The Megyn Kelly Show - Walz's Military Service in Spotlight, Harris Ignores Press, and Males Go For Gold at Olympics, with Andrew Klavan

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00:00:11.700 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.340 What is the truth about Minnesota governor and now Democratic vice presidential pick

00:00:20.560 Tim Walz and his military service record? Questions have been swirling, including allegations

00:00:26.460 that Mr. Walz abandoned his fellow troops in their greatest time of need, even claims of stolen

00:00:33.060 valor. Yesterday on this program, I spoke with a Minnesota National Guard veteran who has been

00:00:38.720 sounding the alarm on this story for years. Tom Behrens, who took over the post, Tim Walz left

00:00:45.600 when he retired just as his unit, the unit under his command, was deploying to Iraq, was on this

00:00:52.500 program yesterday. And Tom made some stunning allegations. For what it's worth, the Harris

00:00:59.340 Walz campaign and the complicit media would have you believe this entire controversy is just a bunch

00:01:05.000 of nonsense. But today we're going to bring you the receipts. Here's what we know. Days after the

00:01:11.760 September 11th, 2001 attack on our nation, Mr. Walz re-enlisted in the National Guard for a six-year

00:01:19.100 commitment. He would later claim it was only four. Alpha News, they're in Minnesota. They've obtained

00:01:24.720 the paperwork. It was six. So I don't know why he's misleading about that. But he signed up to stay

00:01:31.200 in until 2007. 2007, not 2005. In late 2003, he deployed with his unit to Italy in support of Operation

00:01:44.340 Enduring Freedom. Operation Enduring Freedom is also known as the war in Afghanistan. He never

00:01:50.980 went to Afghanistan. He never saw active combat, nor was he part of Enduring Freedom. Again, that name is

00:01:58.360 used for the war in Afghanistan. He was in a support role in Italy. In the military, these words matter.

00:02:06.460 In February of 2005, we're flash forwarding now two years from the Italy service, he filed paperwork

00:02:15.280 with the Federal Election Commission to run for Congress. One month later in March, his own campaign

00:02:22.900 acknowledged before he retired from the National Guard, he was still in the National Guard, that he

00:02:29.660 knew he might be getting deployed to Iraq. They put out a press release titled, quote,

00:02:35.920 Walls still planning to run for Congress despite possible call to duty in Iraq. And indeed, this is

00:02:41.700 something that is done. Sometimes active duty National Guardsmen also running for office. At that time,

00:02:48.400 he said, quote, as command sergeant major, I have a responsibility not only to ready my battalion for Iraq,

00:02:54.980 but also to serve if called on. That's him. Months before he retired. After he'd already said,

00:03:02.820 I'm thinking about running for Congress. I'm dedicated to serving my country to the best of

00:03:07.700 my ability, whether that's in Washington, D.C. or in Iraq. Two months later, in May of 2005, Mr.

00:03:14.140 Waltz, the same one who six weeks earlier said, quote, I have a responsibility to serve if called on,

00:03:20.000 retired from the National Guard, effectively telling those who served under him,

00:03:24.460 good luck in Iraq. I won't be there. This was years before his commitment was due to end.

00:03:32.980 Now the media points to the fact that his unit did not receive the official alert orders to deploy

00:03:39.440 to Iraq until July 2005, two months after Waltz officially retired. But that doesn't change the

00:03:46.560 fact that he clearly knew that a deployment was a possibility at the time he decided to bail.

00:03:52.180 Nor does it change the fact that Waltz retired early, that those are facts that are in not in

00:03:59.400 dispute. He retired early, even by his own measure, where he's claiming he was allowed to retire at

00:04:05.860 some point in 2005. It's fine. They do retire early sometimes. It's not totally unusual for someone in

00:04:13.220 the service to retire early once they've surpassed the time that they committed to. But this was a

00:04:19.460 re-up, the six years. But not on the eve of being deployed with all of the men under you who you're

00:04:25.640 responsible for, for the first time to the theater of war. That's what makes this controversial.

00:04:31.480 There's no question he did that. His own letter acknowledging he knew he was likely to get a

00:04:37.140 deployment notice to Iraq months before he retired shows you he retired, left his unit knowing he was

00:04:46.100 abandoning those men. That is a fact that our guest, Tom Behrens, yesterday took real issue with.

00:04:54.320 Everybody was in shock because senior NCOs don't do that. I mean, you basically train for years and

00:05:02.080 years. You're with your soldiers. Your soldiers are literally like your kids almost. I mean, you've

00:05:08.180 watched them grow up. You've helped them shoot guns and learn how to do the radio stuff and, you know,

00:05:16.800 fix wounds if you can and different things. And then all of a sudden, when it's time to go

00:05:21.200 do your thing with that, you quit. I mean, that just absolutely was just, it was just disgusting.

00:05:27.620 His former unit would eventually deploy for 22 months at the height of some of the worst violence

00:05:34.000 Iraq has ever seen. And at least three members of that unit were killed. And where was Tim Walz?

00:05:40.140 He was sitting in DC in Congress. The campaign will say Walz did his part serving for 24 years in

00:05:46.240 uniform and was a tireless advocate for our men and women in uniform as a congressman. Fair enough.

00:05:52.440 The record will bear that out or it won't. Well, I'm sure have somebody digging into all those claims,

00:05:58.240 but he certainly served the nation for 24 years as a national guardsman. But Mr. Walz also appears

00:06:03.180 to have misled, or at least did not correct mistakes about his military record repeatedly.

00:06:10.540 A newspaper article about his run for Congress falsely claimed he served in Iraq. This is when he was

00:06:17.800 first running. He did not serve in Iraq. Again, he served in Italy. Did he call them up and try to

00:06:23.500 correct that? There's no correction on it. Back in 2004, Walz was photographed at a protest carrying a

00:06:32.660 sign reading Enduring Freedom Veterans for Kerry. Again, that insinuates he served in Afghanistan

00:06:40.760 as part of Enduring Freedom. He did not. He was in a supportive role in Italy and again in the

00:06:47.700 military. Just ask military vets. These words matter. A veteran named David Thule confronted

00:06:55.560 Mr. Walz's aides in his congressional office about that representation, that sign suggesting he had served

00:07:05.400 in Operation Enduring Freedom. Back in 2009, the guy went into the campaign offices and sat down

00:07:10.280 with Mr. Walz's staff and Mr. Thule filmed the encounter. Here's part of that exchange.

00:07:16.340 We're here on a veteran-related issue. I don't know if you are familiar with this picture at all.

00:07:22.480 This was taken in 2004 here in Mankato, and it's actually been posted on the internet for quite some

00:07:29.480 time. You don't even quite realize what it is. But in this picture, Congressman Walz here is holding

00:07:35.140 a sign that says Enduring Freedom Veterans for Kerry. So tell me what your understanding of this

00:07:41.880 military background is. Yeah, I understand that he was called up in support of it, obviously,

00:07:48.040 in support of that operation. That's how I've always understood it. And so the time that he,

00:07:53.180 you know, when he got called up, you know, I guess I've always referred to it as, you know,

00:07:58.080 he's called up and served in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. Okay. So is there any question

00:08:04.960 in your mind what Enduring Freedom is? No. Okay. So I guess most people, yourself included,

00:08:11.920 would associate Enduring Freedom with Afghanistan, right? Right. But I mean, I think it, you know,

00:08:16.520 as I also understand that it encompasses a great deal in there. Well, Operation Enduring Freedom is

00:08:22.600 limited to Afghanistan and the airspace directly involved. There's other units that are called up

00:08:27.360 in support of that. I'm sure that's probably what his military order said. Right. My concern,

00:08:32.540 other than this picture, is that the Congressman's website, his official biography, says simply that

00:08:38.200 he's mobilized with an Italian in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. Without any other details,

00:08:43.800 don't you think it's reasonable? People might assume that means he served in Afghanistan.

00:08:50.300 Perhaps, I guess. Are you aware of any of the media reports from 2006 that inaccurately cited

00:08:56.340 the Congressman as a war better? Specifically, I can't think of any right now, but I don't, I would

00:09:04.340 imagine that. I know people have approached me as a staffer and thought that, and so I've corrected

00:09:10.300 them. If, so if you serve in support of an operation, you're not necessarily a veteran

00:09:17.100 of that operation. Is that what you're saying? Yes. So your question is more about this picture

00:09:22.520 than his biography. Okay, I have two questions. Yeah. The biography is one of them. That's,

00:09:29.800 that's, oh, that's bad. That's misleading. That's a little bad. This right here, under current

00:09:35.180 U.S. law, this could get the Congressman probably thrown in jail in violation of the 2006 Stolen

00:09:41.360 Valor Act, which says it is a crime, a federal crime, to portray yourself in writing or verbally

00:09:49.100 as having received an award or declaration authorized by Congress that you didn't receive.

00:09:53.600 Congressman Wallace is clearly claiming in this sign, in this, in this picture with this

00:09:58.040 sign, to be an Enduring Freedom veteran. He is clearly, nobody disputes the fact that he

00:10:03.140 is not an Afghanistan or Enduring Freedom veteran. So this represents a fairly serious issue. So can

00:10:10.560 I leave you my name and number and can I trust that someone will get back to me on this issue?

00:10:15.220 Uh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

00:10:18.800 Okay. You heard the gentleman raising not only that sign, which said he was a veteran of Operation

00:10:24.320 Enduring Freedom, but also Wallace's own campaign announcement, which in which he called himself

00:10:31.060 a veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom. Okay. All right. So he said it himself. He held a sign that

00:10:39.040 said it and he said it himself in his campaign announcement. He's a veteran of Operation Enduring

00:10:45.900 Freedom. Flash forward to 2008 and Waltz also endorsed a book. That book was titled Winning Your

00:10:54.680 Election the Wellstone Way. The book had a section on Tim Waltz, falsely describing Waltz as a National

00:11:02.080 Guardsman who served in Afghanistan. Now he, he pushed this book. He endorsed this book. Are we supposed

00:11:10.400 to believe he didn't look at the one piece of the book that was about him and say, hey, I did not serve

00:11:16.040 in Afghanistan out of respect for the men who did that needs to be changed. And then there are Wallace's

00:11:24.400 own false statements about how he is allegedly, I don't play this soundbite yet. Allegedly a retired

00:11:34.040 command Sergeant major. I'm going to play the soundbite, but just keep in mind when you hear this,

00:11:39.220 it is the word retired that makes this title false. And once again, titles and words in the military

00:11:48.140 matter. I'm a retired command Sergeant major. I spent 24 years in the Army National Guard.

00:11:56.260 So when you first came to Washington, you were a retired command Sergeant major in the Army National

00:12:00.960 Guard. So you were drawn immediately. As a 24 year veteran of the National Guard and the Red Bull

00:12:06.660 Division and a retired command Sergeant major. He's not. He's not. According to the Minnesota

00:12:16.860 National Guard, Mr. Walls did not complete the necessary work to achieve that title in retirement.

00:12:23.920 He did not earn it. He held that title provisionally for a short time, but did not do the two year

00:12:31.520 training to actually earn it. He quit and he retired at a lower rank. This has all been confirmed by many,

00:12:40.940 including the officials. And it's on the stolen Vauer, sorry, stolen Valor X account as well.

00:12:48.480 J.D. Vance himself, an Iraq war veteran, has hit Tim Walls hard on this issue. Yesterday,

00:12:54.680 reporters tried to get Walls's response to the flurry of reporting that is coming out now

00:12:59.800 about his misrepresentations regarding his record. He either did not hear them or refused

00:13:06.280 to answer. Watch.

00:13:08.640 Governor, Vance, excuse, you have stolen Valor, your response.

00:13:15.060 Governor, Governor, Vance, excuse, you have stolen Valor, your response.

00:13:22.120 And it's not just all of that. Just this week, the Harris-Waltz campaign tweeted out a video

00:13:33.420 of Tim Walls in 2018. He was bragging about his record on guns. And once again,

00:13:41.320 he misstated the facts. Take a listen to him in 2018. I think it is. Sot 6.

