The Michael Knowles Show - December 26, 2022


BRAVE Mom SHOCKS Woke School Board With Graphic Reading ｜ Interview With Shannon Ayres


Episode Stats

Length

24 minutes

Words per Minute

191.4607

Word Count

4,689

Sentence Count

251

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Shannon Ayers is a mother of two, married for 30 years, and was a small business owner in Frisco, Texas for 20 years. She now works with a national organization called County Citizens Defending Freedom in their Collin County Chapter.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 My favorite genre of video today, it's videos of mothers going to school boards.
00:00:06.380 And then my favorite sub-genre of this genre is when mothers read materials
00:00:12.840 from the school classrooms and from the school libraries,
00:00:16.400 and then the school boards shut them down and tell them to stop talking
00:00:19.860 because that material is inappropriate for the children in the room.
00:00:23.200 The material from the classrooms and the libraries,
00:00:26.340 that's inappropriate for the children who might be in the room at the school board meeting.
00:00:30.540 And a prime example of this just took place in Frisco, Texas.
00:00:35.460 This would be Shannon Ayers, who is a mother of two, married for 30 years,
00:00:40.160 was a small business owner in Frisco for 20 years,
00:00:42.700 now works with a national organization called County Citizens Defending Freedom
00:00:47.740 in their Collin County chapter.
00:00:50.580 Shannon, thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:00:52.960 Thank you, Michael, for having me.
00:00:54.120 So I became aware of you because you show up to the school board
00:00:57.940 and you're not flamboyant, you're not yelling, you're not emotional,
00:01:03.180 you're not wearing some silly costume.
00:01:04.600 You show up like a normal person and you say,
00:01:07.400 here is the material being read in the schools.
00:01:10.720 This is obviously inappropriate.
00:01:13.020 And you get out, I don't know, a few minutes of this pornography
00:01:16.060 before the school board says, hey, you got to cut that out.
00:01:19.220 There are children in the room.
00:01:20.260 Exactly. Yeah.
00:01:23.900 So this was my second time to actually go in front of the school board.
00:01:28.440 I went last month as well, and they did let that one go.
00:01:31.520 But this one, I think, went viral because the school board president,
00:01:36.620 her name is Renee Archimbal, I think is how she says it,
00:01:40.340 stopped me.
00:01:41.500 Even though I was actually stopped, my mic had already been cut
00:01:44.400 and I had already started to walk away when she said,
00:01:47.900 I need you to stop reading that because there's a child in the room.
00:01:52.100 And I don't know, I was just, I'm sure you heard the audience reaction to that,
00:01:57.240 which was the same as mine.
00:01:58.380 Like, wow, are you kidding me?
00:01:59.680 I mean, that's like my whole point.
00:02:01.180 That's why I'm asking you to take this out of the school library.
00:02:04.400 So it kind of made a big splash.
00:02:07.320 Do you think that the chairman of the school board,
00:02:10.360 was she aware of how absurd what she said sounded?
00:02:13.720 Was she aware that she had just made your point for you?
00:02:16.240 Or no, she was actually just reacting in the moment
00:02:18.960 to the obvious obscenity that you were reading.
00:02:22.040 I don't think she was aware.
00:02:23.980 I don't think she was aware.
00:02:25.260 I still don't know that she's aware.
00:02:27.220 I've heard rumblings that people are very excited
00:02:30.400 that people on the other side of the issue
00:02:33.760 thought it was great that she did that.
00:02:36.220 I'm like, okay.
00:02:37.700 But if you look at the comments underneath the video
00:02:39.980 that was posted online,
00:02:43.380 99.9% of them are with me.
00:02:46.260 Of course, I can't believe that there is an other side to the issue.
00:02:49.480 Because the issue here that we're talking about is,
00:02:51.660 should 14-year-olds read porn in schools?
00:02:54.620 And it's not just,
00:02:56.060 it's not even just normal porn.
00:02:58.260 I mean, obviously what you were reading in that viral video
00:03:00.840 was gross,
00:03:03.060 but it was pretty run-of-the-mill pornography.
00:03:06.820 But then in your other appearance before the school board,
00:03:09.560 you're reading a book that was in the school library
00:03:11.360 of a father graphically and violently raping his little daughter.
00:03:17.640 Yeah, and I don't know if it's obvious in what I read,
00:03:20.300 but it was actually,
00:03:22.060 the rape was being watched by her twin sister.
00:03:25.300 And the twin sister was actually longing
00:03:27.600 for that type of affection from the father.
00:03:30.320 So it was a pretty sick,
00:03:33.400 in my opinion,
00:03:34.320 that book was even worse than what I read this last week.
00:03:38.140 Of course.
00:03:38.900 So I just,
00:03:40.440 I mean,
00:03:40.680 man,
00:03:41.260 I can't believe that that scene,
00:03:43.920 which was already so creepy,
00:03:45.740 somehow got even creepier with that context.
00:03:48.040 I can't say I'm familiar with that author's work,
00:03:50.640 you know,
00:03:51.240 but how is there another side of this issue?
00:03:55.440 I just don't get what kind of sicko
00:03:57.720 could even concoct an argument
00:04:00.320 as to why 14-year-olds need to be exposed
00:04:03.320 to pornography of little girls
00:04:06.820 longing for their father to rape them
00:04:10.100 the way they raped,
00:04:11.580 the way the father raped the girl's twin sister.
00:04:15.040 What's the argument?
00:04:16.600 The only argument that I'm hearing is,
00:04:19.360 you know,
00:04:19.760 that there might be a young teen,
00:04:22.480 a young girl who's experiencing that
00:04:24.400 and needs to be able to see in literature
00:04:27.600 that she's not the only one,
00:04:29.660 that things like this happen,
00:04:30.760 that she's not alone,
00:04:32.500 something that she can identify with.
