On this episode of The Megyn Kelly Show: It s the waning days of a slow summer Monday, but not in Washington, D.C., where the future of world peace could be at stake today as Ukraine s President, Oleksander Zelensky, makes his return to the White House for a meeting with President Trump. Plus, James Comey is joined by a complete fool out of himself.
00:00:00.580Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.
00:00:12.240Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We are back in the red studio.
00:00:18.020The summer's coming to an end. It's happening. But on the bright side, the fall is right around the corner.
00:00:24.160Pumpkin spice everything. Fall clothes. And I don't know, you know, the September start of the year is always like the real start of the year.
00:00:32.940Much more so than January, isn't it? Since you were a kid, it's when you started your new school year.
00:00:37.060And it's when our kids now are starting their new school years. And there's something exciting about that.
00:00:42.280So anyway, onward. It may feel like it's the waning days of a slow summer Monday,
00:00:50.040but not in Washington, D.C., where the future of world peace could be at stake today.
00:00:54.900As Ukrainians president, Zelensky makes his return to the White House for a meeting with President Trump.
00:00:59.000First time back since that disastrous meeting in February.
00:01:01.660Plus a bunch of other European leaders tagging along.
00:01:04.420Marco Rubio says we invited them. I mean, I guess it's good they're there.
00:01:08.040It's like it's nice to have other leverage points against Zelensky besides just Trump and J.D. threatening him.
00:01:14.040I'm like, I don't know that he's going to do what anybody wants, but at least they're in his neighborhood.
00:01:19.700Like they have a bigger stake in this than we do. So, yeah, welcome to the party.
00:01:23.960This follows President Trump's high profile summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska on Friday.
00:01:29.320Sent the media into meltdown. Plus, James Comey is joining Substack and making a complete fool out of himself.
00:01:37.620Joining me now on all of these stories and more, our pal Walter Kern.
00:01:41.920He's editor-at-large of the newspaper County Highway and co-host with Matt Taibbi of the America This Week podcast.
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00:03:10.380I don't think we were expecting, I don't think Trump was expecting to spike the ball in the end zone and dance back down that red carpet.
00:03:17.960But he's trying to get a dialogue going on stopping this war, on ending this war, something that's been completely stalled and going nowhere.
00:03:27.580So now he brings Zelensky to the table, along with these European leaders.
00:03:32.900And unfortunately, it looks like if this thing ends and when it ends, it's going to end on terms that are not favorable to Ukraine.
00:03:40.580They're going to have to give up the territory that Putin has seized.
00:03:45.140I think all they seem to be debating is whether they're going to have to give up even more territory than that,
00:03:51.260which Zelensky appears to say he won't, too.
00:08:18.460It has the possibility of breaking into a kind of superpower war at any moment.
00:08:25.100It's as tense in some ways as the Cuban Missile Crisis.
00:08:29.320I mean, we've never launched missiles into Russian territory, which we basically did by proxy from Ukraine in the last month of Biden's presidency.
00:08:39.140That could have gone south in ways that only Hollywood has ever depicted.
00:08:46.680And now Trump is trying to, like, have a good relationship with Putin, another nuclear power, and giving away minor things in order to help that.
00:08:58.140Like, there's a red carpet out on the tarmac.
00:09:01.580Like, the president does the, you know, the sort of glad-handing, you know, mild clap as Putin's coming toward him, which is a friendly gesture.
00:09:11.500Does anybody really think Trump's in favor of, you know, the killing of civilians by Russia and Ukraine?
00:09:17.300He's trying—this is his version of diplomacy.
00:09:21.300He's treating Putin the way he would want to be treated.
00:09:55.040They want a meeting in, like, Wayne's world basement in order to put Putin where he belongs, as opposed to giving him any sort of celebratory welcome.
00:10:04.480It's like, this stuff costs us nothing.
00:10:06.600Oh, on the world stage, we've elevated him.
00:10:26.800The rest of the world knows Vladimir Putin.
00:10:29.540The rest of the world has not been propagandized for 10 years to believe that there should be no talking to this man, that he secretly controls Trump from behind the scenes.
00:10:40.700I mean, does anybody really believe that after seeing them together?
00:10:46.960After I saw 10 seconds of the footage between the two of them, I felt like Trump was going to hand Putin his briefcase and ask him to carry it, you know, or his golf bag.
