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00:00:30.900 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.440 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.740 Tulsi Gabbard has been confirmed as the new Director of National Intelligence.

00:00:51.120 The vote was 52 to 48. How about that?

00:00:55.120 It was basically a straight party line vote with Senator Mitch McConnell voting no, like he did with Pete Hegseth.

00:01:01.540 We will have more on that tomorrow with our pals from Ruthless.

00:01:05.840 But she's through. That's incredible.

00:01:09.120 That was a tough one.

00:01:10.740 I mean, as you know, I went to that confirmation hearing, part of it, and my God, they were all so negative on her.

00:01:18.800 It's like they didn't want to try something new.

00:01:21.780 Notwithstanding Trump's overwhelming victory and his promise to the American people that he was going to shake things up and it would not be business as usual.

00:01:28.760 And he had his team of Avengers who he was going to put in there.

00:01:31.780 You had a bunch of old naysayers.

00:01:34.080 You know, she's different.

00:01:35.140 She looks different.

00:01:35.860 She sounds different.

00:01:36.980 She doesn't say all the things that all the others have said.

00:01:39.520 And it took quite a bit of browbeating to get these Republican senators in line.

00:01:47.120 You know, the letters she had to write, it's just, boy, they really make you bend the knee when you're in her position.

00:01:53.020 But you know what?

00:01:54.180 She's in now.

00:01:55.940 And that's that.

00:01:57.940 You know, all we really needed was your yes vote.

00:02:00.180 So thank you for doing that.

00:02:01.400 And really, there should be a conversation about, like, exactly what extractions are appropriate to demand by these senators of cabinet nominees.

00:02:13.380 I mean, this person, she's working for Trump, right?

00:02:17.840 She's got oversight by the Congress, but she's not working for you.

00:02:21.980 She wasn't hired by you directly, Senator.

00:02:24.340 Senator, I've got a couple in mind, and I will do them the favor of not mentioning them here.

00:02:30.060 But I think there will be a conversation to come on those who harassed people like RFKJ and Tulsi into, you will adopt all of my policy positions or I won't vote yes on you.

00:02:41.360 You're not the president.

00:02:42.780 It's annoying.

00:02:43.600 All right.

00:02:43.860 Anyway, she got through.

00:02:45.220 That's the important thing.

00:02:47.040 Great.

00:02:47.860 That's amazing.

00:02:49.100 Thank goodness things are going to change.

00:02:51.560 They're going to change within the intelligence services and the coordination of intel.

00:02:57.640 And maybe we won't be so quick to say things like WMD and have 51 intelligence agencies or agents, former officials, cooperating with the agencies to undermine a presidential candidate.

00:03:11.220 We need change.

00:03:13.040 I mean, literally just today in the news, there is a story about how you remember how I told you there was a there was a Department of Homeland Security raid.

00:03:21.000 There was an ICE raid by Tom Homan in Colorado on one of those apartment complexes where Trenda Agua has been hanging out, this Venezuelan disgusting gang.

00:03:31.880 And he showed up and they were gone.

00:03:34.760 Every every apartment was empty where it had been full the day before.

00:03:39.000 He was about to deport these people, criminal gang members from Venezuela, all gone suddenly.

00:03:45.380 So there was a leak that Tom Homan and ICE were showing up.

00:03:48.960 And guess what Homan told Hannity last night?

00:03:51.300 They think it was the FBI.

00:03:53.600 They think the FBI was the one.

00:03:56.080 We need serious overhaul at these organizations.

00:04:01.480 That's why people don't give two shits what Kash Patel said about, you know, the FBI needs to be made into a museum.

00:04:10.100 The people of the deep state, right?

00:04:13.340 We're sick of this partisan bullshit in our agencies that are supposed to be enacting the will of the people.

00:04:19.200 The will, in this case, of the people's president, Donald Trump.

00:04:23.740 That Tom Homan said last night, someone's going to jail.

00:04:27.480 This is beyond losing your your put your cushy post at the FBI.

00:04:31.620 Someone who is going behind bars.

00:04:33.700 They will figure it out.

00:04:35.700 They will.

00:04:36.740 And I can't wait to find out who it is.

00:04:39.240 That's almost treasonous what that person has done.

00:04:43.220 I'm delighted that that agency is about to be in the hands of Kash Patel.

00:04:47.240 It's great.

00:04:48.660 And that you've got, you know, Tom Homan and Kristi Noem.

00:04:51.640 She said the same.

00:04:52.340 She said, we think it was the FBI.

00:04:53.560 How corrupt is this organization?

00:04:55.400 So you've got Kristi Noem.

00:04:56.480 You've got Tom Homan.

00:04:57.220 You've got Kash Patel.

00:04:58.640 You've got Pam Bondi.

00:04:59.680 All of them are going to work together to stop this nonsense, to put a stop to this because

00:05:04.100 the DOJ oversees the FBI.

00:05:05.840 OK, that's that's that.

00:05:08.480 Meanwhile, the big news of the day yesterday was when Doge chief also, you know, 40 billionaire.

00:05:15.360 I don't know.

00:05:15.980 Like when you have 40 billion, are you a 40 billionaire?

00:05:18.060 What are you?

00:05:18.940 Elon Musk stopped by the Oval Office yesterday, along with his adorable son, X, who's only four

00:05:24.960 years old.

00:05:25.240 He loves that letter.

00:05:26.140 X loves it.

00:05:27.640 He's only four.

00:05:29.260 And with President Trump sitting by his side, Elon held court with the media in a newsy,

00:05:34.240 casual, impromptu presser.

00:05:37.060 It was a remarkable moment.

00:05:38.480 And the left is predictably melting down over every chance they have to drive a wedge between

00:05:43.380 Elon and Trump.

00:05:44.540 The other day I said I'd show you the Time magazine cover.

00:05:46.640 Then I forgot to.

00:05:47.920 Maybe we can pull it over, you guys.

00:05:49.240 But, you know, Time magazine this week, it's got Elon at the Oval, in the Oval at the Resolute

00:05:54.640 desk.

00:05:55.360 It's, you know, he's the real president.

00:05:56.980 Obviously, they're just trying to irritate Trump and poke at Trump's ego.

00:06:02.320 You know, you're weak.

00:06:03.580 You need Elon.

00:06:05.000 You can't do it yourself.

00:06:06.160 You're too old or infirm.

00:06:08.440 Guess again.

00:06:09.940 Trump is too smart to fall for your petty games.

00:06:12.940 He knows that Elon is a great asset.

00:06:16.200 He has working for him.

00:06:18.480 There's no confusion between the two men on who is top dog.

00:06:22.580 And I don't think these petty tactics are going to work on Donald Trump.

00:06:27.040 He's overcome a lot.

00:06:28.860 I'm sure he can overcome a Time magazine cover and leftist media trying to press his buttons

00:06:36.580 about why we're seeing so much of Elon.

00:06:38.540 Do you think Trump really wants to be the one to go in and run Doge and, like, be a number

00:06:43.800 cruncher on what's happening at these federal agencies?

00:06:46.880 Or do you think he might actually be delighted to be delegating some of that stuff to someone

00:06:51.740 as smart as Elon and someone as proven when it comes to eliminating unnecessary fat from

00:06:59.980 organizations as Elon?

00:07:03.460 Really, they're very upset about Elon.

00:07:06.000 The left, the politicians, very upset about Elon and what he's doing.

00:07:12.340 And we'll get to all of it.

00:07:14.080 Joining me later in the program is Anna Kasparian of The Young Turks.

00:07:17.240 But we start today with our pal Adam Carolla, host of The Adam Carolla Show.

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00:08:20.900 Adam, welcome back.

00:08:22.120 Great to have you.

00:08:22.820 So, Elon goes into the Oval last night, and he's standing next to Trump at the Resolute

00:08:30.080 desk.

00:08:31.100 And, you know, the media is like, he's literally, Trump is literally looking up at him.

00:08:34.920 He's looking up at him, just trying to diminish Trump.

00:08:37.700 You know, Trump was sitting at the desk because he's the actual president.

00:08:40.920 You know, you can't win, right?

00:08:42.440 Like, what's he supposed to do?

00:08:43.780 Pull up a little kiddie table, like one of those little fold-out TV trays for Elon to sit

00:08:47.680 at and give us a presser?

00:08:49.760 He was trying to give us transparency, what the media has been demanding.

00:08:54.200 And Elon stood there for 30 minutes answering all these questions that have been raised by

00:08:59.020 the media on what he's finding, you know, where he's made mistakes, how transparent he's

00:09:04.880 trying to be, and how he's bringing it to us.

00:09:06.860 Nothing will ever satisfy them, Adam.

00:09:10.240 I, for one, am amazed that this kind of patriotic citizen will sacrifice of himself in this way

00:09:15.460 when he's got five, six, seven, I can't, I've lost count, other major businesses to run.

00:09:21.320 And yet you listen to the left and they would think Trump had hired the devil incarnate to gut

00:09:26.940 the most important agencies of this federal government.

00:09:30.720 What do you make of it?

00:09:31.760 Well, you know, it's funny because the media sort of reminds me of like 14-year-old girls

00:09:38.000 and junior high, like just sniping at everybody and like being so catty and trying to kind

00:09:48.460 of start fights.

00:09:49.640 I don't think they know that people don't take them seriously anymore or that most Americans

00:09:55.940 don't take them seriously at all.

00:09:57.720 Um, but I was saying to Dr. Drew this morning, because I'm living with Dr. Drew at his house,

00:10:04.760 because I cannot return to my house in Malibu.

00:10:08.780 And, uh, I was sitting in my little bathrobe on his sofa this morning when he came in and

00:10:14.620 I was watching Fox and they were getting, they were going after not Fox, but you know,

00:10:20.560 the Democrats were going after Elon and they use billionaire, like a pejorative now, like,

00:10:27.140 Oh, this billionaire.

00:10:29.420 I mean, they literally, they're going to start using, they're going to start using genius

00:10:34.100 as a pejorative in 10 minutes.

00:10:36.340 They're going to go this billionaire genius with his billionaire genius friends.

00:10:42.100 And I said to Dr. Drew, they use billionaire.

00:10:45.500 Like we used to use bum.

00:10:48.440 Yeah, they really do.

00:10:49.900 Like in the seventies, we'd say this guy, this bum comes in here with his buddies and he's

00:10:56.020 such a bum.

00:10:57.580 They use billionaire, like a pejorative.

00:11:00.460 And I'm like, I'm sorry.

00:11:02.420 There's nothing wrong with being a billionaire.

00:11:04.500 It probably means you worked a little harder.

00:11:07.080 You're a little bit smarter and you're a little bit more focused, but it does show you where

00:11:12.240 the media's heads at and where the Democrats heads are at and that they think homeless people

00:11:19.020 or illegals are noble and people that create jobs and pay millions in taxes are the problem.

00:11:26.680 The strategy by the Democrats seems obvious now.

00:11:32.240 Yes, they're trying to drive a wedge between Trump and Elon because they'd love to see Elon gone.

00:11:36.440 They, they feel very threatened by the work he's doing, you know, taking a hard look at

00:11:40.420 the bureaucracy and seeing where efficiencies can be found, meaning people can be laid off

00:11:46.240 or fired, or we can reduce the spending, which is the last thing they want.

00:11:51.040 This is all left wing slush funds throughout these organizations.

00:11:54.740 So they're terrified.

00:11:55.920 That's why they're doing this.

00:11:57.000 They want Elon gone, but their main, you know, new found new Trump 2.0 form of resistance

00:12:04.200 is lawfare.

00:12:05.960 They've filed now over 50 lawsuits to try to stop Trump's executive orders.

00:12:12.240 And what it seems to me as I, as I zoom out a little and look at these and you tell me what

00:12:17.060 your impression is, is that we had a Congress that allocated money for various organizations.

00:12:23.500 And instead of just taking that money and like training teachers how to teach or, you know,

00:12:29.900 helping them improve math scores, they went completely rogue and radical left wing with

00:12:36.960 all these organizations.

00:12:37.920 Yes.

00:12:38.220 From the department of education to this USA ID, um, and beyond.

00:12:43.600 Now we're starting to see some other organizations and started funding like slush funding DEI

00:12:50.260 initiatives across the country, across the globe, shoving gender ideology down our throats

00:12:55.260 at every turn.

00:12:56.640 And Trump goes in there and says, stop that.

00:12:59.620 I want you to return to core emissions.

00:13:01.660 Take all that nonsense out of there.

00:13:03.440 I'm not spending anybody's money on that stuff.

00:13:06.500 I want it taken down.

00:13:07.660 And I want the people who are doing it fired.

