The Megyn Kelly Show - Vulgar Met Gala, Jen Psaki's Cover-up Lies, and Trump vs. Harvard, with Stu Burguiere and Kevin Roberts

00:00:00.500 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:11.780 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We're going to have

00:00:15.660 Stubergeer with us in just a minute, but I want to start with this. The Met Gala is officially

00:00:22.480 over, dead, done. Once the apex of high fashion culture and A-list celebrity,

00:00:31.120 the gala now looks more like a sad sack D-list past its prime wannabe version of its old self.

00:00:37.220 It's closer to today's nerd prom White House Correspondents Dinner than the center of the

00:00:41.980 celeb and beauty universe as it used to be. This year's theme was super fine, tailoring black style,

00:00:48.740 an homage to black dandyism. What's that, you ask? No one has any idea. Prepare yourself,

00:00:55.200 however, for a deep dive into leftist, academic, gobbledygook, nonsensical talk,

00:01:00.460 which is probably how it got chosen as the Met Gala theme. That and their desire to pander to

00:01:05.980 black people. The Met says black dandyism came from the intersection of African and European-style

00:01:12.500 traditions, of course. What does that mean? I have no idea. But it seems to be based on a 2009 book

00:01:18.220 written by a woman named Monica Miller called Slaves to Fashion, Black Dandyism, and the Styling of

00:01:25.760 Black Diasporic Identity. Okay, so so far we have dandyism, intersection, and diasporic identity.

00:01:33.020 So we're batting a thousand on the scale of leftist code language that will make liberals sound smarter

00:01:38.080 and feel superior. Ms. Miller's book provides as follows, quote,

00:01:42.280 The black dandy's style is, from the beginning, always simultaneously personal, cultural,

00:01:49.200 representative of the race, and about representation, even as it evaluates norms of racialization,

00:01:57.300 class privileges, gender assignments, and the rules of sexuality in ways similar to that

00:02:02.940 of his European dandy brothers. All clear now? No, no one is. The whole point is to lose you

00:02:09.520 and sound smarter than you by saying words that are totally empty and meaningless.

00:02:15.000 Dandyism, for those still lost and looking for meaning, is, per the New York Times, quote,

00:02:20.120 a style of elevated dress once imposed upon enslaved people, remade by black esthetes.

00:02:28.360 What is an esthete, you ask? Why? It's a person who has or pretends to have a special appreciation of art

00:02:34.120 and beauty, like that woman who wrote the book and the people at the Met and the people who write at

00:02:39.380 the New York Times, who must be really familiar with the term esthete, A-E-S-T-H-E-T-E, because

00:02:45.740 it sounds like them. In any event, esthetes, who remake all of this into a tool of social mobility

00:02:54.300 and self-definition. Does anyone understand any of this any better? No, you're not meant to,

00:03:01.400 you dumbasses. You have to go to Harvard to understand what these people are saying,

00:03:06.380 how they speak, and how they code talk. It's all just a dressed up way of saying, by the way,

00:03:12.100 we are pandering to black people because we love black people, and that makes us good people.

00:03:19.520 So what did we see last night? Well, it was basically Black Lives Matter at the Met.

00:03:24.160 It was a parade of black Americans, leftists, in their dandy style, which near as I can figure,

00:03:30.660 appears to mean over-the-top black and white, with weird shapes and vaginas showing. That's also

00:03:35.840 apparently part of dandyism. Cramming into the Met, where the invitation-only tickets went for

00:03:41.020 $75,000 a plate, and that's only for the losers willing to actually pay to rub elbows with stars like

00:03:49.280 Lisa. Who is Lisa, you ask? Yes, I wanted to know too. She's the girl from White Lotus who was dating

00:03:58.940 the security guard. Remember? She's top-notch star talent right there, people. Lisa. And how did Lisa

00:04:07.820 interpret superfine dandyism? Apparently, it meant putting Rosa Parks on her vagina. Yes, yes, this was

00:04:17.280 the height of culture and high couture. Civil rights icon Rosa Parks reduced to a vagina cover.

00:04:25.640 Look at this. Is that part of the diaspora? Is it? I'm asking Anna Wintour for a friend.

00:04:32.180 Maybe somebody we know a little better, a legitimate star, could help us out. Let's go

00:04:36.520 to Holly Berry, one of the world's most beautiful women, right? Perhaps she nailed it. Here was her

00:04:41.820 outfit. Let's take a look. Here she is. Okay. If you zoom down to right above the bottom of the screen,

00:04:49.140 what are you seeing there on this dress that has slits in it where you see like see-through and then

00:04:55.740 black stripe and then see-through. Oh, it's a vagina. It's her vagina. Yeah. Apparently, she thought the

00:05:01.620 diaspora meant the labia, which she all but showed. Holly Berry, let me tell you something, has been in a

00:05:09.120 five-year effort to prove to us how sexy she is ever since some actress named Lisa Rae McCoy said on a show

00:05:15.020 that she had heard Holly Berry is bad and boring in bed. Look it up. And honestly, since that date to

00:05:23.400 now, Holly Berry has been doing inappropriate photo shoots and going over the top with her language about

00:05:30.900 her bedroom prowess because she's never been able to let it go, which means it struck a chord. I'm sorry,

00:05:37.440 but if it didn't ring a bell with you, you'd be able to laugh at it and move on. That's part of being a

00:05:42.340 public figure. But she has been instead putting up progressively more and more provocative pictures

00:05:47.560 of herself all the way through last night where she went full side vagina. You've heard of side

00:05:53.040 boob. This was side pube and it wasn't pretty. I'm sorry. She's not looking her best. This was not the

00:05:58.400 time to go side pube. And I really hope it doesn't become a thing because it's not, it's not really the

00:06:03.940 most attractive part. I mean, really, like if you really want to get attention now, just to go full

00:06:07.720 pube, right? Like do the Kanye Bianca Sensori thing. Like don't phone it in, Holly. You really

00:06:13.300 want attention. Let's see it. Put it on display. Don't, don't be such a press. And speaking of not

00:06:19.320 pretty, what the hell happened to Vera Wang? I'm sorry, but she looked like something that you would

00:06:26.260 find inside of a public washer dryer set after a college frat boy did his laundry, then fashions it

00:06:31.940 designer. You can't see it from this far away photo. I ideally we will zoom in on Vera's face

00:06:39.220 because it's seen better days and look, she's aging. She's obviously not doing anything to fight

00:06:46.400 the aging. All of that's fine, but you're going to put on a black tie outfit and show up for the

00:06:52.180 diaspora at fashion's biggest night. You might consider a little under eye concealer. I'm sorry.

00:06:58.700 That's just, I'm going to say it like you needed it. If you can get away with it and you don't need

00:07:04.120 it more power to you, Vera. I'm here to tell you, you needed it along with some mascara and a little

00:07:10.180 blush and maybe a cameraman who was farther away. I'm just, it was shocking. And while we're being

00:07:18.420 mean, what were you thinking, Pamela Anderson? I mean, honestly, I know she's leaning into the,

00:07:23.460 I'm no longer a sex kitten and I support her in that. I respect that, but she has leaned in so far.

00:07:30.500 She has imploded into a large ball of makeupless sparkles. And I now miss barbed wire. I, this is

00:07:37.620 not even recognizable. The weird pixie cut with the bangs, the little page boy bangs that are halfway

00:07:42.580 down her forehead. And she's obviously put on some weight. Okay. Again, fine. But like the dress was not

00:07:48.960 flattering at all. It covered every inch of her. She looked like half man, half woman in this head

00:07:55.400 to toe cover with no makeup on. Uh, I I'm sorry. She can do better. She Pamela Anderson in like jeans

00:08:02.480 and a t-shirt is better than that. Colin Kaepernick was there again, because it was BLM on a red carpet.

00:08:09.240 Someone named Andre 3000 showed up with a piano on his back, which really did prove that this is

00:08:17.500 really just a costume party and has nothing to do with fashion, which honestly is fine by me. I love

00:08:23.080 costumes, but the advertising is all wrong. I thought it was supposed to be fashion's biggest night.

00:08:27.680 High couture. It's a fucking piano on his back. How is that inspirational to this year's fashion season?

00:08:34.720 And by the way, I happen to know because I, in another life knew Anna Wintour, she doesn't like

00:08:42.020 all black. She likes colorful outfits. She gets upset when ladies and men wear all black. I don't

00:08:49.200 know how she felt about the big black piano on that man's back, but whatever. That's his fashion

00:08:55.440 statement. Whoopi Goldberg never misses the chance to dress like a man. Never. I mean, on the view,

00:09:01.980 on the red carpet at the Met Gala, and you could be forgiven for mistaking her for one last night.

00:09:08.500 Madonna too looked short. She looks stocky and she looked manly. She went in all white. I mean,

00:09:15.520 does dandyism mean cross-dressing? There was something about gender in that long,

00:09:20.900 incomprehensible definition, wasn't there? And these stars think that they're being provocative

00:09:27.200 by wearing tuxedos, by wearing tuxedos. One that was black and one that was white and the one that

00:09:35.680 was black and white. And speaking of black and white, no one has done black and white this well

00:09:43.320 since the black and white cookie. And it brings me to Kamala Harris. Did you see Kamala Harris last

00:09:48.340 night? She did remind me of a black and white cookie with her weird little dress that again,

00:09:53.660 much like the Pamela Anderson dress made her look like three times her size. She looked, look at her.

00:09:59.940 She looks enormous. She looks like the before picture for an Ozempic ad. I don't know what,

00:10:05.880 what woman decides to add another one quarter to her size with her dress choice. This is very odd to

00:10:13.120 me. And there's Doug Emhoff and a regular looking tux, which given the other options we saw last night

00:10:18.840 was fine. But in general, these women wearing black and white or black and white in a tuxedo

00:10:26.240 is boring as were most of the looks boring and done. One of the only ones who dazzled at all

00:10:34.720 was Diana Ross. And yes, as the papers all said today, coming up with the same headline,

00:10:40.620 she reigned supreme and she did wow everyone. I mean, any of us in an 18 foot train would wow anyone.

00:10:47.720 Apparently people were pissed because they had to get off the stairs so she could enter. But you

00:10:53.240 know what? Stardom has its privileges. So I kind of support this. She looked awesome. And it's great

00:10:58.040 to see some of our old Motown royalty still around and asserting their proper place in the pecking

00:11:06.980 order. Look, the real problem with last night's Met Gala. I mean, there were there were many. It's just

00:11:15.500 off point. It's too much privilege in the hands of too few people who we cannot stand. I mean,

00:11:23.320 the stars don't have to pay that $75,000 a ticket. That's truly just the loser wannabe star fuckers

00:11:29.100 who pay that money so they can sit next to Lisa. I don't even know who that is. Who are you?

00:11:36.920 Would you have to say it's the girl whose name, the name doesn't even come to mind of like who,

00:11:41.220 what was that character name again? She dated Guyton or whatever his name was. Like that's,

00:11:45.680 that's how you got to be like the famous person. That's why you're here. And by the way,

00:11:50.380 it pretty much was the white Lotus Met Ball. There were like black Americans and then the white

00:11:55.860 Lotus people. Here's Lisa in that movie. And then the white Lotus people. And like,

00:11:59.960 not for nothing, but Patrick Schwarzenegger, the, the, the Nepo baby of Arnold Schwarzenegger and

00:12:05.060 Maria Shriver was speaking of dandy. It was looking a little light in the loafers. I don't, that's fine.