00:10:58.600I felt he was being, if anything, a little too dominant.
00:11:01.540I was like, you don't need to fly the bomber over his damn head.
00:11:35.100But it was Trump's way of, like, making him feel a little unsteady while he, you know, peppered the field with these meaningless niceties that also sent another message.
00:11:56.920You know, it's not like the beauteous, you know, sophisticated spot of the world to have to come to Alaska to our most, you know, our chilliest and frozen frontier outpost.
00:12:14.100I mean, every single every single law of hospitality suggests that when people come to you and are willing to have B-2 bombers flown over their heads and walk between rows of your fighter planes, you can at least shake their damn hand.
00:13:01.260And also the old way would have been the two world leaders would not even meet until there was a deal on the table, like Marco Rubio and Sergei Lavrov would have already negotiated and ended this thing before the two principals would have shown their face.
00:13:15.340Trump just doesn't do things like that.
00:13:40.820The last time Putin was on U.S. soil was in 2015.
00:13:45.800He visited the United Nations in New York and he met with Obama.
00:13:50.700There was none of this analysis then of every single facial feature and handshake and so on.
00:13:56.740The right of a U.S. president to talk to a Russian leader was not questioned.
00:14:04.100And between the people who didn't want this to happen at all and the people who wanted it to fail, I really question whether or not, especially on the democratic and sort of liberal side, peace is still a value at all.
00:14:57.720If then somehow with U.S. backing, when we're on the brink of nuclear world war, then Putin says, OK, you can have 10 percent of what I took back.
00:15:06.680How is that better than just letting him keep what he's taken, what the Ukrainians were not able to win back during the course of the war?
00:15:14.620Sorry, but it's a war and it's not going well for Ukraine.
00:15:20.480At this point, it's about cutting losses.
00:15:23.620Then here's the other thing, you know, for us domestically, the American people no longer support our involvement in any way in this war.
00:15:31.220But here's something that was apparently given up that's not going to go over well with MAGA.
00:15:36.680Here's the presidential envoy, Steve Whitcoff, saying they did agree to something.
00:15:42.400He, as the envoy prior to Putin getting here, it's SOT 10.
00:15:46.680We agreed to robust security guarantees that I would describe as game changing.
00:15:53.860We didn't think that we were anywhere close to agreeing to Article 5 protection from the United States in legislative enshrinement within the Russian Federation,
00:16:06.360not to go after any other territory when the peace deal is is, you know, codified legislative enshrinement in the Russian Federation,
00:16:16.900not to go after any other European countries and violate their their sovereignty.
00:16:22.580So we agreed to there was and there was plenty more.
00:16:26.940OK, I just want to say a couple of things about this.
00:16:28.920First of all, any any agreement by Putin not to go after additional territory.
00:16:33.800It's not worth the paper that it's printed on.
00:16:35.380He's going to do what he wants to do unless you have real incentives built in to stop him.
00:16:41.180And that's where we've apparently agreed to act as though Ukraine is in NATO by the U.S. providing security guarantees.
00:16:50.200If Russia violates its written word not to do something else to Ukraine, which is not really what MAGA wanted.
00:16:59.800We don't really want to be the world's policeman and have to back Ukraine forevermore in this fight against Russia if Putin does come back for more.
00:17:12.740I know I speak for a lot of people, though.
00:17:14.280I do not want my sons going over to Ukraine and risking their lives to make sure Putin doesn't violate his word and take another 15 percent.
00:17:22.320But and we'd been holding out on on that, saying we're not going to do that.
00:17:27.040And it appears like the the breakthrough we've made is now we are.
00:17:32.020Well, so the United States has given something up and Putin's given something up on paper that he'll never live up to.
00:17:40.420And Ukraine is stuck with the newly shitty borders and really not much of a guarantee.
00:17:50.940And I think the U.S. getting more involved in guaranteeing Ukraine security is a significant problem for us that the Republican Party is not going to embrace or at least half of it.
00:18:01.500Well, I'm I'm I'm not happy that Ukraine made itself a virtual NATO member, that we allowed that to happen, that we that we made it one, frankly.
00:18:14.900In a weird way, what they're doing here is they're solemnizing or formalizing something that happened without Trump's permission, without America's permission, without America's knowledge, really.
