The Megyn Kelly Show - Zachary Levi on RFK and Tulsi Bringing Him to Trump, Secrets of Hollywood, and How God Saved His Life

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00:01:01.420 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:03.260 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111

00:01:05.340 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.740 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:01:14.380 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:15.680 Live today from Sirius XM HQ in New York City.

00:01:19.880 I have to say, when we show you the full set later,

00:01:23.200 you'll see a Sirius XM really stepping up its game.

00:01:25.720 It got me like the NFL Sunday guest, like desk.

00:01:29.480 It's, look at this.

00:01:30.980 So fancy, isn't it?

00:01:32.620 Thank you, friends at Sirius.

00:01:34.140 I love it.

00:01:35.200 And this seat will be occupied momentarily by Zach Levi,

00:01:38.380 who is here in the building and on his way up.

00:01:41.460 And I'm looking forward to speaking with him.

00:01:43.140 There's a lot to go over today.

00:01:44.820 And you know what?

00:01:46.060 Before we get to that, picking up on our AM update.

00:01:50.500 I don't know if you guys listened to the AM update this morning.

00:01:53.140 It was our first morning podcast.

00:01:55.580 We're going to be offering that now during the weekdays.

00:01:57.280 It's just a 15-minute straight news update for folks before they start their day.

00:02:02.220 But it was mostly about what's happening with the settlement,

00:02:06.860 the resolution of the Russia-Ukraine war and how Trump has really taken the lead.

00:02:12.420 Hello, somebody had to and is having direct meetings with Putin.

00:02:17.500 And Zelensky of Ukraine is very unhappy and continues to sort of yap about it.

00:02:23.500 Now, with all due respect to Mr. Zelensky, this thing was just on and on and on with no progress

00:02:30.600 until or hope of resolution until Trump got directly involved,

00:02:34.300 till he got elected and stepped in there and actually started to say,

00:02:37.760 look, let's be realistic about how this thing is going to land.

00:02:40.980 So Zelensky would do well to just be quiet for a while to see what Trump can accomplish.

00:02:46.540 And when Trump brings it to him, it will be a proposal and he can react accordingly.

00:02:52.000 But instead, he's been yapping the whole week long about there's no deal on Ukraine without Ukraine.

00:02:58.360 Well, he knows that. All right.

00:03:00.220 But realistically, you'll probably do what we tell you to because your war ends without our support.

00:03:04.740 And everybody knows that.

00:03:05.760 So we're kind of doing you the courtesy of allowing you to appear like you are in charge.

00:03:10.100 But everyone knows without our money, this thing goes away.

00:03:13.540 You can't you you lose.

00:03:14.760 You would have lost week one.

00:03:17.460 The Europeans have donated some, have supported some.

00:03:19.940 But let's be honest, their coffers are a lot more shallow than ours are.

00:03:25.840 And we're the number one player in making this thing go away.

00:03:28.820 So that's why Trump is taking the lead.

00:03:31.120 He's dealing with Putin directly.

00:03:33.140 And Zelensky just keeps dropping these not helpful statements.

00:03:37.800 And I think Trump has about had it because he just issued a truth, you know, a truth social.

00:03:44.560 And I'll give you a couple.

00:03:46.820 All right.

00:03:47.100 So stand by.

00:03:48.400 Let me see if I can find these on my phone.

00:03:52.100 Oh, gosh.

00:03:52.880 Can you guys send them to me again?

00:03:54.560 My team sent them to me.

00:03:55.720 And now I can't find them now that we're actually live on the air.

00:03:59.260 Stand by.

00:04:00.100 I will get it to you.

00:04:01.740 Here it is.

00:04:02.880 Oh, no.

00:04:03.340 Shoot.

00:04:03.520 That's not it.

00:04:04.640 Are we live?

00:04:05.480 Is this happening live?

00:04:06.260 Trump basically called him a dictator and put him in his place saying, you know, why

00:04:12.820 don't you take a seat because we're doing something here and you're not being helpful.

00:04:19.000 Here it is.

00:04:20.080 Think of it, he writes on Truth Social.

00:04:21.920 A modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelensky, talked the United States of America

00:04:27.860 into spending $350 billion to go into a war that could not be won, that never had to start,

00:04:34.940 but a war that he, without the U.S. and Trump, will never be able to settle.

00:04:39.960 The U.S. has spent $200 billion more than Europe and Europe's money is guaranteed, while

00:04:45.620 the U.S. will get nothing back.

00:04:47.400 You remember that Trump struck the deal the other day or was starting to that would allow

00:04:51.520 for us to have access to Ukraine's natural minerals as, you know, as collateral for our

00:04:58.220 for our money.

00:04:59.620 And nobody even thought of that.

00:05:01.040 You know, Biden was just handing them boatloads of dollars without any promise in return.

00:05:06.500 So Trump is saying here that we spent $200 billion, Europe got a guarantee.

00:05:11.580 We never did.

00:05:12.760 Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden demand equalization and that this war is far more important to

00:05:17.220 Europe than it is for us?

00:05:18.680 We have a big, beautiful ocean as separation.

00:05:21.320 Obviously, Europe is part of Ukraine and Ukraine's part of Europe and Europe has to worry about

00:05:25.960 this war, which is in its backyard, not ours.

00:05:27.880 On top of this, Zelensky admits that half of the money we sent him is missing.

00:05:32.840 That's exactly right.

00:05:33.740 He admitted that it's gone underreported, but we've got over $100 billion that's just

00:05:38.100 kind of gone.

00:05:39.540 And Zelensky's admitting it.

00:05:41.020 And by the way, if you said we don't trust him, he's we think this man should not be entrusted

00:05:46.400 with the American dollars.

00:05:47.580 You would be called all sorts of names as recently as like six months ago.

00:05:51.840 But it's a valid concern.

00:05:53.740 He's admitted that it's gone and no one knows where.

00:05:55.700 He says Zelensky refuses to have elections, is very low in Ukrainian polls, and the only

00:06:02.360 thing he was good at playing Biden, the only thing he was good at was playing Biden like

00:06:05.920 a fiddle.

00:06:06.640 A dictator without elections, Zelensky better move fast or he is not going to have a country

00:06:10.860 left.

00:06:11.520 In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the war with Russia, something

00:06:15.520 I'll admit only Trump and the Trump administration can do.

00:06:19.620 Biden never tried.

00:06:20.780 Europe has failed to bring peace.

00:06:22.240 And Zelensky probably wants to keep the gravy train growing going.

00:06:26.160 I love Ukraine, but Zelensky has done a terrible job.

00:06:30.020 His country is shattered and millions have unnecessarily died.

00:06:33.520 And so it continues.

00:06:35.020 And let me tell you why this is so bad for Zelensky.

00:06:37.220 It's because recently Trump, since he took office, was sounding not neo-Cony.

00:06:44.900 Trump is not neo-Cony.

00:06:46.580 You know, J.D.

00:06:47.100 Vance and Tucker are much more in the non-interventionalist camp.

00:06:50.220 And that's very large within the Republican Party.

00:06:53.160 I would say Trump is close to them, but not entirely aligned with them.

00:06:56.940 He's still got like a toe over in not neo-con camp, but, you know, he's not afraid to drop

00:07:03.040 a bomb on a guy like Soleimani.

00:07:05.140 He's, you know, if the situation calls for it, Trump will be more bellicose, both in his

00:07:09.960 language and then ultimately in his behavior.

00:07:11.640 And what Zelensky doesn't want to do is saber rattle Trump over to the J.D.

00:07:21.040 Vance Tucker side, where Ukraine will get even less than Trump is trying to negotiate for

00:07:26.140 them.

00:07:27.120 Right?

00:07:27.420 Trust me when I tell you they'll do better under Trump in a good mood than they will

00:07:32.540 under Trump in a screw you Zelensky mood.

00:07:35.360 So this is not smart behavior from a guy who has very few chips with which to bargain.

00:07:41.800 Trump spoke to what's happening between the U.S., Russia and Ukraine from Mar-a-Laga on

00:07:47.340 Tuesday.

00:07:48.080 Here's Sot 5.

00:07:49.320 Tell us a little bit more about the Russia talks, your impression of how they went today

00:07:53.840 and if you're perhaps more confident or less confident of a deal after what happened today.

00:07:58.120 Well, much more confident.

00:07:59.420 They were very good.

00:08:00.200 Russia wants to do something.

00:08:02.820 They want to stop the savage barbarianism.

00:08:07.160 I mean, what's going on over there?

00:08:09.440 It's soldiers are being killed by the thousands on a weekly basis.

00:08:13.540 It's ridiculous.

00:08:15.160 And they're not American soldiers.

00:08:17.020 They're Russian soldiers and they're Ukrainian soldiers largely, although a lot of Koreans

00:08:21.900 have been killed, as you know.

00:08:24.060 Quite a bit of them have been killed.

00:08:25.940 They came over to fight and a large portion have been wiped out.

00:08:29.040 But we want to end it.

00:08:31.580 It's a senseless war.

00:08:33.420 It should have never happened, would have never happened if I was president.

00:08:36.840 Well, that's the other piece of it.

00:08:38.200 And I think we all know that's true.

00:08:40.620 He has a different relationship with Vladimir Putin.

00:08:43.120 And Putin would have been more, if not afraid of Trump, than respectful, I think, of the power

00:08:49.920 that Trump yields as the United States president.

00:08:55.060 Trump went on to say, yeah, I can end this war.

00:08:57.920 And honestly, everyone knows that.

00:08:59.940 So he really, like, again, Zelensky's playing with fire.

00:09:02.800 Take a listen here to SOT6.

00:09:05.460 I want to see peace.

00:09:06.720 Look, you know why I want?

00:09:08.740 Because I don't want all these people killed anymore.

00:09:11.400 I'm looking at people that are being killed.

00:09:13.980 And they're Russian and Ukrainian people, but they're people.

00:09:17.040 Doesn't matter where they're from on the whole planet.

00:09:19.900 And I think I have the power to end this war.

00:09:23.320 And I think it's going very well.

00:09:26.080 So that's where things stand now.

00:09:28.240 Look, if he strikes a deal with Putin that allows Putin to have some most, it's going to

00:09:36.060 probably be most of the territory that they have taken in Ukraine, but also says and also

00:09:42.780 says that Ukraine will not be joining NATO, Putin will accept that deal.

00:09:47.220 And Zelensky's going to accept that deal.

00:09:50.080 He's going to have to have security to ensure that they will not be attacked again.

00:09:54.940 And it seems like the Europeans are prepared to give them some forces.

00:09:59.220 Trump is saying no U.S. forces.

00:10:00.680 We're not going to be the peacekeeper over there.

00:10:02.460 Great.

00:10:03.140 I think we've all had it up to here with that kind of role for the United States across the

00:10:07.120 world.

00:10:08.000 And I'm sure there will be some sort of additional financial investment, which Trump will now

00:10:13.080 say will be repaid, in essence, by the earth materials, the raw earth materials that we

00:10:18.220 can get out of Ukraine, which is very valuable.

00:10:20.880 So that's where we are.

00:10:22.880 It's a precarious situation, but it's going to be handled.

00:10:25.840 And the only thing that could queer the deal is Zelensky shooting his mouth off.

00:10:29.680 Let's hope he stops that.

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00:11:31.440 Today, we've got a very special guest.

00:11:35.260 His name is Zachary Levi.

00:11:36.720 You may have seen him on this broadcast.

00:11:38.600 You may have seen him on some other shows around the cable nets and so on.

00:11:42.760 He's a big Hollywood actor.

00:11:44.620 He's Shazam.

00:11:45.620 That's how my kids know him.

00:11:46.940 I know him from the Kurt Warner movie in which he was amazing.

00:11:50.660 And he did something especially courageous, especially for those in Hollywood this year.

00:11:56.840 And that was he came out as an open supporter of Donald Trump and of RFKJ during the primary.

00:12:03.540 All right.

00:12:03.700 So first it was RFKJ and then he endorsed Trump.

00:12:06.180 Despite the inevitable backlash, everyone knew it would come.

00:12:09.420 But there's something interesting happening with him.

00:12:12.560 I don't know that it has come.

00:12:14.780 It's like somehow I think we might have found the one Hollywood celebrity who wasn't an open

00:12:19.280 Republican, who endorsed Trump and still has a career.

00:12:22.840 It's one of the mysteries of life.

00:12:24.920 We discussed the last time why he discussed, why he felt the need to speak out and his support

00:12:30.740 of the so-called Trump Avengers team, you know, Tulsi, RFKJ, and so on.

00:12:34.780 When he was first on the show back in October, it was episode nine to eight.

00:12:39.020 We didn't have time to go through his fascinating life and career.

00:12:42.000 So we get to do that today with him in studio.

00:12:44.980 But first, here's a quick refresher on Zach on screen.

00:12:49.920 I hope I'm not interrupting.

00:12:57.200 No, not at all.

00:13:00.060 That's from, it's from Batman.

00:13:01.480 Because that makes it better.

00:13:03.180 Hi.

00:13:06.980 How you doing?

00:13:08.540 The name's Flynn Rider.

00:13:11.120 How's your day going?

00:13:12.720 Huh?

00:13:14.200 Who else knows my location?

00:13:17.000 Flynn Rider.

00:13:18.100 All right, Blondie.

00:13:19.020 Rapunzel.

00:13:20.220 Gesundheit.

00:13:20.680 I'm the only person I know that knows anything about this Caped Crusader stuff.

00:13:23.380 Can I?

00:13:24.100 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:13:27.380 That's crazy, right?

00:13:28.560 What are your superpowers?

00:13:30.040 Superpowers, dude?

00:13:30.620 I don't even know how to pee in this thing.

00:13:33.400 Amazing.

00:13:33.980 That's the last one from Shazam.

00:13:35.960 He's got a new movie out in theaters this Friday, and it's called The Unbreakable Boy.

00:13:40.440 It is a heartwarming story about the ups and downs of navigating life with an autistic son.

00:13:46.140 And we'll get to that in just a bit.

00:13:47.980 Zach, welcome back.

00:13:48.640 Hi.

00:13:49.380 So good to be back.

00:13:50.160 So good to see you in person.

00:13:51.500 I know.

00:13:51.660 Not just in a little square on a screen.

00:13:53.360 I know.

00:13:53.760 You never get to do it in person.

00:13:54.820 I love coming down to the SiriusXM fishbowl.

00:13:56.860 And you know, they broke out the NFL desk for us.

00:13:58.800 How about that?

00:13:59.200 Oh, look at this.

00:14:00.320 This is fancy.

00:14:00.800 This is the football desk?

00:14:02.380 They don't do this for just anybody.

00:14:03.860 I want you to know that.

00:14:04.600 I'm honored.

00:14:05.300 I'm honored.

00:14:05.580 So I want to kick it off with your movie because I think this is perfectly on brand for you.

00:14:10.820 I think the Kurt Warner thing was perfectly on brand for you.

00:14:13.600 Of course, Shazam just has mass appeal.

00:14:15.100 That's on brand for anybody.

00:14:16.100 But like, this is great because it's a story about love, family, challenges, faith.

00:14:22.520 And I think given your newfound huge fans on the right who appreciate not just how you act,

00:14:28.460 but what you stand for.

00:14:29.460 Yeah.

00:14:29.660 This is right in the sweet spot.

00:14:31.980 Yeah.

00:14:32.460 I mean, listen, my goal is always to just make excellence, you know, like I, from the beginning

00:14:38.660 of my career, even as, you know, someone who grew up Christian and was conservative in many

00:14:43.860 ways, I would consider myself a libertarian, but I've always had conservative fans and Christian

00:14:48.380 fans.

