00:06:04.280Let's put a pin in that one, because I come to you directly from X, where I've been arguing with people who just refuse to see reason on this.
00:06:14.520There's still people all over the Internet defending this as like somehow unfair to trans people, attacking Sophie Cunningham as just wanting attention, saying, oh, Caitlin not speaking out is, you know, who could blame her?
00:06:32.280but she was the question was put directly to her and the teammate who's defended her more than any
00:06:38.320other more than any other is twisting in the wind she's twisting in the wind they're attacking her
00:06:45.760they're booing her at every match she could use a little support effort let's do let's do the other
00:06:51.340story later we got to start with this one she could use a little support caitlin that's how
00:06:57.240this generally works. It goes both ways. She's on your team. She always has your back. She could
00:07:02.440use you having hers, but she refused. I'll show you what happened when Caitlin Clark was asked.
00:07:08.880Here it is. South 14. Watch. Caitlin, first time I'm going to speak with you this week.
00:07:14.300It's sort of a straight game, but the demonstration revolving around trans rights before the game,
00:07:19.560just how have you and your teammates navigated this conversation that's happening on the outside?
00:07:24.480for us like you know it's not really a discussion we really have in our locker room i think
00:07:29.720it's for leagues and the governing bodies to work with their athletes to find solutions but our
00:07:33.420focus is on basketball and that's what we talk about and how we can get wins and obviously we
00:07:37.320didn't do that tonight so you need to find an area to improve in that way do you have any you know
00:07:42.660reaction to the i just answered for you okay so it's up to the governing bodies of the leagues
00:07:50.660to, quote, work with their athletes to find a solution. What are you? What are you?
00:07:57.480Are you a leader or a follower? Are you strong or are you cowardly?
00:08:04.800Yes, I realize she's already dealing with a lot of shit in that league. What's one more thing?
00:08:08.620Who cares? Who cares at this point? They hate her. What are the people out there saying? Well,
00:08:13.820she's dealing with a lot. Do you think she actually has a chance of winning these people
00:08:16.960over. She doesn't. They can't stand her because she's white, because she gets all the attention,
00:08:22.980because she's straight. I mean, newsflash, none of those things is going to change.
00:08:28.060These people who can't stand her for those reasons are not winnable. They're not going
00:08:32.180to become Caitlin Clark fans. She has the opportunity to stand up for young women,
00:08:37.260which is far more important than the color of her skin or her sexual preference.
00:08:43.740this actually is a chance to be a leader and to do something that matters for young girls in her
00:08:52.000sport and she did not have the courage of Sophie Cunningham she clearly did not have the courage
00:08:58.740of Sophie Cunningham who got this started when she was on a podcast and was asked the question of
00:09:07.000what do we do about you know boys wanting to play in girls sports and she kindly said I just don't
00:09:13.720think it's the right thing. You know, I believe in girls being able to play girl sports to keep
00:09:20.560them safe and to keep it fair, paraphrasing. And for that, she's received nonstop abuse ever since.
00:09:29.420Jennifer Say and Riley Gaines just went to an Indiana Fever game. That's both Caitlin's and
00:09:35.680Sophie's team. And they said everybody was booing every time Sophie Cunningham was on the court.
00:09:41.800They said they they they cheered as loudly as they could. God bless them. But they, too, got shit from people who were there. This this just happened. It just happened that this other coach. OK, there was an issue with the coach.
00:09:57.300there's been a couple of coaches who have spoken out against Sophie Cunningham, all right?
00:10:07.360And there's been a couple of coaches who have also punted, afraid to say anything. First,
00:10:12.120I'm going to start with Minnesota Lynx coach, Cherry Reeve, okay? She's upset. And this is
00:10:20.240where, I'm trying to see, I think it's number, yeah, yeah, it's not 11. Let's hear it.
00:10:27.300Number one, we need to protect trans kids, every kid.
00:13:34.780And I've got to tell you something else.
00:13:36.160I've got another thing, another bone to pick.
00:13:38.460Every time I comment on this issue on X, et cetera, only post the Israel commentary, by the way, which tells you something about who's ginning up the attacks on me.