00:13:09.760 And they file 50 lawsuits to say, you can't do, you have to spend the money.

00:13:15.540 We told the way that we told you to without any acknowledgement that they are not on mission

00:13:21.580 and haven't been for some time.

00:13:24.720 Yeah.

00:13:25.560 It's kind of interesting.

00:13:26.900 If you think about the Democrats, they loved Michael Avenatti and they loved Harvey Weinstein

00:13:36.600 and they hate Elon Musk.

00:13:39.720 So should we really listen to anything these people have to say about anyone ever?

00:13:47.440 And yes, everything turns and tacks toward the left.

00:13:52.960 You know, the ACLU used to be the ACLU when you and I were young.

00:13:58.260 The Sierra Club, that was just a club of people who cared about the environment or the Coastal

00:14:03.760 Commission.

00:14:04.200 Those are men and women who were caretakers for the Coast.

00:14:08.200 Like every major organization eventually taxed toward the left.

00:14:14.480 I don't know why.

00:14:15.680 It's probably baked in.

00:14:17.520 It's like, why does every college, why does every school teacher and school union, like

00:14:22.820 why do they all move toward the left?

00:14:25.880 It's free money.

00:14:27.440 Once you get free money, you start moving toward the left.

00:14:31.420 So they've all done it.

00:14:33.080 They did it to themselves.

00:14:34.400 I don't know why they have to do it.

00:14:36.820 But the ACLU is not the ACLU anymore.

00:14:39.780 It's a left wing radical organization.

00:14:42.580 And so is the Sierra Club.

00:14:43.960 And so is 20 other organizations that started off with some sort of founding mission of,

00:14:49.700 you know, being fair and helping the environment or helping the citizens or, you know, protecting

00:14:55.980 the Constitution.

00:14:56.940 It all goes left.

00:14:58.340 Whenever you get a bunch of people, a bunch of college educated people and a bunch of

00:15:03.240 free money, it goes left.

00:15:06.440 The law fair is working in some instances, at least at the first go around with the federal

00:15:12.340 district court judges.

00:15:13.680 But it's getting out of hand.

00:15:15.280 Yesterday, we saw a judge.

00:15:18.660 It was a George W. Bush appointee, a federal district judge, insist that that the federal

00:15:26.380 government restore the DEI pages that had been taken down at CDC and NIH and another related

00:15:34.400 agency, because Vivek Murthy, who was Obama's surgeon general, his group filed a lawsuit saying,

00:15:43.580 you know, doctors really rely on those pages that they didn't take down the CDC website.

00:15:50.000 They didn't take down NIH.

00:15:51.460 They took down select pages pursuant to Trump's anti-DEI order.

00:15:57.240 Like, I don't want the gender ideology crap on government websites.

00:16:01.340 It's non-factual, it's non-scientific, and it's not helpful.

00:16:05.840 And so they actually filed a lawsuit over these websites.

00:16:08.840 And this judge sided with the plaintiffs saying, you've got to put those websites back to the

00:16:16.400 way they used to be.

00:16:17.700 Now we have federal district court judges policing individual web pages, Adam.

00:16:24.020 I'm sorry, but we have we've lost the plot that we should not be in a position where the

00:16:30.060 judiciary, Article 3, can tell Article 2, the president, what web pages he has to have on

00:16:39.060 government agencies.

00:16:40.240 Well, you know, when Trump did his first term, there were lots of provocateurs, or I should say,

00:16:50.840 a lot of folks inside saboteurs that were still inside his circle.

00:16:58.680 He didn't know it.

00:16:59.740 And I don't think he knew what was going on.

00:17:01.920 But there were a lot of people that were there to stop Trump and what he was doing.

00:17:06.940 That was during his first term.

00:17:09.640 His second term, he figured that out.

00:17:12.680 He weeded them all out of his cabinet in the White House.

00:17:16.540 But they're still strewn about the country in the form of judges and other decision makers

00:17:23.920 who are still very anti-Trump.

00:17:26.280 So it went from a sort of inner circle to now an outer strata of people that we're going to

00:17:33.700 have to do the same process to.

00:17:36.040 We're going to have to weed them out.

00:17:39.720 Yeah, well, we've got to put our chips on the appellate courts because, thank God, we,

00:17:45.940 you know, we, on the sign of sanity, control the Supreme Court.

00:17:49.140 There's a 6-3 majority for the conservatives.

00:17:51.280 And I think the appellate courts will see the reason here, too.

00:17:54.800 I mean, it's just, this is activists for this judge to do this.

00:17:57.280 Here's Trump commenting yesterday at that presser with Musk on these judges trying to stop his EOs.

00:18:03.260 It seems hard to believe that judges want to try and stop us from looking for corruption,

00:18:12.160 especially when we found hundreds of millions of dollars worth, much more than that,

00:18:17.560 in just a short period of time.

00:18:19.340 We want to weed out the corruption.

00:18:21.320 And it seems hard to believe that a judge could say, we don't want you to do that.

00:18:25.280 Well, so maybe we have to look at the judges because that's a very serious, I think it's

00:18:30.940 a very serious violation.

00:18:33.960 The judge does block one of your policies, part of your agenda.

00:18:37.780 Will you abide by that ruling?

00:18:39.640 Will you comply with that?

00:18:40.320 Well, I always abide by the courts and then I'll have to appeal it.

00:18:42.720 But then what he's done is he slowed down the momentum.

00:18:45.400 And it gives crooked people more time to cover up the books.

00:18:50.840 You know, if a person's crooked and they get caught, other people see that and all of a sudden

00:18:55.240 it becomes harder later on.

00:18:57.440 So, yeah, the answer is I always abide by the courts, always abide by them and will appeal.

00:19:03.940 But appeals take a long time.

00:19:05.840 And I would hope that a judge, if you go into a judge and you show them,

00:19:09.540 here's a corrupt situation, we have a check to be sent, but we found it to be corrupt.

00:19:15.980 Do you want us to send this corrupt check to a person or do you want us not to give it and

00:19:20.640 give it back to the taxpayer?

00:19:22.320 I would hope a judge would say, don't send it, give it back to the taxpayer.

00:19:27.120 That's the level at which he is being policed, Adam.

00:19:31.020 Yeah, I know.

00:19:32.100 It's also, it seems so apparent how earnest Trump is.

00:19:37.880 I know many narcissists have a visceral reaction to it.

00:19:42.760 They have Trump derangement syndrome, which is really just affects narcissists the most.

00:19:48.820 But versus Biden, remember Biden, like four years of just sort of nothing, just ambling,

00:19:56.320 rambling, I don't know what he's talking about talk ever.

00:19:59.940 Just the notion that Trump could sort of speak English and answer questions and say things

00:20:05.280 that were sensical versus ideological, it's so refreshing to me, but it's strange that it's

00:20:12.760 not refreshing to more Americans.

00:20:15.180 And the thing is, as you know, Biden, while he was vegetable-like in his outward-facing

00:20:21.840 persona, behind the scenes, he had very woke left-wing operatives shoving their DEI agenda

00:20:30.340 into every facet of the federal government.

00:20:34.600 All the agencies creating grants and incentives to people they didn't control and outside groups.

00:20:40.660 And now Trump is trying to dismantle that.

00:20:45.580 And now he's getting sued saying, ah, yeah, that's been allocated.

00:20:51.060 The government, they were given this money and funds were allocated.

00:20:54.380 It's like, he doesn't have to spend all this money on the exact program that Biden pushed.

00:21:00.380 Like, it's money for DOE.

00:21:02.360 If Trump doesn't want money at DOE being spent on DEI, he doesn't have to spend it.

00:21:07.780 To the point where, like, when I'm talking about this Vivek Murthy thing, it's a group

00:21:12.040 called Doctors for America.

00:21:13.820 And here's what they're complaining about.

00:21:15.960 This is a couple of webpages that they took down in the wake of Trump's anti-DEI executive

00:21:21.260 orders.

00:21:22.040 A webpage for the Youth Risk Behavioral Surveillance System.

00:21:26.920 I don't know what was on this page that Trump's team found objectionable, but it was probably

00:21:32.380 something to do with gender or, you know, minority, whatever.

00:21:36.100 Everything is seen through that lens.

00:21:38.380 So Murthy's team comes in and says, information from these webpages is important for understanding

00:21:43.780 the mental health challenges that youth face, including bullying and other safety issues

00:21:49.680 at school.

00:21:51.420 Like, and then they say, um, as well as the health related behaviors and exposures such

00:21:55.060 as electronic vaping and cigarettes and their potential effect on mortality.

00:21:59.840 You've got to be kidding me.

00:22:01.380 We, we now need a judge saying, I guess, health professionals are not going to understand the

00:22:07.940 negative effects of cigarettes or vaping unless Trump puts back up this one page that also

00:22:15.240 had DEI stuff on it.

00:22:16.660 These doctors can't wing it on the dangers of cigarettes and vaping.

00:22:22.180 And the second page was the environmental justice index.

00:22:26.780 The complaint was they delivered information that delivers a single rank for each community

00:22:32.600 to identify and map areas most at risk for the health impacts of environmental burden.

00:22:40.060 Their left wing green new deal agenda is no longer on the federal government's health pages.

00:22:48.600 And these doctors are trying to act like this is some sort of a health crisis because now

00:22:54.360 where are we going to know the worst, uh, risks are for the health impacts of the environmental

00:23:00.800 burden that we've been making up for 20 years.

00:23:05.020 Yeah, it's, it's funny.

00:23:06.700 These are all process people.

00:23:09.040 They like process.

00:23:10.300 They like paperwork.

00:23:11.700 They like conversations.

00:23:12.980 I, you know, what, what could you put on a website that would stop bullying or that

00:23:20.120 would, um, educate the bully or the, or the bullied, uh, on it's insane.

00:23:29.400 It's like when you watch the Superbowl and they run these spots saying stop hate.

00:23:34.520 What exactly does that mean?

00:23:36.460 Who are you speaking to?

00:23:37.980 How's this ever going to work?

00:23:39.380 I mean, thank God you got rid of the end racism in the end zone, but these bizarre platitudes,

00:23:45.880 like everyone has to read a brochure on something.

00:23:49.360 It's in, it's insane.

00:23:51.140 We're hurting people really.

00:23:52.840 They need to get back to a sort of common sense, horse sense, you know, just figure it

00:23:58.080 out yourself.

00:23:59.340 Um, a little, uh, you know, a little autonomy kids can figure it out.

00:24:04.560 You don't have to go to a webpage and read about vaping.

00:24:07.420 Plus, you know, as well as I do, this is their favorite thing is to force us to say and read

00:24:15.060 their words.

00:24:16.600 You will read my thoughts on the environmental catastrophe that we're facing.

00:24:23.440 You will read my thoughts on DEI and gender.

00:24:26.940 And it doesn't matter if I shoved them on some page that also speaks about cigarettes and

00:24:31.420 vaping.

00:24:31.760 The whole page must be saved because I need you and everyone to read my thoughts on gender.

00:24:38.260 That's what they're pissed about.

00:24:39.380 They're starting to lose the war on language control.

00:24:43.260 Well, that's the whole plan.

00:24:44.980 The whole plan is when the war of language and control everyone went, once you get the

00:24:52.040 language, then you get the control.

00:24:53.940 And that's why they pervert the language, you know, when Gavin Newsom came into this

00:24:59.560 studio and said, you know, half of Hispanic and half of blacks in California don't have

00:25:06.160 access to checking accounts.

00:25:07.880 It's like, what do you mean you don't have access?

00:25:10.660 They have access.

00:25:12.080 They choose not to get them.

00:25:13.500 Well, first off, you're lying.

00:25:14.680 It's not half.

00:25:16.180 It's not close to half.

00:25:17.420 But they say things like access, you know, like Hobby Lobby has denied access to birth

00:25:24.360 controls.

00:25:24.860 Like they don't deny access to it.

00:25:27.240 They're not paying for it.

00:25:29.000 I don't pay for lunch around here for my coworkers on a daily basis.

00:25:35.520 Sometimes I do, but generally they're in charge of their own lunch.

00:25:39.240 But I don't deny them access to a sandwich.

00:25:42.500 They can get it themselves.

00:25:44.000 So they take the language and they pervert it.

00:25:47.960 I mean, you know, they go from illegal alien to, you know, undocumented worker.

00:25:54.080 Now it's undocumented American.

00:25:56.260 So it's just basically someone who was born in the United States who left their passport

00:26:00.860 in the bathroom when they're at the airport.

00:26:04.760 It's insane.

