The Megyn Kelly Show - Women Fight Back on Trans Ideology, and New Info on Harry and Meghan's ＂Car Chase,＂ with Carrie Prejean Boller and Britt Mayer

00:00:00.480 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.940 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.280 The gender madness continues for more brands replacing females with males in their campaigns,

00:00:21.860 including for women's swimsuits.

00:00:23.680 Now we got to look at the bulge when we're just trying to get our bikinis.

00:00:26.820 Please. Okay, pardon me, but that's disgusting and no one wants to look at it.

00:00:33.400 Biological men continuing to win over females in women's athletic events

00:00:37.900 and drag queen conventions being attended by children as the adults there say it makes them feel reassured to see the children there.

00:00:47.560 Oh, really? Okay.

00:00:49.180 Over the weekend, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre claimed that trans kids belong to all of us.

00:00:55.320 All kids belong to all of us.

00:00:57.960 Well, if that's true, then I want a say on how the trans kids will or will not receive medical, quote, care as a minor.

00:01:05.320 My decision is they don't get it.

00:01:07.300 My decision is they have to wait until they're at least 18 before we start chopping their penises off, their breasts off, and so on.

00:01:15.100 Okay? If they're my kids, that's my decision, Karine.

00:01:17.820 There's plenty to get to today, and we will discuss it with two of our favorites, Britt Mayer and Carrie Prejean Bowler, former Miss California USA's moms and co-founders of The Battle Cry, which is a group that is working to fight back against all of this madness.

00:01:33.200 Ladies, welcome back to the show.

00:01:34.320 Hi, Megan.

00:01:37.120 It's great to see you.

00:01:38.120 I want to start with this.

00:01:38.980 I've been thinking about you two a lot because I would say when you first started coming on the show and we started to discuss these issues, you were farther to the right.

00:01:48.420 I don't know.

00:01:48.960 It's not really a right-left issue, but you were more hardcore on this stuff than I was.

00:01:53.420 And over the past whatever months, let's say 9, 10, I don't know.

00:01:57.280 I mean, it's been a yearly thing, but I have moved so much closer to where you are, and I want to thank you because you've been voices in my ear that, you know, when you hear sense spoken, when you hear truth spoken articulately, it moves you.

00:02:12.980 And like on an intellectual level, on an emotional level, you know it when you hear it, and it's like your eyes open, the sun comes up, and you realize, wait, I was wrong.

00:02:23.740 You know, you realize what they're saying is true, and what I've been saying, while maybe compassionate, et cetera, is leading to, it's part of the problem.

00:02:34.260 It's part of the problem.

00:02:34.780 So I just want to start by saying that to you, because you guys, Kelly J. Keene, what Riley Gaines did, what happened to her, the Leah Thomas, all of it has helped really change my thinking on it.

00:02:46.120 So hats off to you, ladies.

00:02:48.200 Wow, Megan, thank you.

00:02:49.680 Thank you so much, Megan.

00:02:51.060 It means a lot to us.

00:02:52.560 Oh, well, I mean it.

00:02:54.280 And I recommend everybody follow Britt and Carrie on Instagram and all the places, because they have a lot of smart things to say.

00:03:00.700 So let's get into it.

00:03:02.040 There's so much.

00:03:03.360 These stories are dominating right now, absolutely dominating the news.

00:03:10.200 We've got women's cycling is all but gone to us.

00:03:13.780 I mean, it's worse, I think, than women's swimming, right?

00:03:17.700 There's a story every other day now about a trans person winning a women's cycling event.

00:03:24.260 And the most recent, let me show the picture of the most recent one, where the person who won is a biological male.

00:03:29.800 And this person gets up on the podium after it's all done and says, gee, I don't know where everybody is.

00:03:37.500 I beat all the women.

00:03:38.800 Why didn't they show up?

00:03:40.300 This is someone pretending to be a woman.

00:03:42.080 This is the details.

00:03:43.360 It's called the CO2-UT gravel race.

00:03:47.380 It was held on May 14th.

00:03:49.260 It's a 100 miler.

00:03:50.820 It's a century route, they say, that takes you 100 miles onto a special section of gravel right down the seam of the Colorado-Utah border.

00:03:58.360 This is a trans.

00:03:59.820 This is a biological man who says he's a trans woman who's racing.

00:04:03.360 His name was, until two minutes ago, Wesley Mumford, and he was a sheriff's deputy.

00:04:09.420 Now he says he's Leslie Mumford and has won in the women's 40 to 49 age group out of 14 participants and was 6 out of 33 for women overall.

00:04:21.080 This is what he posts.

00:04:22.820 This is my first gravel race of 2023.

00:04:24.840 I'm beyond pleased with my effort.

00:04:26.760 I placed 6th in the overall and the first race of the Colorado Summer of Gravel Series, so a lot of hitters were here.

00:04:32.380 My effort also landed me first in my age group.

00:04:35.840 Lastly, I have no idea why so many people bailed before the podiums, but they did.

00:04:39.920 I swear I wasn't the only one in my age group.

00:04:42.280 Does anyone here have any idea why the biological women, the women, bailed when it came time to celebrate Leslie Wesley's win?

00:04:51.760 I think that what we're seeing is, like you were just saying, Megan, that we've been polite for so long.

00:04:58.300 And we thought that being polite was going to somehow make this all go away, but it's getting worse.

00:05:05.920 But as it gets worse, I think that women are becoming a lot stronger in their convictions and realizing what's at stake and saying,

00:05:14.580 hey, look, if we don't if we don't protest this now, like this madness is just going to it's going to become this tidal wave that's absolutely going to destroy women's sports,

00:05:23.760 which we're already seeing the beginning of that.

00:05:26.080 I thought it was interesting, too, that Inga Thompson, she called she's a professional or was a professional cycler before her breast cancer.

00:05:35.700 Like a badass one, too.

00:05:36.820 Oh, she is amazing.

00:05:39.080 She is amazing.

00:05:40.020 She's become one of my heroes.

00:05:41.120 But she had called on a protest right before this and said, when you hear that start bell, you take a knee.

00:05:49.420 This is the way to send a message to sponsors, to coaches, to teams, to the public that we're fed up, that we cannot have men dominating our women's spaces in sports.

00:05:58.880 This woman, Inga, just so people know, three time Olympian, Inga Thompson, three time Olympian, ten time national champion, three time world medalist, two time podium finisher for the women's tour to France.

00:06:10.060 And she tweeted out the silent protests are starting.

00:06:13.300 She loved the fact that none of the other women went up to the podium.

00:06:16.040 The women are refusing to stand on the podium with the man.

00:06:18.840 Well done.

00:06:19.860 Riley Gaines tweeted enough is enough.

00:06:21.440 Empty podium, except for the male, who naturally finished atop all the women in the women's category, despite there being a non-binary slash trans category he easily could have competed in.

00:06:31.940 Can you believe that?

00:06:32.760 There was a trans category, Carrie.

00:06:34.700 This guy refused to participate in it.

00:06:37.620 They don't want to.

00:06:39.000 They are narcissists.

00:06:41.060 These are people that are very sick.

00:06:43.260 They're sick individuals, and they get off from beating women.

00:06:46.860 I mean, bravo to Riley Gaines, who is calling out, what, nine athletes, nine female athletes.

00:06:52.980 Where are you at, Venus and Serena?

00:06:55.180 Where's your voice in this?

00:06:57.080 Why aren't you standing up for all women?

00:06:59.260 You know you wouldn't have a chance to compete if you had to compete against a dude.

00:07:03.180 You know you wouldn't have gotten all of your accomplishments and trophies if you had to compete against a man.

00:07:09.040 We all know that men have stronger bones and skeletal structure.

00:07:13.420 We know that they have an advantage over women.

00:07:15.620 So I love that women are getting the balls to stand up and say, no more.

00:07:21.580 Actually, hashtag women take a knee.

00:07:24.080 That's what we're calling them.

00:07:25.460 That's right.

00:07:25.940 Can I tell you something about Inga?

00:07:28.020 This is such BS.

00:07:29.600 So Inga, because she's taking a stance, this is the badass female cyclist.

00:07:36.880 She is calling for fairness in sports, and she's being punished for it.

00:07:43.080 Okay, so there's this group, Sinisca Cycling, C-Y-N-I-S-C-A Cycling, and she was its director.

00:07:51.420 I mean, like you can't get much better in cycling, women's cycling, than this woman.

00:07:56.100 And I know Lance Armstrong a little bit, and he's told me how great she is as well.

00:08:00.400 So, I mean, she's the real deal.

00:08:02.220 And they removed her as director because they said she'd gotten too political.

00:08:09.000 That's what they said.

00:08:09.580 We wanted her when she wasn't political, but this is political as opposed to just standing up for women's rights.

00:08:14.240 And she came out and said as follows, I am gobsmacked.

00:08:17.120 I got taken off the team in late November when I was diagnosed with breast cancer.

00:08:21.520 I told them I needed to step down because I needed to take care of my health.

00:08:24.720 I went through surgery and had a double mastectomy.

00:08:26.760 I'm cancer-free now.

00:08:28.120 I don't understand this retaliation.

00:08:30.160 I don't throw wild stuff out there.

00:08:31.720 I'm pretty measured.

00:08:32.900 I've made it clear I'm not attacking this other trans woman who won, who's within rights to race.

00:08:39.160 I'm attacking policy.

00:08:41.020 She goes on to add, this is exactly why people don't speak up, because this is what happens when you do.

00:08:46.140 I mean, if somebody like that can get booted off of this cycling board, she's right.

00:08:52.060 It can happen to anybody, and it's meant to scare everyone.

00:08:55.600 Well, as a person who's been canceled before, I know you have as well, Megan and Britt also.

00:09:01.040 You know, they can't cancel all of us.

00:09:03.340 That's the thing.

00:09:04.420 That's what people need to understand.

00:09:05.780 Look at Bud Light.

00:09:06.960 Look at what's going on.

00:09:08.220 Look at Target.

00:09:09.220 I mean, they cannot cancel all of us.

00:09:11.580 So if we women link arms and say, you know what?

00:09:15.540 We're doing this together.

00:09:17.220 You will not erase us as women.

00:09:19.520 You will not replace us.

00:09:22.780 No, we're taking a stand.

00:09:24.180 If we do it together, we will win.

00:09:26.160 Watch what happens.

00:09:27.040 It's happening now.

00:09:28.020 There's a movement happening.

00:09:29.420 And I'm hopeful.

00:09:30.600 I really am.

00:09:31.680 Women are getting brave.

00:09:33.220 And we're saying we're done.

00:09:34.920 We are done being eliminated.

00:09:36.620 This guy, Britt, who won the cycling race where all the women refused to take the podium with him,

00:09:42.740 he won.

00:09:43.080 I mean, it's so galling to me that he won in the 40 to 49 age group, 40 to 49.

00:09:47.080 You know how hard it is for these professional women to stay in shape?

00:09:50.700 You know, that is you're getting into the premenopausal, menopausal era there.

00:09:55.920 A lot of these women have probably given birth to children and had all sorts of challenges.

00:10:00.580 This is when the breasts start to sag.

00:10:02.080 All sorts of stuff starts to happen.

00:10:03.420 Trust me.

00:10:03.820 And yet they're gunners.

00:10:06.780 They're out there practicing their craft, you know, practicing hours and hours and every

00:10:10.560 day.

00:10:11.040 This guy who was living as a man up until six years ago, 2017, working in the sheriff's

00:10:17.760 department as a deputy, as I pointed out, suddenly says, I'm a woman.

00:10:20.940 I mean, talk about past male puberty, past everything.

00:10:23.840 He married a woman.

00:10:24.660 He had kids of his own.

00:10:25.720 Then suddenly decides as a woman and goes and steals all their medals.

00:10:29.220 How are these women?

00:10:30.100 No wonder they're quitting.

00:10:31.220 No wonder they're saying, forget it.

00:10:33.820 It's so I mean, sometimes I'm like, I can't believe it's real life.

00:10:37.500 And I think that that's where women are waking up to this.

00:10:41.440 I think the public in general is seeing it for what it is.

00:10:43.920 And that's why I keep going back to, you know, we've been patient and playing nice for

00:10:48.840 so long.

00:10:49.420 And now we've come to a point where it's like, wait a second.

00:10:52.340 Like everything you just said, this actually is not fair by all the standards of fairness.

00:10:57.800 This isn't fair.

00:10:59.180 It's thievery.

00:11:00.180 It's mocking women.

00:11:01.880 And it's completely taking advantage of.

00:11:04.560 So we're going to allow these these minor exceptions from this subset of culture to come

00:11:09.780 in and completely change the game and change the rules and change fairness.

00:11:13.640 Well, I think that we're seeing the tide shift now to where people are like, it's not OK.

00:11:20.080 I don't even care if I get canceled anymore.

00:11:21.800 It's not OK.

00:11:22.260 I'm not showing up to the podium.

00:11:23.660 We had there was another cyclist who said, I can't remember now what her name was, but

00:11:27.760 she said, I'm I will no longer race.

00:11:30.420 I'm done.

00:11:31.100 And she was this mega athlete.

00:11:32.760 And she said, as long as we have these trans women in the sports, I'm done.

00:11:36.980 I won't race anymore.

00:11:38.020 You have Ingan Thompson coming out and saying, take a knee now.

00:11:40.760 People are fed up.

00:11:42.520 I think we've reached the boiling point.

00:11:44.860 I think you're right.

00:11:45.880 I really think that we are sort of with all those events that we were talking about, reached

00:11:49.680 an inflection point in this debate where it's just not about kindness anymore.

00:11:53.500 Kindness has gotten us having minors have body parts chopped off.

00:11:57.460 That's there's nothing kind about that.

00:11:59.480 There's only one solution now, and it's to fight.

00:12:01.700 And Riley Gaines gave testimony, I think it was yesterday before Congress or it was Tuesday.

00:12:08.240 It was Tuesday.

00:12:08.880 Yeah, before Congress.

00:12:09.900 And she was talking about both getting attacked at San Francisco State University and about

00:12:15.540 the underlying problem with Leah Thomas when they competed.