00:13:48.240People say, oh, what? Oh, is this you from twenty eighteen?
00:13:51.220My NBC clips, which my audience is well aware of.
00:13:54.160And, you know, that's part of my story on this issue.
00:13:56.840Many of us back in twenty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen were much more accommodating of this trans crew than we are today because the evolution on it has been stunning and dramatic.
00:14:08.700Do these people actually want to tell me that things are the same in 2026 America on the trans issue as they were in 2018?
00:14:37.320Many of us have sat around only to see our schools and our communities and our sports taken over by men in women's sport after sport after sport, locker room after locker room to the point of the farcical where Melody Wisehart up in Canada is swimming as a 12 year old girl, this 50 year old man.
00:15:00.580OK, so we've evolved on this issue. When you see Chloe Cole telling her story as she did on this
00:15:06.680show, one of the first places she came with her testimonial at age 15 about how her boobs got
00:15:11.400chopped off as a pubescent girl only to within months realize she was just depressed. She didn't
00:15:20.140want to change transition genders. It can radicalize you, you effing assholes. And you
00:15:26.440know that, right? But any past stance that's not consistent with the current one has to be used
00:15:32.100against you like you're dishonest as opposed to an honestly evolved person who's now avidly fighting
00:15:38.080for the right cause. Take a look at Riley Gaines' evolution on this. She didn't stand up to Leah
00:15:44.000Thomas. She swam against him. She did stand on the podium next to him. She was forced to. Do you
00:15:49.180think the Riley Gaines of today would do that? Absolutely not. It takes a minute. It takes a
00:15:53.780minute. When she first got active in this space, she was using the male pronouns or the female
00:16:01.500pronouns for men. So was I. Many of us have taken some time to get comfortable with being honest
00:16:09.640because we, especially as women, have been raised to be nice. We have been raised to be liked.
00:16:14.520We have been raised to get pats on the head for being good girls. And it can take a damn lifetime
00:16:18.380time of practice to break that cycle. Caitlin Clark appears to be still in it and needs needs
00:16:27.020help. She needs help breaking out of it. Here's thought 12. This is ESPN's Rebecca Lobo, who heard
00:16:35.320that same coach that we just played from the Minnesota Lynx, Sherry Reeves, Cheryl Reeves.
00:16:43.340And this was her reaction, very different from the one you just heard here.
00:16:47.060Well, we see Cheryl Reed wearing a shirt today in support of trans kids.
00:17:44.620I will make I will let you make all your points instead of just trying to propagandize the ESPN audience, which you would fall out of your damn chair if you saw LeBron James show up at an Indiana fever game.
00:18:39.740They are not in the women's locker room because they think they're women.
00:18:43.440They're there because they suffer from a condition known as autogynephilia.
00:18:48.100And this condition is a sexual fetish that causes you to become erect and get turned on as an intact male by showing yourself dressed as a woman to other women.
00:19:04.080Why don't you Google Cheryl Planet Fitness, California man jerks off in women's stall as a young woman came in there and we all clearly saw the shadow of a guy jerking himself off in the women's stall of that bathroom.
00:19:25.080And the only reason I can say it to you so confidently is because she had the forethought
00:19:31.700to whip out her phone and film the shadow, which you could clearly see what he was doing.
00:19:38.300And she and her boyfriend bravely confronted this man because they can become violent.
00:26:37.800caitlin clark's getting dragged into it they're asking it's a nuclear story on something that i
00:26:44.580don't know how many people it actually affects and here's how i look at it if you are born if
00:26:51.040you can't have danny almonte little league superstar being like i want to be a girl and
00:26:56.020dominating little league all-stars but if you have a bunch of kids and none of it matters and again
00:27:00.480i don't get the age who cares so i i it's crazy to me that this story is that big and i don't
00:27:07.260think sophie cuttingham said anything that that's great that is that crazy or worthy of this type of
00:27:13.380controversy but like with anything in the wmba it takes on a a world of its own okay here's the
00:27:24.680answer to that first of all it is irrelevant how many girls this is happening to one is enough
00:27:31.360One girl like Peyton McNabb with brain damage as a result of a man posing as a woman, nailing her in the head with a volleyball is enough.
