The Michael Knowles Show


D.C American Horror Story | Lila Rose


Summary

Pro-Life activists in Washington, D.C. have been photographed with the remains of five babies who appear to have been killed by abortion. The remains are in the custody of the Medical Examiner's Office, but no autopsy has been performed.


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00:00:37.680 A few days ago, I saw in my Twitter timeline the most disturbing news story I think I have ever seen.
00:00:47.960 And this came to me by way of my friend Lila Rose.
00:00:51.120 Lila Rose, the founder of Live Action.
00:00:53.000 It was a series of photographs of babies, obviously babies.
00:01:00.840 No question whatsoever, full-term babies who had been killed.
00:01:05.500 And they had been killed apparently through abortion.
00:01:09.340 And there was a whistleblower, I guess, at this abortion clinic.
00:01:13.260 And you could see the photos with your own eyes.
00:01:16.380 And the police became involved and there was an investigation.
00:01:22.200 And the craziest part was, beyond obviously the actions themselves,
00:01:29.580 the craziest part was the police were investigating the whistleblower.
00:01:35.020 They were not investigating the people who killed the babies that we could see with our own eyes.
00:01:41.240 They were investigating and persecuting, frankly, the people who would ever suggest
00:01:48.680 that maybe there's something wrong with this.
00:01:51.620 Joining me to discuss is my friend Lila Rose.
00:01:54.900 Lila, thank you for being here.
00:01:56.800 Good to see you, Michael.
00:01:58.160 So I really don't know anything about this story.
00:02:02.260 Here's what I know.
00:02:03.020 I know that five babies were photographed as having been killed.
00:02:07.720 I know this took place in Washington, D.C.
00:02:09.980 I know that the remains of the babies were found at a pro-life activist's home.
00:02:16.000 And I know the D.C. police are letting the abortionists off the hook and going after the pro-lifer.
00:02:22.180 What happened?
00:02:24.140 So to begin with, as you mentioned, there are the remains of five children.
00:02:28.960 So these are five babies who some of them were nearly full term.
00:02:33.140 All of them appear to be viable.
00:02:34.960 When you look at the documentation, and Live Action was invited to do photographic and video
00:02:40.560 documentation of the remains of these five precious children, almost a dozen medical experts have
00:02:46.440 been consulted and have said that they believe that at least two of these children may have
00:02:50.480 been born alive, viable babies, born alive and then left to die or killed.
00:02:55.340 That one little baby girl in particular, about 28 weeks old, who has severe trauma to her body.
00:03:01.620 Her neck was cut.
00:03:02.620 Her brain suctioned out.
00:03:04.300 That appears to be an illegal partial birth abortion, a violation of federal law.
00:03:08.700 So we're talking about two federal laws that may have been violated here just by looking
00:03:12.400 at the remains of these children and also D.C. statute against illegal abortions.
00:03:16.600 The two federal laws in question are the ban on partial birth abortion, the Partial Birth
00:03:21.380 Abortion Ban Act, and then the law called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which
00:03:25.540 ensures that a child, if they are born alive in an abortion clinic, which can happen in a late
00:03:30.380 term abortion procedure, that that baby gets the medical care and the life that they deserve.
00:03:36.100 So the bodies are right now, the remains are in the custody of the D.C. police and the
00:03:40.560 medical examiner's office.
00:03:42.220 They initially said, well, this is no illegal abortion.
00:03:45.300 There was a press conference last week.
00:03:47.140 But then the next day, Washington Post is reporting that the medical examiner and the D.C.
00:03:51.180 police have said that there has been no autopsy, no thorough medical examination has been performed.
00:03:57.440 So they're claiming that there's nothing illegal here without even autopsying the victim's bodies.
00:04:04.440 And then meanwhile, the pro-life activists at the heart of the story, in particular, Lauren
00:04:09.040 Handy and other activists from another group, they're the ones that came into possession of
00:04:14.960 this box of these aborted children's remains that was given to them by a whistleblower.
