The Megyn Kelly Show - July 28, 2025


Will Ghislaine Maxwell Speak Publicly, Next Russiagate Docs, Mamdani's Wedding Bash: AM Update 7⧸28


Episode Stats

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16 minutes

Words per Minute

155.69403

Word Count

2,640

Sentence Count

175

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

Jeffrey Epstein Associate Ghislaine Maxwell meets with the DOJ as questions surface about a potential pardon in exchange for further cooperation. CIA Director John Ratcliffe teases that more declassified documents relating to how the 2016 Russian election narrative took off implicating Hillary Clinton. And New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani throws an elaborate wedding bash overseas with military-style security, raising eyebrows and accusations of hypocrisy.


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00:00:33.080 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly.
00:00:35.540 It's Monday, July 28th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.
00:00:40.100 I think Galen did a wonderful job.
00:00:41.940 She was asked maybe about 100 different people.
00:00:44.580 She answered questions about everybody.
00:00:46.940 Will Galen talk?
00:00:48.520 Jeffrey Epstein Associate Galen Maxwell meets with the DOJ as questions surface
00:00:53.200 about a potential pardon in exchange for further cooperation.
00:00:57.220 What that intelligence shows is that part of this was a Hillary Clinton plan,
00:01:01.840 but part of it was an FBI plan to be an accelerant to that fake Steele dossier.
00:01:08.660 CIA Director John Ratcliffe teases that more declassified documents relating to
00:01:13.840 how the 2016 Russian interference narrative took off are on the way,
00:01:18.280 this time implicating Hillary Clinton.
00:01:20.920 And New York City mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdani, a Democratic socialist,
00:01:26.180 throws an elaborate wedding bash overseas with military-style security,
00:01:30.780 raising eyebrows and accusations of hypocrisy.
00:01:33.780 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:46.420 Convicted Jeffrey Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell
00:02:49.300 sitting with the DOJ for a two-day interview late last week,
00:02:53.200 sharing knowledge with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche
00:02:55.880 about other potential uncharged Epstein associates.
00:02:59.820 Maxwell's attorney, David Oscar Marcus,
00:03:01.640 sharing some details of the meeting with reporters on Friday.
00:03:05.440 I think Glenn did a wonderful job.
00:03:07.260 She literally answered every question.
00:03:09.560 She didn't say, you know what, don't ask me that.
00:03:11.820 I'm not going to talk about this person.
00:03:13.660 She was asked maybe about a hundred different people.
00:03:17.100 She answered questions about everybody,
00:03:18.960 and she didn't hold anything back.
00:03:21.740 Maxwell currently serving a 20-year prison sentence
00:03:24.640 for her role in Jeffrey Epstein's sexual abuse
00:03:27.360 and her own misconduct is currently appealing her conviction.
00:03:31.860 ABC News reporting Maxwell answered questions for about nine hours
00:03:35.320 after being granted a limited form of immunity for her cooperation.
00:03:39.840 Speculation mounting as to whether Maxwell
00:03:41.480 will trade further cooperation for clemency.
00:03:44.420 On Friday morning, President Trump brushing off the question.
00:03:47.640 Would you consider a pardon or a commutation for Heelan-Maxwell?
00:03:51.840 It's something I haven't thought about.
00:03:54.240 It's really something I'm allowed to do,
00:03:56.940 but it's something I have not thought about.
00:03:59.500 Maxwell's attorney saying the prospect of a pardon
00:04:01.940 has not yet been raised,
00:04:03.520 while they consider potentially testifying before Congress next month.
00:04:07.180 Of course, everybody knows
00:04:08.740 Ms. Maxwell would welcome any relief.
00:04:11.920 She's been in very difficult conditions for five years.
00:04:16.980 There have been no asks and no promises,
00:04:19.220 and nothing like that has been made.
00:04:21.680 We haven't spoken to the president or anybody about a pardon just yet.
00:04:26.660 And, you know, listen,
