The Michael Knowles Show - 2 Liberals vs. 1 Conservative： BAR FIGHT ｜ Sisson & Chris Mowrey

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00:01:00.300 Harry! Where's Harry?

00:01:03.040 Joe Biden was one of the most productive presidents in modern American history.

00:01:06.200 We got a Buddha man.

00:01:07.160 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:01:09.760 Only enforce the law when I want to.

00:01:11.920 What happened to no king?

00:01:12.720 You voted for a felling.

00:01:14.340 You voted for a felling.

00:01:15.800 She was breaking into the floor of the house at a time when cops were being beaten and your daddy part of the cop beaters.

00:01:22.060 Well, welcome to Bar Fight. 0.72

00:01:28.060 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:28.820 I'm joined tonight by two guests.

00:01:31.540 That's just wrong.

00:01:32.360 That's just wrong.

00:01:33.480 He is the Roy to Harry's Siegfried.

00:01:36.120 Chris Mowry.

00:01:37.240 Joe Biden signed more fiscal legislation into law.

00:01:40.640 Hold on.

00:01:40.920 Did he sign it?

00:01:42.060 And I saw you get walked by Adam Mockler on this.

00:01:43.880 Can you be quiet?

00:01:44.560 The crown prince of left-wing social media, Harry Sisson.

00:01:57.520 Now, here is how it works.

00:01:59.500 We will be debating three of the most controversial topics of our day.

00:02:02.880 The bell will ring.

00:02:03.960 We will duke it out for that round.

00:02:05.560 And then our friends in the crowd can come up to the microphone to pick a fight with any of us.

00:02:09.200 Anyone who comes up to the mic can win special prizes and a seat at our VIP table sponsored by Redneck Riviera Whiskey.

00:02:15.880 Gentlemen, are you ready?

00:02:17.960 Let's do it.

00:02:18.660 Round one.

00:02:19.780 Hey.

00:02:21.800 Come on.

00:02:23.960 It's now round three, I think, actually.

00:02:25.820 Harry, it's your topic.

00:02:27.020 Oh, we're going with me first?

00:02:27.780 What is your claim?

00:02:28.600 My claim is that the Trump cover-up of the Epstein files is one of the worst scandals in American history.

00:02:34.780 Okay.

00:02:35.400 All right.

00:02:36.880 Boom.

00:02:37.120 What's your argument?

00:02:38.400 I mean, look, what we've seen from Donald Trump in the past, whatever, six months or ever since he got into office, has been nothing short of gross.

00:02:44.940 And this is a serious—we're having fun, but this is a serious topic, right?

00:02:47.180 We're talking about kids, women, and even some men being abused.

00:02:50.720 You know, he never wanted the files to come out.

00:02:52.460 When there was the discharge petition, he was calling up Lauren Boebert and all the Republicans and telling him, don't put your name on it.

00:02:57.760 And he was threatening them, essentially.

00:02:59.240 And that's even what Lauren Boebert said.

00:03:00.580 She's still in Congress.

00:03:01.260 She's still in his good graces.

00:03:02.520 And even when the files are out, it's kind of been a trickle, right?

00:03:05.820 We've had some and then some and then some.

00:03:07.460 And even the files we've all seen now, which they're claiming are all of them.

00:03:10.420 They're not.

00:03:11.220 Some redactions are there that make me a little nervous, make me uncomfortable.

00:03:14.500 And I think they should unredact everything that they can within the law.

00:03:18.100 But there's emails out there where they're pretty clearly talking about committing crimes, and it's still redacted.

00:03:23.040 I think the American people deserve to know who those names are.

00:03:25.880 And I think Donald Trump should have to answer for his involvement with Jeffrey Epstein, which goes much deeper than I think the right likes to let on.

00:03:33.000 You disagree?

00:03:33.720 I'll talk to you.

00:03:34.460 Whatever.

00:03:34.880 We'll talk about the conversation.

00:03:35.640 Okay.

00:03:36.120 So your claim really has two claims.

00:03:39.080 Sure.

00:03:39.280 The first is that Trump has covered up the Epstein files.

00:03:42.380 And then the second claim is that that is the worst scandal in American history.

00:03:46.520 It's one of the worst.

00:03:47.280 Yeah.

00:03:47.360 One of the worst.

00:03:48.060 Okay.

00:03:48.860 I think you are impressively wrong on both counts.

00:03:52.300 I'd love to hear that.

00:03:53.020 The first being the fact that Trump not only has not covered up the Epstein files, but he has, in fact, to date released three and a half million Epstein files, which is the single largest declassification in American history.

00:04:08.360 And it's not even really close.

00:04:09.360 And why did he do that?

00:04:09.980 Did he want to?

00:04:11.000 He did it.

00:04:12.420 Oh, but did he want to?

00:04:13.440 Did he try to stop it?

00:04:14.500 Well, he released some files along the way.

00:04:17.280 But he arrested Jeffrey Epstein.

00:04:18.240 Did he try to stop it?

00:04:19.440 He redacted some of the files, and he opposed the release of all of them.

00:04:24.060 And then he was calling up.

00:04:24.640 Some of which is child f***ing.

00:04:25.620 And he was calling up Republicans telling him not to vote.

00:04:27.840 But if he wanted the files to come out, why was he telling Lauren Boeber not to do it?

00:04:30.360 The claim that you made is that Trump covered up the Epstein files.

00:04:33.420 That's part of my claim.

00:04:34.640 That's part of the cover-up, right?

00:04:35.840 Him calling members.

00:04:36.440 That is your claim.

00:04:37.120 Yeah, right.

00:04:37.500 So him calling up members of Congress, telling them not to release the files, not to vote

00:04:41.040 to release the files.

00:04:41.640 We have to establish the first fact before we get to the second.

00:04:44.540 The first fact is you're claiming he covered up the Epstein files.

00:04:46.960 Yes.

00:04:47.160 But then you are admitting that Trump not only released all of those Epstein files.

00:04:50.320 Joe Biden didn't release a single Epstein file.

00:04:52.080 Well, we'll talk about that.

00:04:52.860 Donald Trump released three and a half million of them, which is the single largest release

00:04:57.280 of classified information in American history.

00:04:58.640 If you're attempting a cover-up, that's still a cover-up, right?

00:05:00.780 So Donald Trump just failed.

00:05:02.260 He got pressured by the law and Congress, but he still tried to cover them up.

00:05:05.720 Don't you think that him calling Lauren Boeber, telling her not to put her name on the discharge

00:05:09.060 petition is concerning?

00:05:09.760 Well, I actually do agree that not all of those files should be released.

00:05:13.300 I think some of that is a little bit reckless.

00:05:15.080 I think it undermines certain principles of American justice, like innocent until proven

00:05:18.180 guilty.

00:05:18.760 I think a lot of those claims have been debunked, which we saw in the files.

00:05:21.320 And I think some of it is actually child sexual abuse material, which obviously should

00:05:24.500 not be released.

00:05:24.760 But we know that there are still more documents out there.

00:05:27.340 Like, no, no, no, aside from, aside from.

00:05:29.200 Should not be released.

00:05:30.000 Of course.

00:05:30.380 And some claims that have been disproven, even in courts, even by judges.

00:05:34.340 So obviously those names shouldn't be released.

00:05:36.140 Nevertheless, on the first point, there is no arguing.

00:05:39.200 It is the largest release ever in American history.

00:05:41.960 Therefore, he didn't cover it up.

00:05:42.740 To the second point, that if it were true that he had done the opposite of what he actually

00:05:47.440 did, would that be one of the worst scandals in American history?

00:05:50.940 And I can think of a few others.

00:05:52.280 I'll try to go through them quickly.

00:05:53.960 Aaron Burr, former vice president of the United States, tried to establish a brand new country

00:06:00.200 in America.

00:06:01.300 That seems to me like a bigger scandal.

00:06:03.980 Teapot Dome.

00:06:04.840 Do you remember that one from, you remember from social studies?

00:06:07.700 Teapot Dome, where the secretary of the interior went to jail because he took bribes to sell

00:06:11.120 Navy oil.

00:06:12.160 I'm thinking of another one more recent.

00:06:14.460 Let's say.

00:06:15.420 Well, stealing classified documents.

00:06:16.740 The which class of the Trump stealing classified documents.

00:06:19.140 Oh, hold on.

00:06:19.660 The documents that he stored at a lower degree in less egregious ways than Joe Biden, where

00:06:23.540 he had them next to his crackhead son.

00:06:24.660 Robert Irfan, no intent on Joe Biden's behalf.

00:06:26.920 It's not one of the worst.

00:06:28.040 But just a couple others that come to mind.

00:06:30.120 A few others come to mind.

00:06:31.220 A U.S. grant.

00:06:32.140 A hundred people went to jail over a scandal that also implicated his private secretary.

00:06:35.780 That's probably a bigger scandal.

00:06:37.160 Bill Clinton using his intern as a human humidor in the Oval Office and then perjuring himself

00:06:42.200 about it.

00:06:42.740 I think that's a bigger scandal.

00:06:44.360 And then what about Trump actually assaulting women?

00:06:46.020 Well, we'll get to that in one second.

00:06:47.940 The last scandal I'll mention is when a sitting Democrat senator drunk drove his mistress

00:06:53.180 into a pond and then left her there to drown and remain the lion of the Senate. 0.99

00:06:57.200 I think all of those and many others are much bigger than the supposed scandal of Trump

00:07:02.220 not declassifying the Epstein documents, which he would have been well within his rights

00:07:05.800 to do.

00:07:06.300 I actually might have favored some of that.

00:07:08.080 But regardless, he didn't do it because he declassified.

00:07:10.480 Wait, so everything you just mentioned in terms of scandals, I agree that those are bad.

00:07:13.780 That's why I said it's one of the worst.

00:07:14.820 It's not worse than President Trump hypothetically not releasing criminal information.

00:07:18.960 Michael, we're talking about rich, powerful men connected to the government, connected

00:07:22.720 internationally, abusing children, trafficking children.

00:07:25.580 I think that's a pretty bad scandal.

00:07:27.100 And I think covering that up and protecting the men who did it is a bad scandal.

00:07:31.040 What?

00:07:31.200 Which he obviously didn't do.

00:07:32.880 What?

00:07:33.440 Donald Trump not protecting them?

00:07:34.620 He didn't cover it up.

00:07:35.300 So we just found an email in the Epstein files of somebody.

00:07:38.200 Their name is redacted.

00:07:38.880 We don't know who it is.

00:07:39.540 It's sent to Jeffrey Epstein saying, last night was fun.

00:07:42.160 Your littlest girl was a little naughty.

00:07:44.860 Should that be unredacted?

00:07:47.080 Whoever is implicated in that should be prosecuted.

00:07:49.560 I agree with that.

00:07:49.980 Okay, great.

00:07:50.380 But they're not doing that.

00:07:51.280 The name is redacted.

00:07:51.980 We don't know who it is.

00:07:52.660 Why?

00:07:53.160 If it's not a coverup, why is the name redacted?

00:07:55.440 Who do you think in the Epstein files, who do you think we should prosecute?

00:07:58.820 Oh, no, no.

00:07:59.040 I'm asking about this in particular.

00:08:00.460 This name that's redacted.

00:08:01.700 Right?

00:08:01.840 Because we don't know who it is.

00:08:02.540 I can't give you an answer in terms of this specific email.

00:08:04.520 So should that be redacted?

00:08:05.560 Is Donald Trump wrong for redacting?

00:08:06.680 The question about the redactions or not redacting names-

00:08:09.660 Can you talk about the specific email?

00:08:10.680 Well, I could talk about the specific email.

00:08:12.540 The question is, is there sufficient evidence of a crime?

00:08:16.940 And have there been investigations?

00:08:18.100 Do you think that's sufficient evidence of a crime?

00:08:19.680 Not necessarily, because there are a lot of false claims.

00:08:21.680 Really?

00:08:22.200 You mentioned that Trump is all over the files.

00:08:23.700 Wait, an email to Epstein's personal email saying your littlest girl is a little naughty?

00:08:27.060 You don't think that's evidence of a crime?

00:08:28.360 It certainly could be evidence of a crime.

00:08:29.980 Do we think that's evidence of a crime?

00:08:31.280 Does anybody disagree?

00:08:33.120 Okay, good.

00:08:33.780 We have some people agreeing.

00:08:34.600 How about the Republicans?

00:08:35.720 I see a MAGA hat there.

00:08:36.540 Do you guys think that's evidence of a crime?

00:08:38.340 Harry-

00:08:38.840 No?

00:08:39.340 Come on, guys.

00:08:39.800 That's a bad position to take.

00:08:40.740 Let's try to bring it to a tangible question.

00:08:42.800 You said Trump's all over the Epstein files.

00:08:44.740 What are the charges?

00:08:45.720 What are the claims?

00:08:46.440 Do you think he should be prosecuted?

00:08:47.780 I mean, we don't have all the files.

00:08:49.980 So maybe there is something in there that indicates Donald Trump.

00:08:52.500 Well, what we know, I think the behavior is morally abhorrent.

00:08:56.700 And it's not just information that's contained in the Epstein files.

00:08:59.020 We got a Wall Street Journal article that was published December 30th of 2025

00:09:01.840 that talked about how Donald Trump in the 1990s and early 2000s

00:09:05.940 would send young girls to Epstein's house to give him massages.

00:09:08.700 That is only a perk that was given to members of Mar-a-Lago.

00:09:11.560 Epstein was not a member of Mar-a-Lago.

00:09:13.400 He specifically made an exception for Epstein to get massages at his house.

00:09:16.800 And everybody in the spa knew that Epstein was creepy.

00:09:19.340 Donald Trump continued to send them.

00:09:20.580 I'll reiterate my question that you ignored.

00:09:22.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:09:22.240 I'm not done yet.

00:09:22.840 Marla Maples, Donald Trump's wife at the time,

00:09:24.680 even confided in Donald Trump, said that Epstein is creepy.

00:09:27.520 You shouldn't hang out with him.

00:09:28.500 He continued to do it.

00:09:29.060 You didn't answer my question, though.

00:09:30.060 Is there any evidence of a crime that Donald Trump committed

00:09:32.560 that you alluded to that you think he should be prosecuted for?

00:09:34.860 Well, I mean...

00:09:35.480 Well, you mean what?

00:09:36.760 I'll let you answer if you want to.

00:09:38.040 Okay, perfect.

00:09:38.380 In the Epstein files we have so far,

00:09:39.720 because there are still millions out there,

00:09:41.480 I don't think there's enough evidence to prosecute Donald Trump.

00:09:44.020 However, when you're looking at Donald Trump,

00:09:46.600 if he had knowledge that he was sending young girls

00:09:48.600 to Epstein's house to be abused,

00:09:50.540 do you think he should be prosecuted?

00:09:51.340 That's a big if.

00:09:52.060 If wishes were worse, his beggars would rise.

00:09:53.660 We have a Wall Street Journal on that.

00:09:55.640 Wow, really interesting.

00:09:56.680 Not an op-ed.

00:09:57.760 It was fact-checked by the entire

00:09:58.820 Wall Street Journal Department fact-checking.

00:10:00.400 Do you think that if Donald Trump was found,

00:10:02.300 and we have all these Mar-a-Lago employees

00:10:03.660 saying that this happened...

00:10:04.200 Well, this is what I'm asking you.

00:10:04.940 What is the evidence of a crime that he committed?

00:10:06.900 Give me the evidence.

00:10:07.700 Okay, so that Wall Street Journal article.

00:10:09.160 If Donald Trump was...

00:10:09.860 What is the specific crime?

00:10:11.180 He knew that Epstein was creepy,

00:10:12.700 and he was actively sending girls...

00:10:13.920 Knowing someone's creepy is not a crime.

00:10:14.940 What is the crime?

00:10:15.380 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

00:10:18.240 If he's sending young...

00:10:19.340 Trust me, there would be a lot of prosecutions

00:10:20.800 if we could go after everyone we think is creepy.

00:10:22.740 But wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:10:23.140 Okay, sorry, go ahead.

00:10:23.620 If he's sending young girls, 0.99

00:10:25.200 he said in this article,

00:10:26.480 sending young girls to Jeffrey Epstein...

00:10:27.800 Is that not facilitating sex trafficking?

00:10:31.020 It's all based on hypotheticals,

00:10:32.600 the details of which neither of you are provided.

00:10:34.200 It's not hypotheticals.

00:10:34.800 How old are the girls? 0.99

00:10:35.380 Everybody in the spa...

00:10:36.420 Everybody in the spa...

00:10:37.340 When did it happen?

00:10:38.160 Wait, it doesn't...

00:10:38.980 If they're 18 and getting abused,

00:10:40.680 it's still a crime, right?

00:10:41.760 So it doesn't...

00:10:42.280 The age is...

00:10:43.420 What do we mean by abuse?

00:10:45.160 Assaulted.

00:10:46.180 Assaulted.

00:10:46.660 Wait, Virginia Giuffre was picked up from Mar-a-Lago 1.00

00:10:49.080 and assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein...

00:10:50.320 What claims did Virginia Giuffre make? 1.00

00:10:52.120 I mean, she was...

00:10:52.920 It was awful.

00:10:53.960 I mean, it was rape. 1.00

00:10:54.600 It was everything.

00:10:55.560 Against whom?

00:10:57.100 Against Jeffrey Epstein.

00:10:58.280 Against Jeffrey Epstein.

00:10:59.120 And Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:11:00.160 And Prince Andrew.

00:11:01.120 And who else?

00:11:02.040 I mean, I don't know.

00:11:03.060 Who else?

00:11:03.440 There was a very...

00:11:04.140 The biggest case involving Virginia Giuffre

00:11:06.260 involved Alan Dershowitz.

00:11:08.140 That's one of the biggest guys...

00:11:09.120 Throw him in jail.

00:11:09.680 Right.

00:11:09.960 Now, here's one of the problems for this,

00:11:11.300 and it's one of the problems

00:11:11.820 for all the claims you guys are making.

00:11:13.440 Sure.

00:11:13.700 She retracted that claim.

00:11:15.440 In the case of the allegations about Donald Trump,

00:11:17.500 there's a case in which they say

00:11:19.140 that a 13-year-old girl decades ago

00:11:21.460 was raped by Donald Trump.

00:11:23.500 So you say, well, we should look into that

00:11:24.840 if that really happens, shouldn't we?