00:04:35.440 I mean,
00:04:36.420 that's all I've heard that,
00:04:38.140 that they've tried to use it as an excuse.
00:04:41.600 But even,
00:04:42.440 let's say that there's some poor girl
00:04:44.060 who's being raped by her father
00:04:45.480 and she,
00:04:46.700 and this is why these liberals
00:04:48.140 who are running the school libraries,
00:04:50.400 they say,
00:04:50.620 we need to have this rape fantasy incest porn
00:04:54.300 for the girl who's being raped by her father.
00:04:58.020 They're saying that the best way
00:04:59.500 to reach out to this girl
00:05:00.580 is to present a rape of a father to a daughter
00:05:04.660 as something to be longed for
00:05:07.060 and fantasized about?
00:05:08.960 Right.
00:05:09.920 It makes no sense.
00:05:11.020 I mean,
00:05:11.220 the child needs to be in therapy,
00:05:12.500 obviously doesn't need to be reading a book
00:05:14.080 that basically makes it seem normal.
00:05:16.640 You know,
00:05:16.920 like it's,
00:05:17.700 you're not the only one,
00:05:18.540 it's okay,
00:05:19.020 it happens.
00:05:19.740 It's no,
00:05:20.560 that's not what we want to,
00:05:21.600 yeah,
00:05:21.820 that's not what we want to teach our kids.
00:05:22.020 Well,
00:05:22.120 that's amazing
00:05:22.680 and you've just put that into words,
00:05:25.020 what they are doing.
00:05:26.740 Their actual argument is
00:05:28.240 we need to normalize this.
00:05:30.180 We need to normalize a father
00:05:31.560 raping his daughter.
00:05:32.740 That's the best argument
00:05:33.580 they've got for it.
00:05:34.540 That's the best argument
00:05:35.800 that I've heard.
00:05:36.700 That is truly,
00:05:37.640 that is truly chilling.
00:05:39.740 So,
00:05:40.380 obviously the public is with you.
00:05:42.420 I don't need to take
00:05:43.440 a public opinion poll to know
00:05:45.140 the public is with you on this.
00:05:46.680 No one,
00:05:47.120 I mean,
00:05:47.520 this has been a major political force now.
00:05:49.260 You saw it in the Glenn Youngkin election.
00:05:51.060 You saw it in Ron DeSantis' elections in Florida.
00:05:54.620 You're seeing it around the country.
00:05:56.220 So,
00:05:56.580 how is the movement going?
00:05:58.800 I mean,
00:05:59.120 obviously there are still
00:05:59.940 these crazy school board members.
00:06:01.620 There's still this porn in schools.
00:06:03.060 Where does the whole thing stand?
00:06:04.720 Well,
00:06:05.140 unfortunately,
00:06:06.120 you know,
00:06:06.740 the only way you can remove
00:06:07.580 a school board member
00:06:08.300 is with an election.
00:06:09.600 There's no mechanism in Texas
00:06:11.200 to be able to recall
00:06:12.700 or remove a school board member.
00:06:14.620 So,
00:06:14.740 we have to wait for elections
00:06:15.860 and every election cycle,
00:06:17.620 there's only,
00:06:18.260 you know,
00:06:18.500 a couple of seats available
00:06:19.880 to run for.
00:06:21.480 So,
00:06:21.780 last May,
00:06:22.320 we did have an election.
00:06:23.480 Three seats were up for re-election.
00:06:25.280 We won two of those.
00:06:26.460 So,
00:06:26.620 we do have two amazing
00:06:27.980 school board members
00:06:32.260 who are on our side
00:06:33.760 who are helping,
00:06:34.420 but they're,
00:06:34.780 of course,
00:06:34.980 not the majority yet.
00:06:36.300 So,
00:06:36.880 they can only really get
00:06:38.240 the message out.
00:06:39.360 They can ask questions
00:06:40.280 during school board meetings.
00:06:41.260 They can put things
00:06:41.980 on the agenda
00:06:42.620 for parents to be aware,
00:06:45.380 but they can't,
00:06:46.320 you know,
00:06:46.460 they lose most votes.
00:06:48.360 So,
00:06:48.680 we're looking forward
00:06:50.160 to next May.
00:06:51.180 We have two more seats
00:06:52.480 up for re-election
00:06:54.040 and we are hoping
00:06:55.640 to run two,
00:06:56.800 you know,
00:06:57.160 very conservative
00:06:57.880 board members
00:06:59.520 who will hopefully
00:07:00.100 take those seats
00:07:00.700 and then we will have
00:07:01.440 the majority.
00:07:02.140 But right now,
00:07:04.280 the district will tell you
00:07:05.740 that they are doing
00:07:06.480 something about it.
00:07:07.540 They have,
00:07:08.200 you know,
00:07:08.580 updated their library
00:07:10.260 review,
00:07:11.140 resources review process.
00:07:12.820 We have a formal
00:07:13.900 reconsideration process.
00:07:15.240 Then we have appeals
00:07:16.380 processes that you can
00:07:17.360 go through.
00:07:17.840 The problem with that
00:07:18.560 is the book stays,
00:07:19.520 you know,
00:07:19.900 the book remains
00:07:20.500 on the shelves
00:07:21.280 even during that process.
00:07:23.080 The process is very lengthy.
00:07:25.320 The first book
00:07:26.120 that I read
00:07:27.160 about the father
00:07:28.880 and his daughter,
00:07:29.560 that had been
00:07:31.020 submitted back in August
00:07:32.800 for reconsideration.
00:07:35.240 It passed the first round
00:07:36.640 of reconsideration.
