The Megyn Kelly Show - WNBA Race Hoax, Michelle Obama's Grudge Against Barack, and Cagey FBI Epstein Comments, with Glenn Greenwald ｜ Ep. 1083

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00:00:15.620 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:26.840 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

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00:00:30.240 Another race hoax takes center stage, this time in the WNBA.

00:00:34.760 This story has had many twists and turns over the past week, so we're going to walk you through

00:00:38.840 how it all unraveled in spectacular fashion.

00:00:42.240 It all started on May 17th during the WNBA season opener when Caitlin Clark's team, 0.83

00:00:47.600 the Indiana Fever, faced off against the Chicago Sky, home to player Angel Jussie Smollett-Reese.

00:00:56.240 Just kidding.

00:00:57.160 Angel Reese was the competitor.

00:00:59.100 During the game, Caitlin Clark received a flagrant foul call against Reese.

00:01:05.680 In other words, Caitlin committed the foul.

00:01:07.540 After slapping her arm, Reese fell to the ground momentarily before jumping up to follow Clark

00:01:12.700 across the court, angry at the foul.

00:01:15.600 Keep in mind, she's committed umpteen numbers of these against Caitlin Clark, including she was the one who shh'd with the fingernails,

00:01:24.600 but she was very angry that she'd been pushed, she felt, by Clark.

00:01:29.380 Clark said there was nothing malicious behind the foul, and it's just a part of the game.

00:01:33.420 Reese appeared to agree, eventually saying, all right, it was just a basketball play.

00:01:37.620 Then after the game, the Associated Press reported the WNBA was launching an investigation into alleged racial abuse 0.98

00:01:45.560 directed at Reese by Fever fans, fans, you know, rooting for Caitlin Clark.

00:01:51.440 The WNBA confirmed the investigation in a statement that read in part,

00:01:56.160 the WNBA strongly condemns racism, hate, and discrimination in all forms.

00:02:01.280 They have no place in our league or in our society.

00:02:04.440 We are aware of the allegations and are looking into the matter.

00:02:06.900 Then, Reese had a change of heart.

00:02:10.600 She posted a TikTok video, which included this screenshot.

00:02:14.940 It shows Clark walking away from Reese after the foul with the message,

00:02:19.180 white gal running from the fade.

00:02:22.440 It has since been taken down by Reese.

00:02:25.520 Reese then spoke to reporters about how the alleged racism hurled her way 1.00

00:02:29.840 was very hard to deal with during the game.

00:02:33.400 Obviously, there's no place to sleep for that.

00:02:35.480 I think the WNBA, our team, and our organization has done a great job supporting me.

00:02:40.000 I've had communication from everyone, from so many people across this league

00:02:44.060 and being able to support me.

00:02:45.740 Going through this whole process, obviously, it could happen to me.

00:02:48.740 It could happen to anyone.

00:02:49.600 I think they've done a great job supporting us in this.

00:02:51.880 How did it affect you Saturday, trying to do your job, trying to play,

00:02:55.280 and having this going on simultaneously?

00:02:57.540 Yeah, obviously it's tough, but I think I have a great support system.

00:03:00.260 I'm loved by so many people.

00:03:02.120 And obviously, in the moment, it's hard to hear.

00:03:04.700 But my support system is great.

00:03:07.600 God has protected me.

00:03:09.040 What do you think the league's response is coming out right away

00:03:10.960 and getting that investigation going?

00:03:12.420 Yeah, obviously, like I said, they understand that this is the priority.

00:03:16.760 Obviously, there's no place for this.

00:03:18.140 And they preached, I think, two days before, they put out no hate, no speech.

00:03:21.320 And obviously, the women in this league, they know that. 1.00

00:03:24.560 And they know there's no space for that.

00:03:25.920 Okay, so now we're at, it was hard to hear when it happened.

00:03:32.880 What happened exactly?

00:03:34.760 You were subjected to racism?

00:03:36.440 What specifically?

00:03:37.120 What happened?

00:03:37.720 It was hard to hear.

00:03:38.860 If it can happen to me, it can happen.

00:03:40.820 And did it happen to you?

00:03:42.620 What exactly is your evidence that anything at all happened to you involving racism from the Fever fans?

00:03:50.240 Okay, well, the evidence for why an investigation was launched by the WNBA was unspecified.

00:03:57.620 The Daily Mail reported that Reese's coach and team only found out about the racism allegations when everyone else did.

00:04:05.300 And they were not aware of any hate speech during the game.

00:04:09.140 Angel Reese did not run off the court saying, somebody said something racist to me. 0.90

00:04:14.000 Now, the latest news is that they heard anonymous social media commentators saying there was racism.

00:04:22.380 Oh, that's how you began your investigation?

00:04:24.480 So nobody in the arena was actually complaining?

00:04:27.520 She wasn't complaining?

00:04:28.820 You, the coaches, didn't hear anything?

00:04:30.500 It's some anonymous social media users who got this started.

00:04:33.780 That's reliable.

00:04:34.640 Now, some claim the evidence was alleged monkey sounds being made, they said, by the crowd when Reese made the free throw shot that came as a result of the flagrant foul.

00:04:48.580 Listen here.

00:04:50.320 It's a flagrant.

00:04:52.240 And then Chicago will maintain the basketball.

00:05:00.280 Reese misses.

00:05:01.280 I don't know what that is.

00:05:05.280 To me, it sounds like a noisemaker, one of those weird noisemakers that you might use on New Year's Eve, which is very common during these free show, free throw shots to distract the opposing team's player.

00:05:17.960 But it certainly doesn't jump out at me as a monkey sound.

00:05:21.900 And it probably doesn't jump out at you that way either.

00:05:25.000 It's people who are looking for these alleged claims.

00:05:28.640 And by the way, like who in a crowded arena would actually do such a thing, right?

00:05:34.180 It's like the people who think that there are racists and racism everywhere in America.

00:05:39.700 Those are the ones who go to that place.

00:05:42.220 But without any supporting evidence, nothing more than a statement put out by the WNBA about unspecified racism, and now we know that's based on social media users, some sports analysts had no problem declaring, oh, it happened.

00:05:58.400 There's racism at these WNBA games. 1.00

00:06:00.900 Listen to what ESPN's Monica McNutt and Cheney Ogumaki and Emmanuel Achiu of Fox Sports all had to say.

00:06:12.080 The aftermath, the fact that the WNBA has to put out a statement because of racist comments and unsafe conditions toward Angel Reese, like, I just want people to be mindful.

00:06:22.540 If this was the other way around, oh, Lord, you can only imagine how the conversation would have gone.

00:06:26.720 When it comes to racism and the hateful rhetoric and the statement that the WNBA is saying, I think it's important because at the end of the day, if you are truly a basketball fan, you would understand and agree.

00:06:36.580 We have no space in our game for those types of comments.

00:06:39.560 People are using this situation as a cover for their innate vitriol and maybe their innate kind of racism or racial tension or racial misunderstanding.

00:06:48.420 And now that they have been given a reason, at least a reason that they're going to try to take, which is Angel Reese reacting to Caitlin Clark's vow.

00:06:55.580 Now this is their opportunity to say what they always wanted to say, but they needed a mask to put on to cover up the innate, whether it's racism or the innate prejudice or just the innate hate.

00:07:06.020 That they have for Angel Reese in the way in which she carries herself.

00:07:10.840 Okay.

00:07:11.820 You heard the one commentator say those types of comments.

00:07:14.860 What, what comments were they, sir?

00:07:17.500 What, what specifically walk us through them?

00:07:19.580 He has no idea.

00:07:21.620 And Acho alluding to fans being comfortable spewing racism while wearing masks.

00:07:27.260 What, what was the racism that was spewed?

00:07:29.760 What masks?

00:07:30.820 What again, what evidence are you citing?

00:07:32.800 Walk us through it.

00:07:33.400 You're a journalist, right?

00:07:34.340 You purport to be a sports journalist, commentator.

00:07:37.800 Walk us through it.

00:07:38.500 Totally open-minded.

00:07:39.420 Let's do it.

00:07:41.440 It took the WNBA 10 days to announce the results of its investigation, releasing a statement on Tuesday, reading,

00:07:48.520 based on information gathered to date, including from relevant fans, teams, and arena staff,

00:07:53.700 as well as audio and video review of the game, we have not substantiated it.

00:07:58.040 So, that's it?

00:08:01.660 You got everybody worked up over absolutely nothing.

00:08:05.120 You have not substantiated any allegations of race.

00:08:09.220 Maybe we shouldn't run with anonymous social media users' allegations.

00:08:12.960 I don't, like, perhaps social media is not the most reliable source for massive racism investigations

00:08:20.240 without anybody who was actually there having heard, seen, or witnessed it.

00:08:25.620 And maybe you should fill in the lines a bit more when you announce that your big race hoax was exactly that. 0.89

00:08:32.360 Maybe release the transcripts of the athletes to whom you spoke or the fans.

00:08:37.140 One would assume they spoke to Angel Reese.

00:08:39.200 What did she say?

00:08:40.060 She said in that clip, if it can happen to me, it can happen to you.

00:08:42.780 It was hard to hear.

00:08:44.320 Was it?

00:08:45.240 What specifically did she hear?

00:08:47.100 And how was it hard on her?

00:08:49.260 Did she?

00:08:50.120 Was she asked?

00:08:51.540 What was the answer?

00:08:52.940 She said it could happen to her.

00:08:54.120 It could happen to anybody.

00:08:54.860 Can it?

00:08:55.740 What specifically happened?

00:08:57.440 Don't WNBA fans have a right to know? 1.00

00:08:59.460 What about people of color who go to these games and have to sit there wondering whether there are all these

00:09:03.660 rabid racists all around them?

00:09:05.480 Don't they deserve to fully understand the scope of your investigation? 0.95

00:09:10.980 Clay Travis put it best, saying Reese is Jussie Smollett with a worse shooting percentage.

00:09:17.800 Totally agree.

00:09:19.440 And now one of the hosts in that montage we just played has changed her tune.

00:09:24.120 ESPN's Chanae Ugumake took to X following the WNBA's announcement, and there she claimed she's committed to doing better.

00:09:35.200 And her initial take was in the heat of the moment.

00:09:38.380 If you know me, you know I'm not afraid to say I can do better.

00:09:42.900 I am sorry that my message was in the heat of the moment because when I initially spoke on the topic, it really came from a place of care.

00:09:49.340 It was based on firsthand conversations with people very close to the situation who raised real concerns, and they told me what they had experienced.

00:09:56.980 And I felt like it was important and it was necessary to acknowledge those allegations and also voice those experiences.

00:10:03.980 Now, in the process, however, I totally recognize that it may have impacted fans in a way that I did not intend, and I am sorry.

00:10:10.880 I understand that having a platform comes with a responsibility, and I do not take that lightly.

00:10:17.540 So as our league continues to grow, I am going to grow with it.

00:10:21.040 And I am so committed to be better in how I share perspectives and grow alongside the game that I truly love and adore. 0.59

00:10:29.280 This is ridiculous.

00:10:31.700 Don't worry. 0.99

00:10:32.880 There's never any penalty for fake racism reports.

00:10:37.000 None.

00:10:37.320 She knows very well she can proceed with impunity on such reporting.

00:10:42.900 By the way, she did not address her own false reporting.

00:10:46.260 Let me tell you how it's done.

00:10:48.100 When you say something that is totally false on the air, you have to go out.

00:10:53.880 And by the way, it needs to happen in the same forum in which you committed the sin.

00:10:57.160 Not on social media, which is a coward's way out.

00:11:01.040 You go and you look into the same camera into which you made the first allegation,

00:11:05.680 and you say, here is what I said, and that was wrong, and this is how I know it was wrong,

00:11:13.040 and then you do your apology.

00:11:15.400 She didn't even address the falseness that she spewed.

00:11:19.520 I'll just, I'll do better.

00:11:21.040 I'll do better.

00:11:22.080 Please forgive me.

00:11:22.880 She had reported that players and coaches, that's a quote, of Chicago Sky, quote,

00:11:31.220 heard things that were out of bounds coming from fans, and that the matter was serious.

00:11:36.700 That was her reporting.

00:11:38.300 Okay, so that's not a heat of the moment take.

00:11:41.860 Yet there does seem to be racism in the WNBA,

00:11:45.240 one with much more clear evidence that is being totally ignored outside of conservative media.

00:11:50.820 Last week, Brittany Griner and her team faced off against the fever and Caitlin Clark. 0.99

00:11:57.680 As you may remember, back in 2022, Griner was arrested in Russia on drug charges.

00:12:04.120 The Biden administration had to do a prisoner swap to get her back, 0.93

00:12:08.440 handing over an international arms dealer known as the Merchant of Death,

00:12:12.460 which we traded to get this gal back. 1.00

00:12:15.580 You would think she'd want to steer clear of any controversy and be feeling nothing other than love of country. 0.61

00:12:23.280 You would probably be wrong.

00:12:25.940 In a viral clip, after she made a foul play, Griner appears to mouth something rather controversial. 1.00

00:12:35.440 It might be, though we don't know, trash and possibly fucking white girl. 1.00

00:12:41.440 Others have suggested it might be trash and fucking whack call. 1.00

00:12:48.040 We don't know what she's mouthing, but she seems to, yeah, have a mouth on her and not exactly be in the gratitude space. 0.98

00:12:57.200 Griner herself hasn't commented.

00:12:58.640 Now, why is that?

00:12:59.980 If you were being accused of making racist statements, I think you'd want to clear that up quickly. 0.98

00:13:04.160 You'd race to the cameras and put out a statement on X to say, I said fucking whack call. 0.99

00:13:09.580 I didn't say effing white girl, but she's not. 1.00

00:13:13.700 She's apparently totally comfortable letting those allegations linger. 0.61

00:13:17.360 Maybe she's worried that the people on the bench or the people right behind her had a recording going.

00:13:23.320 You know how people do?

00:13:24.000 They record the game.

00:13:24.960 They want to show their friends that they were there.

00:13:27.380 Maybe she's concerned that if she comes out and says it's one thing, there might be proof that it was something else.

00:13:32.700 We don't know because she's not speaking to it, which is odd.

00:13:35.700 And Outkick reports that on Saturday, after that clip received millions of views, not a single reporter asked Griner about it.

00:13:44.840 Not a single reporter.

00:13:47.400 So maybe Griner knows the story will disappear because, again, fake allegations of racism.

00:13:53.920 Nobody holds that against you.

00:13:56.140 Anti-white racism.

00:13:57.920 Nobody holds that against you.

00:13:59.320 That's fine.

00:14:00.400 No problem.

00:14:00.900 And she can behave with impunity and understand that these powerful voices within the sports industry will run cover for her and do the work of attacking alleged anti-black racism where it doesn't exist.

00:14:17.000 Here to help break it all down, we go to Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and host of Rumble's System Update, Glenn Greenwald.

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00:15:30.480 Glenn, great to see you.

00:15:31.800 So what do you make of the latest fake racism claim out of the WNBA? 0.88

00:15:36.720 Women's basketball has been struggling for attention for basically 40 years now while a lot of other women's sports thrive.

00:15:43.760 You know, women's tennis and women's soccer and for a time women's golf all got this, you know, serious attention.

00:15:50.460 And women's basketball, nobody cared about.

00:15:52.900 And now suddenly they have the set of stars that people are interested in, these interesting rivalries, these dynamics.

00:15:59.880 You know, like the Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark kind of rivalry is something that is good for sport.

00:16:05.840 And yet they seem like they're stuck in this bubble, this time machine of 2019 and 2020 where every single hair trigger event became an excuse to scream racism and launch, you know, federal investigations.

00:16:17.400 And you compare it to like the NBA, the Major League Baseball, you know, National Football League, all of which have a lot of racial mixing within their teams.

