyone saying, and all the immigration we've ever had was wrong.

01:03:09.860 I mean, we just played a soundbite last week of Hillary Clinton on camera saying it, it went

01:03:15.440 too far under Joe Biden.

01:03:17.780 There were not enough limits.

01:03:19.760 And remember we mocked her for remaining silent while it was happening.

01:03:23.860 That's what Americans are upset about.

01:03:25.360 We, most Americans, including those on the right, have never been opposed to all immigration,

01:03:30.540 no matter what, especially preceding the Joe Biden years.

01:03:33.500 It's because of what he did that most of us sane Americans are saying, now we need the

01:03:38.500 brakes on.

01:03:39.060 Sorry, we went too far.

01:03:40.760 We can't support all of these illegal, illegal immigrants who rushed the country.

01:03:46.280 They have no right to be here.

01:03:48.160 They're trying to change our culture.

01:03:49.580 They need to go home.

01:03:50.460 This is such a straw man misrepresentation of how conservatives actually feel.

01:03:54.920 But what else would you expect from that crew on Morning Joe?

01:03:58.180 In any event, suck it because the rest of us are super happy.

01:04:01.800 We're thrilled at the big wins.

01:04:03.300 And we are celebrating our athletes, irrespective of politics.

01:04:06.820 The only ones who got blowback were the ones who chose to shove their politics down our

01:04:12.140 throats when they suggested it was tough for them to root for the country whose flag they

01:04:18.360 had on their uniform.

01:04:20.020 That's a hard no.

01:04:21.560 So hopefully they've learned.

01:04:23.080 And the next time they will go out there and say, I'm here representing the country and

01:04:27.560 I'm not a politician.

01:04:28.340 I'm an athlete.

01:04:29.260 I'm going to stay in my lane.

01:04:30.440 That's it.

01:04:31.080 That's all you have to do.

01:04:32.020 Um, in a perfect world, you will be like Jack Hughes and then we will really celebrate

01:04:37.320 you.

01:04:37.700 That's how do you get, how you get yourself on the cover of a cereal box or representing

01:04:41.860 a soda or a sneaker or an ice hockey skate, uh, celebrations of team USA.

01:04:49.060 God bless them.

01:04:50.200 We're proud of them.

01:04:51.040 Okay.

01:04:51.520 I want to keep going because there's a lot of news.

01:04:53.680 Speaking of the lunatic left, Gavin Newsom, uh, went to an event in Georgia.

01:05:01.800 It was in Atlanta, Georgia, an evening with Gavin Newsom and he was promoting his new

01:05:07.020 memoir, young man in a hurry.

01:05:08.720 This is the one where he tries to claim he was poor and he grew up eating mac and cheese

01:05:12.840 and like the son of a single mom, even though there are whole articles of him, like spreads

01:05:17.680 of the young and rich.

01:05:18.940 And he's hanging out with the Gettys and they gave him, I think millions of dollars over

01:05:23.700 the years.

01:05:24.200 They helped pay for his wedding and the last, like he's basically a Getti by adoption, but

01:05:28.260 he wants you to believe that he's hard scrabble.

01:05:30.400 He had it really tough.

01:05:31.420 Well, boy, did he step in it.

01:05:34.260 The interview was conducted by the mayor down there, Andrew Dickens, who is black.

01:05:37.920 And the crowd was largely black, but also mixed, wasn't all black, was just mostly black.

01:05:43.840 And, um, the following exchange happened that Gavin Newsom is desperately trying to clean

01:05:48.720 up from right now.

01:05:50.540 Watch.

01:05:51.420 I'm not trying to impress you.

01:05:53.320 I'm just trying to impress upon you.

01:05:55.420 I'm like you.

01:05:57.560 I'm no better than you.

01:05:59.420 You know, I'm a 960 SAT guy and, you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone, you know,

01:06:08.040 trying to act all there.

01:06:09.300 If you got 940, but literally a 960 SAT guy, I cannot, you, you've never seen me read a speech

01:06:19.560 because I cannot read a speech.

01:06:24.000 Unbelievable.

01:06:24.520 I mean, very obvious in its racism, sitting in front of a predominantly black audience

01:06:30.960 saying, I'm like you, I can't read.

01:06:34.960 And I got a 960 on the SAT.

01:06:37.420 What the F?

01:06:41.260 That's what it's like to relate to black people.

01:06:44.300 You're dumb.

01:06:46.720 You, you bomb tests and you cannot read.

01:06:50.700 That is unbelievable.

01:06:51.980 That's actually what he said.

01:06:54.520 Like you kind of can't believe it until you hear it outright.

01:06:58.440 Well, this is making the rounds everywhere on X today, not in the mainstream legacy press,

01:07:04.240 of course, because he's their golden boy.

01:07:05.780 They have to preserve him going into 2028.

01:07:08.460 But because this is going everywhere, including Sean Hannity tweeted it out saying Gavin Newsom

01:07:15.900 thinks a 960 SAT makes him like black Americans.

01:07:18.920 Let that sink in.

01:07:19.920 Here, Newsom reposts it and responds to it today with the following caption.