00:18:27.360I mean, the run up to the Ukraine war happened sort of off in the shadows for most Americans and the situation they were presented with was a fait accompli that they would never, I think, have voluntarily asked for.
00:18:41.560And, you know, it's a measure of how we screwed ourselves in my book, you know, that such things would be considered.
00:18:51.560Yes, it's it's it's reminding me of the pottery barn rule, right?
00:18:57.620And and we're kind of acting like we we broke it.
00:19:01.440And we kind of did not Trump, but Democrats and interfering in Ukraine in 2014 and their democratically election elected president.
00:19:11.600And ever since when we've had Democratic administrations trying to amp up NATO, trying to saber rattle that Ukraine was going to join it when they knew what Putin would do.
00:19:21.220And then Joe Biden, let's not forget a minor incursion, you know, maybe we could live with that is what he telegraphed.
00:19:28.320And then we got something that plus a lot more because it seemed to be a wink and a nod that Putin could get away with something.
00:19:34.720And then he took more than he was, quote, unquote, offered.
00:19:40.260Like we did kind of break it and now Trump is trying to fix it.
00:19:43.140But I hate to see us fix it by giving even more than we've already given.
00:19:46.500And it's like it's like marrying somebody and then finding you got to pay off their credit cards from before you were married.
00:19:53.620And, you know, it really he he has inherited debts that were incurred by Obama, frankly, and then which were increased under Biden, who is essentially Obama's proxy.
00:20:06.980And it's humiliating in a way that he should have to do so.
00:20:14.080But I guess in peace, everybody gets humiliated a little bit.
00:20:17.980Mm hmm. I don't know. It's like to me, it's like, I don't know.
00:20:24.040I tomorrow we're going to have Marjorie Taylor Greene on this show for the first time.
00:20:27.740And I'm actually really looking forward to talking to her.
00:20:29.740But like this she's been sounding the alarm about she she doesn't have anything against Israel, but she she thinks we're getting too involved.
00:20:36.800Right. She thinks like this is this is not America first.
00:20:39.840And you can times that by 10 when it comes to Ukraine.
00:20:44.880It's like the people making these decisions, you know, the people who push Trump toward like getting more militarily involved and making more military promises and being more bellicose.
00:20:55.660Is it their sons who are going to have to go fight this and daughters now?
00:20:58.760Because, by the way, our daughters can get drafted now.
00:21:14.680And I think I speak for most Americans when I say that.
00:21:17.880So, like, who's going to enforce these security guarantees?
00:21:20.540I know, I thought the whole point of the land deal where we're going to invest in their natural land minerals and all that in Ukraine was like so we'd have a stake there and like Putin would be chastised out of doing anything more with Ukraine because he knew, oh, my God, the United States owns half of it or at least, you know, these natural minerals.
00:22:08.780Well, you know, one of the problems is that we've fought a war here without spilling blood.
00:22:13.820I mean, not that anyone wants American blood to spill, but, you know, this was a cake and eat it to war in which we just paid money and we backed down the Russian Russians and we even fantasized we were going to overthrow Putin.
00:22:27.900You know, every couple of weeks he was sick or he was about to be deposed or whatever.
00:22:33.420American thought it was going to get one for free here or, you know, for the price of weapons.
00:22:44.060And it was our fantastic, you know, eat more and lose weight fantasy that that you could win a war against Russia without losing a soldier.
00:22:57.840And it turns out when you try to do those things, when you try to get it all, you actually lose.
00:23:24.540I don't know what to expect out of today.
00:23:26.580I just think we're already too down, too far down a line that gives us skin in the game, more skin than I think we're we should have to provide.
00:23:37.380But I think the odds of like another catastrophic meltdown at the White House with Zelensky there are pretty slim.
00:25:25.440There was a moment of bad Bill Maher where he got up in your grill, Walter, and he was so wrong about this.
00:25:32.360It was because of good Bill Maher that I felt I could speak to him reasonably, but he didn't like it the second time.
00:25:40.720No, he did not, because then you guys got into Russiagate, switching from Russia to Russiagate or Obamagate, depending on your preference.
00:25:49.480But the meltdown of the meltdown of the whole story around Donald Trump and the alleged Russian collusion that's been happening in this country for the past two months, thanks to Tulsi Gabbard.
