The Michael Knowles Show - Alien Expert Breaks Down Spielberg’s ＂Disclosure Day＂ Movie

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00:01:58.580 I have not yet seen Disclosure Day.

00:02:27.820 I saw the trailer. I've spoken to a number of government sources and the supposed UFO disclosure.

00:02:36.120 And I guess I'm going to have to go see this movie, even though I don't believe in aliens.

00:02:41.200 And I think the whole thing is bunk and nonsense and even worse.

00:02:45.380 However, my guest, Derek Warfel, has in fact seen Disclosure Day.

00:02:50.480 He is a filmmaker, an author, a researcher with more than 40 years of experience in Hollywood.

00:02:55.120 And he has a book, UFOs and God, Revealing Deception and Truth Behind the Supernatural Invisible War.

00:03:03.300 Derek, thank you for coming on the show.

00:03:05.940 Thanks for having me.

00:03:07.160 So right off the bat, without spoilers, at least first, how was the movie?

00:03:14.740 Well, you know, technically it was great.

00:03:17.340 I mean, the stunts were great.

00:03:18.580 The acting was incredible.

00:03:19.960 The score by John Williams was incredible.

00:03:21.900 uh the only thing that was bunk was the uh the message but uh but the rest i mean technically

00:03:30.040 as a filmmaker it was i mean the stunt scene with the car and the train was i still don't

00:03:35.480 know how they did it i really don't i mean it's you know so it was it was it was an entertaining

00:03:39.860 ride but the message uh i think is you know if aliens were trying to put together a propaganda

00:03:48.920 puff piece for themselves they couldn't have done a better job than steven spielberg did on this film

00:03:55.080 i mean it's it's amazing and i wonder since i think that aliens don't exist but the propaganda

00:04:03.320 puff piece does then i begin to wonder well okay what is this a propaganda puff piece on behalf of

00:04:09.740 and so before we maybe we'll get into some spoilers in just a moment but for right now

00:04:15.100 just from the trailer, you mentioned the message of the movie. Two lines really stuck out to me.

00:04:20.800 The most extraordinary event in human history, referring to the disclosure of the extraterrestrial

00:04:27.680 aliens. And I thought, well, hold on, hold on. I'm a Christian. So I think that the most extraordinary

00:04:34.380 event in human history is when God becomes incarnate and then conquers death on the cross

00:04:40.040 and is resurrected on the third day. I would say this is not only, not only is this the most

00:04:44.660 extraordinary event that has taken place in history, this is the most extraordinary event

00:04:48.020 that could possibly take place in history. So when the UFO people say, well, actually,

00:04:51.940 the most extraordinary event is going to be when little green men come down and say,

00:04:54.960 we come in peace, you know, Dumbledore or whatever, I don't know, you know, like Darth Vader,

00:05:00.060 then that to me represents a totally contrary view of history. The other line that stood out

00:05:07.040 from the trailer, remind us, oh yes, that this event would remind us that there's something

00:05:13.400 bigger out there than just ourselves. You say, well, hold on. I don't need to be reminded of

00:05:18.180 that. I know that there's something bigger than just myself. I try to pray every day. I think I

00:05:23.120 pray every single day. And so here, you're really seeing them hammered home that the UFOs and the

00:05:29.520 aliens are a kind of substitute religion, a re-enchantment of a disenchanted world,

00:05:34.680 a new kind of materialist religion for people who gave up their religion.

00:05:38.840 And final line, wouldn't it be wonderful to know this was all true?

00:05:45.020 Steven Spielberg says this line in the trailer.

00:05:46.720 Wouldn't it be wonderful to know? 0.99

00:05:48.720 And I'd say, I don't think it'd be necessarily wonderful to know that little green men are out there prodding people, probing people. 1.00

00:05:54.880 I don't know. 1.00

00:05:55.240 Are they good?

00:05:55.980 Are they evil?

00:05:57.080 Why would that be wonderful?

00:05:58.980 Just like, I don't know, if I discover there's some new species of bear, I guess that's fine, unless the bear is going to come eat me, in which case it's not so wonderful.

00:06:05.600 But you clearly see the religious theological virtue of hope is just clearly being directed at totally the wrong place.

00:06:15.440 Am I wrong?

00:06:17.160 No, no, you're absolutely right.

