Woke Frauds Exposed, Jew Haters at Universities, and Matthew Perry and the Drug of Fame, with Andrew Klavan | Ep. 659
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As Americans prepare to celebrate Halloween, let's remember that it's a sweet day for all of us, whether we're Jewish or not. Happy Halloween! Happy Halloween, everyone! Megynkelly
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Halloween.
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I'm going to tell you more about my Halloween plans just a little bit later in the show and
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a Strudwick story you're not going to want to miss. Well, as Americans prepare to celebrate
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today, and it really is a sweet day for us, isn't it? I hope it can be whether you're
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Jewish or not, too. Abby was just there with her littles. She's got two little girls at the parade
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that they go to. I mean, those are the things, right? Those are the things life is made out of.
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That's what makes life meaningful. Just to see your little one walk in the Halloween parade in
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her little costume. Please don't forget to do that stuff in the midst of all this darkness and madness.
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The human soul can only take so much, so much darkness coming in these days. It has to be
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counterbalanced with this kind of goodness. So Halloween is going to be a great night,
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hopefully, for all of us as we see the littles come to the door. And not just that little.
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My kids are going out. My eldest is 14. He's still going. He wants his candy. So I hope yours
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are, too. And I hope you manage to have some of that happiness in your world this evening.
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Look, there's one other slice of promise in the horrific news that we've been watching out
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of the Middle East, and that is domestically. It does appear that some are finally waking up to
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just how out of control our woke college campuses are, how destructive they have been.
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It seems every hour we get more and more examples of extreme anti-Semitism. The White House now vowing
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to do something about it, preparing to dispatch Education Secretary Miguel Cardona and domestic policy
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advisor near a tendon to a university to hold a roundtable with Jewish students.
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Okay. I'll look forward to that. They're going to have a roundtable at one university with a few Jews.
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Okay. That's okay. Terrific. There's a little bit more. They're allowing the FBI now to investigate
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some of these death threats we're seeing on the campuses, and they're folding in campus security
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to some of the alerts that are going out when it comes to, you know, threats, terror threats.
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At some universities, we're seeing, like Cornell, they're increasing patrols and security for Jewish
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students who remain under threat, and the FBI, as I mentioned, is going to look into the threats
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specifically made there. Meantime, over at Harvard, President Claudine Gay, whose days are numbered,
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they are numbered. She's just, she's handled this so abominably, she's going, mark my words.
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She's now launching an advisory board to combat anti-Semitism on campus. Anti-Semitism. Acknowledging
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anti-Semitism has a very long and shameful history at Harvard. She's got her work cut out for her.
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Just last night, this video was posted showing a man at Harvard Square making some of the most
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vile remarks we've heard yet, and that's saying something. He's, of course, wearing a face mask
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mask because all of these guys who go out there are cowards. You'll see plenty of examples in the
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coverage of the people pulling down the posters and hiding their faces. They don't want you to
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know who they are because they're cowards. This is why we need to confront them and not cower.
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So far, to this moment at least, we don't know who this is, but we'll find out. Watch.
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Every time I see those signs, you know what I do? I rip them down. I love Hamas. I think Hamas-
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I think Hamas should blow the fuck out of Israel. I think they're all dirty, dirty animals.
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That's not anti-Semitism? That's not anti-Semitism?
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Every single one of them. And their kids, their mothers, their children, everybody.
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Thank you for proving our point. Have a lovely night.
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See them in the nation, you know, line them up.
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Okay, Unabomber. Take off your little hood and your mask and just show us your face if
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you're so bold and you're so brave. Let's see it. Go ahead. I come on camera every day and
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I say people like you are disgusting. You're an absolute bigot. Why don't you take off your
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mask and show us who you are? You're such a big man. Of course, he's not. Of course,
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he's a petty coward, bigot, and he's afraid because he's probably got some white shoe job
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lined up so he doesn't want his employers to know how he really feels. Well, we're going
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to find out. Sorry. That's how this game works. Thanks to these wonderful warriors who are out
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there with their iPhones filming these losers. It's amazing. The pushback by the people doing the
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videotapes. I love those people. It's amazing. That's the way forward. But we're not
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done with some of the villains of the day. A lovely gal from George Mason University down
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in Virginia. Watch as she is confronted by a man as she takes down the posters of the missing
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hostages. Why'd you tear that flyer down? I'm trying to raise awareness for it and people have
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been taking down these flyers. Why are you? Why are you tearing that down? I just have to put up
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more. Okay, then go ahead. Well, I'd like it back. Yeah. Sorry. Excuse me. I put that flyer up. I
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would like it back. Why? Why do you think this is acceptable? These people are kidnapped.
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She's ripping it. You know, this guy's not even Israeli. He's Thai. Yeah, that's great. Why is that
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great? Can I just take a moment? This is a woman. She's probably five foot one. She's petite. She's
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got the glasses. She happens to be Asian, which is interesting because one of the pictures she's
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ripping down is of a guy who's Thai. She doesn't give a shit. She doesn't care. But you know what?
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Not all Nazis, not all Hamas supporters, terror supporters or sympathizers walk around with tiki
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torches in Charlottesville. Some bigots are petite little Asian women who don't give a shit about
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kidnapped Israelis and they have sweet little voices and cute little haircuts and they're on
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campus at respected universities and employers. You better listen up. You better pay attention
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because these losers are applying to a job near you. And if you're not paying attention to stop
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anti-Semitism on X and other groups like them who are outing these people by name, you are liable to
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hire one of these people and seat them next to a Jewish person inside your company. Good luck.
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It's amazing. Time after time, we are seeing women, women who are among those most triggered by the
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signs of missing hostages, of young babies, of young kids. What has happened to these young women?
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This one's on the cusp of girlhood. Where's her empathy? What is in the heads of these young people?
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Watch here as an educator from Stony Brook's Center for Inclusive Education. All right. Center for
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Inclusive Education named Callan Zimmerman. She wants us to call her they. It's a no, Callan.
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You guys are so fucking lame. You are fucking lame. Look what you're doing. Go colonize
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somewhere else. What a shame. Shame on you. Shame on you. Free Palestine.
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Go away. You guys are so fucking lame. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.
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Oh, Callan. Any idea what they do to people who call themselves they in Gaza? According to her now
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deleted bio, Callan Zimmerman explores, quote, intricacies of material culture and queer experience
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as fashion freak, educator and maker. She calls herself a maker. Of course, this is just the tip
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of the iceberg. Seems our friends in law enforcement across the pond are even bowing to or part of the
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teardown mob. Look at this. Met police in the UK spotted removing images of the missing. According to
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the Express newspaper, they are removing the posters in order to, quote, reduce tensions. Are you kidding
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me? Can you imagine any other time when police would remove missing persons posters? What? We have to be
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upset because the lunatics get triggered by what Hamas did. They don't like evidence of it on the wall.
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They want it ignored. And therefore, the police needs to tear down the posters of the missing. What?
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Look, the only good news, the only good news to come out of this mess in the Middle East
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is that domestically we are witnessing the collapse of wokeism. It's happening real time all around us.
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The woke left has been exposed in spectacular fashion as a complete and total fraud. The very
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people who harassed us for years about our speech by demanding jobs be taken, SAT scores be thrown out,
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businesses be shut down for virtually any imagined offense that allegedly dehumanized a minority
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have all gone silent on the open threats and attacks on Jews. They claimed that hate speech
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should be banned, even rendered unconstitutional because they said it's violent. They claimed that
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they needed their own safe spaces where they would be centered and not subjected to triggering ideas and
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arguments. They told us intent to harm or intent to offend did not matter. All that mattered was the
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effect of the effect of one's words and effect alone would determine whether one's career, academic record
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or ability to function in polite society could continue. Now, with Jew hatred, actual Jew hatred and
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scorn and threats as explicit as kill the Jews all over college campuses, they say
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absolutely nothing. The BLM crowd, Ibram X. Kendi, Ta-Nehisi Coates, not only fail to condemn these behaviors,
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many in this woke crowd have participated in them and celebrated the Hamas atrocities against Israel.
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University presidents allow the Jew hatred to be spewed on the campus quad.
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Jewish students are being assaulted, scared, encircled and harassed, threatened, forced to stay inside so
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that they can live. And these sanctimonious safe space warriors are too chicken shit to lift a finger
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to protect them. Instead, these same universities that canceled professors for challenging college dogma
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about race or gender are now suddenly trying to restyle themselves as free speech warriors.
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We would never punish students for their controversial opinions. That's not who we are.
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Even if those opinions happen to be, hey, hey, ho, ho, the Jews on campus have got to go.
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They've given up the game. They never meant any of it. It was all a ruse to gain control over the rest of us,
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over the job market, over the politicians, over corporate America that does the hiring.
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And now we see these are not good-hearted, well-meaning souls embracing the struggle of the minority.
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They are grifters, frauds, liars and entitled brats. They have been exposed and they will suffer.
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Many of us knew who they were before this, but for those that did not, it's over. Any tolerance of
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these woke warriors will soon be just a distant memory. They have proven themselves to be dastardly.
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They are dishonest and they have revealed themselves as truly dangerous. Joining me now,
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no better person to discuss it, author of the brand new book, The House of Love and Death,
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Andrew Klavan. He's also host of The Andrew Klavan Show. Andrew, welcome back. So what
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do you think of my optimistic glimmers in the midst of this mess?
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Well, I hope you're right. I hope you're right. I'm a little bit cynical about it. I'm a little bit
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cynical whether this will actually wake people up. One of the things that has blurred our consciousness
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over these last 50 and 60 years as the left has taken over our culture and taken over our media
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and spewed their ideas into the atmosphere is the idea that the great awakening of the Holocaust,
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the great evil that arose up in the destruction of European Jewry was somehow applied to all of us.
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It was othering. It was bigotry. It was racism. All of those things are true, but it was also
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Jew hatred, which is unique. Jew hatred is unique in Western culture and maybe unique in the entire
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world because the Jews are unique. And a Jew is not unique. This Jew or that Jew is just the same
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as everybody else. But the Jewish people have a unique role in our culture. And this is true whether
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you believe in God or not. The idea of God, the structure of God is part of the structure of the
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human consciousness. We all have God inside us whether we believe in him or not. We all have a place
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where he lives. And in the West, that place was created by, nurtured by, and fashioned by the
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Jewish people. And the history of the Jewish people has passed down to us through the Bible
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and has spread to all of us through Jesus's life and death and resurrection. And so we all are Jews
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at some level. And the one thing about our relationship with God is we don't like him.