00:26:00.400So Bill Maher was not listening to you, Walter Kern, when you tried to explain to him that what happened allegedly in 1516 between Trump and Russia was not a scandal.
00:26:13.160And what the Democrats did to Trump around Russia in that same time frame and ever after is a scandal.
00:26:21.660And here's a little of how that went and sought for.
00:26:24.100Which I think he, I mean, I don't know, look, I don't think he was exactly a Russian agent, but, you know, Russiagate was not, you know, completely made up.
00:27:02.880OK, but let me ask a broader question, because the first I take your point.
00:27:08.380I think it's kind of a zombie lie that Trump is Putin's, you know, bitch, because, I mean, he certainly was over friendly to him for a very long time, considering who Putin is, a thug and a murderer.
00:27:21.640In 2015, Obama met him and nobody said anything in New York.
00:27:34.560OK, so what a red herring by Marr there, Walter, bringing up the Trump comments about, oh, Putin, if you're listening, that's that's his evidence that Trump colluded with.
00:27:50.860I mean, in a way, I appreciate him saying it because that's what a lot of leftists think.
00:27:54.880Oh, I mean, it's it's an insane and ridiculous assertion.
00:28:00.020If you think about the mechanics of that, Trump says something on TV.
00:28:04.360Putin, who happens to be watching American TV or whatever, says, hey, let's go hack them.
00:28:27.620The Trump Russia scandal, which was really Hillary throwing a S.H.I.T. fit over, you know, having lost.
00:28:36.120But one that she started long before because she had all this email exposure and other things has been used to keep us apart from Russia, to keep Trump from meeting Putin, to keep the I would say the run up to the Ukraine war, which was happening while Trump was president.
00:28:56.020You know, remember, they impeached him for just trying to talk to Zelensky.
00:29:02.120I mean, he, the perfect phone call, Trump was hampered and put in manacles as far as Russia policy from the beginning by this series of gross exaggerations and outright lies, many of which are now the stuff of grand jury investigations.
00:29:22.320And I promise you will continue to be debunked and even shown to be conspiracies of some kind, maybe not maybe not indictable ones or maybe not ones that will end in prosecutions, but they may.
00:29:39.300And day by day, we're going to get that news.
00:29:42.700Bill Maher has apparently been on vacation all of August because we've had more case closed news about the ways in which the intelligence community and the law enforcement community, if you include the FBI, got together.
00:30:01.000And with zero evidence and with this crappy steel dossier, which is, you know, less real than one of my novels, tried to keep this guy from taking office and then from holding it and certainly keep him from negotiating as a peer with Putin.
00:30:18.780And Molly John fast and Bill suggesting that no one has ever complimented Putin in the past.
00:30:25.700Hillary went there with a fricking button to hit a reset with Medyev.
00:30:56.280But we have we've we've we've been kept.
00:30:59.740Bill Maher has been on the wrong side of the Russiagate story from the beginning.
00:31:04.520I mean, and he's been a main pusher of the nonsense.
00:31:07.940Your cohort on your podcast, Matt Taibbi, wrote a long piece about it after that exchange with Maher,
00:31:14.520pointing out that when when the whole you know, when Russiagate fell apart and it was obvious that Mueller did not have the goods on Trump.
00:31:24.800Bill Maher had Eric Swalwell on and said to him, well, I don't need the Mueller report to know that he meaning Trump is a traitor.
00:31:39.940I mean, that's like Bill, with all due respect to Bill, has been hashtag part of the problem on Russiagate and therefore not shockingly, I guess, cannot see its complete dismantling.
00:31:49.860And really, like all the motivations and the crafting of all the lies that are coming out day by day, like the revelations about the crafting, he cannot see it with objective eyes and maybe isn't even trying.
00:32:02.360But like the sneering, oh, come on to you.
00:32:05.340It's on tape as though this has all been settled years ago.
00:32:09.680We saw and heard it with our own eyes and ears.
00:32:11.640A lot of what these media people do, especially at the level of cable news and cable TV and network TV, is they give the audience permission to close its mind.
00:32:22.920You don't need to learn anything more about this.
00:32:35.240You know, it always takes time to excavate the truth about issues, especially ones that have been presented as having only one side by the mainstream media.
00:32:46.000Then it takes years, you know, between the establishment resistance and the media's resistance to get at the truth.
