The Michael Knowles Show - Anarchy, Demons, and Disney World

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00:00:30.800 Manifesting is astrology for straight guys.

00:00:35.920 Do you manifest?

00:00:37.980 Let's just give your answer.

00:00:39.040 One, two, three.

00:00:40.480 It's finally here.

00:00:59.000 A day that I have been waiting for

00:01:00.820 since this game premiered.

00:01:03.660 We have a very, very special guest.

00:01:05.940 Before we get to that, though,

00:01:07.120 you're a special guest,

00:01:08.740 and you sometimes have special guests

00:01:10.160 over to your home.

00:01:11.260 That's why you've got to get the yes or no game.

00:01:13.780 No.

00:01:14.140 The real game.

00:01:14.700 No.

00:01:15.000 What do you mean no?

00:01:16.400 It's Michael Malice, by the way.

00:01:17.700 Yeah, Michael Malice is our guest,

00:01:19.300 the author of The White Pill.

00:01:20.780 The game that you've got to buy,

00:01:22.560 despite what Michael tells you,

00:01:24.180 is the yes or no game.

00:01:25.160 You can have it.

00:01:25.780 You invite your friends over.

00:01:27.140 You can play it.

00:01:28.060 You can drink.

00:01:28.620 You don't need to drink.

00:01:29.420 Have a couple Coca-Colas.

00:01:30.420 Do whatever you want to do.

00:01:31.480 Answer all the pressing questions.

00:01:32.980 Questions about feminism.

00:01:35.160 Questions about seed oils.

00:01:36.920 Questions about the New World Order.

00:01:38.780 Questions about all of it.

00:01:40.440 Figure out how well you know

00:01:42.360 your friends and family.

00:01:43.560 The first round sold out immediately.

00:01:45.280 The second round is going to sell out immediately.

00:01:47.800 So pre-order it right now.

00:01:49.420 Dailywire.com slash shop.

00:01:52.220 While you're there,

00:01:53.880 pick up Mr. Malice's new book,

00:01:55.280 The White Pill.

00:01:55.820 Michael, thank you for coming on.

00:01:58.540 I am ecstatic to be here.

00:02:00.500 Now, are you familiar with the rules?

00:02:01.860 I am familiar with the rules.

00:02:03.180 I always let the ladies go first,

00:02:04.660 but now if it's just us fellas,

00:02:05.980 I'll go first.

00:02:08.140 Wow.

00:02:09.060 Producers coming.

00:02:09.800 You know, I haven't seen

00:02:10.440 any of these questions.

00:02:11.180 Okay.

00:02:12.080 Producers coming out strong.

00:02:14.700 True anarchy has never been tried.

00:02:18.020 True anarchy has never been tried.

00:02:19.640 So if I say no,

00:02:21.540 then it's like, no, it has been tried?

00:02:25.200 Correct.

00:02:25.740 Okay.

00:02:26.160 Okay.

00:02:26.360 And for you,

00:02:32.000 you would also say that.

00:02:34.520 Mr. Malice,

00:02:35.740 you have to drink.

00:02:38.100 Well, I have to drink mine.

00:02:39.240 You have to drink yours.

00:02:40.340 Yeah.

00:02:40.680 You have to drink your delicious...

00:02:41.800 But you got it right.

00:02:43.660 But I got it right for you.

00:02:44.780 Okay.

00:02:44.980 So you say it has been tried.

00:02:46.640 Where has anarchy been tried?

00:02:47.700 This is an anarchist relationship.

00:02:49.380 Anarchism is not a location,

00:02:50.640 it's a relationship.

00:02:51.460 It just means one person

00:02:52.400 is not in a position

00:02:53.140 to impose their authority on another.

00:02:54.860 So anarchism is the basis

00:02:56.160 of all peaceful relationships

00:02:57.400 in any society.

00:02:58.540 But within this society right now,

00:03:01.980 there are people

00:03:02.420 who can impose their will on us.

00:03:04.680 Sure.

00:03:04.960 Within this building.

00:03:06.060 I'm just speaking about our relationship.

00:03:07.800 So that is an example of true anarchism.

00:03:09.560 But doesn't anarchism require

00:03:11.740 more of a political structure?

00:03:14.620 By which I mean,

00:03:15.980 it doesn't exist in a vacuum.

00:03:17.700 So you might say that our relationship

00:03:19.860 does not involve any kind of coercion.

00:03:21.720 Right.

00:03:21.900 But our relationship exists

00:03:23.820 within the context of Nashville,

00:03:26.360 Tennessee, the United States.

00:03:27.880 The world.

00:03:28.500 The world.

00:03:29.060 Sure.

00:03:29.400 Which is not anarchistic.

00:03:31.540 Sure.

00:03:31.740 Which is quite not anarchistic.

00:03:33.320 Sure.

00:03:33.660 But at a certain point,

00:03:34.580 I think that's kind of this whole thing

00:03:36.220 about like if you have a gas stove,

00:03:37.920 you're causing global warming.

00:03:39.320 At a certain point,

00:03:40.120 the relationship is distinct enough

00:03:42.940 to be meaningless.

00:03:43.840 I mean, I guess the world courts,

00:03:45.840 in a sense,

00:03:46.540 have the power to have authority over us.

00:03:48.140 But in what practice...

00:03:48.540 Well, not in this country.

00:03:49.360 Well, I don't...

00:03:50.600 Not yet, at least.

00:03:51.500 Yeah.

00:03:52.720 So I think it just depends

00:03:54.020 on what your way is of looking at it.

00:03:55.540 And from my perspective,

00:03:56.560 I would say not only has anarchism been tried,

00:03:59.440 it is the basis of any successful interaction

00:04:01.740 in any society.

00:04:03.280 Do you think it's been tried

00:04:04.020 in a political context?

00:04:05.280 Like sometimes people point to Iceland.

00:04:06.840 Viking Age Iceland,

00:04:08.120 the Irish for centuries.

00:04:10.300 And every nation is in a state of anarchism

00:04:12.500 toward every other nation.

00:04:13.820 If an American kills a Canadian in Mexico,

00:04:16.220 there's no higher court to seek justice to.

00:04:20.360 You have to resolve it between themselves.

00:04:22.160 Well, there are...

00:04:23.360 But those nations have established courts

00:04:27.020 and international bodies,

00:04:28.620 which are mostly feckless,

00:04:30.080 like the UN or the International Criminal Court.

00:04:32.180 Sure.

00:04:32.780 But at least they have a...

00:04:34.080 They at least have the structure

00:04:35.940 of a kind of legal institution.

00:04:37.900 Sure.

00:04:38.160 Point being, though, again,

00:04:39.060 if an American kills a Canadian in Mexico,

00:04:40.760 they're not going to one of these institutions.

00:04:42.760 It's going to be resolved

00:04:43.440 between the three nations somehow.

00:04:44.920 That's true.

00:04:45.740 That's true.

00:04:46.200 Okay.

00:04:46.660 All right.

00:04:47.940 You guessed mine incorrectly,

00:04:49.860 so you have to drink your pina.

00:04:51.280 I guessed yours correctly,

00:04:52.500 so now you go.

00:04:53.200 Okay.

00:04:53.640 Okay.

00:04:59.400 I disagree with the use of quotes here.

00:05:03.880 I have the more fascist-looking haircut.

00:05:11.180 No, I've got to move yours.

00:05:12.280 Okay.

00:05:12.620 Ready, count to three.

00:05:13.460 One, two, three.

00:05:15.860 Three.

00:05:16.360 So I don't think it...

00:05:21.940 I think you got that wrong.

00:05:23.440 I think I'm sorry to say

00:05:25.300 you do have the more fascist-looking haircut.

00:05:27.640 I don't,

00:05:28.280 because if you look at the back,

00:05:29.560 it comes to a point,

00:05:30.660 which is not what fascists would have.

00:05:32.900 They would have it very clean.

00:05:34.440 That's true.

00:05:35.180 That's true.

00:05:35.640 It is...

00:05:36.440 It's got the fasciness of the...

00:05:38.700 It's longer on top,

00:05:39.920 kind of short on the side.

00:05:40.880 Right, but you do have that

00:05:41.740 kind of extremely conservative,

00:05:43.600 very primitive...

00:05:44.580 That is Hitler's haircut.

00:05:45.680 It's just not as long.

00:05:46.760 Yeah, but...

00:05:47.340 You have the side part.

00:05:48.220 It's a little long.

00:05:48.900 I got some sideburns.

00:05:50.300 I don't...

00:05:50.640 It's very hard for me

00:05:51.480 to grow the Charlie Chaplin.

00:05:52.700 You know, I can't quite do it.

00:05:54.400 But, hmm.

00:05:55.400 There's a band named Sparks,

00:05:56.740 which have been around

00:05:57.280 since the late 60s.

00:05:58.140 It's two brothers,

00:05:59.200 and one of them had

00:05:59.860 the German mustache for decades,

00:06:01.880 and he never explained why,

00:06:03.540 and this would drive people crazy,

00:06:05.140 and I...

00:06:05.740 That's a band everyone should look up

00:06:06.700 because they're amazing.

00:06:07.340 Michael Jordan had this.

00:06:08.480 Oh, yeah, for like a month.

00:06:09.980 Yeah.

00:06:10.180 He had a McDonald's commercial,

00:06:11.600 and everyone's like,

00:06:12.180 what are you doing?

00:06:12.980 I did call Daily Wire

00:06:13.960 over the break

00:06:16.280 between Christmas and New Year's.

00:06:17.420 I just didn't shave,

00:06:18.600 and so by the end,

00:06:19.500 I had this kind of scraggly,

00:06:20.660 ugly beard,

00:06:21.540 and I took a poll.

00:06:23.500 I said,

00:06:23.680 should I show up

00:06:24.340 with facial hair on Monday?

00:06:25.640 And, you know,

00:06:26.060 the PR department calls.

00:06:27.240 They say,

00:06:27.440 ha-ha, did you...

00:06:28.940 Are you sure?

00:06:29.520 Are you going to do that?

00:06:30.240 I said, no, no, no.

00:06:30.940 I'm not going to do that.

00:06:31.760 I'm just going to...

00:06:32.440 I'll shave it off.

00:06:33.480 I'm just going to keep a mustache.

00:06:34.780 What?

00:06:35.060 Is there a problem with that?

00:06:36.440 I don't know what problem

00:06:37.160 you see with that.

00:06:37.680 Okay.

00:06:37.820 Adults going to Disney World

00:06:40.600 without kids

00:06:41.580 should be illegal.

00:06:44.080 This is...

00:06:45.040 I'm answering for you.

00:06:45.840 You've got to answer

00:06:46.260 how you think I would answer.

00:06:47.240 Okay.

00:06:48.160 One, two, three.

00:06:49.480 Three.

00:06:51.100 I would definitely say no.

00:06:56.160 You know you'd say no.

00:06:57.320 I would have to say yes.

00:06:58.760 You would not make it illegal.

00:07:00.060 I would make it

00:07:00.860 a capital offense, actually.

00:07:02.520 No, you would not.

00:07:03.400 I would.

00:07:04.000 I would.

00:07:04.500 It's wrong.

00:07:06.180 It is wrong.

00:07:06.900 It's wrong.

00:07:07.360 I'm not arguing that it's not...

00:07:08.540 So we all agree

00:07:09.540 in the objective

00:07:10.540 kind of natural law

00:07:11.800 sort of perspective.

00:07:12.460 It is wrong for these adults

00:07:14.000 to show up

00:07:14.740 and get the turkey leg

00:07:15.800 and the ears.

00:07:16.220 In fact, I had a Twitter poll.

00:07:17.860 I said,

00:07:18.140 which is more of a red flag

00:07:19.320 in a female

00:07:19.820 if she's a Harley Quinn fan

00:07:21.060 or if she's a Disney fan?

00:07:22.300 Because those are both

00:07:23.320 big run for the hills

00:07:24.460 situations.

00:07:25.440 The Harley stuff,

00:07:26.040 she's wearing it on her sleeve.

00:07:27.320 The Disney,

00:07:27.860 it's kind of the subtext there.

00:07:29.860 This is not going to end well

00:07:30.900 for you with her delusions

00:07:31.860 of princesshood.

00:07:33.560 You're a princess?

00:07:34.340 Why are you dressing like that?

00:07:35.880 It doesn't add up.

00:07:37.360 No.

00:07:38.380 No, listen.

00:07:39.700 It's not that I'm

00:07:40.920 some kind of authoritarian

00:07:41.900 that I want to...

00:07:42.420 It is.

00:07:43.120 Literally, that's...

00:07:44.040 No, it's not.

00:07:44.380 But I'm not...

00:07:45.380 Hitler mustache says,

00:07:47.760 I'm not an authoritarian,

00:07:48.820 but...

00:07:49.260 Uh-huh.

00:07:50.540 He's a real liberal.

00:07:52.740 He's at least a modernist.

00:07:54.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:54.820 No, the problem is...

00:07:57.580 The art of Michael Knowles.

00:07:58.840 Certain offenses are serious enough,

00:08:01.680 I think,

00:08:01.980 that they require state intervention.

00:08:03.660 Some of those would be murder

00:08:04.920 or serious sexual crimes

00:08:07.320 or the grown-up millennials

00:08:11.260 just showing up

00:08:12.580 and going on the Dumbo ride.

00:08:14.840 Is there a Dumbo ride?

00:08:15.760 I assume.

00:08:16.860 I don't know.

00:08:17.000 I've never been to...

00:08:17.760 Maybe it's just because

00:08:18.620 I was never taken to Disneyland.

00:08:20.040 You know?

00:08:20.360 We're going to get a video crew,

00:08:21.500 Michael and Michael do Disneyland,

00:08:22.920 and it's going to...

00:08:23.600 And we're just going to sit there

00:08:24.580 bitching the whole time.

00:08:26.460 But at least we'll have to wait

00:08:27.320 on the lines

00:08:27.720 because we're important.

00:08:28.340 Say, Ben,

00:08:28.700 can I at least get the Fast Pass?

00:08:29.780 No.

00:08:30.340 The idea that you would get the Fast Pass

00:08:31.560 is frankly crazy.

00:08:32.360 Okay.

00:08:32.680 They said,

00:08:33.080 I'll be going to use

00:08:33.640 the Daily Wire resources.

00:08:35.080 Well, that's not the point.

00:08:37.200 Okay.

00:08:37.800 My turn?

00:08:38.320 Yes.

00:08:38.460 Okay.

00:08:44.840 Okay.

00:08:45.880 If the Liver King

00:08:46.840 taught us anything,

00:08:48.040 and he hasn't,

00:08:48.940 it's that if you tell a lie

00:08:50.900 long enough,

00:08:51.740 eventually you will get

00:08:52.800 the 2020 election results.

00:08:55.520 Okay.

00:08:55.980 Ready?

00:08:56.480 One, two, three.

00:08:58.700 Wait.

00:08:59.140 You put it on your side

00:09:00.120 of the board.

00:09:00.640 Hold on.

00:09:00.960 I meant yes.

00:09:01.520 I can't reach you.

00:09:03.820 Okay.

00:09:04.360 I'm a munchkin like you.

00:09:05.500 I'm going to say...

00:09:06.240 I'm going to say...

00:09:08.120 No.

00:09:09.760 If you tell a lie...

00:09:10.800 This is so many double negatives

00:09:12.240 I don't even understand.

00:09:13.140 But I do choose to drink.

00:09:14.420 Okay.

00:09:14.700 No, you have made

00:09:18.240 the more virtuous decision.

00:09:20.380 You don't drink.

00:09:21.340 I don't drink

00:09:22.080 because it makes me meaner.

00:09:25.760 I'm not joking.

00:09:26.620 I realized this the other day.

00:09:27.520 Some people,

00:09:27.940 sometimes they accuse us

00:09:28.920 of promoting booze

00:09:29.960 on the show.

00:09:30.460 And I actually don't intend

00:09:31.540 to promote booze on the show.

00:09:32.380 I do drink socially.

00:09:34.120 Of all my advices,

00:09:35.200 it's never been one

00:09:35.860 that I'm really drawn to.

00:09:37.080 Even to the point that

00:09:38.420 I'll have one drink

00:09:40.360 at the end of the night

00:09:41.020 maybe over a cigar.

00:09:42.560 And...

00:09:42.840 But it was...

00:09:44.060 I think it was messing up my sleep.

00:09:45.340 And I cut it out

00:09:45.940 for like a week.

00:09:46.760 And I slept much better.

00:09:48.360 I had more energy.

00:09:49.140 Even one single drink

00:09:50.700 at the end of the night.