01:07:25.380 You didn't give a shit about the president of the United States of America posting an ape video of President Obama

01:07:31.780 or calling African nations shitholes.

01:07:34.380 But you're going to call me racist for talking about my lifelong struggle with dyslexia.

01:07:39.600 Spare me your fake fucking outrage, Sean.

01:07:42.660 Now, you know, you know, he's on his heels when he's talking like that.

01:07:47.540 He's a bit unhinged.

01:07:49.200 He's scrambling because he knows it's bad and he's a Democrat and he absolutely needs every single last black voter he can get.

01:07:57.580 Here's Nicki Minaj, who, as you know, is I think newly Republican is fair to say, although I don't know for sure if she's been voting Republican,

01:08:04.780 but certainly a Trump fan and newly outed herself.

01:08:08.600 This is what she says.

01:08:09.920 She posted on X, quote, his way of bonding with black people is to tell them how stupid he is and that he can't read.

01:08:17.680 This means my first read on him was correct.

01:08:19.640 He's been handed so many things and put in high positions he never earned or deserved.

01:08:23.960 Do you want to know the craziest part of this footage that will haunt him forever?

01:08:26.780 She writes, he's literally slowing his speech down and talking in a sporadic cadence.

01:08:32.480 He's not just telling them that they're all probably stupid and probably can't read.

01:08:37.540 He's literally slowing down his speech to make them understand the words that are coming out of his mouth as if they're children.

01:08:45.300 That means he really believes they're slow.

01:08:48.100 He's not just saying it.

01:08:49.580 He didn't misspeak.

01:08:51.020 He believes it.

01:08:52.200 Do you love it?

01:08:53.260 Do you just love it, black people?

01:08:55.180 And that is why you have the Gavin Newsom dissembling response to Sean, because he's scared.

01:09:03.580 And while he is now sort of being like, what do you mean?

01:09:06.160 I'm just talking about my dyslexia.

01:09:07.500 There's nothing controversial about this.

01:09:09.220 He is sharing lots of clips from that event.

01:09:12.980 Guess which one he's not sharing?

01:09:15.020 Yeah, you guessed it.

01:09:16.980 He's not.

01:09:17.440 That he knows what he did, and he's scared because he said what he really means.

01:09:25.660 That black people are dumb, they can't score well on the SAT, and they cannot read.

01:09:31.260 He tried to soften it by saying, I'm like that too.

01:09:34.660 But just like the presumption.

01:09:37.080 Can you imagine?

01:09:38.580 Seriously, like, imagine, like, I don't know, like, Jason Whitlock sitting there listening to this.

01:09:45.560 Imagine Thomas Sowell in the audience.

01:09:48.040 You know, like, any of these, like, black intellectuals, right?

01:09:52.680 Like, sitting there like, wait, what?

01:09:54.880 Imagine Shelby and Eli Steele sitting there.

01:09:57.480 What?

01:09:58.560 Like, you're like me because you're dumb?

01:10:02.100 Because you can't read?

01:10:03.520 Go fuck yourself.

01:10:05.220 I mean, it's unbelievably offensive.

01:10:07.400 And that business about Sean, you didn't call out the president on his racist tweet.

01:10:12.480 You know, the president of the United States posting an ape video of President Obama.

01:10:18.080 Okay, we addressed that on this show, on AM Update.

01:10:21.660 That's not what happened.

01:10:23.160 The president tweeted out a video speaking of election irregularities and election fraud.

01:10:30.140 And what had happened with that video was it auto-played into a video that did depict the Obamas as apes and other Democrats as animals and Trump as king of the jungle, like the lion.

01:10:43.200 And there's no question portraying any black person, the Obamas or anybody else, as an ape is racist.

01:10:53.980 I'm sorry, it just, you can't, you just can't do it.

01:10:56.760 There's a history, you don't.

01:10:58.400 Everybody knows that.

01:10:59.200 Whoever made that video definitely did a racist thing.

01:11:01.620 But what happened with Trump was whoever posted his election integrity video didn't realize that the auto-play had been stuck on the tail end of it, just a couple seconds of it showing that.

01:11:12.220 So they were clearly posting the election video and didn't clip it and didn't realize it needed to be clipped three seconds earlier.

01:11:21.580 So it was a mistake.

01:11:22.780 That's what the president did.

01:11:24.340 He tweeted out a mistake.

01:11:26.340 So they want to pretend that this is President Trump saying Barack and Michelle are just like apes.

01:11:31.440 That's a lie.

01:11:32.880 I don't defend the actual video at all, but I do defend the president on the attack that he's a racist because of this.

01:11:40.580 It's very clear what happened and they know it.

01:11:43.080 They just saw an opportunity to use it against him.

01:11:45.500 In any event, it's Gavin Newsom lying again and trying to make himself sound like relatable, you know.

01:11:51.380 So I was poor.

01:11:53.100 No, you weren't.

01:11:54.060 I'm dumb.

01:11:54.940 Well, that one may be true.

01:11:56.740 I don't know.

01:11:57.300 He actually doesn't seem like dumb to me.

01:11:59.800 A lot of people don't take tests well, and I believe in that he did have dyslexia.