00:27:43.460That is not the relevant question. Stop asking that. Not not mad at Dave Portnoy.
00:27:48.160Just saying, stop asking that. It's irrelevant how many there are.
00:27:52.380The answer is clearly there are enough. How many would be enough for the doubters?
00:27:57.140not Dave, but again, this Minnesota Lynx coach was raising the similar questions, but not in a
00:28:01.580genuinely searching way that Dave is. How many would be enough for her to say, let's stand up
00:28:08.140for girls? How many have to get hurt? Exactly. Does my daughter have to get hurt? Does your
00:28:12.580daughter have to get hurt? How many? Okay. So one is enough. That's, that's the actual answer.
00:28:19.420And also if it's only a handful, then this is a non-issue. Let's ban them and move on.
00:28:24.540if it's just a just a few we're not hurting many trans people so let's just move on
00:28:29.420right okay no problem if it's so few then why do you object like this shouldn't be a big issue
00:28:37.160it's not some big trans issue but secondly thirdly i guess um there there are significant
00:28:44.540numbers of girls getting hurt having unfairness injected into their sport and potentially losing
00:28:51.660scholarships, medals like we saw in the Olympics and so on. And here's some data that I pulled
00:28:58.800from January 2025. It's from a pro trans outlet called Out Sports, who, if anything, has a reason
00:29:04.380to understate the number of trans athletes playing in college sports. They state that there have been
00:29:09.320well over 40 out trans athletes competing in college sports. Quote, Out Sports knows there
00:29:15.920are countless other trans athletes who have competed at the collegiate levels who have not
00:29:19.860been publicly out. They give examples. Fordham basketball player Bryson Kavanaugh decided to
00:29:27.300forego his senior season and the WNBA draft to come out and begin his transition. There are many
00:29:33.300others they go on to list. They go on to say three of these trans people have won a national
00:29:37.560championship. Leah Thomas in swimming, CeCe Tefler in track and field, Brayden Abramson in bowling.
00:29:43.640Several others have earned conference honors that did not belong to them, that were supposed to go to women.
00:29:52.500As for high schoolers, the University of California, Los Angeles, UCLA School of Law put out these estimates in February 2025.
00:30:00.020Quote, we estimate that there are as many as 122,000, 122,000 transgender youth athletes who could be participating in high school level team athletics right now.
00:30:12.320ages 13 to 17, 122,000. A United Nations study revealed in October 2024 that trans athletes have
00:30:21.820won nearly 900 medals in women's competition. These wins happened in over 400 competitions in
00:30:28.00029 sports. The study concluded that, quote, male athletes have specific attributes considered
00:30:32.840advantageous in certain sports such as strength and testosterone levels, which are higher than
00:30:37.800average range for females even before puberty, even before, but especially after, thereby resulting
00:30:47.440in the loss of fair opportunity, concluding males must not compete in the female categories of
00:30:53.720sport. That is from the United Nations, all right? Not exactly known for their fair and balanced take
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00:32:28.040Stu, welcome to the show. I'm just, it's like I'm over it.
00:32:33.840I can tell. I can tell. And you should be over it. These are not controversial issues. We can
00:32:39.860all pretend that they're controversial issues. We can all have these conversations and treat
00:32:44.240these things like we're going back and forth about some 50 50 issue but that's not what this is
00:32:50.440all people including every coach that you showed including every commentator that we heard from
00:32:55.780all of them know what the truth is here all of them know that these people who are saying they
00:33:00.980are women are not women and we all understand that if draw this to this logical conclusion
00:33:07.760here, Megan. If inclusivity is what they want, if they embrace having men play their sport,
00:33:16.480what we will have is a lack of existence of the WNBA, because there will be no women in it.
00:33:23.160This isn't a knock on women. Women are incredibly talented and very important
00:33:27.460in our society, of course. But when you're talking about physical ability, like running and jumping
00:36:42.180It is not mean to look at a child, a boy who says, I think I'm a girl and say, you're not.