00:06:19.220 I mean, you know, if you're a Christian, you believe that there has been a supernatural realm of beings that, for lack of a better term, we call angels, that have been trying to deceive us and destroy us.

00:06:35.260 Jesus calls them basically kill, steal, and destroy, that God created a realm of supernatural

00:06:43.260 beings called angels to do his tasks. One-third of them rebelled against him and have been at war

00:06:49.700 with him ever since. And their goal, since they can't get back directly at God, they go after us,

00:06:57.300 okay, to deceive us, to destroy us, to kill, steal, and destroy. And this has been true 1.00

00:07:06.380 throughout all of history. The ancient Near Eastern gods, the ancient Egyptian gods,

00:07:15.160 the Arabic djinn, the demons that Jesus ran across. I mean, there's been various movements,

00:07:22.400 a ghost poltergeist of supernatural paranormal beings that seek to distract and destroy us

00:07:30.100 this with aliens is nothing but a new coat of paint on an old deception i believe there is

00:07:38.160 something there i think there's just too many examples of credible sightings too many examples

00:07:44.240 of people who have been quote-unquote abducted i don't know what that exactly means to basically

00:07:51.900 just write it off. But it certainly is not intergalactic travelers. That just is not true.

00:07:59.580 And the reason why science disproves it, we spent a time interviewing Hugh Ross, who's an

00:08:04.020 astrophysicist, and he gave several reasons why it's just utterly impossible for them to be

00:08:10.500 intergalactic travelers. One is there's no other planet exactly like Earth. There's too many things

00:08:15.920 that are fine-tuned to make life possible on Earth. Second is the distances are too great.

00:08:20.960 I mean, just to get to the closest star to us, Alpha Centauri, traveling at the speed

00:08:26.560 of Voyager 1 would take 75,000 years.

00:08:30.700 And if you go 10 times faster than that, it's still 7,500 years.

00:08:34.480 And that's the closest star.

00:08:36.500 And the other thing is the possibility of life occurring by chance.

00:08:41.440 To get one simple bacterium by chance, by absolute chance and time, it would be 10,

00:08:50.960 They calculated to the 556th power to one.

00:08:55.760 That's 10 followed by 556 zeros to one.

00:09:01.040 Just for comparison, the California state lottery is 10 to the ninth power to one.

00:09:06.020 Okay, it's just impossible.

00:09:07.760 And the reason why is since science came in, science is a technology to test hypotheses.

00:09:15.660 But scientists have taken it to another level and made it a religion.

00:09:19.740 they basically start with the premise that there's nothing outside the material universe.

00:09:26.720 Well, that's an assumption. It's not a tested assumption. Every single culture,

00:09:33.420 every single religion admits that there's something supernatural beyond what our physical

00:09:39.380 beings are. But modern science rejects that, not because of evidence, but because of an assumption.

00:09:46.680 And when you start with that assumption,

00:09:48.700 you're going to run with the wrong conclusions.

00:09:50.640 And you're going to find our military even basically thinking,

00:09:54.520 well, these must be beings from other planets or other galaxies.

00:09:57.900 Yeah, this is the thing.

00:09:58.820 I've spoken to members of the government and they insist,

00:10:03.020 even people who were kind of skeptical at the beginning,

00:10:05.100 they insist there's something to this, this might be real.

00:10:07.520 And it seems like there are, I guess, four explanations

00:10:12.020 for what the UFOs could be.

00:10:14.620 One of them is little green men.

00:10:17.120 One of them is hallucinations.

00:10:19.240 It's just people imagining them,

00:10:21.200 which again is hard because so many people

00:10:23.320 have seen so many of the same objects.

00:10:25.480 One of them is demons.

00:10:28.260 That's kind of, it seems like your thesis, my thesis,

00:10:30.760 the vice president seemed to have advanced that thesis.

00:10:33.260 And then the fourth option is China.

00:10:35.500 It could just be a geopolitical adversary.

00:10:38.000 And I was speaking to a member of the government

00:10:40.340 and I asked him, I said,

00:10:42.000 who was pretty privy to these matters. 1.00

00:10:43.940 And I said, I don't know which is scarier, that it's Martians, demons, or the Chinese. 1.00

00:10:50.060 Frankly, it being the Chinese is probably the most scary to me. 1.00

00:10:53.440 At least my cosmology takes into account demons and angels. 1.00

00:10:59.400 My cosmology doesn't actually take into account Martians, but I don't know if they're good or bad. 1.00

00:11:04.820 But I know the Chinese have it out for us. 1.00

00:11:06.600 So actually, that would be the worst for me.

