The Megyn Kelly Show - What Got CUT From CBS' Netanyahu Interview, Plus Spencer Pratt's Secret Ingredient, with Michael Knowles ｜ Ep. 1314

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00:02:22.300 Big developments in the battle of redistricting. I mean, finally, some good news for the Republicans

00:02:27.700 ahead of the midterms. Now we'll see, you know, like the margin of houses, of house seats that

00:02:34.840 they've been able to create for themselves now through redistricting. It's been incredible. I

00:02:39.940 mean, this has been the Democrats advantage for years. They're the ones who game the systems and

00:02:45.800 rejigger the elections and the maps to their favor. Republicans haven't even been really in

00:02:51.140 the game that much. And now they finally started to fight back and they were losing, you know,

00:02:56.080 thanks to California's maneuverings. And so, well, they're winning again. And it's, you know,

00:03:01.960 careful what you wish for because the Democrats are like, okay, it's on. Well, now that you said

00:03:07.180 The Republicans might have stopped at Texas had you not declared it a federal case, but now you did and you're losing.

00:03:17.420 Now, that doesn't mean that Republicans can heave a sigh of relief in advance of these midterms.

00:03:22.300 You know, in 2018, I think they lost the midterms by like, they lost 40 seats.

00:03:26.720 So let's not kid ourselves.

00:03:28.640 They've got work to do.

00:03:29.600 But things certainly got a lot better for them.

00:03:31.580 Got a lot better for them over the past week and a half, thanks to court rulings.

00:03:35.840 Plus, there are big developments with Spencer Pratt's surging campaign for mayor in L.A.

00:03:41.940 Could he actually win?

00:03:43.380 He's got all the momentum, despite a recent hit piece on him by CBS News.

00:03:49.500 Great job, CBS.

00:03:51.100 This is the new CBS, same as the old CBS.

00:03:54.480 And speaking of CBS, we begin today with the latest in the Iran war and President Trump

00:03:59.640 calling Iran's latest response to a U.S. proposal to end the war, quote, totally unacceptable.

00:04:04.440 What does this have to do with CBS? They had Netanyahu on last night. Get to that in a second.

00:04:09.600 Iran, in turn, hitting back by calling its counteroffer, quote, generous and responsible, according to the Wall Street Journal.

00:04:17.460 The end does not seem to be imminent at all.

00:04:21.060 So that made what the leader of America's partner in this war.

00:04:25.580 He seems to think he's an equal partner.

00:04:28.280 Not sure he's aware. He's got 10 million people in his country.

00:04:32.340 we've got 330 million in ours. Our interests are a lot greater and, frankly, more important.

00:04:37.900 Sorry, but they are. And we're running this thing. It's our military. It's our boots on

00:04:44.140 the ground, not yours, that has been doing the lion's share of all this. So, yeah, we're not

00:04:48.580 equal partners. But in any event, Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, went on 60 Minutes last

00:04:54.540 night, and this whole thing made that appearance all the more interesting. 60 aired a good chunk

00:04:59.880 of correspondent Major Garrett's interview

00:05:01.840 with the prime minister on TV last night.

00:05:04.220 The segment was about 12 minutes,

00:05:06.320 but CBS also released the full 70-minute sit-down online.

00:05:11.740 That's not out of the goodness of their hearts.

00:05:14.040 That's thanks to President Trump's lawsuit

00:05:16.280 back in 2024 when he alleged 60 minutes

00:05:20.000 made misleading edits to a Kamala Harris interview

00:05:22.740 in an effort to make her look good.

00:05:24.240 And when we saw the outtakes,

00:05:26.200 we found out that, of course, is absolutely true.

00:05:29.880 And we saw the tease that they posted.

00:05:35.140 Remember, they had posted different versions of the same answer.

00:05:39.440 One was, she was asked a question.

00:05:42.020 It was actually about, wasn't it about Netanyahu?

00:05:45.300 And they posted one piece of the answer on one show and another piece of the answer on another show.

00:05:49.100 And it became very clear to those of us out in the world that they'd been manipulating us, which they had been.

00:05:54.100 So now 60 Minutes posts many of its full interviews with newsmakers.

00:05:57.360 And they are sometimes quite illuminating, like in March when we showed you a misleading edit of Pete Hegseth's interview with Major Garrett, when the show suggested that Secretary Hegseth was responding to a question about Israel dragging the U.S. into the war.

00:06:12.560 And the extended interview showed the question didn't mention Israel at all.

00:06:17.360 There's manipulation going on over at CBS, especially around the topic of Israel.

00:06:23.560 Hmm, I wonder why.

00:06:24.560 Now, this time, there was no smoking gun showing journalistic malpractice in last night's Netanyahu interview, but there were some notable ways in which the edited piece differed from the actual full interview in substantive ways.

00:06:39.960 The interview began with Bibi saying the war is not over.

00:06:44.700 And here's an extended version that's slightly longer than what you might have seen if you watched 60 Minutes last night.

00:06:50.700 Is the war with Iran over, and if it isn't, who will decide when it is? 0.74

00:06:57.100 I think it accomplished a great deal, but it's not over because there's still nuclear material, enriched uranium, that has to be taken out of Iran. 0.67

00:07:05.780 There are still enrichment sites that have to be dismantled.

00:07:10.620 There are still proxies that Iran supports. 0.76

00:07:13.980 There are ballistic missiles that they still want to produce. 0.98

00:07:17.520 Now, we've degraded a lot of it, but all of that is still there, and there's work to be done. 0.83

00:07:23.720 How do you envision the highly enriched uranium will be removed from Iran?

00:07:28.480 You go in and you take it out.

00:07:31.020 With what? Special forces from Israel, special forces from the United States?

00:07:34.580 Well, I'm not going to talk about military means, but what President Trump has said to me,

00:07:39.300 I want to go in there. And I think it can be done physically. That's not the problem.

00:07:43.440 If you have an agreement and you go in and you take it out, why not?

00:07:48.360 That's the best way.

00:07:49.780 What if there isn't an agreement?

00:07:50.980 Can it be taken out by force?

00:07:53.040 Well, you're going to ask me these questions.

00:07:55.300 I'm going to dodge them because I'm not going to talk about our military possibilities, plans, or anything of the kind.

00:08:02.240 And I'm just trying to get at how long is it going to take to achieve that aim?

00:08:06.760 I'm not going to give a timetable to it, but I'm going to say that's a terrifically important mission.

00:08:13.440 I mean, OK, our president doesn't seem to have the appetite for this.

00:08:19.220 They're reporting today over the weekend.

00:08:21.760 They report in the Atlantic. He's bored. He's bored with this war.

00:08:24.140 That's the second report using that exact term that we've seen about the president.

00:08:27.480 He's really not that into it anymore.

00:08:29.960 But you can see this guy feels differently.

00:08:32.820 He's not going to talk about timing.

00:08:34.500 Lots of important missions yet to be done in Iran.

00:08:37.100 And here's his answer on the infamous meeting inside the White House Situation Room from February,

00:08:42.320 which the New York Times first broke the news of, where he reportedly persuaded President Trump to start this war.

00:08:48.600 Again, this clip we're going to show you here is a bit longer than what aired in the 60 Minutes broadcast last night.

00:08:54.860 New York Times on April 7th reported the following about a fateful meeting February 11th in the White House.

00:09:02.100 And the New York Times reports as follows, quote,

00:09:05.260 In the Situation Room on February 11th, Mr. Netanyahu made a hard sell, suggesting that Iran was ripe for regime change

00:09:13.060 and expressing the belief that a joint U.S.-Israeli mission could finally bring an end to the Islamic Republic. 1.00

00:09:21.700 Is that correct?

00:09:22.600 No, that's actually incorrect because...

00:09:25.020 In what ways is it incorrect?

00:09:26.220 It's incorrect in the sense that I said, oh, well, it's guaranteed. We can do it and so on.

00:09:30.280 I didn't say that.

00:09:32.320 We both understood that we have little time to act because otherwise they'd get nuclear

00:09:37.200 weapons.

00:09:38.200 We both understood that we have little time to act because otherwise they'll bury underground

00:09:43.240 their ballistic missile capabilities.

00:09:46.260 But while we were, we said that part of the action would be the removal of the leadership

00:09:51.380 and other measures, there was uncertainty.

00:09:55.460 And we said it.

00:09:56.460 All this, you know, is uncertain.

00:09:58.380 If you ever, you know, engage in military.

00:10:01.000 In the confines of that conversation, you noted the uncertainty.

00:10:05.040 Not only did I know that we both agreed, you know, that there was both uncertainty and risk involved.

00:10:13.060 OK, got it.

00:10:14.320 Now he wants to underscore that he was really clear with President Trump on the risk and uncertainty around his plan. 0.88

00:10:23.080 You know, his assurances that we could take out the Ayatollah and affect regime change. 0.97

00:10:28.380 Easy. Three, four days tops. Now he wants you all to know he was really clear on the risk and 0.95

00:10:34.960 uncertainty that he advised the president of. OK, so it's Trump's fault. That's really what he's

00:10:39.140 saying. He advised of the risk and Trump overruled him. Is that true? Or is he possibly overstating

00:10:45.240 the amount of caution that he laced his remarks in? And here's an important answer here. Netanyahu

00:10:52.460 on why America and Israel did not anticipate Iran doing the one thing that has changed this entire

00:10:59.860 conflict and indeed has changed Iran's standing in the war, in the world. Iran, it's now calling 0.75

00:11:08.240 itself a global superpower, and it's not the only one. I've seen very smart military analysts say,

00:11:12.900 unfortunately, that's become true, and that's the Strait of Hormuz. Why didn't we anticipate

00:11:19.440 Israel didn't anticipate it.

00:11:22.120 And the United States apparently didn't take it seriously.

00:11:24.880 The reports are that Trump didn't believe they could do it

00:11:27.580 and that Netanyahu had told him it wasn't realistic.

00:11:31.640 But they've done it.

00:11:33.100 They've done it.

00:11:33.820 And it's the thing that is holding everything up.

00:11:36.000 It's holding up the closure of this war,

00:11:38.100 the progress of talks around this war.

00:11:39.880 We've given them a new tool, even more powerful than a nuke. 0.94

00:11:44.680 That's what this war has done to Iran. 0.95

00:11:47.240 And if you don't think that's empowering, you haven't been paying attention. 0.78

00:11:51.560 And unfortunately, it's incredibly empowering for Iran. 0.91

00:11:55.560 Right now, they hold a lot of cards and they're going to hold them forever unless we have a permanent military presence in the Strait of Hormuz, which we police from now to the end of time. 0.99

00:12:07.260 I don't think we're prepared to do that.

00:12:08.640 You know how much money that's going to be?

00:12:09.760 okay so why why didn't we or they apparently anticipate that they could and would take

00:12:19.780 control of the strait here's the answer most most of this again did not air on tv watch

00:12:24.820 no i don't claim a perfect foresight and nobody had perfect foresight

00:12:29.040 neither did the iranians they should have figured out that that's what's coming

00:12:32.320 did you say that most of these risks would be minimal i don't remember using that language

00:12:38.100 And I would that be a fair interpretation. No, I would say I would say that the overall conception was that this would elicit a problem or response that they probably would not shoulder.

00:12:49.140 But they did shoulder. And now they respond. They're attacking. They're being attacked accordingly.

00:12:54.720 Yeah. Yes, it's a problem. Yeah. We're aware. So there are at least some telegraph of the truth.

00:13:01.580 They didn't anticipate it. They didn't think that they could shoulder it. Well, they could.