00:26:05.900 Now, obviously, the reason they have to pervert the language is because their argument doesn't

00:26:11.480 make sense otherwise.

00:26:13.240 So when they, you know, denying women health care, it's like not health care.

00:26:18.320 We're against abortion, not health care.

00:26:21.140 That's different.

00:26:22.360 You know, even when they talk about when I was watching, I think Chris Hayes on Bill

00:26:29.840 Maher the other day making an ass of himself saying, well, you want to deny my transgender

00:26:35.460 child health care?

00:26:37.160 No, no, we want to deny your 13 year old from cutting off their penis.

00:26:42.520 That's not denying health care.

00:26:44.740 If you're if you're transgender child has appendicitis, then we would like them to have their appendix

00:26:52.640 removed.

00:26:53.100 But it's not denying health care to your transgender.

00:26:57.120 And the reason they have to pervert the language is because their argument is retarded and it

00:27:02.740 wouldn't make sense otherwise.

00:27:04.720 Yeah, it's the same way.

00:27:06.000 They make us call he's she's so that we're in the position of saying she can't come into

00:27:11.660 the women's locker room.

00:27:12.820 She can't come into the bathroom and undermine our argument right from the get go.

00:27:16.560 It's it's all part of the same game.

00:27:19.180 And it's all part of the confusion game, too.

00:27:23.080 Like when the L.A.

00:27:25.200 Times was reporting a story a couple of years ago in L.A., you may have heard about it, where

00:27:30.700 some like 25 year old dude went to a Denny's bathroom and raped a nine year old girl.

00:27:36.560 But now the 25 year old dude identifies as a woman and their pronouns are they.

00:27:42.500 So when they tell the story at the L.A.

00:27:45.740 Times, they go, well, the nine year old girl went to the bathroom and then she came into

00:27:51.180 the bathroom and they pulled out their phallus.

00:27:55.040 And it's like they she are these two people like it's all there for you to go.

00:28:00.720 All right, listen, I'm out.

00:28:02.240 Do what you want.

00:28:03.100 It takes some money.

00:28:04.100 I'm going home.

00:28:05.780 OK, so that leads me to I make it back to Elon in a bit, but I've got this is a great

00:28:10.580 segue into what's happening in Worcester, Massachusetts.

00:28:14.920 Now, we know Massachusetts is liberal, right, but they used to be not so far left that they

00:28:19.880 wouldn't elect a Republican governor.

00:28:21.880 Remember those days or, you know, Republican senator.

00:28:24.820 Remember Scott Brown back in the Bush years?

00:28:27.780 Now they're they've just gone around the bend.

00:28:30.660 And Worcester, Mass.

00:28:32.220 Massachusetts voted yesterday to make their city a sanctuary city for trans people, meaning

00:28:40.920 they're not going to comply with any of President Trump's mandates, EOs.

00:28:47.160 I mean, good luck.

00:28:47.740 This is flouting the law and we'll see how that works out for you.

00:28:51.020 But I just I would love for you to take a look at what what the people look like and how

00:28:57.620 they sound in Worcester, Mass, where this resolution to make Worcester, Mass, a sanctuary

00:29:02.920 city for trans people passed overwhelmingly because of testimonials like these.

00:29:10.480 I need the city to protect me because the federal government won't.

00:29:15.360 And if you think you're afraid of Trump, you should see how afraid of Trump I am.

00:29:20.700 I don't want to be here.

00:29:24.240 I'm sorry.

00:29:25.160 Am I taking too long pleading for my life?

00:29:27.620 You remembered how many children I have and how many and the two of them are trans.

00:29:32.940 I speak as both the B and the T in the LGBT.

00:29:38.780 I'm multiply disabled.

00:29:40.620 I have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, which is a connective tissue disorder that causes me immense

00:29:45.000 physical pain.

00:29:47.040 I I'm on the autism spectrum and I have narcolepsy and I couldn't drive myself here.

00:29:52.840 So I had to hide from my driver that I was in drag, which is not an easy thing to do in

00:29:59.680 drag.

00:29:59.840 I want to spend an hour applying glitter on my face so that you will hear and see me.

00:30:06.620 Can you look at me and tell me how many of my friends need to die before you do anything?

00:30:10.220 Please look at me.

00:30:12.960 Okay.

00:30:13.560 We're all done here.

00:30:16.280 Fucking pathetic.

00:30:17.600 It worked.

00:30:22.380 How can you?

00:30:23.820 The narcolepsy and the autism and some sort of syndrome that gives nerve pain and it's

00:30:30.100 hard to put the glitter on in the morning.

00:30:31.500 And the one guy who is, he's clearly a man wearing like a beanie, but his hair is long.

00:30:36.620 He's like later, he's like, I constantly get misgendered.

00:30:39.820 You're like, wait, what are you even trying to look female?

00:30:43.040 Is that there?

00:30:44.420 This is not a well group, but they are still winning in places like Worcester, mass, which

00:30:51.460 is just a little like a microcosm of explanation on how these insane policies got shoved into

00:30:59.880 these agencies to begin with, Adam.

00:31:03.560 Yeah, it's not narcolepsy, it's narcissism.

00:31:07.840 That's all these people are narcissists, supreme narcissists.

00:31:11.900 They sit around and they go, me, I have this.

00:31:14.440 What about me?

00:31:15.200 You know, they think Trump is a narcissist because he wears three piece suits and puts

00:31:22.180 on spray tan and has a pinky ring.

00:31:24.400 But the real narcissism is the world is coming for me.

00:31:28.480 They want me dead.

00:31:29.700 They can't take me.

00:31:31.820 That's a supreme narcissism.

00:31:34.520 And also, no one ever talks about it, but most of these people were victims growing up.

00:31:40.320 There's a lot of sexual abuse and a lot of victimizing as a very young person that then

00:31:46.160 translates into what you just saw as an adult.

00:31:50.100 And if anyone brings that up, it's a hate crime.

00:31:53.020 But from doing Loveline for 10 years, I've heard all the stories and I've seen a lot of

00:31:57.780 it.

00:31:58.500 These are people that were most likely molested and victimized as young people.

00:32:04.340 Then they got scrambled.

00:32:05.980 Then they got unleashed on us.

00:32:08.340 And now we have to listen to them.

00:32:10.320 Really, what they need is containment.

00:32:12.940 They don't need people agreeing with them or accommodating them.

00:32:16.880 They need guardrails.

00:32:18.260 It's essentially the same thing the homeless community needs.

00:32:21.740 They don't need compassion and understanding.

00:32:24.580 They need tough love, zip ties and a cot and a place to sober up.

00:32:30.400 Yeah, I'm really hoping they all just stay in Worcester.

00:32:32.540 Great.

00:32:33.020 Take them.

00:32:33.800 Terrific.

00:32:34.460 By the way, it's not just Worcester.

00:32:35.660 There's one in Sacramento, California, one of these sanctuary cities for trans people.

00:32:39.100 Ithaca, New York, not far from my own people, upstate New York, courtesy to ALX on Twitter

00:32:45.680 or X for that montage.

00:32:47.700 He he got his hands.

00:32:49.860 He got an access code and listened to that whole hearing.

00:32:51.980 And what was a gift to us all by showing us what's happening there.

00:32:56.260 These are not well people.

00:32:58.040 I mean, in on this council, there's one person who's their first openly non-binary member ever

00:33:04.900 elected to city council in 2022.

00:33:08.220 And this person has already stopped showing up at the meetings saying they're transphobic.

00:33:17.820 This city council that just voted nine to two in favor of those lunatics who paraded in front

00:33:22.300 of them, they don't want to show up, this non-binary member, because they think it's

00:33:27.220 a transphobic group.

00:33:29.380 They didn't like the pronouns.

00:33:31.680 They said one council member called this person it several times.

00:33:36.720 I mean, in that council member's defense, it's very confusing.

00:33:40.480 No one knows what to call most of these people.

00:33:43.340 Normally, the listening audience knows I'll describe to you what we're seeing on the screen

00:33:47.140 so you can have the visuals in your head.

00:33:48.820 That's impossible.

00:33:49.880 You have to just go to YouTube, go to, you know, 28 after the hour, and you look for

00:33:53.960 yourself at the parade of horribles that just showed up in that.

00:33:57.100 But it's not there.

00:33:58.280 We have to forge on without these people.

00:34:00.300 They should this.

00:34:00.980 All these pages should be scrubbed.

00:34:02.640 This and this ideology should be snuffed out.

00:34:06.320 We should stop pretending that it's real for these children.

00:34:09.960 Like, it's amazing to me that we still have people pretending this is an actual thing and

00:34:14.740 we need to cater to the woman with the narcolepsy and the autism spectrum and the whatever nerve

00:34:20.440 disease and the one worried about putting glitter on their face, whatever.

00:34:25.560 It was to seem like a woman with a beard and glitter.

00:34:28.520 Why aren't we already just forging on without them?

00:34:31.500 Or are we?

00:34:32.040 I think everyone is scared of being called prejudiced and they're scared of being called something

00:34:40.160 phobic.

00:34:40.720 And they're also scared of being labeled as old and set in their ways.

00:34:45.920 You know, we just got essentially burned during COVID by just a bunch of scared people.

00:34:52.880 You know, the New York Times just came out with an article about how bad it was to shut

00:34:56.580 down schools for as long as we did.

00:34:58.720 Uh, and it's most people wanted their kids to go to school, but we're scared to say anything.

00:35:05.200 So, you know, fear has, has turned into a driving force and these people understand it.

00:35:11.980 Like they understand that they're going to be loud.

00:35:15.260 They're going to be in your face.

00:35:16.460 You know, they have these city council meetings at one o'clock on a Tuesday.

00:35:20.600 Normal people are working.

00:35:22.780 Normal people are holding a job down and paying taxes.

00:35:26.400 It's these unemployable freak shows that show up, make the most noise while the rest of

00:35:32.040 us are at work.

00:35:32.880 And then the city council just goes, I don't want to deal with this.

00:35:36.500 Like anyone who has a child who's a loud child and they have another child who's a quiet

00:35:42.260 child, they'll just, they'll end up siding with the loud child just so they don't have

00:35:47.640 to deal with it.

00:35:48.680 Mm-hmm.

00:35:49.540 Mm-hmm.

00:35:50.360 Okay.

00:35:50.760 So this brings me to a group.

00:35:53.100 It's a government union called the American Federation of Government Employees.

00:35:58.240 And they are very upset about Doge and these cuts to federal spending, whether it's in the

00:36:05.520 form of invited, uh, retirements, early retirements or spending cuts.

00:36:10.520 And they, I mean, they might as well have just gone directly to Worcester, Mass., and recruited

00:36:16.520 from that collection for their little rally.

00:36:20.160 You never would have known the difference.

00:36:22.240 Here they were trying to rally their troops to march against Elon and Trump.

00:36:27.540 Take a look at these folks in SatNine.

00:36:28.760 Which side are you on?

00:36:33.320 Which side are you on?

00:36:36.080 Trump's coming for our unions.

00:36:39.500 He wants us all to fail.

00:36:42.440 He wants us to bow to him.

00:36:45.820 But we want him in jail.

00:36:48.660 Oh, which side are you on?

00:36:56.100 Adam.

00:36:56.580 Well, are you, I think Elon's probably scared.

00:36:59.640 What do you think?

00:37:00.180 Trump, he's scared.

00:37:02.060 You know, it is, I'll tell you what it reminds me of.

00:37:04.600 So when you see Chuck Schumer and Aunt Esther, who's Maxine Waters from Sanford and Son, and

00:37:14.660 all these other idiots out there, like these 75-year-olds, 80-year-olds, like waving their

00:37:20.680 canes.

00:37:21.560 And you know how, you know, Chuck Schumer does that thing where it's like, you will not be

00:37:25.640 able to hide.

00:37:26.840 You will feel our wrath.

00:37:28.440 We are coming for you.

00:37:29.800 We're fighting the streets.

00:37:31.280 We'll fight in the courts.

00:37:32.660 And it's got to be amusing to Elon Musk and Trump, as it is to us, these weird threats.

00:37:40.660 But you know what it reminded me of?

00:37:42.520 I was watching it the other day.

00:37:45.080 During the first, I think it was Desert Storm, back in the day when we would plan to invade

00:37:52.480 Iraq or Iran or some Middle Eastern country, at some point, one of their religious clerics

00:37:59.120 or moolahs would take to the microphone and go, if you Americans come in here, you will

00:38:05.980 feel the sting of Allah's sword upon your neck.

00:38:10.140 And then we go, all right, now let's get some A-10 warthogs and light you guys up.

00:38:15.800 And that's what we would do.