00:11:07.980 is your thesis that the ufos are demons or do you leave possibility for other explanations

00:11:14.800 i think demons is the wrong word to use it's a supernatural evil realm demons we think of as

00:11:23.840 little chubby men in skin-tight red suits with a pitchfork and horns that's not how i think of

00:11:32.080 them to be fair i mean i recognize there's this image of devils and things but but i don't i

00:11:36.440 don't really think of them that way. You know, I think of demons as a sort of spiritual creature

00:11:43.780 who rebelled against God. You know, and I think some people use the term that way.

00:11:48.840 If that's what you're saying, I'd say fine. But Ephesians 6.12 says there's four types

00:11:54.500 of supernatural beings. There's principalities, powers, world forces of darkness, spiritual

00:12:00.840 forces of wickedness in heavenly places. In the book of Daniel, it talks about one of them

00:12:05.400 as the Prince of Persia. Literally, these are very powerful beings. I mean, cartoons and

00:12:12.760 Renaissance art has positioned us to believe that they're just kind of foolish little cartoonish 0.97

00:12:20.600 characters. And I think what I'm saying is they are very, very intelligent beings and very powerful 0.59

00:12:28.780 beings. And so I tend to like to use the word supernatural evil spirits because it covers a

00:12:37.120 much broader term. China, I doubt it's China. These spacecraft or energy fields have been

00:12:46.660 clocked at somewhere between, in our atmosphere, 40,000 to 200,000 miles an hour. That's Mach 55

00:12:56.040 and up. Our fastest jets travel at Mach 3. And even the experimental ones are Mach 5.

00:13:07.840 These guys are going at Mach 55, and then they disappear. I don't think China can do that. And

00:13:14.580 I think most people in the military would say that they can't. So I don't think it's China.

00:13:20.980 I don't think it's all hallucinations. There was a psychiatrist in Harvard, Dr. John Mack,

00:13:29.960 who interviewed a lot of these people who had these abduction experiences, and he said he

00:13:34.700 couldn't find any psychosis. They actually had some experience. Obviously, there are some that

00:13:41.500 are probably hallucinations. People like Hugh Ross have said that probably 99% of what these

00:13:50.480 contacts are, can be explained by natural means. But there's 1% that just cannot. I mean,

00:13:58.200 the videos that were taken by the U.S. Navy ship in 2003 of these craft, you know, video, radar,

00:14:10.100 forward infrared radar, it can't be, and you can look it up online, there's pictures of it.

00:14:17.520 And we interviewed one of the radar operators who was on that ship and he said he watched this for several days. It doesn't. I mean, you have to explain that away. It's not easy to explain. There's something going on. And I believe the best explanation is the supernatural realm.

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00:15:55.680 the problem is we live in a scientific age that has eliminated the possibility of a supernatural

00:16:03.560 realm yeah yeah i agree with that i agree my i guess my question then is how the spiritual realm

00:16:11.060 relates to the physical realm i totally agree the scientists just take it as axiomatic that only

00:16:16.460 material exists which is contrary to reason actually you know it's contrary to what every

00:16:21.460 society has thought for all of all of history uh so including frankly including our own but but

00:16:26.740 uh i recognize that the question is if these are spiritual beings that is um they don't have

00:16:33.140 bodies then why do we see them why have if it is the case as has been reported that we've recovered

00:16:41.120 some of these unidentified flying objects if they if they have a physical dimension

00:16:46.760 Does that complicate the idea that they're spiritual creatures?

00:16:50.980 Well, there's two answers to that.

00:16:52.800 One is, if you look at angels, I mean, holy angels in the Bible, because remember, what

00:16:58.780 we're talking about here are fallen angels that have many of the same characteristics.

00:17:03.540 The Bible says you may have entertained angels unaware, which means they can look exactly

00:17:09.960 like us, okay?

00:17:12.380 They can look exactly like holy angels.

00:17:15.040 The Bible says that even Satan can look like an angel of light.

00:17:19.420 They can shapeshift.

00:17:20.420 And I think the one thing ancient aliens has done is pointed out that whatever these beings are, they can shapeshift.

