The Megyn Kelly Show - Whining Walz and Crying Dokoupil, with Mark Halperin, and Truth About UFOs, with David Grusch and Rep. Anna Paulina Luna ｜ Ep. 1225

00:00:00.000 Hey Ontario, come on down to BetMGM Casino and check out our newest exclusive, The Price is Right Fortune Pick.

00:00:06.360 Don't miss out. Play exciting casino games based on the iconic game show only at BetMGM.

00:00:11.320 Access to The Price is Right Fortune Pick is only available at BetMGM Casino.

00:00:14.380 BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly. 19 plus to wager Ontario only.

00:00:18.120 Please play responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you,

00:00:21.820 please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge.

00:00:26.500 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario.

00:00:30.000 What matters most to you? Is it unforgettable adventures? Connections with lifelong friends?

00:00:37.580 Peaceful moments of reflection? Feelings of joy and freedom you can't wait to experience again and again?

00:00:44.740 Or is it the vehicles that help you make all those special moments possible?

00:00:49.240 Whatever your answer is, Toyota is here to bring you closer to the things that matter to you.

00:00:54.560 Because they matter to us too. Toyota. For what matters most.

00:01:00.680 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.420 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:15.440 Later today, David Grush will be here as we dive into the topic of UFOs or UAPs as they're now called.

00:01:21.500 And a bombshell new movie on disclosure. Is the big disclosure coming soon?

00:01:27.820 Is all of this just a prelude to a big admission directly from those in charge?

00:01:32.680 But we begin today with the political landscape.

00:01:35.160 As Secretary of State Marco Rubio's stock appears to be on the rise,

00:01:39.320 we are seeing meltdowns from Governor Walz in Minnesota

00:01:43.060 and from the new head of the, quote, office to protect tenants in Mayor Zoran Mamdani's administration in New York.

00:01:50.780 This woman who we told you about yesterday, who hates white people who own property. 1.00

00:01:56.060 You'll be shocked to learn she's a total hypocrite. 1.00

00:01:59.000 And she got caught on camera by, I think, both the Daily Mail and the New York Post this morning.

00:02:05.140 And she cried and ran back into her apartment.

00:02:10.380 So she's not ready for prime time.

00:02:12.560 We'll show you the pictures.

00:02:14.060 You can't run around calling white people who own homes racist

00:02:18.500 and say you have plans to devastate the white middle class or the middle class period

00:02:24.440 and not expect a little blowback, sweetheart,

00:02:27.560 when you become an administrative official for the greatest city in America.

00:02:33.560 You're going to have a little blowback.

00:02:35.040 We're going to need to talk about PR skills, and we'll do that in just a bit.

00:02:39.640 We are bringing on the host of Next Up with Mark Halperin to do that.

00:02:44.100 He is Mark Halperin, and his show is over on the MK Media Podcast Network.

00:02:48.660 Go subscribe now on YouTube and all podcast platforms.

00:02:52.040 Again, it's Next Up with Mark Halperin.

00:02:54.320 You can find it.

00:02:55.280 Just go to nextuphalperin.com, and it'll bring you to all the platforms where you can enjoy Mark's work.

00:03:02.080 Let's be honest.

00:03:03.340 No one's simmering bones for 24 hours anymore in their stovetop.

00:03:07.160 But our bodies do still need the benefits of real bone broth, especially as we age.

00:03:12.000 And that's where Paleo Valley's 100% grass-fed bone broth protein powder comes in.

00:03:18.040 It's made from American cattle raised with regenerative farming practices.

00:03:22.300 That's what you want to hear.

00:03:23.640 Sourced only from bones and water.

00:03:25.840 No chemicals, no fillers, no mystery ingredients.

00:03:28.760 Collagen levels can drop fast after 30, and this protein helps replenish what's missing,

00:03:33.960 supporting joint comfort, gut health, muscle recovery, and even smoother, more hydrated skin.

00:03:38.740 It's perfect for busy people, just 30 seconds a day in coffee, smoothies, or hot water.

00:03:45.080 Chocolate, vanilla, and salted caramel flavors can turn your morning drink into a collagen-rich treat.

00:03:50.320 Or try savory original in soups and stews and unflavored when you want a clean boost.

00:03:55.900 Modern diets are missing collagen-rich foods.

00:03:58.660 Paleo Valley makes it easy to get them back without the mess.

00:04:02.020 Right now, you can get 15% off your first order at paleovalley.com with code MEGAN.

00:04:07.260 Mark, welcome back.

00:04:10.380 Happy New Year.

00:04:11.300 Happy to be back, and I will try both not to cry or talk about UFOs.

00:04:16.140 Many people are crying in the news today.

00:04:18.460 We will not be two of them.

00:04:20.580 It's insane.

00:04:21.700 I guess we should start there.

00:04:23.020 She's a nutcase, this woman, Sia Weaver. 1.00

00:04:26.420 Not only did we see the reporting that we brought to the audience yesterday from X on what a lunatic this woman is, 0.99

00:04:34.760 but now Unheard has released additional tweets of hers and comments of hers that just double down on the nuttiness.

00:04:45.340 This woman does not appear to be very well.

00:04:47.740 I mean, that's my only real take here.

00:04:49.800 Like, something needs to be done about her.

00:04:51.320 I'm going to kick it off by showing her—okay, let's see.

00:04:55.860 Oh, this is what she thinks should happen.

00:04:57.300 And this is just from October—with our PTAs in New York.

00:05:02.040 PTAs, which, you know, I'm a parent.

00:05:04.420 The PTA worries about, like, teacher gifts around Christmas, fundraisers for the school, and, like, social dances for the children.

00:05:14.140 Not according to Sia Weaver.

00:05:15.440 They have bigger things on their plate, she thinks.

00:05:17.620 Sot 22.

00:05:18.080 We should really look to what Brandon Johnson and, as well as the Chicago Teachers Union, is doing to really use the schools and the city as sites of resistance against a federal incursion.

00:05:30.360 If you're comfortable in your coalition, you're not winning power.

00:05:33.580 If ICE and the National Guard are coming to New York City, ICE is already here.

00:05:38.040 If the National Guard is coming on January 1st, which we know they are, we really have to use our tenant associations and our parent-teacher associations and our public schools as, like, networks of defense in support of Surround's agenda and in support of our neighbors.

00:05:55.440 Okay.

00:05:56.480 So the PTA needs to be first line of defense against ICE.

00:06:03.580 I'm looking forward to that in New York City.

00:06:05.400 That's going to go swimmingly well.

00:06:07.000 As all of this comes up, she sits down for a radio interview on, I think it was ABC, yeah, it was Spectrum News yesterday.

00:06:16.400 And she is asked about Mayor Adams, outgoing, the now former mayor of New York, about some of his criticism of her lunacy, like, property is theft, moving to the suburbs is structural racism.

00:06:31.980 You're not allowed to live in the suburbs, Mark.

00:06:35.680 By the way, she lives in a totally gentrified Brooklyn neighborhood.

00:06:39.820 She is one of the white people who moved into a minority neighborhood and paid too much money, thus increasing the rental and the real estate values, which is racist.

00:06:50.320 And now the Daily Mail reveals that her mother lives in a $1.4 million home down in Nashville and is a teacher at Vandy, Vanderbilt University, and is a gentrifier herself.

00:07:06.320 So she's a hypocrite. 1.00

00:07:07.580 And she gets asked about some of her comments, like her homeownership is white supremacy comment on this Salem or Spectrum interview on Tuesday.

00:07:18.160 Here's how that went, Sot 23B.

00:07:21.040 The former mayor, Eric Adams, said that you were, quote, out of your effing mind.

00:07:24.920 That was in response to a resurfaced tweet from way back when of something you'd said on Twitter about homeownership being a tool of white supremacy.

00:07:33.020 I wanted to give you a chance to respond.

00:07:34.720 You're not out of your mind, right?

00:07:36.400 I don't think I'm out of my mind.

00:07:38.360 You know, I think that some of those things are certainly not how I would say things today and are regretful.

00:07:45.280 But, you know, I do think my sort of decades of experience fighting for more affordable housing sort of stands on its own.

00:07:50.560 I'm proud to be in this role fighting for stronger tenants' rights.

00:07:53.000 And I think that for many years, people have been locked out of the property market that has produced a lot of systemic and racial inequalities in our system.

00:08:00.140 And I want to make sure that everybody has a safe and affordable place to live, whether they rent or own.

00:08:05.980 And that is something that I'm laser focused on in this new role.

00:08:09.600 Okay.

00:08:10.480 So it's a timing issue, Mark.

00:08:12.700 She wouldn't say those things these days.

00:08:14.660 But, you know, she was young and naive back in, like, 2020 when she described America KKKA as an apartheid state and called for defunding the NYPD.

00:08:29.360 Also said white people, white people, and corporate fucking Dems, who are also white people, were the problem after Donald Trump was elected.

00:08:38.740 And then, of course, in 2018, called for ICE to be abolished.

00:08:44.020 So she doesn't want cops. 1.00

00:08:45.220 She doesn't want ICE.

00:08:46.780 And in the not-so-distant past, also said that she celebrated the government's sacred right to seize property and appeared to call for the abolition of not just, quote, abusive landlordism, but private property in general.

00:09:02.460 This is not when she was in middle school.

00:09:05.220 This is just a couple of years ago, Mark Halperin, so what are we to make of Sia Weaver?

00:09:10.160 I mean, I think three things about the matter of Sia Weaver, in re-Sia Weaver.

00:09:14.400 First, when somebody says, oh, these were regrettable, like, the reporter should say, let's walk through it.

00:09:21.380 This is not a million years ago.

00:09:23.300 What do you regret about it?

00:09:25.240 So she's got a PR advisor telling her to say they're regrettable and think she can move on.

00:09:29.240 Number two, how could she have gotten through a job interview?

00:09:32.440 And I'm not just talking about the vetting of all these public statements.

00:09:37.240 I'm talking about competence and the question of this mayor trying to prove himself that he's going to know how to run this city.

00:09:46.140 How could she have survived a job interview?

00:09:47.760 I don't get that.

00:09:48.720 And then lastly is just her demeanor freaks me out.

00:09:52.100 I'll be honest about it.

00:09:53.480 There's just something about her demeanor that is really unsettling to me.

00:09:57.820 And as a resident of New York, I plan to go cover her if she stays in the job. 0.80

00:10:02.780 But this is just, it's just, he's off to such a, I saw a story, several stories saying he's off to a fast start.

00:10:10.360 I don't know what else he's doing.

00:10:11.980 But this lady is two anchors handcuffed around his ankles if he's trying to get off to a fast start.

00:10:19.380 Yes, her demeanor freaks me out too.

00:10:22.480 And I, I, I'm going to overrule her PR advisor and give her some real PR advice.

00:10:28.500 And she should actually listen to me.

00:10:30.440 First of all, you desperately need, Sia, a little eyebrow pencil. 0.61

00:10:34.680 It doesn't have to be excessively heavy, but you need to put some over your eyes.

00:10:38.760 They're already very sunken to begin with.

00:10:41.060 Something to define the space as where the eyes are would be helpful.

00:10:45.900 And in that same genre, you should add a little mascara.

00:10:49.960 Just a little, I mean, if we're really going to be honest, some bronzer and some lip gloss also would be your friends.

00:10:56.660 I also have to talk to her about the crying.

00:10:59.080 It's important, Mark.

00:11:00.180 You've been in the public eye.

00:11:02.320 You've been dragged many fucking times.

00:11:05.180 It's a brutal business.

00:11:07.320 They will take your worst moments.

00:11:08.720 They will use them against you.

00:11:10.200 They will tell the world you're a terrible, terrible person, whether you are or you aren't.

00:11:15.060 It's sad, but it's true. 1.00

00:11:16.780 That's life as a public figure these days.

00:11:18.500 Well, poor Sia got caught by the Daily Mail and the New York Post outside of her gentrified place in Brooklyn. 0.80

00:11:24.520 And instead of just saying, guys, you know, whatever.

00:11:28.680 I spoke to this on Spectrum News or go home.

00:11:32.200 She cried, Mark.

00:11:33.700 She cried.

00:11:34.860 It's all over the Daily Mail.

00:11:37.060 What's that?

00:11:37.300 I call her, I call her sad Sia. 1.00

00:11:39.300 Sad Sia. 0.94

00:11:40.040 Sad Sia. 0.94

00:11:41.240 She cried on camera with the Daily Mail and the New York Post.

00:11:44.980 And then she ran back inside her apartment. 0.98

00:11:48.060 She cried and ran.

00:11:50.580 This is a no.

00:11:51.800 I mean, no matter how bad it gets, right?

00:11:54.600 Like, the whole press was telling the world that I was a pedophile lover two months ago.

00:12:01.400 Did I cry?

00:12:02.320 No.

00:12:03.000 It's called being in the public eye.

00:12:04.760 They say terrible things about you.

00:12:06.540 In Sia's case, it happens just to be a resurfacing of her actual words.

00:12:10.400 That's fine.

00:12:11.260 But you don't cry and you don't run inside when the Daily Mail shoves a camera in your face.

00:12:16.620 It doesn't bode well for the long-term prospering of sad Sia. 1.00

00:12:21.040 Yeah.

00:12:21.320 I do have a sound effect for sad Sia when she cries. 0.89

00:12:25.360 Wah, wah, wah.

00:12:27.260 That's my sad Sia sound effect.

00:12:29.040 Every time she cries, I'm going to just pump that out on social media.

00:12:33.260 It works, your sad trombone, because it's somewhat reminiscent of the Charlie Brown teacher.

00:12:39.740 And she looks just kind of like a Charlie Brown figure with, like, ill-defined features and just a round, super white face.

00:12:49.060 Okay, so.

00:12:50.240 And just black slits for eyes.

00:12:52.860 Here's the other thing.

00:12:54.580 Okay, so here's a little bit more on her from the Daily Mail.

00:12:56.440 Now, the privileged former Bryn Mawr college student, of course, of course she is, her stunning hypocrisy was uncovered by the Daily Mail on Wednesday when we revealed her mother owned a gorgeous craftsman home in Nashville worth $1.4 million.

00:13:09.400 The Tennessee city is America's fastest gentrifying.

00:13:13.740 So it's not just gentrification.

00:13:15.200 It's the fastest gentrifying that her mother lives in. 0.61

00:13:18.140 So I guess she thinks her mother's a racist. 1.00

00:13:19.800 But Weaver gave no indication to her family wealth and has now refused to say whether she will ask her mother to give up her private property and also would not say what she's going to do if she inherits the mother's gentrified home in Nashville.

00:13:36.720 Weaver lives in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, a historically black neighborhood whose longtime residents have also been priced out by white newcomers.

00:13:45.600 And on and on it goes.

00:13:47.620 Now she's deleted her ex account and her Facebook account as well, where Unheard got to some of the posts that I kicked the segment off with.

00:13:59.520 And I'm sorry, Mark, I don't know what Mayor Momdani does with this.

00:14:04.760 He doesn't seem to care.

00:14:06.040 And maybe his voters won't care either.

00:14:08.840 But he's in for a hot mess of stories with this person in charge of tenant housing who thinks government seizure of property is a great thing.

00:14:15.640 And that whites need to be deprived of their homes, at least if they're in the middle class. 0.94

00:14:20.860 Sad Sia has some regrets.

00:14:22.500 Let's see how long she stays in this position. 1.00

00:14:24.860 The mayor doesn't seem inclined to get rid of her.

00:14:27.340 But I suspect she may not have deleted her MySpace account yet.

00:14:31.020 And that's where people will head next to see what's on there for Sad Sia. 0.88

00:14:35.140 I mean, again, the stuff is laughable.

00:14:37.940 But I continue to wonder about this mayor.