00:04:28.600 the president this morning said he had the power to do so.
00:04:31.620 We hope he exercises that power in the right and just way.
00:04:34.560 Congress has subpoenaed her to testify.
00:04:36.740 We have to make a decision about whether she will do that or not.
00:04:39.280 And that's been scheduled for the week of August 11th,
00:04:42.620 and we haven't gotten back to them yet on whether we'll do that.
00:04:46.920 And also in the House, on Sunday,
00:04:49.200 House Speaker Mike Johnson managing calls from within-house ranks
00:04:52.380 to take further action in relation to the Epstein files,
00:04:55.800 sharing his stance on any potential pardon for Maxwell.
00:04:59.180 Well, I mean, obviously that's a decision of the president.
00:05:01.940 He said he had not adequately considered that.
00:05:04.060 I won't get in front of him.
00:05:05.220 That's not my lane.
00:05:06.180 And if you're asking my opinion, I think 20 years was a pittance.
00:05:09.620 I think she should have a life sentence at least.
00:05:12.480 I mean, think of all these unspeakable crimes.
00:05:14.520 And as you noted earlier, probably 1,000 victims.
00:05:17.760 I mean, you know, this is, it's hard to put into words how evil this was
00:05:22.460 and that she orchestrated it and was a big part of it,
00:05:26.060 at least under the criminal sanction, I think is an unforgivable thing.
00:05:29.960 So, again, not my decision, but I have great pause about that as any reasonable person would.
00:05:36.400 Various House factions currently pursuing multiple avenues in obtaining the Epstein files from the DOJ.
00:05:42.180 A House Oversight Subcommittee last week approving a subpoena requesting the files,
00:05:46.780 though Chairman Comer has yet to take further action in actually issuing that subpoena.
00:05:52.000 A source close to the committee telling us at AM Update
00:05:54.800 that details on the scope of the subpoena will soon be released.
00:05:58.360 Republican Congressman Thomas Massey of Kentucky and Democrat Congressman Roe Khanna of California
00:06:04.240 spearheading a bipartisan effort to force a vote legally compelling the DOJ
00:06:09.100 to release the entirety of the Epstein files,
00:06:12.300 with redactions protecting victims' information and removing child sexual abuse material.
00:06:17.520 Speaker Johnson Sunday on NBC saying the Massey-Kanna discharge petition is flawed.
00:06:22.660 Because you have to protect innocent people's names and reputations
00:06:27.080 whose names might be, as you noted at the outset of the program, intertwined into all these files.
00:06:31.820 The Massey and Khanna discharge petition would require the DOJ and FBI to release information
00:06:36.780 that they know is false, that is based on lies and rumors,
00:06:40.540 and was not even credible enough to be entered into the court proceedings.
00:06:44.740 And that would be a dangerous thing.
00:06:46.580 Our main concern here, though, is the protection of the innocent victims.
00:06:50.420 I mean, these are minors in many cases who are subjected to unspeakable crimes, abject evil.
00:06:56.780 They've already suffered great harm.
00:06:58.400 We do not need their names being unmasked.
00:07:01.620 The Massey and the Khanna discharge petition does not have adequate protections.
00:07:06.340 For example, in the way that it was drafted,
00:07:08.840 they cite that they don't want child abuse, sex abuse information uncovered,
00:07:13.800 but they cite the wrong provision of the federal code, and so it makes it unworkable.
00:07:19.620 It requires the DOJ to release grand jury testimony.
00:07:22.880 They are prohibited by law from doing so.
00:07:25.000 So it is not the right approach.
00:07:27.340 Congressman Khanna Sunday on NBC downplaying those concerns.
00:07:31.640 Now, there's a reason the Justice Department usually doesn't release information
00:07:35.220 before charging people, and I understand the sensitivity of that.
00:07:39.280 And I think the American people are fair.
00:07:40.900 They're going to be able to distinguish between someone who got a grant from
00:07:44.480 Jeffrey Epstein to do cancer research
00:07:46.680 versus rich and powerful men who were abusing underage girls.
00:07:51.180 Congressman Massey and Khanna telling NBC