00:04:19.840 According to them, they they were the ones who worked with D.C. police to hand over these
00:04:24.300 bodies.
00:04:24.680 So there's this news narrative right now.
00:04:26.840 If anyone has been following the story by mainstream press that the police raided the
00:04:30.980 pro-lifers apartment and these crazy pro-lifers.
00:04:33.740 It is absolutely dishonest.
00:04:36.100 It's a complete and utter lie.
00:04:38.140 The pro-life activists are doing a public service by intercepting the remains of these
00:04:42.180 children who are likely illegally killed.
00:04:43.920 They wanted to give them a proper burial.
00:04:45.740 They wanted justice to be served.
00:04:47.620 And a whistleblower was involved.
00:04:49.540 And then they are working with D.C.
00:04:51.460 police, inviting them to come to their home to say, look at these remains and please have
00:04:56.040 justice be served.
00:04:56.940 And then instead of serving justice right now, D.C.
00:05:00.180 Mayor Bauer, D.C.
00:05:02.340 police, the D.C.
00:05:03.200 medical examiner are sitting on the evidence and no action has been taken to investigate
00:05:08.060 the real criminal here.
00:05:10.400 I believe criminal, which is Cesare Santangelo, an abortionist operating with impunity in the
00:05:16.500 District of Columbia, committing late term abortions and infanticide on innocent, helpless
00:05:21.540 children.
00:05:22.380 What was his name again?
00:05:23.680 What was his name?
00:05:24.100 Cesare Santangelo is the abortionist.
00:05:26.180 Cesare Santangelo?
00:05:28.460 Cesare Santangelo.
00:05:30.040 And remember Kermit Gosnell?
00:05:31.720 Remember the butcher of Philadelphia, the House of Horrors, this abortionist that's thankfully
00:05:36.400 behind bars because he was also committing infanticide.
00:05:39.280 I mean, I think any abortionist, it should be illegal.
00:05:41.860 A child in or outside of the womb, same value, same worth.
00:05:44.980 You don't get worth upon birth.
00:05:46.620 You get worth the moment you become a human being, the moment you exist as an embryo.
00:05:51.820 But Cesare Santangelo is the butcher of D.C.
00:05:55.020 He is the Kermit Gosnell of Washington, D.C.
00:05:59.600 Remember, Kermit Gosnell was operating for three decades.
00:06:02.280 He even killed a woman, medical malpractice, committing infanticide.
00:06:06.720 Authorities turned a blind eye until finally they did their job after three decades.
00:06:11.220 That's what's happening here with Cesare Santangelo.
00:06:13.860 And the reason it's happening is because the D.C. mayor, because the D.C. police, and because
00:06:18.740 Congress and our president and his administration, many of them are pro-abortion.
00:06:23.020 And they don't care about infanticide.
00:06:24.440 They don't care about children's lives.
00:06:25.920 They care about defending their political ideology.
00:06:28.260 I am pro-life, as you know.
00:06:31.600 You are pro-life.
00:06:32.740 I was not always pro-life.
00:06:34.480 I, when I was a teenager, even up to maybe some time, I forget exactly when I was convinced
00:06:41.200 of this, maybe early 20, 21.
00:06:44.380 Certainly, though, for my teenage years, I just, I saw nothing wrong with it.
00:06:47.860 I didn't think about it very much.
00:06:49.300 I grew up in a very liberal place, New York, then ended up going to a very liberal college.
00:06:53.540 And it just didn't occur to me.
00:06:54.740 I thought those pro-lifers are crazy.
00:06:56.120 They just want to control women.
00:06:58.340 I was convinced to be pro-life by a bioethicist having an ordinary conversation over a cup
00:07:04.880 of coffee.
00:07:06.060 Had I not been, had I remained pro-abortion, and then I saw these images, I don't think
00:07:14.000 it would be possible to continue to support legal abortion.