00:14:40.860 This is not the only personnel decision he's made, some having to do with past controversial statements and unacceptable statements.

00:14:47.540 But some of it is just people who aren't qualified.

00:14:50.000 And hypocrisy is unattractive.

00:14:53.040 And I think we'll learn more about the life and times of Sad Sia. 0.91

00:14:57.400 And she should explain this stuff.

00:15:00.720 The lack of explanation, I think, is why this story will persist.

00:15:04.680 Well, and she can't.

00:15:06.560 And it's not the timing.

00:15:07.720 It's not that she was this young, errant child making these comments.

00:15:11.640 Here's one from March of 2024.

00:15:14.900 All right.

00:15:15.320 Not even a year ago when she spoke to Sam Sater on the majority report, Sot 23.

00:15:21.860 The mechanisms for acquiring distressed housing could look different on a building-by-building basis.

00:15:28.940 In some cases, what happens is tenants form a tenant association.

00:15:32.600 They have a scofflaw landlord or someone who's not making repairs.

00:15:35.720 And they could pressure, you know, using organizing tactics, they could pressure to the Social Housing Development Authority to take over their homes, to buy their homes.

00:15:45.260 In other cases, it might happen through, like, a legal process.

00:15:48.240 A couple days ago, one of the most notorious landlords in the city, his name is Ob Shalom.

00:15:54.000 He was arrested because he is treating his tenants so badly.

00:15:57.580 Hundreds of thousands of open code violations.

00:16:00.180 In cases like that, where the city is actively pursuing already sort of litigation and enforcement mechanisms against the landlord, the SHDA is an option.

00:16:08.780 We can say, hey, you know, you are not maintaining this building, and we are the city of New York.

00:16:14.440 We have an interest in making sure that housing is well-maintained, and we're going to take this building away from you.

00:16:20.280 Okay.

00:16:22.380 That's going to be a real hit with the landlords of New York, Mark.

00:16:27.100 Well, there's a big New York Times piece about her, and it quotes one real estate person who's her friend favorably.

00:16:34.000 But I suspect that that was a bit of an outlier, and it's going to be interesting.

00:16:38.580 The real estate industry is super powerful, one of the super most powerful lobbyists in the city and players in the city, and it's going to be interesting to see.

00:16:46.480 And I thought you showed awesome self-restraint in not commenting on her hair looks in that clip.

00:16:51.560 I mean, that is how my hair looks when I'm getting ready for bed, but this is not how you give an interview, Sia, please, for the love of God.

00:17:01.040 You know what?

00:17:01.440 We have something exciting that we're going to be starting on the MK Media Podcast Network soon, Mark Halperin.

00:17:06.640 I'll announce it shortly.

00:17:07.660 I don't want to give it away just yet, but it can involve Sia.

00:17:10.080 I could do some real good for this gal. 1.00

00:17:11.960 She would just put herself in my good hands.

00:17:13.440 I mean, obviously, she would have to quit her job first because I can't help her as she's behaving like a devil. 1.00

00:17:18.620 By the way, when she ran inside of her home, chased by the Daily Mail, they noted that she has a free Palestine poster taped to one of its windows.

00:17:26.740 Okay, that's on brand.

00:17:28.700 And it reminded me, her $1.4 million mother's house and her nice home in the gentrified Crown Heights area of Brooklyn,

00:17:37.060 that when Zora Mamdani, socialist, got sworn in, along with his socialist wife, she was wearing boots that reportedly cost $650.

00:17:46.200 It doesn't feel very socialist-y.

00:17:48.200 It doesn't—I'm pretty sure, because I just went on Amazon to get new winter boots for my kids,

00:17:54.700 and you can definitely get nice ones for $60 on Amazon, like really good ones that you can be outside in Montana in.

00:18:01.700 So I'm pretty sure you can be in Manhattan with something less than $650 boots if, in fact, you're a true socialist, Mark Halperin.

00:18:08.840 But all of these people are bullshit.

00:18:11.500 This is an act for show, as is wokeism in general, to try to make you feel like you're better than other people.

00:18:19.680 You know the old phrase, limousine liberal?

00:18:21.680 I call these sumptuous socialists.

00:18:24.320 Yeah.

00:18:25.220 Sumptuous socialists.

00:18:25.620 It makes sense.

00:18:26.100 It makes sense.

00:18:26.780 So, I mean, what do we do other than call them out on the hypocrisy, like the homes and the boots?

00:18:32.440 Well, let's see if she can do the job. 1.00

00:18:34.200 You know, I suspect, given her demeanor and her rhetoric and her attitude,

00:18:39.600 that it may—government service may turn out not to be everything she's dreamed of doing.

00:18:45.360 And let's see, a lot of what they want to do on housing will require the help of the governor,

00:18:50.560 who is a bit of a mess but not a socialist.

00:18:53.960 And so let's see how long she's there. 0.97

00:18:56.480 She may be available for your new surprise program before too long.

00:19:00.980 Now, speaking of crying, we have to talk about the new anchor of CBS Evening News.

00:19:07.940 There's no crying in Evening News.

00:19:09.740 But there might be some crying when a president is shot and assassinated right before your very eyes,

00:19:16.920 like we saw with Walter Cronkite, though he didn't—

00:19:19.920 there was like a wiping of the eyes when he took off the glasses to report that JFK had been shot and killed.

00:19:25.320 But that's as far as—

00:19:26.420 A little catch in the throat.

00:19:27.760 That's right.

00:19:28.280 That's as far as he went.

00:19:29.620 That's as far as most evening news anchors would ever have gone traditionally.

00:19:34.960 It's the dawn of a new day.

00:19:36.320 Today, I'm going to get to the incredible tape.

00:19:39.780 Like, I literally could not believe my eyes.

00:19:42.480 But I'm going to set it up first, okay?

00:19:45.100 Tony Docapul is the new CBS Evening anchor.

00:19:48.240 And I've got to be honest.

00:19:49.180 I believe he got the role because he gave—what's his name?

00:19:52.580 Ta-Nehisi Coates, a challenging interview on CBS Mornings about his 10 days in Israel,

00:19:58.060 where he then declared himself an expert, which was a ridiculous proposition,

00:20:01.500 and no one had been challenging him.

00:20:02.720 And Tony did a good job of that.

00:20:03.940 And Barry is very, very pro-Israel.

00:20:06.920 Trust me, I'm aware because she just blew up our friendship over it. 0.99

00:20:10.020 And even though I'm an Israel supporter, and she hired him.

00:20:14.080 She liked what he did in that interview, I'm telling you.

00:20:15.800 And that's why he got this job.

00:20:17.000 It was over that interview on Israel.

00:20:19.740 So, okay, he does a good job in Israel.

00:20:21.940 But now he comes in and he says,

00:20:25.040 I get it.

00:20:25.680 I'm one of you.

00:20:27.120 And he gave this whole thing about, you know,

00:20:30.020 how I'm going to be listening to you, not the experts.

00:20:32.400 Well, that's honestly not the answer.

00:20:35.120 Just follow the facts, please.

00:20:37.000 You know, like, it's not that you need the common viewer to tell you what the news is.

00:20:41.480 You are too reliant on experts in mainstream news.

00:20:44.200 That's true.

00:20:44.920 But, like, the facts are what matters.

00:20:47.180 It's so pandery to say, like,

00:20:49.020 I'm just going to listen to you and do what you tell me.

00:20:51.540 That's not it either.

00:20:53.080 So they're scrambling.

00:20:55.360 They're desperate for viewers.

00:20:56.480 They're not going to get them.

00:20:57.300 The era of the evening news anchor is over.

00:21:00.480 So nobody says it better, as far as I'm concerned, than Adam Carolla,

00:21:04.620 who is such an astute observer of the media business and of life and of America.

00:21:11.140 And he went on a tear yesterday in response to this Tony Doka pool, like,

00:21:15.980 oh, gee, no more experts, just you.

00:21:17.940 And I'm going to listen.

00:21:18.740 And I, too, have shared near frustrations,

00:21:20.840 none of which is evidenced by his own coverage over the years, by the way.

00:21:23.900 He doesn't sound like a frustrated,

00:21:25.800 I can't stand the mainstream news media anchor at all.

00:21:29.800 But here's Adam Carolla responding to that bit,

00:21:33.900 which we played yesterday on the show.

00:21:35.140 But now here's Adam's response, SOT 28.

00:21:38.440 He's going to explain to us, with all these stories, what happened.

00:21:42.200 Under Biden's laptop or the president's fitness for office.

00:21:46.720 The point is, on too many stories, the press has missed the story.

00:21:51.780 Because we've taken into account the perspective of advocates and not the average American.

00:21:57.200 All right, pause there.

00:21:58.400 That's fine.

00:21:59.120 You didn't miss the story.

00:22:00.920 You lied about the story.

00:22:02.900 And, yes, you did listen to advocates.

00:22:05.840 By the way, you're not supposed to listen to advocates.

00:22:08.160 You're supposed to go do the research and crunch the numbers,

00:22:11.720 not listen to people who work for this organization or that organization who have an agenda.

00:22:17.360 You don't need to talk to the average American, either.

00:22:19.620 You're a news organization.

00:22:22.380 Does COVID kill healthy kids?

00:22:24.640 No.

00:22:25.420 Okay, we got our answer.

00:22:27.380 Go do some fucking work.

00:22:29.700 Don't talk to me.

00:22:31.840 Let's go do some journalism-ing.

00:22:34.480 I love him so much.

00:22:36.040 Your thoughts on that take?

00:22:37.760 I like the phrase journalism.

00:22:39.980 Journalism-ing?

00:22:40.620 Is that what he said?

00:22:41.180 Journalism-ing?

00:22:41.600 Like as a verb.

00:22:42.160 Yeah, I haven't seen the show yet, so I don't know what exactly they're doing on the show.

00:22:48.220 I don't get this move towards the notion of we're going to talk to normal, ordinary people.

00:22:56.200 At the same time, as you and I both know, all wisdom is not found in New York and Washington.

00:23:02.420 So if they can find a way to infuse the journalism with a conception of what's really going on in the country, I'm all for that.

00:23:10.000 But I don't understand the sort of concept of we're going to listen to what you want on the show or whatever it is they mean.

00:23:17.320 I want to see how it plays out, but I don't get it.

00:23:19.940 But let me tell you something.

00:23:21.260 That is bullshit pandering.

00:23:23.160 That's what that was by Tony Dokopoul.

00:23:24.840 Like, I'm going to be listening to you.

00:23:26.760 You know, I'm not going to be like these other guys.

00:23:29.560 His coverage prior to taking this role does not support that he does that at all.

00:23:36.600 And no one was making him be a biased leftist in the tank for leftist ideals.

00:23:41.840 He's married to MSNBC's Katie Turr, which tells us a lot, first of all.

00:23:45.220 Here he is.

00:23:47.240 We just went back just to do a brief search to see how he covered some of the more controversial stories that have been in the news over the past few years.

00:23:53.220 This is September 21st, 2021, talking about the alleged incident in which the very mean, bad Border Patrol whipped the Haitian migrants crossing the border.

00:24:08.480 Watch.

00:24:10.340 Images along the border are shocking.

00:24:12.400 And the bar is high for shocking images along the border.

00:24:15.280 You've called them horrific.

00:24:16.780 What did the president say?

00:24:18.260 How did he feel when he saw them?

00:24:20.000 He also felt they were horrific and horrible.

00:24:22.080 I don't know anyone who could watch that video and not have that emotion.

00:24:26.120 This was more than 24 hours after it had broken that these were very questionable images.

00:24:31.920 And the Reuters photographer was already saying that's not what they showed.

00:24:35.780 But they ran with it.

00:24:36.940 Tony Dokopoul got on there, set it up with Jen Psaki.

00:24:40.020 Shocking.

00:24:40.940 Horrific.

00:24:41.340 That was the misinformation they fed to their viewers.

00:24:44.120 But now, now he wants to say it was all about the trust of experts, Mark.

00:24:48.600 And he's going to be the one to correct that imbalance.

00:24:52.040 I looked like that lady from MSNBC a little bit.

00:24:54.780 Pardon me, MSNOW.

00:24:56.760 Yeah.

00:24:57.260 Right.

00:24:57.360 Look, and you know this as well as anyone.

00:25:01.640 The way to succeed as a communicator is to be true to who you really are and what you believe and to be consistent.

00:25:09.560 And he's going to have to explain as he goes forward.

00:25:12.500 If he does want to build trust, which is what they claim they want to do, he's going to have to explain moments like that and how they're consistent with the notion of the current ethos that they're espousing.

00:25:22.780 He ran into the leftist narrative because it was negative about Trump.

00:25:28.880 He ran to it as has his network from the start of Trump's emergence as a national political figure.

00:25:35.200 So there is zero reason to believe that the new I'm listening to you, the common man, Tony Dokopoul, is going to do any better.

00:25:41.260 And by the way, it's all the same producers there who have been there.

00:25:44.160 And those are the ones who really generate the content.

00:25:46.320 The anchor in that role is more of just a presenter.

00:25:50.360 Yeah.

00:25:50.540 CBS has always been a producer driven news division as compared to some other places, as opposed to, as you said, to correspondent and anchor.

00:25:58.240 And, you know, they've they've fired some people.

00:26:01.040 Some people have gone.

00:26:02.340 But I absolutely agree with you.

00:26:03.760 Unless they determine who's ready to be a fair minded person and run a different kind of shop, the the the vision that David Ellison and Barry Weiss have laid out, it's not going to be realized.

00:26:15.660 So back to Adam Carolla, who had further thoughts on why newsrooms and you've worked in a lot of them have deteriorated.

00:26:23.480 So, and in particular, gone woke.

00:26:26.060 Watch.

00:26:28.580 Women are women first. 1.00

00:26:30.740 Guys can separate.

00:26:33.160 Shall we cover Hunter Biden's laptop?

00:26:35.460 No, we should not.

00:26:37.600 Why not?

00:26:38.400 It's a news story.

00:26:40.580 It hurts our guy.

00:26:42.200 Right.

00:26:42.420 And we hate the other guy.

00:26:43.440 So it's gyno fascism.

00:26:45.140 We took women who are emotional and that's good for raising kids. 1.00

00:26:51.860 And it's good for many things.

00:26:53.800 It might be good for ratings for a while.

00:26:55.860 It's not good for journalism.

00:26:57.540 Yeah.

00:26:57.640 Okay, he's not wrong.

00:27:00.300 He's not wrong that like the feminization of the approach to news did open a door to wokeism.

00:27:06.460 It did like lead with your heart.

00:27:08.240 It's all about empathy as opposed to just like, what are the facts?

00:27:12.680 The facts are biological sex is biological sex and you cannot change it.

00:27:16.300 That's just one example.

00:27:17.180 Okay.

00:27:18.160 But here's where I am going to challenge my friend Adam.

00:27:23.280 It is not just women who have feminized newsrooms. 0.99

00:27:27.520 And here is where the crying, I promised you, comes in.

00:27:32.340 Tony Dokopoul is trying to promote his new role as the evening news anchor, you know, in what was once Dan Rather's shoes and before that Walter Cronkite.

00:27:42.740 And this video, I didn't ask for this video, Mark Halperin.

00:27:46.120 I was watching Twitter, watching X, and you know how you play one video and if it expires, another one just plays?

00:27:52.740 That is how this came to me.

00:27:54.400 It's not like we're stalking his social media.

00:27:57.440 They put this out to promote his new role as the CBS evening news anchor.

00:28:05.340 And Adam Carolla, you want to talk feminization of the newsroom?

00:28:08.760 I give you the new CBS evening news anchor in a clip he's promoting.

00:28:16.120 You said this is your favorite place in the world.

00:28:18.880 Why?

00:28:19.360 Why South Florida and Miami?

