The Michael Knowles Show - Breaking： Biden Exits Presidential Race

00:00:00.000 Is politics ever going to allow us to have a peaceful Sunday afternoon again? I'm not so sure.

00:00:06.460 Breaking news, Joe Biden has dropped out of the 2024 presidential race.

00:00:12.440 Now, there are about a billion questions that go along with that. Will he remain president?

00:00:16.960 Who will the nominee be? Will Biden endorse a nominee? What happens now? How do we process

00:00:24.000 this information? We will get through all of it. But the big headline is Biden is out of the race.

00:00:31.020 He informed everyone through an image of a letter posted on his personal letterhead.

00:00:39.000 Notice, not White House letterhead, personal letterhead, Joseph R. Biden Jr. on X.

00:00:46.580 Now, just the method of making this news raises a lot of eyebrows.

00:00:53.200 We have not seen Joe Biden for a little while now. Don't forget, Joe Biden is quarantining

00:00:58.280 ostensibly because he has a case of COVID-19. The president, who said that he's vigorous,

00:01:05.700 he can withstand all the challenges. He's been saying now for weeks and weeks and months and

00:01:09.420 months and years and years that he is going to run for reelection. All of a sudden, he disappears

00:01:13.520 because he came down with a mild cold. So we haven't seen from Biden. We haven't heard from Biden.

00:01:19.680 Does Joe Biden even know that he tweeted out his dropping out of the race? I'm only half joking

00:01:26.180 when I ask that. Well, here's what he said. My fellow Americans, over the past three and a half

00:01:32.700 years, we have made great progress as a nation. Today, America has the strongest economy in the

00:01:36.860 world. We've made historic investments in rebuilding our nation and lowering prescription

00:01:40.480 drug costs for seniors and an expanding affordable health care to a record number of Americans.

00:01:45.740 Well, I won't take issue with Biden's lies and exaggerations here because he half the time

00:01:51.700 probably doesn't even know he's lying anymore. And that's not really the point. He's opening up with

00:01:56.080 all of his supposed accomplishments, but let's get to the meat of it. We have provided critically

00:02:00.320 needed care to a million veterans exposed to toxic substances, passed the first gun safety law in 30

00:02:04.140 years, appointed the first African-American woman to the Supreme Court, and passed the most significant

00:02:07.700 climate legislation in the history of the world. America's never been better positioned to lead than we

00:02:11.520 are today. Yeah, sure, man. Who are you trying to convince, Joe? I know none of this could have

00:02:16.200 been done without you, the American people. Together, we overcame a once-in-a-century pandemic

00:02:19.880 and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Uh-huh, here we go. Again and again,

00:02:23.820 all the excuses as to why things aren't good right now, but you have to believe that they're good

00:02:28.760 because Joe Biden tells you so. We've protected and preserved our democracy, capital D. He's starting to

00:02:33.500 pick up the Trump tick of capitalizing random words. We've revitalized and strengthened our

00:02:40.240 alliances around the world. It's been the greatest honor of my life to serve as your president.

00:02:44.680 Here we go. And while it has been my intention to seek re-election, I believe it is in the best

00:02:51.440 interest of my party and the country for me to stand down and focus solely on fulfilling my duties

00:02:58.360 as president for the remainder of my term. Hold on. Hold on.

00:03:04.780 Now, you're telling me that you cannot run for re-election. You're telling me, Joe Biden,

00:03:13.460 that you are now too frail, too senile, too far gone with dementia to run for re-election,

00:03:23.220 but you're going to continue to serve as president? It's a very strange line there.

00:03:29.460 I believe it's in the best interest of my party. I intended to seek re-election. I want to seek

00:03:35.220 re-election, but I can't do it. So now I'm going to focus solely on fulfilling my duties as president

00:03:41.200 for the remainder of the term. Call me naive. I thought it was harder to be president than to

00:03:48.640 run for president. I thought it was harder to lead the United States, the hegemonic superpower in the

00:03:56.480 world, maintain the world order, make sure that our economy is still churning. Biden hasn't done

00:04:02.500 a good job of that. Protect our national security. Biden hasn't done a good job of that. Run the

00:04:07.060 whole country. I thought that was harder than just campaigning. Biden doesn't even really need

00:04:10.840 to campaign, as we saw in 2020 when he barely did. So how is it that Joe Biden has enough vigor,

00:04:17.900 energy, and mental acuity to remain the president for the rest of July, August, September, October,

00:04:25.760 November? Don't forget the elections in November, but he's still going to be president through

00:04:29.160 December and January. This guy who is so senile that he can't run for re-election is going to

00:04:35.160 remain president for seven more months while we face the first major war in Europe since World War II,

00:04:40.980 while we face increasing threats from China on Taiwan, on US interests in Taiwan.

00:04:49.400 As we face the outbreak of war in the Middle East, there had been relative peace in the Middle East

00:04:54.240 under President Trump, who had the historic Abraham Accord signed.

00:04:57.580 Then you have a major outbreak of war in the Middle East, a war not just between Israel and Gaza,

00:05:03.200 but also involving Iran, also involving all sorts of regional interests.

00:05:07.080 And you're telling me that for seven more months, the better part of a year, this guy who wants

00:05:14.520 desperately to run for president, as he tells you, he's like, I really, really want to run for

00:05:17.800 re-election. But I'm just not up to the task. But I can be your president for more than half a year.

00:05:25.360 Biden's going to have to answer for that. But he's not going to answer right now because he's

00:05:29.940 making his declaration via letter posted on Twitter, posted on X. He addresses this.

00:05:37.640 He says, I will speak to the nation, capital N nation. Again, weird capitalization here.

00:05:42.000 I will speak to the nation later this week in more detail about my decision.

00:05:48.020 For now, let me express my deepest gratitude to all those who have worked so hard to see me re-elected.

00:05:52.860 I want to thank Vice President Kamala Harris for being an extraordinary partner in all this work.

00:05:56.680 And let me express my heartfelt appreciation to the American people for the faith and trust you

00:06:00.160 have placed in me. I believe today what I always have. There is nothing America can't do.

00:06:04.640 When we do it together, we just have to remember we're the United States of America, Joe Biden.

00:06:07.680 So this letter reads to me like a much less eloquent and less poignant version of the letter that

00:06:15.180 Ronald Reagan wrote to America when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease.

00:06:19.840 That was a beautiful letter saying, America's best days lie ahead of us. And it's the honor of my life.

00:06:25.100 And I move into the sunset of my life. The difference, though, is when Ronald Reagan wrote that letter,

00:06:30.420 he was already out of office. He was retiring from public life entirely.

00:06:38.180 And he was acknowledging that he was losing his mental faculties. Biden, writing his own less

00:06:44.660 eloquent version of that letter, is promising to remain president for another seven months. Very

00:06:51.620 scary stuff. And we won't hear from him until later this week. What on earth could justify that?

00:06:58.240 This is some real historic stuff.

00:07:03.940 We haven't seen an incumbent not run for re-election since, I guess it would be Lyndon

00:07:09.540 Johnson, right? And Lyndon Johnson didn't say, I will not seek nor will I accept my party's

00:07:15.100 nomination for president because he was losing his mind. The reason he dropped out of that race was

00:07:21.140 because the Vietnam War was damaging his poll numbers too much and he couldn't win.

00:07:24.780 And he came out, right? He said, look, I'm just, I'll finish my term. But he didn't post a letter

00:07:31.640 on Twitter, that's for sure. He came out and said it in his own voice on TV.

00:07:38.760 What could possibly justify Biden waiting until the end of this week to explain his decision?

00:07:47.440 Is he really going to tell us this is about COVID? The reason that the president after years of

00:07:55.320 saying, I will run for re-election, just including up to just days ago, is now making a 180 and saying

00:08:02.820 he won't run for re-election, but he's not going to talk to anybody and nobody can see him and nobody

00:08:06.440 can hear from him directly because he has a mild cold that everyone has had probably several times

00:08:13.540 over the last four years. I don't buy that. That is bogus. The reason that Biden can't address the

00:08:22.680 nation until later this week, it can only be one of two things. Either he's just not up to it.

00:08:30.800 The guy that we saw at that disastrous debate, the guy who could barely speak,

00:08:35.340 is the guy that we're looking at now and he's just not able to do it. Or he doesn't want to.

00:08:41.520 We know that for weeks now, since that disastrous debate on June 27th, I think it was,

00:08:49.200 there have been calls, increasing calls in the Democrat Party for Biden to drop out.

00:08:54.720 And he's resisted them. He says, no, I'm the man. I'm getting the job done. It's me.

00:09:00.520 And then you saw, it wasn't just a random politician or two. Then it was George Clooney

00:09:04.660 who just headlined the biggest fundraiser in Democratic Party history, raised something like

00:09:08.380 $28 million for the Democrats and specifically for Joe Biden. And Clooney came out and at least

00:09:16.280 was said to have authored an op-ed in the New York Times. I'm not convinced that George Clooney can

00:09:19.940 read or write, but his name was right there in the byline guest essay in the New York Times.

00:09:25.000 George Clooney, I love Joe Biden, but we need a new nominee. And there have been rumors now for

00:09:30.520 at least several days that big top head honchos in the Democratic Party have been calling for Joe

00:09:37.180 to step down. Barack Obama has been reported to be pushing this. Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority

00:09:45.460 leader has been reported to have turned on Biden. And then when reporters like Jonathan Carl from ABC

00:09:52.960 approached Schumer's office about the Schumer's office, Schumer's office didn't even deny it.

00:09:59.120 Pelosi, Hakeem Jeffries, everybody, everybody in the Democratic establishment

00:10:04.040 has turned on Biden in recent days. Still, if you watched the Michael Knowles show on Thursday or

00:10:11.140 Friday, I said, look, obviously they're creating the conditions according to which Biden basically can't

00:10:19.580 keep running. They're playing a game of chicken. But I would have bet a small amount of money

00:10:24.620 that Biden was going to stick it out, that Biden was going to tell them all to pound sand and stay

00:10:28.800 in the race. It takes a big man. It takes a big, handsome, swarthy man to admit that he was wrong,

00:10:36.420 except the bizarre way that Biden has made this announcement. It makes you wonder,

00:10:41.740 was I wrong? Does Biden know this has happened yet?

00:10:45.780 All we know about this decision is what we see posted on Twitter. And we know for a fact,

00:10:51.940 Joe Biden doesn't write his own tweets. Trump writes his own tweets and X posts and truth social

00:10:56.980 posts. And we know that Trump is glued to that phone. And we know just as surely that Biden does

00:11:03.260 not. So we have this letter. And I mentioned earlier, the letter is written on personal letterhead.

00:11:10.640 It's not written on White House letterhead. Why is that? I think the reason for that is because

00:11:14.740 Biden is speaking as a candidate for president, not as the president. He's trying to walk this line

00:11:20.560 whereby he will not run for reelection, but continue to serve out his full term. This man does not want

00:11:28.500 to go down in history as not even having been able to fulfill a full term. If this were on White House

00:11:34.980 letterhead, it would drive home the point even more. And I think it's already in people's minds.

00:11:41.340 How can the guy be so bad off that he can't run, but he's well enough to continue to serve?

00:11:49.160 So that's the breaking news. There is more breaking news on top of that,

00:11:53.740 which is that Biden has endorsed Kamala Harris. Now, what does that mean? What does that mean

00:12:01.160 for the nominating fight that will now take place over the course of, I don't know, a month?

00:12:08.900 Really less than a month, right? The Democratic National Convention kicks off, I think it's August

00:12:14.200 18th. It's middle to end of August. But there's a wrinkle in that too, because there are state

00:12:21.220 deadlines to get on the ballot. So the parties need to tell certain states, notably Ohio, who the

00:12:26.700 nominee is before the Democratic National Convention. The Democrats have pushed their convention so far

00:12:32.100 in the year that they are now running into legal problems for ballot access.

00:12:38.560 So back when Biden was the ostensible nominee, there was talk of virtually nominating Biden

00:12:44.660 before the DNC. And so the DNC would just be a show. It would just be theatrics. You'd go there and

00:12:52.060 it would be rather undemocratic. There would be no question about where the delegates would go.

00:12:58.060 There would be no question about fights on the floor. It just would be, Biden would already be

00:13:02.860 the nominee before the convention. What will the Democrats do now? Will they follow Joe Biden

00:13:09.440 and make Kamala Harris their nominee for 2024? And then will they virtually nominate her before

00:13:18.320 the DNC? So there's not even an opportunity for an open convention, not even an opportunity for a

00:13:22.500 floor flight? That sounds like Joe Biden now, for a floor fight.

00:13:28.060 Peter Piper pecked a pick of pickled peppers. My fellow Democrats, writes Joe Biden,

00:13:33.300 I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as president

00:13:38.060 for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to

00:13:42.420 pick Kamala Harris as my vice president, and it's been the best decision I've made. Today,

00:13:47.200 I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year.

00:13:52.440 Democrats, it's time to come together and beat Trump. Let's do this.

00:13:55.440 And then it's a picture of Joe and Kamala.

00:14:00.680 Joe obviously didn't write this. I would be real surprised if he felt this. I strongly suspect Joe

00:14:07.160 Biden detests Kamala Harris because Kamala Harris ran against him in 2020, and pretty much her entire

00:14:13.360 campaign was calling Joe Biden a racist. During the brief appearance of Kamala Harris in the 2020

00:14:20.340 Democratic primaries, Kamala leveled a really nasty attack at Joe Biden, who's a nasty man. So

00:14:26.960 you love to see it happen. But she leveled this nasty attack. She said, Joe Biden opposed busing.