00:07:53.460 they believe they will have the support needed to bring the vote following this August recess.
00:07:58.740 I think when we get back, we can get the signatures required to force this to the floor.
00:08:03.260 Speaker Mike Johnson should do the right thing and just bring it to the floor
00:08:06.220 and not require us to force it.
00:08:08.060 Congressman Khanna, I'm out of time, but yes or no, will it pass?
00:08:10.320 It will pass.
00:08:13.320 Calls for accountability growing amid bombshell declassifications by Director of National
00:08:18.620 Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard over the past several weeks.
00:08:22.080 A newly declassified 2020 House Intelligence Committee report reigniting scrutiny of the
00:08:27.880 Obama administration's role in shaping the Russian interference narrative that dominated
00:08:33.100 the first Trump administration.
00:08:34.460 DNI gabbard last week releasing the long-buried report finding top intel officials used flawed
00:08:41.180 and selectively filtered intel to construct the President Obama-directed 2017 Intelligence
00:08:48.080 Community Assessment, or ICA.
00:08:50.540 That report famously, and perhaps infamously, claimed Russian President Vladimir Putin,
00:08:56.460 quote, aspired to help then-candidate Trump win the presidency in 2016.
00:09:02.320 Sunday on Fox News, CIA Director John Ratcliffe saying the agency is working to declassify
00:09:08.100 more documents that will reveal cooperation between the Hillary Clinton campaign and the
00:09:13.300 Obama administration's FBI to boost the bogus Steele dossier.
00:09:17.640 Part of what came out last week was about how John Brennan, Clapper, Comey, they all pushed
00:09:23.000 the known fake Steele dossier into intelligence community assessments and as the basis for
00:09:28.140 Crossfire Hurricane and all that.
00:09:29.820 But what hasn't come out yet and what's going to come out is the underlying intelligence that
00:09:34.880 I have spent the last few months making recommendations about final declassification and sent that to
00:09:40.880 the Department of Justice that will come out in the John Durham report classified annex.
00:09:46.020 And what that intelligence shows, Maria, is that part of this was a Hillary Clinton plan, but
00:09:51.320 part of it was an FBI plan to be an accelerant to that fake Steele dossier, to those fake Russia
00:09:59.200 collusion claims by pouring oil on the fire, by amplifying the lie and bearing the truth of
00:10:05.960 what Hillary Clinton was up to.
00:10:09.140 These revelations renewing calls for accountability from Trump allies, with demands to investigate
00:10:14.600 and prosecute those involved for what DNI Gabbard calls a, quote, years-long coup against
00:10:20.100 President Trump.
00:10:21.480 But questions remain about what, if anything, can still be prosecuted given the statute of
00:10:26.540 limitations on the potential crimes.
00:10:28.880 Director Ratcliffe saying there's still time.
00:10:31.800 John Brennan testified to John Durham in August of 2020.
00:10:35.600 He also testified to the House Oversight Committee in 2022.
00:10:39.420 Hillary Clinton testified before John Durham under oath in 2022.
00:10:43.940 James Comey testified before the Senate Committee in September 2020.
00:10:47.920 All of that's within the last five years.
00:10:50.760 And much of that testimony is, frankly, completely inconsistent with what our underlying intelligence
00:10:56.860 that is about to be declassified in the Durham annex, what that reflects.
00:11:01.280 And so, you know, Pam Bondi does have a strike force.
00:11:05.580 It is a different Department of Justice, a different FBI, and an opportunity to look at
00:11:10.540 how these people really did conspire to run a hoax, a fraud on the American people and against
00:11:17.700 Donald Trump's presidency.
00:11:19.520 And so coming forward, we understand that they did this, but now we need to understand how
00:11:24.560 they did this.
00:11:25.360 Former head of the House Intel Committee, Devin Nunes, who ordered the 2020 Intel report
00:11:30.380 analyzing the ICA, on Sunday telling Fox News there is no statute of limitations on conspiracy.
00:11:37.280 All of these hoaxes that happened were done by the same people in many cases, and one led
00:11:43.080 to the other.