00:28:20.940 Ugh.

00:28:24.680 What?

00:28:25.080 It makes me emotional.

00:28:25.940 It's so funny.

00:28:26.760 I didn't mean anything to catch you.

00:28:28.120 You know.

00:28:28.540 Still crying.

00:28:35.040 Because you only have one childhood, right?

00:28:37.380 Whew.

00:28:38.580 Can I get a second here?

00:28:39.400 No, you're okay.

00:28:40.260 I can relate.

00:28:41.040 This is home.

00:28:41.940 Now his other eye.

00:28:43.700 Now his first eye again.

00:28:45.580 People will...

00:28:46.300 To help people understand why I have such a reaction...

00:28:48.740 Now his other eye.

00:28:55.000 Now his first eye.

00:28:56.280 Florida is where I grew up.

00:29:01.060 First eye again.

00:29:02.660 Second eye.

00:29:03.160 We didn't get a lot of sleep, so...

00:29:03.820 No, it's okay.

00:29:04.920 My grandmother's here.

00:29:06.400 My father, my mother, my aunts and uncles, cousins.

00:29:09.560 And it's where I would have spent all of my childhood.

00:29:13.700 But we left because of my father.

00:29:17.600 He got in trouble with business.

00:29:18.840 It's like, we laugh about it now, but he was a drug dealer.

00:29:21.760 But the reason it's so emotional for me is because I feel like I was robbed of the full Miami experience.

00:29:31.860 So when I come back, I'm always like...

00:29:34.840 Oh my God.

00:29:36.940 A no.

00:29:37.500 It's a no.

00:29:38.460 It's a no.

00:29:39.700 Mark Halpern.

00:29:40.320 I thought for sure that story was going to end in...

00:29:43.100 And they were all killed in a house fire.

00:29:45.220 I was the sole survivor.

00:29:46.600 In which case I would have excused the multiple tears that preceded it.

00:29:50.460 It turns out the dad had some problems.

00:29:52.500 I'm sorry to hear it.

00:29:53.840 The sobbing?

00:29:55.160 The repeated?

00:29:56.340 The voice quivering?

00:29:58.040 The inability to recover?

00:30:00.460 What is that?

00:30:02.400 First of all, the guy's got hella good hair.

00:30:05.240 So I give him that.

00:30:07.960 Look, it's the fact that they put it out because I don't begrudge anybody crying over their family.

00:30:14.340 I cry when I talk about my family sometimes.

00:30:16.100 No, stop.

00:30:17.100 But I wouldn't put it out.

00:30:17.760 But I wouldn't put it out.

00:30:18.600 You would never cry like that on the air.

00:30:19.640 You lie.

00:30:20.180 You're just being a nice guy.

00:30:21.120 Never.

00:30:21.260 Well, no.

00:30:21.620 I'm saying I wouldn't.

00:30:22.460 Well, I might.

00:30:23.120 But I wouldn't.

00:30:23.520 But my point is it wasn't live.

00:30:24.960 They chose to put it out.

00:30:26.000 The point you made originally.

00:30:27.360 I don't know why they chose to put it out.

00:30:29.740 It just – and the feminization of news, you know, it's in business.

00:30:36.100 It's in universities.

00:30:38.360 It's in the law.

00:30:40.680 And it is – it's a fascinating topic.

00:30:43.180 And, again, you don't need to publish everything.

00:30:46.120 You can record something and then put that on the shelf.

00:30:49.980 Yes.

00:30:50.880 I'm not going to name this person, but it reminded me after Charlie was killed, there was a certain news anchor who put out a clip.

00:30:59.900 She's not on the air anymore.

00:31:01.120 She does – I mean, she's not on the television airwave.

00:31:03.160 She does what we do now, and she put out a clip, and she promoted it on X, literally saying, here I am crying on the news of Charlie Kirk.

00:31:13.680 What the hell?

00:31:15.080 Who does that?

00:31:16.240 Who's like, here, look at me cry?

00:31:19.360 It's so manipulative and weird.

00:31:22.140 Now, I cried live, but I didn't publish anything after the fact.

00:31:27.080 Yeah, I hear you.

00:31:29.400 I also like the this thing.

00:31:30.960 I like the left, the right, the left, the right.

00:31:33.820 Over and over.

00:31:35.080 Good technique.

00:31:36.160 Don't publish it.

00:31:37.720 Put it on a hard drive.

00:31:39.560 That's – of course, he loved it.

00:31:41.480 You know at CBS they were like, it shows your personality.

00:31:46.200 It shows heart.

00:31:48.020 You know, to me, it shows you're feminine.

00:31:51.180 You're effeminate.

00:31:52.540 You're not tough.

00:31:53.840 You're not grizzled.

00:31:55.160 You don't strike me as a shoe-leather reporter, which is what I want in my evening news anchor. 0.99

00:32:00.720 But let's be honest.

00:32:01.620 Let's be fair to Tony.

00:32:02.860 You got a guy over at ABC who's putting the clothespins on the back of his fake fireman's jacket so he can look like a fireman when he goes to cover the floods.

00:32:11.580 David Muir, who's much more worried about the size of his waist than he is the accuracy of his broadcast.

00:32:17.540 And if I'm being totally honest, Mark Halpern, before, you know, Nora O'Donnell and whoever preceded her – nobody knows who the hell's been in that anchor chair for a while now – Dan Rather, he was also obsessed with his looks.

00:32:32.720 This infamous clip of him worrying about his damn jacket and whether he's going to wear the collar up or wear the collar down tells us a lot about the state of evening news even before this guy got to the desk.

00:32:44.760 Remember this?

00:32:45.800 Yeah.

00:32:45.980 The question is whether we can do it without the coat.

00:32:49.900 Hi, folks.

00:32:51.320 Without the coat?

00:32:52.280 Take a look and find out.

00:32:54.600 Jeff would prefer to do it without the coat.

00:32:56.360 It's going to be cold, but –

00:32:57.380 That's good.

00:32:57.700 You know what?

00:32:58.460 The green is good.

00:32:59.980 Is it?

00:33:00.500 Green is good.

00:33:01.580 Okay.

00:33:01.880 You don't need a scar.

00:33:03.080 You don't need a scar?

00:33:04.340 You don't think so?

00:33:05.080 Now, let's try it without it.

00:33:06.500 If we wear the coat between now and then, I think that we're going to be all right.

00:33:10.660 All right, good.

00:33:11.400 Good.

00:33:11.700 Because that looks very nice.

00:33:12.460 Now, does that look good?

00:33:13.280 It looks just a little hot on this side, Tom.

00:33:16.580 The broadcast is not for another 45 minutes.

00:33:19.080 Right.

00:33:19.620 So –

00:33:20.200 Temperature?

00:33:21.700 The wind will be up and the temperature will be down.

00:33:23.700 Yes.

00:33:24.520 What do you think?

00:33:25.500 But it looks so windblown this way.

00:33:27.500 I mean, I think the coat looks fine.

00:33:28.660 I agree with you to coach subtle.

00:33:29.700 Nobody's on it yet.

00:33:30.700 But what do you think?

00:33:31.320 What you do, if you wear the coat, take the collar down.

00:33:34.540 Definitely not.

00:33:35.860 You wear the collar up?

00:33:36.560 I've seen this in years.

00:33:39.020 Nobody wears trench coat with the collar down.

00:33:41.320 I think we ought to try to do it without it.

00:33:43.040 Okay.

00:33:43.440 That's what I honestly think.

00:33:46.320 That's what I honestly think.

00:33:48.360 The vanity.

00:33:49.640 That's really what these jobs have turned into.

00:33:51.640 Just an exercise in vanity, which is the least attractive quality, especially in a man. 1.00

00:33:59.300 I'm sorry, but it is.

00:34:01.080 Like, you know, if you look at that clip, maybe they're spot on in picking this guy for the role.

00:34:06.700 More crying, more worrying about, you know, the poor whipped Haitians telling lies just as long as you look empathetic and soft. 0.95

00:34:16.500 Do you not have the John Edwards clip of him doing his hair?

00:34:21.020 That's the best.

00:34:22.300 Oh, yeah?

00:34:22.720 You know that one?

00:34:23.820 That's another one.

00:34:24.560 You know what I'm talking about?

00:34:25.560 Yes, of course.

00:34:26.640 I mean, what do these men have in common?

00:34:28.200 They're leftists.

00:34:29.100 They're all leftists.

00:34:31.440 And they've got good hair.

00:34:33.260 Those are the two through lines.

00:34:36.200 You forgot also Katie Couric had that job. 1.00

00:34:39.500 Oh, yeah.

00:34:40.200 I think I intentionally blocked that out.

00:34:42.220 Yeah.

00:34:42.880 Can I tell you something?

00:34:43.920 I'm not like a fan of Katie Couric's anchoring, but she's tougher than any of them. 0.93

00:34:48.400 She's tougher than any one of those guys.

00:34:50.840 She is very tough.

00:34:52.020 I agree.

00:34:52.400 I concur with that.

00:34:53.820 That's the one they should have had cry in a segment because women are expected to be soft. 1.00

00:35:00.980 And we don't need another crying, feminine, worried about his waist news anchor in the evening news chair. 1.00

00:35:07.280 Okay, let's keep going.

00:35:09.940 Things in Minnesota are not going particularly well.

00:35:13.920 Tim Walz has announced he's not going to run for re-election.

00:35:17.580 And now we're learning, and DHS has swarmed 2,000 agents into Minneapolis to try to find out what's happening at these daycare centers and elsewhere, whether and how bad the fraud is.

00:35:26.980 And then our pal Rich McHugh over at NewsNation was just calling attention to this this morning.

00:35:36.060 There is—hold on, I want to try to find it.

00:35:38.340 There's a—I've got the report here someplace.

00:35:40.960 There is—here it is.

00:35:42.960 Try to follow this.

00:35:47.340 Department of Human Services in Minnesota, and they've got a commissioner, and they are investigating whether a group within the Human Services Group,

00:35:58.860 called the Behavioral Health Administration, committed any sort of fraud.

00:36:04.020 And this is an organization, the one, the behavioral health, that helps manage hundreds of millions of dollars in grants to groups that are supposed to be preventing and treating mental health and substance use disorders in Minnesota.

00:36:23.880 Okay?

00:36:24.680 So behavioral health oversees millions of—hundreds of millions of grants to groups saying they're going to help people with their mental health and substance abuse.

00:36:32.280 And its boss, you know, the agency it's part of, Human Services, has decided it needs an audit.

00:36:38.800 And the person doing the auditing is now on camera accusing them, like this is the own, you know, the subset of their agency, of defrauding her as she conducted her investigation of her group, of backdating documents, et cetera.

00:36:59.120 I'm going to play you the sound bite. 0.99

00:37:00.340 Watch this.

00:37:00.720 We noted that during the course of our audit, we identified a number of documents that the Behavioral Health Administration either backdated or created after our audit began in response to our request for information.

00:37:16.420 Because we identified a number of different documents that, again, had been created in response to our request for documentation, or that had actually been created and then backdated,

00:37:27.140 we do have some questions about the validity of the documentation we were provided.

00:37:32.120 But I do want to talk about what a serious issue this is and how it is, frankly, unacceptable for the agencies we audit to do this type of activity.

00:37:45.000 Okay.

00:37:46.100 This is yet another problem for Minnesota and Tim Walsh.

00:37:49.580 This is not the daycare.

00:37:50.960 This is yet another problem.

00:37:52.120 Behavioral Health and Substance Abuse Centers, where the own Minnesota auditor is saying, and this is in the write-up of it,

00:38:00.400 you fabricated documentation to try to satisfy my audit.

00:38:05.060 You backdated documents.

00:38:07.060 You came up with false justifications for spending that were bullshit.

00:38:11.860 This is all taxpayer money, Mark.

00:38:15.060 So Tim Walsh is out there trying to blame his, I'm not going to run for re-election, literally on Donald Trump and his meanness.

00:38:24.900 And I'll play you the sound bite.

00:38:26.000 He tried to pivot to January 6th as some sort of relevant thing, defending his decision.

00:38:32.560 And it appears that there is fraud rampant in virtually every organization under Tim Walsh's control, Mark.

00:38:40.900 He better hope that the investigative reporting bandwidth of the state is filled up with other things.

00:38:47.760 Because even though he's not running for election, he is staying in office.

00:38:52.120 And we've seen now what just human logic and human nature would tell you is the tip of the iceberg.

00:38:59.080 And whether he's implicated in things or simply was a bad steward of the taxpayer dollars, it's not just state money.

00:39:05.840 It's federal money as well.

00:39:08.080 Like I said, he'll be fortunate if the parade moves on as opposed to digs in because there's going to be a lot of fertile areas to look at.

00:39:16.700 The question of how could this stewardship have occurred for a guy who put himself forward as one of the best governors in America?

00:39:23.600 Here's just one example out in that same behavioral health unit.

00:39:29.160 Auditors found an organization that received $672,000 for a single month of work, one month of work, but could not provide auditors with detailed invoices or program participant data to support the work.

00:39:47.420 The total grant agreement for that group was $1.6 million.

00:39:51.600 So it's just that's one little group that got money for this behavioral health nonsense that appears to have been made up.

00:39:58.260 Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, quoting here from an article from KSTP, appear deeply troubled by the revelation that department staff backdated or created documents that did not exist before the auditor's probe.

00:40:10.600 They quote a local Republican saying it's a shocking report by the legislative auditor and it shows a culture of pervasive fraud, negligence and deception.

00:40:20.380 Here is how Tim Walsh would have you believe things are going.

00:40:26.060 He's explaining why he's not running for a third term, but he is absolutely not going to resign as governor.

00:40:33.260 We'll go 15 into 16.

00:40:36.040 Did you make a decision to end your campaign by yourself or did you receive pressure from Democratic Dallas?

00:40:41.420 This is a decision that I make and make with my family and certainly I think, as I said, it's the right decision.

00:40:48.700 I'll note, I think it's appropriate we're here today.

00:40:51.220 The war that's being waged against Minnesota, you're seeing it.

00:40:54.080 We have a ridiculous surge of apparently 2,000 people not coordinating with us that are for a show of the cameras.

00:41:02.000 I'm going to note to all of you, today is January 6th.

00:41:04.980 There's no debate what happened.

00:41:06.100 The President of the United States led an insurrection against a fair election to try and overturn that.

00:41:11.420 Here's the thing that I'm going to ask all of you is, Republicans want to tear this state down.

00:41:17.060 Republicans want to tell you it's too dangerous to walk down the streets.

00:41:20.700 Republicans want to tell you there's nothing good comes out of Minneapolis-St. Paul.

00:41:24.560 Republicans want to tell you everybody with brown skin is stealing money or that they're not welcome here.

00:41:30.240 They want to do nothing to improve this state.

00:41:33.500 Their idea of improving this state is being a parrot for Donald Trump agreeing to everything that he agreed with.

00:41:40.200 Well, here's what I'm going to tell you.

00:41:41.420 It ain't happening.

00:41:42.640 I'm not going anywhere.

00:41:43.980 And you can make all your requests for me to resign over my dead body.

00:41:47.440 Will that happen?

00:41:48.520 I will fight this thing till the very end to make this state better.

00:41:52.000 And the question that I think they need to decide is, is when did the guy in the White House resign?

00:41:57.040 When does he take accountability for what he did?

00:41:59.140 Because it isn't going to happen here.

00:42:01.560 All right, Mark.

00:42:02.360 This appears to me in political terms to be best defense is a good offense.

00:42:05.980 What's the reality?

00:42:08.120 Well, it's like, I don't know if you remember Nathan Thurm from Saturday Night Live when he, you know, he would say, you're the one who's corrupt.

00:42:14.080 Someone should be investigating you.