00:14:34.820 Little black girls who wanted to go to good schools had to get on a bus and go cross town,

00:14:40.420 and Joe Biden opposed that. And Joe, I was one of those little girls. You racist. You racist Joe Biden.

00:14:45.300 And Biden fended off the attack, and then Kamala Harris got out. So then this raises another

00:14:50.760 question. Hold on. Kamala Harris is now going to be, if Joe Biden has this way, the presidential

00:15:01.020 nominee of the Democratic Party without ever having received a single vote while running in a Democrat

00:15:09.120 primary. Kamala Harris dropped out of the 2020 race before the primaries. That's how poorly she ran.

00:15:20.020 Now, she still received some votes. I looked this up because I suppose she was already on the ballot

00:15:25.480 in at least a few places. So how many votes did Kamala Harris receive in the 2020 Democrat primary?

00:15:32.280 She'd already dropped out before the primary. 844. To be clear, that's not 844 delegates.

00:15:42.040 844 delegates to go to the convention to try to do it. No, no, no. It's 844 votes, period.

00:15:49.740 I may very well have received more votes in presidential elections than Kamala Harris did in

00:15:56.060 2020. I'm not sure. I don't want to presume that people wrote me in, but 844 is nobody. Do you know

00:16:04.100 who got more votes than Kamala Harris in the 2020 Democratic primaries? Julian Castro. Remember him?

00:16:13.120 Probably not. Marianne Williamson, the woo-woo new age guru gal. Cory Booker.

00:16:20.460 John Delaney. You remember John Delaney? No, of course you don't. Andrew Yang, Michael Bennett,

00:16:26.180 Deval Patrick, Tom Stott. Look at all these guys. Hold on. I want to actually, I want to issue a

00:16:31.860 correction. That's not fair. Those guys did not drop out before the primary. They stayed in the

00:16:37.100 primary. So now I can't be certain that they got more votes because you have to stay into the

00:16:44.480 primaries to even count how many delegates you're going to get. So no delegates.

00:16:50.460 Never got a single vote while she was running in a primary. Now, all of a sudden, she's going to be

00:16:55.760 the nominee. The woman who only slightly edged out Steve Bullock for just raw votes in the primary

00:17:05.320 came in just a little bit ahead of Joe Sestak, Wayne Messam, and Beto O'Rourke. She's going to be

00:17:14.140 the nominee for president. Doesn't seem very democratic, does it?

00:17:20.460 Then on top of that, you have to wonder if the delegates are going to follow Biden. So

00:17:26.520 just from a nuts and bolts political operations perspective, now that Biden has dropped out of

00:17:32.480 the race, all of Biden's delegates, which is to say all the delegates, are no longer bound to him.

00:17:38.700 They can follow his lead and vote for Kamala Harris, but they don't have to. They're not bound to follow

00:17:47.140 the lead of the person that he endorses. So probably many of them would, probably the vast majority of

00:17:53.540 them would go with Kamala Harris because they like Joe and for party unity or for whatever,

00:18:00.340 but they don't have to. So is this going to go to the convention and we're going to have a floor fight?

00:18:07.320 I don't know. I don't know. Or they might virtually nominate her. Is Joe Biden going to give us any

00:18:12.060 guidance on this? Maybe he'll give us some guidance if he addresses the nation later this week,

00:18:18.280 if he's up to it, if he knows that he dropped out. President Trump has responded. We have President

00:18:24.740 Trump's Truth Social post. Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for president and is certainly not

00:18:31.060 fit to serve and never was. He only attained the position of president by lies, fake news,

00:18:36.620 and not leaving his basement. All those around him, including his doctor and the media,

00:18:42.160 knew that he wasn't capable of being president, and he wasn't. And now look what he's done to our

00:18:46.680 country with millions of people coming across our border, totally unchecked and unvetted, many from

00:18:51.060 prisons, mental institutions, and record numbers of terrorists. We will suffer greatly because of

00:18:56.400 his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. Make America great again.

00:19:03.400 This is a great post, very Trumpy. You probably could have closed your eyes and just, if I said,

00:19:10.300 guess what Trump said in response to Biden's dropping out, you could have composed something

00:19:14.300 similar to this post. But what's so important about it is that first part.

00:19:21.060 He is not fit to serve. He never was. He only attained the position of president by lies,

00:19:26.420 fake news, and not leaving his basement. As I was driving over to the studio as the news broke,

00:19:32.960 I tuned in to some of the establishment network news coverage. I tried to do that as little as

00:19:39.120 I possibly can, but I thought, all right, let's see how the liberal establishment hacks are covering

00:19:44.020 this. And what I heard, oh my goodness, CBS News brought on a guest. And all of a sudden,

00:19:51.020 you've been hearing from the establishment that it's been trying to kick Joe out ever since Joe

00:19:54.260 failed at the debate and made them look all foolish and made them look like the liars that they are for

00:19:58.440 covering up for his obvious senility by pretending it was the return of a childhood stutter. And it was

00:20:02.980 a nasty fight. But now that Joe dropped out and he did what they wanted, now it's all sunshine and

00:20:08.300 roses again. So one of the guests they brought on to give his expert analysis, some rando, I have no

00:20:14.420 idea who it was. He said, this is a great personal sacrifice from Joe Biden. This dropping out of the

00:20:20.980 race is an act of great personal sacrifice. I suppose that's true if Biden did it willingly,

00:20:25.900 if he even knows that he did it. But it's not a sacrifice that he did willingly. He did everything

00:20:32.740 he possibly could to hold on to that nomination in 2024. It was only after weeks of pretty much

00:20:39.980 every Democrat in the country, something like three dozen lawmakers, among others, coming out

00:20:46.420 against him and a failed assassination attempt against his rival that he finally got out of the

00:20:52.000 race. They tried everything, okay? They tried every single thing that they possibly could to hold on to

00:20:56.300 power. Then and only then did he say, okay, I'm not going to run again. And this guy, this hack,

00:21:02.740 CBS News said, he's ending his presidency with a great personal sacrifice just as he began it with

00:21:08.800 a great personal sacrifice. Because Joe Biden said he didn't want to run in 2020. He only did it,

00:21:14.140 he came out of retirement because Donald Trump called Nazis fine people at Charlottesville,

00:21:19.620 which was a total lie as even Snopes and other liberal outlets now admit. And so he did,

00:21:24.920 he had to do it. It was a great personal sacrifice. Oh, that's old Joe, you know? Just what a guy.

00:21:31.560 It's a gold, old sacrifice Joe, that's what they called him. Joe Biden, who had been running for

00:21:37.260 president since 1988. Joe Biden, who was elected to the Senate before he was old enough to serve in

00:21:43.060 the US Senate. Joe Biden, who has been salivating at the prospect of being the president of the United

00:21:47.280 States since he was in the womb. Oh yeah, no, he ran this time. It was just a, it was a real personal

00:21:52.600 sacrifice for him. Give me a break. What are you talking about? The guy ran unsuccessfully multiple

00:21:59.900 times. Obama picked him to be the VP. He wanted to run in 16. Hillary edged him out. He didn't run.

00:22:09.180 And then he runs in 2020 and he, and he fails. I do think there is some poetry to the way that,

00:22:15.980 that Biden's campaign is ending. It's, it's ending with him having never accomplished anything

00:22:21.720 because Joe Biden has never been a conviction politician. I always, it's, it is overstated that

00:22:28.620 there's two kinds of people in this world, but it's, it's a helpful way to look at politics.

00:22:31.800 There are two kinds of politicians, conviction politicians, politicians who have a political

00:22:35.940 vision, who believe in something, who want to effect some kind of change in the political order

00:22:41.940 and convenience politicians, the politicians who don't really believe anything. They're empty

00:22:46.980 suits. They just want to have a library named after them. Maybe, maybe get a post office named

00:22:50.400 after them and get to sit in the Oval Office and be the thing. The former want to do something.

00:22:56.220 The latter want to be something. And Biden, whether you like Biden or whether you hate Biden,

00:23:01.940 I think you have to admit has always been the latter. He's flipped his position on just about every,

00:23:07.300 everything he's ever even purported to believe. He he's, he's just a guy who really wanted to be

00:23:13.320 the president. And so he's devoted now the majority of his life to national politics.

00:23:20.160 The guy got his first political job, a local political job, the Newcastle County Council in 1970.

00:23:27.620 Very quickly, I think he's elected to the U S Senate in 1972. He remained in the Senate until 2009

00:23:34.920 when he became the vice president, remained the vice president. I think I remember the

00:23:39.400 chronology of Joe Biden's political career much better than he does. He remained the vice president

00:23:43.260 until 2016. He gets out, lays low for four years and runs for president. So he's been almost,

00:23:49.540 thank you, sir. Producers are running in all sorts of notes and breaking information,

00:23:57.260 which I'll ignore for right now while I continue on my rant. He was president until,

00:24:01.000 or rather he ran for president in 2020. So he's been in it his whole life and he's never pointed

00:24:06.100 to the point to the accomplishment. What's the thing he did? Nothing. It was all just a waste of

00:24:11.660 time. And now the indignity, he's got to go out. He's going to try to claw onto power to at least

00:24:18.060 finish out his, his term, his one term. And he's got to go out and he's going to pick this other gal

00:24:22.860 who also doesn't believe in anything, Kamala Harris. But he has no way of, of insisting the party

00:24:30.020 goes along with it. And as of now, none of us has any reason to believe that he actually is

00:24:36.720 personally acquiescing to dropping out. Don't forget July 5th, we have a clear declaration

00:24:43.320 from Joe Biden that he is staying in this race.

00:24:52.020 You voted for me to be your nominee. No one else. You, the votes, the voters did that.

00:24:59.100 And despite, despite that some folks don't seem to care who you voted for, well, guess what?

00:25:05.560 They're trying to push me out of the race. Well, let me say this clearly as I can. I'm staying in

00:25:11.780 the race. I'll beat Donald Trump. I will beat him again in 2020. Let me say this as clearly as I can.

00:25:21.020 And you can trust this statement just as much as you can trust anything I've ever said.

00:25:24.800 I am staying in this race. Five seconds later. No, I'm not. Sorry. I lied to you again.

00:25:32.800 He sits down two weeks ago with George Stephanopoulos, the establishment propagandist

00:25:38.880 of establishment propagandists, a man who plays an objective news anchor on ABC News,

00:25:43.980 but who of course was the head of Bill Clinton's war room in the White House,

00:25:47.040 the White House communications director, a Democrat propagandist for his whole career.

00:25:50.720 He sits down, Stephanopoulos voicing the concerns and anxieties of the liberal

00:25:56.000 established and saying, hey man, you got to get out. Biden again, defiant.

00:26:01.600 If you can be convinced that you cannot defeat Donald Trump, will you stand down?

00:26:09.220 With the fans of, unless the Lord Almighty comes out and tells me that I might do that.

00:26:13.380 Well, I mean, on a more practical level, Washington Post just reported in the last hour

00:26:18.040 that Senator Mark Warner is assembling a group of senators together to try and convince you to stand

00:26:23.440 down because they don't think you can win.

00:26:25.660 Well, Mark is a good man. We've never had that. He also tried to get the nomination too.

00:26:31.580 Mark's not. Mark and I have a different perspective. I respect him.

00:26:35.940 And if Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi come down and say,

00:26:42.560 we're worried that if you stay in the race, we're going to lose the House and the Senate,

00:26:46.960 how will you respond?

00:26:48.560 I go into detail with them. I've spoken to all of them in detail, including Jim Clyburn.

00:26:54.580 Every one of them, they all said I should stay in the race.

00:26:58.440 They've all said I should stay in the race publicly, even though privately they were undermining

00:27:03.140 me the whole time. And now maybe I'm acquiescing. The final straw or the penultimate straw was when

00:27:08.940 Biden did an interview with BET. And here was the first time that Biden started to open up,

00:27:16.840 crack the door just a little bit to an off ramp.

00:27:23.320 Is there anything that you would look to, you personally, not anybody else, not other pundits,

00:27:28.540 not even perhaps family members, that you would look to to say, if I see that, I will re-evaluate?

00:27:36.980 If there had some medical condition that emerged, if somebody, if the doctors came to me and said,

00:27:41.140 you got this problem, that problem. But I made a serious mistake in the whole debate.

00:27:47.540 And, uh, and look, when I originally ran, you may remember it, I said I was going to be a transitional

00:27:53.700 candidate. And I thought that I'd be able to move from this, just pass it on to someone else.

00:27:59.680 But I didn't anticipate things getting so, so, so divided. And quite frankly, I think

00:28:06.760 the only thing age brings a little bit of wisdom. And I think I've demonstrated that I know how to

00:28:13.200 get things done for the country, in spite of the fact that we're told we couldn't get it done.

00:28:18.740 But there's more to do. And I'm reluctant to walk away from that.

00:28:21.960 There's more to do. I'm reluctant to walk away from this. Look, I said I would be a transitional

00:28:26.440 candidate, right? That's, that's opening the door. But there's more to do. I didn't know how divided

00:28:30.820 it would be. It got divided under my watch. Oopsie daisy. But, but it's so divided now that I can't

00:28:36.040 walk away. I'm reluctant to walk, but never reluctant to walk away. Not, I'm not going to walk away.