00:12:10.080 There's nothing wrong with that, but I don't, I think he's hetero. And that was not a good look

00:12:12.940 for him because he had cinched that tiny little waist as small as the David Muir waist in the fireman's

00:12:18.400 jacket with the clothespins in the back. I miss men. Why does going to the Met Gala mean you have to

00:12:24.840 look like a girl? I prefer the Doug Emhoff look, frankly. I like, he looked like a tiny little

00:12:30.840 cinched waist girly girl, dandy. I mean, dandy, I don't, what's, I can't get back on, on the

00:12:37.060 definition of dandy, but it does have sort of a gay connotation. And Patrick Schwarzenegger was

00:12:41.920 leaning in. But the point is this thing is so over the top with its privilege and its wealth and its

00:12:48.020 people who are totally fucking out of touch, rubbing elbows with one another. It brings a little

00:12:52.580 vomit to one's mouth. And that's why we watch it to hate watch it. And now this year they added in

00:12:58.860 the extra element of the total fucking pander. Sorry. That's three F bonds in the top 10, 10

00:13:03.740 minutes. My apologies of the total pander. And we're done with that. Anna, I guess you didn't get the

00:13:10.500 notice or maybe she did. And this is just Anna Wintour, one of America's richest, meanest bitches

00:13:18.060 trying to declare her part herself as part of the resistance. She's the new face of the resistance,

00:13:24.580 the biggest bully in America with more money and access to power than virtually any other American.

00:13:32.400 Now she's going to be the new resistance because Trump and the majority that elected him have said,

00:13:37.900 we are done dividing ourselves by race. We're done leaning into things like the black diaspora.

00:13:45.780 Okay. Fashion is fashion, but she's got to do it because she's got to remind you that she's a

00:13:52.300 better person than you are. And that of course means she's not in her behavior proof. She's not

00:13:57.100 because only people who are not need to run around trying to prove and lecture the rest of us

00:14:00.900 on how good they are. Um, okay. So Anna Wintour is done. Our days of pandering are done.

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00:14:52.940 Stu, welcome back. I'm sure you were riveted to your TV as the red carpet arrivals unfolded.

00:14:59.020 Your take on the display of opulence, arrogance, and disdain for regular people that we witnessed

00:15:07.540 last night. Well, uh, first I, I must say, uh, that despite the fact that I host two national

00:15:15.200 shows a day, this is the reason why your show is my wife's favorite show. That was absolutely

00:15:22.940 incredible. And I will say my wife's name is Lisa. Um, I will assure you, she does not have Rosa Parks

00:15:30.640 underwear. Um, but I will say, even if she did, you wouldn't know it because she wears pants when

00:15:38.500 she goes outside. That secret option number two. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a nice, it's a nice step,

00:15:45.220 but I think a lot of people should really consider. I love, I mean, first of all, it's just completely

00:15:51.000 a ridiculous event in and of itself. And I think at one point, maybe it had some utility at this

00:15:56.040 point. You're right. It feels like this outdated sort of tribute band version of the woke era,

00:16:03.860 right? Like there was a time where it seemed like every, everybody went down this road and all we did

00:16:08.400 was say that the color of the skin was the most important thing. And we have to constantly lead

00:16:12.560 into every single woke word. And you know, uh, the, the, the Ibram Kendi's of the world were

00:16:18.900 thriving. Well, that's over, right? All right. Didn't we all realize this is over? This is past

00:16:24.040 Ibram Kendi had to close down his Institute at the college. Like, do we remember Robin DeAngelo's not

00:16:28.940 getting booked quite as often? The fees, speaking fees are down. I thought we were a little bit past

00:16:33.260 this. And I think, you know, watching it happen, it did feel sort of like a procession

00:16:37.880 for that entire movement, like this, this pathetic attempt to maintain it and keep it around.

00:16:44.400 And I, and I feel even more infuriated when you think about the scope of it, right? You're talking

00:16:50.120 about $75,000 a dish for those, uh, peasants who needed to pay it. And they're, they're going to this

00:16:58.900 event with all these expensive clothes and this incredible opulence. And they're the ones that are

00:17:03.820 going to tell us tomorrow about how important income inequality is. I want a constitutional

00:17:08.380 amendment that bans anyone who ever goes to that event from talking about income inequality ever

00:17:14.200 again. Uh, because how can we possibly take you seriously? It is a pathetic, pathetic display,

00:17:20.560 uh, that we watched. And despite the fact that the outfits are with very few exceptions, completely

00:17:26.860 bizarre and strange. Um, it is more about that, like attitude of these people are better than you.

00:17:35.240 They will tell you how to think. And if you don't think the same exact way down the line that they

00:17:41.220 believe you are the disgusting peasant that they don't have to consider when, when they're at this

00:17:47.500 event, when they're making policy that affects those everyday people who find this, uh, this whole

00:17:52.740 avenue grotesque. Once again, the field was littered with Kardashians. I mean, if you want to lower the

00:18:00.500 quality of your event event in one fell swoop, just invite them all, which is what Anna Wintour does

00:18:05.500 every year from Kim to Kylie to Kendall, take your pick. Um, they're there and their mere presence,

00:18:13.740 whether it's your Met Gala or your fake space launch will undermine the gravity, shall we say of your

00:18:21.000 event? And the seriousness with which any of us can take it. They're the OG nude fashionistas though.

00:18:29.540 They were clothed last night. Here's Kim in her weird little witch's hat and her incredibly tight

00:18:35.600 outfit. Cause that's all she ever does. But at least she was not showing us at least last night,

00:18:39.720 her badge, the Holly Berry choice do. I'm sorry, but it marks like a new low. So, okay. Shakira showed us

00:18:48.380 her vag at a super bowl a couple of years ago. So did JLo. And now you've got Holly Berry who's,

00:18:54.300 I mean, truly, I think accepted as one of the world's most beautiful women. Look at this. This

00:18:58.660 is a closeup. Forgive me of the side pube. We've got side pube on the right and the left. And the

00:19:04.920 thing that makes me so upset about this is any woman could do this. All right. Now, by the way,

00:19:10.180 Holly Berry, not for nothing, but she's put on probably about 10 pounds. So maybe this wasn't the

00:19:14.420 night to bust out the side pube, but okay, it's fine. But does your Lisa think if you brought her

00:19:21.040 to the, let's say radio and television correspondence dinner, that if she showed side

00:19:25.080 pube, she couldn't make a headline or two literally every woman listening to me right now. And every

00:19:31.380 man who has a daughter or a wife or a sister knows that if they put their loved one in a side pube dress,

00:19:38.340 they would get attention. They'd get clicks. They'd wind up maybe even on the Megyn Kelly show,

00:19:43.900 but not for the right reason. And Holly Berry has some sort of a complex where it's never enough.

00:19:52.160 Her natural gorgeous skin, her natural gorgeous looks, her natural gorgeous breasts for that matter.

00:19:58.500 It's not enough. You've got to go full pube because everybody has to outdo each other. You know,

00:20:05.180 once, once Bianca Sensori has been out there, right? Like that's the new standard or that Emily

00:20:09.760 Roger Towski, whatever her name is, she's half naked all the time. This is the new and like we

00:20:15.460 lose a little dignity as a society. Every time one of our actual stars buys into this.

00:20:24.800 Yeah. You're totally right on that. And Halle Berry, right? This is an Oscar award winner,

00:20:29.400 right? Like this is, this is someone who's not just some lady, right? Like she is,

00:20:33.160 as you point out, kind of generally agreed upon as one of the, you know, the world's most beautiful

00:20:37.860 women. And she's going through this. It's totally unnecessary for her, but it does play into, I

00:20:42.760 think the societal pressures and, and I don't want to say pressures as if she should be giving into

00:20:48.860 them. I'm just saying that like the incentives of our world right now seem to be lined up this way.

00:20:53.500 It's why so many people are on Instagram, you know, flaunting their cleavage to get clicks.

00:20:58.140 It's why, I mean, it's, it's a, it's a very long road that leads to the British woman on OnlyFans

00:21:04.860 having sex with a hundred men in a day, right? It's the same road. We're, we're, we're all there.

00:21:10.100 We're all looking at this same path where it just cheapens everything about who we are. I mean,

00:21:17.780 these are, she's an accomplished actress. She is, you know, was at the top of her field at one point.

00:21:24.660 Um, there's no need for her to do this. She doesn't need to be the, the new starlet who's

00:21:31.100 showing lots of skin to try to get attention. There's no need for it, but there seems to be

00:21:35.980 this desire to constantly put, uh, the, to constantly escalate that part of humanity.

00:21:43.280 Like sexuality is part of humanity. There's, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's, it's not

00:21:47.880 designed to be something that's thrown all over closeup shots on the Megyn Kelly show. That's

00:21:54.380 not, not what it's supposed to be, Megyn. Chrissy Teigen showed her underwear at the

00:21:59.500 white house correspondence dinner. She was considered a quote star who went to that thing

00:22:03.440 a year or two ago. She showed her underwear there. I don't get it. Like there's a time

00:22:07.420 and a place for a sexy photo. I'm not against that. I'm truly not like a prude, but it's very

00:22:12.460 weird to choose to show instead of like your shoulders or like some cleavage, some like, you

00:22:18.640 know, tasteful amount of cleavage, um, to, to, to go well beyond that into showing again,

00:22:25.260 the side pube, which has now become a new thing. Um, the pandering to the BLM crowd was over the top.

00:22:31.280 May I read you? I mean, this is unbelievable. If like any, if the GOP did this Vogue and the New York

00:22:39.800 Times would be apoplectic about it, he listened to the menu that they served last night at what

00:22:46.460 was basically the black, the black Met Gala delicacies, like papaya, Piri Piri salad, cucumbers

00:22:53.500 with Caribbean green seasoning, Creole chicken with lemon emulsion, BBQ collard greens with bacon,

00:23:02.960 cornbread with a honey curry butter, and a dessert named Bodega special cosmic brownie.

00:23:08.020 I'm sorry, but this is making me uncomfortable because the black people like chicken and they

00:23:15.620 like Caribbean green seasoning, the Creole chicken. They like, they like collard greens with bacon and

00:23:21.640 cornbread. This is like the, so the left and a wind court tour can do this kind of pandering. Cause

00:23:27.840 she's, you see, she got a panel of black advisors, all black advisors. Oh, and they want us to know

00:23:33.260 they met at the Apollo theater in Harlem to plan this and she's gotten their imprints due. So it's

00:23:39.260 fine for her to charge $75,000 for some Creole chicken and collard greens because she's having

00:23:49.620 the black Met Gala. But you tell me if anybody right of center serve that menu at an event meant

00:23:56.340 to honor black Americans, they'd get fucking killed. That's time for forgive me.

00:24:00.580 Number four, we're setting new records here. I bring out the best of you, Megan. I think there

00:24:06.380 is a, you're completely right, by the way. Imagine if a conservative decided to, to, to support that

00:24:14.320 menu at an event where you put, again, who would even put black in the title of an event? I can't

00:24:20.060 even, I don't even understand the mindset that would lead you to that part, very small part of,

00:24:24.120 of all of this. Um, you know, there's a, uh, it was a, uh, I think it was Curb Your Enthusiasm

00:24:28.760 episode where, um, where Larry and J.B. Smoove were in line and, and, and he wants to buy

00:24:35.600 a watermelon and, and he's trying to get himself to, it's okay that you actually like watermelon,

00:24:42.460 right? And, and, and Larry David's like, it's okay. Watermelon's delicious. It's okay to order

00:24:47.000 a black man to buy a watermelon. It's okay. It's a very funny scene, but it does sort of attract

00:24:52.320 like attention to this bizarre thing where we take foods and assign them to, to races and

00:24:59.260 cultures. Like that's part of culture, right? It is. There's nothing wrong with enjoying a

00:25:04.100 particular food. And it's really more about the way the media and the left has done this over,

00:25:10.440 over the years, instead of just saying like, you know what? Like, I don't know, maybe white people

00:25:14.900 like certain food. I have a friend who always tells me that white people are the only people who

00:25:19.120 like mayonnaise. I don't know if that's true. That's what he always tells me.