00:13:05.860 And honestly, did he really not know? Did Netanyahu and Israel not anticipate that? I just,

00:13:14.080 I have that a very hard time believing that. I mean, like their, their intelligence is second

00:13:21.560 to none. They knew the Ayatollah was going to be above ground on a certain day with his top

00:13:27.620 emissaries. Their intelligence was really good on the Ayatollah's whereabouts and his plans and

00:13:32.980 was spot on. But they didn't anticipate that they could effectively take control of the 0.62

00:13:38.440 Strait of Hormuz? Or did they just not care? Because their goal is chaos in the Middle

00:13:44.140 East, which benefits them. And our goal is very, very different. Our goal is not chaos 1.00

00:13:48.920 in the Middle East. We have a lot of friends and partners and allies there with whom we

00:13:52.140 do great business and whose relations with us have only been getting stronger. And that's

00:13:55.700 a good thing for the United States. Is it really great for us to have chaos in the Middle 1.00

00:13:59.220 East? Is it great for us to have, by the way, Iran bombing our allies over there, which is what 1.00

00:14:05.440 they've been doing? That's another thing that was just very, very interesting piece in the Atlantic 0.66

00:14:10.240 by a big time neocon hawk, a guy who was behind the Iraq war, the surge in Iraq, and push for,

00:14:18.120 you know, all sorts of conflicts, writing some tough talk about how the war in Iran is going,

00:14:23.200 saying, basically, we've lost, and it's worse than our loss in Vietnam. It's worse than anything

00:14:31.000 than Afghanistan. It's worse than Iraq. It's very, very bad, because we've empowered Iran 1.00

00:14:37.620 in a way that we didn't anticipate. And Robert Kagan is the name of the guy. 0.84

00:14:44.600 And yeah, talking about how Iran has now become empowered as a result of its control of the 0.82

00:14:51.100 Strait of Hormuz. And one of the ways in which we've been compromised is in fighting back. Not 0.83

00:14:57.480 only did it take the Strait, it started bombing all of its allies in the neighborhood, our allies

00:15:01.460 in the neighborhood. And that the reason Trump entered into a ceasefire was not a desire for

00:15:08.300 a ceasefire so much as it was the fact that Iran had bombed the energy infrastructure in Qatar.

00:15:18.240 and that if anything like that continued,

00:15:22.840 we were going to be setting the energy markets back

00:15:25.000 by years, decades, and it needed to stop ASAP.

00:15:31.080 They actually pulled another trick out of their hat

00:15:33.100 that materially changed the course of the war.

00:15:37.000 It wasn't just a, oh, we're going to be nice.

00:15:39.800 All right, so there's been a lot happening.

00:15:41.040 This has been a very savvy, you know,

00:15:44.160 tough effort that we're fighting over there.

00:15:46.280 It's not a compliment. It's just a reality. And something the skeptics about the war had advised

00:15:53.240 President Trump about. OK, so now here's Netanyahu claiming he was one of them. OK,

00:16:00.420 sure you were. Sure. And here's another thing that did not air at all on last night's broadcast.

00:16:06.780 And that's Netanyahu discussing how long this war might last.

00:16:10.580 We had our brave pilots and your brave pilots over the skies of Tehran, over the skies of Iran.

00:16:18.760 That changed. That broke that mask of invincibility.

00:16:23.220 And once that happens, once that happens, that regime, I think their days are numbered.

00:16:30.020 But it could take a lot of days. I grant you that.

00:16:33.040 And if you say, how long would it take this war?

00:16:35.840 I think a lot has been accomplished in a very short time.

00:16:41.900 It's not going to take years.

00:16:44.200 It may not take months.

00:16:45.840 It better not take months?

00:16:47.580 It may not take months.

00:16:49.000 It depends.

00:16:50.120 It depends a lot.

00:16:51.280 I don't want to put a schedule on it.

00:16:53.520 I think there's a mission schedule.

00:16:55.160 There are goals to be achieved.

00:16:57.400 But so far, I think an enormous amount has been done in a very short time.

00:17:01.360 so are we going to be perpetually months away from enduring the from ending the war remember

00:17:12.380 president trump said it was going to be four weeks now we get from netanyahu months and won't

00:17:18.960 won't get more specific are we going to be perpetually months away from ending this thing

00:17:23.080 just like iran was perpetually weeks away from obtaining a nuclear weapon in the years before

00:17:28.460 Operation Epic Fury. That's what we've dubbed this war. I mean, truly, Netanyahu's been saying

00:17:34.160 that they're weeks away for years now, weeks and months at most. This is sounding like the Iraq 0.64

00:17:42.900 war clips that we brought to you when this war began in March. Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld saying

00:17:50.860 it was just going to be weeks or months at the outset. Eight years later, that war finally

00:17:56.840 ended. Not to mention ground troops, more ground troops, the surge. That was Iraq.

00:18:05.740 Several sections of the interview focused on how support for Israel is on the decline here in

00:18:09.940 America, especially among young people, Democrat and Republican and independent, and what the cause

00:18:15.880 of that is. Now, here's an excerpt. This is from the full interview where we removed a lengthy

00:18:20.960 aside from Netanyahu, about Israel not targeting civilians. This is a point that they make very

00:18:27.860 often, that Israel says they never targeted civilians. And they do indeed drop, for example,

00:18:33.440 pamphlets on sites they're about to bomb telling them that they're about to bomb them. And it's

00:18:39.440 also true that the Palestinians, the Hamas, will hide in a place like a hospital, you know, 0.75

00:18:45.900 to make it tougher for Israel. That's all true, and we know that about Israel. But it's also true 0.96

00:18:50.040 that Israel has killed civilians, thousands of them in Gaza. And it's happening again now

00:18:57.540 in Lebanon. We've watched journalists get blown up and they don't seem particularly apologetic

00:19:04.320 about it. I got to tell you, they're kind of like, oh, well, we've got tens of thousands dead

00:19:10.560 in Gaza, tens of thousands. And they are not all Hamas fighters. There are thousands and

00:19:16.440 thousands of civilians. So that was an aside, but it's a separate debate. Okay. We want to

00:19:20.360 talk here, show you here the discussion about social media and his concerns, because let me

00:19:28.200 tell you, Bibi thinks that's the reason Americans are turning on his country.

00:19:33.400 This idea that a younger generation are on social media or scrolling, do you believe Israel is at

00:19:38.840 risk of losing this war on that social media front? Meaning what is being portrayed, what is

00:19:45.280 being said, and this is particularly, I believe, important in America for younger Americans,

00:19:51.940 Republican and Democrat, who have hardened themselves against Israel, scrolling through

00:19:58.760 images which tell them that there is something not as you describe, but uncivilized, and

00:20:07.180 they would use words like barbaric in Gaza and in Lebanon.

00:20:12.020 We have seen the deterioration of support for Israel in the United States, I would say

00:20:20.620 correlates almost 100% with the geometric rise of social media.

00:20:27.360 And that by itself is not what caused it.

00:20:29.420 And I don't believe in censoring them or anything, but I'll tell you what happened.

00:20:34.920 We have several countries that basically manipulated social media with bot farms, with fake addresses

00:20:43.800 to break the American sympathy to Israel, to break the American-Israeli alliance because

00:20:50.040 they think it's in their interests. 0.65

00:20:52.800 And they do it in a clever way.

00:20:54.120 You know, it's like you hear a text message, I'm a red-blooded Texan, I always supported 0.99

00:20:59.600 Israel, but I can't stand what they're doing, I'm turning against Israel. 0.98

00:21:03.420 then you trace the address to some basement in Pakistan, you know, and that's that's something 0.97

00:21:09.100 that has hurt us badly. So that whole thing about bot farms did not air. OK, the version that aired

00:21:16.940 on TV included some of what we just played, but it was combined with a section from the very end

00:21:22.500 of the interview, which focused on Israel's tactics to respond to the sentiment shift,

00:21:28.640 not the shift itself. All right. They let him get away with it's it's all social media. It's,

00:21:36.480 you know, it's not Israel's behavior. It has nothing to do with those tens of thousands dead

00:21:43.160 in Gaza or Gaza looking like a parking lot now or the the thirst, what appears to be a thirst 0.55

00:21:51.400 for more war by Israel on this front and that front. It's not like let's do it all. Who could 0.85

00:21:57.160 forget when then the focus shifted to Hezbollah after Hamas. And then it was, we're going to get 0.75

00:22:02.400 the Houthis. And then it was, they talked us into bombing the Iranian nuclear sites. And now we're 0.76

00:22:06.120 back from war in Iran. And not to mention Syria, like they've been behind a lot. It's not that

00:22:13.260 though. It's none of that. It's just social media. That's what's caused the shift. So they're not

00:22:20.520 interested at CBS in talking about that, right? Because they included a little about how Israel's

00:22:27.440 responding to the sentiment shift, like the evil podcasters or social media trolls who are

00:22:33.840 causing it. And they don't want to discuss the actual shift itself and whether it has to do with

00:22:39.700 Israel's behavior at all. Again, why is that? Why does CBS not want to discuss that?

00:22:44.740 Could it be the Ellisons and their hand-placed handmaiden, Barry Weiss, who runs CBS now, who's huge on Israel?

00:22:56.120 It's truly her favorite issue. 0.57

00:22:58.480 I mean, that is true.

00:23:00.400 She's extremely concerned about Israel and has been for a long, long time.

00:23:05.440 You know, Glenn Greenwald was telling us about what she did to that professor at Columbia, who she thought was too anti-Israel.

00:23:11.120 like she's been on a cancellation crusade for a long time against anybody who she thinks is too

00:23:15.800 critical of Israel. And, uh, now she's in charge of CBS. And honestly, you can see it in the

00:23:21.500 coverage. You can see it. So Netanyahu, uh, in a rather chilling moment, actually reached over

00:23:30.860 and picked up major Garrett's iPhone in order to make his point. Okay. About social media.

00:23:39.040 Now, what's interesting about this exchange, I'm going to show it to you, this is the final exchange in the 70-minute sit-down, okay?

00:23:46.980 But this is purportedly Netanyahu trying to tell us what's being done to Israel by propagandists out there.

00:23:55.900 And I would submit to the jury that it is very much true of what Israel is doing to its critics now, too.

00:24:04.060 Watch. 0.72

00:24:04.340 again you can say anything because it's this this is yours right you're not immune either

00:24:11.380 because you can penetrate this machine you can penetrate this this little instrument

00:24:20.100 and you can say about major garrett anything you want and i can paint you as a monster

00:24:27.680 And if I say it often enough, enough people will believe it.

00:24:33.400 I am not bemoaning this.

00:24:35.940 I'm stating this as a fact.

00:24:38.080 Israel was besieged on the media front, on the propaganda front, and we've not done well

00:24:43.800 on the propaganda war.

00:24:45.480 We have to fight back against these lies, this propaganda, with the only weapon we have.

00:24:50.740 It's the truth.

00:24:51.720 i'm trying to do that now and we'll try to do that in a much greater effort

00:24:58.340 wow i mean that's pretty chilling picked up major's phone and said to a journalist

00:25:08.500 you are not immune if i want to i can paint you as a monster he says i can paint you as a monster

00:25:15.360 and people will believe it. Oh, we know. Trust me. We're aware. 0.89

00:25:23.940 That, I mean, what's interesting is there was no follow-up about what Israel actually is doing,

00:25:32.680 what it actually is doing here in America, which I'll get to in one second, but they are.

00:25:37.540 It's interesting to me because I talked to Charlie Kirk about this. You know, he and I

00:25:41.080 were on the same trajectory on Israel, very, very ardently pro. And Charlie was in a different

00:25:47.560 situation than I was because he had a lot of Israeli donors and very prominent Jewish donors

00:25:52.240 to Turning Point. And so kind of felt financially beholden to folks who shared that view and may

00:26:00.120 have given him money because he shared it. I thank God don't have that problem. Nobody owns me.

00:26:07.020 I take, the only people I take money from, you know about Cozy Earth, love them.

00:26:11.960 Like, all my advertisers, that's the only one that they pay money to get their ads on this show, and that's it.

00:26:19.480 Obviously, SiriusXM pays me to license the broadcast, but no special interests like this, okay?

00:26:25.660 And I've been offered money.

00:26:26.840 I have been offered money by very pro-Israeli.

00:26:29.280 And when I was very pro-Israeli, you know, two years ago, and I always said no, because I just, I understood that it could compromise me as a journalist.

00:26:39.780 I didn't want that to happen.

00:26:40.800 I didn't, I don't like anybody having me by a leash.