00:07:17.580 When I saw the image, I only made it through two of them, and I had to stop looking.
00:07:21.140 When I saw the images, I thought, do I retweet this?
00:07:24.920 It's an important story, maybe the most important story in the country right now, that no one
00:07:29.620 wants to talk about.
00:07:30.680 Or do I not, because it's so horrifying.
00:07:33.060 And I thought, when I posted it, I said, if you are a pro-lifer, and you do not support
00:07:41.380 legal abortion, and you know where you stand, and you know the reality of this issue, don't
00:07:46.000 look at it.
00:07:46.480 It's going to give you nightmares.
00:07:47.820 Don't look at it.
00:07:48.560 If you, in any way, support legal abortion, and you're comfortable with that position,
00:07:55.200 look at every single one of these pictures and tell me you still support that.
00:07:58.980 I think you would have to be a stone-cold sociopath to look at these photos and continue to support
00:08:06.800 abortion, much less like somebody, and write this name down, post this name on the roof,
00:08:12.920 on billboards, post this name on Cesare Santangelo, this psycho, this butcher, this serial killer,
00:08:21.320 this stone-cold murderer who would do this.
00:08:24.400 You would have to be completely devoid of any human feeling to do this or to endorse it.
00:08:32.200 I mean, you're right, Michael.
00:08:34.300 You're absolutely right.
00:08:35.440 And yes, it is devastating to look at the aftermath of a child that's been mangled,
00:08:41.540 that's been tortured to death.
00:08:43.020 I mean, two of the babies were completely dismembered, and you know, it's possible they were dismembered
00:08:48.640 while alive.
00:08:50.120 You know, typically, the abortionist may try to do a lethal injection first and then dismember
00:08:53.980 the child, but sometimes they just are sloppy.
00:08:56.300 And Cesare Santangelo, we've been investigating him for a decade.
00:08:59.020 He's sloppy.
00:09:00.180 He doesn't care.
00:09:01.380 He's there to kill, and he'll do it whatever is the easiest means for him.
00:09:04.560 So, living dismemberment, excruciating of an infant, this baby, one of the baby girls
00:09:11.080 that looks like she was dismembered, that was dismembered, they are estimating about 30
00:09:15.020 weeks old.
00:09:16.000 30 weeks old.
00:09:17.800 That's who they're caring for in neonatal intensive care units across the country.
00:09:23.860 And then in abortionists across the country, that same baby girl can be dismembered while
00:09:28.660 alive.
00:09:29.860 Yes, it's devastating.
00:09:31.280 I mean, I've been a pro-life activist for over 15 years now, and I'm devastated.
00:09:36.680 I'm broken all over again.
00:09:38.320 But listen, if we're pro-life, we should allow ourselves to be broken by this.
00:09:42.560 And if we're not pro-life, we should become pro-life, and it should spur us to action.
00:09:46.720 Because I agree with you, Michael, I think this is the biggest story in the country.
00:09:50.920 We can talk about a war overseas.
00:09:51.800 We can talk about border crisis.
00:09:54.800 We can talk about the economy.
00:09:56.660 We can talk about all kinds of causes.
00:09:58.820 But how we treat children is the definition of who we are as a people.
00:10:03.140 And we are treating them savagely.
00:10:05.140 And our laws are permitting it in some cases.
00:10:07.860 Our authorities who should be intervening and protecting these children are permitting it.
00:10:12.180 And we cannot allow this to continue.
00:10:14.380 So, you know, one other note here.
00:10:16.780 Live Action has been investigating Cesare Santangelo for a decade.
00:10:20.560 This abortionist told us on undercover camera nine years ago.
00:10:24.620 This is the first time he admitted it on undercover camera.
00:10:26.840 That he would leave a born-alive infant in his facility to die.
00:10:31.940 He admitted on tape already he would commit infanticide.