01:12:02.700 But it was completely ridiculous to use that as a way of bonding with a group of black audience members.

01:12:11.760 I mean, completely inappropriate and telling, very telling.

01:12:15.420 Another person dissembling is potentially a presidential candidate on Team Dem, and that's AOC.

01:12:23.280 We talked a bit last week about her snafus in her foray into foreign policy.

01:12:29.540 She's made an absolute buffoon of herself, right?

01:12:32.640 First, she stuttered and stumbled and couldn't spit it out when she was asked about what our policy toward China should be if they invade Taiwan.

01:12:41.820 I mean, literally just, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.

01:12:45.840 I mean, it was so embarrassing.

01:12:48.040 I had secondhand embarrassment for her.

01:12:49.540 Well, and to the point where she had to run to the New York Times and try to, like, get a rehab, and they tried to do it, but nobody was accepting it.

01:12:56.840 But she was getting hit on the left and the right for that abominable performance.

01:13:01.820 And now over the weekend, even though she's got a cold and she's lost much of her voice, she took to social media to try to rip on the people who are ripping her and listen to her new defense.

01:13:14.360 Watch.

01:13:14.580 If you think that I don't understand foreign policy because out of hours of discourse about international affairs, I pause to think about one of the most sensitive geopolitical issues that currently exist on Earth.

01:13:31.880 I'm afraid the issue is not my understanding, but rather the problem is perhaps you've gotten adjusted to a president that never thinks before he speaks.

01:13:44.580 Okay.

01:13:45.180 I don't know who was snoring in the background, her dog or whomever, but that, that should have been edited out.

01:13:49.360 In any event, it's amazing to me that now she wants to say, you, you don't, you don't seem to understand.

01:13:56.980 If you don't understand, if you don't, if you think I didn't understand, it's really that you don't understand because really Trump can't understand.

01:14:04.360 That's her logic.

01:14:05.300 And then, wait, there's more because over the weekend, she got into a Twitter fight with somebody who was pointing out, like, you sound a lot more like the, the cocktail waitress that you are and not so much like a member of Congress.

01:14:20.660 And she took umbrage at that saying, like, if you don't know, whatever, I, being a cocktail waitress is something that I'm really proud of.

01:14:29.320 She was responding to Senator John Kennedy, who mockingly compared her, um, to former Vice President Harris after her comments and said, uh, my message to her is this stand by and following, uh, you go girl, you just keep it up.

01:14:46.160 And apparently he raised, uh, her bartending experience saying the Congresswoman is kind of like Vice President Kamala Harris, but with more bartending experience.

01:14:54.140 And she responded saying, my having been a waitress makes me 1,000 times more qualified to govern on behalf of working people than whatever lifelong politician nonsense you've swung from your whole career.

01:15:05.480 Why should working people vote for you if this is what you think of them?

01:15:08.140 Now, I tweeted this out and I stand by it here.

01:15:12.580 Many people have cocktail waitress, including yours truly.

01:15:16.360 If you then parlay that into a career as a U.S. Congresswoman, it becomes part of a wonderful origin story for you that you can be proud of and that the American people will celebrate.

01:15:26.560 If, in fact, you prove that you are up to the job.

01:15:29.880 If, instead, you go out and open your mouth and prove that you are a know-nothing ignoramus, we look at you and we want a margarita.

01:15:38.780 That's what happens.

01:15:40.140 Instead of thinking, oh, this is a great American success story.

01:15:44.320 Local girl makes good.

01:15:46.040 Cocktail waitress becomes U.S. Congresswoman and potential presidential candidate ready for the world stage.

01:15:51.560 We think, I'd like it slightly skinny and spicy and with a little salt.

01:15:57.040 That's what we think.

01:15:58.260 Sandy.

01:15:59.580 Okay?

01:15:59.780 So, the only reason anybody is looking down on your cocktail waitressing or bringing it up or your bartending in a negative way is because you are acting more like a cocktail waitress than a U.S. Congresswoman.

01:16:11.260 I cocktail waitress long time.

01:16:14.300 When I was in college, it was at a bar called Harry's in Syracuse, New York.

01:16:18.020 It was a total dive bar.

01:16:19.440 It was the 1990s when it was filled rim to rim with smokers.

01:16:23.240 I'd go home every night reeking of cigarette smoke, which I never did.

01:16:27.260 I never smoked.

01:16:28.360 And I'd have to shower every night.

01:16:30.000 It was interesting work, let me tell you.

01:16:32.360 And it was hard work.

01:16:33.240 And I worked my tail off because I needed money, because I didn't have entire parental support.

01:16:39.800 My mom was using my dad's life insurance policy so that I could go there.

01:16:43.400 So, I did help put myself through school, and I put myself entirely through law school.

01:16:47.440 And I did it in large part through teaching aerobics and waitressing, cocktail waitressing and later waiting tables.

01:16:53.860 That doesn't make me get offended when anybody brings it up.

01:16:56.900 If somebody were to say to me now, like, oh, get me a margarita, I would laugh.

01:17:00.880 We'd all laugh because there's no question that I have two brain cells to run together in between my two ears, and therefore, I'm not insecure on this front.