00:26:44.000 But in any event, Charlie and I talked openly about how Israel was very bad at the propaganda war, about how the Palestinians were so much better at propaganda than Israel. 0.78

00:26:55.380 And the thing that he and I discussed Israel needed to do, excuse me, was to get its own Caroline Levitt to be out there every day. 0.79

00:27:07.080 And Charlie said, for example, why should I be out there doing this?

00:27:11.640 Why should it be me and you, Megan?

00:27:13.760 Excuse me.

00:27:14.500 I need some water.

00:27:18.280 Why should it be us?

00:27:19.480 Why don't they have their own Caroline Levitt or Admiral Kirby, who's out there setting the record straight?

00:27:26.360 Well, they went a different way.

00:27:28.340 They joined the likes of the propagandists and those engaged in the business of personal destruction of their critics.

00:27:37.580 So we'll talk about that in a second.

00:27:38.860 OK, but back to the broadcast last night, these two moments from the last two soundbites, they were shortened.

00:27:44.540 They were combined as if they happened back to back.

00:27:47.040 you know, it, the, the, with the phone. Now they didn't include the comment about how Israel will

00:27:52.260 be fighting back. They teased that they will use the same tactics to fight fire with fire

00:27:57.400 on the social media front. Well, they're doing it. Okay. They're doing that. BB said it several

00:28:03.260 times throughout the full interview, but none of that made the broadcast version. So why didn't

00:28:07.160 that go in there? Why? There were also several references by Netanyahu, uh, to the Americans

00:28:13.980 turning against Israel, saying that they also hate America. Oh, they do? Okay. So according

00:28:21.580 to Netanyahu, if you are against Israel and its tactics militarily, you hate your own country

00:28:28.960 here in America. You hate America. This is a talking point we've seen from the prominent 0.55

00:28:32.920 pro-Israel media voices in the past few weeks. It seems to be like a new favorite. All of those

00:28:37.920 references were cut from the broadcast version of the interview. Why? Why did Barry Weiss and

00:28:44.800 her CBS cut from the interview of Netanyahu all the references by Netanyahu attacking Americans

00:28:51.900 who have questions about Israel as anti-American? Is it possible they believed that might make him

00:28:59.800 look bad and further alienate Americans. I mean, I think there's a level of protection

00:29:09.020 being run now on a foreign leader that's just obvious. It's as plain as the nose on your face.

00:29:16.420 And you have to ask yourself why and whether we're allowing this. Because let me tell you,

00:29:20.920 if I had Netanyahu sitting here and he made those claims, I would absolutely follow up

00:29:25.600 with questions, for example, about his own explicit statements last August or September

00:29:33.060 saying Israel was going to get in this game. And then Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL that was

00:29:39.400 formed allegedly here to fight anti-Semitism. And he addressed the Knesset right around that

00:29:44.860 same time frame and made really clear what he expected next in this information war.

00:29:52.000 Here's what he said. 0.86

00:29:53.720 But we need the kind of genius that manufactured Apollo gold pagers and infiltrated Hezbollah 0.94

00:29:59.040 for over a decade to prepare for this battle. 0.93

00:30:02.240 We need the kind of courage that executed Operation Deep Layer inside Syria and destroyed 0.68

00:30:07.720 Iranian missile manufacturing capabilities to undertake this mission.

00:30:11.900 This is the kind of ingenuity and inventiveness that have always been a hallmark of the state

00:30:16.340 of Israel, that have always been a characteristic of the Jewish people.

00:30:19.980 I know we can do it.

00:30:22.000 Okay. You know that we can do it. Okay. Well, how about Netanyahu? What specifically

00:30:29.640 has he said? Listen to this one.

00:30:32.240 We're going to have to use the tools of battle. You know, the weapons change over time.

00:30:37.820 You can't fight today with swords. That doesn't work very well, okay? And you can't fight with

00:30:43.080 cavalry. That doesn't work very well. And you have these new things, you know, like drones,

00:30:48.420 things like that, I won't get into that

00:30:50.020 but we have to fight with the weapons

00:30:51.780 that apply to the battlefields

00:30:54.900 in which we're engaged

00:30:55.760 and the most important ones are the social media

00:30:58.280 and the most important purchase

00:31:00.660 that is going on right now is

00:31:02.220 class

00:31:04.060 followers

00:31:04.460 TikTok

00:31:07.580 TikTok, number one

00:31:10.080 number one, and I hope it goes through

00:31:12.240 because it can be consequential

00:31:14.720 and the other one

00:31:16.040 what's the other one that's most important

00:31:18.400 X.

00:31:19.460 X.

00:31:21.120 Successful.

00:31:21.580 Very good.

00:31:22.900 And, you know, so we have to talk to Elon.

00:31:25.420 He's not an enemy.

00:31:26.820 He's a friend.

00:31:27.980 We should talk to him.

00:31:30.240 Hmm.

00:31:31.240 Great.

00:31:32.300 So there it is.

00:31:33.260 He's been very explicit about what he's about to do.

00:31:35.380 And then we know about at least some of it.

00:31:38.480 Okay? 0.81

00:31:38.680 We know that Israel, thanks to an effort called Project Esther,

00:31:44.560 paid a bunch of social media influencers approximately $7,000 per post pro-Israel

00:31:53.120 or against its attackers in an effort to, quote, fight anti-Semitism. I've said this before.

00:31:58.600 I've gotten attacked by many on social media as making things up. Sorry if you weren't smart

00:32:03.400 enough to get paid for your tweets, folks, but it's true. It's absolutely true. It was first

00:32:10.200 broken by Responsible Statecraft, which is an online magazine of the Quincy Institute.

00:32:17.240 They advocate restraint in foreign policy, and they documented the fact in September

00:32:23.220 that Israel was paying influencers $7,000 per post. They write, in a meeting dedicated to

00:32:30.760 harnessing pro-Israeli media energy on Friday, the Prime Minister Netanyahu alluded to a cohort

00:32:35.960 of Israel's influencers. 0.52

00:32:38.380 We do have to fight back. 0.72

00:32:39.460 How do we fight back?

00:32:40.700 Our influencers.

00:32:41.900 I think you should also talk to them

00:32:43.420 if you have a chance, to that community.

00:32:45.120 They're very important. 0.61

00:32:46.520 Being paid by Israel to post on social media

00:32:48.340 is also very lucrative, they write.

00:32:50.280 According to previously unreported recent documents,

00:32:53.560 these influencers are likely being paid

00:32:55.600 around $7,000 per post on social media,

00:32:58.600 such as TikTok, Instagram, et cetera,

00:33:00.560 on behalf of Israel.

00:33:02.280 Bridges Partners, a firm working

00:33:04.020 for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, sent a series of invoices for its influencer campaign

00:33:11.920 to Havas Media Group Germany, an international media group working for Israel. Very interesting.

00:33:21.700 A group in Germany working for Israel, Germany. I may be coming back to that in days to come,

00:33:27.960 and I'll explain why then. The invoices detail a sum of $900,000 starting in June and slated

00:33:35.300 to end in November for a cohort of 14 to 18 influencers to create content. They had to

00:33:41.960 disclose this because this group had to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act,

00:33:47.820 and they noted in it that the funding is for payments for influencers and production.

00:33:54.220 So we don't know exactly what the number was or exactly who the influencers were or even

00:34:00.480 whether this is the only such program, but it is absolutely true that Israel was paying

00:34:06.280 thousands of dollars per post to several influencers to attack those perceived as

00:34:12.940 dangers to Israel or enemies of the Israeli state or Netanyahu and to promote stories

00:34:20.980 about Israel that reflected well on it. It was called Project Esther. In addition, by the way,

00:34:25.740 this same publication, Responsible Statecraft, broke the news, which is also true that Brad

00:34:32.300 Parscale, who is senior executive at Salem Media and has his own AI company, had to register as a

00:34:42.180 foreign agent for Israel. Same situation. This is from The Hill, September 30th, 2025. Does that

00:34:51.640 date sound familiar? It's all happening. It was the Unleashed last September. Pascal, this is

00:34:56.680 according to The Hill, the Pascal has registered as a foreign agent for Israel, hired to create

00:35:00.940 digital campaigns combating anti-Semitism in a contract worth $6 million. By the way, I've also

00:35:08.720 it's nine, nine million. According to his contract, his company is hired to create content

00:35:14.140 where at least 80% is tailored to Gen Z audiences across platforms, including TikTok, Instagram,

00:35:20.440 YouTube podcasts, and other relevant digital and broadcast outlets. Axios also reporting that

00:35:27.580 Parscale, a top eight on President Trump's first two campaigns, registered as a foreign agent

00:35:31.320 to work on Israel's behalf and create digital media combating anti-Semitism.

00:35:37.480 Now, I know Pascal personally, and I have had long discussions with him about what his AI can do.

00:35:46.680 And let me tell you, it's substantial.

00:35:49.260 This is before he decided to become a foreign agent for Israel.

00:35:53.060 And when he thought that I was completely in Israel's corner and not Israel skeptical,

00:35:57.940 And I was. I used to be. Honestly, it's like they have their own bad behavior to thank for losing me. And Netanyahu's paranoia about like, oh, social media, they get on there and like people from, you know, some third world country are on there saying, I live in Texas and I've turned on Israel and it's all BS propaganda. That's Israel's claim.

00:36:20.160 That's not at all what changed my views.

00:36:24.620 Not at all.

00:36:25.860 It was, I literally made a speculative comment

00:36:29.080 about whether Epstein might've been an asset

00:36:31.900 for Israeli intelligence

00:36:33.200 and immediately got called an anti-Semite,

00:36:35.900 as did Charlie Kirk.

00:36:37.360 He and I were part of the conversation.

00:36:39.280 That's what led in part to our conversation

00:36:41.680 one month before he was murdered

00:36:44.080 about how annoyed we were

00:36:46.740 at how quickly the pressure campaign began on us both

00:36:50.540 and the name-calling using that term

00:36:52.800 simply in response to speculation about Epstein.

00:36:56.700 It was crazy.

00:36:59.180 Charlie was angry about what was being done to him,

00:37:02.720 and I was too.

00:37:04.700 And I firmly believe he would have been

00:37:06.620 on the same trajectory I have been on

00:37:08.360 because the name-calling against me only got worse.

00:37:11.720 The demands of me only got worse.

00:37:14.140 Sometimes proxies were put in.

00:37:15.700 You have to say this.

00:37:16.740 Or you're an anti-Semite. 0.88

00:37:17.780 Or you have to say that, Ernie, you're an anti-Semite.

00:37:20.480 I've refused all along, as I know Charlie would have, because he was a free speech advocate, very much so,

00:37:27.520 and would never have bent the knee to these bullies, whether it's BLM or the ADL.

00:37:33.460 And on and on it went.

00:37:35.480 It's gotten worse and worse and worse. 1.00

00:37:37.320 And then Israel got us into yet another damn war. 1.00

00:37:41.240 Yet another damn war. 0.98

00:37:42.680 So people in the United States who are having some negative feelings toward not the Israeli people who we love and have a lot in common with, but their government have every reason to feel that way. 1.00

00:37:58.580 And it's not because of fucking tick tock. 0.98

00:38:00.580 okay? Like, honestly, I want to read this guy, the poem that Dr. Ben Carson loves, 0.98

00:38:09.260 right? By Mamie Waite about yourself to blame. Is it Mamie Waite Brown? I'm trying to remember

00:38:14.200 her exact last name. It's amazing. I've read it on the air before that basically every refrain

00:38:20.140 ends with, you have yourself to blame. Look inward. That's what the Miller is the last name.

00:38:26.920 Um, look inward. Those words are actually in the poem. Look inward. I, it's crazy to me that he's

00:38:35.020 spending time lamenting how it's really totally social media. I think what's happened here is

00:38:41.260 Israel's behaved badly in a number of ways, extremely confrontationally and in a way that's

00:38:49.000 actually gotten us into a war now. And that's what's led people that plus what they did in Gaza. 0.81

00:38:54.140 And honestly, he's worried about like the social media campaign about Gaza.

00:38:57.480 That's another thing that didn't work on me, sir.

00:39:00.120 It wasn't any social media campaign about Gaza.

00:39:03.260 I tried to defend you on Gaza as long as humanly possible.