00:25:22.320 Ew. Why does that have to be ours? Maybe it's true.

00:25:25.020 I know. It's the one thing that we have.

00:25:26.160 Why do we get stuck with mayonnaise? Why couldn't we get, why couldn't we get watermelon?

00:25:30.220 That's better.

00:25:30.780 No, it's delicious and it's healthy.

00:25:33.440 And this is just, it's just so ridiculous. And then they want us to know it was a black

00:25:36.220 chef who came up with the menu. So Anna Wintour is not racist, you know, like.

00:25:40.000 Hands off. We're okay.

00:25:41.160 It's just so, it's, it's five years late, right? Like we're done with this. Blacks, Hispanics,

00:25:48.940 Indians, they're done with this. They all voted for Trump in record numbers because in part,

00:25:54.920 they wanted to put a stop to this dividing us by race. Nonsense. It was progress to put him back

00:26:01.380 in office so we can stop doing that. And so Anna Wintour, Wintour so white, literally one of our

00:26:07.960 whitest Americans. I mean, you can't get whiter. Decides she's going to be the one to resurrect

00:26:13.120 the pander and really in doing so set us back. Black people appreciate fashion and so do whites,

00:26:21.780 right? And then we have to go back to like how whites, because dandyism, we really dig deep into

00:26:26.020 these articles. It's about how white slave owners made certain slaves dress up in these over-the-top

00:26:34.540 outfits. And so it's like dandyism is an homage to like what they did and then how black people took

00:26:42.000 that and made it their own and found empowerment out of it. But like everything's got to revolve

00:26:46.780 around the white man, slave owner, our terrible history as a country. And we have to be reminded

00:26:52.000 of exactly what, you know, ancestors of nobody's really at this point in the country, other than

00:26:56.800 like 2% of us who are on the Mayflower, um, dead many moons ago. I love, I love how the solution to

00:27:04.420 an issue from long ago where we had rich white people tell black people how to dress. The solution

00:27:10.800 of that is to have rich white people tell black people how to dress. That's how we solved it,

00:27:18.000 everybody. Better see Rosa Parks someplace. Oh, wait, not there, Lisa.

00:27:26.460 It's really unbelievable and it's over. Okay. But now speaking of totally out of touch leftists

00:27:31.340 posing awkwardly for the camera, did you see the spread? Oh my God. It's unbelievable with all these

00:27:39.440 leftists in their living rooms. Hold on. I got to find this. Is this in the AM update? Yes. In the

00:27:45.400 New Yorker, they call it powerhouses and they've taken their favorite lefties and photographed. It

00:27:53.160 was supposed to be a photograph. Like traditionally they would photograph their living room, like just

00:27:56.900 show off. And as New Yorkers, I mean, I'm not one now, but I have been one for the past 17 years.

00:28:02.780 Um, we all love to see inside of each other's apartments. You know, it's like being on a cruise

00:28:06.940 ship. They tend to be smaller and it's interesting to see what people can do with such a small space

00:28:11.320 to make it, you know, work and so on. So we're all fascinated by apartments. So showing the living

00:28:15.680 rooms makes some sense, but this year they decided to add the humans in their living rooms and it's all

00:28:21.440 leftists because it's powerhouses and they wouldn't, why would they feature a conservative powerhouse?

00:28:25.420 That's not of any interest to the New Yorker. Um, so they've got the, I mean, again, just least

00:28:32.360 attractive leftists you can find. And on that front, forgive me, but I'm just going to tell the

00:28:36.980 truth. I'm going to start with Ella Emhoff, who they continue to tell us is some sort of a supermodel.

00:28:42.020 I I'd like to see the photos where, what runway show has she walked in? Because what I see is a woman

00:28:48.100 who would never qualify as a supermodel in anybody's book. She might be the living opposite of a Kate

00:28:55.140 Moss or a Paulina Portskova or a Cindy Crawford who were the OG, uh, supermodels. She looks short,

00:29:02.360 stubby with large calves and a bunch of tats all over her and strange eyeglasses and hair in a very

00:29:09.040 weird little living room holding a tiny little dog. So that's her. Um, and then there's AOC

00:29:17.000 in her Queens. They want you to know she's in Queens. She's a woman of the people living room

00:29:22.860 knitting. Cause she's just like us do. She, she lies in her cat on her couch at home.

00:29:29.020 And in between going to the Met Gala, remember an address that reads tax the rich as she's

00:29:35.180 hobnobbing with them at $75,000 a plate she knits. So that's relatable. Okay. That's why she needs to

00:29:41.780 be our next president. But my favorite is Al Sharpton, Al Sharpton, well-known race hustler and hoaxer

00:29:49.300 who somehow rehabilitated himself into one of the very serious and esteemed voices on MSNBC,

00:29:55.280 whose photograph is him in his living room with a photo of him in the background as author John

00:30:05.620 Gabriel put it on X. Like Al Sharpton, my house only has photos and statues of me plus a little cage for

00:30:14.180 the kids, which is what it looks like. There's literally a photo, a huge photo of himself on

00:30:20.980 the wall behind him. Nothing else than another photo that appears to be, I don't know. I maybe

00:30:26.360 of him a statue. I don't know who the statues of could also be him. And then a weird little

00:30:31.880 looks like a pack and play kind of thing, which is apparently for his dog. Maybe, I don't know.

00:30:37.700 I don't know Al Sharpton, Al Sharpton well enough, but he made the list. And then the best, the absolute

00:30:44.060 best is Uma Abedin and her husband, Alex Soros. Now I, I understand, I feel for Uma Abedin because

00:30:56.000 for years she's obviously been abused by Hillary Clinton as her right-hand woman. I mean, that's

00:31:01.240 seems clear when you work for one like that. So she must be able to take high levels of abuse. I mean,

00:31:06.780 that's my opinion. And then she married Anthony Weiner, who had some weird photos of two young

00:31:15.040 children and really just his whole mayoral race ended in utter disgrace as did his earlier race.

00:31:23.800 He had a couple of races, which he was booted out of for his absolutely disgusting behavior. And then

00:31:28.060 eventually their marriage failed. Shocking. And by the way, his laptop may have helped cost Hillary

00:31:35.020 Clinton the presidency. So she's got to live with that, which is a leftist legacy. No, no one wants

00:31:39.640 on the progressive side. And then she finds like the payload, the son of George Soros or George Soros,

00:31:47.860 Alex Soros. Now, unfortunately he's extremely homely and there isn't a scintilla of sexiness about

00:31:54.560 this man. He looks asexual to me. I don't, he just looks totally like asexual. Like he's never had a

00:32:01.520 beating heart looking at anything. And this is their pose in the most antiseptic, sterile,

00:32:08.580 cold, uninviting living room I've ever laid eyes upon. It's got the floor to ceiling window. So I

00:32:14.340 guess they think we're going to be impressed. They forgot to add anything resembling love,

00:32:18.920 anything resembling comfort or coziness. You go to visit Ma Kelly, my mom, Linda, you're going to get

00:32:26.280 the doilies on the side tables. You're going to get the cute prayers that are framed on the window,

00:32:33.400 on the walls. You're going to get the two matching lazy boy chairs, well-worn and loved. You're going

00:32:39.520 to get tons of family photos. Look at this. It's like hell on earth, this photo. Steve Krakauer said,

00:32:47.900 and I totally agree with him that they've got Margo and Todd vibes from Christmas, Christmas

00:32:51.620 vacation. Remember? Right. Um, Elaine Bennis, what's her name? Julia Louis-Dreyfus where they're

00:33:00.120 just, you know, you could freeze ice on their ass. They look so cold. You know, here they are.

00:33:04.560 And this is what they put out, like knowing it's going to be the New Yorkers, like their,

00:33:08.020 their power photo. And this has been some of the reaction. Um, okay. Steven L. Miller. I love him on,

00:33:16.060 on X, you know, him, he's been on before with you. I think he writes, uh, in response to all of this,

00:33:21.320 sure. Let's have that oligarchy conversation. Um, X user Jarvis on this Uma Abedin and Alex

00:33:28.760 Soros picture, by the way, there's something sexist about how he's sitting in like the power

00:33:33.340 seat with his arm out and she's standing next to him, holding his hand. There's something sexist

00:33:38.760 about it. It reminds me of the Mika and Joe thing where she kicked her legs up and he was sitting in

00:33:43.560 the power position. Like this is her telegraphing subservience to me. Like, I'll get you whatever

00:33:48.760 you need. What do you need? Do you need a coffee? You need a back rub? What can I get you? Anyway,

00:33:53.340 X user Jarvis tweeted out, love, love this picture in the voice of Alex Soros, love this picture of me,

00:34:00.700 a heterosexual and my wife who I love being physically intimate with Chadwick Moore tasteless,

00:34:08.480 frigid antiseptic. I've been in dentist offices with more soul and character. Byron York, one of,

00:34:16.160 if the, if not the most powerful person in the democratic party, very heartland. Exactly right.

00:34:23.040 Uh, so all of this does what for the Democrats image, Stuber gear? Not much, nothing positive. I,

00:34:31.820 I don't think it does much for any of their images. Uh, you know, I, you say that Alex Soros does not

00:34:36.800 have a scintilla of sexiness. I assumed the sexiness was supposed to be provided by the

00:34:41.320 commas in the bank account, which would provide you a very nice place, but it doesn't even seem

00:34:47.100 to be honestly that they they're hitting that standard. They look pissed in the photo. They,

00:34:52.320 it looks like the last thing you see if you're an Uber eats driver and you've dropped off the wrong

00:34:57.500 order and you're backing out of the apartment that they look at it like just disgust

00:35:02.000 at you. And it looks, it makes their life feel disgusting. You know, it kind of does. I think

00:35:09.000 like it, it has that element of it. There's this, there's this thing that this type of thing,

00:35:13.860 you know, if it were, uh, you know, some rich conservative who made his money through,

00:35:19.100 I don't know, supplying really important, uh, fuel and energy to our country. So we can have a

00:35:24.360 civilization that person with the same background would be, uh, I don't think they would have it.

00:35:29.020 I think it would look different, maybe a little more gold. Um, but it would have,

00:35:32.800 it would be seen as a disgusting, uh, sign of, of wealth and opulence and, and this grotesque

00:35:38.640 capitalism that, that, uh, this, uh, this country is, is, is, is hitting us with despite the fact

00:35:44.520 that it's also provided us with, you know, um, life expectancies that are longer than ever and

00:35:49.760 billions of people ripped out of extreme poverty, poverty across the world. Those things are never

00:35:54.340 discussed. We would just look at this as this disgusting, gross thing where these rich,

00:35:58.760 conservatives taking advantage of the American people. I mean, look, providing oil, uh, providing,

00:36:05.520 uh, you know, technology, something much more, much more than anything Alex Soros has ever done.

00:36:10.600 He's the kid of a guy who went around the world, uh, you know, raping other people's currencies

00:36:17.460 and destroying other people's currencies in foreign countries. Uh, he is not a, a sign of, uh, you know,

00:36:25.300 the family wealth didn't exactly come down, uh, a tree that you'd want to necessarily brag about

00:36:30.960 when it comes, uh, to, uh, to levels of, of how, uh, wonderful that process is. And we're now

00:36:38.640 supposed to look at this. I mean, I don't know, maybe she's improved her lot. I will say she was

00:36:42.880 married to, uh, Anthony Weiner and worked for Hillary Clinton. This might be the best possible

00:36:47.940 days of her life. I mean, this is might be the golden years for her, frankly, unlike Vera Wang.