00:13:54.740 Hope woke up like many of you did five weeks ago and said, Dad, you're the only person I know who's

00:13:58.900 in elected office. You need to stop what's happening with this. I'll take my kick in the

00:14:02.380 butt for the NRA. I spent 25 years in the army and I hunt and I gave the money back. And I'll tell

00:14:07.180 you what I have been doing. I've been voting for common sense legislation that protects the Second

00:14:10.720 Amendment. But we can do background checks. We can do CDC research. We can make sure we don't

00:14:14.860 have reciprocal carry among states. And we can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried in

00:14:19.200 war is the only place where those weapons are. Except he did not carry weapons in war. He went to

00:14:29.280 Italy in support of the war that was being fought by our guys in Afghanistan. And when it was time for

00:14:36.060 him to carry a weapon and go to Iraq, he quit. Those are the facts. Joining me now, Andrew Klavan,

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00:15:41.820 off Magic Spoon. Hold on to the dream. Andrew, welcome back. Great to see you. This is all very

00:15:47.680 disturbing. This is serious stuff. And I know the left wants to dismiss this as, oh, you know, just some

00:15:52.880 small little nothings. This matters to the guys who actually fought overseas.

00:16:00.160 It should matter to everyone. First of all, great report, Megan, really well researched and really got

00:16:05.240 to the heart of the matter. You know, I never served, so I'm very slow to criticize Rawls for when he pulled

00:16:11.860 out of his 24 years of service. I appreciate his 24 years of service. And I you know, he has a chance

00:16:17.900 to address questions about why he pulled out the lying, however, I can address. I in 2008, I was

00:16:26.720 embedded very briefly with the troops at Bob Kalagush in Afghanistan. You know, I was there for

00:16:32.760 about a week to cover a story for City Journal. They liked me. So as a gift, as a parting gift,

00:16:38.180 they gave me a T-shirt, making me a sort of honorary member of the 101st Airborne, calling me their

00:16:44.620 mascot. I guess I was like their poodle that they had around. I've never worn that T-shirt out of

00:16:48.940 the house, not once, not ever. And I never will, because I'm terrified that anybody might think,

00:16:54.300 wrongly think that I had served with them. I was visiting. I appreciated the gift. I might wear it

00:16:59.420 in the house at some time. Never wear it out of the house. Never want anyone to think that I did more

00:17:05.640 than I, that very, very little I did do as a journalist over there, because it's a real thing. It is a real

00:17:13.200 thing to go into the service. It's a real thing to be deployed into a war zone. And it is a real

00:17:17.860 thing to fight and be in battles and be in combat situations. These are all things that you should be

00:17:22.860 very extraordinarily careful about. And it just fits in with the rest of Walls' campaign so far. I know

00:17:30.820 it's only a few days, but it's all fake. It's all this stuff about, oh, he's folksy. He's a

00:17:36.080 Midwesterner. He's a moderate. He's not. He's a far left governor who has done dreadful things in that

00:17:42.660 state. And what I don't understand about this, and this is just true of the left and especially

00:17:48.640 the leftist media altogether, is if they're so far left, if they believe in leftism, if they believe

00:17:54.040 in progressivism, how come they got to lie about it all the time? How come everything they say about

00:17:58.820 this guy is fake to convince us that he's not what he is? All of that aside, convincing us on a

00:18:05.480 political level that he's not what he is is one thing. But convincing us that he is a military

00:18:11.060 combat veteran, it's inexcusable. And that one thing he said where the weapons of war that I

00:18:17.700 carried in war have to stay in war, no. I mean, that's claiming, that is literally claiming an

00:18:23.320 authority you don't have for a policy position that you're taking. It is one thing for J.D. Vance to say,

00:18:30.280 I was a Marine. I was in Iraq. This is the way I feel about this as that guy, as a veteran,

00:18:35.140 to say that you want the weapons that you carried in war to be restricted back in your home country,

00:18:41.780 where presumably the people fighting in combat are there to defend, among other things, the Second

00:18:47.140 Amendment. It's just inexcusable. And also the fact is that clip you played of the journalist shouting

00:18:53.980 at him and him not answering. Have either of these candidates, Kamala or Walsh, have either of them

00:19:00.160 answered a question? Have either of them stood in front of the press and talked? And are the press

00:19:05.160 clamoring for them to do it? It's all fake. It is all illusion. And it's really disturbing in this case.

00:19:11.540 You know, I think about, you know, my mom, she's retired now. Now she's in her 80s. But

00:19:16.240 she spent her whole career working as a nurse at the Albany Veterans Hospital. All she did was take

00:19:21.800 care of vets, all the vets from all the wars over the past 40 years. And these guys, so many of them

00:19:28.540 come back severely damaged from their experiences, whether, you know, yes, it can be the loss of

00:19:34.100 limbs, but it can also just be the PTSD, the deep trauma, drug addiction that follows. You know,

00:19:41.120 I'd go see her and you'd see the World War II vets who would stand and salute her, the nurse as she

00:19:45.740 walked by. These guys know nothing other than respect. You know, they'd stand up, they'd take such

00:19:51.060 good care of the flag and make sure it was properly displayed. And that's our vets, right? That's our,

00:19:57.500 and so many of them actual combat vets and wear the wounds to show it. That's why those guys take

00:20:04.780 such issue with people who bump up along the line of saying they did something they didn't do,

00:20:13.340 saying you were part of enduring freedom when you weren't saying you, you carried a weapon in war

00:20:19.240 when you didn't. And what we're seeing right now, Andrew, it's pretty interesting is, you know,

00:20:24.240 I had Sean Ryan on the show a couple of months ago. He was amazing, uh, former Navy SEAL. And he

00:20:29.820 tweeted out this picture of himself with the combat paint on his face. And he, the caption is,

00:20:34.940 this is a photo of me not being Tim Walsh. Some of us answered the call and some of us, Tim Walsh

00:20:41.080 cowered in the rear rear. Then there's Sean Parnell, uh, who had run for Senate in Pennsylvania a couple

00:20:48.080 years ago. Same picture of himself with his guns. This is a photo of me not being Tim Walsh.

00:20:54.240 There are more and more and more, all these guys under this same timeline hosting pictures of

00:21:00.060 themselves actually serving. Look, here's another one. Me not being Tim Walsh. These guys get it and

00:21:07.880 they are not going to be spun by morning Joe saying, Oh, there's nothing to this. This isn't like you tell

00:21:16.160 it to these brave guys who put on their uniforms, grab their guns and actually risk their lives and saw

00:21:23.800 their buddies die in the theater that he quit on as his unit went off without him.

00:21:31.400 Yeah. And I respect the fact that military people are saying these things, but we should all be

00:21:35.620 saying them, you know, every single one of us, this is, this is a thing that has bothered me about

00:21:40.140 our, the way we treat our soldiers since the days of Vietnam, when soldiers were being spat upon,

00:21:46.140 when they came home for the work that they did, everything we do depends on them. You know,

00:21:50.900 I read and write for a living. I read and write and talk for a living. That depends on them. That

00:21:54.720 doesn't happen without them. If you're married, if you're having a good time sitting with your wife

00:21:58.920 and having a glass of wine, that depends on these guys. If you go to the opera, if you walk with your

00:22:03.440 child, whatever you're doing, it depends on these guys and they can be invisible because we're so

00:22:07.940 powerful. Our country is so big and so powerful that we don't see them every day as we would say,

00:22:13.260 if we lived in a little village in the middle of nowhere, our country is so large and they keep us so safe

00:22:18.620 that they become invisible, but they're always there. And everything we do depends on them. And

00:22:23.440 that's why we pay them the respect that we do. That's why they get to board planes first. That's

00:22:27.940 why we talk to them with the kind of respect that we do. And that's why guys step aside when they walk

00:22:33.140 down the street. You know, we all feel this way that like, if you're doing that thing, you are doing

00:22:37.220 the essential thing that makes everything else that we do possible. So while I had nothing but respect

00:22:42.960 for the military people who are coming out with that special brand of feeling hurt and insulted

00:22:46.920 that their valor is being stolen, I think everybody should react to this. And I think

00:22:51.400 he has to stand up. He has to come forward and talk to the press about this. What did he mean

00:22:56.740 by the weapons he carried in war? What did he mean? And you're also right, by the way, about the fact

00:23:02.580 that he didn't send in corrections. That would have been the first thing I would have done had I seen

00:23:06.420 something like that. I mean, that's a, that's a really bad, you know, I've been, I've had people

00:23:10.720 credit me with winning awards I didn't win or being on a bestseller list when I wasn't. And I always

00:23:15.420 called them up and corrected it, but this is so much more important than that. That's so trivial,

00:23:19.780 but you don't want to be given things that you do. Part of a pattern, Andrew, right? If you look

00:23:23.820 back at the histories, we just laid it out. Um, his campaign announcement is saying he was part of,

00:23:29.120 he was served in operation, enduring freedom, him holding the sign enduring freedom veteran,

00:23:34.260 um, the newspaper article saying he had served in Iraq and the, the, the next one saying in

00:23:40.040 Afghanistan, him not correcting it over and over. And that, and it dovetails with the fact that he's

00:23:45.640 going by retired command Sergeant major. And that matters too. It was a higher rank than the one he

00:23:53.920 actually earned. They gave him a shot at command Sergeant major thinking he was going to be there

00:24:00.560 for another couple of years and that he would have to go to this other school for training to earn that

00:24:05.020 higher rank. Well, he didn't, he left, he didn't go to Iraq. He didn't do the training. And so what

00:24:09.740 happens in the military is then when you retire, if you didn't actually earn the provisional rank,

00:24:13.600 they gave you for a short time, you retire at the lower, the lower rank, you get different benefits

00:24:18.420 and so on. And that was confirmed. That's been confirmed by stolen valor, valor too. And, um,

00:24:24.120 he's been running around telling everybody he's retired command Sergeant major, which he's trying to

00:24:28.540 elevate himself, make himself sound more important than he actually was. It's, I'm just saying all of

00:24:34.260 this is part of a pattern and it's a disturbing pattern. And just in my history and my opinion,

00:24:40.360 you don't mess with military honors or achievements. It's just a hard rule. You don't try to make

00:24:48.620 yourself sound braver than you were, or like you took on a bigger commitment than you did. If you do

00:24:53.520 normal, honest media will hit you for it. Even CNN was forced to do a report acknowledging he was out

00:25:01.960 of line and he misstated things yesterday on this MSNBC going a different way entirely.

00:25:08.060 All right, let me pivot to the morning Joe. Um, when I'll get to morning Joe second to the,

00:25:13.420 the tarmac moment you mentioned. So they yelled the question at him and he either didn't hear or he

00:25:20.020 didn't respond. And now we're bench bureaus keeping like a daily count. I think we're on day 19 now of

00:25:26.220 Kamala Harris, not taking any questions or doing a press or he's exactly right. Where is she?

00:25:30.360 Hello? Hello? I mean, she's just this curated version of her old self. And we're supposed to

00:25:36.960 just forget what the old self was and sounded like and believe this new version is the real her.

00:25:42.300 Okay. And, um, JD Vance did a bit of a stunt yesterday to try to call attention to the fact that

00:25:50.100 she's not speaking to the press. She's being protected by them. And here was a bit of that as,

00:25:55.140 um, he, his airplane landed near air force two in Eau Claire, Wisconsin yesterday.

00:26:01.680 I figured I'd come by and, uh, wanted to take a good look at the plane. Hopefully it's going

00:26:08.280 to be my plane in a few months, but I also thought you guys might get lonely because the vice president

00:26:13.100 doesn't answer questions from reporters and hasn't for 17 days. Uh, have they given you guys an

00:26:18.360 explanation for why she won't take questions from reporters? No? Nobody? Okay, great. Well,

00:26:25.700 I hope that she changed your mind because it'd be good for the American people. And I think it'd be

00:26:30.320 good for you all. She actually ran a real campaign instead of one from a basement with a teleprompter.

00:26:35.180 So have a good one guys to see ya. What would you like to hear from her?

00:26:38.640 Tell her to answer your questions. I'd love her to just answer what she wants to do

00:26:42.440 and also explain why every single position she has has changed.

00:26:48.040 And here was the Kamala Harris HQ response. It's a video of one of the dance moms, ladies.

00:26:54.520 And now I want to sit back and relax and enjoy my evening. When all of a sudden I hear this

00:27:02.920 agitating, grating voice. And they're showing his plane. Okay. He's trying to get us to cover.

00:27:11.680 He's trying to get, not us, but the mainstream media to hold her to account, Andrew.