00:10:34.320 And if you type in his abortion clinic name, anyone listening, if they're at their computer,
00:10:38.460 they want to type in Google this, Surgy, D.C. Surgy Center, or D.C. Surgy Health abortion.
00:10:47.320 The Google reviews for the business of this abortionist, two of them.
00:10:51.240 He has like two stars.
00:10:53.240 I mean, everybody who goes there, the women are just, you know, having a horrific experience
00:10:57.760 because he's running a chop shop.
00:10:58.960 So he's murdering babies and, you know, harming women.
00:11:02.400 But two of the Google reviews indicate that the women were concerned their babies were born alive,
00:11:07.540 going in for abortions.
00:11:09.140 And they even say in the Google review that their baby might have been born alive at 27 weeks.
00:11:14.100 You know, she had to go to the hospital.
00:11:16.020 She wasn't sure if they could resuscitate.
00:11:18.080 I mean, it is a blatantly obvious story of what's happening.
00:11:23.180 You could be the dumbest police officer or mayor or public official in the history of any civic system
00:11:30.540 and get that this is a serious crime that's being committed and we should do something about it.
00:11:36.140 He's taking thousands of dollars in exchange for dismembering living infants.
00:11:41.340 So how have we not done something about this?
00:11:44.100 How have we not put this murderer behind bars?
00:11:48.040 Even to this day, I believe he's at his clinic continuing this atrocity.
00:11:51.880 So, you know, I can't say strongly enough that we need to take action.
00:11:55.740 We can't just sit and, oh, what a horrible story, what horrible pictures.
00:11:58.520 We can change this by urging the political powers to do the right thing
00:12:04.740 and by exposing these evils that are taking place.
00:12:07.320 So you point out that the D.C. authorities are covering this up.
00:12:11.360 And of course they're covering it up.
00:12:12.600 They've been doing this for a long time, not just in D.C., but in lots of liberal cities.
00:12:16.820 They're not ignorant.
00:12:17.800 They know exactly what people knew what was going on in Gosnell's chop shop.
00:12:21.080 People knew what's going on in Sant'Angelo's chop shot.
00:12:24.240 And they're covering it up because they support abortion.
00:12:27.120 It's become, frankly, the sacrament of the left.
00:12:30.080 It's not just safe, legal, and rare, obviously.
00:12:32.360 It's shout it from the rooftops, have parades, have agilatory videos
00:12:38.900 about how wonderful it is to get abortion.
00:12:41.160 So they're covering it up.
00:12:43.080 They're obviously complicit.
00:12:45.080 You say that this guy almost certainly violated federal law.
00:12:49.620 What about D.C. law?
00:12:51.080 There are D.C. statutes against illegal abortions.
00:12:54.300 There are D.C. statutes against infanticide.
00:12:56.840 So this is not just, you know, a hot potato issue.
00:12:59.760 Oh, the feds have to take care of this.
00:13:01.400 I mean, there are D.C. laws that are being broken, too, I believe.
00:13:03.980 So this is, I mean, every single, you know, Tom, Dick, and Harry in law enforcement
00:13:08.780 or every single political figure that has any kind of responsibility should be alerted to this.
00:13:15.320 They are alerted, by the way.
00:13:16.380 They already all know we've been communicating with them.
00:13:18.400 And, you know, Congress sent them a letter last night.
00:13:21.280 Twenty-four members of the Senate and the House sent a letter to the mayor of D.C. urging action.
00:13:26.860 So they know, they know.
00:13:29.100 And the big question is, what will they do?
00:13:30.680 Because as far as we understand, the bodies are still, the remains are still in the possession of the D.C. police.
00:13:36.380 No autopsy has been performed.
00:13:38.580 No investigation is being done into Cesare Santangelo that we know of right now.
00:13:42.860 One other piece of information to add to this sordid story is that the medical waste company,
00:13:48.300 so the box of the remains of the children was intercepted from a medical waste company,
00:13:52.960 was given by a medical waste company driver to the pro-life activists.