00:07:38.000 So,
00:07:38.420 it was appealed
00:07:39.180 and it,
00:07:41.060 I think it was
00:07:42.220 in the middle of appeal
00:07:43.220 when I read
00:07:44.140 the book out loud
00:07:45.640 and two days later
00:07:47.160 is when it was
00:07:48.440 taken off the shelf.
00:07:50.020 So,
00:07:50.240 it was eventually
00:07:50.940 taken off the shelf.
00:07:52.900 Shannon,
00:07:53.220 do you think that had to do
00:07:54.380 with the precise timing
00:07:56.320 of the appeals process
00:07:57.440 or do you think maybe
00:07:58.320 you shining a little bit
00:07:59.840 of light on this
00:08:00.420 might have sped
00:08:01.000 that process up a little?
00:08:02.600 It might have.
00:08:03.280 I don't know how long
00:08:04.080 that process generally takes
00:08:05.460 or where it was
00:08:06.280 in that process
00:08:06.960 but it might have.
00:08:08.180 It might have.
00:08:09.200 Interesting though,
00:08:10.280 that book
00:08:11.180 was written by an author
00:08:12.620 who has many books
00:08:13.960 in our school libraries
00:08:15.100 all across the country.
00:08:16.460 She's a very popular author
00:08:17.700 with teens
00:08:19.460 and 15 books
00:08:22.100 were removed
00:08:22.700 at that appeal
00:08:23.800 during that appeal process
00:08:25.280 and 12 of them
00:08:26.980 were this same author.
00:08:28.420 Who is the author
00:08:29.620 if you don't mind my asking?
00:08:30.500 Her name is Ellen Hopkins.
00:08:32.500 Ellen Hopkins.
00:08:33.300 The name of that book
00:08:36.140 was Identical.
00:08:38.520 It was about identical twins.
00:08:40.800 Twin girls.
00:08:41.380 And the incest, Michael,
00:08:43.280 is just one of many
00:08:45.320 very disturbing topics
00:08:47.560 that that book talks about.
00:08:50.000 It talks about sadomasochism.
00:08:51.840 It talks about cutting.
00:08:52.940 It talks about drugs.
00:08:54.900 There's prostitution.
00:08:57.420 I mean,
00:08:57.920 there's everything
00:08:58.740 you can think of
00:08:59.620 in that book.
00:09:00.360 So hard to believe
00:09:01.860 there's any redeeming value
00:09:03.040 to it at all.
00:09:04.140 You know,
00:09:04.380 sometimes when people
00:09:06.320 make perfectly
00:09:07.100 common sense observations
00:09:08.480 like we don't need
00:09:09.560 hardcore incest porn
00:09:11.040 in schools,
00:09:12.020 the rejoinder will be,
00:09:13.740 well, you're censoring art.
00:09:15.520 You don't.
00:09:16.120 You Philistines
00:09:16.800 are trying to get rid of culture.
00:09:18.160 And sometimes even people
00:09:19.300 will say,
00:09:19.760 you know,
00:09:20.120 there's a lot of bad stuff
00:09:21.360 in the Bible.
00:09:22.420 You know,
00:09:22.660 there's incest in the Bible.
00:09:24.200 There's rape in the Bible.
00:09:25.380 Are you now advocating
00:09:27.040 that we ban the Bible?
00:09:28.120 And it brings me back
00:09:29.900 to really the center
00:09:31.820 of the American debate
00:09:32.920 over obscenity,
00:09:34.280 which completely spun out of control
00:09:36.200 in the middle of the 20th century.
00:09:37.920 It comes back to a Supreme Court justice
00:09:39.740 named Potter Stewart
00:09:40.740 who was asked
00:09:42.280 how to define pornography
00:09:44.060 and obscenity.
00:09:45.620 And he said,
00:09:46.160 you know,
00:09:46.700 I can't quite define it,
00:09:48.760 but I know it when I see it.
00:09:50.980 And this line is made fun of.
00:09:52.900 I mean,
00:09:53.120 it's a term of derision
00:09:55.460 that is thrown at conservatives.
00:09:56.740 But I don't really see
00:09:58.120 why it is made fun of
00:09:59.380 when,
00:10:00.160 as far as I can tell,
00:10:02.320 you actually do know it
00:10:03.420 when you see it.
00:10:04.120 Is that such a crazy observation?
00:10:05.960 You do.
00:10:06.520 I mean,
00:10:06.700 there's this legal definition,
00:10:08.320 you know,
00:10:08.680 of what obscenity is.
00:10:09.940 I don't know why we need
00:10:10.740 a legal definition
00:10:11.480 because you do know it
00:10:12.420 when you see it.
00:10:13.720 But that's what,
00:10:14.660 you know,
00:10:15.020 unfortunately in Texas
00:10:16.120 there is a
00:10:17.260 obscenity exemption clause
00:10:20.080 in the law.
00:10:21.240 And so if it's used
00:10:22.220 in an educational,
00:10:23.720 for an educational purpose,
00:10:25.300 then it's allowed.
00:10:26.480 And that's what
00:10:27.060 they're hiding behind
00:10:28.000 in the school,
00:10:30.980 that and the First Amendment.
00:10:31.920 They're saying it violates
00:10:32.820 a child's First Amendment rights
00:10:34.040 to pull these books
00:10:34.860 off of the shelf,
00:10:35.760 which,
00:10:36.580 I mean,
00:10:36.860 I spoke to that
00:10:37.460 in my first video.
00:10:38.320 It's like,
00:10:38.620 really?
00:10:38.940 I mean,
00:10:39.120 are we violating
00:10:39.820 their Second Amendment rights
00:10:40.980 when we tell them
00:10:41.620 they can't carry a gun
00:10:42.580 to school?
00:10:43.200 No,
00:10:43.480 because they're children.
00:10:44.360 We're talking about children.
00:10:45.400 They don't have the same rights
00:10:46.340 that we do as adults
00:10:47.280 for good reason.
