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00:00:00.000 Hey, Michael Knowles here. The latest episode of Daily Wire Backstage is available now.

00:00:04.240 Join me and a star-studded Daily Wire cast as we discuss the most important news of the day,

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00:00:30.000 Welcome to Daily Wire Backstage, brought to you by ExpressVPN. I am not Jeremy Boring. I am Michael

00:00:48.200 Knowles. Jeremy was otherwise occupied this evening in all the amazing and multiplied projects that

00:00:54.580 we're doing right now. I am joined tonight. I am joined by nobody. Nobody else has made it to the

00:01:02.780 set. So it's me. And we... Oh, hey. All right. There we go. Joined by Ben Shapiro. Thanks, sir. How are you?

00:01:11.860 Good to see you. Yeah, so I asked someone else to be here tonight, actually. There's a conversation

00:01:19.500 I've been waiting for a long time to have with you, but every time I want to have this conversation...

00:01:22.220 About, like, 2024 or... Yeah, no. I'm waiting for, like, almost 10 years to be frank to have this

00:01:29.360 conversation. But every time I start to have this conversation, Jeremy walks in and just kills it

00:01:33.020 dead. Is he coming? Is he... No. No, he's not. Actually, I was going to have Chris from HR step in.

00:01:39.540 Oh, I don't think I... I don't know if I know Chris. For a second. Well, thank Chris. Does he have

00:01:42.420 thoughts on, like... Stopping by. He has thoughts on, like, Russia or... Chris. Yeah, I appreciate it.

00:01:47.380 Michael, great to see you. How you doing? Hey, yeah. Great. So, yeah. It's mostly to

00:01:52.140 prevent me from creating liability for the company that I asked Chris to be here. So,

00:01:55.980 like, there are certain things I'm not allowed to say, like, that you should die in a car

00:01:59.600 fire, apparently. Like, I was told by HR that I'm not allowed to say that. Yeah. But anyway,

00:02:04.100 I felt like now is, like, a great opportunity for a job performance review. Oh, good. We should

00:02:10.540 have been having these annually. Yeah, I agree. Totally, yeah. Again, Jeremy kept stepping in

00:02:14.540 and not allowing that to happen. So now we're going to do that, actually. Yeah. Because he's

00:02:18.500 not here. So let's... You want to talk about, like... So we're going to go all the way back

00:02:22.080 to, like, 2015, 2016, right? My best-selling blank book. We'll get to that. So when you

00:02:28.700 started at the company, you were originally hired with some job descriptions and duties,

00:02:33.400 including, for example, being in charge of social media. Oh, yeah. And you proceeded to

00:02:38.300 never post anything on social media, but you did take a lot of audition calls in the office.

00:02:43.840 You didn't get any movies. And sometimes out of the office. That's right. You didn't get any movies

00:02:47.280 out of them, by the way. Yeah. But you were an unemployable person, so we apparently just kept

00:02:52.080 paying you. Yeah. No, but don't forget, there was a span of, like, three or four weeks when I

00:02:57.040 didn't show up to the office. Because I was shooting. I was filming a project right before that election,

00:03:01.300 remember? Right. And never really saw the light of day, did it? Yeah. You didn't see the... You

00:03:06.460 didn't watch the movie? Did it? What? Was there a movie that... Yeah. Not for Daily Wire. I didn't make any money

00:03:12.400 for Daily Wire. Yeah. Or ever. Yeah. Wait. In any case. So, you know, at that point, we probably

00:03:18.480 should have called HRM. But again, Jeremy kept stepping in, you know, and telling me I couldn't

00:03:22.780 have this conversation, but he's not here tonight. So then you... Then we decided for... By we, I mean,

00:03:27.720 Jeremy, decided to give you a podcast. I guess because I actually was looking up your credentials

00:03:32.020 for the show. And you went to Yale. Uh-huh. And those were your credentials. There was nothing else.

00:03:39.880 I could not find any other productive thing that you had done in your entire life.

00:03:43.460 But as I mentioned, I was number one national bestselling author. Yeah. Then you... Then,

00:03:47.300 as I recall, you somehow scammed me into giving a blurb to a blank book. And I did that. And then

00:03:53.900 you proceeded to not only make several hundred thousand dollars off of that blank book. Yeah.

00:03:57.920 I then proceeded to get you a book contract for that same exact blank book that had already sold

00:04:02.080 several hundred thousand copies. Mm-hmm. Again, because my blurb was on it. And at that point,

00:04:06.060 I wanted to have this conversation. Mm-hmm. As HR can attest. It's in the file. And still,

00:04:11.260 Jeremy stepped in and stopped it. So over the course of the last eight to ten years,

00:04:14.960 I would say that you've probably cost the company a couple million dollars, maybe three. Right.

00:04:20.760 And the return... Is that... That's all?

00:04:22.240 The return on investment has been, shall we say, disappointing. Huh.

00:04:27.260 And between that and the fact that you... We've had complaints, many complaints, almost too many to

00:04:34.080 count. The file cabinet is breaking about you walking around shirtless in the office. Yeah,

00:04:38.800 you're welcome, by the way. We have, like, actual dressing rooms where, you know, where you could

00:04:43.200 put a shirt on and you wouldn't have to... So tonight is the night I have been waiting for nearly all of

00:04:49.960 my professional life. And so, Chris, do you have the paperwork with you, I believe? I do. It's really

00:04:56.180 less of a performance review and more of an excellent interview. What was it like working

00:05:01.860 here, Michael? And what do you see as the biggest problems with the company? So I guess my... I guess

00:05:07.280 the only problem that I would see right now is if I leave the show, then you're the only guy doing

00:05:17.140 the show, right? How long... Guys, how long is this show? 90 minutes.

00:05:23.620 Okay. Um, do we have any advertisers? You. They're paying us money? Probably a lot. Like,

00:05:33.140 there's money? So I lose money if Michael... For the first time ever, Michael being fired would lose

00:05:38.320 me money, is what you're saying right now. Chris, can we do this a little later? I'll come back in

00:05:44.400 two hours. I appreciate that. Two hours. Thanks. Thanks, guys. Listen, man, I'll take what I can get.

00:05:48.040 You know, in the long run, we're all dead. Thanks. Thanks for stopping by, guys. I appreciate it. I'll

00:05:52.780 see you in a little bit. Well, so... So, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Anything to talk

00:06:01.920 about? Uh, well, yeah. No, I actually... I did... I did... Yeah, sorry. My mind kind of... I had a few

00:06:08.740 different thoughts there. So the Wagner group, you know those guys. I was thinking about the coup d'etat.

00:06:13.960 Actually, I do want to get to the Wagner group, but I legitimately... So we should say for some

00:06:19.760 people, the reason Jeremy wasn't here to protect my employment is because he's working on a hundred

00:06:23.180 different projects right now. We've got... Mr. Walsh is out. He might be on his way. He might not be

00:06:28.960 still alive. Drew is alive. I did have to ask about that. I'm glad to know that. Yeah, no, I was told

00:06:33.320 that... I was told that Drew is actually at some sort of event starring Drew, and my initial response was

00:06:38.740 that it was a funeral. It was a starring role. Right. I figured who's in the coffin, but apparently that's not

00:06:43.380 the case. But everyone... Seriously, everyone is doing all these different things right now, and so we can't

00:06:47.720 all meet up to talk about the most important story, which is something about Hunter Biden with drugs and

00:06:54.560 like a payoff and like a... I don't know what happened. That's true. That dude loves hookers and Coke and

00:06:59.860 Parmesan cheese and not paying his taxes and paying off his father, apparently. But the thing... So they went

00:07:05.220 after him. Right. They go after Hunter and they say, okay, we've got all this information. We have

00:07:09.220 hundreds of hours of videos of you committing all sorts of crimes all over the world.

00:07:13.820 And so as a result of that, we're going to hit you with two misdemeanor tax crimes and sort of a

00:07:19.180 gun charge. And a diversion. And a diversion with a gun charge. I like that it's called a diversion.

00:07:23.580 First of all, it's called a diversion, which sounds delightful. I mean, I would like just in my

00:07:27.040 normal life to have a diversion. So yes, Hunter Biden was... We have him on tape cavorting with

00:07:32.340 prostitutes, and paying them to cross state lines to engage in said prostitution.

00:07:36.500 Apparently, he was paying a secretary on the West Coast. And as we all know, secretary on the West Coast

00:07:40.900 means a whore. So he was paying a prostitute. You're going to go after me from my shirtless

00:07:45.860 changing room. We're going to get hit, Michael, at any point where you were a secretary on the West

00:07:49.100 Coast. In any case... Yeah, so apparently the whistleblower has basically... The whistleblowers

00:07:56.020 have a couple of things to say. Thing number one is that they are saying that the attorney general

00:08:01.500 basically stepped in and stopped the prosecutor in this case from charging in a couple of different

00:08:07.220 jurisdictions. And there's pretty good support for that. Apparently, there was a meeting October 7,

00:08:10.980 2022, in which this particular prosecutor was told by Merrick Garland that he was not allowed

00:08:17.140 to prosecute whatever he wanted. And he then told all of his lower downs. And one of those lower downs,

00:08:20.840 a guy named Shapley, who works for the IRS, that he was not able to prosecute whatever he wanted.

00:08:25.800 So it looks like a cover up by the Biden DOJ, which would not be surprising in any way.

00:08:29.020 Of course. That was problem number one. And then there is that text message, which is insane.

00:08:33.520 For those who have not been watching, there's a text message. It's a WhatsApp message. He says,

00:08:37.500 I'm sitting next to my father. He's writing... He's calling... I'm doing the crime. I'm doing the

00:08:41.320 crime, member of the Chinese Communist Party. Send me the money. Just in case you missed it,

00:08:46.600 I'm sitting next to my father. So I have a question. Why is everyone in politics absolutely

00:08:50.180 stupid? Were they all dropped on their heads as babies? They're accused of crimes, and then there are

00:08:53.960 actual tapes and texts of them doing the crime. They're violating the first rule of doing crime,

00:08:58.360 which is don't get caught doing crime. But he's going to get away with it. Because the only...

00:09:02.380 Look, the hookers and the drugs and the whatever... I mean, first of all, it sounds like an amazing

00:09:05.740 Saturday night. But beyond that... Of course, yeah. The guy knows how to have a party. But

00:09:08.680 the only crime I actually care about, the only crime that really matters to the public interest

00:09:13.480 as a matter of national corruption is the shakedown selling American influence to the highest bidder

00:09:19.220 all around the world. It looks like you got the Bidens dead to rights. It looks like it implicates Joe.

00:09:24.880 And nothing. Nothing. No one will even ask the questions. So in the media, they started to ask

00:09:29.500 questions of the White House press secretary, the world's most talented White House press secretary,

00:09:33.060 and historic White House press secretary, who is historic because she's a black lesbian.

00:09:37.100 And she is... And she said that she's historic, by the way. And they asked her multiple times about

00:09:41.340 this. She's like, I'm not going to comment on that. So he'll come on literally everything else,

00:09:44.740 but this is the one thing where he won't comment on it. I mean, Joe is lying, right? So first,

00:09:47.820 I liked the lawyerly sort of massaging of the response. So it went from the original statement

00:09:54.100 by Hunter Biden's team and Joe Biden's team was, Joe does not know anything about Hunter's

00:09:59.260 businesses, which was always implausible. He was writing on Air Force Two to China to pick up

00:10:02.660 business. And also, Joe and Hunter were in regular contact. It's not like they're estranged. I mean,

00:10:07.200 they were talking the whole time. And then it shifted to the president was not in business with

00:10:12.400 Hunter. That is very lawyerly language. Yeah.