00:42:15.160 I do wonder if he believes it, right?

00:42:17.780 I wonder whether he believes what he's saying or it's purely just an act because he's saying it with such emotion and passion and determination.

00:42:27.140 But to pivot from accountability for his stewardship of the state and the taxpayer dollars to blame it all on Donald Trump is quite something.

00:42:36.360 But as I said, just as an observer of human beings and of the subspecies of human beings called politicians, I wonder whether he believes what he's saying or not.

00:42:45.160 Here's the thing.

00:42:47.240 This fraud didn't happen just in December 2025.

00:42:52.120 This has been going on for years under his leadership.

00:42:56.000 And that Rich McHugh story about the behavioral health unit within Department of Human Services in Minnesota, he pointed out there are tweets from, and I pulled them up, April 2024 from Minnesota staff.

00:43:12.160 It's, it's, it's the, the account is from Minnesota staff at DHS.

00:43:15.880 And they say, they're asking, can the commissioner explain why Department of Human Services has been obstructing data requests in violation of government laws?

00:43:26.200 Why are staff complaining that leaders are forcing them to delete records, backdate contracts, and cover up wrongdoing?

00:43:33.300 Why does the Department of Human Services ignore requests from the news?

00:43:37.620 Okay, so this is April of 24.

00:43:41.240 You know, maybe he was too busy trying to buddy up to the Biden administration at the time, or Joe Biden thinking possibly there'd be a role for him in the next administration.

00:43:51.340 This would have been before Kamala Harris took over as the nominee, but this is just, it's a, it's a worm's, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:44:02.840 It's a, it's a hornet's nest because it's just the one right now.

00:44:07.080 Like you pull the one, the one bee flew out, now another bee is flowing out.

00:44:10.480 Now it's a whole swarm coming out on this Somali fraud and other fraud. 1.00

00:44:13.820 And I think it's going to, it's going to go state to state.

00:44:17.320 Trump's already now threatening California.

00:44:19.700 He's going to take a look over there.

00:44:21.460 And let's face it, it's going to be largely in blue states because it's the same thing as Minnesota, I'd venture to say,

00:44:26.700 where they're worried about looking into anything that looks like harassment of a minority community.

00:44:32.720 In this case, it has to do with immigration and immigrants who are taking advantage of us, not, not skin color, but immigrants who are taking advantage of hardworking Americans. 0.90

00:44:42.360 Yeah.

00:44:42.860 The governor now is trying to convince people as he declines to change his course and does run for a term that he is a zeal for ferreting out the wrongdoing.

00:44:51.580 And that's belied by two things.

00:44:53.000 It's belied by the fact that he was in charge when all this was happening and there's, you know, there were indictments.

00:44:58.020 There was clear indication he showed no zeal to ferret this out for the reasons probably likely that you said.

00:45:03.900 But the other thing is, I just don't find his performance compelling.

00:45:07.160 If you're spending more time talking about Donald Trump and being defiant about not resigning, then you are laying out a detailed plan rather than just some rhetoric about getting to the bottom of it.

00:45:17.100 It's just hard to believe that there's a determination here.

00:45:19.780 And I think there must have been horrible poll numbers to get him to decide he wasn't going to run for re-election because that's what he was about.

00:45:27.940 Somebody must have done a poll and found that his chances of winning, even in a blue state, were pretty miserable.

00:45:33.300 Are now zip.

00:45:34.980 Let's talk about Venezuela for a minute.

00:45:37.400 You say Marco Rubio's stock is rising.

00:45:40.720 He was in that Vanity Fair interview saying if J.D. Vance runs, he's our nominee.

00:45:46.440 So is it settled or is it not?

00:45:49.160 I think it's settled.

00:45:50.040 They're genuine friends.

00:45:51.060 Sometimes in politics, people say they're friends and they're not.

00:45:53.500 But these guys are.

00:45:55.180 And Rubio's understands the reality.

00:45:57.660 He's not going to leapfrog over Vance if Vance decides to run.

00:46:01.660 But the future will probably will take care of itself.

00:46:06.040 But what I traced on NextUp, and I think it's just an incredible human story, is 10 years ago, this guy was calling Donald Trump, or Donald Trump was calling him Little Marco.

00:46:15.420 And he was calling Trump a fraud.

00:46:18.300 And he was making jokes about the size of Donald Trump's hands.

00:46:22.080 And now he is so well thought of in general in the administration, like Henry Kissinger, first person since Kissinger, to have both the jobs of National Security Advisor and Secretary of State.

00:46:32.720 And on this Latin America stuff, his influence is even greater because of his familiarity with the region as the son of Cuban immigrants, as someone very familiar with Latin American dictators and the culture and the language and the rhythms of this whole thing.

00:46:47.000 So he's extremely powerful right now and extremely respected.

00:46:51.940 And his ties to Vance, Trump, Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller, he's just rare to see this.

00:46:59.100 And he doesn't have very many enemies, even on Capitol Hill, where he served, where people are generally pissed off at the White House.

00:47:05.580 He's very well respected, very well thought of.

00:47:07.560 So this is a moment for him that's quite unusual in big time Washington politics to be hugely influential and very secure in his position, very well liked by his colleagues.

00:47:18.460 It's unusual.

00:47:19.240 And he's doing it at a time when the administration's foreign policy is just an overdrive.

00:47:25.500 I mean, he lists 20 different hotspots around the world, including Venezuela, where there's a lot at stake and where he's got the hand on the tiller.

00:47:33.980 He was confirmed unanimously by the Senate to this post, which is very unusual for the Trump appointees, since you've had a couple say, like, I regret voting for you.

00:47:45.060 And he said your regret is a badge of honor.

00:47:47.180 But it is interesting to me when you think about 2028, Mark, because, OK, well, Marco says if J.D. wants it, it's J.D.'s.

00:47:57.920 There's going to be a fight within the party because the more neocony right prefers Marco Rubio, who's I wouldn't call him a neocon, but he's certainly more neocon friendly.

00:48:08.060 Yep. And J.D. Vance is not.

00:48:11.580 And I think, you know, the more isolationist, non-interventionalist right is definitely going to prefer J.D.

00:48:18.720 And I've already seen some of my more neocony friends online say, hold on, hold on, hold, slow your roll.

00:48:26.460 It's not going to be a coronation of J.D. Vance.

00:48:28.360 Like, they're much more interested in Marco Rubio.

00:48:30.280 But if you're Marco Rubio, even though your stock is rising and, you know, everyone likes him, how do you see it?

00:48:38.920 Like, I think he'd probably do better with a general electorate than J.D.

00:48:41.980 But with the Republican base, who's going to win?

00:48:44.100 Yeah. I think there'll be a ticket.

00:48:45.980 I don't see any scenario where Rubio runs against Vance.

00:48:49.540 Now, look, the economy's bad.

00:48:51.420 Everything's kind of up in the air.

00:48:52.420 But I think Vance will run.

00:48:53.380 And I think he could do an unprecedented thing and pick Rubio as his running mate in 2027.

00:48:58.800 Let them raise money together and raise $2 billion, literally, before the Democrats can pick their nominee.

00:49:05.300 Get Trump's endorsement.

00:49:06.440 I'm not saying that's definitely going to happen, but I could see it happening.

00:49:09.800 Rubio's got young kids.

00:49:10.820 He's a young guy.

00:49:11.620 He doesn't need to run in four years or eight years.

00:49:14.240 He can wait.

00:49:15.300 And if you talk to people in the party, again, things can change.

00:49:18.940 But where we are now, it's very difficult to imagine someone, particularly a member of the president's cabinet, successfully mounting a challenge to J.D. Vance.

00:49:28.160 And lastly, on the point you raised about ideology, Vance is talking lately like an interventionist, not an isolationist, not a MAGA first, America first.

00:49:36.820 He's singing from the hymnal of saying, here's why we're doing all this activist stuff.

00:49:41.500 And Rubio is talking less like a neocon these days.

00:49:44.920 So I think they can mesh that up pretty well because it's the models Trump, which is no foreign wars of deep entanglement, no forever wars, no American boots on the ground, but using American military and technology to project strength around the world.

00:50:02.420 I think they're both on board for that.

00:50:03.880 I would love to see that ticket, but I don't know that it'll happen because if I think about why Trump picked J.D., one of the arguments that was made to him was J.D.'s, he's assassination insurance that no one's going to want to take out Trump and wind up with J.D. Vance.

00:50:23.580 Like they're not going to think they're going to do better with a J.D. than a Trump.

00:50:28.900 And I don't know whether that same rule would apply in the heads of those who think about these things if Marco were the VP.

00:50:37.280 I think he would be the preferred choice of many.

00:50:40.480 And I don't know.

00:50:41.820 I'm not sure.

00:50:42.480 I love the guy, but I just I'm trying to think like if I were the person who gets to make these selections, that's one of the things you got to think about.

00:50:48.980 Anyway, we'll find out soon enough, Mark.

00:50:50.980 We will.

00:50:55.320 I really do think they'll end up together.

00:50:57.660 And, you know, it's a lot like Clinton Gore.

00:50:59.860 A lot of people thought, well, Al Gore is more qualified than Bill Clinton.

00:51:02.640 But the alchemy of the two of them together, two younger guys with young kids, it just worked for the voters, both in the Democratic Party and more broadly.

00:51:11.740 I think this could be very comparable to that.

00:51:14.920 All right.

00:51:15.480 Well, great to see you, my friend.

00:51:16.640 Thank you for being here.

00:51:17.560 Thank you.

00:51:17.980 Happy New Year again.

00:51:19.060 See you soon.

00:51:19.460 You too.

00:51:20.160 Happy New Year.

00:51:20.700 A deep dive into the issue of UFOs or UAPs.

00:51:26.940 So I can safely say that at times, many of us feel at some point in our day sluggish, bloated, or not quite ourselves.

00:51:34.500 Modern life is hard.

00:51:35.840 Processed foods, too little sleep, endless stress.

00:51:38.920 All of it can disrupt your gut, sap energy, and weaken immune health.

00:51:43.620 Your body's not failing.

00:51:45.000 It might just be starving for the right fuel.

00:51:47.120 Let me tell you about Armra Colustrum, which they say can help provide sharper energy, less bloating, faster workout recovery, stronger hair, and glowing skin.

00:51:56.640 It's nature's original superfood, colustrum.

00:51:59.920 With over 400-plus bioactive nutrients, they say, can fortify your entire gut wall, nourish your microbiome, balance immune health, ignite metabolism, and fuel performance.

00:52:11.120 Armra is not processed.

00:52:12.720 It's a pure, humanely, and sustainably sourced whole food powerhouse.

00:52:16.380 They say four daily scoops will rebuild you from the inside out for infinite benefits.

00:52:22.260 Here's a special offer, too.

00:52:24.140 30% off your first subscription order.

00:52:27.000 Go to armra, A-R-M-R-A dot com slash Megan, or just enter M-E-G-Y-N to get 30% off your first subscription order.

00:52:35.420 That's A-R-M-R-A dot com slash Megan. 0.99

00:52:38.620 Hey, Ontario, come on down to BetMGM Casino and check out our newest exclusive, the Price is Right Fortune Pick.

00:52:46.640 Don't miss out.

00:52:47.440 Play exciting casino games based on the iconic game show only at BetMGM.

00:52:51.620 Access to the Price is Right Fortune Pick is only available at BetMGM Casino.

00:52:54.680 BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly.

00:52:56.860 19 plus to wager Ontario only.

00:52:58.400 Please play responsibly.

00:52:59.460 If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you,

00:53:02.100 please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge.

00:53:06.800 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario.

00:53:10.260 What matters most to you?

00:53:12.740 Is it unforgettable adventures?

00:53:15.300 Connections with lifelong friends?

00:53:17.880 Peaceful moments of reflection?

00:53:20.280 Feelings of joy and freedom you can't wait to experience again and again?

00:53:25.120 Or is it the vehicles that help you make all those special moments possible?

00:53:29.540 Whatever your answer is, Toyota is here to bring you closer to the things that matter to you.

00:53:34.860 Because they matter to us too.

00:53:37.500 Toyota.

00:53:38.360 For what matters most.

00:53:44.040 There is breaking news right now, which I want to bring to you out of Minneapolis.

00:53:48.740 As you know, we reported to you yesterday and also this morning on AM Update.

00:53:53.200 Trump has surged 2,000 troops into Minneapolis, ICE agents, not troops, to go and DHS personnel investigate the fraud that has been coming to light day by day in that city.

00:54:07.740 Well, we've just received this from a deputy secretary at Homeland Security named Trisha McLaughlin, who we've mentioned before.

00:54:18.660 She's assistant secretary of the DHS, who says today ICE officers in Minneapolis were conducting targeted operations when rioters began blocking ICE officers.

00:54:28.140 And one of these violent rioters weaponized her vehicle attempting to run over our law enforcement officers in an attempt to kill them, an act of domestic terrorism.

00:54:39.420 An ICE officer fearing for his life, the lives of his fellow law enforcement, and the safety of the public fired defensive shots.

00:54:46.760 He used his training and saved his own life and that of his fellow officers.

00:54:51.240 The alleged perpetrator was hit and is deceased.

00:54:54.240 The ICE officers who were hurt are expected to make full recoveries.

00:54:57.280 This is the direct consequence of constant attacks and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel and encourage rampant assaults on our law enforcement.

00:55:07.460 These men and women who are simply enforcing the law on the books are facing a 1,300 percent increase in assaults against them and an 8,000 percent increase in death threats.

00:55:18.880 This is an evolving situation, and we will give the public more information as soon as it becomes available.

00:55:22.520 Also, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frye weighing in, saying, I'm aware of a shooting involving an ICE agent at 34th and Portland.

00:55:31.360 The presence of federal immigration enforcement agents is causing chaos in our city.

00:55:35.280 Is it really the presence or is it your unmanaged city from fraudsters to illegals running loose in Minneapolis, sir? 0.99

00:55:44.100 He goes on to say, we're demanding ICE to leave the city immediately.

00:55:47.040 We stand rock solid with our immigrant and refugee communities.

00:55:50.380 Here is some video just in that was posted to X by a poster named Gunther Eagleman, who goes by Gunther Eagleman.

00:55:59.440 His caption is, chaos erupts in Minnesota, tear gas and pepper spray unleashed on radical protesters at, he claims this is the ICE shooting scene,

00:56:08.900 as they hurl snowballs, block cars, and riot against law enforcement.

00:56:12.460 Let's watch it for a minute.

00:56:13.260 Okay, so he grabbed this from Freedom News TV, which is the only credit for this video.

00:56:26.580 It's chaos, you can see the yellow pepper spray or tear gas leaning in the air.

00:56:31.120 Kill someone else, they're saying.

00:56:37.640 This appears to be after the incident.

00:56:40.480 Kill someone else! 0.60

00:56:45.300 Cutting to a different scene.

00:56:47.160 People are blocking, looks like the egress of a DHS vehicle.

00:56:50.960 They're standing across the road so he can't go, and there's a, I guess, a DHS officer who's spraying them in the face with something that doesn't look very effective because they're not moving at all.

00:57:03.600 It just, it can't be tear gas or pepper spray because truly it's having no effect on them.

00:57:08.700 Now they're grabbing them one by one to clear the path for the ICE vehicle to leave.

00:57:12.860 They're standing right in the middle, right in front of it.

00:57:14.860 Here's a protester literally on the grill of the DHS white SUV.

00:57:18.800 This is very dangerous business.

00:57:27.400 You just don't do this.

00:57:28.480 The cops are trying to move him out of the way.

00:57:31.200 They're spraying them to try to get them to move.

00:57:33.140 People have umbrellas to guard their faces.

00:57:40.140 DHS is trying to push them out of the way so that their vehicle can move.