00:36:54.420 Um, yes, this might be the golden age for her. Um, this guy, like I, all I can think about is,

00:37:02.120 is it inherited wealth? Like, I'm not sure because I spent a lot of time with, for example,

00:37:08.420 Lachlan Murdoch when I was at Fox. I don't remember him doing photo spreads like this. Uh, like I,

00:37:14.480 I, he's actually quite private. He's got, I think literally the largest home in Los Angeles.

00:37:19.240 Uh, he, and his extremely gorgeous supermodel wife, actual supermodel wife. He, they don't show

00:37:25.240 it off. They don't need anyone's affirmation of how wealthy and powerful they are. That's what real

00:37:31.920 wealth and real power looks like. In my experience, they, they don't want attention. The last thing they

00:37:38.020 want is a show like succession, right? Like talking all about them and their intrafamily drama,

00:37:43.400 but this guy, Alex Soros has like leaned into his totally inherited role as kingmaker within the

00:37:52.620 Democrat party, right down to marrying Uma Abedin, Anthony Weiner's cast off, which is just a very

00:37:59.660 sad thing to be. And, um, I don't know, like, I think about it a lot. Like I really want to have in

00:38:07.680 my life enough money that I can live comfortably and, you know, maybe give my kids a very small

00:38:14.080 nest egg to help them in case of an emergency in their lives when I'm gone. And that's it because

00:38:20.100 I'm telling you, give too much wealth to the next gen and you wind up with a prick like that,

00:38:25.000 with that facial expression, trying to act like he owns the world when he was just born on third base

00:38:32.240 and has done absolutely nothing other than receive this baton of power and money from his old man.

00:38:40.020 Like how pathetic and how not stimulating to his female partner. I know the commas are supposed to

00:38:47.640 provide the stimulation, as you say, but that generally requires you to earn them. What's sexy

00:38:54.520 is a man who earns, whether it's, it's a, you know, Mason or a millionaire. What's sexy is the

00:39:01.740 hard work that goes into earning them. By this standpoint, George Soros is sexy, sexier than his

00:39:10.060 weird little grew looking son. Doesn't he remind you of grew from the, from the despicable me series?

00:39:16.640 Yes. Like all of it is, you couldn't like draw up a more apt villain. Yeah, that's so true. And it's

00:39:26.620 also, you could not draw up a better vision of the hypocrisy of the modern left, right? Like I,

00:39:35.460 you know, I work with Glenn Beck on a day-to-day basis. We've talked just a little bit about George

00:39:39.680 Soros over the years, spent a little time on that topic. And one of the big responses to that early

00:39:45.940 coverage was no, that that's not what's happening here at all. You know, George Soros, sure he's a

00:39:50.980 Democrat. He makes some donations, but he's not this big puppet master trying to control, uh, you

00:39:57.140 know, the United States and all of the policies. He's not doing those things. He's not a big,

00:40:01.380 he's a factor, no, not a factor in the democratic party. You're being ridiculous. You're overstating

00:40:06.820 this. And their answer to that is to put Alex Soros, who's accomplished exactly nothing on his

00:40:15.160 own exactly, precisely nothing to elevate him to this level of control where Tim Walls was over at

00:40:22.140 this same apartment during the campaign that he was meeting with Kamala Harris. He he's best buddies

00:40:28.100 with every power player on the left. They've taken at least a guy who was accomplished in his grift

00:40:34.600 in George Soros and handed all this power times 10 to Alex, who seems to have done absolutely

00:40:41.760 nothing to deserve it. Except perfect his little villain face and his little pinky digging into the

00:40:48.120 side of his smile. You know, Austin Powers, like there is definitely a Dr. Evil vibe, uh, they're going

00:40:54.520 on. And what happens with all this money? It goes to fund candidates who come out and tell us about

00:41:00.140 income inequality to tell us about how millionaires and billionaires are bad people, how billionaires

00:41:06.040 shouldn't even exist. These are things that left-wing activists say all the time. And it's being funded

00:41:13.660 by this guy in this apartment. You cannot put a price on it. They're literally right now lecturing us

00:41:20.660 about oligarchy right now. These people, uh, just going down the list a little more, this, uh, list in

00:41:27.780 the New Yorker of the living rooms. They decide to feature, this is rich chase strangio. Um, you may

00:41:36.900 not know that chase, but you should know chase because chase is the transgender attorney who, um,

00:41:47.240 want, who argued before the U S Supreme court on this one case that they're going to lose, um, on whether

00:41:53.920 parents should have the right, um, to make these medical decisions for their children and sterilize

00:42:00.600 them and take away sexual function when they're minors. And anyway, here is attorney chase strangio

00:42:05.880 to Jake Tapper on CNN, um, on December 3rd, right? Is this December 3rd defending these so-called

00:42:14.600 trans procedures for minors? Watch this. Nobody has to provide this, this medication to, to adolescents.

00:42:22.020 These are not doctors being forced to provide this medication. These are doctors who are wanting to

00:42:27.600 treat their patients in the best way that they know how based on the best available evidence to us.

00:42:32.260 And these are young people who may have known since they were two years old, exactly who, who they are,

00:42:36.460 who suffered for six, seven years before they had any relief. And what's happening here, it's not the

00:42:41.180 kids who are consenting to this treatment. It's the parents who are consenting to the treatment.

00:42:45.080 And as a parent, I would say we, when our children are suffering, we are suffering. And these are

00:42:50.140 parents who love their children, who are listening to the advice of their doctors, of the mainstream

00:42:53.980 medical community and doing what's right for that, for their kids. And the state of Tennessee has

00:42:57.960 displaced their judgment. Okay. So this is a nice test for the listening audience. I intentionally

00:43:02.820 didn't say any pronouns about chase strangio before we tossed to that soundbite. The listening audience

00:43:08.660 in particular heard a woman who has taken testosterone. There is very clearly not a man. It is a woman

00:43:15.540 pretending to be a man who's taken testosterone. Those voices are very unique. They're very

00:43:21.920 distinguishable. They fool no one. And if you listening audience were to get a look at trace,

00:43:29.320 a chase strangio by going to our YouTube feed and going 42 minutes out of the hour, you would be even

00:43:34.160 more convinced because other than growing a fake beard and wearing a man's suit, this looks like an

00:43:41.280 effete feminine woman in dress up like a, like a whoopie Goldberg, except this one's feminine.

00:43:49.160 It's ridiculous. And so saying that kind of shit nonsense on CNN about how it's fine. It's just

00:43:58.040 totally cool to have these procedures done on minors who, who cannot possibly consent as minors as young

00:44:03.960 as 12 to the loss of sexual function for the rest of their life. Like any 12 year old,

00:44:10.720 even knows what that feels like or is to sacrifice chase is absurd. And it will get you featured in

00:44:18.960 the New Yorker as one of the power brokers in, I guess they'll go with his in quotes living room.

00:44:26.980 Let's take a look how chase strangio, which is the only true part about this person is living not well.

00:44:34.560 Yeah. That's, that's no surprise. I, if he's, if she is so powerful, where is her powerful living room?

00:44:41.080 Where's her nice living room? Cause this doesn't look so great. The window air conditioner. I don't know.

00:44:45.820 This, the scuzzy clothes. Um, these are our legal eagles now being honored and fitted by people like the

00:44:53.520 New Yorker. You feeling it, Stu?

00:44:54.840 Oh yeah. I will say, I will say in chase strangio's defense, he is much more masculine than Alex

00:45:03.580 Soros. And that is something that I think by looking at those photos, very low bar. Um,

00:45:10.060 it is fascinating. What gets you featured, right? This gets you featured because you're, you're in a,

00:45:14.660 in a loss. I mean, at least again, as opposed to Alex Soros, at least she accomplished something,

00:45:20.920 I guess, as a lawyer to get to the level where you at least be showing up in front of the Supreme

00:45:24.340 court. That's something I suppose a court case, obviously that they're going to lose. Um, but

00:45:30.080 okay. That's at least something, uh, it's amazing what they will feature and what they won't. You

00:45:34.700 know, I was thinking about this as we were talking about the, the billionaires, um, Alex Soros and the

00:45:39.440 rest, many of really rich people are featured in this spread. And of course at the Met Gala,

00:45:44.420 and I thought to myself, look at the way they're talking about, you know, Alex Soros and praising

00:45:51.060 him and the way they treat Elon Musk. And he is seen as an oligarch. He's seen as, as a, as a tyrant.

00:45:59.440 Uh, the New York times wrote a story today that featured, it was supposed to be about how Donald

00:46:06.060 Trump was embracing conspiracy theories. And in, in the article about Donald Trump embracing

00:46:12.580 conspiracy theories, they call Elon Musk America's unelected co-president. Now that to me seems like

00:46:20.980 a conspiracy theory. It's quite clearly not true. Yeah. A little bit. Um, and I started thinking

00:46:26.980 about like, I want to, you know, those, what about those Elon Musk profiles like this? Now he may have

00:46:31.240 had them at some point. I, you know, he kind of famously doesn't live in the sort of bizarre,

00:46:36.500 cold opulence of Alex Soros. He, that's not the way he's chosen, uh, to live his life. He's got lots of,

00:46:42.580 interesting choices in his personal life that we don't necessarily have to get into,

00:46:46.340 but he doesn't get these glowing profiles, despite the fact that unlike Alex Soros,

00:46:51.220 no matter what you think about Elon Musk, he is brilliant. He is a genius. He has created

00:46:56.900 more value for the United States in so many different areas than he's trying to cure paralysis

00:47:04.340 right now with his Neuralink company. That alone should tell everyone to shut the, you know,

00:47:11.520 what up and just say, thank you. There, see, I censored number five. And instead you saw,

00:47:18.780 I think it was the media research center that, that, uh, like calculated the research, um, the,

00:47:23.760 the, the media coverage that he's gotten. And for Elon, if memory serves, it was 97% negative for,

00:47:30.260 it was 97. It might've been 99. And for Hegseth, it was 100% negative, all negative on the evening

00:47:39.940 newscast. That's what they looked at all negative. So yeah, if you're Alex Soros, you get the feature

00:47:46.100 in the New Yorker with the woman, you know, look at me, you know, and if you're Elon, you get

00:47:52.560 all negative oligarch hit pieces. Right. And that happened when not at the beginning,

00:48:00.980 he was praised. I, we did a documentary back in 2006 or seven about, um, you know, energy and

00:48:08.740 global warming and all these things. And one of the segments of it was a feature on Tesla. This is

00:48:13.240 before Elon Musk really even was even running it. And we were, and we were the ones, the only people

00:48:17.460 out there saying, Oh gosh, you know, this is actually interesting technology, even though we're not

00:48:21.000 global warming people back then the coverage was all positive until the second he decided to keep

00:48:26.600 his, uh, his, um, uh, factory open during COVID that started a process, which led ended up eventually

00:48:34.280 in him, uh, endorsing Donald Trump and has now become the biggest Dr. Evil in the world. According

00:48:39.640 to the left, it's bizarre. Most of the stuff he's done has been toward their policy aims like fighting

00:48:45.620 global warming. And they still hate his guts. Yes. Green energy with the Tesla cars and

00:48:50.780 Neuralink and colonizing Mars. That's bipartisan. I mean, like that's, there's nothing partisan about

00:48:56.100 that. Um, Twitter, that's where he went really South with them because he allowed speech that

00:49:01.280 you're not allowed to say, according to the left. And it changed the course of history. It changed the

00:49:05.820 course of the debates that we're having right now, especially on the transgender issues, which is

00:49:10.200 unforgivable. Nevermind what he did when he then endorsed and worked for team Trump. Um, okay.