00:36:46.300And you never will be or can be. It is not mean it is true. And in fact, it is kind to all involved to stick with reality. Not not just the boy trying to get into the sports, but the girls as well. You know, I mean, they need somebody to protect them. And it's just we're not getting it. You know, and I'm like I said, I don't mean to make this all about Caitlin Clark because I admire generally what she's doing.
00:37:10.560and she's got another host of problems that she's dealing with.
00:40:42.020I mean, you mentioned, and we've talked about this before,
00:40:44.780There are certain issues that have continually been recognized by medical authorities as, you know, issues that people are dealing with when it comes to their identity.
00:40:55.300These can be really serious and difficult for families to deal with, and I can't even imagine what it would be like to go through something like that.
00:41:01.860That being said, we have empathy for those people, but we cannot express that empathy by lying to ourselves.
00:41:08.600We cannot express that empathy by telling people things that are not true and acting as if they are.
00:41:31.660And it is really important for girls to have the opportunities to play in this sport that I love so much.
00:41:37.420That is not a controversial statement. I understand why she I mean, look, she wants to avoid it because of everything that's happening in the aftermath of it.
00:41:43.700I get the PR strategy, but sometimes things are bigger than PR.
00:41:48.380Yes. The Caitlin Clark was sitting there next to her coach of the Indiana Fever, who's also been a scoundrel on this issue.
00:41:56.940Stephanie White. Listen to her here inside.
00:42:00.080What is your stance on men or athletes who tested biological male participating in women's sports?
00:42:06.180what's your personal stance yeah i mean i'm i don't know that i would say that i'm educated
00:42:11.260enough from a scientific standpoint i don't ever believe that exclusion is an answer i just don't
00:42:17.180um i i do think um you know when we think about various levels of sport um various governing
00:42:24.420bodies of sport and things that go into that like i said i'm not i'm not educated enough at the
00:42:28.860different levels um i know growing up i played with the boys all the time so you were girl sports
00:42:34.020Would you welcome a biological male in WNBA?
00:42:37.960Again, it's like, I don't know when we talk about biological male and scientifically where we are.
00:42:44.160I think it's a totally different scenario.
00:42:46.880You know, as I said, I'm not educated enough in terms of transgender and transitioning to give you a smart answer.
00:43:55.200They're not going to give it to her the way they give it to each other.
00:43:57.760They're going to understand she's a woman.
00:43:58.820They're going to have respect for her physically. They're going to let her, you know, whatever.
00:44:02.440They're going to shoot, let her shoot points in a way they might not, a male competitor.
00:44:06.880They're definitely not going to be as rough on her because most men are not complete cads and would understand when playing against a woman, there are certain things you do and don't do.
00:44:15.280That is totally different from inviting a man into a woman's league, pretending that he's one of them and saying, have at them still.
00:45:09.220Like, my son and my daughter played on the same basketball team when they were five and six years old.
00:45:13.680It wouldn't be appropriate now, necessarily, for them to do that.
00:45:17.440And, you know, you kind of get this place where, you know, we've been in, you may have noticed occasional controversy around commentary that you've made, Megan, maybe once or twice.
00:55:35.100And like the transitions feel relatively seamless.
00:55:37.700You know, some days better than others.
00:55:39.740That is one of the reasons why people like the show.