00:16:27.000 And there seems to be none of this basically.

00:16:29.620 And this is a sport, you know, a league that has gone out of its way to be very vocal about its left wing politics.

00:16:37.520 And it's like they imported 2020, you know, racial hair trigger scandals where none existed when the whole country has now moved beyond it.

00:16:46.440 And the worst are the sports reporters who basically destroyed their own credibility by no longer talking about sports and wanting to get up on their soapbox.

00:16:54.000 And the fact that the person did it here and seems to have invented racism accusations, which are pretty serious, is just the kind of thing that, as you said, generally doesn't bring any accountability because it's considered for the right cause.

00:17:05.400 Mm hmm. And this is, according to Outkick, which has been doing great reporting on this, not the first time that Angel Jussie Smollett Reese has made up a fake race claim, racism claim.

00:17:18.440 Last June, according to Outkick, she accused a fan of harassing her and her black teammates and, quote, blocking them from entering their team hotel.

00:17:26.480 A subsequent video of the scene in the comments from her own general manager told a very different story.

00:17:30.460 They report that in June of 2024, her team, the Chicago Sky, was in Washington, D.C. for a game.

00:17:37.440 And Angel Reese posted to X, quote, finding out our team's hotel to pull a camera as we get off the bus and put it in my teammates face and harass her is nasty work. 1.00

00:17:50.940 This really is out of control and needs to stop. 0.98

00:17:53.460 Sky forward Mikayla Anyaweri accused someone of calling somebody else on the team and other women ghetto bitches. 0.95

00:18:04.520 Isabel Harrison said this man stormed them to the point they couldn't even step off the bus. 0.82

00:18:09.120 However, reports Outkick, months later, there's still zero proof of the alleged incident.

00:18:14.360 And all evidence continues to suggest it did not happen in the way Reese and her teammates tell it.

00:18:18.960 There is video from the scene. The man in question does not harass, storm at, threaten or get in the face of the players, as the women stated.

00:18:27.980 Rather, he simply recorded himself asking Carter, one of the players, if she had a chance to reach out to Caitlin Clark.

00:18:37.080 Via the New York Post, the players on the Sky team claim the video was edited and fails to capture the man's alleged harassment.

00:18:43.600 But in an interview with the Chicago Sun-Times a week after, the GM of the team, Jeff Paglioccia, described the incident exactly as shown in this clip.

00:18:53.480 Quote, it was over as fast as it started. I'm very confident in our security, always making our players feel safe.

00:19:00.200 He said, quote, the man had a camera, was trying to approach guard Chennedy Carter.

00:19:05.060 However, security was able to de-escalate the situation without the assistance of police.

00:19:08.960 Here is the clip that we have of the incident.

00:19:14.160 Ms. Carter, have you gotten a chance to reach out to Caitlin?

00:19:16.960 All right, ma'am. Come on with that. 1.00

00:19:19.080 Relax. Have you gotten a chance to reach out to Caitlin?

00:19:26.180 Kennedy, have you gotten a chance?

00:19:28.880 The basketball world wants to know if you've gotten a chance to reach out to her.

00:19:31.660 This is the alleged terrible, terrible man who pulled the camera as we get off the bus, put in my teammate's face and harassed, in all caps, her.

00:19:42.420 It's nasty work. It needs to stop.

00:19:45.400 And that he was allegedly calling the women ghetto bitches, which is strange because I did not hear ghetto bitches on the tape. 0.99

00:19:53.160 Outkick has been asking this team, the Chicago Sky team, what happened? 0.99

00:19:59.140 What's the truth? Because what you allege does not match up with the video nor the GM's description of what actually happened and asking whether they stand by Angel Reese's allegations.

00:20:09.300 The team refuses to respond.

00:20:11.600 They've also tried to contact several members of the team for comment.

00:20:14.920 They've all refused to respond.

00:20:17.080 I mean, again, like I this is something that happened very commonly and in the wake of the Black Lives Matter and the George Floyd incident, where we invented all of these very, you know, sensitive frameworks for when racism happens, for when you're supposed to object and launch a sort of scandal.

00:20:36.880 And I think people got to the point where they realized, you know, if you're going to raise serious racism accusations, you need to have a serious basis for it.

00:20:43.960 It seems like the whole country moved on from this sort of thing.

00:20:46.340 I don't know why the NW, the NAA, the Women's Basketball Association, is continuously engulfed in these sort of things.

00:20:53.640 Yeah, the WNBA.

00:20:55.880 Given that this is the sort of thing that is going to alienate people, you know, that whole incident with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese with that foul that Caitlin Clark made on Angel Reese, which I have watched men's basketball for decades.

00:21:08.320 Every single time a shooter is open, someone comes and tries to foul them by slapping the ball out of their hands, which is exactly what she did.

00:21:13.880 But because of those two players, it became some sort of like racial dynamic.

00:21:18.060 I don't know what it is about this league.

00:21:20.040 I do think they've like defined themselves in this very politically oriented way, almost more so than the basketball.

00:21:26.360 And I think it's ultimately going to just drive people away because people go to watch basketball, not to be engulfed in all of these fake scandals all the time.

00:21:34.220 Exactly right. It's like, well, we barely want to watch the WNBA to begin with. 0.87

00:21:39.020 People started to watch it because Caitlin Clark came in and was a total phenom and like the the female Michael Jordan is how people were describing her. 0.99

00:21:47.780 And so she got bottoms in the seats and she got tickets sold and she got people watching on television.

00:21:52.460 And then the response from the league was uniform hate.

00:21:55.820 I shouldn't say uniform seems majority hate toward her, especially this Angel Reese, who obviously can't stand her and is insanely jealous of her and the attention she's getting rather than basking in it. 0.58

00:22:06.800 Rather than enjoying the bigger spotlight that is on her as well.

00:22:10.360 And you can get away with this because the WNBA seems to be just fine with anti-white racism and with Caitlin Clark going out there to flagellate herself with the I'm working on my white privilege as she gets nominated as the, you know, time athlete of the year. 1.00

00:22:27.480 Like that's what she's got to make sure she says.

00:22:29.040 So she's happy to play the game and, you know, isn't really making a stand one way or the other other than to make sure everybody knows she realizes that she's got inherent bias to and white privilege.

00:22:40.360 And I do think the sports media is very much to blame.

00:22:43.740 You know, I guess people went into sports journalism excited about following the sports, the business of, of, you know, major professional leagues.

00:22:51.880 These are interesting things.

00:22:52.980 And at some point they decided, no, this is not enough.

00:22:55.280 We have to get on a soapbox and be leaders of anti-racism efforts or anti-woman efforts. 0.98

00:23:02.000 And they turned themselves into these social justice warriors.

00:23:04.660 So people were tuning into ESPN to find out about the latest highlights of various games.

00:23:09.620 And instead they were being subjected to these lectures by these very cliched banal people whose, you know, understanding of politics is like very thin, deep.

00:23:18.160 And it was these constant lectures about social justice.

00:23:20.720 And I guess the NBA sector still hasn't really stopped.

00:23:23.780 So why is it that the same people who heard this, these alleged racist comments from the crowd, none of which were substantiated, were not able, because they could use their ears for that, were not able to see with their eyes what Brittany Griner was mouthing.

00:23:40.120 Like, why, why was it so clear in the one instance and so unclear in the other, such that it didn't even warrant reporting along the lines of what I just did, which is here's the dispute.

00:23:50.800 Some people say she looked like she was saying X.

00:23:53.500 Other people say she looked like she was saying Y.

00:23:55.760 They didn't even get that treatment by these same outraged anchors. 0.98

00:23:59.580 They know that they're quick to run to the flames when it could be anti-black racism, but when it could be anti-white racism, crickets.

00:24:08.080 Yeah, I mean, I looked at Brittany Griner, to be honest, it seemed to me, and I'm no lip reading expert, but it seemed pretty clear that she was saying something like with a racial intent about Caitlin Clark.

00:24:21.740 I don't even really care that much.

00:24:23.660 Like, it's the heat of a basketball game.

00:24:25.100 It's an ugly thing to say.

00:24:26.160 Like, why are you saying that?

00:24:27.120 But why do we need national investigations every time somebody might have said something like a little bit inappropriate or a little bit off in the heat of the moment?

00:24:36.340 And that's the thing I thought we had left behind.

00:24:38.820 You know, people in 80,000-person arenas are going to say certain things that players hear or don't hear very well.

00:24:44.860 Just, you know, why do we need these constant scandals in order for people then to, you know, get on that high horse and say racism is unacceptable, and half the time it turns out it was all invented in the first place?

00:24:56.340 Mm-hmm.

00:24:56.940 I know.

00:24:57.440 Like, talk about the game.

00:24:58.940 All these people truly of, like, such privilege, too.

00:25:02.200 Like, they're still so aggrieved about everything.

00:25:05.180 And Angel Reese, while she's making up fake claims of racism, is also celebrating her new deal with Reebok, which undoubtedly is seven figures.

00:25:14.460 And she's being celebrated as, you know, one of these female heroines within the sports world.

00:25:20.260 She's got it made.

00:25:21.540 Why is she so angry? 0.70

00:25:22.660 Yeah, I mean, you know, there are other sports leagues.

00:25:26.740 I remember when Michael Jordan, you know, transformed the NBA into this global phenomenon.

00:25:31.560 All the players said, oh, I owe the ability of myself to put my kids through college to Michael Jordan because he grew the league.

00:25:37.680 Same with Tiger Woods in golf.

00:25:38.920 I heard a lot of players always saying that.

00:25:40.560 You would think you would be appreciative when somebody comes who's kind of like a superstar who brings huge amounts of attention for the first one.

00:25:46.840 Like I said, women's basketball has been trying to get people to watch for decades, and nobody did.

00:25:51.700 And they finally got someone, as you say, because of a generational talent.

00:25:55.160 And there are other good players there that you're now paying attention to and that you see.

00:25:58.460 But the anger and resentment over the fact that she brought not just herself, like why would you think Angel Reis without Caitlin Clark would have even, you know, a hundred dollar sponsorship deal?

00:26:09.540 No, of course not.

00:26:10.600 But the resentment for some reason is overwhelming what ought to be, you know, the collective celebration that they have something that is actually worthwhile for the first time.

00:26:18.980 But they're also bitter and angry and looking for these internal disputes instead of feeding the excitement around the game.

00:26:25.260 It is bizarre.

00:26:26.800 Totally.

00:26:27.420 Or you could even feed a healthy rivalry, you know, like she's going down the next time.

00:26:31.640 I'll get her, you know, like people would love that.

00:26:33.800 But why does it have to be racial?

00:26:35.880 It's just, you know, because some people see the whole world through that prism and they just cannot stop doing it.

00:26:41.320 It's very hard to stop doing it.

00:26:43.780 And that, of course, leads me to Michelle Obama.

00:26:45.920 You're back.

00:26:46.700 And she's given us a whole new realm of comments.

00:26:50.020 Glenn, we saved them just for you because she's still.

00:26:53.040 Well, I told your staff I only started watching this podcast religiously because of the times I've been on your show and you've talked about it by yourself or with me.

00:26:59.820 So I'm very ready to talk to Michelle Obama.

00:27:02.460 Oh, good.

00:27:03.260 She's still just as bitter as ever.

00:27:06.680 Um, there's such a great new, like spin of, uh, of, of complaints here.

00:27:13.020 Here's one from her most recent episode, which still on YouTube, she's got like 200,000 subscribers.

00:27:18.100 It's really amazing that now she's been doing this for how many episodes she's been literally at on every podcast of the less left wing promoting it.

00:27:25.120 And that's still all she's managed to get here.

00:27:28.760 She is interviewing Dr. Sharon Malone, perhaps better known as former attorney general, Eric Holder's wife.

00:27:36.860 And therein lies the problem as these two ladies married to do to two very famous men are pissed that they are not the alpha in terms of popularity and recognition in their marriages. 1.00

00:27:52.960 Listen to this.

00:27:54.140 Stop 15.

00:27:55.760 Sharon's husband happens to be former attorney general, uh, Eric Holder.

00:28:01.300 Uh, he's a non-factor, uh, you know, I, I, he is not a non-factor in our, in our relationship.

00:28:10.280 Okay.

00:28:10.300 Let's contextualize that.

00:28:12.880 Although they, they, they put us together because we were both reluctant spouses attending one of these huge dinners.

00:28:21.500 Um, and what, where were they?

00:28:23.680 Was Barack a U.S. senator at the time?

00:28:25.480 Yes, he was a senator because you, um, you were still living in Chicago and Eric was in private.

00:28:31.300 So it was just, it was the very early days and, you know, she came to D.C. and you didn't come to D.C. much in those days.

00:28:38.500 No, ma'am.

00:28:39.520 And they sit us at a table and we were seated just about like this.

00:28:43.800 She was across the table from me.

00:28:45.800 Okay.

00:28:46.180 And you know how there are things going on around us and I would just look over at her and it was in.

00:28:51.460 Well, and the things were, there was a line of people waiting to shake hands with our respective husbands.

00:28:57.680 You know, people like reaching over our heads and spilling water on us, trying to get to these two, you know, uh, illustrious men.

00:29:05.680 And that's annoying because she's supposed to be the star, Glenn, Michelle Obama. 0.62

00:29:13.360 This dovetails perfectly with so many other comments she's made about how she is like, what about me?

00:29:19.920 What about me?

00:29:21.320 What did those eight years in the White House do to my soul?

00:29:24.900 And why isn't anyone asking?

00:29:26.800 I should, they shouldn't have to be told to ask about how I'm doing.

00:29:30.140 Go ahead.

00:29:30.620 Every single time you showed a clip on this show, including when I wasn't here, but I was watching, but also every time I've been here, every single time, I'm not exaggerating.

00:29:40.120 Michelle Obama is making clear that everything that she had to do to support her husband's career was something that was completely against her will, that it was some sort of like psychological damage imposed on her for having to do it.

00:29:51.700 Like she has resentment and bitterness, you know, like I went to this dinner, but against my will, because I had to, that's the first thing.

00:29:58.000 I mean, how much anger and resentment does she have toward her husband for having had his own political career that, as we've talked about before, made Michelle Obama one of the richest, most influential, most famous and most powerful people on the planet.

00:30:12.560 And yet she talks as if that trajectory that he took her on was something that, you know, turned her into some kind of horrible victim that we ought to feel sorry for.

00:30:22.800 On top of that, you know, these podcasts where you like what she's doing, which is basically just like going around and chit-chatting about her life and the like things she thinks is interesting in her life and the thoughts she has in the middle of the night.

00:30:34.880 Right. It's such an act of like extreme narcissism to go around talking constantly about the things that are being done to you that you think are unfair when in the entire 8 billion people on the planet, you are basically in the top 0, 0, 0, 0, 1% of the people who are the most privileged by every reasonable metric.

00:30:54.680 I'm not saying people don't go through bad times if they're like very rich or very famous.

00:30:58.600 Of course they do. But don't you have like any humility at all, like any sensibility at all that most people don't want to hear from you about how difficult your life is, given that you live in this lavish wealth and fame and, and, and, you know, got to be in the White House for all those years.

00:31:14.320 But she's angry about it and thinks that it's worthy of all of our attention to hear her resentment.

00:31:20.200 I can't understand the mindset that produces that belief.

00:31:23.000 I know. How, how do you not stop, especially when your husband was commander in chief for eight years and think there will be people who hear this clip who have no arms and legs.

00:31:32.780 Thanks to these wars that we fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. I mean, there, I know some of them and they will drag themselves out to run the tunnel to towers race and other races to raise money for other suffering veterans and firefighters who got hurt on nine 11 and so on.

00:31:46.080 And their families are surviving that who have actual problems, actual problems that were basically brought on them by the government.