00:10:14.720 I mean, technically, I'm not sure that you and I are personally in business, right? Like I have,

00:10:19.280 I own a part of the company that employs you, but I'm not sure that you and I are technically in

00:10:22.260 business. I've not signed a contract with you at any point. I never gave you a cut of the Chi

00:10:26.100 Com money that I've been getting from overseas yet, unless you, I don't know. I'm not supposed to

00:10:31.500 say that on camera. Can we get Chris back in here? Can we hold on? Yeah. No, of course. They use very,

00:10:36.840 very specific language here. And, you know, I don't know if I were to commit a heinous crime,

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00:11:43.700 slash backstage to learn more. You know, one of these secrets that we've been finding out,

00:11:47.900 these secrets allegedly, and you're hearing all these congressmen and senators talk about it,

00:11:51.620 is that they think that they believe in aliens and UFOs. And I'm so happy that Matt is not here

00:11:55.900 right now because I don't want to hear his stupid nonsense about how the aliens and the UFOs are going

00:12:00.860 to come down from outer space and kill us all so we can have an adult conversation about this this

00:12:05.120 evening. We agree on this. It's going to be a real short conversation. Thank goodness. I do not.

00:12:08.000 Sick of it. I do not care about it. I want to take advantage of every second that I have of Matt

00:12:12.040 Walsh not being in this room because he keeps peddling it. Rubio was talking about this today.

00:12:15.500 Did you see it? Really? Yes. Rubio was, he said, oh, I don't know. Yeah. So what was,

00:12:21.260 what was Rubio's take on it? Rubio said, I've heard from senior people in the government who I respect,

00:12:26.180 who are admirable, who say that they can't really explain this and it's technology that's beyond

00:12:30.740 our capability. I mean, but between that and him like kind of crapping on capitalism recently,

00:12:36.200 I'm having some, I'm having some, some, I like Marco. He's a, he's a very nice man and I,

00:12:41.720 and he's a good center and he needs to stop that. Stop with the UFOs guys. Find something better to

00:12:45.780 do. It's totally fake. I, I, I, by the way, you and your demons. It's demons. Stop with your

00:12:50.660 demonology. You don't think it's demons? I don't believe in demons. Really? Do Jews not believe in

00:12:54.800 demons? Ah, it's, it's a controversial proposition. It depends on your definition of demon.

00:12:57.800 Like it depends on your definition of Jew. Wait a second. No, it's like, if you're talking in sort

00:13:03.680 of the like technical, there are spirits that wander the earth doing evil to people, demon way. Yeah.

00:13:10.040 Uh, I, I, no, no, like, like,

00:13:13.480 Hey, but anyway, we were talking about, we were just talking about Hunter Biden right now. No,

00:13:23.020 we were just talking to walk in. I got no context. Oh, that's fine. No, we were just talking about

00:13:26.200 Hunter Biden. Yeah. We weren't going to talk about aliens or UFOs or anything.

00:13:30.460 Well, I'm not, I haven't been following the news. So that's the only thing I can talk about.

00:13:33.360 Rubio's like half on your side. I hate it. Senator Rubio. Oh, on the, on the, on the UFOs,

00:13:39.020 on the UFO thing. Yeah. Apparently he, he likes UFOs also. Are we going to talk about that right now?

00:13:43.880 No. Anyway, so back to Hunter Biden. Yeah. So back to Hunter. Yeah. Okay. Bottom line is that,

00:13:49.040 uh, Hunter Biden is, Joe is pretty obviously corrupt. No one's going to ask a single question about it.

00:13:54.120 It'll all go away tomorrow. And Joe is so blasé about this that he's openly joking about it.

00:13:58.100 There was video of him today being like, I stole his eyes. I was selling state secrets. He literally

00:14:02.500 joked openly about selling state secrets and everybody's just going to move along with this.

00:14:06.140 It'd be great if we had a presidential candidate who could meticulously target the problems that

00:14:09.560 Joe Biden presents. Yeah, that would be, that would be awesome. Hey, so, you know, I know we can't do

00:14:15.540 horse race this early, but should we do? Is your, is your favorite candidate going to be the

00:14:21.040 nominee? Donald John Trump. Is he going to be the nominee? I mean, if I had to give odds,

00:14:26.300 the answer is yes. I mean, I, I, I'd give him like 65, 35 odds right now. Trump, Kennedy, 24.

00:14:32.740 Sweet. Wait, you're not baby gang. Are you into our, are you into Bobby Jr.? Uh, into him? Yeah. I mean,

00:14:39.940 as a, if I had to choose a Democrat. He's a really ripped hot guy, you know, like, are you? I don't

00:14:44.000 really get the, if I had to choose it, if I had a gun to my head and had to choose a Democrat,

00:14:47.180 I would choose him, but that's not saying much. So, but could he, so here's my argument for,

00:14:51.160 for Trump. He's making a good argument for, for testosterone replacement therapy. I'll be

00:14:55.000 honest. Allegedly, reportedly, allegedly. Dude, he did like eight pushups and then picked up a,

00:15:00.940 and then did like an inclined bench press with 45 pounds on it. Yeah. You don't get to look like that

00:15:05.920 naturally doing 45 pound bench presses and doing eight pushups. I'm just telling you, I work out an

00:15:10.960 hour to an hour and a half a day and I don't look anything like that, man. There's some unnatural

00:15:14.840 things happening. So, you know why the Trump Kennedy thing though? Look, I'm not saying

00:15:19.040 I'm advocating for it or anything, but Trump's biggest weakness is on the COVID backs and the

00:15:23.300 way he handled it. Is that his biggest weakness? I think so. Of all the weaknesses, really,

00:15:27.260 is it the COVID? I think, I think certainly with the Republican party. Or is it the possible

00:15:30.480 imprisonment? No, that's not a problem because he could be elected from prison. He could be elected

00:15:34.740 and pardon himself and then he's good. First of all, if I'm rooting for drama, I like,

00:15:37.840 that would be amazing way for, for season seven of Trump to end. Totally.

00:15:40.980 He's actually being sworn in, in, in federal prison and then he just pardons himself. Yeah.

00:15:46.380 You're like, put your hand on the Bible. He pardons himself and like, bring me the pardon

00:15:49.260 documents. Yes. Like bring them to me. And, and as our friend Alan Estrid has pointed out,

00:15:53.320 as Jeremy has pointed out, the narrative demands the most wild, crazy, exciting conclusion. And that,

00:16:02.500 that would be that. Matt, you're, you're more pro DeSantis. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, certainly,

00:16:08.240 certainly. Well, when it comes to the primary, I think there are a lot of reasons why I prefer

00:16:12.480 DeSantis over Trump, but when it comes to the primary, I'm kind of a single issue voter, which

00:16:17.120 is, can you win in the general election? Because nothing else matters. So even if I agreed that

00:16:22.800 Trump would be a better executive than DeSantis, which I don't, the bigger issue is I just don't see,

00:16:28.420 I don't see his strategy for winning. And I've asked Trump supporters this for months and it's not,

00:16:34.100 it's not accusatory. I'm, I'm saying, how does he win? What's the plan? How, how does he actually

00:16:38.760 win the white house? Because if you can't win the white house, nothing else matters.

00:16:43.400 Here's how he wins. Look, I'm, I'm fairly pessimistic on the whole, uh, him winning

00:16:47.920 electoral shots for Republicans period. And, and, uh, and for Trump too, but Biden's negatives are,

00:16:54.440 are way higher than they were in, in 2020, uh, countries in a different place. Uh, the base I think

00:17:01.160 is more fired up for Trump. You look at some of those, again, I think the national polls this

00:17:05.140 early are pretty silly, but some of them have Trump up over Biden. A lot of them have Trump up

00:17:09.640 over DeSantis. Now you might say, well, okay, the polls are bogus or it doesn't matter. Cause

00:17:13.960 you're only talking about, is there a poll that has Trump beating a generic, doing better than a

00:17:17.700 generic Republican over Biden? Yeah. Uh, generic Republican or DeSantis? Who's the number two guy?

00:17:23.200 Generic Republican. First of all, no, I haven't seen that poll. Yeah. I mean, versus DeSantis,

00:17:27.020 one of the things you have taken into account is, is lack of public knowledge for DeSantis as

00:17:30.340 opposed to universal knowledge of Trump. But the bigger issue, as you mentioned, is that

00:17:33.660 basically the selection comes down to like five States, right? I mean, it comes down to Wisconsin,

00:17:37.000 Michigan, Pennsylvania, maybe Arizona, and Georgia. But if you lose either Arizona and Georgia,

00:17:40.160 you lost the election. It's already over. So if it really comes down to three, right? Wisconsin,

00:17:44.500 Michigan, Pennsylvania, Trump is trailing in all three of those States by every poll that I've seen.

00:17:48.060 I don't see him winning any of those. So what is his, how does he win? Well, his, his, his past

00:17:53.080 magic. Yeah, no, look, I think it's very hard. I mean, I think the Democrats rigged the system in 2020.

00:17:59.400 I'm not saying that Hugo Chavez, you know, went in and poked numbers or anything. We're just saying

00:18:02.720 you shouldn't because that would create legal liability for us. Yes. It turns out it's not

00:18:06.880 true. It'll be Tucker and Michael on Twitter. Uh, but, but, and I'm not, I'm not saying it has

00:18:14.160 to be that, but they changed all the rules and they changed the rules in a way that benefited

00:18:17.080 Democrats in the case of Pennsylvania in a way that violated the state constitution. And, uh, it's easy

00:18:23.220 enough to say, well, Republicans just need to ballot harvest, but it's very hard for Republicans to

00:18:27.020 ballot harvest when our voters are all over the country and their voters are all in these machine

00:18:30.840 cities where you can drive around for two hours and get all your ballot. It's not that hard. Ron

00:18:34.460 DeSantis did it in Florida. He, he ballot, well, first of all, he ballot harvested the living

00:18:39.080 last election cycle. DeSantis also benefited though, from a million new conservatives moving into the

00:18:44.480 state. So the one that, okay, so I know governor DeSantis fairly well at this point since he's the

00:18:48.940 governor of my state and he is meticulous in this sort of stuff. Like he's the, he's, he's actually,

00:18:54.480 he and Trump are almost polar opposites in terms of personality. Like Trump does not care about

00:18:59.300 policy. DeSantis cares deeply about policy. Trump is not a policy wonk. He has instincts. DeSantis

00:19:03.680 is a policy wonk who really digs into this stuff. And when it comes to being meticulous about how

00:19:08.220 he pursues his political aims, DeSantis is really, really good at that. And so, for example, back in

00:19:12.400 2018, he writes about this in his memoir, everybody who was watching that race, like this is a nail

00:19:17.400 biter with Gillum. Remember he ended up winning by like 0.4%. And DeSantis said, and he's told me this

00:19:22.460 himself. He said, we knew within the first hour of the election that they'd won because they,

00:19:26.840 because they could see the numbers breaking and they knew in each individual county, the numbers

00:19:30.600 that they had to hit. And they were hitting those numbers. They're like, this election's over. And

00:19:34.580 there's no way that that that's worked. I mean, there was an interview with, with Trump where he

00:19:38.620 was literally asked, I think it was by Seb Gorka about ballot harvesting. And he starts up saying,

00:19:42.540 yeah, we'll do the ballot harvesting. And then at the very end, he's like, we don't even need the

00:19:46.580 ballot harvesting. We're just going to win. And it's like, that's not a strategy. I mean,

00:19:50.340 so far his campaign has consisted largely of just shouting things on truth social. And I suppose

00:19:55.400 that's working for him because again, we're very, very early on, but you know, he, he's also avoiding

00:20:00.780 debates. He hasn't really taken a punch yet, but his numbers keep improving. I mean, how do you make

00:20:05.760 sense of that? Because he's the center of the narrative. He's the center of the narrative.

00:20:08.860 And, and the, and if the center of the narrative, here's, here's the reality. No one wants to talk

00:20:13.360 about Biden. Trump is innately interesting to talk about. He's just a way more interesting person than Joe

00:20:17.200 Biden. And by the way, you can tell us, I can tell us from my own data, right? Like if I put Joe Biden

00:20:22.180 in a thumbnail on YouTube, ratings, death, ratings, death. No one wants to talk about Joe Biden. He's

00:20:27.260 incredibly boring. We've, we've, we've actually done him a favor by talking about how he is no

00:20:32.380 longer capable of forming human sentences from his face hole. That's actually a favor to him because

00:20:36.160 it makes him even more boring. And so when he does something that's truly terrible, we're like,

00:20:39.100 you mean the, the genial old man who can't speak words from his face hole. And so, but, but Trump is

00:20:44.280 magnetic. He's really interesting to talk about because he has no limits. I mean, he literally,

00:20:49.340 we're making fun of Hunter Biden for, for, you know, saying that he was doing the crimes.