00:39:06.100 But you just the thirst for bloodlust over there was a little too much. 0.91

00:39:10.640 It went on for years every day where that were all the dead children propaganda by Palestine. 0.92

00:39:17.680 I don't think so. 0.71

00:39:19.340 Then you started it again in Lebanon. 0.97

00:39:21.000 that wasn't tiktok that made me believe that i don't even fucking have tiktok okay

00:39:26.680 it's not even on my phone and x is heavily dominated by the pro-israel crowd x is not 0.53

00:39:33.200 an anti-israel forum at all so what are you talking about my personal instagram has basically

00:39:40.180 videos of that lazy that lady who does all the stuff on the 80s and what it's like to be a gen

00:39:45.800 Xer, fashion tips, and other great lifestyle and Maha type content. I don't use Instagram for 0.97

00:39:53.740 politics. I don't follow many political people on there. I don't even follow many news people on

00:39:59.160 there. So I didn't get any of my viewpoints from these social media platforms you're so worried

00:40:03.780 about. Okay. I got them from news sources and from your obvious attacks on yours truly on my

00:40:12.460 dear friend Charlie Kirk and on some other friends of mine. So this campaign remains ongoing. And I

00:40:20.220 will say this just while I have you. I am so grateful to all of you for continuing to tune

00:40:26.380 into the show and not allowing this attempted destruction to occur. I love reading the comments

00:40:33.760 and the emails from all of you who say you see what they're doing. I knew that. I mean, you're

00:40:37.940 too savvy not to, but yeah, it's, it's a lot. And to hear him play the victim is pretty galling.

00:40:44.800 Okay. Sure, sir. Sure. You're many things. The victim's not one of them. All right. Coming up

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00:42:35.100 Joining me now, Michael Knowles. He is the host of The Daily Wire, the Michael Knowles show.

00:42:40.440 Michael, great to see you again. We started by talking about Netanyahu's interview on 60,

00:42:46.040 but President Trump has just given an interview weighing in on the Iran war. In particular,

00:42:52.640 Iran has now issued its response to our demands to end this thing.

00:42:57.360 The president says he's not happy.

00:42:59.520 Here's what he what he said.

00:43:01.140 Watch.

00:43:01.860 For the time being, the ceasefire remains in place.

00:43:04.700 It's unbelievably weak.

00:43:07.920 I would say I would call it the weakest right now. 0.99

00:43:12.120 After reading that piece of garbage they sent us, I didn't even finish reading it. 0.97

00:43:16.620 I said I'm going to waste my time reading it. 0.99

00:43:19.140 I would say it's one of the weakest right now.

00:43:22.000 It's on life support.

00:43:23.280 They understand.

00:43:23.920 These are all medical people.

00:43:26.280 Dr. Oz, life support is not a good thing.

00:43:28.620 Do you agree?

00:43:29.220 I would say the ceasefire is on massive life support, where the doctor walks in and says,

00:43:37.200 sir, your loved one has approximately a 1% chance of living.

00:43:44.880 That kind of brings it home.

00:43:46.700 Just for those listening at home, apparently the response, this is per the Wall Street Journal, hasn't been made public yet, but it doesn't speak to our demand for commitments on the fate of Iran's nuclear program or its stockpile of highly enriched uranium.

00:44:07.000 Instead, reports the journal, Iran proposes an end to the fighting and a gradual opening of the Strait of Hormuz.

00:44:14.080 then they punch the nuclear issues to getting negotiated over the next 30 days.

00:44:20.500 And they do offer some sort of a proposal on the highly enriched uranium and having it diluted

00:44:27.480 and possibly transferred, but apparently not to satisfy Trump or really feel that

00:44:32.980 our proposal was directly addressed. You know, the problem we have now is that more and more,

00:44:40.780 This is Bloomberg reporting this, too, that the president's not that interested in the war anymore.

00:44:47.200 He wants it to go away, but we can't really make it go away without reopening that strait.

00:44:52.060 That's that's for damn sure, which was it was reopened before it was opened before we launched this war.

00:44:58.280 But whatever that may be, Michael, we can't end it without that thing coming back open. 0.96

00:45:03.020 And the Iranians know they have a pretty powerful card. 0.98

00:45:05.920 Yeah, I love President Trump's vivid language, typically graphic. He's describing the life 0.59

00:45:12.660 support of the ceasefire. But then what does that mean? For the ceasefire to disappear either means

00:45:17.360 you're going to have a negotiated end to the war, actually put an end to hostilities,

00:45:21.200 or you're going to have an escalation again. And unfortunately, this is an area where I,

00:45:26.980 you know how much I hate to say I told you so on any number of political issues, but

00:45:30.240 this was always my fear before the Iran war. And while it was being launched, you had a lot of 1.00

00:45:36.640 people celebrating, waiting for, I don't know, freedom parades in Iran and a pro-Western return

00:45:43.520 of the Shah or something like that. I never really thought that was going to happen. And really what

00:45:48.160 I assumed was at the end, you'd either end up with a deal you don't want or a massive military

00:45:54.100 operation that would be politically unsellable at home. So there were really no good options.

00:45:59.440 I know some people make the claim that war in Iran would be unjust, that the regime doesn't

00:46:05.040 deserve it or something like that. I never thought that. We've been in hostilities with Iran for 50

00:46:09.420 years. But the problem is in order to establish a just war, you need to have a reasonable probability 0.96

00:46:15.400 of success, which means you have to know exactly what your objective is. Is the objective just to

00:46:19.920 get rid of the nuclear program? Is it to set back the nuclear program? Is it regime change as many

00:46:24.580 people wanted from the beginning? So you need a reasonable probability of success, which I don't

00:46:28.640 think we're really going to have, at least on the regime change front. Don't forget the mullahs, 1.00

00:46:32.240 for all their wickedness and sins, lasted twice as long in power as the CIA regime that we helped 0.97

00:46:37.940 to promote in 1953 with the CIA coup that helped get rid of Mossadegh and ensconce the Shah. So I 0.76

00:46:43.920 thought the mullahs are a lot tougher than people give them credit for. And then the other thing 1.00

00:46:47.480 that you need is proportionality, that the goods to be achieved are going to outweigh the losses

00:46:52.760 incurred. And there too, it's just, it's a real country. These guys are really tough. They're a

00:46:58.380 very evil regime. So they're willing to, to use all the sorts of tricks at their disposal. And

00:47:03.680 on the, on the American front, people have PTSD from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. So they don't

00:47:10.180 want a protracted military engagement. They don't want a ton of boots on the ground. So it's, it's

00:47:14.400 a brutal kind of quagmire. The one thing I would say for president Trump's position here, trying

00:47:19.200 to negotiate a way out of this thing is that many of our toughest presidents, not just many

00:47:25.400 American presidents, but even some of our toughest presidents on matters of war and peace actually

00:47:31.380 took the more dovish side. So you think of Ronald Reagan famously, and this one involves Iran after

00:47:36.600 the Beirut barracks bombings. Reagan did not directly retaliate. He actually pulled the troops

00:47:41.020 out of Lebanon. You think of Truman being reserved on war with China. You think of Eisenhower and

00:47:47.400 Kennedy being more reserved on war with Vietnam. So I don't think that Trump is in an impossible

00:47:53.560 situation here. He's in a brutal situation. He's in a very difficult situation. There's no real

00:47:58.460 win available to him. So to your point, Megan, the reporting that says he's kind of sick of the

00:48:02.600 war in Iran. Yeah, I get it. That's a big threat to the Republicans right now, even as we've got 0.76

00:48:07.760 a lot of structural wins thanks to the courts, thanks to redistricting. So any way to wind this

00:48:13.600 thing down, I think is probably the right thing to do, because the probability of ousting that

00:48:19.620 regime under current political conditions, I think, is basically zero. Yeah, I totally agree

00:48:26.120 with all that. Like, let's just get out. It's not going to be graceful. It's not going to look so

00:48:30.340 great. President Trump's a great salesman. He can probably sell it as a win no matter what.

00:48:37.560 Whether it is or it isn't, honestly, almost doesn't even matter at this point. It's like

00:48:41.600 we have our own problems to worry about, including now political ones for the GOP

00:48:45.440 that definitely need care and feeding. So let's let's just go whatever. I know that they control

00:48:50.900 the strait. It's very complicated. But like New York Times reported last Monday that these

00:48:56.940 Revolutionary Guard guys actually are somewhat mercenary, like money may speak to them. It may

00:49:03.000 not just be this theocratic, you know, Allah type motivated action. And so if that's true,

00:49:09.660 President Trump talks money.

00:49:11.180 He knows how to deal with people who like money.

00:49:13.400 And maybe we can set up some deal.

00:49:14.960 Like, we don't really get our oil out of the strait.

00:49:17.260 I realize the whole global economy is dependent,

00:49:19.040 but like, maybe we can set up some deal

00:49:20.320 where they do get some money out of the strait

00:49:23.040 because now they've discovered that tool

00:49:25.140 and we get out of there.

00:49:27.120 Like, I don't see any other way

00:49:29.360 other than giving them something

00:49:30.800 to make them want to reopen the Strait of Hormuz,

00:49:34.720 which is what we really want at this point.

00:49:36.000 Right now, you've done a lot of damage.

00:49:37.200 That's great.

00:49:37.780 You have these three options,

00:49:39.160 which is either you just take a bad deal or you invade Iran, which nobody really wants to do,

00:49:46.580 or you could just keep the status quo, which is what the president has been doing,

00:49:50.920 though he's signaling that's probably coming to an end, which is Iran launches its blockade

00:49:55.280 to hold hostage 20% of the world's oil and natural gas and fertilizer and petrochemicals

00:50:01.120 and all this other stuff. So you're basically holding the global economy hostage. And then

00:50:05.800 Trump does the reverse UNO car double blockade where he says, okay, well, we're going to starve

00:50:10.120 you and we're going to stop you from exporting your oil. And then it just becomes this game of

00:50:13.960 chicken. What's going to happen first, a global recession or the Iranian oil pipes bursting?

00:50:19.100 And that's a very, very dangerous game, especially in a midterm year.

00:50:23.800 Exactly right. Because they're going to start, they'll do what they did that led to the ceasefire,

00:50:27.040 which is they'll attack Qatar. They'll attack all of our Arab allies and their energy infrastructure, 0.98

00:50:32.320 which will only hurt the global economy even more, in addition to those allies of ours. 0.90

00:50:37.360 And then President Trump will be scared because we cannot have a global recession.

00:50:41.380 We certainly can't have an American one.

00:50:43.120 OK, stand by. 0.99

00:50:43.940 We're going to turn the page from Iran and discuss those Republican redistricting wins

00:50:48.680 and Spencer Pratt when we come back.

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00:52:03.380 Michael Knowles, host of The Michael Knowles Show, is back with me now. Michael, something

00:52:07.740 funny that my team just gave me. So this morning, our AM update, you know, our little morning

00:52:12.960 news headline show. It's only 16 or so minutes. It was tracked last night, not by yours truly,

00:52:18.660 but by my children, my three kids, as they did last Mother's Day as a gift, as a Mother's Day

00:52:25.800 gift to yours truly. They took on the hard work of actually getting the tracking done.

00:52:30.340 I was there, I confess, and it was actually super fun and enjoyable to watch them do it.

00:52:35.600 This is the second time they've done it. They did it last Mother's Day as well, and my team

00:52:39.240 put together a little one-minute,

00:52:41.340 is it the highlight reel of some of the outtakes?

00:52:44.660 They did a great job, but it's always fun to hear

00:52:47.060 the stumbles, and here are a few of them.

00:52:50.420 Three, two, one, go.

00:52:53.160 Good morning, everyone.

00:52:54.260 I'm Thatcher.

00:52:55.540 I'm Yates.

00:52:56.880 And I'm Yardley.

00:52:58.100 And this is a special Mother's Day edition of AM Update,

00:53:01.600 where we're giving our mom the day off.

00:53:03.260 Now, start out, you just screwed one of those words up.

00:53:06.900 It's okay.

00:53:07.640 With the candidate hammering city leaders, shoot, uh, where should I pick up from?