00:49:15.600 There's so much to get to still, my gosh, there's, I'm looking at my list here and there's such

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00:50:31.460 This just in Lisa. Lisa has greater star power than we normal mortals even knew. She also happens to be

00:50:44.320 a K-pop star with a hundred million followers on Instagram. Thanks to her K-pop role. For those of

00:50:51.580 you listening, K-pop is like Korean bands that have made it in Korea and some over here too. Like what's

00:50:59.380 the other one? Is it BTS? BTK? BTK is the killer. BTK is the murderer. Yeah.

00:51:06.900 As you can see, I got my finger on the pulse too. In any event, Lisa apparently wasn't big enough in

00:51:13.060 K-pop to get to the lessons about Rosa Parks and how we don't put her on vag underwear and take her

00:51:19.520 out as our personal wardrobe. But she's learning. She's learning the hard way. She also apparently

00:51:25.480 got in trouble not long ago for some old tape of her singing the N-word, which apparently I guess

00:51:30.920 they don't teach you that either in school in Korea. We don't say that. That's not something

00:51:34.900 we say or sing unless we're black, in which case you can say or sing it as much as you want.

00:51:38.820 I'm just following the rules as they've been set up by the rap industry. Okay. So there's a lot going

00:51:45.080 on. I want to get to Jen Psaki. Jen Psaki really, really, really wanted us to know as she went on the

00:51:52.600 Mixed Signals podcast on Friday that she really had no idea that Joe Biden, her boss for years,

00:52:01.200 was mentally infirm. And when she left the White House in May of 2022, he was a-okay, Skipper. He

00:52:08.600 was doing just fine. She was shocked, shocked when he had that debate meltdown. Here's what she said

00:52:15.360 sat for. I left in May of 2022, just for the facts here. And I have seen Biden once since then,

00:52:23.400 when I took my daughter to the holiday party this last December after he had lost. And so I hadn't

00:52:30.320 seen him in person during that period of time. In person. I never saw that person, not a single time.

00:52:35.880 And I was in the Oval Office every day that was on that debate stage. I'm not a doctor. Aging happens

00:52:42.240 quite quickly. Were things that people saw during that period of time that were similar to that or

00:52:47.480 would have been in a category of that? I don't know, possibly. She never saw him in person and

00:52:55.220 she's not a doctor. She wants you to know that, Stu. And you're not a doctor and I am a doctor and

00:53:02.140 an astronaut. I'm a jurist doctor and I was able to diagnose him from my desk. So I just want her to

00:53:07.260 know. You're not one and you were able to diagnose. I am one and I was able to diagnose. So we've got

00:53:12.340 this whole thing covered. We put together just like, I'm not going to play. It's just too short,

00:53:17.860 but we put together a list of the many, many mental infirmities that we saw from Joe Biden,

00:53:24.560 like the more popular ones prior to her departure. They included him slipping over and over again while

00:53:31.560 trying to walk up Air Force One, getting lost on his way back to the White House, referring to Vice

00:53:36.760 President Kamala Harris as president and first lady, confusing the immigration policy title 42 with

00:53:42.000 the mask mandate, losing his train of thought and slurring during key remarks. Do we have that one?

00:53:50.100 Asking the team? Yeah, let's watch that one.

00:53:52.040 We're going to seize their yachts, their luxury homes and other ill-begotten gains of Putin's

00:54:01.180 kleptocracy and the guys who are the kleptocracies. But these are bad guys.

00:54:12.720 Okay, maybe it's just his stutter.

00:54:15.000 He's becoming much more informed on the

00:54:18.480 the motives of

00:54:25.440 some of the political

00:54:28.880 players and some of the

00:54:32.360 and the political parties.

00:54:38.320 It's not his stutter because then we could play the soundbite where he forgot the name

00:54:42.700 of the Pentagon and Secretary of Defense. He didn't remember the word Pentagon, remember?

00:54:47.100 And then he forgot the name Lloyd Austin as his defense secretary.

00:54:50.700 And so we could keep going. All of that was prior to her departure.

00:54:53.760 All of us saw it just on the little box that we call the TV or the computer and were able to see

00:54:58.180 that there was a problem. But Jen Psaki is not a doctor, Stubergeer.

00:55:01.800 So she just couldn't do it.

00:55:04.340 It's interesting to see something you have to open your eyes that typically

00:55:08.180 was the type of thing that Jen didn't seem to be doing because anyone who saw this and you could

00:55:13.560 have seen this even before the 2020. I mean, we saw elements of it in the 2020 campaign, but it

00:55:18.840 certainly got worse in the White House, I suppose.

00:55:21.740 The change was, you know, dramatic from what we saw back in, you know, 2000, let's say eight.

00:55:27.580 Right. Here's a guy who's running for president for, I don't know, the 44th time losing embarrassing

00:55:32.020 fashion yet again back then. And while he was not exactly, I would say sharp, I wouldn't say he was

00:55:39.540 an impressive politician. He was at some points quick. He had his wits with him. That totally went

00:55:48.680 away when he was in office and it was clear to anybody who wanted to see it. It had to be in

00:55:54.080 complete denial to not see this coming. Now, I mean, I was somewhat surprised at how bad that

00:56:00.720 performance was in the debate. I assumed he'd muddle through it and give a solid D minus and

00:56:07.740 people would move on with their lives. That didn't happen. And it wound up putting us into

00:56:13.480 an interesting position, Megan, because for years and years and years and years, we were called

00:56:17.180 conspiracy theorists for believing that Joe Biden had lost his mental acuity to any sustainable level.

00:56:24.080 We were told that it was mean and racist and whatever else to criticize it.

00:56:29.180 Right. Ableist and ageist.

00:56:31.300 Ableist was a big one. Yep. You were against him because of a stutter.

00:56:34.280 And you were anti-stutterer.

00:56:35.140 Anti-stutterer, which is an interesting accusation for anyone. And we went through that whole period.

00:56:40.760 And then the debate occurred and it became clear for them the better thing to occur was people to

00:56:50.440 know about that. All of a sudden, all of the things that had built up over all of those years

00:56:55.520 were now beneficial to the left. And we entered into this golden age of media for about two weeks

00:57:02.380 where all of a sudden they were able to get these incredible insights from source after source after

00:57:09.760 source. Every journalist turned into the person from, you know, every, you know, Watergate movie.

00:57:16.120 Right. Like that person is like, you know, they're down there. They're in the parking garage.

00:57:21.040 They're getting every single hit. They were able to uncover all these amazing things in such a short

00:57:26.260 period of time. We are now at the situation where we have at least three books that I know of,

00:57:32.180 maybe more. One from someone at the Hill, one from Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson. To be fair to Alex

00:57:39.420 in particular, he really did cover this at the time. And then a third from authors combined of the New

00:57:47.180 York Times, the Washington Post, and I think it's the Wall Street Journal are like three leading

00:57:52.000 newspapers together. All of this is out now. All of this after the fact. And I, there's a good

00:58:01.720 chunk of me that just wants to be angry about it and say, wait a minute, where the heck was everybody

00:58:05.640 in the middle of this? Why weren't you covering this then? And I do think that that is a valuable

00:58:09.660 conversation to have at some point. But I also don't want to discourage this uncovering process.

00:58:15.900 I really think we were in a really dangerous situation as a nation, Megan. We were put in a

00:58:21.440 position where us, all of our children, our parents were in a situation where we were having a country

00:58:26.760 run by someone who couldn't get through sentences. It wasn't just he got on stage and stuttered.

00:58:33.640 This is a guy who obviously had lost it. This happened back in the Woodrow Wilson

00:58:38.340 administration with his wife after he had a stroke. His wife was basically running the country.

00:58:43.160 It seemed like Dr. Jill was running the country at some point. That's not constitutional. That's

00:58:47.920 not allowed. There's potential criminal cover up type stuff here. Yeah. And yeah, we focused on a

00:58:55.660 lot of stuff. A lot of it very interesting since Republicans have gone in. Like, you know, I kind

00:58:59.820 of wanted to see what was in the JFK files. Sure. But this is right here. It's happening right now.

00:59:04.740 It just affected us. And this should be a bigger focus. We should have major congressional

00:59:09.020 investigations. No, they want us to care about Signalgate. They want us. Yeah. Pete Hegseth used

00:59:15.540 Signal to discuss a lot of things. I don't care. Shut up and move on. You just spare me your your

00:59:23.520 full outrage. I don't believe you. You want to bring him down because he's Trump's guy.

00:59:29.280 You don't give a shit about that. If you cared about the fact that he had a signal conversation

00:59:33.600 with his wife, with details that he shouldn't have shared ostensibly with his wife, then you

00:59:39.400 would have cared about the fact that Jill Biden was president. You didn't care. So stop it. Take

00:59:46.400 a seat. I'm no longer listening to you and I'm not alone. Yeah, no, you're totally right. And I

00:59:52.200 first of all, can't listen to them about any of this nonsense. This is massive. This is the president

00:59:57.200 of the United States who was just checked out while we were. It was a terrifying time. Who God

01:00:04.100 only knows? Think of the he was micromanaging a situation between Russia and Ukraine. Think about

01:00:10.540 what stopped us from World War Three in that period, Megan. Vladimir Putin's restraint and Joe Biden's

01:00:16.500 competence. Those two things were the only two walls between us and World War Three. We went through

01:00:23.360 all of that period. And here's the thing. Every one of these people, they're all coming out. They're

01:00:27.340 all giving their quotes now. They're all talking to these authors. I encourage it. I want it to

01:00:30.520 happen. I want to know all their names. I want to know all the conversations and all the things they

01:00:33.920 say, because it should be the basis of a massive investigation. Every text they sent, they're

01:00:38.620 complaining about Signal now. Every text they sent through that period should be able to be recovered

01:00:44.100 by the U.S. government in an investigation, an investigation that must happen.

01:00:48.660 That's right. In fact, there's no reason not to do it, especially all the messages that they

01:00:53.840 exchanged on Signal, since they're so horrified by the use of Signal by a government official.

01:00:58.820 That's wonderful. I'm sure you had those same reactions when you were in office and finding

01:01:04.760 a way to communicate about Joe Biden's mental state. Let's just make sure, though. Let's trust but

01:01:09.100 verify. Listen to Psaki go on about how there was no cover up by either the media or Biden's aides.

01:01:18.660 Cover up is a very loaded term. Cover up is often like a crime, right? We're talking when people

01:01:26.060 use that. They say it's worse than the crime. People use that term as they relate to Watergate

01:01:30.540 or the covering up of not sharing public information about a war. And I'm not accusing

01:01:35.600 anybody of a crime. I understand. But other people have used that term. And I think it's a bit of a

01:01:39.520 dangerous term. Well, then you shouldn't have done it, that you should have thought about that when

01:01:44.760 you were. Because the thing about her is it's an obvious lie that she didn't know about Biden's

01:01:49.060 mental decline while she was working for him. Complete lie. I don't believe one word. But

01:01:55.940 it's not like she moved into a dumpster when she left MSNBC never to be seen again.

01:02:03.360 She went to MSNBC when she left the White House. She went to MSNBC and got her own show

01:02:10.620 where she could report on everything, including the fact that just three months later, he was

01:02:17.800 calling for a dead person at an event whose memorial video he had just watched. Where's

01:02:24.720 Jackie? Remember? He thought the dead people were alive and the alive people were dead. And again,

01:02:30.080 during her tenure, he didn't know what the word was for Pentagon or that Lloyd Austin was his sitting

01:02:34.940 sec deaf. So she has nowhere to go. No wonder she's worried about the use of the term cover-up.