00:14:48.980 And I've always said, I have no intention of being a Christian actor.

00:14:52.080 I want to be an actor who also happens to be a Christian or who happens to be whatever

00:14:57.560 else those other, you know, kind of, um, uh, indicators are, but with this, with the Unbreakable

00:15:03.460 Boy with American Underdog, I went after those films.

00:15:06.320 It's the Kurt Warner film.

00:15:07.220 Yes.

00:15:07.560 The Kurt Warner film.

00:15:08.620 Um, you know, those films resonated with me because they were excellent.

00:15:11.740 I could see it on the page.

00:15:13.200 They were excellently written and the team around them wanted to make them excellently.

00:15:17.520 And, and I love this story particularly, um, similar to the Kurt Warner film, American

00:15:22.640 Underdog.

00:15:23.100 It's a true story.

00:15:23.760 It's a real family and their story.

00:15:26.180 And Scott Lorette, who I play the father and husband, he wrote a book, the Unbreakable

00:15:31.280 Boy, which is this film is based on.

00:15:33.420 And it was very brave and very vulnerable in showing just how not great of a father and

00:15:38.520 husband he was for many years.

00:15:40.140 He felt like he was failing.

00:15:40.540 He was.

00:15:40.960 Because the, the child has a couple of disabilities or challenges and, um, he's, you know, no chair,

00:15:46.800 no parent understands how to handle that naturally.

00:15:49.180 And so he's very open about how it wasn't easy.

00:15:51.880 No.

00:15:52.320 And, and more than that, I mean, you know, he and his wife, Teresa, they, they, they,

00:15:56.180 got pregnant on the third date.

00:15:57.940 Like that was a massive curve ball.

00:15:59.560 It's like, wow, this is not what I was expecting.

00:16:01.180 Right.

00:16:01.460 But they were like, we're going to see this through.

00:16:02.900 We're going to do this.

00:16:03.600 And we'll figure out our relationship as we go.

00:16:06.160 That was hard.

00:16:07.160 That was a curve ball.

00:16:08.780 Um, simultaneously during all of this, right now, now they're having children and their

00:16:12.660 first son, as you pointed out, has multiple things going on that he's struggling with.

00:16:17.100 One is osteogenesis imperfecta, which is brittle bones disease that they, and they find out kind

00:16:22.140 of early on within the first couple of years, that's crazy and a massive curve ball, not what

00:16:26.400 he's expecting.

00:16:27.080 And then a few years later, he's presenting very atypically and they find out he's on the

00:16:30.840 autistic spectrum.

00:16:31.620 Um, I think that all of these things are, um, indicative of, even if those aren't specifically

00:16:39.440 the things that we go through or struggle with in our own lives, we're all, we all have

00:16:43.760 these expectations of what we think our life is supposed to be, how it's supposed to look,

00:16:46.820 how it's supposed to unfold.

00:16:48.600 Scott was already dealing with his own insecurities and unhealed traumas, not really accepting and

00:16:55.080 loving himself.

00:16:56.080 So these things then just pile on, right?

00:16:58.420 We feel like, well, clearly I'm screwing up if all of these things, if this is where the

00:17:02.460 universe or God is bringing my way, this is my karma.

00:17:05.660 This is what's happening to me.

00:17:07.420 And I was really grateful that I got to portray him and really bring it to life in a very authentic

00:17:12.420 way.

00:17:12.740 It's not just rainbows and butterflies and feel good.

00:17:15.080 This movie, this movie has lots of that in it and humor and heart, and it's infused with

00:17:20.080 faith, but it allows the audience to go into the grittiness and, and, and darkness

00:17:26.620 and hardship that the human condition brings about what it, what it means to just be human

00:17:31.980 and then tackling marriage and, and parenthood and all of those things.

00:17:36.820 So let's show them a clip.

00:17:38.240 So they get a flavor for what we're talking about.

00:17:40.220 Let's watch side 18 part of the trailer.

00:17:43.380 Hey, Osman, are you sure that's the right hat for your first day?

00:17:47.420 Don't be a goober daddy.

00:17:48.640 El Jester is the best one.

00:17:50.660 It's the mountain dude code red of hats.

00:17:52.940 And the best part is the six.

00:17:54.880 I just dig it.

00:17:56.880 Oh, do that.

00:17:57.880 I'm Austin, but you can call me Oz Man.

00:18:00.240 Welcome back, everybody!

00:18:02.240 I have a lizard named Marty and the killer hat collection.

00:18:06.240 When I meet people, I tell them everything.

00:18:09.240 Logan, this is Tyler.

00:18:10.240 He said we can be best friends.

00:18:12.240 All I have to do is shut up.

00:18:14.240 Oh yeah, I'm also autistic.

00:18:17.240 Autism presents itself in many different ways.

00:18:20.640 It's a class for kids with special needs.

00:18:22.640 They think that it's time, that it's only going to get worse.

00:18:24.640 Earth to Austin.

00:18:26.640 I think his brain is on another planet.

00:18:28.640 Nope, my brain is right here in my head on Earth.

00:18:32.640 This is not what I thought it was going to be like.

00:18:35.640 She was on it.

00:18:36.640 Dad's late for work.

00:18:37.640 One!

00:18:38.640 Austin, what are you doing?

00:18:39.640 Two!

00:18:40.640 I feel like I'm failing every day, and the harder I try, the worse I do.

00:18:44.640 Honey, your mistakes don't define you.

00:18:46.640 How you healed us.

00:18:48.640 You've given up so much for this family, and you've never stopped fighting for us.

00:18:53.640 Patricia Heaton as the grandmother.

00:18:56.640 I'd watch anything with her.

00:18:58.640 Her values are so intact.

00:18:59.640 She's so great.

00:19:00.640 She is so solid as a human being, and she's so talented.

00:19:04.640 And Megan, what's Megan's last name?

00:19:06.640 Megan Fahey.

00:19:07.640 She's amazing.

00:19:08.640 She's like a rising star.

00:19:09.640 She's wonderful.

00:19:10.640 She's a rising star.

00:19:11.640 White Lotus.

00:19:12.640 White Lotus Season 2.

00:19:13.640 The thing with Nicole Kidman.

00:19:14.640 The thing with Nicole Kidman.

00:19:15.640 Yeah, I don't remember that.

00:19:16.640 I know.

00:19:17.640 I don't remember either, but she was great in that too.

00:19:18.640 The perfect couple.

00:19:19.640 Very talented, and we were very grateful to have her play Teresa.

00:19:23.640 Drew Powell plays my basically best friend in the movie.

00:19:27.640 Peter Facinelli plays our pastor.

00:19:30.640 And the child actor, Jacob.

00:19:31.640 Jacob LaValle.

00:19:32.640 Yeah, who's here.

00:19:33.640 He's based in New York.

00:19:34.640 He's a wonderful kid, young man now.

00:19:36.640 I mean, he's-

00:19:37.640 Crazy talented.

00:19:38.640 Yeah, very talented, and so uniquely perfect for this role, because you're trying to bring

00:19:45.640 a child with autism to life in the most authentic way possible.

00:19:50.640 And also, we were casting in the height of the pandemic.

00:19:52.640 There were a lot of people that were just like, I'm not, I don't want to leave my home.

00:19:55.640 I don't want to chance it.

00:19:56.640 The plague is flying around the world.

00:19:58.640 Right.

00:19:59.640 So everyone that ended up playing these roles was someone that was tailor made and fit perfectly.

00:20:04.640 Like, you know, God works this way.

00:20:05.640 I mean, those were the people that were supposed to be in this film with the cast, the crew.

00:20:10.640 And it was a little engine that could.

00:20:13.640 It was a thing that kind of came out of nowhere as we were preparing to make American Underdog.

00:20:17.640 This was like an added bonus.

00:20:19.640 And then we shot that, shot American Underdog, and then we were supposed to, originally the

00:20:23.640 movie was supposed to come out three years ago.

00:20:25.640 Oh, wow.

00:20:26.640 But because it was a small slice of life family film, and because a lot of people were

00:20:31.640 still hesitant getting back to theaters, even in, you know, beginning of 2022, Lionsgate,

00:20:37.640 and I think wisely said, listen, we don't want this thing to get lost.

00:20:40.640 We don't want to get just destroyed by these tentpole movies are the only ones doing well.

00:20:44.640 So let's sit on it.

00:20:46.640 And three years later, here we are.

00:20:48.640 So, I mean, I'm sensing a theme in the projects to which you are attracted.

00:20:52.640 I mean, I think anybody would have taken the lead in Shazam.

00:20:55.640 Any actor in Hollywood would have killed for that.

00:20:57.640 But it also has an uplifting message.

00:20:58.640 I mean, part of what we loved about it was just how sweet it is, the relationship amongst

00:21:02.640 the family.

00:21:03.640 And also, it made you laugh.

00:21:05.640 Like, I was trying to explain it to my friend.

00:21:06.640 I'm like, it's not like, he's not like a scary superhero.

00:21:09.640 He's funny.

00:21:10.640 He's goofy.

00:21:11.640 You know, you're totally rooting for him.

00:21:13.640 But then, like the Kurt Warner, American Underdog, that story is amazing.

00:21:17.640 It's one of the best American stories.

00:21:18.640 I think I mentioned this to you last time you were on, but my first husband was obsessed

00:21:22.640 with the LA Rams and they've moved around anyway.

00:21:25.640 But he was obsessed with Kurt Warner and was reading that autobiography or biography.

00:21:29.640 I can't remember.

00:21:30.640 I think it was his autobiography on our honeymoon.

00:21:32.640 So I got to know all these facts about Kurt Warner.

00:21:34.640 First, I was like, this is so boring.

00:21:36.640 Stop reading me football excerpts.

00:21:37.640 And by the end, I was like, I'm reading that book right now.

00:21:40.640 You know, who marries a single mother with a child who's challenged and has all sorts of

00:21:48.640 challenging disabilities?

00:21:49.640 No man who's like on his way up in the football world, you would think would say, yeah, this

00:21:55.640 is where I want to park the car.

00:21:56.640 I want in on this situation.

00:21:58.640 But Kurt Warner did.

00:21:59.640 He was backbencher.

00:22:01.640 He only got to play because the first stringer got hurt and everybody was like, oh, bullshit.

00:22:06.640 Kurt Warner's we're in.

00:22:07.640 This sucks.

00:22:08.640 Yeah.

00:22:09.640 And sure enough, you want it was just such a great story.

00:22:11.640 Right.

00:22:12.640 MVP of the football game.

00:22:13.640 So I'm just sensing a theme in the stories that you select that they all have heartstrings

00:22:17.640 and they have these like classic American stories.

00:22:19.640 I mean, I think heart is the most important ingredient in almost any story told, whether

00:22:25.640 that's a comedy or a drama or a dramedy, or even if you're watching an action movie or,

00:22:31.640 you know, sci fi or whatever, like, are you the audience able to connect to that character?

00:22:37.640 The first and most important thing you're connecting through is the humanity in that character,

00:22:42.640 which is the heart of that character.

00:22:44.640 I've been very blessed that, you know, a lot of these roles, they come to me, you know,

00:22:48.640 up until Shazam, I couldn't be very picky about the jobs that were coming my way.

00:22:53.640 Post Shazam, I have more offers.

00:22:55.640 And so I have a little more agency in deciding, okay, we'll go this way or we'll go that way.

00:22:59.640 But up to Shazam, I could, I had say over the auditions I would go on or not, but those

00:23:06.640 jobs are still like, okay, what's, what, what is God going to put in my lap?

00:23:09.640 What role am I about to go and play?

00:23:11.640 And I will say that, you know, maybe it's because I lead with my heart of my whole life.

00:23:16.640 I have, I have a really deep empathy and love for all of humanity.

00:23:20.640 And I, and I, and I really mean that it's not just a, you know, a soundbite or whatever.

00:23:26.640 I just, I, it's one of the reasons why I felt so compelled to even begin speaking, I guess, you know,

00:23:31.640 being more open politically because I felt like not just where I think we needed to go,

00:23:37.640 but guys, we're tearing each other apart.

00:23:39.640 We're, we're not seeing the person across the table as a child of God.

00:23:44.640 We're seeing them as the enemy.

00:23:45.640 We're seeing them as a monster.

00:23:46.640 And I just don't operate that way.

00:23:48.640 I want to be able to go and bring people together as best I can.

00:23:52.640 And as an actor, when I get to tell stories that are so led heart led that get to tell stories that are infused with hope.

00:24:00.640 And, and that are inspiring that, you know, that, that bring people back to understanding themselves and each other more.

00:24:07.640 I think that, you know, that's a, those are great opportunities.

00:24:11.640 Is it also fun to go and do things that have nothing to do with that, that are just for fun, just for laughs?

00:24:16.640 Absolutely.

00:24:17.640 I want to do all that stuff too.

00:24:19.640 But as an actor, I want to, I mean, to me, like I'm proud of almost everything that I've done in my career.

00:24:28.640 Interesting qualifier there.

00:24:29.640 Well, I'm proud of everything that I've done.

00:24:31.640 I see ground to exploit.

00:24:32.640 On, on different levels, right?

00:24:34.640 On different levels.

00:24:36.640 But what I'm saying is I am particularly proud of this film in part because I got to play a role that, that really goes through it.

00:24:44.640 It's not just one level of being, all right, I'm this guy.

00:24:48.640 And not to say that other roles that I've played haven't also had levels and layers, but there's an overall kind of more upbeat, let's say vibe to Chuck that I did on NBC for years or Shazam or Tangled or Harold and the Purple Crayon or whatever.

00:25:03.640 You know, I have so much love for all these projects in one way, shape and form.

00:25:07.640 But to play this real character, similar with American Underdog, you know, Kurt was much more stoic.

00:25:12.640 And so there, there was, um, there wasn't quite the same roller coaster.

00:25:17.640 Like, cause Kurt was also just this really like solid dude, as you're talking about, like he wasn't struggling with alcohol.

00:25:24.640 He was struggling with his own, like, what am I doing?

00:25:26.640 I'm lost in this journey.

00:25:27.640 And I, I feel like God called me to be the next Joe Montana, but that's not happening.

00:25:31.640 And I'm stocking shelves, but I love this woman and she's got two kids and I love them too.

00:25:36.640 And so I'm going to go commit to that and we'll see where God takes me the rest of the way.

00:25:40.640 Scott is wrestling with God the entire time, putting on a good face.

00:25:44.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:45.640 Charming this guy, you know, working, but also just losing himself in a bottle because he's drinking away his problems because that's what so many people struggle with.

00:25:53.640 I mean, alcoholism is rampant.

00:25:55.640 Let me show him a little bit of that.

00:25:56.640 We have a bit of that captured in a clip 20.

00:26:00.640 I wish I could enjoy anything as much as my son enjoys everything.

00:26:05.640 I've always held on so tight to things.

00:26:11.640 I don't even know why.

00:26:13.640 I just always needed everything to be a certain way.

00:26:20.640 I talk about an attitude of gratitude.

00:26:26.640 It's never been me.

00:26:29.640 I'm never content.

00:26:30.640 I never have been.

00:26:32.640 I used to think that that made me ambitious,

00:26:34.640 but actually it just makes me ungrateful.

00:26:44.640 And I hate that about myself.

00:26:51.640 I push everything away, everything and everyone I care about.

00:26:55.640 I don't want to do that anymore.

00:27:11.640 I want to be more like my son.

00:27:14.640 And that's him there in a group therapy for alcoholism.

00:27:18.640 Yeah.

00:27:19.640 Yeah.