00:11:26.180 And then when we look a little deeper,

00:11:27.580 we find, oh, actually, this has been adjudicated.

00:11:29.960 There was not only one court case.

00:11:31.360 There were multiple court cases.

00:11:32.980 They withdrew all voluntarily.

00:11:34.120 One second.

00:11:34.840 One in California where it was dismissed by a judge.

00:11:37.280 Two other times she brought it up,

00:11:38.680 represented by Lisa Bloom,

00:11:40.140 and both times she retracted her lawsuit.

00:11:42.260 You're not arguing against what I'm saying.

00:11:43.860 I'm bringing up the specifics.

00:11:44.420 I think I am.

00:11:44.780 I'm saying these are unsubstantiated claims,

00:11:46.620 and you say, well, I've got the Wall Street Journal

00:11:48.100 making big allegations.

00:11:48.640 We have the Wall Street Journal talking.

00:11:49.680 That's not sufficiently predatory.

00:11:50.160 We have the Wall Street Journal

00:11:50.940 talking to multiple Mar-a-Lago employees,

00:11:53.240 not just random people.

00:11:54.120 Okay, but we can't name any crimes.

00:11:55.740 Very interesting.

00:11:56.480 I think that's a crime.

00:11:57.700 What is the crime?

00:11:58.420 I just asked you.

00:11:59.080 Okay, great.

00:11:59.860 You just said you wouldn't prosecute Donald Trump.

00:12:01.180 Facilitating sex trafficking.

00:12:02.120 You just said you wouldn't prosecute Donald Trump.

00:12:03.600 Facilitating sex trafficking.

00:12:04.820 Okay, on what occasion and what circumstance?

00:12:06.440 In the 90s, I just told you,

00:12:07.400 in the 1990s and early 2000s,

00:12:08.800 Epstein was actively having young girls

00:12:10.120 come to his house from Mar-a-Lago Spa.

00:12:11.880 There were a variety of ages.

00:12:13.560 Give me some numbers.

00:12:14.600 There were a variety of ages.

00:12:16.520 Okay, if you know the ages, what are the ages?

00:12:18.160 There were a variety.

00:12:18.800 There were some kids.

00:12:19.780 Virginia Giuffre was a kid

00:12:20.680 when she worked at the Mar-a-Lago Spa.

00:12:22.220 But she did not retracted her claims.

00:12:24.180 That's the point that I'm making.

00:12:24.760 Do you think that Virginia Giuffre

00:12:25.680 lied about the assaults from Epstein?

00:12:27.240 She said that she lied about the assaults.

00:12:28.640 Oh, wow.

00:12:28.980 Okay.

00:12:29.420 Wow.

00:12:30.380 Do we have questions?

00:12:31.600 I'm just trusting her.

00:12:32.680 I believe all women.

00:12:33.680 What's your question?

00:12:34.520 Oh, so you agree that Donald Trump's a rapist.

00:12:35.840 All right, Harry, I have a question for you.

00:12:39.080 Let's establish one fact first.

00:12:42.420 Jeffrey Epstein died in 2019.

00:12:46.800 Joe Biden became president in 2020.

00:12:50.000 The liberal media will do anything

00:12:52.340 to hate on Donald Trump,

00:12:54.840 whether he solve world hunger

00:12:57.240 or even find peace in Gaza or something crazy.

00:13:01.300 There's no peace in Gaza right now, by the way.

00:13:02.440 So they'll do anything to hate on him.

00:13:06.180 If Biden could find something in the Epstein files

00:13:09.620 to have against Donald Trump,

00:13:13.200 why would he not release those?

00:13:15.260 Sure, happy to answer it.

00:13:15.960 He had four years to do it.

00:13:17.660 Why didn't he do it?

00:13:18.980 Happy to answer that.

00:13:19.720 Four years.

00:13:20.840 I heard you the first time.

00:13:21.700 Unlimited access to these documents

00:13:23.420 and he didn't release them.

00:13:24.360 What's that about?

00:13:25.300 I heard you.

00:13:27.240 We are just...

00:13:29.080 So Ghislaine Maxwell's case

00:13:31.620 was still working the way through the courts, right?

00:13:34.420 She was still appealing.

00:13:35.200 There was still a lot going on there,

00:13:36.340 which does restrict certain documents

00:13:38.320 from being released

00:13:39.060 because that's DOJ law.

00:13:40.480 If they're part of an active criminal investigation

00:13:41.980 or prosecution, they can't be released.

00:13:43.740 But Kamala Harris was actually asked this question

00:13:45.340 on Jimmy Kimmel recently.

00:13:46.820 She said, you know, Kimmel said,

00:13:48.100 why didn't she release the Epstein files?

00:13:49.960 And Kamala Harris said,

00:13:50.780 we had an independence between the presidency and the DOJ,

00:13:52.980 which has disappeared under Donald Trump.

00:13:54.740 So Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris went to the DOJ

00:13:57.260 and said, well, we'll release all the Epstein files

00:13:58.920 because we want to hurt Donald Trump.

00:14:00.220 They respected that independence,

00:14:01.680 which should exist,

00:14:02.960 but no longer exists under Donald Trump.

00:14:05.500 The same DOJ that terrorized people

00:14:12.560 that they shouldn't have,

00:14:13.500 the same DOJ that Biden militarized,

00:14:15.980 that same DOJ...

00:14:17.360 Wait, I don't want to lose the point

00:14:19.300 because you make a very good point.

00:14:20.520 You say, well, hold on.

00:14:21.560 It would have been inappropriate

00:14:22.980 for Joe Biden to intervene with the DOJ

00:14:27.120 and to encourage them to release these files.

00:14:30.420 But weren't you just criticizing Donald Trump

00:14:32.940 for not releasing the files?

00:14:34.920 No, no, no.

00:14:35.180 Which he actually did end up releasing.

00:14:36.100 You're misunderstanding my point.

00:14:37.380 I'm very confused.

00:14:38.260 You're misunderstanding my point.

00:14:39.280 Okay.

00:14:39.600 There was an active law

00:14:40.640 working its way through Congress

00:14:41.940 and Donald Trump got involved in that

00:14:43.880 and he's obviously been communicating with the DOJ.

00:14:45.680 A law to mandate this unprecedented

00:14:47.020 release of classified material.

00:14:47.940 Yes.

00:14:48.240 I agree, which I'm circumspect about myself.

00:14:50.840 Okay.

00:14:51.020 I think there are plenty of reasons

00:14:51.860 to keep classified material classified.

00:14:52.880 He was actively involved in this.

00:14:53.640 He was actively taking a role in it.

00:14:54.980 Joe Biden took no role

00:14:55.960 in releasing the Epstein files.

00:14:56.800 He let the DOJ do its own thing.

00:14:59.620 So if the DOJ under President Trump

00:15:02.140 decided not to release the Epstein files,

00:15:04.320 you would support that?

00:15:05.180 Donald Trump, regarding the release

00:15:06.740 of the Epstein files,

00:15:07.560 you're misunderstanding my point.

00:15:10.060 The president should not take a position in this.

00:15:12.600 They should be independent.

00:15:13.560 So Donald Trump took a firm position

00:15:15.000 of no files released.

00:15:16.520 Joe Biden took no position,

00:15:17.700 said, hey, you guys are the lawyers.

00:15:19.480 You're the experts.

00:15:20.300 You're the DOJ.

00:15:21.000 We don't want to be involved.

00:15:21.560 So you would prefer,

00:15:22.340 if President Trump had never voiced an opinion

00:15:23.980 on this hot political matter,

00:15:25.680 you would be,

00:15:26.260 you would prefer if the DOJ...

00:15:28.140 I would prefer Donald Trump

00:15:28.940 not interfere with the process.

00:15:29.600 You would prefer if the DOJ

00:15:30.900 did not release a single document under Trump.

00:15:32.480 I would prefer Donald Trump,

00:15:33.480 on this point in particular,

00:15:34.500 DOJ independence,

00:15:35.260 I would prefer Donald Trump

00:15:36.080 not take a position in being involved.

00:15:37.680 And therefore,

00:15:38.580 you would prefer the DOJ

00:15:39.900 not to release a single document.

00:15:41.960 Well, I mean,

00:15:42.660 they're mandated by law to do so.

00:15:46.180 Before the law was passed.

00:15:47.180 The law that President Trump

00:15:48.060 did campaign against.

00:15:49.180 Hold on, hold on.

00:15:49.920 I would want the DOJ,

00:15:51.820 without a law,

00:15:52.620 to release the files regardless.

00:15:53.880 But they didn't do that under Trump.

00:15:55.240 Once the law is passed...

00:15:56.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:15:56.520 I'm getting real.

00:15:56.980 Hold on, hold on.

00:15:58.120 Can I interject?

00:15:58.800 Maybe you can interject.

00:15:59.400 Can I interject?

00:16:00.100 The federal government right now

00:16:01.600 is set up in a way

00:16:02.280 that is unprecedented

00:16:03.920 for modern American history.

00:16:05.040 For all of modern American history,

00:16:06.260 these three-letter agencies,

00:16:07.200 the DOJ,

00:16:08.040 the FBI,

00:16:08.560 the CDC,

00:16:09.120 they have been largely independent

00:16:10.500 from the presidency,

00:16:11.840 shielded from political pressure.

00:16:13.600 Donald Trump ran on the idea

00:16:15.040 of unitary executive theory

00:16:16.780 outlined in Project 2025.

00:16:18.680 The idea,

00:16:19.560 it's true,

00:16:20.260 the idea that...

00:16:20.980 Unitary executive goes

00:16:22.040 a little further than Project 2025.

00:16:23.940 No, of course, of course.

00:16:24.820 It's been a theory forever,

00:16:25.700 but conservatives have been arguing...

00:16:27.320 A good theory, correct theory.

00:16:28.180 Conservatives have been arguing

00:16:29.260 that the president

00:16:30.100 should have sole control

00:16:31.180 over these agencies.

00:16:32.460 For decades,

00:16:33.080 Donald Trump,

00:16:33.500 on his first day in office,

00:16:34.640 signed Schedule F,

00:16:35.720 giving him the ability,

00:16:36.660 for the first time ever,

00:16:37.720 to mass-fire civil servants

00:16:39.160 at these three-letter agencies.

00:16:40.140 That's not been done before.

00:16:40.880 Not for the first time ever.

00:16:41.840 Okay, but...

00:16:42.400 I mean, the civil services

00:16:43.320 existed for a long time.

00:16:44.320 Okay, of course,

00:16:44.880 but the idea that he could,

00:16:46.040 without any reasoning,

00:16:48.200 fire whoever he wishes

00:16:49.520 at these agencies.

00:16:50.020 Oh, he has reasoning.

00:16:50.620 And fill, hold on,

00:16:51.480 and fill these agencies

00:16:52.380 with loyalists.

00:16:53.920 Now the DOJ

00:16:54.880 does whatever

00:16:55.920 Donald Trump

00:16:56.560 wants him to do,

00:16:57.820 and so if the DOJs...

00:16:58.300 But hold on,

00:16:58.700 they just released

00:16:59.500 all those documents,

00:17:00.580 but you said that Trump

00:17:01.320 did want him to release the documents.

00:17:02.080 They released all the documents

00:17:02.960 after he needed

00:17:03.600 a political off-rail.

00:17:04.580 So the DOJ doesn't...

00:17:05.720 Wait, wait, wait.

00:17:06.060 Hold on, hold on.

00:17:06.640 The DOJ does what

00:17:08.100 Congress wants them to do,

00:17:09.220 or the DOJ does

00:17:10.480 what Donald Trump

00:17:11.000 wants them to do?

00:17:11.400 Congress is useless

00:17:12.140 because it's a bunch of...

00:17:13.420 But I thought you said

00:17:14.140 the documents were only

00:17:15.220 released because of Congress,

00:17:16.100 not because of Trump.

00:17:16.800 Hold on.

00:17:17.120 But then you said that...

00:17:17.800 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:17:19.700 They were forced by the law.

00:17:20.660 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:17:21.380 They were forced by the law.

00:17:22.360 They were forced by the law

00:17:23.160 because Trump

00:17:23.980 and all his Republicans

00:17:25.280 friends in Congress

00:17:26.080 who listened to whatever he says

00:17:27.140 needed a political off-ramp.

00:17:29.280 He's getting killed

00:17:29.840 on this issue

00:17:30.460 because he said,

00:17:31.480 I'm going to release

00:17:32.180 the files on day one.

00:17:33.100 He can do whatever he wants.

00:17:34.560 He can force his DOJ

00:17:35.640 to release all the files.

00:17:36.940 Then Pam Bondi says,

00:17:38.380 I have the files on my desk.

00:17:39.660 Then the files don't exist.

00:17:40.900 Then the whole thing's a hoax

00:17:42.000 and we want to stop talking about it.

00:17:43.160 The client list didn't exist,

00:17:43.820 which it doesn't.

00:17:44.500 But for weeks,

00:17:45.840 it was,

00:17:46.420 oh, we don't want to release

00:17:47.680 these files.

00:17:48.260 The files don't exist.

00:17:49.040 They may exist.

00:17:49.800 And politically,

00:17:50.580 he's getting murdered

00:17:51.360 on this issue.

00:17:52.180 So his friends in Congress

00:17:53.480 passed the law

00:17:54.300 and he's forced,

00:17:55.240 he's forced at that point

00:17:56.480 to do it.

00:17:56.520 So the problem with Trump

00:17:57.440 is that he didn't release

00:17:58.640 all the files

00:17:59.220 and he did release

00:18:00.340 all the files.

00:18:00.540 No, I think the problem,

00:18:01.680 I don't know what to say

00:18:02.560 why you're intentionally

00:18:03.560 disturbing this.

00:18:04.000 I think the problem,

00:18:04.740 I think the problem

00:18:05.360 is the premise of the question.

00:18:06.640 To the person over there

00:18:07.840 who asked,

00:18:08.380 Biden had these files

00:18:09.280 for four years.

00:18:10.560 It's just,

00:18:11.380 that is a gross misunderstanding

00:18:13.460 of how the American

00:18:14.480 government works.

00:18:15.460 The Department of Justice

00:18:16.300 was largely independent

00:18:18.140 from the presidency

00:18:19.300 through all of

00:18:20.320 modern American history

00:18:21.160 up until right now.

00:18:22.540 So Joe Biden

00:18:23.400 and Kamala Harris

00:18:24.180 were not going to

00:18:25.060 hyper-politicize

00:18:26.000 whatever was going on

00:18:26.720 with the DOJ.

00:18:27.020 You think the DOJ

00:18:27.140 was independent

00:18:27.900 and not politicized

00:18:28.920 when he was spying

00:18:29.500 on Catholic churches

00:18:30.240 under Joe Biden?

00:18:31.080 That's it.

00:18:31.620 You think it was not?

00:18:32.440 That's another question.

00:18:33.580 Actually, actually,

00:18:34.300 you think the DOJ

00:18:35.020 was independent

00:18:35.540 of Barack Obama

00:18:36.140 when they were suing

00:18:36.760 nuns for not performing

00:18:37.860 abortions? 0.99

00:18:38.440 Actually, yes.

00:18:39.180 Oh, interesting.

00:18:39.900 And to that person's point.

00:18:40.580 Well, then we got to

00:18:41.140 clear out the DOJ.

00:18:42.040 I'm glad Trump did that.

00:18:42.800 No, no, no.

00:18:43.160 To the person's point,

00:18:44.940 it's like they're almost there.

00:18:46.200 They say, oh,

00:18:46.620 if Joe Biden had the file,

00:18:48.260 if the DOJ

00:18:49.040 was hyper-politicized,

00:18:50.000 they threw all these

00:18:50.580 charges on Trump,

00:18:51.840 then, you know,

00:18:52.660 he didn't release the files

00:18:53.640 because he didn't care.

00:18:54.200 It's like you're

00:18:55.060 almost there, actually.

00:18:56.220 The DOJ indicted Trump

00:18:57.220 not for political reasons

00:18:58.340 because Donald Trump

00:18:58.900 committed crimes.

00:18:59.680 The DOJ went after

00:19:00.580 the groups you're referring to

00:19:01.500 because there is

00:19:02.040 right-wing extremism

00:19:03.320 in the United States.

00:19:04.120 It's one of the largest

00:19:05.060 domestic terror issues

00:19:06.120 of our time.

00:19:06.820 What was that crime

00:19:07.400 that Trump committed?

00:19:08.140 These are just...

00:19:08.800 Donald Trump...

00:19:09.600 It's true.

00:19:10.180 Donald Trump

00:19:10.580 falsified business records

00:19:11.400 in the first degree.

00:19:12.380 Well, that was the

00:19:13.460 case in New York

00:19:14.080 you're talking about.

00:19:14.920 What's the federal case?

00:19:15.840 Classified documents case.

00:19:16.580 Classified documents.

00:19:17.300 We have another question over here.

00:19:18.260 Do you mind to store

00:19:18.600 those classified documents?

00:19:19.540 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:19:21.020 Can we talk about that?

00:19:21.700 The intent was completely different.

00:19:23.920 The intent was completely different.

00:19:24.940 Harry!

00:19:25.660 Who the hell is this guy?

00:19:26.700 Who the hell is this guy?

00:19:28.360 Baby Harry, sweet Harry.

00:19:30.280 You've been talking

00:19:30.940 about scandals,

00:19:32.220 about obfuscation.

00:19:34.720 Oh, yeah, I knew it.

00:19:35.520 We called it.

00:19:36.200 Go ahead.

00:19:36.320 About hiding and cover-ups.

00:19:38.020 Nice.

00:19:38.480 Brother in Christ?

00:19:40.280 Brother in Mola...

00:19:41.900 We didn't have a president

00:19:43.740 for four years.

00:19:45.240 And you covered it up.

00:19:46.940 How is that not worse?

00:19:48.440 You didn't go the direction

00:19:49.520 we thought you were going to go.

00:19:50.080 Why?

00:19:50.180 Um, so...

00:19:52.240 Where'd you think

00:19:52.820 he was going to go?

00:19:54.000 We had a man

00:19:54.840 in severe cognitive decline

00:19:56.800 for four years.

00:19:59.100 Yeah, okay.

00:19:59.520 Not running the country.

00:20:00.380 I hear you.

00:20:00.780 You talk about the DOJ

00:20:01.640 as independent

00:20:02.220 because it was.