00:10:48.720 Are we violating
00:10:49.680 their Third Amendment rights
00:10:50.820 when we quarter British soldiers
00:10:52.120 in their,
00:10:52.560 well,
00:10:52.800 never mind,
00:10:53.240 that's not a good example.
00:10:53.780 But there are plenty
00:10:54.900 of other examples.
00:10:55.600 No,
00:10:55.740 of course.
00:10:56.700 I mean,
00:10:57.160 first of all,
00:10:58.220 since when does
00:10:58.960 the First Amendment
00:10:59.820 protect your right
00:11:01.680 to be able to access
00:11:03.240 any book you want
00:11:04.380 at a specific library,
00:11:06.080 period,
00:11:06.440 even if you're an adult?
00:11:07.740 But then,
00:11:08.660 second of all,
00:11:09.040 to suggest that children
00:11:09.840 have this right?
00:11:10.560 Do children have the right
00:11:11.660 to say whatever they want
00:11:13.040 in schools?
00:11:13.660 I don't think so.
00:11:14.220 I think if I said
00:11:14.840 naughty things in schools,
00:11:16.200 the teacher would yell at me
00:11:17.140 and probably give me
00:11:17.700 a bad grade.
00:11:19.380 Right.
00:11:19.900 And,
00:11:20.120 you know,
00:11:20.700 we get called book burners
00:11:22.540 a lot and ban,
00:11:23.380 you know,
00:11:23.520 we're trying to ban books.
00:11:24.660 And my argument for that
00:11:25.660 is,
00:11:25.920 look,
00:11:27.220 are we banning cigarettes
00:11:28.660 and alcohol
00:11:29.100 because we don't allow
00:11:29.860 children to buy cigarettes
00:11:30.920 and alcohol?
00:11:31.800 Are we banning movies
00:11:33.180 because we don't allow
00:11:34.080 them to watch Rated R,
00:11:35.360 Rated X,
00:11:36.160 NC-17 movies?
00:11:37.340 Are we banning all movies
00:11:38.300 because of that?
00:11:38.800 Are we banning guns
00:11:39.500 because we don't let them,
00:11:40.380 you know,
00:11:40.620 carry a gun or buy a gun?
00:11:42.240 No,
00:11:42.580 we're just limiting
00:11:43.440 their access,
00:11:44.420 children's access
00:11:45.160 to these things
00:11:46.000 because they're not
00:11:46.900 mentally,
00:11:47.600 emotionally ready
00:11:48.840 for this kind of
00:11:50.560 either physical
00:11:51.380 or mental harm.
00:11:53.100 I mean,
00:11:53.340 you don't,
00:11:53.680 you,
00:11:54.140 they have,
00:11:54.660 their brains have,
00:11:55.480 are so ripe for,
00:11:58.360 I mean,
00:11:58.520 they're just so impressionable
00:11:59.900 is the word I'm looking for
00:12:00.900 at that age.
00:12:01.620 And so we have to protect them
00:12:02.780 where that's what we're
00:12:03.400 supposed to do as adults.
00:12:04.660 When did that,
00:12:05.220 when did that stop?
00:12:06.120 We've always,
00:12:06.840 we've always protected our kids.
00:12:08.400 And now all of a sudden
00:12:09.360 it's like,
00:12:09.740 oh no,
00:12:10.120 they're,
00:12:10.520 they're,
00:12:10.960 they can handle it.
00:12:11.680 They need to see it.
00:12:12.480 They need to know
00:12:12.980 that they're not alone.
00:12:14.580 You know,
00:12:15.200 people,
00:12:15.660 they throw out
00:12:16.520 the whole Bible thing
00:12:18.500 and I actually saw
00:12:19.480 somebody online
00:12:20.320 arguing that point
00:12:21.620 and I'm like,
00:12:22.120 okay,
00:12:22.920 name a Sunday school class
00:12:24.660 where the parts
00:12:25.800 in the Bible
00:12:26.280 about incest
00:12:27.420 and all of that
00:12:28.440 are,
00:12:28.920 you know,
00:12:29.200 a Sunday school class
00:12:29.860 where they teach
00:12:30.360 those passages.
00:12:31.460 Those passages
00:12:32.180 are hard even
00:12:33.600 for an adult sometimes
00:12:34.680 to process
00:12:35.360 and understand.
00:12:36.240 So of course
00:12:37.300 we're not going to teach
00:12:38.060 that to children.
00:12:39.360 In the introduction
00:12:40.340 to the book of Genesis,
00:12:41.980 say,
00:12:42.280 maybe you wait a year
00:12:43.080 or two before you
00:12:43.880 deal with that.
00:12:44.800 Yeah,
00:12:45.240 yeah,
00:12:45.600 you know,
00:12:45.860 you stick with the Noah's Ark
00:12:47.080 and Adam and Eve
00:12:49.280 being,
00:12:49.660 you know,
00:12:49.900 in the garden
00:12:50.680 with the apple
00:12:51.360 and all of that.
00:12:52.200 You don't,
00:12:52.500 you don't hit those,
00:12:53.480 those topics
00:12:54.360 that are really
00:12:55.200 very difficult
00:12:55.800 even sometimes
00:12:56.480 for adults
00:12:57.040 to understand.
00:12:57.800 So,
00:12:58.660 got to protect the kids
00:12:59.580 and wait until
00:13:00.160 they're development,
00:13:01.280 they're,
00:13:01.620 they're developmentally ready
00:13:02.980 for that type
00:13:03.920 of material.
00:13:06.180 I love it
00:13:06.540 when people call me
00:13:07.360 a book burner
00:13:08.200 and a book banner.