00:09:51.280 It took me years

00:09:52.060 to realize

00:09:52.760 that my hangovers

00:09:54.040 take the form

00:09:54.840 of being depressed.

00:09:56.660 Because I'd feel

00:09:57.500 really down the next day

00:09:58.660 even from one beer.

00:09:59.840 And then I'd be like,

00:10:00.660 oh, you know those days

00:10:01.440 where you're like,

00:10:01.820 what am I doing?

00:10:02.560 Like everything sucks.

00:10:03.380 And you're like,

00:10:03.780 oh, this is physiological.

00:10:05.180 Yes.

00:10:05.540 And it took me a while

00:10:06.160 to figure out that that...

00:10:07.260 I didn't know

00:10:07.660 hangovers could do that.

00:10:08.520 I thought it would just

00:10:08.980 physically feel gross.

00:10:10.000 I know.

00:10:10.380 No, it actually

00:10:11.240 kind of rocked my world

00:10:12.460 because I really enjoy

00:10:13.380 the ritual

00:10:14.000 of a drink

00:10:14.980 at the end of the day.

00:10:15.840 I don't even...

00:10:16.200 It's not like I'm doing

00:10:16.720 keg stands, you know.

00:10:17.560 But I really like that ritual.

00:10:19.000 But if I can't...

00:10:20.440 Yeah, it's that same feeling.

00:10:21.420 Especially if I have, you know,

00:10:22.820 like three drinks or something

00:10:23.840 and then I have a headache

00:10:24.480 the next day.

00:10:25.120 Ruins your whole day.

00:10:26.020 That's why I recommend

00:10:27.100 angel dust

00:10:27.820 to all the kids

00:10:29.300 at Disneyland.

00:10:30.180 You want to go

00:10:30.740 on the Dumbo ride,

00:10:31.620 you don't even have

00:10:32.040 to wait in line.

00:10:33.540 It's just one puff away.

00:10:36.580 Life can be a circus

00:10:37.720 with angel dust.

00:10:40.460 Endorsed by Ben Shapiro.

00:10:41.620 We pitched the yes or no game,

00:10:44.400 the white pill

00:10:44.820 by Michael Malas,

00:10:45.620 and angel dust.

00:10:46.140 Yes.

00:10:46.540 Endorsed by Ben Shapiro.

00:10:47.620 Yes, yes.

00:10:48.340 And of the three,

00:10:49.460 angel dust is clearly

00:10:50.540 the best product

00:10:51.340 and I say this

00:10:52.140 as the author

00:10:52.680 of the white pill.

00:10:54.600 Why take a white pill

00:10:55.420 and you're going to

00:10:55.660 have white powder?

00:10:57.000 I can fly!

00:10:57.680 I can fly!

00:10:58.800 Angel dust needs to hire you

00:11:00.200 to do its PR.

00:11:00.800 I've never heard better PR.

00:11:02.860 Number three,

00:11:04.440 SPF is more likely

00:11:06.340 to face prison time.

00:11:08.000 Who's SPF?

00:11:08.880 He's that Sam Bankman-Fried,

00:11:11.380 the guy with the...

00:11:12.140 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:11:13.540 SPF is more likely

00:11:14.440 to face prison time

00:11:15.220 than Dr. Fauci.

00:11:17.300 One, two, three.

00:11:19.480 For sure.

00:11:20.180 He's probably not going

00:11:20.800 to face much prison time anyway,

00:11:22.120 but...

00:11:22.440 The possibility

00:11:23.360 of Fauci

00:11:24.140 facing prison time

00:11:26.000 to me

00:11:26.520 is like these people

00:11:27.480 who thought

00:11:28.040 Biden was going

00:11:29.180 to put Hillary

00:11:29.700 as the VP

00:11:30.260 and then step aside.

00:11:31.220 Like, it's these kind of...

00:11:32.620 Yeah.

00:11:33.360 There's one way

00:11:34.200 Bernie can still win.

00:11:35.640 There's still one weird trick.

00:11:37.460 Ron Paul's going to get

00:11:38.380 the nomination in 2012.

00:11:40.320 It is so crazy

00:11:41.460 because here's the thing.

00:11:43.400 If they wanted

00:11:44.000 to put Fauci away,

00:11:45.300 the dominoes,

00:11:46.540 it's not like you could

00:11:47.160 just put Fauci away

00:11:47.840 and everyone goes home.

00:11:48.840 Like, there's a lot of people

00:11:49.920 that led to that happening.

00:11:51.360 There's no...

00:11:51.840 Including Trump.

00:11:52.660 Right.

00:11:52.980 There's no way that happens.

00:11:54.400 There's what...

00:11:55.200 Wow.

00:11:56.040 Do people really think

00:11:56.540 that's going to happen?

00:11:57.480 Of course not.

00:11:58.060 I mean, there are people...

00:11:59.880 Hope springs eternal

00:12:00.580 in the human breast,

00:12:01.660 but this guy

00:12:03.220 has had a record

00:12:04.020 of incompetence

00:12:05.680 and corruption

00:12:06.420 going back to the 80s.

00:12:08.620 Going back to his

00:12:09.560 earliest years

00:12:10.260 at the NIH

00:12:11.220 and they haven't

00:12:13.340 gotten him for 40 years.

00:12:14.460 Right.

00:12:14.880 It's over.

00:12:15.700 But when's the last time

00:12:16.400 they've gotten

00:12:16.880 any bureaucrat

00:12:17.960 for malfeasance?

00:12:20.080 I don't think that...

00:12:20.740 Even Lois Lerner...

00:12:21.760 Lois Lerner deleted

00:12:22.940 or lost a bunch of emails

00:12:24.540 and then it's like,

00:12:26.140 well, she did

00:12:27.440 a good faith effort.

00:12:28.360 No, of course...

00:12:28.700 No, the only ones

00:12:29.620 I was thinking

00:12:30.060 maybe during Nixon,

00:12:31.260 but no, those were

00:12:31.900 appointed guys.

00:12:32.640 They weren't bureaucrats.

00:12:33.540 Yeah.

00:12:33.880 They never get the bureaucrats.

00:12:34.920 Right.

00:12:35.180 It's the safest job

00:12:36.060 you can possibly...

00:12:36.480 Of course.

00:12:42.680 The quotes are incorrect

00:12:43.900 on this.

00:12:45.220 The white pill

00:12:46.200 is basically just

00:12:47.400 the black pill

00:12:48.180 for quitters.

00:12:52.280 This is like

00:12:53.120 Mr. Miyagi.

00:12:53.780 Mr. Miyagi stuff.

00:12:54.980 Excuse me.

00:12:55.480 Pardon my French.

00:12:56.760 What is...

00:12:57.160 Who writes these riddles?

00:12:58.960 Buddha, I think.

00:12:59.800 Yeah.

00:13:00.220 Siddhartha Gautama

00:13:01.140 actually wrote them.

00:13:01.760 Okay.

00:13:02.200 Ready?

00:13:02.440 The white pill

00:13:03.920 is basically

00:13:04.520 just the black pill

00:13:05.380 for quitters.

00:13:08.020 One, two, three.

00:13:11.280 I'm going to...

00:13:12.400 No.

00:13:12.980 I'm going to say

00:13:13.580 the answer is yes,

00:13:14.860 only in as much as

00:13:16.260 the thing that you're quitting

00:13:17.400 is despair.

00:13:19.280 That's a good thing to quit.

00:13:20.440 You're not quitting it

00:13:21.880 if you are renouncing it.

00:13:23.600 That's not the same thing.

00:13:25.220 What's the difference?

00:13:27.020 You're a Catholic,

00:13:27.940 aren't you?

00:13:28.400 A renunciation

00:13:29.080 is an act of repudiation

00:13:32.520 and an act of ownership

00:13:34.240 and an act of like,

00:13:35.360 I believe in this.

00:13:36.340 This is what I am.

00:13:37.380 Quitting, to me,

00:13:38.720 has such a connotation

00:13:39.780 of giving up.

00:13:41.080 Right.

00:13:41.560 You're saying

00:13:42.100 quitting intrinsically

00:13:43.340 has a kind of despair to it.

00:13:44.780 Yes.

00:13:45.220 But what if you quit

00:13:46.580 angel dust, for instance?

00:13:48.840 You don't quit angel dust.

00:13:50.220 You go on vacation

00:13:51.200 from angel dust.

00:13:52.840 That's...

00:13:53.220 You don't ever...

00:13:54.200 Michael, why would you want to?

00:13:55.720 Don't you want to fly?

00:13:58.520 Kids, I'm telling you.

00:14:01.520 It's much better

00:14:02.360 than watching this garbage.

00:14:05.280 I can't...

00:14:05.700 Michael, I can't argue with that.

00:14:06.980 Yeah.

00:14:07.260 I can't.

00:14:07.660 I have no...

00:14:08.060 Okay, fair point.

00:14:08.800 I'm going to keep this card

00:14:09.980 in perpetuity

00:14:10.620 because it's one of the best

00:14:11.600 things I've ever seen.

00:14:13.780 Okay.

00:14:14.940 The weird satanic ritual stuff

00:14:17.000 at Bohemian Grove

00:14:17.960 on Balenciaga Shoots

00:14:19.580 and at the CERN,

00:14:21.520 a large Hadron Collider,

00:14:23.060 is far more about

00:14:24.280 being an edgelord

00:14:25.580 than worshipping evil.

00:14:28.800 Okay.

00:14:31.180 One, two, three.

00:14:34.220 Yeah, we're in agreement.

00:14:35.080 For sure.

00:14:35.460 They're not trying

00:14:36.040 to be edgelords.

00:14:36.900 They're trying to

00:14:38.380 be defiant

00:14:40.500 and there's a lot

00:14:41.560 of genuine evil

00:14:43.200 at these places

00:14:44.540 and I think

00:14:45.660 the whole line

00:14:46.800 about the greatest trick

00:14:47.980 the devil ever did

00:14:48.640 was to commit to people

00:14:49.180 that doesn't exist.

00:14:50.240 These people get off

00:14:51.420 on committing evil

00:14:53.200 in public

00:14:54.360 and brazenly so.

00:14:55.260 Right, right.

00:14:55.920 And it's not just...

00:14:56.600 Being an edgelord

00:14:57.380 is you're harmless.

00:14:58.320 They're actually harming people.

00:14:59.400 They're actually harming people

00:15:00.140 and it can't be...

00:15:02.000 You can't worship the devil

00:15:04.140 ironically forever.

00:15:06.540 Right.

00:15:06.940 Or really ever at all.

00:15:08.180 Like you can't...

00:15:09.300 People seem to think

00:15:10.180 they're just like,

00:15:10.600 oh no, tee-hee-hee.

00:15:12.020 No, I'm going to do

00:15:12.680 these weird satanic rituals

00:15:13.940 and commit all sorts

00:15:14.820 of acts of evil.

00:15:15.480 But it's really...

00:15:16.140 It's actually ironic.

00:15:17.600 You think, well,

00:15:18.000 if you live your life

00:15:19.100 ironically,

00:15:20.360 then it's earnest,

00:15:21.380 actually.

00:15:21.840 But it's also,

00:15:22.740 at a certain point,

00:15:23.560 you're not going to get

00:15:24.560 enough of that buzz

00:15:25.320 by listening to

00:15:25.840 Marilyn Manson, right?

00:15:26.640 You're going to actually

00:15:27.120 want to start doing things

00:15:28.400 that actually impact

00:15:29.400 other people

00:15:29.980 and start doing harm

00:15:32.000 or at least being ignorant

00:15:34.860 or choosing not to do good

00:15:36.480 and letting harm happen.

00:15:37.500 I don't think I've told

00:15:39.440 this story on air before.

00:15:40.480 It's one of the most

00:15:41.780 jarring stories I've ever heard.

00:15:43.460 I'll give you the broad scope

00:15:44.620 because it's horrifying.

00:15:46.600 There was a guy

00:15:47.120 that I knew freshman year.

00:15:48.440 I totally lost touch

00:15:49.300 with him in college.

00:15:50.480 But I find out later

00:15:52.040 the guy gets arrested

00:15:53.100 for very serious crimes.

00:15:56.380 Leave it at that.

00:15:57.080 Very, very serious crimes.

00:15:58.520 And he reached out to me.

00:16:00.680 I hadn't talked to this guy

00:16:01.340 in years.

00:16:02.120 We weren't even

00:16:02.820 that tight in college.

00:16:04.420 And so he said,

00:16:06.220 oh, well,

00:16:06.700 he said, can I call you

00:16:07.840 and explain what happened?

00:16:08.700 I said, okay, sure, whatever.

00:16:10.500 And so he calls me

00:16:11.860 and he says, yeah,

00:16:13.360 first I got involved in this.

00:16:14.820 First I got involved

00:16:15.640 in some weird sex stuff.

00:16:16.680 Then I got involved in drugs.

00:16:17.860 Then I got involved

00:16:18.520 in this kind of ring.

00:16:20.660 And then I got involved

00:16:21.560 with these older people.

00:16:22.940 And then I got involved

00:16:23.600 with these rich guys.

00:16:24.780 And then before you knew it,

00:16:25.960 we were doing satanic rituals

00:16:27.740 in different countries.

00:16:29.180 And then now I'm in prison.

00:16:31.840 And I said, you know,

00:16:32.940 the part that people

00:16:34.060 aren't going to understand

00:16:35.120 about that,

00:16:36.180 it's not the drug stuff.

00:16:37.200 It's not the sex stuff.

00:16:38.140 It's not the rich people stuff.

00:16:39.140 That's all kind of

00:16:39.860 part of this world, right?

00:16:42.320 It's the fact that

00:16:43.300 it always has the same

00:16:46.100 kind of symbolism to it.

00:16:47.840 For whatever reason,

00:16:49.020 it always goes back

00:16:50.040 to like some guy with horns

00:16:51.440 and a pitchfork and fire.

00:16:53.620 And isn't there something to it?

00:16:55.680 The fact that all these elites

00:16:57.120 are performing

00:16:57.820 actual overt satanic rituals,

00:17:00.460 isn't that kind of weird

00:17:01.100 that they keep doing that?

00:17:02.880 I don't know if weird's the word.

00:17:04.640 It's natural, I guess.

00:17:05.720 Well, I am going to tie this

00:17:06.980 back to my book

00:17:07.740 because I think it's germane.

00:17:09.840 One of the reasons

00:17:10.420 I wrote The White Pill

00:17:11.420 is, and it's about

00:17:12.940 the rise of the Soviet Union

00:17:14.120 and the fall of the Soviet Union,

00:17:15.840 is because I was on

00:17:17.380 a conservative podcast

00:17:18.640 and they were talking about

00:17:19.240 how Biden's a communist.

00:17:20.800 I'm like,

00:17:21.020 do you even know

00:17:21.280 what communism is?

00:17:22.060 Right.

00:17:22.240 And Americans are

00:17:23.840 completely oblivious

00:17:25.480 to how evil

00:17:26.760 people and governments

00:17:28.520 can be.

00:17:29.240 They think it's,

00:17:30.540 oh, you have to have

00:17:31.700 woke ideology in school

00:17:33.080 and have 70% interest rate.

00:17:35.660 No, they,

00:17:36.880 you have to,

00:17:37.560 your kids have to get up

00:17:38.600 in school and denounce you.

00:17:39.920 Your kids are taught

00:17:41.120 in kindergarten

00:17:41.800 to turn you in

00:17:43.300 even if your parents kill you

00:17:44.660 because the most moral thing

00:17:45.880 you can do

00:17:46.500 is to report your parents

00:17:48.100 if they're,

00:17:48.580 like, hoarding grain.

00:17:50.400 So they would encourage

00:17:51.960 priests to denounce God

00:17:53.660 from the pulpit

00:17:54.340 in order to,

00:17:55.520 you know,

00:17:55.960 betray the people

00:17:56.900 in the congregation.

00:17:58.560 So, you know,

00:17:59.940 when people think about

00:18:00.760 evil in this country

00:18:01.600 and they think,

00:18:02.860 oh, you know,

00:18:03.500 we're two years away

00:18:04.260 from Biden destroying America,

00:18:05.420 I'm like,

00:18:05.720 do you know what

00:18:06.200 a destroyed country,

00:18:07.100 they don't.

00:18:07.720 You don't get,

00:18:08.560 you don't get how far

00:18:09.600 this goes.

00:18:10.260 Yeah, right, yeah.

00:18:11.360 And as bad as you think

00:18:12.600 it is,

00:18:12.860 the basement has a cellar.

00:18:13.960 And when I found

00:18:14.520 all these receipts,

00:18:15.320 because even I didn't know

00:18:16.340 half this stuff,

00:18:17.200 the things that they

00:18:18.700 feel comfortable doing

00:18:19.640 to families and to kids

00:18:20.960 is so much worse than,

00:18:23.460 because evil often

00:18:25.160 is creative.