00:12:18.080 And she revealed, I think for the first time I hadn't heard this before, that they had

00:12:23.060 they had actually changed the policy the NCAA had to make all locker rooms unisex.

00:12:29.980 They did not tell the young women that so because she was complaining and also revealed that

00:12:36.260 Leah Thomas was walking around.

00:12:37.800 This is an intact male.

00:12:39.500 Will Thomas again up until the year before changed to Leah and it was an intact male.

00:12:45.560 He has a penis walking around the women's locker room in front of these other women.

00:12:49.440 And so Riley reveals that and says she went and complained to the NCAA about it.

00:12:54.320 Like, why are we having to deal with this?

00:12:56.480 And they said, oh, we changed the policy to make all the locker rooms unisex.

00:13:00.040 And as she said, that meant any man could have walked into our locker room at any time,

00:13:04.880 not just a self-identifying female.

00:13:06.500 Any man, any coach, any parent, any official who wanted to would have had full access to our

00:13:12.800 locker room.

00:13:13.440 And guess what?

00:13:13.960 The NCAA never even told them about this change so that the women could take steps to

00:13:19.520 protect themselves.

00:13:20.280 Now I get to worry about some freak taking advantage of it, you know?

00:13:23.260 And I don't mean just Leah Thomas.

00:13:24.840 I mean like some actual criminal.

00:13:28.200 Yeah.

00:13:28.720 Where are the feminists?

00:13:30.120 I know that.

00:13:30.520 And I want to like start by saying, I know that there are feminists who are doing good

00:13:34.720 work.

00:13:35.020 Genevieve Gluck would be one of them that with Redux.

00:13:37.460 She's incredible.

00:13:38.180 I learned so much from her and she is a champion.

00:13:41.100 I know that there are, but not like there were when my grandma was marching in the street.

00:13:45.660 Where are they?

00:13:46.740 Where are the groups of feminists who are so against the patriarchy that would say this,

00:13:53.020 we're seeing the patriarchy come back now in high heels.

00:13:55.880 Like I don't understand the disconnect.

00:13:58.100 Where, why the silence in large numbers from those feminists?

00:14:03.920 Where are they?

00:14:04.900 I think that we are the new feminists.

00:14:07.780 I think that we look different.

00:14:09.660 We want to reclaim femininity and sexuality and say, we're okay being feminine and being

00:14:16.400 sexual.

00:14:16.980 And we're, we're fine with that.

00:14:19.320 We don't want to reject that and become androgynous, but at the same, we don't want to be oppressed

00:14:25.060 by the patriarchy and we don't want to be oppressed by the patriarchy wearing a costume.

00:14:29.260 How degrading is that?

00:14:31.820 Right.

00:14:32.660 Yeah.

00:14:32.800 I've seen you guys tweet women are not a costume.

00:14:35.860 Women are not a costume and yet they allow it.

00:14:40.960 They allow it at every turn.

00:14:42.880 You know, this, I wanted to ask you about this.

00:14:44.700 Uh, over the summer I had, I'm pulling up my, my, uh, screensavers or my, my screen graphs

00:14:49.300 over the summer.

00:14:50.080 I had on the show, a guy he's with national review.

00:14:52.360 Now was with commentary named Noah Rothman.

00:14:54.160 He wrote a great book called the rise of the new, new Puritans.

00:14:57.200 And he's comparing the woke left leftists to the Puritans, you know, who are scolds about

00:15:02.040 everything we did.

00:15:03.240 No joy of any kind can be allowed.

00:15:05.220 And he went through all these great examples and it got me thinking about you two and this

00:15:09.020 debate because you, you literally will get in trouble now.

00:15:12.460 If you wear, let's say a sari to prom, we saw that happen, you know, as a, as cultural

00:15:17.900 or maybe it was a kimono.

00:15:19.220 Some girl was wearing either a sari or a kimono and she got ripped for cultural appropriation.

00:15:24.740 You will get ripped.

00:15:26.300 If you go down to the Bahamas or the Caribbean and you allow your little girl to get the

00:15:30.880 braids in her hair, even though it's local women who are, would love to put braids in

00:15:34.580 your daughter's hair and then, you know, get paid for it.

00:15:37.280 Nope.

00:15:37.640 That's cultural appropriation.

00:15:39.600 And in his book, he gives some more examples.

00:15:42.480 It's well worth buying.

00:15:43.520 I love, love, love Noah's book and it's fun and it's a funny read.

00:15:47.060 It's also disturbing, but it's got solutions.

00:15:49.260 Okay.

00:15:49.440 So let me just give you a couple of examples.

00:15:51.420 He writes about this, um, the couple of women who opened up a food truck following a trip

00:15:56.840 to Mexico.

00:15:57.620 I think this is in Portland.

00:15:58.960 It was there in Mexico.

00:16:00.920 They fell in love with the cuisine, asked local chefs to share their recipes and techniques

00:16:05.060 and brought them back to the Pacific Northwest.

00:16:07.980 Soon enough, the phenomenon's origin story became a subject of outrage.

00:16:12.780 The two women were accused by the city's identity obsessed press of being quote white cooks bragging

00:16:18.760 about stealing recipes from Mexico.

00:16:21.420 Oh my gosh.

00:16:22.960 Burritos.

00:16:23.780 All right.

00:16:24.360 He writes in 2017, the Portland Mercury placed their names on an ignoble list of white owned

00:16:31.040 appropriative restaurants, exclaimed the Mercury quote, because of Portland's underlying racism,

00:16:37.140 the people who rightly owned these traditions and cultures that exist are already treated poorly.

00:16:41.620 The two women were accused of quote, erasing and exploiting their already marginalized identities

00:16:47.920 for the purpose of profit and praise.

00:16:50.420 Uh, the online reviews went South for the business.

00:16:53.040 The business dried up.

00:16:54.540 The truck was soon forced to fold, not because the food these two women made was bad, but because

00:16:59.840 it was good.

00:17:01.140 So how I guarantee if you would talk to anybody in Portland who got that truck closed down,

00:17:06.820 they're going to say there's no such thing as woman face.

00:17:09.400 That's not cultural appropriation or appropriation of any kind.

00:17:12.840 And you're a bigot if you say otherwise.

00:17:15.300 But how do they get away with criminalizing everything as appropriation except this?

00:17:21.540 You know, one of these days, Megan, the history books are going, I guarantee it.

00:17:28.560 This is prophecy right now.

00:17:30.240 The history books will record this time that we are living through in American history at

00:17:34.680 the most insane time period.

00:17:38.260 The fact that there, what is, there is no standard.

00:17:41.220 What is the objective standard that a man suddenly becomes a woman and it's no longer a costume?

00:17:48.420 That is a question that has been buzzing around.

00:17:52.420 Carrie and I have been talking about this.

00:17:53.840 I actually talked to Bruce Jenner about this.

00:17:56.780 What is the objective?

00:17:58.600 Yeah, we'll get into that.

00:17:59.760 What is the objective standard?

00:18:02.040 Because if there is no objective standard, then how do you hang that up in a society?

00:18:07.540 Like you have to have something that is objective.

00:18:10.680 You have to have that magic marker.

00:18:12.360 So what is it?

00:18:13.500 What's the magic marker that a man becomes a woman on this day at this time?

00:18:17.480 And now he can go and compete against female cyclists, because if not, it's what you were

00:18:23.040 just referring to.

00:18:23.680 It's the food truck scenario.

00:18:25.220 It's either it's gender appropriation, which obviously I don't even agree.

00:18:29.700 And I want to say one other thing.

00:18:31.460 I was a collegiate athlete.

00:18:33.560 I played sports my entire life.

00:18:35.840 The thought of having to compete against a man.

00:18:39.080 I mean, the time that I put in, I mean, I was a national champion at 14 years old for

00:18:43.540 softball.

00:18:44.160 I now am an all-star coach for my daughter, who's 12 years old.

00:18:48.780 I told my girls last night, I actually had tears in my eyes when I was telling them that

00:18:54.060 I want to fight for you guys.

00:18:56.680 I want to fight for you guys because you're putting all this time in.

00:19:01.100 You're putting so much time and so much work.

00:19:04.100 We practice four days a week, games on weekends, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

00:19:08.040 And all this is going to go to a waste because some dude wants to take your spot.

00:19:14.100 I'm fed up.

00:19:15.360 I am so done with this.

00:19:17.240 We all have daughters.

00:19:18.380 And if our daughters want to compete, they shouldn't have to compete against some dude

00:19:23.020 who has an advantage over them.

00:19:25.700 I am so done with this.

00:19:27.720 You guys, I'm fed up.

00:19:29.340 And it's so sad that people don't see it.

00:19:31.960 But you know what?

00:19:32.520 I'm hopeful.

00:19:33.280 Like I said earlier, the tide is shifting.

00:19:35.820 Women are being brave.

00:19:36.820 If women are being loud, thanks to strong voices like you guys who are brave enough

00:19:41.840 to say, you know what?

00:19:42.460 No, we're not going to play the pronoun Patty Kate game.

00:19:44.820 Once you do that, you've lost.

00:19:47.200 Once you say, yeah, that's a she, why can't she compete?

00:19:50.560 I know.

00:19:51.900 Language is very powerful.

00:19:53.780 Language is powerful.

00:19:54.900 That's the gateway.

00:19:55.620 We have to stop that.

00:19:57.360 So good, Carrie.

00:19:58.840 Sorry.

00:19:59.860 No, you're right.

00:20:00.760 I feel it too.

00:20:01.540 If my daughter, who's 12, she just turned 12 and she loves soccer.

00:20:05.640 If she showed up and there were a trans girl, meaning biological boy on the other team,

00:20:10.580 I would not let her play.

00:20:11.700 There is zero chance I would allow her to play in that game.

00:20:14.100 It's not fair.

00:20:15.120 It's not fair.

00:20:17.000 It's not fair.

00:20:17.740 And it's not safe.

00:20:18.820 It's also not safe.

00:20:20.060 I mean, it's okay.

00:20:20.840 It's one thing if you're a swimmer and you're in the lane by yourself.

00:20:22.960 But soccer, we saw that volleyball player.

00:20:25.320 She came on the show, 17 years old, got seriously injured.

00:20:29.640 And when the boy who hurt her found out that she was seriously injured, did he call?

00:20:36.620 No, never called.

00:20:37.940 When she finally spoke out about it nine months later to the legislature to say, I don't think

00:20:41.360 we should allow this, uh, the boy texted her.

00:20:44.260 Oh, it's so funny how I'm renting room in your head.

00:20:47.640 This is who we're bending over backwards to accommodate.

00:20:50.580 The misogyny.

00:20:51.740 This is when women need to start marching in the streets.

00:20:54.120 And that's what we're going to be calling on pretty soon.

00:20:56.280 Women need to start marching in the streets and demand justice for all women, for our daughters,

00:21:01.420 for our granddaughters.

00:21:02.840 We cannot just sit back any longer, Megan.

00:21:05.020 We can't.

00:21:05.660 We have to do something about it.

00:21:08.540 Can I tell you something, Carrie?

00:21:09.680 I saw you guys are, I think, organizing one, one such march.

00:21:14.180 And when I first, I was like, well, you know, I've been asked to march in all these women

00:21:17.280 marches.

00:21:17.780 And I always say, no, I'm not doing that.

00:21:19.380 You know, I'm, I'm, I've always said sort of, I'm a journalist and I don't march.

00:21:22.740 Um, this is just an issue.

00:21:24.160 I, I'm, I'm fucking ready to join your march.

00:21:26.500 I just, I can't.

00:21:27.540 It's about abuse of children.

00:21:29.220 Who wouldn't want to march for that?

00:21:31.080 You know, it's like, I'm sorry.

00:21:33.840 I know it sounds impolite.

00:21:35.420 It sounds discourteous to the people who are struggling with trans issues.

00:21:38.660 That's their psychological issue that we can sort of say, okay, I wish you luck on it.

00:21:43.280 Um, but we don't have to go any further than that.

00:21:45.800 No further.

00:21:46.740 Well, you know what Britt and I love about you is that you're dedicated to the fight.

00:21:51.380 You're straight up on the battlefield with us.

00:21:53.640 There's so many people who are, it's just entertainment, Megan.

00:21:56.620 It's just the sound bites and it's just the, oh, I got to say this to get the clicks.

00:22:00.620 And it's all about the money.

00:22:02.120 No, we actually want to see change.

00:22:04.360 We want to see culture shift and we want to see our girls have a stand a chance.

00:22:10.800 I don't want to see my girls spend all this time and effort and for what they might as

00:22:17.280 well quit now.

00:22:18.240 Why are we doing this?

00:22:19.680 Right.

00:22:19.780 It's a self-destructive, it's a self-destructive society against females and female athletes

00:22:27.400 right now.

00:22:28.040 And that's why I think it's unsustainable.

00:22:29.940 I think that we've reached the point where we are realizing the unsustainability and the

00:22:34.300 complete insanity of it.

00:22:35.700 And that we have not created an objective standard.

00:22:38.700 You know, they want to put in the UCI, the cyclist, uh, a cat, whatever they're the oversight

00:22:43.040 committee, they wanted to put in, you know, that, uh, certain estrogen amounts for this

00:22:48.720 amount of time for males.

00:22:50.360 And then they could be considered a female and they could compete against women athletes.

00:22:55.460 It's goes against all science.

00:22:58.040 There, there are peer reviewed publications now stating that even prior to birth a male,

00:23:04.280 the impact of the hormones on a male changes their body long-term.

00:23:09.400 They will forever be a male that we've come to a place in 2023 now, where we think that

00:23:14.800 just by some arbitrary imaginative rule, a man at some point can become a woman.

00:23:21.000 It's completely insane.

00:23:22.500 And it's a lie.

00:23:23.400 And we're saying, Hey, you know, we're going to actually refuse to live by lies and you can

00:23:26.920 cancel me.

00:23:27.580 You can call me names, but I will until my grave say that men can not be women.

00:23:33.780 And until then we'll have a conversation of by what standard, what is the standard?