00:31:54.420 Um, and they, no one, no one, not even people who aren't anywhere near as catastrophically injured as those guys, but no, especially guys like that.

00:32:02.400 Don't want to hear about how someone had to reach past her to shake Barack Obama's hand.

00:32:09.580 She has zero perspective for what actual problems are Glenn.

00:32:13.520 Or just people suffering from like terminal illness or people who can't get food and healthcare for, you know, on and on and on, like all of the injustices and the horrors and wars in the world.

00:32:26.120 And this is what I'm saying. Like, I'm not saying I haven't encountered difficulties in my life, but in general, I feel like my life is very blessed. I feel like I have done a lot of things. I've gotten a lot of things that other people haven't gotten in. So I would never go around and talk publicly about, Hey, gather around. I want you to, you never do why I feel so agree.

00:32:45.740 You never do either. Like, I'm not saying there aren't times that you're angry or, but you don't go publicly and talk about it because in comparison to pretty much everybody else in the world, it's so trivial and to demand that people pay attention.

00:32:58.580 But she, like, this is the other thing, this whole idea that she has a marriage, like, you know, I know you, you are married to someone who has a different career than you. I was married to my husband who was a politician. I obviously supported his political career because, you know, we were married and I loved him and that's what you do in marriage.

00:33:13.700 And of course I had to go to events sometimes that I didn't really want to go to that weren't particularly interesting, like political rallies or whatever.

00:33:19.560 I would never imagine going around and publicly saying, because of him, I had to go to all these different, horrible, miserable events.

00:33:27.280 And he was the star because he was the candidate and people climbed or vice versa.

00:33:31.400 You know, all the things he had to do, like who, the conception she has of marriage is so jaded and so ugly and negative.

00:33:39.820 And I don't know where that comes from.

00:33:41.120 Point scoring, you know, it's all point scoring.

00:33:43.820 It's like when I go to, like, one of Doug's book signings and people want to talk to Doug because he's the star at those book signings, I love it.

00:33:50.820 I love it for him.

00:33:51.720 I'm thrilled to have them reach past me to shake Doug's hand because I love him and I'm rooting for him.

00:33:56.640 Everything is like a point against him and, you know, a deficit that she's suffered for which he has to make up later.

00:34:03.560 All right, so more aggrievement in the following soundbite.

00:34:08.120 And this is another theme with her.

00:34:09.820 Just, I mean, how hard it is to be Michelle, how hard it is to be a woman.

00:34:15.100 Here she is in SOT, 16.

00:34:17.960 Who, you know, drink excessive amounts of alcohol.

00:34:20.780 That might be a factor.

00:34:21.980 But the thing that's different about women than it is about men, with men, you make a new set of sperm every 69 days. 1.00

00:34:30.040 You get a new batch, right?

00:34:31.420 Right, right.

00:34:31.980 We are born with all we're ever going to have.

00:34:35.260 And that's it.

00:34:37.100 You, we have.

00:34:37.940 We always get in the short end of something.

00:34:39.720 I'm telling you, isn't it?

00:34:40.900 Oh, my God.

00:34:41.860 We get all we have.

00:34:42.560 Sperm after sperm after sperm.

00:34:44.080 Well, we can jack ours up with behavior, too, right?

00:34:47.720 Like smoking.

00:34:48.400 You used that word jack up.

00:34:49.980 It's like, be careful there.

00:34:51.580 I was like, where are you going with that, dude?

00:34:53.660 I just, yes, I was trying not to curse.

00:34:57.220 I should have cursed.

00:34:58.340 It would have been better.

00:34:59.000 We might have to bleep that out.

00:35:01.200 No, but seriously, it's.

00:35:04.180 Brother Craig, you need to get out of there.

00:35:06.160 You need to go launch your own show.

00:35:08.380 Glenn.

00:35:08.740 Poor brother Craig.

00:35:09.760 Poor brother Craig.

00:35:10.800 We need a parachute in there to rescue brother Craig.

00:35:15.400 I mean, he has to walk in pins and needles because the minute he does anything other than just like sort of say amen in response to everything she says, she gets super hostile.

00:35:23.780 Yes, yes, she does.

00:35:25.080 She's always correcting him.

00:35:26.100 Oh, yeah.

00:35:27.420 If he steps out of line, she's like, no.

00:35:29.760 And then she talks over him and she explains why he's so wrong.

00:35:32.400 And then he eventually apologizes.

00:35:34.040 It's a really like uncomfortable dynamic.

00:35:36.380 But also, like, what is that?

00:35:38.120 Like women always get the short end of the stick because of their biology. 1.00

00:35:42.100 And I mean, I what is that?

00:35:45.480 Women live like what, like six or seven years longer longer than men, longer than men, pretty good and have for a long time. 1.00

00:35:52.040 Yeah.

00:35:52.160 I think that's a pretty good, you know, like mark of positivity on the side of women. 1.00

00:35:56.480 And women get to do a lot of things that men don't do. 1.00

00:35:59.100 Women get to carry a baby. 1.00

00:36:00.400 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:01.720 To be a mother to a baby and breastfeed. 0.99

00:36:04.260 Like, but no, I bet she would frame that as some sort of a negative.

00:36:07.580 Here she is.

00:36:08.200 I'll give you another one.

00:36:09.560 Well, I'll just let you watch it.

00:36:11.100 It's not 17.

00:36:13.160 There is at least some, you know, again, anecdotal data that says that older sperm, more autism. 0.98

00:36:20.200 We should tell some people, like, maybe it's the old sperm.

00:36:23.200 Maybe it's not the vaccine that's causing the autism.

00:36:26.080 You know, why don't you look at that?

00:36:26.960 They'll never let that secret out.

00:36:28.900 Good luck with that one.

00:36:31.160 That may be the key behind all the defunding everything.

00:36:35.600 It's just like, let's just blow it up.

00:36:37.980 And then the old man can keep marrying 20 year olds.

00:36:42.900 Exactly.

00:36:43.600 It's like, I'll give you the baby you want.

00:36:46.840 What?

00:36:48.000 Like, what is this?

00:36:49.080 This is just some grievance fest, again, with two of the most privileged women on earth 0.98

00:36:54.320 who are really bitter against men, because now we're trying to say it's old male sperm 0.96

00:37:00.220 that causes autism. 0.89

00:37:02.740 Like, I don't even understand it, but it's typical leftist women talk. 0.99

00:37:07.980 Yeah.

00:37:08.180 It's like, it's the men's fault. 1.00

00:37:09.720 Like the reason why people are interested in what causes autism is because there's been

00:37:13.780 a gigantic explosion in the rates of autism over the past, you know, 20 to 30 years or

00:37:18.140 40 years.

00:37:18.700 So people are interested.

00:37:19.300 Like, why has that happened?

00:37:21.120 Was there not old people's sperm like prior to 40 years ago?

00:37:25.160 Like if old men's sperm causes autism, why wasn't that happening 40 years ago?

00:37:30.760 It makes no sense.

00:37:32.260 But everything she says has like no side point.

00:37:35.760 There's never any like interest in any issue.

00:37:38.380 It's all a proxy for her to depict herself as somehow put upon.

00:37:44.340 And aside from the fact that I don't understand how anybody would ever want to listen to that,

00:37:46.900 I also don't understand, honestly, I really don't how somebody has the life she has and

00:37:52.660 really is convinced that the whole world is unfair to her, that she's uniquely suffering

00:37:57.400 and that everybody wants to sit around and, and, and hear it.

00:38:01.040 There's something very dark in her psyche that is causing her to use this podcast to like

00:38:06.620 disparage her marriage and to talk about how unfair the world has been to her.

00:38:11.600 I don't know.

00:38:12.440 I just, you know, she could, she's disparaged her kids.

00:38:17.660 Yeah.

00:38:17.840 She's gone on.

00:38:18.540 She hasn't said like, I hate Malia and Sasha, but she's like, they're extremely hard and like

00:38:23.320 they come and you know, your life basically gets ruined.

00:38:26.780 I mean, she's, she doesn't talk about them, you know, and she's like, they're launched,

00:38:29.820 you know, she doesn't talk about them in the way of like, they're my everything, you know,

00:38:34.400 like the, you change as a woman and as a mother and you, you know, you profoundly connect with

00:38:39.420 your child upon birth. 0.99

00:38:40.440 And she talks about it like it was all yet another fucking thing she had to do for Barack. 0.99

00:38:45.600 And even here, this isn't about her children per se, but most women, when they talk about 0.98

00:38:52.380 the, the glorious ability to be a woman, the, the, the, the glorious fact of being a woman

00:38:59.100 will mention as you and I both just did as one of the first things that makes women truly special,

00:39:04.500 the ability to carry and give birth to a child.

00:39:07.600 It's a gift from God.

00:39:09.040 It's such an extraordinary superpower.

00:39:12.320 Here she is on that.

00:39:15.680 A lot of male politicians, a lot of male religious leaders think about the issue of choice as if

00:39:23.800 it's just about the fetus, the baby, the, um, but women's reproductive health is about our life. 1.00

00:39:33.120 Um, it's, it's, it's about this whole complicated reproductive system that does the, the least of 1.00

00:39:40.560 what it does is produce life.

00:39:42.440 It's a very important thing that it does, but you, you only produce life if the machine that's

00:39:49.180 producing it, if you want to, you know, whittle us down to a machine, if the machine,

00:39:53.800 is functioning the least of what the reproductive system does. 1.00

00:39:59.900 The least important of what the reproductive is, give life is create life. 0.93

00:40:05.240 I mean, where would anybody, that is the, I maybe want to say is there are other things

00:40:10.160 as important, but to rank the production of life and the unbelievably miraculous process

00:40:15.980 where a woman, you know, carries a baby to term and then life is created like this process 0.99

00:40:21.820 that everyone finds beautiful to say that that's the least important who talks like

00:40:26.760 that, especially somebody who's gone through childbirth.

00:40:29.340 And that's the other thing, you know, I was talking about my kids yesterday with a man

00:40:33.420 who has kids.

00:40:34.040 It's like the first thing we immediately said is like, you know, they're teenagers.

00:40:37.040 Of course you have problems, but like, you know, you're like, ah, the best thing I've

00:40:40.180 ever done is become a parent.

00:40:41.420 Like, I love my kids so much.

00:40:43.320 It's changed my life.

00:40:44.060 Who talks about the process of having kids in this way?

00:40:48.540 That's like very annoying, very put upon.

00:40:51.540 And like, even if that's what you think, why would you say that publicly about your own

00:40:55.980 kids in public as well?

00:40:57.920 It's all bizarre.

00:40:59.700 She has no self-awareness.

00:41:02.040 All right.

00:41:02.520 I'm going to do one more aggrieved woman with you. 1.00

00:41:05.880 And, um, it happens to be Beyonce because it recently came to my attention that Beyonce

00:41:13.460 who's on some world tour right now, reinventing herself as a country star is running videotape

00:41:19.680 during the show of yours truly.

00:41:23.580 I believe it is a clip from me on the Paul Murray show, um, out of sky news, Australia,

00:41:30.780 which I do once a week because I adore him.

00:41:33.220 Um, but it's me commenting about how, when she started getting into country and the launch

00:41:40.580 of this album, she and her marketing people were treating that entry like the second coming,

00:41:47.160 like it's Jesus incarnate.

00:41:49.320 He's back all hail queen Bay.

00:41:52.500 She's here to rescue country music, which was a perfectly thriving industry long before

00:41:59.640 Beyonce showed up. 0.96

00:42:01.040 But now we all need to hail her because she's married to Jay Z, which means we will have

00:42:05.860 hundreds of millions thrown at any marketing effort behind her. 0.79

00:42:08.860 And she, so, so that was my take, but the vast majority of consumers and her fans celebrated

00:42:18.580 her to high heaven.

00:42:20.680 It was like, again, queen Bay in the Bay hive and the marketing she got in the recognition

00:42:25.720 and the awards and the singing opportunities at the award shows, all of it was piled upon

00:42:30.440 her as everything is that she is considered untouchable. 1.00

00:42:34.160 You're not allowed to rip on her, by the way, not allowed to rip on Michelle Obama either, 0.99

00:42:37.340 but we do too bad. 0.95

00:42:39.220 The more untouchable you tell me somebody is, the more likely I am to want to hit them.

00:42:42.140 And, um, so here is a bit that she came to our attention.

00:42:46.540 She's showing it every show.

00:42:50.800 Decided to stick her big toe in the lane. 1.00

00:42:53.240 OK, I don't know what it is, but it appears to be a setup for her doubters, Glenn, you know,

00:43:06.780 like her, her haters, somebody who reposted online referred to me as a white supremacist,

00:43:12.800 I guess, because I, I didn't bow down to queen Bay as she walked into country music. 1.00

00:43:18.140 And let me tell you something, she had to scour the internet to find anybody who offered any

00:43:23.080 criticism of this move whatsoever.

00:43:25.340 And here is another, one of the most privileged, beloved women in the world and richest based

00:43:34.700 on her own fortune, nevermind the man she's married to, but still has to look for the one

00:43:39.920 sliver where she can play the victim and be aggrieved because big bad Megan Kelly said something 1.00

00:43:46.860 completely milquetoast about her entry into country music.

00:43:52.420 Well, I was about to say, like, I've heard a lot of Megan Kelly slams and critiques and

00:43:56.700 insults and like very harsh attacks over the years.

00:43:59.940 And that pretty much ranks like at the very bottom of the list when it comes to like rhetorical

00:44:05.500 aggression was just like a very offhand comment that like, why is it such a big deal that Beyonce

00:44:09.560 did a country music album?

00:44:11.900 Like, OK, fine.

00:44:12.860 She did country music.

00:44:13.720 And, you know, I don't really understand why people are celebrating it so much.

00:44:17.480 It seems like celebrity worship.

00:44:18.640 But you're so right.

00:44:19.240 She's showing it as if there's some kind of like deeply fascist, racist, racist element,

00:44:25.020 like this strain that has been attacking her viciously for daring to do country music.

00:44:30.940 She's holding you up as a hate object. 1.00

00:44:33.400 And that's exactly like she's going all over the world.

00:44:35.520 People are screaming for her as they always do.

00:44:38.280 Again, she's like, you know, like Michelle Obama, like so many other people.

00:44:40.880 She has every conceivable material benefit and fame and adoration.

00:44:45.560 And she has to like depict herself as persecuted by finding like one of the most mild Megyn Kelly

00:44:52.620 statements I've ever heard in my life and go and hold you up as like a hate object all around the

00:44:56.800 world.

00:44:57.020 Like, look at these vicious, racist attacks on me coming from this strain of people.

00:45:02.080 Like, why do you need to be persecuted?

00:45:04.040 Why is that such a desire to be victimized and to say, look at all my doubters and haters

00:45:09.060 and attackers?

00:45:10.440 It's it's again, I mean, like, why do people go looking for that?

00:45:15.100 Why do people need that and want that?

00:45:16.820 Like, I'm persecuted.

00:45:18.760 Meanwhile, where where's her show video of her with P Diddy?

00:45:23.600 Where's that picture, Queen Bey, your BFF Diddy, who is now on trial for being what is alleged 1.00

00:45:31.320 to be a serial rapist and abuser of women?

00:45:34.440 I don't I haven't heard you comment on that. 0.98

00:45:35.880 You have so many things you want to say about items in the news.

00:45:38.680 Let's hear it.

00:45:39.560 Go ahead, Queen.

00:45:41.040 Let's hear you explain your relationship and your husband's relationship with Sean Diddy

00:45:45.960 Combs.

00:45:46.540 I'll wait.

00:45:47.540 I can't wait to watch that at your next show.

00:45:49.860 OK, but nobody in the entertainment industry is going to get in your face with a microphone

00:45:53.460 on that because you're untouchable, except you're not.