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This is a human universal. God requires something of us that we don't want to give up,
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our egos. He requires our pleasures. He asks us to be something better than we are. He asks us to be
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what we were made to be. And we just don't like it. People come up with a million reasons why people
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don't like the Jews. Oh, they're successful. But in Russia, they weren't successful and they
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persecuted them there. They say, oh, they're off to themselves. But in Germany, they weren't off to
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themselves. All they wanted to do was assimilate. Now they say, well, it's Israel. Then they've taken over
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Israel. And if you look at Israel, it's the size of a shoebox in a continent, the size of the United States.
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It is not the reason these people have problems. And yet it's the only thing they can focus on,
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the hatred of them. Jew hatred is a hatred of God. And again, this is true whether you believe
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in God or not, because he lives inside you, whether you like him or not, and whether you believe in him
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or not. And I think that until we get rid of and actually effectively speak back to our materialist
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culture, a culture that tells us we are only stuff, we are just material, we can save ourselves with
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material, we can take pills to make us happy, we can cut up our bodies if we don't like our gender,
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we can, you know, fix everything in an operating room or in a pharmacy. Until we get rid of that
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culture and start to understand that, no, you know, our bodies are a reference to something higher than
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themselves. Jew hatred is going to be with us and it's going to reoccur wherever evil rises.
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The thing about Jew hatred is it's the devil's flagpole. It doesn't care whether you're right or left,
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it doesn't care whether you're Democrat, Republican, doesn't care whether you're black or white.
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Whenever you see it, you know that evil is afoot. And some people like to say that the Jews are the
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canary in the coal mine saying they're the first to go. And that's also true. But the reason it's
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true is it's because it's the sign that evil has risen. I have to tell you, Megan, eight, nine months
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ago, I'm talking to my wife about what they call gender affirming care, which is this grave, grave
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wickedness of butchering the bodies of children in order to turn them into costumes of the opposite sex.
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And I said, you know, when something like this happens and when the New York Times approves of
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it and the elites approve of it and our, you know, elite spokesmen and government approves of it,
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Jew hatred is the next thing you're going to see. The killing of Jews is going to be the next thing
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you're going to see. And the reaction to this atrocity in Israel is the fruition of that prediction.
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You know, you were pointing out that these people are cowards, which is certainly true.
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They walk around masked, but they're double cowards because they're tearing down pictures of the truth.
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These people were kidnapped. They're being held hostages. If you really support them, you should
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be saying, hooray, they're hostages. Some people are actually saying that. But the people who are
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tearing them down know that this is evil. They can't not only don't want to show their faces, they can't
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face what they're supporting. They can't even face what they're saying. So I'm a little bit concerned
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that this will not go away without an absolute catastrophe of wickedness and violence to wake
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us up. I always said, Megan, even as a little kid, I used to say this is a generation of holiday
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Jews. And what I meant by that was the Holocaust was a wake-up call. It shamed everybody. It shamed
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people. It forced them to look in the mirror and see that anti-Semitism in themselves, that Jew
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hatred in themselves. And for 50 years, the Jews were sacrosanct and you couldn't touch them.
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Now that's faded away. A generation that doesn't remember, a generation that thinks that the
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Holocaust is a Steven Spielberg movie where everything turns out all right. The people who
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think that Trump is literally Hitler without even knowing what Hitler means, those people have
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forgotten and they're right out there again, chanting, kill the Jews. And so, look, I hope
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there's a way through. God willing, there's a way through. I think that I have seen things turn
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around before, but right now we're looking at some serious darkness. And anybody, anybody who finds
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himself on the side of people who burn babies and put them in ovens and, you know, rape women on the
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bodies of their dead loved ones, you know, anyone who finds themselves supporting that is past the
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point, I think, where they're going to look in the mirror and say, oh, I've done something terribly
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I agree with you. They're not salvageable. They're not salvageable. But we have to,
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in the words of whatever infamous movie line, we have to forge on without them. That's what's
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awesome about what's happening on the campuses. They're exposing themselves. The Jew hatred was
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there. You foresaw it. I didn't know it was at this level, but it's better that we know. I mean,
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I have a lot of Jewish friends. I'm sure they don't like it getting ginned up, right? Because then
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they're more in danger today than they were yesterday. But net net, it's better to know
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if the person sitting next to you in the cubicle or in the study hall or in your kid's study hall or
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in your restaurant or your job is a Jew hater. I want to know even as a non Jew. So number one,
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there's been exposure. So that's good. Now we can knowledge is power. And number two,
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the woke warriors are having a very bad month, a very bad month. And I really think it's going to
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into a bad year, into the end of their movement. They've been exposed as frauds. Andrew, how can
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anybody take seriously these, you know, BLM after this, after they didn't condemn what happened to
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they're supposed to fight for minorities that they they fight for the queer minorities and the trans
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minorities. Why not the Jewish minority? Jews are 2% of Americans. What's what's wrong with them?
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Why wouldn't you fight for them? This is the same group that it's been talked about many times.
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We've had Brett Weinstein on the show many times, but it I've got to go back to what happened at
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Evergreen College in Washington state, which was sort of, it wasn't the beginning of wokeism,
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but it was one of the most stark examples we got of what was happening on college campuses
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because of this woke mind virus. These students were so angry. Quick reminder for the audience
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at this liberal arts college out in Washington state, because they used to have a sick out once
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a year where the black students voluntarily did not come to campus to prove this is what life would
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be like for without us. And it was supposed to be a kumbaya moment when they came back.
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Then one year they said, you know what? We're coming anyway. You whites, you stay home. You stay
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home this year. And Brett Weinstein, a professor at the time said, now that's might be making some
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people feel uncomfortable. Can't really tell the white students not to come. It's one thing if
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they choose, but yeah, forcing it. No, he lost his job. They terrorized him. Protests, campus security
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said, we can't keep you safe. And just to take you back to that, because he said, don't force whites to
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stay home. That's what he said. He was fighting back against racism, against whites. All hell broke loose
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on that campus. Just keep this in mind. As you understand, these same groups of students now, it's not
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exactly the same people, are like, ah, Hamas. Yeah, it's resistance. What they did was, it was resistance
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with all the beheadings and the murders of civilians. Murders. But words saying don't force whites to stay
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home, you're off. You're out. You're the devil. Here's what happened on Evergreen Campus, just to remind
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our audience in Sot 1. Well, whatever Sot you guys numbered it.
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Ho, ho, these racist teachers have got to go. Hey, hey, ho, ho, these racist teachers have got to go.
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Fuck you and fuck the police. That's how white bitch works. Whiteness is the most violent
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fucking system to ever breathe. Somebody's talking if you are not listening. In your head, if you're
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thinking of a response while somebody is talking, that is not listening. It's not an accident at all
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of our administration is white. Right. It's not an accident. That shit is systematic as fuck.
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The thing is that my ancestors were slaves and your ancestors were not. Your ancestors came here
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of free choice and decided to bring along my people of their, not of their own free will to work and
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build this country. Okay. And so I'm just letting you know that slavery still has repercussions in
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society today. And that is what we're here about. Those repercussions. It doesn't go away. It's not
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over. I'll give you one more standby. I'll give you one more students confronting Brett on campus.
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There is a difference between debate and dialectic. Wait a second. No, it is. Debate means you are
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trying to win. Dialectic means you are using disagreement to discover what is true. I am not
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interested in debate. I'm interested only in dialectic, which does mean I listen to you and
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you listen to me. You don't care what you want to speak on. This is not about you. I'm talking all about him on terms of white crew. This is not a discussion. You have lost that one. Can you apologize? I did not. You don't know.
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My day of absence has been here longer than I have. I have never protested it until the idea.
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Until. Until they make white people white people white people. No.
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You don't know what you want to do. You don't know what you want to do.
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You don't know what you want to do. They did not protest. Keep your fucking ass here. No.
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That's what he did. He left the emails. First of all. We got the procedure. We got the email.
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That's what you want. We got it. Would you like to hear the answer or not? No.