00:23:39.280 Let's talk about the dust up you had online with Caitlin, um, Britt, because I found the

00:23:43.420 whole thing very interesting.

00:23:44.260 And, you know, this is, this is where I get caught up.

00:23:47.640 Okay.

00:23:47.960 Cause I'll start with this.

00:23:49.080 I see that Caitlin, no one thinks Caitlin is a woman, right?

00:23:52.940 Caitlin has said that she said, I'm a woman in the past, but now she says, okay, I'm a trans

00:23:57.420 woman.

00:23:57.640 I'm a trans woman.

00:23:58.880 And, but Caitlin's joined this fight on our side on a lot of these issues.

00:24:03.580 You know, Caitlin speaking out against trans men, whatever, trans, whatever biological

00:24:09.960 men in our sports and some other issues.

00:24:12.660 And like the medicalization of this issue for minors.

00:24:15.580 And that's good for us, but I've seen people, I've seen you, I've seen Matt Walsh.

00:24:20.200 I've seen others take on Caitlin, like thanks, but no, thanks.

00:24:23.380 Like this, your position is not consistent.

00:24:25.980 And you're really not that helpful to us in this fight because you, you, you're not

00:24:29.580 living your life in a way that actually does support what we're saying.

00:24:33.400 So can you explain what happened between you and Caitlin, Britt on online?

00:24:37.940 Yeah.

00:24:38.440 So I had tweeted out the other day.

00:24:41.360 Um, he, Bruce had said something.

00:24:45.280 Caitlin Bruce had said something, uh, regarding his, the work that he is doing for, for women,

00:24:52.440 that he's going to save women's sports.

00:24:54.700 And I just said, I am so confused, which I still am because how is it that a man wearing

00:25:02.020 woman's face is going to suddenly save women from men wearing women's face?

00:25:07.440 I don't, I don't understand.

00:25:09.420 Help me understand.

00:25:10.680 And honestly, like, I would love to have a conversation.

00:25:13.220 I invited him onto our show today.

00:25:14.860 I would love to have a conversation with him.

00:25:17.080 Uh, I don't hate him.

00:25:18.260 I might still be able to make that happen.

00:25:19.480 Okay, let's go, let's go, Bruce.

00:25:22.560 I would love to have a conversation with him.

00:25:24.660 I don't hate him.

00:25:26.200 I don't think ill of him.

00:25:28.040 I think he's incredibly confused.

00:25:29.860 And I do think he's very dangerous because his voice has been so amplified, amplified in

00:25:35.040 our culture and taken so seriously.

00:25:37.600 Um, and I see him as with all of that in the background, a wolf in sheep's clothing.

00:25:42.920 I don't want a man wearing woman's face to swoop in and save me.

00:25:49.480 I don't need it.

00:25:50.660 I don't want it.

00:25:51.360 And it's the antithesis to progress.

00:25:54.300 So my question to him ended in, I just want to know what the standard is.

00:26:00.700 What is the standard that we are holding up in our society to claim to that's the linchpin

00:26:06.060 that on that a man becomes a woman?

00:26:09.720 Like, is it surgery?

00:26:11.200 Is it a declaration?

00:26:12.580 Is it a hormone?

00:26:14.160 What is it?

00:26:15.240 What is it?

00:26:16.440 And let's not forget, Britt, Bruce said that he never identifies himself as a woman, which

00:26:21.780 that's a lie.

00:26:23.060 He says, well, we have that.

00:26:24.320 You pointed this out.

00:26:25.340 Britt pointed this out in her exchange with him and about his exchange when he came out

00:26:30.020 as trans in his interview with Diane Sawyer.

00:26:32.620 You posted the clip.

00:26:33.480 I think, Carrie, you posted it in support of Britt.

00:26:35.460 Here it is for the audience.

00:26:36.940 Stop one.

00:26:38.620 Are you a woman?

00:26:39.580 Yes, for all intents and purposes, I am a woman.

00:26:45.820 People look at me differently.

00:26:48.220 They see you as this macho male.

00:26:51.780 But my heart and my soul and everything that I do in life, it is part of me.

00:26:57.460 That female side is part of me.

00:26:59.860 That's who I am.

00:27:01.440 I was not genetically born that way.

00:27:03.860 As of now, I have all the male parts and all that kind of stuff.

00:27:11.580 So in a lot of ways, we're different.

00:27:14.260 OK, but we still identify as female.

00:27:20.760 Go ahead, Carrie.

00:27:21.620 What do you make of that?

00:27:23.580 I mean, I feel so bad for this man.

00:27:26.720 And then to to say that God made him that way.

00:27:31.140 I mean, to say that he has a female soul.

00:27:35.000 But then simultaneously telling Britt that, oh, I identify I'm trans.

00:27:39.960 I'm not I don't say I'm a woman.

00:27:42.060 Well, what the hell is trans?

00:27:44.340 Trans is transitioning, right?

00:27:46.560 You're transitioning from what?

00:27:48.400 From what to what?

00:27:49.680 So, yeah, Bruce, you've claimed that you are a woman.

00:27:53.740 You say that you have the soul of a woman.

00:27:55.900 And on top of that, you accepted woman of the year, Bruce.

00:28:01.760 Why don't you put your money where your mouth is?

00:28:05.240 Fairness first.

00:28:05.940 Right, Bruce.

00:28:06.620 And give up your trophy to Riley Gaines, because I think she deserves it.

00:28:11.100 Oh, that would be a good move.

00:28:12.320 Oh, I like that proposal.

00:28:14.000 But let me let me ask you, because he responded.

00:28:17.560 She whatever.

00:28:18.640 Bruce, Caitlin responded by saying being trans is a real thing.

00:28:23.620 I want to get the exact quote.

00:28:25.900 Um, said Caitlin writes, I'm so confused.

00:28:29.360 She meaning Brit follows me.

00:28:31.220 She and I agree on many issues or so I thought.

00:28:33.280 And now she's not in favor of me working to stop the radical left trans activist because

00:28:36.960 I'm trans.

00:28:38.000 Trans is real.

00:28:39.640 I guess that's where she disagrees.

00:28:41.280 What a shame.

00:28:42.220 And I think I know what Caitlin's saying here.

00:28:44.940 It's that there are people who suffer from gender dysphoria who have this genuine belief, like

00:28:51.600 they were born in the wrong body, whatever.

00:28:54.160 And, you know, up until about two minutes ago, it was classified as a psychiatric disorder

00:28:58.320 by the DSM, you know, the manual for psychiatrists.

00:29:01.720 Um, so they recognize this as a psychological disorder.

00:29:05.840 So understanding that let's say it's still what could be categorized as that, because let's

00:29:09.960 face it, they only changed it because of pressure from the left wing woke activists.

00:29:13.500 It is a disorder.

00:29:14.080 Um, and, and let's say Bruce suffers from it and many others suffer from it.

00:29:18.740 So what, what are we supposed to do about those people?

00:29:21.560 Like, what if those people say I'm suffering, like, what are they supposed to do, Brit?

00:29:25.400 You know what I mean?

00:29:25.760 Like just suffer like not because I, I get Caitlin's point of like, I feel the need to

00:29:32.340 dress this way.

00:29:33.060 People get to dress however they want.

00:29:34.580 They get to do what they want when they're grownups, but I'm with you on these issues.

00:29:37.960 I also think I could be a good spokesperson to say what these women are saying is right.

00:29:42.320 Yes, but how do we, in our culture, treat anorexia?

00:29:49.740 What would you do if we had an anorexic celebrity who was clearly anorexic and was participating

00:29:59.760 in an anorexic lifestyle, was celebrated for that, was smeared all over all of the billboards,

00:30:06.640 all of the shows because she was anorexic.

00:30:10.280 And then she had the audacity to say, I'm going to save America from anorexia.

00:30:17.020 While still practicing it.

00:30:18.300 Any serious person, any serious person would say it doesn't work that way.

00:30:22.320 It doesn't work that way.

00:30:23.700 You have your own demons you need to deal with, but you're not going to help us.

00:30:29.140 You're actually going to harm the movement because what you're doing is regression.

00:30:33.340 It's not progress.

00:30:35.040 And that's exactly what we're seeing with the trans movement and those who are jumping

00:30:39.660 in wearing woman's face to say that, say, we're going to save America from women face.

00:30:46.820 Something's not right.

00:30:47.940 And whatever it is he is going with, I'm not a clinical psychologist.

00:30:51.000 Um, I do know that it was categorized as a mental disorder.

00:30:55.520 Like you said, a half a second ago, um, until tremendous pressure.

00:30:59.600 And I think that we're going to have to start to really reevaluate, uh, what, how we categorize

00:31:06.380 these people and then how we amplify these voices and embrace them as female or male.

00:31:12.360 Because the truth is, like Carrie said, there's no, there's no middle ground on this.

00:31:17.420 You can't just say that you are woman one day and you're taking women of the year and

00:31:22.140 you're standing on a podium, crushing, creaming women.

00:31:25.620 And then also have people in that subset that say, well, now I'm trans this middle ground

00:31:31.500 area.

00:31:31.920 And I'm going to save women's sports from women.

00:31:34.460 I'm not as offensive as that group because I'm only saying I'm a trans woman.

00:31:39.440 I'm never, I'm not saying I'm a biologic woman.

00:31:42.680 You're saying there's no distinction, but that doesn't save you.

00:31:45.560 You're doing woman face period.

00:31:47.480 It's done.

00:31:48.120 I'm saying, I'm saying there's no quarter on this issue.

00:31:50.840 There are men and there are women.

00:31:52.880 And I do not want a man wearing a dress and high heels to say, he's going to save my daughter

00:31:57.940 from women or being oppressed by men in dresses.

00:32:02.420 I, the question remains, what is the standard that a man becomes a woman and it's not simply

00:32:08.580 a costume and a mockery.

00:32:10.240 And until then, I don't want a man in a dress saying he's going to save my daughter from

00:32:14.420 men in dresses.

00:32:15.540 This to me, Carrie, reminds me of the Rachel Dolezal thing where this white woman put herself

00:32:21.120 in blackface and pretended to be a black woman for years.

00:32:24.260 Right.

00:32:25.420 And once she was outed as a fake black person, she was universally condemned.

00:32:31.520 I think she had a job with the NAACP.

00:32:33.080 But she was universally condemned.

00:32:35.660 And, you know, maybe she identified as a black person.

00:32:39.080 Maybe she just said, I feel, you know, a kinship.

00:32:41.420 I feel like I was born in the wrong melanin.

00:32:43.560 And I feel like, I mean, everyone was like, oh, no, no, it's no hardcore.

00:32:51.660 Oh, wait, do we have our clip?

00:32:53.100 Steve Krakauer.

00:32:54.720 Do we have our clip of Carrie Britt?

00:32:56.500 We made this clip out of you guys because I love it.

00:32:59.660 I've said it a million times.

00:33:00.840 I say to my kids, I made them look at the clip when you said it on YouTube.

00:33:04.020 Do we have it?

00:33:05.300 What is it?

00:33:06.080 It's a no.

00:33:07.240 It's a no.

00:33:08.180 It's a hard no.

00:33:09.260 Hard no.

00:33:13.600 It is a hard no, Megan.

00:33:15.240 Play it once more.

00:33:16.480 I want the audience to really be able to soak that in.

00:33:18.160 Go ahead.

00:33:20.000 It's a no.

00:33:21.280 It's a no.

00:33:22.240 It's a hard no.

00:33:23.300 Hard no.

00:33:27.800 It's so true.

00:33:29.220 It's like friggin handbags have more protection, counterfeit handbags than counterfeit women.

00:33:34.680 Like, why is it that we are not only like accepting, but we are celebrating counterfeits.

00:33:43.280 We're saying, oh, yeah, come be on Bridal Magazine, a dude with a hairy chest and a beard.

00:33:48.760 Like, how are we just, yeah, Bruce, accept women of the year award.

00:33:53.420 And meanwhile, women are completely silent.

00:33:55.800 I mean, like at the time it was like, oh, wow, that just happened.

00:33:59.940 You know, like we weren't really awakened to all of this that's going on right now.

00:34:04.560 That's important.

00:34:05.380 That's important.

00:34:06.080 I would say that that's a point in Jenner's defense as well, because in 16, this still seemed like a very fringe issue where people were more accepting when someone was brave enough to say I suffer from it.

00:34:18.440 And in his defense, but also in like looking at it from a neutral perspective and how the history books will record it is he was used to bring this into your living room.

00:34:27.620 He was used to normalize this.

00:34:29.780 So now he wants to pivot to say I normalized it.

00:34:33.820 And now let's go ahead and like protect women from it.

00:34:36.720 Like, I don't want your help.

00:34:38.660 I don't want your help in that category.

00:34:40.380 I think that he has great purpose in this world.

00:34:42.940 And I hope that he can find that and be that.

00:34:47.000 But I don't want him saving me.

00:34:49.600 I don't want him saving my daughter.

00:34:51.340 It's that simple.

00:34:52.260 There's no.

00:34:52.820 It's a hashtag part of the problem situation, even though his heart might be in the right place.

00:34:58.180 Go ahead.

00:34:58.440 This was like the gateway drug, you know, he was like the gateway drug into this, you know, cult addicted culture that we're living in, where it's like, you know, he kind of like wiggled his way in right through the Kardashians.

00:35:09.360 Oh, he's Bruce, you know.

00:35:11.160 Oh, everybody loves him.

00:35:12.980 Olympian.

00:35:13.860 You know, he glamorized it so well.

00:35:16.260 And everybody just accepted it.

00:35:18.100 And we're saying, no, no, we're not going to accept it.

00:35:22.040 And so I want glamorization.

00:35:24.300 It continues, right?

00:35:25.840 I mean, like that, you were just making that point that we celebrate it.

00:35:28.680 It's not just enough to be accepting or, I guess, more just compassionate about people who have this issue.

00:35:34.700 We are celebrating it and we are spreading it.

00:35:37.000 We are participating in the spread of something that's very dangerous and very, it's a very difficult way to live one's life.

00:35:43.360 Who are we kidding?

00:35:44.400 Take a look at that series, I Am Jazz, with Jazz Jennings, who was born a boy, and they're trying to make him into a girl.