00:55:43.740i love my staff and they're a huge part of the success of the program as as you know are you
00:55:57.960i have loved hearing from all of you who have joined the documentary so far again that's just
00:56:03.100episode one and episode two we didn't plan this but it's extremely timely um we go deep on this
00:56:10.320whole trans debate and protecting women's spaces. I mean, truly it's like an in-depth, but fair and
00:56:17.460balanced 60 minutes episode, this thing. It's like, you will learn a lot about how we got to
00:56:25.160this level of insanity. You will be reminded of some of our best guests who have helped us over
00:56:31.380the years get to where we are. And, um, I think you, you may laugh and cry just as I did and
00:56:37.880watching it. This episode in particular was kind of emotional to watch. So head on over to
00:56:42.820youtube.com slash Megan Kelly. Just click join and I'll see you over there. We're going to be doing
00:56:48.140a Q&A with yours truly soon. And maybe we'll talk about this insanity and hear from all of you
00:56:54.680directly, especially after episode two posts. So check it out. Okay. I want to get to this epic
00:57:01.000showdown yesterday on CNN with State of the Union co-host Dana Bash battling HHS Secretary
00:57:08.980RFKJ over covid. She was out of her league. Here's a bit of how that went. You have been placing
00:57:17.260nearly all the blame on the covid pandemic and the way that the U.S. responded to it squarely
00:57:24.840with Dr. Fauci. But of course, he worked for President Trump. Does President Trump also
00:57:30.120deserve some of the blame? Well, you know, President Trump, as you recall, wanted to
00:57:36.140end the lockdowns. I think the thing that did the most damage to our country was the lockdowns.
00:57:43.920Well, the lockdowns were done by governors. I mean, certainly Anthony Fauci and the president
00:57:49.380had opinions, but the lockdowns were done by governors and largely because and largely because
00:57:54.720largely because they were hearing they were hearing from hospitals saying that their icus
00:58:00.780were overrun and they needed some help while that was happening that's just not true you're saying
00:58:06.720it's not true no they were doing it because anthony fauci was telling them from the top
00:58:12.160you need to lock down there were icus that were empty all over the country including in new york
00:58:17.660at the height. She should be embarrassed that that's not even up for debate. Does she not read
00:58:25.400the news on which she's reporting? Did she not see Fauci's own diary entry that Senator Rand Paul
00:58:31.020made public last week? He's literally bragging about being responsible for the lockdowns.
00:58:36.140Here is what he wrote on March 15th, 2020. That was like the first day of the lockdown.
00:58:42.640Quote, I spoke with Bill de Blasio, that was the mayor of New York, and convinced him based on what
00:58:47.120I was saying publicly and my conversation tonight to close the New York City schools. I convinced
00:58:53.180him. Then he goes on to say he'd already decided based on what I was saying on TV. I went on to
00:58:59.500tell him he should close the bars and the restaurants in New York City. He said he would
00:59:03.280base this on my recommendation. And lo and behold, he did. I had a similar call with Ann O'Leary,
00:59:09.280the chief of staff of Governor Gavin Newsom of California, and said that based on my TV
00:59:14.580appearances today and yesterday, the governor has decided to close the schools in California,
00:59:20.580as well as the bars and restaurants. Though, as we would all later find out, the governor would not
00:59:25.800adhere to his own bans as he dined at French Laundry, scuttling down wine by the barrel.
00:59:33.300And Dr. Fauci bragged in his diary about texting with this biased anchor, Dana Bash herself. Maybe
00:59:38.960that's why she's too much of a P word to bring up Fauci's diary entries, but she should at least
00:59:44.020be reading them because she's in there. Okay. Here's his entry from April 17th, 2021 relating
00:59:51.520to a Fauci exchange in front of Congress that aired on television with Congressman Jim Jordan.
00:59:58.360Dana Bash sent me a text. He writes, I just watched the whole Jordan thing again. You're
01:00:04.200a better man than I, as our friend Wolf Blitzer said to me yesterday, no one would have blamed
01:00:10.060to you if you said simply, Mr. Jordan, go F yourself. I mean, this is like, it makes you
01:00:16.700feel for Chris Licht. Remember Chris Licht, who is the executive producer for the Stephen Colbert
01:00:22.260show, and they brought him over to run CNN when Jeff Zucker got fired. And he, he, while he had
01:00:28.640come from Stephen Colbert, his mission, and he understood it, was to try to make CNN a little
01:00:33.080bit more fair and balanced. They tried to have that Trump town hall, which Caitlin Collins showed
01:00:36.720up with her nasty, unhappy face and was nasty to Trump in. He did a couple that he tried to make
01:00:43.200it a little bit more fair and balanced. This is what he was up against. Our friend, Dana and Wolf
01:00:48.940and Jake Tapper's having dinner with Fauci, exchanging how notes on how awful Laura Ingram
01:00:53.660is. And then now these two, you go fuck yourself, Jim Jordan. I mean, truly. Chris licked. You
01:01:00.240didn't stand a chance. What happened there was not your fault. Okay. It didn't stop there yesterday.