00:20:54.400 Donald Trump is said that he did crimes. I mean, you shouldn't do that.

00:20:59.180 Kind of.

00:20:59.580 No, not, not, not kind of.

00:21:00.860 I don't buy it.

00:21:01.540 Okay. So that two things can be true at once. One, he should not be prosecuted for this because

00:21:04.320 Hillary wasn't. Yeah.

00:21:05.380 Two, he said he did the crimes. I'm sorry he did.

00:21:06.900 What did he say? So he, they have some audio tape that they're playing.

00:21:09.140 Some audio tape.

00:21:10.080 It's some audio tape. Look, this, this beautiful audio tape, but they, they have it on CNN.

00:21:13.780 And it's him saying, look, these are classified documents and I could have declassified them when

00:21:17.460 I was president, but you know, I can't do it now or something. Right. Yes. Yeah. Okay.

00:21:21.740 Which is the crime. Yeah. The literal crime. The crime is you are, you are keeping classified

00:21:25.300 documents that you could not declassify and you did not turn those back into the national archive.

00:21:29.080 But what, what if, that's the crime, but what, what if he turns to the, uh, I'll call it the

00:21:32.920 Jordan Walker, uh, project very toss excuse and say, bro, I was literally lying. I did declassify them.

00:21:39.220 The very fact that the president can declassify on a whim without answering to anybody.

00:21:42.700 Why in the world would he say that to somebody? That's like the worst offense in the entire

00:21:46.880 world. Did you, that's like saying, that's like me telling you I murdered my wife after

00:21:50.760 my wife was dead. And then later I was like, I was lying to you. And I said, I murdered my

00:21:53.680 wife. I actually didn't just to look cool. I told you I murdered my wife. The reason he

00:21:56.700 would say that is to avoid prosecution for this particular crime. But also you're saying,

00:22:00.500 why did Donald Trump say something outlandish? I mean, we could go back.

00:22:03.720 It's not, but it's not, no, the thing, no, I'm saying that he has no defense to the thing

00:22:07.340 that he said that's outlandish. And then he went on Brett Baier and he was like, there

00:22:10.420 were newspapers I was talking about. And then in the tape, he's like, these are not.

00:22:13.240 Yeah. I know. I'm sorry. Again, he shouldn't be prosecuted because there's a double standard

00:22:17.160 and Hillary should not, should have been prosecuted. Okay. But here's the thing that I really dislike

00:22:21.120 about the common, the common discourse. Here's the discourse. And what about Bill Clinton

00:22:23.880 when he stole the tapes and shoved them in the sock drawer? That is it. Okay. The sock drawer

00:22:26.700 defense is garbage. Okay. Why is it garbage? The reason that it's garbage is because the

00:22:30.100 Presidential Records Act only applies to presidential records, records made by the president of the

00:22:33.820 United States in pursuit of his job. It does not apply to, to classify documents handed to the

00:22:37.900 president from a different agency. These are called agency records. These are defined in law.

00:22:41.340 The Clinton stock drawer defense that Tom Fitton has tried out. I know Tom, really nice guy. He's

00:22:45.140 just wrong. It's not true. So like, again, I'll go back to my original point. Hillary Clinton should

00:22:50.600 have been prosecuted. If Hillary Clinton had been prosecuted in 2016, by the way, then for America,

00:22:55.580 it's kind of happily ever after, right? Because really, because number one, we would have now

00:22:59.900 realized that, oh, people actually get prosecuted for this particular crime. And then presumably Trump

00:23:03.540 wouldn't have gone and committed the crime. Literally in the tape, he says, these are exactly the type

00:23:07.040 of documents that Hillary Clinton sent to Anthony Weiner. He says that in the tape. Like, what are

00:23:11.900 you doing? But you know what would have happened? Here's my question about this. Forget about the

00:23:15.000 prosecution. Forget about him going to jail. Maybe he gets off because he's in Fort Pierce. Fort Pierce,

00:23:18.020 thank God, very conservative area. Maybe he gets a jury nullification. He did in Jersey, too.

00:23:22.000 Right. I mean, they could bring charges in Jersey. Well, they haven't yet. So they haven't yet.

00:23:25.520 Right. So right now we're just talking about Fort Pierce. So like, so let's say that that happens.

00:23:28.980 Fine. I have a question just for Republican voters. He knows he has the world's biggest target on his

00:23:33.560 back. This is the case he's been making since 2015, right? They're out to get me.

00:23:36.520 They want me. They're out to get me. Yeah. Let's say that you knew that everyone in the world was

00:23:40.960 out to get you. Would you then go commit the world's stupidest crime and then admit on tape to doing

00:23:45.480 the world's stupidest crime? Or would you be uber careful about not doing that? I suppose to not

00:23:48.780 take yourself off the board. I've said a thousand times, I overpay my taxes when Democrats are in

00:23:52.920 office. Of course. OK, because I don't want these people breathing down my neck. I would much rather

00:23:56.920 overpay. I do when Republicans are in office, too. I'd rather overpay my taxes and never have to deal

00:24:00.720 with the IRS. Yeah. Specifically because he makes it. He makes it easy on them. Exactly. That's one of the

00:24:06.860 the number one mark against Trump for me, at least when you look at what actually happened

00:24:11.340 when he was in office. Yeah. And it's not it's not the vax. That's a problem, too. But it's the

00:24:16.060 drain the swamp. You know, you go in promising to drain the swamp and it just didn't happen.

00:24:20.580 Period. It didn't happen. I mean, infamously, Fauci not only stayed in his position, but was

00:24:25.160 awarded a medal on the way out. And part of the reason he didn't drain the swamp, I think, is that he

00:24:29.820 doesn't really understand the swamp. Is it the thing? You have to understand who these people are that

00:24:34.340 you're up against. Now, it's the same thing on the other end where Trump's enemies don't really

00:24:38.400 understand him either. They're trying to make him out to be Hitler or some kind of fascist dictator.

00:24:42.500 So you got two people going at each other that don't understand each other. But this is Trump's

00:24:45.820 problems. He doesn't understand his enemies. I think DeSantis does understand his enemies

00:24:50.700 much better than Trump. But I would still not to not to take the conversation backwards. But

00:24:55.940 even though I prefer DeSantis, if I could be convinced that, because I think another Biden

00:25:02.120 presidency is a disaster for America, an even bigger disaster than the first presidency was.

00:25:07.040 If I could be convinced that Trump really did have a better chance of beating Biden than DeSantis would,

00:25:12.380 then I would support Trump.

00:25:13.240 I agree with you.

00:25:14.060 I would, because we cannot have an 82-year-old Biden taking office in 2024. We don't even know.

00:25:21.640 What does that look like?

00:25:22.380 Do you think there's a dark horse? We're all talking Trump-DeSantis. Do you think there's

00:25:26.000 a dark horse that could emerge?

00:25:27.260 I mean, possibly. If DeSantis really started to collapse in the polls, right, there could

00:25:30.720 be a...

00:25:30.940 Who would be the dark horse?

00:25:32.640 I've heard Glenn Youngkin's name.

00:25:34.340 Brian Kemp.

00:25:35.180 Brian Kemp.

00:25:35.720 Chris Christie.

00:25:37.260 Shut up with Chris Christie. You and Chris Christie.

00:25:39.140 Chris Christie.

00:25:39.600 You and New Jersey.

00:25:40.300 Is that ironic on your part?

00:25:42.740 You're saying, is it a bit or am I serious about it?

00:25:44.280 Yeah, is it a bit or are you serious?

00:25:46.180 I'm asking myself that every day.

00:25:48.120 He started out as a little bit...

00:25:49.280 He came out for training kids.

00:25:50.140 No, no, I'm not advocate.

00:25:51.660 A round, mound, or rebound?

00:25:53.040 The guy went from 1% to like 6%.

00:25:55.840 Pizza the hut?

00:25:56.940 Okay, come on. That's nuts.

00:25:58.540 That's nuts.

00:25:58.860 The Leaning Tower of Pizza.

00:25:59.580 It's the croissants. It's the croissants that we're waiting for.

00:26:02.240 The croissants?

00:26:03.220 The guy's running third in New Hampshire.

00:26:04.540 He loves the croissants. That's true.

00:26:06.720 You were supposed to be describing Trump's path to victory. We haven't done that yet.

00:26:09.260 Oh, yeah.

00:26:09.500 I'm legitimately interested to hear.

00:26:11.100 I'm telling you, I think that probably it's going to be very difficult for any Republican to win, whether it's Ron DeSantis.

00:26:17.580 Okay, but you have to grade them.

00:26:18.600 You have to grade them.

00:26:19.340 Is it easier for Trump to win or easier for DeSantis to win?

00:26:21.780 I don't know.

00:26:22.240 Don't give me the I don't know.

00:26:23.560 I don't know because...

00:26:24.680 Neither do I.

00:26:25.360 No one knows.

00:26:25.940 Here's the problem.

00:26:27.320 Look, I really like Ron DeSantis.

00:26:28.620 I think he's a terrific governor and he's a very strong candidate.

00:26:30.740 The problem for Ron DeSantis is that he's running in the Trump lane and his positions are Trump positions.

00:26:37.840 His entire campaign pitch is, I'm going to do all the stuff that Trump said he was going to do but was not able to do.

00:26:42.920 That's a valid point.

00:26:43.880 And let's say that that's true.

00:26:46.360 People tend to, when given an option between the original and New Coke, original Coke classic and New Coke, they'll go for the original.

00:26:55.660 They'll go for the OG.

00:26:56.600 And he broke the mold, in a way, on certain policy positions, especially with trade and immigration and foreign wars.

00:27:02.120 He broke the Republican mold.

00:27:03.780 He's kind of a weirdo candidate.

00:27:05.400 He inspired people to vote who hadn't voted before, even if you might say, well, that's not going to take him over the finish line in 2024.

00:27:10.720 I just think he is...

00:27:12.960 I don't disagree with you.

00:27:13.960 The real question about Trump as a viable candidate inside the Republican Party, because no matter what I say, people are going to vote, how are they going to vote?

00:27:19.360 But the real question I have inside the Republican Party and what dynamic could change would be that Trump...

00:27:26.860 And it's happened a couple times in the race so far already, and I think it could happen again, is that he actually gets boring again.

00:27:32.040 When he's exciting and he's at the center of the news, then people just immediately resonate to him, mainly in opposition to the left.

00:27:37.540 Because they feel like if the left is attacking him, then there must be something good there, which is an understandable if reactionary response.

00:27:42.880 If he gets boring again, then things could get bad for him.

00:27:46.900 So every time you think it's getting boring for him and he starts to drop in the polls, a new exciting thing happens.

00:27:51.260 He gets indicted in Florida or something.

00:27:53.220 So the thing is, I think that that's likely to continue happening.

00:27:55.940 I think that he'll get boring and then he'll get indicted in Georgia for election interference.

00:28:01.340 He'll just keep getting these kind of narcotic boosts of cocaine hits.

00:28:06.260 Yeah, of course.

00:28:06.600 Oh my gosh, they're attacking Trump again.

00:28:08.420 This is crazy.

00:28:08.920 We need to rush to his defense.

00:28:09.880 Now, the thing that could happen that could hurt him, theoretically, is if you get in a debate.

00:28:14.100 But he's actually being a coward about this.

00:28:17.300 Why would he get into a debate when he's 30 points up?

00:28:20.260 Because when you are in an open primary, where you are not the incumbent president, you debate the people.

00:28:24.620 But he kind of, the thing that's weird about this race is he...

00:28:27.220 No, but I agree.

00:28:28.940 And he kind of is the incumbent, right?

00:28:30.760 I mean, that's what's weird about this race, is he's not the incumbent.

00:28:33.160 Obviously, Biden's the president.

00:28:34.560 But we haven't been in the situation where you had a one-term president who runs again later.

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00:29:40.280 Now, I want a little bit of a hard pivot here.