01:02:42.720 Yeah. First of all, the term cover-up is completely legitimate. And the reason why it doesn't often

01:02:48.000 associate associated with a crime a lot of times. And a lot of times people do say the cover-up is

01:02:52.520 worse than the crime. All of that should apply here. I think that it's very likely that criminal

01:02:57.020 behavior actually occurred in this particular incident. And it is a massively serious one that we

01:03:01.600 can't just blow off. There's part of me that's just like, oh, God, thank God that's over. And I

01:03:05.440 want to run away from it. I understand that instinct. We have to look into this. This cannot happen for at

01:03:11.220 least a third time in U.S. history. We have to do something to stop this. There has to be more of a

01:03:17.580 process to be able to make this information come out at the time. So we know what's going on. And with

01:03:24.780 Psaki, she has a, you know, she, I think would, would probably be cleared of a lot of this stuff

01:03:30.340 because she did leave in 2022. God only knows if that's not why she left. It may very well have

01:03:34.360 been why she left. But beyond that, what's hilarious about her is she had daily insight on this guy,

01:03:41.760 seeing him behind the scenes over and over and over again. She says she missed it every step of the

01:03:45.480 way. Then she went to MSNBC, got her own show and watched every single one of his interviews,

01:03:50.800 every single one of his speeches, and still couldn't pick it up that entire time all the

01:03:55.120 way until that debate stage. And what does MSNBC do with the information when you have a person who

01:04:01.160 has that sort of ability to pick up on trends? What do they do? Promote her. That's what they did.

01:04:07.240 They gave her a better time slot and probably more money because that perfectly encapsulates the media

01:04:13.780 right now. If you are willing to take that embarrassment, that's got to be embarrassing for her.

01:04:19.200 Toe the line. If you'll just sit there and soak it up and toe the line and go on television and say,

01:04:26.260 I didn't see the most obvious thing in the entire world and embarrass yourself like that.

01:04:30.580 Congratulations. You've been promoted. Welcome to the Democrat Party and MSNBC. But I repeat myself,

01:04:36.300 it's unbelievable. She's not fooling anybody. And good for Ben Smith for raising those questions.

01:04:42.100 Okay. 60 Minutes Sunday night. We talked about this last week, how they were out there

01:04:48.260 asking us to feel sorry for them that their executive producer quit saying, I feel like

01:04:53.180 we're getting corporate interference from above now. I'm not going to be able to produce with total

01:04:57.520 independence. There's somebody who's kind of overseeing us now to see if like we've gone too

01:05:02.320 crazy. And that's a bridge too far for me. Meanwhile, we showed the audience all the examples,

01:05:06.820 not all, just some of the examples of how biased they've been against Trump and Republicans

01:05:10.600 and in favor of Dems. It's just been egregious. So whatever oversight they're now getting has their

01:05:17.040 work cut out for them and is already failing because this hit piece they did on Trump on Sunday

01:05:23.040 night was a joke, Stu. It was all about Trump's lawfare against the law firms and how now he's issued

01:05:30.400 executive orders against certain law firms for hiring people Trump can't stand or who in the past

01:05:37.520 hired them saying, I'm not sure that's a law firm we want to do business with as the federal

01:05:40.660 government. I really don't. I'm not sure that we trust the law firm that would hire this Mark Elias

01:05:46.320 and Scott Pelley pulls up this lawyer, Mark Elias, like he's the only one who would talk to us.

01:05:51.320 Everybody's too scared. That is because he's made his whole life and career in Democrat politics,

01:05:56.760 trying to ruin Republicans and Trump in particular. He worked for the firm that hired Fusion GPS

01:06:04.400 and got the whole Russiagate hoax going against President Trump that represented Hillary Clinton.

01:06:11.100 This guy is up to his neck in disgusting leftist Democrat politics. Of course, he's going to speak

01:06:17.640 to them. And of course, Trump doesn't want the federal government to do business with him or a

01:06:22.920 firm that would hire this bad actor. Makes perfect sense to me. But to watch 60, you would think he just

01:06:28.800 plucked some random white shoe law firm guy out of the ether and decided to punish him. Um, and it was

01:06:36.560 dishonest. So here's Scott Pelley from the opening on 60 Sunday night. It was nearly impossible to get

01:06:45.780 anyone on camera for this story because of the fear now running through our system of justice.

01:06:52.840 Many firms and attorneys have been targeted, among them, Mark Elias, a longtime opponent of Trump,

01:07:00.340 who is the only lawyer the president has named who was willing to appear on 60 Minutes. Elias and

01:07:07.780 others are warning that Trump's assault on the legal profession threatens the rule of law itself.

01:07:15.520 Elias says that for him, it began with the president's personal grudge.

01:07:20.980 Donald Trump hates me because I fight hard and I fight for free and fair elections. I insist on

01:07:27.540 fighting for democracy in court, fighting for voting rights in court, and insist on telling the truth

01:07:32.140 about what the outcome of the 2020 election was. Okay. So they treat what Mark Elias did to Trump

01:07:40.700 in a passing reference. He, he, he includes the following line. Um,

01:07:47.120 there were allegations raised by Elias of, uh, in 2016 of shady dealings with Russia by Trump and

01:07:54.980 his campaign. He's right that the FBI could not corroborate what was described as rumor.

01:08:00.760 At least one allegation was promoted to the media by Clinton campaign representatives when Mark Elias

01:08:05.620 was general counsel. One, at least one allegation promoted to the media by Clinton campaign reps

01:08:13.020 when Mark Elias was general counsel. So he was just the harmless general counsel. And one allegation

01:08:18.080 related to Russia gate was promoted by, um, his, by the Clinton campaign, which they represented when

01:08:24.420 he was, that is absolute. They did not mention the fact that he was an architect of the whole Russian

01:08:31.460 collusion hoax back in 2016. He was at Pertins Coy law firm, which hired fusion GPS, the Apple research

01:08:39.280 firm on behalf of Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC to prepare the fraudulent Russian dossier, which

01:08:44.500 fueled the FBI investigation wound up being the basis, uh, indirectly for the FISA warrants. They got to spy on

01:08:51.380 the team Trump, um, for this hoax. He runs this thing called democracy docket, which sues on behalf of

01:08:57.020 Democrats claims to be defending democracy. They left out the fact that he was sanctioned by the U S

01:09:03.300 court of appeals for the fifth circuit for unethical conduct. Just a couple of years ago in 2021, they

01:09:10.040 added in four total lawyers, all bash Trump, not one defended him. There was no Trump defender

01:09:17.760 featured at all on 60. And this is the new 60 that's got the corporate overseer to make sure they're

01:09:25.160 fair to Trump. Um, it's a fail. Yes. A massive, massive failure. There's, I mean, I can't even

01:09:33.860 remember the last time I saw a segment on 60 minutes that kind of came off as balanced and fair. I mean,

01:09:39.020 I would love them to exist in that world. You know, I would love, I think we really do have a need for a

01:09:45.360 show like 60 minutes and it's actual, uh, in, in the theoretical form, I suppose that it has been

01:09:50.740 proposed over the years of fair journalists, people, you know, maybe, maybe have spending high

01:09:55.380 amounts of resources to go after stories that people aren't watching that closely. That would

01:09:59.020 be a great thing for this country. If it existed, it does not. Uh, you mentioned, uh, Steve Krakauer

01:10:05.600 earlier, he wrote a great book and he talked about this type of thing. We're like, I, as a conservative,

01:10:10.180 I'm often at odds with the media, but I, I'm rooting for it in a way I want it to, it would be helpful

01:10:16.480 to our country. If we had a media that didn't have to be constantly berated and mocked for their

01:10:22.520 incompetence, I would love that world. You just see here that it's not, it doesn't exist. I mean,

01:10:28.100 Mark Elias, you go back just on the Trump stuff, but I mean, he's been, he's been a democratic

01:10:31.600 operative for as long as I can remember being interested in politics. This guy has been around

01:10:37.600 forever. And yeah, you know, he, Trump probably does hate his guts for a good reason, but he tried

01:10:44.880 to destroy his presidency. He tried to destroy his life. He, he lied it in my opinion, constantly

01:10:51.680 about, uh, accusations against Donald Trump. And he's done it against tons of other conservatives.

01:10:57.860 He doesn't like as well. This is not a, um, a guy who's down the middle, a guy who is, uh, you know,

01:11:03.860 someone you can go to with like, Hey, give us your honest, unbiased opinion, uh, against Donald Trump.

01:11:09.280 That that's not who he is. They can say they couldn't get anybody on the air. I don't believe that.

01:11:14.880 You know, this is 60 minutes. I think they can get kind of the, at least they used to be able to

01:11:18.760 get anybody on the air. They wanted. I don't believe that people are that afraid. I see them

01:11:23.140 all the time. Megan, we have no shortage of clips to run of people saying incredibly insane things

01:11:28.460 against Donald Trump all the time in the media, in politics, journalists, artists, look at the Met

01:11:34.840 Gala. Everyone seems to be prancing about with their opinions about how much they hate Donald Trump.

01:11:39.840 These people are not hard to find. If these intimidations were real, then I think we'd

01:11:45.960 have a totally different world. You don't see a Met Gala happening in downtown Pyongyang.

01:11:52.320 They don't, there's no one to come up against Kim Jong-un and say those things. That is not the

01:11:57.580 society we live in. It's, it seems to be, in my view, rewarded to go out there and say negative

01:12:03.080 things about Donald Trump. And by the way, even if you're going to have four or five people on there

01:12:08.920 criticizing Trump, Scott Pelley well knows that there is a journalistic obligation to feature

01:12:15.180 someone there defending him. It's not hard to find somebody who will defend the president.

01:12:20.040 They didn't try. They have no interest in doing it. Honestly, it's so insane that the executive

01:12:26.580 producer quit after doing piece after piece bashing Trump and Sherry Redstone's trying to sell her

01:12:34.240 company, Paramount to Skydance. And she needs government approval for this. Paramount owns CBS.

01:12:42.960 So she put in this sort of overseer of 60 to make sure they didn't get too crazy. And that, I mean,

01:12:49.780 I don't know what it could mean if it's not, please stop unnecessarily and, and fakely bashing

01:12:55.360 President Trump in an unfair way because it's causing me trouble. If it doesn't mean that,

01:12:59.920 what does it mean? You're not leftist enough. That doesn't make any sense. Bill wouldn't have

01:13:03.860 quit over that. He quit because he thought that they were going to try to, you know, pull the

01:13:07.600 bridle back on the Trump coverage. And this is the first thing they do once Bill's got, I don't know,

01:13:12.420 it's like, none of it makes sense other than 60s committed to it's biased and, and nothing is going

01:13:16.980 to change that. Okay. Let's talk about this Dave Portnoy thing. Cause it's kind of interesting.

01:13:20.600 He was just on the show on Thursday. So Dave Portnoy, in addition to owning and running

01:13:24.600 Barstool Sports, um, which is a podcast network and he's got, just been betting that there was a

01:13:30.480 betting company that they were in business with for a while there. In any event, he also owns sports

01:13:34.900 bars and, um, at one of his sports bars, I guess if you win trivia night, something, you have to do

01:13:39.840 something to win the right to put like your little slogan on one of these light up whiteboards in the

01:13:45.060 bar. And these two guys who won, uh, decided to post F the Jews and then posted the video on

01:13:54.000 social media. This is from one of the Barstool bars in Philadelphia. Can we see the video?