00:20:03.620 Yeah, so...

00:20:04.040 Because there was

00:20:04.680 no head of state.

00:20:05.740 How is that not worse?

00:20:07.880 Okay, are you done?

00:20:09.380 Yeah, sorry.

00:20:10.240 Um, yeah, no.

00:20:11.480 Uh, it's hard to make

00:20:12.560 that argument

00:20:12.960 when Joe Biden,

00:20:13.760 and you're going to hate this,

00:20:14.780 Joe Biden was one of

00:20:15.500 the most productive presidents

00:20:16.400 in modern American history.

00:20:17.440 Hey, hey.

00:20:21.680 Go ahead.

00:20:22.520 Go ahead.

00:20:23.740 Go ahead.

00:20:25.160 Absolutely.

00:20:26.580 Absolutely.

00:20:26.900 Oh, I want to talk to you

00:20:27.700 right there, you.

00:20:29.000 I'm going to sit back.

00:20:30.080 Go sit back, please.

00:20:30.780 I'd love to.

00:20:31.800 I bet you and I...

00:20:33.080 I'd love to.

00:20:33.600 Go ahead.

00:20:33.780 I'm going to let you start.

00:20:34.540 You and I could go back and forth

00:20:35.620 on legislation.

00:20:35.860 We could go bar for bar.

00:20:37.560 I just want to...

00:20:38.260 Hold on, hold on.

00:20:38.660 Before Harry goes,

00:20:39.320 I do want to point out,

00:20:40.380 Joe, regardless of if you hated

00:20:41.580 every piece of legislation

00:20:43.140 that was signed into law

00:20:43.900 under Joe Biden,

00:20:44.940 hold on.

00:20:45.800 Joe Biden signed more

00:20:47.420 fiscal legislation into law...

00:20:49.640 Hold on.

00:20:50.940 Did he sign it?

00:20:51.940 Hold on.

00:20:52.260 Can I finish?

00:20:52.900 Can I finish?

00:20:53.480 Can I...

00:20:53.720 I want to point something out.

00:20:54.780 Can I get to the policy as well?

00:20:55.920 I'm going to let you speak.

00:20:56.600 I'm going to let you speak.

00:20:57.660 More fiscal legislation into law

00:20:59.200 than any president

00:21:00.160 in the last 70 years.

00:21:01.540 Up to this point,

00:21:02.340 Donald Trump,

00:21:02.960 who many of you voted for,

00:21:04.160 this huge mandate,

00:21:05.020 he has better lines in Congress.

00:21:07.360 Republicans control the House.

00:21:08.480 Republicans control the Senate.

00:21:09.520 Republicans control the presidency.

00:21:10.860 Up to this point,

00:21:11.480 Donald Trump has passed

00:21:12.640 less legislation

00:21:13.560 than any president

00:21:14.580 in 70 years.

00:21:15.920 All right, listen up.

00:21:16.480 It's 70 years.

00:21:17.480 It's absolutely true.

00:21:18.860 Hold on.

00:21:19.120 So just to clarify,

00:21:20.080 this is sort of a new...

00:21:21.260 I wish this were

00:21:22.100 its own debate topic.

00:21:22.840 I submitted.

00:21:23.300 Joe Biden is the most

00:21:24.680 productive president

00:21:25.800 in recent America.

00:21:26.980 That is true.

00:21:27.660 He did it all while he was sleeping.

00:21:30.080 By the way,

00:21:30.380 Donald Trump is taking credit

00:21:31.800 for some of Biden's policies.

00:21:33.120 So everybody's like booing it.

00:21:34.220 Like he's taking credit.

00:21:35.100 You're cheering for it then.

00:21:35.900 Can anybody name

00:21:36.620 a piece of legislation

00:21:37.480 Donald Trump passed

00:21:38.560 in his first or second term?

00:21:40.160 I want to hear his point.

00:21:42.340 Who said that?

00:21:43.220 We'll talk about that in a second.

00:21:44.620 Defending the incredible efficacy

00:21:46.900 of the Democratic legislature

00:21:48.800 is not a defense

00:21:50.140 of the sleeping Joe Biden.

00:21:51.560 When Joe Biden passed

00:21:52.540 the largest infrastructure bill

00:21:54.080 in American history

00:21:54.900 that rebuilt roads and bridges

00:21:56.720 and removed every single...

00:21:58.300 Wait, be quiet, please.

00:21:59.300 Removed every single lead pipe

00:22:00.360 in America

00:22:01.440 so everybody has

00:22:02.340 clean drinking water.

00:22:03.280 Just to be...

00:22:03.860 Everybody's against

00:22:04.560 lead pipe removal?

00:22:05.500 Everybody?

00:22:06.020 Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude.

00:22:06.680 No, no, okay.

00:22:07.200 Civics.

00:22:07.480 Civics 101.

00:22:08.380 Where do Bill's come from, Harry?

00:22:10.040 Hey, hey.

00:22:10.500 Wait over there.

00:22:11.080 I want to hear Harry's point.

00:22:12.740 Michael says he wants to hear me.

00:22:14.560 You listen to him.

00:22:15.280 It's too good to miss.

00:22:16.380 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:16.860 When Joe Biden passed

00:22:17.660 the PACT Act

00:22:18.520 which invested in healthcare

00:22:19.880 for veterans who were exposed

00:22:20.860 to toxic burn pits abroad.

00:22:22.160 Who's against that?

00:22:22.940 Anyone?

00:22:24.260 Okay, right.

00:22:24.980 So nobody's against that.

00:22:25.500 Who loves the Candy and Puppies Act? 1.00

00:22:27.280 I love the Candy and Puppies Act.

00:22:28.720 When Joe Biden passed

00:22:29.760 the Chips and Science Act

00:22:31.120 to invest in these little chips

00:22:32.280 we have on our phones

00:22:33.020 and these microphones,

00:22:33.740 everything you're looking at

00:22:34.400 to make them here in America

00:22:35.840 and not abroad.

00:22:37.160 Anybody against that?

00:22:38.320 That wasn't an executive order.

00:22:40.060 It was a bill.

00:22:40.820 It came from Congress.

00:22:42.080 Wait, be quiet.

00:22:42.900 Be quiet.

00:22:43.200 What?

00:22:45.720 When do they do that?

00:22:48.380 You're saying Intel

00:22:49.800 laid off 18% of the workforce

00:22:51.640 right after that PACT passed.

00:22:52.780 And has that...

00:22:53.560 Explain that, Harry.

00:22:54.400 Has that trend continued

00:22:55.640 or slowed or gotten better?

00:22:57.320 Has that trend continued

00:22:58.900 or gotten better?

00:22:59.520 Well, you fire a fifth of the company.

00:23:00.260 It's only going to get better from there.

00:23:01.600 And the economy continues

00:23:02.680 to get worse under Donald Trump.

00:23:03.680 You're talking about mass layoffs.

00:23:04.800 Look at Donald Trump.

00:23:05.120 You're talking about

00:23:05.500 all-time stock market highs.

00:23:06.780 You're talking about

00:23:07.340 GDPR expectations.

00:23:07.720 And inflation still up.

00:23:09.200 And gas prices going up.

00:23:10.680 Hold on.

00:23:11.120 Wait, wait, wait.

00:23:12.180 How are manufacturing jobs

00:23:13.420 under Donald Trump?

00:23:14.080 How are manufacturing jobs

00:23:14.840 being eradicated on day one?

00:23:15.920 Manufacturing confidence

00:23:16.720 has gone up.

00:23:17.940 We've lost manufacturing jobs

00:23:19.320 for 14 straight months

00:23:20.700 under Donald J. Trump.

00:23:21.760 He ran on a manufacturing boom.

00:23:22.740 It's hard to rebuild manufacturing

00:23:23.960 after 50 years

00:23:24.820 of de-industrialization.

00:23:25.640 Joe Biden did it.

00:23:27.680 He created 800,000

00:23:29.040 manufacturing jobs

00:23:29.820 in his four years.

00:23:30.500 Yeah, the thing is

00:23:31.100 when you shut

00:23:31.800 an entire economy down

00:23:33.100 artificially

00:23:34.160 and then you restart it.

00:23:35.440 Who was president?

00:23:36.520 Unfortunately,

00:23:37.380 unfortunately,

00:23:38.040 President Trump allowed

00:23:38.900 the Democrat governors

00:23:41.980 to destroy the economy.

00:23:43.140 That's true.

00:23:43.420 Oh, but he did.

00:23:43.980 I'm sorry about that.

00:23:44.740 It's the Democrats somehow.

00:23:45.700 Hold on, hold on.

00:23:46.220 Is Donald Trump-

00:23:46.680 Republican states reopened early?

00:23:47.460 Wait, can we just point out though

00:23:48.760 that I just named

00:23:49.560 three of Biden's biggest policies.

00:23:51.260 Not a single person in this room

00:23:52.380 except that dude

00:23:52.940 with the weird hat back there

00:23:53.820 objected to the policies.

00:23:55.100 You all like it.

00:23:56.000 Yeah, because you know

00:23:56.500 the easy policies

00:23:57.380 that people like.

00:23:58.100 Wait, so what easy policies?

00:23:59.080 Hold on, hold on.

00:23:59.580 Let's protect our veterans

00:24:00.420 back to 2011.

00:24:01.820 These are not easy policies

00:24:02.900 to get done.

00:24:03.500 Donald Trump said

00:24:04.160 it was infrastructure week

00:24:05.020 his entire first term.

00:24:05.820 He didn't get in

00:24:06.160 any infrastructure bill passed.

00:24:07.940 The razor-thin

00:24:09.460 Republican majority

00:24:10.420 in the House

00:24:11.000 does make it tough

00:24:11.780 to legislate.

00:24:11.820 Joe Biden had a smaller majority.

00:24:13.020 The executive orders

00:24:14.000 have been excellent

00:24:14.620 and his economic performance

00:24:15.780 has beaten all expectations.

00:24:15.820 Joe Biden had a smaller majority

00:24:16.280 and he got it done.

00:24:17.640 Joe Biden had a smaller majority

00:24:18.660 and got it done.

00:24:19.200 What's Donald Trump's excuse?

00:24:19.820 Because the Democrats

00:24:20.380 are in lockstep

00:24:21.020 and the Republicans

00:24:21.580 are like hurting cats.

00:24:22.020 Well, Republicans voted for it.

00:24:23.760 All of these are bipartisan.

00:24:24.800 All of these are bipartisan.

00:24:25.680 All of these voted for it.

00:24:26.560 So are you against

00:24:27.320 any of those bills?

00:24:28.280 Are you against

00:24:28.700 any of those bills?

00:24:29.800 Yeah.

00:24:30.440 Why?

00:24:30.980 Because the infrastructure bill

00:24:32.140 had a ton of pork in it.

00:24:33.500 What pork?

00:24:33.820 What pork?

00:24:35.080 What pork?

00:24:36.220 You're talking about

00:24:36.880 like individual bridge projects?

00:24:38.920 Yeah.

00:24:39.960 People being able to drive

00:24:41.180 is a pretty good thing.

00:24:41.900 Not only with the infrastructure bill,

00:24:43.140 not only the infrastructure bill

00:24:44.140 and the inflation reduction act,

00:24:45.340 the problem with those bills

00:24:46.740 is that they passed

00:24:47.980 a lot of nonsense spending

00:24:49.180 that damaged the economy

00:24:50.380 brought.

00:24:50.660 Wait, what specific

00:24:52.060 damaged the economy?

00:24:53.020 What specifically?

00:24:53.600 It increased inflation

00:24:54.360 to 9% under Joe Biden.

00:24:55.520 Okay, what's the connection?

00:24:56.720 9% inflation is pretty bad

00:24:57.780 for the economy, I think, right?

00:24:58.580 What's the connection?

00:24:59.300 What's the connection?

00:24:59.980 Where's the tie?

00:25:01.340 Even Bernie Sanders

00:25:02.180 admitted that the inflation

00:25:03.020 reduction act increased inflation.

00:25:03.260 I'm not asking what Bernie Sanders

00:25:04.200 said.

00:25:04.360 You don't like Bernie Sanders.

00:25:04.940 What is the connection?

00:25:05.520 I don't, but I agree with him here

00:25:06.260 because he agrees

00:25:07.320 with the Republicans.

00:25:08.160 So when all the...

00:25:08.760 I'll give it economics 101.

00:25:10.200 Sure.

00:25:10.400 When you spend a bunch of money

00:25:11.580 on nonsense...

00:25:12.140 Over a 10-year period.

00:25:12.860 Inflation goes up.

00:25:13.520 Over a 10-year period.

00:25:14.360 But Donald Trump

00:25:16.340 has spent a bunch of money.

00:25:17.140 Donald Trump spent more money

00:25:18.320 than Joe Biden did.

00:25:19.780 Under which law?

00:25:21.000 Under his entire term.

00:25:22.300 Hold on, but which law

00:25:23.100 are you pointing to?

00:25:23.300 His first four years?

00:25:24.300 His first four years.

00:25:25.060 Oh, in the first four years.

00:25:25.500 Because you were previously

00:25:26.380 criticizing Trump

00:25:27.320 for not doing anything.

00:25:28.400 Yes.

00:25:28.540 But then when it was convenient

00:25:29.340 for you,

00:25:29.820 you criticized him

00:25:30.440 for doing a lot of things.

00:25:31.280 When you have the tax cuts,

00:25:32.460 when you reduce revenue,

00:25:33.240 you spend more money.

00:25:34.380 There's more debt, right?

00:25:35.400 So under Donald Trump's

00:25:36.440 first four years,

00:25:37.240 he spent more

00:25:38.000 than Joe Biden did

00:25:39.020 in his four years.

00:25:40.820 Because of the...

00:25:41.960 You're talking about

00:25:42.560 because of the lockdowns

00:25:43.780 or because of the tax cuts?

00:25:44.360 Are you getting the tax cuts?

00:25:45.440 Are you getting the tax cuts?

00:25:45.460 Joe Biden...

00:25:46.020 Tax cuts cut spending.

00:25:47.200 Got it.

00:25:47.520 Tax cuts matter.

00:25:48.380 He cut taxes for people

00:25:49.620 and that is spending

00:25:50.400 in the mind of a Democrat.

00:25:51.160 And he tax cuts for wealthy people.

00:25:52.080 I don't think there's

00:25:52.500 any billionaires in the crowd.

00:25:53.420 Okay, Mark.

00:25:54.660 Hey, Michael,

00:25:55.480 long-time fan.

00:25:55.920 What's going on, man?

00:25:56.780 I'm glad to see you here.

00:25:57.640 Long-time listener,

00:25:57.660 first-time caller, yeah.

00:26:00.000 First of all,

00:26:00.520 I want to say,

00:26:01.220 Chris and Harry,

00:26:05.400 to face people that you know

00:26:07.720 disagree with you

00:26:08.580 and some may hate you,

00:26:09.360 that really takes balls. 1.00

00:26:10.640 Speaking of balls,

00:26:11.400 the first lady of France...

00:26:12.880 No, I'm kidding.

00:26:16.120 I'm kidding.

00:26:17.420 Good night, everybody.

00:26:18.220 I do have an actual,

00:26:19.340 like, substantive question.

00:26:20.840 You talk a lot about

00:26:21.900 subverting democracy

00:26:23.440 and the will of the people,

00:26:25.180 but you endorsed a candidate

00:26:26.680 who was nominated

00:26:27.880 to be president

00:26:28.840 without a single vote cast.

00:26:30.880 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:26:32.820 How is that not subversion?

00:26:34.800 I don't know.

00:26:35.400 Okay, you got it.

00:26:35.780 Can I respond?

00:26:36.740 Yeah, well,

00:26:37.360 a couple things here.

00:26:38.420 Who, first of all,

00:26:40.160 with Joe Biden dropping out,

00:26:43.120 there is nobody else

00:26:45.380 at that point in time,

00:26:46.440 the moment Kamala Harris

00:26:47.640 announces that she's

00:26:48.460 going to run for president,

00:26:49.280 there is nobody

00:26:50.140 whose primary is Kamala Harris.

00:26:52.020 People say,

00:26:52.580 why was there not

00:26:53.160 an open primary?

00:26:53.860 Why didn't we get to vote?

00:26:55.320 Because nobody ran against her.

00:26:56.960 Everybody immediately

00:26:57.940 got their,

00:26:58.860 you know,

00:26:59.220 threw their support,

00:27:00.060 all Democrats threw their support

00:27:01.060 behind Kamala Harris,

00:27:02.000 Joe Biden threw support

00:27:02.840 behind Kamala Harris,

00:27:03.700 and again,

00:27:04.320 we actually did vote.

00:27:05.700 We technically,

00:27:06.380 well,

00:27:06.520 the delegate process

00:27:07.500 wasn't in Chicago,

00:27:08.200 but to make it simple,

00:27:09.340 we as registered Democrats

00:27:12.000 got to vote for delegates

00:27:13.160 who then went to Chicago,

00:27:14.820 and every single delegate

00:27:16.480 voted for Kamala Harris

00:27:17.820 to be the nominee.

00:27:18.660 So,

00:27:18.980 that's not subverting democracy.

00:27:20.380 That's absurd.

00:27:21.400 If Democrats wanted

00:27:22.200 a primary process,

00:27:23.740 then somebody has to

00:27:24.600 primary Kamala Harris.

00:27:25.660 Nobody primary Kamala Harris.

00:27:27.220 Why not?

00:27:27.680 Because she was just

00:27:28.640 such a great candidate?

00:27:29.600 She was a good candidate.

00:27:30.900 Wait,

00:27:31.460 wait,

00:27:31.800 wait,

00:27:32.180 she was,

00:27:32.920 I think to Harry's point,

00:27:34.440 the Biden-Harris administration

00:27:35.640 was incredibly productive.

00:27:37.340 They did a lot of good things.

00:27:38.600 Yeah,

00:27:39.140 that's just wrong.

00:27:40.340 That's just wrong.

00:27:40.900 Y'all can boo all you want.

00:27:41.360 That's just wrong.

00:27:41.960 It's just not true.

00:27:42.640 Again,

00:27:43.220 passed more fiscal legislation

00:27:45.240 than any administration

00:27:46.100 in seven decades.

00:27:47.820 They showed for the first time

00:27:48.720 in a long time

00:27:49.240 that with bipartisan support,

00:27:51.060 you can get things done.