00:27:17.360 Well, it's, it's humiliating to them. That's why they weren't laughing. That's why they're kind of

00:27:21.300 backing up as if he were assaulting them because, you know, you send it out to a reporter. He's

00:27:25.720 supposed to be aggressive. He's supposed to be getting the facts without fear of favor.

00:27:29.880 Obviously they're not, they're not doing that. They don't conceive of their job in that way

00:27:35.400 anymore. I mean, when, when, when I was a reporter, that was the way we thought of our job and you

00:27:39.500 could fail or succeed at it, or you could cheat at it, whatever you want, whatever you were capable

00:27:44.600 of doing, but that's not the way they think of it anymore. They actually think of it as creating

00:27:48.700 this fantasy atmosphere in which we're supposed to vote. I mean, consider, look at this, Megan,

00:27:53.360 you know, one week we're being told that Joe Biden is the smartest guy in the room. He's sharp. He's

00:27:59.580 on top of it. He hasn't lost any of his skill. He's better. This is the best Joe Biden we've ever

00:28:04.220 had. The next day, I mean, two days after the debate, his debate with Trump, suddenly the guy

00:28:09.160 is a drooling fool who's got to step down, who's dragging the entire party with him. Then he steps

00:28:15.080 down and he's George Washington. Oh my God, the incredible selflessness with which he stood aside.

00:28:20.200 You know, I'm getting whiplash at this point. And then, and then Kamala Harris steps up and the

00:28:25.260 same people who have just spent all this time lying to us for once, lying to us twice, lying to us a

00:28:30.180 third time, suddenly, oh, she's so lovable. She's such a competent person and she's moderate. She's not

00:28:36.000 far left at all. She doesn't believe any of the things she said. The one thing that doesn't exist,

00:28:40.740 the one thing that does not exist is video or audio of Kamala Harris saying, I no longer believe

00:28:46.680 all the things that I said and did before. And I actually separate myself from the Joe Biden policies

00:28:52.140 that I've been supporting all this time. And I take back the fact that I lied about him being the

00:28:58.040 sharpest tack in the room. So all of this stuff is fantasy. And there is now no longer a structure

00:29:03.740 except for you and me and Ben at the Daily Wire and Elon Musk. There's no longer a mainstream

00:29:10.760 structure to call these people to account because they no longer conceive of their jobs that way.

00:29:16.220 They conceive of their jobs as creating this fantasy in which you, who's too foolish to understand how

00:29:22.780 wonderful progressivism is, will be tricked into following the progressive path. They've been doing

00:29:28.600 this at least since Obama just ran an entire life. He ran an entire shadow life where he never

00:29:34.860 actually cast a vote, never actually said a word that could be held against him, and then suddenly

00:29:40.260 became a left winger once he got in office. So this is the pattern. I mean, I think we should ask them,

00:29:46.600 if DEI is so good, why is it bad to call Kamala Harris a DEI hire? If progressivism is so great,

00:29:53.540 why do you have to convince us that Tim Walls is a moderate? If all of these things are so

00:29:58.760 wonderful, if it's so wonderful to give porn to kids, to elementary school kids, why can't I read

00:30:03.220 the porn out loud at a PTA meeting? Why is it that everything they do has to be done in secret and

00:30:08.640 the fantasy has to cover it over? The fantasy is exactly right. And it's, it's, it is all part of

00:30:14.280 keeping her underground and not available to the press for questions or for a presser, God forbid.

00:30:20.120 There was some report out today, like maybe after Labor Day, she'll give an interview. Maybe. Are you

00:30:26.560 kidding me? It's August 8th. She's already been out there for 19 days and maybe she'll give an

00:30:33.060 interview after. I mean, it's, it's absurd. And, um, the media meantime is leaning hard into the

00:30:40.120 fabrications around the new Kamala because the fantasy must be created. You know, this false image

00:30:46.820 must be created and built up and supported. And just as JD Vance has to be created into a weirdo,

00:30:52.680 right? Like lies about him. Actual smears have to be propagated by even Tim Walls, his opponent on the

00:30:58.720 VP side. Um, but on Kamala, what they've done is they have, yes, changed all of her weirdness into

00:31:04.580 brat summer. It's cool. It's like, she's the drunk wine aunt. That's what they've been telling us.

00:31:09.180 The nonstop cackle, which is just, she just sounds like a moron. I mean, she's,

00:31:15.340 she does the cackle in response to awkward situations, situations in which she clearly

00:31:20.000 doesn't know what to say. She's, she stumped yet again, because she doesn't seem like a very smart

00:31:25.080 person. So she stumped a lot. So she just uses the cackle. And instead what they've done is try

00:31:30.460 to rebrand this as she's joyful. She's that's her being such a joyful person. And by the way,

00:31:39.420 not just Kamala, but Democrats. So they're parlaying it into the enthusiasm we're seeing

00:31:46.100 by Democrats that they've been brought back from the dead, right? They had a nearly dead candidate

00:31:51.300 who they were going to have to drag across the line weekend at Bernie style on November 5th.

00:31:54.900 Now they've gotten a live person. So they actually are feeling happy, but their joy over the

00:32:00.880 resurrection and heard quote joy, which is really her cackles, um, does not mask the fact that 70%

00:32:08.920 of the country believes we're going in the wrong direction. People can't pay their mortgages.

00:32:14.100 There's a flood of illegals here over 10 million who are hurting people, infecting us fentanyl and so on.

00:32:20.200 And yet just listen, listen to the Pravda media. This is just from like one hour of MSNBC this morning

00:32:28.960 on the joyful message. This joy, this, this campaign of infectious and dynamic joy are these

00:32:37.080 two very positive, joyful, energetic people to embrace the joy, which you see them doing a lot

00:32:42.920 of joy, a lot of optimism out of the box. The vice president has spoken to this eloquently with great

00:32:49.060 joy, great enthusiasm and joy, I think is a great word because you can see this in, in Tim Walton.

00:32:54.000 This week for Democrats has been not to overuse this word, such a joyful one.

00:33:00.120 It was literally one hour. I mean, what do you make of it?

00:33:05.040 Well, it's an, it's infectious joy. It's like syphilis or measles or something. You just

00:33:09.080 can't help catching the joy. And listen, you're right. There, there is some joy in the Democrat

00:33:14.160 party. The people who were going to sit this election out because they could not bring themselves

00:33:18.860 to vote for a dead man are now turning up. And there's no question about this. And the Trump

00:33:24.020 campaign should pay attention to it. And Republicans should pay attention to it. It's a real thing.

00:33:28.740 It's not affecting Trump's popularity, which has remained just about where it was just under 50%.

00:33:34.800 That's, that's good. And because a lot of it has to do with independence, a very small number of

00:33:39.800 independents are going to determine the outcome of this election. And he's still leading with them.

00:33:45.100 And those are important facts, but he has stumbled in the last week or so. It's kind of interesting.

00:33:50.440 You know, he said himself that Kamala Harris was coming. Remember on the golf cart, he said,

00:33:54.800 we're going to have to deal with Kamala Harris. And yet he seemed kind of totally taken aback

00:33:58.780 by her presence and not really known how to attack her. And that has given the Democrats a good week.

00:34:05.420 You know, we shouldn't, we shouldn't ignore the fact that this, the fantasy is powerful. A lot of

00:34:09.400 people live in fantasy. A lot of people don't deal with reality. A lot of people don't know anything.

00:34:14.240 Think about this, Megan. If you go on Kamala Harris's website, you go on Trump's website,

00:34:18.880 it tells you he has agenda 47 and he has all the things that he wants to do. And if you click on those,

00:34:25.540 it takes you to very detailed white papers of the Republican platform. There is not one policy

00:34:31.920 statement on the Kamala Harris website that she did this. I'm pretty sure our show broke that.

00:34:37.960 You know how we broke that news? Yeah. I'm pretty sure we broke that because after we broke it,

00:34:42.140 I started seeing everywhere. But anyway, my friend who is a recovering Democrat, who's now going to

00:34:48.380 campaign for Trump, she sent it to me. She's like, you've got to be kidding me. This is all that's

00:34:53.200 there. I'm like, no, you've got to be kidding me. This can't really be her website. And indeed it is

00:34:57.580 her website. It's just her in a bunch of pride gear. She's just like by pride, gay pride, trans pride

00:35:05.800 with her in the rainbows. We don't know where she stands on anything because she flip flopped via a

00:35:13.060 campaign spokesperson on some things, but not others. But I don't believe the flip plots anyway,

00:35:17.180 because they all were turned toward more moderate things that would make her more electable.

00:35:20.800 Now, I believe what she said the first time when I could see her on camera saying the things.

00:35:26.080 Well, this is the other part of the fantasy, of course, the Democrat Party, the big switch that's

00:35:30.180 going on. And the reason Trump has to fight so hard within his own party is that the Democrat

00:35:35.160 Party has become the party of the elites. I mean, it's where educated people go. It's where people

00:35:39.460 with PhDs go. It's where people who are in the professions go. The working class are now moving to

00:35:44.360 the Republican Party, which is not good for the white shoe kind of Wall Street Journal types who want to

00:35:49.040 keep it the party of uber capitalism. And so Trump is having a hard time in his own party in that

00:35:54.380 regard. But this is this is really important when you look at their issues, the pride flags and the

00:35:59.520 racial ideas and all this stuff. They are constantly pretending to be fighting for the little guy. But

00:36:05.180 if you watch where these movements go, they always become the opposite of what they started out to be.

00:36:09.820 So they start out, you know, racial equality. You think, well, black people should be treated

00:36:14.060 fairly and be treated like everybody else. And you go, yes, yes, yes. And now here we are down

00:36:19.560 the line and suddenly it's they should be hired before anybody else for the color of their skin.

00:36:24.020 Racism is good as long as it's the right racism. We now need to get rid of white people. White people

00:36:28.680 are bad. It's all turned on its head instead of equality. It's actually become another kind of

00:36:32.940 racism. The same thing is true with the gay movement. It starts out with, you know, gay people should be

00:36:38.500 allowed to visit their, you know, loved ones on their deathbed. And then it becomes, no, we have to queer

00:36:43.500 your children. Your children are not well unless they're actually queer themselves. And all of it

00:36:48.320 becomes the reverse. Women, especially, I think it starts out, women should be free to make their

00:36:52.920 own choices. And you go, yes, of course, that makes perfect, good American sense. And it ends up

00:36:57.200 because there's no such thing as women and a man can become a woman. It all gets turned around.

00:37:01.180 And the reason for that is they're not fighting for women or gays or blacks. They're fighting for

00:37:05.260 power. They're fighting for centralized power. Socialism always means centralized power. And they just

00:37:11.000 love that stuff. And that's why, that's why none of this means anything. It's all like imagery that

00:37:15.840 I wrap myself in a rainbow flag, but am I actually doing something that helps a gay guy who wants to

00:37:21.080 start a business, who wants to live his life in peace? Am I actually doing anything for them?

00:37:25.360 It's all, it's all fantasy because it's always about power. It's always about where the money

00:37:30.400 coagulates and where the power coagulates. It's absolutely infuriating to talk to Democrats who

00:37:36.900 only, if they read anything, they read the New York times. So they're actually wrapped up in this

00:37:42.040 fantasy because they're nice people. They're good people. They want good things, but they just don't

00:37:46.980 know what's going on. They are not watching the results among the people, which leads us back to

00:37:53.060 Tim Walsh, by the way, who sat around while Minnesota burned to the ground, Minneapolis burned

00:37:57.700 to the ground. We're going to get into that. Okay. Well, I have a whole thing on that that I want to set up

00:38:02.260 for you, but can I just say when you were talking about it, the obsession with diversity and skin

00:38:06.500 color and all that reminded me of, um, Ann Coulter has a sub stack out now, and she's talking about

00:38:11.580 the Trump comments at the NABJ and how he's like, is she black? You know, she was always kind of going

00:38:16.980 by the Indian thing, but now she says she's black. And Anna was making a point about how there are

00:38:22.280 black descendants of slaves in America. And obviously American slaves were the worst treated

00:38:28.540 Americans in our history. And it's a scourge on the nation and trying to make things better for

00:38:34.980 the slaves and their descendants was a good idea. And the country spent a hundred years trying to do

00:38:41.080 that. Um, however, it's interesting how that, that concern by all Americans, once we got our heads

00:38:51.540 sewn on straight has been bastardized into any person of color is lumped in as though they've

00:38:58.500 had the same experience here in America. Whereas like black immigrants from Jamaica, you know, like

00:39:05.340 her dad have, do they have any connection to that history whatsoever? In fact, usually black immigrants

00:39:11.640 to America tend to be very pro America and do not consider themselves aggrieved. So it does she

00:39:17.300 understand both the black experience as we understand it in that lane to the point where she

00:39:21.420 should be given DEI preferences and Indian people as well. They tend to get counted as diversity,

00:39:27.720 but you know, as the vague, if he considers himself a diversity hire, right? Like Indians tend to be

00:39:33.080 overachieving Americans who are very dedicated to hard work. It's just, her point is that everybody

00:39:37.900 now gets lumped into this same group as though they have the same beleaguered history in this,

00:39:44.280 in this country and are owed the same, you know, attempt to make life better. And you can make an

00:39:50.340 argument that we're past the attempt to make life better for descendants of slaves here in 2024,

00:39:54.680 but the argument becomes a lot stronger when you go beyond direct descendants of American slaves.

