The Michael Knowles Show - Daily Wire Backstage： The Red Wave

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00:01:25.820 a lot of great stuff, a lot of good stuff.

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00:01:35.720 in such fashion.

00:01:37.600 I wanna talk a little bit, though, about the election.

00:01:40.920 Obviously, this is what is on everyone's mind.

00:01:42.600 We're only two weeks out from what I think.

00:01:45.300 I know you guys may not think this.

00:01:48.000 It's probably, this is an original contribution.

00:01:49.960 It may be the most consequential election of our lifetime.

00:01:53.800 I tried to trademark that today.

00:01:55.220 It was consequential.

00:01:56.240 Anyway, a very important midterm election,

00:01:58.200 if ever there was one.

00:02:00.360 And because we're gonna be covering live here

00:02:03.900 at dailywireplus.com on election night,

00:02:06.080 as we are wont to do, we'll get together.

00:02:08.360 We'll have Candace here with us.

00:02:09.340 We'll have also the Daily Wire news crew with us,

00:02:12.700 John Bickley and team from the Morning Wire

00:02:15.800 and Election Wire will be joining us.

00:02:17.440 I asked them if they would stop by tonight,

00:02:19.200 maybe give us a chance to ask them a few questions

00:02:20.820 about what's happening during the election

00:02:22.940 and what their predictions are, what it's looking like.

00:02:25.660 And so, wanna welcome them to the show.

00:02:27.760 Here we have Cabot Phillips and John Bickley.

00:02:29.920 It's John Bickley and team.

00:02:32.560 John Bickley and all.

00:02:34.480 Small team.

00:02:35.700 Yeah.

00:02:36.460 Hey, yeah, we're excited about election night

00:02:38.820 and the polling is fascinating.

00:02:41.180 The debates this week were kind of incredible.

00:02:44.200 We saw something last night we've never seen before

00:02:46.320 with this Fetterman debate.

00:02:47.940 It was stunning.

00:02:48.860 It was alarming in many ways.

00:02:50.620 But what we're seeing here is there's a red wave coming,

00:02:56.020 a red wave coming, might be a tsunami,

00:02:58.800 certainly in the House.

00:03:00.780 The question is the Senate.

00:03:02.680 And we've been tracking this in terms of the polling.

00:03:05.080 We've got some original polls,

00:03:06.820 some exclusive polls with Trafalgar Group

00:03:09.540 that have been very fascinating, very enlightening.

00:03:12.860 But we've also looked at some other polling.

00:03:14.600 The Harvard poll that came out a couple of weeks ago,

00:03:17.820 I think defines this election.

00:03:20.060 It summarizes it for people.

00:03:21.780 What is this election about?

00:03:24.020 It is an election about the misprioritization

00:03:27.960 of the Democratic Party with what the voters prioritize.

00:03:32.660 And if you look at this Harvard poll,

00:03:35.220 it asked voters, hey, what do you prioritize?

00:03:37.760 What are most important to you?

00:03:40.040 The top three, inflation, jobs, immigration.

00:03:44.880 Then it asked, what do the parties prioritize?

00:03:48.400 What do you think the parties prioritize?

00:03:51.120 And you have a perfect alignment of the Republican Party

00:03:53.780 with those priorities.

00:03:55.880 Immigration, inflation, jobs.

00:03:57.560 Democrats, the Democrats, there's not a single issue

00:04:00.520 within the top four of the prioritized issues.

00:04:06.740 January 6th is number one for Democrats.

00:04:09.320 January 6th, maybe dead last in the poll.

00:04:13.540 Abortion, that was number five,

00:04:15.820 still not in double digits for people in terms of priority.

00:04:18.960 And climate change, those were the top three for Democrats.

00:04:22.220 Democrats, the Democrats looking back on this election cycle

00:04:26.520 are going to say, we misprioritized.

00:04:30.280 And it's not even about, hey, do people like your answers?