00:27:51.800 So yes,

00:27:52.040 Kamala Harris was a very strong

00:27:53.040 bipartisan support.

00:27:54.120 You can make eggs

00:27:55.060 cost $11 a dozen.

00:27:56.460 What did Joe Biden do

00:27:57.800 to cause that?

00:27:58.560 Yeah,

00:27:58.920 two things to answer the question.

00:27:59.980 What did Joe Biden do

00:28:00.900 to cause that?

00:28:01.360 You guys talk a lot

00:28:02.240 about the DNC.

00:28:02.980 Wait,

00:28:03.360 wait,

00:28:03.480 wait,

00:28:03.780 wait,

00:28:03.900 wait,

00:28:04.020 wait,

00:28:04.580 wait,

00:28:04.860 hold on.

00:28:07.140 Because you talk about,

00:28:09.480 oh,

00:28:09.640 we could vote on delegates.

00:28:10.820 The DNC and the RNC,

00:28:12.440 for that matter,

00:28:12.960 are private clubs.

00:28:14.100 Yeah.

00:28:14.340 So they can make the rules.

00:28:15.520 They can do whatever they want.

00:28:16.720 And there is no actual democracy

00:28:18.740 in those private clubs.

00:28:20.720 They can pick whoever they want.

00:28:22.380 They can change the rules

00:28:23.500 to be like,

00:28:24.000 oh,

00:28:24.580 if Joe Biden falls down the stairs,

00:28:26.460 then Hillary Clinton

00:28:28.300 is automatically the nominee.

00:28:30.460 She would push him.

00:28:31.360 I agree,

00:28:31.980 Michael,

00:28:32.300 but it's not really

00:28:33.720 a democratic process.

00:28:34.920 Wait,

00:28:35.040 but I don't understand

00:28:35.700 that.

00:28:36.760 Then what's the question?

00:28:38.580 Like you say,

00:28:39.220 we talk about,

00:28:40.140 hold on,

00:28:40.760 hold on,

00:28:41.900 because we're talking

00:28:42.600 about subverting democracy.

00:28:43.600 I mean,

00:28:44.000 Donald Trump lost an election,

00:28:46.280 knew he lost an election,

00:28:47.440 spent months perpetrating

00:28:48.960 the lie that he won

00:28:49.800 the 2020 election.

00:28:51.120 Hold on.

00:28:51.640 He went,

00:28:52.380 eh.

00:28:53.000 Yeah.

00:28:53.560 He lost stolen.

00:28:54.760 Hold on,

00:28:55.160 hold on.

00:28:55.540 Hold on.

00:28:56.100 We're going to,

00:28:56.860 hold on.

00:28:57.160 We're going to,

00:28:57.460 you're an idiot. 0.99

00:28:57.940 Yeah,

00:28:58.080 yeah,

00:28:58.220 yeah.

00:28:58.380 We're going to,

00:28:58.760 we're going to come back to that.

00:28:59.780 But again,

00:29:00.220 Donald,

00:29:00.540 Donald Trump,

00:29:01.140 Donald Trump spent months

00:29:02.300 perpetrating a lie

00:29:03.580 that he won the 2020 election

00:29:05.120 when all of his advisors

00:29:06.180 told him that he lost.

00:29:08.220 He still believes

00:29:08.960 he lost the 2020 election.

00:29:10.460 He's,

00:29:10.720 we're witnessing

00:29:11.440 the largest expansion

00:29:12.420 of executive authority

00:29:13.700 in our entire lifetimes.

00:29:15.440 Okay.

00:29:15.620 Donald Trump is interested

00:29:16.540 in nothing but power.

00:29:17.900 I don't understand.

00:29:18.280 But to this person's point,

00:29:20.660 I don't understand

00:29:21.300 how that relates to like,

00:29:22.980 because you guys say,

00:29:23.820 you're saying that you guys

00:29:26.260 say you're such lowercase

00:29:27.360 D Democrats 0.76

00:29:27.960 and power to the people

00:29:28.880 and more involvement

00:29:29.620 for more people is good.

00:29:30.840 And you don't even want

00:29:31.580 voter ID.

00:29:32.300 You want that many people

00:29:33.040 to be involved

00:29:33.600 and you don't want

00:29:33.940 to discourage anyone.

00:29:34.740 And yet then you,

00:29:35.760 out of the other side

00:29:36.360 of your mouth, 0.61

00:29:36.760 you say,

00:29:37.160 no,

00:29:37.520 it's great.

00:29:38.020 These parties are private clubs.

00:29:39.300 And if they just pick

00:29:40.080 the nominee,

00:29:40.600 that's fine.

00:29:41.100 I don't think we've ever

00:29:41.680 said it's great,

00:29:42.660 right?

00:29:42.880 Like they make great.

00:29:43.540 You're defending.

00:29:44.440 That was,

00:29:44.800 I think that was,

00:29:45.200 no,

00:29:45.760 what I was defending

00:29:48.600 is that people say,

00:29:49.580 why was there not a primary?

00:29:50.920 And I just say,

00:29:51.500 there literally can't be

00:29:52.440 a primary when there's

00:29:53.360 nobody else running.

00:29:54.620 If Democrats want a primary,

00:29:56.600 someone else has to run.

00:29:57.660 Kamala Harris was,

00:29:58.240 she was just too good.

00:29:59.280 She was just too good.

00:30:00.040 Okay.

00:30:00.400 So the question,

00:30:03.020 who wins the VIP round?

00:30:04.860 Who gets to go to the table?

00:30:07.420 I hear number one.

00:30:08.840 I hear number two.

00:30:10.120 Mr. Davies.

00:30:11.240 I can't,

00:30:11.820 I don't,

00:30:12.180 at the mic,

00:30:12.840 who was it?

00:30:13.960 Who votes for free?

00:30:15.760 Who says it was,

00:30:17.640 who says it was Mark?

00:30:21.440 I don't know.

00:30:22.320 Who do you,

00:30:22.760 who do we say?

00:30:23.680 Mark.

00:30:23.700 It's like Mark Lund.

00:30:24.780 All right.

00:30:25.580 Hold on.

00:30:25.860 Can we,

00:30:26.140 can we,

00:30:26.380 can we do a recount

00:30:27.540 of the votes?

00:30:28.360 Yeah.

00:30:28.620 Can we do a recount?

00:30:29.740 This is some Bush v. Gore stuff.

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00:32:32.120 I actually like these things.

00:32:33.340 Oh, you can just twist it.

00:32:34.780 Oh.

00:32:35.300 All right.

00:32:35.720 Mike, we're no,

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00:32:38.540 Cheers.

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00:32:39.640 Chin chin. 0.85

00:32:43.360 Nice.

00:32:44.060 I poisoned it.

00:32:45.060 No, I didn't.

00:32:45.740 Wouldn't that be crazy

00:32:46.380 if I did not?

00:32:47.560 Okay.

00:32:48.720 Chris, what's your topic?

00:32:49.880 My topic is

00:32:51.300 Trump's ICE raids

00:32:52.800 respect no limits.

00:32:54.320 No limits.

00:32:54.960 They have no limits.

00:32:55.780 Okay.

00:32:56.640 What's your argument?

00:32:57.860 Look, my argument is this.

00:32:59.440 Donald Trump,

00:33:00.200 especially with, again,

00:33:01.500 the expansion of executive authority

00:33:03.440 we have seen,

00:33:04.420 there are masked agents

00:33:05.480 running around

00:33:06.420 our communities

00:33:07.500 to, obviously,

00:33:08.660 the dismay

00:33:09.200 of the American people

00:33:10.340 for political gain,

00:33:12.580 okay?

00:33:12.980 These people at ICE,

00:33:14.380 the actual individuals

00:33:15.760 within ICE themselves,

00:33:16.940 are not qualified

00:33:17.940 to be ICE agents.

00:33:19.040 A lot of them

00:33:19.560 are being hired

00:33:20.740 with a few,

00:33:22.780 little oversight,

00:33:24.120 I should say.

00:33:25.500 What is it?

00:33:25.780 Pam, 0.70

00:33:26.460 the organization itself

00:33:28.020 lowering the requirements

00:33:29.220 for ICE agents.

00:33:30.440 They're running ads

00:33:31.480 targeting people

00:33:32.440 who show up

00:33:32.960 at specific bars

00:33:33.880 who are interested

00:33:35.020 in certain conservative ideals.

00:33:37.440 They're hiring people

00:33:38.560 who are...

00:33:39.280 We gotta get on the list

00:33:40.220 for this show, I think.

00:33:41.160 We gotta get some ICE agents.

00:33:42.620 They're hiring people

00:33:43.260 who are pro-Trump,

00:33:44.680 who are very conservative,

00:33:46.320 and they can, frankly,

00:33:47.420 do whatever they want.

00:33:48.200 They have the backing

00:33:48.780 of the federal government.

00:33:49.580 We saw two U.S. citizens

00:33:51.560 executed in broad daylight

00:33:53.080 on video,

00:33:54.300 and though the DOJ

00:33:56.120 was not interested

00:33:56.720 in investigating those cases,

00:33:58.000 Donald Trump backing it up

00:33:59.340 and saying,

00:33:59.780 I love it.

00:34:00.780 There's no limits here.

00:34:01.840 Michael, they do whatever they want.

00:34:03.860 Okay, a few points here.

00:34:04.740 One, there are no investigations

00:34:06.300 into the officer-involved killing

00:34:08.140 which would say we're no good.

00:34:09.240 There's no federal investigation?

00:34:10.220 No, I think if we're being good faith,

00:34:12.660 there is no investigation.

00:34:14.220 Immediately after what happened

00:34:15.620 with Alex Preddy,

00:34:16.600 the DOJ came out

00:34:17.500 and they said,

00:34:18.200 immediately,

00:34:18.960 Pam Bondi said, 0.89

00:34:19.620 this guy's a domestic terrorist.

00:34:21.480 The administration,

00:34:22.240 J.D. Vance,

00:34:22.720 said he's a domestic terrorist.

00:34:24.060 He was there to do

00:34:25.160 all this horrible stuff.

00:34:26.480 It's pretty clear

00:34:27.240 they immediately laid the groundwork

00:34:28.680 for we don't need to investigate this,

00:34:30.180 and as far as I'm aware...

00:34:31.080 It's like a very factual question.

00:34:32.340 Are there investigations

00:34:33.100 into the shooting?

00:34:33.640 I am not aware

00:34:34.460 of the DOJ

00:34:35.120 currently investigating

00:34:35.960 the shooting,

00:34:36.640 the actual officer himself

00:34:38.120 involved in Alex Preddy's shooting.

00:34:40.100 What about Renee Goode? 0.94

00:34:41.400 There are investigations in there,

00:34:42.840 but we would obviously agree.

00:34:44.340 I think that the DOJ,

00:34:46.060 my understanding is that

00:34:46.820 the DOJ is more interested

00:34:47.900 in investigating

00:34:48.660 what happened

00:34:49.880 as opposed to potential wrongdoing.

00:34:51.400 They're more interested

00:34:51.920 in investigating

00:34:52.480 if Renee Goode is a criminal

00:34:53.700 as opposed to what I did.

00:34:54.720 People resign from the Civil Rights Division

00:34:55.580 of the Department of Justice

00:34:56.420 like eight or ten prosecutors

00:34:57.840 because the specific division

00:34:59.800 that's used

00:35:00.500 to investigate police shootings

00:35:01.520 said that they were not

00:35:02.320 investigating it.

00:35:03.220 Yeah, I would say

00:35:03.980 that as many people

00:35:05.000 as can resign

00:35:05.700 from those civil rights offices

00:35:07.000 is probably for the better

00:35:08.280 because it often is...

00:35:09.000 Michael knows, everybody.

00:35:10.060 It often is liberal activists

00:35:11.100 You're discriminated against

00:35:11.980 who are applying it.

00:35:12.500 Do you have any evidence of that?

00:35:13.960 That the civil rights offices

00:35:15.120 are run by...

00:35:15.860 That these places are...

00:35:16.360 Yeah, well, here's some evidence.

00:35:17.960 And this actually does relate

00:35:19.340 to another recent case,

00:35:21.200 which is that on the topic

00:35:22.560 of like the FACE Act,

00:35:23.760 which is a version

00:35:25.220 of a civil rights law,

00:35:26.280 it's only ever applied

00:35:27.280 to protect abortion clinics

00:35:28.320 and virtually never applied

00:35:29.280 to protect churches.

00:35:30.320 Wait.

00:35:30.840 Including the church

00:35:32.340 that was at issue in Minnesota.

00:35:33.920 Wait, wait, but that's not your...

00:35:34.760 Your claim is that

00:35:35.460 there's like this almost...

00:35:36.380 My claim is that

00:35:36.920 the civil rights regime

00:35:37.760 tends to only track left

00:35:39.440 and doesn't actually protect

00:35:40.760 the rights of people on the right.

00:35:41.980 That's my claim.

00:35:43.000 However, it's a slightly side point.

00:35:45.220 The chief topic you're making

00:35:46.680 or the chief claim you're making

00:35:47.840 is that Trump's ICE

00:35:49.080 respects no limits.

00:35:50.460 How about the differences

00:35:51.260 between how ICE operates

00:35:52.520 in red states versus blue states?

00:35:53.940 In red states,

00:35:55.320 the majority of people

00:35:56.680 that ICE picks up

00:35:57.680 are already in prison,

00:35:58.940 have already been arrested.

00:36:00.220 The majority...

00:36:00.720 Why is that?

00:36:01.080 Hold on.

00:36:01.380 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:36:02.080 Why is that?

00:36:02.300 No, no, no, no, no.

00:36:02.920 Is it because in the blue states,

00:36:04.360 the governors and the mayors

00:36:05.880 will not cooperate with ICE

00:36:07.460 to hand over

00:36:08.160 the criminal illegal aliens?

00:36:09.060 No, no, no.

00:36:09.780 You don't care about crime.

00:36:11.760 You don't care about crime.

00:36:12.560 I do care about crime.

00:36:13.140 You voted for a convicted felon.

00:36:15.240 Yeah, I care about

00:36:16.200 the real criminals.

00:36:17.120 That's a real crime.

00:36:18.220 I went to a jury,

00:36:18.680 got convicted.

00:36:19.860 Falsifying business records

00:36:20.640 in the first degree.

00:36:21.420 He was also indicted

00:36:21.960 in three other jurisdictions.

00:36:23.180 What's the penalty?

00:36:23.660 Well, he didn't get a penalty

00:36:24.420 because he got elected president.

00:36:25.600 Hold on.

00:36:26.400 Well, the civil penalty.

00:36:27.680 What's the civil penalty for that?

00:36:28.800 What do you mean?

00:36:29.120 It was a criminal case.

00:36:30.060 In the case of falsifying

00:36:31.200 business records,

00:36:31.940 there was a penalty to be paid

00:36:33.380 which had a dollar number on it.

00:36:35.560 Oh, yeah.

00:36:35.960 I mean, there's a fine

00:36:36.620 or a possible jail time.

00:36:38.080 But he didn't get any of that.

00:36:39.320 And why,

00:36:41.060 even before he was elected president,

00:36:42.860 why would the penalty

00:36:44.380 have been reduced by the judge?

00:36:45.780 Why would the penalty

00:36:46.360 have been reduced?

00:36:47.020 Because it was excessive

00:36:48.280 and it was obviously

00:36:48.880 politically motivated.

00:36:49.000 No, it depends on a variety

00:36:49.800 of factors.

00:36:50.200 If he's a repeat offender,

00:36:51.540 for example,

00:36:51.980 that's why they might reduce

00:36:53.080 or increase a penalty.

00:36:54.740 But Donald Trump,

00:36:55.240 the reason that Donald Trump

00:36:55.940 is not sitting,

00:36:56.740 and they're going to hate

00:36:57.180 this one as well,

00:36:57.700 the reason that Donald Trump

00:36:58.480 is not sitting in prison right now

00:36:59.900 is because he got elected

00:37:00.620 president of the United States.

00:37:01.600 And that's the truth.

00:37:02.200 In the case of the,

00:37:05.580 we're getting a little

00:37:06.420 far afield here,

00:37:07.180 but in the case of the

00:37:08.340 falsifying business records,

00:37:09.580 it is interesting

00:37:10.200 that a judge actually weighed in

00:37:11.840 and said this is

00:37:12.680 an excessive penalty

00:37:13.540 for what's basically

00:37:14.500 a bogus crime.

00:37:15.280 But it's a side point.

00:37:16.200 We'll get back to you.

00:37:17.040 Yeah, so back to this point.

00:37:19.500 Again, they're clearly operating,

00:37:21.480 can you name the instances?

00:37:23.220 I mean, we're clearly seeing

00:37:24.260 the majority of ICE agents

00:37:25.360 in these blue states.

00:37:26.480 It's clearly for political gain.

00:37:28.680 I mean, Donald Trump

00:37:29.460 is sending ICE agents

00:37:30.360 into places like Minnesota,

00:37:31.900 which is historically close

00:37:33.220 to the southern border.

00:37:34.020 It's right there, isn't it?

00:37:34.700 I'm aware.

00:37:35.500 And furthermore, furthermore.

00:37:36.360 Hold on, just to the,

00:37:37.760 these blue states

00:37:39.100 and these blue cities

00:37:39.960 are openly declaring themselves

00:37:41.920 sanctuary cities and states.

00:37:43.500 They are saying,

00:37:44.280 we want illegal aliens 1.00

00:37:45.440 to come here.

00:37:46.000 And you're shocked

00:37:46.980 that the border patrol

00:37:48.540 and ICE will go in

00:37:49.520 and say, well,

00:37:49.980 maybe we'll arrest

00:37:50.540 those illegal aliens 1.00

00:37:51.180 where they say that they are.

00:37:52.240 Wait, wait, so you believe

00:37:52.880 that the role of the federal government

00:37:54.260 is to enforce

00:37:55.380 federal immigration law.

00:37:56.440 Wait, so I am saying that.

00:37:57.820 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:37:58.220 Even against the will,

00:37:59.120 even against the will of states

00:38:00.460 and against the will of-

00:38:01.500 Yes, it's federal law.

00:38:02.440 Even if it's-

00:38:03.000 There's a supremacy clause

00:38:03.540 in our constitution.