00:29:42.380 We're talking about, oh, hello, my dear.

00:29:44.820 We're joined by the marvelous Brett Cooper.

00:29:47.300 Listen.

00:29:47.800 We're talking about stupid nonsense.

00:29:49.260 Like, who's, you know, are we going to be able to save the republic?

00:29:51.140 Are we going to be able to?

00:29:52.180 Oh, that's not as fun as what I talk about on my show.

00:29:53.980 I want to talk, and I actually want your take on this.

00:29:56.560 Yes.

00:29:57.620 Did you get into a thing with Nicki Minaj?

00:30:00.580 That is a thing that happened in my life.

00:30:01.900 I know nothing about this.

00:30:03.800 I haven't followed, and I always try to update Nicki's social media feeds, you know.

00:30:07.580 I know you're big in that.

00:30:08.420 I'm a big Minaj head, but what happened?

00:30:11.860 What happened with you?

00:30:12.620 No, Michael, it's not a Minaj head.

00:30:15.180 You're a Barb.

00:30:16.360 If you are a Nicki Minaj fan, you're a Barb.

00:30:18.400 Is she in the new Barbie movie?

00:30:19.560 Is that the thing?

00:30:20.220 No, you're just a Barb.

00:30:20.940 I actually don't know where it comes from.

00:30:22.380 I think she has a song in the new Barbie movie, right?

00:30:24.880 Actually, yes.

00:30:25.800 Yeah, because a lot of people were commenting under your post saying, oh, can you promote

00:30:29.020 this for the Barbie movie?

00:30:30.440 And people were saying, Ben Shapiro is an undercover Barb, which means that you're an undercover

00:30:35.520 Nicki Minaj fan.

00:30:36.600 You know what you call a group of three Nicki Minaj fans?

00:30:40.780 Uh-oh.

00:30:41.140 A Minaj a trois.

00:30:43.680 Good night, everybody.

00:30:44.560 I hope you enjoy Daily Wire backstage.

00:30:46.280 So, hold on.

00:30:46.980 It was going to get tonight right there.

00:30:48.000 You're an undercover Barb?

00:30:50.980 I don't even know what to say to that accusation.

00:30:53.380 Anyway, this all came about because there is a song, a great emblem of Western civilization,

00:31:00.240 a piece of art so reminiscent of the great Gothic cathedrals of the 12th and 13th centuries.

00:31:06.000 It really just inspires you like a Beethoven symphony.

00:31:09.320 It is called Pound Town, a town in which much pounding goes on.

00:31:14.860 And also, there is a second version of this song.

00:31:17.900 It is called Pound Town 2, The Revenge of Pound.

00:31:20.580 I haven't heard it.

00:31:21.120 How does it go?

00:31:21.800 How does it go?

00:31:22.160 Well, first, I have to introduce you to the artist.

00:31:24.220 Her name is Sexy Yee Yee Red.

00:31:25.820 I say it's that because she has two Ys at the end of Sexy for no reason other than apparently

00:31:30.080 no one in the rap industry can spell.

00:31:32.100 And also, I assume, as always, that this was her given name, that she came out of her mother

00:31:35.480 and her mother said, behold, I shall call thee Sexy Yee Yee Red.

00:31:38.160 I think we have the music video.

00:31:40.100 Do we really?

00:31:41.520 Well, I'd like to introduce you all.

00:31:43.280 Oh!

00:31:43.300 I'm out of town, thuggin' with my round.

00:31:45.480 My coochie pink, my booty ho brown.

00:31:47.460 Oh, come on.

00:31:48.080 This isn't real.

00:31:49.000 This ain't a real thing.

00:31:53.240 There's a toilet in the background.

00:31:54.700 Why did you bleep this but not the first thing she said in the song?

00:31:58.100 Why did the bleep come...

00:31:58.820 Selective bleeping.

00:32:00.520 Why did I have to think about the colors of her orifices?

00:32:02.960 And...

00:32:03.680 So, I did a Deconstructing the Culture segment on this song.

00:32:09.800 And as I say, this one is not the one that stars Nicki Minaj.

00:32:14.120 There's a Pound Town 2, The Revenge of Pound.

00:32:17.400 Pound Town 2, more pounding.

00:32:18.780 Electric Boogaloo.

00:32:19.260 Pound Town 2, Electric Boogaloo.

00:32:21.480 And that was it.

00:32:22.000 Pound Town 2, Two Pounds, Two Harder.

00:32:23.560 What we just heard is Pound Town 2.

00:32:26.000 I think that was one.

00:32:26.940 No, that was one.

00:32:27.480 That was one.

00:32:28.020 That was one.

00:32:28.140 So, Pound Town 2 has Nicki Minaj in it.

00:32:30.160 She was like, this is such an inspiring song.

00:32:32.020 I must take part in a remix titled Pound Town 2.

00:32:36.020 And so, I pointed that out while I was critiquing this masterpiece of Western civilization

00:32:39.620 and the apex of our entire creative output since the dawn of time.

00:32:44.440 And Nicki Minaj got mad at me.

00:32:47.500 And so, she then tweeted, and I read to you directly,

00:32:51.480 quote,

00:32:52.480 Roman said, leave his ass out of it, sir.

00:32:55.780 No pun intended.

00:32:56.820 Who's Roman?

00:32:58.140 This is an excellent question.

00:32:59.720 At first, I thought, perhaps she's speaking of the emperors of old.

00:33:03.200 Perhaps, this is a reference to, say, Claudius.

00:33:06.040 Nero.

00:33:07.280 Perhaps Augustus.

00:33:08.200 That was my assumption.

00:33:09.160 And it was not, as it turns out.

00:33:11.800 So, Roman is apparently, she plays many roles as Nicki Minaj.

00:33:15.200 And one of the personalities she inhabits is apparently called Roman, a homosexual man.

00:33:21.000 I know.

00:33:22.700 And this required me to translate this because I don't speak stupid people.

00:33:26.260 So, it said, Roman said, leave his ass out of it, sir.

00:33:28.820 No pun intended.

00:33:29.800 I didn't know that there was a pun that was actually in it.

00:33:32.640 And then, I didn't know who Roman was.

00:33:34.720 So, it took me like a solid, you know, I can knock out like a solid econ book in like three hours.

00:33:39.000 This one took me at least six hours to figure out what this meant.

00:33:40.840 And then, I tweeted back at her because she said that Roman should leave his ass out of it.

00:33:45.620 Not possible, Nicki Minaj, since you apparently have never recorded a song that left your ass out of it.

00:33:50.720 Which is accurate.

00:33:52.220 She literally has not recorded a song ever that left her own ass out of it.

00:33:54.900 So, it's not possible for me to leave her ass out of it because her ass was in it.

00:33:57.460 To which she responded, in classic Barb fashion, next time, I'll be sure to add my D, that is a word for the male appendage, so you can suck it.

00:34:10.220 But suck is spelled S-U-K because, as already noted, spelling is not allowed in Rapville, which is directly adjacent to Poundtown, as it turns out.

00:34:18.060 So, if ever you choose to take a car trip from Rapville to Poundtown, I found other things out about Poundtown, as well, in my journey down this particular Vista.

00:34:27.920 Like, for example, Sexy Red, she says there are rules in Poundtown, including that thou shalt not get chlamydia twice, which she has had, apparently.

00:34:38.560 Not just once, but twice.

00:34:40.240 So, it wasn't just Poundtown, too.

00:34:41.300 It was chlamydia, too.

00:34:41.840 Anyway, she says, next time, I'll be sure to add my D so you can suck it, love you, and then many emojis.

00:34:46.460 To which I responded, surprise twist.

00:34:48.380 Nicki Minaj was the one with the anaconda all along.

00:34:50.660 Wow, you know more about pop culture than you let on.

00:34:53.320 A little anaconda reference.

00:34:54.940 The anaconda reference was...

00:34:56.380 I want to know...

00:34:57.060 I think it impressed her.

00:34:58.440 I don't get it.

00:34:59.260 Okay, so...

00:35:00.260 You've ever heard the Sir Mix-a-Lot classic?

00:35:03.620 My Anaconda?

00:35:04.620 Sure, okay.

00:35:05.620 Right, that's with her.

00:35:07.000 That's Sir Mix-a-Lot and Nicki Minaj.

00:35:08.760 But that came out in the 90s?

00:35:09.800 Didn't that come out in the 90s?

00:35:11.040 No.

00:35:11.380 The remix includes Nicki Minaj.

00:35:13.160 Yeah.

00:35:13.460 Yes.

00:35:14.040 So, there is the original, which is like...

00:35:15.820 Sugar Hill Gang.

00:35:16.440 And then there is the one in 2000.

00:35:16.820 Was she like four?

00:35:17.760 When she was in the song?

00:35:19.000 No, she's like 80 now.

00:35:20.480 Okay.

00:35:21.220 Anyway.

00:35:22.060 How old is she?

00:35:22.920 She's 41.

00:35:23.960 A lady never told her.

00:35:24.520 How do you know all of this?

00:35:26.740 When I dive into a topic, I dive into that topic.

00:35:30.020 What I want to know...

00:35:30.620 But not the actual...

00:35:31.440 Not Poundtown itself.

00:35:32.820 That has weird orifices.

00:35:34.040 I'm sure.

00:35:34.380 Anyway.

00:35:34.720 Is this you two flirting?

00:35:36.180 Is that what this was?

00:35:37.160 Because I know you're ostensibly in a fight here,

00:35:39.500 but it's kind of like a cheeky little hearts and kissy emojis.

00:35:43.220 Well, she's the one doing that.

00:35:44.520 I don't know.

00:35:45.460 I have four children, Michael.

00:35:47.940 I've been married for almost 15 years.

00:35:50.180 You're not tempted by...

00:35:50.220 No, it turns out that, you know, I'm not tempted by the, I would say,

00:35:56.260 the opposite of William Shatner, right?

00:35:58.600 So the William Shatner was, you know, going where no man has gone before.

00:36:03.000 This is the opposite of William Shatner, going where every man has gone before.

00:36:06.280 Okay.

00:36:07.000 And so I don't find that to be a tempting proposition.

00:36:09.940 You know, I've never been...

00:36:14.160 A woman who pitches Chlamydia twice, joining in song,

00:36:18.180 joining in joyful, celebrative song with Nicki Minaj

00:36:21.700 to talk about their bodily orifice colors.

00:36:26.220 No, that was not appealing.

00:36:27.260 I don't know why I'm going to ask this, but how do we know she had Chlamydia twice?

00:36:29.640 She said this on an interview.

00:36:30.900 She had a full-on interview.

00:36:32.300 Yeah, well, Brett, help me out here.

00:36:34.660 Well, no, she did a podcast, and she was talking about the roles of Poundtown.

00:36:37.720 I only know this from the lovely Ben Shapiro show.

00:36:41.960 You're my new pop culture news.

00:36:43.260 I know.

00:36:44.060 Well, I had to catch up on the drama.

00:36:46.120 But yeah, so she had Chlamydia twice,

00:36:47.560 and apparently that's not in the roles of Poundtown.

00:36:50.140 She really is a character.

00:36:51.400 She responded...

00:36:52.100 They did not defund the police in Poundtown, by the way.

00:36:53.780 No.

00:36:54.000 I'm just pointing that out.

00:36:55.100 But didn't she respond to you?

00:36:56.420 She commented back and was like some...

00:36:59.360 I don't know if it was sarcastic or not,

00:37:00.760 but she responded to, I think, the reel on your Instagram.

00:37:04.440 Did she?

00:37:05.000 Sexy red.

00:37:06.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:06.480 And she did respond to something like,

00:37:08.780 thanks for promoting my song or something.

00:37:11.380 Yeah, with a bunch of also-

00:37:12.340 And I wanted, and I responded to her,

00:37:14.620 I very much look forward to Poundtown 4, the quest for peace.

00:37:18.340 This has become kind of a pattern with you, though, because...

00:37:20.920 To get in fights with rappers?

00:37:22.000 Yes.

00:37:22.660 With email rappers.

00:37:23.740 Because they all suffer from face tattoo syndrome.

00:37:25.480 In this case, literally, Sexy Red has, like, face tattoos.