00:40:01.500 That's what she's trying to say. Yeah. And the argument has become exactly the reverse of what

00:40:05.760 it was. Let us into the country because the country is great. Live out the meaning of your

00:40:09.880 creed as Martin Luther King said, become more American. It has now become from the founding on,

00:40:15.460 we have been systemically racist. Everything we do is polluted by racism. America has to be

00:40:20.440 fundamentally transformed. That's a reverse of the argument they started with. And so if you don't

00:40:25.560 want to be part of the country, great, you know, leave, that's fine with me. But if you do want to

00:40:29.780 be part of the country, that means ascribing to the Judeo-Christian British values that built this

00:40:35.400 country. And yes, you're absolutely right. Slavery was a shame. It was a shame because it was against

00:40:39.860 the values on which the country was founded. Now these people are actually these activists. It's

00:40:45.760 not, you know, it's not the people a lot of times. It's just the activists. It's just the guys who are

00:40:49.520 talking and most of them are representing very wealthy, very powerful interests. A lot of them

00:40:55.460 are white. A lot of them are actually making themselves feel better about being white or

00:40:59.360 whatever, you know, whatever they're doing psychologically, but they're not actually helping

00:41:03.700 the guys on the ground, the people who need to be protected from crime, the people who need to be

00:41:07.660 educated and lifted up. That's why they let Chicago burn. Right. That's why they let Chicago

00:41:12.940 the guys shoot, shoot each other up. They don't protest for them in the streets with BLM. They

00:41:18.620 just use black crime or anything involving a black victim of a crime when it suits them in an election

00:41:25.740 year. And that's, that's been their MO since I became a reporter. And before I'm going to take a

00:41:30.360 quick break and then we're going to come back. Thank God we have Andrew for the whole show. Cause

00:41:33.800 there's so much more we have to do. We will be taking a deep dive into the misrepresentations

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00:42:43.940 that's been created here. The accent is back. Okay. First, we saw her develop the magical accent when

00:42:54.080 she was down South and now it's back as she's in Detroit. Take a listen.

00:43:00.000 Hold on. You know what? Here, hold on. Here's the thing. The courts are going to handle that.

00:43:06.880 We're going to beat him in November. We're going to beat him in November. Okay? We'll beat him in

00:43:13.400 November. We'll handle that. Because they were chanting, lock him up. We're going to beat him

00:43:19.960 in November. Oh, really? Okay. We all know you don't talk like that. You've been vice president

00:43:24.900 for four years, Andrew. You got to believe this is kind of the point, I think. You know,

00:43:31.260 we're all supposed to just bathe in the fantasy. I mean, it really is like reality television. They

00:43:36.280 keep accusing Trump of being the reality TV star, but that's actually what the press is

00:43:40.540 inventing for this. I love the fact that she's actually not going to do an interview

00:43:44.580 until September, maybe. That's an amazing thing. I just can't help but feel remembering what it was

00:43:51.460 like to be a reporter. I can't help but feel that these guys just must feel belittled and humiliated

00:43:57.900 and useless. They must know they have lost something. No? You think they're all in?

00:44:01.840 No. They're like, good idea. She stinks. Don't put her out there. This is a brilliant campaign

00:44:07.080 strategy. They want a Democrat in the White House more than they want their own dignity.

00:44:13.420 No, it's the older ones who remember what it was like to be a reporter. The new guys are actually

00:44:16.940 taught that this is the right thing to do. And imagine the disdain that includes for the people,

00:44:23.380 right? We have to fool them because they're not smart enough to realize how great progressivism is.

00:44:28.400 I mean, that's got to be the rationale, right? It can't be that we're, you know, we're sneakily just

00:44:32.540 trying to grab power from them. They must be thinking to themselves, these people, namely the

00:44:36.920 American people, are so stupid and so backward that the only way we can convince them to do the right

00:44:42.360 thing is to lie to them about what it is we're actually doing. So progressivism is great,

00:44:47.460 but we're not progressives. That would be terrible. It would be terrible if we're progressives,

00:44:51.280 which is great. It's great to be a progressive, but we're not them because that would be terrible.

00:44:55.160 And they have to keep selling this idea because they must think that we're just that dumb and just

00:45:00.720 that bad. And in fact, they say so.

00:45:02.580 Cover for them. And, and they, they are, but I do wonder, like, we're going to take calls in our

00:45:07.200 second hour. And I do wonder for our black listeners, what, how do you feel when you see

00:45:12.460 you're getting in front of a black audience and suddenly she's like, we're going to be in mid

00:45:15.380 November. Like she doesn't talk like this. Okay. It's so offensive. It's like, I know how to talk

00:45:21.720 to you. I mean, come on. She keeps doing this. I, to me, it's so offensive and they know,

00:45:29.220 we all know she's just a big walking bag of artifice. So I've, I've asked black guys about

00:45:36.700 this because I wonder, yeah. Yeah. I wonder when, when they say, you know, oh, you know,

00:45:41.380 they black people can't open a bank account. What are you talking about? We've got to cancel math

00:45:45.800 classes because black people can't learn math. There's, you know, it's unfair to have a math

00:45:50.380 class or, you know, and I just think like, really, I mean, are you not insulted? Do you not feel

00:45:55.380 belittled and infantilized? And of course the black guys I talked to tend to be a little bit

00:46:01.000 more conservative. So they're all, yeah, that's a terrible thing to say, but I do wonder about the

00:46:05.580 rank and file. I wonder about all these people who show up year after year and vote for Democrats

00:46:10.280 who are telling them that they're so oppressed, that they're so helpless, that they can't do

00:46:14.560 anything if the government doesn't help them. They're all like, you know, it's the life of Julia.

00:46:18.780 You've got to, you know, if you want to have a baby, you've got to get Barack Obama on the phone

00:46:22.140 to give you a baby. You know, it's like, I don't understand why they're not offended to the nth

00:46:26.760 degree. No, now JD Vance will get you your baby because he likes babies. He doesn't like childless

00:46:31.480 cat ladies. So you got to go to JD no longer. Well, that's the other thing. Um, Kamala had a

00:46:36.460 soundbite where she called, uh, Tim Walsh, the varsity coach and JD, the JV. So now on Morning Joe

00:46:46.660 this morning, they all kept calling him JV Vance. This is their new cutesy little thing. Aren't they

00:46:51.460 adorable and so joyful? Um, here's the other moment that's making headlines from her Detroit,

00:46:58.160 Michigan rally where she got interrupted by anti-Israel protesters. They don't care

00:47:04.620 that like that. She's a damn, they're pissed and watch what happened.

00:47:08.480 I'm here because we believe in democracy. Everyone's voice matters, but I am speaking now.

00:47:24.180 I am speaking now. Fight against the climate crisis and he intends to end the affordable care

00:47:33.100 act. You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that. Otherwise I'm speaking.

00:47:39.320 Okay. So Andrew, half the left is in love with this. Like, yeah, girl boss. And then there's

00:48:00.000 the Mehdi Hassans of the world who are angry that she was so dismissive of the pro Hamas

00:48:07.440 wing of the Democrat party. It does underscore the very tricky position that the Democrats are

00:48:14.020 in right now. I mean, she, you know, many people believe she didn't go with Josh Shapiro because

00:48:18.080 she wants to appease that pro Hamas wing, but push comes to shove. She shut him down.

00:48:23.000 That's that. I think that's obvious that they didn't go with Josh Shapiro. First of all,

00:48:26.820 he's a really appealing, actually fairly moderate for a Democrat, a fairly moderate candidate.

00:48:32.320 He's in a swing state, an important state, Pennsylvania, where I don't think Minnesota

00:48:37.040 has voted for a Republican since the seventies. So the only reason they turned Josh Shapiro down

00:48:45.080 is not because of his policies necessarily, but because he's Jewish. It was because there's no

00:48:49.700 way to argue that you're going to be anti-Israel if you're actually Jewish. And the, listen,

00:48:54.860 the anti-Semitism in the Democrat party is rife. Anti-Semitism is a curse that doesn't care

00:49:00.760 which party you belong to, but wherever it shows up, I always call it the devil's flagpole because

00:49:05.300 wherever it shows up, that's where the bad is. And right now it's showing up in the Democrat party

00:49:09.660 in a big, big way. And I think Josh Shapiro, look, you know, I, I, for a Democrat, again,

00:49:16.380 I kind of like him, but I, I was embarrassed for him when he started to apologize for an article he

00:49:22.820 wrote in college saying that it's hard to have a two state solution when the Palestinians want,

00:49:27.200 Palestinians have vowed to wipe every Israeli off the face of the earth. And he said, well,

00:49:31.760 I was young. I thought, I thought, I thought, yeah, you were young and you still believe that

00:49:36.220 honesty was the best policy. You know, you've moved on from that. I just thought that when your

00:49:42.160 party is just erupting with anti-Semitism, that's the time to show some steel in your spine. That's the

00:49:49.060 time to say, look, I am not backing down from this at all because he has been a supporter of Israel

00:49:54.200 and the Biden administration has done nothing but stab Israel in the back. You know, they keep

00:49:59.380 saying all the media, including some of the more conservative media, like the wall street journal,

00:50:04.360 they keep saying, well, America is working for a ceasefire, but they're, if they are, they're doing

00:50:09.200 just the wrong thing. You want to ceasefire, demand the hostages come back and support Israel without

00:50:14.460 any daylight between you and the Israelis. And you'll get your ceasefire. We're going to get cut off in 10

00:50:19.040 seconds. Um, hold that thought. Okay. We're coming back in 10 seconds. Um, after this break, 10 seconds

00:50:24.920 plus this break, and we are going to get into the misleading by the Harris campaign. I'm Megan Kelly,

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00:51:27.140 Andrew, on the, on the stare down by Kamala of the, you know, pro Hamas, whatever pro Palestinian

00:51:39.940 group, whatever you want to call them. It's interesting because Brianna Joy Gray, she's

00:51:45.640 very pro Hamas. She's one of those people who were celebrating the October 7th attack.

00:51:51.340 Um, she got fired from the Hill for that kind of commentary that she was doing. It was pretty

00:51:57.460 incendiary. Um, in any event, she tweeted out in response to that because she was very happy,

00:52:02.340 I think about Harris and certainly I'm sure about walls. And she tweeted out, um, I predicted the

00:52:08.780 glow would wear off of Harris by the time I got back from her vacation in Copenhagen. I got back today.