00:18:25.880 That's the thing

00:18:26.420 I think people

00:18:27.020 don't appreciate.

00:18:27.860 Like, even people

00:18:28.340 think of, like,

00:18:28.780 the devil.

00:18:29.120 The devil's smart.

00:18:30.020 The devil's beautiful.

00:18:30.720 Imaginative, right.

00:18:31.420 Right.

00:18:32.160 And, you know,

00:18:33.040 if you and I sat down

00:18:34.120 and tried to think

00:18:35.420 of tortures,

00:18:36.100 the things that they did,

00:18:37.520 it would never

00:18:38.160 enter our heads.

00:18:38.960 Right, right.

00:18:40.020 Yeah, this is the,

00:18:43.060 a Satanist

00:18:43.960 wrote in to me once,

00:18:44.720 like an open Satanist,

00:18:46.000 and said,

00:18:46.280 Michael, I want to come on,

00:18:47.200 and I'm not a big lib,

00:18:48.240 you know,

00:18:48.360 I'm just a Satanist,

00:18:49.280 and I want to come on

00:18:50.180 and debate these things.

00:18:51.560 And I thought,

00:18:52.280 I don't know

00:18:52.760 if I want to platform

00:18:53.660 an actual Satanist.

00:18:55.580 And I wrote to a priest

00:18:56.840 friend of mine

00:18:57.340 who's very urbane,

00:18:59.840 very funny,

00:19:02.660 serious,

00:19:03.080 intellectual guy,

00:19:03.800 and gets a kick out

00:19:04.460 of all sorts of eccentricities.

00:19:06.020 And I said,

00:19:06.660 what do you think about this?

00:19:07.300 He goes,

00:19:09.480 watch out,

00:19:10.080 the devil's very crafty.

00:19:11.220 Yeah.

00:19:11.700 And don't think

00:19:12.920 this is just some light.

00:19:13.960 He said,

00:19:14.240 I wouldn't do that.

00:19:15.180 Yeah.

00:19:15.580 And I'd appreciate

00:19:16.280 you not repeating

00:19:16.940 my communications

00:19:17.600 with you publicly.

00:19:18.440 And please,

00:19:19.060 yeah,

00:19:19.360 that's right.

00:19:20.320 Keep that to yourself.

00:19:20.960 Now I just kind of

00:19:21.560 want to name

00:19:22.020 some of the priests

00:19:22.580 I don't like.

00:19:23.500 And that priest's name was.

00:19:25.400 Yep.

00:19:26.020 Okay.

00:19:26.380 Well,

00:19:26.560 I'm going to drink anyway.

00:19:27.440 Okay.

00:19:27.780 I think that's the rule,

00:19:28.760 is it?

00:19:28.980 No,

00:19:29.160 I don't know.

00:19:29.400 Sure.

00:19:29.560 Okay.

00:19:33.180 I'm often suspicious

00:19:34.740 of people

00:19:35.600 who don't drink.

00:19:38.560 Hmm.

00:19:39.720 Ready?

00:19:41.120 Often.

00:19:42.160 One,

00:19:43.140 two,

00:19:44.300 three.

00:19:46.800 I would say,

00:19:47.440 no.

00:19:47.800 No.

00:19:48.400 No,

00:19:48.800 I'm...

00:19:49.140 I'm often suspicious

00:19:50.360 of people who don't like dogs

00:19:51.360 or don't like music.

00:19:52.420 Yeah.

00:19:53.040 Those are the two

00:19:53.700 where I'm like,

00:19:54.180 okay,

00:19:54.580 unless they're on the spectrum,

00:19:55.800 something's really dangerous here.

00:19:57.240 It's not that I don't,

00:19:57.940 it's not that I dislike dogs.

00:20:01.200 But I don't,

00:20:02.740 I'm not that into dogs.

00:20:03.820 Okay.

00:20:04.160 Like people,

00:20:04.820 you know,

00:20:05.040 they're like a,

00:20:05.540 they love chasing a dog around.

00:20:07.580 I think we found the Satanist.

00:20:08.640 We found,

00:20:09.400 he's sitting at the table.

00:20:11.320 Yes.

00:20:11.940 I just think of myself

00:20:13.180 as a people person.

00:20:15.200 You know,

00:20:15.420 so some people say,

00:20:16.100 are you a cat person?

00:20:16.180 Dogs are the best people on earth.

00:20:17.820 They.

00:20:18.580 I'm not kidding.

00:20:19.660 They're definitely more pleasant

00:20:20.940 than many people.

00:20:21.260 Yeah,

00:20:21.480 how can you not be a dog person?

00:20:22.960 All they want to do

00:20:23.540 is be your friend and help you.

00:20:24.700 Do you know what?

00:20:25.100 The reason I can't get that into dogs

00:20:27.220 is they can never become reasonable.

00:20:32.240 Like a baby.

00:20:33.340 I can,

00:20:33.860 I can kind of get into playing with a baby.

00:20:35.740 You're thinking of women.

00:20:36.220 We're talking about dogs.

00:20:39.460 Take away reason and accountability.

00:20:41.200 There you go.

00:20:42.560 Yeah.

00:20:43.560 But hold on.

00:20:44.380 Wait,

00:20:44.460 what was the actual question about?

00:20:45.880 Oh,

00:20:46.340 drinking.

00:20:47.220 Oh,

00:20:47.280 yeah.

00:20:47.440 No,

00:20:48.000 I am somewhat skeptical of people

00:20:50.420 who have never had a drink

00:20:52.740 because they were told that,

00:20:56.740 you know,

00:20:57.160 the drink is just the devil

00:20:58.180 and,

00:20:58.760 you know,

00:20:59.000 there's no.

00:20:59.480 Well,

00:20:59.500 what if they have alcoholism in their family

00:21:00.940 and they don't want to get down

00:21:01.600 a slippery slope?

00:21:02.240 That I can understand.

00:21:02.880 That I get it.

00:21:03.240 I can admire.

00:21:04.240 And guys who.

00:21:05.300 Penn Jillette's never had a drink

00:21:06.460 and now look at him.

00:21:07.340 Really?

00:21:07.960 Yeah.

00:21:08.280 Wow,

00:21:08.560 that's the greatest argument

00:21:09.460 for drinking.

00:21:09.940 People who have

00:21:14.160 kind of been through it,

00:21:16.160 you know,

00:21:16.360 who have experienced booze

00:21:18.160 and said,

00:21:18.580 you know,

00:21:18.760 this isn't for me.

00:21:20.220 Far from being skeptical

00:21:21.320 of those people,

00:21:21.860 I sort of think,

00:21:22.320 oh,

00:21:22.400 this is someone who gets it.

00:21:23.560 Because,

00:21:23.900 you know,

00:21:24.180 the flip side of it,

00:21:24.960 I mean,

00:21:25.160 there are guys I know

00:21:26.200 who just never got over age 23.

00:21:29.980 It just,

00:21:30.440 and,

00:21:30.620 you know,

00:21:32.280 it doesn't,

00:21:32.880 going out to the bars all night

00:21:34.200 does not play as well

00:21:36.180 when you're in your 50s

00:21:37.560 as when you're in your 20s.

00:21:39.940 I interviewed Tucker Max

00:21:41.280 on my show.

00:21:41.940 He wrote the book,

00:21:42.800 I Hope They Served You Are in Hell.

00:21:43.860 A classic.

00:21:44.380 I'll finish first.

00:21:45.500 And he's like,

00:21:45.900 I meet these adults

00:21:46.780 who are like,

00:21:47.340 dude,

00:21:47.500 I'm such a fan of yours.

00:21:48.320 He's like,

00:21:48.940 yeah,

00:21:49.180 this is okay when you're 23.

00:21:50.460 What is wrong with you?

00:21:51.140 Grow up.

00:21:51.740 I'm married with kids

00:21:52.720 and I love it.

00:21:53.500 That's what life's about.

00:21:54.680 Like,

00:21:54.840 yeah,

00:21:55.000 I get it.

00:21:55.500 Like,

00:21:55.760 get drunk,

00:21:56.380 be a frat boy,

00:21:57.060 you know,

00:21:57.300 fool around,

00:21:57.920 but dude,

00:21:58.860 you're 30.

00:21:59.980 When I was into Tucker Max,

00:22:01.180 I was 17,

00:22:03.480 I think.

00:22:03.720 Yeah.

00:22:04.060 That was kind of the audience.

00:22:05.740 Wow,

00:22:05.860 that's great.

00:22:07.060 He's a great guy.

00:22:07.900 He's in Austin as well.

00:22:09.000 That's edifying to hear that he...

00:22:11.520 Yeah,

00:22:11.740 he wrote a book called Nate

00:22:12.520 and it's all about finding a good,

00:22:14.200 his wife's awesome,

00:22:15.120 his kids are awesome.

00:22:16.280 Wow.

00:22:17.760 Wow,

00:22:18.240 that's good.

00:22:19.440 That's a happy ending for him.

00:22:20.560 Yeah.

00:22:21.280 All right.

00:22:22.440 Between eating bugs,

00:22:23.500 living in pods,

00:22:24.500 owning nothing,

00:22:25.260 and drinking from paper straws,

00:22:27.120 getting people to eat bugs

00:22:28.540 will be the most difficult thing

00:22:30.100 to get people on board

00:22:31.280 for the New World Order.

00:22:32.600 Between eating bugs,

00:22:35.740 living in pods,

00:22:36.440 owning nothing,

00:22:37.180 and drinking from straws.

00:22:39.200 One,

00:22:39.720 two,

00:22:40.260 three.

00:22:41.160 Eating bugs is very easy

00:22:42.360 to get people to do.

00:22:43.020 So easy.

00:22:43.540 It's already happening.

00:22:44.280 Shrimp or bugs?

00:22:45.140 Shrimp seem like bugs,

00:22:46.460 lobsters.

00:22:46.980 Cricket flower.

00:22:48.060 The cricket flower stuff

00:22:48.960 is already in chips.

00:22:49.980 Yeah,

00:22:50.400 it's fine.

00:22:51.080 It's not going to be hard at all.

00:22:52.520 And I've tried bugs

00:22:53.540 and they're fine.

00:22:55.340 I tried a bug once.

00:22:57.240 I thought it was gross.

00:22:58.180 The powder,

00:22:59.220 you can kind of just

00:23:00.000 divorce from your mind.

00:23:00.840 the legs.

00:23:03.540 Well,

00:23:03.700 yeah,

00:23:03.880 that's an antennae.

00:23:04.760 That's the issue.

00:23:05.400 But you're not going

00:23:05.760 to serve them whole.

00:23:07.240 Yeah,

00:23:07.540 I hope not.

00:23:08.140 Yeah,

00:23:08.320 you're right.

00:23:08.660 They'll just grind them up.

00:23:09.580 They'll put them in potato chips.

00:23:10.860 I am,

00:23:11.380 oh my God,

00:23:11.940 I'm about to reveal a story

00:23:13.140 I haven't told anyone.

00:23:15.060 I am so,

00:23:16.680 such an animal person,

00:23:20.500 and I know a lot about zoology.

00:23:22.100 There was a company

00:23:23.040 called either Cricket

00:23:24.800 or Grasshopper.

00:23:25.480 I know there's a company

00:23:25.940 called Cricket.

00:23:26.420 I think it was Cricket,

00:23:27.120 but I want to get it.

00:23:27.700 No,

00:23:27.840 it was called Grasshopper.

00:23:28.700 And they were launching

00:23:29.860 like cell phones or something.

00:23:31.340 Yeah.

00:23:31.740 And they were having

00:23:32.480 chocolate-covered grasshoppers

00:23:34.280 to promote it.

00:23:35.880 But they weren't grasshoppers.

00:23:37.160 They were crickets.

00:23:37.760 And they're not the same thing.

00:23:38.960 And I reached out to them

00:23:40.080 and they tried to be like,

00:23:41.120 oh,

00:23:41.320 they are grasshoppers.

00:23:42.440 And I went down that rabbit hole

00:23:43.860 and go,

00:23:44.100 here are the differences.

00:23:45.140 Not the same animal.

00:23:46.600 Yeah.

00:23:46.740 And I think they're out of business now

00:23:48.380 and they belong in hell.

00:23:49.740 Rightly so.

00:23:50.520 Rightly so.

00:23:50.960 They're fraud.

00:23:51.520 Your entire identity is a fraud.

00:23:52.600 It's a total fraud.

00:23:53.040 Also,

00:23:54.260 grasshoppers,

00:23:55.620 according to the Bible,

00:23:56.600 you're allowed to eat.

00:23:57.300 Well,

00:23:57.540 some.

00:23:57.940 Some species.

00:23:58.540 Some species of grasshopper.

00:23:59.180 Okay,

00:23:59.420 if you want to go full-bent Shapiro,

00:24:00.840 I went to yeshiva.

00:24:02.140 There are some species of grasshopper

00:24:03.980 that are kosher,

00:24:04.840 but they don't know

00:24:06.240 what those species are referring to

00:24:08.020 in contemporary times.

00:24:09.300 So for the sake of playing it safe,

00:24:11.960 you shouldn't eat any.

00:24:12.840 That's actually the fact of kosher.

00:24:14.280 Because I was just asking

00:24:15.720 an Orthodox Jewish friend of mine

00:24:18.120 this earlier today.

00:24:19.460 I said,

00:24:19.840 when, you know,

00:24:20.180 Klaus Schwab makes us all eatsy bugs,

00:24:22.160 surely we can,

00:24:23.220 the ones that the Jews

00:24:24.120 will be allowed to eat

00:24:24.720 are locusts

00:24:26.000 and some grasshoppers, right?

00:24:28.880 But he didn't know the answer.

00:24:30.280 That's the answer.

00:24:31.000 Wow.

00:24:31.260 We don't know which ones they were,

00:24:32.140 because they'll say,

00:24:32.660 like,

00:24:32.760 the white grasshopper,

00:24:33.740 we don't know what that corresponds to.

00:24:35.020 Right.

00:24:35.420 Wow.

00:24:35.840 So to play it safe,

00:24:36.900 don't go along

00:24:38.840 with the World Economic Forum.

00:24:40.080 Yeah.

00:24:40.360 No,

00:24:40.580 the hardest one for people

00:24:42.340 of that list

00:24:43.040 is going to be

00:24:43.880 giving up all their property.

00:24:45.280 No,

00:24:45.480 that's going to be the easiest.

00:24:46.540 You think?

00:24:47.120 Yes,

00:24:47.460 because there's lots of people already

00:24:48.940 who basically,

00:24:50.000 if you have a government home,

00:24:52.040 government food,

00:24:52.760 government car,

00:24:53.820 technically the government

00:24:54.600 owns everything

00:24:55.320 but provides things for you,

00:24:56.480 they'll be fine with it.

00:24:57.340 But don't,

00:24:57.940 even these people

00:24:58.760 who are on

00:24:59.520 total government assistance,

00:25:00.700 Right.

00:25:01.260 they go out,

00:25:01.800 they buy their TV

00:25:03.380 or whatever,

00:25:04.160 they get their phone.

00:25:05.920 Maybe they've bought it

00:25:06.880 with government coupons,

00:25:08.000 but they at least think of that

00:25:09.220 as being their own possession.

00:25:10.360 Even if the repo man

00:25:11.720 could show up tomorrow.

00:25:12.500 Sure,

00:25:12.860 but in this situation,

00:25:15.200 if the difference is

00:25:15.840 they don't legally own it,

00:25:16.960 what would they care?

00:25:18.560 You don't think

00:25:19.060 if the repo guy showed up

00:25:20.020 they'd be very upset

00:25:20.860 if he's taken out their TV?

00:25:22.680 They would,

00:25:23.320 but what recourse

00:25:24.540 would they have?

00:25:25.020 Right,

00:25:25.340 right,

00:25:25.680 that's true.

00:25:26.160 I just wonder if they...

00:25:27.060 Like the Obama phone,

00:25:27.820 no one's taking those Obama phones,

00:25:29.060 right?

00:25:29.180 No,

00:25:29.500 no,

00:25:29.700 they're going to keep

00:25:30.200 giving those out.

00:25:31.340 But in terms of

00:25:33.160 the convincing people,

00:25:35.040 I agree with you.

00:25:35.900 They could,

00:25:36.560 Klaus Schwab can convince people

00:25:37.780 to eat bugs.

00:25:38.360 It'll just happen.

00:25:39.260 The pods is going to be hard.