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it's unbelievable they i mean harassed him right out of his job because you know as under the terms
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i just outlined and now these groups in response to jews being threatened to the point where they
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can't leave the library free speech we love it more more discussion is better for society
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you can't shut me down that would be also i guess white supremacy it's incredible
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yeah and it's and they hate cancel culture now suddenly they loved it it was accountability
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culture and they don't want to be held accountable for what they're saying and all of this stuff all
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of this racial essentialism which is also a kind of materialism i would like to ask one of these
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people although they they haven't they can't form a thought they can't respond in any rational way but
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i would like at least somebody to ask them what good has ever come out of racial essentialism what
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what good social what social good has ever been created by racism when this guy ibram kendi started
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his his uh foundation for anti-racism which is just racism named given the opposite name why did nobody
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ever say to him how is that going to work how is racism going to solve racism how is hatred going to
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solve hatred hatred you know it's funny because other kinds of essentialism gender essentialism have
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some good qualities women and men should have separate spaces sometimes women have different functions
00:25:42.280
they have different likes and desires i can totally understand why you would have some form of
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gender essentialism which has now been banned but why would you have racial essentialism when has that
00:25:52.140
ever worked when is it what country has it made better what what social program has it produced that
00:25:57.340
worked it it never works and yet and yet the irrationality that has been inculcated in our young
00:26:03.300
people is so strong that they live in this fantasy the queers for palestine my my personal favorite
00:26:08.720
group because i have a morbid sense of humor the queers for palestine are absolutely celebrating
00:26:13.800
people who would behead them on the spot who have not only said that who have responded there to
00:26:18.240
their support by saying never will a homosexual be able to come into palestine the irrationality the
00:26:24.340
depth of the irrationality the feminists for palestine the feminists who just love they hate israel
00:26:29.420
where women have all the rights in the world but love these countries where women are second class
00:26:33.620
citizens the absoluteness of the the absolute irrationality that has been drilled into these
00:26:40.160
children's heads should have set people off before and if it sets people off now it would be a
00:26:46.320
wonderful thing it certainly has set off some of the donors especially some of the jewish donors
00:26:49.940
and maybe that kind of uh blow from the economics uh sphere will have some effect on some of these
00:26:57.260
colleges places like yale have so much money they don't really care at the at this point whether the
00:27:01.380
donors show up or not but still those are the kinds of practical things that have effects
00:27:05.580
and look you know one of the the uh attacks on the jews in america is that they're powerful well
00:27:11.840
damn right you are as you damn right they are and their talent they're powerful because they have
00:27:16.440
talent they're powerful because they have done good things for america people always say well why do
00:27:20.500
the jews have so much power in hollywood because they invented hollywood you invent an industry and
00:27:24.420
you'll have power too and i think i i start i hope they start to use that power to defend themselves
00:27:30.240
because you're right about this the the anti-semitism the jew hatred is baked into all this stuff it's
00:27:36.940
baked into dei it's baked into all forms of equity because it means that you have to make the best less
00:27:43.200
and look jewish people succeed in the world for the simple reason that they emphasize family and
00:27:49.380
education anyone any group of people who emphasizes family and education is going to get ahead and do
00:27:54.280
well you know that's that's the simple truth that's why jews do well in the in america
00:27:58.600
but if you don't want to do that if you want to somehow magic equity out of the ground if you want
00:28:04.340
to somehow ignore the damage that left leftist policies have done for instance in the black
00:28:09.600
community and just erase that then you've got to bring the top down and that means hating jews as
00:28:14.100
well all of this stuff all of this stuff points to jew hatred it always does it's an evil system you
00:28:19.860
know the guy who's right about this is david horowitz who's obsessed with it who points out absolutely
00:28:25.480
rightly that all of these causes are actually just leftism in disguise feminism gay rights you know
00:28:32.780
uh black rights all of it none of it matters if you if you betray them a black man clarence thomas who
00:28:39.560
speaks up against leftism is the biggest villain they've got a gay man who speaks up against leftism
00:28:44.840
he's no longer a gay guy he's hated jews anybody who speaks up against leftism it's all about the power
00:28:51.300
it's all about the materialism it's all about collecting power in one place so that the human
00:28:55.920
mind can magically bring about fair and equal society that's never existed on earth before
00:29:01.260
the idea that freedom individual freedom is what raises raises us up which is a strictly western
00:29:08.640
and now judeo-christian idea is the enemy that's what they're after they do not want you to be making
00:29:14.360
decisions for yourself they haven't wanted that since dewey and woodrow wilson they've been saying it out
00:29:19.500
loud that you don't need freedom what you need is a job what you need is the charity that our
00:29:24.440
government gives you all of these things are a mask for that they're all a mask for uh the power
00:29:29.760
hungry left which believes that with enough power it can create paradise and constantly uh produces hell
00:29:36.220
instead so you know i i hope you're right megan you're right that they're exposed you're right that
00:29:41.500
some people are going to see the exposure let's just hope that the people who see the exposure are
00:29:45.340
powerful enough well-placed enough and courageous enough to fight back against it because that's
00:29:49.740
the only thing that's going to work they are not going to give this up by themselves because they
00:29:53.260
don't see themselves anymore because they're irrational so it's going to take force to get
00:29:57.620
them to do it i hope it's economic force i hope it's legal force i hope it's government force
00:30:01.020
but if that doesn't happen these guys are never going to stop i i just think they may not be as explicit
00:30:08.500
as some of these jewish donors have been to the big universities but quietly they are going to start
00:30:15.280
realizing and acting upon the realization that wokeism is dangerous it you know it's the old first
00:30:22.500
they came for the jews they're going to come for everyone they're going to get this woke mob is going
00:30:27.700
to come for everyone they only see life in terms of oppressor versus oppressed and what makes you an
00:30:34.440
oppressor is usually beyond your control you you happen to have white skin you happen to be israeli
00:30:39.680
you happen to be a jewish person whatever we could go down the list but um the people are starting to
00:30:44.840
get it it's just too obvious obvious for them not given the hysterics we've witnessed it's right on the
00:30:52.140
heels of three years of hysterics and three years is you know being charitable i'm just talking about
00:30:57.860
post george floyd how things have exploded they were woke and annoying prior to that but it's just
00:31:03.280
gotten out of hand over the past three years or so you know i'm thinking about it today andrew because
00:31:08.660
and i know this one must be personal to you because we we both know you sent a wonderful son named
00:31:13.860
spencer cleveland to yale and um he's brilliant but he's brilliant because of you and because of him
00:31:20.740
not because of yale anyway um so spencer went to yale and yale is at the epicenter of all this yale
00:31:27.800
harvard upenn cornell um and yale is in the news today for a couple reasons okay so i want to talk
00:31:36.220
about this this the campus newspaper but what's interesting about it is we're on it's halloween
00:31:42.580
2023 and yale was in the news a few years back same as evergreen for this big campus dust up about
00:31:50.860
halloween costumes and again like the evergreen thing it was like a i don't know if you can say
00:31:57.040
canary in the coal mine because miners were already going into the mine and dying you know it's like
00:32:01.420
it was beyond the canary phase when brett weinstein had that thing on evergreen and when this happened
00:32:06.080
at yale but it was closer to the beginning of wokeism and its tidal wave than we are now where i think
00:32:12.700
we're cresting at the end of this wave and um yale just this week our last week posted at first
00:32:21.180
a piece in their newspaper and the question being raised was is yalees for palestine a hate group
00:32:29.940
and a sophomore named sahar tartak posted a long piece she was writing about the atrocities
00:32:36.960
and um just how awful everything was happening over in um in the middle east writing you can imagine my
00:32:45.040
horror to find that yalees for palestine decided the murderers the murderers are absolved of their
00:32:50.560
responsibility in an instagram post that holds quote the israeli zionist regime responsible
00:32:55.640
for the unfolding violence and then she went on to say do you know who i hold responsible the men
00:33:01.360
with guns and axes who killed the children and abducted the grandmothers she's making the point
00:33:06.400
that you know hamas are terrorists and not to be condoned in any way she goes through some of the
00:33:11.740
atrocities well then they added an editor's note to sahar tartak's piece from the yale paper editor's
00:33:21.740
note correction october 25 colon this column has been edited to remove unsubstantiated claims that hamas
00:33:29.820
raped women and beheaded men my god andrew this actually got the two people who were the editor-in-chief
00:33:42.340
i think they were both either editor-in-chief or up there back in 2001-2002 of the yale daily news
00:33:48.540
to respond saying quote it defies belief that this editorial board would characterize claims of rape
00:33:56.600
during the hamas attack as unsubstantiated in the face of ample substantiation in major news outlet
00:34:02.360
and it shocks the conscience that a generation of students who implore us to believe women
00:34:06.700
who allege rape is suddenly willing to disbelieve the evidence of their own eyes when the women raped
00:34:12.420
are israeli the hypocrisy is breathtaking we hope the editorial board will take swift action to
00:34:18.680
rectify this mistake chris michael michelle and elissa friedland and you could say all the same
00:34:25.240
about the beheading too i witnessed with my own eyes they took it down on x but i saw with my own eyes
00:34:30.060
a tie man a man of tie descent who was there and he was writhing on the ground you know we're not going
00:34:37.760
to show it it's just we've had too much dark i can't show it um and they took a spade and they
00:34:43.940
hacked away at his neck trying to chop his head off uh and then we were told later that they succeeded
00:34:49.260
uh i just that's just one we could go down the list there's been many firsthand testimonials about
00:34:55.000
the beheadings but the nerve of this paper so that's yale and to go back to the the halloween
00:35:00.680
controversy again like we ignore these things at our peril like we look at this and shrug our
00:35:07.520
shoulders and say it's not really a thing don't worry about it who cares at our own peril hold on
00:35:13.160
what did i do with the page yeah nicholas christakis he was a yale professor and he reacted to this
00:35:22.040
ridiculous editorial note andrew saying are the hostage taking murder of children in their beds
00:35:28.860
burning of people alive and parading of nude captive women in the street also unsubstantiated
00:35:35.560
he gets it because he was the professor who along with his wife was involved in this 2015 controversy
00:35:42.500
about halloween costumes halloween costumes he had to fight the screaming mob that was pissed off
00:35:52.880
because he pushed back on yale mandates on what could and could not be worn and he said i think the
00:36:00.380
students of yale can be trusted to make their own decisions about halloween costumes which resulted
00:36:08.020
in a now infamous several i think two hour long exchange on campus with the students screaming at
00:36:14.920
him for his insensitivity we have some of it in saw 22. exception is because other people have rights
00:36:21.740
to not just walk away stay quiet it is your job to create a place of comfort and home for the students that live in
00:36:32.180