00:27:22.640 Sorry.

00:27:23.640 No, it's emotional.

00:27:24.640 Yeah, it is.

00:27:25.640 And I haven't really, I've only seen the movie once.

00:27:27.640 Really?

00:27:28.640 Yeah.

00:27:29.640 We did it.

00:27:30.640 When John finished it, we had a screening just like kind of our cast and it was wonderful.

00:27:36.640 It was great to finally see what we had made together.

00:27:38.640 But I haven't seen a lot of these scenes since then.

00:27:40.640 And, you know, and these are things that I have struggled with that I think we all struggle with on some level.

00:27:49.640 Gratitude is massive.

00:27:51.640 It's so absolutely integral to the health and well-being of ourselves and those around us to practice gratitude.

00:27:58.640 There's so many amazing studies that have been done, by the way, like not just when we practice gratitude, when we see other people, in fact, I think they've shown it's even more powerful if you watch other people be grateful to other people.

00:28:11.640 Like if you're just a fly on the wall and you watch some person help an old lady across the street with her groceries, that in and of itself, and you see that old lady grateful to that person, it changes you inside.

00:28:22.640 Like it's incredible, right?

00:28:24.640 That's quite a line that he has there that you delivered of, I used to think it made me ambitious.

00:28:30.640 Ambitious, yeah.

00:28:31.640 And then I realized I was just ungrateful.

00:28:33.640 Wow.

00:28:34.640 Yeah.

00:28:35.640 And that, when I read the script and when I was, I mean, that was me.

00:28:38.640 That was me tapping into a lot of my own issues with that because obviously we all want to go do well in this world and we want to be ambitious and you want to be successful.

00:28:47.640 There's nothing wrong with any of those things.

00:28:49.640 But if you're not looking at what's right in front of you, right in front of you, right in that moment and being present with that and being grateful for that.

00:28:58.640 And because of that, because he was struggling and feeling like he's failing.

00:29:02.640 Well, when you feel like you're failing, it's very difficult to be grateful for what you've got in front of you because you feel like none of it is good.

00:29:08.640 And so they make you, they make you write the lists.

00:29:10.640 Now people like keep a gratitude journal where you must write down three things a day is the ideal that you're grateful for.

00:29:16.640 It's just, it's the whole exercise of it.

00:29:18.640 Yeah.

00:29:19.640 But I think it's, it's interesting that you, you're feeling emotional as, as you're discussing this because when I read your bio and read up on you in advance of today, you know, the last time we didn't do that.

00:29:28.640 I just thought you were an interesting actor who was getting kind of political and that was interesting, but you, you're interesting.

00:29:35.640 You've had quite a background and I'm now having gotten to know you a little bit better.

00:29:40.640 It's no, it's no mystery at all to me why you've chosen the projects that you've chosen or why you're doing so well with them or why you feel emotional now discussing it because you have had your own lifetime of struggles.

00:29:53.640 Yeah.

00:29:54.640 And it's probably what drove you into acting at like a, for many reasons.

00:29:57.640 And it's what it was, it's what led to your initial frustration in choosing a profession, which is overloaded with rejection.

00:30:04.640 Yeah.

00:30:05.640 Right.

00:30:06.640 And I'm sure there's still some of it now, but the whole journey makes a lot more sense to me.

00:30:10.640 I mean, yeah, there's, there's, there's no coincidences, right?

00:30:14.640 Like God's using all things.

00:30:16.640 And I really do feel though, as a, at a very young age for three or four years old, I knew that I was going to be an actor.

00:30:23.640 Really?

00:30:24.640 I knew it.

00:30:25.640 I knew it in my knowing.

00:30:26.640 It's like the closest thing I can, I can paint as a picture is imagine when we're with God at source in heaven, you know, where, whatever that other place is.

00:30:39.640 Imagine like there's some kind of mission select screen that we're looking at, like an options of what is the life that my soul is going to go live or something.

00:30:48.640 And as a part of that, there's like stipulations, like, okay, you go choose this path.

00:30:53.640 And part of that path is you're going to be an actor and that's going to be a part of the journey that you're going to be on.

00:30:57.640 And that's going to, and I also felt very called from very, very young age to be a leader and to love people and to like affect positive change in this world and build community.

00:31:07.640 Like I felt these things in me, I couldn't articulate them in words that would probably make any sense.

00:31:12.640 Cause I didn't have a vocabulary at that time, but the knowing in knowing in my knowing and my soul and my purpose and my calling, like I felt these things.

00:31:21.640 And so I think that was helped along certainly by being the middle boy between two girls in a house that was full of a lot of trauma and me just trying to find an identity and a voice in all of it.

00:31:32.640 Also very early on, I, knowing people, knowing, like feeling, you know, having a deep empathy for people, feeling them and how they reacted to things.

00:31:42.480 I knew that a smiling, laughing person felt good on the inside.

00:31:47.460 And, you know, like I was tuning into that very young and I was like, Oh, okay, wait a minute.

00:31:50.840 Well, I know how to make people smile and laugh.

00:31:52.940 I do a little joke.

00:31:54.180 I do a little dance.

00:31:55.040 I do a little funny impersonation or whatever.

00:31:57.560 And I can evoke these responses and making people feel good was like, Oh my God, that's the drug I've been addicted to my whole life.

00:32:04.080 No, I read, this is, I think from your book about, you're talking about how in your, with your mom and the glass of water, can you tell that story about how you just picture a glass of water condensing on the countertop?

00:32:16.220 Yeah. So my mom, God rest her soul, was a really a wonderful, dynamic, beautiful, intelligent, like wickedly intelligent human being who also dealt with tons of unhealed trauma.

00:32:30.560 And that led her down a road that I think brought upon probably like borderline personality with narcissistic tendencies.

00:32:39.140 And that's a very difficult burden for people to handle.

00:32:42.300 I, this might sound strange, but like, I actually have a lot of empathy for narcissists.

00:32:46.380 They're some of the most destructive people in the world, but that's because they're some of the most destroyed people down inside of themselves.

00:32:52.380 But my mom, as a borderline personality, specifically her moods were always what ruled the moment.

00:33:00.640 So if my mom was in a good mood and I did something wrong, I broke a glass, you know, something that was sitting on the counter and I accidentally knocked it over shattered.

00:33:08.460 If she's in a good mood and she's rocking out and she's listening to like Bon Jovi or Journey or, you know, the stuff that she would be in a good mood, she'd be like, oh man.

00:33:16.620 And, you know, and she'd, okay, what happened?

00:33:18.200 And, you know, but it would be okay.

00:33:20.320 Unfortunately, mom was not in that mood more often than not.

00:33:22.740 And it got worse and worse through her alcoholism and through a lot of other just unhealed trauma.

00:33:26.460 And so you knocked that same glass off of the counter and it is, how dare you, you little shit.

00:33:32.400 You know, like the fangs and the claws and everything would come out because that's what she learned from her mom.

00:33:37.280 And that's what she learned from somebody, her mom or dad or, you know, this generational trauma.

00:33:41.900 And so.

00:33:42.780 You kind of learned, you said that, like, you believed if I could just be better, if I could just be a more perfect boy, then I could please her.

00:33:51.460 Yeah, kind of.

00:33:52.440 I mean, but it wasn't, I don't think it ever felt like if I could be more perfect, it was more just like you start to learn, okay, this is my reality.

00:34:00.760 How do I navigate it?

00:34:02.640 And my mom and stepdad both had kind of impossible.

00:34:06.580 My dad, my biological father, who's also passed away and I love him, but we didn't really have a lot of a relationship.

00:34:13.660 I grew up with my mom and my stepdad, both of them heavily traumatized people.

00:34:17.500 My stepdad was super traumatized in the ways of having thresholds that were like impossible to hit, like a bar that you could never, never really get to.

00:34:25.820 Very, very, very high standards.

00:34:27.300 And so that became this mission of how do I navigate that while simultaneously navigating a target that's constantly moving.

00:34:36.000 It's one thing to have.

00:34:37.200 Very destabilizing.

00:34:37.760 Yeah.

00:34:38.300 You know, you can have a bar.

00:34:39.580 Like if both parents had this impossible bar, you know, okay, well, it's just, then it's like perfection, perfection.

00:34:44.080 You got to get up there.

00:34:44.640 You got to go do that thing.

00:34:45.420 But with my mom, there would be these moments of really beautiful love and grace with the thing.

00:34:50.280 It's like, it's okay.

00:34:50.920 Don't worry about it.

00:34:52.380 And there's where the target is.

00:34:53.540 You're like, okay, I think I'm safe.

00:34:54.820 I guess I'm okay.

00:34:55.720 And then the next day it'd be like, I can't.

00:34:57.480 And you're like, whoa, whoa, the whiplash of it all.

00:34:59.780 So then, you know, as a child, you just start to literally, you know, teach yourself or learn ways to navigate that minefield.

00:35:07.160 And it's a difficult minefield.

00:35:08.760 Certainly there was the perfectionism on the other side of things.

00:35:11.180 And me, that all kind of became conflated in and of itself.

00:35:15.220 It was gnarly.

00:35:16.100 It was a gnarly experience.

00:35:17.680 But I will say, none of that, and many people deal with very similar experiences.

00:35:22.840 None of that makes me a victim.

00:35:24.560 None of that makes me absolved from my stupid behavior that comes out of my trauma.

00:35:30.480 We are all responsible for healing our trauma and responsible for the actions that come out of that.

00:35:36.120 I think the problem starts getting into where we start throwing blame and shame and guilt on people.

00:35:41.160 It's like, you should know better.

00:35:42.280 Well, I think it's interesting just as an explanation of your life's choices and of how difficult it must have been for you in the earlier, leaner years of being an actor.

00:35:52.960 You know, because, like, that you chose a profession that is also destabilizing, not predictable, full of rejection, and difficult personalities, and probably a fair amount of mental illness, let's be honest.

00:36:06.340 Oh, yeah.

00:36:06.960 Rampant.

00:36:07.280 That's very interesting.

00:36:08.620 Rampant.

00:36:09.040 You know how they say you marry the best and worst qualities of your parents?

00:36:12.420 Yeah.

00:36:12.780 It's like kind of what you did in your job choice.

00:36:15.020 100%.

00:36:15.340 But again, like I said, I don't think anything's wasted on God.

00:36:18.740 I think that's all kind of part of it.

00:36:20.880 You know, our job in all of it is to make sure that we become aware of that, aware of what we need to work on in ourselves, but know that God's still going to use your trauma and redeem that.

00:36:29.320 I learned so much by growing up in my home with my mom and my stepfather.

00:36:35.280 I got tools that people who grow up in really loving homes may never, ever have.

00:36:40.040 That's right.

00:36:40.540 You know, so I see the silver lining in that, which is, again, doesn't excuse any of that, but he goes, okay, all right, what was God doing in all of that?

00:36:46.380 Why did I choose to go and have this experience in this household if my mission in life or my calling was to go and be this actor?

00:36:54.600 Well, shocker, all of that led me to better understanding, again, in the midst of a lot of it, before I went through the healing that I did, I got knocked around by Hollywood.

00:37:06.060 Even now, there are things that, you know, can be destructive.

00:37:09.820 But I have worked on myself so much that I can see those who are the traumatizers in my industry and be like, oh, man, they're just lost.

00:37:17.260 They're lost in that.

00:37:18.540 And I want better for them.

00:37:20.160 But simultaneously, I'm not going to sit around waiting for my industry to become somehow saved.

00:37:24.820 I'm going to go – I've been very actively trying to build an independent movie studio, living community for people in my industry to be able to go create art and content and entertainment that is not being scrambled and infused with nonsense agenda.

00:37:42.720 Just make great entertainment for the masses of all –

00:37:46.120 The way Hollywood used to.

00:37:47.040 The way it used to be and also simultaneously, if I'm going to go build a studio to go do that and accomplish that mission, well, let's go build a living community into it all so we can give people better lives because we all deserve that too.

00:38:00.120 And I think that there are people –

00:38:01.380 You have to get out of California.

00:38:02.440 Well, I did.

00:38:02.880 I went to Austin.

00:38:03.500 Yeah.

00:38:03.720 Yeah, I'm in Austin, Texas.

00:38:05.120 Well, that's an interesting pivot point in your life when you moved to Austin because your career was going well.

00:38:09.880 You had started in two series.

00:38:11.140 You had done multiple projects.

00:38:12.840 You moved to Austin, which everybody loves.

00:38:14.780 We were just talking with another guest who moved to Austin and loved it.

00:38:18.880 But it didn't start off that way.

00:38:21.960 When you got down there, that was sort of your crisis point where you really thought about ending it all despite the fact that you had already starred in TV series, on primetime television.

00:38:31.340 Like many actors, I think you found, it wasn't the holy grail.

00:38:35.040 It wasn't going to fill up everything.

00:38:37.160 And you got very, very low.

00:38:39.320 So you mentioned this last time we were together.

00:38:40.860 We didn't have a lot of time to talk about it.

00:38:42.300 But can you just talk about how that hit you and how you then got out of that?

00:38:47.340 Because that was before Shazam.

00:38:49.320 Yeah, it was right before Shazam.

00:38:50.480 Yeah, so I mean, you know, like the bottom line is I was, like most people, doing what a therapist once told me, a lot of hit and run.

00:39:05.500 Meaning, you're not the one doing the hitting, but you are the one doing the running.

00:39:09.320 So you get hit with trauma.

00:39:11.160 You get hit with – and trauma, there's a spectrum of trauma, right?

00:39:14.500 So I know people – a lot of people like to throw it around like, oh, I've been traumatized and they're not or whatever.

00:39:19.540 You know, but PTSD in war, PTSD kind of stuff is one end of a spectrum of very intense trauma.

00:39:25.940 There's traumas all the way across the board.

00:39:28.120 You know, mental health is like dental health.

00:39:30.240 You know, you can have a little cavity.

00:39:31.820 You can need a full-blown root canal.

00:39:33.080 It's all the same type of thing.

00:39:34.520 There's a now famous clip of J.D. Vance and me in 2017 when I did this long profile on him on NBC.

00:39:42.900 It's on YouTube.

00:39:43.440 You can Google it.

00:39:44.280 Everybody's seen it at this point.

00:39:45.460 But where we kick off the interview by me ticking down – raised in a house with domestic abuse, check.

00:39:53.660 Raised in a house with alcoholism, check.

00:39:55.820 Raised in a house with divorce, check.

00:39:57.400 And these are all childhood trauma.

00:39:59.260 Yeah, they are.

00:40:00.040 CTEs, childhood trauma experiences.

00:40:02.280 And he had all of them.

00:40:03.860 I mean, so you're absolutely right.

00:40:06.040 Like trauma, maybe one of those could be mild for somebody, could be severe for another.

00:40:10.280 But a bunch of them in the same family leads to kind of massive trauma that must be dealt with at some point.

00:40:15.960 It must.

00:40:16.440 And unfortunately, most of us are completely unaware that we're carrying this around.

00:40:22.540 We have no idea.

00:40:23.400 Most people are in this world.

00:40:24.560 They're just surviving, right?

00:40:25.900 And we're doing these hit and runs.

00:40:27.100 Things are hitting us and we're just like, all right, got to pick myself up and I got to run.

00:40:30.000 I got to keep going because there's not enough time to sit and wallow in this.

00:40:33.400 There's not enough time.

00:40:34.500 I have to go work.

00:40:35.320 I got to put on the table.

00:40:36.300 I mean, whatever these reasons are, you keep moving forward.

00:40:39.160 There's also a resilience in that.

00:40:40.460 And I think there's something beautiful about the human condition and that we can persevere and we can do these things.