00:53:15.620 The only type that can spread person to person, though, close through person.

00:53:20.280 I'm confused on what I'm saying here.

00:53:22.000 The Pentagon releasing a trove of declassified materials on Friday related to the unidentified anomalous phenomena.

00:53:31.080 The unidentified anomalous phenomena.

00:53:34.840 Phenomena.

00:53:35.820 Unidentified anomalous phenomena.

00:53:37.640 Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.

00:53:41.620 An early April poll from UCLA's Luskin School of...

00:53:45.460 This is annoying.

00:53:48.100 I'm so much worse than you.

00:53:49.340 I'm doing so much better than I do.

00:53:50.120 How do you do this every day?

00:53:53.020 Thank you, everyone.

00:53:53.960 Happy Mother's Day.

00:53:54.980 Happy Mother's Day.

00:53:56.040 Thanks.

00:53:56.460 Have a great day.

00:54:00.640 Megan, I know they stumbled over a few words here and there,

00:54:05.260 but your children are much better at articulating the English language than many members of

00:54:09.940 Congress. So I would not let that discourage them at all. That's great. Also, you know,

00:54:15.060 you can hear at the top, Megan, your children's names, which is, it's giving me intense

00:54:20.420 wasp name envy because the Knowles line, they're very waspy. I mean, there's, I got a lot,

00:54:26.400 I've got like Clarences and Basil kind of, you know, and I, you're, for my fourth kid coming

00:54:32.020 out. I got to get a little more American, a little more English about this. Yes. Are you expecting

00:54:37.520 another child? We are. Yes. It's another. So happy Mother's Day to you and to my poor beleaguered

00:54:42.740 wife with our three and a half children, three that she's juggling all at once. And then one of

00:54:47.400 them half cooking as we speak. Congrats. That's great news. Yes, I know the names. We take a lot

00:54:54.220 of guff for them because a lot of people do not like the unusual names, but they're great. They

00:54:57.920 it came by them. Honestly, Yates is named after Doug's dad, uh, whose name was Manly Yates

00:55:03.620 Brunt. Um, and so we didn't want to go with Manly, but we liked Yates and my dad too. His full name

00:55:10.020 is Edward Yates. But, uh, and then when you have a kid named Yates, you know, you can't go with

00:55:14.600 like Ann for your next kid. So anyway, Yardley, I'm pretty sure is named after a very fat bald

00:55:21.760 man in the movie Christmas in Connecticut, Alexander Yardley, which I had seen. And like

00:55:26.420 shortly after I saw it, I was like, I've got it. It's Yardley. And so, yes, she knows she's named

00:55:30.580 after a very fat, old, bald man. In the newspaper business, though, so that's good. I'm sure she 0.94

00:55:34.840 loves that. Magazine, at least. Yeah. And then along came Thatcher. But yeah, my nana, God love

00:55:40.560 her, she lived to 101. She said, they have to live with those names. She was not. Their ex, 1.00

00:55:46.440 I am calling to all of the many, many listeners, I am calling for a resurgence, a revival of good,

00:55:53.680 solid waspy american names uh this is a great and i might i might be the first one to follow suit

00:55:59.760 frankly when our when our new do it yes i i've got some i've got some um some suggestions for

00:56:05.800 i remember there was one family name on doug's side for our daughter that we quickly rejected

00:56:10.000 but it was it was uh you know old school you know a lot of people like to name their kids

00:56:14.140 old school names parthenia parthenia parthenia that's my middle name how would you like that

00:56:20.980 parthenia brunt oh my god you're asking to get beaten up parthenia i love it i love it that's

00:56:25.600 beautiful this uh you know obviously with demographic change mass migration a lot of names

00:56:31.300 come and go in the uk now you know nine out of ten kids is muhammad basically i that what we're

00:56:36.760 talking about all the ways we got to restrict migration sure we got to increase the birth rate 0.99

00:56:40.760 but if we could just name a whole generation of parthenias that would go a long way to preserving

00:56:45.860 the culture. I just love it. It's true. We might be back on track. You raise a good point. All

00:56:51.220 right. And speaking of getting back on track, let's talk about this wonderful redistricting win

00:56:55.140 out of the Commonwealth of Virginia. So they tried to get two cube by half down there and go from a

00:57:00.860 six, five split Dems Republicans on their districts within the Commonwealth of Virginia

00:57:07.140 and change it to a 10 to one Democrat advantage. And they did this by a ballot initiative that did

00:57:14.880 not make at all clear to the voters what they were voting on. You know, it used sort of flowery

00:57:20.000 language that made it sound like, do you favor democracy? And sure enough, they did. And before

00:57:24.560 they knew it, their entire state, which is almost half Republicans, was their districts were wiped

00:57:31.440 out. They ensured almost entire Democrat rule for years to come. The Republicans filed a lawsuit

00:57:37.160 saying that's bullshit. They didn't follow the proper procedures in order to get something like 1.00

00:57:41.760 that passed. And the high court in Virginia, Virginia's highest court agreed and really

00:57:48.900 like gave it to the Democrats on this obvious, nasty procedural maneuvering, saying you've

00:57:56.460 completely violated the law. This will not stand. And now there is a serious discussion going

00:58:03.080 amongst some Democrats about whether they should immediately pass a new law limiting

00:58:11.880 those who can be eligible for the state's highest court to anyone under age 54, which

00:58:20.340 would make all of the current justices ineligible and would lead to them losing their seats

00:58:26.080 right away, at which point the theory is, the game plan, is to then replace them,

00:58:33.660 I think it's seven of them, with new judges who promise in advance that they will overrule

00:58:40.780 the decision the court just handed down and find the opposite way upholding this new scheme,

00:58:47.680 which would completely invalidate the state's judiciary forever.

00:58:54.460 They will lose all legitimacy if they do this.

00:58:59.380 It is one of, if not the most extreme things I've ever heard someone say about how to respond to a judicial decision one does not like.

00:59:09.260 And yet it's reportedly being seriously considered by Virginia Democrats in the wake of this devastating blow to their plan.

00:59:16.080 Your thoughts?

00:59:16.420 Well, this is not anything new for the Democrat playbook.

00:59:19.120 This goes back some 80, 90 years now.

00:59:21.340 Franklin Roosevelt, when his New Deal programs were being struck down as unconstitutional

00:59:25.740 ad infinitum, decided that he was just going to blow up the Supreme Court, and he was going

00:59:30.260 to rearrange it such that he would have a rubber stamp. And the only reason he didn't follow

00:59:34.160 through with that, in fact, was because one of the justices decided to flip at the last minute

00:59:38.400 to try to preserve something like the integrity of the Supreme Court. So they call it the switch

00:59:42.660 in time that saves nine. But Democrats have wanted to do this for a long time. They threatened to do

00:59:47.120 at the federal level. So there's no surprise. Now, the downside for them is I think people

00:59:51.540 see through it. Coincidentally, I was just up last week at Dartmouth. I was debating the left

00:59:56.340 wing pundit Mehdi Hassan over whether or not Trump has upheld the Constitution. And this is

01:00:03.920 Dartmouth is a liberal Ivy League campus, obviously overwhelmingly hates Trump. But what was very

01:00:09.440 interesting is this was a formal debate. So you could see who objectively won and lost. And even

01:00:15.740 at this very liberal campus, there was a six-point swing. Happy to say I won the debate,

01:00:20.960 even though Mehdi wrote a book called How to Win Every Debate. Very happy to say, well,

01:00:24.520 there'll be a new edition, How to Win Every Debate Except Against Michael. But even beyond,

01:00:28.600 it's not that I had such stunning rhetoric or anything like that. It's just very simple.

01:00:34.120 Oh, I bet it is.

01:00:34.800 Everybody knows that Trump has upheld the Constitution, and people recognize that today,

01:00:40.340 at the state level and at the federal level, the great threats to the constitutional order

01:00:44.620 come from the Democrats. I mean, here they're talking about essentially throwing out the

01:00:48.580 Supreme Court in Virginia. But what's so stunning is that the Democrats are getting knocked down

01:00:54.180 on constitutional points every which way. I think a lot of people are going to be confused. They're

01:00:58.060 going to think that the reason the redistricting in Virginia has gone down is because of the U.S.

01:01:03.480 Supreme Court decision, Louisiana versus Calais, which said the Democrats can no longer racially

01:01:09.080 discriminate in their gerrymandering, that that was a violation of the 14th Amendment. But no,

01:01:14.100 this is actually different. The Democrats are getting struck down on their redistricting

01:01:17.200 on multiple fronts at the federal level, at the state level. And all of this, Megan,

01:01:22.760 brings back a memory to me. About two months ago, I was interviewing the House Speaker,

01:01:26.740 Mike Johnson. And I said, you know, hey, Mr. Speaker, things are looking pretty bad for the

01:01:30.480 midterms, huh? And he looks at me, he says, Michael, looks me dead in the eye. He says,

01:01:35.320 Michael, I think we're going to grow the majority in the midterms. I said, well,

01:01:39.380 what's in your coffee? Hold on. Can I have a sip of that? I don't know if you smoked something

01:01:43.700 before this interview, but you know, he said, look to me dead in the eye. He says, I think we're

01:01:47.160 going to grow the majority. And I said, well, I like the enthusiasm. I like the optimism, but

01:01:51.300 I don't know. I don't know if I agree with that. Now that we are looking because of the Virginia

01:01:56.800 Supreme Court decision, the U.S. Supreme Court decision, redistricting going on around the

01:02:00.500 country, we are looking at a potential gain of 14 congressional seats for Republicans.

01:02:07.480 I'm now thinking that House Speaker Mike Johnson is Babe Ruth calling his shot to center field.

01:02:12.000 If this actually works out for Republicans, it's a big if. But if it does, that will be the greatest political call in the history of the U.S. Congress.

01:02:20.700 I'm counting here because you've got, OK, yeah, yeah, 14. You have five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 14.

01:02:27.740 Yes. And Democrats look like they're going to gain six seats from redistricting, which, you know, according to my math, is less than 14.

01:02:35.140 So that's good. At least even I can do that. 1.00

01:02:39.240 However, the problem is, the question is, how big will the swing likely be to Democrats?

01:02:49.800 I think most non-Republican speaker people think the Democrats are going to pick up seats because the party out of power almost always does.

01:02:59.380 And because of the poll numbers surrounding everything Trump is doing right now.

01:03:03.940 unfortunately the president's numbers i mean across the board are in the bottom third i mean

01:03:09.960 they're just really bad yeah it's rough and especially just as a political reality we were

01:03:13.640 talking about the iran war it's not great i mean that's the that's the big wild card but you know

01:03:18.420 the the point that the democrats can make is that the president's poll numbers and the gop's poll

01:03:23.120 numbers are quite bad right now the point the republicans can make is that's true but democrats

01:03:27.720 are also historically unpopular right now uh which is how you might get i don't know people

01:03:32.780 are talking about a potential upset in the L.A. mayor's race. I'm pretty skeptical of that.

01:03:36.580 But both parties are looking very, very bad. And then you have the wild card of the Iran war,

01:03:40.980 which is that if the war continues to drag on and we have a recession or we just have surging gas

01:03:47.680 prices or we right now housing is looking very shaky and obviously you get a lot of inflation

01:03:54.020 the longer that the strait remains closed, all of that could have a very, very acute effect on

01:03:59.120 the midterm elections. Frankly, that is what the Iranians are counting on. That's probably the 0.99

01:04:03.300 chief aspect of their political strategy right now. And then what the Trump administration's

01:04:08.280 counting on is that Iran just implodes before that happens. So that's that very dangerous game.