01:17:08.780 You, however, you're insecure because you know you're dumb.

01:17:14.480 You know you haven't studied, right?

01:17:17.400 She's not completely stupid.

01:17:18.880 It's just she's ignorant.

01:17:20.460 She hasn't put in the time.

01:17:21.520 Now, she's too busy looking at herself on social media to actually do the homework it takes to be a serious person in Washington.

01:17:27.840 And I don't blame you.

01:17:28.580 A lot of these stuff is very dry, can be very boring.

01:17:32.040 That's why not everybody wants to be president.

01:17:34.160 But you are clearly getting closer to throwing your hat in the ring.

01:17:37.580 And notwithstanding three months of study and training for this international event, as the New York Times reported, or Politico reported, you failed.

01:17:47.640 It was a complete face plant.

01:17:49.700 You know it, and you've been scrambling ever since.

01:17:53.000 I'm sorry.

01:17:53.780 I can't help you, but I can stand by and watch you because it's been highly amusing.

01:17:59.960 Okay, let's keep going.

01:18:02.060 There is the State of the Union tomorrow night.

01:18:05.980 President Trump will take to the lectern in the well of the U.S. Capitol and probably say the State of our Union is strong.

01:18:14.620 Or he'll say it's amazing, it's unbelievable, spectacular.

01:18:19.880 And I don't know who's going to be there because the Democrats have apparently learned that they made fools of themselves last year.

01:18:29.220 Remember, with the little placards, false, lie.

01:18:34.580 Remember how ridiculous they were?

01:18:37.080 We laughed and laughed.

01:18:38.920 Remember how they didn't stand for little Daniel, the aspiring police officer?

01:18:44.320 Remember how they didn't stand for the cancer victims?

01:18:47.780 They didn't stand for Lake and Riley's family?

01:18:51.380 Nobody.

01:18:52.160 Nobody was sympathetic enough to make the Democrats stand and clap a little.

01:18:56.280 Nope.

01:18:56.920 They weren't going to do it, no matter how heartless and disgusting they looked.

01:19:01.800 Well, this year they've realized that their little placards sucked.

01:19:06.580 And I guess what happened, according to the National Review, they wrote an article about this, about what happened after last year was the normie Democrats were so humiliated by the far-left progressive Democrats who brought those little placards to the State of the Union that there was blowback against them.

01:19:23.540 Like, what are you doing?

01:19:24.200 You're making us all look stupid.

01:19:25.460 And then, like, the Democrats out in the wild got mad at the establishment Dems for yelling at the progressive Dems.

01:19:33.460 Like, at least they're doing something.

01:19:34.900 Oh, they're a little lie placard.

01:19:36.440 Okay, that's doing something.

01:19:38.020 Okay.

01:19:38.920 And so then the normie Democrats got worried that they looked like they were too weak.

01:19:45.000 And so I guess this year a bunch of them are going to skip.

01:19:47.920 At least the progressives may skip.

01:19:49.580 AOC is going to skip, reportedly, the State of the Union.

01:19:52.660 And they're going to hold their own State of the Union.

01:19:55.460 Like, gathering hosted by Joy Reid.

01:19:58.620 Okay.

01:19:59.980 Sure, I love it.

01:20:01.240 This is going to send just the right message about where your party is and who it sees as its leaders.

01:20:07.140 A woman who absolutely hates whites, who is too extreme even for MSNBC, who first came to fame by faking a blog hacking to cover up her transphobic, no, homophobic, and other bigoted posts.

01:20:28.500 Remember her lies about how she got hacked?

01:20:30.480 It was a fucking lie.

01:20:31.940 Then she had to say the FBI was investigating, which was another lie.

01:20:34.960 And she got away with that lie because she's a leftist black woman.

01:20:38.520 And they'll let you get away with anything if you're a black woman as a Democrat.

01:20:41.720 So that's who's going to be hosting, I guess, their anti-State of the Union.

01:20:46.860 And guess who they're having to do their official response?

01:20:49.500 You know how the party out of power always has a response?

01:20:52.160 It's unbelievable.

01:20:53.880 They went, like, there are some people who've got some charisma.

01:20:57.200 But I guess the problem for them is they can't go with, like, an AOC.

01:20:59.500 She's not even showing up.

01:21:00.480 And she just embarrassed herself on the world stage.

01:21:02.640 Can't go with Gavin Newsom because he just insulted black people by telling them, basically, they're all dumb and can't read.

01:21:08.040 You can't go with Wes Moore of Maryland because even though he was the rising star in the Democrat Party about six months ago, he's been caught in more origin story lies than, what was the name of that guy who wrote A Million Little Pieces, James Fry?

01:21:27.600 Why? Like, he, this guy, everything he said about his backstory appears to have been a lie about his father having to flee the racist South and move to Jamaica to avoid, I don't know, like, Jim Crow.

01:21:42.020 It turned out to be all lies and, like, documented his own story about his Bronze Star having been awarded one.

01:21:49.240 He wasn't. That was a lie.

01:21:50.720 There are many more stories that he's told about his origins that turned out to be lies and his, like, poor upbringing in Baltimore.

01:21:59.700 No, not true.