00:40:46.120 But suffice to say, I was heavily traumatized from childhood through my industry, through my own stupid choices, bad relationships, a very short-lived marriage that was unhealthy, that I was an unhealthy person going into to begin with.

00:41:03.780 Um, my mom had died in 2015 and we were, I hadn't spoken, really had a relationship with her in 13 years at the time she did die.

00:41:12.420 And she died tragically, like alone on a bathroom floor from complications of pneumonia.

00:41:18.580 Like there's all these things that just, and you don't, you don't realize how psychologically damaging they can be or emotionally damaging they can be.

00:41:25.400 And I was just trying to keep going, right?

00:41:28.800 Put on that face, be actor guy, go do conventions.

00:41:31.940 I love fans.

00:41:32.880 I love spending time with everybody.

00:41:34.240 You know, I'm just going to keep doing what I do.

00:41:36.120 Completely unaware of just how broken inside that I was and that I did not have much more gas in my tank.

00:41:43.500 And I, with a head full of steam and dreams, after many, many, many years of knowing that I was supposed to go and buy land somewhere like Austin and go build this new Hollywood and save the world and all of the things that I feel like God's put on my heart, that was the driver.

00:41:59.840 That was the last bit of fuel that I had left in me.

00:42:02.180 And it drove me all the way to Austin and I bought my 75 acres and I was like, all right, God, I thought in my hubris, I'm like two years top.

00:42:10.720 So I'm going to build this whole city and all this stuff.

00:42:14.200 That was not the plan.

00:42:16.220 And, but also, but also, so I ended up there and everything, I was like, what have I done?

00:42:21.840 I've blown up my life.

00:42:23.560 I, I, I'm here alone living in an airstream on this land that's 30 minutes outside of Austin.

00:42:30.460 And I, I like, like it was gnarly.

00:42:32.880 And by the way, and simultaneously I thought, and this was a big factor.

00:42:37.220 I think it's worth mentioning.

00:42:38.000 I thought, you know what?

00:42:38.640 I'm also like physically, I got to clean up my body.

00:42:41.160 I stopped drinking.

00:42:42.100 I stopped smoking.

00:42:42.820 I was a pack a day smoker for like 15 years.

00:42:45.360 Like, and that's a lot.

00:42:46.720 Really?

00:42:47.180 Yeah.

00:42:47.500 And I had also had a, uh, an Adderall prescription because I have dealt with ADHD and stuff literally my whole life.

00:42:55.500 I was grateful that my mom never put me on anything when I was a child, because I think it's important to allow a kid to not have to have that type of thing.

00:43:01.880 However, I did find it to help me.

00:43:04.020 The problem was that Adderall, I was depending on too much and cigarettes and not realizing that really what was done at the bottom of it, that's a dopaminergic, uh, dependency.

00:43:15.420 Your dopamine system literally has been hijacked and you need to keep getting dopamine in you just to keep moving forward in life.

00:43:22.260 And I thought in my infinite wisdom, I'm going to cut all this out cold turkey.

00:43:26.800 Oh boy.

00:43:28.760 Holy crap.

00:43:30.360 Combining all that unhealed trauma and all that unhappiness and then literally pulling the rug out from my dopamine system and having no dopamine whatsoever.

00:43:38.540 I fell into the darkest, darkest, darkest, deepest hole that I had ever really been in.

00:43:44.740 And, and I, and I was like, God, I don't want to live anymore.

00:43:47.980 I don't know what to do.

00:43:49.380 I don't even feel like you're real.

00:43:51.020 I don't know where you are.

00:43:52.200 I don't know why you've led me here to die in this darkness.

00:43:54.960 And thank God I had the family and friends and support around me that I needed to just prop me up enough to then go to this three weeks of super intensive life-saving therapy, not too far in Connecticut.

00:44:07.420 And, and it saved my life.

00:44:08.960 It really did.

00:44:09.720 And, but part of what was life-saving about that wasn't just all of this, let's say clinical information that I was getting with lots of different therapists of different backgrounds and ilk.

00:44:19.980 There was this woman, there were, there were women who worked at this place who were companions.

00:44:26.700 They were like these house moms.

00:44:27.840 They, this place was set up for, you know, CEOs that were like.

00:44:31.600 Do you say where you went?

00:44:33.320 Oh yeah.

00:44:33.800 Is it Silver Hill?

00:44:34.720 No, no, no, no.

00:44:35.560 It's, um, um, it's called Privé Swiss.

00:44:38.380 Privé Swiss.

00:44:39.100 Sounds fancy.

00:44:40.400 It does sound fancy.

00:44:41.820 And by the way, and it's expensive.

00:44:43.380 And that's part of why when I came out of there.

00:44:45.640 They all are.

00:44:46.700 Frankly, they all are.

00:44:47.800 But we should change that.

00:44:48.880 Yeah, totally.

00:44:49.480 With, which is what my mission is now is trying to democratize at the very least mental, uh, wellness, you know, mental health services and things so that we can get people, if we can get everybody right in their own heart and mind, they start loving themselves, taking care of themselves, taking care of others.

00:45:05.660 No, I had a loved one go into one of these facilities for over a month and it was completely life changing.

00:45:12.340 Yeah.

00:45:12.680 And, but it was exorbitant.

00:45:14.280 I mean, it was extremely expensive.

00:45:15.820 It was like $80,000.

00:45:18.720 And truly no one can afford that.

00:45:20.560 Nobody can afford that unless they have an extraordinary job.

00:45:22.660 Right.

00:45:22.840 And there's no insurance.

00:45:23.900 People like you and I.

00:45:24.140 There's nothing.

00:45:24.800 Sure.

00:45:25.360 But, but we are a rare amount of people.

00:45:27.420 And again, that's why I say, thank God I had done well enough in my career where I could afford something that was so costly.

00:45:33.680 But there was one woman there, um, who of all of these, these house moms and they would rotate through and they would basically like take care of you because you were so despondent.

00:45:43.920 They couldn't depend on you to even drive yourself to your own appointments.

00:45:46.540 So like they would have these women who were wonderful that were, you know, either wives or mothers or both that were semi-retired who had big hearts and that wanted to help these people get through their treatment.

00:45:56.640 And this woman, she prayed for me every day, even though she wasn't even supposed to, like she would pray for me.

00:46:03.840 Um, wasn't supposed to.

00:46:05.180 Well, yeah.

00:46:06.120 I mean, in the book, I talk about it in the book, but basically, and I understand, by the way, they've also made amendments to their programming because of this and because of the success of it.

00:46:16.660 And I'm very grateful to those folks at Privy Swiss for having seen the efficacy of it, but you know, what they wanted to make sure was that nobody was getting conflicting or contradicting therapy or advice.

00:46:26.360 Right.

00:46:26.600 And sometimes you can go to a therapist that's giving you non-spiritual, just purely clinical advice, but you might have somebody over here in a spiritual sense being like, well, I don't know about that.

00:46:36.180 You know, let's pray through it or let's do whatever.

00:46:37.780 And unfortunately, I do think a lot of people who are spiritual people, Christian people, they still have this weird, like, I don't know about going to therapy because I, all the answers I need are in the Bible.

00:46:47.660 I just pray away all of my issues.

00:46:49.240 I don't think that's how that works.

00:46:51.140 Having gone through it myself, I definitely don't think that's how that works.

00:46:54.320 No, I've been, I went to therapy for years and I had such a great guy.

00:46:57.040 I haven't seen him in a while, but I love him.

00:46:59.320 And he gave me so many useful tools to deal with stress or anything, sadness, conflict.

00:47:06.780 It's just about widening your arsenal.

00:47:09.940 That's what it's about.

00:47:10.740 Yeah, absolutely.

00:47:11.840 And they're all, and they can be very complimentary and as they should be, your spirituality and your spirit and the spiritual wisdoms that are even found in the Bible that are, that are, I think, you know, very much backed up by even a lot of what we're finding in science and clinical science and whatnot.

00:47:23.480 But so because of that, they didn't want anything contradicting itself.

00:47:26.820 So there was kind of a, you know, a rule like, hey, don't get too personal into these types of ways.

00:47:31.420 But this woman saw my heart, she saw who I was, and she is just one of the most wonderful human beings that I've ever met in my entire life.

00:47:40.380 Also a mother.

00:47:42.460 And, and she prayed for me and she prayed me and loved me back to life.

00:47:46.460 Literally, like there was a day that we were, we were driving to one of my, I just got out of one of my appointments and I was just distraught because I felt like I'm getting nowhere.

00:47:57.320 Nothing is happening.

00:47:58.300 I'm still in this darkness.

00:47:59.400 I still feel like I, you know, what's the point in living?

00:48:02.360 And, and she was praying for me and she said, hey, just, just know that, you know, right now I'm technically, I'm not supposed to do this.

00:48:12.460 So I, if you said anything like, you know, I could potentially lose my job.

00:48:17.320 And, and I said, oh my God, I would never say anything.

00:48:19.900 Please don't stop praying for me.

00:48:21.040 You're one of the only things that's still keeping me alive.

00:48:23.940 And I always get emotional at this point.

00:48:25.980 She goes, oh no, of course, of course.

00:48:27.520 And then we drive for a moment longer and then she turns back to me and she says, but also know that I would gladly lose my job for you.

00:48:36.100 Oh, as a kid who didn't realize that the biggest thing that I was struggling through was not loving myself.

00:48:42.460 And the reason why I wasn't loving myself was because I had never really gotten that from my parents.

00:48:46.580 As much as I know they loved me, they were struggling so deeply that they weren't able to model that or show that to me and my sisters, I think in the way that they needed to.

00:48:54.680 And so the thing that I struggled with the most in my life was that I didn't think I was even worthy of that love.

00:49:00.180 And this complete stranger to love me, like, and legitimately love me.

00:49:05.280 It wasn't like, you know, we all tell people, I tell people all the time, I love you, strangers.

00:49:09.700 And I mean it, I mean it, I mean it in the way that I believe God calls us to love, like as deeply as to love our enemy and pray for our persecutor, things we talked about last time.

00:49:17.600 But this woman, like, she was built to be a mom loving energy in that moment absolutely for me.

00:49:29.660 Like if no other, like, oh my God, like legitimately I consider her to be.

00:49:35.680 And so all of that, you know, that's all that came out of me moving to Austin and all of this stuff.

00:49:41.000 And then the irony or not irony, but the kind of amazing way that God works was I was still in this therapy.

00:49:47.440 I was like a week and a half in or two and a half, two and a half, two and a half weeks into my three week course essentially.

00:49:54.720 And I had told my team and in Hollywood, my agents and managers, I was like, guys, I am not good.

00:49:59.020 I am going off grid for three weeks to a month.

00:50:01.260 Like, you know, so if anything comes around, just we're, we're put, you know, hit and pause.

00:50:06.560 Like awesome.

00:50:07.600 Got it.

00:50:08.100 Cool, cool, cool.

00:50:09.820 Two and a half weeks in.

00:50:12.460 Oh, and sorry.

00:50:13.280 And quickly prior to me going to this place, two months prior, I had been offered the opportunity to audition for the role of Shazam.

00:50:20.260 And you declined it.

00:50:21.280 And I declined it because I was like, they're not going to cast me.

00:50:23.300 I'm not, I'm not John Cena.

00:50:24.780 I'm not the rock.

00:50:25.360 I don't know why they're coming after somebody like me.

00:50:27.620 So I was like, thanks, but no thanks.

00:50:28.860 And I passed again, not knowing that I was in.

00:50:31.260 A really low place of self-esteem and not believing in myself or whatever.

00:50:34.380 So now two and a half weeks into therapy, I get this email from my agent or somebody who's like, I don't want to bother you.

00:50:40.120 I don't want to bother you.

00:50:40.940 But there's another role.

00:50:41.940 There's a supporting role.

00:50:43.280 Very small, like one scene read if you're feeling up to it, but no pressure.

00:50:48.020 Oh, yeah.

00:50:48.540 Okay.

00:50:49.180 So that's a great place to leave this conversation on the back end.

00:50:52.780 We'll pick it up.

00:50:53.860 That's a tease as we call it in the news biz.

00:50:56.120 We'll take a break more on that story and on Zach right after this.

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00:52:32.120 Last we left off, we were in Connecticut.

00:52:40.160 We were in Connecticut.

00:52:40.560 We were in the therapy place.

00:52:42.500 And you're doing well.

00:52:43.560 You're two and a half weeks into it.

00:52:44.660 You'd already rejected Shazam only because, not because you were too big for Shazam.

00:52:47.840 Well, the audition for, not an offer for.

00:52:49.500 Yeah, yeah, because you didn't think you were going to get it.

00:52:52.180 You thought this was kind of like a chain jerk.

00:52:54.160 Yeah.

00:52:54.460 So now they come to you two and a half weeks into this Connecticut facility.

00:52:57.640 Exactly.

00:52:58.440 And they, it's a supporting role.

00:53:01.000 It's one scene.

00:53:02.540 And that day, I just happened to, it was a Wednesday.

00:53:06.080 And I just happened to have had the first breakthrough moment where I could see some light at the end of the tunnel.

00:53:11.620 And I see this message.

00:53:13.720 I'm like, this is so silly.

00:53:15.700 Like, I'm supposed to be here and doing this healing.

00:53:17.760 But, but I do believe that that was all meant to be.

00:53:21.140 My agent was supposed to send that because I see this and I'm like, I'm starting to feel a little bit better about myself.

00:53:26.760 I'm confident enough to maybe, you know, put myself on tape for this thing.

00:53:29.340 I go, when did they need this by?

00:53:30.680 And he says, by Friday.

00:53:31.380 So I give myself a couple more days to just, just to see, like, am I starting to stand back up again?

00:53:37.540 Am I starting to feel myself again?

00:53:39.340 And I was, I was feeling stronger.

00:53:41.460 And so I said, you know what?

00:53:43.180 Screw it.

00:53:43.900 Whatever.

00:53:44.520 I, I went to the gym.

00:53:45.980 I came back from the gym.

00:53:47.040 It was in my, my room.

00:53:48.360 I propped my phone up on the dresser, whatever, with a book, you know?

00:53:52.640 This is crazy.

00:53:53.440 And I did one take and I sent one take of this other role.

00:53:56.720 And hours later, I'm, my phone's blowing up and my agent's like, dude, not only did they love your read, but they also think you might be right for Shazam, which they have not cast yet.

00:54:06.360 And I'm in therapy, finishing up, wrapping up this therapy.

00:54:09.100 I'm like, what is happening right now?

00:54:11.040 And so then I had to explain, like, they were like, you got to get on a plane.

00:54:13.660 You got to come back to LA.

00:54:14.520 I was like, I'm not getting on a plane and coming back to LA.

00:54:16.240 I still have a week of like the follow-up, like homework, like all of this stuff.

00:54:21.120 Like I'd done the bulk of the therapy I needed to do, but there was still.

00:54:24.560 They do give you tools to sail away with.

00:54:26.000 Yes.

00:54:26.300 And I was already picking up these tools along the way, but still, it's like, you wanted to have that last week of like saying your goodbyes and getting the last bits.

00:54:32.620 I'm like, dude, I can't.

00:54:33.660 I'm in fact, part of the reason why I'm here is because of that industry.

00:54:36.660 I can't just go do that.

00:54:38.440 And he's like, okay, I get it.

00:54:39.860 Let me go talk to, let me go talk to Warner Brothers.

00:54:42.280 And he comes back and he says, okay, would you do a camera test?

00:54:48.140 But like, we can do it through basically iPads, through Skype.

00:54:51.860 What?