00:52:15.180 Like this, this is going to be ongoing problem for her because I, well, I think Kamala Harris's

00:52:21.080 sympathies are more with the, the Palestinian protesters. And it certainly sounds like

00:52:26.560 Walt's might be there now. I don't know. A few years ago, he's been saying helpful things about

00:52:30.700 Israel prior to 10 seven. Um, that, that wing doesn't believe it. And that wing wants, you know,

00:52:37.940 a harsh break from support of Israel, any sort of supportive Netanyahu. They want you to go full

00:52:45.620 Hamas or they're not going to be satisfied. Well, once again, note what Kamala Harris actually said

00:52:52.260 to the protesters. Don't say that because Trump will get elected. Not don't say that because it's

00:52:56.740 untrue. Not don't say that because you're supporting a bunch of rapist murderers, uh, you know, jacked up

00:53:01.840 on drugs while I wipe people off the face of the earth, but don't say it because Trump will get

00:53:06.040 elected. So once again, it's the fantasy world that we're being told about Kamala Harris has been

00:53:11.000 far stronger in supporting the Palestinian cause than Joe Biden, who vaguely remember that he was

00:53:16.060 supposed to be pro Israel and was kind of confused to find himself in the new anti-Semitic Democrat

00:53:20.640 party. So he was a little bit, a little bit soft, but their big problem is the DNC, right? It's,

00:53:26.080 it's 1968 in Chicago again, and they're really afraid that their people will show up and turn the

00:53:31.860 whole thing into a melee. And that's why I believe that that must've, I don't have any

00:53:36.340 inside information on this, but I believe that had to have fed in to the decision to throw Shapiro

00:53:41.340 under the bus because they did not want those people turning up and turning the DNC, uh, into a,

00:53:47.880 you know, a riot or any kind of real conflict, especially when you compare it to the RNC, which

00:53:53.500 was such a love fest. So this, this is a serious, serious problem, especially because there was big

00:53:58.760 support, uh, for the Democrats from the Jews, because the Jews are always voting against their

00:54:04.080 best interests. That's one of the racial traits apparently. And now, you know, the Jews are kind

00:54:10.480 of divided. It's, it's almost 50, 50 between Republicans and Democrats. And that is going to

00:54:15.120 be a big blow for Democrats. And of course the squad has taken a couple of hits from APAC already.

00:54:22.000 There's a new poll actually just out on exactly that Siena college. Um, that's up in my neck of the

00:54:27.520 woods by Albany Siena college bowl, New York state, likely voters on the presidential election.

00:54:33.100 Not surprisingly has Harris way above Trump 53 39. Not a surprise, but when you see the breakdown

00:54:38.300 Jewish voters, and there's a large, large Jewish population in the state of New York,

00:54:44.380 mostly in New York city, it's Donald Trump 50 Kamala Harris 49, which is very interesting.

00:54:52.900 I mean, for Jewish New Yorkers, it, it was, um, Biden had a six point advantage over Trump with

00:55:01.480 this group when he was still in the race. And in 2020, Jewish voters supported Biden over Trump

00:55:07.720 68 to 30. When it was 16, Jewish voters chose Hillary over Trump 71 to 26. But here we are

00:55:18.680 and they are tied. I mean, he's up one point, but it's within the margin of error tied with Jewish

00:55:24.800 voters in New York. It's pretty telling. You know, it's, it's really important. I've, I've always

00:55:30.280 had some sympathy for Jewish voters cling to Democrats, even though I knew the antisemitism

00:55:35.660 in the Democrat party was growing. I've known it for years and years, and I knew that their

00:55:39.440 philosophy would naturally lead to antisemitism, but you know, Jews for perfectly valid reasons have

00:55:46.680 very, uh, strong antenna when it comes to bigotry and they want to support other people who are

00:55:51.340 suffering from bigotry. And I have nothing but sympathy, uh, with all of that. But this is like

00:55:56.980 everything else the Democrats do, like everything else the left does. I should be more specific with

00:56:01.080 like everything the left does. It's all a dodge. It's all about power. And it's all about converting

00:56:05.880 this country into a country with a power center. Look, power either goes one of two ways. It either

00:56:11.960 belongs to each of us, or it belongs to all of us. If it belongs to all of us, then it all becomes

00:56:16.480 centered in the government because somebody has to dole out the goods. Somebody has to dole out the

00:56:20.940 money. Somebody has to dole out the positions. Somebody has to dole out all the patronage jobs.

00:56:26.100 That's the Democrat way. And it always has been. And now is more so, but the old way was that power

00:56:31.460 and money belong to each of us. So each of us has to risk. Each of us has to work. Each of us has to

00:56:36.620 be responsible to an employer or an investment. And that's what they're trying to get rid of.

00:56:40.800 And ultimately, Jews, you know, who operate well in the economic world and operate well as

00:56:46.160 individualists, they're the ones who are going to get burned in this. And it's, they're waking up to

00:56:51.800 it. The riots that happened, those pro-Hamas riots on college campuses, I think sent a lot of Jews

00:56:56.760 through the roof and well, it should. You know, up until now, Ben Shapiro has always pointed out that

00:57:02.560 the real divide has been between deeply religious Jews who are in fact conservative and secular Jews who

00:57:08.360 have become part of the mainstream culture who tend to vote Democrats. But like all Democrats,

00:57:13.820 they're not really paying attention. Say again?

00:57:17.160 That used to be you, that second group.

00:57:18.860 Yes, yes, yes, absolutely. That's exactly where I was. And it was only, you know, I started to realize

00:57:24.660 that my values were being transgressed right around the time affirmative action came out. It took me a

00:57:29.480 long time. Look, it takes a long time to change your political affiliation because it's not just based

00:57:34.300 on your culture and your race. It's also based on who your parents voted for and who your family's

00:57:39.400 for and who your friends are and all of those things. You're really taking the bones out of a

00:57:43.680 fish when you change. I mean, it's a really traumatic change to change the way that you vote.

00:57:51.540 But once you see people going out and celebrating the depredations of Hamas,

00:57:56.240 that's got to be a wake up call. I mean, I saw it coming a long, long time ago, but I think

00:58:00.540 a lot of people have seen it now. All right. So we talked about the half of the reactions,

00:58:04.900 which are upset that she was staring down the pro-Hamas protesters. But there are a lot of

00:58:10.940 Democrats who were like, girl boss, you go. She's momala. And it did remind us of that infamous Drew

00:58:20.420 Barrymore moment. Here it is. I keep thinking in my head that we all need a mom. I've been thinking

00:58:30.400 that we really all need a tremendous hug in the world right now. But in our country,

00:58:36.400 we need you to be momala of the country.

00:58:43.840 And as a woman who respects so much and wants to share and wants to be confident and has no

00:58:52.360 ounce of meat that has competitiveness. Yeah.

00:58:56.780 When we lift each other up, we all rise.

00:59:00.060 That's exactly right.

00:59:02.780 That's right. That's right.

00:59:06.100 That's right.

00:59:07.420 However, we need a great protector.

00:59:12.420 So I guess she's in.

00:59:15.440 That's where we're going.

00:59:16.260 Drew Barrymore is my favorite Hollywood personality. She is as if all of Hollywood

00:59:19.760 had been distilled and formed into a single person.

00:59:23.020 I don't even have to. When I when I go to the gym, she's always playing on the television.

00:59:26.560 I don't even have to hear her. I just have to watch her to know what Hollywood is thinking,

00:59:31.020 because that's exactly, you know, please be a please be our mommy, please.

00:59:35.560 Oh, God, it's stomach turning. All right.

00:59:37.540 So I want to turn to.

00:59:39.840 You know, the lies coming out of the Harris Walls campaign about Trump and the Minnesota riots,

00:59:47.360 because one of the biggest strikes against Tim Walls is the way he handled them.

00:59:52.640 He was governor of Minnesota in the post George Floyd riots and Minneapolis burned.

00:59:57.940 The third precinct police department burned.

01:00:00.160 They let it burn.

01:00:01.100 And it wound up being a big fight publicly between the mayor, this left winger, Jacob Frye,

01:00:07.060 and the sitting governor, who is Tim Walls, who was responsible.

01:00:10.900 And now, of course, Trump and others are saying

01:00:13.500 Tim Walls is largely responsible for what happened and doesn't know how to handle a crisis.

01:00:20.040 When a crisis hits, he runs.

01:00:22.920 See the deployment to Iraq that he dodged.

01:00:26.000 See Minneapolis burning.

01:00:28.240 He sat there and twiddled his thumbs and didn't have the guts to do what a leader would do.

01:00:33.020 That's the accusation.

01:00:33.960 OK, so Kamala Harris's team sends out online a version of a phone call between it was Trump.

01:00:44.340 It was A.G. Bill Barr.

01:00:45.700 It was the Joint Chiefs Chair, Mark Milley, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and a number of governors,

01:00:50.380 including Tim Walls.

01:00:51.280 And it happened June 1st, 2020.

01:00:53.620 Keep in mind, George Floyd died May 25th, 2020.

01:00:57.060 So it was about a week after everything had happened.

01:01:00.480 And here's do we have just her version?

01:01:03.320 Do we have her whole version of it?

01:01:04.800 We know we have it just cut.

01:01:05.780 We do.

01:01:06.160 OK, I'm going to play it for you in chunks and then I'm going to play you the full actual

01:01:11.120 version.

01:01:11.760 OK, so you can see what she did.

01:01:13.660 Here's the first part of what she's playing as Trump's praise of Tim Walls.

01:01:17.840 I know Governor Walz is on the phone and we spoke and I fully agree with the way he handled

01:01:26.620 it the last couple of days.

01:01:27.920 I asked him to do that.

01:01:29.100 And the whole world was laughing.

01:01:31.540 Two days, three days later, I spoke to the governor.

01:01:33.840 The governor's, I think, on the call and he's an excellent guy.

01:01:37.440 OK, so that's them saying that's Trump saying, I fully agree with the way Walz handled it.

01:01:43.940 He's an excellent guy.

01:01:45.600 You know, case closed.

01:01:47.340 That's according to Kamala.

01:01:48.880 Here's the full version.

01:01:50.060 I know Governor Walz is on the phone and we spoke and I fully agree with the way he handled

01:01:59.900 it the last couple of days.

01:02:01.180 I asked him to do that.

01:02:02.620 And a lot of men, we have all the men and women that you need and people aren't calling

01:02:07.260 them up.

01:02:07.660 You have to dominate.

01:02:08.700 If you don't dominate, you're wasting your time.

01:02:10.740 They're going to run over you.

01:02:11.700 You're going to look like a bunch of jerks.

01:02:13.600 And the whole world was laughing.

01:02:16.380 Two days, three days later, I spoke to the governor.

01:02:18.660 The governor's, I think, on the call and he was an excellent guy.

01:02:23.420 And all of a sudden, and I said, you got to use the National Guard in big numbers.

01:02:28.520 They didn't at first, then they did.

01:02:30.360 And I'll tell you that, I don't know what it was.

01:02:32.360 It was governor, it was the third night, fourth night.

01:02:36.020 Those guys walked through that stuff like it was butter.

01:02:39.220 They walked right through and you haven't had any problems.

01:02:45.320 OK, you see the difference there, Andrew, right?

01:02:48.660 Right.

01:02:49.160 Of course, he was waiting.

01:02:50.140 It was three days before Walls called out the guard, despite the fact that the mayor

01:02:55.140 was begging and the police chief was begging.

01:02:57.900 And Megan, I think you're being too kind to him to call him a mere coward.

01:03:01.440 I think that it was not that there was a crisis and he ran.

01:03:04.040 It was his sympathy with the rioters.

01:03:05.680 He said so.

01:03:06.640 He said that if you call out the National Guard, the rioters are going to see that as part of

01:03:11.780 the problem, you know, the police being the problem, not the criminals, not the people

01:03:15.860 who are causing the police to have to do what they do.

01:03:19.000 His wife said she opened the windows so she could smell the tires burning because it was

01:03:23.280 such an iconic moment.

01:03:24.960 And later said that she really felt America deserved what it was getting.

01:03:28.960 I think they both did.

01:03:30.000 They both really took that position that this was somehow an expression of justice.

01:03:35.360 And talking about fantasy, you know, the George Floyd story is a complete fantasy.

01:03:41.020 I mean, that's it was not even even if you take it, even if you believe and I do not

01:03:45.700 believe this, but even if you believe Derek Chauvin murdered him, which I think is nonsense.

01:03:49.240 But even if you believe that it's not representative of the way the police treat people.

01:03:53.520 And it's certainly not representative of the way the police treat black people.

01:03:56.520 And it's not representative of the way black people feel about the police because they

01:03:59.880 know without the police they're cooked because there's a lot of crime in poor black

01:04:03.660 neighborhoods, as there tend to be in many poor neighborhoods.

01:04:06.780 And so the whole thing is a fantasy.

01:04:08.800 And the idea that we needed to defund the police, which is insane, you know, that that's

01:04:14.360 a fantasy.