00:45:56.780 And it drives you crazy.

00:45:58.140 It's you know, it's not that different from George Clooney, right?

00:46:01.680 George Clooney got so upset.

00:46:03.160 We talked about this, I think, where he featured me, I guess, in his play on Broadway.

00:46:09.640 Good night and good luck, which I didn't even know.

00:46:11.540 I was just ripping on him in good night and good luck as pretending to be Robert to be

00:46:17.160 Edward F. Murrow and Edward R. Murrow.

00:46:20.980 And he's lecturing everybody on how to do journalism and democracy dies in darkness and

00:46:25.580 all of that.

00:46:25.920 And it just comes along during the Trump era.

00:46:27.880 And I was mocking him.

00:46:29.140 So then he sat down with this nutcase, Patti LuPone, who I'll get to because there's news

00:46:33.040 on her today.

00:46:34.040 And they decided to mock me saying she's not a journalist and that he is a real journalist,

00:46:39.420 that he, George Clooney, is a real journalist because he's been to Sudan or Darfur.

00:46:42.720 And he did that because he saw that I ripped on him. 0.99

00:46:47.620 He can't take it like he's George fucking Clooney. 0.99

00:46:51.120 She's Beyonce. 1.00

00:46:52.480 But they can't take the mildest criticism, Glenn, because in their world, they never receive

00:46:59.600 any.

00:47:02.260 Well, and also like he's not just being an actor, he wants to depict himself as some sort of

00:47:07.560 political activist, as you said, like, oh, I went here and I did human rights investigations

00:47:11.540 here.

00:47:12.340 I just read a review of this play by my friend, Michael Tracy, who is an excellent writer.

00:47:16.040 I really encourage people to go read it.

00:47:18.660 Yeah.

00:47:18.920 Did you read the review?

00:47:20.340 Yes, it was so good.

00:47:21.680 It's basically like, yeah, the whole point of it is to say, I'm Edward R. Murrow.

00:47:26.120 I'm the Oracle of truth.

00:47:28.040 Journalism used to be about truth.

00:47:29.640 And then everything from that point forward is like the most obvious, you know, signal to

00:47:35.280 the liberals in Manhattan who, you know, over 50, the MSNBC viewers who go watch this

00:47:39.140 play to interpret everything as a attack on Trump.

00:47:43.400 And they're constantly applauding these very not subtle.

00:47:46.140 He's just such a banal liberal.

00:47:49.600 But I think he finds himself to be so I had this experience when I was doing, you know,

00:47:54.280 the Hollywood circuit with Citizen Four.

00:47:55.840 And we were doing all the awards and stuff.

00:47:57.600 And also the Oliver Stone film.

00:47:59.020 I know you have to.

00:47:59.580 And they all want to be more important than just actors.

00:48:02.640 And they're constantly seeking to look for ways to, like, get up on a soapbox.

00:48:06.280 But most of them have so little to say.

00:48:09.280 And if you listen to George Clooney talk about politics, he's basically like Nancy Pelosi and

00:48:14.140 Chuck Schumer in this unholy marriage that produced a baby.

00:48:18.120 Like, nothing is interesting about it.

00:48:20.080 But he finds himself so important because he produced a play where he's Edward R. Murrow,

00:48:25.320 the Oracle of Truth.

00:48:26.260 Exactly right.

00:48:27.940 So I'm going someplace with this.

00:48:30.040 But here's a little of that Clooney and LuPone talk.

00:48:32.820 And then I'm going to show you what LuPone's saying now.

00:48:35.220 What we do in this is we talk about the responsibility of journalists to hold truth to power.

00:48:41.340 Right.

00:48:41.600 That's our goal.

00:48:42.840 And so if you're doing that and we don't tell people what to think when we show that

00:48:48.000 montage at the end, for instance, you see Megyn Kelly.

00:48:50.680 She's who's come out and said, you know, I'm not a journalist.

00:48:53.560 I didn't say I was a journalist.

00:48:55.480 Neither sheep.

00:48:56.120 By the way, you know, but I'm not quite sure what she's done.

00:48:58.920 I've at least been to, you know, Darfur and Sudan and the Congo and been shot at and to

00:49:04.820 try to get stories out.

00:49:06.120 And I'm not quite sure what she's done to be a journalist.

00:49:08.540 Having said that, we only show her words in this play.

00:49:12.660 We don't tell people what to think.

00:49:14.840 It's not out of context.

00:49:16.500 We don't manipulate it.

00:49:18.300 We literally just go.

00:49:19.560 These are your words.

00:49:20.340 The thinnest skin man in Hollywood, just because I said he's not a journalist. 0.73

00:49:29.080 Who thinks George Clooney is a journalist?

00:49:33.660 And his argument was, I've traveled internationally and therefore I'm a journalist.

00:49:38.640 I don't really think that's right.

00:49:40.080 I think like being a journalist is like going to Russia and interviewing Vladimir Putin, as

00:49:43.200 you did.

00:49:44.380 Moderating debates, breaking stories, interviewing newsmakers.

00:49:47.820 There's that's the work of being a journalist.

00:49:50.240 The need that George Clooney has a need on top of all of the other accolades and credentials

00:49:54.900 that he's compiled for himself to also now be a journalism and make it not just a journalist,

00:50:00.060 but the kind of journalist that the kind of journalist that is so accomplished, like the

00:50:04.360 dean of investigative journalism, that he produces a play where he lectures everybody about what

00:50:09.960 journalism is at its finest essence and how it's been corrupted over the years.

00:50:15.000 I mean, it's a theme, the pomposity of it is unbelievable.

00:50:19.820 Yes.

00:50:20.220 Pomposity.

00:50:20.900 It's that's there's a theme, though, like all three of these people are very left wing.

00:50:26.100 You know, Michelle, Beyonce, Clooney. 0.65

00:50:28.760 And by the way, Patti LuPone is the craziest of all of them. 1.00

00:50:31.340 I'll do her after the break.

00:50:32.560 But they can't appreciate their wonderful blessings they've been given, the wonderful

00:50:37.420 mansion he has on Lake Como and in France and I'm sure in Hollywood and elsewhere, or in

00:50:43.320 her case, Martha's Vineyard and Hawaii and Chicago and D.C.

00:50:46.260 No, it's about one or Beyonce.

00:50:49.460 My God, she puts them all to shame in terms of her wealth and resources. 0.99

00:50:52.420 They can't lean into how wonderful life is for them.

00:50:55.440 They have to find like one comment by me to make themselves into a victim.

00:51:00.200 He's indignant.

00:51:01.020 He was called a not journalist.

00:51:02.500 She's upset that I said what she dipping her toe into this for or what, you know, everybody's

00:51:06.500 hailing her now and Patti LuPone speaks to four, all far leftists.

00:51:12.760 I'll play that for you right after this break.

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00:52:30.180 Okay, so we talked about Clooney and thin-skinned Beyonce and Michelle Obama, but I do have

00:52:39.440 to tell you what happened with this Patti LuPone nutcase.

00:52:42.420 So just for the listening audience, it never gets old.

00:52:45.260 We look for any opportunity to run it because it's just so entertaining.

00:52:48.620 I actually went to see this show that she was in on Broadway with my two priest friends,

00:52:55.800 which was super fun.

00:52:57.420 And late at another showing of this play, she had a back and forth with the audience,

00:53:04.360 a Q&A after the fact.

00:53:05.620 And it was during, you know, it was well past COVID, but Broadway made you wear masks like

00:53:10.020 through 2022.

00:53:11.080 It was crazy.

00:53:12.380 And it was one of those waning days of, you know, the last holders on and their masks,

00:53:18.480 but not Patti LuPone.

00:53:19.720 She's probably still wearing one. 0.54

00:53:20.920 And this happened.

00:53:22.760 Put your mask over your nose.

00:53:24.840 That's why you're in the theater.

00:53:26.740 That is the rule. 0.99

00:53:27.860 If you don't want to follow the rule, get the fuck out. 0.99

00:53:30.620 Who do you think you are if you do not respect the people that are sitting around you? 0.99

00:53:40.580 Your salary.

00:53:42.100 You pay my salary. 1.00

00:53:43.620 Bullshit. 1.00

00:53:44.640 Chris Harper pays my salary. 1.00

00:53:46.680 Excuse me.

00:53:47.300 Who do you think you are?

00:53:49.200 Give me a hand. 0.94

00:53:51.300 Just put your mask over your nose.

00:53:55.720 She's a very angry woman. 0.51

00:53:57.720 Very angry.

00:53:58.500 And now, Glenn, she's given an interview to The New Yorker in which they write as follows.

00:54:04.920 They write.

00:54:06.220 She's even angrier at the rest of the country. 0.90

00:54:09.480 She told me more than once, says the author, that the Trumpified Kennedy Center, quote, should

00:54:15.720 get blown up. 0.55

00:54:17.380 She wants it blown up.

00:54:19.060 And she wants also for the administration to leave New York alone. 0.97

00:54:25.640 She wants to make it its own country and to have Donald Trump come nowhere near it. 0.98

00:54:31.540 And really, I guess, repeatedly is calling for the Kennedy Center to get bombed, which is,

00:54:39.080 you know, potentially problematic.

00:54:40.960 I'm not sure this is OK kind of language for one of Broadway's biggest stars.

00:54:46.680 And for, like, a really good leftist and liberal who cares so much about human rights and the

00:54:52.240 sanctity of life and all the things good liberal people care about.

00:54:56.040 You know, I do think one of the funniest trolls Trump did was take over the Kennedy Center only

00:55:02.780 because this is, like, the most sacrosanct place for Hollywood and for, like, the New York 0.94

00:55:09.180 literary and entertainment scene that you know considers Trump to be an utterly despicable 0.74

00:55:13.960 heathen, whose very presence in one of their halls, you know, degrades it for centuries. 0.50

00:55:21.400 And so the fact that he's now in control of the Kennedy Center, obviously he did so with

00:55:25.640 the intention of producing exactly this kind of reaction.

00:55:29.360 But also what you're seeing here is just this idea that, like, Patti LuPone has been,

00:55:34.380 like, on Broadway for however many decades.

00:55:37.060 She lives in Manhattan.

00:55:38.340 She has absolutely zero interaction with 99.9 percent of the people of the country.

00:55:43.960 She makes no understanding, no effort to understand why people, even though she hates Donald Trump,

00:55:49.800 twice voted for him to be president, almost did a third time.

00:55:52.740 And this, you know, sort of like New York is its own superior, you know, corridor.

00:55:58.660 And we don't want anything to do with the rest of the country.

00:56:01.220 Just leave New York alone as though it's not part of the United States.

00:56:04.180 Like, sorry, no, Patti, we're not leaving New York alone.

00:56:07.060 It's all part of the United States that gets governed by the people who are elected by Americans,

00:56:11.800 whether you like it or not. 0.99

00:56:12.880 But these people are really more ridiculous than anything. 0.98

00:56:15.920 By the way, I was thinking, since so many people did, that she was going to be another one of the people 0.99

00:56:19.580 who had something bad to say about you.

00:56:21.600 So I was a little disappointed.

00:56:22.540 But you hear, like, the snideness coming from her about everything else.

00:56:25.960 You heard her in the interview with George Clooney.

00:56:27.540 In the interview with George Clooney.

00:56:28.600 Yeah, that's true.

00:56:29.380 That's true.

00:56:29.900 Yeah.

00:56:30.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:31.140 Exactly.

00:56:32.100 So she's satisfied.

00:56:34.360 Now, on the subject of journalists, George Clooney, not a fan of my journalism.

00:56:39.740 Got it.

00:56:40.680 Badge of honor.

00:56:41.220 George Clooney is a fan of Jake Tapper, who he sat with for an interview when this play first came out.

00:56:48.980 And as you know, Tapper has been all over the media over the past two weeks celebrating his discovery broken in this book

00:56:58.540 that Joe Biden had mental acuity problems and that there was a White House effort to cover it up.

00:57:04.300 Newsflash.

00:57:05.040 OK, I don't know if you're up to speed on this, Glenn, but that was a thing.

00:57:08.040 And thanks to Tapper and Thompson, we now we now know about it.

00:57:11.880 This is the ruse that's being played as they go on the book tour.

00:57:14.740 And literally everybody, honestly, I'm not tooting my own horn, but literally nobody after that interview with me

00:57:20.900 has asked them about their role in covering it up and like their complicity.

00:57:26.600 At least I haven't seen it.

00:57:27.380 Maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't seen it.

00:57:29.580 So now this is the latest messaging as they were on, or at least Tapper was PBS's Washington Week.

00:57:38.040 Um, say again, Steve.

00:57:40.440 Yeah, both, both on in stop four on May 23rd.

00:57:43.920 And I think that we need to be skeptical of everything that we are told by people in power.

00:57:51.700 Uh, and I mean, that obviously should be the mantra of being a journalist to begin with.

00:57:56.680 If your mother tells you she loves you, get a second source.

00:57:59.860 But we just need to remember that like politicians lie, White Houses lie, power is an aphrodisiac.

00:58:07.260 And we just need to all remember that and not take at face value anything that we're told.

00:58:13.800 Got it, Glenn.

00:58:14.860 I mean, it's helpful to have these refreshers on how you're supposed to treat White House statements.

00:58:20.460 You know, I was the one who flagged that, uh, that, that segment, that little clip only because it happened.

00:58:26.880 I just had to see like Jeffrey Goldberg and Jake Tapper talking about what happened here, knowing they were going to defend the media, knowing it was going to be the one of the worst things ever.

00:58:34.900 I guess I was in like a masochistic mood.

00:58:36.740 So I watched it watching a person who's 56 years old, who has been in loosely call, call it journalism for 30 years.

00:58:45.800 Be asked by Jeffrey Goldberg, like, what is the lesson that we're all supposed to take from this?

00:58:49.760 And then he says, as though it's like the most profound insight, we really have to remember that people in power lie.

00:58:57.800 They don't tell us the truth often.

00:58:59.700 And therefore we can't take what they say at face value.

00:59:02.660 If I were to teach a journalism course to like eighth graders, that would be the very first thing I would emphasize on the very first day.

00:59:10.540 Like Jake Tapper just woke up.

00:59:12.380 And of course, the reason they're saying this is because they were friends and are friends with all these Democratic national security, Democratic operatives who were lying to them and saying that Biden was fine.

00:59:23.700 And a lot of them probably did say, oh, these are the good guys like Mike Donilon and Nita Dunn and all these people I've been friends with and who my kids go to school with.

00:59:30.900 And so they do feel like they got to see it because those are the people who they thought were the good ones.

00:59:36.740 But after Iraq, the Iraq war and the covid lies and the hundred by the laptop and Russia, how do you just wake up yesterday and say, you know what?

00:59:45.680 I just had this epiphany. It's a really brilliant epiphany.

00:59:48.640 One of the things that's important in journalism is to realize that people in politics lie.

00:59:53.360 The other funny thing is I, you know, I thought, you know, I knew I don't know why Jake Tapper went on your show.

00:59:59.600 Had I been part of that price PR crisis firm management firm that he hired?

01:00:04.620 I've never heard of a journalist having to hire a PR crisis firm before.

01:00:08.240 Like journalists usually don't have PR crises.

01:00:11.020 Yeah.

01:00:11.280 Like when launching a book was supposed to be like this, you know, book that uncovered something nobody knew.

01:00:16.100 I'll give him credit for that.

01:00:16.980 Like nobody knew Joe Biden was suffering, suffering from cognitive decline until Jake Tapper using shoelace reporting uncovered in this book.

01:00:25.380 But the thing is, you know, it's so interesting.

01:00:27.140 I had been bashing Joe Jake Tapper for a long time, starting from when this book came out.