00:38:17.580 And so it's always weird that they make these big proclamations, but there's nothing to them,

00:38:23.900 and they can't do anything.

00:38:25.460 And I don't think we feel any fear from idiots breaking into song or making idle threats.

00:38:33.260 But the comical part is they don't know how comical they are.

00:38:38.160 Like they're, they, they must know on some level that they're being laughed at, right?

00:38:43.700 Oh, I, I've got to show you, I've got to show you this woman, Congresswoman Maxine Dexter,

00:38:50.180 a Democrat from Oregon who is at the rally where they were singing.

00:38:54.520 Speaking of, just, they don't know how dumb they sound.

00:38:58.340 Listen to her.

00:39:00.480 I just, I, I've been told I have 30 seconds.

00:39:03.120 So I am going to tell you that we do have to, I don't swear in public very well, but we have

00:39:11.620 to fuck Trump.

00:39:12.520 Please, please don't tell my children that I just did that.

00:39:26.540 I, I, I'm, I'm not sure, not sure she understands what she said or her core message there.

00:39:36.340 Yeah.

00:39:36.700 Um, well, like I said, I used to host the show called Loveline.

00:39:41.160 So I understand what she meant.

00:39:43.080 Yeah.

00:39:43.240 I mean, do you think it was like a, you know, like a Freudian slip?

00:39:46.520 She's actually desiring that.

00:39:48.060 It just kind of came out.

00:39:49.120 You know, I, there is a thing from the schoolyard from when we're kids, when you would tug on

00:39:57.480 the pigtail of the girl and say, I hate you, it meant I love you.

00:40:01.620 Right.

00:40:02.220 So I think there could be that psychodynamic at play.

00:40:05.840 Um, also it's crazy because there's a lot of swearing going on.

00:40:10.340 There was swearing, a lot of swearing.

00:40:12.780 And it, and it's, and, and they also, can you hold that thought?

00:40:16.740 Cause I just have one more.

00:40:17.840 I have one more montage to show you.

00:40:19.600 And it's got swearing to your point.

00:40:21.920 Look at this.

00:40:23.680 We will fight it out in the courts.

00:40:26.280 We will fight it out across this country.

00:40:29.340 And I promise you, we will win.

00:40:32.480 It's about stealing the personal data of Americans.

00:40:37.220 And it is about taking a lifetime of earned benefits, your social security benefits,

00:40:42.740 and turning it into a Bitcoin bank.

00:40:46.040 You're not going to sit around while you go ahead and desecrate our constitution.

00:40:52.300 We are going to be in your face.

00:40:54.220 We are going to be on your asses.

00:40:56.240 You and your little friend off of Twitter.

00:40:58.520 Y'all about to find out.

00:41:00.560 All right.

00:41:01.580 We will win.

00:41:03.460 We will win.

00:41:05.100 We won't rest.

00:41:07.200 We won't rest.

00:41:08.860 Elon Musk, where are you?

00:41:12.000 Bring your ass over here.

00:41:14.320 Why does Elon Musk want to get rid of all of this?

00:41:18.600 Because he's a thief.

00:41:20.260 He's a gangster.

00:41:21.400 We have to fuck Trump and be on your asses.

00:41:26.360 And Elon Musk needs to bring his ass over.

00:41:28.940 I'm sensing a theme.

00:41:30.260 Sensing a theme here.

00:41:32.140 But they also seem hysterical, unhinged, and just sort of unqualified.

00:41:39.960 You know what I mean?

00:41:40.820 Like, it's not the profanity per se, although that makes them seem, you know, a little, it

00:41:49.160 seems, beneath them, especially since their average age is 77 and a half.

00:41:54.480 But they also just seem incompetent.

00:41:58.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:41:59.180 Like, if the head of the FAA, you know, got up there and said, these stupid planes with

00:42:07.200 the goddamn air traffic controller people, like, fuck them, because of the stupid landing

00:42:15.220 gear or whatever you call it.

00:42:17.300 Like, you'd go, well, that person seems like an idiot.

00:42:20.380 And the person doesn't, they don't seem qualified, right?

00:42:23.760 They don't make any sense.

00:42:25.500 It also is like, Elon Musk, come down here.

00:42:28.680 Like, it's, you know, like you're in the UFC and Elon's in the crowd and you're challenging

00:42:34.400 him to a fight.

00:42:35.540 You know, it's, it's insane, but it's, it's comical.

00:42:39.480 It's, I, it's all like, all I can say.

00:42:42.500 You're so right.

00:42:43.720 That's such a good observation.

00:42:46.200 Fuck those pilots.

00:42:49.080 Stupid heads with their dumb cockpit thing or wherever they sit.

00:42:54.080 They're, they're, they're, they're steering wheel or, call it, yo?

00:42:58.100 You gotta, yeah, yo, whatever.

00:42:59.340 F them in the ass.

00:43:01.040 Yeah, F them stupid American Airlines that dump DC nines or whatever.

00:43:09.200 Yeah.

00:43:10.200 Okay.

00:43:10.680 They should come down here so I can punch them, but they're scared.

00:43:16.920 We're like, we were days away.

00:43:19.420 If Kamala Harris had won, we were days away from that.

00:43:22.440 But, um, contrast that with Elon Musk, okay, who had that presser yesterday.

00:43:27.560 It was just like methodically going through the issues that he was discovering.

00:43:32.200 He and his team, here he is on why the treasury department just pays.

00:43:36.660 They just pay everything.

00:43:38.580 Even if it's a suspect bill with our money, watch.

00:43:43.700 Common sense controls that should be present, uh, that, that haven't been present.

00:43:49.700 So you say like, well, how could such a thing arise?

00:43:52.040 Does that's, that seems, that seems crazy.

00:43:54.200 That when you understand that, that really everything is geared towards complaint minimization.

00:43:59.180 So that's, that, then you understand the motivations.

00:44:02.960 So if people receive money, they don't complain, obviously.

00:44:06.560 Um, but if people don't receive money, they do complain.

00:44:10.220 And, and the fraudsters complain the loudest and the fastest.

00:44:14.940 Let's get him.

00:44:16.480 Get on his ass.

00:44:18.120 It's like, he's just kind of helping us understand.

00:44:20.800 Well, it's to the point where, oh, it was AOC who called him stupid, right?

00:44:28.540 Yeah.

00:44:28.860 Yes.

00:44:29.760 Yeah.

00:44:30.040 So they're done.

00:44:31.720 They're out of stuff and, and they don't realize what they sound like when they talk that way.

00:44:38.700 But I guess they're part of being dumb is not knowing you're dumb.

00:44:42.980 Right.

00:44:44.260 Yeah.

00:44:44.840 I mean, and it tends to lead most people to be happy.

00:44:47.640 I know most people I know that seem very dumb, seem happy because they don't really know

00:44:51.340 what they're missing.

00:44:52.100 These people are miserable.

00:44:53.020 They have the worst combination, dumb and unhappy and bitter and mean.

00:44:56.960 That's, that's not a good combo.

00:44:58.360 And speaking of dumb, unhappy, bitter, and mean, I wanted to touch base on Gavin Newsom

00:45:03.220 because what's happened out in California where you live now is we saw the administrator

00:45:10.820 for the local, like, you know, parks and rebuilding, uh, say it's going to take a minimum

00:45:17.320 of 18 months to clear the burned houses and comply with EPA and do what they needed to

00:45:23.520 do to sort of rectify this, this site so that building can start again.

00:45:29.060 And Trump said, absolutely not.

00:45:31.160 That's too long.

00:45:32.120 And issued an executive order compelling the department of defense and EPA and others to

00:45:38.540 get in there and work to rectify this thing, to make it go much faster.

00:45:43.060 And lo and behold, it's working now, uh, in the wake of this, um, let's see, it's called

00:45:51.000 expediting waste removal.

00:45:52.400 His executive order on January 24th, um, not only provides water resources, but improves

00:45:56.940 the disaster response.

00:45:58.260 Secretary of Homeland Security was the other group and FEMA, um, saying, get in there, develop

00:46:03.120 a plan to expedite the bulk removal of contaminated and general debris.

00:46:06.220 Can't be waiting a year and a half for that to happen.

00:46:09.000 LA times recently reports it's working.

00:46:12.800 They say federal agencies have tripled the number of hazardous materials teams heading

00:46:17.860 out to the Palisades, Palisades and Eaton burn areas.

00:46:20.620 They also laid plans for having the EPA and army Corps of engineers work simultaneously on

00:46:24.680 different parts of the same site as part of the effort to speed things up by, by midweek,

00:46:29.100 LA County officials were offering a more accelerated debris removal timeline.

00:46:33.620 EPA's phase one started at projected three months.

00:46:36.420 It's now shortened to 30 days.

00:46:39.300 The one Republican supervisor, uh, on the, who's, uh, on the committee out there said

00:46:45.500 president Trump doesn't mess around and gave him credit for it.

00:46:48.780 And now you've got Gavin Newsom taking a victory lap saying this is the fastest large scale debris

00:46:57.660 removal operation in modern state history.

00:47:00.740 The speed of this cleanup is unprecedented.

00:47:03.580 We're cutting through the red tape to ensure this recovery moves at a record pace.

00:47:08.720 No, thanks to him, Adam.

00:47:12.860 I was there yesterday.

00:47:15.600 So yesterday for the first time I went to my home, uh, my neighborhood and it is total and

00:47:23.460 utter devastation.

00:47:24.960 And I can send you a few, few pictures, uh, but take my word for it.

00:47:31.040 Um, it was just the, the surface of the moon, but it's been over 30 days.

00:47:40.440 Uh, people keep saying to me, uh, when are you going back?

00:47:44.000 Cause my place didn't burn many places around most of the places around my place burn, but

00:47:49.560 my place is intact.

00:47:51.120 And the answer is I have no answer and nobody has any answers.

00:47:55.340 Uh, the water's back on, but the power's still off.

00:47:59.240 And there's no website where they'll tell you when you can move back to your home.

00:48:05.060 I've been living out of a suitcase for over a month.

00:48:08.920 Now, um, there was no signs of any cleanup of any kind.

00:48:14.640 There were lots of workers, lots of national guardsmen, lots of folks, uh, doing, uh, what

00:48:23.340 would be probably line work, you know, repairing phone, phone lines, uh, telephone poles, power

00:48:30.080 poles, things, things of that nature.

00:48:32.000 But there was zero dump trucks, zero bulldozers or bobcats.

00:48:37.280 There was zero debris removal.

00:48:39.760 So along PCH and, and up in the Hills where, where I was yesterday and I traveled entire

00:48:47.360 Pacific coast highway, uh, at least the burn zone and the Hills.

00:48:52.200 And I saw everything yesterday and they're 35 days in zero removal of debris.

00:49:00.700 Wow.

00:49:01.480 And that's with the EO and the additional federal response.

00:49:04.900 Well, Gavin Newsom is ready to spike the ball and take credit, uh, on all of it.

00:49:09.100 In the minute we have left, how's your time going on Dr. Drew's couch with your, what

00:49:13.500 you describe as your little bathrobe?

00:49:16.480 Um, well, I'm enjoying my time at Dr. Drew's house, but I'm starting to feel self-conscious

00:49:23.060 because I'm eating all his protein bars and drinking all this coffee.

00:49:27.920 And I actually got the offer from attorney Mark Ergo, so, you know, to move into his guest

00:49:34.160 house down the street.

00:49:35.420 So I, I think I told him last night, I think I'm going to take him up on that.

00:49:39.720 Cause I want to, do you guys watch TV together at night?

00:49:41.880 Do you do like real housewives, marathon, marathons?

00:49:44.100 What do you do?

00:49:45.460 Uh, I mean, I, we don't like spoon every night if that's what you're saying, but yeah, we,

00:49:52.800 you know, it's, it's winter out here and it gets cold in the foothills.

00:49:56.340 So I'm not going to apologize.

00:49:57.500 That's amazing.

00:50:00.900 He's a good friend.

00:50:01.800 So is Gary goes, I'm glad your house didn't burn.

00:50:04.140 I realize it's not that much of a consolation when it's completely covered in smoke and not

00:50:09.120 habitable.

00:50:10.200 So Godspeed.

00:50:11.980 Uh, thanks for being here, Adam.

00:50:13.100 All the best.

00:50:14.200 Thanks, Megan.

00:50:15.160 We're coming up next with Anna Kasparian.

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00:51:30.420 I just want to give you a quick update on two things that have happened.

00:51:37.600 This is just breaking.

00:51:40.400 Three more people have been released from Belarus.

00:51:44.900 Just trying to get my arms around the news right here.