silliman you have not done that by sending out that email that goes against your position as master do you understand that
00:36:39.200
you know i don't agree with that then why the fuck did you accept the position
00:36:43.660
who the fuck hired you i have a different vision you should step down if that is what you think about
00:36:49.200
being a master you should step down it is not about creating an intellectual state it's about creating
00:36:54.580
a home here you are not doing that you're supposed to be our advocate you should not sleep at night
00:37:03.220
amazing disgusting they called him and these same campuses now can't bring themselves to acknowledge
00:37:13.060
beheadings rapes or even in the appropriate terms to condemn hamas's atrocities you know one of the
00:37:21.280
things i think we all have to understand about cancel culture about woke culture about his predecessor
00:37:26.660
political correctness about shout down culture which you just showed an example of is that they're
00:37:31.200
all the same thing they're all about they're all they all mean the same thing they mean shut up
00:37:35.680
don't say it you can't talk about abortion because you don't have a womb you can't talk about black
00:37:40.940
people because you're white you can't talk about this because you're that whatever it is it always
00:37:45.400
translates to shut up and the reason you have to shut up is because nothing they say is true
00:37:49.900
everything they say is a fantasy created to acquire power to create the the idea that they are somehow
00:37:57.520
going to create heaven on earth everything they say is about shutting you up that's why suddenly
00:38:03.060
cancel culture doesn't exist because they don't want to shut themselves up it's always there's always
00:38:07.700
this hypocrisy and it's worked because people don't like to be despised people don't like to lose their
00:38:13.460
footing on social media people don't want to be called down to hr and said they're not and told they're
00:38:18.360
not using the right pronoun women on the street can't even answer the question what a woman is because
00:38:23.420
they're afraid and the fear is the point the shut up is the point nothing else is the point and the
00:38:30.220
reason is they haven't got the goods they are not talking about reality they can't prove their points
00:38:35.220
you scream at someone like that which by the way i think should be an expulsion offense you should be
00:38:40.600
tossed out of school instantly for saying that you should have to sign a document saying you'll be
00:38:44.440
tossed out if you ever speak to an adult in that fashion but the whole point of it is is silence
00:38:50.640
the whole point of it is silence because otherwise they have to face themselves the same reason they
00:38:54.780
tear down the posters of kidnapped people do not show the reality the same reason they overturn uh you
00:39:01.020
know uh pictures of abortions you know throw them away and burn them because you cannot look at what it is
00:39:07.680
you're not allowed to speak the truth you're not allowed to see the truth everything is about that
00:39:12.720
and the reason we have had so much difficulty on our side the people who just want to discuss things
00:39:17.440
and talk about things that reasonable tone of voice you have your say and i have my say it's a dialectic
00:39:22.840
and all this stuff all of that is against what they want it's against what they believe the first amendment
00:39:27.680
is against what they believe everything about hate speech same thing shut up shut up shut up and it's
00:39:32.860
always for this you only tell people to shut up for the same reasons because you haven't got an argument
00:39:36.600
the only reason you don't have to censor people if you're speaking the truth you have to censor people
00:39:41.020
when they're speaking the truth and you're not and that is that is always true you know when you look
00:39:45.640
back in history when are the censors the good guys you know and on youtube they demonetize you if you
00:39:50.940
say a man can't become a woman why because a man can become a woman no because you're speaking the
00:39:55.700
truth and they don't want that to be the truth when do these people in the long run of history ever
00:40:00.960
become the good guys never and that's because the truth does will out over time it's always but it
00:40:06.100
always costs you it always costs you and it and i think that if we're not willing to pay that price
00:40:11.540
we are lost if people are not willing to take the the hits you know one of the one of the positive
00:40:16.880
things i see as you say now they're being exposed i i thought it was a positive thing when parents
00:40:22.660
started showing up at pta meetings and at school board meetings because they found out what teachers
00:40:28.740
were teaching their kids about sex and about sexuality and all the queering the kids and all
00:40:33.160
that i thought that was a wonderful thing because parents will sacrifice to protect their children
00:40:38.240
but a lot of people don't want to sacrifice if it means losing their jobs because their children
00:40:42.160
need them to have jobs they don't want to sacrifice if it means losing their social media connection
00:40:46.880
especially if they're young because that's where their self-esteem and prestige comes from
00:40:50.340
so they've made it very costly to speak the truth and that is against the american way which is
00:40:55.680
obviously a way where everybody gets to speak the truth and we argue it out and over the course of
00:41:00.240
about 10 years we come to a decision on where we want to go that's the system that's been broken
00:41:05.260
and if you're right and i hope to god you're right if you're right if this is the moment when people
00:41:10.520
start to say oh i get it we can't be silent oh i get it we have to stand up oh i get it they're
00:41:15.660
coming after me next if it's that point then it is then something good will come out of this
00:41:20.540
terrible terrible moment in israel which would be you know very close to a miracle but i've seen
00:41:26.240
them before and it can happen again i do think this is what we have to recover we have to recover
00:41:30.340
that commitment to truth everything that's going on is about a lot you know even even when you see
00:41:35.380
megan a mass shooting like the one in maine and everybody says well why didn't the police do
00:41:40.280
anything they can't do anything because there was a lie back in the 60s 70s and 80s that madness was a
00:41:46.980
social construct so we had to close down all the institutions and we're going to move everybody
00:41:50.840
into halfway houses and everything was going to be neighborhood care is going to be great
00:41:53.820
that lie is now coming home to roost as crazy people go out and shoot people
00:41:57.800
all of these lies there's death at the end of every lie megan there's death at the end of every
00:42:02.480
lie and these people have been lying and lying and lying and silencing us through one mean or means
00:42:08.560
or another and i think this if this is the turning point then that'll be a blessing that comes out of a
00:42:14.180
curse it really will because without the truth we're dead without the truth you can't be free without
00:42:18.860
the truth you can't be sane without the truth you can't live and that's the this the culture that
00:42:23.400
they've created because they are people of the lie the lie is their socialist uh dream of utopia
00:42:29.580
that's just not going to come true whether it is a turning point is up to us it's up to all of us it
00:42:36.020
must be it has to be logic reason commitment to truth and honor require it andrew clavin stays with
00:42:43.160
us for the full show today so much to get to so happy to have him back again does president biden
00:42:50.440
think the anti-israel protesters in this country are extremists what i can say is what we've been
00:42:57.580
very clear about this when it comes to anti-semitism there's no place we have to make sure that we speak
00:43:04.080
against it very loud uh and be uh and be very clear about that remember what the president decided
00:43:11.100
when the president decided to run for president is what he saw in charlottesville in 2017
00:43:16.080
welcome back to the megan kelly show my guest today is andrew clavin you see so it's very clear
00:43:22.260
that the charlottesville people with their tiki torches and statements about you will not replace
00:43:27.760
us definitely extremists easy to see but the people out there chanting only one solution and kill the
00:43:35.880
jews well it's complicated we're not going to use the extremist word for them yeah well one of the
00:43:43.280
things about the left is you know we have these extremists on the right there are extremists
00:43:46.900
everywhere our extremists are guys crazy guys when they hold a national conference like 200 of them
00:43:53.200
show up and yet these are the guys that the fbi is busy hunting down their extremists are the speaker
00:44:00.120
of the house uh the president you know their extremists are the some of the most powerful people
00:44:04.840
in the country the people spewing nonsense at the new york times which has been an insane ride
00:44:11.760
watching this the new york times after october 7th they're actually blaming the jews for being killed
00:44:17.180
these are these are the extremists of the left so they they've actually moved the overton window so
00:44:23.440
far to the left that maybe you're just an extremist for thinking that people should be free or that the
00:44:28.480
constitution was a good idea or that maybe there should be you know a conflict between the different
00:44:34.000
facets of government so that they don't get too powerful all of those things are extreme ideas
00:44:38.880
but the idea that men can magically change their sex or that you know you can abort a child five
00:44:44.580
minute five seconds before birth those are not extreme ideas so these are words again that get
00:44:50.240
thrown away thrown around simply to silence people this administration i have to say this administration
00:44:55.680
has been as wicked in that regard as i've ever seen the demonizing of parents standing up for their
00:45:02.320
children the setting the fbi on people that knocking down doors at three o'clock in the morning
00:45:07.840
because somebody staged a protest outside an abortion mill you know this this administration
00:45:13.040
has been as radical as it's possible to be and the idea of it was that they were going to put
00:45:17.560
the face of lunch bucket joe the kind of moderate old-fashioned democrat in front of it and they
00:45:23.440
were going to be able to do all these things you know obviously biden i mean kamala harris has
00:45:29.500
assured us that he's still alive which is nice to know but just barely so obviously he's not the guy
00:45:34.720
running things but whoever is running things our government these are real radicals real extremists
00:45:40.700
and the fact that the people who follow them and vote for them and support them on our college campus
00:45:45.560
campuses are shouting kill the jews and palestine uh you know must be free is not should not be
00:45:52.500
surprising they can't really call them extremists because they're them they're who they are and our
00:45:57.860
extremists are on the comment sections of right-wing web you know websites that's it sitting
00:46:02.980
sitting in their parents exactly it rich lowry was making this point in a national review article i
00:46:08.240
read today saying these alt-right extremists they're marginalized they exist but they're
00:46:14.440
marginalized they're mocked they don't have real influence they're extremists on the left they're
00:46:18.920
college professors college presidents they're in prime positions throughout the administration even
00:46:24.160
the state department had an internal struggle session with tears over us not being more supportive
00:46:29.100
of hamas and the palestinians after they launched this terror attack it's insane they have real power
00:46:36.400
and that's why she won't she won't use the e-word on any of these people because it would offend too
00:46:42.340
many of her favorites over on the left yeah and all you have to do i mean first of all if if 800 or
00:46:49.140
8 000 conservatives show up and one guy on the end of the row has a swastika that's the guy that the
00:46:54.480
press focuses on nick fuentes they talk about nick fuentes endlessly as clown who hates jews and hates
00:47:01.360
blacks you know he's somebody that most of i i know virtually everybody on the right i'm sure you
00:47:05.880
do too they hate this guy they just gives everybody a bad name but but their guys the things that their
00:47:11.560
people say the anti-whiteness which is just racism straight up i mean it is just this hatred of people
00:47:18.120
for the color of their skin this holding people responsible for the actions of the dead this is stuff
00:47:23.320
they do with them in the highest places in the halls of power and and yet and yet that's not
00:47:28.420
extremist it's been going on this has been going on for a long time you know it always made me laugh
00:47:33.240
when they called themselves the resistance they own hollywood they own the news media they own the
00:47:37.460
government they own the deep state they own the academy what were they resisting what were they
00:47:42.980
resisting they were resisting us they were resisting the little guy the normal guy and and one of the
00:47:47.520
reasons they hate they you know there are plenty of reasons to dislike donald trump but the reason
00:47:51.940
they hate him is because he speaks up for that guy he speaks up for that guy who's been told for 60
00:47:56.440
years that his country stinks his religion stinks his way of life stinks his marriage stinks this is
00:48:01.420
stuff we've been hearing from the richest most powerful people in the country who stand in front
00:48:06.140