00:28:39.920 It's, I'm reluctant. I don't, if I were diagnosed with a medical condition, then conveniently five

00:28:45.320 seconds later, they muzzle Biden with chloroform and say, yeah, he's got COVID. Yeah. Anyway,

00:28:50.600 we're going to take him to a row with beach. Nobody look for him. We, he's okay. He's, he's

00:28:54.680 quarantining. Just watch his Twitter account. Then very convenient timing. And then he comes out and

00:29:02.460 endorses Kamala Harris. So I have joining me now, Charlie Spearing, author of Amateur Hour,

00:29:08.280 Kamala Harris in the White House, a man who picked a really, I was going to say really great subject

00:29:15.740 for a book. Actually, it's a really awful subject for a book, but I, I hope and expect that he's now

00:29:20.480 going to make a lot of money because all of a sudden this woman really could end up in the White

00:29:25.140 House. Charlie, thank you for coming on. You bet, Michael. Thanks for having me. What a, what an

00:29:30.240 afternoon. So is Kamala actually going to get the nomination? Biden endorses her. He has no way of

00:29:38.300 forcing his delegates to go along with it. Are we really going to end up with this lady as the

00:29:43.080 democratic nominee? Well, it's interesting that you haven't really heard a resounding

00:29:48.480 declaration of support around Kamala Harris, even though I do suspect that she will be the ultimate

00:29:53.720 nominee right now. You're going to have a lot of donors fighting behind the scenes, especially the

00:29:59.260 ones that don't want to see Kamala Harris become the head of the democratic party. There's, there

00:30:03.840 will be a little, a few conversations behind the scenes, trying to make, trying to open up the

00:30:09.380 process to allow another candidate to come in. But from the very beginning, it's the, it's the way

00:30:14.540 this has been set up. This is why Joe Biden was running for reelection in the first place, because

00:30:19.180 Kamala Harris was not ready to run. Kamala Harris wasn't popular. She wasn't resonating with voters.

00:30:24.100 Democrats don't necessarily all rally around her. So this is the reason why he was running for

00:30:29.040 reelection in the first place. And now they're stuck with the ultimate doom scenario. Well, we will,

00:30:34.140 we will see what we will be unburdened by what has been or whatever that word salad that Kamala

00:30:39.040 frequently repeats. Uh, we, we will see that. Of course, Kamala has a big advantage here, which is

00:30:44.900 that she's already part of the ticket. She's already part of the campaign apparatus. So presumably it

00:30:50.020 would be easier for her than for say a Gavin Newsom or a Michelle Obama, as some Democrats are

00:30:55.860 fantasizing about, uh, to move into that, to that position. Exactly. So exactly. Take a look at,

00:31:02.160 uh, Obama. He's a long time Kamala Harris supporter. So I fully expect him to back Kamala Harris.

00:31:07.520 The Clintons just came out with a tweet. They endorsed Kamala Harris. So she's already on the

00:31:11.740 fast track to seizing, seizing the mantle here. Do you think the Democrats are going to push back at

00:31:16.280 all given that they're, they're supposedly the democratic party? And yet Kamala Harris has never

00:31:22.420 received a single vote, uh, much less a, uh, a delegate while she was running in a Democrat

00:31:29.360 primary, not one vote. Yes. I'm adding you'll see some grumbling. There may be a movement within

00:31:35.180 the democratic party. Hey, let's open up this nomination. Let's bring it to the convention.

00:31:39.340 The Democrats hate that because that means that there's, that'll be an unexpected chaotic convention.

00:31:45.140 That's the last thing they want to do right now. What's interesting. Watch Nancy Pelosi. She's not,

00:31:50.460 she's not a big Kamala Harris fan. She knows Kamala Harris. She's worked with her in California,

00:31:56.000 not a huge fan. So it'll be interesting to see whether Pelosi endorses Kamala or whether she gets

00:32:01.120 on board with the idea of an open convention. So the question then is, can she really run? I mean,

00:32:06.820 I, I thought even as of Thursday or Friday, I would have bet, as I said, a small amount of money

00:32:13.120 that Biden sticks it out and stays in the race. If for no other reason, then he had no incentive

00:32:18.400 really to get out. And the other candidates weren't polling better than him. You know,

00:32:23.700 there, there was an A plus poll that came out just a few days ago that showed that Kamala would lose

00:32:29.240 to Trump, that Gavin Newsom would lose to Trump by a lot. And even Michelle Obama, the fantasy

00:32:34.680 candidate who I don't think, I don't think she wants to run. I don't think that anybody really

00:32:39.100 wants to vote for her. Even she was tied with Trump. So if I'm Biden and look at that, I think,

00:32:44.800 look, I drop out that it doesn't even give the Democrats a much better odds to win. Does Kamala

00:32:50.460 Harris have what it takes to beat Trump? Well, I think that the Trump campaign has said this over

00:32:56.800 the weekend. They said, we fully expect the mainstream media to give Kamala another chance

00:33:01.360 to make the reboot. And this is what she's already been preparing to do on the campaign trail.

00:33:05.500 Look, I've been watching her campaign events. They're very scripted. They're very disciplined.

00:33:10.100 She's no longer sort of the, the laughing, cackling candidate that people are used to as vice

00:33:16.080 president. She's really focused on, on being absolutely perfect, absolutely scripted. But

00:33:22.520 that's the problem is someone who is that scripted, can they even connect with voters and voters don't

00:33:28.360 have enough? They haven't, even the democratic voters haven't warmed up to her in the first three

00:33:33.840 years. Who's going to say that in the next few months, they'll suddenly, suddenly, uh, you know,

00:33:38.900 fall in love with her. It's really going to take a long time for, for democratic voters to get,

00:33:43.900 as they're saying now, coconut pilled. If you support Kamala Harris, you're coconut pilled. You

00:33:49.560 heard AOC mentioned that on Thursday. So get your coconuts ready. Let's go.

00:33:55.140 So I feel somewhat vindicated years ago when she, before she even decided to run in the 2020 race,

00:34:00.840 I said, this woman has an uncanny ability to rise up the ladder of politics. And so I said, I keep

00:34:09.380 your eyes on Kamala Harris. And everyone was talking about all sorts of other candidates. I said, keep

00:34:12.840 your eyes on Kamala. Uh, and then she dropped out before the primaries and I started to question

00:34:17.900 myself. I said, wow, did I really misjudge that? Then she got the VP pick. I thought, oh no, I didn't

00:34:22.160 misjudge that. She's, she's a good careerist. And now amazingly, she, she is within inches of becoming

00:34:29.860 the democratic nominee for president in 2024, just three months before the general election.

00:34:35.020 Uh, some people have pointed out that her rise in politics has been somewhat disreputable.

00:34:41.140 Perhaps, uh, there are all sorts of stories about how she got her start in politics. I'm not going

00:34:45.560 to get into it. This is a family show. Uh, however, that the conservative media, at least maybe,

00:34:51.840 maybe even some of the, uh, honest brokers in the, the independent media will point out that this woman

00:34:59.600 has a little bit of a dodgy political past. Do you think, for instance, the name Willie Brown is

00:35:05.420 going to come up? I mean, do you, do you think that the early days of Kamala's political career

00:35:09.500 are going to come back to haunt her in any, uh, substantial way over the next three months?

00:35:15.300 Yeah, absolutely. And look, the Kamala Harris and her team do not want ever want to talk about

00:35:20.600 Willie Brown. She's tried to bury him for years, for decades, but she's been trying to move

00:35:24.760 her political career forward. But look, there's a huge part for those who don't know, Charlie,

00:35:30.040 I, you know, I suspect a lot of the audience knows, but would you maybe give a little introduction

00:35:33.800 to Willie Brown? Sure. Willie Brown was the, was running as mayor of San Francisco when he first

00:35:39.860 started dating Kamala Harris, Willie Brown, 60 years old, Kamala Harris is 29. Willie Brown is

00:35:45.680 still married, but estranged from his wife. So Willie and Kamala have this year long relationship

00:35:51.320 where they, she, he parades her around as a, as a potential steady girlfriend and to all the high

00:35:59.460 society people and donors and voters in San Francisco really helping you and, and even offering

00:36:06.860 her some high paid positions in state government, um, that paid her a good deal of money. So there

00:36:12.780 would be no Kamala Harris without Willie Brown. He really put her on the stage and set her up for

00:36:17.400 her start. Do you think it becomes an issue or do you think the establishment media just

00:36:21.980 successfully bury it? Oh, the establishment media is done with Willie Brown because the vice president's

00:36:27.820 office is furious. Anytime someone tries to make that part of the story, but you're going to see

00:36:32.640 conservative media talk about it and people should be talking about it. And that's why,

00:36:35.880 that's why I wrote the book because you have to know, you have to understand the relationship

00:36:40.460 between the two. If you're going to understand the rise of Kamala Harris. So forget about whether

00:36:45.540 or not Kamala beats Trump for a second. Do you think Kamala even outperforms a debilitated Joe Biden?

00:36:54.280 That's a good question because right now we're looking at some, you know, the three major states,

00:36:59.420 right? Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. Can Kamala Harris garner enough support there

00:37:04.760 more than Joe Biden. And that'll be the, that'll be what the interesting thing that

00:37:09.800 comes up in the polls. One thing that Harris's advisors suggest is, you know, because of her

00:37:14.920 identity, maybe she'll perform better in states like North Carolina or Georgia. You know, maybe she

00:37:20.140 might cut down Trump's margin there, but ultimately it's going to take a huge amount of work to get her

00:37:27.300 up to speed and get her ready to appeal to the voters and the voters in those three major swing

00:37:32.940 states. So you've, you've studied the woman. If she does become the nominee and if, you know, we hope,

00:37:39.100 we hope against it, of course, but if she became the president, what would that look like? Who is

00:37:44.520 Kamala Harris? What does she believe? What are her priorities? Uh, what do we have to fight against

00:37:49.960 and potentially dread? Well, she's a hundred percent. Her number one goal is, is the issue

00:37:56.240 of abortion. Since Roe v. Wade was overturned, she's made that her sole political focus that

00:38:01.080 she's been campaigning across the country on the issue of abortion. It's, it'll be the number one

00:38:06.400 issue. If, if elected president, it'll be the number one issue that she starts, starts her presidency

00:38:11.420 on. She wants revenge for that decision. She wants it. She wants Roe v. Wade completely codified back

00:38:17.540 into law and she wants to punish Republicans for doing it in the first place. So I do see it as a

00:38:22.880 very hostile, very aggressive push towards that on that issue. And certainly to continue on with

00:38:29.220 and defend the entire Biden agenda that's passed so far. Uh, that is very unfortunate because one,

00:38:36.880 it's a, it's an evil, evil, uh, position to, to make your raison d'etre in politics. But, but also,

00:38:43.920 you know, I'm as pro-life as they get. When abortion has come up on the ballot since the

00:38:49.320 overruling of Roe v. Wade, the pro-lifers have not fared very well. So I'm sure Kamala Harris is

00:38:54.860 going to want to make this election in some ways, a referendum on abortion. You can see Trump trying

00:39:00.240 to choose his words carefully on abortion. You know, he, he is the most pro-life president we've

00:39:04.900 ever had. First sitting president to show up to the March for Life, appointed the judges who

00:39:09.140 overruled Roe v. Wade. So he's got, he's got very good pro-life bona fides, but he's, he's trying to,

00:39:14.960 uh, uh, minimize how he speaks about it because as he said, you got to get elected. So you can see

00:39:21.800 her even leaning into that. Uh, Charlie, thank you so much for coming on. The book is Amateur Hour.

00:39:26.220 Everyone go out, get Amateur Hour today. Uh, Charlie, I suspect the one really nice thing out of all this

00:39:32.280 news today, I suspect you're about to make a lot more money. So that's good. And then people can learn

00:39:36.640 more about Kamala Harris as a result of that. So thank you for coming on. Thanks so much for

00:39:41.620 having me, Michael. Okay. Uh, we've got news coming out now. Chuck Schumer. Schumer's come out.

00:39:47.920 He said, Joe Biden has not only been a great president and a great legislative leader,

00:39:51.580 but he's a truly amazing human being. Okay. This guy, this guy who can't discern the difference

00:40:00.820 between truth and a lie, who told black people that Mitt Romney was going to put them all back in

00:40:06.620 chains, who's told nasty, evil lies for his whole life. This guy, he's like, well, what an amazing

00:40:13.320 human being, St. Joe. Anyway, Chuck goes on. His decision, of course, was not easy. It was not easy

00:40:19.460 because you guys had to restrain him to a bed, threaten him at knife point is like, you will drop

00:40:25.140 out or, or else. Uh, but this decision was not easy, but he once again put his country, his party,

00:40:31.020 and our future first. Joe today shows you are a true Patriot and a great American. Uh, Obama,

00:40:38.660 not seeing any, any posts yet from Barack Obama. Uh, let's see. We've got a statement from Bill Clinton.

00:40:48.800 Uh, so this just came out. This is, this is a joint statement from both Bubba and secretary of state

00:40:55.540 Hillary. President Biden has capped his extraordinary career of service with a presidency. He also capital

00:41:01.900 P presidency. I think the same illiterate is writing all of these statements. They all have really weird

00:41:08.060 capitalization in them. It's a little bit of a digression, but that's kind of odd. People who

00:41:12.800 generally have a good grasp of the English language are all writing in the same weird way. And it's,

00:41:19.920 it's relevant actually, because this whole stepping down seems oddly scripted and contrived. And we

00:41:29.600 haven't actually seen Biden or heard from him directly. It, it just, it feels like the same

00:41:35.020 person is writing all of these statements. In any case, uh, career of service with a presidency that

00:41:41.080 has lifted America out of an unprecedented pandemic, created millions of new jobs, rebuilt a battered

00:41:47.140 economy, strengthened our democracy and restored our standing in the world by any measure. He has

00:41:53.740 advanced our founders, but then he doesn't capitalize founders. That's weird. His, our founders

00:41:57.560 charged to build a more perfect union and his own stated goal of restoring the soul of our nation.