00:38:04.280 And I also, I also,

00:38:05.160 I also want to point out

00:38:07.180 that like, again,

00:38:08.200 this actually goes back

00:38:09.400 to the premise,

00:38:10.840 the idea that you,

00:38:12.020 for some reason,

00:38:12.680 believe that illegal immigration

00:38:13.960 and Donald Trump believes

00:38:14.860 that illegal immigration 0.98

00:38:15.540 is this massive problem

00:38:17.300 that requires-

00:38:17.920 Yeah, there are like

00:38:18.340 20 million of them

00:38:19.120 in our country.

00:38:19.420 No, first of all,

00:38:19.760 there's not 20 million.

00:38:22.260 There's 10,

00:38:22.800 there was a maximum

00:38:23.560 of 10 million border encounters

00:38:25.160 under Joe Biden.

00:38:26.200 And obviously if Border Patrol

00:38:27.180 encounters somebody,

00:38:28.120 they were probably arrested.

00:38:29.180 Illegal immigration, 0.99

00:38:29.760 I mean, that is a shocking number,

00:38:30.800 but illegal immigration

00:38:31.460 actually predates Joe Biden,

00:38:33.080 believe it or not.

00:38:33.640 Of course.

00:38:34.200 It actually goes back

00:38:34.460 a few more decades.

00:38:35.420 Hold on, hold on.

00:38:35.920 But my point being here

00:38:37.280 is that why are we demonizing

00:38:39.280 these communities

00:38:40.720 and demonizing- 0.88

00:38:41.620 Because they're criminals

00:38:42.600 and they have no right

00:38:43.380 to be here.

00:38:43.820 You voted for a criminal.

00:38:44.980 Hold on, hold on.

00:38:45.320 You voted for a criminal.

00:38:47.380 You can't get away from that.

00:38:48.460 Hold on, hold on.

00:38:49.340 Hold on.

00:38:49.540 Besides the fact,

00:38:50.420 besides the fact

00:38:51.140 that they entered

00:38:51.920 the United States illegally,

00:38:53.160 why do you not,

00:38:54.120 why do you think

00:38:54.520 that this is such a big problem?

00:38:55.560 That Donald Trump

00:38:56.460 needs to be sending

00:38:57.280 federal agents into cities.

00:38:58.900 Yes.

00:38:59.680 Militarizing our cities.

00:39:00.480 Because many decades ago,

00:39:02.180 the United States Congress

00:39:03.780 passed a law-

00:39:05.000 Okay, I don't-

00:39:05.480 Hold on, hold on.

00:39:06.040 Let me just answer your question.

00:39:07.060 You say,

00:39:07.320 why do I care

00:39:08.340 that people are violating

00:39:09.280 our basic laws

00:39:09.960 and coming into our country 1.00

00:39:10.840 and committing crimes

00:39:11.940 and using our resources

00:39:13.300 and living here illegally?

00:39:14.780 That's what you're asking.

00:39:15.780 That's what they're doing.

00:39:17.000 So my answer is

00:39:18.540 because many moons ago,

00:39:20.140 the American people

00:39:20.980 elected legislators to Congress

00:39:22.820 and Congress passed laws

00:39:24.420 about our immigration system

00:39:26.080 and they said

00:39:26.820 some people can come in,

00:39:27.840 some people can't stay here,

00:39:28.740 there's a way to come in

00:39:29.760 and there's a federal law.

00:39:31.460 That's how our democracy

00:39:32.640 is supposed to function.

00:39:34.040 Because of that,

00:39:34.980 people elected Donald Trump

00:39:36.020 with the popular vote in 2024

00:39:37.340 specifically to deport

00:39:39.640 the illegal aliens 0.98

00:39:40.460 who are here.

00:39:41.180 Both parties agreed on this

00:39:42.440 until very, very recently,

00:39:44.040 well up through

00:39:44.660 the Obama administration.

00:39:45.140 So you spoke up

00:39:46.340 when Kilmar Abrego-Garcia

00:39:49.000 was illegally deported,

00:39:50.280 which by the way,

00:39:50.760 the Trump administration

00:39:51.580 admitted in court themselves

00:39:52.920 and the Supreme Court

00:39:53.540 ruled 9-0 against that.

00:39:54.220 When the illegal alien 0.99

00:39:55.080 gangbanger whitefeeder

00:39:56.380 got deported to Bukele,

00:39:57.720 I did not shed a single tear.

00:39:59.080 Oh, wait, okay.

00:40:00.140 Michael, so you see,

00:40:01.420 you pick and choose

00:40:02.380 and you care about federal law.

00:40:03.840 No, no, I'm glad

00:40:04.660 that he got deported.

00:40:05.920 But it's against federal law.

00:40:07.480 The Supreme Court

00:40:07.920 ruled against Donald Trump.

00:40:09.020 Was Kilmar Abrego-Garcia

00:40:10.200 an American citizen,

00:40:11.260 a legal resident,

00:40:12.040 or was he an illegal alien?

00:40:13.100 You're taking,

00:40:14.160 no, no, no, you're

00:40:15.360 misinterpreting my point.

00:40:16.220 It's a very simple question.

00:40:17.060 You think.

00:40:17.900 You won't answer it, though.

00:40:18.860 Wait, what was your question?

00:40:19.700 Was Kilmar Abrego-Garcia

00:40:20.100 an American citizen

00:40:21.120 or was he an illegal alien?

00:40:22.640 He was here legally.

00:40:24.500 Kilmar Abrego-Garcia

00:40:25.440 was not here legally.

00:40:26.840 Yes, he was.

00:40:27.580 He was not here legally.

00:40:28.160 He absolutely was.

00:40:29.080 He was absolutely here.

00:40:29.720 He had humanitarian parole.

00:40:32.140 There we go.

00:40:32.860 Which is legal.

00:40:33.920 That's a legal.

00:40:34.680 Wait, that's a legal.

00:40:35.080 Wait, that's a legal.

00:40:36.540 Hold on, Michael,

00:40:37.320 you can't claim to care

00:40:38.560 about federal law.

00:40:40.880 You can't claim to care

00:40:41.820 about federal law

00:40:42.440 while also endorsing

00:40:43.320 Donald Trump ignoring

00:40:44.240 a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling.

00:40:46.080 Yeah, I would say

00:40:47.100 that when we have people

00:40:49.440 who've entered

00:40:49.860 this country illegally,

00:40:51.160 whether they have

00:40:52.020 a temporary protective status,

00:40:53.620 whether they are

00:40:54.180 on their path

00:40:54.980 to becoming

00:40:55.600 an American citizen,

00:40:56.600 if they are people

00:40:57.420 who are not good

00:40:58.120 for our country,

00:40:58.820 who have no legal right

00:41:00.100 to be here permanently,

00:41:01.000 we got to boot them out.

00:41:01.680 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:41:07.260 So the law, the law regardless.

00:41:08.820 Hold on.

00:41:09.380 Oh, yeah, right, right.

00:41:10.120 The law regardless.

00:41:11.580 We'll bring it back.

00:41:12.380 We'll bring it back.

00:41:12.940 Hey, guys, this is Mary Margaret.

00:41:14.720 I'm Daily Wire's White House correspondent.

00:41:16.760 Oh, my dear.

00:41:17.900 Wait, what did he say?

00:41:18.760 She's the Daily Wire White House correspondent, Mary Margaret O'Hare.

00:41:21.880 Very nice.

00:41:22.600 All right, I have a 2028 question for you guys.

00:41:25.080 Do we think that J.D. Vance or Gavin Newsom has a better chance?

00:41:28.820 And is Gavin Newsom telling the truth when he says that he doesn't really support men and women's sports?

00:41:35.360 That's a fascinating question.

00:41:36.960 That is a fascinating question.

00:41:37.700 Actually, I got a question.

00:41:38.280 I appreciate that.

00:41:38.820 We raised the caliber with Mary Margaret.

00:41:41.060 That's nice.

00:41:42.040 That's a great question.

00:41:44.080 Well, look.

00:41:44.800 You want to take it first or you want me to go?

00:41:45.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:46.160 Let me start with the first question.

00:41:47.520 You got it.

00:41:48.080 Which was Gavin Newsom or J.D. Vance, okay?

00:41:51.720 The Trump administration is historically unpopular.

00:41:54.560 They are underwater in every single issue that got them elected.

00:41:57.360 I know, hold, hold, it doesn't matter.

00:41:59.400 It doesn't matter.

00:41:59.940 You're losing now, brother.

00:42:00.700 Because I know how we all feel about polls, right?

00:42:02.840 But the polls that got him elected have flipped on their head.

00:42:05.140 A CNN poll from October, hold on, from October of 20, no, no, I know, I know, hold on, hold on.

00:42:09.620 Don't cry.

00:42:09.920 Hold on.

00:42:10.220 A CNN poll, this is just one example.

00:42:12.020 A CNN poll from October of 2024, from October of 2024, Donald Trump was plus 11 on inflation in the economy.

00:42:19.180 It's why he won the election.

00:42:20.380 That same poll right now, he's underwater, 27 points.

00:42:23.060 A Fox News poll showed that, like, 68% of Americans felt like ICE was going too far in the things that they were doing.

00:42:29.660 They're historically unpopular.

00:42:31.140 J.D. Vance sucks.

00:42:32.040 He doesn't believe in anything, okay?

00:42:33.600 At least, no, no, he does.

00:42:35.300 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:42:36.740 How many of you, how many of you, how many of you like Donald Trump in this room?

00:42:40.980 Okay, okay.

00:42:42.500 Pause, pause, pause.

00:42:43.900 So, in 2015, when J.D. Vance said that Donald Trump was America's Hitler, that he was an awful guy, did he just stop believing that?

00:42:51.200 What happened there?

00:42:52.300 He was, yeah, he, oh, don't make mistakes, don't make mistakes.

00:42:54.420 No, he was persuaded by evidence, like my friend Ben Shapiro.

00:42:57.340 Ben Shapiro was very anti-Trump.

00:42:58.960 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:43:01.000 He wasn't persuaded by evidence.

00:43:02.160 He lost all of his values and his morals because he got to be vice president of the United States.

00:43:06.180 And in the Republican Party, and in the Republican Party, you cannot be an elected official and not bow down to Donald Trump.

00:43:12.340 Are you accusing Ben Shapiro of losing his values and morals?

00:43:14.700 Hold on.

00:43:15.040 Are you accusing Glenn Beckham of losing his values?

00:43:16.200 I'm not, I'm not, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's, you know, he's a political threat in 20-20.

00:43:20.460 Wait, no, no, that's a straw man, I'm just, you, you can, I've changed, I've changed, I've changed, and they all changed their minds.

00:43:25.260 Hold on, I've changed my views over time.

00:43:27.300 I'm just, in this particular instance, J.D. Vance obviously.

00:43:31.100 You don't apply the same standard to Ben Shapiro of Glenn Beckham.

00:43:33.140 I don't apply the same standard when J.D. Vance could become vice president of the United States.

00:43:36.600 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:43:38.120 no no his entire his entire career his entire career depends on him loving donald trump just

00:43:44.880 like all these other republican elected officials who hated donald trump previously who we know they

00:43:49.720 probably still hate him now but they don't have a choice why did the other never trumpers change

00:43:53.620 their minds why did what what never yeah what never trumpers changed their mind shapiro and

00:43:58.100 glenn beck okay i would because he became the republican nominee they're gonna vote for him

00:44:01.820 no matter what you think it was just so now you're changing your opinion now you say they

00:44:04.700 were just cynical they're liars no no no i i mean i feel like you're trying to i'm just trying to

00:44:08.920 clarify no you're trying you're trying a different standard to jd vance than you are to everyone

00:44:12.500 because i think that jd vance it's just a one unique person who's in a unique spot to be vice

00:44:16.680 president united states everybody else might have their different reasons i agree you're nervous

00:44:19.760 no no no no no no no no hold on hold on hold on has jd vance has jd vance ever explained what caused

00:44:25.480 him to change his mind many times yes i don't know i've never heard a good answer for that

00:44:29.440 president president trump's performance in office yeah really i just i just want to point out i just

00:44:33.560 i just want to point out i just want to point out we didn't go from oh i don't love donald trump

00:44:38.340 to i like him we he said quote donald trump is america's hitler to apparently loving him so much

00:44:45.200 he's now the vice president of the united states turns out he wasn't hitler it was actually pretty

00:44:48.220 good well harry before we go you you had a point you said you're not afraid of oh no i'm not i'm not

00:44:52.500 afraid of jd vance and on her question nobody should be afraid of jd vance i mean look at the guy

00:44:56.580 yeah you said a little afraid but you don't i'm not i'm not afraid of jd vance uh i think gavin

00:45:00.940 newsom has a better chance if you're just looking at it from a data standpoint you can

00:45:04.400 boo you want the data doesn't lie if you're looking at it from a data standpoint gavin newsom i believe

00:45:08.200 has a better chance right now and then what was your the follow-up what is that it uh whether whether

00:45:13.920 it was going to be newsom or vance mary margaret what was the follow-up is that did we answer

00:45:18.140 everything oh women's oh yeah that's right i think he's telling the truth yeah i think he's telling 0.91

00:45:23.000 the truth so hold on what the truth about what what i think what is newsom's current claim yes you

00:45:27.920 asked does gavin newsom agree with uh men not playing in women's sports is that right 0.99

00:45:31.880 oh it's not her oh where is she so i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm i'm flattered that he thinks i'm

00:45:39.580 mary margaret so he says gavin newsom now says men shouldn't be in women's sports but he previously

00:45:44.300 did not say that we were just talking about do you think well the question is do you think that

00:45:48.900 was a sincere change i do think it's i do think it's a cynical political i do think he's telling

00:45:53.500 why did gavin newsom just a few weeks ago say he wants to see more trans kids uh i think i mean

00:45:58.340 well what was the context of what he's talking about he was at i don't remember this okay well

00:46:02.140 that's okay right so that's a big problem if you don't remember the context i think it speaks for

00:46:05.720 itself i want to see more trans kids you know what probably the context is is should more people feel

00:46:11.060 comfortable coming out as who they are okay he's probably saying yeah they shouldn't be able to play

00:46:14.440 sports what do you mean boo hold on but harry so they should come out as trans and he wants to see

00:46:19.240 more of that but he just doesn't want to let them play sports well those are two different topics

00:46:22.940 i mean they're just two different related i would say no they're not pretty related they're two

00:46:26.140 different topics and two different debates here's my question sure a building on mary margaret's

00:46:30.120 question gavin you believe gavin newsom is sincere when he flipped his opinion on transgenderism in

00:46:35.440 sports and says that he no longer wants to see men and women's sports but gavin newsom at the same

00:46:39.540 time says he wants to see more trans kids so therefore we must conclude trans uh gavin newsom does not

00:46:45.520 want the trans kids to be able to play sports do you really think that gavin newsom wants trans kids to

00:46:49.760 say out of all sports like you can't play soccer no he doesn't believe that so then he doesn't lying

00:46:54.940 about changing no you're you're saying that gavin newsom said that trans kids shouldn't play sports

00:46:59.020 period well that's gavin newsom well don't throw under the bus she's lovely that's what you agreed

00:47:03.780 with though no no gavin newsom is saying that um trans people should play sports but the role of

00:47:08.920 uh trans men or trans women going into a different sport or the sport that aligns with the gender that

00:47:13.660 they've now chosen that's where he takes issue but i do think he's going to play you're going to say

00:47:17.680 the trans women have to play in the women's in the in the men's i think gavin newsom holds a

00:47:22.140 similar position to mine which is let's let these independent sporting agencies make the rules i

00:47:26.340 don't think the government should be involved and by the way michael michael you can't have it both

00:47:30.540 wait wait no no gavin gavin newsom's a governor he's saying the government shouldn't legislate this

00:47:35.380 right and so i would i would say he doesn't support me can i finish briefly gavin newsom is saying he

00:47:39.720 doesn't want the government involved in this part party is small government over here now wants the

00:47:42.960 government everywhere i like appropriate government well no you you advocate for small government

00:47:46.380 i don't advocate for small government oh you don't you want big government i know i i advocate

00:47:50.100 okay anyway gavin newsom is taking the position all right all right wow enough torment for harry

00:47:56.360 no you're right you're right we got to go back to the mic question uh all right hello michael um i'd

00:48:02.160 like to engage in a little bit of a friendly spiritual tete-a-tete uh with you i have i'll

00:48:09.560 admittedly say that i skimmed your article about christian zionism and i've heard your comments

00:48:15.180 about israel yeah um and as a protestant i have slightly different views toward the state of

00:48:21.680 israel um and the jewish well not the jewish people the israeli people and i like the israeli

00:48:26.880 people i think i i think we might share that view how do you reconcile this anti-christian zionism

00:48:34.660 might be an extreme way to put it with um the biblical truth that we are grafted onto as christians

00:48:43.840 the jewish faith essentially and the fact that um jews have had israel as their ancestral homeland

00:48:53.260 for thousands of years and can you acknowledge that the again anti-israel seems very extreme but

00:49:01.320 that's the the phrase i'm going to use uh rhetoric that's starting to come from the right has

00:49:06.920 contributed contributed to the rise in anti-semitism in recent months recent years well in the last

00:49:13.780 point i think it it can coincide anti-israel and anti-semitic sentiment can coincide not necessarily

00:49:20.260 so but it can um so that's true i don't know that one is the cause of the other probably the cause would

00:49:25.700 go if more likely in the other direction uh when it comes to uh ancestral claims from indigeneity

00:49:31.960 the reason that i reject that is really more an historical and uh political opinion uh it's because

00:49:38.820 i don't think that just because a people was in a place a long time ago it means they have a right

00:49:43.400 to it now if that were the case we would have to give the mount rushmore back to the lakota sioux

00:49:47.680 which is arguments maybe some of my liberal friends would make them maybe not a lot of people on the

00:49:51.880 left do uh but i i reject that i don't i don't really think that's a basis for international law

00:49:56.940 so i i reject it uh as as that matter of course to the point on christian zionism specifically you know

00:50:03.020 that is a religious position that's a relatively modern one it really comes from the 19th century

00:50:08.580 it's a specific subset of protestantism obviously i'm not a protestant i'm a catholic i'm a mackerel

00:50:13.980 snapper many protestants don't hold that view either but that's a specific view uh that argues that

00:50:19.680 because god gave the land to the jews in antiquity uh they have a divine right to it now now this is