00:32:52.920Then as you get at it, they come out and say, it's old news.
00:34:15.420And it seemed like Putin came in and steamrolled.
00:34:16.540A lot of the press corps that was there, they reported in the minutes and hours after the presser that they saw members of the administration, like Carolyn Leavitt, look ashen.
00:34:51.080And by the way, Jackie Henrich of Fox News is like he got steamrolled.
00:34:54.720It is customary to let the opposing president, the visiting president, speak first to have the first shot at, you know, saying anything because he's come to you.
00:35:06.720So that was one tradition that Trump actually honored.
00:35:10.180And the media, rather than saying Trump honored tradition here, he got steamrolled.
00:35:47.160There must be some massive interest group that is ongoing, that predates Trump, and that has a lot at stake here in us failing to reach a peace accord under Trump.
00:41:20.720I mean, that is the kind of breathtaking language that used to be used of by the right sometimes of like Jane Fonda during the Vietnam era.
00:41:47.780And to be talking to the U.S. military around the back of their commander in chief about the notion that he might be working for the enemy is that we've gotten used to that is crazy and dangerous.
00:42:02.400The other narrative all over MSNBC was everything, everything Tulsi has released, even Trump's meeting with Putin is about covering up the Epstein scandal.
00:42:14.060This is all an effort to get us to move off of Epstein.
00:42:17.780Meanwhile, we've we've already moved off of Epstein like it was a scandal.
00:42:32.340And they're still holding on over on MSNBC that everything, everything is a cover for the Epstein story.
00:42:40.280I give you Lawrence O'Donnell here in Sat 16.
00:42:43.120Donald Trump will fly to Alaska to meet with a war criminal who he has called a genius in order to avoid questions about a pedophile who raped children.
00:42:53.880While Donald Trump was calling him a terrific guy.
00:42:59.940I mean, like some of you got to give him some credits for those gymnastics.
00:43:08.100I'm mixing now gymnastics and ice skating.
00:43:10.620In any event, it's impressive in its flexibility to get us from he's trying to end the Ukraine war and save lives to it's all made up to distract from Epstein.
00:43:23.820And he managed to get Vladimir Putin here to help him do that.
00:43:26.600Let's remember that this latest round of Epstein obsession was started by Elon Musk.
00:43:35.300They didn't resurrect Epstein, but they saw an opportunity after Elon Musk in the middle of some kind of a lover's quarrel with Trump brought it up.
00:43:44.860Now, the NFL season is going to be a distraction from Epstein.
00:44:03.600He just sent his deputy attorney general to go interview Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:44:07.100The House Oversight Committee is trying to interview Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:44:10.040Like, listen, it's not ideal, but it's a weird way to completely cover it up.
00:44:14.860Megan, when Epstein died three days later, I wrote an op-ed for The New York Times.
00:44:21.620They reached out to me out here in Montana because they didn't want to touch it back there in New York.
00:44:26.480They thought semi-crazy Walter out there in Montana can maybe respectively ask the question of whether everything's kosher about this death.
00:44:35.040He's been alone with the moose and the bears long enough that he can get away with this.
00:44:47.680And I did it when The New York Times wouldn't touch it, when nobody would touch it.
00:44:52.860For years, I have researched this and followed it at an almost unhealthy level.
00:44:57.340And I'll tell you, for many years, you were called QAnon if you cared about Epstein, if you cared about pedophilia, if you cared about where are the missing children and so on.
00:45:08.340Suddenly, it's the, you know, you're not a card-carrying Democrat unless Epstein is your greatest concern.
00:46:21.880Well, it is it is a desperate situation when they have to claim that an investigation into Russiacate that has literally been going on since 2018.
00:46:34.860I mean, I mean, Horowitz, Kash Patel, a lot of this evidence was locked up by John Bolton, of all people, in a in a safe.
00:46:43.100I mean, it's not as though Trump reached back into time and said, you know, how can I go back and create a six year investigation that will cover up that will distract from Epstein in May 2025?
00:46:58.520And by the way, Walter, by the way, if what Tulsi had released, which did come on the heels of Epstein, had been a nothing burger, had been like she's trying to make something out of nothing.
00:47:40.300And and we're and we're probably going to see indictments.