01:04:14.820 But I agree with you. I mean, by all historical precedent, Republicans should be probably blown

01:04:19.620 out of the water in the midterms. Whether or not these decisions from the courts can help to

01:04:25.780 stop the tide, obviously that remains to be seen. Yeah. I mean, that certainly

01:04:30.400 stems some of the bleeding, but you know, as I pointed out earlier in 2018, that was Trump's

01:04:36.800 first term, his first midterms, the Republicans lost 40 seats. Now we also, I don't know,

01:04:45.340 we expected a big Republican wave during president Biden's midterms. Remember in the middle of his

01:04:52.020 term in 2022. And I remember talking to you that night and we didn't get it. The Republicans did

01:04:58.600 take control of the House, but it was really slim. You know, they barely they barely had the margin

01:05:05.000 and that slim margin has been relevant ever since. So it's like maybe that same dynamic will kick in

01:05:13.640 here and save the Republicans to where like people are what they are and they don't really flip

01:05:19.500 around and they're partisan voting anymore. And it's like, you know, I view it like, okay, so

01:05:26.020 these people voted for Trump and they weren't all Republicans. It's like getting married and like

01:05:30.360 your wife is like a size four and she's young and she's got the flaxen hair and the flowing dress 0.92

01:05:36.800 and she makes you all your meals in the beginning. And then a couple of years into it, like she's 0.99

01:05:41.000 gained a hundred pounds and she just sits on the couch all day and watches shows. The kids are

01:05:46.640 unkempt and you never get a drink brought to you, never mind a meal made. And you're like,

01:05:51.080 there's a hot, sexy lady at the office paying me attention. But then you get a little closer 1.00

01:05:56.220 and the hot, sexy, lazy at the office is crazy. She wants to cut the penises off of your children. 1.00

01:06:01.880 She wants to let millions of people into your home to take your job. You're like, 1.00

01:06:08.480 eh, you know what? My original choice isn't looking so bad. So we're lucky over here on

01:06:15.180 team's sanity that the left is so nuts. And it could save us. I certainly hope so. I hope that

01:06:22.900 we have the discipline that when we lecherously show up to the office water cooler and stand over 1.00

01:06:28.580 the desk of that beautiful looking woman who looks suspiciously like a mixture of Gavin Newsom and 0.97

01:06:34.480 AOC, that we recognize it is not worth it. It is not. She's going to chop it off. It's not worth

01:06:40.620 it as you said i agree and and yes you do actually see that reflected in some of the polls i mean

01:06:45.540 obviously the the admin has has taken a hit but the democrats are looking really really bad there

01:06:51.800 was that op-ed in the new york times just published yesterday i think it was maybe today

01:06:55.440 that said that democrats need to stop talking about climate change which was their existential

01:07:00.820 fundamentally religious issue for decades at this point i mean aoc made her career on the green new

01:07:07.380 deal. Al Gore made his career on that PowerPoint movie. And the Democrats have been talking about

01:07:12.700 this since 1972. Now they're saying, pull the plug on that. They're obviously trying to downplay

01:07:17.420 the trans issue unsuccessfully, though, because they haven't changed their opinions at all.

01:07:21.720 They're trying to downplay their support for open borders. They can't really even hide that.

01:07:25.560 So we are lucky that the Democrats' strategy, they told us this months ago, was they're going

01:07:30.860 to run like Abigail Spanberger in Virginia. Abigail Spanberger, who pretended to be a moderate and 0.98

01:07:35.500 then immediately upon taking office, gave us the most left-wing agenda we'd ever seen in Virginia.

01:07:40.740 The problem with that is we've now seen how it plays out. And so when you push these people

01:07:45.880 even a little bit, you saw it in the California governor debate, you saw it in the LA mayor

01:07:49.820 debate. When you ask them on any of these issues, do you want to give welfare to illegals? Do you 0.60

01:07:55.760 want to just open up the borders to your country? They all say yes, they can't help it.

01:08:01.620 And yeah, I mean, it's I always say the Republican Party is the worst party in the United States other than the Democrats.

01:08:07.880 That's exactly it. That's what they have to bank on.

01:08:10.400 It'll be interesting this month as Jerome Powell steps down from the Fed and we have his replacement come into power, you know, because I think Trump thinks the new guy will be more, you know, someone who can work with him on interest rates to try to get the economy going.

01:08:26.040 But of course, the reason that Powell doesn't want to lower interest rates is he's still worried about inflation. Trump doesn't think that's a problem. But as inflation starts to gear up again, as a result of this oil problem, we're having this energy issue. I wonder whether the new guy will be inclined to lower interest rates. You know what I mean? Because inflation is more relevant right now than it was two months ago. That'll be an interesting thing to watch as we go into the summer.

01:08:52.040 um and yeah the democrats have a lot they have a lot on their plate that they have to deal with

01:08:56.940 too we'll see they got only the electorate can tell us its mood and we'll find out in about

01:09:01.580 six months you know nothing drives inflation as reliably as as energy obviously and this is just

01:09:08.400 one of these points that when you zoom out from the historical perspective i think this is what

01:09:11.820 caused a lot of skepticism on the iran war is you know the way president trump talks about it i think

01:09:16.640 he's totally sincere. I think he viewed this as a digression because it met his non-negotiable

01:09:22.620 line, which is we can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. And reasonable minds might disagree about

01:09:27.340 how close Iran was to a nuclear weapon. But he said, look, that's satisfied my criterion. So

01:09:31.820 we're going to go there. But it's just going to be a little digression. Don't worry about it.

01:09:35.880 We're going to put it in a compartment over here, and then we're going to get back to our agenda.

01:09:40.160 And the problem, especially when it comes to war, but really with any geopolitical event is

01:09:44.780 you can't just compartmentalize it all of a sudden there's so many externalities there's so many

01:09:49.880 unintended consequences that yes to your point megan you might even be getting into issues with

01:09:55.160 the fed because even if they were inclined to cut rates maybe now gas prices oil's driving

01:10:00.500 inflation up a little too much because it raises cost of any good that's shipped and all of a

01:10:04.560 sudden now that has an effect on housing and all you know these things spin out of control

01:10:08.740 this is one reason that we conservatives are a little shyer about wielding the government than

01:10:14.040 the left is the left thinks they can control everything in society. And really, you can't.

01:10:19.720 Yeah. Well, AOC, you mentioned her. She has Green New Deal. That was her big thing. She also had

01:10:27.240 pronouns in her Twitter bio, which have been removed. So those are two small victories as,

01:10:32.880 you know, her green energy push gets demolished by her own party and she's taken out the pronouns. 0.98

01:10:39.160 But she's on to a new thing, which she stole from Bernie Sanders.

01:10:43.140 And here's, well, it's a bunch of disinformation, but it also gives you the highlight of where she's going. 0.85

01:10:48.800 Stop 23. 0.95

01:10:50.200 The American Revolution was against the billionaires of their time.

01:10:56.920 And we're declaring independence from such an extreme marriage of wealth and power and the state.

01:11:07.000 Wrong again.

01:11:07.880 So apparently if you were to calculate George Washington's net worth in 2026 numbers, it would equate to $600 million.

01:11:16.660 So he really wasn't about fighting the rich.

01:11:20.380 That's not really what the American Revolution was about either.

01:11:24.400 But details, Michael, details.

01:11:27.000 So George Washington, not only was his estate worth, yes, as you say, Megan, the equivalent of about $600 million,

01:11:33.020 he also had neglected his plantation for all the years of his public service.

01:11:37.720 So you could say, well, he wasn't technically the equivalent of a billionaire.

01:11:41.100 He actually might have been.

01:11:42.320 He was sacrificing a lot of his wealth in order to fight for the revolution.

01:11:46.480 But we have some other data points as well.

01:11:48.180 George Washington was not the single wealthiest person in the colonies at the time.

01:11:53.140 He was pretty close, but not the single most.

01:11:55.380 That would probably go to Robert Morris, who is one of the few founding fathers who signed the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, and the Constitution.

01:12:04.380 the single wealthiest man in the colonies at the time of the revolution.

01:12:08.360 But it's not just him.

01:12:09.740 Think about the most famous signature associated with any of the documents of the founding.

01:12:14.560 That would, of course, be John Hancock.

01:12:16.860 So identified with the founding that it actually became a synonym for a signature.

01:12:22.320 You know, give us your John Hancock.

01:12:23.760 John Hancock, far and away one of the wealthiest people in the colonies at the time.

01:12:27.500 That's why it was such a statement when he wrote his name clearly and in large font

01:12:31.000 because he was risking everything. 0.69

01:12:32.580 So what I love about AOC's little history lesson here is not only is she a little bit off, she kind of messed around with a few facts, she is perfectly, 100% wrong. 0.99

01:12:46.900 Her view is entirely diametrically opposed to the truth.

01:12:50.960 And if anything, a reconsideration of the American Revolution should really make us love billionaires even more.

01:12:58.060 i mean honestly like one of their biggest complaints was taxation without representation

01:13:04.180 they didn't want england taking all of that money without them having any say in the matter so you

01:13:11.000 have to have means in order to object to the government taking them something she conveniently

01:13:15.780 ignores she failed on every front i don't know what they're teaching them at boston university 0.69

01:13:20.440 right now michael but her year i think she was out she was out to lunch or she was too busy making 0.61

01:13:25.160 those margaritas. Somebody who does show political promise, unlike AOC, is Spencer Pratt. You

01:13:32.140 mentioned him. And this guy, it's been very fun to watch him go unleash a can of reality whoop-ass 0.97

01:13:38.820 on our friends in California. Now, I want to start with what you said before. You remain

01:13:43.600 skeptical. I remain skeptical, too, because it's California. I mean, what are the odds they're

01:13:50.580 going to do the right thing. He's still trailing in the polls behind Karen Bass. The Polly market

01:13:55.920 and Kalshi, you know, that's the betting markets, look at these two, shows Spencer significantly

01:14:01.660 improving his odds since that debate of last week. But Karen Bass also significantly improved,

01:14:07.920 and she's reportedly some 20 points ahead of him in the betting markets and double digits ahead of

01:14:13.300 him in the actual polls. The other woman is basically imploded as a result of that debate. 0.97

01:14:20.580 But you remain skeptical that Californians are actually going to do it.

01:14:24.800 Notwithstanding, let me just show something from him.

01:14:27.380 Notwithstanding, amazing.

01:14:29.020 He shared this to his social media.

01:14:31.240 It's SOT19B, and it's him in an ad showing the streets of homes in Los Angeles.

01:14:38.440 And drug addicts, watch.

01:14:39.500 In disguises, no one knows.

01:14:45.240 Hides the face.

01:14:46.360 California Street.

01:14:48.200 Lies a snake.

01:14:50.580 Now they're zeroing into something at the end.

01:15:08.580 And it's a homeless encampment.

01:15:10.480 Your street deserves better.

01:15:12.320 L.A. deserves better. 1.00

01:15:15.400 Vote Pratt for L.A. Mayor.

01:15:17.900 Excellent, right?

01:15:18.880 No one's there.

01:15:19.620 There's no kids on bikes. 1.00

01:15:20.580 No girls doing hopscotch or jump rope. Nothing. Because this neighborhood, like so many others in L.A., really is suffering from a homelessness problem that becomes a drug problem doors away from where their children play. 0.99

01:15:38.340 You know, one of the attack ads on Spencer Pratt, which I thought was a parody, came out and said, you know, Spencer Pratt doesn't want to give a bunch of your money to junkie bums. 0.94

01:15:53.120 Spencer Pratt doesn't want to funnel all your cash to unions or whatever. 0.90

01:15:57.620 And I thought, oh, this is clearly a right winger who is making a joke about this.

01:16:01.800 No, apparently it was a real ad from an AFL-CIO union.

01:16:05.760 You can read this in the Electoral Commission reports.

01:16:08.960 And so they're completely out of touch, and Spencer Pratt is tapping into something real.

01:16:13.240 This is why he can go on TV in news interviews and say, you know, they call me the reality star.

01:16:17.800 Yeah, I'm the only candidate in touch with reality.

01:16:20.300 The problem is what you mentioned, Megan, on the Calci and Polly market prediction markets, which is, yes, when he came out there at that debate and just completely dominated, you know, created the legend of Pratt Daddy just coming home and restoring order.

01:16:34.480 Unfortunately, all that really did was get rid of Nydia Raman, who was the socialist from the city council.

01:16:40.900 And you say, OK, well, at least you take the really far left candidate out.

01:16:44.400 Well, we had a socialist on the city council running for mayor.

01:16:46.420 But the current mayor, Karen Bass, was a card carrying communist.