01:22:01.060 He had money.

01:22:01.860 He had advantages.

01:22:02.900 These are lies, too.

01:22:04.520 And so they can't go with Wes Moore.

01:22:06.380 So guess who they went for?

01:22:08.960 They went with Abigail Spamburger.

01:22:12.160 Abigail Spamburger.

01:22:14.080 Like, the one, like, she looks like she has no pigment.

01:22:17.020 I mean, I realize I'm very pasty, too, so I'm in a glass house, but she has even less pigment than I do.

01:22:22.820 There is no pigment in Abigail Spamburger's face.

01:22:25.220 Look at it tomorrow night.

01:22:26.340 It's, like, white as a sheet.

01:22:28.840 There's no, like, put on some colored lips at least, like a little pigment, a little, like, pink, a little red, a little, you know, whatever, brown, something to make us see that there are lips.

01:22:38.720 And maybe try a personality.

01:22:41.860 All I can think of when I hear the name Abigail Spamburger is winsome Sears, Abigail, Abigail, Abigail, say something, Abigail, on the trans policies in Virginia.

01:22:53.400 I guess they think she's great.

01:22:54.920 She's the future of the party because she managed to get elected in Virginia and take Governor Youngkin's seat, even though she's pro-trans agenda in schools, just by dodging.

01:23:05.180 She set the new way forward by dodging, dodge, dodge, dodge.

01:23:10.020 And she's already turning Virginia, I mean, deep blue.

01:23:14.280 So, okay, let's see how that goes.

01:23:16.640 As you guys know, this is a curse job.

01:23:18.920 Very few have done it well.

01:23:20.120 Sarah Huckabee Sanders is, like, one of the only ones.

01:23:22.600 But last year went very poorly, or two years ago, for Katie Britt.

01:23:26.840 Remember that?

01:23:27.460 That was awful.

01:23:29.460 Marco Rubio with the water.

01:23:31.780 This is just, it's kind of where careers go to die.

01:23:34.280 So we'll see how Abigail, Abigail does tomorrow night.

01:23:38.920 I do not have high hopes.

01:23:41.520 And now, I guess there's also going to be all these protests of the State of the Union.

01:23:47.700 I know, maybe it's going to be the Joy Reid event.

01:23:49.440 Maybe it's going to be, like, all over the place.

01:23:51.800 I'm not sure.

01:23:52.340 Maybe it's going to be at an AOC event.

01:23:53.960 But the Democrats are getting these, the frog brigades ready.

01:23:59.240 Okay, I've got to find this because I've got to show you.

01:24:01.720 Um, it's like, first of all, I thought the frog, I've been reliably told that the frog

01:24:07.580 is like a white supremacist symbol.

01:24:10.480 So I don't know why they're going for these frogs as they're, like, little spokespeople,

01:24:14.960 these people who are trying to boycott the State of the Union.

01:24:17.200 But they are.

01:24:18.900 And they have got these, I don't know, who else is, Hakeem Jeffries.

01:24:25.400 Oh, yeah.

01:24:25.680 He told reporters that it was his impresent intention to be at the State of the Union,

01:24:29.440 but he might skip, too.

01:24:30.720 There are others.

01:24:32.120 And, um, okay, I'm looking at it here.

01:24:36.000 Held on the National Mall.

01:24:37.620 Members of the House and the Senate who are boycotting.

01:24:39.300 It's also going to be, uh, Senators Adam Schiff, Chris Murphy, Tina Smith of Minnesota,

01:24:45.900 Chris Van Hollen of Maryland.

01:24:47.200 So he made it out to, to go have a cocktail with someone at Seacott in Venezuela, but he's

01:24:55.480 not going to be able to make it to the State of the Union.

01:24:58.260 And this State of the Swamp, which will be live streamed from 7 to 11, uh, at the National

01:25:04.100 Press Club, this is going to be hosted by Defiance.org, an anti-Trump organization, and

01:25:09.840 by the Portland Frog Brigade.

01:25:11.600 This is a protest group that shows up to protests in inflatable frog costumes.

01:25:18.040 Feast your eyes on this.

01:25:27.600 He's pulling his wheelies through case and he's skipping.

01:25:38.080 The Portland Frog Brigade is going on a special mission.

01:25:45.500 Let's just say this is going to be one for the history books.

01:25:48.000 So they've chosen, uh, an alleged symbol of white supremacy as their mascot to go boycott

01:25:54.300 the State of the Union by the president.

01:25:56.920 Can I just say this is like another new low?

01:26:00.800 Look at these ridiculous things.

01:26:02.620 This is how they're going to stand up and fight.

01:26:04.780 This is better than the placards.

01:26:06.040 Is it, is it, but it's, it's another new low because as divided as we've been in the

01:26:13.800 past, everyone shows up at the State of the Union.

01:26:17.080 Like you don't boycott.

01:26:19.020 It's another one of those events that the American people expect to see all of their

01:26:22.900 lawmakers present for good, bad, or ugly in support or not.

01:26:26.500 And this has been coming for a while.

01:26:27.980 You know, remember when Nancy Pelosi ripped up president Trump's speech right after he

01:26:32.680 finished it.