00:47:43.280There's so much there there because we have been told that this has gone to grand juries.
00:47:47.660And if these people are good politicians and good lawyers, they have some confidence that those grand juries are going to return indictments if they talk about it, you know, in advance.
00:47:59.860And the biggest revelation of all was that the Russians supposedly knew back in the spring of 2016 that Hillary was planning on blaming if Trump was nominated, she was going to blame him or try to attach him to Russia as a campaign strategy, which is exactly what she went and did.
00:48:22.280In other words, they they caught them planning a hoax and then they went ahead with the hoax.
00:48:47.120The Russian emails themselves say the analysis that John Durham came up with says they might have been an amalgam of other Russian documents showing that she was trying to do this.
00:48:59.520But the but Michael Schellenberger pointed out that some of the top officials within the intel agencies themselves were saying, no, we do believe that these are legit emails.
00:49:08.380But secondly, and most importantly, she did it.
00:49:35.360Well, and they're still grappling with that.
00:49:36.900And by the way, we have reason to believe that there will be disclosures this week relating to the media, the media who are complicit in pushing these stories.
00:49:46.940So we're going to be watching John Solomon and all the other great reporters who have been neck deep in this for those reveals.
00:52:43.060At my second Taylor Swift concert in Hartford, Connecticut, 14 years ago this summer, she sang a song about this topic, asking, why you got to be so mean?
00:55:32.000Because she just became uncool by proxy.
00:55:35.660Like the last thing a teenager wants to do is go to the FBI approved concert.
00:55:42.140And by the way, what's with like, well, like the way he's talking about her is exactly the kind of language that would put a red alert on an, on an FBI agent investigating someone like she and I go way back.
00:57:11.020I would report stalker Jim Comey to the current FBI if I were Taylor Swift, you know, but also this, he seems terrified.
00:57:21.700That is some kind of appeal to pop, to pop culture, maybe to a jury, hoping that, you know, he'll get a Taylor Swift fan on his jury.
00:57:31.480That is the most odd choice of appeals when you are in legal peril that I've ever seen.
00:57:41.360And it can only be, in my estimation, because it didn't convince anybody out there who's a civilian, an attempt to make himself look human to a potential jury.
00:57:54.260Or one that's sitting right now in a grand jury room somewhere.
00:59:50.060And now he's making fun of other people's appearances.
00:59:53.040And he's, you know, talking about not being dragged down into the dirt.
00:59:57.620Isn't Taylor Swift, by the way, famous for getting revenge on every ex-boyfriend that she's ever had?
01:00:03.240I mean, she's not exactly a pushover herself.
01:00:09.700I mean, she takes revenge on people after they break up with her or whatever.
01:00:17.680In a way, it's a very Trumpian aspect of her personality.
01:00:23.100You know, she's not the only one who could potentially be indicted, who might just be out there trying to soften someone before that bad event occurs.
01:00:34.400Hillary Clinton made some obviously insincere comment about nominating Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize under very, very limited circumstances that no one's actually discussing.
01:00:47.240And there is some speculation, including from our own link, Lauren, that this may be an attempt to soften Trump on her.
01:00:57.940He gains nothing by capitulating to Putin.
01:01:01.940I understand from everything I've read, he very much would like to receive the Nobel Peace Prize.
01:01:08.400And honestly, if he could bring about the end to this terrible war where Putin is the aggressor, invading a neighbor country, try to change the borders.
01:01:22.060If he could end it without putting Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its territory to the aggressor, had to, in a way, validate Putin's vision of greater Russia, but instead could really stand up to Putin, something we haven't seen.
01:01:44.340But maybe this is the opportunity, a good faith efforts, let us say, not to threaten European security.
01:01:50.920If we could pull that off, if President Trump were the architect of that, I'd nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize.
01:01:58.200OK, so then President Trump actually responded when he was asked about this.
01:02:06.040In fact, did you see that Hillary Clinton yesterday said that if you got this deal done and not capitulate to Putin, that she would nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize?
01:02:20.100If President Trump were the architect of that, I'd nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize.
01:02:59.200And, you know, she came up and she gave a little tentative lick of the hand to show that there are, you know, there are circumstances in which she might team up with him.
01:03:10.260And Trump, you know, one of Trump's charms and one of his weaknesses is that no matter who flatters him.