00:04:34.040 Do you even care about the issues that voters care about

00:04:37.940 is the question here.

00:04:39.180 So that's something very fascinating.

00:04:40.600 We saw that last night in one of,

00:04:41.480 we were just talking before the shows,

00:04:42.720 in one of the debates, the question of crime came up

00:04:45.240 and the Democrat just blew off

00:04:47.160 even the importance of the question, Michael.

00:04:48.920 You had Lee Zeldin, this Republican who shockingly

00:04:52.600 is leading, at least according to some polls, in New York.

00:04:56.080 And I know, I mean, I've worked Republican campaigns

00:04:58.000 in New York.

00:04:58.660 There are a lot of Republicans and conservatives in New York

00:05:00.900 and they almost never really make it over the finish line,

00:05:04.680 especially at statewide races.

00:05:06.080 Zeldin's doing very well right now over Hochul

00:05:07.920 and he kept hammering crime.

00:05:10.120 And Zeldin has been almost the victim

00:05:12.180 of some pretty serious crimes recently.

00:05:13.920 And Hochul's response, of course, was,

00:05:16.240 Lee, why do you keep bringing this up?

00:05:18.700 Why is this so important to you?

00:05:19.940 Why do you care about putting people in jail?

00:05:22.300 And I just think if you're a New Yorker,

00:05:24.200 I don't care how blue you are,

00:05:26.420 you've got to listen to that and say,

00:05:27.660 man, this plane is no clue.

00:05:28.400 They're literally pushing people

00:05:28.580 in front of subway trains in New York City.

00:05:30.500 I mean, crime is a massive issue in New York.

00:05:33.340 And Hochul blew it off like it was nothing.

00:05:35.720 You saw this, by the way, across the board.

00:05:37.180 There's another debate that people

00:05:37.920 aren't paying attention to,

00:05:38.760 which was the Tudor Dixon-Gretchen Whitmer debate

00:05:40.620 over in Michigan.

00:05:41.980 And Whitmer was getting hammered

00:05:43.560 over and over and over again

00:05:44.420 by Tudor Dixon on her handling of COVID.

00:05:46.760 And this, to me,

00:05:47.440 has always been the elephant in the room.

00:05:49.060 People are still really ticked,

00:05:51.320 and they should be ticked,

00:05:52.100 about how they were handled

00:05:52.840 by their local government during COVID.

00:05:54.740 And the economy and inflation and jobs

00:05:56.960 and immigration,

00:05:57.800 a lot of this actually is still proxy

00:05:59.620 for the COVID policies

00:06:01.180 that locked everybody in their house

00:06:02.300 and the rage that people feel.

00:06:03.620 Yeah, and all the money that they printed

00:06:04.980 to try to cover it up.

00:06:05.760 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:06.360 The inflation is a result of that, exactly.

00:06:08.020 And so when Whitmer had no answers for that,

00:06:10.660 Tudor Dixon is now running

00:06:11.820 within spitting distance of Whitmer.

00:06:13.980 A month ago, Tudor Dixon was running

00:06:15.780 10 points behind, 12 points behind.

00:06:17.700 And now that's looking like

00:06:18.660 a two, three, four-point race.

00:06:20.080 And you have Cenk Uygur out in Los Angeles,

00:06:23.700 our old stomping grounds,

00:06:24.920 saying that he's going to vote

00:06:25.800 for the former Republican for governor.

00:06:28.060 For mayor.

00:06:29.120 I'm sorry, for mayor.

00:06:30.100 Over Karen Bass, who was theoretically

00:06:32.120 going to be the VP pick for Joe Biden.

00:06:33.820 She's one of the finalists for that VP slot.

00:06:35.820 This is an incredible hit on the press, too.

00:06:37.660 Now, the latest Gallup poll,

00:06:38.900 7% of people trust the press.