00:37:28.020 Face tattoo syndrome, as I've explained before,

00:37:29.800 is that weird phenomenon where you walk into a coffee shop,

00:37:33.160 and there's some weird lady with a face tattoo.

00:37:35.540 And you're looking at her face tattoo,

00:37:37.320 and she's like, what are you looking at?

00:37:38.620 And you're like, your face tattoo that you put on your face

00:37:41.000 so I would look at it.

00:37:41.980 And she's like, that's offensive.

00:37:42.960 Why are you looking at this face tattoo?

00:37:44.980 Well, I mean, I challenge you not to look at the face tattoo.

00:37:47.820 Yeah.

00:37:48.340 I mean, I thought maybe she just was in a...

00:37:51.060 So, another thing that she does is she colors her hair like this, apparently.

00:37:54.720 I don't know why, but apparently she was out for the Little Mermaid part

00:37:57.680 and just failed.

00:37:58.260 It didn't work out well for her.

00:37:59.860 And in her chlamydia interview, she actually has, like,

00:38:02.500 her hair is orange with black stripes.

00:38:04.900 Oh, yeah.

00:38:05.240 Like a tiger.

00:38:05.680 Her designer was Tony the Tiger from the Frosted Flakes box.

00:38:09.080 Can I just say, just to be the grumpy old guy for a second,

00:38:11.420 it really is a problem that kids are listening to this stuff.

00:38:15.840 Yes.

00:38:16.140 It's a civilizational-level collapse-type problem.

00:38:19.720 Yes.

00:38:20.580 And it's not just that it's so gratuitously vulgar and disgusting,

00:38:24.480 but it's just so stupid.

00:38:26.080 It's so dumb.

00:38:27.560 Dude, we didn't get to the worst part of the song.

00:38:28.760 There's a part of the song where she literally opens applications

00:38:31.440 for her child's stepdad.

00:38:33.180 So, sadly, this person has already born a child,

00:38:36.260 and that child is in her home.

00:38:37.800 And she actually is, like, talking about how she's looking for a dad

00:38:41.640 for her kid in, like, one of the verses of these songs.

00:38:45.160 Well, that's one way to get it.

00:38:46.820 And on her resume is apparently the color of her booty hole.

00:38:50.540 Excellent.

00:38:50.800 This is, yeah.

00:38:51.740 Okay, well, I mean.

00:38:52.640 Now you know things you didn't have to know before.

00:38:54.000 A lot of things I didn't want to know about her.

00:38:55.400 But I, because it's funny, because anytime you complain about pop culture,

00:38:58.600 you always hear people say, well, you know,

00:39:01.280 older generations have been saying that forever.

00:39:02.860 They've always complained about, they were saying back in the 70s,

00:39:05.760 it was demonic.

00:39:06.980 It's like, yeah, they were always right, actually.

00:39:08.840 People back in the 50s who were complaining about Elvis,

00:39:12.800 this is what they were envisioning, is that it would become this.

00:39:15.620 They were, they were, they could not have been more right about it.

00:39:18.100 As always, the slippery slope was totally vindicated.

00:39:19.480 That's right.

00:39:20.480 Yeah.

00:39:21.020 The only graph of civilization that matters is the,

00:39:23.640 you are here graph, the slippery slope graph,

00:39:25.640 that you are here.

00:39:26.500 And it's like, we're about to fail.

00:39:28.300 Nope, we're about, and then it's like,

00:39:29.580 arrow to, like, right before you hit, and you are here.

00:39:32.180 And that's true of all of these things.

00:39:33.600 Basically, everything that you were called the fuddy-duddy for,

00:39:36.120 for saying in the year 2000, you were right on all of them.

00:39:39.820 You were right on, but did you just-

00:39:40.560 I wrote a book called Porn Generation in 2004.

00:39:42.940 I was 21 years old,

00:39:43.900 and it was about the pornification of American society.

00:39:46.400 And I had chapters on rap,

00:39:47.540 and I had chapters on the mainstreaming of pornography in television,

00:39:50.260 and I had a chapter on Disney stars who were becoming highly sexualized.

00:39:53.740 And at that point, it was about Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears.

00:39:55.760 And the book was mocked as fuddy-duddy-ish,

00:39:58.200 and how, look at this young man who's pushing this kind of stuff,

00:40:00.980 and how, what is he worried about?

00:40:02.260 Why is he so worried about all of this stuff?

00:40:03.900 And I'm sorry to say, but I was right.

00:40:06.000 And I really am sorry to say, but I wish I were wrong.

00:40:07.900 I wish I were wrong.

00:40:08.300 There was a very encouraging statistic,

00:40:09.920 and the ute in the room, I think, would understand this,

00:40:12.000 which is, it came out of Gallup.

00:40:14.000 Gallup had its values survey that came out,

00:40:16.300 and it showed a marked shift towards social conservatism.

00:40:20.280 And you see this, especially pronounced in the Republican Party,

00:40:23.520 and you see this all the way on issues like approval of same-sex relations.

00:40:28.480 We're not talking about the issue that everybody's talking about these days.

00:40:30.920 We're not just talking about redefinition of marriage.

00:40:32.480 We're talking about same-sex relations, seven-point drop in one year.

00:40:35.660 You're seeing this across social conservatism,

00:40:37.520 and what's most interesting about it is it's not the old boomer fuddy-duddies who are leading it.

00:40:41.960 In fact, the only group that's becoming more socially liberal are the boomers.

00:40:46.440 It's the younger generations, 18 up to 49, I think it was,

00:40:50.220 that is becoming markedly more socially conservative.

00:40:52.860 So I know it's our job to just complain about the fall of the West every single day,

00:40:56.760 but aren't the Brett Coopers of the world leading the way toward perhaps a move away from sexy EEE Red and the-

00:41:03.600 Toward Virtue Town.

00:41:04.640 Virtue Town, baby.

00:41:05.980 Virtue Town.

00:41:06.460 Virtue Town, one, two, three, and four.

00:41:07.500 Yeah.

00:41:07.820 I mean, am I being overly hopeful here?

00:41:09.800 No, no, I do think it's better.

00:41:10.920 I mean, obviously, there are still things that are terrible, especially with my generation.

00:41:15.020 I mean, I do stories all the time about, you know, the OnlyFans girls and all of that stuff,

00:41:18.260 and I think that it's dangerous because it's being marketed online,

00:41:21.840 but I think a lot of young people are pushing away from things that society is generalizing about Gen Z.

00:41:29.240 Like, Gen Z is now the soberest generation, like, in mid-20s.

00:41:33.520 Most abstinent?

00:41:34.700 Yes, most abstinent.

00:41:35.920 They are the ones that are driving the pushback to flip phones.

00:41:39.160 It's, like, interesting things like that.

00:41:40.640 And even though I think Gen Z can be very misguided with their values and, you know, kind of very emotional and obviously directed in wrong ways,

00:41:49.520 they're still very, very passionate and very civilly aware, even if they are kind of misdirected.

00:41:53.780 And I think that that can be pushed back in a different direction.

00:41:56.640 Obviously, we're seeing changes, so that's at least helpful to me.

00:41:59.080 Like, I look at my comments, and it's so encouraging.

00:42:02.360 Like, it's awesome.

00:42:03.000 I think one thing we have going for it is the most encouraging thing for me with the younger generation,

00:42:06.760 some of these videos we've seen recently of, like, high school kids laughing at the LGBT indoctrination going on in their schools

00:42:13.840 or, you know, tearing down the pride flag.

00:42:15.920 One video in particular, I don't remember where it was, but I think it was a math teacher trying to put on some sort of LGBT video,

00:42:21.400 and the kids were just booing and laughing and pretending to vomit.

00:42:24.720 And it was really encouraging because, first of all, when I was in high school, that's exactly how we would have reacted to that sort of thing.

00:42:29.900 But also, I think it shows that a few things it shows.

00:42:33.300 And one of them is that this stuff, it's not cool because it's what your math teacher pushes.

00:42:38.820 So, yeah.

00:42:39.720 When it became the culture, it's no longer the culture.

00:42:41.240 Right.

00:42:41.440 As soon as, like, the 45-year-old woman who teaches algebra is telling you about LGBT pride, it's like, it's not cool anymore.

00:42:48.360 I mean, it has all the institutional power, but it can't be cool, and it can't be rebellious.

00:42:52.700 It's no longer edgy.

00:42:53.540 I mean, did you guys see that article where they said that, like, has monogamy become the new kink?

00:42:59.280 Because we have gone so far.

00:43:01.220 That is literally, it's a serious article.

00:43:03.140 I'm a sick fetishist because I'm married.

00:43:04.640 Yes, because we have gone so far that now something that is virtuous and correct and good is now the edgy rebellion.

00:43:11.280 Like, the last line is, like, it's dangerous.

00:43:13.640 Good for them that they finally found the kink that brings sexual satisfaction and happiness.

00:43:16.920 Right.

00:43:17.240 Good for them.

00:43:17.820 It took 60 years.

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00:44:52.560 So, yeah, I mean.

00:44:53.840 I'm very hopeful on this.

00:44:55.080 I tell you when I, so.

00:44:56.040 One of the reasons I'm, so one of the things that's happened, the reason this is happening is because, finally, and the reason I think a lot of people feel vindicated who are arguing the slippery slope is the argument that was being made in 2000, in 1995, in 1990 was always a lie.

00:45:08.580 And we kept saying over and over, this is not the argument that's being made.

00:45:11.360 The argument that you are saying you're making is not the argument that you are actually making.

00:45:14.480 Yeah.

00:45:14.580 The argument that you say that you're making is, why can't you leave people alone in the privacy of their own bedrooms to do what they want?

00:45:19.640 And all we really want is to be involved in just monogamous relations with one another where we can go visit each other at hospitals.

00:45:26.120 And it's like, and everybody on the right was like, that's not what you want.

00:45:28.180 What you want is to overthrow key societal institutions, and then you want us to plant those institutions with a morally relativistic view that prizes individual sexual orientation and pleasure.

00:45:38.300 And then you want to bicycle naked down the street.

00:45:40.300 Right, and that's the manifestation of it.

00:45:42.020 That's the final manifestation.

00:45:42.820 Well, we've reached the final manifestation, because after Obergefell, I think most Americans were like, okay, well, you got what you want, so I guess we're done here.

00:45:49.320 And then they're like, well, no, that's not what we want at all.

00:45:52.300 What we would like is for your church to celebrate it.

00:45:53.880 What we need is to make sure that your kid hears about it.

00:45:55.600 We need to make sure that your kid is watching naked bicyclists ride down the street in Seattle.

00:45:59.160 Like, it's really, really important that your kid be indoctrinated in all this.

00:46:01.920 And people were like, wait, why is it important that our kid be indoctrinated in all this?

00:46:05.140 And the answer is because it was always about an entire value system.

00:46:08.040 It was symptomatic of a value system.

00:46:10.620 I think the entire society misinterpreted the call for things like same-sex marriage as, what if we just expanded traditional institutions to include further marginalized people?

00:46:18.680 So this is why it was pitched as basically a civil rights movement, right?

00:46:21.420 The civil rights movement was, voting has existed for a long time and is good, and you should make sure that black people can do it also.

00:46:26.760 And we're like, that makes perfect sense.

00:46:27.920 It's a great institution.

00:46:28.700 We should extend it to include further people.

00:46:30.320 Then, the argument for same-sex marriage was made along the same lines, even though it was fundamentally dishonest, because you have to redefine marriage in order to include that particular definition of marriage.

00:46:38.300 But the idea was, we're not threatening marriage.

00:46:39.840 We're just doing the same thing you're doing.

00:46:41.060 We're just changing the people who are involved.

00:46:42.880 We're expanding it.

00:46:43.340 Right, but that's not what it was about.

00:46:45.340 The entire movement was about, what if we destroy traditional civilizational institutions?

00:46:49.600 And then, what if we supplant those with another form of values that we must indoctrinate your kids with?

00:46:55.900 We must indoctrinate your kids with these things.

00:46:57.660 And I think that's what people are reacting to.