00:57:46.480 They don't have enough officers.

00:57:48.800 The people keep infiltrating the road.

00:57:52.480 Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! 0.68

00:58:04.200 Finally, the SUV moves forward.

00:58:12.040 This appears to be aftermath of the protesters. All right, we can get out.

00:58:15.820 This is going to become a thing for sure.

00:58:18.520 You know Tim Walz is two minutes from taking to the airwaves to blame Donald Trump for the innocent loss of life.

00:58:25.020 Well, you know what? You shouldn't do.

00:58:26.600 You really shouldn't get in the path of DHS, and you definitely should not try to run them over with your car.

00:58:32.340 I think most of us, if that, in fact, is what happened, would expect to be shot dead.

00:58:36.200 If you take your vehicle, which is a dangerous instrument under the law,

00:58:40.400 and you try to run someone over, which is a direct provocation and attack on law enforcement,

00:58:47.920 you should expect deadly force to be used against you.

00:58:51.480 That's what DHS is saying happened.

00:58:53.600 I wouldn't be surprised if this is caught on tape, because these people were taping it.

00:58:57.640 There were independent news agencies there getting some of the chaos on camera.

00:59:02.220 And we saw this happen to DHS in another city.

00:59:04.420 Was it Charlotte?

00:59:05.220 Where the woman tried to run over the DHS agent,

00:59:08.920 and they unloaded a firearm against her or shot her, and she got shot.

00:59:14.120 She lived and she drove herself to the hospital. 0.98

00:59:15.980 Do you guys remember this report we brought you a month or so ago?

00:59:19.520 She lived, but you cannot try to attack DHS with your truck.

00:59:25.840 And by the way, if they had run over that guy right in front of their vehicle,

00:59:31.720 he wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on either.

00:59:34.220 Like, it's called assuming the risk.

00:59:36.800 You don't intentionally try to murder somebody with your truck,

00:59:41.120 whether you're a civilian or a DHS agent.

00:59:43.960 I mean, I can say more for the DHS's restraint than I can for the protester,

00:59:48.660 if what Homeland Security is saying is true,

00:59:51.680 that actually there was someone who used their vehicle to try to hurt or kill ICE agents.

00:59:59.180 This is so unfortunate.

01:00:00.300 There are, what, 34,000?

01:00:02.760 I think that's what we reported, 34,000 illegals there in Minneapolis.

01:00:09.460 And some huge portion of them have been convicted of crimes or accused of crimes.

01:00:14.860 And Trump, slowly but surely, city by city, is trying to clean the situation up.

01:00:19.660 And by the way, a large faction of them in Minneapolis is also accused of committing fraud.

01:00:25.240 Um, whether they're legal or not, I don't know.

01:00:28.880 It kind of doesn't matter.

01:00:29.860 Either way, they're not American. 0.98

01:00:31.620 And they're stealing from American citizens who work hard.

01:00:36.400 Uh, this is going to become a thing, for sure.

01:00:38.940 We'll stay on it.

01:00:39.980 Now I want to turn to the schedule segment.

01:00:42.100 Uh, it's the age-old question that has fascinated humans for centuries and continues to.

01:00:46.680 Are we alone in the universe or even on our own planet?

01:00:50.780 My next guest says, not only are UFOs, or now they're called UAPs, unidentified anomalous

01:00:59.400 phenomena, that's hard to remember, but UAPs, real, but the government has allegedly been

01:01:06.280 aware of them for decades and running a disinformation campaign to make you feel like an idiot if you 0.52

01:01:13.360 believe reports about them.

01:01:15.420 David Grush is a former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer and senior intelligence official.

01:01:20.780 He was his agency's co-lead in UAP investigation and, quote, transmedium object analysis and

01:01:30.060 reporting, was reporting to the Pentagon's UAP task force as well.

01:01:34.160 In 2023, Grush filed a whistleblower complaint asserting that the United States has been operating

01:01:40.500 a, quote, multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program, meaning we're

01:01:47.760 taking what we find, vehicles, and trying to figure out how they operated, and that Congress has been

01:01:54.420 kept in the dark about large portions of the program.

01:01:58.640 He later testified under oath before the House Oversight Committee, drawing national attention

01:02:03.720 when he made this claim here.

01:02:05.760 Watch.

01:02:05.980 If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots

01:02:12.940 who piloted this craft?

01:02:15.060 As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these

01:02:19.900 recoveries, yeah.

01:02:21.160 Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics?

01:02:24.780 Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I

01:02:28.560 talked to that are currently still on the program.

01:02:30.380 So he's alleging that we have crafts and we have non-human biologics from those crafts and

01:02:40.940 that the American people are being kept in the dark about it.

01:02:43.720 And he is not alone.

01:02:45.580 He is not alone.

01:02:46.380 Now, Pentagon officials have publicly denied that there's any verified evidence of non-human

01:02:50.780 intelligence or secret programs of this kind.

01:02:52.980 They've been denying it for 80 years.

01:02:54.780 But now a new documentary called The Age of Disclosure is taking center stage.

01:03:00.660 It's extraordinary, examining decades of this alleged secrecy.

01:03:05.700 And they have everyone in this film.

01:03:08.900 The film features interviews with 34 former and current government officials, including

01:03:14.440 Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Representative Anna Paulina Luna, who is also coming on in

01:03:20.440 just a moment, who claim the U.S. has long been concealing evidence of non-human intelligence

01:03:28.320 and UAPs.

01:03:29.540 Here's a part of the trailer.

01:03:32.240 Humanity is not the only intelligence in the universe.

01:03:34.740 Humanity is not the only intelligent species.

01:03:37.120 We are absolutely not alone.

01:03:38.980 Non-human intelligence exists.

01:03:40.600 UAPs are real. 0.55

01:03:42.040 They're here.

01:03:42.900 And they're not human.

01:03:44.640 I have seen with my own eyes non-human craft and non-human beings. 0.98

01:03:48.860 This is so secret.

01:03:51.540 Very, very few people in our entire government have been allowed access to it.

01:03:56.300 Even presidents have been operating on a need-to-know basis.

01:03:59.500 But that begins to ramp out of control.

01:04:01.540 It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees.

01:04:05.620 You better be careful about a government that doesn't trust its people.

01:04:08.640 Because there's no telling what they'll pull on you.

01:04:11.860 That's extraordinary.

01:04:12.940 Let's get into it.

01:04:13.600 David joins me now.

01:04:14.380 David, thank you so much for your service and for being here.

01:04:17.860 Thanks, Mel.

01:04:18.920 Excuse me.

01:04:19.660 Thanks, Megan.

01:04:20.940 Thank you for having me on.

01:04:22.420 No worries.

01:04:23.720 This is like a crazy story and a stunning story and disturbing.

01:04:27.820 And I have to tell you, I've always been sort of open-minded to this issue, but more skeptical.

01:04:34.220 And my skepticism is gone, having watched The Age of Disclosure.

01:04:38.620 It's incredibly well done.

01:04:40.460 And they've got everybody.

01:04:41.640 I mean, all of the, like, astrophysicists and extremely well-educated and accomplished scientists who have been investigating this from the start.

01:04:52.520 Well, not the start because it was 80 years ago.

01:04:54.260 But in recent decades, on camera, on the record, saying as much as they can.

01:05:00.040 And the director of the film has been making the rounds saying the only reason he was able to get so many people to participate is because they felt there was safety in numbers and that they couldn't either fire everyone or worse.

01:05:12.600 Because a lot of these guys, these are distinguished guys served in the Air Force like yourself or served in the Pentagon, served all over the armed forces.

01:05:19.700 A lot of these guys are actually worried not just about their careers getting killed, but about themselves getting killed.

01:05:25.820 I mean, set it up for us on the stakes of the number of people who went on camera and actually started saying as much as they could without violating classified restrictions.

01:05:36.980 Certainly, that's a real fear, and we can certainly get into that.

01:05:41.360 Age of Disclosure was, you know, a project I didn't fully participate in.

01:05:45.760 However, do I do applaud the effort in these individuals for at least coming forward and speaking?

01:05:50.960 And like you, I was a very skeptical person.

01:05:54.000 I was certainly open to the topic.

01:05:56.820 I was interested in space and science in a very precocious way as a child.

01:06:01.220 I ended up studying physics, and the Air Force gave me a full-ride scholarship.

01:06:06.040 And I was obviously open to the topic, but I was in positions of high trust in the government at the most extreme levels,

01:06:17.060 having walked the halls of the West Wing, personally handled the presidential daily intelligence brief,

01:06:21.800 and had some of the same broad accesses that the president and his cabinet has had over the years,

01:06:27.260 even as a young man across multiple administrations.

01:06:31.360 I figured when I was eventually brought into this topic, working for the UAP task force,

01:06:37.880 oh, I would know this exists.

01:06:40.780 Somebody would have slipped and said something to me.

01:06:42.860 At the time, I was briefed to over 90% of all black programs in the Department of Defense

01:06:47.920 and also the intelligence community.

01:06:51.720 And I had an arrogant opinion of the topic.

01:06:55.200 I was certainly open to the idea, but I figured I haven't seen any evidence,

01:07:00.280 and I would have been briefed into those kind of things because I had a need to know at the time.

01:07:07.120 So I came into it very similar to you, but open-minded.

01:07:11.120 And then what specifically were you assigned to where you started to see actual evidence

01:07:17.100 that we've been researching this for 80 years, that we do have crafts recovered,

01:07:25.040 that we have, quote, biologics recovered, which include some sort of other being?

01:07:32.440 And what was your reaction when you started to learn this?

01:07:35.240 Yeah, I was very skeptical.

01:07:38.180 I was in my military capacity.

01:07:40.380 I had a parallel civilian intelligence career as well.

01:07:44.760 But in my military reserve capacity, I was the backup intelligence director

01:07:49.340 for the National Reconnaissance Office's operations center.

01:07:53.620 I briefed the NRO director.

01:07:55.620 That's where I handled the PDB.

01:07:57.440 And I handled essentially all sensitive activities and all that stuff.

01:08:02.020 And so the UAP task force was looking for a representative from that organization.

01:08:07.200 I came in as a skeptical eye, having briefed to a lot of U.S. programs.

01:08:14.180 And I was thinking, oh, I'll figure out what this is.

01:08:17.280 This might be some kind of U.S. program, some prosaic natural phenomenon,

01:08:21.360 some kind of adversarial program, some strategic technical surprise.

01:08:25.060 But eventually, as I started pulsing my networks, digging into archives where we'll just say

01:08:33.740 certain programs forgot to fully clean out safe drawers and finding both audiovisual

01:08:40.120 documentation and then interviewing over 40 people all the way up to, I'll just say,

01:08:46.200 the cabinet level over the course of four years.

01:08:48.900 So a combination of oral testimony, audiovisual evidence, and documentation, I became convinced

01:08:56.620 at a high confidence level that the U.S. has engaged in a crash retrieval and reverse

01:09:02.860 engineering operation of, like the trailer you just played said, non-human craft and recovering

01:09:10.620 the biologics as well.

01:09:12.960 And I say high confidence as somebody who's written assessments for the President of the

01:09:17.680 United States.

01:09:18.500 I take that assessment very seriously and that confidence level very seriously.

01:09:23.780 But as somebody who was in very high positions of trust over the years, I can assure you that

01:09:28.440 that that is an accurate statement that the U.S. government, its private partners, allies

01:09:33.500 and adversaries do have programs.

01:09:35.820 We're doing this exact thing.

01:09:38.500 Many in our audience may know you, David.

01:09:41.000 You've been kind of really celebrated for people for coming out as a whistleblower and

01:09:45.300 calling attention to the fact that our government's been hiding this from us.

01:09:47.920 And even when told to disclose what they know to investigators and to the public or to the

01:09:53.040 overseers, they haven't.

01:09:55.020 There's a deeper program called the Legacy Program that has really seems to have been trying

01:10:00.440 to hide the most shocking pieces of what we know from even the UAP task force.

01:10:06.300 Um, we've had Lou Elizondo on this show and he talked to us about some of what we'd learned.

01:10:14.020 This is years ago.

01:10:14.920 I mean, it was when we first launched the program in 2020.

01:10:17.820 But here he is as part of the documentary, Age of Disclosure, speaking to what this Legacy

01:10:25.220 program has uncovered.

01:10:27.180 I'm just going to run the SOT 54 here.

01:10:28.760 We discovered another deeply hidden and much larger UAP program.

01:10:34.100 This program was so sensitive that it was withheld from the Secretary of Defense, Congress,

01:10:46.140 and even the President of the United States.

01:10:49.060 This program is referred to as the Legacy Program.

01:10:52.760 This program had been capturing, retrieving, and reverse engineering UAPs since at least

01:11:00.240 1947.

01:11:02.000 On numerous occasions, these retrievals included the bodies of non-humans, some sort of intelligence,

01:11:10.420 intelligent being that is not human.

01:11:13.820 On numerous occasions.

01:11:15.180 I mean, that is just stunning, David.

01:11:16.280 To like people who don't follow this, he's saying they found some sort of alien beings' bodies

01:11:21.580 along with the crafts, that the government has had it for decades.

01:11:25.380 It's happened multiple times and that they're all, the whole theory of the entire movie with

01:11:30.240 all of these storied experts, these are not crackpots.

01:11:33.000 I mean, if they're crackpots, boy, they found dozens of them who have been at the highest

01:11:36.080 levels of our government over generations who are all saying, yes, this has happened.

01:11:43.000 And the reason that they keep it secret from everyone, including, they point out in the

01:11:49.740 piece, our own presidents over time, is what?

01:11:53.660 Well, it depends on the time epoch in which administration, certainly there were former

01:12:01.400 secretaries of defense and presidents that were briefed on this matter.

01:12:06.080 It depended on their level of trust that the deep state, if you will, the lifers in the

01:12:10.440 governments had with those said individuals.

01:12:13.140 And unfortunately, this subject has been a victim of a lot of, I'll call it domestic information

01:12:22.840 operations, something I discussed initially publicly in 2023.

01:12:27.120 And there's certainly been this Game of Thrones activity with multiple factions of the deep

01:12:31.240 state.

01:12:32.260 In a bipartisan manner, the Republicans and the Democrats are both guilty.

01:12:36.720 And even in a recent previous administration, in the Obama administration, there was certainly

01:12:41.220 actions taken strategically to help a particular presidential candidate, possibly if this subject

01:12:53.380 were to become normalized and they got elected president.

01:12:55.920 So there's been a lot of gamesmanship and a lot of, I'll call it house of cards type activities

01:13:02.300 in the past.

01:13:03.160 But it is true that a lot of people have been withheld.

01:13:06.540 But I found it deeply disgusting and shocking that even I was not fully accessed into these

01:13:12.440 activities.

01:13:12.860 And I did have a congressionally mandated need to know.

01:13:16.520 I investigated this on behalf of the first Trump administration and some of Trump's cabinet

01:13:21.140 members and Senator Rubio when he was, you know, a senator, now Secretary Rubio, and providing

01:13:29.140 my findings up the chain.

01:13:30.540 And I was just very disturbed to find how this was controlled, the self-linking ice cream

01:13:36.500 cone, unaccountable.

01:13:38.720 Everybody owns a piece.

01:13:40.460 Nobody owns the outcome.

01:13:42.360 And there's not really a mob boss.

01:13:44.280 The closest person we got that I was aware of was unfortunately now deceased Vice President

01:13:51.240 Dick Cheney, Darth Vader himself.

01:13:53.780 Not shocking that he was involved in this.

01:13:56.440 And essentially when he left in 2009, that was the last time that these activities really

01:14:01.760 had central leadership.

01:14:03.080 Yeah, because the film posits that, you know, the current and the last head of CIA probably

01:14:11.040 don't know.