00:42:02.900 We joined millions of Americans in thanking president Biden for all he has accomplished standing up for

00:42:08.900 America time and again with his North star always being what's best for the country. We're honored

00:42:14.580 to join the president and endorsing vice president Harris and we will do whatever we can to support

00:42:19.200 her. Okay. Blah, blah, blah goes on. So the Clintons are in on Harris too. Uh, Schumer, I'm not yet

00:42:26.800 seeing an endorsement of Harris from Schumer, although this is all happening in real time. So who knows?

00:42:32.240 It may have already broken. We're just, no, we're just seeing more, more plaudits for Biden. Has

00:42:42.300 Obama posted yet? Nope, not seeing anything. Last was a last tweet from Obama was three days ago.

00:42:51.160 He's talking about John Lewis, the former Democrat congressman, but you're seeing a slow turn here.

00:42:57.560 Elon Musk is reacting to the news. He said, I heard last week that he would resign at this exact time

00:43:03.040 and date. It was widespread knowledge in DC. The real powers that be are discarding the old puppet in

00:43:06.840 favor of one that has a better chance of fooling the public. They fear Trump because he's not a puppet.

00:43:10.140 Yeah. Wow. Actually, I had not read Elon Musk's post before I just said what I said, but, but Elon is

00:43:16.800 saying much the same thing. They heard that we all heard that this, this was maybe going to happen

00:43:22.800 Sunday afternoon. My, my poor wife, sweet little Elisa juggling our three toddlers. She said, can he

00:43:29.260 just do it Friday or Monday? Why is he? But, but it happened exactly the rumored time. And we're not

00:43:36.360 even hearing from him. It's, it really feels like a show. It really feels like, like an old ham actor

00:43:44.180 in a vaudeville act in a, in a, in a dying show gets the, gets the cane, gets the curtain pulled

00:43:50.540 off stage, never to be heard from again. I did make this point on my show either Thursday or Friday

00:43:55.400 when Biden left Las Vegas. He was supposed to give another, he'd given a speech in Las Vegas. That was

00:44:02.520 a disaster. He then was supposed to give another speech in Las Vegas. He didn't. The, the Democrat

00:44:09.480 who was hosting that speech came out and said, so sorry, I've heard from the president. He really

00:44:13.200 wanted to be here, but he's got COVID. So, you know, anyway, you'll never, you're not going to

00:44:18.100 hear from him. He can't be here. He's back in Rehoboth beach, not even back at the white house.

00:44:21.360 He's back at his private home. And I, I did say you might never hear from Biden on the campaign trail

00:44:28.680 again as a, as a presidential candidate. This, this might be the end of his presidential campaign

00:44:35.380 appearances. You might, you know, maybe you hear from him again as president later this week, as he

00:44:40.980 says he, he might do, but he's, if, if he takes any questions from the press and if there's even one

00:44:48.140 honest journalist in the group, he's going to have to face the question, how can you possibly continue

00:44:54.960 to serve as president? If you're too weak and senile to run for president, how can you possibly

00:45:01.400 continue to serve as president? Now he might not face that question because don't, don't forget

00:45:06.880 the liberal establishment journalists have been hard on Biden in recent weeks because they wanted

00:45:12.600 to strengthen the Democrat ticket in their mind by replacing him as the nominee. So any difficult

00:45:20.120 questions that they made Biden face was only in service of their, their usual goal, which is

00:45:27.340 furthering leftism, furthering the democratic party. So now that he's given them what they want,

00:45:34.380 there's no reason to expect that the press will give him any difficult questions.

00:45:38.600 And that's not even, it's a difficult question for him to answer, but it's such an obvious question.

00:45:42.260 How can you continue to serve as president? And what happened behind the scenes? What got this guy

00:45:49.020 to turn from, I am sticking it out, come hell or high water, I will be the nominee, to

00:45:55.960 this statement tweeted for him while he's hidden away in Delaware? Was there any threat made to invoke

00:46:06.620 the 25th amendment to remove him from office and from the campaign trail? What, I don't know,

00:46:12.160 I have no reason to believe that that's the case other than the chatter that we've heard in the

00:46:16.960 establishment media, the same establishment media that's getting the credit for chasing him out of

00:46:20.140 the race. But regardless, he is out of the race. And what does this mean for Republicans?

00:46:28.600 I said for weeks that I think in many ways, Biden, even obviously senile, was the strongest candidate

00:46:40.620 for the Democrats. Kamala Harris, as we've observed, has never been able to even stay in the race long

00:46:49.800 enough to win a single vote while running in a primary. Gavin Newsom, give me a break. I don't

00:46:54.920 think Gavin Newsom plays in Peoria. Michelle Obama? What? No. So I said, look, it's not that Biden is

00:47:02.340 strong. Biden still looks like he's going to lose to Trump, but he might be the best available.

00:47:08.680 Democrats obviously have felt differently. And if I'm a Republican, if I'm the Trump campaign right

00:47:13.240 now, that does worry me a little bit. Because even if Trump, or even if Biden rather, was relatively

00:47:21.720 stronger than Harris. Harris, there's more unpredictability. With Harris, you just don't

00:47:28.200 know. You don't know how the media are going to react to her this time. You don't know how the

00:47:32.440 identity politics are going to play. You don't know how the relative youth is going to play.

00:47:36.320 Now, speaking of a youthful politician, I have one of the most brilliant young politicians in

00:47:41.720 America Online, my friend Vivek Ramaswamy. Vivek, thank you for joining.

00:47:47.680 Good to be on that. How are you doing?

00:47:49.480 I'm, I'm, I don't know how I'm doing, actually. Vivek, I was going to say, I guess I'm doing well

00:47:54.660 because this bad thing happened to Biden. But I don't know if this hurts or improves Trump's

00:48:02.200 chances in 2024. What's your reaction? Yeah, well, look, my reaction is, first of all,

00:48:07.760 just follow the incentives. And you tend to, it tends to be the best way to predict what's

00:48:12.780 actually going to happen. Right. You know, Michael, you and I have been talking probably

00:48:16.320 for over a year. I said this first last spring and more prominently during the Republican debates,

00:48:22.540 it was dismissed as a conspiracy theory. Now it's played out as reality. Yeah. And so I'll stick to

00:48:28.900 the same pattern of, you know, and all the way down to even my concerns about a system that was

00:48:34.620 going to have a non-tolerating response to Trump being the nominee. Although I think divine providence

00:48:40.180 found its way to, to guide ourselves to the right outcome. So let's use the same, same sort of lens.

00:48:46.320 Now, what are the incentives going forward? Their incentives are to win, but it's not an individual,

00:48:52.220 right? If you understand that, if you think it's an individual that we're up against, you're missing the

00:48:55.460 point. Yeah. We're up against a machine. So I think it would be a mistake for Republicans to sort

00:49:01.640 of train our critical fire of criticism on Kamala. Now, no, I don't think that's the right way to go

00:49:08.000 because she too is a puppet of the same machine. Biden has cognitive deficits. So does she in both

00:49:14.020 cases, their cognitive deficits are not a bug. They're a feature. And I think what we have to

00:49:19.720 understand is that we're up against that machine. We're running against a system. Our only way to

00:49:25.280 insulate ourselves against that is to actually call out that fact, say who we are and what we

00:49:30.360 actually stand for. And I think a lot of Democrats and a lot of independents now realize they've been

00:49:35.560 lied to about probably the single most important of the so-called conspiracy theories turned reality

00:49:40.120 in the last several years. I mean, we've got the Hunter Biden laptop. You got the Russia collusion

00:49:44.380 hoax. You got the origin of COVID. Those are big ones, right? But this might be the one that goes down

00:49:50.320 in the history books as the one that's most lasting, is a machine lying about the capability

00:49:55.580 of the U.S. commander-in-chief to actually serve as the commander-in-chief. Biden is not the current

00:49:59.080 president of the United States in any functional sense, and they've lied about it. And I think that

00:50:03.540 that creates an opening for us to really develop an honest message to the American people that we are

00:50:09.440 not running to beat the next puppet of that system. We're running to break that system.

00:50:15.120 And I think it's a powerful reality.

00:50:18.220 I noticed, Vivek, in Milwaukee. I was unfortunately only there very briefly because I didn't want my

00:50:23.560 wife to murder me upon my return with our little newborn and the other toddlers. But I was there

00:50:29.020 long enough to catch how extremely well you were received. When you showed up to the RNC,

00:50:36.240 the crowd went wild. They were very excited about the vision that you're presenting. And so,

00:50:42.000 obviously, you've endorsed and supported President Trump, and you're part of the team

00:50:48.160 and an important player on the team. So if you were advising the Trump campaign right now,

00:50:54.140 how do you tell them to react to this news? And what specifically do you go after if tomorrow

00:51:03.220 Kamala Harris became the official nominee?

00:51:06.280 Look, I think that the right track, and first of all, I will say is I've had great conversations with

00:51:12.000 President Trump. I actually, whatever, spoke to him in the last hour or so since this came out.

00:51:16.220 He doesn't, he's in the right headspace. I think that he is in a, operating at a different plane

00:51:21.880 than even he was as recently as probably 48 years ago, even maybe as recently as 46 months ago.

00:51:29.620 Right.

00:51:30.120 And I think that he is, he understands that he's effectively right now the leader of the country.

00:51:36.360 Right. Not, he's not the President of the United States in the nominal sense of it.

00:51:40.420 But just as a child in a household, you brought up young children, I have young children,

00:51:44.700 just as young children need to know that there's a mother and a father figure in the house.

00:51:49.860 And here are the people who fill that vacuum in my heart as a member of this household.

00:51:54.580 Citizens need to know that here's the leader of our country right now.

00:51:58.000 And when you just ask in an ordinary sense of the word, right, to a citizen on the street,

00:52:02.380 you ask them, who's that leader that grounds your sense of nation and your stability as a citizen of

00:52:07.940 this nation? It's not Joe Biden right now. I think that person in their heart right now is Donald

00:52:11.900 Trump. And I think he understands that too. And he's rising to that occasion. And so I don't think

00:52:17.700 he needs the advice that I, that I would give, but here's what it is nonetheless. And I'm,

00:52:22.620 you know, I'll share it nonetheless, because I think it's important for all of us to,

00:52:25.760 to sort of hold ourselves to the standard is we have to offer our own vision of who we are

00:52:31.260 and why we're running to actually save this country and why president Trump is going to be the person

00:52:37.860 to do it, irrespective of who they put up. I don't think the knee jerk temptation to go now come up

00:52:44.660 with specified tailor-made criticism of Kamala Harris is the right way to go. I think that would

00:52:49.720 come across and look insecure. It would look like we're worried when in fact we have no reason to be

00:52:54.100 worried. And instead, I think just point out the fact that, okay, here's the latest lie they told

00:52:58.660 you. It's part of a recurring pattern over the last eight years. It's not an individual who's at

00:53:03.200 fault. It's an entire machine that we're going in there to actually beat and defeat. Not an

00:53:07.940 individual, but a machine. It's the managerial class that has crushed the will. That wheel of

00:53:12.360 the managerial class continues to turn and crush the will of the everyday citizen. I don't care if

00:53:17.120 you're a Democrat or Republican or a black or white citizen, we're here to restore a country where

00:53:21.800 the people's voices are heard and they're represented. And I think that that's a message

00:53:26.520 that now a lot more Democrats and independents may be more receptive to than they might've been.

00:53:30.980 That's really insightful, Vivek. That's really, because Biden, unlike more ideological candidates,

00:53:37.500 Biden's always been kind of an empty suit. And so if Republicans had tailored all of our

00:53:42.480 criticisms of this administration against the man, Joe Biden, and then all, you know, we say,

00:53:47.380 Joe Biden's the worst man in the country. And then all of a sudden we have to,

00:53:50.000 we have to flip on a moment's notice and say, no, actually, sorry, Kamala Harris is the worst

00:53:54.180 person in the country. That would seem disingenuous, but, but that's not our problem

00:53:58.680 with it. Kamala Harris is just, just as empty a suit as I guess maybe a pantsuit or a dress or

00:54:03.340 something, but, but she's basically the same kind of politician as Joe Biden is. And that's not

00:54:08.580 really our, I don't really care about either of them personally much at all. I care about the machine

00:54:13.480 that they are, are part of and nominally leading.

00:54:18.060 The individual is irrelevant. The collective machine is all that matters. And in a certain

00:54:21.820 sense, Michael, I mean, it's even truer with the broader philosophy of what the left represents and

00:54:25.120 is always right. Right. Right. Is that the denial of human agency in some ways, I'm not going to make

00:54:30.600 this too philosophical, but that's just manifest in the way that they run the machine that you and

00:54:34.760 I are talking about as well. So the more we stay clear-eyed about that, the more successful we're

00:54:38.900 going to be. And that'd be my advice to our entire party and our entire movement. And, you know,

00:54:44.200 I don't think he needs it, but to Donald Trump, that's, that's sort of my perspective as well.