01:01:05.680Dan Abash decided it would be a good idea to challenge Kennedy on censorship.
01:01:13.120Oh, my God. That's like, this is such a pretty shark. I wonder what would happen if I stuck my bloody hand in the water.
01:01:20.060Let's see. Look, it's such a pretty, pretty great white shark. Does he respond to blood?
01:01:25.960Let's see. Here she is challenging Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on censorship during COVID, as well as the efficacy of the vaccine when it comes to children.
01:01:40.920How do you prepare for the next pandemic?
01:01:43.280The principal thing that we need to do is we need to listen to what's happening to doctors on the ground.
01:01:48.300The other thing that I would say is that we need to protect our constitutional rights.
01:01:54.840that that is the primary obligation. What does that mean? Well, during COVID, we completely
01:02:01.300dismantled our constitutional rights. Doctors who were saying you're doing it wrong
01:02:05.880were being marginalized and vilified. And because because, again, I really want to move on.
01:02:12.500But yeah, you were saying you were part of the problem. No, I wasn't. It was absolute
01:02:19.060press malpractice you weren't allowing your mr secretary your job your job is a fierce skepticism
01:02:26.860toward authority and you weren't doing that you were beating my job is no okay are you gonna you
01:02:34.540want to sit here and attack me or do you want to have conversations about public i'm not attacking
01:02:39.120you also don't want to use this interview to allow you to say things that aren't entirely true you're
01:02:46.600talking about therapeutics, fine. It is also factually true that the COVID vaccine worked.
01:02:53.040Do you think the COVID vaccine protected children?
01:02:57.120I think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors about.
01:03:01.420Can you look, can you show me one study?
01:04:15.260They are not defending Fauci for lying.
01:04:17.140They are defending themselves for lying.
01:04:19.340Here's a reminder of how Dana Bash interviewed government officials at the height of the pandemic in December 2020.
01:04:26.700You are seen to many as a superhero, but you are a human being.
01:04:31.600And you've been working nonstop since all of this began, communicating with the public, trying to get a handle on this pandemic in terms of the science.
01:04:39.640So how do you keep yourself going in the face of all of this death and disease?
01:04:47.680You know, Donnie, Dana, it's really just focusing on the enormity of the problem and the fact that I do have a role in the response to this problem.
01:04:56.320You don't have time for feeling sorry for yourself that you're tired or that you feel like you just got to suck it up, as it were.
01:05:03.800I use that because that's what it feels like sometime.
01:15:04.120And because it's not your life on a day-to-day basis, getting yourself as a host into a position where you can actually do a good job at an interview like that is difficult, right?
01:15:17.560And honestly, it seemed like she took the day off, frankly, when she was supposed to be preparing for this.
01:15:22.380You know, RFK Jr., I really agree with him on some things and not on others.
01:15:28.360Honestly, I'm not the biggest RFK Jr. fan in the world.
01:15:31.820And a part of that goes back to when I used to hear him, I think, use a lot of the tactics that Dana Bash uses and CNN uses when it comes to the topic of global warming.
01:15:41.560He was constantly appealing to authority.
01:15:43.800He was constantly saying he is a Democrat at heart.
01:17:46.500They're just going to stick to what's in there.
01:17:48.560And it doesn't matter what catastrophe befalls the country or the world as a result of their wrongheaded talking points that they've been allowing unchallenged or spewing themselves.
01:18:01.440They are on team blue and they will not deviate from team blue no matter what.
01:18:08.120It's like that's why that's that's why they didn't cover Joe Biden's diminishing mental faculties.
01:18:14.760That's why they're still pushing all the nonsense about how there's absolutely nothing controversial about the vaccines, which have killed people.