00:25:40.460 The pods,

00:25:41.160 I don't know,

00:25:41.600 people move to New York City

00:25:42.540 every year.

00:25:43.260 My first apartment in New York,

00:25:44.740 my bedroom was 70 square feet.

00:25:47.740 It had three real walls,

00:25:49.340 one fake wall,

00:25:50.000 and no windows.

00:25:50.700 But I think people

00:25:51.420 who are poor

00:25:52.020 have a sense,

00:25:53.540 government housing,

00:25:54.740 do have some sense

00:25:55.460 of entitlement

00:25:56.000 to at least something

00:25:57.440 to get them

00:25:58.260 to downgrade to a pod.

00:25:59.860 That's going to be

00:26:00.400 really,

00:26:00.820 really hard.

00:26:01.240 And the wealthy people,

00:26:02.080 like people who talk

00:26:02.780 about global warming

00:26:03.300 with their own private jets,

00:26:04.200 they're not going to be in a pod.

00:26:05.280 Well,

00:26:05.380 yeah,

00:26:05.960 the pods are not for them.

00:26:06.860 Yes.

00:26:07.240 The pods and the bugs,

00:26:08.620 it's only for the poor people.

00:26:09.720 Yeah.

00:26:10.080 Yeah.

00:26:11.040 But I just wonder

00:26:12.040 if people have

00:26:12.780 a natural inclination

00:26:15.540 that property

00:26:16.920 is a good thing.

00:26:18.840 I don't think they do.

00:26:19.880 You don't think so?

00:26:20.880 But to some extent,

00:26:21.840 like dogs do,

00:26:22.460 right?

00:26:22.860 Yeah.

00:26:23.040 That's kind of what I mean.

00:26:24.380 Dogs have territory.

00:26:24.480 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:25.160 But again,

00:26:26.340 owning,

00:26:26.940 and there's the whole

00:26:27.880 left-wing anarchist version

00:26:29.340 of there's private property

00:26:31.420 and personal property.

00:26:32.660 So technically,

00:26:33.640 the TV's the government.

00:26:34.520 You know,

00:26:35.100 weren't telephones

00:26:35.800 when we were young,

00:26:37.220 weren't they the government's

00:26:37.900 property technically?

00:26:38.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:39.100 Or of the utility.

00:26:40.180 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:41.040 That's true.

00:26:41.560 That's true.

00:26:41.940 That's the future.

00:26:42.580 The future is

00:26:43.180 bell-Atlantic.

00:26:44.120 Yeah.

00:26:44.800 Okay,

00:26:45.260 well,

00:26:45.360 I'm going to drink anyway.

00:26:46.280 Let's do it.

00:26:49.980 You're up.

00:26:50.820 If only this drink

00:26:51.560 were as sweet as you.

00:26:52.420 No,

00:26:52.680 stop.

00:26:53.320 Get out of here.

00:26:55.180 You're going to make me blush.

00:26:56.060 Okay,

00:26:56.380 so this person stole my look.

00:26:58.780 They dyed their hair.

00:26:59.900 They put on the white suit.

00:27:01.440 I would at least consider

00:27:02.860 voting for Tulsi Thicke

00:27:04.320 in 2024.

00:27:07.620 Tulsi Thicke,

00:27:08.560 you said.

00:27:08.780 Yeah.

00:27:10.200 From Hawaii.

00:27:12.300 What?

00:27:12.680 Okay.

00:27:14.040 So.

00:27:14.780 Would you not?

00:27:15.340 You would not consider voting?

00:27:16.080 I don't believe in voting

00:27:16.860 under any circumstances.

00:27:18.040 Okay,

00:27:18.660 all right.

00:27:18.920 So that's the wrong.

00:27:19.980 You're right.

00:27:20.500 No,

00:27:20.680 you're right.

00:27:20.940 You would consider voting for her.

00:27:22.220 I would consider it.

00:27:22.880 Of course you would.

00:27:23.360 I would consider it.

00:27:24.060 I wouldn't be inclined to.

00:27:25.920 You'd consider it.

00:27:27.260 If she's against Biden,

00:27:28.300 you'd do it in two seconds.

00:27:29.640 Yeah.

00:27:30.880 But I would,

00:27:31.480 even among Republicans,

00:27:32.800 I might consider.

00:27:33.780 Oh,

00:27:33.940 yeah.

00:27:34.160 If it was her versus like Liz Cheney?

00:27:35.900 Yes.

00:27:36.460 Yeah.

00:27:36.980 That would be hard.

00:27:37.540 I think she gets it more

00:27:38.900 than a Liz Cheney gets it.

00:27:40.880 And even if you look

00:27:41.860 at their voting record

00:27:42.560 and you say,

00:27:42.920 well,

00:27:43.060 Liz Cheney on these specific issues

00:27:44.800 voted more conservative.

00:27:45.860 I just think,

00:27:46.420 yeah,

00:27:46.640 but on all,

00:27:47.900 every time where her vote mattered,

00:27:50.560 she sided with the Libs.

00:27:51.920 And with Tulsi,

00:27:53.000 it's kind of the opposite.

00:27:53.880 Every time her vote

00:27:54.560 was really crucial

00:27:55.280 or her voice was really crucial,

00:27:56.700 she kind of broke out

00:27:57.700 of the matrix a little bit.

00:27:59.200 You don't,

00:28:00.380 you can't say

00:28:01.240 that you are a principled person

00:28:02.840 and be against gay marriage

00:28:04.640 when you have a gay sister,

00:28:05.660 when your dad,

00:28:06.220 who's an old man,

00:28:06.820 is for it,

00:28:07.480 and then later be like,

00:28:08.400 oh,

00:28:08.740 oh,

00:28:09.000 no,

00:28:09.220 wait,

00:28:09.540 gay marriage is great.

00:28:10.520 Like,

00:28:10.780 you're a phony.

00:28:12.080 She's a phony.

00:28:13.120 And she's also,

00:28:14.080 fun fact,

00:28:14.520 was the model

00:28:15.220 for Jim Henson's Miss Piggy.

00:28:19.500 Look at the,

00:28:20.240 they're literally identical.

00:28:21.020 I have not.

00:28:22.400 It's true.

00:28:23.000 Yes.

00:28:23.360 I'll look into that

00:28:23.960 and look afterward.

00:28:26.580 Okay,

00:28:27.180 I'm up.

00:28:28.320 I have no idea

00:28:28.980 what the score is

00:28:29.500 and I don't care.

00:28:30.020 No,

00:28:30.360 no one does.

00:28:31.060 No one does.

00:28:31.500 Yes.

00:28:31.980 No one ever does.

00:28:32.660 This is the thing.

00:28:34.080 Being agnostic

00:28:35.280 is the non-committal version

00:28:37.880 of the new atheist movement.

00:28:44.880 One,

00:28:45.540 two,

00:28:46.320 three.

00:28:48.800 I would actually say

00:28:50.540 no.

00:28:52.220 Okay.

00:28:52.620 I think there is

00:28:53.620 no such thing

00:28:54.440 as the non-committal version

00:28:55.880 of the new atheist movement.

00:28:57.120 I think the new atheist movement,

00:28:59.700 Chris Hitchens,

00:29:00.600 Daniel Dennett,

00:29:01.340 Richard Dawkins,

00:29:02.220 Sam Harris,

00:29:02.980 the whole point of it

00:29:03.860 was to just be so

00:29:05.080 fanatically,

00:29:06.580 flamboyantly atheist

00:29:07.760 that to be non-committal

00:29:09.700 is a separate category

00:29:13.180 of movement.

00:29:13.860 And so,

00:29:14.180 a lot of people are,

00:29:15.080 I've been agnostic

00:29:15.720 for a lot of my life,

00:29:17.500 it's just,

00:29:18.040 generally I find it

00:29:19.100 to be people

00:29:19.480 who just haven't

00:29:20.940 thought about it.

00:29:21.600 I also,

00:29:22.640 I think it's a no

00:29:23.320 because it implies

00:29:24.480 agnosticism came about

00:29:25.760 as a result of this movement

00:29:26.900 where it preceded it

00:29:27.700 for a long time.

00:29:28.620 Yeah,

00:29:28.860 of course.

00:29:29.500 So,

00:29:29.760 and I don't think,

00:29:31.280 I think agnostics

00:29:32.080 are like moderates

00:29:32.820 that they just pick a lane.

00:29:34.420 Yeah.

00:29:34.620 Like,

00:29:34.820 it's a lack of principle.

00:29:36.020 Yes.

00:29:36.420 Because it refers to belief

00:29:37.500 as opposed to knowledge,

00:29:38.620 right?

00:29:38.800 So you could be

00:29:39.280 an agnostic atheist

00:29:40.220 or an agnostic theist.

00:29:41.620 Hmm.

00:29:43.280 Even though,

00:29:44.080 even though agnostic

00:29:45.720 literally means

00:29:46.780 without knowledge.

00:29:48.180 Right.

00:29:48.440 So it could be like,

00:29:49.180 I don't have knowledge

00:29:50.100 but I believe in God

00:29:50.960 or I don't have knowledge

00:29:52.000 and I don't believe in God

00:29:52.900 but it's not a third choice.

00:29:54.940 Wow.

00:29:55.480 I, you know,

00:29:55.860 I had not thought of it

00:29:56.760 that way.

00:29:57.180 Yeah.

00:29:57.280 That one,

00:29:57.740 one could,

00:29:58.160 because I,

00:29:58.720 you know,

00:29:58.940 I believe,

00:29:59.460 being a papist myself,

00:30:01.100 I believe that

00:30:01.780 the existence of God

00:30:02.600 can be known with certainty

00:30:03.440 from the natural world

00:30:04.180 by the light of human reason.

00:30:05.680 And it,

00:30:06.760 but many,

00:30:07.540 many people

00:30:07.960 who are theistic

00:30:09.020 say,

00:30:09.920 well,

00:30:10.040 I can't really know,

00:30:10.760 I'm just taking a leap of faith.

00:30:11.860 And so in a sense

00:30:12.580 they are agnostic Christians.

00:30:15.500 Or they can say,

00:30:16.240 I had this personal

00:30:17.640 intense religious experience

00:30:19.140 but I don't have knowledge.

00:30:20.440 Right, right.

00:30:21.020 Like I didn't sit down

00:30:21.740 or have some deductions.

00:30:22.840 Like I just feel God in my heart.

00:30:24.300 Wow.

00:30:25.600 So don't let these agnostics

00:30:27.020 off the hook.

00:30:27.680 Right, no.

00:30:28.100 It's the worst.

00:30:28.760 They're just unprincipled monsters.

00:30:31.100 You know what will bring them

00:30:31.880 closer to God

00:30:32.440 and that's angel dust.

00:30:33.860 It has the word angel in it.

00:30:35.060 For a reason.

00:30:36.340 Ashes to ashes,

00:30:37.180 dust to dust.

00:30:37.860 It's endorsed by the Bible.

00:30:39.900 I might have to go to confession

00:30:41.660 after this.

00:30:43.380 You know,

00:30:43.920 people sometimes write into the show

00:30:44.960 and say,

00:30:45.200 Michael,

00:30:45.780 the thing you said,

00:30:46.720 it really helped me.

00:30:47.820 I proposed to my girlfriend

00:30:49.100 or I did the,

00:30:49.860 and you know,

00:30:50.320 now in five years

00:30:51.220 I'm going to get to say,

00:30:51.780 Michael,

00:30:52.140 my life was going great

00:30:53.140 until I watched you with malice

00:30:55.000 and then I got hooked.

00:30:56.680 I love this idea

00:30:57.640 that they're watching you

00:30:58.600 and they're like,

00:30:59.000 I want to get married.

00:31:00.620 Yeah.

00:31:01.260 Yeah,

00:31:01.580 until now.

00:31:02.460 Until now.

00:31:03.840 It's a wrap.

00:31:04.480 It's going to be,

00:31:05.180 it's like on Always Sunny.

00:31:06.500 It's like the guy on Always Sunny

00:31:07.760 who was like a good priest

00:31:08.900 or the good,

00:31:09.260 and then he became a teacher.

00:31:09.760 Would we both be Dennis?

00:31:11.180 We would,

00:31:11.700 I think we would actually.

00:31:12.100 I think we would both be Dennis,

00:31:13.240 right?

00:31:13.400 It's like not even a question.

00:31:14.300 Abortion is worse than slavery.

00:31:25.080 One, two, three.

00:31:29.440 Yeah, for sure.

00:31:30.580 I don't think abortion is worse than slavery.

00:31:32.320 How not?

00:31:33.000 Because I think there are cases

00:31:34.500 when abortion is acceptable.

00:31:37.780 Well, and there's no case

00:31:39.760 where slavery is acceptable.

00:31:40.440 Correct.

00:31:42.340 Okay.

00:31:42.820 There's a couple ways

00:31:43.660 to approach this,

00:31:44.520 but let's take it the first one.

00:31:46.060 When do you think abortion

00:31:47.180 would be acceptable?

00:31:49.700 Early on,

00:31:50.580 very early on.

00:31:51.460 Also,

00:31:51.860 if there's like some severe deformities

00:31:53.920 where the kid is not going to survive,

00:31:55.760 those are cases

00:31:56.380 when abortion is acceptable.

00:31:58.020 Why would you say so?

00:31:58.780 I mean,

00:31:59.000 why do you think

00:31:59.480 that would be acceptable then?

00:32:00.840 Let's say,

00:32:01.340 because those are two distinct categories.

00:32:03.780 Sure,

00:32:04.060 I'm just giving two cases

00:32:05.160 where I would say

00:32:05.700 those things are far more acceptable

00:32:07.000 than slavery.

00:32:07.460 But you wouldn't say

00:32:09.700 it's acceptable to kill,

00:32:11.980 you wouldn't say

00:32:12.540 it's acceptable to have an abortion

00:32:13.780 in the first trimester.

00:32:15.840 Objectively,

00:32:16.360 you're just saying

00:32:16.700 it would be more acceptable

00:32:17.520 than slavery.

00:32:18.320 No,

00:32:18.640 I'm for,

00:32:19.440 I am pro-choice early on,

00:32:21.260 although decreasingly so,

00:32:22.520 given,

00:32:23.320 it's kind of very disturbing to me

00:32:27.300 as a lifelong New Yorker

00:32:28.380 to see how many

00:32:29.620 of these slippery slope arguments

00:32:31.080 across different issues

00:32:32.260 have not only been validated,

00:32:34.300 but like,

00:32:34.660 not only they put butter and margarine

00:32:36.940 on that slope,

00:32:37.580 they also put,

00:32:38.000 I can't believe it's not butter,

00:32:38.920 so it's just like,

00:32:39.860 that thing is greased as hell.

00:32:41.900 Because it's got seed oils on it too.

00:32:43.080 And the seed oils.

00:32:44.300 It's completely poisoned, yeah.

00:32:45.620 That's interesting.

00:32:46.540 Because my argument,

00:32:48.240 my argument that I think

00:32:52.220 would be acceptable

00:32:52.840 within a kind of libertarian

00:32:54.340 or anarchistic framework

00:32:56.060 for why abortion

00:32:57.480 is always worse than slavery

00:32:58.560 is that abortion

00:33:00.860 always ends a human life,

00:33:02.460 even if it's a deformed person

00:33:03.920 or even if it's

00:33:04.460 a very early stage human life.

00:33:05.820 And that the right to life

00:33:08.840 is not merely one right

00:33:09.920 among many,

00:33:10.500 but it is the fundamental right

00:33:12.000 without which

00:33:12.580 the other rights cannot exist.

00:33:13.920 Kamala Harris just had

00:33:14.900 this great quote,

00:33:16.680 the great philosopher

00:33:17.460 of our time, Kamala.

00:33:18.500 She was giving a speech

00:33:19.640 at a pro-abortion rally

00:33:20.960 and she said,

00:33:22.100 you know,

00:33:22.420 in our Declaration of Independence,

00:33:24.860 we're promised.

00:33:26.080 We're promised certain things.

00:33:27.000 We're promised the right to

00:33:28.200 liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

00:33:31.800 I kid you not.

00:33:32.500 Yes.

00:33:32.840 You say, wait,

00:33:33.340 what was the,

00:33:34.280 what came before?

00:33:34.880 Liberty.

00:33:35.540 No, no, no.

00:33:35.820 I think it was before that.

00:33:36.440 The yada yada,

00:33:37.100 the good part.

00:33:37.680 Yeah.

00:33:37.980 The right to liberty

00:33:40.400 and the pursuit.

00:33:40.920 No, what did you just call it?

00:33:42.080 What did I just hear?

00:33:42.900 And so, you know,

00:33:44.140 you can't pursue happiness

00:33:45.560 without liberty

00:33:46.120 and you can't have liberty

00:33:47.540 without life.