00:13:09.480 I always say,
00:13:10.240 oh,
00:13:10.420 you're accusing me
00:13:11.120 of banning
00:13:11.580 and burning books
00:13:12.360 like Plato
00:13:13.580 or like the apostles
00:13:15.720 in the book of Acts
00:13:17.220 or like,
00:13:18.380 I don't know,
00:13:19.940 most great men
00:13:20.780 throughout history
00:13:21.500 who have,
00:13:22.140 who have,
00:13:22.960 you know,
00:13:23.820 beyond this kind of
00:13:24.920 provocative image
00:13:25.980 of burning books,
00:13:27.180 who have had standards.
00:13:29.960 Every society
00:13:30.940 has standards
00:13:32.500 and we usually
00:13:33.920 apply those standards
00:13:34.900 in a,
00:13:35.480 in a much stricter way
00:13:36.620 when we're talking
00:13:37.680 about children
00:13:38.360 and they,
00:13:38.960 they pretend
00:13:39.560 that we're sort of
00:13:40.820 somehow monsters
00:13:41.780 or like we're fascists
00:13:42.860 or something
00:13:43.380 because we want
00:13:44.940 to have what
00:13:45.600 every society
00:13:46.440 forever has always had
00:13:47.800 which is some
00:13:48.740 kind of standard,
00:13:50.780 you know.
00:13:51.060 I mean,
00:13:51.240 the real irony
00:13:52.380 of this of course
00:13:53.300 is that,
00:13:54.460 you know,
00:13:54.720 up until the middle
00:13:55.440 of the 20th century
00:13:56.440 every school
00:13:57.700 just about
00:13:58.380 taught the Bible
00:13:59.280 and banned pornography
00:14:00.640 and now,
00:14:01.980 now,
00:14:02.240 so many schools
00:14:03.260 teach pornography
00:14:03.960 and the one book
00:14:04.960 you are not allowed
00:14:05.820 to teach in school,
00:14:06.660 it's the only one,
00:14:07.560 you can teach
00:14:07.880 Mein Kampf,
00:14:08.860 you can teach
00:14:09.480 hardcore porn,
00:14:10.480 the one book
00:14:11.080 you can't teach
00:14:11.760 is the Bible.
00:14:13.020 So who's,
00:14:13.340 who's really doing
00:14:14.000 the banning here
00:14:14.740 and what sort of
00:14:15.220 banning are they doing?
00:14:16.520 It's a very good point
00:14:17.600 and the whole,
00:14:18.340 you know,
00:14:19.040 standards thing,
00:14:20.500 yeah,
00:14:20.840 they're,
00:14:21.080 they're definitely
00:14:21.580 trying to,
00:14:22.660 it feels like
00:14:23.840 they're trying
00:14:24.320 to lower the standards
00:14:25.580 every day,
00:14:26.780 lower and lower,
00:14:27.680 the bar gets
00:14:28.220 lower and lower
00:14:28.900 and you can't,
00:14:30.260 I mean,
00:14:30.620 the only thing
00:14:31.140 I can,
00:14:31.560 I can assume
00:14:32.240 is that they're,
00:14:32.960 they're just wanting
00:14:33.560 to normalize this stuff
00:14:35.000 so that kids,
00:14:35.860 their,
00:14:36.020 their inhibitions are,
00:14:37.260 honestly,
00:14:37.960 I have,
00:14:38.400 I personally feel like
00:14:39.240 they're trying to lower
00:14:39.940 the inhibitions
00:14:40.640 of,
00:14:41.340 of children
00:14:42.080 so that when they
00:14:43.080 are approached,
00:14:43.840 you know,
00:14:44.240 by traffickers,
00:14:46.720 any,
00:14:47.160 any kind of
00:14:48.080 attempt to,
00:14:50.920 I don't know,
00:14:52.620 I mean,
00:14:52.880 pedophilia seems to be,
00:14:54.520 they seem to be going
00:14:55.480 towards even
00:14:56.320 normalizing that.
00:14:57.860 There's,
00:14:58.120 there are books
00:14:58.840 in our libraries
00:14:59.880 that are,
00:15:00.940 have been,
00:15:01.380 I don't know
00:15:01.620 if they still are,
00:15:02.600 don't quote me on that,
00:15:03.680 but there have been
00:15:04.620 that,
00:15:05.300 that depict
00:15:06.060 all pedophilia,
00:15:07.720 you know,
00:15:08.060 LGBTQ,
00:15:08.960 gay sex,
00:15:10.340 and,
00:15:10.820 and I don't,
00:15:11.680 I don't care,
00:15:12.520 no sex,
00:15:13.620 sorry,
00:15:14.260 no sex,
00:15:14.980 neither book
00:15:15.500 that I read from
00:15:16.260 had anything to do
00:15:17.000 with the LGBTQ community
00:15:18.240 and that's another,
00:15:19.180 that's another criticism
00:15:21.160 that we get
00:15:21.920 is that we're just after,
00:15:23.140 you know,
00:15:23.480 this certain segment
00:15:24.800 of the population
00:15:25.500 and it's just not true.
00:15:27.420 When you say,
00:15:28.460 we don't,
00:15:28.980 we don't want books
00:15:30.280 about pederasty
00:15:31.120 in our schools,
00:15:31.740 they say,
00:15:32.000 how dare you,
00:15:32.500 that's homophobic.
00:15:33.840 Come on,
00:15:34.300 you're the one
00:15:36.560 who are a lot
00:15:37.340 of these two things.
00:15:38.320 But,
00:15:38.400 but of course,
00:15:39.320 you know,
00:15:40.120 Shannon,
00:15:40.500 I can,
00:15:40.740 I can see,
00:15:41.640 you almost don't even
00:15:42.720 want to say it,
00:15:43.720 you don't even want
00:15:44.180 to suggest
00:15:44.900 that maybe
00:15:46.220 these guys
00:15:46.840 are trying to
00:15:47.300 normalize pedophilia,
00:15:48.500 but of course,
00:15:49.200 we know that
00:15:49.640 they are doing that.