00:50:26.580 contrary to the traditional christian perspective shared by catholics and eastern orthodox and

00:50:31.700 uh some mainline protestants which holds that uh the church is the spiritual israel is the new israel

00:50:37.500 and so we like the jews they're great uh you know they're wonderful and we all you know want to follow

00:50:42.760 god um uh however uh the specific uh land claims that are figured in the old testament are really

00:50:50.100 fulfilled in in the new testament so we don't uh focus on those specific land claims then there's an

00:50:56.920 added problem which is the issue of zionism which begins as a secular ideology uh though it's

00:51:03.060 difficult to separate the religious from the secular when it comes to the the jewish people

00:51:06.440 because they're a tribe uh but the the origins of zionism really are secular and it arises with

00:51:12.620 nationalism like in the revolutions of the 1840s and the uh the ideology that is really a 19th century

00:51:19.020 ideology that i find a little bit modern i don't believe that the only proper form of political

00:51:23.860 order is a nation state i think empires have a lot to recommend them and and so uh for all of those

00:51:29.400 reasons i guess i would say i reject every single aspect of uh what undergirds christian zionism

00:51:35.280 but i'm uh very philo-semitic and i'm generally pro-israel so i'm actually in the worst position of

00:51:41.860 anybody i seem to be taking the bullets from all sides here but but that's why uh this view which is

00:51:48.480 prevalent among american evangelicals has predominated in recent decades but it's it's really not

00:51:53.720 the historic view of christians and it's not the majority view of christians worldwide and so i

00:51:57.760 would make one prudential argument to people who support the state of israel which is it probably

00:52:02.240 would behoove them to give people an opportunity to support the state of israel for practical reasons

00:52:08.860 reasons of international law reasons of alliances that do not require them to adopt a novel theological

00:52:15.360 view that's really a minority view i think probably practically that is much better for uh for even the

00:52:20.960 state of israel in the end okay that was that was a little off topic for me we weren't expecting it

00:52:27.900 what do you guys think about that's all you brother come on hello my question is for harry

00:52:34.520 sisson i'm a huge fan of you i actually follow your twitter pretty actively um and i just want to go

00:52:39.280 back to the ice topic that we were on a bit earlier it's a great because harry sisson has some

00:52:42.800 interesting tweets about alex preddy specifically accusing him of uh sorry i want to apologize um

00:52:48.540 he accuses directly nick shirley of being responsible for the death of alex preddy and

00:52:53.960 renee good for his reporting on minnesota um and so then you know i just want to be super clear here

00:53:00.320 um that once again harry sisson has lied repeatedly about ice um he said that the ice agent that shot

00:53:07.480 said that she was a f***ing b***h right after he shot her that actually was another ice officer 0.98

00:53:13.360 completely different ice officer oh so so much better wait oh yeah it's great to watch your

00:53:17.780 colleague execute somebody live on camera and be like wow that's a wonderful distinction on

00:53:22.200 motivation my question is for harry when an ice officer gets killed because of your lies and

00:53:26.600 your rhetoric um are you gonna feel bad are you gonna have issues sleeping at night like you accused

00:53:30.800 nick shirley of being that is absurd that was a that was a really i think that was a really bad

00:53:34.620 question like genuinely i think that was a bad question so uh chris actually tweeted something

00:53:38.280 similar as well regarding you don't want to answer it yeah that's a bad question but he said it too

00:53:42.460 but we both agree on it we both agree and i'll stand by this that nick shirley his lies about

00:53:48.040 fraud in minnesota caused a surgence of federal agents into the state and if that surgence of

00:53:54.340 federal agents into the state never happened and he never lied about these uh learning centers these

00:53:58.720 child daycare centers you're saying that we wouldn't be in a position no that's not what he said

00:54:02.300 no no no well hold on well hold on what's your claim i'm responding directly so if that never

00:54:07.780 happened whatever if that never happened uh those people renee good and alex preddy would still be

00:54:13.240 alive today a hundred percent and they were murdered in broad daylight and anybody i think

00:54:17.920 everybody in this room should be able to look at alex preddy who didn't take out a gun he was tackled

00:54:23.960 by ace eight ice agents wait are you anti-second amendment now hold on wait so so wait wait so

00:54:29.280 you should be executed for just having a gun even if it's holstered he was legally carrying it he had

00:54:33.720 a permit to carry he's not threatened so wait wait wait wait wait hold on there's where he should be

00:54:41.100 executed can you relax for the first time hold on he had a legal permit to carry he never took out the

00:54:45.920 gun so wait what do you mean so he wasn't a threat to anybody he wasn't a he wasn't a threat to

00:54:51.620 anybody how come he wasn't a threat to anybody he was tackled by eight ice agents on the ground

00:54:55.620 and then shot in the back of the head nine times hold on harry harry what are you talking about

00:54:59.640 what are you talking about harry you just said that renee good i don't want to hear from you

00:55:02.980 can i jump in from the vip you just said you just said harry that renee good was murdered yes

00:55:09.620 by an ice officer yeah do you not think that being hit by an suv is a justification for using deadly

00:55:16.580 if you're looking at the footage frame by frame and i saw you get walked by adam mockler on this

00:55:20.260 can you be quiet oh my god what was how did i get okay how did i get walked well i'm up here

00:55:25.180 you're over there i'm meant to be talking harry here's a question did renee good did renee good

00:55:30.260 hit the officer with her suv wait wait wait the if you look at the frame by frame you don't you don't

00:55:35.380 need a paragraph michael michael if this is a more yes or no michael you would agree that this is a

00:55:38.920 more nuanced i would not agree with that did this woman hit the officer with her suv her suv bumped the 0.99

00:55:44.540 officer which still does not justify bumped him with a 3 000 pound suv michael michael michael

00:55:48.900 if i tapped you on the shoulder right now can you shoot me in the face if you tapped me with

00:55:53.440 your suv i probably would yeah what if he's going three miles an hour what if he's going three miles

00:55:57.400 an hour do we have any more questions do we have no more okay here we go we got to figure out who won

00:56:04.400 that round who do we get to pick i thought your colleague actually asked a really good question so

00:56:08.340 were we going margaret she comes man do you want do you want to hand goes to the vip 0.57

00:56:12.460 i defer i defer i thought she asked a good question i am gonna maybe i'll separately buy that fake

00:56:19.760 harry fan out there a drink afterward but mary margaret gets to go to the vip by the way mark i

00:56:24.300 interrupted you you had a point to make yes i had i had several points whoa whoa whoa whoa so the

00:56:30.680 alex preddy shooting you're saying he was legally carrying a gun yeah but minnesota state law requires

00:56:35.380 you to carry your id and a permit i i see you over there i see you over there they're not based

00:56:40.000 like tennessee where you can have constitutional carry thank you so that's not really legally but

00:56:47.140 he wasn't legal he wasn't legally carrying it that's a good point but also as as a responsible

00:56:51.120 gun owner myself yeah you basically are drilled into you that if you always carry a gun that's fine

00:56:58.520 but if you only carry a gun in certain situations it seems like you're looking for trouble and i know

00:57:04.340 personally if i'm out carrying a gun i'm the biggest in the world like a hundred because

00:57:10.820 if someone talks if someone talks to me i let it go because literally anything when you're

00:57:17.240 carrying a gun there is a huge responsibility because great point anything can become a deadly

00:57:22.200 encounter so it was incredibly irresponsible of him to go into that situation i do want to hold on

00:57:27.460 really quickly really quickly two things you can start to talk about the nuance of whatever the

00:57:32.260 specific laws in minnesota about how you carry but again i still don't believe that that if you

00:57:37.280 could prove to me right now without a shadow of a doubt that alex preddy who was again taking care of

00:57:42.320 our veterans as a nurse if you could prove to me without a shadow of a doubt that he was satan on

00:57:46.880 earth i still don't believe that that makes it justifiable that he's executed in broad daylight

00:57:52.340 it's an important point though hold on hold on hold on and so i do want to point out although i

00:57:55.620 appreciate and you may be correct on the on the minnesota law about whatever he was required to have

00:57:59.840 even if you could prove to me right now that he was illegally carrying i still don't believe that

00:58:04.880 that then somehow justifies even if he's looking for trouble him being executed in broad daylight

00:58:09.480 okay the gun was taken out by another ice officer so he is unarmed with what five or six ice

00:58:15.580 did he aim the firearm at any ice agent i don't think that was a hundred percent clean did he aim

00:58:19.720 did he aim the firearm at any ice agent there was a lot of stuff happening in that time but also

00:58:23.560 talking about rhetoric and hitler the left is just constantly drag so you don't wait donald trump

00:58:29.420 said that kamala harris and joe biden hold on donald trump said that joe biden and kamala harris

00:58:33.920 are fascists so if you're using the same donald trump called kamala harris a fascist they called

00:58:39.160 him hitler and then right after he got shot wait wait and then in your view they must be equally

00:58:42.620 guilty in your view they must be equally guilty then can can you name yes or no guys guys guys guys

00:58:47.480 guys all right all right yeah we can't let we can't let mark gang up mike answer me a question can

00:58:52.040 you name what's the one prominent political figure right now who called on a stage donald trump

00:58:58.020 hitler that would be jd vance his vice president who called him america's hitler there's been no

00:59:03.140 elected democrats but there are a lot more people who called trump hitler i just want to point out

00:59:07.780 wait what elected democrats if we're putting blame on calling him hitler hang on hang on all right

00:59:13.440 gavin newsom didn't call him hitler he did they know the news the newsom press team just referred to

00:59:18.780 the trump administration please all right give it to me we love mike get some love to mike we love mike

00:59:23.940 because they love i love listening to conservatives lecture liberals about gun rights and the way you

00:59:30.060 ditch the second amendment so quickly when it's not convenient for you is unbelievable to me i am oh

00:59:35.200 stop it i'm a gun owner i have my concealed carry license i have the right to carry a gun in the

00:59:40.180 constitution same as everybody else alex pretty left his house he's protesting ice he's recording ice he

00:59:45.560 didn't brandish the gun he didn't need it they threw him to the ground they shot him he didn't need it

00:59:49.900 he didn't use it he didn't brandish it they threw him to the ground they beat him they shot him three

00:59:54.160 times if that happened to a conservative you would be and moaning and you'd be absolutely right to

00:59:59.060 and i heard conservatives conservatives don't obstruct law enforcement generally oh no they just

01:00:03.140 raid the capitol he was right they just raid the capitol just take selfies in the capitol they just raid

01:00:06.840 the capitol and then they beat police officers to say that alex preddy was obstructing law enforcement

01:00:12.760 bro he kicked in the real the the taillight on a federal law enforcement therefore he deserves death 0.86

01:00:18.080 and then he therefore he deserves no i'm just saying he obstructed law enforcement i'm just

01:00:21.520 making a very modest point and denying for some reason well let me make a modest point for you

01:00:24.820 michael was the ashley babbitt shooting just for mark over there you guys complained about ashley

01:00:28.980 babbitt who was trying to break into the capitol thank you and she deserved to die she's okay uh 0.57

01:00:34.700 yes i disagree i mean i'm sorry i don't like to hear that don't have shock you were just defending

01:00:40.620 the shooting of alex freddy right you right there cops were being beaten she's turning away

01:00:43.660 your daddy part of the cop eaters so don't lecture me i'm not lecturing you and let's go

01:00:48.020 mike you weren't lecturing us just suck it up anyway they don't want to talk we can just retire 0.93

01:00:52.820 i think yeah we'll just go out there no yeah but basically i'm just to sum this up to sum

01:00:59.520 this up to quote the great little john don't start no won't be no great point a great philosopher

01:01:05.820 for a little john himself into that so you agree it's not a death sentence you were filming ice

01:01:10.860 agents is not a death sentence you you agree with what happens okay folks it is time did we are we

01:01:15.740 already picked the vip it is time for round so bad my favorite time of the night it's my topic

01:01:26.920 my topic is america isn't stolen billy eilish is wrong about that but even if it were stolen

01:01:36.800 we would deport the illegals just the same so billy eilish makes a claim at the grammys yeah

01:01:43.600 she says no one is illegal on stolen land which is not true it's not true because if you're on stolen

01:01:51.720 land and you murder somebody you that's still illegal that's still a crime you can't murder

01:01:56.580 people or rape people even if it's stolen land uh but the second reason that her claim was false 1.00

01:02:01.740 is that america is not stolen land by by any measure any way that we think of international

01:02:08.300 law or history in anything resembling a global standard by that standard america is not stolen

01:02:15.940 so before i even go on with my diatribe you guys are relatively more moderate more slightly more

01:02:23.840 reasonable maybe do you think america is stolen land i think two things i think that the phrase

01:02:30.020 america no one is illegal on stolen land shouldn't be i think it's it's an issue when you take it so

01:02:34.900 literally i think the point is that uh obviously america was founded on or we were we were all

01:02:40.240 immigrants we came over here we were not hold on hold on hold on hold on let me finish so i just

01:02:43.680 disagree with that no okay okay okay uh we're all immigrants uh we traveled over here we killed a 0.99

01:02:48.700 bunch of people we took land i mean all play all land is technically stolen land all countries were

01:02:53.600 i don't agree with that hold on hold on all countries were founded on some amount of sin i think

01:02:57.520 the more important point of this is that uh i don't understand to the latter half why the demonization

01:03:05.140 of illegal immigrants the point of the demonization it is hold on okay but why you still haven't

01:03:10.680 answered that question from earlier why because it's the law okay okay but there's a lot of laws we

01:03:14.100 don't enforce hold on we should enforce them okay well there's a lot that we don't give me

01:03:17.700 why do you believe besides it just being law it should be enforced because i'll answer that if

01:03:21.900 you'd like me to please because a nation is defined geographically by its borders okay the most basic

01:03:28.920 right that defines a political community is the right to define who is part of it and who is not

01:03:34.680 part of it so it is beyond the laws passed by congress that are supposed to be enforced by the

01:03:39.300 executive that are upheld by the judiciary it is a basic tenet of any political community that you get

01:03:44.640 to determine who's in and who's out if we do not enforce that most basic law we would uh cease in

01:03:51.940 any meaningful sense to be a political community both parties agreed on that i don't i don't believe

01:03:55.800 that there's anybody advocating for not uh at some level enforcing uh immigration law you don't think

01:04:01.960 anyone's like advocating open borders i don't think there is i don't think there's i don't think

01:04:05.420 there's a single prominent democrat no one's saying that no one is illegal but hold on no no no but the

01:04:11.280 second point of this is that everybody believes that at some level we should have a better

01:04:14.880 immigration reform we're just going to disagree about how to do that should we deport the 0.99

01:04:17.780 illegal no because the point there is no no then i guess yeah no no no no no no hold on hold on hold

01:04:22.640 on i believe that undocumented individuals in the united states are generally a net benefit 0.99

01:04:28.280 currently for the american people no no people are going to laugh the cato hold on hold on hold on

01:04:33.100 the cato institute the cato institute it's a right-wing think tank let me put this out it's a libertarian

01:04:37.220 that's okay the cato institute this week this week uh released a study that since from 1994 to now

01:04:44.340 undocumented people have uh paid the federal government roughly 10 trillion dollars in taxes

01:04:51.240 wow that's some i think it's a gazillion hold on hold on can i hold on 10 trillion dollars in taxes

01:04:55.300 and they have used benefits from the u.s government about six trillion let's say four trillion dollar

01:04:59.820 surplus and they analyzed why economically are they in net benefit yeah libertarians like open borders

01:05:05.080 hold on hold on it's not no no no no those numbers are wrong but why are they wrong why do you think

01:05:09.740 they're because because they're because they actually are net takers and if you don't want to

01:05:13.040 look at they're not i don't i don't you can look at the center for immigration studies one is pro-mass

01:05:16.420 migrant one is anti-mass migrant but it's evading the question because we're talking about the law

01:05:20.960 do you think that the american people have the right to enforce the laws duly passed by congress

01:05:25.040 to have their own borders and define who's in the country i think i think yes or no hold on hold on

01:05:28.280 no no because because because i think it's a dishonest premise there's a simple there are so many laws

01:05:32.620 i think that we should i'm not asking about so many laws i'm asking about this one can i just say

01:05:36.780 something really quick can you answer the question right now right now in the united states we do not

01:05:39.540 have enough native-born i'm just giving one example before you speak we do not have enough native-born

01:05:44.160 u.s citizens to work every single job if every single undocumented person right now was uh was 0.50

01:05:50.260 deported this instant i'm gonna hold on hold on one second i'm gonna bet you in the front row twenty

01:05:54.300 dollars i'm gonna bet you right now twenty dollars that he will not answer my question i'm going to

01:05:59.120 answer your question hold on no no no no no no i'm going to answer your question i'm going to

01:06:04.820 i'll take it i'm gonna take the opposite he's gonna answer it okay you're in a matter of law i i will

01:06:10.480 just please quickly again there's clearly like that example i just gave if every undocumented person

01:06:15.820 was deported from the united states tomorrow our economy just as one example would fall apart

01:06:20.800 overnight simple question i am going i'm going i'm going to answer the question that for about six

01:06:26.160 minutes it's very clear that in the current setup the united states we should allow undocumented 0.99

01:06:31.540 people to have a process to uh find uh get legal immigration status and we should pass immigration

01:06:38.260 reform to increase security at the border and make it easier to get into the united states legally

01:06:41.860 i think the premise the answer to your question my question i believe you're going to owe me 20

01:06:45.160 no no no no no no no no no no no the answer the answer is that we should enforce laws in a civil

01:06:52.900 way and currently the civil way is to enforce them it's called i i i i disagree and there's so many

01:06:58.640 it's literally what it's called there's so many there's so many good examples of u.s laws that we

01:07:03.020 don't enforce all the time yeah yeah will you answer my question or is harry paying me 20 bucks what is

01:07:07.740 what is should we deport the illegals i don't i disagree with the premise of the question 20 bucks buddy

01:07:12.200 no no no no no no no no easiest money no no no no i believe i believe actually that might be the

01:07:18.880 i believe i believe we should work was easiest i believe that was a little hard i believe we should

01:07:23.260 deport undocumented individuals who have committed violent crimes yes that is my take part the 1.00

01:07:28.140 illegals no i think i think no i think no is an answer that is an answer 20 bucks now i believe

01:07:33.520 i believe i believe it's a more nuanced we should we should deport undocumented people who have 1.00