00:54:52.220 So from therapy on Monday, then I had a conversation with the director over the weekend.

00:54:56.660 I explained the situation.

00:54:57.620 I was like, I can't put myself on tape reading these scenes.

00:55:00.880 I can't do these with my, with my, you know, with my psych, psychiatrist.

00:55:05.620 With Beth?

00:55:05.880 Like, who's going to read off of me?

00:55:07.100 Yes, with Beth?

00:55:08.820 Beth actually probably could have done it.

00:55:10.120 But again, you want, you know, and I'm like, I don't know.

00:55:11.720 So we decided we're going to do this Skype, you know, video camera test through the iPads.

00:55:16.740 I did that on Monday.

00:55:18.020 Monday evening rolls around, phones blowing up.

00:55:20.180 What?

00:55:20.780 Dude, it's between you and another guy.

00:55:22.840 If you don't come, he's going to get it.

00:55:24.060 If you do come, there's a really good chance that you might get this role.

00:55:26.340 And I went downstairs, it was, it was Monday evening.

00:55:29.340 I went downstairs and there was Beth, Beth in the book.

00:55:31.960 That's her name in the book.

00:55:33.160 Yeah.

00:55:33.180 She's the one who prayed for you.

00:55:34.180 Yes.

00:55:34.820 And Beth happened to be working that evening shift.

00:55:36.960 And I go, Beth, I don't know what to do here because I can't tell if this is God.

00:55:44.140 Like this is, this is the fruit of having done the work that I needed to do and God calling

00:55:48.540 me into this.

00:55:49.320 Or if this is the darkness.

00:55:51.340 Is it the devil?

00:55:52.040 I know it could be.

00:55:52.820 Come back to Hollywood, Zach.

00:55:54.400 We've got a prime role for you.

00:55:56.220 You know, like whatever.

00:55:57.080 I'm like, what is happening?

00:55:58.360 This is a big decision.

00:55:59.420 It is.

00:55:59.660 It's huge.

00:56:00.400 And so I go, I go downstairs and I go, I don't know what to do.

00:56:02.980 And she's like, let's pray about it.

00:56:03.960 So we prayed about it.

00:56:04.760 And we came, we both came out of that prayer and we looked at each other and we're like,

00:56:09.000 I think I'm supposed to do this.

00:56:11.440 And not because it was this amazing feel good.

00:56:15.720 Oh, go do Shazam.

00:56:16.900 It was actually because we felt peace.

00:56:19.580 It was just peace.

00:56:20.780 And I think that's what we're all looking for all the time.

00:56:22.900 And that's where we know we're on the right path.

00:56:24.700 If you're on, if you're on a path, a path that is surrounding you in peace, that's a

00:56:29.640 real good side that God is like, I'm right there with you, you know, which is not to say

00:56:34.640 that God is not with us when we're not feeling peace.

00:56:36.860 Cause sometimes that's very much the situation that we're in.

00:56:39.200 Sometimes you need to feel unsettled as a cue that you're not on the right path.

00:56:42.560 Exactly.

00:56:43.060 Exactly.

00:56:43.500 Your spidey sense is going on.

00:56:44.580 But in this case, it was all about that peace.

00:56:46.620 And so I call my agent and I, and also I went to the, the Heidi who ran the organization.

00:56:52.480 I was like, Hey, I need you to go to all of my therapists of which they were myriad.

00:56:57.580 And I need you to make sure that they all sign off that I'm good enough and healthy enough

00:57:01.220 to go and do this because if any of them says no, then I need to listen to that and

00:57:06.420 do whatever I need to do to make sure.

00:57:08.020 And she went to everybody and they all said, you know, check.

00:57:10.840 He's good.

00:57:11.420 You can go.

00:57:11.900 And so I flew to LA, I camera tested on Wednesday, Thursday was off.

00:57:19.420 And then Friday I got a phone call and I was Shazam.

00:57:21.160 Do you remember which scene they made you do?

00:57:22.920 It was three scenes.

00:57:23.980 It was one where I saved Mary.

00:57:27.020 She's like walking across the street absentmindedly in a snowplow almost hits her and kills her.

00:57:31.000 And I go save her as, you know, as grown up Billy Shazam.

00:57:34.840 Another one was the one between me and Freddie that you saw in the clip of me.

00:57:38.160 I don't even know how to pee in this thing.

00:57:39.500 And then I can't remember what the third one was, but, you know, they were very much the

00:57:44.780 scenes that were in the movie.

00:57:45.960 And so set the stage for us since nobody listening, virtually nobody has auditioned to star in

00:57:51.280 a Hollywood movie, much less a superhero movie.

00:57:56.240 What size is the room?

00:57:57.440 How many people are in there?

00:57:58.440 You're walking in.

00:57:59.120 You've just come out of therapy from this intensive program.

00:58:02.580 You land, like, is it an intimidating setting or how is it?

00:58:05.120 Well, fortunately with film camera testing and things like that, it's not normally a

00:58:09.440 big, like, you know, peanut gallery of people.

00:58:11.980 You've got the director, you've got, you know, whoever's operating the camera, you might have

00:58:16.100 some other technicians, the casting director.

00:58:19.220 It's not a whole-

00:58:20.300 Who's more important in that setting, the director or the casting director?

00:58:22.520 No, the director for sure.

00:58:23.480 Okay.

00:58:23.680 Yeah.

00:58:23.860 Because, but the casting director, if they're doing their job well, they're bringing in

00:58:27.180 all of these options for the director to see, but at the end of the day, it's the

00:58:29.740 director's choice.

00:58:30.540 Okay.

00:58:30.760 And then obviously the executives getting to watch whatever that camera test is, because

00:58:35.100 that's why they're filming it.

00:58:35.920 So they can go show the executives and get approval there too.

00:58:39.920 Ironically with network television, although it's, I don't know what it is now, but when

00:58:43.240 I was coming up in television, which was the beginning of my career, 98 through, you know,

00:58:47.640 2012, really, that was way more difficult because with network television, in order to get a role

00:58:53.500 on a show or whatever, you got to go through all, you got to go audition for the casting

00:58:57.360 director, then the producers, then you go to the studio executives and they're a, literally

00:59:02.100 like you're packed into a room.

00:59:03.840 There's 20 executives sitting in their arms crossed being like, all right, monkey, make

00:59:07.460 me laugh, you know?

00:59:08.320 Oh yeah.

00:59:09.000 And then if you pass that, you go to the network and the network is all the network

00:59:12.100 executives and some of the studio executives and the producers and the casting directors.

00:59:16.000 And you're just like, Oh my God.

00:59:17.940 And people, it's horrifying.

00:59:19.240 It is.

00:59:19.700 It is horrifying.

00:59:20.420 It is a traumatic experience.

00:59:21.620 I think a lot of times, a lot of it now is done by like people put themselves on tape themselves

00:59:26.160 and they send those, those in, but you know, it was, it was fascinating because there were

00:59:29.620 a lot of people who would just crack under the pressure, great actors that would have

00:59:32.400 been great on set, but they couldn't do that, that cause it's gnarly.

00:59:36.040 And then there were some people that were really good at doing a network test, but you get them

00:59:39.900 onto a set, they don't know how to build a character.

00:59:42.240 They don't know how to be in a scene.

00:59:43.400 They don't have those particular, you know, skillsets.

00:59:46.080 So it was a very interesting process.

00:59:48.180 All of that was perfect for you.

00:59:49.040 Cause you did have a background in being funny.

00:59:50.840 I mean, in acting in a, you know, listen, I had a lot, a lot of background doing lots.

00:59:56.140 It's a theater my whole life.

00:59:57.680 And in theater, you are, you know, things are much bigger and broader and I did musicals

01:00:02.500 and musical comedies and, you know, uh, all kinds of stuff.

01:00:05.860 I have a child playing Ursula in the eighth grade play.

01:00:08.780 Do you?

01:00:09.380 Coming up, coming up.

01:00:10.580 Poor unfortunate souls.

01:00:12.500 Oh my God.

01:00:13.020 I bet that song is in my head nonstop right now.

01:00:14.820 It's a great song.

01:00:15.620 It's amazing.

01:00:16.220 It's a banger.

01:00:17.100 But yeah, so big things are happening in our house too.

01:00:18.840 Yeah.

01:00:20.120 We haven't put her through quite that level of scrutiny yet.

01:00:22.720 Yeah.

01:00:22.800 So you do it.

01:00:24.060 And then how, how soon thereafter they, do they tell you you got it?

01:00:26.700 I mean, it was, so from the time I did the first audition for the other role to the time

01:00:31.020 I was Shazam was one week.

01:00:32.560 Wow.

01:00:32.980 It was one week.

01:00:33.500 My whole life changed in one week, not just because of, but very much because of the therapy

01:00:40.160 that I went and did the work I needed to do on myself.

01:00:43.120 Talk about getting an instant return on your investment.

01:00:44.700 Megan, let me tell you what.

01:00:47.140 Like God is no, God, when you really commit to doing something in your life and now this

01:00:53.800 has happened multiple times over my life, I might be struggling with something, something

01:00:56.640 I'm screwing around with cigarettes, booze, girls, whatever it is.

01:00:59.040 And I'm like, I, these are distracting me from my purpose and my goal.

01:01:03.520 God does not wait for you to prove it to him after.

01:01:07.820 Well, let's see how you, let's see if you hold onto this for six months.

01:01:10.340 Cause God knows when you mean it.

01:01:12.560 So if you, in that moment, be like, I mean this, I'm not going to go pick that up.

01:01:16.220 God's like, Oh, okay.

01:01:17.600 Yeah, you do me.

01:01:18.400 I got you.

01:01:18.900 And so here come those blessings because at the end of the day, I think that God absolutely

01:01:22.700 has tremendous amounts of gifts and blessings that he wants to bestow upon us.

01:01:26.880 It's not that God is like holding it back because, Oh, you know, it God's, I don't believe

01:01:32.040 in this God, the taskmaster, you know, naughty and nice list and whatever all that nonsense

01:01:37.460 is.

01:01:37.880 And, you know, holding all of this against us.

01:01:39.940 God's love for us is immense.

01:01:41.300 And God is looking at us.

01:01:42.420 Like we would look at our children who are like, give me the bigger toy.

01:01:46.600 And it's like, well, you can't even hold the little toy.

01:01:49.320 So if you show me, you can hold the little toy.

01:01:51.320 And you know, if you, if you can show me, you can pick up that five pound dumbbell, then

01:01:54.600 I'll give you a 10 and then I can give you a 20 and then I can give you a 50.

01:01:57.900 It is like the way we look at our, our children with the most generous lens and very quick to

01:02:02.140 forgive.

01:02:02.800 Absolutely.

01:02:03.400 Absolutely.

01:02:03.720 And as soon as our child shows that they're responsible enough to level up to whatever this

01:02:07.620 new cool thing would be driving a car, whatever it is, we want to be able to say, yes.

01:02:13.260 Oh my God.

01:02:13.660 By the way, we're stoked because we see the responsibility growing in them, that they are

01:02:17.700 maturing, that we are maturing.

01:02:19.380 I think when God looks at us and sees us wanting to mature, God's like, oh, praise.

01:02:24.140 Yes.

01:02:24.520 Because look at all of these other things that I wanted to give you, but I've had to, I

01:02:28.440 couldn't because he would, they would crush you.

01:02:30.580 You know, I think that every gift and every blessing comes with power.

01:02:34.580 Literally the money we're given, the resources we're given.

01:02:37.620 The relationships that we're given, the careers that we're given.

01:02:40.020 All of that comes with power.

01:02:41.300 Gifting blessing comes with power.

01:02:42.620 And if we've learned nothing else from Spider-Man, it's with great power comes great responsibility.

01:02:46.760 And it's true.

01:02:48.000 If you want those gifts, then you have to be ready for the power that comes with the

01:02:51.200 responsibility.

01:02:52.080 So what, what year is this?

01:02:53.740 Like what point in time is this?

01:02:54.980 So now you've got, you've gotten cast and you're going to start shooting.

01:02:57.180 Shazam.

01:02:57.640 That was, uh, that was, uh, October of 2017.

01:03:03.260 So I had just moved to Austin.

01:03:05.020 I had just had a breakdown.

01:03:06.220 I just went to therapy.

01:03:07.820 And then this, by the way, I thought my chance of being a superhero were well in the rear

01:03:12.260 view mirror.

01:03:12.800 I was already nearly 40 years old at that point.

01:03:15.840 And I had gotten to play a, the smaller role in the Thor franchise, but it didn't really

01:03:20.260 do much.

01:03:20.860 I was like, all right, I guess that was, if I got one chip and I was very grateful for

01:03:24.540 that too.

01:03:24.940 Like I got to be in that world, but I was like, I guess that was the chip that I played

01:03:28.980 and I didn't, Hollywood wasn't banking down my door.

01:03:31.500 So yeah, it was crazy for that to all happen as quickly as it did.

01:03:34.460 So that's seven and a half years ago.

01:03:36.340 And since then it's been just nonstop, right?

01:03:38.620 I mean, it's just been, it seems like you've been on a tear.

01:03:41.000 I, yeah.

01:03:41.800 I mean, listen, it all depends on who you're talking to.

01:03:44.600 Like I have been super blessed that I, yes, I continue to go on a tear and continue to

01:03:48.920 work and be working on projects that I'm, I am very proud of and grateful to be doing

01:03:52.760 the, you know, Shazam as a franchise, the first one did pretty well.

01:03:57.340 The second one didn't, right?

01:03:58.600 So did those, it did all of a sudden the, the magical doors of Hollywood burst open and

01:04:04.980 everyone, you know, I got Spielberg being like, get Zachary Levi on the line.

01:04:07.680 We got an Oscar, an Oscar performance we did in four, like, cause that's what he talks

01:04:10.840 like.

01:04:11.760 Everyone's from the 1930s in Hollywood.

01:04:13.300 But so, you know, no, those, those phone car calls weren't rolling in, but it's all

01:04:22.600 good.

01:04:22.900 Like I, but you're a working actor doing great projects on the big screen.

01:04:26.620 Like, like my dreams continue to be fulfilled every single day.

01:04:30.040 Why did Bill Maher think that you'd been canceled when you went on with him in December?

01:04:33.600 Well, I mean, because I jokingly, when I got, I, as you pointed out earlier, I was supporting

01:04:40.620 Bobby Kennedy, then the miracle in Butler and a bullet that would have changed the history

01:04:46.620 of the world.

01:04:47.620 Speaking of God.

01:04:48.180 Oh my God, God.

01:04:49.900 Yes.

01:04:50.280 And, but because of that, then I think the humility that started to run in, in Donald

01:04:54.220 Trump in a way that I don't know that even existed prior to that and him reaching out

01:04:57.660 to Bobby and creating this alliance.

01:04:59.720 And then I go and I'm like, okay, I guess I'm, I'm going to, I'm on the Trump train now,

01:05:03.600 you know, one that I was never on prior, but one that I knew I needed to go beyond because

01:05:07.460 of the state of everything and the team that he was collecting.

01:05:09.720 And so Tulsi had reached out to me and was like, Hey, I'm doing, we're doing this town

01:05:14.300 hall with Bobby.

01:05:14.900 Why did she reach out to you?

01:05:15.640 Did she see that you were an RFKJ supporter?

01:05:16.760 We had run it.

01:05:17.800 We had a mutual friend that introduced us.

01:05:19.800 I, this, uh, a trainer, like a physical, uh, you know, a Pete, like a, you know, trainer

01:05:24.180 at the gym that I knew from a gym here in New York who moved to Austin.