01:14:11.760 But there's like lower branches within the CIA that have specific responsibilities and the

01:14:18.180 career employees there probably do.

01:14:21.380 And they don't look at the political appointees brought in by a president as someone to whom they

01:14:25.300 need to disclose anything.

01:14:26.440 They're like, this guy's going to be gone in, you know, a year, two years, four at the

01:14:31.060 most.

01:14:31.940 I'm not going to keep disclosing this to person after person.

01:14:34.960 I'm keeping this very dark, as my predecessor did.

01:14:38.000 And it also posits that when it's super secret, they've been offloading the research to private

01:14:44.220 contractors.

01:14:45.140 And that way they don't have to include any of these disclosures in response to FOIA requests

01:14:50.220 made of the federal government because it's been given to a private entity.

01:14:53.520 But that, too, leads to no accountability and no person over the life of, you know, 20

01:15:00.640 years who's got real responsibility because companies get sold, new people come in, and

01:15:05.380 then these companies may just exploit the materials for the latest technological advantage.

01:15:10.820 You know, who knows?

01:15:12.000 Like, I don't know, some AI development or some fast speed train development that a company

01:15:18.800 may have used the information to build a commercial advantage with.

01:15:25.620 That's totally true.

01:15:26.780 You actually accurately described how it is.

01:15:29.760 Early on the global war on terror, a lot of the money that was initially given to these

01:15:34.820 companies was essentially reallocated for overseas contingency operations.

01:15:39.500 And these contractors essentially started to do their own thing, if you will, something

01:15:45.240 called IRAD, Internal Research and Development.

01:15:48.380 And privately, they continued certain things that actually the government was trying to cancel

01:15:53.680 as it relates to the subject.

01:15:55.220 And they went off and retrieved and exploited things essentially on their own and only loosely

01:16:01.700 accountable back to their government handlers.

01:16:04.240 And it's funny you mentioned the CIA.

01:16:08.320 Naturally, there's a lot of good men and women that work there.

01:16:11.740 My wife actually was a CIA officer, and she also served in the Air Force with me. 0.77

01:16:16.760 But Chairwoman Luna in the task force and the committee staff, certainly I assisted in my

01:16:22.420 other professional capacity, helping Representative Burleson's office, did send legal interrogatives

01:16:28.580 to several agencies and private companies.

01:16:31.680 CIA was one of them, and curiously enough, CIA provided what I consider an extremely disrespectful

01:16:39.040 response.

01:16:39.860 They declined to answer our interrogatives on this matter, which is their participation in

01:16:45.780 crash retrieval operations, and just referred us to the Pentagon's Aero Office, which has a

01:16:52.840 nebulous in concerning history in itself.

01:16:55.360 And I just find it very interesting that CIA did that.

01:16:59.180 Now, I'm not saying John Ratcliffe or Michael Ellis, who's the acting general counsel and

01:17:03.200 deputy director, had a hand in that response, but they certainly are the leaders of their

01:17:07.920 organization.

01:17:09.180 John Ratcliffe has spoke positively on this issue previously, and I would hope that John

01:17:14.320 Ratcliffe was placed there by D&I Gabbard and the president to enact some reforms on the

01:17:19.240 CIA.

01:17:19.880 And unfortunately, the CIA has a lot of skeletons in its closets.

01:17:23.880 There's other things I know about that I can't talk about that are conventional national

01:17:28.240 security issues, but the crash retrieval issue, unfortunately, is certainly one of them, and

01:17:33.920 they've done a lot of concerning things.

01:17:36.840 By you and many others, is that they have literal skeletons in their closet, or whatever's inside

01:17:44.680 an alien being.

01:17:46.180 Because here's, it sounds crazy.

01:17:48.880 Did you just throw it out there short form?

01:17:50.240 It sounds crazy.

01:17:51.160 But person after person, distinguished scientist after intel person, is making the same claim,

01:17:58.080 validating the stories about Roswell, telling other stories that have happened at many military

01:18:04.400 facilities, with what appears to be a clear alien craft coming overhead, looking almost

01:18:09.100 diamond-like in shape, being huge, sitting there, hovering, coming from something like

01:18:13.260 80,000 feet, and dropping down, then hovering in a way that no vehicle that we know of right

01:18:20.060 now could possibly do, nothing invented by man.

01:18:23.400 Here is a montage from the movie of top U.S. officials talking about how all of this is relevant

01:18:30.900 because it may pose a serious national security threat.

01:18:34.460 It's Sot 42.

01:18:35.280 We've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over restricted

01:18:42.020 nuclear facilities, and it's not ours, and we don't know whose it is.

01:18:46.600 That alone, just that statement alone, deserves inquiry, deserves attention, deserves focus.

01:18:52.380 If you have objects in the sky that you cannot identify, that's a problem, because it could

01:18:57.720 be China, it could be Russia, it could be any adversary.

01:19:00.840 Well, any unexplained phenomenon could pose a national security threat, and that's the

01:19:06.620 way you have to treat those things.

01:19:08.580 There's something violating our airspace.

01:19:11.420 There's something fouling our ranges that even the people we've tasked in the executive

01:19:16.060 branch to understand this cannot provide an explanation.

01:19:20.500 So I would say, in addition to the national security implications, this has implications for

01:19:24.640 basic trust and confidence in the American government.

01:19:26.660 I just want to play one more.

01:19:29.540 Here we have a former Navy pilot describing the UAPs defying extreme weather and physics

01:19:38.760 in Sot 45.

01:19:41.300 In 2014 to 2015, we were operating off the coast of Virginia Beach, off the eastern seaport.

01:19:48.060 It was during this time that we upgraded our radar from the APG 73 to the APG 79 radar.

01:19:53.360 And this allowed us to essentially see more objects we weren't expecting to see.

01:19:58.760 And there's a particular case of one of these objects maintaining a complete stationary position

01:20:04.000 inside of 120-knot winds, essentially inside of a hurricane.

01:20:08.420 They're all going against the wind.

01:20:09.720 The wind's 120 knots from the west.

01:20:11.980 So do this thing.

01:20:13.260 It's very stated.

01:20:14.740 It just seems like they're not affected by the environment the way we are.

01:20:17.720 And there's testimonial after testimonial like that, David.

01:20:22.080 That's not unique to have an experienced fighter pilot like our men and women in the military

01:20:27.120 have been quietly coming forward and reporting on this for a long time, only to be told,

01:20:33.480 keep your mouth shut. 0.65

01:20:36.540 No, that's true.

01:20:37.360 And I have Air Force pilot friends of mine that have seen astounding things while on duty

01:20:42.520 to include a glowing triangular craft hovering above other aircraft cruising at 50,000 feet.

01:20:51.140 And I did want to point out General Clapper, the former DNI, in the documentary.

01:20:57.120 I certainly applaud him for at least speaking out in general.

01:21:01.900 He goes on, I believe.

01:21:03.020 I've only seen clips of Age of Disclosure, not the whole thing, where there was a program

01:21:07.760 when he was the director of national intelligence, where they were tracking these vehicles over

01:21:13.200 Area 51, of course, the famed classified test location.

01:21:17.880 And I'm a little bit disappointed as a fellow Air Force officer, and certainly General Clapper

01:21:22.860 rose to the ranks as three-star general.

01:21:25.920 That's all he said in the documentary, that that was a program he was aware of.

01:21:30.540 In fact, without being inappropriate, I will say that General Clapper was well aware of the

01:21:36.000 crash retrieval issue, managed the crash retrieval issue.

01:21:39.200 And when he was the DNI, USDI, and DIA director, he placed people in critical roles to manage

01:21:46.240 this issue, both publicly and I'll just say non-publicly as well.

01:21:52.180 And I'll allow the audience to still what I'm saying at the risk of being inappropriate or

01:21:57.820 going too far with my discussion.

01:22:00.720 So General Clapper, Stephanie O'Sullivan, other folks in the IC that are well aware of this issue,

01:22:07.240 that were in rooms discussing this issue, I ask you to be greater leaders on this.

01:22:13.080 I should not be the only former military officer and intelligence official that is being completely

01:22:20.580 candid with the information that they were exposed to.

01:22:23.480 So once again, James Clapper understates what he knows and what he's done, not wittingly.

01:22:30.500 I want to talk about Marco Rubio because it really is extraordinary to see him on camera

01:22:35.240 participating so, so willingly in this, so fully.

01:22:38.540 And here is how he phrased the dangers and the risks of this whole thing, especially like

01:22:44.700 the secrecy around it in Sot 43.

01:22:46.320 Some of the biggest strategic blunders in human history, the foundation of those blunders

01:22:52.440 were a lack of imagination, the belief that an adversary or whoever could not do something

01:22:58.240 because it had never been done before.

01:22:59.600 The U.S. thought it was safe for those ships in Pearl Harbor because we didn't think that

01:23:04.220 the Japanese could get there, much less have torpedoes that could navigate such an arrow 0.99

01:23:08.360 straight and hit these ships until they did.

01:23:10.580 We never thought in our wildest dreams that terrorists would strike us in the homeland by

01:23:16.160 training for a year to become pilots and then hijacking commercial aircraft and crashing

01:23:21.360 them into buildings.

01:23:22.460 And they did.

01:23:23.580 The thing that always keeps me up at night, something in the human psyche that says, I don't

01:23:29.520 have time or energy to sort of prepare for the unforeseen or what I've never seen done

01:23:34.960 before.

01:23:36.220 And that leads to strategic surprise and sometimes strategic surprises that change the course

01:23:42.680 of human history.

01:23:45.420 What do you think, David, that he should do?

01:23:47.740 You know, if Marco Rubio called you tomorrow and said, what should we do about this?

01:23:51.300 What would you say?

01:23:53.920 Yeah, he certainly gave a deflated response on Hannity recently saying he has no ability

01:23:58.380 to investigate, certainly as a national security advisor, secretary of state, and the chief

01:24:03.600 archivist of the United States, which that last position is actually very important because

01:24:09.140 under national archives, they manage the public interest, the classification board.

01:24:14.820 And between that and the presidential intelligence advisory board, currently chaired by Mr. Devin

01:24:20.220 Nunes and his connection to the cabinet officials, certainly Secretary Rubio or national security

01:24:28.580 advisor Rubio should authorize the legal and lawful investigation using resources in the

01:24:35.300 Department of Justice in the Internal Revenue Service because there's been a lot of procurement

01:24:39.580 fraud, a lot of misappropriation of funds, also white collar and blue collar crime to include

01:24:46.680 harming officials.

01:24:51.120 Wait, but where would he start?

01:24:53.020 Whose tires would he kick first?

01:24:57.120 That's a question, or she's an answer I would provide in person in a prescriptive manner

01:25:02.360 behind the scenes.

01:25:04.260 Certainly, there are elements within the Central Intelligence Agency, Director of Science and

01:25:10.700 Technology that would start there.

01:25:12.540 There are certain career officials that are still there that manage the issue.

01:25:16.140 There are certain officials that are long timers in the Office of the Director of National

01:25:21.220 Intelligence that have been there for a very, very long time.

01:25:25.140 That's also helped manage this issue for a while.

01:25:28.420 So I certainly have the Rolodex of names, offices, and I certainly have bumped into the halls

01:25:35.400 and walls, facilities where everything is.

01:25:38.180 So I think it's Secretary Rubio liaising with the Vice President and President Trump, getting

01:25:45.760 the bosses' strategic vision on this, how they would like to proceed publicly but privately

01:25:50.200 and start going after some of those agencies.

01:25:53.340 And the Department of the Air Force, particular offices and organizations within there that are

01:25:59.600 very near and dear to my heart, were also involved.

01:26:03.460 So I have to be a little evasive and vague publicly.

01:26:06.740 Yeah, I get it.

01:26:07.060 I don't like to tip off.

01:26:08.180 You're already doing so much to tell us what we need to know.

01:26:11.180 I appreciate it.

01:26:12.040 I know there are certain lines you can't cross or you get in trouble.

01:26:16.020 Just to sort of broad brush it now, for people who haven't seen the movie, who haven't been

01:26:19.740 following you and your whistleblower complaint and your testimony before Congress, for the person

01:26:25.220 sitting at home right now, David, saying, this is bullshit.

01:26:27.580 You know, like, he hasn't seen an alien craft, so how does he know?

01:26:30.880 Like, what's the best evidence?

01:26:33.280 Like, what can we say?

01:26:35.000 Now, having watched it, like, I am totally on board.

01:26:37.620 I am very persuaded.

01:26:39.480 But what do you think is the best evidence for the people sitting at home to understand

01:26:42.560 this is real?

01:26:43.640 And it has been kept secret by the government.

01:26:45.640 And the reason they're so skeptical about it is in large part due to an active disinformation

01:26:51.660 campaign that's been unleashed against them and our society for decades now to try to make

01:26:59.920 it seem crazy to talk about this.

01:27:05.020 Yeah, certainly that was a private finding of the Robertson panel in 1953.

01:27:09.720 And that's kind of when the the disinformation campaign ensued.

01:27:14.140 The best piece of evidence that I that is very obscure, that is declassified.

01:27:19.340 There was a former classified Australian government analysis that is currently in the Australian

01:27:25.380 National Archives.

01:27:26.960 It was declassified several years ago.

01:27:29.580 But really, the public doesn't really know about it.

01:27:32.800 This was a 1971 analysis by senior physicist Harry Turner, who was in charge of nuclear

01:27:39.740 procurement for the Australian governments in the 60s and 70s.

01:27:44.360 He was a top secret cleared senior physicist for the government.

01:27:47.520 And through his sourcing, and this is a formally classified assessment of an allied government.

01:27:55.540 Harry Turner discusses in the first couple pages of that assessment, if people download

01:28:01.520 it and go to page seven or eight through 20, they'll see what I'm talking about, where

01:28:05.840 Turner talks about how the CIA and other organizations secretly knew this was a real issue, started

01:28:12.200 that disinformation campaign, started secretly working on reversing aspects of the technology.

01:28:18.280 But the US government was deadly serious on the topic at the time.

01:28:22.820 And it's quite the eyebrow razor, if you actually read that document that was originally classified

01:28:28.720 and is an official Australian government document that the public is not really aware of just

01:28:35.860 because it's obscure, if you will.

01:28:37.440 And then, of course, the only other thing to mention is there is certainly a myriad of

01:28:42.400 declassified government documents, US government documents discussing the same craft morphologies.

01:28:49.560 The TIC-TAC of today was the propane tank in 1953 when Air Force OSI was investigating things.

01:28:58.120 The TIC-TAC references is what many, many pilots have said they've seen flying in the sky.

01:29:04.160 Once we got better radar, they started to see what looks like the shape of a TIC-TAC in the sky,

01:29:09.700 but it has propulsion abilities and hovering abilities that no craft made by man has.

01:29:17.360 And it's been confusing, decorated, respected pilots for some time now since we improved that radar.

01:29:23.500 And it does no one any good just to call them all a bunch of kooks.

01:29:27.040 They're all a bunch of nuts.

01:29:29.460 If so, we've got a lot of very nutty, respected pilots who we've put in the most dangerous positions possible,

01:29:36.280 in addition to those in the intel communities and, like you, who have responsibility for investigating things like this.

01:29:42.320 You've shown a lot of courage, David.

01:29:43.940 Thank you for telling your story.

01:29:45.200 Thank you, Megan, for having me on.

01:29:48.980 All right, coming up, as I mentioned, Representative Anna Paulina Luna of Florida has been very outspoken about this issue.

01:29:55.520 She's in the documentary as well, and she is here next.

01:29:59.620 You know how much my family and I love our dogs.

01:30:01.940 Yes, even sweet Strudwick.

01:30:04.220 I cannot imagine life without them.

01:30:06.380 They have a great life, but some dogs are not this lucky.