00:06:41.720 They invited, after that shooting

00:06:43.400 outside of Zeldin's house,

00:06:44.600 they invited him outside to talk.

00:06:46.600 The press said,

00:06:47.100 would you come outside and talk to us?

00:06:48.360 So he came outside and talked.

00:06:49.240 And the first question was,

00:06:50.100 why are you politicizing this incident?

00:06:53.320 You invited me out here, you know?

00:06:54.920 And the press just looks so clownish

00:06:57.860 trying to cover for these guys,

00:06:59.500 trying to cover for Fetterman,

00:07:00.540 who was falling apart.

00:07:01.840 It's a real blow to them.

00:07:03.820 And I think, like,

00:07:04.780 nobody's paying attention to John Durham

00:07:06.260 because he keeps losing

00:07:07.020 these stupid little cases he's bringing.

00:07:08.980 But he's destroyed the press in court

00:07:11.940 and just shown how dishonest they are.

00:07:13.980 And at this moment,

00:07:14.600 they look just awful.

00:07:15.360 There's a real worry, though,

00:07:16.540 especially watching the Fetterman debate,

00:07:18.040 obviously.

00:07:18.720 I actually didn't make jokes about it

00:07:20.780 on my show today

00:07:21.360 because the guy has brain damage.

00:07:22.400 It's almost impossible to make jokes.

00:07:24.620 When I'm on my show,

00:07:25.640 I went in wanting to make jokes.

00:07:26.880 Wait for my show.

00:07:27.760 I'll wait for your show.

00:07:28.800 I did make jokes.

00:07:30.060 I don't know.

00:07:30.400 I'm the worst.

00:07:31.100 Okay.

00:07:31.540 These talus monsters at the end of the...

00:07:33.680 I went in thinking I was going to make jokes.

00:07:35.540 And I watched two clips of him.

00:07:37.080 And then I watched three clips of him.

00:07:38.180 And then I watched four clips of him.

00:07:39.680 And suddenly it turned from

00:07:40.800 this is comic into

00:07:41.620 this is actually quite tragic.

00:07:42.960 But he's also...

00:07:43.660 My defense of making jokes

00:07:45.420 is that he has put himself...

00:07:46.920 Oh, 100%.

00:07:47.360 Just like with Biden,

00:07:47.900 he's put himself in this position

00:07:49.080 because of his thirst for power.

00:07:50.780 And as I also brought up,

00:07:52.640 that, you know,

00:07:52.860 he is responsible for that.

00:07:55.920 But it's also the Democrat Party

00:07:56.820 putting him there.

00:07:57.360 And his wife.

00:07:58.000 And his wife.

00:07:58.600 Exactly.

00:07:58.880 His wife.

00:07:59.480 I think Jill Biden and Fetterman's wife

00:08:02.140 are just failing in their responsibility to...

00:08:04.920 This is a unique aspect

00:08:06.220 of the American Democrat Party

00:08:08.060 that they genuinely...

00:08:09.920 And not just of recent vintage,

00:08:11.660 but for most of my life,

00:08:13.540 they've taken the position

00:08:14.520 that if you run someone

00:08:16.180 and they are actually

00:08:17.120 incapable of serving,

00:08:18.660 it is perfectly acceptable

00:08:19.920 just to give the job

00:08:21.120 to their spouse.

00:08:22.240 Right.

00:08:22.780 I genuinely don't understand that.

00:08:24.000 Do you know the guy

00:08:24.680 who won, I guess,

00:08:25.720 an Oscar or an Emmy

00:08:26.600 for that Don't Look Up,

00:08:27.940 the one about...

00:08:28.420 David Zerota.

00:08:28.980 Yes.

00:08:29.260 He actually sent out a tweet

00:08:30.540 saying, you know,

00:08:31.380 being a senator is not hard.

00:08:32.720 Right.

00:08:33.180 But, you know,

00:08:33.580 he can say yay or nay

00:08:35.440 just as well as

00:08:36.060 any of the other senators.