00:35:51.080 And the mother's saying, I have to wake you up in the middle of the night to expand your fake vagina.

00:35:54.780 I mean, it's absolutely outrageous.

00:35:57.020 So wait, let's take a quick break.

00:35:59.320 We'll come back there and we'll pick up on the glamorization and anything else Britt and Carrie want to talk about.

00:36:04.100 Stand by.

00:36:04.520 So you mentioned the bridal magazine.

00:36:12.960 Oh, my God.

00:36:15.340 With the man on the cover.

00:36:17.900 It's from Brides Today, India, and they have featured someone named Alakveed Menon, a gender nonconforming author and activist in traditional Indian women's wear with heavy makeup, various saris and decadent jewelry, and also a chest full of hair, a beard, a mustache.

00:36:41.880 And I think a unibrow and we are supposed to be celebrating this as, I guess, the new version of femininity.

00:36:50.640 I don't know if that's a fake breast or what's happening there on the side view.

00:36:53.200 So that really makes you get excited about your wedding, does it not?

00:36:57.540 That's what every young girl dreams of.

00:37:00.260 Could he at least shave on his wedding day?

00:37:04.480 We need to teach him.

00:37:06.560 But to your point of celebration now, it's absolute celebration.

00:37:10.500 This is what they write.

00:37:11.220 This is a Texas-born cover model, they say.

00:37:15.580 And this person goes by they, which, again, is not available to you.

00:37:18.380 I'm sorry, sir.

00:37:19.080 They is taken.

00:37:19.840 You may not have it.

00:37:21.440 Yes.

00:37:22.060 They were born in a sexist, castist culture, again, from Texas.

00:37:27.220 And this is not a, okay.

00:37:28.940 That forced them to rethink marriage and sexuality.

00:37:32.360 Quote, I wish I could post an image of myself online without being inundated with hate mail.

00:37:37.740 I wish I could be seen as a human being.

00:37:40.200 I hope we are able to find beauty and pride in our differences.

00:37:43.780 I hope we're not just safe, but well, but well.

00:37:46.420 And not just seen, but witnessed.

00:37:47.780 Most of all, I hope that we can be free.

00:37:51.820 And once again, it's like, well, am I free to put on a sari?

00:37:55.500 Can I wear the outfit that you have on in that post?

00:37:59.540 Am I allowed to do that?

00:38:00.420 Is that because when we try to cross anything, we are told it's inappropriate.

00:38:05.660 It's offensive.

00:38:06.460 It's appropriation.

00:38:07.160 But this man in a damn beard with chest hair that looks like something you'd see on John Travolta in the 1970s can go out there on the cover of a bridal magazine.

00:38:17.040 We're supposed to celebrate, not say anything.

00:38:18.980 Yeah.

00:38:19.160 It's it's so disturbing.

00:38:21.240 I mean, we posted this.

00:38:22.880 We posted this picture on the battle cry and the comments were just I mean, the women were saying, how dare a bridal magazine?

00:38:33.160 Think about it, a bride is a sacred it's it's so sacred as a woman, you know, the day of your wedding.

00:38:40.000 It's it's it's the best day of your life.

00:38:42.260 And to see this dude who doesn't even say I'm a woman.

00:38:46.320 I mean, that was probably the most disturbing thing is he doesn't even say I'm a woman.

00:38:50.320 He says, I'm a dude that likes my chest hair and I like my beard.

00:38:54.520 And I'm just going to mock you women openly.

00:38:57.300 And guess what?

00:38:58.220 I'm going to get on the cover of bridal magazine.

00:39:01.320 I mean.

00:39:02.960 Can you believe that this is the world we're living in, you guys?

00:39:06.260 Like this is this is reality.

00:39:08.160 It's not made up.

00:39:09.940 We just saw a guy win the Pulitzer Prize in literature for writing this long piece about gender.

00:39:17.140 And this is a person who said women are defined by the ability that they can get effed.

00:39:24.040 That's what makes a woman.

00:39:25.740 You can get effed.

00:39:26.800 You're a woman.

00:39:27.860 This person just won the Pulitzer Prize.

00:39:31.740 And this guy, this guy has a similar situation where apparently he has a now deleted Facebook

00:39:38.980 post from his account in 2016 that read, quote, little girls are also queer, trans, kinky and

00:39:47.880 deviant, goes on from there.

00:39:49.820 Really?

00:39:50.620 No.

00:39:51.280 Wrong.

00:39:51.760 Little girls are not kinky and deviant and they're not queer or trans.

00:39:56.000 Right.

00:39:56.280 It's a no.

00:39:57.740 And went on.

00:39:58.580 Yeah, it's a hard no.

00:40:00.180 Your kids aren't as straight and narrow as you think they are in response to bans on

00:40:05.440 transgender women using female restrooms.

00:40:07.860 Then he later tried to say, oh, well, somebody else authored that post that was on his blog

00:40:12.920 untouched until it became a controversy.

00:40:16.060 But this is the person we're celebrating on the cover of the magazine.

00:40:18.700 I remember that, Megan.

00:40:20.220 Like, it's so funny when you started reading it.

00:40:22.120 I'm like, I totally remember that controversy.

00:40:24.520 I remember going down the rabbit hole on that guy.

00:40:26.360 I didn't realize it was the same guy until now.

00:40:28.720 But how how in the world is he still?

00:40:31.560 That's the problem.

00:40:32.600 How is he still being amplified?

00:40:34.560 Why out of all of the people in the United States of America are you choosing these deviants

00:40:41.380 and then amplifying and exalting them?

00:40:44.680 It's because we want this philosophy pushed so heavily that they will take entertainment

00:40:51.840 and use it as their methodology to get into our minds, to get into our brains, to tell

00:40:57.260 us that this philosophy is the new norm.

00:40:59.720 And it's hate speech, like what he said, hate speech.

00:41:02.220 Hate speech now is anything that goes against the lockstep narrative.

00:41:06.320 So they will continue to pick out these these people who are driving this philosophy and

00:41:12.500 amplify them.

00:41:13.200 And we have to get very comfortable being uncomfortable and saying it's an absolute no.

00:41:17.880 Like, I won't accept it.

00:41:19.300 I won't take it.

00:41:20.180 It's it's a joke and it's a mean joke.

00:41:23.100 It's a cruel joke because you're selectively choosing an exclusive cult over the vast majority

00:41:29.500 of people who don't buy it.

00:41:31.400 And also, I mean, what it shows is that he, like so many other people, not all, but so many

00:41:38.540 other in this community has some sort of weird sexual fetish impropriety going on.

00:41:43.740 Nobody talks about little girls as kinky and deviant other than someone who is deviant.

00:41:51.200 That's sick.

00:41:52.240 Who who looks at a seven year child and says they're kinky?

00:41:55.840 Your girl's kinky and deviant.

00:41:57.660 Let me let me add her.

00:41:59.300 Let her celebrate me on the cover of this magazine or let me perform in front of her to drag show.

00:42:04.960 That's why we're all fighting so hard.

00:42:06.880 No, I will not.

00:42:08.480 You're wrong about our daughters.

00:42:09.920 You don't know shit about women or girls.

00:42:12.600 But we do and we will not let our children anywhere near you.

00:42:16.200 And that's like the whole drag queen controversy dovetails just perfectly onto this.

00:42:20.880 I want to get to that with you, but I want to stay before we go to the drag queen stuff

00:42:24.480 on the celebration of these people, because I know you've been railing about what's happening,

00:42:29.480 for example, at Target.

00:42:31.180 So for those who are not paying attention, what what is Target doing?

00:42:34.920 Yeah.

00:42:35.520 You want to take it?

00:42:36.260 You want me to?

00:42:36.900 Yeah.

00:42:37.160 Well, because my mind's on Adidas and Target.

00:42:39.200 Did you before we go?

00:42:40.040 I know it's like every day, Megan, we're just like getting hit, getting hit.

00:42:44.420 I know.

00:42:44.960 It's true.

00:42:45.640 Adidas just went for their Bud Light award yesterday.

00:42:49.580 Oh, yeah.

00:42:50.620 They had like, have you seen it, Megan?

00:42:53.080 Isn't it a picture of a guy in a bikini?

00:42:55.600 It's a full video.

00:42:56.560 It's a full video.

00:42:57.240 You need to go to Battlecry underscore US on Instagram.

00:43:01.580 Here it is.

00:43:02.420 Oh, my God.

00:43:03.000 There you go.

00:43:04.340 Oh, my God.

00:43:05.700 We had to see it.

00:43:06.460 So you have to see it.

00:43:07.620 Sorry.

00:43:08.420 I am.

00:43:08.940 I put the background music Highway to Hell on it because that's what it is.

00:43:13.020 Again, I see chest hair and a bulge.

00:43:16.980 Women do not have bulges in their bathing suits.

00:43:19.220 OK, this is when you see a bulge in the bathing suit, you should run.

00:43:22.460 That's not a woman.

00:43:23.160 That's somebody who's got a different agenda on their mind entirely.

00:43:26.320 It makes it a little easy.

00:43:27.780 But I said real men don't wear bathing suits and real women don't have a bulge.

00:43:33.860 So what the hell?

00:43:35.400 Back to the Target thing.

00:43:36.780 That's what Target is doing.

00:43:37.900 Target is selling bathing suits for women that have bulges.

00:43:42.140 I don't know any woman that has a bulge.

00:43:44.260 Do you guys?

00:43:44.820 No, no.

00:43:45.700 Never mind.

00:43:46.800 And why is Target having little onesies with rainbow and queer and, you know, trans?

00:43:53.180 Why the Target of our kids?

00:43:55.780 Stop targeting our kids, Target.

00:43:58.480 OK?

00:43:58.960 Stop it.

00:43:59.680 We don't want it.

00:44:00.620 OK?

00:44:01.120 Moms shop at Target.

00:44:02.480 We don't want to see front and center having explained to our two-year-olds what trans is.

00:44:08.120 OK?

00:44:08.840 That's the problem with these companies that are going woke is that they think that...

00:44:13.800 And think about it.

00:44:15.020 They're not even targeting their Target audience.

00:44:18.860 I mean, women, mothers shop at Target.

00:44:21.200 I don't know many women and kids, you know, mothers want their kids seeing this crap.

00:44:26.620 This is on purpose.

00:44:28.400 Look at this.

00:44:29.240 This is totally on purpose.

00:44:30.880 And it's to target our kids.

00:44:32.580 It's to hyper-sexualize our kids.

00:44:34.460 And we are saying absolutely not.

00:44:37.440 And we are Bud Lighting Target.

00:44:38.900 But I want to know how many of those clothes that they're selling end up going back at

00:44:43.640 the end of June.

00:44:44.580 There's no way.

00:44:45.860 There's no way they're making a cash cow out of all of that.

00:44:48.840 Not a chance.

00:44:49.560 It's their virtue signaling.

00:44:51.080 They are including, Target is, t-shirts for children that read, trans people will always

00:44:56.760 exist.

00:44:57.860 And apparently some sort of tutus for toddlers that are rainbow striped.

00:45:01.800 They've got shirts that include naked cartoon people in a t-shirt featuring the pronouns

00:45:07.400 she, he, and they.

00:45:10.060 And now the activist group Gays Against Groomers, good for this group, is speaking out saying,

00:45:16.660 this is baloney.

00:45:17.680 Like you, they're saying, take your business elsewhere.

00:45:20.360 Like, good for the gays for speaking out.

00:45:22.160 Because Gays Against Groomers is the right, that's the right word.

00:45:25.020 You're marketing this stuff to little kids.

00:45:27.220 You are a groomer.

00:45:28.140 It is.

00:45:28.540 It's an okay groomer moment.

00:45:29.620 But you're a great challenge to people.

00:45:32.880 I know it's hard to say, never shop at Target, okay?

00:45:35.700 Public Square is a great alternative.

00:45:37.320 I love them.

00:45:37.960 Michael Safer, it's a friend.

00:45:39.180 I would encourage everyone to get on that.

00:45:41.460 I also would encourage on a smaller scale for the moms who do rely on Target for their

00:45:48.340 every day, maybe just the month of June, give up Target.

00:45:52.700 Send a message for just the month of June that you don't like it.

00:45:56.820 You're not okay with it.

00:45:57.760 But that's how you vote with your dollar.

00:46:00.000 And it's not impossible for one month to boycott and to let your voice be heard that

00:46:04.900 way.

00:46:05.100 So I would encourage moms, you know, that's a great way to get in on the battlefield and

00:46:11.300 just say one month, month of June.

00:46:13.100 That's really good.

00:46:13.720 And you know what else?

00:46:14.700 Tell them.

00:46:15.600 Tell them.

00:46:16.200 Write a letter.

00:46:16.840 Write an email.

00:46:18.020 Tell the store manager.

00:46:19.180 Say, this is why I'm doing it.

00:46:20.360 So they know.

00:46:21.440 But like the Bud Light, let me just give you an update on them.

00:46:23.360 For the week ending May 6th, we got to have a lag in the reporting of sales.

00:46:27.480 In-store sales of Bud Light across the U.S. were down 23.6% compared to the year before.

00:46:32.520 The week before that, they were down by 23.3%.

00:46:35.800 The week before that, it was 17.

00:46:37.600 It's getting worse.

00:46:38.960 The scale is going down for Bud Light.

00:46:41.300 Right now, they were about to unleash some campaigns celebrating the military, which

00:46:46.360 I think is absolutely cynical.

00:46:48.120 I mean, this is just cynical.

00:46:49.140 It's like, okay, yeah, use our men and women in the military to make your sales better.

00:46:53.580 Right?

00:46:54.980 Oh, that's sick.

00:46:55.820 I don't care.

00:46:56.480 Even if they do it every time of, you know, this time of year, they celebrate our military.

00:47:01.040 No.

00:47:01.740 You've forfeited your right to put them on your beer cans and celebrate them like you're

00:47:06.500 on the side of America because we know whose side you're on.

00:47:08.740 You haven't apologized for what you did, and that's why your sales are down by one quarter.