01:13:59.220 Why aren't we showing the video? Let's show the video, please. Um, so this got a lot of people

01:14:03.620 upset and Dave Portnoy saw it and he's Jewish himself, but not that that's required to get

01:14:08.420 upset over this kind of thing, but he didn't appreciate that much. And, uh, he decided to

01:14:12.960 fire the employees who agreed to write that message that the patrons said they wanted. And then he

01:14:19.680 offered to send the two patrons who wanted that message to Auschwitz on his dime to go learn a

01:14:28.140 thing or two about that attitude and what it has led to in the past. And this created such a firestorm

01:14:35.960 around Dave that he was very angry. He posted online the other day, Philadelphia, this is where this

01:14:43.220 happened. The local news keeps calling me, calling me, calling me saying, we want an interview. We want

01:14:47.380 an interview. So he said, I'd give him an interview. You can see him sitting on his couch, talking to

01:14:51.280 his laptop. You know, it's clearly a zoom. And he said it got heated about halfway in. So his friend

01:14:55.920 or coworker pulled out his iPhone and started taping the exchange because the ABC Philadelphia

01:15:01.740 reported, it decided to make this into Barstool and its culture of hate. Its culture of hate is what

01:15:08.700 led to this. Notwithstanding how, how Dave was handling this. Watch. Here's a bit of that.

01:15:12.720 You're quoting two people. I have no idea who they are from a made up journal. So tell me where the

01:15:18.260 professors are from. The University of Virginia. Okay. So no, that's a real university. I'd like to

01:15:24.120 know how they're, where they're getting their information. I don't like quotes that I have no

01:15:27.980 idea where they're coming from. I totally disagree for what you just said. Who's creating more hate

01:15:33.440 right now in the world? And you say, Barstool, sports, and white men or college campuses?

01:15:42.140 You go ahead and answer. No, that was, that was a question to you. I'm the journalist. I'm asking you.

01:15:47.480 Well, I, I don't play by those rules. What does that mean? You're a journalist? I'm a journalist.

01:15:52.580 I run a, I run a big media organization. I just asked you a question. Let's answer the question.

01:15:56.860 No, I asked you a question. You answer the question. You answer the question. You're not, you're not running this interview.

01:16:02.340 All right. The interview's over.

01:16:08.180 I know. I love it. Awesome. God, that's what I want to do in every interview. I know he did it.

01:16:13.080 It's great. Right. Good for him for shoving it down her throat. She begged him for the interview.

01:16:18.460 She got a big, big exclusive with him in the midst of this firestorm. He's doing her a favor by sitting

01:16:23.980 with her and she decides to call him like the center of this culture of hate. It's your fault. Like

01:16:29.900 this is exactly how he should have handled her. Absolutely. It was a great way to handle it.

01:16:35.320 And, you know, he's completely right in the points that he's making. First of all, he is Jewish,

01:16:40.060 which is, I mean, look, as you point out, I, I would, I was very angry. And when I heard this story,

01:16:45.420 you know, I, I am a big supporter of, of Israel. I think they're very much in the right of what's,

01:16:50.620 what happened after certainly October 7th in the time after I'm happy what they're doing

01:16:55.080 today in the middle East, all of that being said, you don't need to be Jewish. You don't need to be

01:17:00.020 a supporter of Israel to see that it's crazy to blame a Jewish guy for something that happened

01:17:04.940 for the couple of patrons at a bar that he owns that that's completely insane. First of all,

01:17:11.120 and his point about the universities is crucial. They, there are people going around, not just

01:17:18.620 saying bad things about Jews, but literally harassing Jewish students, targeting them,

01:17:26.720 threatening their lives on a daily basis. There are Charlottesville style protests in city after

01:17:34.680 city, after city across this country against Jews. And which seems to make it okay. I was just

01:17:40.900 watching video of, of, uh, uh, an area that was being taken over by pro Palestinian protesters,

01:17:46.220 which is a nice way of saying the Hamas wing of the party. Um, and going there and, uh, taking over

01:17:53.060 establishments. These are things, again, we were told that January 6th was the worst thing in the

01:17:56.540 world. They're doing that in, in institutions around the country. This stuff is happening. It's

01:18:02.140 real. Uh, we have seen it all over the place, uh, in high minded Ivy league style schools, not drunk

01:18:11.020 people at bars, people who are planning protests for weeks, organizing people on these concepts of

01:18:19.080 outdated, awful antisemitism that has been around for as long as unfortunately humanity has been

01:18:25.300 thinking about it. I, you know, I thought we were, I thought we could get past that at some point,

01:18:28.980 apparently not. And those people get praised. The Ilan Omars of the world get praised. She just

01:18:35.600 yesterday said Israel was involved in a genocide on a Twitter when responding to JD Vance. All of

01:18:42.080 this is going on and we're supposed to be worried about Dave Portnoy, a guy who does quality sports

01:18:47.920 content, owns a couple of bars, talks about betting and is Jewish himself. We're supposed to care about

01:18:53.620 his drunk patrons. That's the standard we're supposed to hit. I'm glad she slammed that. He slammed

01:18:59.640 that laptop right in the face. He crushed it. It turns out one of the students who, I don't know if

01:19:05.480 a student, one of the patrons who he offered a trip to Auschwitz, then came back. And after getting

01:19:13.680 suspended at his university for, I guess, posting this video online without apology, he got suspended

01:19:21.560 from his university, came back and said, I was just posting it as a citizen journalist. And Dave came out

01:19:27.600 and said, that's very different from what I was originally told. And, uh, withdrew the offer to send

01:19:33.400 this young man to Auschwitz. And, uh, we don't know this young man's name. It's remained anonymous,

01:19:39.040 I think, until now. So in any event, that's what's happening over at Barstool. Well done. Dave Portnoy

01:19:44.440 handled it perfectly. Stu, a pleasure, my friend. Thank you for being here. And my regards to the

01:19:49.880 beautiful superstar of this show, the real Lisa. Yes, the real Lisa. And I will say, I pretty much had a good

01:19:57.020 time in this interview, but honestly, I have to say I'm out. Till the next time. All right, coming up,

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01:23:29.580 summer of 2024. Remember this message, which was everywhere. Project 2025 will destroy America.

01:23:38.780 Look it up. Project 2025, a far-right manifesto that has hundreds of pages of extremist policies

01:23:45.060 to destroy the federal government as we know it. I'm here to tell you what it is. It's a far-right

01:23:50.440 plan for destroying democracy. Project 2025 is an obvious and chilling blueprint for a

01:23:56.300 Christo-fascist future. Folks, Project 2025 is the biggest attack on our system of government and our

01:24:02.860 personal freedom that has ever been proposed in the history of this country. Democrats, this is some real

01:24:07.440 talk for you. If you're not spending every second of every day all next week taking a lead pipe and a

01:24:17.640 two-by-four to Donald Trump and Project 2025, get out of politics. Remember that woman who walked out of

01:24:25.180 the Democratic National Convention with a huge purported book titled Project 2025? They thought

01:24:31.100 that this was going to be the thing that brought it home for Kamala Harris that took her to the

01:24:35.660 promised land. Well, how'd that work out? Well, you're about to meet the man who is the president

01:24:42.380 of the group behind 2025, the project. And it's called the Heritage Foundation. Kevin Roberts is their

01:24:50.980 president. He's also a former college president and he's author of the book, Dawn's Early Light,

01:24:56.260 Taking Back Washington to Save America. Kevin, I mean, you heard all the terrible things they were

01:25:02.140 saying about effectively you and Heritage. How do you plead, sir? Oh, I plead guilty for loving America

01:25:09.160 so much that we would put together 110 conservative groups to do what? To have the blueprint for

01:25:15.540 dismantling the administrative state for the sake of self-governance and freedom. So I'm glad that

01:25:20.560 radical leftists dislike us so much as we say at Heritage. When you're over the target, you're not

01:25:25.760 catching flack. You're catching a lot of flack and obviously we're over the target when radical leftists

01:25:30.700 think that we're a real problem. Ultimately, though, let me say this, Megan, it's the American

01:25:35.240 people, not Heritage, who should be taking a victory lap because what President Trump is doing is what

01:25:40.580 conservatives have needed to do for several decades, and that's restore some common sense to

01:25:45.560 Washington, D.C. They would go through the list of Project 2025. It's like, you know, like trying to

01:25:50.880 decrease the number of abortions in the country and trying to secure the border. I was like, great.

01:25:55.760 Cool. Like this to me is like an advertising for the Republican Party, but the left treated it like

01:25:59.900 it was a little Nazi manual that President Trump was going to just make into law as soon as he got

01:26:04.180 in there. It actually boomeranged on them. I mean, we computed at Heritage, even though we weren't

01:26:08.940 seeking this, you know, we're just a public policy group. They gave us a billion dollars of earned media

01:26:13.740 value. And what happened was, especially in the last month of the campaign, as you suggested,

01:26:18.440 not only was it becoming a failing tactic for the Harris campaign, it was boomeranging on them in some

01:26:24.500 swing districts where people said, you know, I went to Project 2025.org. I don't necessarily agree

01:26:30.260 with everything, but I agree with the top 10 proposals they have. And I want to vote for

01:26:34.920 candidates who support this. So ultimately, it was a huge wind in our sails. Again, President Trump and

01:26:40.820 Vice President Vance deserve all the credit for what they're doing. If we have played a minuscule role

01:26:45.500 in helping to offer some suggestions on policies and people, that's what Heritage has done since 1980.

01:26:51.440 And the left also hates it, Megan, when I say this, we're going to do this every four years

01:26:56.460 until the end of time, because it's what we're supposed to do to help men and women in elective

01:27:01.280 office. Well, you've also been very kind to yours, truly. Whenever we go down to DC, you guys have

01:27:06.200 these amazing studios and you let us use them. So I'm grateful to you on a personal and professional

01:27:10.240 basis. Okay. Let's talk about, because you are a former college president and the issue of

01:27:15.740 colleges under Trump has exploded. This was a campaign promise. He said he would dismantle the

01:27:21.240 DEI that has infected all of these elite universities. And he's really, not only is

01:27:27.360 he doing it, but he's fighting for it. So he issued these executive orders. Now he could just sit back

01:27:32.660 when they fight them legally and phone it in, but he is fighting tooth and nail. Like you want to

01:27:38.340 give me a hard time about it. I'm going to take away this source of funding for you. I'm going to

01:27:41.780 take away that source of funding for you. Like he won't rest until they actually do scrub these

01:27:46.300 campuses of this very dangerous ideology, which of course has not only just caused problems in

01:27:52.880 general, but has resulted in large part in the antisemitism that we're seeing on college campuses,

01:27:57.000 which when made manifest toward Jewish students is illegal. Um, the latest is, this is from the New

01:28:03.980 York times dated today that, uh, they are seeking to force Harvard back to the negotiating table on its

01:28:10.760 list of demands, like to clean up the antisemitism problems, et cetera. Um, by saying you will not be

01:28:18.200 eligible for any new federal grants, no more federal money, basically in a contentious letter

01:28:24.920 to the president, Alan, Alan Garber, uh, saying you're not going to, you shouldn't be seeking grants

01:28:30.740 from the federal government since none will be provided signed education secretary, Linda McMahon.

01:28:36.240 And she goes on and just a scathing piece about all the sins they've committed. What do you make of

01:28:41.400 this? Well, first of all, let me start with that letter from secretary McMahon, who, by the way,

01:28:46.580 like every other cabinet secretary is doing such a great job. It was hot fire and it's so righteous

01:28:51.920 on behalf of common sense toward an institution, Harvard, that used to be the pride and joy of this

01:28:57.080 country, even for those of us who didn't go there and never really wanted to. Instead, what Harvard has

01:29:03.040 become is sort of the icon, the avatar for the radical left. And having been a college president,

01:29:09.080 Megan, I will tell you that if I had been the president of Harvard and was receiving these

01:29:13.640 missives from Donald Trump, I would have picked up the phone and said, Mr. President, can I come meet

01:29:18.140 with you for half an hour? And let's talk about our shared goal, which is that we love this country.