00:13:57.040 And this company is called Curtis Bay, and they're based out of Maryland.
00:14:02.020 And, you know, on their website, as of last week, they said that they pride themselves
00:14:05.520 in doing cradle-to-grave recovery of biomedical waste that they then turn into renewable energy
00:14:12.060 that they would presumably power local businesses and neighborhoods with in the D.C. area.
00:14:18.000 So they're taking the remains, they were taking the remains of children
00:14:23.700 and incinerating them to turn them into renewable energy to then turn around and sell it.
00:14:30.500 And, you know, it's beyond, this is something you would read in a dystopian horror novel,
00:14:34.860 but this is what's happening.
00:14:36.940 And Curtis Bay, of course, has publicly said, oh, these are not our bodies, we don't do this,
00:14:41.620 and they actually took cradle-to-grave off their website.
00:14:44.580 We know whose bodies these are.
00:14:46.860 They're the kills of Cesare Santangelo, who's continuing to operate with impunity in D.C.
00:14:51.940 It's also the line, cradle-to-grave, is not true,
00:14:55.200 because in an even remotely anywhere close to just society,
00:14:59.920 when someone dies at any age, they're put in a grave.
00:15:02.800 Here, in this dystopia that we're living in, they're turned into energy to power our blenders,
00:15:10.000 to power our electric lights.
00:15:12.860 That is, I...
00:15:13.560 Sorry.
00:15:14.840 Yeah.
00:15:15.180 I mean, and that was another thing that I thought was so dishonest about media coverage of the story,
00:15:19.980 is there were some attacks, even from some self-professed pro-lifers,
00:15:25.380 or even some, I think, you know, kind of the more, they claim to have religious titles like Christians or Catholics,
00:15:32.080 folks that were saying, well, how dare the pro-life activists have the remains of these children?
00:15:36.520 And the reality is, the pro-life activists who were given these remains want to give them a proper burial.
00:15:42.300 They want justice for them.
00:15:43.420 So the people that are truly treating these children with dignity are the ones that are exposing the horror with which they were treated,
00:15:51.120 so that it stops and future children are not treated that way,
00:15:53.880 and that are trying to give these children a proper burial.
00:15:57.040 Because after being unceremoniously murdered, dismembered, treated torturously to death,
00:16:04.400 not loved and held like they deserved, but killed.
00:16:07.720 They were being sent to be burned and turned into energy at some biomedical incinerator.
00:16:14.560 I mean, it is...
00:16:16.400 There's no better story today in this country that reveals the depths of America's horror story that is abortion.
00:16:25.120 And it's playing out in our nation's capital, and it is incumbent on all of us to do something about it.
00:16:31.260 I love America.
00:16:32.840 I do.
00:16:33.200 I'm an American patriot.
00:16:34.400 I love my country.
00:16:35.140 I think it's good to love your country.
00:16:36.920 You know, my country is my country.
00:16:39.460 I could no more leave my country or deny my country than I could deny my own family.
00:16:43.660 It's really hard to love your country when you hear a story like this.
00:16:46.280 It's really hard.
00:16:47.520 You're talking about...
00:16:48.880 The thing about this story is that it's not unusual.
00:16:54.520 I guess that's the scariest part.
00:16:56.440 If it were unusual, if it were extraordinary, that would be one thing,
00:16:59.400 and you try to prosecute this killer, Santangelo.
00:17:02.920 So, but the problem and probably the reason that they're covering up for him is this is a perfectly quotidian story.
00:17:10.780 This happens all over the country every single day.
00:17:14.140 And so if you go after this guy, if the people in charge, if the ruling class admits that this guy is doing what he's doing,
00:17:21.420 which is slaughtering little babies, then they've got to go after all of the other ones too.
00:17:26.400 The craziest part, I guess, is that we're arguing over whether...
00:17:30.720 Is this a violation of federal law?