00:51:47.360 One is a U.S. citizen who wants to remain private.

00:51:50.080 Two are non-Americans, including a Radio Liberty journalist.

00:51:54.040 So here we have at least one U.S. citizen now released from Belarus, most of whom most of

00:52:01.000 us didn't even know that there was an American citizen being held in Belarus.

00:52:04.260 And this is on the heels of another U.S. citizen being released by Russia.

00:52:11.420 His name is Mark Fogel, thanks to the work of Donald Trump.

00:52:15.240 He was over there teaching the children of diplomats and had been there for quite some time.

00:52:21.340 And he got arrested because he had marijuana, which he said he uses for medical purposes.

00:52:26.780 He had 17 grams of marijuana.

00:52:28.760 That actually led me to look up on my phone, how much is 17 grams of marijuana?

00:52:33.220 You know me, I don't know anything about these drugs.

00:52:35.420 But I did look up how much is 17 grams of marijuana.

00:52:38.900 And 14 grams is a half ounce.

00:52:41.320 And it looks like this.

00:52:43.080 I don't know if you can see this on my phone, but it looks like basically a bowl of lettuce

00:52:47.240 that you might put in a salad, maybe enough for two people to have a salad.

00:52:53.400 And they say that 14 ounces is worth, could basically get you 28 joints.

00:52:59.640 Now, this guy was using it, he says, for medicinal purposes.

00:53:05.240 But the Russians, as they have been known to do, decided to say that he was going to distribute

00:53:10.860 it.

00:53:11.160 He was basically there in Russia to become some sort of a drug dealer with what could turn

00:53:16.200 into 28 joints.

00:53:18.240 I mean, it wasn't going to be a very lengthy career.

00:53:20.560 I think he'd been over there for some 15 years.

00:53:22.880 So they took this guy, this American citizen, Mark Vogel.

00:53:26.820 They put him behind bars.

00:53:28.500 And the Biden administration completely forgot about this guy.

00:53:32.420 They completely, they didn't even designate him with the special sort of status that would

00:53:40.180 demand that we look into what's happening to him and start bargaining for his return.

00:53:44.720 They just kind of pretended that Mark Vogel didn't exist from the point he got arrested.

00:53:51.180 Meantime, after he was arrested in August 2022, they negotiated for the, at first they designated

00:53:58.020 Brittany Griner, that basketball player, as illegal detained.

00:54:01.620 They didn't do it for Vogel.

00:54:02.720 And then they went on to negotiate for Brittany's release, but they didn't do that for this guy,

00:54:09.040 Fogel.

00:54:09.820 A bipartisan group of U.S. senators lobbied the State Department to change his status so that

00:54:15.740 they could, he would be more likely to, you know, qualify for a negotiated release.

00:54:21.320 Biden wouldn't.

00:54:22.380 Um, it's been really strange how this guy's been completely left behind.

00:54:27.240 Then this guy, Fogel's mom, Malfine Fogel, age 95, showed up at the Pennsylvania campaign

00:54:33.880 rally where Trump was nearly assassinated.

00:54:37.120 And she told the New York Post that she explained to Trump that her son was in a Russian jail for

00:54:43.980 the same crime Brittany Griner committed.

00:54:47.440 Griner was in jail for 10 months before President Biden got her out.

00:54:49.960 She said, my son's been there for three years.

00:54:52.380 And I haven't heard from President Biden or from anyone in Washington.

00:54:56.340 Mr. Trump told me, if I get in, I will get him out and gave me a thumbs up.

00:55:01.500 He was very cordial and sincere.

00:55:04.720 And finally, in August of 2024, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan described Fogel as wrongfully

00:55:12.460 detained.

00:55:13.140 That was the first they'd ever done that, putting him back like on the block for negotiations.

00:55:17.860 It's just ridiculous.

00:55:18.960 And still remember that prisoner swap in August of 2024 when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris showed

00:55:25.420 up and it was like, who's trying to take credit for this?

00:55:27.900 What's happening?

00:55:28.780 He was not negotiated for and he was not part of that prisoner swap.

00:55:32.740 It's where we got the Wall Street Journal reporter, Evan Gurskowicz back.

00:55:36.200 Nope.

00:55:36.780 Left this guy, Fogel, behind.

00:55:38.920 And guess what?

00:55:40.340 Trump spent an office for three weeks and he got him.

00:55:42.560 He got him back.

00:55:44.660 It's amazing.

00:55:45.200 Here's the video of him greeting Mark Fogel at the White House yesterday.

00:55:49.820 Wow.

00:55:50.360 Well, here he is outside of Air Force One.

00:55:53.460 So his mom is thrilled.

00:55:56.680 Malfine Fogel said thank you to Fox via an interview.

00:56:00.760 Here's the proper video.

00:56:02.940 She said thank you to Trump on an interview with Fox yesterday.

00:56:06.340 Take a listen to that in South 13.

00:56:08.720 There's a chance he's watching or will see this.

00:56:10.840 What would you like to say to President Trump?

00:56:12.380 I would like to thank him profusely.

00:56:15.660 He promised me he would get him out and he kept his promise.

00:56:19.960 And I can't thank him enough.

00:56:22.420 And Secretary Rubio also and anybody else who's had a hand in this.

00:56:27.720 I'm sure there were quite a few that got the ball rolling.

00:56:31.660 But I particularly want to thank President Trump.

00:56:36.220 Amazing.

00:56:36.820 And here, look at this extraordinary tape.

00:56:39.480 Here is Mark Fogel in the White House.

00:56:42.980 This guy didn't even know that he was about to get released.

00:56:45.260 24 hours later, he's with the president in the White House.

00:56:48.840 And here's what he had to say.

00:56:51.540 I will forever be indebted, President Trump, to Steve over there.

00:57:00.040 What a dynamic man this guy is.

00:57:02.980 Steve.

00:57:04.320 I'm a middle class school teacher who's now in a dream world.

00:57:15.320 We're going to show you the Lincoln bedroom.

00:57:17.820 And I'm so happy to be back here.

00:57:20.940 And I wish I could articulate it better.

00:57:28.340 You've done beautifully.

00:57:29.460 And he's got a great mother.

00:57:32.120 And when I saw the mother at a rally, she said,

00:57:35.320 if you win, will you get my son out?

00:57:38.060 And I promise she's 95 years old.

00:57:40.780 And I said, we'll get him out.

00:57:42.400 And we got him out.

00:57:44.760 Wow.

00:57:45.580 And he did.

00:57:46.460 And now another American, still anonymous as of now, out of Belarus.

00:57:50.120 I mean, this is amazing.

00:57:52.380 Trump is on a roll, folks.

00:57:53.900 We'll see if he gets any credit from the left.

00:57:57.320 Here he is kissing the ground when he got off the plane.

00:58:00.700 If he gets any credit for this from the left.

00:58:02.880 I will say, credit where it's due.

00:58:04.160 John Fetterman praised him.

00:58:05.440 The guy, Fogel's from Pennsylvania.

00:58:07.340 So did Josh Shapiro.

00:58:08.680 Didn't exactly praise Trump, but said thank you to those at the White House who made his release possible.

00:58:14.140 And President Obama's former Russian ambassador, Michael McFaul,

00:58:18.280 he praised Trump directly.

00:58:20.120 And, I mean, it was explicit.

00:58:21.880 Praise be to President Donald Trump.

00:58:24.540 Not a phrase I get to say very often.

00:58:26.840 I give him a lot of credit for doing it.

00:58:29.320 I want to talk to Anna Kasparian now.

00:58:31.140 She is host and executive producer of The Young Turks.

00:58:33.620 And she's editor of the Unaligned Substack.

00:58:36.560 Been on the program once before.

00:58:38.000 Anna, welcome back.

00:58:39.380 What do you make of this?

00:58:40.080 I mean, it's amazing to see these Americans, all but forgotten, slowly but surely, returning home.

00:58:45.700 Well, I agree with you about forgotten Americans who have either been held hostage by, you know, authoritarian governments abroad.

00:58:55.660 It's terrible.

00:58:56.460 So when I see that photo of Mark Fogel kissing the ground, kissing America, essentially, you know, it's an emotional moment.

00:59:05.940 And this is one of the good things that the Trump administration has managed to do in the few short weeks that he's been in office for his second term.

00:59:14.820 So credit where credit is due.

00:59:16.560 Absolutely.

00:59:17.860 It does make you wonder why.

00:59:20.800 Why didn't we try harder under Joe Biden?

00:59:24.540 You know, like what what was the problem?

00:59:26.680 You know, because we had Rick Grinnell just got six Americans back home.

00:59:31.900 Belarus now releasing one.

00:59:33.480 Russia releasing Mark Fogel.

00:59:35.860 American hostages being held by Hamas.

00:59:38.400 Like, was it just a lack of caring?

00:59:41.400 It was like, this is how happening.

00:59:43.200 Literally, he hasn't even been in office a month.

00:59:46.080 Well, Megan, let me just tell you, I mean, while Biden was still in office, one of the things that really infuriated me was the story of a young American citizen, Isenor Ige, who was actually protesting with some activists in the West Bank in regard to the high civilian death toll in Gaza.

01:00:06.580 And Israeli snipers shot and killed her.

01:00:10.420 And the Biden administration did not care.

01:00:13.980 They pretended as though, you know, the Israeli officials had launched an investigation into it, and then we never heard about it again.

01:00:20.860 That was an American citizen, one of our own.

01:00:24.080 And I just think it's unacceptable.

01:00:27.540 So I wholeheartedly agree with anyone who's upset with any government official or administration that leaves our American citizens either in the hands of an authoritarian government or left to die with no real investigation and no real justice.

01:00:46.600 That is not leadership.

01:00:48.300 So I totally hear what you're saying.

01:00:50.100 Yeah, I'm not familiar with the case to which you referred, but there's no question, despite our, you know, closeness with Israel, when the IDF behaves terribly, they should be held to account and they shouldn't be in some special category where they're incapable of being criticized.

01:01:05.820 That's not what friendship is.

01:01:07.440 You know, we're talking about an American citizen.

01:01:09.200 That comes first.

01:01:09.900 What they're saying about Fogel is that we did do a prisoner swap for him.

01:01:15.920 We gave up some, I don't know, alleged, I don't know, I can't remember if it was an arms dealer.

01:01:20.060 It wasn't a great guy.

01:01:20.940 He was in prison over here from Russia.

01:01:24.200 But what is it, Deb?

01:01:25.340 Sorry.

01:01:26.820 Cyber crime?

01:01:27.480 Oh, cyber crime.

01:01:28.160 All right.

01:01:28.440 So that's not great, but maybe not as bad as arms dealer.

01:01:31.560 And that's, these things are always, they always require that kind of a thing.

01:01:35.100 You know, it's like, look, one in one, that, that's pretty good if you compare to like what's happening with Palestine and Israel right now, where they have to release like hundreds to get like two Americans out.

01:01:45.040 I just feel like none of this stuff was ever held against Joe Biden.

01:01:48.800 You never heard about it in the media.

01:01:50.480 This isn't the kind of thing that the media gives two shits about and that they're not going to give Trump any credit for.

01:01:54.980 And it's just my, I guess, relatively minor example of his deal making, which they kind of mock a lot in the press, but it really, it can be very effective.

01:02:06.140 Right.

01:02:06.640 I mean, look, I want to get our Americans back, right?

01:02:10.260 So if you have to make those types of deals, it is what it is.

01:02:14.020 And I'm sorry, leaving an American middle school teacher to die in a Russian prison or Belarusian prison, if you're talking about the other hostages that have been released, is unacceptable.

01:02:26.360 And so if you're willing to release someone who's accused of cyber crimes in order to get an American citizen back, I do think that's a deal worth taking.

01:02:34.340 And, you know, to your point about how there wasn't really much attention paid to these issues, especially, you know, the story of the woman that I'm talking about, the protester in the West Bank who was shot and killed.

01:02:47.680 I don't know if it's because of the political leanings of the individuals hired at these media organizations, because, look, now Donald Trump is in office and there is no shortage of critical reporting about his administration.

01:03:04.340 And I think there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's fact based and rooted in evidence.

01:03:09.380 But I feel that they kind of treated the Biden administration with kid gloves, just kind of took what the Biden administration had to say at face value.

01:03:19.060 I mean, look, the perfect example is the very obvious cover up of Biden's mental decline.

01:03:25.320 It wasn't something new.

01:03:27.000 There were complaints about that.

01:03:28.660 I remember on The Young Turks, we were concerned about that in 2020 when he was running for his first term.

01:03:34.340 And members of the media shut anyone down if they dare to question Biden's mental acuity, his ability to carry out the duties of a president.