01:07:38.340 committed violent crimes yes so i think there are a lot i think there are a lot of undocumented

01:07:42.900 immigrants in this country who have lived here general question hold on i'm not asking that 0.94

01:07:46.220 question i don't think your general question is in good faith it is in good it's not in good

01:07:49.840 it's a simple question but michael don't stop michael until like no no you would you would you

01:07:53.400 would concede that simple but i want i don't want you to think i'm stealing your 20 bucks

01:07:56.740 oh my god should we deport should we deport the illegal aliens in america i just answered yes or 0.99

01:08:03.960 no i don't yes or no i just answered yes or no wait michael don't believe 20 bucks oh my god

01:08:09.240 okay i don't think the answer is yes or no michael michael michael it's a nuanced question right

01:08:13.200 yes it is because i think i think you might knew how to answer it i think you might obama even when

01:08:18.420 he ran wait wait i find some people in here who would agree that somebody who's been here for 30

01:08:23.660 years has never committed the illegals great wait wait michael let me finish i think you might

01:08:30.260 find maybe not in here i don't know but republicans generally you might find some people who argue and

01:08:35.140 would agree with me that if you've been here for like 30 years you've paid your taxes you've never

01:08:39.340 committed a violent crime even if you have a speeding ticket whatever if you're if you've given

01:08:43.760 if you've given back to your community why would we deport that person instead of giving them the

01:08:48.460 pathway to citizenship if they're giving back to america which is exactly what we want from

01:08:52.240 immigrants why would we deport them because it's the law you voted for a felon i don't care you 1.00

01:08:56.320 voted for a felon you can't talk about them being undocumented and breaking the law if you voted for

01:08:59.660 a felon yeah so michael right you right there i see you really quickly he's trying to save his

01:09:03.860 buddy's money no no no no i do want to point out to your point you said it's a simple yes or no

01:09:08.600 question you voted for a criminal you talk about them breaking the law you don't care about

01:09:12.720 donald trump being a convicted felon he has not had one sip of his tequila and he is belligerent right

01:09:17.280 now he is belligerent uh okay we need to figure out or do we have another question at the mic

01:09:22.380 do we have we do okay really quickly sorry my question you're not getting his money i just want

01:09:26.740 to point out i just want to point out even obama had a nuanced take on this his take well eventually

01:09:30.900 he undermined his hold on hold on regardless of how let's say obama's immigration policy wasn't forced

01:09:35.080 he obviously had a setup where he wanted to only be focusing on people within like 100 miles of the

01:09:40.560 border because he believed that if you were within 100 miles of the border you just came across the

01:09:44.500 united states he believed we should focus on uh criminals but if you were let's say in minnesota

01:09:49.160 for example and you were undocumented it was far more likely that you were here with a family you

01:09:53.020 had built a life and so he first wanted to focus on within 100 miles of the border so if you ask you

01:09:57.720 know what i remember if you know what i remember if you just answering your point if you ask said that

01:10:02.280 executive amnesty would be unconstitutional and then he did it anyway so i remember you're right he did

01:10:07.220 have nuanced views in as much as they contradicted themselves yeah okay i just to your question of

01:10:12.560 should we deport the illegals even obama would say that's a dishonest framing what did bill

01:10:16.240 say it's a it's a nuanced it's a nuanced question i don't care what bill i don't know i don't care

01:10:20.700 i was born in 2002 like i don't we don't care if bill clinton said we're a different party now we

01:10:25.720 have a nuanced take different you guys nominated hillary less than 10 years ago i would argue that

01:10:30.160 hillary in 2016 was different than bill clinton in his presidency hillary clinton was not calling for 1.00

01:10:33.500 social services to be defunded but we in the democratic party have a nuanced view of immigration

01:10:37.920 that is far better for the united states than you who was just like should we deport everybody or

01:10:42.420 not it's not it's not an absolute it's not absolute force the law when i want to that's not

01:10:46.980 you voted for a felon you voted for a felon you voted for a felon all right sorry i'm back this time

01:10:55.240 for you boys ah okay um early on i think it was harry but it could have been either one of you

01:11:02.920 um you just can feel they all look the same generic white guys generic white guys do look

01:11:08.100 very similar yes but you made the claim that right-wing political violence is more prominent

01:11:15.500 than left-wing political yes absolutely which is an insane claim to make when in september charlie

01:11:20.980 kirk was assassinated on a college campus debating people yeah friendly hold on and since then we have

01:11:29.900 only seen a rise in left-wing violence we see them openly chanting for people to be killed

01:11:35.800 including donald trump violent speeches violence now people including nick shirley it can be went out

01:11:40.820 in some cases but not that you do journalism independent nick shirley's not a journalist yeah

01:11:45.880 he's not a journalist he's an idiot they told him he would get kirked okay okay wait hold on hold on 0.96

01:11:50.760 i'm gonna let i'm gonna let harry answer this i want to let harry answer this i just want to say two

01:11:53.460 things uh briefly what happened to charlie kirk was absolutely abhorrent and wrong and terrible i want

01:11:57.140 to point that out number one number two nick shirley is not a journalist okay i'll explain i'll

01:12:02.520 explain if you let me please look at these people freaking out he's not a journalist because he

01:12:05.660 actually breaks no there's nothing there's nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing about what nick

01:12:10.800 shirley the stupid video nothing was uh uncovered right we've been going after this fraud in minnesota

01:12:15.680 for a long time the biden hold on the biden doj literally brought charges against like 55 different

01:12:20.680 people in minnesota relating relating to do with political violence all right i know i'm just i just

01:12:26.020 quickly nick shirley didn't expose anything that we didn't already know and it was full of a bunch

01:12:30.480 of lies hate and racism that's all i'm saying look it's a truth here here look we both chris and i

01:12:36.420 first of all on a serious note the day that charlie kirk was shot and murdered we both got out there

01:12:41.460 on every platform and said it is horrific horrific horrific we condemn it i am not accusing you we agree

01:12:46.900 with all political violence is bad political violence is bad we we disagree with it we still

01:12:52.220 disagree with it we don't make jokes about it we don't laugh about it it was horrific we all saw it

01:12:55.440 on our timelines it was awful great now on the topic of political violence melissa hortman in

01:13:02.020 minnesota was murdered by a trump supporter who told the new york post he was a trump supporter and when

01:13:07.140 donald trump was asked are you good why didn't you lower the flags for melissa hortman why did you do

01:13:10.760 it for charlie kirk not her he said who when nancy pelosi's husband was beaten over the head

01:13:16.800 with a hammer donald trump jr posted a photo on instagram mocking it donald trump also mocked it

01:13:23.360 saying how's paul pelosi doing right now might i add january 6th was the largest example of political

01:13:29.220 violence in modern american harry harry wait wait can i finish this point it wasn't even the largest

01:13:35.700 example of political violence at the capitol it's the largest example of political violence in modern

01:13:39.540 american history what happened what about when what about when the poor rican nationalists shot up the

01:13:44.020 house floor and shot five members of congress that's bad that's bad what about what about what

01:13:47.440 wait hold on let me answer a question let me answer let me answer in the cap let me answer a question

01:13:51.180 and i'm happy to i'm happy to talk about condemn all of it that was the largest example of political

01:13:55.860 violence in recent american history and by what happened to those people they beat police officers

01:14:00.300 they got prosecuted by a proper doj and then donald trump pardoned them by the way many of them have

01:14:04.540 been uh convicted again or charged again on serious crimes like child pornography possession

01:14:08.020 right so uh you want to talk about political violence look at your own side donald trump mocks

01:14:12.380 political violence whereas we condemn all of it whether you're a democrat republican you should

01:14:16.880 be able to say what you want when you want do do democrats condemn all of it yes because there

01:14:21.280 was a very interesting article in a magazine i very rarely read called the atlantic which pointed out

01:14:26.060 that as of last year contrary to previous trends political violence became predominantly a left-wing

01:14:32.800 phenomenon rather than a right-wing phenomenon now this was based on evidence from a generally more

01:14:37.620 left-leaning institute obviously in the atlantic which is left-leaning and what what's funny about

01:14:42.140 it is even using their own data their data which exclude instances of left on right political

01:14:49.220 violence including one that i experienced myself when antifa showed up and threw an explosive

01:14:53.500 at a building when i was on stage it was great it was okay we survived the poor cop was injured but

01:14:58.500 she she made it out okay eventually good uh that wasn't even counted in the data sets of political 1.00

01:15:04.280 violence the blm violence which killed dozens of people wasn't counted in the data sets of political

01:15:07.840 yeah and hold on the point i'm making here is go ahead even using data sets which by and large

01:15:13.620 exclude left-wing political violence even the atlantic magazine admitted that today political

01:15:18.820 violence in america is predominantly a left-wing not a right-wing phenomenon so i i but there's data

01:15:23.440 undercounted on both sides i'm sure i've had political violence against me by republicans in the

01:15:26.920 streets it was awful and obviously i'm fine i made it but uh that was not counted in any of these studies

01:15:31.020 if i may ask you can ask well it was it was funny we were in the bar in new york city my friends and

01:15:35.240 i were walking around these guys came up to me they were like oh harry's this and they shoved the

01:15:37.840 phone in my face they threw a beer and we threw some punches it's fine it's never i've never talked

01:15:41.700 are you breaking news on me no no no no no no but you and i you and i've also both been swatted

01:15:46.720 we've also i've been swatted i've had the fbi sent to my my or the yeah i guess the fbi sent to

01:15:50.720 my house my school all that crap it's been it's been bad um but do you condemn what donald trump 0.78

01:15:56.160 did by mocking paul pelosi's assault yeah i i wouldn't mock paul pelosi's okay great wait but

01:16:00.900 hold on but that was by the way that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't the question yes or no do you

01:16:06.720 condemn donald trump pardoning the police officers donald trump he's the greatest president of my

01:16:10.640 lifetime well that's okay so that's the difference that's great wait wait wait hold on hold on michael

01:16:15.220 michael michael michael and then i'm gonna ask the crowd as well do you condemn donald trump

01:16:18.520 pardoning people who be police officers it uh which which people you're like the people on january

01:16:23.260 6th you're talking about alex no january 6th do you do you condemn i do condemn okay great and

01:16:26.720 renee good in their political behaviors do you condemn the people who be police officers on january

01:16:29.920 6th i i think that january 6th was okay you're not gonna give me an answer was one of the most

01:16:34.760 20 bucks 20 bucks 20 bucks my question yes or no do you i'll answer them do you condemn donald

01:16:39.620 do you condemn donald trump pardoning people who beat police officers i don't can i wait wait wait

01:16:45.420 wait hold on i'm gonna ask the crowd as well do you guys condemn donald trump pardoning people

01:16:52.360 who beat police officers almost to death i don't care about you yes or no yes i don't

01:16:57.760 i want to point out i want to point out wait wait thank you this guy over here said who died on

01:17:01.860 january 6th i want to point out there has been four capital police officers since that day who have

01:17:06.420 taken their own life in relation hold on can i finish that's not the question he has hold on hold

01:17:11.220 on in relation to that event because they had a bunch of maga people telling them that they were part

01:17:15.580 of a deep state conspiracy they had nowhere to go they had families they took their own life so that's

01:17:19.380 number one i don't think it's reasonable to say that you're blaming you're now expanding the

01:17:22.860 definition of political violence to include expose i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not he made it he

01:17:27.280 made a claim you are no he made a claim that the only person who died at january 6th for example is

01:17:30.900 ashley babbitt i think it's correct i think it's dishonest to not talk about the police officers who

01:17:34.760 have ptsd and then took their own life so when you don't condemn and further michael you don't

01:17:38.560 fully condemn and i also want to point out you don't fully condemn political violence hold on i want to

01:17:42.360 point out i i i don't fully condemn political violence in as much as y'all agree with that no i

01:17:46.960 don't someone clip that clip that oh okay okay a political violence that's motivated officers

01:17:51.680 shooting criminals in certain cases that's just the death penalty is just okay go ahead two weeks

01:17:56.740 ago two weeks ago a man named andrew johnson who was found guilty of assaulting a police officer on

01:18:03.180 january 6th he had a prison sentence of i think it was two or three years he had not started

01:18:07.300 his prison sentence yet he was he was pardoned damn he was it's so he was pardoned by donald 0.67

01:18:13.640 he was pardoned by donald trump so he never served his sentence for assaulting a police officer on

01:18:17.880 january 6th he was just arraigned in court because he molested an 11 year old boy three times with

01:18:23.620 subpoena text messages of him telling this 11 year old boy quote i was a january sixer i'm going to win

01:18:29.500 a bunch of money because i'm an american hero i'm going to leave it in my will for you and he was

01:18:33.340 basically trying to you know obviously uh he was a predator right and so my point being

01:18:37.280 is that donald trump pardoned this guy this 11 year old boy pardoned him for child abuse

01:18:41.520 good grief he pardoned him he's because it's no no no it's almost as if someone if someone

01:18:46.940 disingenuous no it's not because if somebody is willing to assault a police officer on january 6th

01:18:52.740 it's almost like they are more likely to commit violent crimes within all of our communities

01:18:56.320 this 11 year old boy no this is what they commit less crimes i know i am talking i am talking about i'm

01:19:02.840 talking about and you don't want to deport them and that's why i won 20 bucks for me i'm talking

01:19:06.280 20 bucks on that he answered the question i'm talking about i'm talking about a donald

01:19:10.520 i'm talking about a donald trump supporter the guy i'm talking about a donald trump supporter who

01:19:16.120 at the direction of donald trump showed up to the capitol beat a police officer got pardoned and then

01:19:21.540 molested an 11 year old boy and we're defending it what are we talking about i don't think anyone's

01:19:26.120 defending you're defending it why do you defend his pardon do you believe that boy would not have

01:19:29.140 got molested hi is this question about stolen land and immigration i think it was supposed to be

01:19:36.560 you can ask whatever you want question on that that i really really want to ask um so i come from

01:19:42.820 the great land of the chieftain elizabeth warren and i would like to know hey hey first of all

01:19:50.480 please describe to me the agreements that the puritans had with the natives that were there that was

01:19:55.360 not stolen and b probably even more important and this goes right to you harry what i want to know

01:20:02.720 is maura healy is our governor and she has asked citizens of massachusetts to take illegal immigrants

01:20:12.140 into their homes and house them because they don't have enough housing for all of them so i just want to

01:20:19.920 answer my question first not all land is stolen land and second harry are you willing to house the

01:20:27.420 illegal immigrants that you want to have in this country please answer both questions uh well i'll

01:20:36.440 start with your your latter one uh you're gonna have to repeat the first question again because i we do

01:20:40.460 not live on stolen land completely because we have had agreements i'll just answer your question

01:20:45.160 so hold on the last question for what's the question for harry i know the question is are you

01:20:50.400 willing to do what maura healy asked the citizens of massachusetts to do and house illegal immigrants 0.93

01:20:55.980 in your own home because she asked us to do that i wasn't willing to do that but i was wondering with

01:21:01.460 you and your great heart and that's and that's exactly the point i'm about to make you don't you

01:21:04.700 you're very easily entertained you would very easily entertained um so you're making the point i was

01:21:12.520 about to make which is it's voluntary um she's asking citizens to step up if they want you don't

01:21:17.080 nobody's forcing you and by the way we already have programs be quiet you right there be quiet

01:21:21.880 i know i'm getting to it i'm getting i'm getting i'm getting just be quiet i'm getting to it if you

01:21:26.220 listen if you listen if you listen he says he's gonna get to it i'll believe him for now okay so

01:21:30.740 you don't have to it's voluntary by the way we already have programs where people have sponsors in

01:21:35.480 the united states of america those are programs that existed under donald trump and joe biden now donald trump

01:21:39.740 so you can have a sponsor this is nothing new what your governor is talking about is nothing

01:21:43.200 new so i don't know why you're taking particular objection because she's encouraging it she's

01:21:46.520 calling on people to do it as an active measure it's in it's voluntary correct it is okay great

01:21:51.300 no problem so the government's not infringing on you the government's not infringing on you

01:21:54.260 whatsoever it's voluntary and unfortunately i will not be taking anybody in because i have a

01:21:58.500 one bedroom in new york city it's very expensive so hold on you have a one bedroom yeah you don't

01:22:02.480 have a studio no i do not a lot of new yorkers have studios well it depends on where you live

01:22:06.060 it depends on where you live but if you live where do you live well you don't understand i don't want

01:22:09.560 you to die i could say but you have a one bedroom yes i do a lot of people have studios in new york

01:22:14.100 so you have an extra room no i'm sorry unfortunately i don't unfortunately i don't have any space

01:22:20.360 unfortunately for now i don't have any space but if you have space in your home and you want to play

01:22:25.000 into a program that we've already had for a very long time you can do so but nobody's forcing you to

01:22:29.560 take anybody in your home nobody's forcing you to take anybody in your home wow to hear i live in a

01:22:34.540 one bedroom in new york and i don't have any spats a mansion well you're from new york you know new

01:22:40.360 york there's no space in new york my one my one bedroom's a shoebox you know that okay i don't

01:22:45.820 think i don't think these migrants i don't think they need a lot of space you know you give them 1.00

01:22:50.140 a nice little bed anyway i have another question is it technically stolen land can you speak yeah is

01:22:57.980 it technically stolen land if you can't protect it if you can't yeah great okay and this actually

01:23:03.300 ties in with the previous question so yeah i totally reject the point you made even at the

01:23:07.280 top of this that we're all immigrants and all the land is stolen it's all sin and i i don't really

01:23:11.720 agree with any of that uh some of our ancestors are immigrants some of them were settlers there's a

01:23:16.500 distinction between those two things uh the land was acquired in america through a variety of ways

01:23:21.340 uh the question was about the the indians and the the pilgrims who came on the mayflower which is a

01:23:27.320 great cigar company by the way so some of my ancestors were on there and i think that the

01:23:33.620 the uh narrative from the left that the pilgrims came the english came and they just ran roughshod

01:23:38.760 over the poor sweet little pocahontas i think that actually does a great injustice to the indians 1.00

01:23:43.680 because these were real men they were real statesmen they formed alliances the english pilgrims

01:23:48.340 actually helped the wampanoag nation massive chief massasoit in particular to create a great political

01:23:53.440 polity massasoit allied with them against the massachusetts when the massachusetts wanted to wipe

01:23:57.760 the english out unfortunately it all fell apart in king phillips war when the indians made a mistake