00:17:32.540 Was the baby killed five seconds after the baby came out or five seconds before it?
00:17:37.060 Because that's the decisive...
00:17:38.260 Well, what the hell is decisive about that?
00:17:40.020 It's the same baby.
00:17:40.900 It's five seconds.
00:17:42.400 Yeah, you're exactly right, Michael.
00:17:44.000 I mean, our laws are schizophrenic, but there are still technically laws against infanticide.
00:17:48.800 And shouldn't they matter?
00:17:49.760 I mean, apparently they don't, not to the D.C. mayor, not to Congress, not to Joe Biden and his administration right now,
00:17:55.820 not to the Department of Justice, the current Department of Justice.
00:17:58.700 But, you know, putting the story in context, you know, there have been several states in just the last month
00:18:04.700 that have tried to or are trying or have legalized or further codified abortion up until birth.
00:18:11.760 Colorado's governor, Jared Polis, just signed into law an act that will effectively legalize abortion through all nine months.
00:18:20.200 Any reason, no questions asked, no conscience protections for medical workers.
00:18:24.940 You know, they enshrined abortion as a right in their law, in Colorado state law.
00:18:28.580 So if you're a medical worker, you don't want to be participating in an abortion.
00:18:31.420 You're now, you know, denying a woman her right, including for any late-term abortion.
00:18:35.220 California, there was a bill on committee just yesterday that will permit not just abortion through all nine months in California,
00:18:42.000 which is largely already permitted, but also in the perinatal period, which can be up to weeks after a child is born.
00:18:49.760 And that would mean it decriminalizes the killing, the slaying, the neglect until death of a child even weeks after he or she is born.
00:18:58.020 I've got to pause you there.
00:18:59.220 A member of our staff told me this earlier, mentioned this to me.
00:19:03.540 I hadn't seen the news story, and I thought, oh, you know, look, I put nothing past the radicals these days, but she just got that wrong.
00:19:12.300 There is no way.
00:19:13.280 That's a little fantastical.
00:19:14.520 You've been spending a little too much time on the message boards.
00:19:17.340 You're telling me this is real.
00:19:18.680 Yeah, the law specifically states, and anybody could read it word for word.
00:19:22.920 Live Action News is reporting on this right now.
00:19:24.860 Go to liveactionnews.org.
00:19:26.120 The law specifically states that there will be no criminal penalties, that it's basically decriminalizing any action taken by a mother and her doctor with regard to her pregnancy, including in the perinatal period, which is both the weeks before birth and the weeks after birth.
00:19:45.380 So if they decide to withhold care from that infant, according to this California law, if it goes into effect, they cannot be held criminally responsible.
00:19:54.700 I used to make dark jokes, Lila.
00:19:56.860 I used to make sort of dark, when we talk about all the evils of the country, I said pretty soon the left is going to be endorsing fourth trimester abortion.
00:20:03.160 It's something that, even for the radicals, is just so beyond imagination.
00:20:08.520 And it's now being seriously proposed in California.
00:20:13.680 We've got to leave it there.
00:20:14.760 We're out of time.
00:20:16.460 Your work on this story has been incredible.
00:20:19.180 The work of Lauren Handy, did you say her name is?
00:20:22.920 The pro-life activist is just absolutely incredible.
00:20:25.900 Where can people read more about this, and where can they find you?
00:20:28.660 Thank you.
00:20:29.260 Liveaction.org is the website.
00:20:30.580 I'm Lila Grace Rose on Twitter and tweeting reports on this all day long.
00:20:34.960 And there's action items that people can take to make a difference here.
00:20:37.960 But I so appreciate you covering it.
00:20:39.340 I know it's hard.
00:20:40.160 I mean, it's devastating.
00:20:41.460 But we can make a difference here in saving the lives of children.
00:20:44.800 I think we all should.
00:20:45.600 That's great work.
00:20:46.380 Lila, thank you, as always, for coming on.
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