01:05:27.840 And we, I said, Hey, would you come in?

01:05:29.760 You know, I want to do a workout.

01:05:31.000 She's like, cool.

01:05:31.800 So, so we do a workout and we're talking about the state of the world.

01:05:34.000 And I'm like, Oh man, that Tulsi Gabbard.

01:05:35.440 I think she's the bee's knees.

01:05:36.420 And she's like, I know Tulsi.

01:05:37.420 I go train Tulsi sometimes I go, Oh, wow.

01:05:39.400 I'd love to meet her someday.

01:05:40.560 Cut to a week later.

01:05:41.340 We're sitting down and we're all having coffee and I'm telling her, I think you're awesome.

01:05:44.200 I love what you stand for.

01:05:45.540 I love that you have the balls to have been Democrat your entire career, but recognize

01:05:50.800 that the party has been lost.

01:05:52.100 The, the, the, the values that it once held a lot of values that I even agree with have

01:05:56.660 been lost.

01:05:57.160 And you see that those values have transferred over here and you're supporting Trump.

01:06:00.240 I'm like, that's amazing.

01:06:01.080 I love all that.

01:06:02.280 And I share all these same concerns and I want to be able to help in all of this, but I'm not

01:06:06.160 sure what to do because I'm in Hollywood and that's a wacky thing.

01:06:09.860 She's like, I get it.

01:06:11.120 Get kicked out.

01:06:11.700 And like a week later, I get a text or a week or two.

01:06:14.540 I don't know what it was.

01:06:15.520 And Tulsi says, listen, we're on the campaign trail for Trump.

01:06:18.920 We're on the campaign trail supporting Trump, me and Bobby doing town halls.

01:06:23.860 We would love for you to moderate one of those town halls.

01:06:26.420 And I told her, I got to think and pray on this because this is really crossing the Rubicon.

01:06:29.740 That is definitely crossing.

01:06:30.420 And, but I, but I did and I felt peace again.

01:06:33.460 I felt peace.

01:06:34.080 I felt peace because I knew that this was more important than saving my career.

01:06:38.900 I think that we too often fall into these, these paradigms, these thought processes of,

01:06:45.560 of self-preservation and it is not good.

01:06:48.120 We need to be wise and we, we want to survive and we want to live and flourish and all those

01:06:51.640 things, but we can't merely make decisions off of, well, I hope nothing bad happens to me.

01:06:55.960 No, no, that's no way to go through life.

01:06:57.380 No, I've told the audience before when, um, the Trump team asked me to speak to him for

01:07:02.620 him at his last rally before the vote, um, you know, the night before election day, it

01:07:07.940 is not something a journalist would normally do.

01:07:10.500 You know, that is crossing a line that you just don't normally cross.

01:07:13.000 And even this whole show, my, my transformation into more of a pundit at journalist too, but

01:07:17.940 you know, my daily job is more punditry has been an evolution, but that's, that's a bigger

01:07:22.720 line to cross.

01:07:23.740 And I really, same as you, I was like, I don't know if I should cross that.

01:07:26.360 You know, it's like, not because of blowback, but just because it's a before and after moment

01:07:30.000 for me for sure as a journalist.

01:07:31.300 But like you just said, I truly did feel called.

01:07:34.120 Even my husband's like, I don't think you should do it, Meg.

01:07:36.080 Nothing against Trump.

01:07:36.860 He was a Trump supporter, but he's like, you know, you don't, don't want the blowback.

01:07:40.400 It's not a line you have to cross.

01:07:41.780 And I'm like, honey, I got to do it.

01:07:43.360 I don't know why.

01:07:44.880 I just know I do.

01:07:45.740 And I was so glad I did it right.

01:07:48.920 I didn't feel ashamed, bad, um, on, on the precipice of waiting, you know, the, the gunfire

01:07:55.760 that would, you know, the rhetorical, um, I felt totally empowered.

01:07:59.840 And like, I was in exactly the right alignment, you know, whereas I was supposed to be, so I

01:08:03.980 completely relate to what you're saying.

01:08:05.820 But now for me, the blowback would just be mean articles written about me by my fellow

01:08:10.340 people in the press, which I've had millions of for you.

01:08:12.360 It could be that could cost you your career.

01:08:13.980 Potentially at that point, you have to be thinking it could cost me my career.

01:08:16.400 Oh, I did.

01:08:16.800 I thought a lot about that.

01:08:17.860 And I prayed a lot about that.

01:08:18.840 And I knew that I had a child that was, you know, coming in on the way.

01:08:22.060 And because even then my girlfriend and I knew that we were pregnant and I was like,

01:08:25.160 okay, well, what am I doing?

01:08:27.200 Like what, what will all this look like down the road?

01:08:31.340 But again, at the end of the day,

01:08:32.900 first of all, I've known since I was a kid that I was born and called to be a leader.

01:08:38.820 I've known it like, and, and not like, not in weird romantic ways or anything.

01:08:44.020 Like the world needs help and needs help.

01:08:47.480 And the only way to go and help the world is to love the world.

01:08:51.980 Like nobody hating the world is actually going to make it a better place.

01:08:55.140 They're just going to start cutting out the things that they don't like or whatever,

01:08:58.340 and cutting down the people that they don't like.

01:09:00.100 Like, but I really believe that we have to be able to, to see it as a whole and be like,

01:09:04.820 okay, what can we do?

01:09:05.600 How can we be effective change?

01:09:07.160 So I already, already felt that calling on my life.

01:09:09.980 And then when it came to this, I was like, so what am I worried about?

01:09:16.800 Am I worried if I feel like God is calling me to this?

01:09:19.560 And I did, I was like, I think that this is this moment.

01:09:22.360 Cause I was never trying to just like insert myself.

01:09:24.580 I was like, God, if you want me to go and step out in a bigger way, I need you to,

01:09:27.920 I need, you know, give me the call.

01:09:29.500 And the call literally came from Tulsi Gabbard.

01:09:32.140 And, uh, and more than that, I'm very, I very, very much.

01:09:35.840 And I've been preaching for a long time that I think AI is about to destroy my industry.

01:09:39.420 So I was like, so what am I, what am I worried?

01:09:41.980 I know I love Justine Bateman.

01:09:43.580 Oh my God.

01:09:44.420 And, but I was like, so what am I really afraid of at the end of the day?

01:09:48.420 That I'm somehow going to lose jobs in an industry that I already believe is completely

01:09:52.260 falling apart and that won't even be creating jobs for me in a few years anyway.

01:09:56.520 Like, come on, if I lose all of my acting career and I hope I don't.

01:10:00.640 And I, and so far I haven't.

01:10:02.080 And that's why Bill, I think was going back to the original question.

01:10:04.900 He, because I jokingly said at the town hall, I said, you know, look, I, I, this could make

01:10:10.180 me a pariah and you know, I might be.

01:10:12.200 I hereby announce my own cancellation.

01:10:13.860 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:10:14.940 But it was a joke, but a joke knowing what full well that who knows, who knows what the

01:10:18.980 downstream effects would be, but none of that matters.

01:10:22.480 If the world goes off a cliff, what does it matter?

01:10:25.400 You know, that's why I said on the, on the podcast, when I talked to you before, what

01:10:28.340 is it to gain the world, but lose your soul in the process, lose our ability to have liberty,

01:10:33.800 freedom, free speech.

01:10:35.800 Like the things that ironically, the people on the other side are all suggesting that Trump

01:10:40.740 is trying to take away, which I'm like, have you, do you understand free speech?

01:10:45.080 I think a lot of people don't understand free speech that it actually protects hate speech

01:10:48.360 stuff that I don't want anyone to say.

01:10:50.460 I don't want any of that to come out of people's mouths, but in order to hold the concept of

01:10:54.580 free speech, we must protect that it can though.

01:10:56.720 Yes, exactly.

01:10:57.820 You know, and what the ACL use, you used to fight for, which is I defend, yes, yes, because

01:11:04.060 we must, we must hold onto these things.

01:11:05.900 Otherwise democracy are, are, are republic.

01:11:09.160 It all fails.

01:11:10.000 And so it was like, listen, I'm not even giving up my life for that.

01:11:13.620 I, some people have died for that.

01:11:15.440 Many people have died for that.

01:11:16.800 But if anything, my career dies, my acting career that I've been blessed enough to do

01:11:20.740 for 25 years, if that's in the cards for me, then okay, God, if I'm walking with God,

01:11:25.620 God will protect me.

01:11:26.380 I think part of the call that you heard and answered was part of a bigger thing that's

01:11:30.860 happening in the country at the same time, which is more and more people feeling that

01:11:34.940 same connection with Trump, with his message, with what he actually stands for and not what

01:11:39.960 the left says he stands for, just a new, the dawn of a new day in America where we're no

01:11:45.320 longer obsessed with identity politics and dividing each other based on things we can't

01:11:49.440 control about one another.

01:11:50.420 The very foundation of the Civil Rights Act and the 14th Amendment and a lot of things

01:11:54.720 that are foundational to our country's evolution that we've been eschewing for the past decade

01:11:59.900 plus.

01:12:00.940 And Trump got us back to, he said, we're ready.

01:12:04.340 We are ready to go back to our foundational beliefs on not dividing each other like that

01:12:08.520 and having open debates about controversial subjects and listening to a guy like Bobby

01:12:13.040 Kennedy instead of just dismissing him as a kook and listening to Tulsi Gabbard's different

01:12:17.440 views on the Intelligence Committee, even if they're loathed by more Republicans on the

01:12:22.880 panel than they are by the Democrats on the panel.

01:12:25.060 Let's listen.

01:12:26.600 Maybe she's got some good ideas.

01:12:28.100 The whole country was just ready for that, you know, let's, you know, like you do with

01:12:32.720 the Etch-a-Sketch.

01:12:33.600 Let's just, let's just, okay, we need a cleanse.

01:12:35.920 A cleanse and transparency.

01:12:38.940 Like, why anyone?

01:12:40.900 It's very indicative of those who are complicit in the corruption when they are shouting for

01:12:45.840 the rooftops.

01:12:46.920 No transparency.

01:12:48.240 We shouldn't be looking at these things.

01:12:49.760 Look at how we're tearing everything apart.

01:12:51.680 It's like, no.

01:12:52.320 You know, why don't you want to know what's in all of our drugs and food and water and

01:12:56.940 everything?

01:12:57.300 Why don't you want to know that?

01:12:59.440 Yep.

01:13:00.020 You, by the way, we all deserve to know that.

01:13:02.320 These are our leaders.

01:13:03.980 They're public servants.

01:13:05.280 That is their freaking job.

01:13:06.820 Not to tell us what's good for us and what's right.

01:13:09.500 And, oh, you'll know whatever information you need to know.

01:13:12.520 No, no.

01:13:12.980 They seem annoyed that we want to look underneath the hood.

01:13:16.000 They are.

01:13:16.520 And that's why I think a lot of Americans, even people who didn't vote for Trump, his approval

01:13:20.140 ratings are good because they're like, hey, listen, at least the guy's doing what he said

01:13:23.840 he was going to do.

01:13:24.880 And more than that, these were some of the things I was kind of even secretly hoping he

01:13:28.340 was going to do because, damn it, we do deserve to know what's going on.

01:13:32.140 And then that's informed consent.

01:13:33.520 Then I'll know, OK, that's what's in a vaccine.

01:13:35.340 That's what's in this drug.

01:13:36.240 That's what's in my fruit loops.

01:13:37.980 That's what's it.

01:13:38.640 OK, now you're about to give your new baby.

01:13:41.180 Exactly.

01:13:41.540 Like, why wouldn't you want to know what you're giving your new baby?

01:13:43.640 Exactly.

01:13:44.120 And we should be getting into through the Doge of it all.

01:13:47.580 But look, Tulsi, I am so excited for her to be getting into and uncovering all of the

01:13:52.120 secrecy and nonsense and corruption that's been going on in our intelligence agencies.

01:13:55.740 Oh, my God.

01:13:56.460 And everything that's going to be downstream of that, everything that Bobby's doing with

01:13:59.780 HHS.

01:14:00.480 Oh, my God.

01:14:00.940 Amazing.

01:14:02.340 Doge is also a very important part of how we get to the bottom of this.

01:14:06.880 But I've been trying to tell people and I, you know, I've been getting.

01:14:10.020 I was on Jesse Watters the other night trying to unilaterally talk about how we're losing.

01:14:15.440 Yeah.

01:14:15.960 And the people coming up to me saying, oh, you just want Trump voters?

01:14:18.960 I was like, no, I'm listing people.

01:14:19.780 You made a passing comment.

01:14:20.980 You're saying people that we have to keep in mind that good people are losing their jobs.

01:14:23.840 Not everybody should lose their jobs.

01:14:25.220 Yeah.

01:14:25.480 And in an appeal, I think, to Trump, you know, even MAGA people are losing their jobs.

01:14:29.440 Exactly.

01:14:29.840 And then, of course, the left spun that back on you only care about the MAGA people.

01:14:32.680 Yeah.

01:14:33.040 And I'm like, guys, I was listing.

01:14:34.560 That's like saying, you know, if sugary drinks were being taken away and I would be like, guys,

01:14:39.160 he doesn't understand he's losing soda, Diet Coke.

01:14:41.060 I actually thought it was kind of cute that you defended yourself and posted like follow

01:14:44.620 up tweets like, no, that's not what I was doing.

01:14:46.000 I'm well past that point.

01:14:47.100 I'm like, fuck off.

01:14:48.200 Yeah.

01:14:48.480 Listen, which I totally understand.

01:14:51.300 And I don't.

01:14:52.220 They're not honest brokers.

01:14:53.780 They don't actually want to hear any explanation.

01:14:55.480 Understood.

01:14:56.180 But there's a part of me.

01:14:59.100 I don't.

01:15:00.080 When I'm responding to people, I'm actually not.

01:15:02.500 Like, I'm responding to them, but I'm using it as an opportunity to say something important.

01:15:06.280 So it's really just seriously.

01:15:08.660 It's like because there's other people that might be slightly thinking that, but maybe

01:15:12.160 they're not sure and they're looking for clarification.

01:15:14.620 And if I can go and put that out there, all of a sudden somebody's like, oh, OK, you

01:15:18.440 know what?

01:15:18.640 I was I saw this thing and I was kind of like, what the heck?

01:15:21.600 You have a much higher opinion of the dialogue on Twitter on X than I do.

01:15:26.540 I'm like, well, let's go.

01:15:28.060 I almost feel the need to apologize when I say something nice on there.

01:15:30.560 Like, forgive me.

01:15:31.280 I'm just going to I'm going to be nice for a minute.

01:15:32.780 But I really have something lovely to say.

01:15:34.180 I mean, we got Elon has said he wants it to be nicer.

01:15:37.300 Yeah.

01:15:37.720 And I think that that's all of us leading by example.

01:15:39.940 Yeah.

01:15:40.340 And again, it's like it's super easy.

01:15:42.440 I'm not obeying.

01:15:43.060 I get that.

01:15:43.720 But listen, but listen, but that's but that I trust me when I tell you it takes everything

01:15:50.480 in me to not want to just unleash.

01:15:53.560 Right.

01:15:53.960 Because that's what it does.

01:15:54.880 We're all on the other side of this little keyboard, anonymous or not anonymous or whatever

01:15:58.420 it is.

01:15:58.640 But still, you're not talking to that person face to face.

01:16:00.680 No one would ever say the things that they say on Twitter face to face with that person.

01:16:04.060 They wouldn't do it.

01:16:05.520 So it's I have to really my ego wants to be like, boy, destroy.