00:33:48.480 You can pursue happiness

00:33:49.360 without liberty.

00:33:50.060 You think so?

00:33:50.900 How can you pursue anything

00:33:51.980 without liberty?

00:33:52.900 Because there are people

00:33:54.080 who are in horrible places,

00:33:56.180 like I talk about in my book,

00:33:57.160 I've been to North Korea,

00:33:58.340 who are pursuing happiness.

00:33:59.520 But when I say liberty,

00:34:00.660 I mean it more in a,

00:34:02.460 in the kind of Christian sense

00:34:03.580 of the term,

00:34:04.060 where one can never take away

00:34:05.240 the liberty of one's mind.

00:34:06.520 Oh yeah, okay, right.

00:34:07.420 That is a precondition

00:34:09.340 to assuming happiness, yes.

00:34:10.640 And so if slavery

00:34:12.220 is a question of liberty

00:34:13.240 and abortion is a question of life,

00:34:15.700 then doesn't the question of life

00:34:16.600 always have to take precedence

00:34:17.700 over the question of liberty?

00:34:18.580 Yeah, but I do think

00:34:19.500 there are certain cases

00:34:20.640 we're taking,

00:34:21.400 first of all,

00:34:21.760 I don't agree necessarily

00:34:23.080 that early abortion

00:34:23.840 is a human life.

00:34:25.300 Second, and that's a whole,

00:34:26.400 I know everyone,

00:34:27.140 yes, yes,

00:34:27.820 I know all the comments.

00:34:28.740 Thank you.

00:34:29.060 I'm sure this is something

00:34:29.640 you've never heard before.

00:34:31.680 But I,

00:34:33.060 the fact that it's sometimes

00:34:34.200 to me acceptable,

00:34:35.800 whereas slavery is

00:34:37.240 so beyond the pale.

00:34:39.780 And I also love the idea,

00:34:40.900 I can just hear

00:34:41.520 the comments right now,

00:34:42.860 that people,

00:34:43.700 even though that was the question,

00:34:44.900 are going to tell me

00:34:45.600 that me being against

00:34:46.600 slavery is virtue signaling.

00:34:48.560 Because you know that,

00:34:49.520 So they're not going to be upset.

00:34:50.280 Look at this badass,

00:34:51.280 he thinks he's against slavery.

00:34:52.320 Yeah, yeah,

00:34:53.020 I'm against it

00:34:53.580 because he brought it up.

00:34:54.440 I didn't bring it up spontaneously.

00:34:56.120 I brought it up

00:34:56.640 in response to the question.

00:34:57.860 I like the idea

00:34:59.180 that it's not,

00:35:00.260 people aren't going to be upset

00:35:01.020 with you for being

00:35:01.780 in support of abortion

00:35:03.060 in some cases.

00:35:03.720 Right.

00:35:04.420 It's that you're against slavery.

00:35:06.420 Oh, look at this badass.

00:35:07.500 That's the internet for you.

00:35:08.800 That's the internet.

00:35:09.220 That's true.

00:35:09.960 I'm going to get heat for that.

00:35:11.160 Wow.

00:35:11.600 Okay.

00:35:12.160 All right, well,

00:35:12.640 I guess, listen,

00:35:13.300 I guess I got that wrong.

00:35:14.440 I mean, I think I got

00:35:15.080 the question right.

00:35:15.640 But I got your intuition wrong.

00:35:18.240 Maybe we slide down

00:35:19.460 the slippery slope

00:35:20.200 six to 12 more months.

00:35:22.200 Maybe my answer

00:35:22.980 will be correct by then.

00:35:24.060 I am just gratified

00:35:26.000 that these different states

00:35:28.200 that are enacting

00:35:28.960 pro-life laws

00:35:29.700 are basically declaring

00:35:31.720 themselves anathema

00:35:33.180 to awfuls,

00:35:34.240 affluent white female liberals.

00:35:36.100 Because it's like,

00:35:36.740 this isn't your culture.

00:35:38.260 Stay where you belong.

00:35:39.220 And that, to me,

00:35:40.100 is the most important aspect

00:35:41.260 of the pro-life movement.

00:35:42.120 That's true.

00:35:42.940 Or not most important,

00:35:43.940 but a very important one.

00:35:45.160 But it is funny

00:35:46.820 you mention that

00:35:47.360 because the pro-life movement,

00:35:48.440 I mean, there are Democrats

00:35:49.400 in the pro-life movement.

00:35:50.240 There are leftists

00:35:51.340 in the pro-life movement.

00:35:52.140 And, which I sometimes

00:35:53.840 even forget

00:35:54.440 because I think it's all

00:35:55.160 conservative, Christian,

00:35:56.560 Republican type people.

00:35:57.680 But there is something,

00:35:59.960 I think, compelling

00:36:00.860 as we see a political

00:36:01.840 realignment going on

00:36:02.800 to just people looking at

00:36:04.140 and they say,

00:36:04.540 well, the people

00:36:06.960 on the pro-abortion side,

00:36:08.760 they're just terrible.

00:36:10.740 They're just wrong

00:36:11.420 about everything.

00:36:12.280 I can't call myself

00:36:13.160 pro-choice really

00:36:13.920 because, first of all,

00:36:15.360 if we're in a day and age

00:36:16.700 where pro-choice means

00:36:18.000 nine months,

00:36:18.880 I'm out of here.

00:36:19.560 Yeah, of course.

00:36:20.820 This is not an argument.

00:36:22.060 Like, what are you talking about?

00:36:22.800 You know, Dave Rubin,

00:36:24.220 last I talked to him

00:36:25.000 on this issue,

00:36:25.780 he was pro-choice.

00:36:27.500 He was totally fine

00:36:28.460 with abortion.

00:36:29.300 And I've noticed

00:36:30.040 over the years,

00:36:31.960 I say,

00:36:33.280 so when do you think

00:36:33.780 it's acceptable?

00:36:34.340 And he keeps pushing

00:36:35.000 that date back, you know?

00:36:36.340 And I think he's following

00:36:37.680 that.

00:36:38.660 I think he's following

00:36:39.500 the logic of abortion

00:36:40.480 as he thinks

00:36:41.440 about these things.

00:36:42.120 But I think a lot of it

00:36:42.900 also has to do with,

00:36:43.840 wait a second,

00:36:44.640 so these people

00:36:45.300 who are ostensibly

00:36:46.600 on my side of this question,

00:36:47.940 they're wrong

00:36:48.500 about everything else.

00:36:50.000 That was actually...

00:36:51.000 And ugly.

00:36:52.840 And physiognomy

00:36:54.960 is never wrong.

00:36:56.420 But the other thing is

00:36:57.400 it's also different

00:36:57.940 once you have a kid.

00:36:59.140 That's so...

00:37:00.000 When there's a face

00:37:01.040 and it's like,

00:37:01.700 oh, that it's complete...

00:37:03.140 You know, I'm an uncle now,

00:37:03.840 it's not the same

00:37:04.280 as being a dad, obviously,

00:37:05.320 but it's just like,

00:37:05.960 okay...

00:37:06.340 There's a similarity.

00:37:07.140 Yeah, there are things

00:37:07.880 that it's like,

00:37:08.240 oh, okay, okay.

00:37:09.100 I had...

00:37:09.820 I mean, I know

00:37:10.580 plenty of women

00:37:11.860 who have had abortions

00:37:12.600 at some early,

00:37:14.460 some very late.

00:37:15.160 And I did have this thought

00:37:17.000 because I, you know,

00:37:18.080 I have two kids.

00:37:20.500 One just turned two.

00:37:21.480 The other one

00:37:21.900 is six, seven months old.

00:37:23.780 And I was holding

00:37:24.700 my little infant baby

00:37:25.840 and I was thinking,

00:37:27.240 especially a couple

00:37:27.880 of months ago,

00:37:28.380 I'm thinking,

00:37:29.200 he doesn't look that different

00:37:31.440 than he did in the belly.

00:37:33.440 Like, that they could...

00:37:34.620 It's like...

00:37:36.180 This isn't...

00:37:36.820 You know, they tell you,

00:37:37.420 the pro-abortion people,

00:37:38.300 they tell you,

00:37:38.680 oh, you can't see the baby

00:37:40.020 on a microscope

00:37:40.720 and it's all just

00:37:41.620 a complete lie.

00:37:42.280 I mean, you can see...

00:37:43.180 These are like real...

00:37:43.940 They got their little fingers

00:37:44.760 by like nine weeks

00:37:45.780 or something.

00:37:47.020 Very...

00:37:47.860 It's true.

00:37:48.300 When you see...

00:37:48.680 Seeing is believing,

00:37:49.480 I guess.

00:37:50.120 And in many cases...

00:37:50.980 Okay, I'm up.

00:37:53.040 The Milo Yay West...

00:37:54.940 By the way,

00:37:55.440 I'm going to put a pause here.

00:37:56.260 Do we have to say yay?

00:37:57.500 I don't say yay.

00:37:58.460 No, it's Kanye.

00:37:59.860 If I don't call Bruce Caitlin,

00:38:01.800 I'm not going to call Kanye yay.

00:38:03.960 When I did Ben Shapiro's show

00:38:05.360 a couple weeks ago

00:38:05.920 for the first time,

00:38:06.660 I ended up by saying

00:38:07.480 that we ruined Kanye's day,

00:38:09.180 which we did.

00:38:10.240 Probably not.

00:38:11.140 Wait, but who are...

00:38:12.260 You, though.

00:38:13.580 Who is we?

00:38:14.080 Hold on.

00:38:14.440 Who is we, though?

00:38:16.000 The Milo Yay West

00:38:17.420 and Nick Fuentes' visit

00:38:18.460 to Mar-a-Lago

00:38:19.160 was most likely

00:38:20.280 a glowy CIA op

00:38:22.420 designed to destroy

00:38:23.720 Trump's 2024 campaign

00:38:25.680 before it could

00:38:26.920 even fully begin.

00:38:30.120 One, two, three.

00:38:33.500 Okay, here's my issue

00:38:34.600 with that meeting.

00:38:35.840 Yeah.

00:38:36.540 If you're going to meet

00:38:37.640 the president,

00:38:39.140 how...

00:38:39.700 According to Trump,

00:38:40.420 right,

00:38:40.600 he invited this

00:38:42.000 embattled young man,

00:38:44.700 African-American man

00:38:45.500 that he's friends with,

00:38:46.320 and he brought his friends,

00:38:47.580 and he...

00:38:47.940 How do you get a plus two

00:38:50.080 to meet the president?

00:38:51.540 Like, I don't have

00:38:52.100 a plus two here,

00:38:52.920 and this is, like,

00:38:53.580 the bottom of the barrel

00:38:54.760 of content.

00:38:56.160 And you're going to meet

00:38:57.220 the president in his house

00:38:58.240 after the president

00:38:59.480 had recently gotten in crap

00:39:00.960 for having classified documents

00:39:02.460 because they're like,

00:39:03.020 we don't know who's coming in and out,

00:39:04.100 and that's dangerous,

00:39:04.880 and he's like,

00:39:05.240 oh, no, no,

00:39:05.560 we have security here.

00:39:06.720 You're just letting a plus two?

00:39:08.260 Like, what are you talking...

00:39:09.060 And this is Trump's argument.

00:39:10.440 But isn't that an argument

00:39:12.000 that it is a glowy CIA?

00:39:13.280 No, it's an argument

00:39:14.060 that he's sloppy.

00:39:15.020 Yeah, yeah, no,

00:39:16.160 that's kind of more

00:39:17.120 of what I think.

00:39:17.580 Yeah.

00:39:18.080 I sort of think...

00:39:20.680 It would be more glowy

00:39:21.460 if they planted the documents

00:39:22.680 in Mar-a-Lago.

00:39:23.500 Right.

00:39:23.880 That would make more sense to me.

00:39:25.140 If you want to do it,

00:39:25.740 it's like, okay,

00:39:26.280 here's the nukes,

00:39:27.140 and here's the email

00:39:27.880 he's forwarded to Kim Jong-un

00:39:29.220 and is like,

00:39:30.280 hey, buddy,

00:39:30.980 here's how you make nukes

00:39:32.320 for cheap.

00:39:34.020 And here's an angel does,

00:39:35.100 by the way.

00:39:35.440 Like, here's an angel does,

00:39:36.720 C.C. Ayatollah.

00:39:38.320 Yes.

00:39:39.380 I really like Trump,

00:39:41.980 and so I tend to give him

00:39:42.960 more of the benefit of the doubt

00:39:44.000 than a lot of conservatives do.

00:39:45.200 But I think this is

00:39:46.040 a clear-cut case of

00:39:47.120 Trump genuinely likes Kanye West.

00:39:50.520 They actually have been friends

00:39:51.880 for a while.

00:39:53.820 Kanye was very supportive

00:39:54.960 of Trump,

00:39:55.760 and Trump even...

00:39:56.840 You remember in that

00:39:57.400 Oval Office meeting,

00:39:59.140 Kanye said,

00:39:59.560 I love this guy.

00:40:00.180 I've been wearing

00:40:00.560 the MAGA hat all the time.

00:40:01.520 And Trump actually said,

00:40:03.920 yeah, I know.

00:40:04.580 I just didn't want to put you

00:40:05.380 in a bad spot.

00:40:06.080 I didn't want to say it.

00:40:07.160 Oh, wow.

00:40:07.460 I didn't...

00:40:07.660 Yeah, and so he...

00:40:08.560 I actually think he had

00:40:09.400 this care for this guy,

00:40:10.280 and then it totally

00:40:10.860 blew up in his face.

00:40:11.740 The amount of affection

00:40:13.340 Trump has for celebrities

00:40:14.720 is so...

00:40:16.380 Dr. Oz,

00:40:17.480 Harsher Walker,

00:40:18.220 like any celebrity...

00:40:19.800 I gave money to Fetterman

00:40:21.180 because I want the Senate

00:40:23.080 to be as much like

00:40:23.880 Arkham Asylum as possible.

00:40:25.680 Yeah!

00:40:26.180 Because...

00:40:26.540 And thankfully,

00:40:28.720 that's happening.

00:40:29.320 I wanted to run for president.

00:40:30.820 All right.

00:40:31.400 I...

00:40:32.240 When that race was happening,

00:40:33.580 and I said,

00:40:33.900 look, we...

00:40:35.320 Oz was for Jussie Smollett.

00:40:36.900 Oz was for transition children.

00:40:39.380 He was...

00:40:39.700 How are you going to have...

00:40:40.500 He was like the worst candidate

00:40:40.920 I ever saw.

00:40:42.720 Is there...

00:40:43.120 I was yelling at conservatives

00:40:44.580 on Twitter.

00:40:45.140 I go,

00:40:45.580 is there anything

00:40:46.600 someone with an R

00:40:48.040 next to their name can do

00:40:49.480 where you're like,

00:40:50.200 I'll just take the loss

00:40:51.020 on this one?

00:40:51.540 Is there anything?

00:40:52.280 It was so...

00:40:53.200 When Mr. Crudite came out...

00:40:55.580 And look,

00:40:55.960 I like a good Crudite.

00:40:56.780 But when he came out

00:40:59.240 and he was attacking pro-lifers

00:41:02.140 on the radio

00:41:02.600 not long before

00:41:03.280 he started running

00:41:03.920 as a Republican.

00:41:04.500 Did he really?

00:41:05.100 Yeah.

00:41:05.840 And then he...

00:41:06.760 As a doctor.

00:41:07.540 As a doctor, of course.

00:41:08.900 You know,

00:41:09.260 he comes out,

00:41:10.340 he's weak on the trans thing.

00:41:12.620 He's just a weak...

00:41:13.760 Didn't campaign

00:41:14.580 as hard as he should have.

00:41:15.960 And whenever I would

00:41:17.700 criticize him,

00:41:18.260 I'd get this pushback.

00:41:19.320 I'd say,

00:41:19.500 well, you don't want

00:41:20.080 Republicans to win.

00:41:20.880 And I thought,

00:41:21.220 look,

00:41:21.560 if we're going to lose

00:41:22.280 the Senate anyway,

00:41:23.880 and at a certain point,

00:41:25.160 you know,

00:41:25.360 the map didn't start

00:41:26.420 to look right,

00:41:27.320 I thought,

00:41:27.600 if we're going to lose

00:41:27.920 the Senate anyway,

00:41:28.580 and we've got to have

00:41:29.120 some lib in the Senate,

00:41:30.620 I obviously want it

00:41:31.580 to be Fetterman.

00:41:32.240 But that's way funnier.