00:54:47.480 Before I let you go, because you have been uncanny in your predictions of what would transpire,

00:54:53.680 you know, over the course of the past year or so, do you have any guesses as to who Kamala might

00:55:01.540 pick or who the democratic establishment might pick to be her running mate? So look, I think there's two

00:55:06.820 viable choices for who the nominee is going to be. Just because Biden has endorsed Harris does

00:55:11.500 not automatically mean it's going to be her. I think the two choices are Kamala or Michelle

00:55:14.860 Obama. I think those remain the two choices. I've said that all along. I say it now because

00:55:18.780 they checked the identity politic commitment boxes at the same time that allows them to

00:55:24.980 feign the commitments they had made at the time they made Kamala Harris, the vice presidential

00:55:30.100 nominee, when she had no merit in fulfilling that role. Suppose it's Kamala. I think Josh Shapiro

00:55:35.480 is likely to be the VP. I could be totally wrong about this, but again, I've been wrong. You

00:55:40.780 know, I've had a few, I've had a lot of things over the last couple of years, Michael, that

00:55:44.880 were, would be conspiracy theories that have turned into reality. Conspiracy theorems, I

00:55:50.560 call them now. They've been proven. Right, right, right. Truth theorems is what they ended up

00:55:54.040 being, you know, and, you know, I was, you know, I'm grateful that some of those did not

00:56:01.840 transpire even if only by a hair's breadth. Right. But, you know, in terms of what the

00:56:06.280 other side would try to do, it's, you know, it was, I think in some ways, I think divine

00:56:12.400 providence guided the founding of this country and I think guided us a week ago as well on that

00:56:18.440 Saturday. But nonetheless, I do think that in the spirit of, you know, tracking what my

00:56:24.760 instincts are here, I think Josh Shapiro may end up being the VP to Kamala. It's not complicated.

00:56:30.360 It's not rocket science. Follow the incentives. Pennsylvania, key state, they need to win it

00:56:35.200 in order to win the election. Somebody's well-spoken offers a visual deflection off of the identity

00:56:40.980 politic basis for them selecting Kamala and maybe even brings some of the, some of the Jewish

00:56:46.760 vote back. Right. I think that there, there may be some of the things that they're looking at

00:56:49.900 through the world of checking boxes. I think he's not an unreasonable choice. He actually talks a

00:56:54.980 good game. The reality is he unfortunately doesn't live up to it. He says the right things about school

00:56:59.860 choice, but push comes to shove, doesn't actually implement it in Pennsylvania, but people just

00:57:04.040 remember the things he said. Right. And that's the way our world works. So I think if it's Kamala,

00:57:08.980 I think there's a good chance Josh Shapiro is the VP. If it's Michelle Obama, I don't think who the VP is

00:57:13.200 matters. But I do think that those are the viable paths that I see going forward.

00:57:17.460 Just in case anyone thinks that Vivek is exaggerating here about his prescience,

00:57:22.160 we have it. Here he is during the presidential debate predicting that this very thing would occur.

00:57:29.120 I also want to close with one message to the Democrat party. End this farce that Joe Biden is

00:57:34.080 going to be your nominee. We know he's not even the president of the United States. He's a puppet for

00:57:38.600 the managerial class. So have the guts to step up and be honest about who you're actually going to

00:57:43.240 put up so we can have an honest debate. Biden should step aside and his candidacy now so we

00:57:48.640 can see whether it's Newsom or Michelle Obama or whoever else. Just tell us the truth so we can

00:57:52.960 have an honest debate. Vivek, I love it. All right. All right. That's enough. That's enough of the truth.

00:57:57.860 Get that out of here. You called it. They roasted me as a conspiracy theorist after that one,

00:58:03.040 because this is quite early and even dating back to last spring. But nonetheless, there are some of

00:58:08.580 the things I was right on. I wish I had not been right on. This one, I feel less, it's neither good

00:58:15.240 nor bad. It's just what's true is forget less about the individual. The other side does not see the

00:58:20.200 world in terms of individual agency anyway. They believe in a collective machine. That's what we're

00:58:24.900 up against. And that's what we're going to defeat. So you raise the possibility that maybe the

00:58:29.220 Democrats won't follow Biden's lead. They won't go with Kamala. Maybe they'll pick

00:58:32.400 a Michelle Obama even. Would you bet on some kind of convention fight?

00:58:38.760 Can I just try to stop you on the follow Biden's lead? Like even the notion that he's Biden's

00:58:42.720 leader has ever been Biden's lead at all. I think it takes the essence of what's happening, right?

00:58:47.960 Yeah. There's been no sense in which there's been a Biden lead at any point in his presidency.

00:58:52.000 Right. He is a hollowed out husk of a U.S. president, a stuffed suit that they wield as a

00:59:02.280 pawn, right? The idea that Biden has led to anything is a joke. So the idea of following

00:59:06.880 his lead is itself, I think, with respect, an incoherent concept.

00:59:11.580 It is. It's farcical.

00:59:13.200 I agree with it. Just the concept doesn't exist. So the question is what the machine determines.

00:59:17.740 It's a great point.

00:59:18.420 You know, him saying that today was part of the machine.

00:59:20.720 That cog was doing what it's supposed to do.

00:59:22.200 As I said earlier, Vivek, I'm not even convinced the man knows that he tweeted that.

00:59:27.520 We will have to stay tuned. Thank you very much for taking time out of your Sunday when

00:59:32.460 Biden decided to screw up all of our Sunday afternoons. But thank you. Thank you. Thank

00:59:36.900 you for coming on. And we'll have to have you back soon so that we can figure out what's

00:59:42.080 going to happen in the next three to six months. You know, we got to we got to keep I don't

00:59:46.460 know how to make my only advice. It's actually very simple. Follow the incentives, add them up,

00:59:51.600 and the future actually becomes relatively clear. It's often far simpler than it is complicated.

00:59:57.260 Just follow the incentives and see where that takes you.

00:59:59.740 That is too commonsensical. That is spoken like a man who has done well in business.

01:00:03.620 You know, Vivek, that is no place in politics. Simple incentives. Thank you, sir. Thank you for

01:00:09.340 coming on. We will be having Ben Shapiro coming on soon enough. I thought, why isn't he here right now?

01:00:15.420 What the heck is going on? This is not Shabbat. I don't I don't know what golf course Ben is on

01:00:21.700 right now, but we will be hearing from Ben very shortly. And I look forward to to his. I can't

01:00:29.340 figure out if it's going to be glee because he did. He had an excellent episode of facts come out

01:00:36.460 just a couple of days ago saying, OK, what happens when Biden gets out? So, you know, he also clearly

01:00:42.060 saw this coming. And then and then he can bring not only political analysis, but legal analysis to

01:00:47.260 what happens just legally through through the the Democratic National Committee. What what what

01:00:55.320 will happen with the convention? What will happen as the state deadlines come due? Moments like this

01:01:00.840 are exactly why the Daily Wire exists. We are here to cut through the left's narrative and ensure

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01:01:18.980 fight. Do that right now. That's certainly what I will do. I'll light up one of my Michael Knowles

01:01:24.480 show candles. Maybe I'll spot. I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about Mayflower, but maybe I'll

01:01:28.080 spark one of those up. Who knows? Who knows what will happen? I don't know that Joe Biden knows right

01:01:33.820 now. We're getting some breaking news. This from Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom has come out.

01:01:42.820 Will he endorse Kamala? Will he? Oh, no, I don't see any Kamala endorsements here. President Biden

01:01:47.420 has been an extraordinary history making president. Well, that's true. He has made history. He's

01:01:52.880 maybe the most failed president in American history. I'm trying to think of a James Buchanan maybe would go

01:02:02.960 down as worse or I don't know. Millard film. Maybe. I don't know. I mean, he Biden makes Chester A.

01:02:14.060 Arthur look like, you know, Lincoln or Roosevelt or something. But but he says Biden's been an

01:02:20.680 extraordinary history making president, a leader who has fought hard for working people and delivered

01:02:25.460 astonishing results for all Americans. That's true. The results have astonished us. We didn't realize how

01:02:30.660 bad things could could actually get in the course of just three years. He will go down in history as

01:02:35.100 one of the most impactful and selfless presidents. I love that word impactful, which is a nonsensical

01:02:40.340 word. It's just that, you know, he's a president that's just so full of impact. You know, he's just

01:02:45.240 absolutely bursting at the seams, filled to the brim with impact and selfless presidents. So so nothing

01:02:50.940 here other than, hey, Joe, thanks for getting out of the race. But I'm not endorsing Kamala. We have

01:02:55.720 Mr. Shapiro on the line. Ben, Ben, where are you? Why am I sitting here? Why aren't you sitting

01:03:02.180 here? Oh, I'm in the middle of nowhere, you know, summertime where you are able to go off on vacation

01:03:08.560 a little bit, enjoy your life a little bit. But every Sunday, something terrible happens or

01:03:12.880 something wonderful happens, depending on your perspective. And and we're all back at work,

01:03:16.200 right? So, you know, I will have an emergency episode of the podcast that much later tonight.

01:03:20.680 I was about to get on a plane. But, you know, such a such is like Joe Biden is out to ruin America

01:03:25.220 and he's ruined my life as well. So I said this when when I got the call that he had he had made

01:03:31.100 this post. Sweet little Elisa did turn to me. She goes, oh, no. And I thought this is Biden.

01:03:37.340 His last act as the Democrat nominee is to screw up all of our Sundays. So what's your take? You saw

01:03:43.320 this happening. You had an excellent episode of facts come out, what, two days ago on what happens

01:03:48.500 and what what will happen, you know, imminently when he gets out of the race. So you've seen he's

01:03:53.940 endorsed Kamala Harris. The Clintons have come out and endorsed his endorsement of Kamala Harris.

01:03:58.820 Gavin Newsom has come out and endorsed his dropping out, but not his endorsement of Kamala Harris.

01:04:02.660 We've got the Democratic National Convention less than a month away. We've got the ballot deadlines

01:04:07.600 and at least Ohio just for the nominee to get on the ballot coming up much sooner than that.

01:04:12.080 So what happens? Well, I mean, I think that what happens, first of all,

01:04:16.160 there's a good episode of facts that we put out, as you say, a couple of days ago that says exactly

01:04:20.500 what happens next. If you were to drop out, we also have a three part series on Kamala Harris that

01:04:26.460 is available at Daily Wire, plus also available at YouTube. So people should check that out if

01:04:29.620 they want to know what the next nominee looks like. She's she will be the nominee. The consolidation

01:04:32.920 behind her is too solid. It's too fast. No one is going to have the stomach to go up against both

01:04:36.940 the Obamas and the Clintons in the middle of all of this. Nancy Pelosi's come out in favor of her

01:04:40.620 for Noah Jai Paul. The consolidation is incredibly quick. He knew it had to be. The problem,

01:04:44.780 of course, is she's a wildly incompetent and unpopular vice president. So does that mean

01:04:49.520 that Donald Trump still has the upper hand? It does. But this race changes dramatically.

01:04:54.980 In one real sense, the Biden failure here was a mass debate and switch. The entire Republican

01:05:01.880 party shifted its focus from the failures of his policy to the failures of his brain. And what

01:05:07.300 because of that, that took focus off of the failure of his policy, which is the thing you

01:05:10.560 actually have to run against if you're running against Kamala, right? Because her brain may be

01:05:14.060 screwed up in very different ways than Joe Biden. And so the sort of attempt to kind of, yeah,

01:05:20.580 mold her together, that's kind of staple her to Biden is going to have to be done on a policy

01:05:25.600 basis. It's going to be very difficult to do that on a personal basis. She has her own independent

01:05:28.980 set of foibles. But anything looks better than an actual walking corpse as the presidential

01:05:34.060 candidate. But she's still alive. Words come out of her mouth that actually sound like words,

01:05:38.940 even if the sentences don't sound like sentences. And so in that sense, it will be an upgrade.

01:05:43.400 Obviously, Democrats will be much more likely to get out to vote. Now, the Democratic voter turnout

01:05:47.120 is going to be jazzed by this, particularly in the black community. You would assume the media are

01:05:50.600 going to try and weave a story where it's 1000 take on Kamala Harris is tempering a new look,

01:05:56.560 she's a new person. All of that may be false, but it's such a short time until the election

01:06:00.360 that it takes a little while to debunk these particular sorts of narratives. And again,

01:06:04.380 she is somewhat set in the public imagination, but certainly not in the same way that Joe Biden

01:06:08.960 was set or Donald Trump is set in the public imagination. So it's going to be up to Donald

01:06:12.300 Trump and the Trump campaign to really define her in the public eye. She's been in the public eye,

01:06:16.600 but she's been secondary in the public eye. She's not been primary in the public eye.

01:06:19.660 Yeah, I think basically no one knows anything about her. I mean, even politicos don't know how to

01:06:25.560 pronounce her name. So she's a blank slate for the Democrats to draw on or for the Republicans to draw on.

01:06:34.380 You know, to get to the mendacity of the media for a moment, you know, in 2020, the same media who

01:06:42.200 have spent the last several weeks openly discussing Biden's obvious senility and dementia in 2020 said

01:06:50.600 that it was just a recurrence of a childhood stutter. And today I saw coverage on CBS News.

01:06:56.160 They said, you know, Joe Biden, he was known for his whole career since the 70s as one of the great

01:07:00.560 orators of the Senate. And when he lost his ability to speak, that was the sign that he had to get out

01:07:05.420 of the race. And I thought, you people, you liars, you frauds, you told us three years ago that his

01:07:12.800 inability to speak was no big deal. And actually it had been happening for decades. So of course,

01:07:18.000 they'll try to paint Kamala as, you know, some living saint or something like that.

01:07:23.440 Can they do it? You know, what is the Republican definition of Kamala before they have the chance?

01:07:31.720 So I think you really have to define Kamala as a principle free person who, if anything,

01:07:36.960 is very radical. She is, in fact, incredibly corrupt. She her entire career has been failing

01:07:42.460 up. She's incompetent. She was given control of the border. She failed on that. She was given

01:07:47.660 control of a wide variety of other issues. Sentinel, for example, she failed on those.