01:16:50.940 She was a member of an actual communist organization.

01:16:53.980 That's why Joe Biden overlooked her.

01:16:55.780 When he said that he was going to pick a running mate who was a black woman, he had three choices. 1.00

01:17:00.600 He had Karen Bass, who was a communist. 0.97

01:17:03.080 He had Susan Rice, who was Obama's full man for Benghazi.

01:17:05.900 That left Kamala Harris. 1.00

01:17:07.140 That's the only way she got that job. 1.00

01:17:08.440 But Karen Bass was in the running. 1.00

01:17:09.680 She was just way too radical.

01:17:11.220 And so, look, it's L.A.

01:17:12.340 It's Gomorrah by the sea, as we fondly call it.

01:17:15.120 And there's just not a ton of evidence that Pratt's going to be able to get the lift that

01:17:21.280 is required. 0.91

01:17:21.920 It could consolidate the race so that now you only have one crazy Democrat. 0.94

01:17:26.080 I hope I want every Republican out there.

01:17:28.260 I wish him all the best.

01:17:29.180 I want to do everything I can to support his campaign.

01:17:32.000 Any sane person needs to go vote for Pratt.

01:17:35.000 The problem is L.A. just isn't sane.

01:17:38.180 I mean, if if the last I've seen it up close for the last 10, 12 years, if if the homeless

01:17:44.520 encampments, the junkies, the crime, all of it burning the city down on at least one

01:17:50.160 occasion, if that doesn't lead you to vote for Republicans, I'm afraid the very best

01:17:54.860 ad in the world is not going to convince you either.

01:17:58.060 I know.

01:17:58.760 One of my producers lives in California, Lauren, and she's she's given me about 40 soundbites from Spencer Pratt because she's so desperate to see him elected.

01:18:09.440 She's, you know, a good she's a good, nice Orange County, California Republican. 0.96

01:18:14.060 And those poor, reasonable people are left in a field of hard leftists who still like Karen Bass after she burned down their city.

01:18:22.980 I mean, it's like, forget the homelessness.

01:18:25.140 She burned down their city.

01:18:26.740 There's like there's no more Palisades. And yet she's leading in the polls. Here's a little bit more from Spencer. I want to show this. Oh, wait, we have the ad to which you refer that you you thought was an ad for him. But really, it was a it was an attack ad here in Sot. I think it's 19 from the AFL-CIO. 0.94

01:18:45.700 Republican Spencer Pratt is the last thing Los Angeles needs for mayor. 0.88

01:18:51.280 Pratt opposes using taxpayer money to build brand new houses for our unhoused neighbors,

01:18:56.320 saying it's time for the homeless to get help or get out.

01:18:59.840 Pratt thinks L.A. needs thousands more police officers rather than more social workers,

01:19:04.500 and Republican Spencer Pratt thinks public employee unions should have less power, not more.

01:19:09.420 L.A. is on the right track and needs to stay the course.

01:19:12.960 Vote no on Republican Spencer Pratt.

01:19:15.700 oh my god that really is incredible spencer pratt doesn't want to kick puppies

01:19:21.720 spencer pratt loves tasty apple pie like what are you who are you appealing to what is what is the

01:19:28.740 argument it does show you something about the average california democrat like that

01:19:35.540 that they thought that ad would be really effective and maybe it will be that's what's

01:19:38.960 crazy like we're laughing but they're probably right they they're their neighbors probably

01:19:44.040 loved what they wrote because you did you saw the katie porter debate right with with um steve

01:19:48.940 helton and others that was the gubernatorial debate you saw it was like is it true that you

01:19:54.980 want to continue using taxpayer money to fund health care for illegals and she's like absolutely

01:19:59.380 of course that's what's humane it was like oh my gosh wow she's saying it out loud okay wait let

01:20:04.680 me keep going with spencer because back to cbs um they did a 28 interview with the guy 28 minute

01:20:12.360 interview. And it wound up in a three minute hit piece, he said. And we looked at it. It really was

01:20:19.800 slanted. They only included, like they highlighted his time on reality TV, including a soundbite from

01:20:26.240 it. They had a soundbite from a detractor rolling her eyes at him. And of all the great points he

01:20:32.980 made, they used one 40 second soundbite. He spoke to them for a half an hour, but they had plenty

01:20:40.480 of time for the Hills clips, uh, for his detractors clips. It's like, okay, what are we doing here?

01:20:46.540 Um, here is a little bit from the interview and this is, uh, 15.

01:20:53.580 Are you being strategic now or is this, is this the authentic Spencer Pratt?

01:20:57.420 I'm standing in my airstream of my burned down house. So I'm being strategic to fight

01:21:01.760 these people that have destroyed my life, my neighbor's life, all of Angelino's life. So yes,

01:21:07.040 I'm being very strategic to win and save LA, but no, there's no strategy when you're standing in

01:21:13.080 an airstream on your burnout town. You can't fake that. There's no bit to that. I would much rather

01:21:18.080 be in my house feeding my hummingbirds and have my life back, but that wasn't God's path for me.

01:21:23.860 And so now I'm going to undo the harm. These people are doing to a lot of people in the city

01:21:29.280 of LA and back to this thing. For instance, they say, Oh, he seems so angry. Everyone I talked to

01:21:34.560 in LA is angry. They're actually angrier than me because I have a beautiful two kids, a beautiful

01:21:38.940 wife. Some people are alone and they're dealing with the destruction of their city, not feeling

01:21:44.320 safe on the streets, all the disasters in this city. They're alone. At least I have my family.

01:21:50.100 I was a professional villain. I was a TV character personally. And I don't regret one of those things

01:21:56.060 because it was a show. I worked with the producers. I worked with the story writers and everything was

01:22:01.000 fake. Everybody thought I was this bad boyfriend. 20 years later, I'm still with my wife. We have

01:22:05.400 two beautiful kids. Okay. So that was a long clip from the outtakes, Michael. A small portion of

01:22:11.240 that made it into the three-minute piece. But the three-minute and 30-second tape spot, which had

01:22:16.780 just 40 seconds, 46 seconds of Pratt's interview, also included, let's see, this line about him.

01:22:26.720 the 42-year-old former reality star who has no political experience is now a main character in

01:22:31.700 the Los Angeles mayoral race. They featured debate clips with Karen Bass, including Karen Bass saying, 0.84

01:22:37.980 for the first time, we've had a reduction of homelessness two years in a row because of

01:22:42.360 policies that I have put in place. That's kind of favorable toward Karen Bass, don't you think?

01:22:46.620 You really could have highlighted some other portions of that debate. And then they've got

01:22:50.360 a political pundit in there who says it would be a hard road to convince a blue city like LA to vote

01:22:56.700 for a candidate like Pratt, identifying him, quote, as not only a novice politician, but somebody who

01:23:02.220 has pretty much aligned himself with Trump and Republicans. So he's now saying he's never going

01:23:09.280 to give CBS an interview again, and that if he becomes mayor and gets reelected one time, that

01:23:15.140 for the entire eight years, he will not be speaking to them. That's how mad he is about what

01:23:19.220 they did. It does make you wonder whether it's even worth it, you know, to sit down with these

01:23:23.940 outlets that are just going to do a piece like that about you. Yeah, it's very tempting because

01:23:28.860 network news still has decent penetration, especially, you know, it doesn't play as much

01:23:34.880 online. But among ordinary people who go out and vote, it is important to reach them. What's

01:23:40.960 confounding about the CBS interview, the hit job on Pratt, is that CBS is supposed to be the most

01:23:47.540 moderate of the three. And when Barry Weiss took over there, the promise was that it was going to

01:23:52.460 be, look, she's not a conservative, but it was going to be at least a little more centrist,

01:23:56.760 a little more fair. I myself, I've done interviews with CBS, and I thought they were

01:24:00.620 actually more than fair to me. So the question is, why Pratt? Why are they going after Pratt?

01:24:06.740 And I wonder if there's a pragmatic decision here, which is they don't think he's going to

01:24:12.200 win, and so they're willing to kind of write him off and cast him to the side. This is all

01:24:17.000 psychobabble. It's pure speculation. But it is a strange zag. After CBS had been positioning

01:24:24.000 itself as being the network most fair and favorable to conservatives, why would they go

01:24:30.000 out and really smack down the most exciting local candidate? That's such a joke. You know,

01:24:35.080 that hasn't happened at all. You know, it's like, yes, they stated that because the Ellisons have

01:24:39.780 some affinity for Trump. But Barry Weiss doesn't. If you ever read the free press, and I did all the

01:24:44.660 time. It's not woke, but it's not pro-Trump. They don't like Trump. And that's her. She's not woke,

01:24:51.880 except on the issue of Israel and anti-Semitism. She's very woke, as woke as they come on that.

01:24:56.260 She's as identity politics favorable as BLM is to its issues. But she doesn't like Trump.

01:25:03.060 So this line about him being, you know, he aligned himself with the maggot. Yeah. I mean, 0.82

01:25:08.020 I'm sure she's not monitoring every piece that they do, but that line would not be a problem

01:25:13.980 with the Barry Weiss. I know she'd be fine with that. We'll see. I'm rooting for him. I love what

01:25:20.480 he's doing. And I think even if he loses this race, Michael, he may have a future in politics,

01:25:26.840 notwithstanding. I don't know whether he'll throw his hat into a national race of some sort,

01:25:31.180 But I think he's helping redefine who can run for office and how it can be done.

01:25:38.900 You know, he's it's very that is very Trump like if you think about it, the way he's going about it.

01:25:44.220 He just doesn't care. The mocking face when the other candidate was like making fun of me.

01:25:49.840 He's like, that's great stuff. He's fearless.

01:25:54.120 And Trump Trump himself is literally a reality TV star.

01:25:57.020 So the parallels are pretty close. I thought Pratt's great response to this question of, you know, you don't have any experience in politics.

01:26:05.740 What makes you think you could be a mayor is, well, it was actually Trump's response when he became the Republican nominee without ever having held public office.

01:26:13.180 He says, look at what experience got us. Yeah, OK.

01:26:16.020 Well, if experience in L.A. is burning down the Palisades while you're on another continent and the fire is being caused by one of your own, one of your own ideological comrades, this left wing arsonist, allegedly, then if that's experience, I want the opposite.

01:26:31.860 Give me a novice, please.

01:26:33.400 I'd trust him a lot more with my home.

01:26:36.380 What good has her experience done L.A.?

01:26:38.780 I mean, it's just, look, if they continue to put Democrats in power after Gavin Newsom ruined their state and Karen Bass let it burn, they deserve what's coming their way.

01:26:50.280 I love you Californians, but you deserve it because you can't just keep electing the same kinds of people and expecting different results.

01:26:57.760 It's just that's not the way the world works.

01:27:00.200 All right.

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01:28:34.380 Jesse Kelly, Real Clear Politics, and many more. It's bold, no BS news only on the Megyn Kelly

01:28:41.320 channel, Sirius XM 111, and on the Sirius XM app. Michael Knowles, host of the Michael Knowles

01:28:51.220 show, is back with me now. So Michael, I don't know if you've been following this JP Morgan

01:28:55.620 saga, but there is this man who is accusing an executive there named Lorna Hajdini of allegedly

01:29:04.220 harassing him in some very bizarre and yours truly finds not credible ways. The banker's name is

01:29:12.580 Chirayurana. He's the complainant. And I mentioned Lorna is the accused. JP Morgan denies all of

01:29:20.100 this and she denies all of this saying, never, never a sexual interlude. We never had sexual

01:29:26.000 relations of any kind. I never drugged him. He alleges that she gave him both Rohypnol

01:29:31.740 and viagra so that she could rape him not to mention the alleged time that she forced him

01:29:40.740 he claims to allow her to go down on him which she did but he cried the whole time he wants us 0.71

01:29:48.040 to know he cried during the entire windy as i understand it's called by some men okay um now

01:29:55.620 we are learning more about him there was a deep dive in the wall street journal on saturday is

01:29:59.780 very good. It says, first of all, correcting the record on a couple things. He apparently

01:30:04.880 is unmarried. There had been reports he was married. He's unmarried. He was not having

01:30:09.580 any sort of an affair. He had alleged she was his supervisor. She wasn't. We actually

01:30:14.900 reported that correctly here on this program. They report that outside of work, these two

01:30:20.800 were regularly communicating with each other in group texts and would sometimes go out

01:30:26.720 together as a group. On occasion, co-workers would joke about Rana's Nepalese background in

01:30:34.200 the chats and refer to Indian men as, quote, brown boys. That's a term he claimed she used against

01:30:39.820 him. Rana liked one message. This is the plaintiff, Rana, where a colleague asked, quote, if a brown

01:30:45.400 boy could join a gathering. One screenshot reviewed by The Wall Street Journal shows they write that

01:30:52.480 Rana and Hajdini also exchanged seemingly friendly text messages with Hajdini sending

01:30:57.940 him SoundCloud links and memes, according to these screenshots. Nothing, though, about

01:31:03.480 screenshots showing her harassing him, calling him any sort of derogatory words, trying to

01:31:09.460 command him as her sex slave as he's claiming this lawsuit. And we learned late last week that

01:31:14.840 J.P. Morgan tried to settle this case before he filed it for a million dollars. He rejected it.