00:08:37.480 And he said,

00:08:38.200 he actually said,

00:08:39.040 it has nothing to do

00:08:39.900 with character.

00:08:40.560 It has to do with

00:08:41.240 just what they vote for.

00:08:42.600 I thought,

00:08:42.960 so voting for Donald Trump

00:08:44.220 is fine, right?

00:08:45.940 So on one hand,

00:08:46.980 on one hand,

00:08:47.420 we're told that

00:08:48.020 if we give the election

00:08:49.140 to Republicans,

00:08:49.820 it's the end of democracy

00:08:50.940 and the end of civilization.

00:08:52.360 But on the other hand,

00:08:53.300 police jobs don't even matter,

00:08:54.220 so give it to a brain damage.

00:08:55.000 I will say, though,

00:08:55.680 in his defense,

00:08:56.860 foreign policy is made

00:08:57.960 by the bureaucracy.

00:08:59.340 Most domestic policy

00:09:00.340 is made by the bureaucracy.

00:09:01.820 Frankly, I don't know,

00:09:02.600 even a man with brain damage

00:09:03.720 might be able to be a senator.

00:09:05.500 A lot of these guys

00:09:06.080 are making the case,

00:09:06.760 frankly, for direct democracy.

00:09:07.840 I mean,

00:09:07.960 if the basic idea

00:09:08.740 is that we don't even bother

00:09:09.620 electing people

00:09:10.220 to exercise independent judgment,

00:09:11.620 it's just a straight up vote,

00:09:12.660 then why don't we just

00:09:13.600 online poll everybody

00:09:14.820 and we can decide

00:09:15.520 what to do as a country?

00:09:16.740 I do want to ask

00:09:18.100 the election wire guys,

00:09:19.140 you know,

00:09:19.640 looking at the polls right now.

00:09:22.020 I've seen some ballpark figures

00:09:23.540 on the chances

00:09:24.100 that the Republicans

00:09:24.640 take the Senate.

00:09:25.280 You've seen Nate Silver,

00:09:25.960 for example,

00:09:26.480 say that he thinks

00:09:26.980 it's like a 50-50 toss-up,

00:09:28.560 but it seems like the momentum

00:09:29.360 is moving pretty strongly

00:09:30.360 in the direction

00:09:31.240 of the Republicans.

00:09:31.900 Can you give us

00:09:32.180 a quick rundown

00:09:33.220 on the closest Senate races

00:09:34.780 and what those look like right now?

00:09:36.060 Yeah, so Republicans

00:09:36.720 are coming in right now

00:09:37.860 knowing they're going to get

00:09:39.260 at least 48.

00:09:40.040 That's assuming you throw in

00:09:41.080 North Carolina and Ohio,

00:09:42.620 which got very close

00:09:43.820 over the summer.

00:09:44.440 They were clarified

00:09:44.920 as classified as toss-ups.

00:09:46.680 Republicans have pulled ahead there.

00:09:47.820 So they're coming in at 48.

00:09:49.920 Essentially,

00:09:50.480 of the last five

00:09:51.300 toss-up states,

00:09:52.660 Nevada, Arizona,

00:09:54.000 Wisconsin,

00:09:54.640 Pennsylvania, Georgia,

00:09:55.660 Republicans need to win

00:09:56.520 three of those five states

00:09:58.120 if they're going to get to 51.

00:09:59.760 And as you guys

00:10:00.320 have talked about,

00:10:00.920 as crime and the economy

00:10:02.140 are increasingly

00:10:03.260 on the minds of voters,

00:10:04.640 you see them coming up

00:10:05.380 the most in the debate,

00:10:06.620 as we've seen Dobbs

00:10:07.820 and that ruling

00:10:08.480 really fade over the summer,

00:10:09.940 more and more people

00:10:10.620 prioritizing crime

00:10:11.700 in the economy,

00:10:12.660 that's what's driving

00:10:13.520 this Republican,

00:10:14.660 you know,

00:10:14.880 optimism that we've seen

00:10:15.840 lately,

00:10:16.460 and now you're starting

00:10:17.060 to see the polls reflect that.