01:00:31.400 And he got that PR crisis firm to like try and plan a bunch of negative stories and hit pieces on me as a result.

01:00:37.240 And a couple of the crappy like Daily Beast and Huffington Post did it.

01:00:41.400 You know, who cares?

01:00:43.260 But like the New York Post got it as well.

01:00:44.900 They called me and they talked to me about it.

01:00:46.280 Then they realized it was nothing.

01:00:47.780 So at first he was like in a very defiant, defensive posture.

01:00:51.280 By the time he got to your interview, and this is I know because this is the sort of thing that PR crisis firms tell you to do.

01:00:57.560 He kept using this phrase with you, this like mantra that, you know, he didn't believe, which is humility.

01:01:02.580 Look, I look back on my coverage with some humility.

01:01:05.480 Yeah.

01:01:06.020 This is the kind of thing that they tell you to say so that you seem like you're taking accountability for yourself, even though you're absolutely not.

01:01:12.460 Like, what does that mean?

01:01:13.500 I look back on some of my coverage with humility.

01:01:15.900 You were the one who helped lead the cover up that you're now pretending and making millions of dollars off of exposing.

01:01:22.060 It's a huge scandal.

01:01:23.220 And like I look back on some of my coverage with humility, which he said to you like 10 times in this very like faux, sad, reflective way is not an adequate response.

01:01:31.940 No, and it's meaningless and it's not a good it's you can tell it's PR tested and that it was come up with by somebody other than Jake.

01:01:41.200 That's the problem, because that's why it didn't resonate.

01:01:43.660 You know, that's why he couldn't sell it.

01:01:45.180 Somebody who's genuinely contrite would sound very different.

01:01:48.980 They'd say, I'm really embarrassed.

01:01:52.200 I'm deeply embarrassed.

01:01:53.220 And I've looked back on the coverage and realized it was my partisan stripes.

01:01:57.320 I do think Trump is a threat.

01:01:59.740 And I was, if I'm honest, rooting for Joe Biden.

01:02:03.380 And I think that colored my willingness to engage these attacks.

01:02:07.420 That's the truth.

01:02:08.100 And that would have been a valuable book.

01:02:09.440 That would have been a respectable book because you want people to do that, right?

01:02:13.820 Like, I got something really wrong.

01:02:15.980 I got I got my job really wrong.

01:02:18.000 I believe something that was false.

01:02:19.440 I convinced people of things that weren't true.

01:02:21.220 And now I'm writing a book to try and understand why that happened to me and so many people in media.

01:02:26.300 That would be an interesting book if it were truly honest and like self-reflective and self-critical.

01:02:31.280 Of course, they sold this book as Jake Tapper, breaking one of the biggest stories in decades of journalism, more than the Snowden story and Watergate or whatever else.

01:02:40.540 Like he revealed to us something that nobody knew except 85 percent of the American people that Joe Biden, when he was president, was in cognitive decline.

01:02:48.080 Thank you so much, Jake Tapper, for letting us know that, especially since you have to come to terms with what the fact that you are one of the people hiding that.

01:02:56.460 They're all playing along with it.

01:02:58.120 All these left wing journalists are like, oh, my God.

01:03:01.780 You know, like now I see what was done to us by the Biden White House.

01:03:05.260 Like, would you stop?

01:03:06.360 They're the victims.

01:03:07.160 A certain male gesture comes to mind when I watch this.

01:03:10.440 It's like, oh.

01:03:12.200 Yeah, they're rewriting history to be the victims.

01:03:14.960 Go ahead.

01:03:15.240 I'm sorry.

01:03:15.460 Yes.

01:03:15.780 So I should say Stephen A. Smith, he did challenge them on complicity.

01:03:20.540 So right on, Stephen A.

01:03:22.080 And here's the latest messaging on Stephen A.'s podcast of from Tapper on when the light bulb began to go off.

01:03:30.400 Glenn.

01:03:31.740 With the exception of the Laura Trump interview almost five years ago, I didn't do that.

01:03:37.260 Once it became, you know, when you get new information, most sane, rational people absorb it.

01:03:44.560 And if it goes against what they thought before, they change their mind.

01:03:47.860 And I began changing my mind about President Biden and his acuity, I'd say around 2023.

01:03:54.900 2023, okay.

01:03:58.660 Weirdly, it was not brought up at the debate that Jake Tapper hosted.

01:04:02.920 That was post-2023.

01:04:05.280 We looked back, did not see the long segments devoted to the failing mental acuity on Jake's show.

01:04:13.400 We did look back and find plenty of coverage of Trump walking down that ramp in a way that looked unsteady and how weirdly he was holding his water glass.

01:04:22.320 And he had Dr. Sanjay Gupta on to talk about the possible infirmity as a result of that.

01:04:27.780 That didn't happen in 2023 after the light bulb went off or in 2024 or when he was at the debate.

01:04:35.280 It's that this is I'm sorry, with all due respect, this is total revisionist history.

01:04:40.200 He knew they all knew they chose not to cover it or to run cover for Joe Biden because they hate Donald Trump.

01:04:49.920 That's that's the whole story.

01:04:51.400 Megan, you can go back to 2018.

01:04:53.480 The first time I ever heard people talking about Joe Biden and cognitive decline.

01:04:56.740 And I'm not kidding.

01:04:57.700 And I've written about this before and documented it.

01:04:59.940 Democratic Party insiders, you know, like the sort of strategists who go to work for campaigns, like the real hardcore partisans.

01:05:06.140 They were really worried in 2018 that Joe Biden was going to win the nomination simply because he was the most well known among Democratic voters.

01:05:12.500 He was Obama's vice president.

01:05:14.020 It seemed like he was next in line.

01:05:15.400 And they knew back then that Joe Biden was already in decline.

01:05:18.700 And they were petrified he'd get the nomination and wouldn't be able to withstand the rigors of the campaign.

01:05:22.920 They were the ones who were saying it first.

01:05:24.720 That's where I got it from.

01:05:26.120 Aside from my own observations.

01:05:28.180 And then it was only once, you know, that's when Cory Booker and Julian Castro brought up in the debate, made fun of Biden because he couldn't remember what he said two seconds ago.

01:05:36.460 So they're the ones who spread it.

01:05:37.940 And then once Biden became the last person standing with Bernie Sanders, they all said, this is off limits. 0.87

01:05:42.580 This is disgusting.

01:05:43.420 And Jake Tapper in that, the thing that I found so, you know, offensive about what Jake Tapper said was when Laura Trump said very innocuously, like, I watched Joe Biden.

01:05:54.100 I'm just kind of rooting for him to get the words out.

01:05:56.160 He didn't just tell her she was wrong.

01:05:57.700 He went and he accused her of creating a bullying atmosphere for children with stutters.

01:06:02.540 He was still on that stuttering thing.

01:06:04.080 You brought that up with him.

01:06:04.900 And he said, I called Laura Trump and privately apologized to her.

01:06:08.720 Why didn't he apologize on the air?

01:06:10.360 That's where he accused her of creating a bullying atmosphere for stutterers, for kids with stutterers.

01:06:15.260 And let's be honest, he only I'm sorry, but the only reason he called and apologized to her is because he knew he was going on a press tour.

01:06:21.620 That's I firmly believe that it just came out.

01:06:24.640 I mean, it was obvious when he said I called her a month ago, months ago.

01:06:26.740 OK, he signed the contract for this book right after the election.

01:06:30.380 So this thing is was rushed to press.

01:06:32.620 That would have been November of 2024.

01:06:34.920 And here we are about six months later.

01:06:37.460 And OK, so when when exactly did he call her?

01:06:39.720 Well, we just found out when exactly he called her because Laura Trump went on with Laura Ingram on Tuesday night.

01:06:45.560 Listen to SOT 6.

01:06:47.620 Jake Tapper called me about two months ago, actually.

01:06:51.240 And two months ago, he said, I have this book coming out and I know everybody's saying that I should apologize to you.

01:06:58.640 I plan whenever the book comes out to go on TV and I will say you were right and I was wrong.

01:07:04.660 And I guess to Jake's credit, he did that.

01:07:07.180 Did he actually call you or was the on air dramatic apology?

01:07:11.820 Was that it?

01:07:12.620 No, he called.

01:07:13.300 Well, he called me and said that he was going to do this.

01:07:16.040 So then.

01:07:16.940 OK, so.

01:07:17.900 But he didn't actually apologize to you in a subsequent phone call.

01:07:21.260 He said he was going.

01:07:22.380 So he said it's kind of like that.

01:07:24.880 And then, yeah, as people were kind of ribbing him more, he said, I told you whenever the book comes out, I guess it was May 20th.

01:07:30.820 Yeah, I would come out and say it.

01:07:33.880 Did he actually say I'm sorry or did he just say when my book hits, I'm going to say that the right was correct on like I I've met now less sure than I was before that an actual apology was issued.

01:07:47.800 It didn't sound like it from her.

01:07:51.160 And like, again, if you go on the air or in your column or wherever and you accuse somebody of something truly terrible, which is like bullying kids with disabilities, which is what he accused her of.

01:08:00.620 If you do that on the air, you don't call her privately and sort of say, hey, you were right.

01:08:05.240 You go on the air and you say I said something terrible.

01:08:07.720 It was completely basis.

01:08:08.660 I apologize to Laura Trump.

01:08:10.020 But the other thing about this is, you know, he's saying that was in 2020.

01:08:13.240 Everybody, remember, during the 2020 election, everyone understood that the thing that saved Joe Biden in that election was covid, which allowed him to run from his basement.

01:08:21.960 He was only going on very, very, very friendly interviews with like Nicole Wallace, who was talking to him like the way you talk to your infirm grandpa, you know, like when you go to visit him and you want to be like super sweet.

01:08:32.140 And this was all known for years.

01:08:34.300 This was not just 2023 and 2024.

01:08:36.380 And I think the big difference here, which is why this is so devastating to media credibility, you know, they did the same line in 2016 with Russiagate, the same thing in 2020 where they lied about the Hunter Biden laptop to help the Democrats.

01:08:48.060 But those things are like people don't have specialized knowledge of.

01:08:52.040 They, you know, most Americans here, you don't need Jake Tapper to tell you Joe Biden's incognitive decline because most Americans have had that experience with grandparents or parents or siblings or neighbors or whatever.

01:09:02.360 And they see it themselves and to watch the media continuously, vehemently, not just deny what they were seeing, but attacking anybody who was bringing it up and go watch the interview that that Jake Tapper did with Dean Phillips when he said he was running because of this.

01:09:17.840 Jake Tapper mauled him aggressively.

01:09:19.620 That was like everyone hates you. 0.97

01:09:21.380 Everyone hates you. 0.61

01:09:22.520 I'm hearing like this, the most vicious things about your character that you're.

01:09:26.280 And, you know, he and then he would like have a bunch of Democrats on.

01:09:29.480 He would ask them, have you ever seen Joe Biden in any any kind of odd state?

01:09:33.080 And they would, you know, they would always say no.

01:09:35.180 So he he was absolutely perpetrating this narrative.

01:09:38.020 And it goes all the way back to 2020.

01:09:40.040 And that's the other thing they're trying to revise.

01:09:41.760 It only started in 2023.

01:09:44.340 I know it's not true.

01:09:45.680 And here's the other pivot that they're trying to do.

01:09:48.580 Both of them.

01:09:49.000 I mean, I'll ask the audience because they watch this interview when Tapper and Thompson came on.

01:09:52.600 Does you notice a difference in how Alex Thompson sounds as he was on our show versus when he gets in front of a left wing audience on MSNBC?

01:10:03.400 Listen to this.

01:10:04.760 Sot to.

01:10:06.420 While we didn't know that much about Joe Biden's health, we we know even less about Donald Trump's health.

01:10:12.260 He was completely untransparent during the 2023 2024 campaign.

01:10:17.860 He has not been transparent since and there is no mechanism forcing him or any future president to being transparent about their health.

01:10:27.360 He could be on anything.

01:10:29.480 We really have no idea.

01:10:32.480 So I think it's like a really vital question.

01:10:36.580 Just hand out those little nuggets. 0.94

01:10:39.600 Right.

01:10:40.020 He knows exactly what the horses want to eat over there.

01:10:42.260 Also, sorry, but like I just read a statistic yesterday that Donald Trump has appeared to answer questions from the media in like lengthy sessions more times in the first five months of his presidency than any president going back like eight decades.

01:10:58.900 He he's constantly super transparent, super engaged.

01:11:02.560 I'm honestly shocked at the energy level that he has.

01:11:05.100 He flies all over the world.

01:11:06.240 He is constantly, you know, extremely active and he speaks every day and the American people get to hear him.

01:11:12.680 And that was the big difference between Joe Biden was they absolutely hit him.

01:11:15.720 He had no press conferences, no cabinet meetings, nothing.

01:11:18.240 And everyone knew why.

01:11:19.880 And so to try and make this equivalency like, oh, maybe Trump is also cognitively declined or in other way somewhat will because he wants to placate this liberal audience and say, oh, it's not just Biden, but maybe Trump, too. 0.99

01:11:31.600 That is really pathetic. 0.97

01:11:33.080 I try a lot of things, but not that. 0.98

01:11:35.160 Not only does Trump make himself available to virtually anybody often all the time, but he makes his cabinet available to anybody often all the time.

01:11:44.220 I mean, I jokingly said to my team, I'm like, they keep inviting me to go down to like podcasters row at the White House and have access to all cabinet secretaries so much.

01:11:53.540 I'm like, I just can't do it, guys.

01:11:55.680 I'm too busy.

01:11:57.100 I'd love to be down there full time interviewing every single cabinet secretary, but I don't I can't.

01:12:02.820 I have a family, but I say that in jest because it's a lovely opportunity and many are taking it and we see the cabinet secretaries everywhere and it's great.

01:12:13.880 So not only do we have the chance to interview Trump, but we have the chance to interview all the people in power about whatever we want to ask, including how does Trump seem?

01:12:21.820 You know, nothing's off limits with these people.

01:12:24.940 Every day, not you're right.

01:12:26.760 It's not just Trump, but like every day Trump comes out and says, I have this new policy.

01:12:30.720 We're working on the Iran deal.

01:12:31.900 We have this new policy in Israel.

01:12:33.020 We're working on Ukraine.

01:12:34.140 We have this tariff thing.

01:12:35.000 And he answers questions every single day directly, even from the part of the media that he hates.

01:12:39.200 It's not just like the right wing media that's getting invited to ask easy questions.

01:12:42.520 He goes at it every single day.

01:12:44.360 He does it on Air Force One.

01:12:45.360 He does it in every chance that he has.

01:12:47.920 And it is weird in the Biden administration.

01:12:50.820 They also hid the cabinet secretaries.

01:12:52.700 I don't know why.

01:12:53.500 Yeah.

01:12:53.820 Maybe because they didn't want to have them ask about their relationship with Biden.

01:12:57.320 But all the cabinet secretaries are on the media every day.

01:13:00.240 They're answering hard questions.

01:13:03.540 Like I have criticism of the Trump administration, but the transparency that they're bringing and the level of energy that Trump has and the willingness to confront every single question and explain his policies every day is really quite refreshing.

01:13:14.660 Because you've almost never seen that in our lifetime to that extent.

01:13:18.260 So picking up on this new pivot, you know, as the Thompson Tapper team switches to.

01:13:23.880 But Trump, Trump, Representative Seth Moulton out of Massachusetts.

01:13:28.300 This is the guy who did the 180 on gender right after they lost the election in November.

01:13:33.220 And then when he got pummeled by his party, he was like, what?

01:13:35.480 Oh, forget all that stuff I said about how unfair it is to see my daughters playing against boys and girls sports.

01:13:40.560 So strong guy, this Seth Moulton, super strong.

01:13:43.560 So he goes on with Martha McCallum on Fox and here's his line.