of microphones and broadcast to millions of people and tell us or tell the ordinary guy that he stinks
00:48:11.860
trump stands up for that and there's never there's no and not just that he's an extremist that he's an
00:48:18.260
extremist that's what we've been hearing out of this administration anybody who votes for trump
00:48:21.940
or is part of maga you're an extremist an ultra but these people they don't get the word
00:48:28.280
because they're of the left all right stand by there's so much more to get to with andrew clavin
00:48:32.500
author of the house of love and death which we will get to in our next hour stand by as we
00:48:38.940
take a quick break come right back andrew clavin here the full two hours
00:48:43.280
my guest today is andrew clavin he's author of the brand new book the house of love and death
00:48:53.240
he is also the host of the andrew clavin show and if you want to hear a ton more about andrew his
00:49:00.620
writing process he's i mean that's really how he came to fame as a star writer screenwriter for lots
00:49:05.920
of big movies that you know um you can tune into my husband's podcast today doug brunt's dedicated
00:49:12.200
hosts andrew clavin he's like spending his entire day with the kelly brunt family it's an honor sir
00:49:18.380
but while i have you here can you tell us about the book it's it's fiction it's part of a mystery
00:49:23.540
series that you've been doing yes the cameron winter mystery series this one has been uh an amazon
00:49:29.260
editor pick for the month and it's got a starred review in publishers weekly i'm really i think it's one
00:49:34.400
of the best books i ever wrote and i'm really excited about the the whole series basically you
00:49:38.820
know in the 2000s i started watching all what was called the second golden age of tv and i noticed that
00:49:44.080
all it was were anti-heroes the sopranos uh breaking bad the shield one bad guy after another and the
00:49:50.720
funny thing was is i'd been writing characters like that for 10 years all through the 90s i wrote a
00:49:56.380
character in true crime it was just like that it was played by clint eastwood in the movies and i i started
00:50:02.840
to think you know okay i get this we've done this it's really interesting how do you get from being
00:50:07.620
an anti-hero back to being a hero how do you get to a form of manhood that is actually something
00:50:13.780
better than the society around you especially when the society is as dark and as uh corrupt as ours is
00:50:18.980
right now and so the cameron winter series is about a guy who's been a killer he's been a bad guy and
00:50:24.600
he's now trying to find a way back to being a good guy and uh and he's doing it in a society that's
00:50:29.920
falling apart and the house of love and death is about a family that's wiped out and he goes to
00:50:34.980
investigate this and he finds an entire community that has become corrupt it's corrupt not only
00:50:39.720
within itself it's corrupt from the top down things that the president is doing are corrupting the
00:50:44.260
society around it and and so he's a guy who's just trying to find forgiveness for what he's done in the
00:50:49.540
past and also a way forward into the future and i think it answers a lot of or at least explores a lot
00:50:55.000
of interesting questions that i think are facing men but also facing women in this moment i noticed
00:51:00.020
one of the things i've noticed about it is almost all the characters except for cameron winter are
00:51:03.760
women and that's an interesting part of it because i think he's trying to find out what it means to be
00:51:08.320
a man who can find love as well as find the truth so it's been it's been really exciting to write and
00:51:13.620
i'm really happy about the response so far the first two books in the series were usa today bestseller
00:51:18.340
and i'm depending on you megan to make this one a new york times bestseller just because i want to
00:51:22.380
see the new york times eat it yes i want to see the new york times eat it too and it's a start review
00:51:27.420
which is hard to get from publishers weekly i'm very proud of you that's excellent um my own husband
00:51:32.080
got one on his book the mysterious case of rudolph diesel which was great to promote it and actually
00:51:36.620
wound up on the new york times bestseller list as well it's a bestseller right now but you know
00:51:40.320
screw the new york times because i mean after they give you your spot that you've earned on the list
00:51:45.120
we'll really go after them but the point is they're not really the market maker that they once were
00:51:50.540
because you know you come on shows like this you go on your own show you have your own huge audience
00:51:55.100
there's just a wonderful way of reaching readers today that didn't exist even 10 years ago right
00:52:01.080
it's wonderful and it's a new world we don't need them anymore but we are facing incredible things in
00:52:07.580
the publishing industry the the idea of that you cannot any longer write a story that's about a white
00:52:14.020
person the idea that european values have to be uh denigrated you would be shocked at some of the
00:52:19.660
editorial comments i've gotten and i don't these books are not political per se they take place in
00:52:25.180
this in the world that i see and in this culture that i see but i've gotten editorial comments from
00:52:29.840
young editors like you cannot describe a character as coffee colored because uh slaves used to have to
00:52:36.840
pick coffee and you just have to cross these comments out but it's a lot of work you know you
00:52:41.700
have to spend a lot of time erasing this nonsense this woke nonsense that is just infiltrating
00:52:46.260
everything and the fact that even in this where there's a minor comment about transgenderism even
00:52:52.760
that i had to defend because i just said this is what's happening in our society i'm not making
00:52:56.720
comments about it i'm not editorializing i'm just trying to make tell stories about the world we're
00:53:01.340
actually living in instead of the world that netflix says we're living in instead of the world that the
00:53:05.720
movies tell us we're living in i want to write about the actual world we're living in and it's gotten
00:53:09.640
harder and harder so you're right megan it's wonderful it is wonderful that we now have a media
00:53:14.300
that can promote our own works and what we also need is we need review venues we need awards we need
00:53:19.760
you know all the infrastructure of culture so that they don't own every segment of the arts it's really
00:53:26.000
important yes a hundred percent that's why that's listen andrew is legitimately one of the greatest
00:53:32.020
writers we have but on top of that you want to support him support his work support his ability
00:53:36.700
to make a living doing commentary like you're hearing today and so it's all part of it that i view this as
00:53:43.040
yet another reason to support writers like you that the house of love and death i like the name
00:53:48.260
too andrew clavin it's k-l-a-v-a-n please support him and go out and buy this book and by the way we're
00:53:54.000
like a stone's throw away from the holidays so it would make a great gift as well and while you're
00:53:59.020
there get the mysterious case of rudolph diesel by doug brunt because he would also really love your
00:54:02.540
support um okay so one of the things that those people in the mysterious house house of uh or the
00:54:08.420
house of love and death might like is a little faith in their life it might have made a difference
00:54:13.000
it could have helped um you know the bad guy or those who actually got hurt and that in today's
00:54:19.560
leftist society is also something of scorn uh we saw an incredible reaction to the new house speaker
00:54:25.980
today which was it was very pitchforky i have to say it was a pitchforky reaction to the new house
00:54:33.940
speaker hold on a second i'll find his name here somewhere it's uh it's mike johnson no i'm only
00:54:40.120
kidding my team is i know his name i'm making a joke because nobody really knew who mike johnson was
00:54:45.820
before he became speaker we all know he came became speaker after this nasty house fight but he's
00:54:50.340
speaker now and um of all the things you could go after him i've heard them they've gone after him
00:54:56.240
because he backed trump's electoral challenges a lot of democrats filed those same challenges when they
00:55:01.880
didn't like the electoral results but you know when it's trump it's too insurrectiony and okay but
00:55:07.440
that's fine you can criticize him for that instead jen saki decided you know what his real problem is
00:55:13.780
that he's faithful he's a person of faith he's a christian listen to her the bible doesn't just
00:55:21.640
inform his worldview it is his worldview in fact during his first speech in his new job johnson suggested
00:55:29.100
that his election as speaker was an act of god talk about a bit of a humble brag there i would love
00:55:35.660
to know what passage in the bible told johnson to become one of the most important architects behind
00:55:41.460
trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election which passage was it god whispering in his ear to ignore
00:55:46.980
the constitution clearly envisions a country that's less democratic and less tolerant the problem with
00:55:53.140
johnson isn't at all his faith but when those beliefs encroach on the rights of others that's when it
00:55:58.440
becomes dangerous she's so bad i have to say like her delivery is terrible her attempt to be snarky
00:56:06.260
fails she's just too wooden she can't pull it off she's trying to i don't know if she wrote that script
00:56:11.220
or somebody wrote it for her but she doesn't deliver it like it's her own it was a fail on many levels like
00:56:16.240
her show which has no viewers whatsoever i think it's just you and me andrew we're the only ones and
00:56:22.500
now my audience has gotten some exposure but they're not going over to tune in jen sorry uh the
00:56:27.880
nerve the nerve the oh was it god whispering in his ear to be to be an insurrectionist uh what do you
00:56:34.820
make of it well first of all i have to say like everybody when they appointed mike johnson speaker i
00:56:40.580
was like who the hell is this guy and i started looking him up while i'm researching him i suddenly
00:56:44.680
realized that at the first trump prayer breakfast i was sitting next to him and we had what must have
00:56:50.740
been a 20 minute conversation he had just been elected to congress and i just making conversation
00:56:55.920
at the breakfast table i said you know so what do you think he can accomplish we had a very long
00:57:00.560
conversation he was earnest he was intelligent he understood the workings of the house which is the
00:57:05.700
most important thing about the speaker by the way it's really not his opinions his personal opinions
00:57:09.700
because he only has one vote like everybody it's really whether he understands that how to
00:57:13.680
maneuver through the house politics which is very difficult to do and he really seemed to know that
00:57:19.200
stuff so i was very impressed with him the fact that they hate his religion is uproariously funny
00:57:25.160
i mean the new york times wrote a story about it and then published readers letters about it and if
00:57:32.100
you ever read the letters in the new york times they are no more allowed to disagree with leftism than
00:57:36.900
the writers in the new york times so you only get letters on one side it's not a selection of people
00:57:41.180
who say you know i kind of like his faith no it's just like this is the end of the world that he
00:57:44.980
believes in god this this is comical but it's so normal on the left you know when when mel gibson
00:57:52.420
brought out the passion of the christ do you remember the absolute firestorm about the violence
00:57:57.620
oh it's so violent it's so terrible so when has a movie ever been condemned for violence on the left
00:58:03.380
when is it ever what bloodshed has ever been condemned before when the c.s lewis narnia movies came
00:58:09.900
out about uh you know the lion the witch in the wardrobe the new yorker so help me god off one
00:58:15.020
reference in one of c.s lewis's letters about whipping which is a typical british sexual fascination
00:58:20.400
they called him a sexual pervert i actually wrote to the guy and said when on earth have you ever
00:58:25.500
called anybody anywhere a sexual pervert before no matter what they were doing never suddenly these
00:58:31.360
things become bad if you believe in god suddenly i mean god is the enemy of all they believe in
00:58:36.060
because he says that we're not an accident life is not an accident our conscience is real
00:58:41.360
our our bodies are real our gender is real all of those things that they are trying to destroy
00:58:46.680
and we cannot finally decide with alone how to make the world a better place it just doesn't work
00:58:53.440
that way and so they just absolutely panic he's a man of faith he's absolutely right that the bible
00:58:59.440
does say that the authorities are appointed uh by god and chosen by god he doesn't say that the
00:59:04.760
authorities are always right or that you can't stand up to the authorities just about everybody
00:59:08.700
in the bible in the new testament was killed by the authorities because they stood up for them
00:59:13.180
because they stood up for their faith so he knows all that but he is also pointing out that the
00:59:18.040
the ideas that fashioned american society and british society are what they call politely
00:59:24.700
judeo-christian ideas they are ideas that come to us through the gospels by way of the old
00:59:30.540
testament and again as we started at the beginning that's why people hate the jews so much because
00:59:35.220
those ideas are ideas that constrain you they constrain your ego they constrain your powers and
00:59:41.680