00:46:58.940 They're seeing the mask come off, and they're like, oh my god, I can't believe that the call came from inside the house.

00:47:05.280 Yes, and this is why, by the way, you can see a seven-point drop in approval of same-sex relations in one year, because ideas have consequences, as we all know.

00:47:14.120 And so, we've had some bad ideas, some wrong premises, and it's led to all these kind of crazy consequences, and a lot of people didn't notice it as it was happening.

00:47:20.520 But when you get to the most extreme consequences, then you can go in the other direction.

00:47:26.320 You can say, well, consequences come from bad ideas.

00:47:29.360 And so, I think, especially with Zoomers, they start pulling on that thread, and they say, okay, if this really extreme instantiation of an idea is bad, well, where did that come from?

00:47:38.540 Exactly.

00:47:38.980 Right?

00:47:39.700 And so, they're hurtling back in the other direction.

00:47:42.620 I think it's also, you know, it's symptomatic of just a broader doubt in society's new institutions.

00:47:48.680 So, we like to talk about the destruction of the institutions, and it's true, right?

00:47:52.220 I mean, we have very low trust for all institutions, but the new institutions are the ones we have the least trust in, because those are really—the truth is that all of our institutions basically were Hannibal Lecter'd.

00:48:01.360 I mean, like, their faces are being worn around by people who are not actually the people.

00:48:05.320 They took the institution of science, and they gutted it, and then they wore the face of science around while proclaiming that everybody had to mask up children and all of this.

00:48:10.960 But the new institutions are the things that people doubt more than anything else, because they're clearly and overtly lying.

00:48:17.760 And all the things that they are saying to you, you know are not true, which brings us to Lizzo.

00:48:22.540 So, like, I really think this stuff is kind of important.

00:48:25.880 There's an entire piece in the Washington Post today about why Lizzo is a heroine and is not actually a fat activist.

00:48:34.140 She's an activist for all of us.

00:48:35.480 And being large is really totally fine.

00:48:38.860 And why is everybody—it's a standard of beauty that's really the problem.

00:48:41.960 And here's the thing.

00:48:42.740 Everybody knows in their heart that it's not true.

00:48:44.740 Everybody knows that it's not true.

00:48:45.960 Which is why there's that great meme that's been going around where it's—I think it started with Tim Pool, actually.

00:48:50.040 Where Tim Pool is like—you talk to people on the left, and they're all like, Lizzo's beautiful.

00:48:53.660 Like, you should say, well, you remind me of Lizzo.

00:48:56.360 And then see how that works out for you.

00:49:00.040 Lizzo doesn't believe it either.

00:49:01.620 I mean, she just recently was saying she wants to drop out of music because she can't deal with the criticism.

00:49:07.100 And meanwhile, it's like, that's very telling because she's got the Washington Post, all the major media outlets, every institute, fans, everyone telling her she's beautiful, she's amazing.

00:49:15.960 And then just one—I think that her whole freakout was one comment that one random person left that made it all come crumbling down.

00:49:23.560 It was Candace or something before she blocked Candace.

00:49:26.400 I think she blocked Candace.

00:49:27.260 Was it Candace?

00:49:27.840 I don't know if it actually was her.

00:49:29.340 I think Candace commented on it.

00:49:30.500 But she—I know that she blocked Candace.

00:49:33.620 She's like clapping.

00:49:34.480 She's like, I did that.

00:49:35.240 I did that.

00:49:35.680 Either way, it's just being showered with love.

00:49:39.940 And then one person makes it all come crumbling down.

00:49:41.720 But by the way, this, I guess, is why, to tie it back in with the 2024 and all the other elections, the reason I'm a little down on Republican prospects is, one, because I think the system is rough.

00:49:51.140 You know, the other day we found 300 mail-in ballots in a random locker in Michigan.

00:49:55.900 And I'm not saying it swung the election, but I bet there's a lot of lockers in Michigan.

00:49:59.380 And so that's a systemic issue that you've got to deal with.

00:50:01.720 But more broadly, just look at what we're seeing.

00:50:05.080 We all know that this stuff is crazy.

00:50:06.960 We're looking.

00:50:07.480 We're seeing this reflected in the polls, especially among younger voters.

00:50:09.840 No one really believes that Lizzo is healthy.

00:50:11.840 No one really believes a lot of the lies that we're told.

00:50:14.500 And yet, the institutions, the governing powers in the media and tech and the schools and the government, they're all putting that flag right in front of us.

00:50:23.760 They're all putting the bicyclists right in front of us.

00:50:25.380 None of them are letting up.

00:50:26.720 Bud Light's not letting up.

00:50:27.940 Target's not letting up.

00:50:28.700 None of them are.

00:50:29.740 And why are they not letting up?

00:50:30.980 Because they feel confident enough that the people can be as angry as they want to be.

00:50:35.760 That's not going to make a difference.

00:50:37.100 Even if the many are furious, the few still have the power.

00:50:40.320 I think that this has been one of the best Pride Months in the history of Pride Month.

00:50:44.480 Sure.

00:50:45.080 I mean, because, honestly, you've seen action.

00:50:47.080 What have you been up to?

00:50:48.560 All sorts of brands have basically been like, you know what?

00:50:52.820 The NHL said, you don't have to wear the warm-up jerseys anymore.

00:50:55.820 We're just not going to do this stuff anymore.

00:50:57.580 And you know what?

00:50:58.840 That's great.

00:50:59.280 I mean, again, that's being driven by the excesses.

00:51:02.800 But this is the part that's so funny, is that I will never cease to find it humorous

00:51:06.700 that people suddenly discover that Pride parades exist.

00:51:10.820 I'm never going to stop thinking this is funny.

00:51:13.060 People will be like, oh my God, I was at a Pride parade, and a Pride parade broke out.

00:51:16.660 It's like, yeah, correct.

00:51:18.680 What do you think happens at the end?

00:51:20.080 Correct.

00:51:20.680 The media depiction for 40 years of the Pride parade was, oh, it's just, you know,

00:51:24.200 it's a bunch of nice-looking homosexual families who are walking down the street

00:51:28.420 wearing, like, American pastoral, you know, pitchforks and suits,

00:51:34.060 but carrying a gay Pride flag, just like you would if you were gay.

00:51:37.860 And then what these parades have been since literally ever has been men and assless chaps

00:51:43.060 dancing around.

00:51:44.800 And suddenly, there are cameras trained on it, and people are allowed to notice.

00:51:47.620 And I'm not sure what happened when people were, it's just Twitter, basically.

00:51:51.200 I mean, it's the rise of social media, because before that, it was the media that was basically

00:51:55.260 doing cleanup for all of this stuff.

00:51:56.460 It was like, you weren't allowed to mention that any of this stuff was happening.

00:51:58.720 It's why people are mad at libs of TikTok for actually putting this stuff on her account

00:52:02.520 now, right?

00:52:02.880 They're mad at Chaya, they're like, oh my God, you're exposing millions of children

00:52:06.320 to this sort of stuff by putting it on your TikTok account.

00:52:07.940 She's still search banned, by the way.

00:52:09.460 I don't know if you saw that.

00:52:10.260 Oh, really?

00:52:10.840 Search suppressed.

00:52:11.340 I searched for her yesterday.

00:52:12.680 She won't pop up in search.

00:52:13.880 Many, many other people are reporting this.

00:52:15.480 Some of the independent sites are showing that.

00:52:17.400 I'm seeing some people on the right, you want to talk about misbegotten criticism.

00:52:19.840 There are people on the right who are saying, well, you know, you're just adding to the

00:52:22.620 exposure that these people are getting when they're being exhibitionistic by pointing

00:52:26.200 out that they're doing this stuff and then retweeting the videos of them doing it.

00:52:29.040 And it's like, you're missing the entire point.

00:52:30.920 You're missing the entire point.

00:52:31.940 If the thing is a moral atrocity, if the thing is a problem and more people know about the

00:52:35.680 problem and the moral atrocity, more people are likely to resist the problem.

00:52:38.560 We have to be better, I think, on the right about celebrating our victories when they

00:52:43.100 come.

00:52:44.000 Because I think there's a certain attitude that nothing is ever a victory.

00:52:47.120 It's always terrible.

00:52:48.180 It never gets better.

00:52:49.840 And we're seeing this, too, with some of the stuff in Pride Month.

00:52:52.040 People say, well, institutions are still, these companies are still doing Pride.

00:52:56.140 Well, Bud Light fired those executives.

00:52:57.980 Yeah, Bud Light fired the executives.

00:53:00.100 A lot of these companies are pulling back from the Pride stuff.

00:53:02.640 Hold on a second.

00:53:03.260 Look, I'll let you have your giving me hope moment.

00:53:07.000 But before we do that, yeah, they fire this VP of marketing who took the fall for this thing.

00:53:11.660 This decision was made at a much higher level.

00:53:14.480 And it was made at a higher level because of the asset managers that are pushing ESG.

00:53:18.380 And it was made at a higher level because Transheiser Bush is part of GARM, right?

00:53:22.280 The Global Alliance for Responsibility in Media.

00:53:24.620 And because they've made a deal with the tech platforms such that they're not going to permit.

00:53:29.480 Yeah, but Larry Fink is admitting from BlackRock that he's backed off investments because, by the way, I know people who are deep in this particular world.

00:53:35.500 And they've told me specifically that Larry Fink has really backed off a lot.

00:53:39.080 He doesn't like the bad press, but are the companies changing?

00:53:41.560 I don't buy it.

00:53:42.240 It doesn't matter.

00:53:42.800 I don't care if they've had a real authentic change deep down in their hearts.

00:53:46.380 I don't care about that.

00:53:47.120 What are they going to change?

00:53:47.580 What I want is for them to respond to our pressure.

00:53:51.080 Correct.

00:53:51.220 And if they respond begrudgingly and they don't mean it and they hate us, even better.

00:53:55.400 I mean, on the left, if they get you to do something and they know you don't mean it, that's the greatest victory.

00:54:01.560 So as far as I'm concerned, if Bud Light is pretending, fantastic.

00:54:05.380 They're pretending because we forced them to.

00:54:07.360 But are they?

00:54:07.920 They're still sponsoring these parades.

00:54:09.500 Has that really changed anything?

00:54:11.020 It's not perfect.

00:54:12.260 But even something like Target is still a progressive company.

00:54:14.380 They took the pride garbage and they moved it to the back of the store.

00:54:18.160 Now, a lot of conservatives say, well, it's still there.

00:54:20.760 I think that's awesome.

00:54:22.020 Now, I agree.

00:54:22.400 Now, it doesn't, I'm not going to shop at Target.

00:54:24.560 The fact that they thought they had to do that, that they had to hide, you know, they had to hide their light under a bushel.

00:54:29.820 I'll also tell you why it's important to declare victories when you actually receive them is because it's almost impossible,

00:54:34.540 especially when you're talking not about specific brands like Bud Light,

00:54:37.800 but when you're talking about broad overall brand, you got to pay.

00:54:40.400 So the right is very bad at picking Targets also because it's such a universalistic tsunami of this sort of stuff.

00:54:46.560 The right will be like, well, all the companies are like this.

00:54:48.380 Well, you can boycott like everything.

00:54:49.780 You can't boycott everything.

00:54:51.020 And the reality is that, honestly, like winning any victory from Target, you should take the victory and you should promote that victory

00:54:57.120 because in a lot of towns, Target's the only place that you can actually shop.

00:55:00.260 It's not as though Target is, you know, like Bud Light where you just move over one shelf and now it's Sam Adams, right?

00:55:06.540 Target might be in your area the only convenience store that actually has all the things that you need in like a several mile radius.

00:55:13.560 And so for people to boycott it to the point where they actually got a concerted action out of that, that's a good thing.

00:55:19.560 You can't ask people to do more than they're actually capable of doing, especially when there are no alternatives, right?

00:55:24.380 I mean, we've launched entire brands that are supposed to be responses to this sort of stuff,

00:55:29.240 Jeremy's Razors and Jeremy's Chocolates and all this sort of stuff, but we don't have alternative Target, right?

00:55:34.120 We don't. And so you actually have to pick targets that you can knock down.