00:15:50.660 I mean,
00:15:50.860 there was a professor
00:15:51.860 who was caught
00:15:52.300 in a big scandal
00:15:53.000 because she was caught
00:15:53.920 on camera
00:15:54.540 trying to
00:15:55.600 normalize pedophilia
00:15:56.840 to change even
00:15:57.600 the word pedophile
00:15:58.460 to map
00:15:59.620 a minor attracted person,
00:16:01.680 to take away
00:16:02.420 the stigma
00:16:03.140 of this orientation
00:16:05.240 with which people
00:16:06.160 are born.
00:16:06.900 And you see this
00:16:07.780 going on
00:16:08.320 throughout the culture.
00:16:09.140 You're seeing
00:16:09.480 the normalization
00:16:10.140 of drag queen story hour.
00:16:11.660 What's that about?
00:16:12.160 It's about bringing
00:16:12.700 little kids
00:16:13.320 into sexual situations.
00:16:14.540 You're seeing
00:16:15.220 on that same
00:16:15.860 line of thought
00:16:17.280 drag kids,
00:16:19.280 these poor little kids
00:16:20.220 who are being
00:16:20.760 sexually abused
00:16:21.860 and who put on
00:16:23.100 little skimpy dances
00:16:24.400 and in multiple cases
00:16:26.780 have had grown men
00:16:28.200 put dollar bills
00:16:29.160 in their clothing.
00:16:30.140 I mean,
00:16:30.280 so this is not
00:16:30.860 something that you're
00:16:31.780 imagining in some
00:16:32.640 crazy fever dream.
00:16:33.640 This is happening.
00:16:34.520 It's being broadcast
00:16:35.160 on the mainstream media
00:16:36.480 and they tell us
00:16:37.980 on the one hand
00:16:38.720 this is not happening.
00:16:40.440 It's a delusion
00:16:41.200 of the far right.
00:16:42.440 And on the other hand,
00:16:43.100 they're saying
00:16:43.400 this is happening.
00:16:44.240 It's so wonderful
00:16:44.840 and you better celebrate it.
00:16:47.200 Yeah,
00:16:47.580 the celebration part
00:16:48.580 is where I have an issue.
00:16:49.780 You know,
00:16:49.960 a lot of people tell us,
00:16:50.980 especially if you're
00:16:51.920 a Christian,
00:16:52.380 if you're a believer,
00:16:53.160 we're to love everybody
00:16:54.140 and we are called
00:16:54.820 to love everybody.
00:16:56.100 But my definition
00:16:57.200 of love is not
00:16:58.240 encouraging
00:16:58.960 and celebrating
00:16:59.900 something that I think
00:17:00.920 is destructive
00:17:01.760 and evil.
00:17:03.540 So,
00:17:04.020 you know,
00:17:04.660 I think we need
00:17:05.140 to think twice
00:17:06.120 about what our definition
00:17:07.220 of love really is.
00:17:08.460 Of course.
00:17:08.660 And, you know,
00:17:09.220 the way you can really
00:17:10.280 prove the absolute
00:17:12.200 unprincipled character
00:17:14.540 of the arguments
00:17:15.580 that these people
00:17:16.240 are making
00:17:16.560 is try to put a book
00:17:18.860 into the school library
00:17:20.160 that says that LGBTism
00:17:22.860 is intrinsically disordered
00:17:24.460 and it's a grave mortal sin
00:17:25.760 and people should not do it.
00:17:27.420 And actually,
00:17:28.040 marriage is a union
00:17:28.840 between a man
00:17:30.160 and a woman
00:17:30.620 for life,
00:17:32.540 for the good of the spouses
00:17:33.440 and the sake of the generation
00:17:35.080 and education of children.
00:17:36.420 You,
00:17:36.980 not only would they
00:17:37.740 toss the book out,
00:17:38.660 they probably would
00:17:39.540 set it on fire
00:17:40.380 and they'd probably
00:17:41.240 come to your house
00:17:42.000 with a pitchfork
00:17:42.820 if you did that.
00:17:44.100 Absolutely.
00:17:45.040 Absolutely.
00:17:45.560 It's very hypocritical,
00:17:47.100 which, you know,
00:17:47.580 we saw in the video
00:17:49.080 and the hypocrisy is,
00:17:51.400 I don't know
00:17:52.000 how they don't see that.
00:17:53.020 I really don't know
00:17:53.580 how they don't see that.
00:17:55.240 I don't even know
00:17:55.680 if they see it now.
00:17:56.920 Of course.
00:17:57.480 No, of course.
00:17:58.200 And to them,
00:17:59.260 you know,
00:17:59.400 there's a good line
00:18:00.040 from the Harvard law professor
00:18:01.280 Adrian Vermeule.
00:18:02.420 He says,
00:18:02.800 it's not hypocrisy,
00:18:03.840 it's hierarchy.
00:18:04.480 They just think
00:18:05.980 that there's one set
00:18:06.880 of rules for you
00:18:07.660 and there's one set
00:18:08.580 of rules for us
00:18:09.440 and that's the way
00:18:10.340 that it goes.
00:18:11.180 Boy,
00:18:11.460 haven't we seen that
00:18:12.260 in the last several years?
00:18:13.460 Of course.
00:18:14.340 In many ways.
00:18:15.560 I mean,
00:18:15.800 I'm just so pleased
00:18:17.040 to hear that,
00:18:18.400 you know,
00:18:19.820 this is working
00:18:20.480 and that,
00:18:21.380 you know,
00:18:21.820 you're getting a couple
00:18:22.520 school board members
00:18:23.400 out there
00:18:23.800 and you're actually
00:18:24.940 doing what the libs
00:18:26.980 are very,
00:18:27.560 very good at
00:18:28.340 and conservatives
00:18:29.160 usually are not that good at.