01:13:48.340 Watch this.

01:13:49.440 Are there moments when you say to yourself, I can't believe that we let him be president at that point, be commander in chief?

01:13:56.620 No, you know, the evidence we have is that he was still making the right decisions as commander in chief.

01:14:01.360 What I do know is that Trump's cabinet, several members of his cabinet had very real discussions about whether he was qualified to be president.

01:14:10.600 But Jake Sullivan, he didn't recognize Jake Sullivan at one point.

01:14:13.720 He didn't recognize you and he supported you.

01:14:16.220 Biden's cabinet apparently did not convene those discussions.

01:14:20.560 Unbelievable.

01:14:21.440 He's talking about Trump's cabinet after January 6th in.

01:14:26.360 Oh, I mean, after he lost the election to the date he left office in Trump 1.0.

01:14:30.700 And he's using the fact that the cabinet didn't try to 25th Amendment Biden as evidence that Biden was fit.

01:14:37.580 Even though the cabinet barely saw Biden.

01:14:41.300 But, you know, this is I think this is a really important thing for over a year.

01:14:44.540 Sorry, go ahead.

01:14:45.160 Exactly.

01:14:45.840 But this is important.

01:14:46.620 This is a really important thing that's getting overlooked.

01:14:48.480 So all these Democrats were saying, oh, and they saw Biden.

01:14:52.420 He was fine.

01:14:53.360 We all now know that it's not.

01:14:54.780 There's even stuff in the book that is kind of new, just about like certain like particular things that Biden couldn't do, the things they did to cover up.

01:15:02.220 There were times he didn't know where he was.

01:15:04.480 He couldn't follow a train of thought.

01:15:05.820 And yet I was always noticing in 2024 and 2023, there were major policy announcement being made all the time.

01:15:12.180 And the question I was always asking was, who's making these policy announcements?

01:15:15.960 Like who's running the executive branch?

01:15:17.940 Who ran the government for the last like year or year and a half or two years now that everybody admits that Biden couldn't?

01:15:24.060 Isn't that like a remarkable scandal for democracy that secret people in the dark who weren't elected had to assume the presidency by committee or in some other way because Joe Biden couldn't and the Democratic Party and the media all conspired to cover it up to get him a second term for four more years?

01:15:40.620 That, I think, is like genuinely disturbing as a question that's really not being delved into enough.

01:15:45.960 That's exactly right.

01:15:46.760 And there really should be accountability for all of them.

01:15:49.140 You know, there's still what we get with Pete Buttigieg is, oh, he's on the shortlist for the next nominee.

01:15:54.240 Really?

01:15:54.820 Is he?

01:15:55.640 I mean, how is he going to dodge this question?

01:15:58.100 Or if Kamala Harris, who they're still saying might run again, God help us.

01:16:01.620 Although I'm rooting for it.

01:16:02.800 Let's be honest.

01:16:04.500 How could she run again?

01:16:05.800 You know, it's like, how is she going to get past these questions?

01:16:08.360 She ran cover for him after that debate. 0.97

01:16:10.360 Like, oh, he just had a bad night and went on offense and got angry that Anderson Cooper really pressed her for once on the issue.

01:16:16.420 But Buttigieg, he was all over it.

01:16:18.780 He was definitely at the White House a fair amount and now wants us to believe he had no idea.

01:16:23.680 Same as he's out there now saying he had no idea about school closures.

01:16:27.680 Wait, I think we have that.

01:16:28.500 I'm looking at my SOT list.

01:16:30.040 Yeah, he, total revisionist history on Pete Buttigieg on school closures.

01:16:36.820 Here's, listen to what he just told Tim Miller on his podcast, SOT 24.

01:16:41.440 You're Pete from today.

01:16:42.760 And you get to talk to Pete from back then, or maybe Biden from back then.

01:16:46.100 And you get to give them some advice.

01:16:47.540 Give them some advice.

01:16:48.780 That would maybe prevent us from having this current present.

01:16:52.140 What do you think you all should have done differently?

01:16:56.740 One, for the love of God, figure out a way to get the schools open sooner.

01:17:03.820 We got very knee-jerk about this.

01:17:06.560 And the costs were not just politically, but in a profound way.

01:17:13.320 I think for the generation, the costs were profound.

01:17:15.600 And I think anybody who was involved, who was, by the way, obviously doing their best to deal with a crisis that killed a million Americans.

01:17:21.560 But I think most people involved would like to be able to have found a way to safely get more schools open more quickly.

01:17:27.740 Obviously, pay more attention to the border.

01:17:29.520 That's real.

01:17:31.520 And that's going to be something that you can't just, like, take your time to deal with.

01:17:37.060 Even though you spent your entire political lifetime believing that the economy and jobs are the same thing, and if you have lots of jobs, it's a good economy.

01:17:44.820 And if you have a problem with jobs, it's a bad economy.

01:17:49.080 Remember that prices is just as big a part of the economy.

01:17:52.860 It just hasn't come up much in the last 40 years, right?

01:17:56.100 Those are some things I'd be with. 0.98

01:17:58.300 This is ridiculous, Glenn. 0.51

01:18:00.380 Where was he when all of the rest of us were out there calling for them to reopen the schools? 0.93

01:18:07.840 When kids, poor kids in particular, were suffering from massive learning loss,

01:18:11.940 and it was being reported and was obvious, and the kids who needed to get out of the house because there was abuse happening in their homes.

01:18:20.940 And not only did they lose the means of escaping that abuse, but they lost their contact with the first reporters, who tend to be teachers.

01:18:27.960 Where was he then?

01:18:28.920 We looked back.

01:18:30.220 All we could find was one tweet, September 7, 2020.

01:18:35.180 To restore our economy, to fully and safely reopen schools, to move on with our lives, we have to first get this virus under control.

01:18:41.180 That starts with electing Joe Biden.

01:18:43.660 That's it.

01:18:44.960 His husband, Chasen, went and gave an interview with Time in July of 2020,

01:18:50.300 talking about how there's already a flight risk of teachers fleeing the profession.

01:18:54.820 I don't want to see teachers leaving the profession on gurneys.

01:18:58.120 And went on from there.

01:18:59.740 So these two, he and his husband were not out there calling for schools to open, as many of us were, very vocally.

01:19:05.480 But now he wants to be like Jake Tapper.

01:19:08.440 Like, I understood, you know, now I'm the voice of reason.

01:19:12.540 They should have been real.

01:19:13.340 But these are more lies.

01:19:14.460 Yeah, it reminded me of the Jake Tapper epiphany, where he woke up and said, hey, sometimes governments lie.

01:19:20.520 And Pete Buttigieg woke up and said, hey, you can have a lot of jobs.

01:19:23.620 But, like, if inflation is spiraling out of control, that might be a thing you're supposed to pay attention to.

01:19:27.840 Like, oh, really?

01:19:29.200 But the other thing that really angers me about this, Megan, like they should not be able to get away with,

01:19:33.020 it wasn't just that they weren't calling for schools to be reopened.

01:19:37.400 There were a lot of people calling for schools to be reopened.

01:19:40.500 And those types of people, the Pete Buttigieg, the whole Democratic Party, the Fauci worshipers,

01:19:44.940 called the people who were saying that grandma killers, killing teachers, not caring about the science.

01:19:52.360 Same thing with the border.

01:19:53.800 People who were saying, look, we cannot have untrammeled immigration into our country.

01:19:57.640 You know what Democrats called them? 0.98

01:19:59.240 White nationalists, racists, you know, white supremacists. 0.94

01:20:02.980 So you don't get to just wake up and after doing all of that, because now you see that in order to win an election, 0.92

01:20:08.480 you have to pretend to be on the other side and get to say, yeah, I didn't really give that adequate consideration.

01:20:14.100 Their whole worldview went awry.

01:20:16.140 And they have to grapple with that.

01:20:17.660 And I don't think they're going to be very credible if they go to the American people and be like, yeah,

01:20:21.160 now we believe in closed borders.

01:20:23.140 We wish we had opened the schools.

01:20:25.380 Why would anyone trust them, given that they have no willingness to say, I got this wrong and this is why I got it wrong,

01:20:31.680 just like Jake Tapper could have done but didn't when he wrote that book.

01:20:35.120 OK, so here's more of that.

01:20:36.740 So Ruben Gallego, he's a Democrat out in Arizona.

01:20:41.280 He won over Cary Lake in that run for the Senate seat.

01:20:46.260 Ruben Gallego comes out on the border in a new interview with the dispatch.

01:20:50.440 I think the president has done well with securing the border.

01:20:53.320 Let's put a victory on that.

01:20:54.640 And then let's figure out how to, in an organized way, deal with the 9 to 12 million people that are here illegally. 1.00

01:20:59.080 Let's put a victory on that, Glenn.

01:21:00.680 And then, cool, good job.

01:21:02.720 Trump took care of securing the border.

01:21:05.660 That's great.

01:21:06.060 Now we're just going to move on and we're just going to forget how the border got opened for four years,

01:21:12.400 letting millions flood in to kill and maim and rape and hook on drugs so many innocent Americans.

01:21:19.940 I don't know what I did to you, Megan, but you're showing me like the worst people saying the worst things throughout this entire show. 0.96

01:21:25.460 And it's like I'm trying so hard to endure it, but it's one after the next.

01:21:28.420 No, because, like, also remember the Democrats kept saying it's so, you know, this was their big excuse was we would love to help close the border.

01:21:38.120 The problem is that we can't because we need bipartisan legislation to do it.

01:21:41.420 And Trump blocked it in order to get a political advantage in the election.

01:21:44.860 Trump didn't have bipartisan legislation on the border, and yet he single-handedly got the border closed exactly the way that Republicans were saying Joe Biden could have done with the stroke of a pen had he really wanted to.

01:21:56.540 Look at how often the things that they're saying, like vehemently and loudly and in their media, end up being disproven.

01:22:03.160 And then Ruben Gallego is like, OK, I guess he accomplished this little trivial thing where he closed the border.

01:22:08.560 Let's move on now to some other debate where we can focus on moving forward.

01:22:12.340 He's also out there because he's an Arizona Democrat trying to moderate on the issue of boys and girls sports.

01:22:20.740 In that same interview, he says there are some sports that some of these trans children should not be playing, adding that it should be up to local institutions like school boards or associations to figure out the games and sports where there, quote, should be separation based on biology.

01:22:34.260 OK, and then he went on to talk about how the messaging trans kids needs to be super kind.

01:22:37.980 OK, they're going through this right now in California, where Gavin Newsom came out and gave that lip service to Charlie Kirk.

01:22:43.540 It's unfair. It's unfair. And then when pressed, when he was not standing next to Charlie Kirk, said, gee, you know, it just affects such a small number of people.

01:22:50.260 I can't really figure out what to do about it. So sorry. I can't figure it out.

01:22:53.800 What am I going to do anything? And now it's really coming to a head in California because here we are Thursday, tomorrow's Friday,

01:23:00.920 and the state championships in track and field for high school is there tomorrow.

01:23:04.980 They are tomorrow. Sorry, Saturday. And the din is getting very, very loud, even amongst California liberal parents saying this boy who says he's a girl should not compete.

01:23:19.140 He's stolen enough medals and blue ribbons and top spots from our girls.

01:23:24.620 He should not compete. And the local like the California foundation that runs sports has now after Trump issued a very scathing truth social post saying,

01:23:37.300 I'm going to sick the DOJ on you for not abiding by Title IX, which he now has done, and I'm going to stop it.

01:23:45.480 I'm not going to let this boy compete in. And there really are means of doing it if he wants to get serious about it.

01:23:51.100 But what he's really trying to do is uphold a federal law that would take precedence over the local, quote, human rights laws, which is what California is relying on.

01:24:00.560 And we talked about this with Dersh yesterday, but obviously because of the supremacy clause, he does have the right to do that.

01:24:05.260 So in the wake of all that, this local board says, oh, two things.

01:24:10.680 First, they just said, we're going to let girls who didn't get to go to states because of this boy's presence in their preliminaries go.

01:24:17.660 So if they only take the top two and you were you came in third behind a boy, a girl, and you were the third place finisher, you can go.

01:24:29.080 You can go compete in states. So, OK, that's not going to fix this, but it's at least something.

01:24:34.820 And now they're saying we're going to have multiple winners in the events.

01:24:43.120 So if there's a boy competing and he takes first, but then a girl will come in second.

01:24:49.160 She also, I think, takes first.

01:24:52.220 They're being kind of cagey about exactly how.

01:24:53.780 But they're saying they'll have more spots on the winner's podium for girls.

01:24:58.640 And let's just be as generous to them as humanly possible saying, OK, so we can both be first.

01:25:04.340 We both are first. I'm the first girl and you're the first pretend girl.

01:25:09.020 And this is supposed to satisfy all these girls because they're not entitled, Glenn, to have the glorious joy of actually getting the highest score.

01:25:16.880 The glorious joy of actually being the winner, not the co-winner, not the also winner, not the other one on the very top podium.

01:25:29.420 The rightful winner in the girls track and field state finals. 1.00

01:25:36.440 Shit's going to hit the fan. This is not solved. Your thoughts. 1.00

01:25:38.760 You know, I know a lot of people who I think have a like a good faith belief that trans kids or whatever should be able to participate in the sports of the gender that I identify, whatever.

01:25:50.260 I'm not one of them. But I know there are people who who do believe that.

01:25:53.800 Obviously, there are. The issue, though, is if you have some social justice movement, you cannot shove advancements or progress that you regard as such down the throats of the American people.

01:26:03.760 When they're saying they're 80 percent, 85 percent opposed to it across the entire ideological spectrum, you have to just say, OK, now is not the time and we can actually get this.

01:26:12.580 Maybe down the road we'll convince people. But right now it's an impossible issue.

01:26:15.960 And everybody knows that the Democrats keep giving Trump this huge gift where he gets to be like the hero who rides in and protects girls sports in a way that most Americans agree with.

01:26:24.660 And it makes the Democrats look bizarre and out of touch. And that's why that ad that Trump ran against comical was so effective.

01:26:30.280 The question then is, are Democrats just dumb? Like, do they want to just keep pursuing a policy that only 20 percent of the people support and 80 percent? 0.97

01:26:39.480 No. The issue is the LGBT lobby is a huge constituent funding base for the Democratic Party now.

01:26:46.600 It is massive. And they used to be dispersed. They used to work on like gay marriage issues and discrimination issues.

01:26:51.920 All of that is one. And instead of packing up, they all work on the trans issue. 0.79

01:26:56.180 They're very, very well funded. They fund Democratic Party institutions, the candidate to a massive degree.

01:27:01.660 And those groups do not permit Democratic politicians or Democratic candidates to take what is the obviously politically astute thing to say and say,

01:27:09.660 you know, trans adults deserve respect, but we're not at the point we can let these people participate.

01:27:14.400 And these interest groups in the Democratic Party are going to absolutely destroy them because this is an issue people feel strongly about.

01:27:21.680 And they've said it over and over and they've proven it over and over.

01:27:24.200 I got to tell you, there was a teacher at my daughter's school who chose the wrong child to mislead because another girl asked this teacher about the issue of boys playing in girls sports.

01:27:39.400 My daughter was standing right next to her and he told them there are only like 10 of them.

01:27:44.440 I don't know why this is even an issue. All right.

01:27:46.460 This is a man who I believe is in his 60s telling two 14 year old girls it's a non-issue.

01:27:52.980 So he will never have to endanger himself. My daughter's a soccer player.

01:27:57.680 She's not in track and field. There actually is danger to her. Actual danger.

01:28:02.520 The girls who are in field hockey, the girls who are in rugby, the girls who are in ice hockey, the girls who are in baseball.