they're the ideas that created this notion that people are individuals who should be free and when when
00:59:49.440
the founders said that we are all created equal they didn't obviously mean that i was as good a
00:59:54.520
basketball player as lebron james i wish they didn't mean that what they did mean is that we are all
00:59:59.540
equal in our right to make our own lives to make decisions about our own lives and our right not to
01:00:04.240
be uh governed over by random people who think that they know better than we do and so that's what
01:00:09.720
you know mike johnson believes that's that's basically his belief system and he believes he's
01:00:14.000
backed up by the bible and the fact is without some kind of faith in uh you know that that the human
01:00:20.120
being is not an accident you don't have that faith and freedom that's why the left is so glad to get
01:00:25.940
rid of it that's why the left is so glad to tell us to shut up because they don't have that faith
01:00:29.780
because everything about leftism is materialist and so i i think it is kind of comical the the panic
01:00:36.440
that god creates on the left the minute they hear about him the minute they think that he might have
01:00:41.420
slipped into some of our entertainment the the minute they think that oh my goodness somebody might
01:00:46.160
actually have faith and not just be pounding the bible but might actually believe they just throw
01:00:51.300
their aprons over the face and run screaming out of the kitchen it is it's wonderful to behold and i
01:00:56.000
love the fact that he's giving it to him both barrels and i'm impressed so far i hope he goes
01:01:00.520
forward you know he's not going to give look the speaker of the house no matter what people on the
01:01:04.720
far right think that he can't give the right everything they want he's got a maneuver he's got
01:01:08.800
a compromise he's got a deal that's what the job entails but the fact that he's speaking so clearly
01:01:14.080
about who he is and what he believes and where he comes from and where his values come from
01:01:17.240
very encouraging yeah you raise a good point though i mean his big thing is to understand how
01:01:21.780
the house operates how to count and how to raise money i mean his vote isn't worth anymore just
01:01:28.260
because he's speaker but she decides to use his nomination by his new position i should say
01:01:34.020
it as an excuse to go back through oh his position in the early 2000s in which he opposed same-sex
01:01:41.560
marriage as did barack obama as did joe biden the boss that she works for i mean in the early 2000s
01:01:48.620
are we really going to go back that far she's mad that he worked for alliance defending freedom
01:01:53.140
that's the one of the greatest legal groups we have in america right now she points out oh it was
01:01:58.260
designated a hate group by the southern poverty law center so it was ben carson literally that that's
01:02:03.380
what they said have been ben carson too is he he's also he hates it okay whatever they've been
01:02:09.280
discredited by everybody nobody cites the southern poverty law center other than jen soggy for you and
01:02:14.200
for me her two viewers um and we confess we didn't actually watch the show and we only watched the one
01:02:18.360
soundbite and that's why she's failing um in any event there's nothing wrong with this guy's christian
01:02:22.880
faith and she would never do this to a muslim a muslim who said you know i believe in the quran
01:02:27.080
that's what i follow i think she'd go through the quran and start to pour apart what it actually says
01:02:31.900
and whether this person is an extremist and what strain of islam is this person following right
01:02:36.840
is it more fundamentalist as she uses or is it more of an islamist who actually does believe in
01:02:42.880
potentially honor killings i await jen soggy's piece on that as she takes a deep dive into rashida
01:02:48.740
talib you know the atlantic monthly wrote a piece saying that some distant relative of his own slaves
01:02:53.900
or something which is probably true of every single person on earth but but did you know this did you
01:02:58.000
know that he has an adopted son who's black no i didn't know that i i i had no idea i read it in a
01:03:04.960
column in the wall street journal this morning no one has mentioned it no one has said a word
01:03:09.700
about it it is just amazing the atlantic runs a piece saying that some distant relative of his
01:03:15.360
held slaves but no one has mentioned that he hasn't adopted kid who's black he made a comment
01:03:21.460
about the systemic or he called the systematic racism in the country and i thought well where does
01:03:26.200
that come from well it comes from his experience of having a black black kid but the fact that
01:03:30.940
this has been suppressed and nobody's talking about it i love it i just you can't make this
01:03:35.460
stuff up you cannot make the dishonesty and the hypocrisy of the leftist media up because they
01:03:41.220
just are they're like satires of themselves they're like the babble on d of themselves just the fact that
01:03:46.880
he's not even putting that out there and touting it in his interviews it inures to his benefit because
01:03:51.880
what you see is now all these hollywood celebrities who want to be on the cover of people magazine or who want
01:03:57.120
to earn i don't know snaps or thumbs up or viewers you're putting their kids up all three of my kids
01:04:02.860
are trans here's a picture of them here look at my two trans kids and i'm ambiguous i'm queer i'm
01:04:08.800
whatever right they all they would and they would never never adopt a child of color and not make sure
01:04:16.840
you knew about it ever ever right so it's like good for him i remember working with my lawyer who i love
01:04:22.820
he's a killer he's amazing brian friedman for three years before i found out that he too has
01:04:28.620
a black son i did not know he they don't people who just are loving kind and non-bigoted don't run
01:04:35.460
around telling you about the non-bigoted things they've done right it's only these crazy agenda
01:04:42.440
driven leftists who want you to know i've got a trans kid and i've got a black kid and i've got a
01:04:47.860
kid in a wheelchair and i've been a i'm becoming a lesbian soon well they they've abandoned this idea
01:04:55.220
of color blindness which is the only good idea i mean it's the only way to do it is to just not do
01:04:59.380
race you know we there may be differences between us who cares i mean at this point really who cares
01:05:04.020
and i just think that's the only answer to this is i just you just don't do race it's like it's like
01:05:09.700
whatever your feelings the left wants to condemn you for some inner feeling you have but it's like
01:05:14.020
adultery you don't do adultery you may lust after somebody you may have a moment where you think that
01:05:17.780
would be a good idea but you don't do it you don't do it because it's wrong and it's the same
01:05:21.060
thing with race you don't do race and i don't understand how that perfectly good idea that
01:05:26.020
perfectly manageable idea which only makes things better and actually can has can produce social
01:05:30.900
good why that's the one idea you're no longer allowed to have but but you're absolutely right
01:05:35.620
by the way it's it's to his credit that he hasn't talked about it but it also is is absolutely
01:05:41.300
damning of the left that they don't report it yeah exactly right um okay so speaking of people
01:05:47.300
who are on the leftist train we talked earlier about how the blm activists have absolutely
01:05:53.860
the worst representation they've made very clear that they're very pro hamas that they are very
01:05:58.820
anti-family um that they're very pro destruction of the nuclear family and any sort of hetero patriarchy
01:06:05.780
normality and then you've got the trans activists who are the absolute worst the the absolute worst
01:06:11.780
bullies a reminder that these are men these are 99 of these are men posing as women who are trying
01:06:18.020
to tell women that they have a right to come into our spaces remember that when you're fighting these
01:06:22.180
fights ladies and gentlemen there are men posing as women telling women they have a right to come
01:06:27.460
into our spaces they don't and we need to fight i've said it many times i say it now more than ever
01:06:33.940
so there was this man running around in ridiculous outfits which for him are a costume for an actual
01:06:41.380
woman we might call them clothing um and trying to insist that wait staff and i will note for the
01:06:49.620
leftists uh who pay attention to this clip almost all of them in this clip happen to be people of color
01:06:55.620
they appear to be immigrants some of them have accents this is a white man who the left is supposed to
01:07:00.900
hate but as soon as he says he's a white woman they hate him a little less and then they hate him not
01:07:05.940
at all because he's just trans he's a fake woman they love them more than anything and trying to
01:07:11.140
embarrass them for not referring to him with his deep voice as she or her look at this looks like he's
01:07:21.540
having a nice piece she she her yeah it's okay are you she her pronouns i'm not sir oh yeah like it it's
01:07:29.940
like a knife in the heart the sweet water starts okay not i mean i'm so sorry i apologize i was
01:07:36.980
wondering if there's a manager i could talk to about something that happened yeah i i was called sir
01:07:41.780
okay it just really sucks every time it happens did you call me sir hey i just want to tell you that
01:07:50.420
call me sir oh thank you so much no oh i'm yeah thank you i'm not a sir i feel like i need to tell him
01:08:01.940
i know you didn't mean it but i'm not a sir i'm not sir
01:08:16.820
andrew i can't i'm sorry i was like if you want to if you want to actually try so hard to look like
01:08:23.060
me like a woman that you actually managed to fool me into thinking you are a woman and i mistakenly call
01:08:28.740
you she her or man because you fooled me fine you got one on me you did you're not fooling anyone
01:08:35.700
sir you're not fooling anyone and we don't have the obligation to go along with your delusion
01:08:41.700
it's it's the same thing right it's shut up shut up again you know you're you absolutely have to be
01:08:46.420
able to uh keep people silent if you're going to live in a fantasy i i have to say the thing about
01:08:51.540
this fantasy i wish you know you don't want to pick on actual transgender people i think there are a few
01:08:57.140
of them who are actual uh people just in the same way i don't want to pick on gay people but gay
01:09:01.460
activists and transgender activists are some of the worst people in the country they are really
01:09:06.340
offensive and they will travel miles and miles to hunt down anybody who wants to tell the truth
01:09:11.620
or who opposes them and i just think that especially with this which is it's so and that the hatred of
01:09:18.980
women that is baked into this is so deep and so offensive that i think i think it is important to
01:09:26.820
speak out about it even though you may risk offending some people who are actually innocents
01:09:31.220
because i think you know to be a woman is a primary thing when people say well define a woman it's hard
01:09:37.940
to do just like it's hard to define good and evil because it's a primary thing you know it when you
01:09:42.260
see it i know what a woman is with every fiber of my being you don't have to i don't have to be able
01:09:46.660
to define it it's axiomatic that some people are men and some people are women some people are gay men
01:09:51.780
maybe some people are gay women but they're still men and women and it's an important difference and not
01:09:55.460
only is an important difference it is the difference between people that is the only
01:09:58.740
central difference between people and the the desperate attempts to eradicate one sex because
01:10:04.900
you don't see it going in the other direction all of the hatred focused on men is really focused on
01:10:11.060
getting men to act less like men so women so women can act more like men it's all about eliminating
01:10:17.140
women and the i think people hate women because women ground them to the earth they create consequences
01:10:23.780
for having sex they create emotional consequences for the body they they do all the things that
01:10:29.300
make life actually worth living but also more uh you know cause you to be more responsible require
01:10:35.220
you to be more responsible to life and to your actions and i think they're just trying to eradicate
01:10:40.180
an entire gender and i don't think i think that speaking up about it and not letting people
01:10:44.980
like richard aka rachel levine you know demand that we lie with every word that we speak demand that
01:10:52.100
we use the pronoun that he wants us to use i think it's important you know i i know that there's a
01:10:57.220
risk of being mean but sometimes the truth is mean you know sometimes you just got to tell the truth
01:11:01.700
and guys like this are just a total pain in the neck you know they really have to be you know it's
01:11:06.180
amazing so first of all this guy obviously brought like a second person there to film all encounters
01:11:11.460
with waitstaff because it's somebody else doing the filming from the look of it and so he was trying
01:11:15.620
to lay a trap to get these unknowing waitstaff and then for the listening audience he's wearing
01:11:21.620
absolutely absurd costumes like a little tied shirt tied right underneath you know that where a woman's
01:11:29.300
breasts would be um exposed midriff which is very obviously all male i mean midriff on a male looks
01:11:35.700
very different than that of a female and it's so like he's trying to dress like a woman but everything
01:11:40.980