00:10:18.300 And all five of those states

00:10:19.460 now,

00:10:20.120 Republicans are either tied

00:10:21.240 in the lead

00:10:21.820 or within one or two points.

00:10:23.020 But Cabot,

00:10:23.480 is it too late?

00:10:24.800 I mean,

00:10:24.960 one of the tricks

00:10:25.500 that the Democrats

00:10:26.020 have pulled

00:10:26.640 over the last couple

00:10:27.800 of election cycles

00:10:28.560 is pushing off

00:10:30.900 things like debates

00:10:31.860 where the voters

00:10:32.400 get to actually hear

00:10:33.020 from candidates

00:10:33.600 until well after

00:10:35.000 voting actually begins.

00:10:36.600 I mean,

00:10:36.740 we've essentially destroyed

00:10:37.880 even the concept

00:10:38.520 of an election day.

00:10:39.980 Have too many people

00:10:41.000 voted for the tightening

00:10:41.920 polls to play?

00:10:42.580 You've had voting

00:10:43.960 in Pennsylvania

00:10:44.440 since September.

00:10:45.720 500,000 people at least

00:10:47.420 in Pennsylvania

00:10:48.080 have already voted.

00:10:49.340 The good news is,

00:10:50.080 though,

00:10:50.160 if you look at some

00:10:51.620 of the early voting totals,

00:10:53.040 Republicans are well ahead

00:10:54.520 where they were in 2020.

00:10:56.300 Even in Georgia,

00:10:57.100 well ahead where they were

00:10:57.920 in 2021.

00:10:59.160 So there's been

00:10:59.980 a huge uptick

00:11:01.020 in the number of people

00:11:01.680 voting early.

00:11:02.360 A lot of that's because

00:11:02.940 of after COVID,

00:11:03.940 a lot of people voted

00:11:05.000 for the first time remote.

00:11:05.880 They said,

00:11:06.180 oh, I kind of like this.

00:11:06.860 Let's keep doing that.

00:11:07.760 But you've got to think

00:11:08.320 a lot of that has to do

00:11:09.420 with people being fired up

00:11:10.740 to vote.

00:11:11.420 And Republicans in Georgia

00:11:12.380 for example,

00:11:13.300 they're making up

00:11:13.880 a much higher portion

00:11:15.100 of the early vote

00:11:16.200 than they were in 2021.

00:11:17.700 So it might be too late.

00:11:20.040 You know,

00:11:20.280 it remains to be seen.

00:11:21.160 But Republicans

00:11:22.020 shouldn't be too discouraged

00:11:23.240 if they see a lot of these

00:11:24.240 early voting numbers

00:11:25.240 coming in.

00:11:25.800 Will Stacey Abrams

00:11:26.820 be able to hang on

00:11:27.680 to her?

00:11:28.360 Interesting point

00:11:31.240 brought up by

00:11:31.740 Robert Cahaly

00:11:32.500 from Trafalgar.

00:11:33.980 He said he thinks

00:11:34.780 a lot of Republicans

00:11:35.700 are voting early

00:11:36.600 because of suspicions

00:11:38.220 about how votes

00:11:39.940 are cast and counted.

00:11:41.320 Yeah,

00:11:41.480 I'm more worried

00:11:41.940 about the votes

00:11:42.580 that come in at 2 a.m.

00:11:43.440 after they shut down the...

00:11:44.780 That could backfire.

00:11:46.160 That entire strategy

00:11:46.960 could backfire

00:11:47.580 on Democrats

00:11:48.120 in this election cycle.

00:11:49.960 I think a lot of Republicans

00:11:50.900 are also thinking

00:11:51.540 like I'm thinking,

00:11:52.260 well,

00:11:52.520 I don't know what election day

00:11:53.300 is going to bring.