01:26:34.060 Um, and now Barack Obama chastising the Supreme Court within like 10 feet of them to their

01:26:40.820 faces.

01:26:41.800 Now, is president Trump going to do that tomorrow night when the Supreme Court that just ruled

01:26:45.160 against him on tariffs is sitting there, members of it.

01:26:47.340 He might, but you just remember to yourself, it's not going to make it right.

01:26:50.720 Barack Obama was the one who first crossed that bridge.

01:26:53.480 He was the one who upended that norm.

01:26:55.300 And now the Democrats are upending yet another by not showing, I mean, several U.S. senators

01:27:00.900 not going to show up to the event, holding their own event with the frog, the fucking inflatable

01:27:05.780 fraud.

01:27:06.240 All right, what are we doing?

01:27:08.360 Grow up, cheer for the wins at the Olympics, celebrate the athletes, stop shoving politics

01:27:18.820 down their throats and making them comment on them.

01:27:21.220 Don't be an idiot who needs therapy and gets digestive issues when you cheer for Team USA.

01:27:28.480 Show up at the State of the Union, clap for the cancer survivors, clap when they show the

01:27:34.600 men's and the women's hockey team.

01:27:36.820 The women's team has also been invited, though less clear whether they're going to be there.

01:27:41.000 Act like a patriot in America, a country loving citizen.

01:27:46.780 Okay.

01:27:47.320 And then go out there and fight tooth and nail on policy.

01:27:49.620 I don't know why I'm doing them this favor of telling them how they're supposed to behave,

01:27:54.380 but I know as well as you do, they're not going to listen.

01:27:57.760 All right, we're going to take a quick break and then we will be right back.

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01:30:36.500 There are still moments of doing this job that I want to start with.

01:30:39.320 This is a Fox News alert.

01:30:40.740 This would be one had we been on cable at this moment.

01:30:44.700 Another arrest in connection with the Epstein files.

01:30:48.100 This one of Lord Peter Mandelson in the UK,

01:30:52.420 a second arrest in the UK after that of former Prince Andrew last week.

01:30:57.260 He's been arrested on allegations of misconduct in public office,

01:31:01.360 citing here the Times of London.

01:31:03.220 He was led out of his London home by police officers this afternoon.

01:31:09.820 This is him today.

01:31:11.440 He's the former British ambassador to the US,

01:31:14.540 and he's faced allegations that he leaked market-sensitive information

01:31:18.240 from 10 Downing Street to Epstein.

01:31:22.500 He's denied wrongdoing.

01:31:23.960 A spokesperson for the Metropolitan Police would only say officers have arrested a 72-year-old man

01:31:28.800 on suspicion of misconduct in public office.

01:31:32.460 Here is the story about him.

01:31:35.320 We don't know exactly what he's accused of, other than that line I just gave you,

01:31:39.220 but the New York Times reported this earlier this month.

01:31:41.860 Long before Epstein became a liability,

01:31:44.920 Mandelson had twice resigned from government posts for scandals of his own making,

01:31:49.360 one in 1998 for an undeclared home loan,

01:31:51.680 then again in 2001 over a passport application for one of his donors.

01:31:55.680 He returned to government in October 2008,

01:31:57.940 and as a senior member of Mr. Brown's cabinet,

01:32:00.400 was given a post in Parliament's upper chamber and a new title,

01:32:03.340 Lord!

01:32:04.120 He was removed twice from the government in disgrace,

01:32:07.220 wrote Epstein to a friend not long after that.

01:32:10.820 When they offered him redemption, he grabbed it.

01:32:13.520 But then that friendship would cost Lord Mandelson and dearly.

01:32:18.080 It appears that he used his place at the heart of Downing Street

01:32:20.780 to feed Epstein's sensitive and politically valuable or potentially valuable information.

01:32:25.960 In June 2009, Nick Butler, an economic advisor to the Prime Minister,

01:32:30.660 wrote a memo to the Prime Minister about the British economy.

01:32:34.540 It was still reeling from the financial crisis at the time.

01:32:36.640 He suggested the government should consider selling some of its saleable assets

01:32:40.340 to boister the public finances.

01:32:42.060 The email was copied to several government officials,

01:32:44.560 including Mandelson, who then forwarded it to Epstein,

01:32:47.680 writing interesting note that's gone to the Prime Minister.

01:32:51.780 Epstein responded, what saleable assets?

01:32:54.160 Mandelson replied, land, property, I guess.

01:32:57.020 And they went on from there.

01:32:58.400 There was another instance, allegedly,

01:32:59.680 where there was work and an effort to beat back, by Mandelson,

01:33:07.820 his own government's proposal to tax bankers' bonuses.

01:33:11.840 And Epstein was looped in by Mandelson on it.

01:33:15.880 Epstein asked whether Jamie Dimon, the head of J.P. Morgan,

01:33:19.180 should call the British chancellor to raise the issue.

01:33:22.680 And Mandelson agreed, yes, and mildly threatened, he said.

01:33:25.620 And then there was more.

01:33:28.800 In 2010, he confirmed to Epstein the timing of a looming bailout

01:33:32.520 by European governments during the Eurozone sovereign debt crisis.