00:41:33.180 What is the point

00:41:33.920 of winning

00:41:34.320 if you don't get

00:41:35.140 any of your issues through?

00:41:36.300 Like, how are you winning?

00:41:37.160 Like, it's what cost

00:41:37.840 the man victory

00:41:38.620 if it cost him his soul?

00:41:39.660 Like, okay,

00:41:40.140 I win and I have

00:41:40.960 a Jesse Smollett guy

00:41:42.000 who's from Hollywood

00:41:43.220 who's been Oprah's,

00:41:44.360 you know,

00:41:44.740 lapdog for years.

00:41:46.080 What are you talking about?

00:41:47.380 Yeah.

00:41:47.940 That's not a win.

00:41:49.060 I agree.

00:41:49.600 I agree.

00:41:50.040 Okay.

00:41:50.820 You're up.

00:41:51.340 Okay.

00:42:00.340 I guess I gave away

00:42:03.460 my answer.

00:42:04.860 Manifesting is astrology

00:42:06.160 for straight guys.

00:42:09.980 Do you manifest?

00:42:12.000 Let's just give your answer.

00:42:12.900 One, two, three.

00:42:16.720 The answer is a no.

00:42:18.700 You manifest?

00:42:20.620 I manifested this book.

00:42:22.660 No, Michael.

00:42:23.880 Yes.

00:42:24.420 Yes.

00:42:24.900 How did you manifest the book?

00:42:26.400 I had the vision

00:42:27.660 of what I wanted

00:42:28.820 the book to look like,

00:42:29.900 what I wanted to write.

00:42:31.340 I manifested this whole

00:42:33.040 kind of book rollout.

00:42:34.540 I mean...

00:42:34.680 No, that's called

00:42:35.260 having a will and ability.

00:42:37.720 That's what manifesting is.

00:42:38.860 No, manifesting,

00:42:39.940 to my understanding,

00:42:41.080 manifesting is astrology

00:42:43.720 for, you know,

00:42:44.900 what does it say?

00:42:45.400 Astrology for straight guys.

00:42:46.120 No, I thought astrology...

00:42:46.980 Go ahead.

00:42:47.300 So, I thought manifesting...

00:42:50.260 My understanding

00:42:50.780 of manifesting

00:42:51.420 from my new age hippie friends

00:42:53.320 is that it is...

00:42:54.520 You know, okay,

00:42:55.060 you're a liar.

00:42:55.700 I listen.

00:42:56.200 You don't have any

00:42:56.400 new age hippie friends.

00:42:57.160 No, I have...

00:42:58.000 Who's Matt Walsh?

00:42:58.660 At least family.

00:42:59.420 Okay, there we go.

00:43:00.660 There we go.

00:43:01.140 Okay.

00:43:01.540 But these new age hippie types,

00:43:04.400 it's the idea

00:43:05.180 that if you just think something,

00:43:06.520 if you use your mind

00:43:07.600 to conceive of something,

00:43:10.140 that you can then force

00:43:11.860 the created reality

00:43:14.380 to bend to your will

00:43:16.420 and imagination,

00:43:17.800 which is why it's heretical.

00:43:19.660 Okay, I think that that's true

00:43:21.800 and that can happen.

00:43:22.700 I'm not joking.

00:43:23.240 No, no.

00:43:24.260 No, how does that happen?

00:43:26.280 Exactly how you said it.

00:43:27.500 That said,

00:43:28.700 what you're describing

00:43:29.620 is not at all analogous

00:43:31.120 to astrology.

00:43:33.040 Astrology is the idea

00:43:34.240 that you don't have

00:43:35.060 that manifesting power,

00:43:36.380 that basically you're a subject

00:43:37.820 to the whims of the spheres

00:43:39.020 and all this other stuff.

00:43:40.040 So even if these two things

00:43:41.440 are ridiculous,

00:43:42.160 they're not analogous.

00:43:43.720 What's astrology of a straight guy?

00:43:44.940 I think astrology of a straight guy

00:43:45.940 is this idea

00:43:46.740 that happens every 20 years

00:43:48.540 that Western civilization

00:43:49.600 is at an end

00:43:50.140 because civilizations

00:43:50.840 have this cycle

00:43:51.600 and that Oswald Spengler

00:43:54.020 kind of stuff.

00:43:56.020 That's astrology of a straight guy.

00:43:58.420 Okay, Michael,

00:43:59.260 I'm going to tell you something.

00:44:01.580 Is the angel us hitting?

00:44:02.840 No, it is.

00:44:03.640 You've just sort of...

00:44:05.800 I was just...

00:44:07.700 Minutes before I came in here,

00:44:10.160 writing an essay

00:44:11.040 about the decline of the West

00:44:13.220 and specifically Oswald Spengler.

00:44:15.580 I write about Oswald Spengler

00:44:17.860 very infrequently.

00:44:19.200 That is not a thing I often do.

00:44:21.020 But not a fascist haircut.

00:44:22.500 But not...

00:44:22.980 It's not even a fascist haircut.

00:44:24.520 I can't believe

00:44:25.000 a fascist has a haircut.

00:44:26.020 It's a fascist.

00:44:26.360 I don't know.

00:44:26.760 Is Elvis a fascist?

00:44:27.780 Is Dean Martin a fascist?

00:44:30.040 You've all...

00:44:30.880 But I think what just happened,

00:44:32.560 I was about to say

00:44:33.140 that you've convinced me

00:44:33.740 of manifesting

00:44:34.280 because you just brought up

00:44:35.340 a very obscure German

00:44:37.060 historian philosopher.

00:44:37.760 At the exact right moment

00:44:38.660 as we're discussing manifesting.

00:44:39.540 But I would consider that to be,

00:44:41.420 and I have to believe

00:44:42.540 that that is closer to providence.

00:44:45.540 And so...

00:44:46.120 I think that's a Venn diagram.

00:44:47.940 Providence works in mysterious ways.

00:44:49.360 But the difference is

00:44:50.280 providence is God's will.

00:44:51.640 Although what you're...

00:44:52.360 I guess maybe then

00:44:53.060 what you're saying is

00:44:53.800 that your will

00:44:55.620 providentially

00:44:56.800 happened to be in a line.

00:44:58.060 You know, there's that joke

00:44:58.920 about like God answers

00:44:59.980 every prayer.

00:45:00.580 Sometimes the answer is no, right?

00:45:01.840 Yeah.

00:45:02.160 But sometimes the answer is yes.

00:45:03.660 Yeah.

00:45:03.980 Right, right.

00:45:04.660 No, that's true.

00:45:05.200 And I love your point

00:45:06.300 on astrology

00:45:06.900 because in both cases,

00:45:09.400 manifesting and astrology,

00:45:11.220 it is about manipulating reality

00:45:13.540 to achieve your...

00:45:14.640 But how is astrology like that?

00:45:16.080 Well, because astrology

00:45:17.160 is just about reading

00:45:18.160 the predetermined fate

00:45:19.420 of the world.

00:45:19.660 But you're not...

00:45:20.200 You're powerless.

00:45:21.100 You're manipulating nothing.

00:45:22.080 It says to you...

00:45:22.580 Well, your only power

00:45:23.400 is to understand it.

00:45:26.140 Okay, right.

00:45:26.600 To interpret it, right.

00:45:27.240 And then I think the idea

00:45:29.740 is to change your behavior

00:45:32.000 to better record.

00:45:32.740 Because this is what's going to...

00:45:33.520 Yeah, you're in danger ahead

00:45:34.440 so watch out.

00:45:35.060 Exactly.

00:45:35.600 Whereas manifesting

00:45:36.580 is entirely about the will, right?

00:45:38.100 Yes.

00:45:38.200 Manifesting is just saying

00:45:38.780 my will is going to...

00:45:40.620 Basically, I will be God, right?

00:45:42.040 My will will transform the world.

00:45:44.260 I think that you and I are...

00:45:46.100 I'm not saying this

00:45:47.240 sarcastically or cynically.

00:45:48.840 I think you and I

00:45:49.700 are both so blessed

00:45:50.820 with the careers

00:45:52.540 and lives that we have

00:45:53.820 that at a certain point

00:45:55.480 it just passes

00:45:56.920 our very, very meager talent,

00:45:59.540 our complete lack of charisma.

00:46:00.840 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:01.140 You know, so you...

00:46:02.660 Our devilish good looks

00:46:04.860 but not quite at the level

00:46:06.060 of a Brad Pitt or something.

00:46:06.820 I would say more demonic.

00:46:10.180 Gargoyle.

00:46:10.700 Yes.

00:46:12.140 Yeah.

00:46:12.660 Okay.

00:46:13.140 Okay, all right, we're good.

00:46:18.840 That's an easy one.

00:46:20.020 The war in Ukraine

00:46:20.740 will last longer

00:46:21.440 than Biden's presidency.

00:46:23.840 One, two, three.

00:46:25.920 I think no.

00:46:27.180 Really?

00:46:27.900 Yeah.

00:46:28.160 I assumed it would last

00:46:29.500 for 20 years.

00:46:30.140 No, I think...

00:46:31.380 I don't think the will

00:46:32.100 is there from all sides

00:46:33.860 to go another six years.

00:46:36.260 When do you think it ends?

00:46:37.800 Sooner rather than later,

00:46:38.860 honestly.

00:46:39.560 I think the fact

00:46:41.000 that you have Republicans

00:46:42.040 already discussing

00:46:43.100 where's this money going

00:46:44.500 and even that Kevin McCarthy

00:46:45.920 is having a backbone

00:46:46.800 to be in any sense

00:46:47.640 anti-war.

00:46:48.360 That's true.

00:46:48.720 I think it's harder

00:46:49.300 to put it over

00:46:49.880 to the American people.

00:46:51.100 I think it's hard

00:46:52.080 for Putin to be escalating

00:46:54.120 even more on the Russian side.

00:46:56.360 And I think, you know,

00:46:58.040 even though this was regarded

00:46:59.020 as, oh my God,

00:46:59.880 you can't give into aggression

00:47:00.880 at a certain point,

00:47:02.200 they're going to cut a deal

00:47:03.060 and give him some property

00:47:04.160 or some land

00:47:05.160 and then it's like...

00:47:06.300 But can...

00:47:07.200 I assumed that's how

00:47:08.500 it would wrap up.

00:47:09.280 I mean, the doom and gloom

00:47:11.420 prediction was,

00:47:12.600 oh, Putin's going to roll in there,

00:47:14.320 he's going to take over

00:47:14.920 all of Ukraine,

00:47:15.520 it'll last one week

00:47:16.600 and that's over.

00:47:17.180 And I didn't quite think

00:47:18.080 that would happen

00:47:18.580 because Ukraine

00:47:19.700 is just a proxy

00:47:21.080 for the West

00:47:21.660 to fight this war

00:47:23.400 with Russia.

00:47:24.220 So I said,

00:47:25.160 no, the U.S.

00:47:25.620 isn't going to give up

00:47:26.200 Ukraine that easy.

00:47:26.920 It's not going to go over

00:47:27.660 in a week.

00:47:28.320 But now that Zelensky

00:47:30.560 has been built up

00:47:31.500 into Winston Churchill,

00:47:34.140 can he cut a deal?

00:47:37.380 I think the corporate press

00:47:38.800 would be regarding him

00:47:40.100 as heroic,

00:47:40.880 the man who brought peace

00:47:41.820 to Eastern Europe.

00:47:43.080 You can write the articles

00:47:43.920 right now.

00:47:44.440 Right, right.

00:47:45.000 He'll get the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:47:46.080 Yes.

00:47:46.660 Has he already gotten it?

00:47:47.860 No.

00:47:48.060 No, not yet.

00:47:49.120 I mean, you can see them,

00:47:50.060 they can do anything.

00:47:51.520 Right, right.

00:47:52.360 That's true.

00:47:53.040 That's true.

00:47:53.400 In fact,

00:47:53.880 if it were in their interest,

00:47:56.000 they would paint him

00:47:56.800 as Hitler, right?

00:47:57.880 Right, exactly.

00:47:58.860 I mean,

00:47:59.020 the Azov battalion

00:47:59.780 has now taken control

00:48:00.720 of Ukraine.

00:48:01.120 All of a sudden,

00:48:01.560 they're going to be

00:48:02.340 in the news again.

00:48:02.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:03.280 Right.

00:48:03.760 Okay.

00:48:04.560 That's a good case.

00:48:05.900 You're on.

00:48:11.400 Oh, this is a very good

00:48:12.780 question for once.

00:48:16.820 Midterm's hyphenated.

00:48:18.600 The 2020 midterm

00:48:19.960 election results

00:48:20.780 in Florida

00:48:21.380 were more about

00:48:22.940 the state's

00:48:23.640 strict election

00:48:25.040 integrity laws

00:48:26.020 than they were

00:48:26.960 about the better candidates.

00:48:31.660 One, two, three.

00:48:35.420 I think yes.

00:48:36.960 I think it was more

00:48:37.960 about the election

00:48:38.480 integrity laws.

00:48:39.380 You don't think that

00:48:40.360 DeSantis was a significantly

00:48:41.840 better candidate?

00:48:42.580 Oh, no.

00:48:43.440 DeSantis is, at the moment,

00:48:45.820 probably the leading

00:48:46.600 Republican in the country.

00:48:47.800 He's been right on

00:48:48.400 almost everything.

00:48:49.160 Right.

00:48:49.620 But one of those things

00:48:51.760 he's been right on

00:48:52.340 is election integrity.

00:48:54.100 I suspect Arizona

00:48:58.300 would have gone differently

00:48:59.280 and even Pennsylvania

00:49:01.180 might have gone differently.

00:49:01.840 The question's about Florida.

00:49:03.280 Right.

00:49:03.720 So would Florida

00:49:04.400 have gone differently?

00:49:05.040 No, no.

00:49:05.360 I don't think it would

00:49:05.740 have gone differently.

00:49:06.360 Then it's not about the laws.

00:49:07.760 It's about the candidate.

00:49:08.560 Well, let's see the exact

00:49:08.780 wording here.

00:49:09.240 The 2020 midterm

00:49:09.840 election results in Florida

00:49:10.560 were more about the state's

00:49:11.720 strict election integrity laws

00:49:12.780 than they were about

00:49:14.000 the better candidates.

00:49:14.860 So if the laws were not there,

00:49:17.160 DeSantis would still have won

00:49:18.200 but have less of a margin.

00:49:19.620 So it was about the candidates.

00:49:20.260 He would have won.

00:49:21.060 He would have.

00:49:22.060 It's about Florida.

00:49:23.220 It's about Florida,

00:49:23.700 but it's not just about DeSantis.

00:49:24.680 It's about the congressional seats.

00:49:25.880 It's about the local seats.

00:49:27.200 The congressional seats

00:49:28.160 were about redistricting.

00:49:29.460 I don't think they're

00:49:29.840 about the laws.

00:49:30.480 But I'm not convinced

00:49:31.340 that the narrative

00:49:33.540 that was spun

00:49:34.140 was that either DeSantis

00:49:35.820 is just so popular

00:49:36.900 that he brought everybody along

00:49:38.040 or that the Floridians

00:49:40.240 had their kind of

00:49:41.600 wake-up moment.

00:49:42.320 No, no.

00:49:42.660 It was definitely

00:49:43.520 about the laws.

00:49:44.340 That had a lot to do with it.

00:49:45.060 No question.

00:49:46.520 Okay.

00:49:48.260 All right.

00:49:48.740 Let me reconsider then.

00:49:50.140 The midterm election results

00:49:50.980 were more about the state's...

00:49:51.880 So do you think

00:49:53.060 if Arizona

00:49:54.340 were not yet again

00:49:56.860 at the center

00:49:57.640 of a controversy,

00:49:58.500 do you think

00:49:58.840 we would have had

00:49:59.480 a Governor Kerry-like...

00:50:01.760 No.

00:50:02.600 Really?

00:50:03.300 I think we would have.

00:50:03.900 I don't think any...

00:50:04.340 Blake, I'm not so sure,

00:50:05.260 but Kerry-

00:50:05.800 I think any...

00:50:06.960 First of all,

00:50:07.420 Biden took Arizona.

00:50:09.020 I think Kerry-Lake

00:50:10.080 is a lot...

00:50:11.440 I think she was very...

00:50:12.720 Every single article

00:50:13.740 in Arizona

00:50:15.420 about Kerry-Lake

00:50:17.260 was negative

00:50:17.740 without exception.

00:50:19.240 Many of these articles

00:50:19.900 didn't even bother

00:50:20.420 contacting for comment.

00:50:21.800 Sure.

00:50:22.060 I think the midterms

00:50:23.400 were far more blue

00:50:24.860 than anyone was anticipating.