about him oozes male i won't say manly but but male you can tell and and then his voice is very
01:11:49.300
very male it's very obvious that it's a man so this this made me think of a piece that kelly j keen
01:11:55.300
recommended to me uh it's it's entitled pronouns are real hypnol and it was put on medium and it was
01:12:02.020
taken down it was put back up it's taken down again it's like hard to get this piece absurdly and
01:12:07.300
everyone should google it and read it do it i love i listen i love voice dream what i do is i google
01:12:13.220
these pieces if they're long i download them to voice dream you can either save it for later you can
01:12:17.460
just hit play and then the voice dream will read you the article you can do your makeup you can drive
01:12:21.940
your car whatever you read you your favorite articles that you might not want to waste your
01:12:25.780
i don't know i get dry eye so i don't want to read too much um so pronouns are hypnol gets to
01:12:32.260
this very point andrew which is it's like if they force you to say while you're looking at this man
01:12:39.060
you know is a man could see his man belly you can see his man limbs you can hear his man voice and
01:12:47.220
these waiters aren't thinking it's a man it's a woman it's a man it's a woman i'm sure they can see
01:12:51.860
he's trying to dress like a woman i'm sure as a wait staff you're probably wanting to please the
01:12:56.740
customer but they know they know on an instinctual level it's a man and so the more he makes them
01:13:05.780
take the rehypnol of it's she her it's she her it's she her it's meant to dull you it's meant to
01:13:13.620
sort of deaden those senses so that you you will affirm their delusion you do lose the concept of two
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sexes of what womanhood is even though as you so accurately point out you know it when you see it
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there's some you may not be able to find the words to define it but you know it you know it when you
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see it and it's important to know it yeah this is this is what the soviets used to call double think
01:13:37.220
because you have to you had to lie you had to believe the lie but all the while you knew that
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the lie was a lie and that you know that was how they defended their system when the economy was
01:13:46.260
collapsing they would say oh everything's going great the person saying this knew it was a lie but he had to
01:13:49.940
believe the lie and he had to speak the lie and that's that's very damaging it's very psychologically
01:13:54.740
damaging you know it's damaging when you have to say that you know crime in the black community is
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the same as crime as the white community it's not you know it's it's just not and it's the same way
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it's very damaging to say that i have to look at this guy and call him a woman you know health and
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human services rachel levine they've now decreed that you have to use uh the wrong pronoun it is forcing
01:14:15.940
people it is a clear violation of the first amendment to force people to lie because the
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government thinks a lie is virtuous and i really believe this this has been my hobby horse for so
01:14:25.940
long lies are never virtuous there's no such thing as a virtuous lie there's such a thing as a white lie
01:14:31.220
where you tell people they look nice when maybe they don't but other than that i think that that has
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been that principle has been used to just expand this idea that somehow telling the truth is a cruel thing
01:14:42.500
to do telling the truth is a racist thing to do you how can you fix anything how can you address
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anything how can you live as an honest human being of integrity without being able to say oh
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i see a man in front of me i'm gonna call him sir that's what that's what he is you know it it really
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is it's it's funny because it's monty python it's people dressing up in funny costumes and walking
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around pretending there's something they're not there's something comical about that but underlying
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there's something that's not so funny which is this idea that in order to be virtuous you have
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to lie and that to me is what what culture is that to me what that to me is what political correctness
01:15:19.060
is and all of it is meant to silence you because leftism doesn't work and if you can speak then
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you're going to say hey you know what you know you guys turned san francisco into a hellhole it was a
01:15:28.100
beautiful city and now it stinks and they just don't want you to do that because that means they'll get
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voted out of office and nobody wants that to happen it really is the emperor's clothes that's what it is
01:15:37.140
it's the emperor's clothes that you're not supposed to say the emperor's not wearing any clothes because
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then everyone will see it what's going to happen now as a result of guys like this is service
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personnel will just get rid of ma'am and sir they will just will try not to use a term of respect
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when serving you your meal or taking your order and so it's just a tiny erosion of the day-to-day
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politeness that we used to show to each other just a tiny erosion i don't get to get called ma'am
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anymore madam what have you you don't get to call it be called sir because of that guy because he's
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gone in there and harassed the waitstaff for the way that they referred to him which was accurate
01:16:15.940
the way they they did and i was thinking about this recently because there was something somebody
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wrote a piece i can't remember who it was but they were writing a piece about um travis kelsey and
01:16:27.700
the way he opened the door for taylor swift everybody's obsessed with these two and it was just like
01:16:33.060
a gentlemanly thing to do and it occurred to me that yes but why is this being written about
01:16:39.860
because the feminists have scrubbed all that chivalry from acceptable behavior between men and
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women now now it's an offense for a man to hold the door the actual door or the car door it's an offense
01:16:53.140
for him to as my husband does and i love it when we're walking on the sidewalk to gently
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sort of get me to the inside and he walks closest to the traffic god forbid something were to happen
01:17:04.180
it's just a sweet kindness you know it's an offense for him to offer you the coat when you're cold all
01:17:09.540
we could go down but it's like all these little knits turn into big cuts and then you have a gaping hole
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in these societal behaviors that used to make us feel i think more connected to one another more
01:17:23.380
more safe more loved i just better about our community our relationships and it starts with
01:17:32.260
guys like that to me you're hitting on this is such an important point for 99.9 of us over 99.9 of
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history the differences between men and women have been one of the key sources of joy in human life
01:17:47.300
i'm not just talking about sex i'm talking about just the fact that living in a world of men and
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women is one of the delights of being alive life is very hard life ends in death life is full of pain
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but its joys have to be enjoyed fully really have to be able to drink its joys to the dregs in order
01:18:04.980
to live with any kind of dignity and fun at all and the thing about there being men and women for most of
01:18:11.540
us is one of the great pleasures of life and they have done everything they can to deprive us of that
01:18:17.220
pleasure to deprive us of just the things you were describing the things that i do for my wife as well
01:18:22.100
as your husband doing for you the things that she does for me and i'm sure you do for your husband
01:18:26.420
these are the things that make life joyful and it is if you had to list the things that are beautiful
01:18:33.620
about life the first thing i think most of us would say is the love you know the love between a man and
01:18:38.340
a maid is one of the things that makes life worth living and i see that young people have been deprived
01:18:43.940
of this i when i go and give speeches at colleges i sometimes say the first thing i sometimes say is
01:18:48.980
it looks to me like young women are miserable and after i'm finished with a speech any young woman
01:18:53.940
who's not miserable i want them to get up and tell me and tell me why or if you are miserable tell
01:18:59.140
me what not one woman has ever gotten up and said and these are young people not one of them
01:19:02.740
has ever gotten up and said no i'm really happy with the way things are the left has managed to
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poison one of the maybe the central joy of life you know what else is there there's beauty there's art
01:19:14.020
there's music and there's the differences between the sexes this is the things that we love and the
01:19:20.580
fact that you know because some small percentage of the population is gay some even tinier tinier
01:19:26.500
percentage is confused about their sexuality that we have to somehow suspend this major joy the
01:19:32.340
central joy of human life the central uh bliss of god's creation is insane and the fact that people
01:19:40.020
haven't fought back against it tooth and nail and haven't said you know no you know i i really like
01:19:46.260
that there are women you know one of the things that really bothers me on the right is when they
01:19:49.540
talk about transgenderism and people say well it's not natural and like i don't care about when when was
01:19:54.820
nature my friend you know i mean it's not natural it's natural for it to be 100 degrees in the
01:19:58.740
summer i use air conditioning to get around it's not that it's not natural it's that it's a good it
01:20:03.940
is a good that you were made a woman it is a good that i was made a man and it is one of the things
01:20:08.580
that gives us joy in living and that joy of living has been we basically have been told that that joy of
01:20:14.660
living is bigotry in and of itself and i think that that's a sin i think it's a sin to do to young
01:20:20.180
people who are in that place where the love between a man and woman is so central to their happiness and so
01:20:26.020
central to their family formation and to their future i think it's a sin to tell to old people
01:20:31.220
who have enjoyed it so much all their lives i i just think it's it just is a it just shows you what
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a drab mean gray small philosophy leftism is and materialism is and it's one of the reasons we should
01:20:44.580
throw it out completely you know baby and bathwater both drab mean small gray nailed it stand by more with
01:20:54.340
andrew clavin i'm really wanting to ask you as a man formerly of hollywood about matthew perry we'll
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take that up next you make me happier than i ever thought i could be and if you let me
01:21:11.780
i will spend the rest of my life trying to make you feel the same way
01:21:55.300
uh one of the sweeter moments with matthew perry who we fell in love with as he played the role of
01:22:01.380
chandler bing for 10 years on nbc uh as part of the cast of friends learned a lot about him in the
01:22:11.460
days since his passing uh just a few days ago at age 54 they said he died of a heart attack in his
01:22:17.380
hot tub he had posted a picture of himself in that same jacuzzi hot tub overlooking the hollywood
01:22:23.940
you know view uh landscape just a week prior enjoying that exact scene that he would later
01:22:30.420
were told be found dead in front of uh his assistant reportedly finding him they said they did not find
01:22:36.500
drugs around him at the time prescription or otherwise though there were prescription drugs
01:22:40.660
in the house for anti-anxiety anti-depression um but the coroner so far has said the toxicology report
01:22:48.180
will have to wait i mean they're going to do a full scan i raise it because of course he was very open
01:22:52.980
about his battle with addiction and um i have a lot of thoughts on this and i know you do too andrew i'm so
01:22:59.460
sad he's gone i feel like um he found a way through just the nastiest form of addiction there is you
01:23:08.020
know it's just addiction is never good and it's never easy to beat but for some people it can truly
01:23:14.340
be a monster that is just almost impossible to to navigate and that's how it was for him he tried so
01:23:22.100
many times to get sober and couldn't and then finally he said around 2002 he did manage to get
01:23:28.180
sober with some you know falls off the wagon between then and now so for about the past 20 years
01:23:34.100