00:11:43.740 So you had Hillary starts the collusion hoax.
00:11:47.540 Obama continues the collusion hoax.
00:11:50.300 Mueller continues the collusion hoax.
00:11:52.400 I mean, Mueller and that team, that team of witch hunters should also be looked at everything
00:11:56.680 that they did.
00:11:57.620 Then when Mueller completely flames out, why?
00:12:00.400 Because there was no intelligence that tied Trump to Russia.
00:12:03.200 Then what happens?
00:12:04.500 We get this fake whistleblower from inside the agencies that says that Trump's doing something
00:12:09.720 weird with Ukraine.
00:12:11.980 And so you end up with that.
00:12:13.800 And then you get to the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:12:16.100 And then you get to the raid at Mar-a-Lago.
00:12:17.780 All of that, all of that is happening with, with basically the same two dozen people and
00:12:24.180 media operatives that are all involved in perpetuating, perpetuating these hoaxes.
00:12:30.200 Coming up, defund for thee, security for me, New York City mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdani,
00:12:36.880 who previously called for defunding the police, raises eyebrows with a luxurious wedding bash
00:12:42.540 protected by military style security.
00:12:45.680 Too bad you can't have it.
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00:13:46.480 Far-left Socialist Democrat nominee for New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani taking a short break
00:13:52.740 from the campaign last week to celebrate his new marriage with friends and family in his
00:13:57.040 native Uganda.
00:13:58.440 The radical progressive appearing to try to get ahead of the story last week, posting this
00:14:03.100 video to social media.
00:14:04.300 And since you will undoubtedly read about this trip in the New York Post, inshallah on the
00:14:08.500 front page, here are a few of my humble suggestions for headlines.
00:14:11.580 MIA.
00:14:12.480 Mamdani in Africa.
00:14:14.280 Uganda missed me.
00:14:15.700 He's Kampala-leately crazy.
00:14:18.100 The Afra can't be serious.
00:14:20.020 Carl Kampala-neely investigates Mamdani.
00:14:22.860 Zoe running away.
00:14:24.260 The New York Post indeed reporting on the trip, discovering the candidate who previously called
00:14:29.180 for defunding the police, hosted a, quote, lavish, three-day affair at his family's ritzy, secluded
00:14:35.160 Ugandan compound, complete with masked security guards and a cell phone jamming system.
00:14:41.780 The property reportedly sitting in a wealthy neighborhood with homes easily valued at more
00:14:46.320 than a million dollars and at least one billionaire neighbor.
00:14:49.960 You know, the kind Mamdani says he doesn't believe should exist.
00:14:53.480 According to the Post, the Mamdani family, quote, sits on two acres of lush gardens, surrounded
00:14:59.840 by trees, has breathtaking panoramic views of Lake Victoria, and features at least three
00:15:06.080 security gates.
00:15:07.740 The report raising eyebrows given Mamdani's past support for abolishing private property
00:15:12.240 and defunding and dismantling the NYPD.
00:15:16.400 As a mayoral candidate, Mamdani somewhat softening that stance, focusing on other promises like
00:15:21.760 freezing the rent.
00:15:22.700 In terms of policing, Mamdani kind of backing off calls to defund, though proposing a Department
00:15:29.700 of Community Safety, he says, will be tasked with dispatching social workers to address nonviolent
00:15:36.280 crimes and problems with the mentally ill and homeless.
00:15:39.960 He apparently does not consider domestic violence to be, um, violent because those calls, too,
00:15:46.140 he wants handled by social workers.
00:15:48.980 Mamdani taking incoming for this trip.
00:15:51.120 From his former Democratic primary opponent, the disgraced former governor of New York,
00:15:55.540 Andrew Cuomo, who's now running as an independent in the mayoral race.
00:15:59.780 Cuomo's social media team posting a poll on X responding to the New York Post exclusive,
00:16:04.760 asking whether to call the hypocrisy champagne socialism or trust fund socialism.
00:16:10.160 And that'll do it for your AM update.
00:16:13.080 I'm Megan Kelly.
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