01:33:36.420 Should be announced tonight, he wrote to Epstein,

01:33:39.100 a day before it was formally announced.

01:33:40.680 Like, none of this is good.

01:33:42.140 Now, I don't know what the defense will be.

01:33:43.420 It could be, as in the case of Prince Andrew,

01:33:46.060 where it's likely to be, there's nothing wrong

01:33:48.320 with seeking the counsel of an investment expert

01:33:52.640 on the moves that we're about to make

01:33:54.600 as a British, you know, government.

01:33:57.380 But there may indeed be something wrong

01:33:58.960 if that's considered confidential,

01:34:00.280 as was alleged in the Prince Andrew case.

01:34:02.460 So I don't know the British rules,

01:34:04.260 but it certainly appears that they do not consider it okay

01:34:07.300 to be disclosing this stuff to a non-governmental official.

01:34:10.540 And it appears, as in the Prince Andrew case,

01:34:13.380 a former prince, allegedly,

01:34:15.100 there's an oath taken not to do that.

01:34:16.780 So we will see whether that's the case.

01:34:19.640 But this guy, Lord Mandelson,

01:34:20.920 is kind of at the heart of a lot of the problems here

01:34:24.000 and is part of the reason why we had Dan Wooten

01:34:27.120 and Piers Morgan separately.

01:34:29.100 Dan on this show, Piers on Fox, saying last week,

01:34:31.020 they don't think this current British government

01:34:32.880 is gonna survive this scandal.

01:34:34.440 Because Keir Starmer had this guy be part of the government

01:34:37.160 knowing that he had all these troubles

01:34:39.140 and gave him this post, you know,

01:34:41.520 to be the ambassador to the United States,

01:34:43.160 knowing all this history.

01:34:44.500 And it was a serious problem.

01:34:45.660 And now the embarrassment is not just the Lord's,

01:34:48.720 but his too.

01:34:51.520 Okay.

01:34:52.480 Speaking of Epstein,

01:34:53.880 I wanna show you something that happened on News Nation

01:34:55.760 with Leland Vittert on Friday.

01:34:58.020 A representative, a Democrat rep named Melanie Stansbury.

01:35:02.360 She went on with Leland on Friday.

01:35:04.600 And take a look at what happened here.

01:35:06.220 You said if a prince can be held accountable,

01:35:10.180 so can a president.

01:35:11.160 I'll ask you the question again.

01:35:13.280 You said that right after Prince Andrew was arrested

01:35:15.440 and charged with a crime.

01:35:17.040 That's what accountability means to you.

01:35:19.480 What crime should Donald Trump be charged with?

01:35:23.160 Well, Donald Trump was investigated by the FBI

01:35:26.280 for abuse of a minor.

01:35:28.100 And there are multiple statements from witnesses

01:35:30.960 that the FBI took as tips

01:35:33.440 and they investigated as allegations.

01:35:36.000 Those, as far as we know,

01:35:37.660 were never taken fully to the fullest extent

01:35:40.620 of their investigation.

01:35:41.520 Well, hold on.

01:35:42.100 First of all...

01:35:42.520 And we need to be asking important questions

01:35:45.540 about what happened and what transpired...

01:35:46.160 But you do, ma'am.

01:35:47.160 That's not what you said, though.

01:35:48.760 That's not what you said.

01:35:50.320 You said he should be held accountable

01:35:51.620 in the way he should be arrested.

01:35:53.100 No, ma'am.

01:35:53.560 I didn't come on your program.

01:35:54.380 I came on to get answers

01:35:56.780 and you're not answering the question.

01:35:58.900 You're not answering the question.

01:36:00.400 I came on your program to present the facts

01:36:01.740 to the American public,

01:36:03.120 which is the files are there.

01:36:04.920 There are three million files available

01:36:07.100 for the public to view themselves.

01:36:09.000 I don't have to argue with you on the air.

01:36:10.940 Just go read the files, my friend.

01:36:12.440 Right.

01:36:13.060 And the files do not show evidence

01:36:15.300 beyond a reasonable doubt

01:36:16.460 to indict anybody.

01:36:17.580 So obviously what the files also say

01:36:19.880 is that the FBI found those tips

01:36:21.320 to be not credible.

01:36:22.680 No.

01:36:23.040 Otherwise, their indictment

01:36:25.140 would have been brought.

01:36:25.600 No, we have not seen any evidence.

01:36:26.380 That's how it works.

01:36:29.420 Oh, my God.

01:36:30.180 This woman is insufferable.

01:36:31.460 Good for Leland.

01:36:32.700 That is such a scurrilous thing

01:36:34.500 for her to say.

01:36:35.220 Honestly, that's something

01:36:36.740 that Trump could sue News Nation over

01:36:38.500 if Leland did not push back

01:36:40.120 the way he did.

01:36:41.000 That woman is completely irresponsible.

01:36:42.920 She needs to watch it.

01:36:44.540 Seriously, she needs to watch it.

01:36:45.680 And she's setting herself up

01:36:46.840 for a legal claim.

01:36:48.160 Trump was not.

01:36:49.300 This is such a misrepresentation.