00:17:27.320 They can manifest in the material universe.

00:17:31.200 I don't know for how long or whatever, but they have that ability.

00:17:36.920 You know, so, I mean, Jesus ate fish for goodness sake.

00:17:41.360 He was resurrected.

00:17:42.740 But Christ was resurrected bodily.

00:17:45.040 That is to say, he not only came back as a spirit, but his body actually walked out of the tomb.

00:17:52.660 But I think your point is right, where you see this in the Old Testament and in our modern life,

00:17:57.860 all the way out, not just through the New Testament, but all the way up through our modern life,

00:18:00.680 that people do see angels.

00:18:02.700 They actually see them, you know, and they actually talk to them.

00:18:05.060 And so you make a good point, which is that somehow they can have a physical appearance or dimension.

00:18:10.620 I think the angels that visited Lot ate with him, you know.

00:18:13.980 I don't know. I don't know what the limits are. All I know is that angels can manifest in the

00:18:20.000 physical realm, whether they manifest fully physically, I don't know, but they can be seen

00:18:25.700 that it can be recognized. And I believe that fallen angels can do many of the same things

00:18:31.220 that holy angels can. They may have lost some of those. The other option, and this is a little

00:18:36.100 bit wild. Remember I said the angels can do everything we do. If we can create spacecrafts,

00:18:41.720 they can, they, if he's, or what's it? Ezekiel one talks about an apparent spacecraft that was

00:18:47.920 run by holy angels. Uh, if we can create robots that are almost lifelike, so can they. And think

00:18:57.400 about it. When we send something to Mars, we don't go there ourself. We send a robot because

00:19:02.600 we can't survive there. Right? Well, maybe they can't do as well in our three-dimensional time

00:19:09.220 and space. Maybe many

00:19:11.320 of these greys are, in fact, 1.00

00:19:13.900 very sophisticated 0.99

00:19:15.020 androids.

00:19:17.260 And when you say greys, by the way,

00:19:19.200 I've spoken to buddies who are into the

00:19:21.160 UFO research, and the 0.99

00:19:23.100 grey, I say, what are you talking about, little green men? 0.99

00:19:25.180 They say, no, no, no. The proper 1.00

00:19:27.040 term we use in the community is greys. 1.00

00:19:29.600 These little grey men,

00:19:30.860 who you see come up in a lot of these UFO stories.

00:19:32.960 So your suggestion, which has never

00:19:34.960 occurred to me, is, what if the greys 0.98

00:19:37.180 are just kind of machines? 0.67

00:19:39.220 yeah yeah absolutely i mean now obviously they have some sort of flesh coat and that flesh coat

00:19:46.140 can die because aliens who have been in captivity from us have apparently died okay but do we believe

00:19:56.160 that that has happened i mean is it within your thesis that we actually because i think it's all

00:20:00.520 bogus i don't think we've actually taken in when they refer to non-human biologics i i don't believe

00:20:06.780 what do i know about i don't work in the government but i i'm very skeptical do you

00:20:10.740 believe we've actually retrieved alien bodies yeah i i think we've retrieved bodies i don't

00:20:16.220 know that they're they're they're actually angelic i think they're kind of robotic bodies if they're

00:20:21.140 retrieved because they've died the reason why is there's a pretty documented case about a an alien

00:20:27.660 called j-rod who was validated by both uh a military officer and a biologist who was given

00:20:36.000 to take care of him, this is Area 51, that he helped them reverse engineer one of these

00:20:45.020 crafts.

00:20:46.060 I don't know if they ever completed it or not, but the point is, I mean, they're on

00:20:51.060 the books.

00:20:51.440 They had to sign NDA and they broke the NDAs.

00:20:54.340 Now, you're right.

00:20:55.120 We don't have solid proof that people can go and talk to them and you can interview

00:21:01.880 them and things like that.

00:21:03.220 But I think there's enough evidence out there, and a lot of it's been locked up, that there probably were these beings.

00:21:11.400 And I think the best explanation is that they're androids.

00:21:16.620 I mean, the film Avatar is interesting to me because you have a guy who's a military guy who's disabled, but he is able to put his hands into this robotic body and enter this realm that he cannot survive in on his own.