00:18:30.460 Conservatives are very good
00:18:31.260 at complaining
00:18:31.860 and conservatives
00:18:33.040 are very good
00:18:33.760 at sort of winding
00:18:34.300 into a microphone.
00:18:35.500 You know,
00:18:35.980 I don't mean to diminish
00:18:37.960 my own profession here
00:18:39.040 but,
00:18:39.680 you know,
00:18:39.900 I think it's important
00:18:40.540 to shed light
00:18:41.060 on these things
00:18:41.720 but what the libs
00:18:43.620 are very good at
00:18:44.180 is going out
00:18:44.740 and running for office
00:18:45.600 and filling
00:18:46.520 the appointed positions
00:18:47.500 and turning the wheels
00:18:48.680 of government
00:18:49.240 not just at the federal level
00:18:50.800 but even all the way
00:18:51.980 down at the local level
00:18:53.140 which is where a lot
00:18:54.220 of these really important
00:18:55.460 rules are put into effect
00:18:58.000 and you're actually
00:18:59.000 doing that
00:18:59.680 and you're clearly
00:19:00.760 having results.
00:19:02.820 Well,
00:19:03.340 I hope so.
00:19:03.880 It seems slow going.
00:19:04.980 Like I said,
00:19:05.440 we've been struggling
00:19:06.620 with this in Frisco
00:19:07.660 for about a year
00:19:08.760 and they say
00:19:10.120 they're doing things
00:19:10.980 and they're really not
00:19:11.840 things that are
00:19:13.120 working at least
00:19:14.320 not very quickly.
00:19:16.320 We even appropriated
00:19:17.380 an additional
00:19:18.340 $450,000
00:19:19.740 last summer
00:19:20.900 the board did
00:19:22.000 of our taxpayer dollars
00:19:23.640 to get this,
00:19:25.340 you know,
00:19:25.520 get the mess cleaned up.
00:19:26.780 The mess that they
00:19:27.380 originally said
00:19:28.020 we didn't really have.
00:19:29.220 Right?
00:19:29.540 We didn't really have
00:19:30.140 the books in the library
00:19:30.880 at first
00:19:31.360 and then we only
00:19:32.480 had a couple
00:19:33.000 and then when it
00:19:34.100 became clear
00:19:34.640 that it was,
00:19:35.240 you know,
00:19:35.540 a problem
00:19:36.120 then they appropriated
00:19:38.160 all this extra money
00:19:39.020 to get rid of all the books
00:19:40.040 and they're still there.
00:19:41.400 That's why in my first video
00:19:42.800 I was like,
00:19:43.420 you know,
00:19:43.660 we're still,
00:19:44.780 still after all of this
00:19:46.040 we're still plagued
00:19:46.820 with these books
00:19:47.420 in our libraries
00:19:48.040 and there's just
00:19:48.520 no excuse for it.
00:19:49.360 You don't have to read.
00:19:50.620 At first you had to read
00:19:51.280 the entire book
00:19:52.100 before they would let,
00:19:53.120 before they would,
00:19:53.960 they would have a committee
00:19:54.680 read the entire book
00:19:55.780 before they could decide
00:19:57.100 whether or not
00:19:57.520 to remove it.
00:19:58.040 They couldn't just look
00:19:58.680 at that little excerpt
00:20:00.140 and say,
00:20:00.600 okay,
00:20:00.920 that's not good.
00:20:02.320 They had to read
00:20:02.720 the whole book.
00:20:03.260 So the timing,
00:20:03.960 I mean,
00:20:04.100 it was like 30 days
00:20:05.240 they had to get
00:20:06.540 the book reviewed
00:20:07.780 and in the meantime
00:20:08.500 it's still on the shelves
00:20:10.080 for the kids
00:20:10.640 to check out.
00:20:11.300 So I do think it's,
00:20:12.900 you know,
00:20:13.220 maybe I'm hoping
00:20:14.500 that the spotlight
00:20:15.820 that you and others
00:20:16.880 are putting on the district
00:20:18.760 will,
00:20:19.700 you know,
00:20:19.900 the public pressure
00:20:20.660 will hopefully
00:20:21.720 cause even more change
00:20:24.400 quicker.
00:20:26.040 I certainly hope so.
00:20:26.900 And then there's,
00:20:27.460 there's of course
00:20:28.860 a tipping point
00:20:29.760 which is right now,
00:20:31.060 you know,
00:20:31.700 the good guys
00:20:32.920 are in the minority
00:20:33.600 on the school board
00:20:34.440 but they've got
00:20:34.940 a representation
00:20:35.500 and maybe come May
00:20:36.800 you tip that
00:20:37.940 to the point
00:20:38.660 that the conservatives
00:20:39.260 control the school board
00:20:40.300 and that's when
00:20:41.360 we really see
00:20:42.040 things happen.
00:20:43.160 There was a report
00:20:44.440 I read recently,
00:20:45.680 it was a campaign
00:20:47.300 that was being run
00:20:48.220 by moms for liberty
00:20:49.440 but it was,
00:20:51.040 I forget the school district
00:20:52.640 that it was in
00:20:53.220 but in any case
00:20:54.840 the conservatives
00:20:55.400 took over the school board
00:20:56.380 within two hours.
00:20:57.840 They fired the superintendent,
00:20:59.300 they fired the district lawyer,
00:21:01.180 they banned critical race theory,
00:21:02.720 they banned the crazy
00:21:03.720 gender curricula.
00:21:04.580 This was within two hours.
00:21:05.800 What are they going to do
00:21:06.540 in two weeks?
00:21:07.240 What are they going to do
00:21:07.920 in two months?