01:07:51.220 There's going to be a lot to mine with Kamala, but it's not going to be nearly as easy as it was

01:07:55.660 with Joe Biden. And again, as you say, because I think Republican politicos feel that Kamala is

01:08:01.020 pretty well-defined, but the general public does not see her as particularly well-defined. The only

01:08:04.680 people who remember her remember her from the primary, didn't like her very much, but they like

01:08:08.200 her better now because she was a Democratic primary and now she's vice president of the United

01:08:11.320 States. The general American public doesn't like her very much. That's a reflection of Biden's

01:08:14.900 policy. It's not a reflection of hers. So I think that the biggest thing that Republicans can do

01:08:19.080 is continue to keep a spotlight on Kamala Harris. What Democrats have done that's very smart here

01:08:22.660 is they have, again, reshifted the conversation away from whom this is a referendum on. So again,

01:08:29.280 my entire take on this campaign was going to be, if this election was a referendum on Biden,

01:08:32.540 Biden loses. If it was a referendum on Trump, Trump loses. Well, by getting Biden out of the race,

01:08:36.900 this election, once again, can easily turn into a referendum on Trump. So I think that,

01:08:41.800 again, Trump has an advantage in the polls. They're running a relatively unknown candidate who is

01:08:46.280 very uncharming, who's really great on the ear. But with that said, if she is seen as less

01:08:54.800 controversial than Trump, if Trump is not incredibly disciplined from here on in, this could turn into

01:08:59.980 a real race again pretty quickly. And I think also it'll be interesting to see who she picks as VP.

01:09:04.480 I don't think that typically matters a lot, but I think it matters in terms of defining her as a

01:09:07.740 candidate because she's such an unknown. Who she picks as VP is going to be a good indicator to the

01:09:11.720 public as to how she's thinking in the same way that it's sort of picking J.D. Vance is obviously

01:09:15.920 Donald Trump's attempt to appeal to Rust Belt states, maybe some of the traditional conservative

01:09:20.480 base socially. I think that who she picks is going to speak to how she wants to be perceived.

01:09:24.800 So if she picks somebody who's perceived as somewhat moderate, let's say she picks like

01:09:28.460 Amy Klobuchar from Minnesota, or let's say she picks Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania or Andy

01:09:33.420 Beshear from Kentucky, then that's going to be seen as a moderation play by Kamala. And that's

01:09:37.360 going to be a smart pick. If she picks somebody who's perceived as somewhat more radical than

01:09:41.060 Gavin Newsom, for example, that'd be a huge mistake by her. Bottom line is this entire

01:09:46.240 race just got turned upside down and got completely reshuffled. Anybody who pretends they have an

01:09:49.700 excellent read on this race, five minutes after Joe Biden dropped out, they're lying. There is no

01:09:54.240 good read on this race at this point. The polling data does not matter because the polling data

01:09:58.020 was assuming, like everybody was like, okay, well, would I vote for Kamala? You don't know anything

01:10:01.880 about Kamala. You're just kind of saying you would or you wouldn't. Now that she's at the top of the

01:10:04.760 ticket, it radically changed everything. The two things that I think that she is vulnerable on in

01:10:09.380 terms of sort of political line, vulnerability, number one, she was complicit in this cover up

01:10:14.100 and Republicans should hammer her for this. She was obviously like up till last week, she was saying

01:10:18.020 he was perfectly fine. He's totally normal. Everything is fine. They should immediately put

01:10:21.300 out a series of ads labeling her a liar because she is a liar. So they should, they should hit her with

01:10:25.060 dishonesty. Only 18% of Americans actually believe that Joe Biden was mentally fit for the presidency.

01:10:31.280 And the vast majority of Americans, like 80% of Americans believe that anyone who defends

01:10:35.800 Joe Biden's mental fitness is a liar. So they should be hitting her on that right away. The

01:10:40.180 second thing is that Joe Biden is not resigning the presidency. And so serious pressure should

01:10:43.480 be put on her to explain why she's not invoking the 25th amendment. If he's truly senile enough,

01:10:47.480 he can't run for a second term. Then why exactly is she sitting by and watching if he completely

01:10:51.760 destroys the world? She is complicit in every one of his policies because she has the power

01:10:55.440 today to take him off the seat, right? She has the power today to get her cabinet mobilized. It's

01:11:00.540 actually her job to do that. And she's not doing that, which means that she is now responsible

01:11:04.320 for all of his activities now until the election.

01:11:06.700 That's right. Because, you know, if he doesn't actually resign the presidency, then you're talking

01:11:10.680 about six or seven months of a man who is admitting that he's too senile to run. That's

01:11:17.300 obviously very dangerous. If I'm Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin, I'm paying close attention to

01:11:21.440 that. You bring up the potential running mates. We've heard some rumor in the Beltway Press that

01:11:28.040 it could be Shapiro. No relation, I hope. Shapiro in Pennsylvania or Bashir in Kentucky. Do you have

01:11:35.300 any bets? I would probably bet. I think it's very difficult to see Shapiro. I think that the base

01:11:42.360 of the Democratic Party, I mean, not to be blunt about this, but I'll be blunt about this. I don't

01:11:46.020 think they hate the Jews vice president. Yes. I mean, I think it's that simple. I really do. And by the way,

01:11:50.420 I've heard that from Democratic Congress people. So, I mean, that's not just me saying that. Like,

01:11:53.560 there's a solid base in the Democratic Party that does not want to see a Jew in the second position

01:11:57.240 in the middle of the Israel conflict. So, I think that it's more likely that she goes with somebody

01:12:02.280 like a Bashir. I could see a world where they're so intoxicated by the intersectionality that they

01:12:08.540 actually go with Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan in the hope that that wins the Michigan and also

01:12:11.540 creates the first all-female ticket. One of the things that's happened in this election cycle is this

01:12:15.360 massive, large gender gap between the Democrats and the Republicans. Males are overwhelmingly voting for

01:12:20.840 Trump. Females, particularly single females, are overwhelmingly voting for voting for the Democratic

01:12:25.120 ticket. And so, you could really exacerbate that by putting another woman on the ticket and then

01:12:28.740 basically daring Donald Trump to be super sexist, right? And then just try to drive out female votes

01:12:33.640 in the swing states, focus in on abortion, focus in on male-female divide, and really polarize the

01:12:39.040 country along those lines. That wouldn't be super shocking. I think it's stupid, but I think it wouldn't

01:12:42.160 be super shocking to see them attempt something like that because they're always going for the

01:12:45.260 historic first. And so, why not have the first historic all-female ticket?

01:12:48.840 Turning the White House into the Longhouse does not seem like the best campaign appeal, but maybe,

01:12:54.960 maybe these days. So, we still don't know if it's officially Kamala. I was just talking to Vivek,

01:13:01.360 who said, look, maybe there's a chance they push for Michelle or something at the convention.

01:13:05.820 No way. No way. Not a chance. It's Kamala. It's Kamala. I mean, listen, Vivek's great. Also,

01:13:11.100 it's Kamala. That's all wish casting. Michelle is not coming in. She has no interest in coming in.

01:13:18.040 I think the real question for somebody like a Josh Shapiro is whether he actually wants to sign up

01:13:21.680 with this ticket given all the myriad weaknesses. He might want to wait another cycle. Honestly,

01:13:26.080 if you're a Democrat, it's a pretty risky cycle. So, maybe what you want to do is wait, see Kamala

01:13:29.480 Harris who you don't like very much anyway, go down and flinch to Trump, figure the midterms will go

01:13:33.280 against the Republicans, and then run in 28. I mean, that is a serious consideration for everyone,

01:13:37.780 except maybe Bashir, who's thinking seriously about running for president.

01:13:40.800 Right. And of course, if you're Kamala, you know, unlike a Gavin Newsom who might think,

01:13:44.980 look, I'll be viable in 28. I'll be viable in 32, for goodness sakes. With Kamala, this is kind of

01:13:49.920 her shot. So, I see why she- Oh, she's got another shot. I mean, of course.

01:13:53.260 Listen, she lucked into it. I think, come on. She has no shot at being elected dog catcher

01:13:57.720 anywhere else. So, this or bust for Kamala Harris. Last question before I let you get back to enjoying

01:14:02.760 your Sunday until you don't get to enjoy your Sunday anymore and have to do your emergency episode of

01:14:06.040 The Bench Bureau Show. You mentioned that the focus will have to be on issues. Vivek actually

01:14:11.680 made a similar point. He said, you know, we're running against the machine. We're not running

01:14:14.800 against the individual of Joe Biden or Kamala, anyway. So, Kamala has made abortion a big hobby

01:14:22.100 horse, certainly since the Dobbs ruling, and frankly, while she was a senator and AG in California.

01:14:29.060 So, is that it? Is that her big issue that she's running on? What are the issues that dominate

01:14:34.140 from the Harris campaign and then also from the Trump campaign attacking the Harris campaign?

01:14:40.500 So, I think there are a few things that she's going to do. I think, number one,

01:14:43.000 she is going to run on abortion. I think, number two, she is going to run on the idea that Donald

01:14:47.980 Trump is a candidate of excess, and she's not going to let the January 6th thing go. She will run on

01:14:51.600 an age now. She actually will. She'll say, and you've seen this line being retailed almost immediately,

01:14:56.560 that you said that there were two candidates, but the parties, you know, the general public didn't like

01:15:00.080 either candidate because they were too old. I'm 59, he's 78. We just got our old candidate,

01:15:04.060 why is he still in? Do you really want this generation of politicians running? It's a really

01:15:07.720 cynical play, but I would not be shocked at all if they attempt to do that. In terms of some of

01:15:12.360 the other issues that I think that she'd probably focus on, again, I think that she's going to go

01:15:15.500 into the, I'm a prosecutor mode, the same way she did when she first entered the Senate,

01:15:19.140 say, I'm going to prosecute the case against Donald Trump. Now, as for Trump and the issues,

01:15:22.700 obviously, he's got an enormous number of issues that he can focus in on. The thing that scares me

01:15:27.920 about the current situation, if you're a Republican, again, I'm a Trump donor, I want him to win.

01:15:32.260 I mean, make no mistake, I still think he has the advantage. But the thing that it has to be

01:15:35.960 kind of gnawing at the center of your stomach is this feels a lot now, like sort of the distracting,

01:15:41.200 the distraction that we had in the Mehmet Oz versus John Fetterman race, where the entire

01:15:44.660 Republican Party centered in on the fact that John Fetterman was mentally disabled, actually,

01:15:48.780 for large portions of that race because of the stroke. And the people just went, okay, yeah,

01:15:52.740 but we don't like Mehmet Oz very much. And so I think that that's what Republicans have to worry

01:15:56.520 about, especially in the aftermath of this. We've spent so much time focusing in on the fact that

01:16:00.320 Joe Biden is mentally unfit for the office. How do you switch now back to the policy? So you can

01:16:06.200 hammer her on the border, you can hammer her on her comments on healthcare, you can do all this,

01:16:10.460 but it's gonna like, it's gonna have to be an over the top straight at the issues thing. And again,

01:16:14.960 I think that that Trump's tactic of taking on personalities here is going to be a little bit

01:16:19.920 less successful than it otherwise would be specifically because it's not Biden. I think that I think he runs

01:16:24.920 the real risk of, let's put it this way, if he makes the entire campaign about Willie Brown,

01:16:30.700 which I think is going to be a temptation for him, I don't think that that's going to be a

01:16:34.180 particularly smart strategy. Because again, what she's hoping for is for him to act on hinge,

01:16:38.960 right? This entire campaign now rests on can Donald Trump control himself. If Donald Trump can

01:16:42.840 control himself, he'll be president of the United States. If he acts on hinge, then she's going to try

01:16:47.200 and play moderate for a hot second until she is elected president in her own right.

01:16:51.960 Yeah. Yeah. And I think a hopeful sign, you were watching the RNC the whole time. I was there in

01:16:59.320 the room for a fair bit of it. And Trump and his supporters seemed very focused, certainly more so

01:17:09.340 than perhaps we'd seen in the more eccentric and rowdy 2016 campaign, but even open to the possibility

01:17:15.540 that Biden would not be the nominee. So the Trump campaign had been signaling, look, we might not even

01:17:20.340 be running against Biden. To me, that's a very good sign. I think Trump's in a much better position

01:17:24.860 than he was in 2016, specifically because there have now been massive permission structures that

01:17:28.520 have been created in favor of people voting for Trump, right? That's why you're seeing all the

01:17:32.220 tech bros suddenly coming out and saying nice things about Trump. They might have secretly said

01:17:35.480 it before, but now they're openly saying it. So that few week gap between debate and now did heavy

01:17:40.700 work for Trump because it created an opening where people could suddenly say, you know, I'll actually

01:17:44.340 think about voting Trump and say it openly, not just say it themselves, say it openly. And that

01:17:48.300 permission structure makes it very difficult to kind of portray Trump as kind of the wild,

01:17:51.880 radical, insane person that Democrats are trying to portray him as. So it's a fresh race on both

01:17:55.640 sides. I mean, we're talking about it's a fresh race for Republicans against Democrats. It's kind

01:17:58.940 of a fresh race for Democrats against Republicans as well, because Trump has been somewhat redefined in

01:18:03.400 the public eye as the moderate and as the person who's actually the candidate of solidity in this

01:18:09.100 campaign. And so Harris is going to have to once again, go back to the well and try to prove

01:18:12.620 that Trump is unhinged and radical. And if Trump can avoid that, then again, I think he retains the advantage.