00:21:30.860 so i think it's possible i mean i i give credit to this a guy called la marzulli who first time

00:21:38.300 i heard it i thought well that's a possible the other possibility is that when a leaf falls from

00:21:46.040 a tree it looks exactly like it was initially after a few days it looks very crumbled up yeah

00:21:53.200 and discrepit. When fallen angels separated from God, they were separating themselves from their

00:22:01.360 life source. So it's possible they lost many of the abilities they once had. And the ability to

00:22:08.720 manifest physically in this realm may have been lost. And we would call it that they died. Like

00:22:14.840 for instance, demons in Jesus' day, Jesus points out that when demons are cast out of a body,

00:22:21.200 They go over waterless places, that sounds interesting, and then they come back to the

00:22:27.580 person they were cast out of, and they come back into him.

00:22:31.060 Apparently, there is some need for lower-level demons to inhabit a physical body to manifest

00:22:38.080 in this time and space.

00:22:40.620 And so, it's possible that the ones who basically, at one point, had that ability to manifest

00:22:47.700 physically can no longer do that.

00:22:49.540 So I think it's one of those two things.

00:22:52.160 You know, I wonder, too, on the technology point, you know, there are all sorts of writings and theories of people who write about demons and spiritual matters that, yeah, demons actually might have something to do with technology.

00:23:07.060 I mean, this, in a way, is kind of the Prometheus myth that you have this figure come down the mountain and give technology to man.

00:23:16.680 And so you see this crop up a lot.

00:23:18.580 I mean, there are all sorts of kind of wacky theories, though interesting nonetheless, of how demons helped people to build the pyramids or something.

00:23:27.640 Well, I don't know about the pyramids, but you can just look in modern science.

00:23:30.700 There was an Indian mathematician who basically came up with some amazing things.

00:23:36.600 He hadn't have much formal training.

00:23:39.060 And you know where he said he got his formulas from?

00:23:42.660 Where?

00:23:43.060 He said he got them in dreams from a Hindu goddess who gave them to him.

00:23:47.340 so yes i mean there's a book called the akasha record but you know we don't have it it's

00:23:54.600 somewhere in space but apparently is a compilation of all these demonic

00:23:59.560 discoveries i mean they have been studying science and biology i mean look at look at

00:24:05.600 look at the magicians in jesus i mean oppenheimer quotes the vedas when he creates the nuclear bomb

00:24:10.720 right he says i am become death destroyer of worlds an eccentric buddy of mine calls the

00:24:15.000 nuclear bomb shiva magic i don't know maybe maybe he's speaking out of turn well look look at the

00:24:20.360 egyptian magicians in moses day okay they threw a rod on the ground and it turned into a snake

00:24:27.900 what did that happen or not they basically turned water into blood they basically were able to match

00:24:35.740 moses miracles up to the frogs okay they obviously had some biological ability and they've been

00:24:43.680 studying biology for thousands of years. Can you imagine if Einstein could study physics

00:24:49.940 for thousands of years? You know, they're very intelligent. They're trying to create their own

00:24:55.920 world, their own race of human beings. And there's a thing in the book of Revelation 0.97

00:25:02.520 where the Antichrist is supposedly assassinated and then comes back to life. Well, they, I mean,

00:25:10.020 look at all the cattle mutilations why are they doing that because they just like playing with

00:25:14.140 cattle yeah this also this is one of the theories that the aliens come down and they mutilate cattle

00:25:18.660 i remember those stories from like the 90s yes well yeah why do they do i kind of forgotten about

00:25:24.680 that why do they do that i think it's studying biology you know i mean basically you find that

00:25:33.000 basically cattle are similar to us in some ways i mean they're trying to create their own race

00:25:38.560 I believe. They were stopped in Genesis 6. The sons of God tried to cohabitate with women and

00:25:48.200 God stopped that, but they still want to create their own race. They want to duplicate God. Again, 1.00

00:25:54.740 it gets back to the basic thesis that they are trying to lure people away from God. They're

00:26:01.000 trying to dethrone God. And you see this very clearly. If you see it, obviously, in the

00:26:07.780 temptation of ease, but you see it in the temptation of Jesus, where basically Satan

00:26:13.740 says to Jesus, you know, bow down before me and I'll give you all these kingdoms of the world.

00:26:22.160 Jesus must have thought, I don't have to go to the cross to save these people and get them to

00:26:27.480 follow me. But if in doing that, Satan would have split God the Father and God the Son

00:26:34.220 against each other. And how do you defeat a superior enemy? You divide and conquer.