01:29:23.420 We want to educate students. When we receive public money, we want to really treasure it and,

01:29:28.600 and actually further science, further study, further American values. But he could not do that

01:29:34.280 because Harvard doesn't believe in those things. And so the gig is up. Those of us, whether like me,

01:29:39.920 an educator, or you, a very smart observer in journalism and news, understand is that the Ivy

01:29:46.080 Leagues and most four-year universities in this country have been using the public's money against

01:29:51.480 us by implementing all this DEI nonsense to say nothing of the very steady decline in educational

01:29:58.320 attainment we've seen with four-year and six-year graduation rates. So of all the things I'm

01:30:03.340 excited about that this administration has done in its first few months, it is this effort on education

01:30:08.660 broadly, but on Harvard in particular, that I would put at the top of my list.

01:30:12.580 It's like, what exactly do you think Trump should do with Harvard and Columbia and Princeton and Yale

01:30:19.720 and all these colleges that are, that are doing this, that are committed to this DEI

01:30:24.900 way of teaching and being. It's like, not just teaching, it's the hiring, it's the administrative

01:30:31.020 staff, it's what they want to see in the students who apply there, it's in the lesson plans and the

01:30:35.640 syllabi. I mean, it's just ubiquitous. So what should he be doing to make sure they do what his

01:30:42.500 executive order says?

01:30:43.460 Two things. Number one, the letter from Secretary McMahon lays this out really clearly, and it is

01:30:49.900 a hundred percent solid ground legally and morally. And she says, look, in essence, you're free to do

01:30:55.440 whatever you want to do as a private institution, but don't think that you can do that and also take

01:31:01.120 billions of dollars of public money. If in fact, you're going to take those public grants in order

01:31:06.180 to fulfill federal government scientific research priorities, you have to follow by the rules.

01:31:11.140 Harvard thinks that it's more important than the federal government and the American people. In

01:31:15.320 essence, they want to have their cake and eat it too. And so what the Trump administration needs to

01:31:19.860 do is cut off those funds, which the secretary has said will happen. Number two, it needs to

01:31:25.260 continue to fight them in court. And I believe the Trump administration will prevail. But the third

01:31:29.880 thing, which is unique to Harvard because of the scale of the implementation of DEI there, is that I

01:31:35.440 think the president is right to threaten the tax exempt status of a university. Those of us who run

01:31:40.260 nonprofits would not want that threat being bandied about by any president of the United States. But

01:31:46.200 there's precedent here when a previous administration went against Bob Jones University for doing what?

01:31:52.220 In essence, a form of DEI using a different definition. And so I think they're on solid ground

01:31:57.360 here. In essence, Harvard has picked a fight that it's not going to win. And I think it's endangering the

01:32:02.640 future of the university. It's so amazing to me that they're really committed to this. You know,

01:32:08.940 like what DEI really is, is discrimination. That's what they're fighting for. They want,

01:32:12.560 they want the ongoing ability to discriminate against whites and Jews as the case may be. And

01:32:17.880 it's really, really important to them. They are willing to die trying. You look at, uh, just,

01:32:23.060 just on Tuesday, uh, there's a piece in commentary today called defunding shouldn't stop with Harvard,

01:32:27.600 where they outlined the fact that their presidential task force on combating anti-Semitism and anti-Israel

01:32:32.540 bias. They released their final report. Then they had to do the one on combating, um,

01:32:38.220 bias against Muslims too, as though that's an equal problem at Harvard's campus. Sure, Jan, sure.

01:32:43.960 Uh, it's a 300 plus page document and they, they conclude it reveals the depth of the university's

01:32:49.260 systemic bias against Jewish students. Many students quote described experiences of being bullied

01:32:54.120 or shunned by fellow students, singled out for negative attention by instructors and feeling

01:32:58.360 ignored by administrators. Fear of encountering hostility has led some Jewish students to conceal

01:33:03.600 their Jewish identity from classmates. Um, one row I count among my peers, many students who regularly

01:33:11.140 posted social media images like decolonization is not a metaphor with Jewish blood dripping from the

01:33:17.200 text. One graduate student said, imagine go trying to go to school and learn in this environment.

01:33:23.040 And yet they're still holding on the Harvard is as are the other universities to their ability to

01:33:28.800 teach and run the university just exactly as they see fit. Like we should trust them.

01:33:33.720 It's so grotesque. I mean, can, can you imagine that in 2025, we're having to have this conversation

01:33:39.480 about any university, but in this case, Harvard, supposedly one of the top universities in the world

01:33:44.600 defending the implementation of anti-Semitism such that if a, as you said, a Jewish student is on campus,

01:33:51.620 it probably is prudent from their point of view to hide their religious identity in the United States

01:33:57.100 of America in 2025. This tells you everything you need to know. But let me say, especially for my,

01:34:02.980 my Jewish friends who are very worried about their own kids and grandkids at these campuses,

01:34:07.260 as tragic and evil as this is, there is a silver lining here because president Trump is willing to play

01:34:13.920 ball. And it's this, this is highlighting the defense of anti-Semitism by Ivy league presidents

01:34:20.200 is highlighting for the American people who weren't quite sure this was such a big problem anymore

01:34:25.380 that it is. And what it's doing is sustaining the popular will for the kind of reform that needs to

01:34:30.940 happen to eradicate anti-Semitism period, but also to do the kind of higher education reform that many

01:34:36.560 of us, myself included, have been involved in for 25 years. I am therefore, all of us really at

01:34:41.920 heritage, Megan are really optimistic about how all of this will, will turn out.

01:34:46.880 Yeah, because it's, it goes well beyond anti-Semitism and obviously we need to make

01:34:50.920 sure that there's still room to criticize Israel. That's a, that's a different kettle of fish. You

01:34:56.140 can criticize Israel all day long and say that their response is disproportionate. All that's fine.

01:35:00.560 But you know, this is what decolonization looks like with the murder of a bunch of Jews. Now you've

01:35:06.020 crossed a line. Now it's different. Intimidation tactics that stopped Jews from going across campus

01:35:11.320 started class. You've crossed a totally different line and the feds have an obligation under the law

01:35:15.840 to step in and stop you. But it's so beyond just Jewish people. It's whites. That's the truth,

01:35:21.700 Kevin. All these DEI policies, they're illegal. It's already illegal to discriminate against anyone

01:35:27.940 because of their skin color, including whites. But they do it every day. And I feel like they'll get

01:35:34.020 rid of that over their dead bodies. Oh, they will. That's, that's the hill that they're going to die on.

01:35:39.100 And a couple of things on that is you talk often on your show in this era in which we have seen

01:35:44.740 the deterioration of properly ordered masculinity. One of the rotten fruits of that is that we see a

01:35:50.980 steadily declining percentage of the American university student body being male. We obviously

01:35:56.120 want everyone to succeed, all women and all men. But it's a real concern for me as an educator, someone

01:36:01.880 who mentors a lot of younger people here in Washington, DC, to see that DEI has become so

01:36:08.200 ingrained in our society that we almost, even if we hate it, and obviously you and I and your audience

01:36:14.020 do, we don't realize how pervasive it has become in the thinking, especially of younger generations of

01:36:20.180 Americans. That's why we have to fight so hard in policy, but also informally to root it out and be

01:36:26.200 aware that these university presidents of the Ivy leagues are not going to stop fighting. They're

01:36:32.020 going to continue to defend anti-Semitism, but the real cradle for them, that they are the altar that

01:36:37.180 they want to defend, is to make sure that white men do not get an equal chance of attending their

01:36:43.640 universities. The only proof you need of that is to look at their admissions rates. And ultimately what

01:36:48.500 you and I are saying, what President Trump is saying, is very common sense. How about we

01:36:53.040 re-implement meritocracy in universities, in every kind of industry for success? That's what the

01:36:59.500 American people voted for last November. So hats off to President Trump for trying to re-implement

01:37:04.220 that. It's the American dream. He's not afraid of the fight at all. So as we close out his first

01:37:10.160 hundred days, that was on last Tuesday, how do you think he's doing? In particular, how do you do

01:37:16.860 and how is he doing on the tariff policy, which is by far the most controversial thing he's unveiled?

01:37:21.200 Look, we'd give him an A or an A-plus for the first hundred days, and we're pretty tough

01:37:25.340 graders at Heritage. We don't believe in great inflation. And the reason it's not quite an A-plus

01:37:29.800 is I think that where he's landed on the tariff regime now is where it should have been four weeks

01:37:35.880 ago. We at Heritage support the philosophy of a reciprocal tariff regime that uses tariffs as a

01:37:42.380 temporary tool of statecraft to exact fair trade, which is something we all believe in. And ultimately,

01:37:47.960 that's where the president has gotten or is very close to establishing that. Ultimately,

01:37:53.240 we believe the real fruit that will come from this regime of tariffs is to put the Chinese Communist

01:37:58.500 Party on an island because we have confidence in that we would still rate the administration's

01:38:03.540 first hundred days as an A. In every other respect, they've hit the ball out of the park.

01:38:08.460 And let me just say, if I may, kind of looking ahead to the next hundred days,

01:38:11.960 the success of the first hundred days will really hinge upon the ability of Congress as

01:38:17.040 soon as it possibly can to pass the reconciliation bill so that we can codify some of these successes.

01:38:23.180 Well, there are reports that Trump is asking for a record cut in spending, that he really

01:38:27.920 wants this budget to go back to the way it was decades ago in terms of government spending.

01:38:32.540 But the only thing that would increase would be the defense budget by some.

01:38:36.120 Do you think there's any chance that this Republican Congress will do that,

01:38:40.100 that they will cut spending by record levels, add to defense and pass tax cuts?

01:38:47.280 There is a chance. But, you know, I'm going to be honest. It's what we have to be at the Heritage

01:38:50.960 Foundation. The thin majority in the House, the non-filibuster-proof majority in the Senate for

01:38:56.380 Republicans means that both Speaker Johnson and Leader Thune have a very, very narrow path to walk.

01:39:02.920 At Heritage, we're trying to give them the air cover to be as aggressive as possible,

01:39:06.960 hopefully get to a trillion and a half dollars in spending cuts. And ultimately, when you do that

01:39:11.920 and you have the reform-minded defense secretary at the Pentagon, you can actually increase spending

01:39:17.460 on defense a little bit by providing for the munition systems for the next war rather than for

01:39:23.320 the last war. Ultimately, Megan, I do think there's a chance what we're trying to do at Heritage is

01:39:28.820 encourage our friends in Congress to get this done as quickly as possible, because what the American

01:39:33.860 people are looking for is some certainty about all of these questions.

01:39:37.960 Yeah. And Pete's made clear he's trying to replace over at the Pentagon the munitions that

01:39:41.840 we've been shipping over to Ukraine. I mean, it's not about like a barreling toward war at this point.

01:39:46.240 It's about trying to make sure we have our base covered. God forbid we were to need it.

01:39:52.380 He did announce today that he's firing a bunch of generals and like the top brass,

01:39:57.600 and he wants to take the money and resources that were going for those guys and supply it to the

01:40:03.440 warfighters. So we'll see what that looks like. It's been a pleasure, Kevin Roberts. I don't believe

01:40:07.940 what they said about you. It's not right. Megan, you are a national treasure. Thanks for everything

01:40:12.660 you do. It was a real pleasure to join you. Oh, I hope I see you again. All the best to you.

01:40:16.840 Uh, and we are back tomorrow with Chamath and Jason from the all in podcast, the besties,

01:40:23.640 two of the besties will come see us. They're always fun. We'll see you guys then.

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Vulgar Met Gala, Jen Psaki's Cover-up Lies, and Trump vs. Harvard, with Stu Burguiere and Kevin Roberts ｜ Ep. 1065

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