01:04:14.820 And it's just it's just a strange thing that we are now living in a world that is maybe

01:04:20.940 so rich and so protected that when we come into contact with reality, we think it's offensive.

01:04:26.040 We think that when people speak bluntly and say the things that we all know are true, it's

01:04:30.200 somehow a bad thing to do.

01:04:32.000 I mean, that's what they're getting J.D.

01:04:33.380 Vance on.

01:04:33.920 He tends to say things directly.

01:04:36.200 But yeah, he really abandoned the poorest people in his community to the worst people

01:04:41.760 in his community, many of them outside agitators.

01:04:44.500 People were looking outside and seeing their favorite stores burn.

01:04:48.100 Nicole, what's her name?

01:04:49.080 Nicole, I can never remember her name, but from the New York Times, the lady who did the

01:04:53.640 1619 project.

01:04:54.940 Hannah Brown?

01:04:56.200 Yeah, she's saying, oh, it's not really violence.

01:04:59.240 Hannah Johnson.

01:04:59.520 And yeah, Hannah Johnson, she's saying it's not really violence because it's only property.

01:05:04.340 It's not people.

01:05:05.540 Well, there's property of people's dreams and people's jobs and the places that they

01:05:09.340 go to get their medicine.

01:05:10.780 Not to mention those cops' lives, Andrew.

01:05:11.900 I mean, that precinct was burned to the ground.

01:05:14.700 Yep.

01:05:15.200 Yep.

01:05:15.620 And it was just abandoned by Walsh.

01:05:18.180 And again, I don't think it was cowardice.

01:05:19.880 I don't think it was, you know, there was a crisis and he ran for it.

01:05:22.700 I think he was in sympathy with the people burning his capital in the city and the state.

01:05:28.360 You're exactly right.

01:05:29.300 That's exactly right.

01:05:30.060 Because his statements after the fact did suggest that.

01:05:31.960 And how about the wife?

01:05:33.780 Like, well, I rolled down the windows and I smelled the tires.

01:05:36.980 Oh, sure.

01:05:37.360 Well, you're basically just like one of the protesters, ma'am.

01:05:39.520 You totally get the plight of black America.

01:05:41.420 You smelled some burning tires for a while, did you?

01:05:43.440 But then it got noxious.

01:05:44.480 So you put the windows right back up.

01:05:45.680 Okay.

01:05:46.140 Yeah, you get it.

01:05:47.360 That reminded me of a population.

01:05:48.480 So here, let me keep going because there's more.

01:05:50.500 There's more.

01:05:51.380 So $500 million of damage, by the way, while Tim Walsh sat there.

01:05:55.380 And now he's claiming Trump said he did a good job.

01:05:57.460 But again, for the listening audience, you could hear him saying,

01:06:00.240 we've got all these men and women.

01:06:02.880 We've got all the people you need, but people aren't calling them up.

01:06:05.500 You have to dominate.

01:06:06.900 He's saying, and I said to Tim Walsh, this is what he's saying.

01:06:10.280 I said, you got to use the National Guard and take the numbers.

01:06:13.600 And they didn't at first, then they did.

01:06:16.640 And he said, I'll tell you, third night, fourth night, these guys,

01:06:20.400 they walked through the stuff like it was butter,

01:06:21.940 meaning the National Guard, when they finally got there,

01:06:23.960 they walked right through and you haven't had any problems since.

01:06:27.040 That's the context in which he's praising them.

01:06:29.000 You sucked in the beginning.

01:06:30.600 Then I talked to you and told you what to do and you got better.

01:06:34.940 Now here's version two.

01:06:37.580 Kamala Harris and the same thing she's released,

01:06:40.700 ostensibly showing how Trump loved Tim Walsh

01:06:43.080 and how he handled it, included this line.

01:06:47.480 This is on the phone now, Tim Walsh.

01:06:49.240 Again, I was very happy with the last couple of days.

01:06:52.700 And you called up big numbers and the big numbers

01:06:55.360 knocked them out so fast.

01:06:57.520 It was like bowling pins.

01:06:59.640 Yeah, our city is grieving and in pain.

01:07:03.840 Okay, here's the full version.

01:07:07.200 It is on the phone now, Tim Walsh.

01:07:08.940 Again, I was very happy with the last couple of days, Tim.

01:07:12.680 You called up big numbers and the big numbers

01:07:15.240 knocked them out so fast it was like bowling pins.

01:07:19.280 Is Tim there?

01:07:20.140 Because I'd like to maybe have him explain

01:07:21.920 the difference between the beginning and the end.

01:07:24.540 And then we're going to come back.

01:07:27.520 Tim, are you there?

01:07:29.220 I am.

01:07:29.920 Thank you, Mr. President.

01:07:30.880 I want to thank you to Secretary Secretary General Milley

01:07:34.100 for your strategic guidance.

01:07:37.840 Very helpful.

01:07:39.520 Yeah, our city is grieving and in pain.

01:07:42.300 And then just let me play you

01:07:44.980 what happens right after that.

01:07:48.200 It's about 20.

01:07:50.000 I've spent 24 years on the Guard.

01:07:51.980 The one thing I would say is that you could do it.

01:07:54.220 A lot of people don't understand

01:07:56.040 who the National Guard is.

01:07:57.640 And you need to get out there from a PR perspective

01:07:59.880 and make sure that it's not seen as an occupying force,

01:08:02.760 but it's their neighbors, school teachers,

01:08:04.360 business owners, those types of things.

01:08:06.240 That's a really effective method.

01:08:09.800 Okay, good.

01:08:10.480 I think that's a good idea.

01:08:11.320 I must tell you, it got so bad a few nights ago

01:08:14.800 that the people wouldn't have minded an occupying force.

01:08:17.760 I wish we had an occupying force in there.

01:08:20.340 But for some reason, I don't know what it is,

01:08:23.180 governors don't like calling up a lot of...

01:08:26.000 Right.

01:08:26.760 We have thousands and thousands of people

01:08:28.980 waiting to be called up.

01:08:30.300 Is that a correct statement, General?

01:08:32.080 350,000.

01:08:33.360 350,000.

01:08:35.220 We have 350,000 people,

01:08:37.200 and they call up 200.

01:08:39.300 Tim did that the first night,

01:08:42.240 which wasn't successful.

01:08:43.240 What happened is after that,

01:08:44.480 he said,

01:08:44.900 let's go.

01:08:45.940 And I'll tell you,

01:08:47.360 it was like magic.

01:08:48.580 Can you believe how deceptively that call has been edited?

01:08:55.060 He, the whole point of the call was Trump saying,

01:08:57.840 you were screwing it up.

01:08:59.800 Then you talked to me and my defense secretary.

01:09:02.680 We told you to get the National Guard in there.

01:09:05.320 By the way,

01:09:06.080 then you didn't call them up in enough numbers.

01:09:07.740 And only when you did,

01:09:09.940 did things get better for you.

01:09:11.340 And he's talking with the other governors saying,

01:09:13.220 that's what you have to do.

01:09:14.660 It has to be brute force in huge numbers,

01:09:17.060 not brute force,

01:09:17.620 but huge numbers in order to get the results that you want.

01:09:21.080 And Kamala Harris has released that

01:09:23.060 with just those little snippets of praise

01:09:25.660 as if Trump endorsed Tim Walz's approach to this.

01:09:30.720 You just got to get with the fantasy, Megan.

01:09:32.680 You're just trying to show you,

01:09:33.860 you're just striving for too much reality here.

01:09:35.740 And I think it's going against the program.

01:09:38.020 Also, I just want to add that the wall says to him,

01:09:40.720 thank you for your guidance, Mr. President.

01:09:42.720 Whereas later on,

01:09:43.520 he made a speech saying the president had been unhelpful

01:09:46.240 and he didn't know what he was talking about.

01:09:47.880 And, you know, I don't need your help and all that stuff.

01:09:50.360 So really, really is deceptive all the way down.

01:09:53.940 Well, let me,

01:09:54.980 let me just give you a little bit of the timeline

01:09:56.260 because you mentioned it.

01:09:57.080 All right.

01:09:57.300 Just to, just to give you some color on this

01:09:59.160 and why he was so grateful.

01:10:01.920 You've got Monday, May 25th,

01:10:03.900 George Floyd's killed Tuesday, May 26th,

01:10:05.740 the protest first breakout.

01:10:07.800 1500 businesses burned Wednesday, May 27th.

01:10:11.860 Okay.

01:10:12.120 This is Wednesday, two days later,

01:10:13.800 second evening of unrest.

01:10:15.040 That's when the Minneapolis mayor,

01:10:16.480 Jacob Fry first as walls,

01:10:17.980 please, please, please deploy the national guard

01:10:20.240 at six 29 PM.

01:10:22.140 Walsh did not say yes.

01:10:23.360 We've seen statements from Jacob Fry later saying

01:10:27.360 Walsh is hesitating.

01:10:28.580 He didn't understand why.

01:10:30.580 Hours later,

01:10:31.160 the city's police chief submitted a written request

01:10:33.400 for 600 troops not responded to.

01:10:37.000 And you've got, um,

01:10:39.200 Walsh acknowledging this is an extremely dangerous situation,

01:10:41.600 but he's not doing anything about it.

01:10:42.740 So Minneapolis burns on the night of Wednesday,

01:10:46.400 May 27th.

01:10:47.800 And it had already been in trouble prior to that

01:10:49.960 because that was the second evening.

01:10:51.860 Now we get to the third day,

01:10:53.960 May, uh, 28th, Thursday,

01:10:56.980 Jacob Fry tweets,

01:10:58.180 please Minneapolis.

01:10:59.260 We're asking for your help.

01:11:00.380 Keep the peace tonight.

01:11:01.540 His office follows up to Tim Walsh.

01:11:03.360 Where are you?

01:11:04.340 Where's our national guard?

01:11:05.320 We need help.

01:11:06.360 Now he puts it in writing.

01:11:07.780 Please send in the national guard.

01:11:09.420 There's widespread looting and arson.

01:11:11.580 They're going into night three of this Thursday.

01:11:14.740 Finally in the afternoon,

01:11:16.380 two 30 wall signs an executive order,

01:11:18.120 activating the national guard saying he really wants to protect the peaceful

01:11:23.200 demonstrators,

01:11:24.340 the neighbors and the small businesses.

01:11:26.760 And then at four 13 PM national guards,

01:11:29.200 Twitter account says we're ready and prepared that same night.

01:11:32.360 The three,

01:11:33.220 the third precinct burns walls only sent in 90.

01:11:37.120 He only sent in 90 of the national guardsmen.

01:11:41.260 He had hundreds,

01:11:42.140 uh,

01:11:42.980 that he could have sent and he didn't.

01:11:44.940 Then Friday,

01:11:46.000 uh,

01:11:47.120 Trump tweeted,

01:11:48.500 I can't stand back and watch this happen to a great American city,

01:11:52.180 Minneapolis,

01:11:52.880 a total lack of leadership.

01:11:54.680 Either the very weak radical left mayor,

01:11:56.880 Jacob Fry gets his act together and bring the city under control,

01:11:59.960 or I will send in the national guard and get the job done.

01:12:03.460 Right.

01:12:04.520 Um,

01:12:05.020 then he said,

01:12:05.600 just spoke to governor Tim Walz,

01:12:06.900 told him that the military is with him all the way,

01:12:09.840 any difficulty,

01:12:10.560 and we will assume control.

01:12:12.180 So that's reflected in what we would see a couple of days later.

01:12:14.720 He was talking to wall saying,

01:12:16.320 send in the damn national guard.

01:12:18.600 And now we do know that it wasn't fry.

01:12:21.540 It was walls who was ignoring Jacob fry and not sending the guard.

01:12:28.340 Um,

01:12:29.000 and then Saturday,

01:12:30.340 May 30th,

01:12:31.640 Tim Walz finally activated the entire Minnesota national guard,

01:12:36.160 Trump had offered the use of active duty soldiers to assist.

01:12:41.100 Uh,

01:12:41.500 and then the next day,

01:12:42.600 Monday was Trump's call with those governors.

01:12:45.320 I mean,

01:12:45.840 it's just,

01:12:46.460 I mean,

01:12:47.860 it's just,

01:12:48.360 let me just give you one other thing.

01:12:49.600 And then I'm going to give you the floor.

01:12:50.660 I've been talking too long.