01:28:07.400 You could go to the team sports, first of all, can never be addressed the way this fake bandaid is trying to address the track and field athletes out in California.

01:28:17.180 You are in danger playing against a biological boy.

01:28:19.860 Ask those girls in Lowell, Massachusetts, three of whom got hurt and they had to call the game because they were getting hurt and over and over and over by this guy.

01:28:27.400 In any event, it's a lie.

01:28:28.780 And it's a lie based on the John Oliver monologue, which pulled this line from the NCAA president who said,

01:28:35.200 I only know of 10 out trans people competing in NCAA sports.

01:28:41.260 But I just want to tell you something.

01:28:42.780 OK, I want the audience to understand this.

01:28:45.500 Out Sports, which is a pro LGBTQ organization.

01:28:49.320 Out Sports says in its in a recent article that they.

01:28:55.260 Have been that there have been well over 40 out trans athletes competing in college sports.

01:29:01.700 And they go on to say, quote, Out Sports knows that there are countless other trans athletes who have competed at the collegiate levels who have not been publicly out.

01:29:10.040 And then they give many examples.

01:29:11.360 They go on to say three of these trans people have won national championships.

01:29:16.520 And as for high schoolers, which is what we're looking at in California and what my daughter is about to go into middle school now, high schoolers.

01:29:23.660 The UCLA School of Law put out these estimates in just February, a few months ago, February of 2025, quoting,

01:29:32.860 We estimate there are as many as one hundred and twenty two thousand transgender youth between the ages of 13 and 17 who could be participating in high school level team athletics right now.

01:29:45.240 One hundred and twenty two thousand, not ten.

01:29:49.780 And this is not just a California problem.

01:29:52.260 It's not just a Lowell, Massachusetts problem.

01:29:54.840 It's a nationwide problem.

01:29:56.680 And these Democrats like Ruben Gallego better get on the right side.

01:30:01.100 And unlike Seth Moulton, stay there or they're going to get voted right out of office.

01:30:07.120 Totally.

01:30:07.920 I mean, Trump just demonstrated that it has a huge political punch.

01:30:11.800 And again, I don't even necessarily think it's because people know these statistics of how many trans athletes there are.

01:30:17.440 It has all kinds of other implications.

01:30:19.220 Like if you believe that trans girls should be able to participate in girls sports in high school, it has all those other implications for them.

01:30:26.480 The minute a prisoner says I'm a trans woman, they get put into facilities with women prisoners.

01:30:31.560 So there's a lot of safety issues.

01:30:33.120 But more than safety issues, it's just a thing that Americans aren't ready to accept.

01:30:36.800 They're not ready to endorse this gender ideology that's extremely radical and new. 0.98

01:30:41.020 They don't understand it.

01:30:42.320 They don't believe in it.

01:30:43.260 They're concerned by it.

01:30:44.180 They're alarmed by it.

01:30:45.480 And this idea that you're going to force it down their throats and not care about how often they keep telling you that they don't want it.

01:30:52.440 And not only don't they want it, but that they're willing to vote on it because it is a proxy to make it seem like Democrats, you know, the perception of Democrats is they don't care what most Americans think.

01:31:02.360 They think they know better.

01:31:04.040 And this is such a perfect proxy for showing that that Democrats keep ignoring the fact that 80 percent of the public doesn't want any of these things because they think they know better.

01:31:12.900 And they're just out of touch with the things Americans care about.

01:31:15.460 It's politically it's political poison, but I'm telling you, it's because of these interest groups that keep demanding it.

01:31:22.060 Yeah, I always like volleyball, field hockey, basketball.

01:31:26.680 Like it doesn't work to just say everyone gets a trophy.

01:31:30.320 There are actual safety issues in most sports.

01:31:33.800 We talk about swimming.

01:31:35.260 We talk about track because there the issue isn't safety.

01:31:37.880 It's fairness.

01:31:38.640 And that's equally important.

01:31:40.420 But in most sports, both of these issues are at play and you cannot solve for safety by giving out multiple podium spots or medals.

01:31:49.320 Glenn stays with us.

01:31:50.000 We take a break.

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01:32:46.140 Lend, just because I don't feel you've gotten enough annoying people, soundbites to react to,

01:32:52.340 I bring you Kamala Harris.

01:32:54.240 I do.

01:32:55.500 The cherry on the cake.

01:32:56.840 She's represented by CAA, who is clearly having trouble getting her bookings because she's over in Australia giving a speech to a real estate convention, which I have been represented by CAA.

01:33:10.280 Let me tell you, this is not the highbrow booking.

01:33:12.860 No offense to my Aussie real estate friends, but this, I'm sure Kamala Harris was hoping for something a little more prestigious and in the U.S. 0.98

01:33:23.740 But she's not getting it because no one wants to pay for her, of course, because she's not, she just says nothing.

01:33:29.260 She's one big walking air sandwich. 1.00

01:33:30.880 So she goes over there, and what's interesting is I guess she forgot that there's a camera on her because we are familiar with these lines, but maybe the Aussies aren't. 0.92

01:33:41.860 And she rolls out this old chestnut, Glenn, which we heard from her so many times during the campaign.

01:33:47.800 Here it is in SOT 22.

01:33:51.960 I don't hear no.

01:33:55.300 I eat no for breakfast.

01:33:58.820 I don't hear no until maybe the 10th time.

01:34:04.160 I cannot tell you the many times that it has been explicitly or explicitly said to me.

01:34:11.600 It's not your time.

01:34:14.960 You're not ready.

01:34:16.880 They're not ready.

01:34:17.800 Nobody like you has done this.

01:34:22.280 And then when I thought, oh, it's going to be a lot of hard work.

01:34:26.880 Don't you listen.

01:34:29.420 I eat no for breakfast.

01:34:31.280 You lost by 2.3 million votes, and you lost every single swing state.

01:34:36.040 It was a hard no, and you did take it because you had no alternative.

01:34:40.320 She doesn't eat no for breakfast.

01:34:42.060 No ate her lunch.

01:34:43.740 It's amazing.

01:34:44.600 She was also a national laughingstock because of her complete lack of political skill or ability, including being forced out to drop out of the 2020 race before a single vote was cast. 0.94

01:34:55.800 And she had absolutely no idea what she was talking about on anything other than law and prosecutions.

01:35:00.280 But also, there were articles recently about Joe Biden's difficulty in having that post-presidential suck up of millions of dollars because they go speak to think tank groups or investment banks or get paid massive amounts for speeches.

01:35:15.480 Nobody wants to hear Joe Biden speak because everyone knows his brain is melting, but also because he has this sense of defeat and scandal and loserishness.

01:35:24.760 And no one really wanted to hear Biden before.

01:35:26.640 Same with Kamala Harris.

01:35:27.880 She was, I mean, the way the media pretended for about two months that she was some cultural phenomenon that the entire country was coalescing around because they were so excited by her dynamism and charisma was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

01:35:42.760 And what would Kamala Harris have to say about anything?

01:35:46.940 And also, I don't think it's odd that the last two or three weeks of her presidency was devoted to the idea that Trump really was a fascist, really was Hitler, really was coming to dismantle democracy.

01:35:57.780 He then wins, gets into office, and she just disappears.

01:36:01.520 As a citizen of the United States, she's not using her plot.

01:36:06.180 Yeah, she's going to like Broadway shows. 0.54

01:36:08.100 And then that weird, wouldn't you be so embarrassed to go give a paid speech to real estate interest in Australia?

01:36:13.700 Because everybody would know that that's the only people who are willing to have you.

01:36:17.820 Right.

01:36:18.320 That's the problem is like, you know, it'd be one thing if that were like the heels of a 10-city tour and like, okay, she wanted to see Australia.

01:36:25.280 But this is something else entirely.

01:36:27.560 I assume this was not a Freudian slip, but you said during the last few weeks of her presidency.

01:36:33.640 And I got a shiver down my spine.

01:36:34.960 Of her campaign, yes.

01:36:35.600 I'm sorry for to alarm people in case they thought I was aware of a history that wasn't real.

01:36:40.160 No, unnecessary bile came up there, Glenn.

01:36:42.760 Let me give you one more because this is another one of her favorites.

01:36:45.900 Back on the topic of, well, you'll hear, Sot 21.

01:36:50.060 Part of the key to our survival is that we are adaptable, but we are also ambitious.

01:36:59.500 I applaud ambition.

01:37:02.060 I applaud ambition.

01:37:03.880 She's drunk again.

01:37:04.900 To reach.

01:37:07.040 But not without also understanding that in so doing, one must do the hard work.

01:37:14.460 Oh, God.

01:37:15.580 One must understand the context in which they exist.

01:37:18.880 One must be respectful.

01:37:20.660 It's the same.

01:37:23.800 It's the same pablum ambition, aspirations, and dreams, and hard work.

01:37:28.880 The context in which you exist.

01:37:30.700 She's got no other tools in her arsenal. 0.80

01:37:34.680 She has a single, small set of words.

01:37:37.640 And only those words can ever be used in any public setting, Glenn.

01:37:41.780 I'm not saying this for a fact.

01:37:44.980 Like, I would honestly pay not to hear that speech more readily than I would pay to hear it.

01:37:52.260 But, you know, the thing that I just realized, and I've been realizing this before, but it came to me in this, like, very specific way with that really particularly, like, just grading clip.

01:38:00.740 She talks in, like, with the kind of superficial wisdom of, like, a very basic self-help book, like the kind of paperback that you pick up about how to, like, you know, seize the future or whatever.

01:38:13.100 And they're very simplistic ideas, but she says them as though they're the most profound philosophical revelations. 0.91

01:38:20.380 And the, like, incompatibility of the way she delivers it as though she's so thoughtful and perceptive and brilliant, combined with the utter idiocy and simplicity of what she's telling you.

01:38:32.200 Like, it's like a sixth grade lecture on, like, believing in yourself and nothing more other than, like, these drunk asides that are sometimes annoying. 0.62

01:38:40.520 It's one of the worst things to have to sit and listen to and endure.

01:38:43.420 I'd rather watch Michelle Obama's podcast.

01:38:45.640 Right. I can't remember what show or movie it was, but they were mocking, like, the self-help industry.

01:38:52.760 And some character had just read a book or written one called Into Me See.

01:38:59.400 Right? Like, Into Me See.

01:39:01.180 That's Kamala Harris. 0.98

01:39:02.320 I bet she would buy such a book and then repeat its musings as though they were her own and true profundities.

01:39:08.100 All right. Stand by.

01:39:08.860 We're going to keep Glenn for a few extra minutes because we have to get into what Dan Bongino, deputy director at the FBI now, said to Fox about Jeffrey Epstein and a couple of other key investigations that the FBI just renewed.

01:39:24.420 Stand by for that.

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01:41:26.280 So I've got to ask you about what is happening at the FBI, okay?

01:41:30.060 Because this audience knows I do not have a conspiratorial bone in my body.

01:41:35.300 I truly don't.

01:41:35.840 Like I, I reject virtually all of them.

01:41:38.780 Um, I, I just, I just don't, I'm just not like minded toward believing in virtually any

01:41:44.780 of them.

01:41:45.540 Um, probably too much so, to be honest, but this one, this is weird.

01:41:49.280 Something weird is happening at the FBI or so it would seem.

01:41:52.620 So Cash Patel sat down with Brett Baer for special report last night, meaning Wednesday

01:41:57.520 evening.

01:41:58.440 And they got into a bit of like, what's happening with the Epstein files?

01:42:03.340 Where are they?

01:42:04.600 Like, listen to this.

01:42:05.960 There are.

01:42:06.540 The Epstein thing, you dealt with Maria, you said, as far as you know, he killed himself.

01:42:11.420 I'm telling you he killed himself.

01:42:13.160 The other thing on the internet is the Epstein files.

01:42:16.580 What's the answer to that?

01:42:18.260 The answer to that is the same as everything else.

01:42:21.560 I'm not going to withhold information from the American public ever, but I'm also not going

01:42:27.500 to rush to get it out there in a format in which they can't rely on it.

01:42:32.120 So on the Epstein matter or any other matters, we are diligently working on that.

01:42:35.820 And it takes time to go through years of investigations, years of political maneuvering and years of cover

01:42:44.080 up to get the American people what they deserve.

01:42:45.980 And that's what I'm going to give him on everything.

01:42:48.220 Yeah.

01:42:49.140 Hmm.

01:42:50.640 Okay.

01:42:51.920 So that's him talking about Epstein.

01:42:54.840 He said he believes Epstein committed suicide and that they're going through the files to

01:43:00.100 make sure we get everything.

01:43:01.400 This, of course, comes on the heels of Pam Bondi calling all these influencers to the White

01:43:05.120 house and giving them files saying, this is everything only to find out that everything

01:43:10.020 in those files was already publicly released and there was absolutely nothing new in them.

01:43:13.300 Okay.

01:43:14.040 Then she said, the FBI has got documents we didn't know about.

01:43:16.360 So we're going to get to the bottom of them.

01:43:17.600 This is months ago.

01:43:18.980 And now he says they're going through them.

01:43:21.500 I mean, it's been a while.

01:43:23.040 I'm not sure.

01:43:23.680 Okay.

01:43:23.900 I don't, I'm not saying he's lying.

01:43:24.980 I just don't know what's happening here.

01:43:26.040 I haven't figured it out.

01:43:26.720 So Dan Bongino goes on Fox and friends and here he is talking about Epstein.

01:43:32.640 Sot 12.

01:43:33.040 There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case, and there's going to

01:43:38.380 be a disclosure on this coming shortly.

01:43:40.820 We are working through some, there is video.

01:43:44.000 That is something the public does not.

01:43:45.680 There's video of him killing himself.

01:43:46.940 No, no, not, not the actual act, but there, the entire MCC Bay, it was only one camera.

01:43:54.320 There were other, there's video that when you look at the video and we will release,

01:43:58.720 that's what's taken a while on this.

01:43:59.920 We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced, and we're going to give

01:44:03.860 the original so you don't think there were any shenanigans.

01:44:06.480 You're going to see there's no one there, but him, right?

01:44:09.160 There's just nobody there.

01:44:10.020 So I say to people all the time, if you have a tip, let us know, but there's no DNA.

01:44:14.400 There's no audio.

01:44:15.440 There's no fingerprints.

01:44:16.400 There's no suspects.

01:44:17.140 There's no accomplices.

01:44:18.300 There's no tips.

01:44:19.320 There is nothing.

01:44:20.260 If you have it, I'm happy to see it.

01:44:22.480 There's video clear as day.

01:44:24.080 He's the only person in there and the only person coming out.

01:44:27.280 You can see it.

01:44:28.340 All right, Glenn, what's happening?

01:44:29.420 Because it, it doesn't take that long to clean up, quote, clean up surveillance video

01:44:34.880 from one camera of one cell.

01:44:37.920 Like, I'm not sure what's happening here.

01:44:39.840 I trust Dan.

01:44:41.020 I don't know cash as well, but I trust Dan, but I'm not sure we're getting the straight

01:44:45.080 scoop.

01:44:45.340 Well, I think that's the key context is that the two people kind of being out front on

01:44:50.920 this are Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, who over the last four years is kind of pundits and

01:44:56.000 guests on podcasts and the like have been among the most popular people in the MAGA movement,

01:45:02.000 the most trusted people on the MAGA movement, and also the most militant when it came to the

01:45:05.780 Epstein files.

01:45:06.920 You can find tape of both of them, especially Kash Patel saying it is an outrage that we don't

01:45:11.640 have these files.

01:45:12.280 The FBI director could release them today.

01:45:14.840 What is he hiding?

01:45:16.280 So that created an expectation that when Kash Patel and Dan Bongino got into that exact

01:45:21.960 office, FBI director, deputy director, that they would then rectify what they had been

01:45:25.980 so vociferously complaining about.