01:16:10.020 And I go, wait a minute.

01:16:10.960 Wait a minute.

01:16:11.320 Child of God.

01:16:11.880 Child of God.

01:16:12.500 Child of God.

01:16:13.360 Lost.

01:16:14.060 Lost.

01:16:14.880 Misunderstanding.

01:16:15.460 Coming at me with vile.

01:16:17.140 Calling me a Nazi.

01:16:17.880 Whatever it is.

01:16:18.420 Literally.

01:16:18.980 They call me a Nazi.

01:16:20.380 I was like, OK, OK.

01:16:22.420 This person has been programmed to believe these things.

01:16:26.560 They have been lied to by legacy media for far too long.

01:16:29.100 And I cannot take my frustration and anger out on someone who is, by the way, not being

01:16:34.380 responsible with their own reaction.

01:16:35.940 But I can see that.

01:16:37.840 Yeah, I can see that.

01:16:39.080 And so I'm going to try and come in there.

01:16:40.520 I'll come in with a little wink and rub and speak what is true.

01:16:44.340 And then hopefully that message is not just for them.

01:16:46.820 It's for whoever wants to go see it.

01:16:47.940 It's sweet.

01:16:48.380 You're a much sweeter person than I am.

01:16:50.400 I think the audience knows that, though.

01:16:51.940 Now, wait.

01:16:52.680 I know the answer to this.

01:16:54.160 But were you raised Catholic?

01:16:55.700 Christian, yes.

01:16:56.300 But Catholic?

01:16:56.900 I can't remember the denomination.

01:16:58.160 My mom was raised Catholic.

01:16:59.500 OK.

01:17:00.320 And because of that, rebelled big time.

01:17:03.280 Well, you must be feeling pretty good about your decision in the wake of the pope.

01:17:06.860 Have you seen that he's weighing in on Trump's immigration policy?

01:17:10.700 He's in the hospital.

01:17:12.500 Like, he could be dying.

01:17:14.100 But he took a moment to condemn the determination to deport.

01:17:18.440 He seems OK, according to his statement, with those who have committed additional crimes,

01:17:22.820 in addition to being here illegally.

01:17:24.180 But he's really upset about us wanting to deport people who are just here illegally.

01:17:30.240 He seems to want us to believe we have some moral obligation to let them stay in the country.

01:17:34.900 This from a man who lives in the Vatican, which is surrounded by a big, big fence.

01:17:38.700 God bless Pope Francis.

01:17:40.660 I don't wish for anything terrible to happen to him.

01:17:42.500 He is very ill in the hospital right now.

01:17:44.460 But I'm sorry, the nerve.

01:17:46.440 This is not what Catholics need right now, which is to have our, you know, the leader of the church

01:17:51.040 scolding the American president for his immigration policy.

01:17:54.900 This is what makes people dislike religion.

01:17:56.520 Are you Catholic?

01:17:57.240 Yes.

01:17:57.960 Raised Catholic your whole life.

01:17:58.820 Yes, still Catholic.

01:17:59.700 Raising three little Catholics.

01:18:00.840 Look at you.

01:18:01.540 I mean, I almost had my Presbyterian husband over here.

01:18:03.820 I was like pulling him over.

01:18:05.180 He's like, I'm out.

01:18:06.200 I'm out.

01:18:06.500 I think it's the rulers on the knuckles that really scared him away.

01:18:11.800 Listen, I think that unfortunately, while there are immense amounts of wonderful Catholics

01:18:24.660 who really do love God and love their neighbor and want to do good in this world and have

01:18:30.320 been very positively affected through their relationship with God, through the religion

01:18:34.680 of Catholicism, I am not a fan of, of organized religion writ large, which is also not to say

01:18:42.020 that I don't see the benefits that came from building civilization, morality, justice, like,

01:18:47.460 you know, these various laws.

01:18:49.080 I understand that.

01:18:50.300 And, and, and by the way, even like diehard atheists see this, right?

01:18:54.600 There's a lot of people that, that have come around and recognize, like, I don't believe

01:18:57.500 in any of that stuff, but I see the positive value that it's brought to society, civilization

01:19:01.540 writ large.

01:19:01.960 I, I don't know what's going on with the Pope.

01:19:07.540 I don't really keep a lot of tabs.

01:19:09.240 I did see some of this being spoken about.

01:19:12.520 I'm, I'm more concerned with and wondering just how much that role has become influenced

01:19:19.520 by other agenda.

01:19:22.100 I don't know that.

01:19:23.300 Like getting, like getting the Catholic church getting paid to help all these immigrants.

01:19:26.700 There's that.

01:19:27.440 Housing, et cetera.

01:19:28.460 There's, there's that, there's that.

01:19:29.740 But also I.

01:19:30.380 I'm not going to lie.

01:19:30.960 It's made me think twice about putting money in the basket on Sundays.

01:19:33.780 Like, what am I, what exactly am I supporting?

01:19:35.740 But I, but I, but I think there's even unfortunately more, um, more murky waters.

01:19:41.460 Uh, like even when it comes to things like the world economic forum and Davos and all

01:19:48.080 of those people, like the, I don't want to have to think about that crap.

01:19:53.200 You know what I mean?

01:19:53.560 I don't want my church.

01:19:54.520 I know you don't want to have to think about that, but you should think about that.

01:19:57.700 No, I know.

01:19:58.260 We all need to be aware of what is happening in the larger political game that's being

01:20:03.120 played on the earth right now, globally being played on the earth.

01:20:06.260 I find it quite disconcerting that the Pope is about to have a symposium summit about like

01:20:15.800 health and human thriving and inviting people like Dr. Anthony Fauci.

01:20:21.800 I think that is very, and people from the world economic forum and all of this stuff.

01:20:26.560 Now people can call me a conspiracy theorist and wow, you're, you know, your tinfoil hat's

01:20:31.300 too tight or whatever.

01:20:31.900 I don't care guys.

01:20:33.200 Like just go do a little research, dig online, follow the money, do all the things you need

01:20:39.100 to do.

01:20:39.440 There is corruption on the highest level, not just in our country, all around the world.

01:20:44.440 And I don't understand why that would even be going on.

01:20:48.820 I don't understand why the Pope would be like, yeah, you're the people of everything that

01:20:52.540 continues to be revealed.

01:20:53.520 You're the people that should be coming and having this symposium.

01:20:55.560 The Pope's not having any meetings in the short term.

01:20:57.680 I mean, he's actually truly not doing well.

01:20:59.800 So, I mean, I'm, I'm praying for him.

01:21:01.320 I don't want him to die.

01:21:02.580 I don't want anything bad to happen to him, but he's, he's very elderly and this is a serious

01:21:06.000 lung problem.

01:21:06.700 I don't know how this is going to go, but you know, to me, it's actually kind of crazy because

01:21:10.520 we're right in the midst of this Oscar season.

01:21:12.980 One of the films nominated is this conclave, which is absolutely sacrilegious.

01:21:18.040 It's a disgusting film.

01:21:19.220 In my opinion, they make the new Pope, spoiler alert, um, intersex, meaning he has a vagina.

01:21:26.160 It's like, okay.

01:21:27.620 So now God forbid the Pope dies and we go through a conclave, which is the process by which they

01:21:31.940 elect the new Pope.

01:21:33.320 Of course, this is like, we're going to be like, could, could we make sure it's a man

01:21:36.340 is at a bare minimum.

01:21:37.600 Could we, and it's going to be an explosive thing for the Catholic church if, if, and when,

01:21:41.460 I mean, when, when it ultimately happens, because there's, there is a battle for the

01:21:45.300 soul of the Catholic church right now between.

01:21:47.040 There's a battle for the soul of the world.

01:21:48.360 Yes.

01:21:49.320 People who are, you know, genuinely committed, look, who have more conservative views and

01:21:54.620 those who are far left.

01:21:56.000 And we have a far left Pope right now, which has led to the consternation of a lot of diehard

01:22:00.000 Catholics.

01:22:00.560 When it comes to the Latin mass, there's a lot of issues.

01:22:02.780 All right, wait, I want to shift gears because before we leave the RFK discussion and God,

01:22:06.440 by the way, this ties it all together, he did take over at the National Institutes of

01:22:11.260 Health at the, at HHS, uh, this week.

01:22:14.040 And he made a comment, which he's made before, but it doesn't get old on how meaningful it

01:22:20.440 was for him and how important Trump has been really in changing Bobby Kennedy's life.

01:22:25.520 Listen.

01:22:25.880 Yeah.

01:22:27.920 For 20 years, I've gotten up every morning on my knees and prayed that God would put me

01:22:35.920 in a position where I can end the childhood chronic disease epidemic in this country.

01:22:40.740 On August 23rd of last year, God sent me President Trump and he gave me, Mr. President, a lot of

01:22:52.280 people told me that I couldn't trust President Trump.

01:22:55.000 I better get it in writing.

01:22:57.140 And we did a handshake and everything that he told me he was going to do, he has done.

01:23:03.160 And, uh, I'm so grateful to him.

01:23:05.620 And I've told you before, I genuinely believe that you are a pivotal historical figure and

01:23:13.040 you are going to transform this country.

01:23:15.980 Yeah.

01:23:16.560 What a moment.

01:23:17.280 Yeah.

01:23:17.500 Oh man.

01:23:18.220 I watched it multiple times and I've heard him talk about that before about, you know,

01:23:22.640 him being in prayer and petition for 20 years.

01:23:26.040 I mean, I can feel it.

01:23:29.480 I cried when, I mean, I cried, uh, when I was filming in Eastern Europe, Eurasia, when the

01:23:37.900 election was happening.

01:23:38.780 Like, I think I, I even was, when I was talking to you, I was over there or something like that.

01:23:42.940 And so we were up, you know, hours before the U S was up.

01:23:47.200 And so I was seeing the results, the poll results and stuff like that.

01:23:50.260 And I was just like, wow, I can't believe it.

01:23:52.300 This is actually happening.

01:23:53.200 Like, like they were able to keep all of the potential, you know, things that polls and

01:23:59.580 ballot boxes and everything like legit.

01:24:01.840 And then getting Bobby across the line.

01:24:03.980 And so, and that's what I was saying to the other day to finally, cause, cause that was

01:24:08.220 one step and then it's like, okay, but we still got to get Bobby Tulsi, you know?

01:24:10.940 And so the other day I was on a flight, uh, home and I'm seeing the confirmation and I

01:24:17.980 just started crying on the, on the plane because I really do.

01:24:21.240 Like, I know this man, I know him personally, and I know that he has the integrity that that's

01:24:28.640 the exact, and so does Tulsi to, to go and be a leader that is non-corruptible.

01:24:34.040 There are far too many people, even good people, but it's like, you dangle that just little

01:24:37.760 bit of like, Oh, I could, I mean, I'm going to do good, but I'm also going to, I'm going

01:24:42.200 to take a little bit.

01:24:43.000 And then that starts with a little bit and there's a little bit of compromise and then

01:24:45.780 it's a little more compromise and a little more compromise.

01:24:47.760 And next thing you know, they're not doing any of the good.

01:24:49.580 They're just in, you know, enriching themselves with insider trading or whatever it is that

01:24:53.280 they're doing.

01:24:54.060 And this guy means it, he means it.

01:24:56.660 And, and I, and he, and I absolutely agree with him, you know, like, I love that even

01:25:02.660 when people saying like, Oh, you better getting in writing and, you know, don't trust that

01:25:05.760 guy.

01:25:06.440 Trump meant it.

01:25:07.920 Yeah.

01:25:08.360 He meant it.

01:25:09.060 And that should show everybody too.

01:25:10.400 Like, yes, he's bullish and Trumpy and all of the things, things that I don't like.

01:25:15.280 I get it.

01:25:15.740 I also understand why people have such a hard time voting for somebody like that because

01:25:20.160 you want, you don't want your leader to, to have certain egotistical aspects about

01:25:25.620 him, put all that down for just a moment and see the things that he is doing.

01:25:29.560 Well, is doing right.

01:25:31.160 Man of his word.

01:25:32.380 That was a hard confirmation.

01:25:34.320 Both of those were hard.

01:25:35.760 Like not only did the Democrats not want it to happen, but even these rhino Republicans,

01:25:39.860 Mitch McConnell, blah, blah, get that guy out of there as soon as possible.

01:25:45.120 I mean, he's just going to freeze himself out of there anyway, but like it happened.

01:25:49.400 Yeah.

01:25:49.880 And if that's not God at work to help heal this country in this world, I don't know what

01:25:55.000 is.

01:25:55.100 And here it's like, even if you are against Trump, if you're against Bobby Kennedy, whatever

01:25:58.440 you believe about him, like listen to what he's saying he's going to do.

01:26:01.980 Listen and ask yourself, wouldn't this be great?

01:26:05.520 What's so bad about this?

01:26:06.760 Here he is going on in soundbite eight.

01:26:10.040 Take a listen.

01:26:12.940 We will convene representatives of all viewpoints to study the causes for the drastic rise in

01:26:19.760 chronic disease.

01:26:20.620 Some of the possible factors we will investigate were formerly taboo or insufficiently scrutinized.

01:26:29.200 A childhood vaccine schedule, electromagnetic radiation, glyphosate, other pesticides, ultra

01:26:37.820 processed foods, artificial food allergies, SSRI and other psychiatric drugs, PFAs, PFOAs,

01:26:47.100 microplastics, nothing is going to be off limits.

01:26:51.540 Yes.

01:26:52.340 Praise God.

01:26:53.460 Hallelujah.

01:26:54.300 He hit it all.

01:26:55.420 Like, isn't that what the...

01:26:56.820 Right on.

01:26:57.480 Right on.

01:26:58.180 But isn't that what someone in his position should have always been doing?

01:27:01.200 Yes.

01:27:01.760 And every one of those regulatory agencies should have always been doing.

01:27:05.640 Yes.

01:27:05.880 The FDA should have been on top of all of this instead of just taking handouts from lobbyists.

01:27:08.960 No, they're doing studies on, like, trans fish and COVID vaccines and how many 14th, 15th

01:27:15.800 versions we need.

01:27:17.080 This is exactly it.

01:27:18.420 He hit all the stuff that's unhittable.

01:27:20.300 Yeah.

01:27:20.500 Who the hell else is talking about EMF and that glyphosate?

01:27:25.020 Glyphosate.

01:27:25.420 I can never pronounce it.

01:27:25.980 That's all right.

01:27:26.520 But they're spraying it all over our wheat, which is why it's in every box of pasta that

01:27:31.620 you buy.

01:27:32.340 And you don't even know it's in there, these pesticides that are all over our food.

01:27:35.480 Both parties are guilty.

01:27:36.860 The Republicans represent a lot of farmers, too.

01:27:38.620 We love our farmers.

01:27:39.720 But the farmers, too, I'm sure would love to find some way of getting rid of these toxic

01:27:44.540 chemicals so they don't have to swim in them all day.

01:27:46.920 And they can create products that are actually healthy and good for us and taste good.

01:27:50.800 No one's even talking about this other than him.

01:27:52.940 Yeah.

01:27:53.500 Yeah.

01:27:53.820 It's a brave new world in the most positive of ways, I hope, I believe.

01:27:59.520 I mean, Lord knows there's still people working in the shadows and the darkness that are trying

01:28:03.280 to derail a lot of these things.

01:28:04.740 So I don't think we're out of the woods just yet.

01:28:06.860 Oh, no.

01:28:07.100 There's still a lot of work to do, right?

01:28:08.500 Same as they're going to try to derail every step of doge.

01:28:11.180 Every bit of it.