01:12:52.960 This is the media rather than reading through the transcripts or going,

01:12:57.040 pull,

01:12:57.160 this is not a secret call that we just got our hands on.

01:12:59.280 The media has known about this call since 2020.

01:13:01.020 Here's some of the,

01:13:02.240 the,

01:13:02.460 the,

01:13:03.580 the,

01:13:03.780 the write-ups CNN Trump in 2020 praised Tim Walz's handling of the George Floyd protests.

01:13:10.000 AP news Trump praised Minnesota governor walls in 2020 for response to unrest over Floyd's

01:13:15.460 murder audio shows ABC despite new criticism,

01:13:19.460 new criticism.

01:13:20.460 Trump told walls in 2020,

01:13:21.920 he was very happy with his handling of George Floyd protests.

01:13:24.360 The new Republic newly leaked audio exposes how Trump truly feels about Kamala's VP.

01:13:29.760 I could keep going.

01:13:31.240 This is the game.

01:13:32.480 This is how it goes.

01:13:33.180 They make up the lies.

01:13:34.400 They deceptively edit.

01:13:35.940 They push the lies with the help of all of the mainstream media,

01:13:39.940 all of them.

01:13:41.320 And then it's up to people like you and me on shows like ours to try to set the record straight.

01:13:47.820 I'm done.

01:13:48.640 Yes.

01:13:48.900 And I,

01:13:49.100 and I should,

01:13:49.920 we should mention that according to the New York post,

01:13:52.140 Walz's daughter was informed of classified information,

01:13:56.360 given classified information as to where the deployment of the national guard would be

01:14:00.440 and alerted rioters to where they were coming so that they could stay safe from the authorities.

01:14:06.900 I mean,

01:14:07.080 that's,

01:14:07.420 that's also part of the story.

01:14:08.940 And it's part of the story that when Tom Cotton wrote a op-ed for the New York times

01:14:13.860 saying the national guard should be called out to stop rioting,

01:14:17.080 that the one of the editors who allegedly,

01:14:20.580 you know,

01:14:21.240 approved the op-ed was fired for letting a senator have an opinion in the New York times

01:14:26.880 because we deserved it.

01:14:28.800 We deserve to have our cities burned down because we're just that racist.

01:14:32.620 And,

01:14:33.100 and that really is their opinion.

01:14:34.920 And it really is an opinion that affects the poorest among us the most.

01:14:39.120 It is the people who have the least,

01:14:41.180 who lose the most in these riots.

01:14:42.720 And these cities don't come back.

01:14:44.680 You know,

01:14:44.900 George Floyd square in Minneapolis is now a no go zone for police.

01:14:49.320 It's one of the highest crime areas in the city.

01:14:51.900 You can't go in there safely.

01:14:53.600 So that's,

01:14:54.380 that's the tribute to George Floyd that now everybody in that area is a criminal.

01:14:58.360 And so,

01:14:58.960 you know,

01:14:59.600 who gets hurt by this?

01:15:00.800 It's,

01:15:00.980 it's obviously,

01:15:01.840 it's always,

01:15:02.580 it's just like inflation.

01:15:03.840 You know,

01:15:04.040 it's like they keep telling us,

01:15:05.620 why is it you people don't like the economy?

01:15:07.820 What's wrong with you people?

01:15:08.780 How come you don't like the economy?

01:15:10.280 And you think like,

01:15:10.700 yeah,

01:15:10.880 because we can't afford anything,

01:15:12.060 but you can,

01:15:13.060 the rich people can afford to have a riot.

01:15:15.140 The rich people have other homes.

01:15:16.400 They have other places they can go.

01:15:17.580 They can leave.

01:15:18.540 It's the people on the ground who get hurt every single time.

01:15:21.260 And that is what has made the Democrats,

01:15:23.360 the party of wealthy people who do not understand that their policies,

01:15:29.220 their dreamy fantasy policies have real life implications for the weakest and the smallest

01:15:33.740 among us.

01:15:34.300 And it's just,

01:15:34.800 it's absolutely infuriating.

01:15:36.560 And it's absolutely infuriating that Donald Trump,

01:15:39.980 who weirdly enough,

01:15:41.220 weirdly enough for a billionaire does seem to have some kind of feeling for the ordinary

01:15:45.920 guy.

01:15:46.540 I mean,

01:15:46.740 there's just something about him.

01:15:48.360 I've always said the finest moment of his presidency was that time that the Marines

01:15:52.380 hat blew off and he went chasing after it because he did it without thinking.

01:15:55.960 And that really is who he is.

01:15:57.380 You know,

01:15:57.520 there's something about him that sort of gets the guy on the floor.

01:16:00.380 I don't know where that comes from.

01:16:01.860 It's a very New York trait in New York.

01:16:04.200 Everybody's so pressed together that you all sort of know each other.

01:16:06.500 And you do have a feeling for the construction business.

01:16:09.220 Yeah.

01:16:09.900 Yeah.

01:16:10.300 And it's,

01:16:10.900 it is funny.

01:16:11.460 This is what we're really dealing with is we're dealing with the fact that the media

01:16:15.060 has become corporate and has become a,

01:16:18.200 a job.

01:16:19.100 Journalists go into that job after getting education in the old days.

01:16:22.960 It was where smart people without an education went.

01:16:25.460 And so they hated anybody in power,

01:16:27.080 willing to report on anybody abusing their power.

01:16:30.000 Yeah.

01:16:30.360 And this is,

01:16:31.100 this is now our journalists are all elites.

01:16:33.340 They're all from the top universities.

01:16:35.980 If you get hired at the New York times,

01:16:37.660 you practically need to have a Ivy league school branded on your forehead.

01:16:41.600 And they all share these ideas that have absolutely no relationship to the

01:16:46.260 weakest and the poorest among us.

01:16:47.620 It is absolutely terrifying to watch the power just coagulate between government,

01:16:53.580 the Academy and the press.

01:16:55.620 And so when those people call themselves the resistance,

01:16:57.600 it's a joke because the only people that are resisting are the people.

01:17:01.000 So we had president Biden is the most vigorous,

01:17:05.360 astute president Biden ever of his entire career.

01:17:09.340 That lie pushed and propagated by Joe Scarborough and all on the mainstream media.

01:17:13.560 He's amazing.

01:17:14.160 He's great.

01:17:14.880 These are cheap fakes.

01:17:15.900 You're not seeing what you're seeing.

01:17:17.100 Then we have Kamala Harris.

01:17:19.540 She's the second coming.

01:17:21.000 She's Mamala.

01:17:22.060 She's joyful.

01:17:23.520 And he's folksy.

01:17:24.900 He's just folksy.

01:17:25.700 In case you hadn't noticed,

01:17:26.440 Tim Walz is just folksy.

01:17:27.500 He's definitely not trying to take custody from parents so he can allow them to have their body

01:17:31.720 parts chopped off as minors.

01:17:33.120 For sure.

01:17:33.680 That's a lie too.

01:17:34.300 They want us to know bullshit.

01:17:35.680 It's true.

01:17:37.320 All these lies we talked about at the top of the hour,

01:17:41.120 there's no there there on the military stolen valor stuff.

01:17:44.340 Those are lies too.

01:17:45.660 Don't believe that.

01:17:46.940 He didn't do anything whatsoever.

01:17:49.080 Didn't misstate anything about his record.

01:17:52.000 And by the way,

01:17:53.220 Trump was 100% pleased with Tim Walz's handling of the National Guard and the Minneapolis riots.

01:17:58.340 Okay.

01:17:58.480 Like the lie,

01:17:59.280 we're stewing in the lies.

01:18:01.120 And that leads me to my last point.

01:18:02.660 And that is these two sexual differences,

01:18:07.580 males in the Olympics fighting as boxers.

01:18:11.620 I say that because they're not technically trans.

01:18:14.280 They're not like guys who were born and lived their childhoods as boys and then decided to dress

01:18:19.200 up as women and fight.

01:18:20.380 They were born with DSDs is what we call it.

01:18:23.520 It used to be called intersex or hermaphrodite.

01:18:25.680 And this particular disorder that's been listed,

01:18:28.020 these XY chromosomes for these particular two,

01:18:30.720 means that you're a male,

01:18:34.160 but your genitals don't fully develop on the outside.

01:18:36.800 And so you may actually be raised as a girl,

01:18:39.480 especially in some cultures like Algeria.

01:18:41.960 But it is very clear to all,

01:18:43.960 as soon as you hit puberty,

01:18:45.040 if not before,

01:18:46.020 you're a boy because you will start growing.

01:18:48.400 The testes are already in you.

01:18:49.820 There's no female body parts inside.

01:18:52.240 The testes are in you.

01:18:53.320 Sometimes they will descend.

01:18:54.260 Sometimes a penis will start to grow.

01:18:55.640 You will 100% go through male puberty and you will get all the benefits of male puberty

01:19:00.260 that any man does with the lengthening of the femur and all the bones and the heart

01:19:05.300 enlarging and the lung capacity growing and the bone strength and the muscles,

01:19:10.120 all of it.

01:19:10.600 You will get all those advantages.

01:19:12.160 And that is what happened to these two Olympic boxers,

01:19:15.200 one from Taiwan,

01:19:16.220 one from Algeria.

01:19:17.400 And we're not allowed to talk about it because they have DSDs and that's sad.

01:19:26.700 And that is sad,

01:19:27.720 but I'm more sad for the women who are getting punched in the face as we watch this.

01:19:31.220 And I'll give you the media coverage,

01:19:32.340 just a couple of examples on these two.

01:19:34.700 All right.

01:19:35.180 Because they're both now going to get a gold medal.

01:19:36.940 They're in different weight classes.

01:19:37.900 They're not fighting each other,

01:19:38.680 but they're both going to get a gold medal because they're well,

01:19:41.900 or at least a silver because they're in the last round of the games.

01:19:45.660 So they,

01:19:47.420 two of the gold medalists in a,

01:19:49.480 in a female boxing could very well be men.

01:19:52.960 That's the blue guy is,

01:19:54.620 is the man,

01:19:55.240 one of the men box in New York times boxer and controversy over eligibility.

01:19:58.640 Let's her gloves do the talking cue fawning coverage about how she's a woman.

01:20:04.620 Um,

01:20:06.140 let's see Washington post and main Caliph.

01:20:08.280 That's one of them won her match.

01:20:09.560 The talk about her was a loss for everyone.

01:20:12.300 The biggest tragedy is that detractors are boxing in,

01:20:15.660 and women determining that female athletes must look and behave a certain way.

01:20:21.980 Yes,

01:20:23.020 they must be women.

01:20:24.240 They don't,

01:20:25.220 we don't care if they look like women.

01:20:26.400 They have to actually be women declaring that anyone who doesn't fit a particular mold

01:20:30.940 should be hauled into a clinic for an invasive series of exams.

01:20:34.360 They knew from a damn cheek swab followed up by a blood test.

01:20:38.280 That's those are not invasive blood.

01:20:39.700 A cheek swab could tell if you're X,

01:20:41.380 Y or X sec in two seconds.

01:20:43.800 Then there's the sun.

01:20:45.720 A main Caliph's Caliph is the world's first fictional trans Olympian.

01:20:49.920 Those who labeled her male were deeply irresponsible.

01:20:53.640 Uh,

01:20:53.920 AP for female athletes of color,

01:20:56.640 scrutiny around gender roles and identity is part of a lose a long trend.

01:21:01.340 It's about her color is color.

01:21:03.120 USA today,

01:21:04.340 unhinged controversy around Olympic boxer and main Caliph should never happen again.

01:21:09.540 Correct.

01:21:10.160 The controversy is that you USA today won't call him a male,

01:21:13.400 which is what he is.

01:21:14.360 AP news vitriol about female boxer wrong.

01:21:17.380 A main Caliph fuels concerns of backlash against LGBTQ plus and women athletes.

01:21:21.560 What the,

01:21:22.900 the back,

01:21:23.880 what are you saying?

01:21:24.820 Wired the shameful controversy over Olympic boxer,

01:21:27.260 a main Caliph,

01:21:28.220 and then Bloomberg.

01:21:29.260 This is all a manufactured controversy.

01:21:31.040 They truly want us to believe this is a woman and we are the problem for objecting.

01:21:37.560 You know,

01:21:40.760 I used to be a big boxing fan and it's very hard for me to watch boxing now because

01:21:44.540 physical conditioning has gotten so much better.