01:30:09.140 And that's why I'm so glad to tell you about Delta Rescue, the largest no-kill, care-for-life animal sanctuary in the world.

01:30:16.560 They have rescued thousands of dogs plus cats and horses, too.

01:30:20.160 They provide all the animals with shelter, safety, and most of all, love.

01:30:23.880 And they've been doing it for more than 45 years now.

01:30:26.580 Delta Rescue relies solely on contributions to stay open, and giving can bring tax benefits to you, too.

01:30:33.080 Speak with your estate planner about how you can grow your estate while helping animals in need.

01:30:37.120 And check out the estate planning tab on their website to learn more.

01:30:40.140 We love our thunder in Strudwick, but would like other dogs who need love to find it, too.

01:30:45.200 Visit DeltaRescue.org today to learn more.

01:30:47.700 That's DeltaRescue.org.

01:30:53.280 Just want to update you before we bring in the Congresswoman on this shooting that's happened in Minneapolis of a civilian by, I think, an ICE agent, certainly a DHS agent.

01:31:05.780 The video has just come in via social media, and I'll try to describe what it is we're seeing.

01:31:13.320 Let's play it.

01:31:17.060 Okay, you have a parked maroon SUV.

01:31:20.840 ICE pulls up in a gray truck.

01:31:24.600 An officer comes out.

01:31:25.740 He's walking over to the parked SUV.

01:31:27.760 Another officer comes from another car and is at the front.

01:31:30.200 The woman backs up. 1.00

01:31:31.160 And they appear to shoot her as she drives away.

01:31:41.980 And she's dead.

01:31:44.340 Let's re-rack it.

01:31:51.920 Let's re-rack it.

01:31:52.740 Okay, so she's parked.

01:31:55.180 She's not going anywhere.

01:31:56.220 She's got the brake lights on.

01:31:57.020 She's not moving.

01:31:57.780 The ICE agent gets out of a gray truck, pickup truck.

01:32:01.620 He walks over to the front driver's side along with another agent.

01:32:05.160 Now she backs up.

01:32:05.980 She's trying to go away.

01:32:06.740 That's clear.

01:32:07.220 She's trying to run away. 0.99

01:32:08.700 Oh, my fucking God.

01:32:09.360 And it appears one of them shoots her.

01:32:12.260 The video doesn't make this.

01:32:13.640 There's two officers on the left.

01:32:14.880 There's one on the right.

01:32:16.940 And one of them fires into the car.

01:32:18.620 I don't know which one.

01:32:20.860 She was.

01:32:21.520 You are fucking crazy.

01:32:22.740 It was the one on the front right, Deb.

01:32:24.280 Because there's two on the driver's side.

01:32:25.500 There's one on the passenger side.

01:32:27.180 What the fuck?

01:32:29.280 Okay, so it's the one on the very front who was potentially in danger by her driving.

01:32:33.280 But that will be a point of contention.

01:32:35.660 Yeah, this is not going to be a one day story.

01:32:40.560 I can tell you that.

01:32:41.400 This is going to keep going.

01:32:43.320 She clearly was trying to drive away against the commands of the officers. 0.97

01:32:47.400 But there'll be a big dispute about whether the unloading of the gun was appropriate in these circumstances.

01:32:55.640 You heard DHS claiming the officer was in fear for his life and that of others.

01:33:00.520 They were right next to her SUV as she tried to pull away.

01:33:03.180 But whether their fear of deadly force from her driving out of their range was justified will be an issue that we're going to be debating.

01:33:12.900 And you're already getting plenty of condemnation from people, as I said, like Mayor Frye and others quick to weigh in against ICE.

01:33:23.940 We will wait until we see more and no more.

01:33:27.580 In the meantime, I want to bring in Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna of Florida.

01:33:30.620 She's the chairwoman of the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets.

01:33:36.240 Think of that.

01:33:36.740 There's a task force on the declassification of federal secrets.

01:33:40.220 That's a great group to be the chairwoman of.

01:33:43.200 She's been holding hearings, pushing the federal government for transparency on UAPs and other classified programs.

01:33:49.160 Here's just one moment from one of those hearings.

01:33:50.980 Watch this.

01:33:51.340 The public should be seeing this stuff and why you're not allowed to.

01:33:56.100 I don't know.

01:33:56.520 But that's a hellfire missile smacking into that UFO and just bounced right off.

01:34:01.920 And it kept going.

01:34:02.900 I'd like to ask the committee to replay that video that Burleson had played earlier.

01:34:07.120 Are you aware of anything in the government, United States government arsenal that can split a hellfire missile like this?

01:34:21.860 No.

01:34:22.460 And do whatever blob thing it did and then keep going?

01:34:25.180 Nothing?

01:34:25.580 Nothing.

01:34:26.080 All right.

01:34:26.420 OK.

01:34:27.820 Does this video scare you guys?

01:34:31.320 Yes or no?

01:34:32.760 Yes.

01:34:33.940 Wiggins?

01:34:34.380 Yes.

01:34:35.440 Nat?

01:34:35.660 Nat?

01:34:37.120 I had a different reaction.

01:34:38.540 I was really happy that it got out.

01:34:43.020 Representative Luna is also fighting for stronger protections for whistleblowers like David Grush, our first guest.

01:34:49.000 She's a veteran of the U.S. Air Force, and she has said that she personally had an encounter herself with an object she believes was likely a UAP.

01:34:56.600 She joins me now for the first time.

01:34:58.080 Representative, great to have you.

01:34:59.960 Nice to have you, Megan.

01:35:01.760 Thanks for being here.

01:35:02.640 So, OK, this is I'm going to be honest.

01:35:05.660 You know, when you hear this out of the blue without having sat through the hearing or watched the latest documentary, you think, is everybody nuts?

01:35:13.400 Like, are they all in on it?

01:35:15.220 But I've heard you talk about this so many times.

01:35:18.380 Matter of fact, Lee, on Joe Rogan and in the halls of Congress.

01:35:20.920 I believe you, and I believe you believe it.

01:35:24.520 And having watched this documentary now, I believe it, too.

01:35:28.740 Boy, if it's a lie, they got a lot of storied scientists to spew a bunch of nonsense at risk to their own careers and reputations about it.

01:35:37.000 But you've run the hearings.

01:35:38.560 You've talked to countless guys who have been investigating this for years.

01:35:42.100 What's your conclusion?

01:35:44.160 Look, we, especially from a national security perspective, want to know why it is that if these things or if whatever this is is real,

01:35:52.660 why is it, first of all, that members of Congress who serve as the oversight authority for the civilian arm, really the American people,

01:36:01.440 are being denied access to the videos and photos of what we displayed in that hearing?

01:36:07.680 Megan, Representative Burleson had that video dead dropped to him.

01:36:11.860 It was scrubbed with any, I guess, data that could point to who gave the information to him.

01:36:17.680 But that is a confirmed real video, and as you are seeing, that is the type of footage that, unless it is basically leaked to us,

01:36:25.540 we're being denied access to, specifically out of the Department of War.

01:36:30.140 Now, this goes way back to last Congress, actually, when myself, Representative Gates, and Representative Burchett

01:36:37.240 had actually done a field hearing following up on two whistleblowers or a few whistleblowers

01:36:42.100 that had come forward to Representative Gates's office that were pilots at Eglin Air Force Base,

01:36:46.480 alleging that the U.S. government was covering this up.

01:36:49.560 Of course, when you hear something like that, you're like, all right, you know, you've seen this in sci-fi films

01:36:53.460 or heard rumors about this, but never have dealt with it directly.

01:36:56.940 And then, basically, in a nutshell, Representative Gates, Burchett, and I went out to Eglin,

01:37:01.120 and, of course, they tried to cancel the meeting.

01:37:03.580 We got the meeting back on.

01:37:05.040 And then once we were there, we were actually denied access.

01:37:07.440 We got into a massive fight with the base commander.

01:37:09.880 We went in and out of the skiff.

01:37:11.160 And then, ultimately, without saying too much, part of how we got some of the information that we did

01:37:17.940 is I actually had asked one of the witnesses to draw for me the photograph or the image of this thing

01:37:25.940 that was essentially being denied to us.

01:37:29.740 So they're denying us the actual imagery, but the military officer was able to actually draw it for me,

01:37:35.700 of which I'm sure they didn't think that we were going to ask them to do that, but we did.

01:37:39.480 And, again, even dating back to my own military experience,

01:37:43.140 there was one point when I was stationed at Portland Air National Guard prior to leaving active duty.

01:37:49.280 And at that point in time, there was an airspace incursion that had taken place

01:37:53.720 that some of the pilots had been talking about.

01:37:56.620 One specifically, I said, you know, what is this thing specifically?

01:37:59.360 Are you able to describe it?

01:38:00.420 He couldn't.

01:38:00.880 And he got kind of spooked talking about it.

01:38:03.160 And that's the, in my opinion, he definitely ran into a UAP or saw a UAP or they're chasing one.

01:38:09.880 But that is not the first time that we've had pilots in fear of losing their flight status

01:38:14.340 for coming forward with this information.

01:38:16.220 So I kind of started as a skeptic.

01:38:18.300 But after leading into the investigations, after seeing some of the footage like you saw in that hearing,

01:38:23.940 after talking to non-birth people, not, you know, people that are driving Winnebago's wearing tinfoil,

01:38:29.380 but legitimate, credible people, it definitely seems real.

01:38:33.600 Mm-hmm.

01:38:34.740 I mean, I see Air Force pilots talking about over and over encountering these things that come out of nowhere

01:38:41.060 that can do things no aircraft could.

01:38:43.560 I believe them.

01:38:44.360 They have absolutely no reason to lie about it.

01:38:46.020 And they have every reason to not lie, to not say that they saw that when they did.

01:38:51.080 Yeah.

01:38:51.320 So you can see their reluctance in even talking about it.

01:38:53.200 They don't want to be seen as a kook, but they saw what they saw.

01:38:55.760 In the documentary, The Age of Disclosure, they do have former—it's called ATIP,

01:39:03.260 and it's a group that's been investigating all of this for some time—officials talking about a breakthrough theory

01:39:10.100 and how they think these UAPs operate.

01:39:13.820 And it would explain some of the experiences people have had with them.

01:39:17.180 Take a listen here to SOP 46.

01:39:18.320 This one breakthrough can be the key to interstellar travel,

01:39:23.340 where you want to travel long distances without taking enormous amounts of subjective time.

01:39:29.660 We also have low observability because the bubble acts as a barrier between two space-time environments.

01:39:35.920 This would eliminate or conceal most of the known signatures of conventional technologies.

01:39:40.220 This is why radar would have difficulty tracking a craft,

01:39:43.440 because the signal from the radar would be distorted by the energy field around the craft.

01:39:49.120 The radar signatures literally just move around the bubble and does it reflect back to the radar emitter.

01:39:55.500 So it's not surprising when someone takes a photo of a UAP,

01:40:00.080 they find they get a fuzzy and distorted picture,

01:40:03.060 because they're actually taking a photo through a space-time barrier.

01:40:06.340 Do you know any of these guys, Representative?

01:40:11.560 Because these quantum physicists that were all throughout this movie were very impressive,

01:40:15.240 and they've been seriously and soberly trying to study this for some time.

01:40:20.140 Yeah, I believe I actually had gone into the SCIF with one of them,

01:40:22.900 and there are a number of other people who I think would back up these theories on it,

01:40:26.720 not to mention when you're talking about a barrier or maybe something surrounding these things,

01:40:31.080 there have been instances and reports from firsthand witnesses that these things do have a bubble,

01:40:37.240 if you will, call it that.

01:40:38.640 But what's even kind of crazier to see, Megan, is that, you know, if this wasn't real,

01:40:42.740 then why would the U.S. government or elements within the U.S. government be working so hard

01:40:47.200 to make it difficult for us to say, okay, is this real?

01:40:51.300 Is this not real?

01:40:51.840 Can we see the evidence?

01:40:52.980 The fact is, is that the pushback that we've received has been so incredibly obvious at this point

01:40:59.640 that it just kind of furthers our own opinions on there are people that are controlling this information,

01:41:04.940 and there does seem to be even outside of the purview of, I think, sometimes our own secretaries

01:41:10.260 who have the best intentions on declassifying this stuff.

01:41:12.880 There is this internal intelligence battle on this topic.

01:41:16.360 And so, you know, you're talking earlier about whistleblower protections.

01:41:19.520 One of the things that we're going to have to do,

01:41:22.020 because what I did not want to do is host just another hearing with more witness testimony

01:41:26.160 without providing the documents and evidence.

01:41:28.040 I think that that would probably be a waste of resources unless we can provide that directly

01:41:31.380 to the American people.

01:41:32.520 And we have received a list, I think it's over about 40 different documents,

01:41:37.020 to actually be able to get that information, to provide it,

01:41:40.940 but also to bring forward legislation out of oversight,

01:41:43.500 and I actually just left a hearing earlier talking to the chairman about it,

01:41:46.260 to actually bring forward immunity for all of the people,

01:41:49.820 some of them in the film, some personally that we know of,

01:41:53.040 to come talk with us in a skiff about locations or specifically more information

01:41:57.060 pertaining to this without, you know, being in fear of basically being hit with espionage.

01:42:02.740 Yes, because, I mean, you heard David Gresh was naming specific positions

01:42:06.980 that need to be subpoenaed and looked into,

01:42:08.900 the guys, the long-term guys who may actually have responsibility for this program.

01:42:14.100 But up next, I'm going to hold you over if you can.

01:42:17.220 Because up next, we have to talk about why,

01:42:19.340 what are they worried about in disclosing any of this?

01:42:22.020 There are some interesting answers there.

01:42:23.840 We'll pick it up there when we come back.

01:42:26.080 Don't go away.

01:42:27.860 Every new year, people think about what a real fresh start looks like.

01:42:30.920 For many, it begins at home.

01:42:32.880 January is a great time to refresh your space and start the year feeling grounded.

01:42:36.800 And Cozy Earth can be your go-to for that reset.

01:42:39.240 They just launched their new Baja bedding set.

01:42:41.720 It's their first fully matching collection.

01:42:43.640 Sheets, duvet cover, quilt, all inspired by the soothing tones of Baja California.

01:42:49.560 The designs are gorgeous.

01:42:51.080 The fabrics feel premium.

01:42:52.780 And it gives your bedroom that elevated resort-like look.

01:42:56.640 And do not forget the Luxe bath towels.

01:42:59.160 These towels are incredible, made from a cotton and bamboo viscose blend with zero twist technology.

01:43:04.620 So they are plush, absorbent, and feel like a warm hug when you step out of the shower.

01:43:08.480 Everything comes with a 100-night sleep trial and a 10-year warranty.

01:43:13.160 Start the new year with real comfort.

01:43:14.920 Go to CozyEarth.com.

01:43:16.020 Use my code MEGAN for up to 20% off.

01:43:18.340 CozyEarth.com, code MEGAN.

01:43:19.680 And if you get a post-purchase survey, tell them you heard about Cozy Earth right here.

01:43:23.600 Hey Ontario, come on down to BetMGM Casino and check out our newest exclusive, the Price is Right Fortune Pick.

01:43:31.240 Don't miss out.

01:43:32.040 Play exciting casino games based on the iconic game show only at BetMGM.

01:43:36.220 Access to the Price is Right Fortune Pick is only available at BetMGM Casino.

01:43:39.260 BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly.

01:43:41.460 19 plus to wager Ontario only.

01:43:43.000 Please play responsibly.

01:43:44.040 If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you,

01:43:46.620 please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge.

01:43:51.420 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario.

01:43:54.840 What matters most to you?

01:43:57.340 Is it unforgettable adventures?

01:43:59.900 Connections with lifelong friends?