and he's devoted his life since then to trying to help others do the same just devoted the entire last
01:23:41.140
20 plus years to try and help others find sobriety and he said that's what he wanted to be remembered
01:23:47.620
for what do you make of this untimely death very hard to make something out but i have to tell you
01:23:54.260
like i'm i'm the opposite of a celebrity person i'm the guy who's watching you know the nfl and when
01:24:00.260
they cut to taylor swift i'm like please get back to the football but last year for a reason i have no i
01:24:06.260
have no idea why i did this i just started listening to his autobiography and i gotta admit i became
01:24:12.740
obsessed with it here was a guy who prayed to god as a young man he said god all i want is to be
01:24:18.100
famous if you make me famous you can do anything you want to me i've never seen someone who had
01:24:23.380
every wish come true but that was this guy matthew perry had every wish came come true he not only
01:24:29.380
became famous he had the iconic show of his era uh he had the top movie of while he had the top show he
01:24:37.780
had the top movie the whole nine yards he had some of the most beautiful hollywood women as his
01:24:44.100
lovers he uh julia roberts was one of them for a long period of time everything even when he wrote
01:24:50.020
about his addiction it was the number one bestseller everything that he wanted came true and all the
01:24:55.060
while he was doing this he was pouring enough poison into his body to kill out at the bottoms
01:25:00.340
and i i'm i'm not blaming him for this all i will say is that you read this book you read his memoir
01:25:07.140
and all you can think is everything that you think about addiction is false it's not a disease because
01:25:12.980
you can give it up you can't give up cancer you can give up addiction so it's different than a disease
01:25:18.820
and it and it's not about like you keep thinking well maybe if you find would find god but he finds god
01:25:24.100
he has an actual communion with god doesn't stop and when you say he got sober even that's not
01:25:29.700
entirely true he just his body just wears out he's so sick by the time he's damaged himself so badly
01:25:35.860
that he loses the desire for drugs what this is what this demon is i cannot say but all i know is
01:25:42.900
i sat there and looked at it and thought maybe it was the original prayer that was wrong maybe when you
01:25:48.020
pray for fame you're just praying for the wrong thing you know maybe to pray to do great work and
01:25:52.260
hope that fame comes with it i don't know i don't know i don't know the answer i felt bad for him uh
01:25:57.620
you know i would watch friends he always reminded me of one of my little brothers and so i actually
01:26:02.420
felt some kind of weird connection with the guy i knew people who worked with him and loved him uh
01:26:06.820
he was apparently a very very lovable person uh but the the commitment to self-destruction in his life
01:26:14.740
was terrible to behold it did make me think of demons it made me think of something that has
01:26:19.860
possessed you beyond your ability to control megan i don't have an answer to that i wish i could
01:26:24.820
come up with some kind of pat thing that i could say you know but i i really feel that something
01:26:30.260
bigger than all of our little pat philosophies was at work in this guy's life uh he was almost a parable
01:26:37.940
of of self-destruction and just it's so sad because you know it wasn't it wasn't in the purpose of
01:26:44.180
anything it was obviously just some kind of glitch in his mental system that did this i i really think
01:26:49.780
when you listen to the number of rehab uh centers he went to the number of treatments he had the
01:26:56.180
number of different treatments it made me feel we know nothing about this we have nothing to deal
01:27:01.540
with this there's no way to do to deal with this except to stop and and i i will all i can say about
01:27:07.540
this you remember andrew did he write about his childhood you know did he write about what drove him to
01:27:12.900
drink yes he he blamed the divorce of his parents and that when his mother uh remarried she was the
01:27:20.980
um she was the press officer for for pierre trudeau and uh she was just working too hard and he basically
01:27:27.780
felt like an outsider in his own family uh you know it's something that happens to a lot of people i
01:27:32.420
think divorce is a disaster i believe divorce divorcing with small children is a moral disaster
01:27:37.540
every time i hear somebody say oh the kids will be fine i just want to shake them because the kids are
01:27:41.700
not fine you're that your marriage is the planet your children live on you are blowing up that
01:27:46.580
planet they will never be fine again it's a terrible thing to do and yet other people have survived it
01:27:51.700
without this commitment to self-destruction and it's just just a remarkable story of a guy who had
01:27:57.620
everything got everything he wanted except some kind of love that he was missing some kind of
01:28:02.420
solidity inside himself and it's very sad it really is because you know after all he wasn't hurting
01:28:07.860
anybody he was just a funny guy made people laugh he was a good writer uh he was a talented actor and
01:28:13.380
uh it was it's a terrible thing to see and i i i felt this way about seymour uh hoffman who was a
01:28:19.300
great great maybe the best actor of his generation the image of him pumping heroin into his body until
01:28:24.420
he died uh it's a terrible thing and all you just want to say to people is stay off that stuff just
01:28:30.260
don't go near you know i i can't tell you how angry people yeah of seeking fame and getting
01:28:37.060
hooked to drugs it's it's a very uh familiar pair and it's taken so many great people just thinking
01:28:43.300
like the number of times my kids say what happened to him and i say oh he died of drugs died from drugs
01:28:48.980
prince we were just talking about prince um what happened he died of drugs what happened to michael
01:28:52.980
jackson he died of drugs too really i mean it was different kind of propofol being given to him by
01:28:57.460
dr conrad murray every night to fall asleep but same but combo with with fame matthew perry whether
01:29:03.140
he was intoxicated on the night of his death or not died of drugs um you know the amount of damage
01:29:07.620
that he had done to his body over the years that's obvious phyllis phillips seymour hoffman we could
01:29:11.460
keep going all day and i do think like there's probably no coincidence that the people who chase fame
01:29:17.300
have a hole inside of them that is unfillable and when fame inevitably doesn't fail doesn't
01:29:22.420
succeed in filling it they turn to something else and that's something else drugs is even more
01:29:26.900
pernicious but chasing fame is not only not to be done it's a red flag warning sign that something's
01:29:33.700
wrong i think that you you haven't been taught a certain lesson you haven't been given a certain
01:29:37.620
goodness you need to stop and reevaluate and try to fill that up right then and there without one
01:29:42.500
iota of fame because you know fame does nothing for you fame corrupts fame fame is a dark force if
01:29:49.700
anything it is not an uplifting enlightening one and too many people find that out the hard way i i'm sad
01:29:55.780
for him i will say i thought the statement that the other friends the other five co-stars put out
01:30:00.180
was a good one it really was a good one they wrote we're all so utterly devastated they gave this to
01:30:05.060
people on monday by the loss of matthew we were more than just castmates we're a family there's so
01:30:10.900
much to say but right now we're going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss
01:30:16.580
and time will say more and as and when we're able for now our thoughts and our love are with maddie's
01:30:22.660
family his friends and everyone who loved him around the world signed by all five of the co-stars
01:30:28.100
it's a sad day and it's a reminder of intervening early with your own children or your own loved ones
01:30:33.940
or yourself should you find yourself with this struggle andrew what a blessing to have you here
01:30:38.980
it's so great to talk to you as always love it when you come on please support him by the great
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new book the house of love and death and amazon choice a starred publisher's weekly book as this
01:30:50.500
entire series has been i'm sure it will be a new york times bestseller see you soon my friend
01:30:55.300
thanks a lot man and we'll be right back with a few closing thoughts on halloween don't go away
01:31:01.300
before we go today i have a halloween horror story for you that involves a puffer a puffer fish pumpkin
01:31:13.220
and my strudwick so as you may know from last year we like to do this pumpkin that has candy corn
01:31:20.260
glue sticked to it candy corn's all over a pumpkin and it looks really cool and you can put it the
01:31:26.080
candy corn's flat or you can make them stick out and create a different look i found this online years
01:31:30.520
ago and i thought there's a great thing to do with the kids and i love it so we decided to do it last
01:31:34.740
year and we had a disaster where strudwick got up on the table like a bunch of dumbasses we left it
01:31:39.540
there unfinished and he started to eat it but we caught him in the act and got him away from our
01:31:44.360
puffer fish pumpkin flash forward to this year we're working on the puffer fish pumpkin it's coming along
01:31:51.340
but we have to take a break because it takes a few days we put it away we put it in the bar area of
01:31:55.720
our house to which strud does not have access because we are no longer as dumb as we used to be
01:32:00.240
he there's a closed door a sliding door that he can't open unless we're negligent leave it a little
01:32:05.280
bit open uh between him and the pumpkin so it's protected or so we think well then suddenly last
01:32:11.240
week strudwick started getting sick he threw up after his breakfast i gave him like a sensitive
01:32:16.480
stomach dinner he threw that up too like oh something's wrong the next morning threw up again
01:32:20.700
i said he's got to go in got to go to the vet so they could take him but they could only take him
01:32:25.100
during the show so enter abigail finin who says i will take him to the vet she takes him to the vet
01:32:29.140
they say we think strudwick has a stomach obstruction something's in there that's not
01:32:34.640
supposed to be an oh god what they do an ultrasound they got to get your permission first they do x-rays
01:32:40.220
then they have to do an ultrasound all i can see is that the dollar signs in my eyeballs as the the
01:32:45.460
cash register's going up how much is this visit going to cost but you know i love my dog so we get
01:32:52.000
all the tests all she can say is there's some massive amount of foreign material in his belly like oh my
01:32:57.500
god he got he has to go to the animal hospital and they either need to do surgery or they need to
01:33:02.940
give him an endoscopy abigail finin takes strudwick over i'm still on the air with all of you while all
01:33:08.280
this is happening she takes him over to the animal hospital they decide they might be able to get it
01:33:12.540
with an endoscopy and um they'll get back to me seven thousand dollars later seven thousand dollars
01:33:20.360
later they tell me that they got some stuff out of his stomach but they actually think
01:33:25.640
that he passed whatever was the obstruction while he was there like well what was it because
01:33:31.560
originally i thought it was cabbage or that dried fall corn that you put in front of your house at
01:33:38.280
this time of year to make it look fally and harvesty so i was getting rid of all that abby took picture
01:33:43.420
of me later as i was cutting down the corn and i gave away the cabbage i got rid of all of it
01:33:48.220
so that he wouldn't have another seven thousand dollar stomach obstruction only to find out later
01:33:53.060
that's not what came out of him sorry to be graphic but it looked like little glue circles
01:33:59.120
and some red wax no one knew what that was we thought the red wax maybe it's from those baby bell
01:34:06.480
cheeses you ever eat those baby but with the red wax maybe you got one of those and that was bothering
01:34:10.380
then we went to work on the puffer fish pumpkin again and guess what we saw little remnants of
01:34:19.520
glue circles without their candy corns and huge swaths of the pumpkin that had already been completed
01:34:24.480
now naked without either their glue or their candy corn and guess what else he ate the wax red
01:34:32.440
halloween lips that were serving as the lips of the puffer fish pumpkin that's what the red wax
01:34:38.840
was it was horrifying so as it turns out that stuff is not easily digested at least not by a dog
01:34:46.380
so now strudwick has got a shaved belly he's got a shaved paw from where they you know gave his little
01:34:53.040
ivy he's back on the eating trail again he managed to get in and out of that kitchen in a way that
01:34:59.560
nobody understood he could do so that's a good red warning for the rest of us and i'm happy to report
01:35:04.240
to you that we did last night finally finish the puffer fish pumpkin and i can safely say it is
01:35:10.900
the most expensive puffer fish pumpkin in all of connecticut so i hope you enjoy it hope my kids do
01:35:19.020
uh i hope all the kids who come by trick-or-treating tonight do and um godspeed i do not recommend this
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for your family happy halloween thanks for joining me today and we're back tomorrow to dive deep into the
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trump trials see you back thanks for listening to the megan kelly show no bs no agenda and no fear