01:03:18.000I mean, if Charles Manson came out and said he loved Trump, Trump would say, you know, Manson isn't a bad guy.
01:05:09.620She's the New York State Attorney General.
01:05:11.140But she said it was her primary mortgage because you can get the allegation is you can get a more favorable interest rate or mortgage rate if it's your primary residence.
01:05:21.000And the allegation is she lied in order to do that, which is mortgage fraud.
01:05:42.940And by the way, this is not the complete list because she's also getting investigated for abusing the system in going after Donald Trump's business.
01:05:52.240But before we get there, we've got the inquiry into whether in getting this house in Brooklyn and a mortgage on that one, she lied and said that this building has four units because the truth is, we are told, it has five units.
01:06:11.620And she is accused of buying this property, 296 Lafayette Avenue, and misrepresenting it again on her mortgage applications as having only four units, not five, which allowed her to qualify for loans with better interest rates and lower down payments.
01:06:31.940So Ed Martin, the DOJ's Ed Martin, goes out there and kicks the tires on her home.
01:16:26.960President Zelensky wearing a turtleneck with a suit coat.
01:16:52.100So that's an improvement off of the last go-round, I think.
01:16:56.480And standing next to President Donald Trump, who is kind of nice to the reporters, screaming out questions to him there about Russian President Vladimir Putin, not answering, but seemed to be in a good mood and said,
01:17:07.060we love them about the world leaders from Europe who are attending for today's meeting.
01:17:11.580Now all the drama will happen inside, and we will keep our eyes on that just to make sure it doesn't go off the rails as it did the last time.
01:17:38.940Literally everybody in the world knows that song.
01:17:41.660It's been celebrated for decades, and so good for her.
01:17:46.040That's not exactly how the left is reacting.
01:17:48.260Here is the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Tia Mitchell and her thoughts on this award, Saw 33.
01:17:57.760I do believe, as much as the Trump administration has attacked DEI, I think they wanted a person of color on the list of Kennedy Center honorees.
01:18:07.600And to me, the fact that Gloria Gaynor is the one person of color on the list indicates that they struggled to find a person of color who would agree to be on the list.
01:18:18.460Because she doesn't have a huge body of work, which is what the Kennedy Center usually picks, is people who are icons in their genre of the arts.
01:18:34.220Anna Navarro, too, urges Gloria Gaynor to reject the honor, saying,
01:18:40.000She's a goddess and deserves all the flowers that come her way, but I wish she wouldn't accept an award from the hands of a man who has attacked the rights and history of women, people of color, and LGBTQ.
01:18:53.560The gay community in particular helped turn her signature song into an anthem.
01:18:59.020Trump is a stain on the prestige and significance of the Kennedy Center honors.
01:19:04.960So now there's pressure, this is a new era, pressure on the awards nominees in the Trump era to reject the honors that they're being offered because Trump's evil, and now they're against what they perceive as DEI.
01:19:24.140Oh, well, you know, they want to have it both ways.
01:19:29.340You know, they tell you when you can receive an honor and when you must, and they tell you when you shouldn't and when you mustn't.
01:19:38.020And they do it from on high, and they do it to people who've worked hard all their lives, and the answer to that for any self-respecting artist should be, F you, go away.
01:19:51.080I mean, the first thing they notice about her is her race, right?
01:19:55.880At the same time, they want to say that she's a token, basically.
01:21:10.600You know, that's a horrible reality of these racist commissars or these anti-racist commissars, is that they will tell you when you're an Uncle Sam and they will tell you when you're a shining light.
01:21:25.520And they determine it and you're not an individual and they don't let her be one.
01:21:30.660She has to be suddenly a representative of everybody.
01:21:33.680And she can't just be Gloria Gaynor singer.
01:21:44.240I think Gene Simmons does, too, of Kiss.
01:21:46.960So I don't maybe Trump did have some sort of a hey, let's see what conservatives have been ignored by the Kennedy Center for decades and see if we can write some of those wrongs.
01:21:59.480Like elevate some of our people who have been completely rejected by the leftists who've been running this thing since its inception.
01:22:11.120There are so many amazing conservative filmmakers and songwriters and performance artists and so on up and down the line who will never be honored under the old system.
01:22:21.060Because as we saw from all the firings he did, it was a bunch of progressives who only believe in honoring their side.