00:47:13.680 They're going to keep going down until you find a way to make amends, and even then,

00:47:17.240 I'm not sure I can help you.

00:47:18.420 All right, stand by.

00:47:18.960 The ladies stay with us, and we've got several more things to discuss.

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00:47:37.500 It's got great clips from the week, and it's got a message from me to you.

00:47:43.980 So before we leave the actual brands that are pushing this out there, there's also Anthropologie,

00:47:49.160 which posted, which is using a man parading around, dancing in one of their dresses.

00:47:55.700 We have the video.

00:47:56.740 Hold on a second.

00:47:57.320 We'll get it on the board so people can see it.

00:47:59.940 So yeah, so I guess this guy, their areas with an Anthropologie dress.

00:48:04.880 Oh, good God.

00:48:06.240 And now it turns into this very frou-frou pink dress.

00:48:13.600 Yeah.

00:48:14.640 Okay.

00:48:15.300 You go, guy.

00:48:17.140 He's a male ballet dancer in a female dress made by Anthropologie, like a sky-high heels.

00:48:24.240 And it's yet another brand.

00:48:25.480 Now, this has always, I think, been a left-wing brand.

00:48:27.240 It's like, it smells like patchouli oil in there.

00:48:29.420 You know you're a left-wing.

00:48:30.180 So they don't care, right?

00:48:35.740 Like, this is who their branding is.

00:48:37.680 No one's going to boycott them.

00:48:39.280 But it's yet another celebration.

00:48:41.660 Oh, we're boycotting them.

00:48:45.640 We're adding them all to the list at this point.

00:48:48.020 Okay.

00:48:48.260 I have a story for you, Megan, that's going to make you laugh.

00:48:50.520 My husband on the day before Mother's Day was shopping.

00:48:53.820 He took the kids out for me.

00:48:55.560 He's so sweet.

00:48:56.500 You would love him.

00:48:57.180 We all got to get together sometime, but he was out and took the kids to Jiu-Jitsu.

00:49:01.660 And then he went out to do pre-Mother's Day shopping.

00:49:04.340 And he FaceTimes me because he needed to know my size or something like that.

00:49:08.060 And I thought he was still at Jiu-Jitsu.

00:49:09.880 So, you know, like it pops up FaceTime and I'm looking at him.

00:49:13.260 And at first I'm like, are those the little ribbons from Jiu-Jitsu?

00:49:16.560 You know how they have the belt colors.

00:49:18.360 And then I look closer.

00:49:19.440 I'm like, oh my gosh, babe, where are you?

00:49:21.720 He's like, oh, nowhere.

00:49:23.100 I'm just doing some Mother's Day shopping.

00:49:25.260 I'm like, no, no, I need to know where you are right now because what is that behind you?

00:49:30.100 And he turns around on FaceTime and it's a huge progress flag.

00:49:35.440 It's the rainbow.

00:49:36.640 It's the triangle.

00:49:37.740 It's all the colors.

00:49:39.000 It's the circle.

00:49:39.960 It's and it's huge.

00:49:41.280 It's like the size of him.

00:49:42.080 I said, where are you?

00:49:43.560 And he said, Lululemon.

00:49:45.060 And I said, tell me there's an American flag hanging somewhere.

00:49:49.800 He said, I don't see one.

00:49:51.260 So I said, whatever you have on hold, you go put it back and then ask them.

00:49:56.000 Yes, this is it.

00:49:56.920 This is it.

00:49:57.700 This is such a hot mess of a flag.

00:49:59.960 Good Lord.

00:50:01.060 So he went up and he asked them, hey, where is your he had tons of stuff on hold.

00:50:05.840 Said, where's your American flag?

00:50:07.320 I'm curious because I see that flag, but I I'm curious where your American flag is.

00:50:11.200 Said, we don't have one.

00:50:12.540 He said, well, I'm confused.

00:50:14.000 Why do you only single out that subset of culture, but you don't have the American flag hanging?

00:50:18.000 They said it's corporate policy.

00:50:20.800 It's corporate policy.

00:50:22.020 Lululemon.

00:50:23.340 Yeah.

00:50:24.320 Adam to the list.

00:50:25.860 I know I'm sad to say goodbye to my Lululemon, but if that's what I must.

00:50:29.020 I mean, I was already signed off Nike.

00:50:31.300 Now we've got Adidas right now.

00:50:33.640 They're going to be pretty soon.

00:50:37.360 We'll be naked and starving.

00:50:39.280 But right.

00:50:40.640 But right.

00:50:41.780 Right.

00:50:42.460 This is only going to help our cause.

00:50:45.340 I really especially with you two.

00:50:46.460 That's so much me, but seriously, this is only going to bring more people over to our

00:50:50.040 side.

00:50:51.840 Let's talk about Sports Illustrated, because you are former beauty queens and you understand

00:50:57.500 the beauty business, what sells, what works and what doesn't.

00:51:00.620 And, you know, I was on Paul Murray's a friend of mine.

00:51:02.840 He hosts a show in Sky News Australia.

00:51:04.880 And I go on with him once a week and we talk about culture issues and so on.

00:51:07.680 And he was raising this issue with me because Sports Illustrated.

00:51:11.260 Yes, they've got Megan Fox, who's amazing, very beautiful.

00:51:14.800 But they've also got Martha Stewart, as he described her, an elderly ex-con, very kind

00:51:23.780 of funny.

00:51:24.280 I mean, yes, she looks great for 81.

00:51:26.060 We should all be so lucky.

00:51:27.060 But, you know, she's there.

00:51:29.160 And then there's a trans person there.

00:51:31.940 There is a biological man who's there who's some sort of a singer who was with Sam Smith

00:51:37.820 and his weird devil worship show, Kim Petras, who is Tim Petras, but now looks like this.

00:51:43.560 This is a dude.

00:51:44.820 And I said to Paul Murray, you know, you tell me, Paul.

00:51:48.420 But my understanding of the cover of the Sports Illustrated magazine is it has one main purpose,

00:51:53.800 and that's for 15 year old boys to spend some alone time with it in the bathroom.

00:51:57.300 Like, I don't I'm thinking this isn't the way to get that done.

00:52:01.740 I think it's once again, not knowing the function of your your product or who your audience is.

00:52:06.780 And it is a situation with the trans model or whoever this person is of a man coming in

00:52:13.440 and taking over a spot that previously would have been given to a woman once again.

00:52:18.160 Yeah.

00:52:19.720 And you know what?

00:52:20.940 Britt and I both competed at Miss USA.

00:52:22.980 We were both Miss California.

00:52:24.300 And I couldn't help when I saw this, but think about the thousands of women who would have

00:52:30.420 killed to have been on that cover.

00:52:34.080 I mean, to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated is like winning Miss America or Miss USA or,

00:52:39.620 you know, winning another prestigious title as a woman.

00:52:42.460 And I couldn't help but think of those women who saw that and thought, wow, first of all,

00:52:49.160 he's not even in shape.

00:52:51.200 Number one.

00:52:52.040 Right.

00:52:52.420 And of all, like I looked at it and I was just like, oh, but like you said, Megan, like these

00:52:57.980 these young men who are looking at this, like imagine how they feel like maybe they think,

00:53:04.780 oh, wow, you know, oh, I'm turned on by that.

00:53:07.020 Like, could you imagine as like a young man seeing that and being like, and then you find out.

00:53:11.440 Like, yeah, and then you find out and you find out.

00:53:13.800 It's like the crying game, you know, where you're like, oh, shit.

00:53:16.860 No, this is like it's a fraud.

00:53:19.280 It's a bait and switch.

00:53:21.160 And that's exactly what it is.

00:53:22.440 You just nailed it.

00:53:23.300 That's the word that I kept trying to find in my head.

00:53:25.940 It's a bait and switch.

00:53:26.640 And I think that's the intention is it's to it's to confuse young men.

00:53:30.420 That's like where we're at.

00:53:31.940 Just confuse them.

00:53:32.620 I saw him, Kim, Tim, and I was like, with all the Photoshop, he looked beautiful.

00:53:38.740 I thought he looked like he looked like a beautiful woman on that cover.

00:53:43.940 And that is so, so dangerous because men are going to see that and a lot who aren't going

00:53:50.180 to know that it's a dude are going to, like you said, get bait and switch with it.

00:53:54.560 And now they're attracted or did something in the bathroom to a man.

00:53:59.080 Well, now what's that doing to your sexuality and your reasoning through all this as a young

00:54:04.360 man?

00:54:04.980 It's to confuse and destroy male sexuality and female sexuality.

00:54:10.480 I think that's what what the big picture is here.

00:54:12.700 And also, I thought, you know, how how embarrassing for those other three women that a dude just

00:54:18.020 got shuffled on in the lineup like you're just right on next to a dude like.

00:54:22.480 Yeah, I had to make it the year that there's men in it.

00:54:24.720 I mean, like, is that how the standards, how low they've fallen?

00:54:27.020 I I'm in the one where there's a dude in a bathing suit right next to me.

00:54:31.420 Yeah.

00:54:31.780 And they did it last year, too.

00:54:32.780 They did it in twenty twenty one.

00:54:34.280 But you you said something online that I saw and it was such a good point.

00:54:37.740 It was something to the effect of this is intentional.

00:54:39.860 They are actually trying to merge the genders.

00:54:43.360 It's they're trying to erase the two gender narrative and getting you confused is part of the

00:54:51.980 plan. Yes, yes, because if you can do that, you can destroy the family unit.

00:54:57.740 It's what Hugh Hefner did back in when he was doing his thing in the 60s.

00:55:02.300 Well, he he talked about how what he offered through the Playboy philosophy was a way for men to not feel bad

00:55:10.020 if they hadn't taken a wife by age 20.

00:55:13.320 Prior to Playboy America, you had young men seeking the virtue of husbandry and they took

00:55:20.960 wives and they had children and they were fathers and they were husbands.

00:55:25.420 And that was you've hit the gold standard in America.

00:55:29.120 Playboy comes in and says, I'm going to offer you something different.

00:55:31.920 I'm going to offer you something where you can be a bachelor forever.

00:55:34.820 And it's that same philosophy that was driven in men as an attempt to sabotage the family

00:55:41.960 unit, the family structure and truly the foundation of America.

00:55:46.000 We're seeing replayed now.

00:55:47.860 That's what this confusion leads to.

00:55:49.720 It confuses young boys.

00:55:51.440 It confuses young men on who they are, their sexuality, what they're supposed to be.

00:55:56.800 And it ultimately destroys and appends the family unit.

00:55:59.680 And that destroys the fabric of America, which is completely Marxist in in the ultimate game here.

00:56:07.220 The drag queen shows are one step removed from all this.

00:56:10.760 I mean, they are barely, barely one step removed.

00:56:13.320 It used to be something where like I remember my mom turned like 40 and her friends at her

00:56:19.520 hospital had a dancer come over.

00:56:22.120 It was like the clean.

00:56:23.420 It was like a guy in a dress who then, you know, did like a dance.

00:56:27.180 It was a nothing.

00:56:28.280 It wasn't sexual, right?

00:56:30.360 It was like now drag has become almost synonymous with inappropriate sexual content, bondage,

00:56:38.220 the leather boots, the bulge, filthy words, dirty songs about the P word while they're

00:56:44.800 performing.

00:56:45.220 And they're desperate to do this in front of our kids, desperate to have access to our

00:56:49.520 kids.

00:56:49.820 This is how we first caught on to you guys.

00:56:52.120 When you first came on the first time, I told you, I saw you two standing up at one of

00:56:54.860 these PTA meetings or parent meetings, and you went off on them because they were trying

00:56:58.840 to do this at your school and saying it would be family friendly, family friendly.

00:57:02.680 And you guys were like, what the hell does that mean?

00:57:05.260 Is this family friendly?

00:57:06.280 This, that, the other thing?

00:57:07.260 Well, it's getting even worse.

00:57:08.420 That is not a fight we're winning right now, though.

00:57:10.460 Though people are trying to track crack down on it in states.

00:57:13.820 I've been talking about the fact that Charlize Theron appeared at this via video via at this

00:57:19.000 like drag queen benefits, like a telethon for drag queens.

00:57:23.860 They're upset.

00:57:24.980 They're trying to pretend that all these states are trying to ban drag.

00:57:27.820 It's a lie.

00:57:28.900 It's not true.

00:57:30.020 They're trying to say no more drag shows in front of children.

00:57:34.000 You want to go do it in a bar?

00:57:35.400 You go, go do your thing.

00:57:37.200 You want to do it in a public library where little children are there with their moms

00:57:40.560 picking out, you know, books on Thomas the Train.

00:57:43.500 Get out.

00:57:44.200 No, you're not allowed to do that anymore.

00:57:46.140 I'm sorry you need to be legislated like this, but you clearly do.

00:57:49.180 Because it seems important to you.

00:57:50.560 You're fighting for it at every turn.

00:57:51.920 So that brings me to RuPaul.

00:57:54.420 RuPaul has this thing called DragCon and they are there.

00:57:58.140 They're celebrating drag and they're celebrating children in drag and also attending their drag

00:58:04.620 queen show.

00:58:05.940 Drag queen Frisbee Jenkins was there.

00:58:07.540 Another one named Lolita Page.

00:58:09.300 Lolita Page said the children's presence was a nice reassurance.

00:58:14.480 It's a nice reassurance that, you know, we're getting the access we need and the

00:58:18.580 acceptance of our weird sexual performances in front of children.

00:58:22.900 And here's just a little bit of what what we saw there.

00:58:26.620 It's it's RuPaul and other it's other drag queens talking at the RuPaul DragCon, speaking

00:58:31.540 of Reuters and sought six.

00:58:34.300 I've met so many kids today whose eyes light up when they see drag and it just goes to show

00:58:40.220 that there's, you know, they're trying to criminalize drag.

00:58:42.860 They're trying to make drag queens out to be monsters.

00:58:45.940 They're trying to make anyone who does drag out to be monsters.

00:58:48.420 And we're not monsters.

00:58:49.480 You know, we just are celebrating our life and celebrating living out loud.

00:58:55.480 And kids recognize that and they love it.

00:58:58.360 It's a nice reassurance.