01:36:51.320 She's referring to that FBI file,

01:36:53.140 which was full of just random allegations

01:36:55.500 people called in the FBI tip line with.

01:36:58.200 I mean, truly, like Trump took part

01:37:00.700 in a satanic ritual

01:37:01.700 where people's body parts were shut off

01:37:03.460 and then she cut off.

01:37:05.260 And then she's out there like

01:37:06.120 Trump was investigated for that.

01:37:08.100 OK.

01:37:09.260 Did anything come of it?

01:37:10.660 Because I think virtually

01:37:12.900 every single one of them

01:37:13.860 was found to be not credible

01:37:14.800 and the FBI moved on.

01:37:16.400 For her to repeat that

01:37:17.860 like it was real.

01:37:18.820 And by the way,

01:37:19.720 all of this, like to suggest

01:37:21.420 that any of this

01:37:23.240 had any sort of a probable cause basis

01:37:25.480 or even a good faith basis

01:37:26.800 is to lie about those involved.

01:37:28.560 You are setting yourself up

01:37:29.840 for a claim, madam.

01:37:31.460 Leland handled it perfectly

01:37:33.140 like a professional.

01:37:34.680 And guess, guess who decided to weigh in?

01:37:38.700 Julie K. Brown,

01:37:40.040 the one who broke that piece

01:37:41.060 in the Miami Herald in 2018 on Epstein,

01:37:43.300 who I've been railing about in this show.

01:37:44.920 And the reason is

01:37:45.760 she would never come on this program.

01:37:48.160 She won't go on right wing podcasts

01:37:50.000 because she can't stand conservatives.

01:37:52.640 So she'd love to spread her news,

01:37:54.140 but only among liberals.

01:37:55.840 And that is outrageous, truly.

01:37:57.300 Like, especially when we launched this podcast,

01:37:58.720 we really weren't partisan at all.

01:38:01.020 That was back when I was trying

01:38:01.960 to not talk about my own opinion at all.

01:38:03.720 She wouldn't come on even then.

01:38:05.820 Why?

01:38:06.080 Because I was of Fox News.

01:38:07.160 That's how hard partisan she is.

01:38:08.740 So she decides to tweet out this

01:38:10.280 in response to that clip.

01:38:12.260 This is why I won't go on News Nation.

01:38:16.060 Who?

01:38:16.380 I mean, like, what?

01:38:17.820 You won't go on News Nation with Leland?

01:38:20.120 Ever.

01:38:21.200 He is scoffing and smirking

01:38:23.140 and won't even let her finish a sentence.

01:38:25.340 That's because she was legally defaming

01:38:27.100 the president of the United States.

01:38:28.640 So misogynistic and unprofessional.

01:38:31.920 Let her speak, dude.

01:38:33.720 What the F?

01:38:35.380 Misogynistic?

01:38:36.340 He's trying to protect his network

01:38:38.560 against scurrilous defamation

01:38:41.820 that's happening real time on the air.

01:38:45.060 Julie, you're not a lawyer and it's obvious.

01:38:47.900 And she decides to call him misogynistic.

01:38:50.520 Honestly, I gotta be clear here.

01:38:53.060 We need to go back and actually do a hard check

01:38:54.940 of her 2018 article.

01:38:57.220 Like, she's not an honest broker.

01:38:59.240 I'm not trying to rehabilitate Jeffrey Epstein,

01:39:01.340 who obviously was a pervert.

01:39:03.800 But somebody needs to take a hard look

01:39:06.500 at everything she's done.

01:39:07.700 This is a crazy person.

01:39:09.120 That's misogynistic.

01:39:10.360 If we're gonna go with misogynist

01:39:11.840 over a clip like that,

01:39:13.560 someone should really do a hard scrub

01:39:15.160 of this woman's prior reporting.

01:39:16.880 She's a sick person.

01:39:18.700 Didn't I tell you?

01:39:19.540 I told you.

01:39:20.460 I told you about Julie K. Brown.

01:39:22.440 And once again, she proves me right.

01:39:23.920 Good job, Leland.

01:39:25.020 And sad.

01:39:25.800 Sad for you, Melanie Stansbury.

01:39:27.080 By the way, here she is

01:39:28.520 at the 2025 State of the Union by Trump

01:39:30.320 holding up a,

01:39:32.400 this is not normal sign

01:39:33.960 as Trump walks down.

01:39:36.100 This is her.

01:39:38.580 I mean, I hope that it's got an arrow

01:39:40.320 pointing up to her own face.

01:39:43.060 Because there, we agree, madam.

01:39:46.140 A lot of leftists in the news.

01:39:47.620 A lot of nutcases.

01:39:49.180 We've got some great other content

01:39:51.080 that we weren't able to get to.

01:39:52.100 But thankfully, there's another show tomorrow.

01:39:53.740 And we will do that with Andrew Klavan.

01:39:56.020 See you then.

01:39:59.700 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

01:40:01.880 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - February 23, 2026

U.S. Men's Hockey Team's Inspirational Patriotism, Alysa Liu's Important Lesson, and Gavin Newsom's Wild SAT Comment ｜ Ep. 1258

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