01:45:27.600 Here we are five months later and we don't actually have anything.

01:45:30.240 The second thing is I'm not somebody who really aggressively doubted that Jeffrey Epstein

01:45:35.360 killed himself.

01:45:36.020 I could see somebody who lived a life of luxury and, you know, living the highlight.

01:45:42.780 Facing certain life in prison and deciding it's not worth it and trying to kill themselves.

01:45:46.780 I don't really understand why people kill themselves in a federal prison, but it's happened

01:45:50.020 before.

01:45:50.880 But if they have proof that he killed himself, why don't they release it?

01:45:55.880 That was the whole idea of transparency.

01:45:58.520 And OK, if there's a video that needs work, how about the documents and the file they said

01:46:02.080 they've seen?

01:46:02.760 But here's the biggest issue, Megan, with the Epstein file.

01:46:05.460 The question that has always hovered over the Jeffrey Epstein case was he got that sweetheart

01:46:10.860 deal back in 2010 for trafficking minors for prostitution from Alex Acosta.

01:46:16.160 He barely went to prison, got like a sweetheart deal.

01:46:18.200 And Alex Acosta said afterward, I was told he was intelligence and therefore to leave him

01:46:23.580 alone.

01:46:24.000 So the real question, aside from like, are there people who participate with Jeffrey Epstein

01:46:28.380 that we haven't heard of yet?

01:46:29.700 And I'm not sure of that.

01:46:30.720 We've had a lot of client lists released and the like, are, was Jeffrey Epstein working with

01:46:36.180 or for foreign intelligence agencies or domestic intelligence agencies?

01:46:40.980 And if they have a thousand or 5,000 videos of Jeffrey Epstein having sex with minors, feel

01:46:46.400 free to go watch those.

01:46:47.420 That's not what people are interested in them.

01:46:48.880 Why can't they first release those documents, documents about who else to whom he sex trafficked

01:46:55.880 children, given that nobody has been charged with receiving the sex trafficking, only Epstein

01:47:00.440 with the sex trafficking?

01:47:01.840 Those are the kinds of things that I don't think we're getting very persuasive answers

01:47:04.840 from.

01:47:05.180 And Pam Bondi's excuse, oh, we have all these sex tapes to go through. 0.84

01:47:09.300 That's not relevant to either of those questions.

01:47:11.700 Go through those sex tapes over years.

01:47:13.140 But in the meantime, give us these relevant documents that you promised very vocally that when you got

01:47:18.120 into power, you would give us.

01:47:20.000 It's starting to smell for sure.

01:47:22.980 Like when they, they both gave a joint interview, Dan and Cash, um, and they were like, he committed

01:47:29.440 suicide.

01:47:30.000 They, they looked like hostages.

01:47:31.800 It, they just, and they have the disadvantage of us having heard countless hours of Dan in

01:47:37.660 particular speaking extemporaneously and from the heart.

01:47:40.540 And he is an honest guy, but there's certain limits to how honest you can be when you're holding

01:47:44.640 these positions.

01:47:45.180 And I had the same reaction that a lot of people had, which is he looks like he's not

01:47:49.540 being fully transparent.

01:47:51.460 What do they know that they don't want us to know?

01:47:53.920 And this is the best theory I've heard what you just espoused, that it's something having

01:47:58.320 to do with Jeffrey Epstein's ties to intelligence.

01:48:00.640 And that would be something they'd have to keep covered potentially.

01:48:03.900 And they don't, they, they can't say it.

01:48:06.060 They can't be something we should know, though.

01:48:07.900 Like to be, they would, they would keep it covered, but it's something we should absolutely

01:48:11.560 know.

01:48:12.620 And I think that's the money problem.

01:48:13.580 But they won't tell that.

01:48:15.320 What if he's our asset, right?

01:48:16.600 If he's our, if he's our asset, like they're not going to run around saying he was our asset.

01:48:20.540 Or an ally's asset, or we should just know that is a, I mean, Jeffrey Epstein committed

01:48:26.500 some of the most grotesque crimes involving huge numbers of American elites over many years.

01:48:30.540 We should know the answer to that question.

01:48:32.560 Was this an intelligence operation at the beginning or at some point in the middle?

01:48:36.300 And they have those answers and we don't.

01:48:39.180 Mm-hmm.

01:48:39.760 Okay.

01:48:40.100 Now here's the second point on the subject of the pipe bombs, which they announced earlier

01:48:43.900 this week.

01:48:44.540 They're going to reopen the investigation into who put a pipe bomb at the DNC offices and

01:48:50.940 also at the RNC offices.

01:48:53.640 And Kamala Harris's motorcade drove right by the one.

01:48:57.000 So Cash Patel first on that.

01:48:59.080 Do we have a SOT now?

01:49:00.180 SOT 45.

01:49:02.240 Does the FBI know who it is?

01:49:03.800 The FBI, under me and Dan Bongino's leadership, has reestablished that investigations of great

01:49:10.940 public importance that almost blew up the DNC and RNC in Washington, D.C., an area in which

01:49:17.080 then-Vice President Harris was in the vicinity of, is something that needs to be answered.

01:49:22.180 And we learned that FBI leadership in the prior administration slow-rolled and basically

01:49:28.260 shut that investigation off.

01:49:29.440 So we turned it on and we have some great leads and Dan is actually going to talk about

01:49:33.820 that when he does Fox and Friends tomorrow.

01:49:36.120 Okay.

01:49:36.660 You don't want to give us a little something?

01:49:38.680 I can't get ahead of everybody.

01:49:40.180 All right.

01:49:40.520 All right.

01:49:41.920 So the pipe bombs are also suspicious because they were placed on January 5th at the DNC and

01:49:48.640 the RNC, we believe, and discovered the next day, January 6th in the afternoon.

01:49:53.960 And now here we are, I mean, four plus, four and a half years later, and we don't have a

01:50:01.480 suspect.

01:50:02.220 And the question there is like, what's going on?

01:50:05.180 Why don't we don't?

01:50:06.320 We don't have a suspect on that?

01:50:07.980 Like a bomb that almost took out the vice president?

01:50:10.120 Like, seems like something we'd have an all hands on deck situation on under Biden and

01:50:15.340 then under Trump, but we didn't.

01:50:18.260 And so then we look forward to Dan Bongino going on Fox and Friends this morning because

01:50:21.560 Cash Patel is the one who teed him up.

01:50:23.180 Like Dan's going to have more news on that tomorrow.

01:50:25.080 And we didn't cut this out because it was so unfulfilling.

01:50:28.040 I'll just tell you what he said.

01:50:29.480 He was asked exactly, you know, hey, heard there's a major break.

01:50:32.920 What's the news?

01:50:34.140 Quote, we got a good tip this morning.

01:50:37.540 We're going to run it out.

01:50:38.700 We're not going to be able to make that public, obviously, right away because we have to make

01:50:43.200 sure, you know, we have to go through all the proper steps, which means there is no

01:50:48.040 news, which means Cash Patel was just trying to bounce past it to Dan so he could get off

01:50:52.640 of the hot seat, which makes perfect sense because he looked visibly uncomfortable answering

01:50:56.660 that question.

01:50:57.680 And in the beginning of the question, can we just tee it up?

01:51:00.300 Because when I heard it the first time, I thought there's he dodged.

01:51:02.800 He got out of bounds at the beginning of that question.

01:51:04.480 And then he kind of started a filibuster with filler and then landed it with a bounce pass

01:51:08.960 to Dan.

01:51:09.440 Can we just re-rack it and watch the beginning of that again?

01:51:13.000 Does the FBI know who it is?

01:51:14.820 The FBI, under me and Dan Bongino's leadership, has re-established that investigations of great

01:51:21.440 public importance that almost blew up the DNC and RNC in Washington, D.C., an area in which

01:51:27.580 then-Vice President Harris was in the vicinity of is something that needs to be answered.

01:51:32.800 And we learned that FBI leadership-

01:51:34.700 Is something that needs to be answered.

01:51:36.480 That, I, no offense to Cash Patel, but that does not sound like a truth teller to me at

01:51:40.960 all.

01:51:41.680 Truth tellers run toward the truth.

01:51:45.300 Yes, we know.

01:51:46.920 No, we don't know.

01:51:48.820 They don't look up and give you general statements about the FBI and general investigatory measures.

01:51:56.060 There's something's going on here with the pipe bomb thing.

01:51:58.680 And now Dan Bongino gets on Fox and Friends and says that filler, empty stuff, which didn't

01:52:05.100 advance the ball at all.

01:52:07.820 Yeah, exactly.

01:52:09.040 And you notice the passive phrasing there, too.

01:52:11.100 Cash Patel said, this is a question that needs to be answered.

01:52:13.840 Like, the ones who are answering it are you and the FBI.

01:52:18.540 Now, I would say, yeah, like, it needs to be answered.

01:52:21.400 Yeah, yeah, by you.

01:52:22.360 Now, I would say, in their defense, that I, you know, am somewhat sympathetic to the idea

01:52:27.520 that these are gigantic agencies.

01:52:29.040 The FBI is sprawling with files, a lot of the other people involved in this.

01:52:32.960 It might take some time to get in, hire your staff, whatever, figure things out.

01:52:36.180 And then, you know, an investigation like this makes some progress and it might take a little

01:52:41.040 time.

01:52:41.820 But this is not what they were saying over the last four years.

01:52:44.560 And I, you know, what bothers me is the lack of candor, as you were just saying, especially

01:52:52.960 given how much trust they cultivated in people talking about these issues.

01:52:56.260 Like, you should say, here are the leads we have.

01:52:59.600 We haven't followed up on them.

01:53:00.780 We still don't have this evidence.

01:53:02.460 We think we're going to have it shortly.

01:53:04.320 Here's why we don't have it.

01:53:05.960 You know, this world that they're in and all of these things that happen, like the pipe

01:53:10.600 and the Epstein thing, this is a very dark world where, like, the dark arts are practiced.

01:53:15.660 And I know you're saying you don't believe conspiracy theories.

01:53:17.440 You know, this is pretty basic about how the U.S. security state functions.

01:53:21.580 And people who get into office, even at high offices, face a lot of pushback from very powerful

01:53:27.620 factions who don't want things revealed that they had set out to reveal.

01:53:31.940 And no matter how honest you are, no matter how strong you are, like Dan Bongino, I think,

01:53:35.920 is once you get into those positions at that level and you're playing that high of a game,

01:53:42.140 there's a lot of other players involved who are doing things to make you nervous, to make

01:53:47.360 you intimidated, to make you scared, or just overruling you.

01:53:51.040 And that, to me, is how they seem.

01:53:53.520 Like, they know they're not telling their supporters what they want to hear or explaining why they

01:53:58.740 can't.

01:53:59.560 And so it seems like there's other things going on that they're bothered by, almost a

01:54:04.320 little alarmed about, and yet not willing to explain.

01:54:07.380 And that's, I think, why everybody has a good feeling you're getting.

01:54:10.220 And they definitely have the disadvantage.

01:54:13.140 A lot of people know Kash Patel very well and have listened to him on podcasts endlessly.

01:54:16.440 I'm not one of them.

01:54:17.480 But I know Dan very well.

01:54:19.080 And so it's a disadvantage to Dan because we know how Dan speaks.

01:54:22.020 See, there's no one more frank.

01:54:23.480 There's no one more direct.

01:54:24.960 So to hear him, you know, try to do the dance a little is like, ah, my spidey senses are up.

01:54:31.380 I love the guy.

01:54:32.260 But something's going on there.

01:54:33.620 There's more news is coming.

01:54:34.800 All right, last one.

01:54:36.680 Dan had the following exchange this morning on Fox and Friends about, well, I'll let it

01:54:41.380 play out.

01:54:41.680 Just watch it.

01:54:42.180 Salt 11.

01:54:43.720 We were there a couple of weeks.

01:54:46.360 And luckily, there were a lot of people up there who grabbed us by the arm the minute

01:54:50.980 we came in and said, thank you for being here.

01:54:53.380 You know, we need to talk.

01:54:55.440 There are people there who are really horrified at what happened.

01:54:58.100 And there was a room and we found stuff, a lot of stuff.

01:55:03.540 A hidden room.

01:55:04.820 I wouldn't call it hidden, but hidden from us, at least, and not mentioned to us.

01:55:09.280 And then we found stuff in there.

01:55:11.020 And a lot of it's from the Comey era.

01:55:12.960 And we are working our damnedest right now to declassify.

01:55:16.460 And just so you know, because I get the public.

01:55:18.520 I totally understand people saying, well, do it now.

01:55:20.580 The process is not all the information is ours to declassify.

01:55:24.400 Some is other intelligence agencies.

01:55:26.300 It's not.

01:55:26.660 We literally can't do it.

01:55:28.660 Once that gets done and that gets out there and you read some of the stuff we found that,

01:55:32.420 by the way, was not processed through the normal procedure, digitizing it, putting in

01:55:36.460 FBI records.

01:55:37.380 We found it in bags hiding under Jim Comey's FBI.

01:55:41.460 You're going to be stunned.

01:55:43.460 You're going to be stunned, he said.

01:55:45.500 Now, that's interesting, Glenn.

01:55:47.060 And I believe him that he's not, I think he said stuff because he can't describe classified

01:55:52.000 documents in a way that wouldn't be problematic.

01:55:54.560 So he's trying to be careful about not revealing something he's not at liberty to reveal there

01:55:58.940 too.

01:55:59.560 But very interesting that James Comey's FBI seems to have been actively hiding some sort

01:56:06.300 of important documents pretty carelessly as well.

01:56:11.540 We know James Comey's FBI engaged in all kinds of massive wrongdoing.

01:56:15.700 Ended up disseminating complete falsehoods to interfere in the election, did everything

01:56:20.500 they could to sabotage the Trump campaign, even though it's the gravest abuse of the

01:56:25.480 FBI's power to interfere politically in domestic politics.

01:56:28.740 I'm not surprised there's all sorts of things hidden, and I do think it's going to take them

01:56:33.120 some time to find them out.

01:56:35.880 But I guess the problem, again, I'm having is that this is not an excuse they accepted

01:56:40.980 from other people who had been in office, in these offices, promising to get to the

01:56:45.060 bottom of these investigations when they were banging on the tables, demanding they

01:56:48.340 be released immediately.

01:56:49.760 And I think they need to do a better job of reconciling that, like why they suddenly sound

01:56:53.820 like the very people they spent the last four years bashing.

01:56:56.820 There's good reasons.

01:56:58.140 But I think they owe an explanation, given how blatant this 180 is in terms of how they're

01:57:03.240 speaking and what they're saying.

01:57:05.640 There is more to this story that I think we we both can say and we'll continue to follow

01:57:11.680 it.

01:57:11.920 You got to watch System Update with Glenn on Rumble.

01:57:15.980 Always a pleasure, my friend.

01:57:17.300 Thanks for being here.

01:57:18.420 Always so good to see you, Megan.

01:57:19.420 Thanks so much.

01:57:21.000 OK, and I want to tell the audience that we didn't get to the updates on the Diddy trial,

01:57:24.800 and there are a lot of them as this former assistant to Diddy.

01:57:27.780 Yet another takes a stand and testifies at length, and then this third alleged woman 0.62

01:57:33.800 who the prosecution is claiming he abused.

01:57:38.020 We're going to get to it all in a deep dive on tomorrow's AM update, which is doing very

01:57:44.080 well.

01:57:44.540 So thanks to all of you who do listen to that, and I hope you enjoy tomorrow's because

01:57:48.080 we're going to bring you all the very latest.

01:57:50.240 We'll talk to you then.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 29, 2025

WNBA Race Hoax, Michelle Obama's Grudge Against Barack, and Cagey FBI Epstein Comments, with Glenn Greenwald ｜ Ep. 1083

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