00:21:09.200 I know,
00:21:09.540 I'm so excited to see,
00:21:10.520 I think that was,
00:21:11.080 was that South Carolina?
00:21:12.360 I think that was South Carolina.
00:21:13.260 Yes, it was Berkeley,
00:21:13.820 South Carolina, I think.
00:21:15.020 Yeah, I was very excited
00:21:16.320 to see that
00:21:16.740 and it, you know,
00:21:17.200 it gives you hope,
00:21:17.940 it gives you hope
00:21:18.460 when you're in a district
00:21:19.280 that's not quite there yet
00:21:20.340 going, oh gosh,
00:21:21.360 when we get there,
00:21:22.020 look at what we can do,
00:21:23.120 look at the changes
00:21:23.800 that we can make.
00:21:25.340 So, I mean,
00:21:25.840 I will say they have,
00:21:26.800 they have pulled,
00:21:27.640 you know,
00:21:27.860 some of these books,
00:21:28.440 it's just like pulling teeth
00:21:29.580 and it shouldn't be so hard.
00:21:31.040 It shouldn't be so hard
00:21:31.900 to pull complete depravity
00:21:34.320 and, you know,
00:21:35.800 porn,
00:21:36.720 sexually explicit material
00:21:37.840 off our school shelves.
00:21:39.300 It just,
00:21:39.560 it shouldn't be.
00:21:40.320 And shouldn't,
00:21:40.760 shouldn't be hard,
00:21:41.540 I mean,
00:21:41.760 forget the liberals,
00:21:42.740 you know,
00:21:43.100 I mean,
00:21:43.340 they've got their view
00:21:44.340 and we're just going to have
00:21:45.100 to beat them at the ballot box
00:21:46.320 and beat them with the wielding
00:21:48.020 of political power.
00:21:48.960 But even some of these squish,
00:21:51.120 quote unquote,
00:21:51.720 conservatives
00:21:52.260 and Republicans
00:21:53.340 who,
00:21:53.820 who just don't,
00:21:55.140 don't have any sense
00:21:55.980 of why this is a problem
00:21:57.060 and they don't want to deal
00:21:57.760 with the issue
00:21:58.320 and they want to look away
00:21:59.260 and they say,
00:21:59.980 oh,
00:22:00.020 that's a culture war distraction,
00:22:01.520 please,
00:22:01.880 let's just,
00:22:02.540 all I want to do
00:22:03.160 is talk about cutting taxes.
00:22:04.620 I love tax cuts,
00:22:05.540 but come on,
00:22:05.920 there's more to life than that.
00:22:06.980 And it seems that
00:22:07.960 the higher up you get in politics,
00:22:10.760 the,
00:22:11.020 the more disconnected
00:22:12.000 these people become.
00:22:13.180 And so,
00:22:13.660 I really do hope
00:22:14.900 that you stick around
00:22:16.320 the school district
00:22:16.960 for a little while,
00:22:17.900 you know,
00:22:18.160 keep this thing going,
00:22:19.120 get the job done.
00:22:20.080 But then,
00:22:20.800 I really hope,
00:22:21.860 Shannon,
00:22:22.300 people like you,
00:22:23.360 people like,
00:22:24.040 you know,
00:22:24.240 a couple of conservative members
00:22:25.320 of that school,
00:22:25.980 school board,
00:22:27.120 people like these moms
00:22:28.280 across America
00:22:29.160 who,
00:22:29.600 who are doing this,
00:22:31.880 just let me know
00:22:32.700 when you run for Congress,
00:22:33.760 let me know where to send
00:22:34.520 the check,
00:22:34.980 because I would be more
00:22:35.840 than happy to do it.
00:22:37.700 Thank you.
00:22:38.300 Thank you.
00:22:38.720 I don't know that running
00:22:39.600 is in my future.
00:22:40.460 I feel like I have a lot more,
00:22:41.780 I could do,
00:22:42.560 I can have a lot more impact
00:22:43.960 doing what I'm doing now.
00:22:46.400 So,
00:22:47.140 I have been,
00:22:47.780 I've been asked before
00:22:48.840 if I want to run
00:22:49.540 for school board.
00:22:50.260 I just think,
00:22:50.880 you know,
00:22:51.020 you put a budget
00:22:51.620 in front of me
00:22:52.180 and I'm just,
00:22:52.720 my eyes glaze over.
00:22:53.700 I don't want to deal with that.
00:22:54.400 You and me both.
00:22:55.620 Yeah,
00:22:55.980 I don't think I,
00:22:57.060 I don't think I'd be very,
00:22:58.120 I'd serve the public
00:22:59.120 very well in that capacity.
00:23:00.400 But,
00:23:01.080 you know,
00:23:01.880 right now,
00:23:02.340 I'm just working
00:23:03.100 with the County Citizens
00:23:04.020 Defending Freedom.
00:23:04.860 It's called CCDF.
00:23:06.400 Go to the website,
00:23:07.440 ccdfusa.com
00:23:08.840 and they definitely
00:23:10.060 are all about
00:23:10.960 taking action
00:23:11.780 at the local level
00:23:12.800 because that's where it's at.
00:23:14.020 Your local level
00:23:14.700 is where the real impact
00:23:16.480 that's going to make
00:23:17.480 a difference in your life
00:23:18.620 every day
00:23:19.180 is in your local school board,
00:23:21.480 city council,
00:23:22.200 mayor,
00:23:22.580 those kinds of elections
00:23:23.440 are the most important.
00:23:24.740 So.
00:23:25.100 Absolutely right.
00:23:25.940 Shannon,
00:23:26.180 keep up the good work.
00:23:27.240 Thank you for coming
00:23:28.120 on the Michael Wohl's show.
00:23:30.140 Thank you so much.
00:23:30.900 And I look forward
00:23:31.060 to seeing more.
00:23:32.100 Thanks for having me.
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