01:22:27.100It was like Bruce Springsteen back to the Kennedy Center.
01:23:56.260If he shakes hands with Gloria Gaynor, she's she's a traitor for letting him shake her hand.
01:24:01.620You know, these culture police want to look at every move that's made before the cameras and before the American audience.
01:24:08.860And they want to award tickets and they want to discipline it and they want to be in control.
01:24:16.100And one of the reasons there is a Donald Trump is this ridiculous, overbearing, condescending arrogance about who can do what, who can go where, who can be liked by whom.
01:24:46.800Like, I'm sorry, but the relative scale of success favors Gloria Gaynor.
01:24:53.280But nobody was complaining when Hamilton got awarded by the Kennedy Center honors because that was a play that made all the founding fathers black and Hispanic and had them sing about, you know, the creation of our foundational documents.
01:25:08.920So that was OK, because it was elevating minorities.
01:25:12.820But if you're a minority who elevates herself just with great talent and a great song, then you that's not OK, because it's evil orange man who's honoring you.
01:25:22.320I'm like trying to keep up with the rules.
01:25:24.860Minorities can be honored for honoring other minorities as long as it's a white president named Biden or maybe Trump.
01:25:34.200I guess Trump was the president in 2018.
01:26:15.140I mean, also, one thing I know about music, some of the greatest popular musicians have no hits.
01:26:23.260Gloria Gaynor, whose work I'm afraid I don't know that well, could for all I know be one of the most inventive and dynamic popular musicians of our time.
01:26:32.560Just because somebody knows her for one hit does not mean she hasn't had a wonderful, deep, and meaningful career.
01:26:41.080And so for those people to simply slag her off as a one-hit wonder like that is, I think, deeply insulting and arrogant on their part.
01:26:52.100It's like if if Megyn Kelly looked at the Kennedy Center honorees under a Joe Biden presidency or really at any point prior to Trump taking it over and said that person is only there because of DEI, they'd say that's racist.
01:27:06.220But they can say it when it's a Trump nominee because it's just factual.
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01:31:26.480Then there was a funny moment where at the last meeting in February, a reporter for Real America's Voice, Brian Glenn, gave Zelensky a hard time about not wearing a suit.
01:33:32.020OK, so this is the thing I teased before the break.
01:33:35.720Speaking of the left and their wacky views on race, there's this show called Surrounded where you can go and you can choose the premise that you want to debate.
01:33:45.480And they will surround you with critics who get to, like, sit in the chair and debate you on various points.
01:34:48.880And everyone in the audience, I believe, are black conservatives.
01:34:54.680So it was a thing of beauty because woman after man after woman sat down across from this woman, Amanda Seals, and unleashed cans of reality on her.
01:35:08.440And she did not know what hit her because liberals never debate outside of their circles.
01:35:14.800Like, they just, they never have their ideas challenged, and yet this woman did, to her credit.
01:35:20.040She went on the show, and here's a sampling of how that went.
01:35:24.260You can give everyone here like a $50,000, especially people that are in the streets who are committing violent crimes consistently, a $50,000 check.
01:35:50.520I think the only racism we've actually seen recently, systemic racism we've seen, is the application of systemic racism against white people.
01:35:56.280The University of Western Washington, for example, has been trying to segregate dormitories, using black-only dormitories, because black people feel safer amongst each other.
01:36:04.220But they're more likely to kill each other than white people are ever to kill them.
01:36:22.880Okay, so on a basic level, we have to understand that systemic racism is grounded in the realities that black people have not been considered an equal human being in this country since its onset.
01:36:33.760So there's simply no way to make the argument that there isn't systemic racism.
01:36:38.260And we have seen in very clear ways the system operate in an organically racist way.
01:36:44.900Okay, that she's just living up to so many tropes there, like laughing at him, like she's blowing him off, like he's a laughable character.
01:36:56.560You're scary, like you're so misinformed.
01:38:17.300If I walk out to, you know, to the Starbucks, it's like being on Surrounded.
01:38:20.860But it's guys like that who have thought through their positions, who are taking endless hell because they are black and a conservative, who have to work out their debating points to a level that almost no one else has to.
01:38:37.260And my hat is off to him because even though he was in the more aggressive mode because of the layout of that show, he spends most of his day surrounded.