01:18:18.300 All right. That gives me a little bit of hope, even as we're all I think people are really mixed

01:18:23.100 today. I don't know what to think. I'm glad that we've been vindicated and that now even Biden is

01:18:28.560 admitting or his handlers are admitting that, yeah, you're right. I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not

01:18:33.240 glad we've been vindicated. I wish that he had stayed in all the way. I mean, yeah, I was pulling

01:18:36.560 because I mean, especially because, again, the Democrats, the Democrats kept lying and they were lying

01:18:40.800 and lying and lying. And now I get to hear all this crap. I mean, I was frankly enjoying the specter of

01:18:45.880 Democrats for the first time in my lifetime being asked difficult questions by the media.

01:18:49.440 And now we go right to Kamala Harris is wonderful. And Joe Biden is a hero for stepping down,

01:18:53.320 ignoring the fact that if Joe Biden had been leading by five, he never would have stepped

01:18:55.920 down. It wouldn't matter how senior he was. Right. I did say a few more than a few days ago,

01:19:01.140 I guess. So, guys, I know it's fun, but we need to stop making jokes about how Biden's brain is

01:19:06.740 putting until August 18th. Then you can make all the jokes again. But we need to wait until he's

01:19:11.600 formally the nominee. So now we got a new nominee. Ben, I will let you get back to it and then

01:19:16.280 everyone will see your show later. Thank you for coming on. We've got Harmeet Dillon. Harmeet Dillon

01:19:22.060 from the Republican National Committee will be coming on very soon. I don't think we have her yet,

01:19:27.020 but we've got we've got a lot more coming out. The the endorsements keep coming in.

01:19:34.360 Now, people are, you know, trying to get to know the woman who will very likely be the nominee of the

01:19:40.560 Democrat Party for the next three months. In case you're not familiar with Kamala Harris,

01:19:46.880 in case you're in case you're burdened by what we have been, you know, and you and you can't you

01:19:54.760 can't see what what we could be. Well, here here's just a little glimpse at Kamala.

01:19:58.800 What can be unburdened by what has been? What can be unburdened by what has been? What we can see,

01:20:19.180 be what we believe can be unburdened by what has been? What can be unburdened by what has been?

01:20:25.500 What can be unburdened by what has been? What can be unburdened by what has been? What can be

01:20:33.480 unburdened by what has been? What can be unburdened by what has been? Who we can be

01:20:37.140 unburdened by who we have been? What can be unburdened by what has been? Where we can be

01:20:44.400 unburdened by where we have been and unburdened by where we are right now? What can be

01:20:48.360 Unburdened by what has been

01:20:51.000 What can be unburdened by what has been

01:20:53.740 What can be unburdened by what has been

01:20:57.140 What could be unburdened by what had been

01:21:00.620 What can be unburdened by what has been

01:21:04.040 Well, it just

01:21:05.320 Sorry, I just had a little mist in my eye

01:21:10.080 After that beautiful, beautiful rendition

01:21:13.140 We have Professor Jacobs sneaking into my studio

01:21:15.220 Are you trying to hand me even more updates?

01:21:17.500 Thank you very much

01:21:18.260 We got a statement from Obama, baby

01:21:20.000 Oh, I've got a long one

01:21:22.340 Oh, man, classic Obama, you know

01:21:25.080 Obama's statement on Joe Biden dropping out of the 2024 race

01:21:30.320 Is significantly longer than Joe Biden's statement

01:21:33.260 On dropping out

01:21:34.960 Classic

01:21:36.520 The guy who wrote Dreams from My Father

01:21:40.160 Of course, he's a little prolix

01:21:41.920 All right, whatever

01:21:43.100 We'll get to it in a second

01:21:44.400 I want to talk to Harmeet Dillon first

01:21:46.020 We have Harmeet

01:21:48.380 A member of the Republican National Committee

01:21:51.180 Former Vice Chairman of the California Republican Party

01:21:53.580 Just all around GOP guru

01:21:55.860 Harmeet, thank you for taking the time

01:21:58.100 Absolutely

01:21:59.460 Thanks for having me

01:22:00.460 So

01:22:01.020 Were you surprised?

01:22:02.480 I'm about 15% surprised

01:22:05.040 Well, I think

01:22:09.460 It's been

01:22:11.040 Sort of a crazy whiplash

01:22:12.880 Over the last few days

01:22:14.080 Dems have clearly been trying to push Biden out

01:22:17.120 For a period of weeks

01:22:18.220 And if not months

01:22:19.680 Some of them months, I suspect

01:22:21.040 And they set up this debate early

01:22:22.980 To do that

01:22:23.720 And yet Biden didn't want to go

01:22:25.920 So there was a widespread speculation

01:22:27.720 At the RNC convention last week

01:22:30.060 As to how they're going to pull it off

01:22:31.540 They needed to get him out of the way

01:22:33.720 He didn't want to go

01:22:35.020 So there will be fascinating books

01:22:37.180 Written about the last 48 hours

01:22:39.280 In politics, I'm sure

01:22:40.740 Of course

01:22:41.980 Of course

01:22:42.560 So, you know

01:22:44.680 Not only are you a politico

01:22:46.960 You know, with a lot of influence

01:22:49.420 In the Republican Party

01:22:50.660 But you actually have a hard skill

01:22:52.660 Which is that you're a lawyer

01:22:54.000 So I'm curious about

01:22:55.920 What happens legally at this point

01:22:57.480 You know

01:22:57.740 The parties can run their own primaries

01:23:01.460 And their conventions

01:23:02.280 And they can pick their nominee

01:23:03.840 And there are some rules around that

01:23:05.800 There are laws pertaining to ballot access

01:23:08.960 Who gets on the general election ballot

01:23:11.800 Come November

01:23:12.500 We've heard now

01:23:14.060 That some states

01:23:15.020 Notably Ohio

01:23:15.920 Have ballot deadlines

01:23:17.560 Earlier than the Democratic National Convention

01:23:19.880 This is all before Biden

01:23:20.860 Even dropped out of the race

01:23:21.940 So just in terms of the nuts and bolts of it

01:23:24.740 How does Kamala become the nominee now?

01:23:27.840 If she is to become the nominee

01:23:29.160 And if not

01:23:30.300 How does someone else do it?

01:23:32.480 Well, the super Democrat lawyer

01:23:37.840 Mark Elias just tweeted out

01:23:39.640 That to be clear

01:23:41.060 There is no ballot access issue

01:23:42.540 And whoever the nominee is

01:23:44.400 Will be on the ballot in all 50 states

01:23:46.520 I think they're going to have to litigate

01:23:47.800 To do that in at least a couple of places

01:23:49.400 But it's correct that in most states

01:23:50.840 There's going to be no problem

01:23:53.320 I think their bigger problem

01:23:54.760 And by the way

01:23:55.360 People have also asked about

01:23:56.520 Campaign finance issues

01:23:57.680 And so forth

01:23:58.220 Dems can transfer that Biden money

01:24:01.060 To a super PAC

01:24:02.100 And start raising money all over again

01:24:04.160 And arm twist

01:24:04.740 The same billionaires

01:24:07.360 To hand over cash to them

01:24:09.300 So in a way

01:24:10.360 That's a fundraising advantage

01:24:11.600 Which I think Republicans need to understand

01:24:13.700 Is that Dems can raise even more money

01:24:15.820 By

01:24:16.580 So are you saying

01:24:17.420 That even money that is in a campaign pack

01:24:20.980 That they could transfer that out

01:24:22.740 To a super PAC

01:24:23.840 That could support

01:24:24.620 I guess any candidate that wanted to

01:24:27.120 Is it that simple?