01:03:46.020 And so I think that there's a real reckoning taking place right now in regard to our legacy media outlets.

01:03:52.580 You know, there are some changes being made because they've lost audiences.

01:03:55.920 They've lost subscribers and readers.

01:03:57.980 People are resorting to other independent sources to get their information because they have realized that they haven't been getting the full story.

01:04:05.600 And, look, I think one of the other big issues here is even in the context of independent media sources, they do tend to lean in one political direction or the other.

01:04:17.300 And when people are served up one side, we live in two different realities.

01:04:23.100 And I think we need to do a better job speaking with each other, ensuring that we are giving the audiences that trust us and the readers who read our work all the perspectives involved in any political debate so they're fully informed and they can decide for themselves where they land on the issue.

01:04:41.380 I don't think Americans are getting that right now.

01:04:44.080 Totally agree.

01:04:45.900 And on that score, I'm going to ask you what you think Trump's doing well and what he's doing poorly in one second.

01:04:50.640 But I just want to make one other point about Mark Fogle.

01:04:53.020 He was apparently very depressed.

01:04:55.320 He was sentenced to 15 years in a Russian prison for this 17 grams.

01:05:01.120 And when he wasn't part of the prisoner swap that Biden was part of in August of 2024, the Daily Wire obtained the audio tape of him talking about how his soul was dead.

01:05:14.380 He said, my soul is dead.

01:05:16.060 He said, I'm in a bottomless pit that keeps getting worse.

01:05:19.580 And Michael McFaul, former Russia ambassador under Obama, too, was saying he wasn't doing well.

01:05:25.060 He was very depressed.

01:05:26.400 He was not handling his circumstances well.

01:05:28.320 So I don't even know how close this guy was to the end of his life.

01:05:31.760 Potentially, he had two kids.

01:05:33.120 He has a wife.

01:05:34.220 He never would have seen his mom again had he served out this term.

01:05:37.380 It's a wonderful day that he is back home.

01:05:40.640 OK, so that's that story.

01:05:41.760 Let's switch gears.

01:05:42.540 So we talked in the first hour with Adam Carolla about how the left is very unhappy about Elon Musk, Doge and the cuts happening to government workers, you know, staff numbers and budgets.

01:05:54.780 So how do you think Trump is doing and what do you make of Elon so far?

01:06:00.040 Well, look, I certainly do have some concerns about the conflicts of interest that Elon Musk obviously has.

01:06:07.320 I mean, he's a very successful businessman.

01:06:09.920 He has multiple successful businesses.

01:06:12.160 And look, I get it.

01:06:15.140 He's already super wealthy.

01:06:16.540 And people think, oh, he's not going to abuse the power that's been given to him by Trump because he doesn't need any more money.

01:06:22.720 That doesn't matter.

01:06:23.820 I mean, look, the most important thing, the most valuable thing that tech CEOs want is data.

01:06:31.120 Data is power.

01:06:32.420 Data fuels their businesses.

01:06:34.040 And so the idea that someone like Elon Musk, who is in the tech industry, having all this access to our private personal information makes me incredibly uneasy.

01:06:44.760 I also, by the way, agree that there is waste in our federal government.

01:06:49.640 There is bureaucracy that needs to be cut down in our federal government.

01:06:52.900 And if you go back to the Clinton administration, I mean, he got rid of hundreds of thousands of federal workers.

01:07:00.900 And I think that that did bode well for our economy.

01:07:04.680 I mean, that was the last time we had an economic surplus in the United States.

01:07:08.080 Now, of course, he implemented higher taxes for the top marginal tax rate and stuff like that.

01:07:14.560 But when it came to getting rid of the bureaucracy under the Clinton administration, there was more of a review process.

01:07:21.440 And it wasn't this, you know, blind cutting of entire, you know, departments or agencies.

01:07:29.600 And so I wish there was more method to it, more of a review to ensure that we're actually getting rid of individuals that we don't really necessarily need in our government.

01:07:39.520 I don't like the fact that he has not.

01:07:42.540 Well, Elon Musk didn't do this, but Russell Vought, who's now the head of the Office of Management and Budget and the deputy head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

01:07:51.440 Has effectively halted all operations at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

01:07:56.460 I do not agree with that at all.

01:07:58.200 That's literally the only federal government agency that's doing oversight of how the big banks are treating American citizens.

01:08:05.520 They've returned twenty one billion dollars to Americans who have been defrauded by financial institutions.

01:08:11.380 So that's where I have, like, the biggest disagreement right now.

01:08:14.840 But in regard to, you know, doing an overview of what's happening with USAID, I have no problem with that.

01:08:20.960 I think that there were good programs mixed in with a lot of waste and a lot of bad programs.

01:08:25.300 And hopefully we can bring those good programs back because, you know, building alliances and relationships through soft power, especially in African countries, which China is competing with us in basically having influence on.

01:08:41.280 I think that's something we need to be considerate of.

01:08:44.440 I mean, the the Chinese want to have access to minerals, natural resources, all sorts of things that the United States wants in Africa.

01:08:53.440 And so when we cut down on programs that specifically help, you know, individuals who are suffering from AIDS, HIV, things like that, malaria, well, we're basically destroying a relationship that's not just beneficial to the individuals we're helping in these countries, but also beneficial for the United States and our own economic interests.

01:09:14.580 So I think that's a fair point.

01:09:16.020 And I actually think that there's not really a desire by Trump or anybody else to cut like the funding we were doing for women and their babies who are born with HIV.

01:09:25.060 I actually think that just got swept up because the whole program was such a mess and had been so corrupted.

01:09:30.620 It was like, no, we're stopping it.

01:09:32.920 And I think that will probably come back, not only because it's the right thing to do, but because we do worry about China stepping in and becoming like the big brother and getting more closely aligned with these countries that right now are grateful to the United States for all the help that we give to them.

01:09:47.300 It's just that it got so corrupted by all these other weird far left DEI things that they were like, let's just know, like it's stopping right now.

01:09:56.480 And then we can, we can start again.

01:09:57.840 And I think that will start again.

01:09:59.260 But let me ask you, let's talk about this Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which I think most people don't even know anything about, to be honest with you.

01:10:05.940 But it was started, it's kind of an Elizabeth Warren project.

01:10:10.360 It was started after the big bank meltdown in 08 to like try to make sure something like that doesn't happen again, where there's this collusion within the financial industry on mortgages or something related that winds up really screwing over the consumers.

01:10:25.640 In many instances, first with the mortgages and the collapse, and then with us having to bail out the banks, like the hope is that they'd protect something like that from happening, prevent it from happening again.

01:10:37.640 But here, so on Friday, Elon Musk posted on his X page saying, CFPB, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, RIP, with the tombstone emoji.

01:10:48.080 The CFPB's ex-account has since been deleted.

01:10:53.600 And Trump also announced that they are closing the offices of the CFPB for the coming week.

01:11:00.420 And Russell Vogt, director of OMB, said that we would, he ordered the staff there to cease all supervision and examination activity and cease all stakeholder engagement and said he would not take the next drawdown of funding from the Federal Reserve for this group.

01:11:17.260 So they say that this is why they did it.

01:11:20.480 The White House put out a statement saying this is another one of those agencies that's just lost its way, right?

01:11:27.360 Like it's not doing just the main thing that I think you and I are both are happy for them to do.

01:11:33.280 They say this, CFPB used its slush fund collected from targeting these financial institutions to support radical advocacy groups.

01:11:40.600 One such group is the Soros-backed Mississippi Center for Justice, which advocates for racial and economic justice, targets religious liberty, assists illegal immigrants seeking to skirt our nation's law.

01:11:51.460 Another is the Legal Aid Society of D.C., whose board features senior left-wing officials, has lobbied hundreds of thousands of times for more welfare spending.

01:11:58.800 That the group threatened banks for refusing to lend to illegal immigrants.

01:12:02.760 They targeted Chicago small business after a complaint about the city's rampant crime.

01:12:06.880 It was accused of mining Americans' citizens' personal financial information, with a 2017 Inspector General report raising significant concerns about data security, etc.

01:12:16.540 They're saying the same thing happened here as happened to USAID, which is why they're doing those things that I listed at the top.

01:12:24.080 Yeah, so let me just preface this by saying I don't take anything that the left says at face value.

01:12:32.680 I also don't take anything the right says at face value.

01:12:34.860 So there have been instances where the right has claimed something.

01:12:37.620 The left says, no, that's not happening.

01:12:39.680 I look into it and it turns out the right is actually correct.

01:12:43.380 In fact, USAID is a perfect example.

01:12:45.840 There were incredibly wasteful programs within USAID, as Democrats pretend like there were no wasteful programs.

01:12:53.520 And so, look, the CFPB is something that I have been kind of passionate about throughout my career.

01:13:01.120 I was supportive of it being developed.

01:13:04.300 It was Elizabeth Warren's project before she was even a senator.

01:13:07.700 She wasn't in the Senate at the time.

01:13:09.160 And she really had to push Barack Obama, who was insanely friendly to the banks, to actually do something on behalf of the American people who had been defrauded and who had been preyed upon by the big banks in the lead up to the 2008 economic collapse.

01:13:26.260 So all the claims that you listed, I have looked into and they are unfounded.

01:13:30.320 OK, so what the how the CFPB operates is they receive money from the Federal Reserve, not from taxpayers.

01:13:37.580 So the Federal Reserve allocates about seven hundred million dollars so they can carry out investigations of wrongdoing by, you know, payday lenders, big banks.

01:13:50.180 You get the picture or other financial institutions through that money, which is honestly a small sum.

01:13:56.700 They have been able to return twenty one billion dollars to Americans who had been defrauded or screwed over or ripped off by the banks.

01:14:05.480 Other things that they've done is they have basically made it so your medical debt cannot be used on your credit report to prevent you from being able to rent a home, an apartment.

01:14:18.980 They've ensured that overdraft fees are not predatory and they're capped at eight dollars as opposed to thirty five dollars.

01:14:27.500 That's good. So so they've done some really, really good things on behalf of the American people.

01:14:32.560 Look, I am disgusted with our federal government. OK, all these federal agencies have not carried out what their intended duties have been.

01:14:42.980 I think that they have kind of lost their way in some cases.

01:14:46.160 And I do agree that there's a lot of bureaucracy and a lot of waste.

01:14:48.980 The CFPB is not an example of that. And I'm really saddened to see that there's a real effort here to essentially dismantle it.

01:14:56.880 And I was listening. Why do you think they're doing a chair if you don't and I'll tell you why not look beyond the White House's assertions that these are problems and that's what they're trying.

01:15:04.680 So I'll take your word for now that you've looked into it and you don't believe they're viable, that that's that they're true.

01:15:09.620 But why do you if that's true, then why are they doing this?

01:15:14.040 So I'll tell you why. You know, I'm most concerned about the influence that the tech industry and tech CEOs have on the Trump administration.

01:15:23.060 So people like Mark Andreessen, for instance, he went on Joe Rogan's podcast and he claimed that the CFPB is debanking people when it's actually the opposite.

01:15:32.900 The CFPB goes after banks that debank individuals over their political leanings or political views.

01:15:39.980 They actually have gone out of their way to try to protect Americans who have been debanked.

01:15:44.320 The CFPB, though, does go after individuals who are engaging in things like money laundering, right, who are maybe part of the fintech industry and are using that sector to carry out nefarious actions.

01:16:00.820 And so they don't want to cop on the block.

01:16:03.740 And these are people who have been cozying up to Trump.

01:16:07.200 And that is really concerning because I think Trump has some good ideas, but he's also very transactional.

01:16:13.280 And so if these individuals have donated a significant sum of money to his campaign, well, he's going to return the favor in some way.

01:16:20.940 And so that's what I'm most worried about.

01:16:23.580 If American people notice that there's no cop watching what Wall Street's up to, that might end up, you know, ricocheting onto Donald Trump and it might actually hurt him politically.

01:16:35.340 So we'll see what happens.

01:16:36.660 But CFPB was, again, one of the only federal government agencies that was looking out for the best interests of Americans who were getting ripped off by big banks.

01:16:45.080 It's very interesting.

01:16:46.080 That's a good alternate side of it.

01:16:47.940 Um, what did you make of Elon at the White House yesterday?

01:16:50.580 Because he was up there sort of serially going through some of the things that have been said about him and then some of the things that he says he's finding.

01:16:57.880 And one of the most interesting things was he was talking about how it's so hard to fire people, but how there's a maximum of 10,000 people who can be fired from the federal government in a month because they have to go through some just antiquated exchange of forms that goes down literally into a mine, like an actual mine.