01:31:20.540 he originally wanted. He was demanding 11, and now he's asking for 22 million. The Wall Street

01:31:26.640 Journal report does point out he's been at several banks over the past, I think, 10 years. He's got

01:31:33.660 somewhat of a short work history at every bank he's gone to, none of whom want to comment on

01:31:41.080 the record about him. And then, of course, it broke that he had taken family bereavement leave

01:31:46.020 for his dead father, and his father is alive and well.

01:31:50.480 There's an intimation now in the Wall Street Journal report

01:31:53.420 that there may be someone who's like a father to him,

01:31:57.600 who he's now saying that may have been.

01:32:00.880 Okay, that's not how bereavement leave works.

01:32:04.100 It generally does, like father has a definition.

01:32:07.480 Can't just be like, you know,

01:32:08.640 the superintendent of your apartment building passed,

01:32:11.840 and you need time.

01:32:12.660 um colleagues uh kids who went to school with him in college he went to rutgers

01:32:18.380 remember him as driven and ambitious um others recall him as socially awkward

01:32:24.820 uh some say he could be aggressive while playing sports at rutgers he's from vienna virginia a

01:32:32.780 wealthy suburb uh the first of nepalese immigrants firstborn i should say and that's about it so he

01:32:41.180 He cycled through prestigious financial firms, including Credit Suisse, Morgan Stanley, Carlyle Group, and an affiliate of Apollo Global Management, and so on, but never stayed at any one for a particularly long time and didn't make it at J.P. Morgan for a particularly long time.

01:32:56.080 And then when he left J.P. Morgan, didn't make it at the next firm that he was with right before he filed this lawsuit for a particularly long time, all of which leaves us where, Michael Knowles?

01:33:04.960 Well, look, maybe it's all a big misunderstanding, because if he initially claimed that his father had died, and then it turns out his father didn't die, but it was someone who was like a father to him, maybe there was someone at J.P. Morgan who was like a dominatrix to him.

01:33:21.200 You know, it wasn't this girl, you know, sort of straddling him throughout the day at his cubicle.

01:33:26.640 But maybe there was someone who was kind of like his, I don't know, sexual harasser.

01:33:33.100 It's also very confusing because we were told initially that Mr. Chirayu, whatever, he had a wife whom he called a, pardon the phrase, it's from the reporting, who was a fish head, he said.

01:33:46.640 And even that.

01:33:47.520 But Lorna allegedly said that.

01:33:48.880 He alleges that his harasser said, look at these taking off her top. 0.69

01:33:54.380 Does your fish head Asian wife have anything resembling these cannons? 1.00

01:33:59.260 That's the key. 1.00

01:34:00.100 No, Megan, I guess there's no.

01:34:01.140 This is the key.

01:34:01.960 When I knew for a fact it was all untrue, not just because this woman is very good looking. 1.00

01:34:07.600 Plenty of good looking women are totally nuts and not just because she had a good job there. 1.00

01:34:11.740 Women in finance are definitely nuts. 1.00

01:34:13.620 And not just because this guy has a checkered history. 1.00

01:34:16.100 it was that word cannons you know i had heard the slur that he allegedly called his wife before

01:34:23.400 because i watched grant torino with clint eastwood a great movie but it was cannons because maybe you

01:34:28.220 can clarify this for me megan as far as i can tell no woman has ever actually referred to no

01:34:35.940 i mean men do but there is no this uh lawsuit in my humble opinion uh reads like a penthouse letter

01:34:43.800 You asked if I've been following the story.

01:34:45.940 I've been reading the news reports a little,

01:34:47.960 but only late at night when I can turn the blinds down

01:34:50.360 because it's embarrassing even to read this kind of material.

01:34:53.640 I've barely covered it on this show.

01:34:55.420 It's saucy, it's sultry, 0.58

01:34:57.580 it comes from this guy's crazy fantasies,

01:35:00.140 and I suspect he will not be getting a single dollar.

01:35:03.540 I agree with you entirely.

01:35:05.420 This is our opinion that this man is making this up.

01:35:07.740 No woman has referred to her breasts as cannons.

01:35:10.180 Any term of art about the breasts, 1.00

01:35:12.620 I've ever heard a woman say literally every time has been the girls I just women they're not 1.00

01:35:20.140 throwing around like cute terms really for they'll say breasts boobs the t-word but like 1.00

01:35:25.100 I've never heard a woman call them cannons that's another one I don't think the women use that's 1.00

01:35:30.960 more of a male term I mean we could look Megan we could fill three shows with all of the euphemisms

01:35:35.420 but that was a tell to me. That is not a lady term. Yes. Yes, I agree. And I'm just going to

01:35:42.640 be honest, like this woman looks very attractive. This guy, you know, looks pretty nerdy. He doesn't

01:35:49.180 really look like anything special that you'd risk your entire career for. Though that's not to say

01:35:53.620 that some women can't have psychological issues. And maybe there's something about this really

01:35:57.440 super tall guy who allegedly played basketball at Rutgers. He claimed she squeezed his calf muscle

01:36:02.800 and said, oh, you really did play basketball, didn't you?

01:36:06.080 Which also sounds fake.

01:36:08.320 Maybe there was something about him that did it for her,

01:36:10.760 but this to me seems like a disgusting smear campaign.

01:36:14.300 And I will say, I'm also very suspicious

01:36:17.300 of these short work stints.

01:36:20.260 He left J.P. Morgan like a year ago

01:36:24.200 and in that time found a new job and left it already.

01:36:28.480 Okay, when someone wants to come work for Michael Knowles,

01:36:32.080 You look at the resume and one of the first things you look for is, okay, what other jobs have they had and how long did they hold them?

01:36:39.680 Because if it's little short, less than one year stints, this person is the problem, not the job.

01:36:47.420 Yeah, it's all sorts of red flags here.

01:36:49.520 And then even just the specificity of the supposed episodes, like the one you referenced it earlier.

01:36:55.740 So I'm not, you know, I'm not telling tales at a school where he says that she came up to him, gave him multiple drugs, supposedly pleasured him, and he cried tears, not of joy, tears of joy maybe you could understand from this guy, but tears, I just, nothing, like every single red flag for scammer is going off here.

01:37:20.400 And I do feel for this woman, assuming that this is all bogus, which I think we mostly do.

01:37:25.460 This woman, I think she is married.

01:37:27.440 Like she has a family.

01:37:28.740 It is.

01:37:29.420 It's really awful that she's been dragged through the mud.

01:37:31.820 I don't know if she's married.

01:37:32.980 I haven't heard that.

01:37:34.140 I thought she was.

01:37:34.800 I could be wrong.

01:37:35.580 She's like a very. 1.00

01:37:36.560 She's got a reputation to uphold.

01:37:38.480 It's very hard to make it in a man's world at J.P. Morgan on Wall Street.

01:37:42.780 Are you kidding me?

01:37:43.500 This girl is like the unicorn that she's made it this far and she's well respected and she's 0.98

01:37:49.060 apparently on a good fast track. And it's like, boom, she gets saddled with this bullshit. Like 1.00

01:37:54.340 this is, I mean, listen, it's happened to a lot of men too. Then it'd be taken probably a lot more

01:37:58.640 seriously if it were a woman alleging this stuff about a man. But this just sounds so incredibly

01:38:03.900 laughable. The Rohypnol-Viagra combo. I mean, honestly, we don't even know if this is a medical

01:38:09.320 possibility. You know, like the Viagra can just work on that one appendage and like everything's

01:38:15.040 been knocked out. Your arms and legs are like this, but your one other appendage is add attention.

01:38:19.920 I just don't buy it, Michael Knowles. Sorry. No, this is it reads both as pornography. You know,

01:38:25.520 it reads like Penthouse or Playboy, but it also reads like science fiction. I don't know. I've

01:38:30.120 never tried it. I don't intend to try it. A cigar and a scotch is about as far as I go.

01:38:35.900 So we'll have to let the courts figure it out. All right. Note to my team today,

01:38:41.300 we will get the answer to whether this is possible.

01:38:43.600 We know people, we know professionals.

01:38:46.520 I don't know, who do we call?

01:38:48.240 Do we call like a prostate cancer doc?

01:38:51.240 Do we call, we can find this out.

01:38:53.020 We are gonna have this.

01:38:56.180 We're gonna have this answer for you tomorrow

01:38:58.600 here on the MK Show.

01:38:59.920 All right, before we go,

01:39:00.860 we've got to spend one minute on poor Jerry O'Connell.

01:39:04.980 I really like Jerry O'Connell.

01:39:07.240 He's so fun on social media.

01:39:09.060 He was in Stand By Me.

01:39:10.820 He was in Jerry Maguire.

01:39:14.200 He's married to Rebecca Ramjin, formerly Rebecca Ramjin Stamos, who's a supermodel.

01:39:19.980 But boy, oh boy, he gave an interview to Jamie Kennedy and came up with the very, very wrong answer about what he would do.

01:39:29.120 I think he's got three or four daughters if he saw a trans person in their bathroom.

01:39:33.740 Sat 21.

01:39:34.980 Not to make this about horoscopes, but I'm an Aquarian.

01:39:38.360 i let i water water flows i let water flow i'm like water baby let's say you're at the montage

01:39:46.020 hotel okay fancy hotel five star you're in the lobby sure and there is a guy there who's about

01:39:56.080 35 years old person person well he's a guy i'm gonna tell you why he's a guy because he's wearing

01:40:02.440 a dress he's wearing like a jill sanders skirt oh fun and um you notice that his

01:40:09.560 his unit is hanging out and it's about eight inches eight inches yeah soft and he goes

01:40:18.680 into the women's room what say you but he's wearing his jill sanders skirt i would say 0.96

01:40:25.880 say nothing of course you wouldn't and that's why we're fucking here i would say nothing nothing 0.99

01:40:34.380 um it's the wrong answer it's a fail and it's cowardly and it's going to endanger 0.98

01:40:39.380 his twin daughters that's what he has your thoughts michael that is the politics that's

01:40:44.540 the church of nice that's the morality of the people who think on the left and even get this

01:40:50.320 on the right, a little laissez-faire. Don't yuck my yum. Do whatever you want. Who's to say? I don't

01:40:56.220 want to be an authoritarian. I don't know. I'm not going to tell you how I see things. Folks,

01:41:01.000 if we cannot insist on basic truths and conclusions, basic limits, we cannot have a

01:41:08.400 society. If it is authoritarian to keep the man with the giant appendage out of the daughter's

01:41:15.140 bathroom, then call me Francisco Franco. Giant. Michael, thank you. Always wonderful to see you.

01:41:23.780 Tomorrow we are back with Garagos and Murphy of the Well. We're going to ask Garagos about the

01:41:29.480 new Michael Jackson movie. He was his client. See you then. Thanks for listening to The Megyn

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 11, 2026

What Got CUT From CBS' Netanyahu Interview, Plus Spencer Pratt's Secret Ingredient, with Michael Knowles ｜ Ep. 1314

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