01:24:29.200 They can just

01:24:29.760 Absolutely

01:24:30.380 It's a dark money slush fund now

01:24:32.600 And they can just start all over again

01:24:34.060 Fresh

01:24:34.440 Absolutely

01:24:34.960 So that's not an impediment

01:24:36.920 And in fact

01:24:37.900 You know Republicans are always gloating

01:24:39.520 Oh we raise more money than the Democrats

01:24:40.840 Hey the Democrats raise more money than us

01:24:42.920 Consistently

01:24:43.500 They do it through dark means

01:24:44.800 They do it through pseudo non-profits

01:24:46.840 They do it 19 different ways

01:24:48.560 That the RNC never even dreamed about

01:24:50.380 Which is one of the reasons why

01:24:51.600 You know I wanted to run last year

01:24:53.720 And change our system

01:24:55.980 But anyway

01:24:56.840 Here we are today

01:24:57.880 And I think that

01:24:58.780 We should not be

01:24:59.860 As much as Kamala Harris is

01:25:03.080 And I've seen her up close

01:25:04.280 I'm doing this interview from San Francisco

01:25:05.940 Where I've lived for

01:25:06.900 Almost 25 years

01:25:08.260 I've seen her up close

01:25:09.260 She is a lightweight

01:25:10.540 She is a joke

01:25:11.760 She is a DEI hire

01:25:13.340 And throughout her career

01:25:14.440 But

01:25:15.320 She's not really the problem here

01:25:17.660 Look at the Fetterman election

01:25:20.300 Look at Joe Biden getting elected

01:25:22.020 The Democrats

01:25:23.000 Are with their chokehold

01:25:25.920 On the electoral system

01:25:27.600 And dark money

01:25:28.680 They have a formidable advantage

01:25:30.840 In that sense

01:25:31.520 And they can get any puppet elected

01:25:33.780 And so

01:25:34.200 We need to be super focused

01:25:36.440 As Republicans

01:25:37.560 Reaching out across the aisle

01:25:39.800 To disaffected Democrat voters

01:25:42.120 Every voter who voted for Joe Biden

01:25:44.660 In the primary

01:25:45.580 15 million of them

01:25:46.980 Should feel betrayed right now

01:25:48.800 And I think there are opportunities

01:25:50.580 To pick up votes over there

01:25:52.460 And there are opportunities

01:25:53.300 To pick up people

01:25:54.640 Who are turned off by

01:25:55.860 DEI politics

01:25:57.720 And the Biden administration

01:26:00.720 And so I think there's just

01:26:01.880 A lot of opportunities here

01:26:02.900 But we have to be very disciplined

01:26:03.960 To the party

01:26:04.520 Very united

01:26:05.220 And really the unity

01:26:07.640 That I saw at the RNC convention

01:26:09.540 We have to be super disciplined

01:26:11.240 And stick to that

01:26:12.760 And continue to rack up victories

01:26:14.680 And pick up voters

01:26:15.640 Because I think

01:26:16.180 I think the time is primed for that

01:26:17.940 Americans are sick

01:26:18.860 And tired

01:26:19.860 Of the fentanyl

01:26:21.160 Of the open border

01:26:22.400 Of the high inflation

01:26:23.780 Of not being able to afford groceries

01:26:25.500 Of the extremism

01:26:26.960 Of ninth term abortions

01:26:28.360 And of the

01:26:28.860 Insistence

01:26:30.300 That it should be legal

01:26:31.880 And okay

01:26:32.740 To mutilate American children

01:26:34.340 And have men take girls' trophies

01:26:37.060 All of these things

01:26:37.920 Are antithetical to America

01:26:39.500 And we have a lot of opportunities

01:26:40.720 If we stay united

01:26:41.960 It's a really great point

01:26:43.320 On DEI, Harmeet

01:26:44.620 Which is that

01:26:45.140 You know

01:26:45.360 This past week

01:26:46.240 Some have said

01:26:47.500 It's the death of DEI

01:26:49.640 Because of the absolute failure

01:26:52.660 Of the Secret Service director

01:26:54.700 To protect President Trump

01:26:56.140 Nearly assassinated

01:26:57.220 A week ago exactly

01:26:59.180 And she has been

01:27:02.000 A large proponent

01:27:03.080 Of DEI

01:27:04.260 She said she wanted to make

01:27:05.060 The Secret Service

01:27:05.900 30% female by 2030

01:27:07.500 And it seems like

01:27:08.940 That's the culmination

01:27:10.260 Of this really poisonous

01:27:11.360 Ideology of DEI

01:27:12.560 Which almost ended up

01:27:13.660 Getting the most popular

01:27:15.140 Presidential candidate

01:27:15.880 In 2024

01:27:16.440 A former president himself

01:27:17.700 Killed

01:27:18.420 So this would be

01:27:19.640 The time to focus on that

01:27:21.040 And Joe Biden

01:27:22.140 Explicitly picked

01:27:24.300 Kamala Harris

01:27:24.920 As a DEI

01:27:26.100 Running mate

01:27:27.040 He said

01:27:27.520 I'm going to pick

01:27:28.020 A black woman

01:27:28.600 Which black woman

01:27:29.560 I don't know

01:27:30.120 But I'm going to pick

01:27:30.700 A black woman

01:27:31.200 I'm going to pick her

01:27:32.240 Specifically based on

01:27:33.840 Her sex

01:27:34.660 And her skin color

01:27:35.480 He had

01:27:36.000 Looked like he had

01:27:36.540 Three choices

01:27:37.080 Back in 2020

01:27:37.920 Kamala Harris

01:27:39.100 Karen Bass

01:27:40.000 Who's an actual communist

01:27:41.040 And Susan Rice

01:27:42.140 Who was the fall man

01:27:42.760 For Benghazi

01:27:43.380 So Kamala kind of

01:27:44.500 Got it by default

01:27:45.520 DEI

01:27:47.660 And the

01:27:48.660 You know

01:27:48.900 The tangible consequences

01:27:50.360 Of that woke ideology

01:27:51.500 It's a pretty good

01:27:52.660 Campaign issue

01:27:53.200 Harmeet

01:27:53.640 I'm going to let you go

01:27:54.180 I'm sure you're going to be

01:27:54.760 On a zillion other shows

01:27:56.020 Probably right now

01:27:56.880 But thank you so much

01:27:57.880 For taking the time

01:27:59.000 Thanks for having me

01:28:00.880 Before I let all of you go

01:28:02.440 Here's Obama's statement

01:28:03.440 Joe Biden

01:28:03.820 It's so long

01:28:04.520 I'm going to try to shorten

01:28:05.660 This verbose

01:28:07.780 Blabber mouth

01:28:09.400 Joe Biden has been

01:28:10.360 One of America's

01:28:11.060 Most consequential presidents

01:28:12.080 As well as a dear friend

01:28:13.020 And partner to me

01:28:13.840 Today we've also

01:28:14.840 Been reminded again

01:28:15.800 That he's a patriot

01:28:16.500 Of the highest order

01:28:17.260 Sixteen years ago

01:28:19.680 When I began

01:28:20.200 I really liked Biden

01:28:21.300 Since taking office

01:28:22.280 Boy isn't he great

01:28:23.500 More than that

01:28:24.200 He's pointed us away

01:28:25.080 From how bad Trump is

01:28:26.520 I'm paraphrasing

01:28:27.700 But only slightly

01:28:28.540 This outstanding track record

01:28:30.720 Gave Biden

01:28:32.060 Every right to run

01:28:32.960 Except his brain

01:28:33.560 Turned to pudding

01:28:34.120 So he's not going to run

01:28:35.200 He never backed down

01:28:36.100 From a fight

01:28:36.840 Blah blah blah

01:28:38.420 We're going to be

01:28:38.960 Navigating uncharted waters

01:28:40.100 In the days ahead

01:28:41.000 But I have

01:28:41.560 Extraordinary confidence

01:28:42.440 That the leaders

01:28:43.360 Of our party

01:28:43.840 Will be able to

01:28:44.460 Create a process

01:28:45.260 From which an

01:28:46.040 Outstanding nominee

01:28:46.920 Emerges

01:28:47.420 So notice

01:28:47.960 No endorsement of Kamala

01:28:49.620 This is going to fuel

01:28:50.500 The flames of

01:28:51.520 Michelle's going to

01:28:52.720 Sweep in and take it

01:28:53.660 He says for now

01:28:54.760 Michelle and I

01:28:55.460 Just want to express

01:28:56.040 Our love and gratitude

01:28:56.720 To Joe and Jill

01:28:57.400 Interesting

01:28:57.920 So two people

01:28:58.900 Who came out

01:28:59.860 Thank Joe

01:29:00.460 But didn't

01:29:01.640 Endorse Kamala Harris

01:29:03.280 Or sorry

01:29:04.500 Two families

01:29:05.760 One of which

01:29:06.700 Includes two people

01:29:07.520 Thank you

01:29:08.520 Professor Jacob

01:29:09.260 Handing me even

01:29:09.880 More statements

01:29:10.400 Coming in

01:29:10.860 One is

01:29:12.080 Gavin Newsom

01:29:12.900 Who obviously

01:29:13.520 Wants to be

01:29:14.080 The running

01:29:14.380 Who obviously

01:29:15.260 Wants to be

01:29:15.640 The nominee

01:29:16.000 And now

01:29:17.780 This is going to

01:29:18.360 Fuel those

01:29:19.220 Fever dreams

01:29:21.160 And fantasies

01:29:21.980 Is Michelle

01:29:22.500 Going to be

01:29:23.000 The nominee

01:29:23.840 And then a statement

01:29:24.900 Finally from Kamala Harris

01:29:26.200 Who is endorsed

01:29:27.780 By Biden

01:29:28.420 On behalf of

01:29:30.240 The American people

01:29:30.900 I thank Joe Biden

01:29:31.760 For his extraordinary

01:29:32.300 Leadership as

01:29:32.940 President of the

01:29:33.400 United States

01:29:33.840 And for his

01:29:34.200 Decades of service

01:29:34.840 To our country

01:29:35.380 His remarkable

01:29:36.320 Legacy of accomplishment

01:29:37.100 Is unmatched

01:29:37.680 In modern American

01:29:38.620 History

01:29:39.080 Surpassing the

01:29:40.100 Legacy of many

01:29:40.600 Presidents who

01:29:41.080 Have served two

01:29:41.560 Terms in office

01:29:42.160 Yeah

01:29:42.540 Okay

01:29:43.340 The guy

01:29:45.360 The guy

01:29:45.940 Can barely

01:29:46.320 Make it

01:29:46.660 Through one

01:29:47.240 It is

01:29:49.700 A

01:29:50.280 Profound honor

01:29:51.560 To serve

01:29:52.040 As his

01:29:52.560 Vice president

01:29:53.140 And I'm

01:29:53.720 Deeply grateful

01:29:54.280 To the

01:29:54.540 President

01:29:54.780 Dr.

01:29:55.180 Biden

01:29:55.360 And the

01:29:55.540 Entire

01:29:55.780 Biden

01:29:56.040 Family

01:29:56.380 I first

01:29:57.040 Came to

01:29:57.340 Know

01:29:57.500 President

01:29:57.820 Biden

01:29:58.080 Through

01:29:58.260 His

01:29:58.400 Son

01:29:58.560 Beau

01:29:58.880 We were

01:29:59.500 Friends

01:29:59.820 From our

01:30:00.120 Days

01:30:00.300 Working

01:30:00.540 Together

01:30:00.920 As

01:30:01.260 Attorneys

01:30:01.640 General

01:30:02.060 Of our

01:30:03.180 Home

01:30:03.480 States

01:30:03.720 Also

01:30:04.080 Weird

01:30:04.400 Capitalization

01:30:05.080 There

01:30:05.300 Whoever

01:30:05.780 Wrote

01:30:06.220 All of

01:30:06.740 These

01:30:06.920 Statements

01:30:07.420 For

01:30:07.720 The

01:30:07.880 Democrats

01:30:08.340 Today

01:30:08.740 Has

01:30:09.660 The

01:30:10.060 I don't

01:30:11.320 Want to

01:30:11.540 Sound

01:30:11.700 Like it

01:30:11.960 Gets

01:30:12.080 Weird

01:30:12.220 But

01:30:15.360 Makes

01:30:18.700 The

01:30:18.860 Whole

01:30:19.000 Thing

01:30:19.220 Seem

01:30:19.420 Even

01:30:19.580 Stranger

01:30:20.000 Anyway

01:30:21.840 Like

01:30:22.140 Joe

01:30:22.400 Like

01:30:22.640 Beau

01:30:22.980 With

01:30:23.940 This

01:30:24.100 Selfless

01:30:24.440 And

01:30:24.560 Patriotic

01:30:24.900 Act

01:30:25.080 President

01:30:25.340 Biden

01:30:25.600 Is

01:30:25.740 Doing

01:30:25.920 What

01:30:26.060 He

01:30:26.120 Has

01:30:26.220 Done

01:30:26.400 Throughout

01:30:26.680 His

01:30:26.880 Life

01:30:27.100 Of

01:30:27.220 Service

01:30:27.440 Putting

01:30:27.680 The

01:30:27.780 American

01:30:27.960 People

01:30:28.300 And

01:30:28.740 Our

01:30:28.920 Country

01:30:29.180 Above

01:30:29.400 Everything

01:30:29.640 Else

01:30:29.980 I'm

01:30:31.000 Honored to

01:30:31.280 Have

01:30:31.340 The

01:30:31.460 President's

01:30:31.820 Endorsement

01:30:32.240 My

01:30:32.380 Intention

01:30:32.620 Is

01:30:32.760 To

01:30:32.860 Earn

01:30:33.080 And

01:30:33.220 Win

01:30:33.340 This

01:30:33.500 Nomination

01:30:33.980 Over

01:30:34.600 The

01:30:34.700 Past

01:30:34.880 Year

01:30:35.040 I've

01:30:35.180 Traveled

01:30:35.400 Across

01:30:35.620 The

01:30:35.760 Country

01:30:36.020 Talking

01:30:36.360 With

01:30:36.500 Americans

01:30:36.880 About

01:30:37.220 The

01:30:37.360 Clear

01:30:37.500 Choice

01:30:37.760 In

01:30:37.860 This

01:30:37.960 Momentous

01:30:38.340 Election

01:30:38.660 That

01:30:39.680 Is

01:30:39.780 What

01:30:39.900 I

01:30:39.980 Will

01:30:40.080 Continue

01:30:40.400 To

01:30:40.600 Do

01:30:40.800 In

01:30:41.800 The

01:30:41.900 Days

01:30:42.080 And

01:30:42.220 Weeks

01:30:42.440 Ahead

01:30:42.620 I

01:30:42.720 Will

01:30:42.800 Do

01:30:42.920 Everything

01:30:43.200 In

01:30:43.300 My

01:30:43.400 Power

01:30:43.580 To

01:30:43.720 Unite

01:30:43.900 The

01:30:44.040 Democratic

01:30:44.320 Party

01:30:44.660 And

01:30:45.160 Unite

01:30:45.740 Our

01:30:45.960 Nation

01:30:46.380 To

01:30:47.020 And

01:30:47.760 Then

01:30:47.980 My

01:30:48.300 Producer

01:30:48.640 Didn't

01:30:48.880 Give me

01:30:49.140 The

01:30:49.380 The

01:30:49.580 Rest

01:30:49.800 Of

01:30:49.920 The

01:30:50.020 Statement

01:30:50.280 But

01:30:50.440 I

01:30:50.540 Think

01:30:50.660 I

01:30:50.760 Can

01:30:50.860 Pull

01:30:51.000 It

01:30:51.080 Up

01:30:51.200 On

01:30:51.300 The

01:30:51.380 Internet

01:30:51.600 So

01:30:51.760 That's

01:30:51.900 fine

01:30:52.140 To

01:30:53.200 Defeat

01:30:55.240 Donald

01:30:55.480 Trump

01:30:55.740 And

01:30:55.860 His

01:30:55.960 Extreme

01:30:56.320 Project

01:30:56.720 2025

01:30:57.220 Agenda

01:30:57.640 So

01:30:57.800 Here

01:30:57.960 Again

01:30:58.300 The

01:30:59.100 Democrats

01:30:59.560 Know

01:30:59.940 They

01:31:00.180 Don't

01:31:00.960 Really

01:31:01.240 Do

01:31:01.440 That

01:31:01.640 Well

01:31:01.940 Anymore

01:31:02.380 Running

01:31:02.800 Against

01:31:03.280 Trump

01:31:03.660 So

01:31:03.800 They're

01:31:03.920 Running

01:31:04.080 Against

01:31:04.240 Project

01:31:04.660 2025

01:31:05.160 Which

01:31:05.940 Is

01:31:06.300 A

01:31:06.500 Personnel

01:31:07.620 Program

01:31:10.120 From

01:31:10.580 The

01:31:10.740 Heritage

01:31:10.960 Foundation

01:31:11.380 The

01:31:11.620 Most

01:31:11.800 Established

01:31:12.340 Right

01:31:12.700 Wing

01:31:12.840 Think

01:31:13.040 Tank

01:31:13.340 And

01:31:13.760 It's

01:31:14.180 Terrific

01:31:15.060 But

01:31:15.300 Trump

01:31:17.080 Has

01:31:17.560 Pointed

01:31:17.880 Out

01:31:18.000 He's

01:31:18.180 Not

01:31:18.320 Directly

01:31:18.580 Involved

01:31:18.860 In

01:31:18.980 It

01:31:19.080 He's

01:31:19.240 Distanced

01:31:19.540 Himself

01:31:19.780 From

01:31:20.020 It

01:31:20.120 So

01:31:20.260 That

01:31:20.940 Again

01:31:21.200 It

01:31:21.360 Seems

01:31:21.540 Like

01:31:21.700 They're

01:31:21.840 Grasping

01:31:22.200 At

01:31:22.340 Straws

01:31:22.780 We

01:31:23.120 Have

01:31:23.200 107

01:31:23.600 Days

01:31:23.980 Until

01:31:24.640 Election

01:31:25.000 Day

01:31:25.180 Together

01:31:25.500 We

01:31:25.720 Will

01:31:25.860 Fight

01:31:26.180 And

01:31:26.360 Together

01:31:26.820 We

01:31:27.940 Will

01:31:28.240 Win

01:31:28.700 Says

01:31:29.960 Kamala

01:31:30.500 Sounds

01:31:31.240 A lot

01:31:31.600 Like

01:31:32.000 She

01:31:32.360 Is

01:31:32.520 Already

01:31:32.820 The

01:31:33.000 Nominee

01:31:33.420 It's

01:31:35.040 Changing

01:31:35.360 By

01:31:35.540 The

01:31:35.660 Minute

01:31:35.820 That's

01:31:36.060 All

01:31:36.260 That's

01:31:36.620 All

01:31:36.740 We

01:31:36.880 Will

01:31:36.980 Be

01:31:37.100 Discussing

01:31:37.620 Today

01:31:37.980 Tune

01:31:38.260 Into

01:31:38.400 The

01:31:38.520 Michael

01:31:38.700 Knowles

01:31:38.900 Show

01:31:39.040 Tomorrow

01:31:39.320 You

01:31:39.480 Get

01:31:39.600 More

01:31:39.820 Of

01:31:39.960 It

01:31:40.080 I'm

01:31:40.340 Michael

01:31:40.580 Knowles

01:31:41.100 For

01:31:41.400 The

01:31:41.560 Daily

01:31:41.780 Wire

01:31:42.180 See

01:31:43.740 You

01:31:44.080 When

01:31:44.440 The

01:31:44.560 Next

01:31:44.860 Shoe

01:31:45.200 Drops

The Michael Knowles Show - July 21, 2024

Breaking： Biden Exits Presidential Race

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