00:26:40.020 You divide and conquer. Jesus didn't fall for it, but Eve did. And basically because of that, 0.96

00:26:47.620 when it wasn't just her taking a bite of the apple, it was her submitting to Satan. And when

00:26:52.900 Adam did the same thing, they had been given dominion over this earth. But when they basically

00:26:58.920 accepted satan's thing and accepted his rule they lost dominion and the bible even says satan is the

00:27:06.780 ruler of this world now he's limited by what the holy spirit allows but he is but he is the bible

00:27:13.800 says it many times yeah satan is the prince of the power of the air so is so to bring us full circle

00:27:20.780 is the disclosure day movie is it just like a sort of technically impressive otherwise kind of goofy

00:27:27.800 a little off kilter movie or apropos of the rest of our conversation is steven spielberg's latest

00:27:35.480 movie satanic it certainly is uh i would say basically as i said it's a dis remember they

00:27:41.460 have been trying to deceive us from the beginning of time if they can say that we are just your

00:27:47.500 solar friends here to help you to the next level of evolution which is what they say when people

00:27:53.560 have contacted them you know basically you can trust us the one line in the film that sticks out

00:27:59.600 to me is when uh was it margaret the weather woman says uh you know don't be afraid of what

00:28:08.480 you don't know in other words if you're afraid of what you don't know you're being xenophobic

00:28:13.940 does that sound like something else in modern politics right you know don't be xenophobic

00:28:19.120 about these people. Well, apply that principle to every other area of your life. Suppose you're

00:28:26.540 going to a mortgage broker. You don't know him. You don't know anything about mortgages.

00:28:31.420 You just don't be afraid. Don't be concerned that you might get cheated. If you're in the woods and

00:28:36.700 you don't have a good map, don't be afraid that you might be wandering into an area where, you

00:28:42.220 know, cougars are or there's a waterfall or something. I mean, that's absurd. They're trying

00:28:47.740 to say look you know trust us at the i don't want to give a but there's there's an alien in the film

00:28:53.560 that basically says listen don't don't criticize don't analyze don't evaluate just listen to us

00:29:03.380 and and i mean that i mean as i said this is a huge propaganda piece that if you don't listen

00:29:10.640 you're being xenophobic but think about you know to your point on this think about the just

00:29:15.280 more terrestrial political point. One of the criticisms I've seen of Disclosure Day is that

00:29:20.340 Steven Spielberg is just sort of the eternal lib boomer. And this is the last gasp of just

00:29:26.280 open borders, welcome the foreigner kind of politics. And so that actually his agenda might 0.94

00:29:33.760 be less Luciferian and more just kind of rote, lib, milquetoast, ultimately destructive politics.

00:29:42.560 Or I guess it could be both.

00:29:45.220 If I had a chance to ask him one question, I would say, Stephen, did you ever have an

00:29:49.180 encounter with one of these beings when you were a child?

00:29:52.720 Because there's stories that he had imaginary friends.

00:29:57.200 Of course, that could just be an innocent thing.

00:29:59.380 Yeah.

00:29:59.960 But it seems like you look at close encounters, you look at E.T., there's something there

00:30:06.180 that says, you know, he has had experiences himself.

00:30:10.260 He may not have talked about them, but I don't think he sees himself as demonic.

00:30:16.160 I think he sees that, you know, the world needs to know about this, you know, is that

00:30:21.540 there's another realm out there.

00:30:23.740 The problem is, and ancient aliens says this in almost every episode, we are not alone.

00:30:29.160 We've never been alone.

00:30:30.880 And I agree with them.

00:30:32.440 We're not alone.

00:30:33.840 We've never been alone.

00:30:35.560 The problem is that they're not who you think they are.

00:30:38.440 they're far more dangerous and things let me just give you one thing they talk about the fact they

00:30:44.220 show that humans are abusing the aliens in these in this film okay they never talk about the people

00:30:51.440 who've had contact with these beings uh there's a thing there's a thing online on the government

00:30:56.700 sites people have had contact they have headaches fever nosebleeds heart palpitations burned skin

00:31:02.820 nightmares, brain problems, paralysis, temporary loss of time, temporary blindness,

00:31:08.080 intense fear, nausea. We've documented in the film, people have lost their family. They've

00:31:13.400 lost their finances. They've lost a lot of things in life. If you don't believe me,

00:31:18.040 look at the book by Jack Sparks, who has probably been abducted more than anybody else. He wrote a

00:31:24.080 book called The Keepers. Read that book and ask if that's what you want in your life.