01:18:23.160They have killed Americans, including teenagers.
01:18:26.540So fuck you, Dana Bash, for not knowing that and at least acknowledging that there are still families grieving over what those vaccines did in too many cases.
01:18:35.840It's just that we're never going to change them.
01:18:38.720You know, I mean, I guess people already know that. But some every once in a while, somebody does something where it smacks you right in the face and you're like, whoa, OK, they're just as dug in as ever.
01:18:49.080Yeah. And, you know, first of all, I hope that we have the same look back situation that we're having right now on the Fauci stuff with the President Biden and his mental capacity side of this.
01:19:01.820We really need the same level of attention that we're getting right now with people like Iran Paul, who has just been an absolute bulldog on this from the beginning and has not given up.
01:19:10.800And without someone like him, yeah, I really don't think anyone would be held accountable to this.
01:19:15.580You know, he really has led the charge on making sure in the government, at least, that people are held accountable.
01:19:22.780I hope that we find another bulldog in the government who does the exact same thing on Joe Biden.
01:19:27.760We can't just let it go that we didn't have a president for multiple years.
01:19:31.640This is a really, really important thing that you mentioned, and I want to make sure that we hit on that.
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01:20:58.120It makes me at times stronger and stronger in the position that I have.
01:21:02.280I don't feel like I need to hold back at all because I've been challenged by people who are actually coming at me sometimes with real kindness, but sometimes with real anger.
01:21:12.500Whatever it is, you're pushed all the time.
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01:30:15.620So Stu, this is the story. Mayor Mamdani, who is a socialist, shock, shock, is doing socialist
01:30:27.100things. But it's how he's doing them that is really upsetting the libs. All right, now I just
01:30:33.940want to make sure that we explain to the audience. So on July 24th, in an ex post, he posted the
01:30:41.120following. If you have a second home in New York City worth more than $5 million, check your
01:30:46.440mailbox when you're back in the five boroughs because you've got mail. Today, we sent notification
01:30:52.440letters to property owners letting them know that our new pied-a-terre tax is coming soon
01:30:57.020the best city in the world deserves the best parks libraries and schools in the world that's only
01:31:02.380possible when we all pay our fair share because you know the millionaires of new york are not
01:31:09.520paying their fair share sure sure by the way i just want you to know um because i mean it truly
01:31:15.380it is bullshit like the amount that they pay um this guy is running for comptroller of new york
01:31:22.200And he said, I looked into who's really paying our taxes in New York, and he said 0.2% of all businesses filing in New York, which is just about 800 corporations, carry 74% of the entire corporate tax burden.
01:31:36.280And he said 99,000 millionaires, well under 1% of taxpayers, cover 44.6% of all income tax collected.
01:31:49.420And then he said the top 200 individuals alone pay $5.5 billion to the state annually.
01:31:58.060New York State relies on roughly 100,000 people.
01:32:00.700New York State relies on roughly 100,000 people to fund its entire budget, he says, the entire budget.
01:32:08.300He says our tax base, they're walking out the door.
01:34:02.800He's taken a legitimate source of tax revenue
01:34:05.560and he's turned it into a wanted poster.
01:34:07.580And the question I would have is, other than trying to identify and imply these people have done something wrong, and then 18 months after a health care CEO was executed in the street, and then published the list, what is the upside here?
01:38:37.500And they put people like this in power who are incredibly dangerous.
01:38:42.440Momdani is a massive danger to not only that city, but our entire country.
01:38:47.820Yeah, it is not safe for most of the people who have been outed to have their home address outed on a public website and called attention to by the mayor.
01:38:56.880It is effed up. I mean, I don't have any disagreement with that point.
01:39:00.160It's just, hey, you voted for it. You voted for it.
01:39:03.700I guess you didn't glean how much he hated the rich by him talking about how there shouldn't be billionaires.
01:39:10.620and he was going to try to do something about it.
01:39:12.940Good Lord, sounds like he's actually trying
01:39:14.460to cause them physical violence to get rid of them.
01:39:17.260I mean, what would you do differently if you wanted that?