01:24:01.460 but these are real people uh so we acquired that land through treaties uh through some wars

01:24:08.060 treaties that followed wars student but but we're you know some war part is doing a lot of heavy

01:24:12.800 i don't know if you guys are history buffs the indians also acquire their territory well yeah

01:24:18.400 that was my ritual that was part of my ritual but i don't think most places

01:24:23.400 were founded through some amounts of sin but i don't think that's sin necessarily wars can be

01:24:27.040 justified and this goes back to antiquity so uh the america the american country was founded through

01:24:34.620 treaties through wars through purchases obviously we doubled the size of the country in the louisiana

01:24:38.900 purchase uh and it is recognized by any way you slice international law including the law of

01:24:46.140 conquest which is recognized all the way up to 1907 in the hate convention it's recognized through the

01:24:50.320 doctrine of discovery it's recognized through uh the united nations the united nations charter so

01:24:55.620 there is actually no way i mean it's kind of a funny thing to debate billy eilish but some of the

01:25:00.780 libs very seriously claim this is stolen land well look we're not one of those we're not going out

01:25:05.080 there and saying stolen land yes but we believe i fundamentally believe on this topic of billy eilish

01:25:09.160 that there are probably more important issues out there than what billy eilish says at the grammys i think

01:25:12.700 maybe we should be focusing on housing prices and grocery prices and things like that you'd rather

01:25:16.100 talk about billy eilish no no no or the epstein files well we talked about that yeah i didn't

01:25:20.240 want to double program it but but i would love to the point is it's not just billy eilish many

01:25:24.900 democrats in fact i think who claims like do you think this is like do you think this is a majority

01:25:29.480 position do you think do you think this is a majority position in the democratic party i think

01:25:34.680 it is a growing position and i think it's a broad look as somebody in the democratic party

01:25:38.640 america's not stolen land i'm not of the view i'm not going to go around saying that america's

01:25:42.960 stolen land so you don't think it's stolen land i'm not going to go around saying that no

01:25:45.860 i'm not asking what you're going to say you don't think it's stolen land do you think america's

01:25:48.900 stolen land i don't know here we go you say it's not a mainstream view half of you he just said he

01:25:55.760 doesn't know that doesn't mean he's taking the view he doesn't he doesn't think again i do i do

01:25:59.520 want to i do want to point out i do want to point out to the to the question the point i made earlier

01:26:02.360 is that like when i see that i don't again take take the position so literally i think the point of

01:26:07.540 saying no one is illegal on stolen land again comes back to at least some of our roots are based uh as

01:26:12.720 they are based i agree they're very very basic some of our roots some of our roots are based in

01:26:17.620 immigration and we shouldn't be demonizing a bunch of people just because they don't look like me who

01:26:23.240 came to america just to have a better life between legal and illegal immigration is there a distinction

01:26:28.300 yeah yes okay i think then you just made a disingenuous point because you tried to conflate

01:26:32.980 illegal immigration which is what people take issue with with immigration no no no i think the

01:26:36.880 point was no no i think the point was it matters why people come to the united states and if

01:26:41.000 some of us in our past came looking for a better life we were at least some of america was built

01:26:46.640 off immigration we should remember that based on the american dream even though we would probably

01:26:51.400 agree that our immigration system has been broken for a long time we need some massive reforms we want

01:26:56.300 people here the right way and legally right now because that system is so broken it has caused people

01:27:01.440 to be here either on expired visas why what is broken about it that caused illegal immigration uh part of

01:27:07.340 i mean well part of that is that if you request a visa like if you request a visa it may take

01:27:12.840 you might have a court date in eight or nine years we don't take enough people and wait that's not

01:27:17.400 what i said hold on you're you're claiming what's broken about it is we don't take enough people but

01:27:21.260 we've been taking legally a million people a year i didn't say i didn't say too many i didn't say i

01:27:26.360 didn't say it's that we uh we don't take enough i said that it takes so long even if you if you have a

01:27:31.300 justifiable reason and you want to follow the american dream like we all supposedly believe in so we

01:27:35.020 shouldn't take more legal immigrants i believe that we should in joe biden so you do think we 1.00

01:27:39.700 should take more i do believe we should take more illegal oh jesus christ i do believe we should

01:27:44.000 take more legal immigration joe biden tried to pass a massive immigration bill i was just confused

01:27:48.440 because you just said you weren't saying hold on hold on joe biden tried to pass a massive

01:27:51.500 immigration bill that would have increased the amount of legal immigrants i know i'm glad that

01:27:55.480 it was a bipartisan bill republicans obviously not bipartisan enough uh it was written by a

01:28:00.840 republican hey quick question so throughout this entire time oh i love this guy i love this guy

01:28:05.280 sorry go ahead who's up there oh no yeah no i love him go ahead so throughout this entire conversation

01:28:10.700 of immigration i keep hearing uh from chris and i believe harry as well that we need to deport only

01:28:16.000 violent criminal illegals yeah it is insane that on a public platform you would be willing to put your

01:28:21.840 fellow countrymen aside for foreigners who do not have any right to be here and this is the reason 1.00

01:28:26.760 this is the reason i say that this is the this is my reasoning my reasoning is i'm sick and tired of

01:28:32.120 seeing articles of like trend aragua rapes a woman in this state ms 13 rapes a man in the in this state

01:28:38.140 or woman or whatever it be they're freaking crazy my issue is all of these people you can't say violent

01:28:43.780 criminal aliens because we didn't know they were violent before we looked into them we have no idea who

01:28:49.040 these people are even if they've been here for 30 years that's a great point hold on i like this guy

01:28:53.260 he's a bad point i i want to i want to say two things you say uh like cast your fellow americans

01:28:57.640 aside i think at all levels uh immigration helps american citizens i thought that this cato focus on

01:29:04.100 this point i will focus on this hold on hold on i will focus on molly tibbitz because because

01:29:08.300 undocumented no you don't who said that i said who said lakin riley who's molly tibbitz exactly because

01:29:15.380 she was a woman killed under donald trump so you pick on the woman that was killed under joe biden

01:29:19.520 by an illegal you mean by an undocumented immigrant yeah right so she was she was listen listen to

01:29:24.940 what i'm saying to you listen to what i'm saying the illegals didn't all just disappear hold on

01:29:28.600 hold on michael hold on michael you specifically you know lakin riley's name for a political reason

01:29:34.020 i ask you who's molly tibbitz a woman who was killed you don't know her because it happened under

01:29:38.360 donald trump and you don't care if it happens under donald trump in fairness president the question

01:29:41.540 you don't know who she is you don't know she is to this to this graceful to this point i don't care

01:29:47.320 that she was murdered you don't care that she was murdered well there's a federal law you said

01:29:50.520 i don't care so do you do you do you care or no well you don't no you don't care enough excuse me

01:29:57.320 you don't care enough however here is still evading you don't care enough because you didn't know her

01:30:00.900 name regardless you didn't know her name regardless you was okay disgraceful you're disgraceful 0.96

01:30:06.240 It is disgraceful that so many Americans are killed by illegals. 1.00

01:30:09.860 Undocumented immigrants commit significantly less crime than native-born Americans. 0.75

01:30:13.020 It's not even close.

01:30:13.280 And that's my point, regardless of the economic data that shows that undocumented people support the United States fiscally for a variety of reasons. 0.57

01:30:20.160 It's also, through two separate studies, undocumented individuals are less likely to commit violent crimes than native-born U.S. citizens.

01:30:28.320 Hold on.

01:30:28.980 Okay.

01:30:30.080 Hold on.

01:30:30.420 Two things.

01:30:30.840 I said violent crime, number one.

01:30:32.640 I said violent crime.

01:30:33.860 So, sure, if they're in the...

01:30:34.820 Which is what we should be focused on.

01:30:35.380 Right, which is what we should be focused on.

01:30:36.700 You talked about how people are dying.

01:30:38.100 People are talking about Lake and Riley.

01:30:39.520 We obviously all think that violent crime is unacceptable, but undocumented individuals are less likely... 0.90

01:30:44.980 I'm going to distill it down.

01:30:45.600 To his point.

01:30:46.380 ...are less likely to commit violent crimes than native U.S.-born citizens.

01:30:49.140 We're doing a lot of bill bus crime here.

01:30:50.720 I'm going to distill down the point.

01:30:52.780 Jacob's question is, why would you throw your native fellow Americans under the bus because you say we should deport the violent criminal native... 0.99

01:31:02.220 Hold on.

01:31:02.760 Illegal aliens. 1.00

01:31:03.380 ...but we only know that they're violent criminals once they have committed the crime.

01:31:07.900 And the premise here is that none of these crimes, not a single one of them, would have been committed if the illegals had simply been deported in the first place. 0.70

01:31:15.620 You voted for...

01:31:16.200 I wonder...

01:31:16.920 That's the point.

01:31:17.900 It's mind-numbing to me that you keep bringing up certain crimes by certain people, but you again voted for a convicted felon.

01:31:22.580 Because they have no right to be here.

01:31:24.180 We have to deal with the people who have...

01:31:24.820 You voted for a convicted felon.

01:31:25.760 You clearly don't care about violations a lot that much.

01:31:27.040 You're totally distracting me from the point.

01:31:28.040 No, it's important.

01:31:29.580 It's a philosophical view.

01:31:30.940 Focus on this point.

01:31:31.540 It's a philosophical view.

01:31:32.700 But we're talking about a specific issue.

01:31:34.800 On this point, we have to deal with the American citizens who commit crimes. 0.97

01:31:39.820 We can't just deport them.

01:31:40.800 We have to deal with them.

01:31:41.580 Sure.

01:31:42.320 The illegal aliens who are here, who go on to commit more violent crimes, we don't have 1.00

01:31:46.440 to deal with them.

01:31:47.200 So every single violent crime that an illegal alien commits is unnecessary. 0.98

01:31:51.300 And to Jacob's point, as he's asking you, why would you allow...

01:31:54.640 Why would you open yourself up and your fellow Americans up to even one of those violent crimes

01:31:58.680 or rapes or murder when you don't have to and it's against the law?

01:32:01.140 Wait, you were part of the people that opened us up to the crimes of Donald Trump.

01:32:05.460 You're trying to distract because you say...

01:32:06.500 That's not because you don't care about the law.

01:32:08.120 You don't care about the law.

01:32:09.400 The beginning of the question is why would you open up your fellow Americans to this

01:32:16.700 suggesting that illegal immigration or immigration as a whole is this massive disservice?

01:32:21.520 I disagree.

01:32:22.100 We're speaking about illegal immigration.

01:32:23.860 I disagree with the premise.

01:32:25.580 I disagree with the premise of the question.

01:32:26.660 What's the premise?

01:32:27.480 The premise being the suggestion that illegal immigrants are somehow much more likely to

01:32:31.500 be committing violent crimes.

01:32:32.380 That's not the premise.

01:32:32.680 You're strawmanning that.

01:32:33.580 I know.

01:32:33.880 That's not the premise.

01:32:34.440 I just told you the premise.

01:32:35.420 The premise is any crime that is committed by an illegal in America is unnecessary.

01:32:40.420 Why would you therefore support illegal immigration?

01:32:42.640 Because that's the premise.

01:32:43.700 Do you disagree with that?

01:32:44.580 We don't support.

01:32:45.560 We don't want people to come in illegally.

01:32:48.000 We don't want illegal immigration. 1.00

01:32:48.620 So you want to deport the illegals?

01:32:49.900 No, no, no.

01:32:50.180 But listen, because again, Michael, this is why it's nuanced, right?

01:32:54.860 We want everybody to come in legally.

01:32:56.900 Follow the law.

01:32:57.500 We actually care about the law over here.

01:32:58.880 Follow the law.

01:32:59.480 Come in legally.

01:33:00.140 We don't want people to come in illegally.

01:33:01.340 But we recognize that the immigration system right now is broken.

01:33:04.060 There are people who are facing gang violence in their respective countries that want a

01:33:07.520 better life for their kids.

01:33:08.300 I'm sure that everybody in this room can put themselves in the shoes of an undocumented 1.00

01:33:11.800 immigrant who's being targeted.

01:33:13.040 Their kids are being targeted.

01:33:14.080 It's a sad story.

01:33:14.260 And they would do anything to save their family.

01:33:15.360 Is anybody going to answer Jacob's question or no?

01:33:17.280 Wait, it's nuanced.

01:33:18.260 That's why I'm explaining it right now.

01:33:19.600 It's all nuanced.

01:33:20.300 Is anyone going to answer it?

01:33:21.280 Just to be clear.

01:33:21.800 We want legal immigration.

01:33:23.040 We recognize the system is broken.

01:33:24.280 We wanted to fix it.

01:33:25.100 Joe Biden introduced a bill.

01:33:26.160 Donald Trump shut it down.

01:33:27.140 You're right.

01:33:27.480 That bill would have exacerbated the problem. 0.99

01:33:28.720 I think it does.

01:33:29.360 Because it would have given more illegal aliens a path to citizenship in the United States 0.98

01:33:35.000 and it would have encouraged more mass migration.

01:33:36.960 Wait, so encouraging people to become legal citizens is bad now?

01:33:40.120 Yes.

01:33:41.500 Wait, so now, okay.

01:33:42.580 So we don't want to reward the crime and create more of it.

01:33:44.960 You just hate all immigrants, legal or illegal.

01:33:48.320 Is that my understanding?

01:33:48.880 Where did you get that from?

01:33:49.680 Well, you just said that we shouldn't bring, we shouldn't give undocumented immigrants 1.00

01:33:52.680 a pathway to citizenship, making them legal.

01:33:54.340 So do you hate-

01:33:54.640 Right, we should not reward their crimes and you don't fix a problem by just redefining

01:33:59.040 the problem, which is what that law would do. 0.92

01:34:00.420 If they've been given, if they've been in the United States for 30 years, they've given

01:34:03.520 back to their community by working a job they haven't committed a crime, why shouldn't

01:34:06.320 they be rewarded citizenship?

01:34:07.140 They can go back and apply to become American citizens if they want.

01:34:09.320 With the broken system as it stands right now?

01:34:11.120 What, are they going to go face gang violence?

01:34:12.880 They're all facing gang violence.

01:34:14.100 Man, we got a lot of hypotheticals here, huh?

01:34:16.080 We should enforce the law.

01:34:17.100 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:34:18.680 Hypotheticals test logic.

01:34:19.260 Yeah, didn't your hypothetical start with if there's an undocumented person here and they

01:34:22.800 happen to commit a violent crime, then therefore it's an atrocity that they're all here?

01:34:25.380 Yeah, that was the question that neither of you will answer.

01:34:27.420 Okay, because again, I disagree.

01:34:29.980 Okay, you won't answer it.

01:34:30.840 I give up.

01:34:31.440 Who won that round?

01:34:32.780 Do we believe it was the liberals?

01:34:36.340 Thanks, Mike.

01:34:36.900 Thank you, Mike.

01:34:37.540 Thanks, Mike.

01:34:37.740 We didn't even get the other one.

01:34:38.740 That's great.

01:34:39.640 Okay, and who thinks it was the conservative side?

01:34:41.820 Okay.

01:34:42.820 All right.

01:34:43.680 Are we going to pick a VIP for it?

01:34:45.480 Are we going to get a VIP over there?

01:34:47.120 I defer.

01:34:47.960 Jacob wants it.

01:34:48.720 Who gets it?

01:34:49.200 Who gets it?

01:34:49.940 I want.

01:34:50.520 Oh, he didn't ask the question.

01:34:51.440 Oh, I got to go with my guy in the, I forget his name, baseball cap.

01:34:56.780 I'm sorry.

01:34:57.120 Jacob, right?

01:34:57.620 Jacob.

01:34:58.060 Is that Jacob?

01:34:58.500 I'm sorry, Jacob.

01:34:59.380 I've talked to you.

01:35:00.200 I should remember your name.

01:35:01.000 I apologize.

01:35:01.580 Jacob was very nice to us all day when you were at your head.

01:35:04.520 He was nice to you?

01:35:05.320 He was nice.

01:35:05.740 I gave him explicit instructions to be a huge jerk.

01:35:09.500 Okay.

01:35:09.820 Jacob, you've been great.

01:35:10.500 Come on.

01:35:10.760 In my opinion, nobody wins a bar fight.

01:35:13.000 They're only losers.

01:35:14.660 So the question is, who lost the hardest tonight?

01:35:18.480 Which is related to who's buying the next round, which is not related to, but it is coincident

01:35:22.780 with, when is Harry giving me my 20 bucks?

01:35:25.760 Now, who thinks the biggest loser was Harry?

01:35:34.080 It was rigged from the start.

01:35:36.720 It was rigged from the start.

01:35:38.680 Okay.

01:35:39.360 Who thinks the biggest loser was Chris?

01:35:42.880 Wow.

01:35:43.400 Okay.

01:35:44.080 Unbelievable.

01:35:45.240 All right, man.

01:35:46.380 Who thinks the biggest loser was me? 0.80

01:35:49.420 Come on.

01:35:49.920 Whoa.

01:35:50.280 Come on.

01:35:51.300 And they have microphones, so it's kind of louder.

01:35:53.380 Okay.

01:35:54.320 I guess it was Harry.

01:35:55.460 That was, I knew it from the minute he walked out.

01:35:57.360 I had a feeling.

01:35:58.100 I knew it from the minute he walked out.

01:35:58.680 I had a feeling.

01:35:59.460 I had a feeling.

01:35:59.960 That means you killed him.

01:36:00.760 Oh, thanks, man.

01:36:01.080 Thank you, Harry.

01:36:01.960 I'm glad.

01:36:02.440 I love this.

01:36:03.060 We thank you all for being here.

01:36:04.240 Thank you both for being here.

01:36:05.380 Thank you.

01:36:05.500 We'll see you all at the next bar fight.

01:36:07.540 We'll see you all at the next bar.

01:36:11.880 We'll see you next door.

01:36:13.880 There you go.

01:36:15.000 Yeah.

01:36:15.180 We'll see you next door.

01:36:15.940 I'll see you next door.

01:36:16.320 We'll see you then.

01:36:16.380 We'll see you next door.

01:36:17.880 We'll see you next door.

The Michael Knowles Show - February 07, 2026

2 Liberals vs. 1 Conservative： BAR FIGHT ｜ Sisson & Chris Mowrey

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