00:58:59.620 I feel like right now we're living in very unsure times based on everything within the

00:59:03.860 laws, et cetera, even with the Bud Light campaign.

00:59:06.240 But I feel like right now this is kind of a reassurance that we are here.

00:59:10.060 We are here and we are here to stay.

00:59:11.660 Do your thing behind closed doors in front of adults, period.

00:59:17.820 Get away from my kid.

00:59:19.460 Carrie, what do you make?

00:59:19.920 Oh, my gosh.

00:59:21.780 But see, I think, Megan, this is where like back in 2008, 2009 ish, where we went wrong

00:59:28.180 as as a society where we said, well, as long as it doesn't affect me, do what you want.

00:59:33.920 As long as it doesn't affect me.

00:59:35.280 And now look now look at how it's affecting us.

00:59:38.000 Like this is where we have to stop playing defense and play offense and say, you know

00:59:43.020 what?

00:59:43.880 Any I am so proud of Tennessee and these other states that are that are creating legislation

00:59:48.360 to ban this stuff because that's what it takes.

00:59:51.360 That's what it takes.

00:59:52.760 You look at these videos that you just played and it breaks my heart.

00:59:56.860 It really breaks my heart because I'm thinking how sick and twisted do you have to be to want

01:00:03.980 to perform sexually in front of children?

01:00:06.940 Yeah, but that's that's where they want to go, Megan.

01:00:09.840 That's what's next.

01:00:11.060 They want to feel entitled pedophilia.

01:00:13.700 That's the next thing.

01:00:14.920 And you know what?

01:00:15.340 It's not conspiracy.

01:00:16.300 It's true.

01:00:17.280 That's the next thing.

01:00:18.420 And, you know, and if we don't stand up, all the moms and dads listening, if we don't

01:00:23.840 stand up, you are going to see a really, really ugly society for our kids.

01:00:31.320 And can I tell you something?

01:00:32.160 Um, some of the products that were being advertised at this event where parents were

01:00:37.880 willingly bringing their young children include, forgive me because this is graphic.

01:00:42.040 Um, the spiked collar company, bitch fist NYC, the lubricant company, boy butter and the

01:00:51.100 flavored anal spray company, holy H O L E Y water.

01:00:56.860 What sane parent would bring their child around those products there?

01:01:04.580 This is look, the Teletubbies are there to lure the children in celebrating what celebrating

01:01:11.340 bitch fist, boy butter, anal spray.

01:01:14.840 What the F?

01:01:16.260 It's demonic.

01:01:16.840 Yeah, but this is where we were headed in the 1940s when Alfred Kinsey started publishing

01:01:22.540 his tables where they were testing kids.

01:01:25.340 Do you know the whole reason why they were doing these experiments on, and this is not

01:01:29.960 conspiracy.

01:01:30.560 This is true.

01:01:31.120 If you can go look up table 34 and table 32 of Alfred Kinsey, uh, the reason they did

01:01:35.780 these experiments on kids to see at six months old, how many times can we get a kid to orgasm?

01:01:40.460 It wasn't even a freaking orgasm.

01:01:41.900 The kid was freaked out of his mind and they called it an orgasm and it was labeled as science

01:01:45.720 and applauded by the United States of America.

01:01:47.680 And it changed the landscape of America entirely in the late forties.

01:01:51.360 But you know what, why he was doing those grotesque.

01:01:55.920 Pettyophilic experiments on kids was to prove to America that kids are sexual from birth.

01:02:02.780 That's where we are all these years later from Kinsey America is say, this is the fruit

01:02:08.780 of that bad, bad seed that we let in our culture and we let it grow and we watered it and we applauded

01:02:14.760 it and we said, if you're speaking against it, you're a hater and you're a bigot.

01:02:17.880 Well, look where we are now.

01:02:18.980 We have bit into that fruit and we have said, yep, our kids are sexual.

01:02:24.320 So we have to highly sexualize them and we have to bring them to these events where you

01:02:27.980 have holy water ass spray.

01:02:29.720 You kidding me?

01:02:31.120 Wake up America.

01:02:32.940 Wake up before it's too late.

01:02:34.920 Cause we're so close.

01:02:36.200 We are so close to falling off the cliff.

01:02:38.620 So to your point, Carrie, that, that, that the way forward here is to fight beyond offense.

01:02:43.080 You do have a real divide right now between the parties.

01:02:46.180 I mean, it is clear.

01:02:47.160 And I always go back to what Rick Grinnell said.

01:02:49.140 He was on the show.

01:02:49.940 He's a Trump supporter.

01:02:50.700 He was in the Trump administration.

01:02:52.100 And he said, um, you know, we're talking about the mean tweets or whatever.

01:02:54.920 And he was like, just stop it.

01:02:56.260 Stop it right now.

01:02:57.080 This is, he said, you can't vote for these people.

01:02:59.440 They're radicals.

01:03:00.080 They can't tell you what a woman is.

01:03:01.680 They're, they're radical.

01:03:02.680 They can't tell you what a woman.

01:03:04.020 I'm like, I think about that every day.

01:03:05.440 It's such a clear message and he's not wrong.

01:03:08.800 There is a very clear divide between the parties right now on this issue.

01:03:12.020 I give you Kareem Jean-Pierre, who's been pushing every far left piece of legislation

01:03:18.460 on behalf of her boss, um, to make it as easy as possible for kids to quote transition,

01:03:23.680 have their penises chopped off, have their breasts chopped off.

01:03:26.440 They'll never be fertile.

01:03:27.980 Uh, they, they will never have an orgasm.

01:03:30.400 All of this, that they're, they're in favor of all these treatments.

01:03:33.820 Here she was speaking about it the other day.

01:03:36.440 And I've met a lot of parents of trans kids in the past couple of months who have told

01:03:41.540 me this, these devastating stories, whether they're in Texas or Oklahoma or wherever they

01:03:46.840 are saying how they now have to seriously consider leaving their state to protect their child.

01:03:52.880 And that's something that we have to call out and continue to be very clear about that.

01:03:58.380 These are kids.

01:03:59.580 These are our kids.

01:04:01.040 They belong to all of us.

01:04:02.660 Oh, no, they belong to all of us.

01:04:06.300 No, no, I encourage everybody to go onto the battle cry and look at our recent video that

01:04:11.040 we posted.

01:04:11.920 I think it's 47,300 now, uh, D transitioners who have shared their stories.

01:04:18.820 That is not compassionate.

01:04:20.660 That is not love.

01:04:21.760 It is hate.

01:04:22.860 You should see these kids.

01:04:24.660 They have to dilate their fake vaginas.

01:04:27.340 They are in pain.

01:04:29.020 They're, they're going to be on medication for life.

01:04:31.260 And a lot of them probably won't live long.

01:04:33.340 That's not love.

01:04:34.360 That's not compassion.

01:04:36.200 It's not.

01:04:37.120 I'm so tired of this.

01:04:39.160 You even have Dylan Mulvaney the other day saying that he still struggles with anxiety

01:04:43.520 and depression.

01:04:44.340 Wait, I thought by transitioning makes you happy.

01:04:46.900 I thought it makes all your problems go away.

01:04:48.960 It's a lie.

01:04:49.720 It was all based on fraud and abuse of kids.

01:04:52.360 And now we're seeing the fruit of it.

01:04:53.740 Just like Brit said.

01:04:55.200 And for the boys, you put them on puberty blockers when they're young.

01:04:59.020 So puberty doesn't come on.

01:05:00.420 And by the way, if you remove puberty blockers, that's how you get 90% of the kids growing

01:05:04.460 out of this.

01:05:05.260 You, if you put them on puberty blockers, it slows down all the things that will revert

01:05:09.020 them to what their natural sex is.

01:05:11.220 Maybe they realize they're gay and so on, but you arrest the brain when you put them on

01:05:14.440 puberty blockers.

01:05:15.240 In any event, you put them on puberty blockers, then right to cross sex hormones.

01:05:18.280 And guess what?

01:05:19.560 The little boys stay with what's considered a micro penis, a little boy's penis.

01:05:24.520 It never grows.

01:05:25.680 There isn't enough tissue to create the fake vagina.

01:05:28.020 And now they're taking material from these little boys' colons to create a fake vagina.

01:05:34.060 At least one kid's already died over in a Dutch boy because it's a very dangerous operation.

01:05:41.120 And this is love.

01:05:42.420 This is what she wants to do.

01:05:43.420 She says they're all, if they're all our children, then that means the three of us are

01:05:46.900 in charge, are the ones she cares about.

01:05:48.700 And we say no.

01:05:50.160 That, okay, great.

01:05:50.780 I'm happy you're putting me in charge of your kid.

01:05:52.740 No, the answer's no.

01:05:54.260 Don't touch her or him before age 18.

01:05:57.080 And even then, we could have some problems, but certainly not as minors.

01:06:00.520 It's disgusting.

01:06:01.120 Yeah, and you know, it's only the state's kids if the state gets what it wants.

01:06:06.240 But then what happens when these kids, like Carrie said, you've got to go onto the battle

01:06:09.380 cry underscore US.

01:06:10.360 We have these two videos.

01:06:11.880 It's a black square with red riding.

01:06:14.120 One of them, males who tried to become females.

01:06:17.640 One, females who tried to become males.

01:06:19.820 And all the complications that they went through, just the scars on their arms, because they

01:06:25.300 farm arm skin to then invert the skin to make it like a pretend penis that then is ripe

01:06:32.560 for infection.

01:06:33.280 And you're a slave to the pharmaceutical industry for life after that.

01:06:36.300 So for the state, for Jean-Pierre, whatever, she wants your kids up till that point, only

01:06:42.300 to mutilate them and to commit that barbary.

01:06:45.160 But then who's liable after that?

01:06:46.900 Who's holding those kids when they're sobbing because they made a mistake?

01:06:50.440 Who is responsible for all their medical care for the rest of their life?

01:06:54.780 Who's responsible, Jean-Pierre, for all of that?

01:06:57.840 Because I guarantee you, the state's not stepping up then.

01:07:00.080 They're going like this.

01:07:00.860 We did what we wanted.

01:07:02.020 We butchered your kid.

01:07:03.280 Now back to you.

01:07:04.400 They want nothing to do with the detransitioners.

01:07:06.520 They pretend that they don't exist, which brings me to the New York Times.

01:07:10.340 So the New York Times was doing some sort of fair and balanced reporting on the trans issue

01:07:14.060 with kids when it comes to kids and the medicalization of this issue.

01:07:17.340 And then it got all sorts of pushback from the left.

01:07:19.340 And then magically appears a new kind of article in the New York Times on May 16th.

01:07:25.500 Howie, few stories of regret fuel the push to restrict gender transition care.

01:07:32.700 That's what they call it.

01:07:33.380 Transition care.

01:07:34.520 Chopping off the penis of a 16-year-old boy.

01:07:36.580 That's gender transition care, you see.

01:07:39.080 Letting a 15-year-old like Chloe Cole get her breast chopped off.

01:07:42.760 That's transition care.

01:07:44.500 It's not mutilization with a double mastectomy for a teenager.

01:07:49.160 Chloe's been on the show.

01:07:50.020 She's spoken out.

01:07:50.660 She's a detransitioner.

01:07:51.820 And they're trying to minimize her story and that of others.

01:07:55.040 This girl has autism.

01:07:56.260 She came on the show.

01:07:56.780 She said, I'm on the spectrum.

01:07:58.020 I went to my parents.

01:07:59.380 That's what was wrong with me.

01:08:00.540 I didn't need to have my breast chopped off.

01:08:02.580 Now, the New York Times has the nerve to dismiss her and others like her as basically Republican shills being used to ban transition care for minors in various states.

01:08:15.180 Ms. Cole and fewer than 10 activists like her, people who transition and then change course, have become the faces of the cause.

01:08:22.800 But most people who transition do not change course, the Times wants us to know.

01:08:27.280 And then they go on to add this.

01:08:28.680 Then they cite the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association.

01:08:32.580 Who say, affirm, affirm, affirm, affirm, and transition.

01:08:35.620 Those are disgusting organizations who have been completely co-opted by the woke left and do not care about children when it comes to this stuff.

01:08:43.060 But here's the thing I wanted to ask you about.

01:08:44.960 They talk about this one transitioner.

01:08:47.780 It's somebody who transitioned, I guess.

01:08:49.620 I can't keep track.

01:08:50.600 They change, quote, change gender, then change back.

01:08:54.700 Then change back again to the fake identity.

01:08:57.740 Who the hell can keep up?

01:08:58.940 And they point out that at one point this trans person was promoting a, quote, fringe theory that asserts that transgender women, meaning biological men, are actually men sexually aroused by imagining themselves as women.

01:09:16.480 So what the New York Times is calling a fringe theory is autogynephilia.

01:09:20.320 We've talked about it on the show before.

01:09:21.920 We've talked about it as well.

01:09:23.020 It is not fringe.

01:09:25.680 It actually accounts for probably most of these cases of transition.

01:09:31.960 And I'll give you, we're going to have Helen Joyce on the show.

01:09:34.840 I love her.

01:09:35.240 Her book Trans is amazing.

01:09:36.880 But in it, she spent some time quoting people like Ray Blanchard, a sexologist, very well known, who says that the overwhelming majority of adult biological men who present with gender dysphoria are of the autogynephilic type.

01:09:54.420 It means you get turned on when you wear women's clothes.

01:09:56.720 It's a fetish.

01:09:57.520 You get off undressing like a woman.

01:09:59.880 It's you're not you don't have gender dysphoria.

01:10:01.980 It's a sexual fetish.

01:10:03.240 In 1987, he did a study and found the percentage of non-homosexual transsexuals with admitted autogynephilia is very high.

01:10:11.100 The figure cited was 82 percent.

01:10:13.920 She goes on in her book to talk about Michael Bailey, a sexologist at Northwestern University in Chicago.

01:10:19.200 Very well respected institution.

01:10:20.940 He cited studies by Anne Lawrence, American psychologist, sexologist and former anesthesiologist who published extensively on transsexuality.

01:10:26.700 She found that reading here.