00:55:37.120 When you knock them down, you should celebrate specifically because the whole point that the left makes,

00:55:40.640 and this is what they're really about, is they pick people and they hurt them and they hurt them as badly as they can

00:55:45.060 to encourage you and you and me and all of us not to engage in the business anymore, right?

00:55:50.220 It's a shaming and destruction campaign.

00:55:51.800 The point of going after rando lady in a New York park is not that they care about rando lady in a New York park.

00:55:57.060 They don't. They care so little about her. They're willing to destroy her life.

00:56:00.040 They destroy rando lady in a New York park so that you will shut up.

00:56:02.560 And so the same tactic applies on the other side, meaning like if we get Bud Light to even provide the concession

00:56:09.240 that they're symbolically firing people over this thing, how many other companies that were thinking of doing the thing

00:56:15.920 are not going to do the thing? Because why would they step onto the landmine anymore?

00:56:20.320 That's the whole point, is to get them not to step on the landmine in the first place.

00:56:23.280 So this is part of the problem of trying to measure the change.

00:56:25.620 You're measuring the absence of a change. You're actually measuring, in many cases, a company that doesn't do the thing.

00:56:31.340 It's not just getting companies to back off the thing, which we have seen some of, by the way.

00:56:34.600 It's getting companies that were about to do the thing, not to not just companies, too.

00:56:38.720 It's also individuals. Yes. I think the left is good.

00:56:41.040 You know, you can single out. It's correct.

00:56:43.340 You want to pick out certain institutions, certain companies, make examples out of them.

00:56:47.320 But you also do that with individual people, which is something that we did with Dylan Mulvaney.

00:56:50.780 And the difference between Dylan Mulvaney and the random person at the park is Mulvaney deserves it.

00:56:54.680 He put himself out there. Right. He put himself out there.

00:56:56.860 But the plan, by the powers that be, was to take Dylan Mulvaney, make him into a mainstream mascot of transgenderism.

00:57:04.780 And they had this plan. Remember, with his 33, 65 days of girlhood or whatever, this plan, this big gala that he threw to celebrate a year of girlhood.

00:57:13.160 He even said that he was planning that for months ahead of time.

00:57:15.500 So it takes money and funding to do this.

00:57:19.520 So they selected him and said, you're going to be our mainstream cheerleader for transgenderism.

00:57:24.180 Well, some of us on the right said, no, no, no, no.

00:57:26.520 So this is a toxic figure who's pushing something dangerous and toxic on children.

00:57:32.740 And now I can guarantee you that there's not going to be any other companies like Bud Light.

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00:59:06.360 Now, all the things we're talking about, by the way, might be a completely moot point because within a matter of moments, we might be in World War III.

00:59:15.940 Because of the aliens?

00:59:17.720 Okay, here we go.

00:59:18.620 I thought you were being there.

00:59:20.720 Uh-huh.

00:59:21.240 Well, because of certain aliens.

00:59:22.840 You missed it.

00:59:23.060 That was earlier.

00:59:23.720 That was before you came in.

00:59:24.900 Before we get to the aliens.

00:59:25.900 We can get to the aliens before we go.

00:59:27.560 Before we get to the aliens.

00:59:29.900 Do you think they're going to be nicer or are they going to be mean, the aliens?

00:59:33.280 They're demons, so they're going to be mean, Ben.

00:59:35.120 Because of you guys.

00:59:35.640 Well, you and your demons.

00:59:36.560 Yeah.

00:59:37.220 I hope they're not my demons.

00:59:38.480 Between the two of you.

00:59:38.980 Yeah.

00:59:39.760 There are no aliens.

00:59:40.180 I want to interview them.

00:59:40.800 And demons are nonsense.

00:59:42.980 Wait, the aliens are nonsense?

00:59:44.120 Both of the things you're saying are nonsense.

00:59:45.940 I don't care about the aliens.

00:59:46.820 They're not here.

00:59:47.880 I don't know.

00:59:48.340 You were trying to take the conversation somewhere else.

00:59:50.380 No, but then I'm not curious whether you thought the aliens were going to go.

00:59:53.520 I don't even know Brett's view on aliens.

00:59:57.380 This is big.

00:59:57.840 You actually did ask me one time.

00:59:59.400 You forgot.

01:00:00.600 On your member block, you asked me.

01:00:02.340 This is so rude.

01:00:03.480 I can't believe.

01:00:03.840 That's very, that's classic.

01:00:05.020 That's classic.

01:00:05.120 Just like a man.

01:00:06.560 Right?

01:00:07.000 Just out in one ear, out the other.

01:00:08.520 I take the members block very seriously.

01:00:10.140 Yeah, obviously.

01:00:11.300 So I can't believe that I forgot.

01:00:12.380 Where are you weighing in?

01:00:15.460 No, I think that it's very possible.

01:00:18.220 I'm not committed to it.

01:00:20.300 It's not my favorite topic.

01:00:23.920 Like, it's not my, the thing that I choose to dive into.

01:00:27.520 But I think that it's definitely plausible.

01:00:28.980 Can I just get a clarification on the contention that you're making?

01:00:31.340 Is it that there is life in the universe or that that life in the universe has found us here?

01:00:35.160 Both.

01:00:36.160 Yeah, you're crazy.

01:00:37.160 The first one, yes.

01:00:37.840 The second one, no.

01:00:38.320 Anyway, do you agree with him that the UFOs are here already?

01:00:41.760 Oh, I don't know if they're here already.

01:00:42.900 I don't know enough.

01:00:43.540 But I guess that they probably exist somewhere.

01:00:45.740 I think that something else has.

01:00:46.740 I didn't say they've definitely been here.

01:00:47.960 I said it's the most likely explanation for what we've witnessed is that they've been here.

01:00:53.920 I want you to get the footage from Jake Paul.

01:00:57.100 That is going to be huge.

01:00:57.980 Jake Paul has footage of aliens?

01:00:59.600 What if they're here and they're creating Pound Town?

01:01:02.220 Well, then I might believe that.

01:01:03.420 Then I believe that.

01:01:04.020 It's sexy red.

01:01:04.520 It's sexy red because of that stuff.

01:01:06.700 It's sexy red.

01:01:07.520 So Jake Paul has footage, allegedly has the most convincing footage of like an alien encounter

01:01:16.800 in the U.S.

01:01:17.500 And a man has it on this VHS.

01:01:20.020 I think it was in Nevada, I'm pretty sure, from the article I sent you.

01:01:24.420 1973.

01:01:25.220 A little grainy.

01:01:26.540 I think it's a VHS or some kind of DVD.

01:01:28.080 I'm not sure.

01:01:28.380 And this guy has it and he's the only one that has a copy of it and he will not sell

01:01:32.900 it to anybody, but he will show it to you if you go.

01:01:35.600 And so Jake Paul went trying to buy it.

01:01:38.380 Is it Jake Paul or is it Logan Paul?

01:01:39.360 I think it's Jake Paul.

01:01:40.540 He went.

01:01:41.640 Is it Logan?

01:01:42.400 It's Logan.

01:01:43.020 I think you told me Logan.

01:01:43.620 My pop culture is just not.

01:01:45.000 Anyway, whoever it is, I believe him.

01:01:46.420 Yeah, I'm sure.

01:01:47.220 But he goes and he wears the little hidden cameras and he films, he has the guy show it

01:01:51.260 to him multiple times and he gets it from all angles, but now he won't even show

01:01:54.440 the footage.

01:01:56.020 Yeah.

01:01:56.340 Yeah, this is all very credible.

01:01:57.740 This is like the most credible thing that has ever been credible.

01:01:59.760 I'm not saying, I'm not trying to hijack the whole conversation, but it's too late.

01:02:03.020 But you're not, not.

01:02:04.000 You're not.

01:02:04.360 I'm not, not trying to.

01:02:05.340 Yeah.

01:02:06.300 When you've got.

01:02:06.960 What's that box cutter in your hand?

01:02:08.180 This conversational box cutter right there.

01:02:10.340 When you've got, we weren't talking about anything important anyway.

01:02:13.980 When you've got, when you've got government officials, intelligence, people that worked

01:02:18.740 in intelligence.

01:02:18.860 People that would never lie to us.

01:02:19.920 Yeah.

01:02:20.640 Why would they lie about this?

01:02:21.660 See, that's what doesn't make any sense.

01:02:22.700 He doesn't even testify that he has seen evidence of the aliens.

01:02:25.320 He said he read a report that there were, that there was evidence of the aliens.

01:02:28.860 He has not witnessed any tape of the aliens.

01:02:30.400 He has not witnessed any pictures of the aliens.

01:02:31.580 He hasn't actually seen the aliens.

01:02:33.180 So he's a guy who saw a document.

01:02:34.460 Would you believe that he said that he had?

01:02:35.860 I mean, at least I'd find it slightly more credible because then he would actually be

01:02:39.220 somebody testifying that he had seen it.

01:02:41.260 And then we'd have to adjudicate whether he was competent or not to testify because it

01:02:44.140 turns out the vast majority of people.

01:02:45.140 It was an intelligence agency that dealt with these unidentified aliens.

01:02:47.680 Right, but we need to be clear about like what exactly he was attesting to.

01:02:50.540 The thing he was attesting to was not that he like.

01:02:52.300 He was attesting to the testimony of other, of not just one person, multiple people who

01:02:57.400 told him about it.

01:02:57.980 He was attesting to the testimony that he heard from his cousin's neighbor who heard

01:03:01.440 it from a very credible guy who was an alien.

01:03:03.720 I'm not saying he made up.

01:03:04.360 He might not have.

01:03:05.760 He saw a report.

01:03:06.460 So why would you might sincerely believe it?

01:03:07.080 He saw a report.

01:03:07.960 He might believe it.

01:03:08.440 So the report, but why would the government, see this doesn't, the government for decades

01:03:12.160 was every UFO sighting was swamp gas.

01:03:14.940 It was there, whatever.

01:03:15.720 It was a, whatever.

01:03:17.700 It was a weather balloon.

01:03:19.360 And now we're finally starting to hear, well, maybe some of that stuff actually was.

01:03:23.480 This is why I don't believe the government.

01:03:25.540 Like now that they're saying it, I would be more likely to believe the UFOs like 50 years

01:03:28.680 ago when they were saying it's swamp gas.

01:03:29.920 Now they're saying it might be UFOs.

01:03:31.020 Oh my God, it's bullcrap.

01:03:31.800 If you deny it, what you actually are believing the government, you're believing the narrative

01:03:35.720 that they sold us for 50 years about this stuff.

01:03:38.320 Right.

01:03:38.500 They were more credible 50 years ago than they are now.

01:03:40.160 But it also wasn't aliens 50 years ago.

01:03:42.120 50 years ago, it was Cold War spy planes, and now it's demons.

01:03:46.720 Oh, come on.

01:03:47.480 It is demons.

01:03:48.420 It is.

01:03:48.860 Listen, listen.

01:03:49.700 A Catholic fight.

01:03:50.480 Do it.

01:03:50.720 I'm totally serious about this.

01:03:52.180 We know that spiritual reality exists, right?

01:03:54.660 We know that.

01:03:55.780 Demons be in, why would they be in vehicles?

01:03:58.080 Like why are they flying around in the sky?

01:04:00.080 Well, people are seeing these weird things.

01:04:02.000 Yeah, but people see apparitions of all sorts of crazy stuff.

01:04:03.860 Why would the demons be doing that?

01:04:05.760 Do they need vehicles to get around?

01:04:07.540 Because the country is becoming much more vicious and evil.

01:04:11.300 I agree with that, but so why are they going for joyrides in the sky?

01:04:14.880 Yeah, I don't know.

01:04:15.500 They're in the sky.

01:04:16.200 They're on the ground.

01:04:16.540 I don't know.

01:04:16.920 Now, why would aliens come from millions of light years away to take a joyride that

01:04:20.240 apparently crash in the desert like they are?

01:04:21.680 They're not taking joyrides.

01:04:22.680 They're coming here to check out what's going on.

01:04:24.260 Yeah.

01:04:24.520 Because it's crazy.

01:04:25.180 It's because it's Poundtown.

01:04:25.920 It's a crazy town.