01:17:16.200 And, well, I'll let him explain it.

01:17:18.020 Stand by.

01:17:18.660 It's, uh, top three.

01:17:20.940 Well, it's, if people can retire, you know, with full benefits and benefits and everything, that would be good.

01:17:27.020 They can retire, get their retirement payments, everything.

01:17:29.640 And then we were told, this is actually, I think, a great anecdote, uh, because we're told that the most number of people that could retire possibly in a month is 10,000.

01:17:37.140 And we're like, well, why, why, why is that?

01:17:40.180 Well, because all the, all the retirement paperwork is manual on paper.

01:17:45.520 It's manually calculated, then written down on a piece of paper.

01:17:48.300 Then it goes down a mine.

01:17:50.480 And I'm like, what do you mean a mine?

01:17:51.880 Like, yeah, there's a limestone mine where we store all the retirement paperwork.

01:17:58.020 That, look, and you look at a picture of, at a picture of this mine.

01:17:59.860 We'll post some pictures afterwards.

01:18:00.880 Um, and this, this mine looks like something out of the 50s because it was started in 1955.

01:18:06.960 So it looks like, it's like a time warp.

01:18:10.220 And then the speed, then the limiting factor is the speed at which the mine shaft elevator can move determines how many people can retire from the federal, federal government.

01:18:21.120 And the elevator breaks down sometimes, and then you can't, nobody can retire.

01:18:26.580 Doesn't that sound crazy?

01:18:29.200 I think that's, does.

01:18:30.320 Very effective, right?

01:18:31.560 It sounds crazy.

01:18:32.160 And I think the average person staying at home is like, like drinking this in, right?

01:18:36.440 Like, wow, here's, here are pictures of the mine.

01:18:38.340 This is so weird.

01:18:39.160 Why are we doing this in such an antiquated way?

01:18:41.260 This is not a good use of our taxpayer dollars.

01:18:44.700 Wow.

01:18:45.500 Yeah, look, I haven't looked into his claims.

01:18:48.420 So I don't know for sure if the way he described it is entirely accurate.

01:18:53.060 I think there are two things happening here, right?

01:18:55.540 So there is the message, right?

01:18:57.860 And so I think a lot of what he says needs to be fact-checked.

01:19:01.480 And I haven't been able to do that yet.

01:19:02.620 By the way, there are a lot of fact-checks by the left of Elon today saying it's true.

01:19:07.240 Interesting.

01:19:07.820 Okay.

01:19:08.140 So that's, that's fascinating.

01:19:09.860 But I want to just talk about the optics and the politics of, of what happened last night,

01:19:15.260 because I know the Democrats are being super critical because at the end of the day, Elon

01:19:21.560 Musk is a billionaire.

01:19:23.640 He's got conflicts of interest.

01:19:25.000 And so it's rich to hear someone like Elon Musk tell us, just trust me, we're doing everything

01:19:30.320 right.

01:19:30.640 It's all above board.

01:19:31.520 At the same time, though, when you compare what appears to be quite a bit of transparency

01:19:37.960 in this new Trump administration versus the lack of transparency we received during the

01:19:43.980 Biden administration.

01:19:45.640 Well, I mean, optically speaking, I think most Americans are going to have this sense that,

01:19:52.680 you know, Trump is telling the truth.

01:19:55.020 He wants to be honest with us.

01:19:56.260 He's calling it like it is.

01:19:57.520 You know, he's constantly in the media, constantly doing press conferences.

01:20:01.800 And so I think that is a, an important thing for the Democratic Party to maybe soak in and

01:20:08.840 realize, you know, if you're going to try to hide from your voters, if you're going to try

01:20:12.480 to hide the ball from your base, it's not going to bode well for you.

01:20:17.160 The optics of transparency is important.

01:20:19.740 Actually being transparent is more important.

01:20:22.340 And so it really remains to be seen if if Elon Musk was telling the truth about everything

01:20:28.000 he said during that Oval Office press conference.

01:20:30.900 But again, I just want to reiterate, I don't feel comfortable with someone who's still very

01:20:37.120 much invested in these private businesses, you know, seeming to call the shots when no

01:20:42.540 one elected him.

01:20:43.460 I also didn't like the optics of Donald Trump kind of like quietly sitting at a desk with

01:20:47.620 Elon Musk kind of hovering above him and kind of commanding the room.

01:20:52.600 I feel like that looked a little bad, but I'm curious.

01:20:55.420 Only because Trump Trump let him command the room.

01:20:57.940 I mean, it was no different from when I appeared at the Trump rally in Pittsburgh and Trump

01:21:01.840 stepped away from the microphone and then said, go ahead, Megan.

01:21:04.360 And he was standing off to the side.

01:21:05.640 Didn't make me look like the president.

01:21:06.960 It's like he I had the mic because he gave it to me and I would lose the mic if he said,

01:21:12.120 stop talking.

01:21:13.140 Same as Elon.

01:21:13.780 I will say this.

01:21:15.740 This is Washington Examiner and Washington Post this morning.

01:21:20.020 Washington Examiner.

01:21:20.840 The mine complex is owned by Iron Mountain, which leases out caverns for storage.

01:21:25.860 And we were using Manhattan mini storage all those years in New York.

01:21:29.460 The government moved its old records there in 1960.

01:21:32.700 The mine, which holds employees in the government's Office of Personnel Management, has been trying

01:21:36.940 to revolutionize its process for decades without success.

01:21:39.540 The government's been trying to automate the mine's work since at least 1981.

01:21:43.580 At least 100 million has been spent on the effort to automate the work there.

01:21:46.680 And it's not happening.

01:21:48.020 Washington Post reported from inside the mine in 2014, the five step process for a worker's

01:21:53.360 retirement papers just to be fully processed, like just to get them and process them.

01:21:58.780 First step, a worker files the retirement paper and the paperwork is shipped to the facility.

01:22:03.360 Once it arrives, a worker must match it up to other paper records or scan them into a digital

01:22:07.440 database.

01:22:08.260 All the paperwork must be placed into a file.

01:22:10.800 Missing paperwork must be acquired from other federal agencies.

01:22:13.720 That paperwork is then turned into a digital file reviewed separately by another employee.

01:22:17.980 It took at least 61 days on average then the same amount of time it took in 1977, when I

01:22:25.180 am going to guess you were not even born.

01:22:27.280 This is so sad.

01:22:28.720 I mean, I think people get it's just right that the government sucks.

01:22:32.420 And this is part of why Trump got elected, right?

01:22:34.320 It's like you don't expect him to do it perfectly.

01:22:36.300 You don't expect it to be all T's dotted or all I's dotted and T's crossed.

01:22:39.880 But you want the bull going into this China shop and saying, why the F are we using a

01:22:45.660 mine that we were using in 1977?

01:22:50.400 Yeah.

01:22:51.160 And look, we all know what we pay in taxes every year.

01:22:55.120 And it is incredibly frustrating to see where the money actually gets spent, how little of

01:23:02.620 it goes toward modernizing our systems, and essentially how little of it goes to making

01:23:10.220 the lives of American citizens better.

01:23:12.920 There is a lot of waste.

01:23:15.340 I mean, look, one of the main things that drives me crazy is how year after year with little

01:23:20.460 debate, the Congress approves more and more money for the Pentagon.

01:23:26.480 I mean, the defense budget is is very rapidly approaching a trillion dollars a year.

01:23:31.780 And so there has been some talk about focusing on some waste.

01:23:35.360 I mean, the Pentagon has failed every single audit seven years in a row.

01:23:39.640 And so I'm excited to see what Doge focuses on in regard to the Pentagon.

01:23:45.440 The other issue is the fact that-

01:23:46.360 And Hegseth has welcomed them to come in.

01:23:47.880 Hegseth wants that too.

01:23:49.560 So we'll see what they cut and see how much of a difference it makes.

01:23:52.780 The other area where I think that Trump can really make a difference, and I think he would

01:23:57.120 go down as a historic president, is if he allowed for our Medicare system to negotiate

01:24:04.860 drug prices, just negotiate drug prices.

01:24:07.180 He's not going to do anything, right?

01:24:08.720 He's not going to touch Medicare or security with reform or anything because he's a smart

01:24:13.900 politician.

01:24:14.840 They all know if they say anything about Medicare or Social Security, they're not going to win.

01:24:19.200 So all of the efforts have been outside of those two groups, which, of course, are the

01:24:22.360 main groups behind entitlement spending.

01:24:25.340 And I mean, that would really show.

01:24:27.040 You want to see Trump proving he has a steely spine and he doesn't give a shit?

01:24:31.040 Go do something about that over there.

01:24:33.940 Right.

01:24:34.160 It's not going to happen.

01:24:35.380 But he would go down as the most popular president in American history if he allowed for Medicare

01:24:42.060 to negotiate drug prices.

01:24:43.700 So Americans and our Medicare system wasn't being price gouged by pharmaceutical companies.

01:24:48.820 Why won't he do that?

01:24:49.660 I mean, I know why he won't lower the retirement age for Social Security and he doesn't want

01:24:53.620 to make any Medicare cuts or do anything that's going to increase costs for seniors.

01:24:56.720 But why wouldn't he allow Medicare to negotiate costs?

01:25:00.640 Honestly, I think if this issue was brought to him by by anyone in a very serious way, he

01:25:06.740 would attempt to do it.

01:25:07.880 He doesn't really care about maybe what is or is it allowed.

01:25:11.220 Right.

01:25:11.480 So, yeah, I mean, that would be incredible.

01:25:13.740 I don't think that he's paying attention to that.

01:25:15.960 But I think if you talk to him and ask him to work on that issue, it could really save

01:25:22.780 the American taxpayers a lot of money.

01:25:25.860 That would be fantastic.

01:25:26.400 I mean, this isn't something I spent a lot of time on, but like this sounds like something

01:25:30.540 that wouldn't typically be done because most people are beholden to the drug companies

01:25:33.720 who don't want this.

01:25:35.820 And our KJ is not beholden to the drug companies.

01:25:38.740 That's one of the great things about him.

01:25:40.000 That's that's one of the things the left hates about him.

01:25:42.900 But he, you know, technically oversees Medicare now and well, when he gets confirmed, which

01:25:48.560 is going to be tomorrow.

01:25:49.540 And Dr.

01:25:51.240 Oz directly oversees Medicare and Medicaid.

01:25:53.300 And so, like, maybe I'm wrong.

01:25:55.700 Maybe they actually will touch the untouchable.

01:25:59.860 I would embarrass Democrats so much if they managed to do that.

01:26:02.980 It would be the most embarrassing thing for Democrats who claimed who claimed under the

01:26:07.140 Biden administration that they were going to do it.

01:26:09.580 But they're beholden to the pharmaceutical companies as well.

01:26:12.300 And so they whittled, whittled down that part of the agenda to 10, 10 drugs that the

01:26:20.200 Medicare system can negotiate.

01:26:22.240 I mean, it's pathetic.

01:26:23.300 It really is.

01:26:24.280 And by the way, hasn't Trump already done enough for the big pharma with the, you know, Operation

01:26:30.920 Warp Speed and the vaccines and the liability shield over companies like, you know, Pfizer?

01:26:36.000 Like that's he's done enough for them.

01:26:37.360 He doesn't need to keep protecting them.

01:26:38.900 This would be a great thing to consider.

01:26:41.160 All right.

01:26:41.760 Stand by.

01:26:42.240 We're going to take a quick break.

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01:28:59.080 Okay, I want to talk to you about a couple of things from the Super Bowl.

01:29:06.100 I was at the Super Bowl, and the one disadvantage of being at the Super Bowl is you don't get

01:29:10.800 to see the ads.

01:29:12.140 And they're kind of fun to watch, and they're always fun to rip on, right?

01:29:16.300 And I miss that experience.

01:29:17.680 So slowly but surely, I am getting to them.

01:29:19.680 Here we are on Wednesday, and I still have two I haven't talked about.

01:29:23.100 And I'd love to do that with you.

01:29:24.180 Okay, so first of all, Jennifer Say, who used to work at Levi's and was a star gymnast when

01:29:31.880 she was younger, she started this company, XXXY, and she's been pressuring Nike to try

01:29:36.140 to do an ad, to try to get them to do an ad.

01:29:38.680 Her ad has all these little girls saying, will you stand up for me, Nike?

01:29:41.520 Will you stand up for me to try to keep boys out of girls' sports?

01:29:44.300 Will you stand up for me?

01:29:45.680 Of course.

01:29:46.500 So Nike does an ad, and it's about girls.

01:29:48.680 Great.

01:29:49.080 We're halfway there.