01:21:47.640 These guys are so much more powerful than they used to be,

01:21:49.800 but the human head is still as soft as it ever was.

01:21:52.320 So it's,

01:21:52.560 it's much harder for me to watch a boxing match than it used to be.

01:21:56.080 To watch a woman get punched in the face is almost unbearable.

01:21:59.660 Unlike a lot of people.

01:22:00.680 When I was,

01:22:01.200 when I was a kid,

01:22:01.860 I got in a lot of fights.

01:22:02.960 That's why I look like this.

01:22:04.220 And I've,

01:22:04.980 I've punched people in the face and I've been punched in the face.

01:22:07.980 And all of these to talk about fantasy coming home to roost,

01:22:11.440 all of these television shows in which a five foot four girl hits a guy and he

01:22:15.620 goes rolling out the door,

01:22:17.960 pure fantasy.

01:22:18.860 And yet a lot of women actually believe it.

01:22:20.980 A lot of women actually believe that if they're attacked by a man,

01:22:23.840 they're going to have some sort of chance to fight it out with them.

01:22:27.240 That's why that's what they're depending on in this case.

01:22:29.660 When I saw that Italian girl and I don't remember her name,

01:22:32.360 get hit in the face by this guy.

01:22:33.840 And she fell down and started crying saying,

01:22:36.260 this is not fair.

01:22:37.080 I thought that that's understating the case.

01:22:40.080 That is understating the case.

01:22:41.120 All your training,

01:22:41.840 all your dreams,

01:22:42.660 all your hopes,

01:22:43.220 all the work you put in,

01:22:44.120 all the discipline you showed had just been thrown away so that this fantasy

01:22:48.660 that men can become women and there's no difference.

01:22:51.240 And women,

01:22:51.820 you know,

01:22:52.220 women actually don't exist,

01:22:53.540 which is really what they're going for.

01:22:56.040 All of that can be played out as if this life were some kind of fantasy.

01:23:01.660 It's terrible to have the Olympic committee essentially say that it's all right for a man

01:23:07.820 to punch a woman.

01:23:09.080 You know,

01:23:09.460 I mean,

01:23:09.840 I've been trying,

01:23:10.740 I've been trying,

01:23:11.600 you know,

01:23:11.800 I've,

01:23:12.040 I've,

01:23:12.400 I've been with my wife for 50 years.

01:23:14.380 I love her to death.

01:23:15.340 I've been treating her with respect and kindness.

01:23:17.500 Now I can explain to her that the Olympic committee says,

01:23:19.680 all I have to do is clock her and that's fine.

01:23:22.680 You can get a metal sport.

01:23:23.960 It's a sport,

01:23:24.660 you know?

01:23:24.860 Yeah.

01:23:25.520 I mean,

01:23:26.280 it's,

01:23:26.640 it's an atrocity.

01:23:27.840 It is absolutely wrong at the deepest possible level,

01:23:31.340 but that's how precious their fantasy is for them.

01:23:34.420 That girls have to lose their sports,

01:23:36.100 that they have to lose their work,

01:23:37.560 that they have to be disrespected.

01:23:38.680 They have to lose their private spaces so that people with penises come,

01:23:42.180 come marching through their locker rooms and they just,

01:23:44.880 Hey,

01:23:45.020 just get used to it because this is the fantasy we're going for now.

01:23:48.260 It really is.

01:23:49.380 It shows you how dear this fantasy is to the left because leftism itself is

01:23:53.680 kind of a fantasy version of the world.

01:23:56.380 What's happened here is they've managed to genuinely confuse people because

01:24:01.320 the IOC just keeps saying they're women,

01:24:03.860 that they were quote born women,

01:24:06.160 which they weren't.

01:24:07.560 They have X,

01:24:08.760 Y chromosomes and they're trying to cast doubt on the international association

01:24:13.200 of boxing or the boxing federation.

01:24:15.100 Can I,

01:24:15.260 can I remember exactly what it's called,

01:24:16.400 but that was the sporting body that oversaw boxing until the IOC rested control from them,

01:24:22.340 claiming there were some financial irregularities.

01:24:25.100 Okay.

01:24:25.540 I don't know whether that's true or not,

01:24:27.020 not enough into the sport,

01:24:28.040 but I do know that we've now had a doctor who's on the board of the boxing federation

01:24:32.300 and a well-respected sports journalist who spent his career at NBC,

01:24:36.000 who says he saw the tests.

01:24:38.400 He saw the photographic evidence from the test.

01:24:40.980 Both of them were saying both texted positive for X,

01:24:44.420 Y.

01:24:45.060 That's why they were disqualified from fighting in worlds in 2023.

01:24:49.380 And the Taiwanese fighter chose not to appeal that ruling.

01:24:55.480 Ask yourself this.

01:24:57.020 If you're about to fight in the gold medal round and they tell you,

01:25:01.100 you can't because you're not actually a woman and you are one.

01:25:06.380 Why the hell would you not appeal?

01:25:08.460 It makes no sense.

01:25:10.820 And a main Caliph,

01:25:11.860 same exact position filed an appeal though,

01:25:14.660 and then withdrew it.

01:25:16.260 These two are male.

01:25:18.660 Look at this.

01:25:19.800 We know this is a man.

01:25:22.340 Eyes still matter.

01:25:24.580 They can still inform you.

01:25:25.800 When you go in to be a juror in a jury room,

01:25:28.520 the court will tell you,

01:25:29.880 the lawyers will tell you,

01:25:31.160 you don't check your common sense at the door.

01:25:33.320 They want you to bring that in when you assess controversies.

01:25:36.140 This is a male.

01:25:37.340 And I stopped saying man,

01:25:39.600 because I've gotten a lot of email from my viewers saying,

01:25:42.140 no man would punch a woman in the face for sport.

01:25:45.260 Stop calling him a man.

01:25:46.400 It's an insult to men.

01:25:47.580 So I say male now.

01:25:49.620 And the one woman who lost to the Taiwanese guy,

01:25:52.740 most recently depriving her a medal now,

01:25:56.500 her name is Ezra Yildiz Karaman.

01:26:01.060 She's from Turkey.

01:26:02.480 She lost 5-0 on Wednesday.

01:26:04.320 She is one.

01:26:06.940 The second woman to hold up the XX symbol to do XX when it was done.

01:26:13.180 Look at her.

01:26:14.520 I'm a woman.

01:26:15.820 And this sport is for women.

01:26:17.660 And we,

01:26:19.140 I just,

01:26:19.820 I can't believe,

01:26:21.880 I mean,

01:26:22.120 I can believe it.

01:26:23.160 It's kind of the theme of the show,

01:26:24.360 but I can't,

01:26:25.480 I kind of can't believe

01:26:26.580 that all these publications

01:26:28.880 are just going with it.

01:26:31.120 Like,

01:26:32.320 she doesn't

01:26:32.800 F the fighters.

01:26:34.860 F them with the XX.

01:26:36.400 You have to take it.

01:26:38.080 They're,

01:26:38.560 they're,

01:26:38.580 they're men

01:26:39.800 in every way,

01:26:40.920 shape,

01:26:41.140 and form,

01:26:41.640 except for what's between their legs.

01:26:43.980 Maybe.

01:26:45.180 And

01:26:45.620 they've gone through male puberty.

01:26:47.400 And if,

01:26:48.060 if you get hurt,

01:26:48.920 if you get killed,

01:26:50.140 it's really not our problem.

01:26:52.160 It's your damn problem.

01:26:53.400 What we stand for is inclusion.

01:26:55.360 That's what the IOC has said.

01:26:57.240 This is so dangerous.

01:26:59.700 It's,

01:27:00.240 it's so dangerous

01:27:01.120 and it's so false.

01:27:02.060 And it really is.

01:27:02.840 You know,

01:27:03.420 I I've said for a long time,

01:27:05.320 men are always saying there's a war against men

01:27:07.580 or against masculinity.

01:27:08.740 We're being called toxic.

01:27:10.300 Everything we do is toxic.

01:27:11.660 But I really think that the war is against women.

01:27:14.420 I think the idea with men is that they're not supposed to be men

01:27:17.680 because then women can't compete with them.

01:27:19.800 But it's all about getting women out of the home.

01:27:22.080 It's all about getting women out of the position of being women,

01:27:26.020 of having the kind of natural feelings of women that are more generous than men,

01:27:29.680 that are actually more productive and creative than men.

01:27:32.580 It's all about eliminating this,

01:27:35.000 this half of the human race that actually goes against

01:27:39.800 the socialist ideal.

01:27:41.800 The socialist ideal from the very start,

01:27:43.840 the Karl Marx and Engels said this,

01:27:45.420 we've got to get women out of the home.

01:27:47.340 We've got to start getting rid of the family

01:27:49.520 because the family is a unit of governance

01:27:51.440 that actually supersedes the government above it.

01:27:54.800 And that it makes the government above it able to be less.

01:27:57.560 You have can have less government when you have more families.

01:28:00.480 You know,

01:28:00.600 what have they done?

01:28:01.300 They've destroyed the black family.

01:28:03.000 You know,

01:28:03.400 the great society just wiped the black family out.

01:28:06.400 They,

01:28:06.840 they mean it,

01:28:07.520 they mean it.

01:28:08.060 This is what they intend.

01:28:08.980 And in order to really get rid of the family,

01:28:10.820 it's women you have to undermine.

01:28:12.260 And all of this is part of it.

01:28:13.620 It's not,

01:28:14.220 it's not separate from the rest of it.

01:28:16.020 It really is not.

01:28:17.000 And this idea that women have to just tolerate having their heads handed to them

01:28:21.260 by male boxers is obscene.

01:28:23.720 And the answer to it,

01:28:24.800 by the way,

01:28:25.180 is organizing in women's sports.

01:28:27.160 Women have to stop,

01:28:28.020 start saying,

01:28:28.680 we will not show up on masks.

01:28:30.660 It's because one woman can't do it alone,

01:28:32.480 but all of them should just say,

01:28:34.320 we will not do this anymore.

01:28:35.580 You can't steal our trophies.

01:28:36.860 You can't beat us in races.

01:28:38.200 You can't punch us out.

01:28:39.380 It's just not going to happen.

01:28:40.740 We're all going to stand together.

01:28:41.900 That would be some sisterhood.

01:28:44.040 That would be some women's solidarity that would really have an effect on what's going on.

01:28:49.720 Because as it is now,

01:28:51.120 they're being intimidated.

01:28:52.080 They're being cowed.

01:28:53.540 You know,

01:28:53.980 they,

01:28:54.800 they just can't stand up for themselves alone.

01:28:57.460 I don't think anybody could,

01:28:58.980 but I think they have to stand up together and just shut this down.

01:29:02.080 Because once that happens,

01:29:03.340 once that happens,

01:29:04.120 then you're stuck.

01:29:04.820 They will not be able to triumph against the women athletes if they,

01:29:08.180 if they organize and stand together as one.

01:29:11.480 That's amazing.

01:29:12.500 We're,

01:29:12.880 we're letting our female prisoners get raped in eight by eight cells with serial male rapists.

01:29:19.720 We're letting our young girls be exposed to penises in their elementary,

01:29:24.260 middle school room bathrooms and locker rooms.

01:29:27.080 We're letting them in some cases get sexually assaulted by these people.

01:29:30.720 We're letting them get actually assaulted on the volleyball courts and the field hockey fields.

01:29:36.260 And now it's come to this combat sports.

01:29:38.580 We're watching men beat up women for fun and for gold medals.

01:29:42.420 That should be ours.

01:29:43.820 And we're being told by the media,

01:29:45.640 we must celebrate it or we're a disgrace.

01:29:50.320 It's wrong.

01:29:51.080 It's evil.

01:29:51.840 Andrew Cleven,

01:29:52.500 love talking to you.

01:29:53.640 Thank you so much for being here.

01:29:55.480 Always great to see you,

01:29:56.320 Megan.

01:29:56.440 Thanks for having me.

01:29:59.900 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show.

01:30:01.800 No BS,

01:30:02.900 no agenda,

01:30:03.620 and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - August 08, 2024

Walz's Military Service in Spotlight, Harris Ignores Press, and Males Go For Gold at Olympics, with Andrew Klavan ｜ Ep. 858

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