01:10:31.140 Hold on.

01:10:32.200 Yes, here it is.

01:10:33.140 Eighty six percent of respondents who said they were trans had at least occasional autogynephilic arousal and forty nine percent had at least hundreds of episodes of autogynephilic arousal.

01:10:45.680 It is not fringe and it matters because that's how you get Riley Gaines and the women of UPenn looking at Leah Thomas with his penis out and getting off.

01:10:57.600 That's if you look at Leah Thomas's tweets, we've talked about this per The Daily Wire.

01:11:00.900 This guy gets off undressing like a woman.

01:11:02.700 He gets off, I'm sure, on people seeing him dress like a woman.

01:11:05.040 He got access to this women's locker room and these women were told to go get therapy if they didn't like it.

01:11:09.740 It's real.

01:11:10.360 It's not fringe.

01:11:11.300 And The New York Times knows it.

01:11:12.500 Oh, yeah.

01:11:14.280 And I want all your listeners to remember the month of June is coming.

01:11:17.840 We call it the month of blasphemy.

01:11:20.460 That's exactly what it is.

01:11:21.460 The rainbow does not belong to them.

01:11:22.880 It belongs to God.

01:11:23.680 It's God's promise.

01:11:24.720 They don't get to steal it.

01:11:25.760 It wasn't up for grabs.

01:11:27.040 So for the month of June, I want everybody listening.

01:11:30.380 If you go in a store and you see that flag, remember what Megan just said.

01:11:35.800 Remember that that company is pledging their allegiance to that.

01:11:39.660 And do you want to support businesses that support that?

01:11:42.860 That's a question that you have to answer.

01:11:44.880 So here at The Battle Cry, we're challenging you for the month of June.

01:11:48.180 We're not asking you to do it forever.

01:11:49.580 We'd like you to do it forever.

01:11:50.800 The month of June, stop supporting companies that push this cult on our kids.

01:11:55.860 Stop supporting them.

01:11:57.720 You're right.

01:11:58.220 Because let's face it, the LGB part of the LGBTQ flag, they've already won.

01:12:03.960 They have equal rights.

01:12:05.100 Talk to any gay activist.

01:12:06.300 They'll tell you we're good.

01:12:07.080 We got it.

01:12:07.720 We have gay marriage.

01:12:08.360 We have everything.

01:12:09.380 They had a very strong lobby.

01:12:10.960 They were very well organized.

01:12:12.000 They were very smart in their fights.

01:12:13.400 They have their equal rights.

01:12:14.580 And they're really, come on.

01:12:15.740 I mean, yes, a random case here or there.

01:12:17.300 But there's not a country that is discriminating against gays and lesbians writ large at all.

01:12:21.820 It's about the tea.

01:12:23.240 And if they hang that flag, they are supporting the stuff we are discussing today.

01:12:27.820 Stuff I'm happy to say, Brit, you've got people like Ron DeSantis taking active and important

01:12:34.020 steps to stop.

01:12:35.760 I am so happy with what he just did down in Florida.

01:12:39.400 They have now banned mutilating surgical procedures on minors.

01:12:44.940 I'll give you a couple of things.

01:12:45.820 He just signed five pieces of legislation into law.

01:12:48.180 He's, by the way, expected to announce his candidacy next week.

01:12:51.460 So it's on to protect children in the state from harmful leftist initiatives, quoting here

01:12:55.640 from the Daily Wire, including mutilating surgical procedures, radical gender ideology

01:12:59.780 in schools and sexually explicit drag queen shows.

01:13:03.520 This is amazing.

01:13:04.380 This is like the best thing he's done.

01:13:06.380 Outlaws the permanent.

01:13:08.240 Right.

01:13:08.680 It outlaws the permanent mutilation via surgical procedures of minors and experimental puberty

01:13:13.840 blockers for minors, grants Florida courts temporary emergency jurisdiction to intervene

01:13:19.220 and halt procedures for out of state children, creates a pathway to recover damages for injury

01:13:25.200 or death resulting from mutilating surgeries or experimental puberty blockers given to a minor,

01:13:30.040 protects students from having to declare their pronouns in school.

01:13:33.680 Yes.

01:13:34.740 Expands parental rights in education by prohibiting classroom instruction on sexual orientation.

01:13:38.660 and gender identity and pre-K through eighth grade protects children from sexually explicit

01:13:43.700 performances in all venues and threatens to find, suspend or revoke the operating or our

01:13:50.500 alcohol licenses of those establishments who admit a child into an adult performance.

01:13:56.660 And then finally, expands youth access to sports, doesn't allow trans kids to play sports and forces all public institutions to have separate bathrooms for men and women based on biological sex.

01:14:11.740 What a thought.

01:14:12.660 Unbelievable.

01:14:13.500 Hallelujah.

01:14:13.980 Well done.

01:14:14.980 I mean, good for him.

01:14:17.800 And similar in Texas, by the way.

01:14:20.360 I love.

01:14:20.960 Yeah.

01:14:21.100 Same with Texas.

01:14:21.860 I just saw Texas.

01:14:22.940 It was late last night.

01:14:24.020 And I always correct when these, you know, the, the New York times posted that Texas legislature bans transgender medical care for children.

01:14:32.980 And so I corrected it and said, another state bans the barbaric cult mutilation of children.

01:14:37.860 We need to start correcting language because you win and you lose with words.

01:14:43.380 And I think also to, um, Florida's applause, if they states like California, where we live, crazy California, belly of the beast over here are going to double down so hard to make a state, a sanctuary for the cults and really a high temple for the cult to just butcher up children who come over.

01:15:02.900 Then those other states, they need to be going down even harder.

01:15:06.980 Like what Florida just did.

01:15:08.460 I'm so proud of them.

01:15:09.380 Yeah.

01:15:10.500 And, but, you know, back to the partisan divide, you've got the secretary of state, all right.

01:15:17.060 Secretary of state, Anthony Blinken, tweeting out the following.

01:15:20.200 This is on May 17th.

01:15:21.380 On international day against homophobia, biphobia, interphobia, huh?

01:15:31.120 Huh?

01:15:31.560 As my Nana used to say, huh?

01:15:33.880 And transphobia, we call for an end to harmful conversion therapy practices, including those that attempt to change a person's sexual orientation, gender identity, or expression or sex characteristics.

01:15:47.340 Okay.

01:15:48.340 The only conversion therapy that is happening right now is by Blinken and his side, where they take a gay boy and they try to make him believe he's a girl.

01:15:59.100 They're the ones doing this.

01:16:00.880 That's it.

01:16:01.840 It's exactly, exactly what we need to start saying.

01:16:04.700 Yes.

01:16:05.480 You're so right on, Megan.

01:16:06.920 That is conversion therapy.

01:16:08.740 Taking a kid, butchering them to pieces, making them a slave to the pharmaceutical industry for life, however long their short life is lived, is conversion therapy.

01:16:19.400 We are arguing for affirmative care.

01:16:22.560 And that looks a whole lot different than the way that they're spinning it.

01:16:25.580 Absolutely right.

01:16:27.460 And it's, I mean, this administration right now is trying to ban as conversion therapy, talk therapy for kids who think they might be the opposite gender.

01:16:38.400 That's the solution.

01:16:40.120 That can't get banned.

01:16:41.140 And that's literally the solution for these children that as England has recognized, as Finland has recognized, as Sweden has recognized, all of them have now moved away from this medicalization of minors and pushed talk therapy instead.

01:16:54.320 Figure out like Chloe Cole, whether this is just a person who's on the spectrum and having some social challenges or anorexic because eating disorders are intimately tied to this.

01:17:02.600 We've had person after person come on experts and individuals alike and say that, not to mention, you know, parents going through a divorce, all the stuff that life throws at you, prepubescent or pubescent problems.

01:17:12.420 That's the answer, not the solution or not the problem.

01:17:15.000 And our country is bass backwards when it comes to that under Joe Biden, who I don't even know.

01:17:21.820 I feel like he's out to lunch.

01:17:22.940 He probably doesn't know shit.

01:17:23.980 There's probably Anthony Blinken or somebody else carrying John Pierre telling him he's got a sign on the dotted line to stop kids from getting the help they need.

01:17:29.820 I'll give you guys the last word.

01:17:30.860 Megan, we love coming on with you.

01:17:35.080 You know, Carrie and I say frequently, we are so thankful that you aren't just out here for the clicks and likes and entertainment.

01:17:43.160 We value your voice and your logic and your reasoning and your questioning and digging deep.

01:17:51.220 You are a force to be reckoned with.

01:17:53.220 And we are so thankful to link arms with you and to speak truth into the madness and to ask questions that actually matter.

01:18:00.420 And to give no quarter on issues that you shouldn't.

01:18:03.860 And we're just so thankful to be doing this with you.

01:18:06.600 We love you and we appreciate you so much.

01:18:08.400 Thank you for having us on.

01:18:09.960 Thank you so much, Megan.

01:18:10.780 I love you too.

01:18:11.480 Guys, I'm coming out to your march and I'm going to wear my hat.

01:18:14.640 Hold on.

01:18:15.100 Will you grab it for me, Abby?

01:18:15.880 I'm coming out.

01:18:16.880 I'm going to wear the Kelly J. Keene hat and I'm going to bring Kelly J. Keene merch for you because we I think we all feel the same.

01:18:24.760 This is the deal.

01:18:26.000 Yes.

01:18:27.220 Yes.

01:18:27.660 I love it.

01:18:29.000 I love it.

01:18:30.300 I think you're going to look awesome in red.

01:18:32.280 I'm coming.

01:18:32.860 You're so cute.

01:18:34.180 Yes.

01:18:34.400 Everybody listening.

01:18:35.640 Pledge the month of June.

01:18:36.820 Let's do this.

01:18:37.780 Boycotts work.

01:18:38.640 Come on.

01:18:39.180 Let's go.

01:18:39.700 This is how we make change.

01:18:41.300 That's right.

01:18:41.860 Bye Adidas.

01:18:42.800 Bye Anthropologie.

01:18:44.180 Bye Tarjay.

01:18:45.780 See you.

01:18:46.080 Okay.

01:18:47.020 Bye, ladies.

01:18:47.480 Thanks for coming out.

01:18:49.000 We love to love.

01:18:50.280 Love you too.

01:18:51.500 Aren't they great?

01:18:52.140 They're so great.

01:18:53.340 Okay.

01:18:53.760 So don't forget.

01:18:54.360 Check out the battle cry underscore US on Instagram.

01:18:59.080 All right.

01:18:59.260 They're well worth a follow.

01:19:00.000 You'll learn a lot.

01:19:00.920 And as you can see, their takes are always spicy, informed and important.

01:19:08.540 It's time for another edition of you can't say that or think that or do that.

01:19:13.120 Oh, wait.

01:19:13.580 This is America.

01:19:14.880 This time I have a story for you about America's favorite or least favorite influencer, Dylan Mulvaney.

01:19:21.140 Forgive me.

01:19:21.680 And also about what comedians can and cannot joke about in 2023.

01:19:26.000 I was joined by comedian Chrissy Mayer way back on this show in episode 127.

01:19:31.540 She was hilarious.

01:19:33.200 But as someone who is unabashedly a Trump supporter, she has dealt with social media censorship from

01:19:38.160 tech platforms.

01:19:39.500 But when she's on the road doing comedy shows, she likely thought she was in a safe space to

01:19:43.560 make, well, you know, they're called jokes, especially in a comedy club in Texas.

01:19:49.400 But as Chrissy learned recently, some who attend a comedy show have strict boundaries about

01:19:55.080 what is and what is not acceptable.

01:19:58.000 Chrissy began to make a joke about Dylan Mulvaney and the year of girlhood.

01:20:02.540 And here's how that went.

01:20:05.860 Why has it been a year of girlhood and still no tits?

01:20:12.640 That's that's day one.

01:20:14.500 OK, if I'm transitioning to a dude day one, I'm getting a cock and I just I'm getting the

01:20:20.040 biggest one you can find.

01:20:22.800 So some laughter in the crowd and then someone listening to her out there shouted, he's a

01:20:30.000 man, which Chrissy affirmed.

01:20:32.000 And then a different female audience member shouted, no, she's a woman.

01:20:37.320 And here's what went down next.

01:20:39.980 Oh, oh, oh, we have one of those.

01:20:43.260 No, it's all good.

01:20:46.760 We can all have different beliefs.

01:20:48.280 It's OK.

01:20:48.760 Yeah, some of us can believe in reality and some of us can't.

01:20:55.140 This is America.

01:20:56.580 We should have different beliefs.

01:20:58.460 It's all good.

01:20:59.380 It's not the transphobe.

01:21:01.480 Is that the best you can do?

01:21:05.040 Did you catch that?

01:21:06.540 That's been transphobe shouted the very easily offended audience member who was on her way

01:21:11.660 out of the show.

01:21:12.300 Hello.

01:21:13.180 Hello.

01:21:13.660 You're paying for insults and irreverent comedy.

01:21:17.140 That's why you go to see a comedian.

01:21:19.000 If you want to see safe TV, watch NBC, because you see, even if you are a comedian, if you

01:21:24.260 think you're going to get away with joking about a very serious topic like Dylan Mulvaney,

01:21:29.620 well, you can't say that.

01:21:31.680 Oh, wait, this is America.

01:21:33.940 Go Chrissy.

01:21:35.400 Team Chrissy.

01:21:36.500 Let's get to some of your calls.

01:21:37.880 But I want to kick it off with this.

01:21:39.400 The MK mailbag where we've gotten a ton of mail this week.

01:21:43.240 You can email me, Megan at Megan Kelly dot com.

01:21:47.600 Right.

01:21:47.800 You can go to just go to Megan Kelly dot com and we can sign up for my email or email

01:21:51.280 me.

01:21:52.260 Karen writes in about their fake car chase.

01:21:54.680 You heard the updates on this are absolutely spectacular.

01:21:58.280 The New York PD has been shitting all over their story for the past 24 hours.

01:22:04.700 It's so fun.

01:22:05.580 And actually, I've got to give credit to the rap who went to the police precinct that

01:22:10.420 covers the area where they claim their car chase kicked off.