00:31:29.180 you know i mean basically these are not friendly beings they say they won't hurt us and they hurt

00:31:35.120 us uh you know and so there's a sense in which you know it's like we're the bad guys because

00:31:41.100 in 1973 we dissected some aliens uh but they're perfectly good you just got to trust them you

00:31:48.280 can't it's as i said don't be afraid of what you don't know i mean this is ridiculous it repeats

00:31:52.800 that twice in the film well you know there's other things sorry go ahead no that's that's i

00:31:58.920 mean there's a lot of things i could state i don't want to cut you off well no just a last

00:32:02.680 question on this point because my friend who's an exorcist father dan rehill he publicly said

00:32:07.480 yeah that he he wondered if it might be spiritually dangerous to watch the movie he wondered if there

00:32:13.820 was a sort of curse on the movie or something like that for people who are watching this right

00:32:17.340 now we're saying it's technically a good movie but it's got all this bad stuff in it but it's

00:32:21.340 kind of interesting would you encourage people to go see it well i would say like any other film

00:32:28.460 from hollywood you need to go in with your defenses up uh there's this one scene where

00:32:35.140 basically uh the weather woman is clicking you know it's like that the aliens are speaking

00:32:40.880 through her i put fingers in my ear at that point because i don't know what i'm hearing

00:32:45.480 You know, I've studied a lot about subliminal messaging, you know, and how that works when people, I even encourage people, if there's a UFO outside, let's go out and look. 0.75

00:32:56.940 I say don't, because they are very sophisticated in how they try to manipulate people.

00:33:04.000 We know that strobe lights can throw people off with epilepsy.

00:33:07.960 Right.

00:33:08.200 And there are lights on these spacecrafts that flash off and on.

00:33:13.480 and I, who knows if that could be affecting you. Uh, certainly that clicking sound. I don't want

00:33:20.560 to take a chance. I don't know what's, what's subliminal beneath that. Uh, you know, I think 0.93

00:33:26.000 you can go, I watched it and, you know, I was just aware, as I said, I put my fingers over my ears

00:33:30.980 for the clicking sound. Cause I don't, I don't know what's coming across. I don't know what's

00:33:34.920 subliminal message might be in there, but I think you're okay. But I think just like I, I, I'm

00:33:41.300 probably going to write my next book will be how to analyze hollywood films and how writers

00:33:45.580 manipulate you to tell you what you don't believe uh but but but seriously i mean it's like literally

00:33:51.680 they use i i don't have time to go through it i could go through all the tricks that kepp

00:33:57.280 and spielberg use to get to subtly manipulate you to to their point of view um you know it's it's uh

00:34:07.540 i think it's okay to watch the film but i would just be very very careful be very careful when

00:34:12.660 you go in um you know i think you know that but but it's a very persuasive film as i said it's a

00:34:19.120 great propaganda buff piece um you know i mean it i mean they basically say aliens respect empathy

00:34:27.060 more than anything else and humans don't and i just read off to you things where there's no

00:34:32.200 respect for empathy of humans you know i mean it's just it's a flat-out lie uh yeah everything

00:34:38.800 derrick that you're telling me about the movie that there might be subliminal messages that it's

00:34:44.740 a very technically well done propaganda puff piece for aliens who are most likely actually

00:34:50.340 demons i don't know i'm probably not going to go see it i would much rather talk to derrick

00:34:54.040 warfell about it get the review and then maybe go out and get the book which you can all get right

00:34:59.020 now ufos and god revealing deception and truth behind the supernatural invisible war derrick

00:35:05.280 on barnes and noble and barnes and noble and you can go to my website ufosandgodbook.com

00:35:11.960 and uh you'll get a lot of information yeah absolutely you can go right to the source

00:35:15.900 350 pages i go in a lot of detail much much better use of your time i think than going

00:35:20.840 to disclosuremovie.com or whatever the website is derrick thank you very much for coming on the show

00:35:29.020 We'll see you next time.

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The Michael Knowles Show - June 13, 2026

Alien Expert Breaks Down Spielberg’s ＂Disclosure Day＂ Movie

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