01:04:26.920 It is.

01:04:27.120 They wanted to see Poundtown.

01:04:28.480 They did.

01:04:28.820 Okay, can I just say just one thing?

01:04:31.340 A wallace.

01:04:32.140 Terrible place.

01:04:34.140 The most likely scenario is that there are millions, like billions of other civilizations

01:04:39.300 out there, okay, given how vast the universe is.

01:04:42.200 You're saying that's likely?

01:04:43.540 Likely, yes.

01:04:44.340 Given the vastness of the universe.

01:04:46.160 Given the fact that we live in a universe with 100 billion galaxies.

01:04:49.180 It's like there's a really big vacuum.

01:04:50.920 So there must be a lot of stuff in the big vacuum.

01:04:51.780 It's not just a vacuum.

01:04:52.980 It's a vacuum with zillions of planets in it.

01:04:56.140 Yeah.

01:04:56.440 Okay?

01:04:57.000 So given that, just a numbers game, I think it's very likely that there are countless civilizations.

01:05:03.540 And so it's likely that we've been visited many times.

01:05:06.740 So there's a threat.

01:05:07.940 Even if I grant you, this is my problem.

01:05:09.620 I can grant you A, but I can't grant you B.

01:05:11.760 Okay, meaning, I would agree with you.

01:05:14.720 The probability is that there are other forms of life on tons of other planets.

01:05:19.360 I agree with that.

01:05:20.100 The notion that it took the form of intelligent life that differed markedly from the development

01:05:23.840 of human beings, I actually, I have questions about that because I wonder whether there are

01:05:27.480 really a lot of other evolutionary pathways to intelligence, given that there's only one

01:05:31.740 that we know about and it looks like us.

01:05:33.120 So I'm wondering, there's all sorts of speculation about weird lobster-looking creatures that are

01:05:37.660 super-duper smart and fly spaceships.

01:05:39.420 I'd like to see some evidence.

01:05:40.920 We're pretty smart and we fly spaceships, so why shouldn't the aliens look like us would

01:05:43.880 be one question.

01:05:44.620 But even if that were the case, let's assume for a second that we're in the mid-level of sophistication.

01:05:48.960 We're not even remotely close to being able to travel to other systems where we can experience

01:05:54.800 other civilizations.

01:05:55.840 What is the idea that they have somehow conquered space and time?

01:05:58.420 Well, because there are planets that have been around billions of years longer than us.

01:06:01.160 Well, and we're much older than presumably other civilizations because all time is relative.

01:06:04.640 Well, sure.

01:06:05.080 And there are probably civilizations that aren't anywhere close to us in advancement, but most

01:06:08.420 likely there are many that are well beyond us.

01:06:10.720 But why do you think they would be able to, in just a few short billion years, cross these

01:06:17.480 expanses that we're talking about?

01:06:18.560 I mean, it's inconceivable to us, but you also have to keep in mind the 20th century.

01:06:21.820 I mean, going into the 20th century.

01:06:22.540 The universe is only like five and a half billion years old.

01:06:24.260 I know, but going into the 20th century, you know, you're still at horse and buggy.

01:06:28.500 So, and then very shortly after that, we're going to the moon.

01:06:33.760 It is true.

01:06:34.140 I'm only half joking.

01:06:35.440 Yeah, but then it's all been downhill since then, so.

01:06:37.360 I'm only half joking when I observed that the AI art programs went, like, a month ago,

01:06:44.460 they couldn't do hands.

01:06:46.040 Like, you'd put in hands and it'd have, like, 17 fingers and a hot dog coming out of them.

01:06:49.360 And now they can make, you know, car cars.

01:06:50.860 Ooh, should we talk about AI?

01:06:51.780 That's happening so fast.

01:06:52.540 Can we talk about AI?

01:06:53.260 Yeah.

01:06:53.780 Hold on.

01:06:54.860 We're still talking about aliens.

01:06:55.880 We are not talking about aliens.

01:06:57.080 We should talk about AI.

01:06:58.440 AI is fascinating.

01:06:59.500 There is one other topic.

01:07:00.580 Listen, I don't want to interrupt our fanciful musings on the bazillions of aliens out there

01:07:05.580 trying to invade us.

01:07:06.680 But are we entering into World War III?

01:07:08.960 Is there a civil war in Russia?

01:07:10.180 Apparently, Richard Wagner almost took over Russia.

01:07:12.740 Different Wagner.

01:07:13.760 Different Wagner.

01:07:14.080 Different Wagner.

01:07:14.660 Yeah.

01:07:14.880 Not the Ring Cycle guy.

01:07:16.500 Yeah.

01:07:17.060 Not the anti-Semitic Nazi-esque Ring Cycle guy.

01:07:18.760 Yeah, I know.

01:07:19.200 A different Nazi-esque weird guy, actually, named Wagner.

01:07:22.200 No, but you know, this was my favorite part of the whole story.

01:07:24.440 So this guy, Purgosian, with the Wagner Group, the Wagner Group, if you're very sophisticated,

01:07:29.480 goes in, leads a march up to Moscow.

01:07:31.660 He's really angry because the Russian defense minister, Shoigu, attacked his paramilitary

01:07:36.340 warlord troop.

01:07:37.480 And so he's going to go up there.

01:07:38.360 Now he's exiled to Belarus.

01:07:39.440 I'm sure he'll be totally fine, though.

01:07:40.740 Putin's a really forgiving guy.

01:07:41.820 Yeah, and he's going to be found having committed suicide by hitting himself repeatedly in the

01:07:45.040 back of the head with a tire iron.

01:07:46.500 By drinking a gallon of polonium.

01:07:47.120 And then, unfortunately, being thrown by himself off a fourth-story window and then run over

01:07:52.760 twice by a car.

01:07:53.760 But my favorite part of the story was, for a brief, like, six or ten hours, you had all

01:07:58.060 these liberals on Twitter and on the internet.

01:08:00.740 And they were rooting.

01:08:01.500 He's the hero we've been waiting for.

01:08:02.860 Rooting for the psycho Russian warlord to take over the nuclear form of superpowers.

01:08:07.120 By the way, I have to say, everything in Russia is so stereotypically Russian.

01:08:10.400 It's pretty incredible.

01:08:11.580 Like, this is a dude who ran a hot dog stand and is known as the chef.

01:08:15.240 That's so amazing.

01:08:16.540 He ran a hot dog.

01:08:17.560 He literally ran a hot dog stand.

01:08:18.720 And then he became the chef by being Putin's caterer because Putin made him, like, one of

01:08:22.060 his oligarchs.

01:08:22.900 And then he created, like, an entire paramilitary system where he paid him billions of dollars

01:08:26.020 for his paramilitary.

01:08:27.180 And then Putin was so weak that he had to call the Chechnians, right?

01:08:29.240 He was about to call the Chechnians to defend Moscow.

01:08:31.600 But here's the thing I have a problem with with this coup.

01:08:33.860 Why don't you just send an email?

01:08:34.820 It feels like really, really, like, a lot.

01:08:37.020 Like, if I were just pissed off at the Secretary of Defense and then I were not going to complete

01:08:40.180 a coup, I would mainly be like, you know, he's a bad Secretary of Defense.

01:08:43.880 Hit Sen.

01:08:44.500 And then I'd probably just go back to ruling Syria and almost all of Africa.

01:08:47.720 So instead, he was like, you know what I'm going to do?

01:08:49.620 I'm going to, in ridiculous fashion, march five minutes up the road toward Moscow.

01:08:54.420 And then I'm going to not.

01:08:57.060 And I'll end up in romantic Belarus.

01:08:59.120 There's an important.

01:08:59.860 Where I weigh radiation poisoning.

01:09:01.260 An important piece of.

01:09:01.940 It's like he was listening or reading, like, Don Quixote and was like, this is my moment.

01:09:05.000 This is my time.

01:09:05.940 I'm going to go on my hero's journey.

01:09:08.060 Until I don't.

01:09:09.020 Never mind.

01:09:09.600 There's great advice that came out of The Wire, which is, if you come at the king, you

01:09:14.880 best not miss.

01:09:16.080 I can't imagine this turns out very well for Prigozhin and the Wagner group.

01:09:20.220 But what does it mean?

01:09:20.900 Does it mean that Putin is really weakened?

01:09:22.360 Does it mean he's going to pull out of Ukraine?

01:09:23.840 Does it mean that this war is ever going to come to an end?

01:09:25.800 Does it mean that we're going to enter into World War III?

01:09:27.640 Like, my favorite part, other than the joke of the libs, you know, rooting for this psycho

01:09:32.080 warlord is nobody knows a damn thing about Russian politics.

01:09:36.120 Nobody seems to know.

01:09:37.320 Because he kills everyone who, like, tries to penetrate the shield of Russian politics.

01:09:40.720 Like, literally everyone dies.

01:09:42.000 You know how many reporters have been killed over there?

01:09:43.680 I mean, it's insane.

01:09:45.180 I mean, they're currently holding a Wall Street Journal reporter, right?

01:09:46.960 I mean, like, this is not a place you want to be.

01:09:49.840 So is the war going to end?

01:09:52.340 Probably not.

01:09:53.040 Because he has to keep throwing people in that meat grinder in the hopes that eventually

01:09:56.220 there will be some sort of settlement.

01:09:57.840 Is it, is the worst case scenario him falling?

01:10:01.240 Quite possibly.

01:10:02.260 Because one of the things that actually was exposed here is that if he falls, the most

01:10:05.780 organized forces in the country are variously the Wagner group, which is, like, psychotic.

01:10:10.840 And the Chechnians.

01:10:11.500 And the Chechnians.

01:10:12.480 So that sounds great.

01:10:13.940 Having those two groups fight over, you know, 2,500 nuclear weapons sounds amazeballs.

01:10:19.200 That'll probably work out amazing for everyone.

01:10:20.900 So, you know, listen, Henry Kissinger, who's been much maligned, that he, his main rule

01:10:26.400 is avoid the least, avoid the worst outcome.

01:10:28.960 Avoiding the worst outcome is typically a fairly decent way of doing foreign policy.

01:10:33.340 And the worst outcome would probably be a giant internal battle in Russia involving

01:10:36.960 people firing weapons at each other while there are 2,000 loose nukes.

01:10:40.880 That seems like the worst available outcome.

01:10:42.660 Yeah.

01:10:43.000 This is where you see the absurdity of Twitter the most, I think, because, yeah, I checked

01:10:47.280 in with Twitter when this was all going on on Saturday morning.

01:10:49.620 And what I discovered is, number one, everyone knows everything about Russian politics.

01:10:54.880 I was the only one.

01:10:55.660 I said, I don't know who this guy is.

01:10:56.820 Like, I don't know anything about this.

01:10:58.040 I know.

01:10:58.380 I'm totally clueless about it.

01:10:59.560 I know nothing.

01:11:00.680 So everyone knows everything about it.

01:11:02.660 And it's the most important thing ever.

01:11:05.140 And then you check back 24 hours later and no one cares anymore.

01:11:08.360 Pergozian who?

01:11:09.160 Yeah, exactly.

01:11:10.160 Makes amazing hot dogs.

01:11:11.540 This is, to me, this is the one, this is the best argument for Trump, actually.

01:11:16.480 This is the one thing that Trump supporters in the primary say that I basically agree

01:11:22.520 with, that I probably trust him the most to not get us involved in World War III.

01:11:28.100 Yep.

01:11:29.000 He had the most peaceful foreign policy of any president of mine.

01:11:31.380 Yeah, because I think he just doesn't care.

01:11:32.760 I think he doesn't care what's going on in the rest of the world.

01:11:35.060 He doesn't want to get involved, which is basically my position.

01:11:38.640 And it's the position I want the president to have.

01:11:41.500 DeSantis I basically trust as well, but we don't know enough about his foreign policy.

01:11:45.000 We just don't...

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01:11:50.100 We're going to talk about it in the member block.

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01:12:01.820 Like there was a guy...

01:12:03.360 Don't say it, Michael.

01:12:04.640 All right, I'm not going to...

01:12:05.540 But it's like a thing.

01:12:06.320 No, no, don't say it.

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