01:22:16.000 And it was the 18th precinct and the on duty officer there who declined to be named told

01:22:20.060 the rap nothing happened.

01:22:21.520 It's a bogus story.

01:22:22.900 Don't believe everything you read in the newspapers.

01:22:24.900 Mm hmm.

01:22:25.480 We know we're aware.

01:22:26.960 And by the way, the cab driver who took them on the last part of their high speed chase

01:22:32.620 that lasted two hours in Manhattan, he's also spoken out and said the following.

01:22:37.800 And what do you think about the description of this, you know, the near catastrophic event?

01:22:41.760 Oh, I don't think that's true.

01:22:42.980 I think that's all, you know, exaggerated and stuff like that.

01:22:46.100 So don't read too much into that.

01:22:48.200 As far as you were concerned, when they were in your taxi, you know, did you feel like you

01:22:52.020 were in danger?

01:22:52.760 No, no.

01:22:53.340 Did it feel like the paparazzi were being aggressive?

01:22:55.780 No, no, no, no.

01:22:56.980 They were behind us.

01:22:58.180 I mean, they stayed on top of us.

01:22:59.420 That was pretty much it.

01:23:00.320 It was nothing more.

01:23:01.220 You know, they kept their distance.

01:23:03.060 It's just like journalists.

01:23:04.180 It's like everybody else trying to get pictures, make a quick buck.

01:23:07.300 Was it a good trip?

01:23:08.080 Yeah, it was great, man.

01:23:09.020 Ten minute drive.

01:23:09.840 Fifty dollars.

01:23:10.560 Okay.

01:23:10.860 So we asked for, right?

01:23:12.300 You can't beat that.

01:23:15.040 So there you have it.

01:23:16.060 You've got the the taxi driver saying the paparazzi were not aggressive.

01:23:21.500 But this is nothing near catastrophic.

01:23:23.120 And the cops saying nothing happened.

01:23:24.760 Would you move on?

01:23:25.780 Don't believe everything you read in the papers.

01:23:27.340 I tweeted this out yesterday.

01:23:28.640 Remember when you were a kid and little kids used to suffer like one little small injury

01:23:33.320 and they try to blow it up and do a big, big injury because they wanted sympathy or attention

01:23:38.180 or people to feel sorry for them?

01:23:40.320 That's these two.

01:23:41.840 They had a couple of paps who followed them and tried to get a picture.

01:23:44.980 And by the way, as for their New York catastrophic and they were disobeying the traffic laws.

01:23:48.980 Actually, the reports out today via the New York Post are that the freelance photographers who were hired to cover the event are alleging that one of the four SUVs from Prince Harry's security escort was driving in a manner that could be perceived as reckless.

01:24:01.720 The vehicle was seen in a manner was seen blocking off streets.

01:24:05.420 And in one video, it is shown being pulled over by the police.

01:24:10.380 All right.

01:24:10.820 And by the way, some of the photos show Meghan Markle smiling ear to ear in the midst of her New York death experience.

01:24:17.080 They lie.

01:24:17.980 They lie.

01:24:19.420 They've been caught lying yet again.

01:24:21.940 So the MK mailbag, Karen writes in, imagine a car chase in New York City.

01:24:25.740 Who other than a non-New Yorker would believe this tale of woe?

01:24:28.700 I can barely go two lights before it turns red again.

01:24:31.640 Same, same.

01:24:33.240 Amy writes, Markle continues to try to align her story with Princess Diana, a chase that went on for two hours.

01:24:39.840 Really?

01:24:40.600 By the way, ABC News reported yesterday it was only 20 minutes.

01:24:44.280 They were citing cop sources.

01:24:45.560 It was 20 minutes.

01:24:46.720 It wasn't two hours.

01:24:48.220 These two didn't want the paparazzi to see where they were staying.

01:24:51.760 So they chose to circle and circle and circle.

01:24:54.460 And they're mad that they didn't just beg off and not get their picture.

01:25:00.360 Would you just act like grown up public figures?

01:25:04.100 Again, what do you think it's like for Taylor Swift, who's way more famous than you are and more popular when she comes in?

01:25:09.660 I mean, it's just absolutely absurd.

01:25:11.600 What are we seeing here?

01:25:12.260 What are we showing on the board here, Deb?

01:25:13.880 Oh, this is the area.

01:25:15.060 Oh, the New York Post has gone to the trouble of showing you the very short distances they traveled over their two-hour car chase, which is near catastrophic.

01:25:25.300 In any event, they're liars and you know it.

01:25:27.400 Let me get to some of the callers because it's just too fun a day and there's a lot going on.

01:25:31.920 Megan and Harry, I'm taking your thoughts on that, too, as well as crazy-ass gender ideology.

01:25:36.080 Let's kick it off with Brian in Arizona.

01:25:39.260 Brian, hi.

01:25:39.820 What's on your mind?

01:25:41.480 Hi, Megan.

01:25:42.740 First of all, I just want to say I love your show.

01:25:44.340 I've been listening to you for a while.

01:25:45.500 First-time caller.

01:25:47.020 So I'm gay.

01:25:49.340 And with this whole gender ideology thing, as scary as it is, I think it's time for people like me to, you know, I view the whole trans ideology, especially what it's become, really antithetical to me being gay.

01:26:10.560 Like, I'm not attracted to a person because they claim they're male.

01:26:14.480 I'm, like, attracted to males.

01:26:16.800 And I think it's just, like, time for, you know, the L and the G and the B to part ways with the T's and the Q's and all the other nonsense letters that we just want to keep adding for who knows why.

01:26:32.340 Yes, I totally agree with you.

01:26:35.580 And I empathize with the position that organizations like GLAAD are putting you in, because they used to stand for gay and lesbian rights.

01:26:43.860 They used to fight for gay and lesbian rights.

01:26:45.580 And somewhere along the way, they started endorsing all these other things that really, this ideology, the T, they really are doing conversion therapy on gay boys.

01:26:55.660 Yeah, they really are.

01:26:56.640 And it's, I mean, it's a point where I know there's many out there like me, you know, we're timid by nature, but we need to really buckle down, follow the lead of our founding fathers and pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor and start growing the spine and standing up to this.

01:27:20.000 Absolutely.

01:27:20.700 I love to hear you say that.

01:27:21.960 And I hope you do it.

01:27:22.760 I mean, I think within the LGBTQ, whatever community, it's, it is going to have to be gay and lesbian people who force the breakup and hopefully force reason.

01:27:31.820 Right.

01:27:32.200 I mean, anybody who's not in that community, of course, gets dismissed as a bigot, but you guys have real power to say, no, we don't stand for this.

01:27:39.680 They co-opted your flag.

01:27:41.060 They made it into something abominable.

01:27:42.740 You used to be kind of pretty.

01:27:44.540 I don't know what's going on in there now.

01:27:46.420 It's absolutely awful, Brian.

01:27:48.160 But I think you, you have standing as we say in the law to complain.

01:27:51.920 I hope you do it.

01:27:52.920 And thank you for listening.

01:27:53.840 Thanks for calling.

01:27:55.200 Let's go to, let's see.

01:27:59.680 How about Veronica in New Jersey, not far from where I am and where I spend my summers in New Jersey.

01:28:07.140 Veronica, what's on your mind?

01:28:08.760 Hello, Megan.

01:28:09.740 Thank you so much for taking my call.

01:28:11.380 I wrote to you a while back, just a little note that, and I don't hear people talking about this, but there is an actual disorder called body integrity identity disorder.

01:28:24.980 And it's a psychological problem.

01:28:28.660 And it is when somebody goes to their doctor and says, you have got to cut off my right arm.

01:28:34.020 It does not belong on my body.

01:28:36.520 And it's a real thing.

01:28:39.080 They actually want their right arm or their right leg or whatever cut off.

01:28:42.880 And any doctor that would do it would be called a quack.

01:28:47.800 So I don't understand why we're not calling this mutilation of children quackery.

01:28:56.240 I just don't understand it.

01:28:58.140 And I was a school nurse for many years.

01:29:00.960 No, you're absolutely right.

01:29:01.840 I had this debate with Keith Abloh on Fox News in like 2010, somewhere around there.

01:29:08.040 And he told me about this disorder that you reference here.

01:29:11.640 And he said, and he's a psychiatrist.

01:29:13.600 And he said, if somebody comes into my office and says, you know, I got to get rid of my left arm.

01:29:18.760 Please cut off my left arm.

01:29:20.000 I remember the way he said it.

01:29:20.940 He said, I'd say, no, brother, I can't do that.

01:29:24.160 No, brother, you don't.

01:29:25.240 You don't need to lose your left arm.

01:29:26.400 No, we don't do that.

01:29:27.420 We don't do that.

01:29:28.500 And now we're not only doing it for grown adults.

01:29:31.280 We're doing it on children, pretending that they can consent, that they have any idea what they're getting themselves into.

01:29:39.680 They have no idea.

01:29:41.160 Just like these puberty blockers, which we used to give, we still give for precocious puberty.

01:29:46.920 But you only give them for a short period of time.

01:29:50.180 And it's to the girls to try to get them at least to five feet tall if you can.

01:29:54.980 Because we know that if you give them too long, these girls are infertile.

01:29:59.480 So it's just so unfair.

01:30:01.880 It's not right what we're doing.

01:30:03.680 And that's my point.

01:30:05.580 No, thank you for that.

01:30:06.860 And thank you for your time as a school nurse, as the mother of three kids.

01:30:09.860 I appreciate what you do and how important it is.

01:30:12.120 You're absolutely right.

01:30:13.440 The thing with minors is abusive.

01:30:16.160 And, you know, Brian's got a point about what they're doing to young gay boys.

01:30:19.760 And you've got a point about what we're doing to little kids, male, female, straight and gay.

01:30:25.620 They should not be medicalized.

01:30:26.900 And you go, go.

01:30:27.840 I don't show these pictures on the show because they're too graphic.

01:30:29.840 But if you take a look at one of these fake penises that they construct, it's an absolute monstrosity.

01:30:34.860 It's an absolutely disgusting pile of flesh that they try to cobble together.

01:30:39.800 It's sad.

01:30:40.740 It's upsetting.

01:30:41.420 And the thought that a loving parent would do this to their child, it's just it's hard to it's hard to even stomach.

01:30:49.420 Let's go to Barbara in Pennsylvania.

01:30:51.480 Hi, Barbara.

01:30:51.960 What's on your mind?

01:30:53.480 Hi, how are you?

01:30:54.600 You know, I'm so fed up with this stuff of because like even at my job, you have to sign an inclusion, you know, amendment every year saying that, you know, this hospital, we're all inclusive.

01:31:10.260 We have to be respectful, all of that.

01:31:14.140 And they troll social media, looking for people who are against it.

01:31:20.440 And then, you know, I mean, technically you can lose your job if you say something out of sorts, you know, and they don't define what is appropriate.

01:31:30.440 It's if it makes that person feel bad, then it's inappropriate.

01:31:37.380 Yeah.

01:31:38.060 What?

01:31:38.380 No, that's not, that's not the way this works.

01:31:41.760 No.

01:31:42.360 And I, I have a child who is dyslexic, who is technically considered disabled.

01:31:48.900 Okay.

01:31:51.660 She asked me when she was like seven years old, if she could play in the special Olympics.

01:31:57.760 And I was like, no, like, why aren't we saying no, it's not appropriate.

01:32:03.820 Yeah, no, it's, it's, you know, gender doping.

01:32:07.700 It's gender doping when it comes to the sports, right?

01:32:10.340 These guys have an, an inherent advantage, the testosterone.

01:32:14.020 Yes.

01:32:14.220 But that's not, that's not it.

01:32:15.360 The bone size, the heart size, the lung capacity, the wingspan, the muscle, musculature, all of it.

01:32:22.060 We could go down the list like that deputy sheriff who transitioned.

01:32:24.580 And a few years later, a few years later, as a grown man, he's dominating in women's 40 to 49.

01:32:30.700 It's baloney.

01:32:31.780 Barbara, thank you.

01:32:32.540 Thank you for calling.

01:32:33.740 Let's go to, let's see, David in North Carolina.

01:32:36.540 Hi, David.

01:32:36.900 What's on your mind?

01:32:37.340 Hey, um, I've got a 27 year old daughter who ran track in high school and I talk to her now and she's an engineer, number one in her class at a, you know, high end university in North Carolina.

01:33:03.240 And when I talk to her about it, she goes, we have to give them a chance.

01:33:11.900 You know, I don't know what to do about that.

01:33:14.840 I think she has to come to it naturally.

01:33:17.100 She has to read more and be exposed to the unfairness more.

01:33:20.360 You know, young people tend to be more left and I think they sort of find themselves more in the middle as they get older.

01:33:26.780 But, um, it's probably no accident.

01:33:29.380 She's not running anymore.

01:33:30.540 And she feels this way.

01:33:31.500 Like the ones who are actually having to compete are in a much different, much more difficult position.

01:33:38.380 And, you know, you see person after person come out, starred athletes to say, this is unfair.

01:33:44.080 You know, Martina and others, she's got to listen because it's, it's my daughter, right?

01:33:49.180 It's Abby's daughters here who are going to have to deal with this with all due respect, not your daughter.

01:33:54.600 And so hopefully she can listen to some other sourcing and inform the opinion that way.

01:33:59.480 But thank you for sharing that story with us.

01:34:01.500 And thank you for calling in and listening.

01:34:03.440 And thank you all for sharing today's program and all the programs with us.

01:34:06.800 We really appreciate you choosing us for your news and your news commentary.

01:34:10.200 Um, I can tell you're out there and I feel your support and I hope you feel it for me too.

01:34:14.480 I want to tell you that tomorrow we have Dan Bongino here for his first appearance on the show.

01:34:18.760 So much to get to with him.

01:34:20.300 Looking forward to talking with him and seeing you guys all then.

01:34:25.760 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 18, 2023

Women Fight Back on Trans Ideology, and New Info on Harry and Meghan's ＂Car Chase,＂ with Carrie Prejean Boller and Britt Mayer ｜ Ep. 553

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