00:50:26.880 Yeah.

00:50:27.460 And I don't think she had...

00:50:29.180 I think Hobbes won

00:50:30.260 by a considerable buffer.

00:50:32.220 I don't think

00:50:32.680 this was a squeaker.

00:50:34.700 It took a long time

00:50:35.440 to count those ballots.

00:50:36.820 Sure.

00:50:37.600 And the reason for that

00:50:38.940 is there were a lot

00:50:40.920 of mail-ins

00:50:41.780 and early voting,

00:50:43.060 and Maricopa County

00:50:44.360 had a lot of weird

00:50:45.800 things that happened

00:50:46.880 in it.

00:50:47.200 Notably,

00:50:48.260 the machines break

00:50:49.440 on election day,

00:50:51.520 and you had election

00:50:52.600 officials testifying

00:50:53.600 after the fact,

00:50:54.400 and not crazy-sounding ones,

00:50:55.660 but normal ones,

00:50:56.500 testifying to say,

00:50:57.160 look,

00:50:57.920 we had to check

00:50:58.460 to make sure

00:50:58.980 that the provisional ballot box,

00:51:01.160 ballot,

00:51:01.480 what did they call it,

00:51:01.980 box C or something,

00:51:03.540 was empty

00:51:04.740 by the end of the night,

00:51:05.440 but no one checked

00:51:06.160 to make sure

00:51:06.540 that it was empty

00:51:07.020 at the top of the day,

00:51:07.980 and we ended up,

00:51:08.700 and you hear these

00:51:09.160 precinct people

00:51:09.860 come in and say,

00:51:11.020 there were 200 extra ballots

00:51:12.500 over voters

00:51:14.180 that checked in to vote.

00:51:15.480 And so you think,

00:51:16.360 exactly 200,

00:51:17.640 too.

00:51:18.100 And so you think,

00:51:18.580 okay,

00:51:18.720 that sounds a little

00:51:19.380 systematic to me,

00:51:20.900 and I'm not alleging

00:51:22.320 that Hugo Chavez

00:51:23.120 was resurrected

00:51:24.760 in some voting machine

00:51:26.020 or something,

00:51:26.380 but especially

00:51:27.260 when you see,

00:51:27.980 Katie Hobbs,

00:51:28.680 Secretary of State

00:51:29.260 of Arizona

00:51:29.720 was the one

00:51:30.100 conducting the elections,

00:51:31.240 and then even

00:51:32.280 the Republican,

00:51:33.440 quote-unquote,

00:51:34.240 Republican election

00:51:34.980 officials in Maricopa County

00:51:36.240 were avowedly

00:51:37.440 anti-MAGA,

00:51:38.760 were avowedly.

00:51:39.480 I'm not saying

00:51:40.880 any of these people

00:51:41.560 are decent people.

00:51:42.480 The point being,

00:51:43.080 I'm looking at Georgia,

00:51:44.200 right?

00:51:44.620 So Georgia you had,

00:51:46.360 Herschel Walker

00:51:46.820 had two chances

00:51:47.740 and he blew them both,

00:51:48.960 whereas you had

00:51:49.580 Kemp come through.

00:51:51.340 You know,

00:51:51.720 Fetterman,

00:51:52.520 as we talked earlier,

00:51:53.440 is just like a

00:51:53.900 walking disaster,

00:51:54.520 so I think this kind of,

00:51:57.540 I think they just

00:51:58.700 worked the system

00:51:59.300 better than

00:51:59.700 the Republicans did.

00:52:00.660 Yeah.

00:52:01.260 Yeah,

00:52:01.540 I think there's,

00:52:03.380 outside of Arizona,

00:52:04.460 when we're talking

00:52:05.000 about maybe Pennsylvania,

00:52:06.660 certainly Georgia,

00:52:07.220 I think that's true,

00:52:08.100 and there is no question.

00:52:10.480 And Gertrude Whitmer

00:52:11.460 and Governor Hochul.

00:52:12.540 I mean,

00:52:12.760 the fact that,

00:52:13.560 I don't think

00:52:14.580 conservatives have

00:52:15.480 a good explanation

00:52:16.520 as to why

00:52:17.640 either of these people,

00:52:18.660 Hochul or Whitmer,

00:52:19.720 had even 10%

00:52:20.480 of the voters.

00:52:21.020 Right, right.

00:52:22.140 Because there's a lot

00:52:22.780 of people who

00:52:23.600 will just vote

00:52:24.400 blue no matter who.

00:52:25.540 There's also this fact

00:52:26.520 of Ron DeSantis,

00:52:29.100 who,

00:52:29.480 he's getting flack now

00:52:30.680 because he necessarily

00:52:32.340 is in the anti-Trump lane

00:52:34.380 because Trump is running.

00:52:35.960 But if Trump weren't running,

00:52:37.040 he'd be in the Trump lane

00:52:37.840 of the presidential race.

00:52:39.820 And so he's getting flack

00:52:41.560 also because

00:52:42.060 anti-Trumpers

00:52:43.060 are supporting him

00:52:43.880 because he's the anti-Trump.

00:52:45.160 So, you know,

00:52:45.880 that's not his doing.

00:52:47.240 That's a fact

00:52:48.200 of the circumstance.

00:52:49.500 It is simply the case

00:52:51.020 that Ron DeSantis

00:52:51.960 is leading the charge.

00:52:53.040 So, for instance,

00:52:54.160 the other day

00:52:54.720 he comes out

00:52:55.200 and he says,

00:52:56.200 we're going to ban

00:52:57.200 Chinese investment

00:52:58.460 in real estate

00:52:59.160 and we're not going

00:53:00.280 to only ban investment

00:53:01.260 from the CCP

00:53:01.820 because the CCP

00:53:02.500 doesn't only buy real estate.

00:53:03.460 Right, of course.

00:53:03.680 Right, they're not going

00:53:04.120 to say,

00:53:04.580 okay, sign your name,

00:53:05.500 CCP.

00:53:06.400 There we go, right?

00:53:07.320 And so it's a pretty

00:53:08.580 broad ban.

00:53:09.900 And then what happens?

00:53:10.780 Two weeks later,

00:53:12.320 Kristi Noem

00:53:12.780 in South Dakota

00:53:13.520 follows suit.

00:53:14.040 So he is in many cases

00:53:15.580 setting the agenda.

00:53:16.540 Yes.

00:53:17.000 So I'm not downplaying that.

00:53:18.840 But also,

00:53:19.920 I wish other states

00:53:20.580 would follow

00:53:21.060 Governor DeSantis' pace

00:53:23.720 and fix their freaking

00:53:25.720 voting laws.

00:53:26.380 Well, I wish that

00:53:27.560 Governor Abbott

00:53:28.340 stand up for something

00:53:29.360 in his life.

00:53:29.880 Okay, come on.

00:53:31.740 Did you just see his tweet

00:53:32.540 over the week

00:53:32.960 where he says

00:53:33.240 he's a better kicker

00:53:34.000 than the Cowboys guy?

00:53:35.760 I did.

00:53:36.100 So if he makes the joke,

00:53:37.480 I can make the joke.

00:53:38.080 I am delighted

00:53:39.980 as a Texan

00:53:41.160 that it is now

00:53:42.420 the official policy

00:53:43.440 of the Texas Republican Party

00:53:44.760 to have a referendum

00:53:45.760 on Texas secession.

00:53:47.820 And I think that is

00:53:48.640 something that is actually

00:53:49.740 going to happen

00:53:50.320 sooner rather than later.

00:53:51.320 Are you pro-Texit?

00:53:52.520 I am beyond pro-Texit.

00:53:54.880 Do you worry about

00:53:56.480 like partition in India

00:53:59.160 was not peaceful

00:54:00.620 or the breakup of Yugoslavia

00:54:02.920 was not totally peaceful?

00:54:04.080 We spent two years

00:54:05.020 being everyone in this country

00:54:06.680 was imprisoned in their home.

00:54:08.080 We are not living

00:54:08.780 in peaceful times.

00:54:09.720 We're just living

00:54:10.260 in docile times.

00:54:12.260 Well, that was pretty good.

00:54:14.440 Good night, everybody.

00:54:16.000 Okay, am I up?

00:54:16.920 I think so, yeah.

00:54:18.860 Let's see.

00:54:21.540 Okay, all right.

00:54:24.080 The Clintons have

00:54:25.160 a higher body count

00:54:26.280 than your average...

00:54:27.220 Okay, come on.

00:54:27.960 Who writes these?

00:54:28.660 What is this?

00:54:31.500 The Clintons have

00:54:32.280 a higher body count

00:54:33.340 than your average

00:54:34.080 Arizona State University

00:54:35.580 sorority girl,

00:54:36.600 roughly 187.

00:54:38.640 Due to YouTube rules,

00:54:39.840 make your guess

00:54:40.400 but do not verbally confirm

00:54:41.840 if the other person

00:54:42.640 guessed correctly.

00:54:43.860 Give only an ambiguous

00:54:44.940 nonverbal confirmation.

00:54:46.680 What?

00:54:47.000 This is...

00:54:47.460 Okay.

00:54:48.100 Okay.

00:54:48.840 Yeah.

00:54:51.140 The Clintons...

00:54:52.380 So you can't touch the drinks.

00:54:53.660 You can't say...

00:54:54.100 The Clintons have

00:54:55.980 a higher body count

00:54:56.720 than your average

00:54:57.280 ASU sorority girl,

00:54:58.920 roughly 187.

00:54:59.900 I don't like this question.

00:55:07.460 Okay, we're going

00:55:08.820 to count to three, right?

00:55:10.300 One, two, three.

00:55:12.440 Yeah, that's a very high number.

00:55:17.860 For the girls

00:55:18.720 or for the Clintons?

00:55:19.940 Yes.

00:55:21.740 And at that point,

00:55:23.040 you're just going to need

00:55:23.640 some kind of balm.

00:55:24.700 Good Lord.

00:55:29.520 Yeah.

00:55:30.980 No verbal confirmations, though.

00:55:38.740 Okay.

00:55:44.780 There's a backstory here.

00:55:46.260 Why am I here?

00:55:50.180 I should be...

00:55:51.000 I ask myself every day.

00:55:51.640 I should be in the Republic of Texas.

00:55:53.600 I know.

00:55:54.460 All right.

00:55:56.280 The term is co-authoring

00:55:58.100 because my name is on the covers.

00:56:01.640 Ghost writing

00:56:02.560 for a black man

00:56:04.540 is basically blackface

00:56:06.780 in print form.

00:56:13.480 One, two, three.

00:56:16.260 Okay, so I co-authored...

00:56:17.760 Go on.

00:56:18.400 What dialect did you write in?

00:56:21.000 There's.

00:56:21.800 So I co-authored two books

00:56:23.100 with D.L. Hughley.

00:56:25.180 Blackface is a caricature.

00:56:27.060 When you are co-authoring a book,

00:56:28.900 you are doing it

00:56:29.700 true to the person's voice

00:56:31.260 as much as possible.

00:56:32.200 You're not trying to put on

00:56:33.140 this ridiculous,

00:56:34.360 over-the-top...

00:56:35.140 If I...

00:56:35.780 Pervert...

00:56:36.540 If I...

00:56:37.320 Today.

00:56:38.080 There was actually...

00:56:38.780 Can I say one more thing?

00:56:39.820 The French word

00:56:40.780 for ghostwriter

00:56:41.820 is black writer.

00:56:43.120 Really?

00:56:43.520 Yes.

00:56:43.820 I prefer to say

00:56:45.860 writer of color.

00:56:46.980 Actually, I do.

00:56:48.060 If I...

00:56:48.520 There was a viral...

00:56:49.360 The letters are right.

00:56:50.580 So, technically.

00:56:52.060 There was a...

00:56:52.960 There was this bit

00:56:53.800 that said that

00:56:54.480 I was cast

00:56:56.380 in a new Daily Wire movie

00:56:57.580 to play Malcolm X,

00:56:58.880 that they were going to

00:56:59.360 reboot the autobiography.

00:57:00.440 Now, if I came out

00:57:01.920 and I said,

00:57:04.600 you know,

00:57:04.860 well, that's just

00:57:05.520 the chickens

00:57:05.900 coming home to roost.

00:57:06.960 You know?

00:57:07.200 And I came out

00:57:08.060 and I...

00:57:08.460 But notice,

00:57:08.880 I'm not...

00:57:09.320 This is not some...

00:57:10.160 I'm not doing a soft shoe

00:57:11.020 or anything.

00:57:11.440 I'm just saying a line.

00:57:13.280 That's the chickens

00:57:13.800 coming home to roost

00:57:14.580 when President Kennedy

00:57:15.540 gets killed.

00:57:16.620 And let's say that I...

00:57:17.880 My face were covered

00:57:18.760 in black makeup.

00:57:22.180 Would that still be blackface?

00:57:24.500 Even though I'm not...

00:57:25.300 Is this not a caricature?

00:57:26.560 This is not...

00:57:27.240 I'm not...

00:57:27.380 So, it's recent years

00:57:28.440 has become identified

00:57:29.620 as blackface,

00:57:30.260 which it's not.

00:57:30.860 But it's not.

00:57:31.360 Okay.

00:57:31.580 That's fair enough.

00:57:33.060 I can get into

00:57:33.860 the whole history

00:57:34.320 of blackface

00:57:34.860 and I'm not going to...

00:57:35.520 I think...

00:57:36.020 You know, by the way,

00:57:36.700 I remember I was sitting

00:57:38.020 with an Uber driver

00:57:38.820 and there was some

00:57:40.060 blackface non-traversy

00:57:41.740 was going on.

00:57:42.720 And I said...

00:57:43.200 And he was clearly

00:57:43.900 a conservative guy.

00:57:44.600 Black guy.

00:57:45.680 And...

00:57:45.960 Wait, how is he

00:57:46.480 clearly conservative?

00:57:47.740 He was driving a Cadillac.

00:57:49.700 I think he had

00:57:50.160 like a flag sticker.

00:57:51.360 I mean, he was not hiding it.

00:57:52.520 The cues.

00:57:52.900 Okay, yeah, yeah.

00:57:53.700 And...

00:57:54.060 But he says to me,

00:57:55.160 he goes,

00:57:55.340 oh, blackface,

00:57:55.960 man, I don't care about that.

00:57:56.820 If people are just having fun.

00:57:57.920 You know, if you're trying

00:57:58.340 to be cruel or something,

00:57:59.340 that's not good.

00:57:59.920 But if you're just having fun,

00:58:00.760 I don't...

00:58:01.040 It's no big deal.

00:58:01.940 And I thought, you know,

00:58:02.980 if you write out

00:58:03.840 blackface entirely,

00:58:05.960 if you write out

00:58:06.400 people playing caricatures,

00:58:07.840 characters of other races

00:58:08.980 or writing even in that style,

00:58:10.520 you're writing out

00:58:11.240 a lot of the American theater.

00:58:13.160 You're writing out

00:58:13.680 The Jazz Singer,

00:58:14.300 one of the greatest movies

00:58:15.060 ever made.

00:58:15.780 You're writing out...

00:58:16.600 Remember when they got rid

00:58:17.580 of Aunt Jemima?

00:58:19.500 As I said,

00:58:19.920 Aunt Jemima's a black caricature.

00:58:22.040 Candace got her

00:58:22.680 off the plantation at work.

00:58:23.860 It's true.

00:58:24.760 Good work, Candace.

00:58:25.460 At the time,

00:58:26.020 Candace wanted to sell

00:58:26.840 her own pancake syrup,

00:58:28.400 which would have been incredible,

00:58:29.800 and I was strongly

00:58:30.540 supportive of that.

00:58:31.240 But the Aunt Jemima character

00:58:33.660 was played by a black woman

00:58:34.820 and written by a black comedian

00:58:37.720 named Billy Kersands,

00:58:38.940 who was a black performer

00:58:40.660 of minstrel theater.

00:58:42.000 So now we're writing

00:58:43.100 that guy out.

00:58:43.840 We're writing the actress

00:58:44.560 who played Aunt Jemima.

00:58:45.340 We're just writing

00:58:45.780 all of that out?

00:58:46.740 So I have a minstrel show joke

00:58:49.360 in this book.

00:58:50.320 I downloaded a book

00:58:51.500 of minstrel show jokes.

00:58:52.320 This book has everything in it.

00:58:53.120 It does?

00:58:53.360 It's not so great.

00:58:54.640 So here's a minstrel show joke.

00:58:57.180 This is as written

00:58:58.200 from early 1900s.

00:58:59.800 By YouTube.

00:59:00.280 Hey, Sambo.