01:28:12.500 But we must continue to stay in prayer and petition and believing that something really

01:28:19.060 good is happening right now.

01:28:20.840 And do it with empathy.

01:28:22.220 Make sure that people are not being just lost in this shuffle.

01:28:26.060 You know, that is my appeal.

01:28:27.180 And I meant it.

01:28:27.780 And for all people, but I think that these are things that have been long, long, long

01:28:34.380 overdue, long overdue.

01:28:36.720 And we deserve it.

01:28:38.800 Everyone deserves this kind of transparency.

01:28:41.040 Like, light is the best disinfectant.

01:28:43.000 Like, just get in there.

01:28:43.940 Just look at it all.

01:28:45.160 Let's have a real coming to Jesus moment.

01:28:47.200 And we need to do that with all things.

01:28:48.860 We need to bring the American public in on a lot of these things that have been secretive.

01:28:53.000 And no, no, no, we can't tell them, like, rip the Band-Aid off.

01:28:55.640 SSRIs talking about that openly.

01:28:57.320 I mean, that has been more out there in the conversation.

01:28:59.760 But it's very bold for the HHS director to say, we actually are going to be looking into

01:29:03.860 these.

01:29:04.420 It's just, Americans are taking the antidepressants like they're candy.

01:29:07.880 And they don't realize why they're not getting better.

01:29:09.820 And then they up the dosage.

01:29:10.940 And then they try a different one.

01:29:11.940 And then they up the dosage there.

01:29:13.620 And there's no actual public health official being really straight with them on the downsides of

01:29:18.320 these drugs and how there might be alternative ways not to rip on those drugs.

01:29:21.600 They have been helpful for a lot of people.

01:29:22.820 But they're not for everybody.

01:29:24.380 And it's the first line of defense.

01:29:25.720 My friend has a daughter in college.

01:29:27.820 And she went to, like, the college counseling place.

01:29:30.980 Because it can be a difficult adjustment.

01:29:32.620 They try to push an SSRI on her.

01:29:34.160 It's like, for the love of God, maybe just talk to her.

01:29:37.060 Do talk therapy.

01:29:38.320 Do cognitive behavioral therapy before we just knee-jerk give the drug.

01:29:42.060 Well, absolutely.

01:29:42.760 But I think that there's even more effective ways of solving for all of this.

01:29:48.200 And you really got to go to the source.

01:29:50.740 You got to go to the root, right?

01:29:52.740 Why are SSRIs pushed on everybody so much?

01:29:55.700 It's because there's incentive programs.

01:29:57.880 Why are vaccine and the vaccine schedule pushed on children so hard?

01:30:01.300 Because there's incentives.

01:30:02.960 Why should there be incentives for doctors to push what should just be healthy and natural and good?

01:30:09.520 You shouldn't have to incentivize a doctor to encourage their patients to do something that's been tested and is safe and effective and everything.

01:30:17.180 You just have a doctor say, oh, this is great.

01:30:19.580 So why are you having to pay them X amount of dollars bonus to make sure if they get 95% of their pediatrician gets 95% of the people in their practice and the children all fully vaxxed up?

01:30:30.960 And then you give them hundreds of thousands of dollars in return?

01:30:34.080 This is not okay.

01:30:35.040 So I think that if we actually start to regulate these industries, all of that downstream pushing and stuff, that's all going to kind of start to resolve itself.

01:30:43.820 And once it gets exposed.

01:30:44.860 100%.

01:30:45.660 Moreover, I think when it comes to our farming situation, listen, maybe under FDR, incentivizing farmers, getting out of the Great Depression, there was some good that they were trying to do with all of that.

01:30:57.120 But all that did was led to, it led to like bad capitalism, run amok and people in industrial farming and companies like Monsanto creating glyphosate and atrazine and all of these things that are poisoning us,

01:31:10.980 which is why you can literally eat all the bread you want in Europe and you can't eat any bread in the United States.

01:31:15.460 Yeah, that's the point.

01:31:15.900 We don't have to have this on our wheat.

01:31:17.160 We don't have to eat our pasta and our bread like this.

01:31:19.220 But what I think, like one of the biggest first things that they can do is if you, instead of incentivizing farmers to do massive monocropping with industrial fertilizer,

01:31:29.480 instead start incentivizing farmers.

01:31:31.820 And we, by the way, we must, because to incentivize farmers to have regenerative organic farms.

01:31:38.260 Ron Johnson was just saying that this is a top priority for him.

01:31:41.100 It has to be.

01:31:41.580 It has to be.

01:31:42.400 They're onto it now.

01:31:43.480 Because our soil is dead.

01:31:45.920 We only have so many more cycles left because the nutrients have all been sucked out of it through all the industrial fertilizing and the tilling for monocropping.

01:31:54.540 It's destroying our environment.

01:31:56.180 So people that want to solve for all of these things, guys, we can help the environment and help the soil and bring down carbon in the environment.

01:32:03.180 Like all of these things that we just go back to the way we ought to be doing agriculture.

01:32:07.260 And then you don't have to spray it with all the things because there's other, by the way, ways to mitigate pests and whatnot.

01:32:13.680 But also, that shouldn't be in a truck going 1,500 miles to a grocery store that is not local.

01:32:19.940 Grow it and sell it and eat it within a few days.

01:32:23.360 That's the way it's supposed to be done when we get back to more locally sourced.

01:32:26.420 When you're here and it's so cold all the time, it's very hard to find.

01:32:29.780 We do need to import some of our fruit coast to coast.

01:32:32.960 100%.

01:32:33.340 But there's ways to even get around that where it's not coming from so far and still grown in more responsible ways.

01:32:39.620 I will be honest that I have not found a great solution for the fruit and vegetable problem, like getting it fresh.

01:32:44.060 I was talking to Casey Means, good energy.

01:32:46.520 And her brother, Callie, amazing.

01:32:48.580 But I'm like, how do I do that?

01:32:50.660 Because I don't live in California.

01:32:52.160 I can't go to the wonderful farmer's market in the middle of February.

01:32:54.940 It doesn't exist in Connecticut.

01:32:56.080 And even the ones that do, don't have the fruits and the vegetables this time of year.

01:32:59.560 And she was like, you can get your own inside farm.

01:33:02.620 You know, I don't see that happening.

01:33:05.220 I got to be honest.

01:33:05.700 We got to come up with a different solution, something that's workable.

01:33:08.020 Really awesome greenhouses that people can be building up and around various communities.

01:33:12.800 There's a lot that can be done with that.

01:33:14.180 There are greenhouses that people have been building on the rooftops of buildings in Brooklyn and in New York.

01:33:18.960 That's pretty dope.

01:33:19.660 You know who does the indoor farming and does it really well?

01:33:22.300 Elon's brother, Kimball Musk.

01:33:24.360 Really?

01:33:24.740 He's got a crazy indoor farming program.

01:33:27.160 He came on my show on NBC and I was amazed.

01:33:29.560 It's like, if he didn't have Elon as a brother, this guy would be super world famous.

01:33:33.000 Everybody would want to talk to him.

01:33:34.960 It's tough.

01:33:35.560 It's tough when he's your brother.

01:33:36.440 All right, stand back.

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01:37:17.160 Austin.

01:37:18.820 You're doing awesome, dude.

01:37:21.580 Go on.

01:37:22.060 Get back out there.

01:37:22.840 Go finish your dance.

01:37:26.580 Sure you can.

01:37:28.120 Watch this.

01:37:29.360 Watch this.

01:37:29.400 Watch this.

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01:37:36.400 Oh, so sweet.

01:38:01.220 That is a clip from Zach Levi's new movie.

01:38:04.140 It's called The Unbreakable Boy.

01:38:05.620 It's a great film.

01:38:06.480 It's out this Friday.

01:38:07.600 And in it for the listening audience, you see Zach's character go out on the basketball

01:38:12.340 court with the mascot's head on because his little boy was going to be the mascot but

01:38:15.720 didn't want to do it.

01:38:16.760 And the boy's got the rest of the tiger outfit on, just the body part.

01:38:19.860 And with all the dad's crazy dancing and fearlessness out on the court, ultimately the

01:38:23.660 little boy comes out and joins him and has fun.

01:38:25.380 It's classic.

01:38:26.260 Great stuff.

01:38:26.880 Yeah.

01:38:27.420 Yeah.

01:38:28.040 Really proud of this movie.

01:38:29.200 I think it's just, it's very human.

01:38:31.660 It's very...

01:38:32.320 Are people going to the movies again?

01:38:33.820 Yeah.

01:38:34.280 They are.

01:38:34.520 I mean, listen, that's why Lionsgate felt confident that this was a good time to release

01:38:38.520 it.

01:38:38.720 Three years ago when it was supposed to come out, right after American Underdog, it was

01:38:42.320 supposed to come out around Valentine's Day of 2022.

01:38:46.180 Wow.

01:38:46.400 But people hadn't really been coming back to the theater that much.

01:38:49.140 And they were like, this is a, this is not that big a movie.

01:38:51.020 Like it'll get crushed.

01:38:52.340 It'll get lost.

01:38:53.060 And so I think they feel very confidently that people are back in theaters enough.

01:38:56.980 And also I just think the timing of the story is, is, is now like this is, this is the type

01:39:01.440 of story and the type of movie that people are looking for.

01:39:03.580 So when is your baby due?

01:39:05.400 First week of April.

01:39:06.340 Oh, so congratulations.

01:39:07.780 Thank you.

01:39:08.260 So you've got this movie hitting and you've got a new baby coming.

01:39:10.840 Yeah.

01:39:11.320 This is your first baby.

01:39:12.440 Yeah.

01:39:12.820 Yeah.

01:39:13.260 So that's how, how are you feeling about that?

01:39:16.000 Amazing.

01:39:16.900 I don't.

01:39:17.380 Scared?

01:39:17.720 Are you, are you feeling overwhelmed?

01:39:18.960 No, no, not at all.

01:39:19.880 Yeah.

01:39:20.200 That's Maggie.

01:39:21.020 Oh, she's so beautiful.

01:39:21.840 Oh my gosh.

01:39:22.600 Look at me.

01:39:22.820 And she's going to be such a wonderful mom.

01:39:25.240 Um, no, I'm not scared.

01:39:27.000 I, I, I feel, you know, again, like God's timing is good.

01:39:31.620 It's perfect.

01:39:32.460 We, it's, it's, it's us that want to fight it and wrestle with it.

01:39:35.960 And it's like, no, no, it can't be this.

01:39:37.180 And it can't be that, you know, like Scott in, in the Unbreakable Boy, but I'm so grateful

01:39:41.800 that even though I wanted to be a father since I was a kid, like I've all, I've always known

01:39:45.220 it's in my bones, it's in my DNA and I would have rushed it had I met somebody that, you

01:39:50.500 know, it all clicked or whatever.

01:39:51.600 Like, and I wasn't, I was married and, and briefly, very briefly married and divorced

01:39:55.500 and we did not have children and we weren't supposed to have children.

01:39:57.820 And I was supposed to have children at this point in my life after I had done a lot of

01:40:02.820 work on myself so that I could love my child as deeply and as wholly as I could without

01:40:10.300 spilling as much of my own generational trauma onto that child.

01:40:15.120 Do you know if you're having a boy or a girl?

01:40:16.280 We don't know.

01:40:16.840 That's good.

01:40:17.320 Yeah.

01:40:17.460 You're letting them be a surprise.

01:40:19.080 I love that.

01:40:19.680 Yeah.

01:40:20.180 Um, do you worry?

01:40:21.520 Like, I know I have a dear friend and she's come on the show and talked about this openly.

01:40:26.360 So I feel like I can repeat it, but her it's, she's an actress too, or not now she's a

01:40:29.840 newswoman, but Melissa Francis, she starred when she was young in Little House on the

01:40:33.920 Prairie and many other things.

01:40:34.980 Sure.

01:40:35.320 She was the next generation of Ingalls along with Jason Bateman.

01:40:38.020 Anyway, she wrote in her book, um, one of them, diarist, uh, diary of a stage mother's

01:40:44.580 daughter about how her own mother's mental illness and how she worried, you know, like,

01:40:51.640 am I going to have that?

01:40:52.700 Do I have that anytime?

01:40:53.960 You know, we all feel crazy here or there, you know, in once in a while, but it's different

01:40:58.360 when you have a parent who actually does or did have mental illness, then now I'm sure

01:41:02.340 with it, like your next generation, it's yet another thing.

01:41:04.880 So how do you process that?

01:41:06.560 Or do you just feel like you're good?

01:41:07.940 Cause you worked through, you're not mentally ill.

01:41:09.940 You don't, you didn't have what your mom had.

01:41:11.720 No, but also I look at mental illness as a, as I kind of maybe said before, it's, it's

01:41:16.460 mental illness is like dental illness is like any illness.

01:41:19.300 It's well, meaning it's a spectrum, right?

01:41:22.220 Like if you're dealing, if you're waking up and you're just, and you're just like in a

01:41:26.160 funk and you've got some anxiety or some anger or whatever, that's like a little common

01:41:30.900 cold, that's still mental illness.

01:41:33.340 And you could also need a full blown root canal, mental root canal, which is what I needed,

01:41:37.940 which is why I ended up going to the therapy that I did still melt it mental illness.

01:41:42.000 It's a spectrum, just like physical illness.

01:41:44.500 And so I don't, and I also don't believe that it's something that is ever, that's it.

01:41:50.120 That's done.

01:41:50.700 That's fixed.

01:41:51.160 That's forever.

01:41:51.780 In the same way that we have to brush and floss our teeth every single day, you got

01:41:55.480 to brush and floss your heart and your mind every single day.

01:41:58.120 You got to maintain it.

01:41:59.320 It's a maintenance.

01:42:00.060 And if you do that and you do it consistently, well, then you don't end up getting these cavities

01:42:04.660 turning into full blown root canals.

01:42:06.460 You can just keep it.

01:42:07.300 In fact, you don't even have to have cavities.

01:42:08.900 You can wake up every day and be grateful.

01:42:12.100 And even when the things are coming at you, you know, meditate, pray, eat well, sleep well,

01:42:17.380 guys, I can't, sleeping is so integral to your mental.

01:42:21.540 You know you're about to have a baby.

01:42:22.640 Oh, no, no, I understand, which is also the reason why, thank God, we've got a night nurse

01:42:26.620 and there's going to be, there's going to be some help.

01:42:28.240 But nonetheless, yes, there will be sleep that is lost.

01:42:31.380 No doubt.

01:42:32.000 I know that's a part of the process, but I'm prepared for it and I can't wait.

01:42:35.340 I think it's only going to triple your blessings here.

01:42:37.960 It's going to make you even happier.

01:42:39.280 Yes, you lose sleep.

01:42:40.100 It's so worth it.

01:42:40.700 It's a nothing, you know, in the lung.

01:42:41.980 And one, one so easy.

01:42:44.300 Ladies, isn't it one so easy?

01:42:45.720 He's such a cute baby with his just one, one little baby.

01:42:48.800 It's going to be so fun for you guys.

01:42:50.120 Well, hopefully we'll have more.

01:42:51.300 All the blessings in the world to you.

01:42:52.560 Thank you so much.

01:42:53.240 Thank you for being here.

01:42:54.640 Oh, good luck with it.

01:42:55.480 The movie, the baby, all of it.

01:42:57.580 Zachary, leave by everybody.

01:42:59.340 Check it out.

01:42:59.720 The Unbreakable Boy this Friday.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - February 19, 2025

Zachary Levi on RFK and Tulsi Bringing Him to Trump, Secrets of Hollywood, and How God Saved His Life ｜ Ep. 1010

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