01:29:50.140 And is it about keeping boys out of their sports?

01:29:52.140 No, it's about how, I guess, America is full of sexist pigs and girl power.

01:29:58.780 Watch the ad.

01:30:01.100 You can't be emotional, so be emotional.

01:30:04.680 You can't take credit.

01:30:05.940 You can't speak up.

01:30:06.900 You can't be so ambitious.

01:30:07.940 You can't break records.

01:30:08.660 You can't have any fun.

01:30:09.660 You can't make demands.

01:30:10.880 You can't keep score.

01:30:11.780 You can't stand out.

01:30:12.680 Whatever you do, you can't win.

01:30:14.840 You can't win, so win, is how the screen reads.

01:30:31.000 I'm sorry, Anna.

01:30:32.460 They missed the boat entirely.

01:30:34.740 That is not today's issue.

01:30:36.420 They are ignoring the elephant in the living room.

01:30:39.120 What do you make of it?

01:30:39.780 I mean, I would have tweaked it for sure, but not by much, just a little bit.

01:30:45.540 I would have just showcased these incredibly successful, strong, accomplished women without

01:30:51.880 having that tinge of victimhood associated with it.

01:30:57.000 Yes.

01:30:57.740 Yes.

01:30:58.020 Because these women have accomplished amazing things.

01:31:00.480 They're incredible.

01:31:01.080 And I feel like it kind of takes away from their accomplishments to add that weird victimhood

01:31:07.820 thing to it.

01:31:08.640 Like, look, this is the reality, okay?

01:31:10.640 Are there misogynistic people out there?

01:31:12.740 Sure.

01:31:13.320 Yeah, there are.

01:31:14.800 But steamroll them, okay?

01:31:17.380 Steamroll them like these women did, okay?

01:31:19.700 They don't control us, and they don't control our destiny.

01:31:22.940 If you're willing to work hard, if you're willing to focus and be persistent, you can do anything

01:31:28.040 you want to do, period.

01:31:29.300 And these women did.

01:31:31.360 So I just, as a woman, I don't want to deal with the, just like the incessant labeling

01:31:40.080 of like victimhood because of my identity, right?

01:31:42.860 And I think that happens to a lot of different groups.

01:31:45.880 I went to college from 1988 to 1992, as I'm an old lady.

01:31:50.500 And these were the messages they were telling me when I was 17 through 21 about being a

01:31:57.840 woman in America.

01:31:58.720 Like, you can be emotional.

01:32:00.220 You can be ambitious.

01:32:01.600 You know, you can stand out.

01:32:03.020 You can win.

01:32:03.740 Like, hello, would you, Nike, you know, 2025 called.

01:32:07.600 And they want an updated ad that matches the issues of the day, like what's happening in

01:32:12.800 girls' sports.

01:32:13.560 And not to be outdone, the NFL decided to drop its own ad for a reason, that it remains

01:32:19.880 a mystery to me, that is completely consistent with what we just saw from Nike trying to highlight

01:32:26.700 what a sexist society we live in.

01:32:28.880 And the ending left me like, eh, watch.

01:32:33.320 Enough.

01:32:34.300 Let's settle this once and for all.

01:32:36.700 Your best guy.

01:32:37.880 Girl.

01:32:38.480 Whatever.

01:32:39.400 Versus our best guy.

01:32:41.280 The Brad.

01:32:42.500 Brad.

01:32:43.120 Brad.

01:32:43.700 Brad.

01:32:44.340 Brad.

01:32:45.040 Not the Brad.

01:32:46.740 Brad.

01:32:47.040 Brad.

01:32:47.540 Brad.

01:32:48.040 Brad.

01:32:48.440 Brad.

01:32:48.620 Brad.

01:32:49.120 Brad.

01:32:49.340 Brad.

01:32:49.620 Brad.

01:32:50.540 I'm Brad.

01:32:52.260 I can read.

01:32:58.880 There you go.

01:33:07.880 You got folded up, Brad.

01:33:09.560 Get her.

01:33:11.380 Okay, okay, that's what I'm talking about.

01:33:14.160 Ha-ha!

01:33:15.200 Oh!

01:33:18.560 Leave the past behind.

01:33:22.960 Now it's girls playing flag football against other girls.

01:33:26.540 Let's make girls flag football a varsity sport in all 50 states.

01:33:36.400 Okay, help me out here because, again, this whole thing seems to be set in the 1980s.

01:33:41.260 They've got, like, the razor glasses.

01:33:43.900 The guy's got a mullet.

01:33:45.500 He has the collar turned up.

01:33:47.380 They've got the rock band.

01:33:49.480 And they're trying to pretend that this girl, when playing against a team of the Brad's,

01:33:54.740 who are, of course, doofuses, because the left loves to portray men, especially white

01:33:59.500 men, but all men, as just a bunch of, like, clawed doofuses.

01:34:03.580 And she smokes them all, which is not how it would actually go at all.

01:34:07.420 I mean, what's actually happening when girls are playing against boys is they're getting

01:34:11.120 hurt.

01:34:11.580 They're getting beaten.

01:34:12.760 They're in danger.

01:34:13.540 They're getting all their teeth knocked out.

01:34:15.020 They're in the pool with the likes of Leah Thomas, and they're getting absolutely crushed

01:34:17.940 by full body lengths.

01:34:19.120 That's what actually happens, because women are at a physical disadvantage.

01:34:22.800 But in this imaginary NFL world, women are crushing the Brad and guys like him because

01:34:28.000 girl power.

01:34:29.080 And all of this is to promote girl football, which is against other girls, Anna.

01:34:33.700 So help me out.

01:34:34.480 What is what is the NFL saying here?

01:34:37.660 I hate this crap.

01:34:38.920 I hate all of this crap.

01:34:39.940 OK, we just got through with an election cycle that really highlighted significant divisions

01:34:46.020 between men and women.

01:34:47.340 I feel like there's this effort to pit Americans against each other, depending on their identity

01:34:55.640 or based on their identity.

01:34:57.360 I don't see men as the enemy here.

01:35:00.040 OK, I think men in America have their own issues that need to be addressed.

01:35:06.400 Obviously, the male loneliness crisis is a real crisis.

01:35:09.620 If you look at graduation rates, women are graduating at higher rates than men are from higher education,

01:35:16.560 from colleges and institutions like that.

01:35:19.560 And so, look, I just think we need to heal.

01:35:23.240 The country needs to heal.

01:35:25.040 And these divisions based on identity, like we need to stop taking the bait.

01:35:30.700 Like, I think there's a lot of bait right now.

01:35:32.780 And it's a distraction.

01:35:34.740 And in reality, we need to be hyper focused on how to improve the material conditions of

01:35:41.460 Americans, period.

01:35:42.880 That is what should be the focus.

01:35:45.600 And look, corporations like Nike are going to put out ads like that because they think

01:35:51.400 that it's going to help them maximize their profits.

01:35:54.440 Sometimes they hit the mark.

01:35:55.860 Sometimes they don't.

01:35:57.500 You know, Bud Light, of course.

01:35:58.800 Uh, conservatives decided to rain hell on Bud Light over the whole Dylan Mulvaney thing.

01:36:05.260 I think these companies are probably better off not weighing in on culture war stuff

01:36:10.840 because it only further divides Americans.

01:36:13.740 And you're trying to sell us shoes and sports equipment.

01:36:17.380 Focus on that.

01:36:18.380 Why wouldn't the NFL, if they want to get girls playing flag football, show girls playing flag

01:36:22.880 football against girls and how fun it is and how competitive and how fierce?

01:36:26.840 Why do you have to make guys into the big loser oafs who, you know, obviously men suck.

01:36:33.360 They're dumb.

01:36:34.300 They're Neanderthals.

01:36:35.440 They're outdated.

01:36:36.760 You know, like, why?

01:36:37.640 Why would you do that?

01:36:38.540 Like, that's part of this wokeness, this woke mind virus, as Elon calls it.

01:36:42.740 I mean, we're over it and we won a whole election in order to send that message.

01:36:46.500 Let me ask you this.

01:36:47.140 There is now a push by the Trump administration who sent a letter to, um, the NCAA and to the

01:36:54.700 body that governs, um, high school sports saying we now, thanks to Trump's executive

01:37:01.180 order, we can't have boys playing in girl sports on any, um, NCAA team.

01:37:06.020 But they're saying not only that, we want you to revoke the medals of the boys who did play

01:37:12.200 and stole the girls' medals over the past years.

01:37:15.420 Like Leah Thomas, who, with whom Riley Gaines had to share her fifth place trophy, who won

01:37:22.560 the 500 meter.

01:37:23.520 He took gold in a women's match.

01:37:26.360 And I have to say, and Riley said she's, look at this, look at the height difference and

01:37:29.380 the size difference.

01:37:30.180 And Riley has said she's totally in favor of this.

01:37:32.220 She's an, it's not just about her.

01:37:33.420 It's about all the women she's been fighting for.

01:37:35.140 And so am I, what say you?

01:37:38.660 I say you're going to put me in trouble, Megan.

01:37:41.120 You're gonna put me in trouble, Megan.

01:37:42.660 You're going to give me another like month of my mentions full of people losing their

01:37:47.100 minds because yeah, it's unfair.

01:37:49.840 I agree.

01:37:50.440 It is unfair.

01:37:51.080 And the vast majority of Americans agree that it's unfair.

01:37:53.600 Only 18% of Americans support the notion of biological males competing against biological

01:38:00.380 females.

01:38:02.280 And so showing Leah Thomas while you talk, keep going.

01:38:05.020 Yeah.

01:38:05.400 And I just, look, I disagree with your framing a little bit because at the end of the day,

01:38:11.120 I see the humanity in everyone, including transgender women.

01:38:14.240 And so I want to be respectful to them, but I also want, you know, I want that to be reciprocated.

01:38:20.420 I want some acknowledgement in regard to the biological differences between males and females.

01:38:25.080 And for people who don't think that's a big deal, well, you represent a tiny, tiny, minuscule

01:38:30.000 percentage of Americans who think that it's totally fine for someone to compete against

01:38:35.060 biological females if they're male one day and then identify as female the next day.

01:38:42.040 You know, it's just, it's not fair.

01:38:44.380 It's a question of fairness.

01:38:45.520 And if the left has decided that fairness doesn't matter, well, they're going to lose a lot of

01:38:51.720 support.

01:38:52.160 And I think that that did hurt them significantly in this last election cycle.

01:38:56.760 We've been watching, you know, in Connecticut where I live, male athletes who ran as males

01:39:01.000 the season before then switch over to the female team and crush their female competitors

01:39:07.320 who have not been through male puberty, who don't have testosterone in these numbers,

01:39:11.260 racing through their bodies.

01:39:12.520 It's, I mean, I've interviewed the girls.

01:39:14.660 It's just so unfair.

01:39:15.640 And I actually do think what is fair, here's a video of one and such track meet.

01:39:20.460 What's, what is fair is to make those men give back our trophies.

01:39:26.300 They stole them.

01:39:27.760 They cheated their way into getting them in the first place.

01:39:31.080 And what is fair when somebody cheats, they do it in baseball all the time.

01:39:34.620 You can't get into the hall of fame.

01:39:36.920 My team, Syracuse, where I went to school, they got stripped of a bunch of titles because

01:39:40.940 they recruited people with all sorts of, I don't know, nice lures that they weren't supposed

01:39:47.340 to give and they had to give up their trophies.

01:39:49.580 That's what happened here.

01:39:51.200 They should be forced to give back the trophies.

01:39:53.740 Anna Kasparian, thank you so much.

01:39:55.020 It's been a pleasure.

01:39:56.720 Thank you.

01:39:57.140 It was a pleasure for me too.

01:39:58.900 All right.

01:39:59.160 Come back soon.

01:40:00.260 I know we are back tomorrow and we're going to have the fellas from Ruthless who next week

01:40:06.000 are celebrating a very special anniversary and we'll have a preview for you on that.

01:40:11.540 I actually think it's going to be fun to talk to them about Mitch McConnell not voting

01:40:14.500 for Tulsi because, you know, Holmes used to work for McConnell.

01:40:17.740 So he doesn't hate McConnell, but of course McConnell's changed in the Republican Party.

01:40:21.800 So where do the fellas stand now?

01:40:23.780 We'll talk to them tomorrow.

01:40:27.980 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

01:40:29.900 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:40:36.000 Thank you.

The Megyn Kelly Show - February 12, 2025

Unhinged Left Screams About Elon and Trump, and Trump Gets Detained American Released, with Adam Carolla and Ana Kasparian ｜ Ep. 1006

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