00:59:02.800 What's the difference

00:59:03.820 between the morning dew

00:59:05.480 and the late President McKinley?

00:59:08.500 This is the only,

00:59:09.100 by the way,

00:59:09.480 this is the only

00:59:09.940 President McKinley joke.

00:59:11.060 Well, McKinley.

00:59:11.700 What's the difference?

00:59:13.240 One is missed from the heavens

00:59:14.860 and one is missed

00:59:16.240 from the earth.

00:59:17.640 Wow.

00:59:18.700 It would be funnier

00:59:19.480 if I had, you know,

00:59:20.240 a whole one.

00:59:20.780 That would make it

00:59:22.020 much funnier than it was.

00:59:24.480 Yeah.

00:59:25.700 I'm going to have to use that one.

00:59:26.940 Yeah, go for it.

00:59:27.720 Sometimes I give these

00:59:28.560 college speeches on it.

00:59:29.840 Oh, God.

00:59:30.240 And I always try to open up

00:59:31.400 with a little icebreaker.

00:59:32.680 It's like, hey, Sambo,

00:59:33.980 what's the thing about McKinley?

00:59:35.540 I don't know.

00:59:36.160 Something about the earth.

00:59:37.100 Anyway, let's talk about taxes.

00:59:39.660 I actually did a little bit

00:59:41.140 of blackface on Ruben's show

00:59:42.640 and he edited it out because...

00:59:44.700 How did you do it?

00:59:45.180 I'll tell you right now.

00:59:47.720 He said...

00:59:48.960 He calls me the Willy Wonka of...

00:59:50.480 I've never told anyone this story.

00:59:51.720 I'm glad I get to tell it.

00:59:53.000 So he calls me

00:59:53.760 the Willy Wonka of politics.

00:59:55.080 Yeah.

00:59:55.840 And I said to him,

00:59:57.120 well, Dave, you know,

00:59:57.800 I'll do the whole bit.

00:59:58.880 It was really...

00:59:59.320 I planned this whole thing out.

01:00:00.840 I said, well, the thing

01:00:01.620 with Willy Wonka is, you know,

01:00:02.820 he punished people for their sins.

01:00:05.080 Augustus Gloop, greed,

01:00:07.100 gluttony, Veruca Salt, greed,

01:00:09.300 Dave Rubin, sodomy.

01:00:10.600 But you still get chocolate

01:00:13.720 all the same.

01:00:14.520 And I reached into my pocket

01:00:15.760 and I had a bag of pudding

01:00:17.640 in a plastic bag.

01:00:19.300 And I go, oh, it's all melted.

01:00:21.220 Oh, God.

01:00:21.760 And I got...

01:00:22.260 He's like, you got some

01:00:22.900 on your face.

01:00:23.340 I go, here.

01:00:24.020 And I just put it

01:00:24.760 putting all over my face.

01:00:26.420 And I go...

01:00:27.060 And then I said,

01:00:27.760 I think I just became

01:00:28.720 the prime minister of Canada.

01:00:31.860 And then he turns to his producer

01:00:33.360 and he goes, what do we do?

01:00:34.940 And we had to wipe my face off

01:00:36.720 and it never aired.

01:00:39.460 Someone get me pudding.

01:00:40.600 I want this bit live.

01:00:43.140 That...

01:00:43.740 Wow.

01:00:44.520 Yeah, there you go.

01:00:45.340 I'm going to have to go

01:00:46.220 through the Rubin archives

01:00:47.820 to unearth that.

01:00:50.940 Yeah, ghostwriting.

01:00:52.020 It's me.

01:00:52.440 Okay, it was ghostwriting.

01:00:53.480 Bring the drink.

01:00:54.500 No.

01:00:54.940 Thank you.

01:00:55.480 If each pill,

01:00:57.180 red, blue, black, and white,

01:00:58.940 were actual drugs,

01:01:00.920 the red pill would be...

01:01:01.940 You got to chop them up.

01:01:02.580 You got to chop them up.

01:01:03.960 Kind of like a certain...

01:01:05.520 The red pill would be alcohol.

01:01:07.380 The blue pill would be estrogen.

01:01:09.800 The black pill would be Xanax.

01:01:12.520 And the white pill would be shrooms

01:01:14.440 because everything's going to work out, man.

01:01:17.020 That's not what the white...

01:01:17.980 White pill in this book

01:01:19.300 does not mean everything's going to work out.

01:01:20.360 Well, hold on.

01:01:20.620 We got to answer first.

01:01:21.380 No, but the premise is wrong

01:01:22.700 because...

01:01:23.300 Does it say everything's going to work out, man?

01:01:24.880 Or you said that?

01:01:25.820 No, that's what it says.

01:01:27.100 The white pill means hope.

01:01:28.260 It's not guarantee of victory.

01:01:30.240 It just means there's an opportunity for it.

01:01:32.220 So your answer, I'm going to guess...

01:01:33.680 Is no.

01:01:34.240 Is no.

01:01:34.640 Yes, of course.

01:01:35.500 And my answer is no.

01:01:36.800 Shrooms are the red pill, by the way.

01:01:38.520 They're not whatever one they say.

01:01:40.460 Right, because the red pill

01:01:42.180 is just about kind of shaking up

01:01:43.460 your perception of the way

01:01:45.240 that things really are.

01:01:45.820 And the understanding

01:01:46.880 that what you've been told

01:01:48.160 your entire life

01:01:49.060 is a consciously constructed lie,

01:01:51.020 not mistakes.

01:01:52.220 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:52.780 Right.

01:01:53.440 But people misunderstand this

01:01:55.420 because they think something like

01:01:57.000 the white pill

01:01:57.760 or just having hope.

01:01:59.700 They think that that's

01:02:01.160 just an arbitrary

01:02:02.960 and unfounded choice,

01:02:05.280 like optimism.

01:02:06.440 Are you a pessimist or an optimist?

01:02:07.720 Pollyanna.

01:02:08.600 Yes, exactly.

01:02:09.620 And I think optimism and pessimism

01:02:11.980 are two sides of the same coin.

01:02:14.140 They're just emotions

01:02:15.940 that you choose to try to...

01:02:18.000 Contexts, yeah.

01:02:18.740 Yes.

01:02:19.380 Whereas hope is a,

01:02:21.420 in my view,

01:02:21.960 a theological fact.

01:02:23.580 But it is a fact of the world

01:02:25.940 based on my understanding

01:02:27.080 of how the history

01:02:28.220 of the world has unfolded.

01:02:29.600 And it is a far deeper thing

01:02:32.460 than just,

01:02:33.500 well, I hope it all works out.

01:02:34.880 That's why I wrote the book.

01:02:35.920 Because people are like,

01:02:36.400 why are you so hopeful

01:02:37.060 about America?

01:02:37.740 Look at this,

01:02:38.380 look at that,

01:02:38.740 look at that.

01:02:39.660 And it's like,

01:02:41.120 75% of this book

01:02:42.620 is really dark.

01:02:44.300 So I'm not bringing...

01:02:45.780 The white pill isn't

01:02:46.640 nothing bad ever happens,

01:02:48.400 the good guys always win,

01:02:49.700 there's no setbacks.

01:02:50.760 I go through

01:02:51.620 what the Soviets did

01:02:52.960 to their own citizenry,

01:02:54.320 and it is so absolutely horrific.

01:02:56.180 That's another thing I love

01:02:57.140 when people criticize

01:02:57.820 between anarchists,

01:02:58.400 like, oh,

01:02:58.940 you think people

01:02:59.500 are basically good.

01:03:00.260 I'm like,

01:03:00.740 I'm from the Soviet Union,

01:03:01.700 I did the North Korea book,

01:03:02.600 no, I do not think this.

01:03:03.860 But the point being,

01:03:05.640 they still lost,

01:03:07.040 and they didn't lose voluntarily.

01:03:08.800 They didn't lose

01:03:09.480 because they became good people.

01:03:11.240 They didn't lose

01:03:11.960 because they're like,

01:03:12.840 what are we doing,

01:03:13.540 this is wrong.

01:03:14.540 They lost because

01:03:15.640 of certain structural choices

01:03:17.560 and decisions

01:03:18.260 that people made

01:03:19.060 that forced them

01:03:20.080 to kind of surrender their arms.

01:03:21.560 So I am hopeful,

01:03:22.780 not because of some naive view

01:03:25.200 of human nature.

01:03:26.340 I am hopeful

01:03:27.060 because you can't look

01:03:28.560 at the enemy class

01:03:29.620 and think these people

01:03:31.220 are unstoppable.

01:03:32.420 They're not particularly impressive.

01:03:33.980 Right, right.

01:03:34.560 We have this idea

01:03:35.620 of the omnipotent libs

01:03:38.640 or whatever,

01:03:39.380 the omnipotent political observation,

01:03:42.140 or political opponent, rather.

01:03:44.480 And I just think,

01:03:45.560 how impressive are they?

01:03:47.940 Yeah, they have

01:03:48.680 a decent amount of power right now.

01:03:50.220 And momentum.

01:03:51.000 And momentum.

01:03:51.800 Yeah, I don't mean

01:03:52.240 to downplay that,

01:03:53.160 but I don't know.

01:03:54.800 They're not like

01:03:55.260 the be-all and end-all, right?

01:03:56.500 I mean, they still have to,

01:03:57.680 they're still fighting us.

01:03:58.620 They're still trying very hard

01:03:59.480 to clamp us down.

01:04:00.140 Why?

01:04:00.360 Because they're not omnipotent.

01:04:01.040 This country was won

01:04:02.660 by a bunch of white trash

01:04:04.840 who didn't even have shoes

01:04:06.660 against the greatest empire

01:04:08.500 in the world.

01:04:09.220 It's not a nice way

01:04:09.760 to talk about Thomas Paine.

01:04:11.180 And the greatest army

01:04:13.720 in the world

01:04:14.260 and an empire

01:04:15.160 and a king.

01:04:15.880 And they were hungry and cold

01:04:17.920 and they constantly had to retreat

01:04:19.240 and they won.

01:04:21.260 We are Americans.

01:04:22.660 Victory is our heritage.

01:04:24.260 So to claim that we can't defeat

01:04:26.400 the enemy class today,

01:04:28.600 the universities,

01:04:30.100 look at these professors.

01:04:31.280 You're going to cede the table to them?

01:04:33.980 Are you nuts?

01:04:34.840 Yeah, Kamala Harris.

01:04:35.920 She's what finally ended America.

01:04:37.620 That's it.

01:04:38.020 She beat us.

01:04:38.580 How could we possibly beat Kamala Harris?

01:04:40.280 That's crazy.

01:04:40.820 I know.

01:04:41.520 Okay, I got the last one.

01:04:42.520 You got the last one.

01:04:43.100 I don't even know

01:04:46.060 who this first person is.

01:04:47.360 This is how old I am.

01:04:49.260 I don't even know who...

01:04:51.260 Between Mariano Rivera,

01:04:53.260 who's that?

01:04:53.820 Oh, the great Yankees

01:04:55.300 closing picture.

01:04:56.240 Oh, okay.

01:04:56.680 Mariano.

01:04:57.420 Donald Trump

01:04:58.320 and Pete Davidson.

01:05:01.140 Mm-hmm.

01:05:01.840 There's a...

01:05:03.100 There's my favorite comedian,

01:05:04.960 someone named Neil Hamburger.

01:05:06.760 That's a great comedian.

01:05:07.860 He's my favorite.

01:05:08.500 Name, you know.

01:05:09.360 And he has this great joke about,

01:05:11.560 in the comedy tour of Caratop,

01:05:15.100 Dimitri Martin,

01:05:16.260 and Aziz Ansari,

01:05:17.840 who was most deserving

01:05:19.820 of a standing ovation?

01:05:21.500 Why?

01:05:21.880 The pilot who flew their plane

01:05:23.140 into the side of a building.

01:05:25.060 Side of a mountain, excuse me.

01:05:27.100 So between Mariano Rivera,

01:05:29.400 and then when people don't laugh,

01:05:30.900 he goes,

01:05:31.180 come on, guys, I have cancer.

01:05:32.380 Yeah.

01:05:32.560 Or would that be funny

01:05:34.600 if there's a black choir behind me?

01:05:36.180 Okay.

01:05:36.520 Between Mariano Rivera,

01:05:38.080 Donald Trump,

01:05:38.620 and Pete Davidson,

01:05:39.900 Skeet,

01:05:40.640 is that...

01:05:41.180 That Skeet is Kanye's nickname

01:05:44.380 for Pete.

01:05:45.200 Okay.

01:05:45.780 Is hands down

01:05:46.600 the greatest closer

01:05:47.620 of our generation.

01:05:49.500 Mm-hmm.

01:05:50.160 So...

01:05:50.920 Okay, I get this one.

01:05:52.020 One, two, three.

01:05:56.980 No, he's not...

01:05:58.340 Pete Davidson's

01:05:58.980 the greatest closer?

01:05:59.940 Yeah.

01:06:00.200 He lands all these chicks.

01:06:02.560 Yeah, but...

01:06:03.060 Have you seen this?

01:06:03.360 And he's not...

01:06:05.480 I don't want to disparage people.

01:06:08.400 The women are much more

01:06:09.800 attractive than he is.

01:06:10.820 Yeah, but I don't think

01:06:11.580 he's the greatest closer.

01:06:13.700 Between those three?

01:06:15.480 Oh, of the three.

01:06:16.800 Just of those three.

01:06:17.140 Oh, then yes, then yes.

01:06:18.020 For sure, yeah.

01:06:19.220 Because I would say...

01:06:19.840 Yeah, yes, no,

01:06:20.340 that's not a question.

01:06:20.840 I would still have to give it

01:06:21.940 to Mariano, I think,

01:06:22.880 being a New Yorker,

01:06:24.020 a Yankee fan,

01:06:24.780 it's the only sport...

01:06:25.540 Oh, so I got it right.

01:06:26.580 So you got it right, yeah.

01:06:27.860 But you know what?

01:06:29.060 I'm going to drink anyway.

01:06:30.020 Okay, good.

01:06:30.580 Finish that thing.

01:06:31.280 Chin-chin.

01:06:32.300 Cheers.

01:06:32.920 Michael, a true pleasure.

01:06:35.200 This has been a lot of fun.

01:06:36.280 And you need to write

01:06:38.300 another book more quickly

01:06:39.220 so that you can come back.

01:06:40.420 Or we can maybe twist your arm

01:06:42.660 to come back without a book.

01:06:44.460 Where can people get it?

01:06:46.500 WhitePillBook.com.

01:06:47.480 And in all seriousness,

01:06:48.780 the reason I wrote this book

01:06:49.880 partly is because

01:06:51.620 conservatism at its best

01:06:53.660 is about studying the lessons

01:06:55.440 of history and applying to today, right?

01:06:57.360 But it is shocking to me

01:06:58.860 how few conservatives

01:07:00.540 know the story

01:07:02.060 of the Soviet Union

01:07:03.280 and the part that

01:07:04.780 Reagan and Thatcher

01:07:05.560 played in liberating

01:07:07.340 half the world

01:07:08.040 basically peacefully.

01:07:10.400 And this is something

01:07:11.600 that the New York Times

01:07:12.400 can't be expected

01:07:13.100 to tell you.

01:07:14.260 And own your victory.

01:07:15.680 You guys did this.

01:07:18.040 So this is part of that story.

01:07:19.960 That's great.

01:07:20.620 I can't wait to read it.

01:07:21.540 This is my copy.

01:07:23.060 You can have it, sure.

01:07:24.220 So I now have my copy

01:07:25.640 of this book.

01:07:26.560 You can get your copy

01:07:27.900 of the Yes or No game

01:07:29.720 also at the Daily Wire shop.

01:07:31.960 And you can get PCP

01:07:33.640 in any dodgy neighborhood

01:07:34.800 in your city.

01:07:35.760 Go get that angel dust.

01:07:37.360 Or they'll deliver it

01:07:37.960 to your house.

01:07:38.400 Or they'll deliver it

01:07:39.180 to your house.

01:07:39.660 Just tweet at me.

01:07:40.220 I'll give you the guy.

01:07:42.180 If there's fentanyl,

01:07:42.920 that's your problem.

01:07:44.420 Okay.

01:07:44.800 Can we...

01:07:45.440 Mr. Davies,

01:07:46.040 can we cut that out

01:07:46.740 of the final show?

01:07:48.100 I'm Michael Knowles.

01:07:49.440 This is the Yes or No game.

01:07:50.360 We'll see you next time.

01:07:50.940 We'll see you next time.

The Michael Knowles Show - February 04, 2023

Anarchy, Demons, and Disney World ｜ YES or NO with Michael Malice

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