01:44:02.480 Peaceful moments of reflection?

01:44:04.880 Feelings of joy and freedom you can't wait to experience again and again?

01:44:09.720 Or is it the vehicles that help you make all those special moments possible?

01:44:14.140 Whatever your answer is, Toyota is here to bring you closer to the things that matter to you.

01:44:19.460 Because they matter to us too.

01:44:22.080 Toyota.

01:44:22.980 For what matters most.

01:44:24.300 Hey everyone, it's me, Megan Kelly.

01:44:28.280 I've got some exciting news.

01:44:30.480 I now have my very own channel on Sirius XM.

01:44:33.640 It's called the Megan Kelly Channel and it is where you will hear the truth unfiltered with no agenda and no apologies.

01:44:39.780 Along with the Megan Kelly Show, you're going to hear from people like Mark Halperin, Link Lauren, Maureen Callahan, Emily Jashinsky, Jesse Kelly, Real Clear Politics and many more.

01:44:48.740 It's bold, no BS news.

01:44:51.300 Only on the Megan Kelly Channel, Sirius XM 111 and on the Sirius XM app.

01:44:55.800 Representative Anna Paulina Luna had to run to a briefing, unfortunately, so we will have to continue or conclude that discussion with her another time.

01:45:08.220 But highly recommend the film, guys.

01:45:10.340 Age of Disclosure.

01:45:11.600 It's on Amazon Prime right now.

01:45:13.780 Well, and I would love to hear your feedback on your own takeaways.

01:45:17.580 Of course, he's getting ripped by, you know, the Hollywood Reporter, the New York Times saying only a chump would believe what's in there. 0.99

01:45:25.360 I don't see how you watch this thing and don't walk away believing, honestly.

01:45:28.960 And I've been a skeptic.

01:45:30.900 These people in this video seem entirely credible.

01:45:35.540 And there's 34 of them.

01:45:36.720 And they all have been at the head of these investigative committees for years.

01:45:42.560 And like I said, respected physicists and fighter pilots, if these aren't UAPs, what are they that they keep finding?

01:45:52.320 And these guys are saying not just that they, you know, had mid-air encounters, but some of these people who do the investigations are saying we actually have craft and some sort of bodies or biologic material.

01:46:05.640 I want to get back to the shooting that just happened in Minneapolis.

01:46:08.500 Christy Noem, I think she was on Fox News.

01:46:12.920 She called in and said the following, quote, a woman attacked them, the ICE agents who shot, I think one shot.

01:46:22.260 Oh, we have it.

01:46:22.780 We have a cut.

01:46:23.360 Let's watch.

01:46:24.060 Let's listen.

01:46:25.260 She's in Texas.

01:46:26.100 You asked about a shooting that we just had in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

01:46:30.060 It was an act of domestic terrorism.

01:46:32.760 What happened was our ICE officers were out in enforcement action.

01:46:36.180 They got stuck in the snow because of the adverse weather that is in Minneapolis.

01:46:40.600 They were attempting to push out their vehicle and a woman attacked them and those surrounding them and attempted to run them over and ram them with her vehicle.

01:46:48.800 An officer of ours acted quickly and defensively shot to protect himself and the people around him.

01:46:56.120 And my understanding is, is that she was hit and is deceased.

01:46:59.820 Okay, let's just see the video one more time.

01:47:04.600 I don't know what preceded this.

01:47:06.420 We should say this for the record.

01:47:08.040 Maybe there was a more dangerous confrontation before the tape that is circulating online that's not on tape.

01:47:17.140 The tape that is making the rounds, I will say, doesn't perfectly match up with that description.

01:47:23.200 However, I cannot say that the ICE agent on the front driver's side of the vehicle did not feel in any way endangered by the fact that he was right there by the driver's side window and she started to drive away.

01:47:37.220 Now, you're not allowed to shoot somebody just for fleeing.

01:47:42.180 We don't give the death penalty for fleeing an officer.

01:47:46.260 However, if he genuinely felt that he was about to get run over, that would be a different story.

01:47:52.780 What we seem to see in this film is that he, just to, I'll say it, I'll describe it for the listening audience again before we play it.

01:48:00.540 But she's parked in a maroon SUV.

01:48:03.980 She's not moving.

01:48:05.020 This gray pickup truck with ICE agents pulls up or DHS employees pulls up.

01:48:11.020 You see a guy in gray fatigues get out and go over to the driver's side window.

01:48:15.040 There's another guy dressed in black who goes in front of him.

01:48:18.480 And then the story quickly becomes about a guy who appears to have come from, I'm guessing, the other side of the maroon car, like the passenger side.

01:48:29.280 He came up in his own ICE vehicle, I guess, from the passenger side.

01:48:32.500 And he kind of folds in, in front of the guy dressed in black, who's in front of the driver's side window.

01:48:39.220 Because this guy, you don't even see.

01:48:40.520 If you're just watching this tape from the left, you see the guy in the gray.

01:48:43.220 You see the guy in the black right in front of him over to the driver's side window.

01:48:46.720 But it appears the guy who did the shooting came from the front of her car or the passenger side of her car from his own vehicle.

01:48:54.220 And he appears to be the one who did the shooting.

01:48:56.620 And she, I don't know what she was thinking, but she has these ICE agents on the side of her car and she decides to try to drive away. 1.00

01:49:06.640 I mean, it seems to be a clear attempt to flee.

01:49:09.180 Everybody knows when you're talking to law enforcement, you don't freaking drive away.

01:49:12.380 Do not flee.

01:49:13.360 But again, in general, the rule is you cannot shoot somebody for fleeing unless you consider them armed and dangerous.

01:49:20.260 That's generally the rule with cops.

01:49:22.560 Now, they're claiming that she tried to run them over.

01:49:27.000 Is that what was in this guy's head when he tried to shoot?

01:49:30.060 And can we say watching this video definitively that that's not true?

01:49:33.600 No.

01:49:34.640 But that's certainly going to be in question because it's not quite clear from the vantage point that we're seeing so far.

01:49:40.540 And I'm sure there will be other videos that will provide more information.

01:49:43.620 But let's just watch it one more time.

01:49:48.720 Stopped maroon vehicle.

01:49:51.520 Here comes the silver ice truck, pickup truck.

01:49:55.380 The guy in the gray fatigues kind of saunters over.

01:49:58.320 A guy dressed in black comes in front of the guy in gray.

01:50:01.420 She backs up. 0.98

01:50:02.420 Shame!

01:50:03.260 Shame!

01:50:04.560 Oh, my fucking God!

01:50:06.000 Yeah.

01:50:06.840 What the fuck?

01:50:07.040 So she pulled, just for listening audience, she kind of backed up. 0.62

01:50:10.420 You just fucking, what the fuck do you do?

01:50:11.300 You had three ICE agents on the passenger side of her car. 1.00

01:50:14.360 Okay, we can stop it.

01:50:15.920 Three ICE agents on the passenger, sorry, the driver's side of her car.

01:50:20.040 And she reversed, which is relevant.

01:50:24.800 She reversed, which is not good.

01:50:26.520 That definitely could telegraph to a cop that you're trying to run him over.

01:50:31.360 We're watching it again.

01:50:32.840 Then she goes forward.

01:50:34.860 Then they shoot.

01:50:36.020 Here's who we're watching again.

01:50:36.980 The guy in the gray.

01:50:37.960 He approaches.

01:50:38.780 The guy in black approaches.

01:50:40.120 And from somewhere, there's a third guy who appears on the front left.

01:50:45.800 She reverses and then she backs up. 0.86

01:50:48.380 I'm sorry.

01:50:48.660 She backs up and then she goes forward. 0.80

01:50:52.080 Here is Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry.

01:50:56.680 Do we?

01:50:57.140 Yeah, we have the SOT.

01:50:58.100 Let's listen to him.

01:51:00.960 Better, but I do have a message for our community, for our city, and I have a message for ICE.

01:51:11.360 To ICE, get the fuck out of Minneapolis. 1.00

01:51:14.520 We do not want you here.

01:51:18.780 Your stated reason for being in this city is to create some kind of safety, and you are doing exactly the opposite.

01:51:26.100 People are being hurt.

01:51:28.440 Families are being ripped apart.

01:51:30.840 Long-term Minneapolis residents that have contributed so greatly to our city, to our culture, to our economy, are being terrorized.

01:51:39.220 And now somebody is dead.

01:51:42.820 That's on you.

01:51:44.960 And it's also on you to leave.

01:51:48.280 Wow.

01:51:48.680 Maybe if you would cooperate with the federal authorities, sir, in rounding up the illegals who have no right to be there, then ICE would leave.

01:51:58.140 Why is ICE there?

01:51:59.820 Why are they even there?

01:52:01.980 They're not in Houston.

01:52:04.620 That's not their first choice.

01:52:06.240 They're there because you won't enforce the nation's laws.

01:52:10.680 They're trying to enforce the immigration laws.

01:52:13.180 You have an obligation to cooperate with them.

01:52:15.360 If somebody gets arrested by working with ICE on the detainer, you won't because you're a sanctuary city, thus endangering everyone around.

01:52:23.620 You amped up the pressure and the environment around these officers who are just trying to do their job.

01:52:29.840 They've been getting shot at in city after city.

01:52:32.660 And let's not forget, in Charlotte, I believe it was Charlotte, almost run over by a woman driving a truck.

01:52:40.860 They had to shoot at her, too.

01:52:42.360 That woman lived.

01:52:43.720 But you don't know what's in the heads of these law enforcement officers.

01:52:47.720 They're on a razor's edge right now because they're under threat.

01:52:52.240 There's been bounties taken out on their heads.

01:52:55.140 They're trying to enforce the law, unlike you, Mayor Fry.

01:52:59.100 This woman should not have backed up and then it's almost like she didn't think she could get away unless she backed up and gave herself more room to turn. 1.00

01:53:07.600 She backed up and then she accelerated in front, you know, sort of moving along the side of the agents. 1.00

01:53:15.080 So we'll hear from those agents, I'm sure.

01:53:17.700 But this is very dangerous.

01:53:19.900 This is very dangerous.

01:53:21.480 Here's the New York Times.

01:53:22.400 My understanding is that there was this presser at which the police chief made those comments just now.

01:53:51.440 And for what it's worth, they did identify the woman driving the truck as a middle-aged white woman.

01:53:58.580 We believe the cop was white, too, or the DHS employees.

01:54:02.460 So this does not, at this hour, appear to involve any sort of racial element, which, of course, was behind those protests that blew up Minneapolis back in late May, June 2020, after George Floyd was killed.

01:54:17.380 Um, they won't exercise caution.

01:54:21.140 The media is not going to do that.

01:54:23.960 And we'll see what happens in the days and hours ahead, uh, in Minneapolis.

01:54:29.500 But this thing is going to be with us for a, for a while.

01:54:32.940 And before we go, we just got another video in of this incident.

01:54:37.820 And it's a much more clear version of what happened and why this thing went south.

01:54:44.620 I'm going to show it to you quickly at first, uh, just at regular speed.

01:54:48.420 I think this is from the local ABC.

01:54:50.380 It's, it's got the ABC five watermark on it.

01:54:52.660 Um, and then we're going to slow it down and talk about it, but it just, to set the stage again, what we see from the one angle is the cop dressed in gray, the cop dressed in black come out of their car, approach her car.

01:55:05.740 And they're basically standing by the driver's side window, but the person who we believe fired the shot appears seemingly out of nowhere from that vantage point, which is back behind the DHS, uh, pickup truck that has pulled up.

01:55:23.460 So we believe it may have been the wife we're told of the woman who got shot, maybe, maybe not her video, but the point is it's from the vantage point of behind the maroon SUV and on the driver's side, what you don't see is a vantage point from the front of her SUV or the passenger side.

01:55:45.020 So we don't know what's happening there.

01:55:47.560 And all we do know is that we believe the cop who opened fire came from there.

01:55:53.840 So why did he, well, it's not clear from that first video, but this video just in, she seems to shed more light on it here.

01:56:00.660 Let's watch it at regular speed.

01:56:06.140 All right.

01:56:06.760 So stand by can see a cop right there.

01:56:09.440 And there goes her car. 0.95

01:56:10.620 She gets shot and then her car goes into a car nearby because she's no longer in control of it.

01:56:18.700 Okay.

01:56:19.060 We're going to slow it down though.

01:56:20.780 Let's slow it down because now we see where that third cop came from.

01:56:24.280 He came from the front of her SUV.

01:56:27.700 He was in the road as her SUV accelerated toward him.

01:56:32.380 Stand by here.

01:56:32.840 You can see it.

01:56:33.500 There he is.

01:56:34.040 He's right there.

01:56:34.700 He's standing in the road and her car comes for him and it appears to be that then that he opened fire.

01:56:42.340 Okay.

01:56:42.560 So look right here, right here.

01:56:43.520 You can see a cop dressed in black.

01:56:45.300 He's standing right there.

01:56:47.440 Her car comes.

01:56:48.620 He tries to get out of the way.

01:56:51.740 And that's when we believe he opened fire.

01:56:53.680 Let's watch it again.

01:56:54.420 See the silver car that's parked.

01:56:55.560 He's standing there in the road.

01:56:57.600 Here comes her car. 1.00

01:56:58.860 You can see him brace.

01:56:59.980 He moves out of the way and we believe opened fire.

01:57:03.540 However, I'm sorry, but this is very supportive of the police's story.

01:57:08.360 There still will be a debate on whether he should have shot.

01:57:12.260 He should have opened fire.

01:57:13.400 But this does support the statement that he felt he was about to get run over.

01:57:19.260 And that's why he drew his firearm.

01:57:21.560 This will change the story considerably for anybody who's honest and wants to do a fair assessment of what happened in Minneapolis rather than just distract from, let's say, your political problems.

01:57:32.540 Tim Walsh, who just issued a statement that reads, I've seen the video.

01:57:37.960 Don't believe this propaganda machine.

01:57:40.880 The state will ensure there is a full affair and expeditious investigation to ensure accountability and justice.

01:57:47.760 And he's saying he's retweeting the Homeland Security statement when he says, don't believe this propaganda machine.

01:57:53.920 And I'm sorry, Governor Walsh, but you need to look at this tape from all angles before you make a judgment.

01:58:00.340 That'll do it for us today.

01:58:01.520 We will have more on this for sure tomorrow.

01:58:03.340 Thanks for listening.

01:58:05.360 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

01:58:07.460 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:58:10.020 From Searchlight Pictures comes Is This Thing On, now playing in theaters.

01:58:20.720 Directed by Bradley Cooper and starring Canada's own Will Arnett.

01:58:24.560 Is This Thing On is a story of a man's unconventional journey to find himself and rediscover his voice and happiness.

01:58:31.900 Seeking new purpose in the New York stand-up comedy scene while navigating his impending divorce.

01:58:36.800 Is This Thing On is a raw, authentic, and hilarious story about discovery, reinvention, and second chances in life.

01:58:45.340 See, Is This Thing On, now playing in theaters.

01:58:48.700 Hey Ontario, come on down to BetMGM Casino and check out our newest exclusive, The Price is Right Fortune Pick.

01:58:54.940 Don't miss out. Play exciting casino games based on the iconic game show only at BetMGM.

01:58:59.900 Access to The Price is Right Fortune Pick is only available at BetMGM Casino.

01:59:02.860 BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly.

01:59:05.160 19 plus to wager Ontario only.

01:59:06.560 Please play responsibly if you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you.

01:59:10.420 Please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge.

01:59:15.300 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario.

The Megyn Kelly Show - January 07, 2026

Whining Walz and Crying Dokoupil, with Mark Halperin, and Truth About UFOs, with David Grusch and Rep. Anna Paulina Luna ｜ Ep. 1225

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript