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00:01:12.200 Welcome to the Daily Wire. I ran so far away. We're going to be talking about Gervais bombing 1.00

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00:03:00.660 right now during the show. With all that out of the way, what are we going to talk about?

00:03:05.240 Is there anything happening? Could we just do another really long, extended pun on the word

00:03:12.640 Iran? Yeah, that'll play. This is great because we can all praise President Trump.

00:03:19.060 Absolutely. We're all on Team Trump today. This is a major, major foreign policy victory. I mean,

00:03:24.420 the best really since Osama bought it. I think in some ways it's better than Osama buying it, 0.89

00:03:29.700 only because when it comes to Osama buying it, that was the culmination of a very long war

00:03:34.140 against a series of terrorists and terror groups. And killing bin Laden degraded capacity,

00:03:40.160 but not as much as killing Soleimani did for Iran. Beyond that, Iran was on the upswing in some ways,

00:03:46.320 whereas al-Qaeda was already on the downswing by the time that bin Laden was killed. And also,

00:03:49.840 there was no division in terms of strategy about bin Laden. I was always confused when people were

00:03:53.520 saying, that's the bravest move in the world that Obama said, go for it. What exactly would the choice

00:03:57.320 have been? Not go for it and leave the guy alive? He's the most wanted person on planet Earth.

00:04:00.680 When it comes to this, this was a very fraught move that President Trump took.

00:04:04.400 And the media are the real story here, really even more so than Iran. This was all perfectly 1.00

00:04:10.420 predictable if you understand international politics 101. This was all fairly predictable

00:04:15.060 because this was just deterrence. Deterrence has been foreign policy for everyone for thousands of

00:04:19.980 years. It's very easy to understand. Somebody says, they're going to hurt you. And you say,

00:04:23.580 well, if you do that, then I'm going to end you. And that's called deterrence. And this has been a

00:04:26.980 feature of foreign policy for all of American history, for all of world history, actually.

00:04:30.620 Barack Obama spent eight years lying that deterrence was not a possibility with Iran.

00:04:33.980 His entire premise was that we had two choices as the United States. One was to sign giant checks to

00:04:39.100 a terror regime so they could use that money for terrorism and ballistic missile development.

00:04:43.280 And then to pretend that we had somehow mitigated the threat by allowing them to build nuclear weapons

00:04:48.540 after 10 years with the additional economic strength, with the additional terrorist,

00:04:51.640 with the additional military. Right, exactly. Or alternatively, full-scale war, right? That was the

00:04:56.760 lie that Obama kept telling. And they pitched that for eight years. It was either you are for our

00:05:00.820 appeasement or you are for war. And they kept saying that over and over. And they're still

00:05:03.900 selling. The media is still selling. And this is the point. Trump came in and he said, okay, well,

00:05:07.780 there's a third option that you guys are just pretending doesn't exist. And that option is

00:05:10.720 called deterrence. That is, if you violate X, Y, and Z, if you violate these rules, if you cross this

00:05:14.820 red line, you will get punched in the face. And you'll get punched so hard that you don't want to cross

00:05:18.340 those lines anymore. And so Trump was a, what he did to Soleimani was a living rebuke to the

00:05:25.200 entire framework that the media had been repeating for eight years and was pushed by the Democrats

00:05:29.000 for eight years. I want to jump in and just say one thing. You know, I'm not a giant fan of the

00:05:33.880 president. I think that this, in the end, bore out to be maybe the greatest foreign policy decision

00:05:39.160 by any president in my lifetime. Right. I didn't think that that was necessarily true just because

00:05:44.480 he killed Soleimani. I thought it'd be necessary to see what Iran reacted. Well, not only how Iran

00:05:49.920 reacted, but how the president handled the reaction of Iran. When he came to office, despite his

00:05:56.440 bellicosity, Donald Trump actually believed in the Obama doctrine. All of the early tests of

00:06:02.560 President Trump in terms of foreign policy, he backed down. He, as much as the Democrats,

00:06:08.640 was the one who would always give you this sort of false binary of, well, if we don't become

00:06:12.580 friends with everyone, we'll just be in open war. He would do this with North Korea very famously. 0.99

00:06:16.940 And if you would criticize him snuggling up with the North Koreans, that's what all of his 1.00

00:06:22.960 supporters would say. Oh, so you would rather us just be in nuclear war with North Korea? And 0.50

00:06:29.540 people like us, Ben, we'd be saying, no, there are other options. The president,

00:06:34.000 very tepid response to his first military crisis. He sent some cruise missiles into an airfield in

00:06:40.760 Syria. Absolutely did no good. Showed a kind of weakness and indecisiveness. 1.00

00:06:45.580 This is the one time you'll ever hear me say that Drew may have a point.

00:06:50.680 Because I was just about to say, I disagree with everything you're saying.

00:06:52.860 The president seems to have learned on the job. He's been weak on foreign policy. He's presented

00:07:00.120 all these false binaries about you only have kissing ass or open war. But there was this small 0.98

00:07:08.380 news story a few weeks ago that said the president had really become disenchanted with his generals

00:07:12.020 because of how Afghanistan has conducted itself. And that he started talking to special operators

00:07:17.060 and actual guys who operate on the ground. And then you see this really, I'm going to go ahead

00:07:22.280 and say it is a radical move to take out Soleimani. It's so radical. George W. Bush, who took us into

00:07:27.240 war in two separate theaters, didn't kill Soleimani as he should have.

00:07:30.960 When he had the chance. When he had the chance. Barack Obama, who loved to kill people with drone

00:07:36.980 strikes and did, in fact, take us into a country, Libya, that there was no declared war on.

00:07:42.300 Funny how everybody forgets that Libya actually happened.

00:07:44.120 There was an actual war in Libya. And they killed Qaddafi for no reason,

00:07:47.080 who was no threat to the United States. And then Hillary chortled about killing him. And then 0.99

00:07:51.500 Benghazi's embassy gets burned and it's not a big deal.

00:07:53.240 But then the president seems to have learned. And he made this very, very gutsy move. And even then,

00:07:59.240 because the president isn't always known for his consistency.

00:08:01.600 You don't know what he's going to do. I thought, if you escalate and then back down,

00:08:04.700 this will be worse than if you didn't kill him, even though I'll still be glad he's dead. 0.96

00:08:08.160 The president's handling of this missile attack, though, in Iraq last night 0.99

00:08:11.320 is flawless.

00:08:12.240 It was great.

00:08:13.060 It's flawless.

00:08:13.640 It's been flawless.

00:08:14.580 The thing I disagree with you guys about it is that I think you're putting him into this

00:08:20.660 framework that's created by Obama and Bush. And I don't think he's operating in that framework

00:08:24.520 for good sometimes and sometimes for ill. He is not a guy who will appease another country

00:08:29.740 to make friends or keep the peace. He's a guy who will make friends with anybody to keep the peace,

00:08:35.280 with any person to keep the peace. He'll say, Kim, Kim Jong-un, love the guy. He's a great guy.

00:08:39.800 Come on over. But if Kim Jong-un actually threatens Americans or kills them, he would blow them off the 0.66

00:08:44.140 face of the earth. And I think also that he does also understand, he does understand, as you're saying, 0.97

00:08:50.660 there are so many things we could do to Iran with basically the flick of a Xbox controller

00:08:56.100 that would cripple them forever. We could take out their ports. We could destroy their Navy.

00:09:00.120 Their airplanes are like paper, you know, like airplanes. So we send an airplane out to you,

00:09:04.820 you know, and he could take out their entire Air Force.

00:09:08.620 He can do to their Air Force what they just did.

00:09:10.860 My criticism of Trump, you know, and the thing is, they know it. They know it. And that's why not only

00:09:16.180 did they fire the missiles into the dirt, but they were making announcements like,

00:09:19.480 don't retaliate.

00:09:20.840 By the way, they know it now.

00:09:22.680 By the way, more than that, I mean, the Daily Mail basically reported that Iran called Iraq

00:09:27.600 and they said, get your guys out of that base because we need to do something to prove to

00:09:31.560 our people that we're not completely pansies.

00:09:34.080 Well, this was the question.

00:09:35.160 So they actually called up the Iraq, for people who missed the story, they actually called

00:09:37.760 up the Iraqi prime minister and they said, you need to move your troops out. The Iraqis 1.00

00:09:41.300 then went and told the Americans and the Americans moved their troops out, which is why no one's

00:09:44.280 dead today. So the Iranians were openly saying to the Americans, okay, we understand. 0.84

00:09:47.940 We can't go any further than this. Not only that, there was a story today out of Baghdad

00:09:51.200 that Muqtad al-Sadr, who's the leader of this huge Shiite group in Iran, has basically

00:09:56.380 told the PMF, which was the group that was behind the burning of the embassy, to shut

00:09:59.580 it down.

00:10:00.280 So the Iranians are understanding, like, we went too far here and they were pushing, 1.00

00:10:05.300 right? And here's my problem with Trump's foreign policy for a year there. It was not

00:10:09.140 pulling out from the Iran deal, which was great. It was that for a year, the Iranians kept 1.00

00:10:13.040 telling more and more and more bellicose, right? I mean, they were blowing up shipping

00:10:15.820 in the Straits of Hormuz. They had shot down an American drone. They blew up the Saudi 0.99

00:10:19.800 oil facility. They were firing rockets at American bases. All of this. And Trump really

00:10:23.820 did nothing. That's why when people kept saying, Trump desperately wants war with Iran, it's

00:10:27.080 like, what are you watching?

00:10:28.160 Trump wants war with Iran.

00:10:28.640 But they called him weak before when he didn't respond to the drone being blown up, which I

00:10:34.020 kind of agreed with him. I thought, like, I don't know if I want to go with him.

00:10:36.200 I certainly didn't agree with him. But I will agree that not since Ronald Reagan has there

00:10:40.740 been a president who disdained war more than...

00:10:43.780 Absolutely. Well, he should.

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00:13:18.920 So I just want to finish the narrative here, because I think it's important. So the Obama 0.53

00:13:21.860 narrative was it was either appeasement or it was full out war. And Trump comes along

00:13:25.320 and says, no, there's this thing called deterrence. Right.

00:13:26.980 If you cross this line, then I'm going to put a missile through Soleimani's head, which 0.98

00:13:30.480 is exactly what he did, which is great because Soleimani is better in a thousand pieces. 0.97

00:13:34.360 Hey, Ben, you know what? The last thing to go through Soleimani.

00:13:38.120 No, it actually improved Soleimani's personality.

00:13:40.360 It did.

00:13:40.980 It's much more likable now.

00:13:41.980 You know, I don't tap my own tweets all that often, but that was a great tweet. They

00:13:45.720 shipped him back in a box on a civilian airliner in the coach section. I said, well, he

00:13:49.540 didn't need the leg room.

00:13:50.160 Not even comfort plus.

00:13:53.040 But here's the point. That was the narrative from Obama. The media repeated it dutifully

00:13:57.700 for eight years.

00:13:58.420 That's right.

00:13:58.820 Trump came along and he wrecked the narrative for them because he showed that there was

00:14:01.820 this third way. So the media have now responded by refusing to acknowledge that deterrence

00:14:05.640 exists. Instead, their narrative has become that Trump is a madman and the ayatollahs are 0.99

00:14:10.580 rational. Right. It's not that they were deterred. It's that they realized that they didn't 1.00

00:14:14.600 really want to go to war and Trump is crazy. And so like, by the way, that in and of itself 0.97

00:14:18.820 does acknowledge that a deterrence took place. It's just that Trump's calculated nuttiness

00:14:22.860 made the Iranians back down, supposedly. But they will do anything up to and including 1.00

00:14:27.620 declaring the ayatollahs who hang gay people from cranes, who oppress women, who spread 0.98

00:14:32.060 terrorism all across the region. The regime that has been responsible for the deaths of 0.83

00:14:36.140 tens of thousands of people, mostly Muslims in the Middle East and people abroad, including

00:14:39.820 all the way in Buenos Aires when they're bombing synagogues. Right. They are willing to declare 1.00

00:14:43.080 those people rational actors just to avoid saying that Donald Trump backed them off their

00:14:47.540 call. Well, look at what's worse than that. They actually they actually hate Trump and

00:14:51.460 us so much that they they. Well, this is. Lawrence O'Toole was rooting for it last night.

00:14:55.900 And Michael, I want to get your opinion on this. If the Iranians had responded by bombing 0.78

00:15:00.800 Trump hotels around the world. Right. Right. Would the media have been able to condemn Iran

00:15:04.860 for it? Not a chance. Are you kidding me? They would have been celebrating. They were

00:15:07.980 all they were so excited to push Iranian propaganda while the Iranian retaliation was taking place

00:15:13.880 completely unvetted, baseless. They were just spouting what the mullahs were giving them. 0.91

00:15:17.800 Is that Lawrence O'Donnell tweet? Lawrence O'Donnell. I mean, MSNBC was. He said Trump

00:15:21.820 wagged the dog. Now the dog is wagging back. Uh-huh. Like openly. On air, they were saying

00:15:26.240 30 American casualties. Washington Post is reporting that. A raw story. A number of left wing

00:15:31.100 outlets were actually saying the Iranian news agency is calling in 80 casualties. None of it

00:15:35.900 happened. The only numbers you need to know are that more Americans were killed by Iran in

00:15:41.660 the two weeks before we took out Soleimani than in the entire retaliation. 13 ballistic missiles,

00:15:47.940 however many missiles. More were killed before than were killed afterward. It shows you that the

00:15:52.800 deterrence works. And the key that Trump reestablished beyond deterrence is unpredictability.

00:15:57.740 Because I agree with you. When he didn't respond to the drone, when he didn't respond to the Saudi 1.00

00:16:01.700 oil field, when he didn't respond to the tanker, at a certain point, you got to put up or shut up. At a

00:16:07.040 certain point, you don't believe the threats anymore. And that asymmetrical response,

00:16:10.860 taking out their top military commander. Clearly, it worked.

00:16:15.320 Is there a point with the media? I mean, the media, as you say, the media was the story.

00:16:19.220 I've never seen anything like that. It's disgusting. It was unreal. 0.85

00:16:21.760 Christian, I'm a poor journalist, was actually like almost singing at the funeral of this guy.

00:16:27.500 In tribute to him.

00:16:28.300 Oh, they had Martha Raddatz wearing the headgear. 0.65

00:16:31.140 Oh, my God. Is there a point where corporate calls in and says, boys, you know,

00:16:35.580 the American public, we do need them to watch our shows. Surely, surely there is a wide swath of

00:16:42.460 America that is looking at these programs and thinking, you have got to be kidding me. 0.75

00:16:45.360 No, I think, first of all, I think that the corporate higher-ups don't know a damn thing 0.67

00:16:49.000 about this region of the world at all. I mean, I'm constantly amazed by the coverage at the New

00:16:53.100 York Times. They don't know.

00:16:54.640 You know, Ben Rhodes was right.

00:16:55.680 They literally know nothing. I mean, they are full-on morons. 1.00

00:16:58.160 Absolutely. 1.00

00:16:58.600 And this first occurred to me, not with regard to this stuff, but with regard to Israel,

00:17:01.540 because Israel is in the middle of an election, and they were printing stuff that was so patently

00:17:04.360 absurd that I, who am a fairly well-educated follower of Israeli politics, I was looking

00:17:08.800 at this and going, are you, like, what? And their coverage of this whole situation, where

00:17:13.400 Soleimani was being portrayed as just, you know, the obituaries for this guy were glowing.

00:17:19.740 Yeah.

00:17:19.920 I mean, he was honest, and he was an austere religious scholar. It was part two.

00:17:24.220 I mean, they were contrasting, I guess, this former Cincinnati Bengals coach died in the

00:17:29.040 last couple of days, and there was a headline from the Washington Post saying, Sam Weish,

00:17:32.460 who made the, who did the grievous sin of not allowing a female reporter into the male 1.00

00:17:38.220 locker room, has died.

00:17:39.800 It's like, thank God Iran isn't run by Don Imus, you know.

00:17:43.720 It is truly incredible. And so, when Nikki Haley suggests that there are people who seem like

00:17:49.800 they are rooting for Iran, you know, there's a fine line between rooting for Iran and just

00:17:53.260 not knowing what the hell you're doing. But I think that the, there's one thing that's

00:17:56.720 certainly true. They're rooting against Trump. There is no question about that. And they cannot

00:18:00.600 allow Trump to have the victory, and so they will rob it from him with anything possible.

00:18:03.720 They will suggest that there's more, they'll root for more Iranian retaliation to come, 0.81

00:18:07.020 just to show that the terms didn't work.

00:18:08.880 Christian Annenpoor does know that area.

00:18:11.080 She does know that.

00:18:11.580 And she was questioning the, our deck, Seth Deck, she was questioning our Secretary of Defense,

00:18:19.000 like he was a perp. And then she had on a, a Rani official and was questioning her like, you know,

00:18:25.000 tell us the truth now, give us the real information. It was, it was incredibly shameful. And I don't know,

00:18:30.500 I mean, I've been calling for the media to, the news media to be reformed. Obviously it can't be

00:18:35.420 reformed because of the First Amendment, but it should be forced into reform. I'm so happy about

00:18:39.340 this Covington school kid, uh, taking out CNN and settling with them for defamation.

00:18:44.800 But they have got to do something. This is bad for the country. Trump, you know, Trump is right.

00:18:49.840 They're the enemy of the people. 0.81

00:18:51.060 I will say that the Ayatollahs acted in a way here that was more rational than the media would

00:18:55.920 have had them act. The way, the way that the media were covering this thing. I mean, Richard Engel,

00:19:00.240 who's covering this thing from Tehran for NBC, he was on the air talking about, they didn't just

00:19:04.300 turn Soleimani into a martyr, they turned him into a saint. And he's covering all the people

00:19:07.600 rubbing the relics on the coffin. It's like, yeah, they did the same thing with Stalin.

00:19:10.420 So the hell what?

00:19:11.940 This is my actual favorite tweet of the day from Michael Moore, who's a filmmaker.

00:19:16.760 And 2004 DNC presidential box city with Jimmy Carter.

00:19:20.120 That's right.

00:19:20.740 Just wondering, is there an American general for whom millions of us would turn out for

00:19:24.920 his funeral? Mad Dog, Kelly, Colin Powell. Can anyone even name the chair of the Joint Chiefs?

00:19:30.300 We all support those who serve, but would we pour into the streets like the Iranians? 1.00

00:19:34.220 Did you hear his podcast where he begged? Did you hear this? He begged, he had an emergency podcast

00:19:39.060 that was a message to the mullahs in Iran, begging them. He said, I have a way for you to win. This

00:19:44.520 is what he said. These were his words. I have a way for you to win. Don't sink to our level.

00:19:48.440 Don't become, follow your, be true to your book and to your God. And I thought if they're true to

00:19:53.160 their book and our God, we are in big, big trouble.

00:19:55.560 You know, he slid into the Ayatollah's DMs. He privately messaged Ayatollah Khamenei on Twitter

00:20:02.240 saying, please don't do this. We'll get rid of Trump. Please don't attack us.

00:20:06.360 So I want to know, you guys, I want your opinion though. When the American people see this,

00:20:11.320 aside from the far left, aside from this, aren't they going to say like, what?

00:20:15.520 Yes. The takeaway is going to be, I think, that in the past three months, Donald Trump took out the

00:20:21.360 top two terrorists on planet Earth. Plus the Hezbollah guys in Iraq. People were killed

00:20:25.780 alongside Soleimani. I mean, so I think that it's going to be very difficult. Like what,

00:20:29.340 what exactly is the democratic platform here going to be? They're desperate for it. Now

00:20:32.000 they're, now they're relegated to arguing that it was an illegal kill on Soleimani because Soleimani

00:20:36.160 wasn't an imminent threat, right? They're all, they're all, he's only responsible for the deaths of

00:20:40.760 hundreds of American soldiers in Iran and in Iraq and the, and the murder of tens of thousands of

00:20:45.440 people in Syria and the murder of people in Yemen and the murder of people in Lebanon and the

00:20:48.640 murder of people in Israel. He's only responsible for those things, but he wasn't like,

00:20:51.360 doing anything that day. Except for that, he was actually in Iraq, except that he was in Iraq

00:20:55.900 to actually sit with the people who had just burned the embassy the day before. But other than that,

00:20:59.440 guys, he was totally not a threat. He was basically a Swedish school child.

00:21:03.080 That's going to be the DNC slogan is going to be win one for Qasim. 0.82

00:21:07.800 Win one for the Gipper. They've got win one for Qasim. 1.00

00:21:10.200 One thing that always occurs to me in times like this, and it goes to your point about how the media

00:21:13.280 doesn't really know anything. I actually, I agree that Trump actually comes off looking great in this

00:21:18.980 entire affair. As I said, I think it's the greatest or one of the greatest foreign policy

00:21:22.820 achievements of my lifetime. Nevertheless, people don't have a great framework for understanding

00:21:29.380 these sorts of events. When you hear very serious seeming people go on television and tell you that

00:21:35.100 we were on the brink of World War III, when they tell you things like this, this would be,

00:21:41.060 I know someone personally who went and stockpiled food at a grocery store last night. That is

00:21:45.500 the honest to goodness truth. Iran does not have a weapon capable of striking America,

00:21:51.340 except perhaps for actual terrorist suicide bombers or something. There were people who

00:21:55.760 believed World War III was upon us. People thought the draft was about to be reinstituted.

00:21:59.160 They thought the draft was about to be reinstituted. Iran would last, we know almost to the day, 0.98

00:22:05.280 exactly three weeks is how long it would take our military to completely destroy the military of

00:22:09.520 Iran. And we also conflate the Iraq war with the Iraq nation building and occupation.

00:22:14.300 People like the Iraq war was a huge failure. Three weeks, we unseated the fourth or fifth 1.00

00:22:18.740 largest military on the face of the planet with, with sub 100 casualties. Now, if you want to say

00:22:25.140 that the Iraq nation building and democracy establishing enterprise didn't go very well.

00:22:29.540 It was the Colin Powell Doctrine. That's right. The Powell Doctrine is wrong.

00:22:32.560 I do, I do think that the, the Iranian military is capable of generating more casualties for the 1.00

00:22:38.480 United States than the Iraqis did. They do have a, we don't have to say, we're not going to, 1.00

00:22:41.440 it's not going to be D-Day. We're not going to have guys in the Persian Gulf paddling their boats.

00:22:45.120 No, no, no, of course not. But we do have about 5,000 troops in the region and they have tens of

00:22:48.580 thousands of militia members. So it turned into, there'd be some bloody battles. But

00:22:51.560 and bottom line is that all of that was speculative because no one wanted to go to war. And I kept

00:22:56.140 saying this over and over, Donald Trump did not want to go to war. The Iranians didn't want to go 1.00

00:23:00.280 even more to war, even more than Trump because they knew. And what Tuleman really said was, yes,

00:23:05.560 there is a red line. And unlike with Barack Obama, I'm not going to back off it and then just hand

00:23:09.060 Vladimir Putin the keys to the kingdom, right? All the, all these same jackasses who say that 0.97

00:23:13.280 Trump is a tool of Vladimir Putin. Barack Obama handed Syria to Vladimir Putin after letting 0.99

00:23:17.460 Bashar Assad gas people. Okay. So why don't you just shut up? But even when you say that Iran could 0.98

00:23:21.740 generate some bloody casualties for America in theater, I don't fully agree with you, but even

00:23:26.160 let's grant that that's true. We had a million troops in the Middle East eight years ago. This would

00:23:34.120 have been nothing like that, even if it had turned into a shooting war. Oh no, we have 5,000,

00:23:37.940 we have 5,000 troops in the region right now. Much less World War III, a conflict that you would

00:23:42.460 assume would involve numerous world powers and actual millions of casualties, but very serious

00:23:48.520 people. The same people who say, we have to believe the science. We will all be dead in 12 years.

00:23:54.360 Right. And people go, well, that sounds unreasonable, but this is a very serious person saying it.

00:24:00.540 But not only does Trump learn things, people learn things. And when you go out and you say,

00:24:04.940 oh, the draft is coming and we're protesting the war and the draft doesn't come and the war doesn't

00:24:09.220 come. And in fact, Iran essentially has backed down. I think large swaths of people say, well,

00:24:16.880 wait a minute. I mean, it's like, listen, I was a liberal. I was a liberal. People who are Democrats

00:24:20.380 who were saying like, is it really going to go like this? Like, I have a feeling it's not going to go

00:24:23.900 like this. You know, I was a liberal when Ronald Reagan was president and I thought, what an idiot, 1.00

00:24:27.680 what a warmonger. And then one day I thought, you know, everything he's doing works, you know, 1.00

00:24:31.900 and then the wall fell down. And the wall fell down. I thought, you know, he was actually right

00:24:36.720 and everybody else was wrong. You start to think about these things. I think, you know, Trump,

00:24:40.780 a lot of people are going to start having, Molly Hemingway just put out a tweet saying she overheard

00:24:44.660 someone say, you know, this guy is kind of good at presidenting. And I think that that's what a lot

00:24:50.640 of people are thinking. It's what I've been thinking for the past several months.

00:24:52.760 You know, I was talking to a friend of mine who's big in foreign policy and he said,

00:24:56.600 the thing people get wrong about foreign policy is it's actually much simpler than all the academics

00:25:01.740 and all the experts think. You know, since we're all celebrating Trump here today, Trump had this

00:25:06.660 pretty much stupid advertisement in the New York Times in the 1980s. It was attacking Reagan, 0.99

00:25:13.740 but it was to sort of launch his political career. And he was accusing Reagan of being too weak.

00:25:18.500 And what the advertisement said was there's nothing about our American defense policy that

00:25:23.200 couldn't be fixed with a little backbone. Very simple, right? Now, the reason I say it's stupid

00:25:27.640 is I think Ronald Reagan was pretty strong, got the Soviet Union to collapse. But the statement that 0.99

00:25:32.700 he made, completely right. It's exactly what we saw here. This was not a fundamental reordering

00:25:37.860 of U.S. foreign affairs. He just had some backbone and it worked.

00:25:42.300 If you would like to talk to us after the show and maybe ask us some very direct questions,

00:25:46.300 you can come over to our new live chat feature at dailywire.com. How do you do it, Jeremy? Well,

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00:25:58.420 off, but only if you head over there right now and subscribe during the duration of this show.

00:26:03.900 We're going to be around for a little bit longer. And in fact, we're going to take some questions

00:26:06.800 right now from existing dailywire.com subscribers and members by kicking it over to Alicia. Alicia,

00:26:13.780 what are people back home wanting to know? Well, back home, everybody's kind of on the same

00:26:17.240 topic that you guys have been discussing for the first 20 minutes of the show tonight. How will

00:26:20.860 the president's handling of Iran affect our relations and just everything, I think, with China, Russia,

00:26:25.500 and North Korea? Well, it's certainly going to throw a scare into all three of them insofar as it

00:26:31.640 shows that there are red lines. Again, with Barack Obama, there were no red lines. So North Korea is 0.80

00:26:36.860 always playing the same game. The big difference, of course, is that they have nuclear weapons and they do

00:26:40.120 have an insane amount of ordnance that is aimed directly in the center of Seoul. So that is a

00:26:45.440 bigger problem. They're not going away anytime soon. By the way, the mullahs aren't going away 1.00

00:26:49.120 anytime soon. But the idea that the North Koreans are going to get wildly aggressive is obviously 0.79

00:26:53.660 untrue because at a certain point they will cross a red line. The Chinese are playing a long game, 0.99

00:26:57.320 so the idea of them getting openly aggressive was never a real possibility. The Russians are—I think 0.91

00:27:03.100 that they have pretty much finished with their territorial incursions under President Trump. I think

00:27:07.080 that they feel like they've gotten away with about as much as they can. It's been basically quiet since

00:27:10.960 the invasion of Crimea, which is several years ago at this point. I don't think they're going to get

00:27:14.840 territorially aggressive. Again, I think that Trump really sent a message to the world here,

00:27:20.320 and the Iranians backing down really is a major foreign policy win for him. And I think that the 0.93

00:27:26.400 real message in all of this is that Barack Obama was wrong about everything, as per our usual

00:27:29.800 arrangement. Seriously. And the media cannot let go of it. Yeah. And the rest of the world basically

00:27:33.840 understands that now. And the other thing about Obama was, unlike Jimmy Carter, the second worst

00:27:37.980 president of my lifetime, he never learned. He never changed his mind. It didn't matter what

00:27:42.680 happened. He was so certain of himself. I mean, Jimmy Carter, when Russia went into Afghanistan,

00:27:47.060 thought, okay, maybe I was wrong about that. You know, maybe I was wrong about the Soviet Union.

00:27:51.560 Obama, you know, the comedian who said he was like obsidian? He was, except up here.

00:27:57.420 You know, even the fact that British Prime Minister Boris Johnson came out and basically endorsed the

00:28:02.640 president's actions over the last few hours. Three days ago, two days ago, Britain was openly

00:28:09.600 basically rebuking the killing of Soleimani. So I say that only to say, I think everyone learned a

00:28:15.160 lesson. I think in capitals all across Europe and in capitals all across the world, people are looking

00:28:19.900 at America with a little bit more serious of an eye. And that's something that's been missing for the

00:28:24.560 last decade, at least, and is a very, very powerful thing for us. And it does show the disconnect

00:28:28.960 between the supposed importance of rhetoric and the importance of action, especially on stuff like

00:28:33.340 this, because this was, people kept saying, oh, he's tweeting all these nasty things to Iran.

00:28:36.640 Right. But the concept is extraordinarily basic. It's the same concept that you use with your child

00:28:40.620 or that kids use with each other, which is if you do this, I'm going to punch you. Right. 0.99

00:28:44.120 Right. Trump, that's Trump's message, right? It's right in his wheelhouse.

00:28:47.520 And you know, the other thing about the Powell Doctrine is it essentially, the Powell Doctrine was that

00:28:51.800 if you break it, you own it, right? And that essentially neutralizes our strength, because no matter

00:28:55.740 how big you are on the ground, an indigenous guerrilla force can keep you fighting forever. 1.00

00:29:01.740 I mean, that was George Washington. Yeah. Coleman Powell had not learned the first lesson

00:29:05.480 of American warfare. Exactly. But the Washington Doctrine. The Washington Doctrine. Exactly. And

00:29:10.400 when you sit, when you sit, got a 17 year old sitting home with an Xbox controller taking out

00:29:14.620 your main guy, that's power. And that's the kind of power we have now. And it should be used

00:29:19.160 when we have to. You know, the return on the investment is also so great. I mean, I don't know how much

00:29:23.900 that drone shot cost that took out Soleimani, but the return on the deterrence is so great

00:29:29.080 because it's a return in North Korea, as you say, in China. It's a return among our allies.

00:29:33.920 You know, you only have to show the credible use of violence every so often. That establishes

00:29:40.700 it. You only have to be unpredictable every so often. It's like Reagan and Thatcher at the

00:29:44.540 Falklands. That's right. Right. I mean, it doesn't take a major military action to convince

00:29:48.700 everybody that you are willing to do what you say you're going to do. I also think that this

00:29:52.300 has weighed heavily on President Trump. I don't think that, again, since Ronald Reagan, we haven't

00:29:56.840 had a president who disliked war more than Donald Trump. It's fun when Hollywood starlets call him

00:30:02.620 a terrorist. We've got a terrorist in the White House. You've got a guy here who, so far anyway, 0.85

00:30:07.800 is the only president since 88 not to start an actual shooting war. But if you watch that,

00:30:13.720 if you watch that press conference that the president had this, not press conference,

00:30:16.620 but that address that the president gave this morning, looked terrible. He sounded terrible.

00:30:21.300 He sounded like he was sick. He looked like he had slept in several days. He was slurring

00:30:24.920 a few words. I mean, if you were a Hollywood script writer, you couldn't have done better

00:30:29.480 than he said, I want to be clear. The territorial interest of the United States. Like, no, you

00:30:37.120 can't slur the word after I want to be clear. But I don't say any of that to make fun of the

00:30:41.700 president, maybe just a tiny bit in good humor. But I think it's taken a toll on the guy.

00:30:46.300 The guy does not like the idea of military conflict. He doesn't want to kill people.

00:30:51.960 Barack Obama was down in the Situation Room bombing people from the air almost every day

00:30:55.920 of his presidency. Donald Trump has been clear about this basically his entire life. He does

00:31:01.360 not like war. He doesn't want to deploy. He called off a drone strike.

00:31:03.820 You shouldn't like war, right? I mean, we don't like war.

00:31:06.340 What is it good for?

00:31:08.520 It's bad for children and other flowers and whatever.

00:31:11.120 Oh, man. Rush Hour reference there? All right. I don't know if you guys saw this video earlier,

00:31:17.320 but it was Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar kind of giggling during a conversation that Democrats had,

00:31:22.380 a press conference actually, that Democrats had regarding the Iraq war. And this question

00:31:27.120 comes from a subscriber who wants to know, with antics like this and their sympathies to Iran,

00:31:31.240 do you guys think that the squad will survive the 2020 elections?

00:31:35.040 If the squad didn't exist, we'd have to make them in a laboratory. I hope so. They want to

00:31:39.980 redistrict AOC out of her seat in New York because the New York Democrats like her even

00:31:44.680 less than the Republicans do. I'm going to fight to keep her seat. I really want them to stay in

00:31:49.440 power. You know what was amazing today? Ilhan Omar, she was giggling with Tlaib at that press

00:31:53.500 conference. It just seemed like they were acting like children. I don't think it was a direct

00:31:57.320 reaction to what was being discussed. What was so amazing is she said that the sanctions that Trump

00:32:03.060 is reinstituting on Iran. She said sanctions are warfare. Sanctions cause death and destruction,

00:32:09.960 and that's terrible. One year ago, she said, Ilhan Omar supports the boycott, divest, and sanction

00:32:17.300 Israel movement. So we can't declare war on the Jews.

00:32:20.760 J-O-O-O-O. You know, you can, we can declare war on Israel, but no war on Iran. She said that 0.82

00:32:28.380 almost- It's on the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

00:32:29.880 Directly. Thank you, Nancy Pelosi.

00:32:30.920 Yeah. She retweeted George Carlin saying America's in the business of bombing brown and

00:32:35.600 black people. That's her retweet on this. You know, I do think, listen, people are moving out 0.98

00:32:41.060 of red states and moving to blue states. And I know we all fear that when they do that,

00:32:44.160 they'll go to the red state and start voting blue and turn the state over.

00:32:47.220 You said moving from blue states to red states.

00:32:49.340 Sorry. And they're doing it en masse. I mean, blue states are losing congressional seats because

00:32:54.360 of the population transfer. You know, people catch on to things. People are not stupid. I,

00:33:00.100 you know, that they do see what's going on. They do see through the press. The press is not as

00:33:04.780 powerful as it used to be. Young people aren't reading the press at all. You know, they're reading 0.92

00:33:09.160 Reddit.

00:33:09.980 You heard it from Andrew Klavan, folks at home. People are not stupid. Alicia, 0.99

00:33:13.660 you don't agree with anything, Isaac.

00:33:16.040 All right. Jumping into election 2020, because we're officially in 2020, guys. Aren't you so

00:33:20.880 excited? I mean, I don't do Barbara Walters impersonation, but just imagine me talking about

00:33:25.440 2020. So the question for all of you guys is which Democratic primary candidate do you think

00:33:30.280 benefits the most from these increased tensions with Iran?

00:33:33.760 Donald J. Trump.

00:33:36.400 I don't think he's a registered Democrat.

00:33:38.300 Oh, he was at one time, though. He was at one time.

00:33:40.920 I mean, the answer is Biden, because anytime people feel a little bit unsettled, they want the

00:33:43.940 person whose face they've seen before and who isn't a bat bleep loony communist. I mean, 0.97

00:33:48.100 like Bernie Sanders being out there and being like, I've been against every war since the

00:33:51.260 creation of war. And I was there when Cain killed Abel. And it's like, OK, you know, I'm sorry,

00:33:56.100 but you were like, there are only two people there, Bernie, and only one of them lived.

00:33:59.460 I don't think that's it.

00:34:01.580 He was hiding in the bushes.

00:34:02.700 But like Bernie, the fact that Bernie and Biden are the top two candidates means that

00:34:07.740 Biden's the nominee. I just I do not see a situation in which those two are the final

00:34:12.520 two. And Sanders walks away with the nomination.

00:34:14.660 Jason Reilly was saying today he thought that Bernie was in with a chance. I kind of agree

00:34:17.780 with you on this.

00:34:18.500 I mean, I think he's got a chance in the sense that he could win the caucuses because caucuses

00:34:22.160 are caucus states.

00:34:22.980 Yeah. And he's expected to win New Hampshire last time.

00:34:25.060 He won New Hampshire last time, but he won it 49 percent last time. Right now he's pulling

00:34:28.100 at like twenty five, twenty seven percent. If Biden finishes a close second in both those

00:34:31.700 states, it's over. If I agree with that in both those states, if he is in like the 13

00:34:37.120 percent rate. Do you think Bloomberg has a chance?

00:34:39.180 So Bloomberg's only opportunity is basically that that Biden loses in Iowa and loses heavily

00:34:44.880 enough that New Hampshire becomes crucial to him. He blows all of his money.

00:34:48.420 Sanders then wins New Hampshire anyway. So Biden has lost all of his money.

00:34:51.980 Sanders wins Nevada. And at that point, Biden is basically out of the race because he's blown

00:34:55.500 all of his money. And the only person who's left in the race is a moderate with

00:34:58.020 money is Bloomberg. And that's it. That's that's the bet that he's making.

00:35:00.700 And it's a narrow bet. It's not impossible, but it's it's also not really the idea that

00:35:05.180 the that the 2020 Democrat Party is going to elect one of the 10 richest people in the

00:35:10.020 world to be president of the United States, an old, rich, white New York billionaire.

00:35:14.660 Jew. Well, the only thing to say, though, with never, never say never. 0.66

00:35:20.280 Bloomberg, I thought he'd enter the race at zero point two percent.

00:35:23.600 The people who actually ascribe to his views account for like four percent of the electorate.

00:35:28.020 He came in with six percent. He's now nationally tied with Liz Warren, who was the front runner.

00:35:32.900 One national poll has him at 11 percent. That's much better than I thought.

00:35:36.340 The invisible prop on this set is not going to be relevant.

00:35:38.300 His other his other big problem is that he actually supports school choice and charter

00:35:44.680 schools, which and most. And he likes Israel.

00:35:46.820 Yeah. Oh, you mean his big problem is that he's a Republican?

00:35:49.380 Yeah. A rational human being.

00:35:51.480 Yeah. We just elected a Democrat.

00:35:53.100 I don't know. Dogs and cats living together.

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00:38:53.060 Magnificent, right? Like, that was just wonderful. We're all going to be saved by comedians because

00:38:56.980 they can't stand being told what not to say. That's right. But the best part about the Ricky

00:39:01.320 Gervais routine was not Ricky Gervais. It was all the cutaways. Yes. The cutaways were by far the

00:39:05.020 best thing where you would have the cutaways. Tim Cook was the classic. Oh my God. I actually

00:39:08.600 couldn't believe that one. That one was spectacular. But there were some from, like that woman from

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00:39:22.640 and they were so upset that anybody would dare prick this balloon of self-esteem that they had.

00:39:27.820 And the important thing was not just him telling them that they didn't know anything about

00:39:31.000 politics. It was him calling them out for the massive, massive hypocrisy. Tim Cook made one 0.97

00:39:36.120 of the stupidest speeches I have ever heard when he said, you know, we're going to take hate off our 1.00

00:39:40.600 sites because it's the right thing to do and our conscience is sacred. I thought, you're a 1.00

00:39:44.840 billionaire CEO. Shut up. You know, just make your phones and let us do the talking because we're the 1.00

00:39:49.700 people. You know, at what point does a billionaire CEO decide that he is the guy in charge of what we

00:39:55.580 can say? I mean, I'll at least say for the billionaire CEO, at least he's providing a product or

00:39:58.460 service that millions of people are gaining access to. So do it. Do it. No, like that. All of that's

00:40:03.120 good. But like Michelle Williams makes art house films that no one's ever seen. I didn't know who

00:40:08.060 she was before she gave that speech. Before she killed the Hare Krishna member, took his garb, 0.95

00:40:12.240 put it on, grabbed a plastic bag, put it on her shoulder and then went up there and started talking 0.99

00:40:15.480 about killing babies. This is the thing about them. They're all incredibly talented at what they do 0.99

00:40:18.560 and they should just do it. But her speech was, yes, I had to kill a child in order to get fame and

00:40:23.980 fortune. That's the oldest story. Come on. Yeah, right. I mean, you get a little golden 0.90

00:40:27.580 statue. If I could get something that I could maybe just really worship. You can't put a child

00:40:32.080 on your shelf. That's very true. They fall off. Nothing says female power. Like I had to kill 1.00

00:40:37.300 this baby to become an actress. Alyssa Milano said the same thing like three months ago. And you read 0.99

00:40:42.100 about it and you think, I've read that story. What was going on with the set of Charmed?

00:40:45.200 It was in Rose McGowan, who's literally like stumping for the Iranians and saying she wanted to move

00:40:49.980 over there. And Alyssa Milano, who's also a kook. Like what was going on over there? It's the same thing

00:40:54.560 that goes on on every set. Hollywood actually steers into, if you've ever been here and seen

00:40:58.960 any of the architecture, Hollywood steers into this sort of Babylonian pagan ancestry that they

00:41:05.460 see as sort of being, this was, to quote Don Henley, Gamora by the sea. But I think to quote our

00:41:11.680 friend Andrew Breitbart, this was Babylon. He wrote a book very famously called Babylon Sheik. Hollywood

00:41:18.260 interrupted Babylon Sheik, right? I just finished Ronan Farrow's book. And I have to tell you,

00:41:23.080 I was listening to it. I'm going on these hikes and I'd go up, I'd go up and then I'd meet my wife

00:41:27.900 at the top because she's slower than I am. And then we walked down together. By the time I'd walk

00:41:31.160 down, I was like frothing at the mouth with the rage, the hypocrisy. Ronan Farrow, who, you know,

00:41:37.140 he was heroic in this instance. He was heroic in this instance. But he kept bringing this stuff and

00:41:41.460 they kept saying, they wouldn't even say, we're not going to do this because we got pressure from

00:41:45.980 Harvey Weinstein. They wouldn't even say that. All they would say is, let's put on pause. Let's put it on

00:41:50.260 the back burner. And it turned out the reason they were doing it is because they were protecting Matt

00:41:53.800 Lauer, who was doing exactly the same thing right under their nose. And everybody knew it.

00:41:57.720 The corruption is incredible in these industries. And to have Gervais stand up and say,

00:42:02.960 not that you shouldn't talk about it because you don't know about it, but you shouldn't talk about

00:42:05.940 it because you're the worst people in the country. You work for the worst people in the country.

00:42:10.340 And the guy out in the Midwest in his checked shirt who's voting for Donald Trump hasn't done those

00:42:15.980 things. You know, he hasn't organized the incredible mass abuse of young women.

00:42:21.400 But this is actually where I was going with the Babylon thing, that they don't hear what

00:42:24.940 they're actually saying. If I had to say, I had to kill my little sister to build the Daily Wire,

00:42:31.140 everyone would go, well, that's, maybe it wasn't worth it. That's not a good thing. 0.98

00:42:38.480 But they have this Babylonian pagan mentality. And it's actually a real insight into the truth 0.99

00:42:42.880 about abortion. Abortion is just paganism. It's just the belief that if you kill your

00:42:48.400 children, the sky god will send rain and you'll get more crops. It's a genuine belief that if we 0.89

00:42:54.240 sacrifice our babies, we will be more materially successful. And so it's no...

00:42:58.620 This explains why they hate the Jews. This is what the Jews put an end to, right? 1.00

00:43:01.620 Yes. The Jews brought us monotheism. Monotheism defeated Babylonian paganism. 0.93

00:43:05.880 And it stopped sacrificing your children to the ball.

00:43:08.100 You know, there was one... I actually have to give credit to an actor at the Golden Globes.

00:43:12.080 other than Ricky Gervais. And that is Joaquin Phoenix.

00:43:14.800 Yeah, I agree.

00:43:15.520 Joaquin Phoenix goes up there and he is a lefty, right? His whole speech was about environmentalism,

00:43:20.400 how we have to save the planet. But in his speech, he said, look, guys, it's really good,

00:43:24.640 you know, to have all these kind of gimmicky dinners and stuff. Maybe don't fly private

00:43:29.080 everywhere. Maybe fly commercial like once every so often. Just maybe you should do something

00:43:34.820 in your own life rather than just prattle on and tell everyone else what to do.

00:43:38.700 Although I will say that I have a hypocrisy Joaquin Phoenix story. So very, very recently

00:43:43.940 I was visiting a restaurant. I won't mention which restaurant. And it was... The restaurant

00:43:47.740 was about to open and Joaquin Phoenix walks in and he's at the counter. And this is a restaurant

00:43:51.600 that basically sells only meat. Like it only sells meat. And he walked in and he walked

00:43:55.500 out with a box and he... Or I think he had to leave because he couldn't wait for the box

00:43:58.620 or something. And he was wearing a vegan shirt.

00:44:02.560 Is that... Is it hypocrisy or is the guy just... Is he actually hip enough to know that that's

00:44:07.880 funny?

00:44:08.460 Maybe.

00:44:10.220 I mean, he's the joker. He just wants to burn. 0.85

00:44:12.860 He just wants the world to burn.

00:44:15.160 Honestly, I thought that the best joke was not even that one. I thought that the best joke

00:44:17.880 that Gervais told was the thing about how he was going to do an in memoriam, but there

00:44:20.980 were too many white people and not on his watch. Because you know that that's what's going 0.67

00:44:24.480 to happen at this year's Oscars, right? I just had Brett Easton-Ellis on my show today

00:44:29.260 and we were talking about the Golden Globes. And he was saying that when it comes to the

00:44:32.360 BAFTA Awards, for example, all 20 nominees in all the categories are white, which means

00:44:36.220 we're going to get another Oscars so white routine this year. How about there were just 0.89

00:44:39.680 a lot of really good movies that got made and they happen to have white people in them?

00:44:42.760 No, no. That's not allowed.

00:44:44.720 And the line about the foreign press, the Hollywood foreign press being racist, that's true. 1.00

00:44:48.640 I mean, that is just stone true.

00:44:50.080 Well, the only place where you're not allowed to be a racist is America.

00:44:52.540 I know.

00:44:52.800 I mean, that's actually one of the funny truths. Like, you've talked about it before, Drew.

00:44:58.260 You can be black and of course you're just an American. If you were born in America, you 0.99

00:45:02.960 grew up in America. But not so much in Germany or not so much in...

00:45:06.460 No, I don't know. The Rose McGowan said that Iran is pretty progressive on these issues.

00:45:11.000 I feel for poor Rose McGowan. Harvey Weinstein actually did a number on her. She's an actress. 0.96

00:45:16.080 She went nuts. 0.91

00:45:17.000 Well, yeah. And she was fairly heroic in that situation as well.

00:45:20.740 Yes, absolutely.

00:45:20.840 But also still crazy.

00:45:22.040 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:25.500 Funnily enough, you don't get to abuse women just because they're crazy. If you did, we'd 0.99

00:45:28.600 all be having a big party.

00:45:31.600 And with that, we probably ought to check back in with Alicia. 0.99

00:45:34.480 Speaking of crazy women. 1.00

00:45:36.620 We're going to have Alicia try to save us from ourselves. 0.97

00:45:39.500 We're going to have Alicia try to save us from ourselves.

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00:49:18.540 Elisha. You're never supposed to telecast when you make a mistake. You're just supposed to

00:49:24.720 seamlessly act as though I had never offered to pitch it to Elisha. And now we just go into another

00:49:28.920 news story. But they keep trying to tell... They're in my ear saying, don't go to Elisha. Don't go to

00:49:32.920 Elisha. They're putting on the teleprompter, Elisha isn't ready. Elisha isn't ready. And I'm so

00:49:37.580 desperate to know where the hell Elisha is. Where did she go? I just can't help but say, I don't know, folks.

00:49:44.060 She'll get to your questions here just in a little bit. She walked out after that crazy joke. 1.00

00:49:47.560 The crazy joke. That's what it was. I actually, with that crazy joke, I was about to put out a

00:49:52.200 disclaimer to Media Matters. They're all still at Suleimani's funeral. So I actually don't...

00:49:56.300 We're not even watching. It's fine. We were talking before the show and it's actually something that

00:50:01.340 I think when we talk about it live on the air, it's always one of the more engaging things that we

00:50:05.900 have. But because the news is usually so overwhelming, we don't get a chance. There were a lot of great

00:50:10.320 movies made this year.

00:50:27.120 movie after another about real people with real problems, you know, came out and they

00:50:31.100 were... It was great. Great stuff.

00:50:32.900 I finally had a chance to watch a bunch of them at the end of the year. So what was your

00:50:35.860 favorite movie of the year?

00:50:36.920 I think... Boy, that's a tough one. I loved... I really enjoyed Knives Out, which I didn't

00:50:41.500 think was a great film, but I just thought it was incredibly entertaining. And as a mystery

00:50:46.480 writer, I usually sit there and pick these things apart, but I was sitting there going,

00:50:50.160 no, this is good. This is a good mystery story.

00:50:52.160 It's incredibly well plotted, actually. And it's a very complex plot and he makes it accessible,

00:50:56.620 the director. And as I was saying before the show, it's the first film that I've seen in

00:51:00.400 a long time where I actually felt like the filmmaker's only motive was to entertain.

00:51:06.860 Which is... I'm so grateful for that.

00:51:08.500 Absolutely. I think my favorite film this year was the Tarantino film, and I'm not a

00:51:13.020 Tarantino fan, but I thought Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was the first film with really

00:51:18.160 great values. It was just imbued. I mean, that's not what makes a film great, except that it

00:51:23.060 did move the movie. That they had these characters that you really liked who rose above what they

00:51:28.080 were and who rose above the Hollywood culture. And it had... The last 15 minutes, I laughed

00:51:33.100 without stopping. I mean, I just laughed with... I sat there and laughed with me.

00:51:35.860 It's really the only place in the movie where there's brutal violence, because normally

00:51:38.240 with the Tarantino film, you expect brutal violence the entire way. But it's really

00:51:41.200 violence-free up until the last 15 minutes. And then it is brutal violence. And my wife, 0.98

00:51:44.260 who despises brutal violence, she was watching it and she was cringing, but she was also laughing

00:51:49.040 hysterically. It was really funny.

00:51:50.340 The final punchline of the movie is so unbelievably funny. And it's well set up. You know, what's so

00:51:56.400 great about that movie... That was actually my favorite movie of the year, too. And I don't think it's a

00:52:00.300 great movie. I don't think... But I thought it was very, very good. It's about the exact moment when

00:52:06.300 Hollywood completely went crazy. It was right there. And so you saw what was being lost and you saw what

00:52:12.580 was coming in.

00:52:13.220 And that's sort of the theme, right? So for those who don't know sort of the setup of the film,

00:52:16.620 basically, Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski live next door to Leonardo DiCaprio, who's a failing

00:52:20.300 1950s, 60s Western star who's...

00:52:23.300 He's Clint Eastwood before he turns there, yeah.

00:52:25.160 Right? Because he ends up doing some spaghetti Westerns and all of this. And he's actually a very

00:52:28.980 good actor. He's supposed to be a very good actor, very talented guy, but he's being left behind

00:52:32.220 by the Art Nouveau crowd. And his stunt double, who is Brad Pitt, is this old World War II veteran

00:52:38.940 who's incredibly competent in everything he does? He's just incredibly competent, but doesn't

00:52:43.040 actually have a life. He just kind of sits around, is chauffeur for Leonardo DiCaprio.

00:52:47.360 And it's about how these two guys, one of whom portrays the manly man version on TV, but isn't

00:52:52.260 actually all that manly, and the one who actually is the manly man who makes sure that the fake

00:52:57.160 manly man can keep safe. It's about how these two guys are being left behind by Hollywood. And if only

00:53:02.180 Hollywood, because it's an alternative history, like all of Tarantino's movies have now become,

00:53:05.260 the entire thing is basically, if 1970s Hollywood had not thrown away the masculinity that was

00:53:11.060 inherent in 1950s and 60s Hollywood, it would have saved Hollywood as opposed to destroying it.

00:53:15.020 It had a scene at the ranch. It involves the Manson family. It has a scene out at the Manson

00:53:20.360 Ranch, which may have been the most suspenseful scene I've seen in a movie in 10 years. It was

00:53:24.960 literally Hitchcockian. It was quiet. It was understated. It reminded me of the last scene of

00:53:30.200 Notorious, which is just a guy walking down a flight of stairs, and you just sit there on the edge of

00:53:34.440 Well, Tarantino does have a gift for that, right? There's that Christoph Waltz scene in

00:53:36.840 Inglourious Basterds. Yes, in the opening scene. But this was quieter. I mean, that was a setup.

00:53:42.440 This was just like, you understood, first of all, the incredible decency of the Brad Pitt

00:53:47.340 character, what he was doing, and you understood he was surrounded by evil. And it was just a man

00:53:51.780 doing the right thing in the midst of evil, and you sat there.

00:53:55.200 Man, if you don't like hippies, this is the movie for you. 1.00

00:53:56.880 It was interesting. He just won the award last night. I forget what it was, Producers Guild

00:54:01.720 or something, or Directors Guild, who knows. He wins the award, and he goes up and he dedicates

00:54:08.000 the movie to John Milius, who is one of the great directors in Hollywood history, and one

00:54:14.120 of the only conservatives in town. And for me, it sort of confirmed what I thought, which

00:54:19.040 is that this really is a lowercase c conservative movie. It's about conserving something that was

00:54:24.380 lost. The other conservative movie of this year that they didn't realize was conservative,

00:54:28.200 because they never realized they're making a conservative film, it's just a conservative

00:54:30.520 film, was Ford vs. Ferrari, which is just a great American film about cars and men, and

00:54:36.980 men doing manly things that are responsible, and building cool stuff, and doing so in order

00:54:41.720 to promote America as opposed to foreigners. And it's such a uniquely conservative film. 0.66

00:54:47.880 And it's so funny, because Hollywood thinks of it as, well, this is them speaking up against

00:54:51.320 the nastiness of capitalism, because the sort of quasi-villain of the film is Henry Ford

00:54:55.980 II, who was, in fact, not a very good CEO. But the entire premise of the film is that

00:55:00.380 it's the capitalist enterprise that gets this thing going and off the ground and allows

00:55:04.060 them to build this really cool stuff.

00:55:05.520 What I loved about it, though, was it was an honest, I mean, art is always a little culture

00:55:09.380 critical. You know, art doesn't just celebrate a culture. And what I liked about it is it showed

00:55:13.420 capitalism in all the good of it and all the bad of it. It showed you how corporate

00:55:17.920 society can crush individuals and not let them do what they can do best. But it also

00:55:22.660 showed you how the competition that it inspires builds things that are wonderful. You know,

00:55:27.460 and it was really honest. It was an honest film.

00:55:29.800 Yeah, I thought it was quite wonderful. And both of those movies you should see in the

00:55:32.860 theater. And 1917, I've seen.

00:55:35.580 Yeah, I've seen that.

00:55:36.220 Which was I saw an early in early showing. And it's it's great. It's great, which I did

00:55:41.700 not expect it to be because I because the director is Sam Mendes, I think, who directed

00:55:45.720 him. So I'm not a huge Sam Mendes fan. Like American Beauty, I think, is one of the worst

00:55:48.920 films.

00:55:49.180 Oh, it's one of the worst films ever.

00:55:50.180 But this film is actually quite good.

00:55:52.980 And it's and the entire kind of conceit of the film from a directorial point of view

00:55:57.360 is that it is one long tracking shot for two hours.

00:55:59.920 Yeah. And so that gets unbelievably creative because they're full on battle scenes happening

00:56:05.140 through this one tracking shot for two hours. It's it's it's it doesn't feel as gimmicky

00:56:09.480 as it did in Birdman. Remember Birdman?

00:56:11.400 Yeah. Which won Best Picture? And it's incredibly gimmicky. It's just not a good movie.

00:56:14.800 This actually I like Birdman.

00:56:16.460 Of course I like it.

00:56:17.420 Oh, you theater people. Birdman is a load of bullshit. 1.00

00:56:20.840 Anyway, Birdman is garbage. This is not a garbage film. And it's and it does have honest, 1.00

00:56:26.360 actual respect for soldiers in World War One without any of the sort of revisionist history 0.96

00:56:30.860 where the British soldiers were duped and morons of the of the higher ups, the sort of paths 0.88

00:56:35.260 of glory view of World War One. It really doesn't have that. It's these guys who are being brave 0.98

00:56:39.660 for the sake of being brave and are fighting some pretty vicious people because it turns

00:56:43.140 out the Hun was not a great. They're pretty brutal on the Germans in the movie.

00:56:47.340 Oh, yeah. And, you know, I have to disagree a little bit with this. I will agree with you

00:56:51.140 in that I really enjoyed the movie. I liked every minute of it. It's unbelievably well

00:56:56.000 shot. It's beautiful. The performance by the main actor is really outstanding. Yeah.

00:57:01.880 However, I left the movie. I won't give any spoilers, but I left the movie feeling that

00:57:05.980 it was more a video game than a movie that it actually and my takeaway from that is that

00:57:11.000 the movie like so many movies today just became about how skillful the movie was rather than

00:57:16.940 about telling a full story with full character and full plot that it's not a film that could

00:57:21.080 have ever been made in the past. The ability to do a movie that's essentially a guy running

00:57:26.520 for two hours and actually have that be killed. It's technically impossible.

00:57:30.720 Did you see Richard Jewell? No, you said this.

00:57:33.460 You know, it's funny. When it came out and it bombed, I cringed because I knew what all

00:57:37.740 the stories were going to say. It was Clint Eastwood's biggest bomb since True Crime, which

00:57:42.080 was based on my novel. But the only difference was True Crime was not one of Clint's best movies.

00:57:47.440 And this was a really good movie. And the performances are unbelievable. Olivia Wilde,

00:57:53.980 who plays the kind of wild, crazy reporter who will do anything for a story. And I've

00:57:59.480 worked with a lot of those women, basically. And she gets that character. She is so real.

00:58:04.080 She's almost three-dimensional. She almost comes out of the screen and stands there in 0.70

00:58:07.780 front of you. It's an unbelievable performance. The lead guy whose name I don't even know who

00:58:12.060 plays Richard Jewell, it's like an uncanny performance. It's just like you forget that

00:58:18.400 he's acting. I know that's a cliché thing to say, but you actually forget that he's

00:58:21.920 not the guy. It's a really good movie. And the thing that's different, the funny thing

00:58:26.380 about True Crime is True Crime is true crime is about a white guy who's put on, the novel 0.59

00:58:30.520 is about a white guy who's put on death row because they don't want any more black guys

00:58:34.260 on death row and they make a mistake. And they changed it in the movie and made him a black

00:58:38.140 guy, which ruined the entire story. In this one, Clint just goes for it. He just says,

00:58:42.460 the press is dishonest. They stink. Ordinary Americans are where it's at. And it's really, 1.00

00:58:47.580 really beautiful.

00:58:48.500 Did any of you guys see Joker?

00:58:50.160 Yeah.

00:58:50.940 What did you guys think of it?

00:58:52.380 Well, you know, I didn't like Taxi Driver, and I thought this was kind of a better version

00:58:55.980 of Taxi Driver.

00:58:57.780 Right. I wasn't totally taken with it. I mean, I think he's a good actor. He's kind of limited

00:59:03.020 in at least the types of roles he plays. He's pretty much always playing some version

00:59:07.660 of the Joker, this very intense, introspective kind of weird guy. But I just felt it didn't...

00:59:15.220 I hate the superhero movies. I felt it didn't really do respect to anything about that superhero

00:59:21.120 story and that superhero genre. So I can't say I loved it.

00:59:24.080 Yeah. So this was sort of my take as well, which was that on its own, if it was just a

00:59:27.420 movie about a dispossessed guy going nuts, which is basically the movie, then it works

00:59:31.280 from that perspective. And there is a scene with Robert De Niro near the end that really is

00:59:34.920 a truly great scene.

00:59:35.660 It's a phenomenal scene. It is a really, really good scene. And it is, again, a commentary

00:59:38.300 on the media and what the media do. And anytime they comment... I mean, there may be a theme

00:59:41.800 that you've noticed in the show, which is that anything that rips on the media, we're in

00:59:44.580 favor of.

00:59:45.520 But my biggest problem with the film is that because the Joker is a Batman character, the

00:59:50.540 entire question is, does he provide a worthy rival to Batman? For me, as a fan of the Batman

00:59:55.660 series. And so Heath Ledger, obviously his character is insanely clever. He's pre-planning

01:00:00.420 everything. He's always three steps ahead. So the fact that Batman has a hard time

01:00:03.460 handling him makes a lot of sense. In this movie, basically, the Joker is a loser with 0.95

01:00:08.560 severe mental illness who sort of lucks into these plots, but he keeps getting arrested. 0.98

01:00:13.460 I mean, he's pretty feckless. I mean, he's not good at what he does and he's not subtle

01:00:16.520 about what he does.

01:00:17.100 It's interesting. I hadn't thought of that.

01:00:17.880 And so the idea that Bruce Wayne, who's supposed to be this genius billionaire with unlimited

01:00:21.420 resources, would have any trouble at all capturing the Joker or putting him down,

01:00:25.440 that didn't play for me. But otherwise, I kind of thought it was overrated, which I was

01:00:29.140 shocked by because I thought I was going to like it based on how the fact the critics

01:00:31.280 were kind of ripping on him. In fairness, the Joker always gets caught by Batman.

01:00:35.980 Like half of every Batman story starts with, at Arkham Asylum, in the bottom cell. And

01:00:42.660 the Joker's actually already caught. And then he's like, I'm going to escape.

01:00:46.920 But it has to be a challenge, right?

01:00:48.640 Right.

01:00:49.180 I talk about a conservative film, though. I mean, that film basically took place in the

01:00:53.640 New York of the 70s and 80s. It's the indication of its corruption is the porno films being

01:01:00.620 shown all over the place. And basically, the Joker is an anti-capitalist. And they show 0.90

01:01:06.500 Bruce, Bruce Wayne's father, I guess it is, they show him as kind of a jerk. But still, 1.00

01:01:11.640 I mean...

01:01:11.780 He's not wrong. 1.00

01:01:12.380 He's a jerk, but he's not wrong. 1.00

01:01:13.480 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:01:14.240 Right.

01:01:14.520 He's not really unfair or unjust. You're right.

01:01:17.460 And it was kind of a rebuke to that film that I hate so much, V is for Vendetta.

01:01:21.800 Oh. 1.00

01:01:22.480 V for Vendetta is a piece of crap. 0.99

01:01:23.520 It was kind of a rebuke for that because it shows the guys in the masks are really the bad 1.00

01:01:26.740 guys, you know? And I thought that was really worthwhile, too.

01:01:29.560 So you guys know who's back?

01:01:32.160 Who?

01:01:33.480 Alicia.

01:01:34.300 Oh, wow.

01:01:35.720 Alicia, where were you?

01:01:36.660 Where were you?

01:01:37.740 Well, you know, I go to a special pump room because if I were to do that on camera, you

01:01:41.240 guys should charge more for subscribers. But I am back. And I really think...

01:01:46.080 I was not expecting that. I just have to say, of all of the answers...

01:01:49.740 Just being honest. But I am back. And I think that you guys really forgot to tell the audience,

01:01:57.760 I know your favorite film, you know, that was totally unrecognized was Truly Cats. Let's

01:02:02.920 be honest.

01:02:03.340 Oh, yeah, obviously.

01:02:04.580 Magical Mr. Mistoffelees' performance was just stunning.

01:02:08.300 If there's one thing that makes the work of Andrew Lloyd Webber even worse of line,

01:02:14.220 it's beautiful Hollywood starlets teetering on the backside of the uncanny divide, doing 0.98

01:02:23.380 sexual impressions of felines. I'm in. 0.89

01:02:26.780 T.S. Eliot, who is actually a good poet, must be rolling over in his grave that this

01:02:30.500 is what remains...

01:02:30.940 He wrote those little awful poems for his grandkid or something, meant to be hidden away

01:02:35.920 in a box somewhere, never. And then Andrew Lloyd Webber basically blows up his whole legacy.

01:02:39.840 I actually don't hate Andrew Lloyd Webber. I hate cats.

01:02:43.220 Yeah, I hate cats, but I like Phantom of the Opera.

01:02:44.740 No, Phantom is well-crafted. Cats is just absolutely horror.

01:02:48.840 Hey, hold on. Wait, are you telling me that... Just listen to these poetic lyrics.

01:02:53.280 Jellicle, jellicle cats. Jellicle cats. Jellicle cats. It's like about five or a million.

01:02:59.780 You don't like that?

01:03:01.300 Alicia, what are our DailyWire.com subscribers telling us?

01:03:04.600 Well, continuing with the Golden Globes Hollywood conversation, people are, of course, all week

01:03:08.520 long have been talking about how Netflix is the most nominated studio at the Globes, yet

01:03:12.540 they didn't walk away with a single win. Do you guys agree with that decision? It's

01:03:17.900 not the Academy. What is it? The Foreign Press is whatever it is called. Do you guys agree

01:03:22.520 with that, or do you think any of the Netflix things that were nominated should have won?

01:03:26.260 No, none of them should have won. Marriage Story is the most overrated film of the year

01:03:29.660 by a very, very large margin. And maybe close second is Irishman.

01:03:33.680 Oh, my God.

01:03:35.340 Just awful, interminable, nine hours long. It's like Bagnarian Ring Cycle with less action.

01:03:41.540 Totally self-referential and not entertaining.

01:03:43.720 It's awful in every way. I will watch those movies. I'm kind of a sucker for those types

01:03:48.640 of movies, even if I don't really... I don't love the morality of them, but if I get caught

01:03:52.500 in the middle of Goodfellas, even though I don't even like the movie Goodfellas, I will

01:03:55.080 still watch the movie Goodfellas. If I got caught in the middle of Irishman, you could flick

01:03:59.120 the channel so easily. There's no watchability to it at all. It's just awful. And A Marriage

01:04:02.580 Story is the most... It's like... Have any of you guys seen... I know you've seen it,

01:04:07.860 Drew, but have any of you guys seen Kramer vs. Kramer?

01:04:10.300 Yes.

01:04:10.520 1979 film with Dustin Hoffman and...

01:04:12.580 Yeah, yeah. It's a good movie.

01:04:13.980 Right. It is. And Meryl Streep.

01:04:15.560 Yeah.

01:04:15.920 It's like Kramer vs. Kramer if both characters were Meryl Streep. 0.91

01:04:18.920 You mean like nutty neurotic.

01:04:20.500 Nutty, leaving to find myself, abandoning my child. I have to go find my fulfillment. That's 0.57

01:04:25.800 what they both are. They're both awful theater people who make absolute 0.92

01:04:28.900 pap. And then they are like, well, I have to stay in New York to pursue my career. And

01:04:33.760 the woman's like, but I have to leave to go to L.A. to pursue television. And then the 1.00

01:04:37.780 child is like, what the... At no point anywhere in the movie does anybody go, by the way, we

01:04:43.620 have this child. Wouldn't it be nice if one of us sublimated our own desires to take care

01:04:48.660 of our children like any decent parent on planet Earth would? And the fact that this is celebrated

01:04:52.960 as like the bravery, the bravery, I couldn't stand it.

01:04:56.260 I do want to say one good thing about The Irishman is that I once asked my brother, is

01:05:00.180 there, in self-examination, is there a gangster movie so bad that I wouldn't like it? And

01:05:05.820 finally I found one and I feel so much better now.

01:05:07.940 I think there was a really brave choice that Scorsese made, which was to make young De Niro

01:05:14.180 and young Pesci hobble around like people...

01:05:17.100 You know, I just didn't expect it.

01:05:19.520 Honestly, I think I'm saying that they use the de-aging technology. And I was like, but

01:05:22.840 Robert De Niro looks the same at 20 as he does at 80. Like literally the same in the face

01:05:27.720 too. But they de-age him and he doesn't look like... We all know what 20-year-old Robert

01:05:31.140 De Niro looks like because he was in the movies when he was 25.

01:05:32.960 He was in the Godfather.

01:05:33.600 And he was skinny and he could stand up straight to him.

01:05:36.720 And he was a very good looking guy. And now it just looks like Robert De Niro with a lot

01:05:41.080 of makeup. And Robert De Niro old is Robert De Niro with a little bit of makeup. And

01:05:44.800 the scene where Robert De Niro kicks the crap out of the guy on the curb is one of...

01:05:48.440 Like it was at that point that Scorsese should have just gone and reshot the entire scene

01:05:51.860 because him kicking the crap out of the guy on the curb, he's supposed to be maybe 40 at

01:05:55.520 that point in the film. And he does it in front of his daughter. So it's kind of a crucial 0.98

01:05:57.960 scene. He can't just cut it. It looks like your grandfather trying to avoid breaking a

01:06:02.480 hip while dancing the Macarena. It's the most ridiculous thing in the entire world. 0.99

01:06:07.760 That was too real. 0.99

01:06:09.040 Alicia. All right. So now we found out that unfortunately the Oscars for a second year

01:06:15.160 in a row will not have a host. And Ricky Gervais said that he will no longer host the Globes.

01:06:19.580 But do you think he will? Will he be back? Will the Oscars ever have a host? What's going

01:06:23.300 to happen?

01:06:23.900 I'm going to host the Oscars. Because I've never made a comment like Kevin Hart has made.

01:06:29.040 Oh, wait, that's all I do. I'm sorry. I forgot.

01:06:32.200 I don't think Ricky Gervais will ever come back. I think Ricky Gervais is the kind of guy

01:06:36.200 who understands the power of going out on top. I think he just made his statement.

01:06:43.460 The Oscars, of course the Oscars will have a host again. They'll have a host again when

01:06:47.160 we're on the other side of Me Too and Trump. Right now...

01:06:50.760 That host's name will be Hannah Gadsby, the funniest. 1.00

01:06:55.680 Redefining comedy is everything that is not funny. So you've just been getting it wrong

01:06:58.520 for thousands. Comedy means not funny.

01:07:01.020 It's tragedy.

01:07:01.520 It's tragic. Correct. Correct. Is Hollywood going to ever be able to get out of the box

01:07:06.800 they put themselves in? I mean, see, this is why I feel that conservatives, if there were

01:07:10.560 no leftist, conservatives would be the stupidest people in the country. Because this is the 1.00

01:07:14.200 moment for us to build an industry that makes good films that people like and they're openly

01:07:19.460 patriotic and openly, you know...

01:07:20.920 But forget dramas. How about comedies?

01:07:22.680 Really?

01:07:23.240 The space to run in comedy right now is just endless. It's endless. Because the left has banned

01:07:27.760 everything.

01:07:28.700 And you're getting great comedy specials right now, by the way.

01:07:30.760 Right. A lot of great comedy specials that everybody can watch. And instead, what you're

01:07:35.300 getting from Hollywood is, well, what if we remade Ghostbusters but with women? I know 1.00

01:07:41.000 there's this new movie that it's a remake. And I'm trying to remember what it's of. And

01:07:44.680 it's about female CEOs. And it's like every movie has to be a comedy in which the conceit

01:07:52.640 is that it's women basically not being funny as women. Because there are movies where women 1.00

01:07:56.660 are funny as women. But women being men, and all of the lines can be written for men. It's

01:08:01.680 just that it's women playing the parts. And this is supposed to be funny. The problem is 1.00

01:08:04.180 that when stuff happens to women, it's not funny in the same way as when it happens to 1.00

01:08:07.620 men. I mean, I've said this before on the show, but my wife dies laughing when I clock

01:08:11.940 myself in the head. Like, if I walk into the kitchen and I smack my face on a... And this

01:08:16.600 is for the Three Stooges and the Marx Brothers.

01:08:18.080 Yeah, of course.

01:08:18.260 If you walk in and you clock yourself in the head, everybody in the audience laughs.

01:08:21.960 Right.

01:08:22.140 Right. Or if you get hit in the crotch, everybody laughs. It's funny. If a woman clocks herself 1.00

01:08:25.920 in the head, no one's going to laugh because your first concern is, is she okay? Right.

01:08:30.700 That's a really good point. And you know, like they used to make those films, Three Men

01:08:34.200 and a Baby. Men changing diapers is funny. And a feminist would say, what's so funny about 1.00

01:08:38.860 it? Well, it's just funny because they do it badly.

01:08:41.600 They do it badly. They're not used to it. You know, I actually...

01:08:43.800 Well, that's the other thing is that comedy is very largely about people failing to live up

01:08:47.640 to expectation. Yeah.

01:08:48.500 So it's men trying to do something and then being really bad at it. And that's really

01:08:52.760 funny. But the conceit of Hollywood is that women both can be funny and also cannot be 1.00

01:08:56.680 bad at anything. So there can never be a comedy about a person who's just insanely competent

01:09:01.480 to things. That's not funny in the slightest, right? That's actually just called a drama.

01:09:05.300 That's the difference between Incredibles and Incredibles 2 is Incredibles 1 was before

01:09:09.540 the kind of Obama PC era. So the mother had flaws and problems. And in Incredibles 2, she 1.00

01:09:15.600 doesn't, you know, and the dad is terrible at everything. I'm actually less hopeful than

01:09:19.960 you are and less hopeful than you are that Hollywood will recover at some point. Kind

01:09:24.740 of to your point on art forms. I think art forms have their moment.

01:09:28.120 Yeah. Movies are gone.

01:09:29.120 And movies are gone. And there will be something out of Hollywood, I guess, or there will be

01:09:33.160 some new version of Hollywood. But I think the movies are pretty much done.

01:09:36.860 I mean, did you guys see what happened to me this week on The Witcher thing?

01:09:39.340 No.

01:09:39.920 Oh my gosh.

01:09:40.940 Unbelievable.

01:09:41.440 Well, because I read Newsweek so often.

01:09:42.860 Forbes went after me. You know, they had this female character who goes out into what is

01:09:49.860 essentially a medieval battle with a sword and comes back covered in blood and eats a,

01:09:54.800 you know, takes a, rips off a leg off a turkey and bites it. So why not just make it, it's

01:09:58.960 a man. That's a man character. You know, because, because a woman. 1.00

01:10:02.500 Does she have magical powers or anything? 1.00

01:10:03.880 No, no, nothing, nothing.

01:10:05.160 She's just like a normal female who walks into a battle with a sword in 1400 and walks away 1.00

01:10:08.800 fine.

01:10:09.240 She's about your size, you know, and a woman. 1.00

01:10:12.320 So she's not like Brienne of Tarth or something. She's not six foot nine.

01:10:13.960 No, that was, that was a great character because Brienne of Tarth had this sadness about not

01:10:18.460 being a feminine person. 0.69

01:10:20.640 Also, it's credible when she beats the crap out of someone. She's eight feet tall. 1.00

01:10:23.200 Right, exactly. So I said, you know, that woman would be killed in a moment. And the fury that 0.99

01:10:28.060 was unleashed on me, I was thinking, no. And they were challenging me to a sword fight. And I said,

01:10:32.880 you know, if you're in a medieval sword fight, you're not going to be fighting a 65-year-old 0.94

01:10:35.900 scribe. Another warrior who's twice your size. And I just thought like, why, why do we have

01:10:43.500 to lie? You know, I mean, there's so many powerful women characters, so many ways to make women 1.00

01:10:47.640 admirable and respectable and make you care about them. Characters, when you watch the

01:10:52.820 movie, The Ring, the fact that she has a man who does all the heavy lifting for her makes

01:10:57.880 you admire her courage because she's going into a place where she can't really fight like

01:11:02.940 a man can. And it's just that you're worried for her. Also, by the way, in real life, the

01:11:05.820 stuff that women do that's really courageous is just as courageous as the stuff that men

01:11:09.180 do. It's just different stuff. That's right. Yeah.

01:11:10.800 But this comes back to the fact that when very serious people say very serious things,

01:11:16.340 people believe it. There are people in our company, I've had these conversations with

01:11:18.980 some of the young men who work for us in this company who don't know what is just simple

01:11:24.240 fact that men are stronger physically than women.

01:11:27.240 On average. Of course, there's always exceptions. Of course, but you have to say on average that

01:11:32.160 people aren't morons. What he means is on average, obviously. Yes, Brienne of Tarth is stronger 0.99

01:11:35.860 than the scrawny five foot three guy. Like, come on. And that's always their answer. Well,

01:11:39.620 here's a woman who's strong. You think like, you know, I get it. Yeah. Look at Joan of Arc.

01:11:43.260 You, Joan of Arc. I don't think so. Even when you watch Star Wars and you make allowances

01:11:46.760 because the force, because there's this magical thing. Right. But the truth is, if a 90 pound

01:11:51.100 actress swung a bat at a... At Adam Driver, who's an ex-military batman. Adam Driver also

01:11:59.200 swinging a bat, the 90 pound actress would eat both bats. Right. Right. I also love it when like, 1.00

01:12:05.820 so they solve this by giving the woman a bow and arrow, not a compound bow, which a woman could use 1.00

01:12:10.680 because that's a modern piece of technology, but bow and arrow. I couldn't shoot a freaking bow and 0.96

01:12:15.760 arrow. It takes so much upper body strength to actually utilize that rudimentary, 0.97

01:12:21.100 bow and arrow. You're taking, you're, you're putting women in positions where they're acting 1.00

01:12:26.280 as though women have the same level of physical... Honestly, it was the reason, by the way, 1.00

01:12:29.200 that I liked Rise of Skywalker is because they actually solved that problem. That was the

01:12:31.560 biggest problem with Rey's character and they solved it. Right. They, I mean, not to give a

01:12:35.660 spoiler, they did solve it. I mean, I won't give the spoiler. They actually explain why she is

01:12:39.160 great at everything. So she's not just a complete Mary Sue. And you're like, okay, that makes sense

01:12:42.000 now. But it requires that magic in order for that to be credible at all. Otherwise you're spending

01:12:45.740 six years after Force Awakens going, hold up a second. She picks up a sword for the first

01:12:49.720 time and she beats the guy. Here's what I'll say. The most badass fighting women out there 1.00

01:12:54.480 won't fight men. Of course not. Do you? The only people who will say, well, here's this

01:12:58.940 badass fighting woman. You're saying you could take her? Well, no, I'm not saying I could take 1.00

01:13:02.260 her, but she won't fight men like her. That's right. That's right. You use her as an example, 0.90

01:13:07.100 but she wouldn't use herself. Do you remember the moment when the Serena Williams controversy

01:13:10.740 blew up? Yeah. Can one of the great female tennis players beat a man? And initially she said

01:13:15.720 no. And then later on she sort of turned it into, yes, of course I could. They actually

01:13:19.960 did this. This happened in 1996. There was a battle of the sexes and the Williams sisters 0.99

01:13:25.980 said we could beat a man who's ranked outside of the top 200. So they found a guy who was

01:13:30.560 ranked like 203 named Karsten Brosh. He started his morning by playing a round of golf, smoking

01:13:36.360 cigarettes, drinking two beers. He then played the Williams sisters back to back. He beat one

01:13:42.080 of them six to two and he beat the other one six to one. The thing is, if all you respect

01:13:47.780 about women, whether they compete with men, you have no respect for women. This gets me.

01:13:52.360 It's essentially that Michelle Williams getting up and saying, I had an abortion, so I win 0.95

01:13:55.700 a prize. That's erasing your womanhood. That's not being that. That's not. 1.00

01:13:59.700 By the way, women are now the majority of medical students for the first time. Women are the majority

01:14:03.200 of college students right now. And this idea that women are, in order to prove that they're 1.00

01:14:08.240 great at things, have to prove that they are great at all the things that men are great

01:14:11.140 at is just absurd. In order to establish parity, do we have to establish that women are going 1.00

01:14:16.020 to comprise the same percentage of the firefighting force as men? Or can we just be happy that

01:14:19.900 women are the majority of doctors? Like, what is the problem here? 1.00

01:14:22.720 I'm happy that women are the majority of women. I think that that's...

01:14:25.540 But not for long.

01:14:27.000 Yeah, not for long. Well, exactly. I mean, they're trying to erase, you know, half of humankind 0.72

01:14:31.820 and one half that I happen to be particularly fond of. 0.97

01:14:35.440 Well, this is the actual irony of the whole thing is that the left hates women. 0.99

01:14:38.820 They do hate women. Of course they do. Well, because if all you think of women is, are you 1.00

01:14:43.100 the same as a man, that's not respecting women. 0.81

01:14:46.300 Right.

01:14:47.380 Elisha.

01:14:48.500 Hey.

01:14:48.860 A woman. An actual woman. 0.90

01:14:49.920 An actual woman Elisha.

01:14:51.940 An actual woman Elisha.

01:14:53.260 And now for the woman's perspective.

01:14:55.700 Oh, really? Oh, really? That could be fun.

01:14:58.900 All right. Do you guys really think any more Hollywood celebrities are going to follow the Ricky

01:15:03.460 Gervais example and speak out about the hypocrisy or not?

01:15:07.360 Yes. But only comedians.

01:15:08.800 Only comedians.

01:15:09.360 Only comedians, yeah.

01:15:10.920 I think it's actually a really fun time in comedy because nobody's being like, well,

01:15:15.420 there are the handful of people being woke in comedy, including some of the unfunny people

01:15:18.280 that you already mentioned. But I hope that this is a... I don't care if my comedian's

01:15:22.060 left, right, or center. I just want them to be funny and offend everyone.

01:15:23.900 To be funny. I want to say on Ricky Gervais' behalf. I know he's not actually a conservative.

01:15:27.540 But he does own the trees that border my property, and he lets me cut them down every year so

01:15:31.920 I can see L.A. So I really admire that.

01:15:33.800 That's not not conservative. But of course, one of the things, the mistake that we make

01:15:37.760 on the right is any time someone shows any movement outside of left-wing orthodoxy is

01:15:44.120 we try to suddenly claim them. Of course, Ricky Gervais isn't a conservative.

01:15:47.860 And the thing is, I don't actually want to claim them, but I would like him to notice.

01:15:51.480 He sent out a tweet saying, how can I be right-wing when I'm making fun of corporations?

01:15:55.360 Name a corporation that's not left-wing at this point. I mean, the big corporations are

01:15:59.320 all left-wing because they caught on to the fact that big government is good for big business.

01:16:02.740 Yeah, well, one of the things, too, is I hope that they notice who it is who isn't attacking

01:16:06.500 them when they say things, even the things that we don't agree with. Like our friend

01:16:10.180 Bridget Phatasy, you know, on Twitter, she's one of the best... I think she's the best

01:16:14.180 follow on Twitter. But she does do this one thing that sort of irritates me, where she's 1.00

01:16:18.160 like, you know, I don't have a home on the left or the right. And I'm like, no, we all love

01:16:24.160 you on the right. Yeah, you certainly do. We disagree with you. Yeah, that's the thing.

01:16:27.640 But we actually love you, and we're glad you're out there saying the things that we disagree

01:16:30.220 with. Yeah, yeah. I don't mean to pick on her because she's really hilarious. She's great, 0.64

01:16:34.360 yeah. Everybody should follow her. Alicia. All right, now back to serious issues. Do 0.50

01:16:39.100 you guys think that the focus on Iran right now on the news is taking away from all the

01:16:42.560 Democratic focus on the impeachment trial? What impeachment? Correct. The fact that the

01:16:50.520 impeachment has fallen completely out of the headlines. It had very little to do with Iran,

01:16:54.700 actually. It was already sort of falling out of the headlines. They tried to revivify it with some

01:16:58.000 of this Bolton stuff. But the fact is that we're not going to know what Bolton has to say until

01:17:01.080 Bolton says it. And him playing sort of coy with the media and coy with the Democrats,

01:17:05.380 everybody's sort of speculating. If he has some sort of bombshell, my guess is that we'd already know

01:17:09.240 about it. I don't think that we're... The bottom line is you can't keep impeachment as the number

01:17:12.480 one headline in the country when you won't send the articles. Nancy Pelosi has stopped 1.00

01:17:18.600 impeachment. Yeah. Until Nancy Pelosi stops stopping... Even Democrats, like Dianne Feinstein

01:17:22.760 was like, just send this. What are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. And Dianne Feinstein

01:17:26.220 is calling... It's an emergency constitutional crisis. Oh, now we're going on vacation. You know?

01:17:30.020 I think also what happened is, as they've done so many times in the Trump era, they just

01:17:35.580 miscalculated during the entirety of impeachment, Trump's numbers just steadily increased. They

01:17:41.100 realized it was a miscalculation they're trying to... This is why it's hilarious when after the

01:17:45.000 president kills Salami, everybody starts talking about how, oh, he's just doing this because he's

01:17:50.760 so afraid of impeachment. The president is going to dance. Yes. He's going to dance into the Capitol.

01:17:56.340 First of all, Bill Clinton actually did that in 1998 when he bombed Iraq. Yeah, that's true. 0.95

01:18:00.700 So he actually did that to get impeachment out of it. I remember, I was eight years old. I asked my

01:18:04.120 mother, I said, Mom, why are we going to war with Iraq? She goes, Oh, no, Michael. The president's

01:18:08.420 being impeached. Every president has to bomb Iraq and Bill Clinton's being impeached. So he wants it

01:18:12.560 out of the newspapers. Donald Trump doesn't need impeachment out of the newspaper. Donald Trump

01:18:16.760 doesn't want impeachment. He doesn't want it out of the newspaper. I will say, just on a slightly

01:18:20.640 off-topic note, I am enjoying watching the winnowing of the Democratic field. Are you guys enjoying

01:18:24.560 this as much as I am? Oh, yeah. I miss... You just had to bring up that Julian Castro, my favorite

01:18:29.680 candidate, now he's out of the race. Yeah, and I didn't know that he was running until he was dropping out.

01:18:34.400 My favorite thing is how the media laments people after they're gone. They give him the

01:18:37.920 Soleimani treatment. I mean, like... I'm going to start calling it that, like the glowing

01:18:41.860 obits. I'm just going to call it the Soleimani treatment. But it is amazing. Like, after Kamala

01:18:46.520 Harris dropped out and she was terrible, it was like, it's so sad that this powerful black woman 1.00

01:18:51.520 is no longer in the race. And Julian Castro, they wouldn't pay two cents of attention to. It's like,

01:18:55.180 well, he was a real radical who was really revolutionizing the campaign. As each one of them

01:18:59.640 drops out, it's like, wow, that person was just a magical, magical person. But this is part of why

01:19:03.400 the media being all on one side is bad for the Democrats, because the Democrats live in this

01:19:07.860 bubble and they do not know what the rest of us are thinking. They actually don't... They not only

01:19:11.880 don't know what we believe, you know, they have no idea what we believe, really, because they only

01:19:15.900 pick out the things that offend them. But they don't know what ordinary people believe. They don't

01:19:20.380 understand what they look like to ordinary people because they get this reflection, this glowing

01:19:24.360 reflection from the press. They think, I must be doing great. Look at the way Chuck Todd is talking

01:19:28.360 about me. And everybody else is going like, hey, you kind of suck, you know. But I am getting 1.00

01:19:32.080 particular enjoyment from Elizabeth Warren imploding. You're getting what?

01:19:34.780 Particular enjoyment from Elizabeth Warren. She really collapsed. She did. I mean,

01:19:38.520 four months ago, we were all sitting here going, oh, we may have spent good money on a prop.

01:19:42.440 Smart. And now we're all sitting here going, is anybody going to get that joke?

01:19:46.960 You know, the other thing about this is watching the field and predicting who the next guys are going

01:19:52.540 to be. The Democrats do nothing before they wake up and call us racist. That's what they do.

01:19:58.660 Wake up in the morning, they call us racist, then they brush their teeth.

01:20:00.940 And we are watching week by week, every racial minority in the race is dropping out. The next 1.00

01:20:07.240 one out is Booker, right? There's no way Booker's going to last much longer. After that, it's going

01:20:11.120 to be Yang. I mean, you are going to get to a field where hashtag Democrats are white.

01:20:14.700 The one time that the media will acknowledge that Andrew Yang is, in fact, a minority is on the day

01:20:20.800 after he dropped out of the race. And then they replace him on their cable news networks with another

01:20:25.520 Asian guy. Did you guys see this? Just a random Asian guy. No, I missed this one. 1.00

01:20:28.700 Yes. So they showed, it was on MSNBC, yeah? Yeah, seriously. They showed the whole Democrat

01:20:32.520 lineup. Oh, no.

01:20:33.820 And for Andrew Yang, it was the stuff. Yeah, MSNBC. What did you say?

01:20:36.340 I think it was either CNBC or MSNBC. Oh, CNBC. Yeah, and it was just a stock photo. They put

01:20:40.300 Asian man in two. Oh, no. 1.00

01:20:42.380 They screwed someone else, too. Was it Klobuchar? In the same graphic, it was like they screwed...

01:20:45.900 I'm going to admit that I don't know a Klobuchar. In their defense, I don't know, yeah.

01:20:49.320 You just put a woman up there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Klobuchar.

01:20:54.580 So if you are not a Daily Wire subscriber, tonight is the night. Head over to dailywire.com.

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01:21:04.580 tonight, and you will get 15% off. And what do you get for your trouble? Well, you get to ask us

01:21:08.580 questions like this one from Elisha. All right. These guys want to know, do you think that anyone will run

01:21:13.580 as a third-party candidate, and could that help or hurt the Democrats? I don't think it's going

01:21:18.100 to happen. Or if it does, it's not going to move the needle anybody, because they can't really think

01:21:22.380 of who could do it. Well, the one person who could do it, who could potentially cause problems,

01:21:26.360 is Bloomberg. It seems that he's already chosen his side. Yeah. I mean, there could be people on

01:21:31.440 the right who cause problems. If James Mattis were to run, for example, that could be a bit of a

01:21:35.960 problem, but he's not going to. Trump has 95% approval in the Republican Party. Mattis ain't running.

01:21:40.920 I think the only people who could plausibly run would hurt the Democrats.

01:21:46.620 Could you see a world where Joe Biden gets the nomination, and Bernie Sanders just being super

01:21:51.540 old, and super curmudgeonly, and super pissed, just runs third party? Offbeat, but I could see it.

01:21:55.900 It's not impossible. I could see it, because he's a nut, and he's getting up there, and he's thinking,

01:21:58.340 how many more times can I do this? I mean, forever more times. Yeah, 10 or 12, forever more times. 0.86

01:22:03.660 Training Jedi for 800 years, has he been? And he's a genuine communist. I mean,

01:22:07.800 he actually does believe what he believes. So he might actually think, well, these mere liberals

01:22:13.240 aren't really- It is interesting. Well, we didn't talk about it, but Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did say

01:22:18.020 that only in America could she and Joe Biden belong to the same political party. I mean,

01:22:22.860 you can imagine them playing out- China.

01:22:26.760 You can imagine them playing out that line of thinking and giving Bernie a third party run.

01:22:31.520 Especially if it starts to get later in the race, and Biden's really trailing Trump.

01:22:36.560 Here's what I could see. If the Democrats were to pull on Bernie what they pulled on him in 2016,

01:22:41.880 I can imagine him going, screw it. I'm just going to burn this- It's outlandish,

01:22:45.020 but it's not impossible. It's going to be tougher because they have reformed the superdelegates,

01:22:48.860 at least that's reportedly what we're hearing. So it seems less likely than in, say, 2016,

01:22:55.080 but I don't know. Bernie might be his last shot. Listen, Bernie could just actually win the thing,

01:22:59.460 and what could help him win it is actually that after stealing it from him in 2016,

01:23:05.040 the DNC had to make internal changes, which will make it harder to steal it from him this time.

01:23:10.360 They didn't anticipate that he could mount another successful run.

01:23:12.760 Interesting. You know, what's kind of interesting is that when the Clintons still seem to have a

01:23:17.460 certain amount of power within the party and had a lot of power within the party until the defeat of

01:23:21.560 Hillary Clinton, Obama doesn't really seem to have a lot of sway in the party. People like him.

01:23:25.920 You know, they think of him fondly in the Democrat party, but he doesn't, you know,

01:23:30.040 when he opens his mouth and says something that's not leftist enough, they attack it.

01:23:33.280 But the reason is because Barack Obama doesn't current, has not projected any future interest.

01:23:38.900 You have to understand that all the power that the Clintons had for that 12-year period

01:23:42.860 is because they might come back in the form of Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:23:45.580 And nobody's afraid of Michelle.

01:23:47.240 Well, if Michelle started openly-

01:23:48.600 Singly, yeah, this is right.

01:23:49.820 If she started openly seeking office, if Michelle ran for Senate,

01:23:52.500 suddenly Barack Obama would have a ton of power in the DNC again.

01:23:55.220 But right now, he's out to pasture.

01:23:57.440 He seems happy with his Netflix deal.

01:23:58.980 Yeah, he's making millions of dollars.

01:24:00.780 So, I mean, at some point you have enough money, but-

01:24:02.640 He has not found that point.

01:24:05.360 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:05.980 Alicia, we're going to take three rapid-fire questions.

01:24:08.260 All righty.

01:24:08.760 So, most of us are millennials, minus the God King and Drew.

01:24:12.700 But what do you guys think is going to happen to the generation after millennials?

01:24:15.680 Most of us have jobs.

01:24:16.780 But what do you guys think is going to happen to the generation after us millennials,

01:24:23.380 especially with all this talk of gender conformity and LGBTQ things that are being taught in schools, etc.?

01:24:30.660 I think that the generation that proceeds the millennials are actually a riper target for us. 1.00

01:24:37.760 The hope lies in the Zoomers. 1.00

01:24:39.300 The hope lies in the Zoomers. 1.00

01:24:40.660 Yep.

01:24:40.880 They grew up in this sort of leftist monopoly on thought, and they seem to be pushing back.

01:24:47.600 Now, listen, are they affected by it?

01:24:49.640 Yeah.

01:24:49.800 Do they believe some things that, yeah, we lost.

01:24:52.200 We lost, and because of us losing for a generation, they believe some stuff that we wish they didn't.

01:24:57.260 Are they going to give up those beliefs?

01:24:58.840 No.

01:24:59.460 But does that mean that they're going to be little marching line soldiers the way that the millennials have been for the left?

01:25:05.120 I don't think they will be.

01:25:05.860 I think that's right, and I think that's because a lot of them have older siblings, and the older siblings are millennials.

01:25:10.660 And those millennials are obnoxious. 0.56

01:25:12.740 Yes. 0.92

01:25:12.960 I mean, they just, they're the older sibling who has just taken away the ice cream and telling them that they need to eat their vegetables.

01:25:18.980 And the vegetables are not only horrible tasting, but they're also bad for you.

01:25:22.780 Yeah.

01:25:23.000 And all these younger people are looking at the people who are just one generation above, and they're saying, these people are boring as all hell.

01:25:29.380 This is the thing.

01:25:30.660 Leftism is so boring.

01:25:31.820 It's so boring.

01:25:32.180 And the other thing is, is people forget, you know, recently, I'm sure you saw J.K. Rowling spoke some truth to transgender people and then stood up for her truth, didn't let them cancel.

01:25:41.600 She didn't speak up for her truth.

01:25:42.480 She spoke the truth, yeah.

01:25:43.700 And Vox said, has she tarnished the Harry Potter legacy?

01:25:47.100 And I thought, you know, Harry Potter is going to last as long as it entertains people.

01:25:51.060 This transgender thing, it's a fad. 1.00

01:25:53.100 It'll be gone.

01:25:53.780 You know, I mean, at some point, the truth will out.

01:25:55.560 The truth comes back.

01:25:56.320 And it's not that some people won't have these problems, the problem of feeling that they're...

01:26:00.340 When you say it'll go away, you just mean the whole societal movement to suggest that biological women are men and biological women are women.

01:26:04.540 That's right.

01:26:05.560 This is a fad.

01:26:06.780 These are the things that the only thing that's remembered about them is the people who made fun of them.

01:26:10.820 You know, there is actually a great deal of hope in the Zoomers in increasing despair. 0.99

01:26:18.080 There was a piece in the New York Times, came out just yesterday, about how young Americans are depressed, anxious, and killing themselves.

01:26:24.440 I mean, young person suicide is way up.

01:26:26.640 It's up 70% or something.

01:26:27.820 And what I mean by that actually being a sign of sort of hope, ultimately, even though right now it's very damaging, very painful, is because this is a wide cultural phenomenon.

01:26:39.720 It's not merely a pharmaceutical or a psychological one.

01:26:42.320 It is a cultural phenomenon that's happening.

01:26:44.400 And you have a whole generation that has grown up with the totalizing idea of secular liberalism.

01:26:50.720 And they're not just seeing, ah, the economy's not doing well, ah, the tax rates.

01:26:54.960 They're actually feeling a deep personal pain that is wrought by this culture.

01:27:00.280 And I think they're waking up pretty clearly and saying, something here is broken.

01:27:04.860 Something's rotten.

01:27:05.620 We need a new way.

01:27:06.680 That was number one.

01:27:07.380 Alicia, give us number two.

01:27:08.380 All right.

01:27:08.760 Here's a fun question.

01:27:09.640 Do you guys listen to music while you read or do you read in silence?

01:27:13.260 I read in silence.

01:27:15.140 When I listen to music, I actually like to listen to music.

01:27:17.600 I rarely have it on in the background.

01:27:19.080 And I love to read.

01:27:20.100 So I read quietly by myself.

01:27:21.800 I read in silence, but I write with music.

01:27:24.540 Really?

01:27:25.220 Yeah.

01:27:25.600 I can't do that because the rhythms get in my head.

01:27:27.940 Well, I mean, it depends what kind of music you're listening to.

01:27:30.200 If you're listening to something that is very regular, you can't listen to Beethoven while

01:27:33.500 you're writing.

01:27:34.060 You can listen to early Mozart and Bach.

01:27:36.880 Bach you can do it because it's very rhythmic.

01:27:38.640 So it's just very, very regular.

01:27:40.240 So it's perpetual motion.

01:27:41.680 I almost exclusively write to Bach.

01:27:43.980 Yeah.

01:27:44.800 I throw on the Goldberg variations and write a screenplay.

01:27:47.540 I cannot write and have music on because the rhythms of the music get into my head.

01:27:51.760 If it's Flava Flav or Public Enemy, then I can write to it.

01:27:55.200 But it's a classical idea.

01:27:56.220 You absolutely can't have anything with lyrics.

01:27:58.480 Right.

01:27:58.820 No.

01:27:59.120 That was two.

01:28:01.060 What is three?

01:28:02.080 So no Lizzo or Nicki Minaj for y'all when you're writing those screenplays?

01:28:05.700 Or any other time.

01:28:06.780 Okay.

01:28:07.420 All right.

01:28:08.500 Final question.

01:28:09.140 Who are those people?

01:28:10.400 What do you think that the odds are of Republicans taking back the House in 2020?

01:28:15.400 What are the odds of the Republicans taking back the House in 2020?

01:28:18.800 How many seats need to turn, Ben?

01:28:21.340 Well, let's see.

01:28:22.160 The Democrat, they'd have to pick up 20 seats, something like that. 0.81

01:28:25.760 15 to 20 seats?

01:28:26.520 It's not that many.

01:28:27.220 15 to 20 seats?

01:28:28.180 It depends.

01:28:28.820 I mean, if Trump were to win a sweeping victory, then of course they would take back the House.

01:28:33.380 I think that the likelihood right now, if you had to put money on the 2020 election,

01:28:38.380 I think there's a very high likelihood that what you actually see is a pretty close repeat

01:28:41.760 of the 2016 election, namely that Trump loses the popular vote but wins the electoral

01:28:44.760 college.

01:28:45.120 The reason I say that is because every Democrat in California and New York will vote, and there

01:28:49.040 are lots of them.

01:28:49.960 But it doesn't matter how many of them vote in California and New York because they won

01:28:53.080 all those votes last time.

01:28:54.180 So that doesn't matter.

01:28:55.340 I think that Trump has a good shot of winning all the swing states.

01:28:58.000 The problem with that, of course, is that there are congressional seats in all of those

01:29:00.720 states, in New York and in California.

01:29:02.700 And it seems unlikely to me that a lot of those congressional seats are going to swing back

01:29:07.340 to Trump.

01:29:07.940 I think that the highest likelihood is that after 2020, and again, who the hell knows?

01:29:14.160 I mean, I lost a bunch of money on 2016.

01:29:15.740 But my best guess would be that at this point, Trump wins re-election.

01:29:20.540 The Republicans do not regain the House.

01:29:22.400 The Republicans hold the Senate.

01:29:23.540 See, I think if we had the vote today, I think everything is so unpredictable because we

01:29:27.900 know Trump blows himself up.

01:29:29.200 All these things can happen.

01:29:30.500 But if we had the vote today, I think we'd win back the House.

01:29:33.340 I think right now, Donald Trump would win.

01:29:34.460 Well, if you mean today, the greatest news cycle Donald Trump has had in the presidency.

01:29:38.560 I agree.

01:29:39.720 Absolutely.

01:29:40.320 I do think that Trump is, right now, it's his to lose.

01:29:43.340 You know, it's shocking.

01:29:44.500 Over the holiday, I kept reading the newspaper and I kept saying, it was all good news.

01:29:49.160 Because in the...

01:29:50.860 Because all the journalists were gone for Christmas.

01:29:52.360 Well, all the journalists go away.

01:29:53.660 And also the news quiets down.

01:29:55.000 So the news, the real news kind of rises to the long-term stories rise to the surface.

01:29:59.140 The wage increases.

01:29:59.840 The economy is unbelievable.

01:30:02.640 It's unbelievable.

01:30:03.220 No, I was doing the math in my head today.

01:30:06.480 Just the basic categories of what you want looking into a presidential election.

01:30:10.820 You've got a booming economy.

01:30:11.960 You've got the head of ISIS dead.

01:30:13.200 You've got the head of Iran's military dead.

01:30:15.120 You've got 187 good judges, including two Supreme Court judges.

01:30:18.740 You've got record low unemployment.

01:30:20.560 You've got wages rising for the first time in about 10 years.

01:30:23.440 Your 401k is up $89.

01:30:25.220 My 401k is up $89.

01:30:26.840 That's more money than I get my salary.

01:30:28.140 I think we actually have to conclude, right now, election being held today, this guy is an excellent president.

01:30:36.880 You know what's interesting, too, by the way?

01:30:38.480 I wish nothing ill on Ruth Bader Ginsburg, but nobody lives forever.

01:30:41.940 If she actually dies before the election, it's going to be just one of the most fun... 0.91

01:30:46.520 Again, I wish nothing ill on her, but it is going to be one fun election.

01:30:49.500 I mean, the political situation will be fun, for those of you in media batters.

01:30:52.300 No one...

01:30:52.780 If you don't roll, they're not here.

01:30:54.360 That's what...

01:30:54.760 Yes.

01:30:55.000 But...

01:30:55.800 No, I really do wish nothing ill on her.

01:30:58.200 I mean that seriously.

01:30:58.660 No, of course, of course.

01:30:59.460 Listen, the big problem for me is that as we approach 2020, no matter how 2020 goes,

01:31:06.400 one half of the country is going to believe that the election was stolen.

01:31:09.080 Yes.

01:31:09.320 And that is actually dangerous.

01:31:10.560 Because the Democrats have been claiming for years at a time that Donald Trump was not legitimately elected in 2016.

01:31:15.020 Now they're claiming that because of the Ukraine situation and he should be impeached and all of this stuff,

01:31:19.920 that no matter what happens in 2020, he will have prevented a legitimate vote from taking place.

01:31:25.180 Stacey Abrams is the legit governor of Georgia. 0.65

01:31:27.080 And meanwhile, if the Democrats win a victory, I don't see Trump going away quietly into that good night,

01:31:33.740 suggesting that the election was purely and fairly held and everything went hunky-dory.

01:31:36.920 So I think that the chances of a conflagration post-election,

01:31:40.480 and this is particularly true if something should happen to Ruth Bader Ginsburg,

01:31:42.860 if something happens to Ginsburg and the future of the Supreme Court rests on the next election,

01:31:47.520 the, I mean, right now, it's the beginning of the year.

01:31:49.760 Everybody's in kind of a good mood coming off of Christmas.

01:31:51.740 The impeachment thing seems to be dying down.

01:31:53.540 We just had a very good moment for the United States, no matter which party you are of.

01:31:56.440 This is a good moment for the United States with regard to Iran. 1.00

01:31:59.660 You know, mark this moment.

01:32:02.020 Yeah.

01:32:02.440 This moment where everybody's in a fairly decent mood.

01:32:04.940 We may be in the happiest place on Earth.

01:32:05.460 Remember that even when we're in a good mood, like the country is in a fairly good mood after the holidays,

01:32:09.520 we're all feeling good, beginning of New Year resolutions and everything,

01:32:11.700 people are openly clapping for Richard Spencer because he hates Donald Trump.

01:32:15.140 So wait for six months before we start getting to getting...

01:32:18.760 You have to admit, this speaks well of Trump, that Richard Spencer hates him.

01:32:22.200 I mean, that really does, because he's...

01:32:23.520 Yeah, yeah, I've been waiting for four years.

01:32:25.760 I had to finally get here.

01:32:28.040 It's hard to get a smile out of this.

01:32:29.300 This is the point, it was like the Ilhan Omar logic.

01:32:33.040 She didn't realize that in going after the Iran sanctions,

01:32:35.840 she was openly declaring war on Israel.

01:32:37.500 Joy Behar didn't realize that in celebrating Richard Spencer divorcing himself from Trump,

01:32:42.900 she was allying herself with Richard Spencer.

01:32:45.560 And then tomorrow she'll be like, oh, Charlottesville, Charlottesville.

01:32:47.620 Like, yesterday you were literally...

01:32:49.020 I do want to sound one cautionary note, and that is, you're right, economy, all the...

01:32:56.340 You just outlined terrific foreign policy victories, victory over ISIS, victory over Soleimani.

01:33:02.200 When Barack Obama won re-election, all of those statistics that you just cited were inverted.

01:33:09.700 If you look back at any historic election in the 20th century, Barack Obama should not have won.

01:33:14.660 The misery index was very high.

01:33:15.660 The misery index was very high.

01:33:17.060 The economic recovery very stalled at that point.

01:33:20.020 Obamacare, huge, so unpopular that Scott Brown won Teddy Kennedy's seat in Massachusetts.

01:33:24.800 Right.

01:33:24.960 And yet, Obama easily won re-election.

01:33:28.860 And it is because of this thing that...

01:33:30.040 Drew, this is a conversation you and I have been having sometimes with reasonable voices.

01:33:34.960 With louder reasonable voices.

01:33:36.320 Louder reasonable voices.

01:33:38.840 When a country is as prosperous and as peaceful as this country, when people have it this good,

01:33:45.860 when the number one health epidemic among the desperately poor is obesity,

01:33:50.860 when you have the kind of society we have now, which has only rarely existed in all of human history,

01:33:57.680 reality isn't always the determining factor.

01:34:01.120 People's perception.

01:34:02.380 Why is it that we have things as good as we've ever had them in this country,

01:34:05.400 and yet most people feel like we're on the brink of a civil war?

01:34:08.260 Why is it that we have things...

01:34:09.640 We've never had anything better.

01:34:10.960 People are killing themselves in record numbers.

01:34:12.820 It's because some things are not as easy to quantify as the economic index or the job index.

01:34:18.160 Right.

01:34:18.580 Material goods are not everything.

01:34:19.880 There is a spiritual component and there is a perception component.

01:34:23.240 And when you have the very serious people who control almost every facet of popular communication

01:34:28.900 and information distribution, constantly telling you that this is the worst it's ever been,

01:34:33.200 that we're the worst place at the worst point of time, it has a deleterious effect.

01:34:37.560 I mean, today's a perfect example of this.

01:34:39.840 I will be fascinated to see what the polls say about how this Iran thing went,

01:34:43.900 because the obvious truth of the situation is that this is a huge win for the United States,

01:34:48.020 it's a huge win for Trump.

01:34:49.200 That is obviously 100% true.

01:34:51.460 But I would not be surprised if at least half the American people believe that we've just narrowly averted World War III here.

01:34:57.120 That's possible.

01:34:57.300 I have to say, in Ford vs. Ferrari, there's a scene where the two guys get in a fight with each other,

01:35:01.320 and they're fighting, and the guy picks up a soup can to hit him in the head and then realizes it's his friend,

01:35:05.700 so instead he hits him in the head with a bag of potato chips.

01:35:07.820 Reminded me of you and me arguing.

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01:36:14.800 It will be fun, yeah.

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The Michael Knowles Show - January 09, 2020

Daily Wire Backstage： And Iran... (I Ran So Far Away)

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