00:11:53.760 Am I going to be busy

00:11:54.300 or whatever?

00:11:54.620 I went and voted

00:11:55.440 two days ago

00:11:56.320 because it's like,

00:11:56.900 I want to make sure

00:11:57.300 that I'm not busy.

00:11:57.960 I mean,

00:11:58.060 I'm going to be here,

00:11:58.720 right?

00:11:58.860 We're going to be covering

00:11:59.440 this stuff.

00:11:59.920 So I actually went

00:12:00.400 and voted with my wife.

00:12:01.180 We got our votes in

00:12:01.880 as fast as we possibly could.

00:12:03.640 One of the things

00:12:04.080 that's really fascinating

00:12:05.040 is the kind of clarification.

00:12:07.220 This is pretty typical.

00:12:08.720 As you get closer

00:12:09.460 to the election,

00:12:10.320 the mind really begins

00:12:10.980 to clarify

00:12:11.380 about two,

00:12:11.860 three weeks out

00:12:12.260 from the election.

00:12:12.780 You start to see

00:12:13.120 the polls really start

00:12:14.180 to tighten.

00:12:14.540 This happens nearly

00:12:15.160 every election cycle.

00:12:16.780 And in this one,

00:12:17.720 you've really seen

00:12:18.440 that happen in a major way

00:12:19.360 and all of the trends

00:12:20.200 are moving in one direction.

00:12:21.340 This is why people

00:12:21.780 are talking about a wave.

00:12:22.500 A wave only moves

00:12:23.000 in one direction.

00:12:23.980 So if you look

00:12:24.440 at these races,

00:12:25.120 there are a bunch of races

00:12:25.720 that seem like

00:12:26.260 they were out of reach

00:12:26.960 and they're no longer

00:12:27.980 out of reach.

00:12:29.300 And some of these races,

00:12:30.280 which frankly,

00:12:31.200 Republicans should probably

00:12:32.100 lose given the candidate quality.

00:12:33.200 And here I'm mentioning

00:12:34.420 Herschel Walker,

00:12:35.560 whose large segments

00:12:36.800 of whose voter base

00:12:37.500 might be his children.

00:12:40.520 Herschel Walker

00:12:41.200 could easily be dragged

00:12:42.720 across the finish line

00:12:43.520 by not only the fact

00:12:44.240 that Raphael Warnock is a nut,

00:12:45.560 but also by the fact

00:12:46.260 that Brian Kemp

00:12:46.700 is dramatically outrunning

00:12:47.940 Herschel Walker

00:12:48.440 and Stacey Abrams.

00:12:49.360 Remember,

00:12:49.660 Stacey Abrams was supposed

00:12:50.580 to be the president

00:12:51.480 of the universe,

00:12:52.400 according to Star Trek.

00:12:54.240 And Stacey Abrams

00:12:55.040 is getting crushed

00:12:55.680 by Brian Kemp.

00:12:56.400 Brian Kemp is up

00:12:56.980 somewhere between

00:12:57.300 six and ten points.

00:12:58.440 You want to see

00:12:59.080 the red movement

00:12:59.700 in this country.

00:13:01.000 Florida is an amazing example.

00:13:02.640 Ron DeSantis,

00:13:03.100 won his seat in 2018,

00:13:04.580 the gubernatorial seat.

00:13:05.420 He won that by 30,000 votes

00:13:06.700 over a meth addict

00:13:07.960 who was caught

00:13:08.760 with a gay prostitute

00:13:09.860 in his hotel

00:13:10.580 about six months later

00:13:11.420 and now is under indictment

00:13:12.400 by the DOJ.

00:13:13.300 He won that race

00:13:13.820 by 30,000 votes.

00:13:14.660 He's currently up

00:13:15.200 in the polls,

00:13:15.820 11 points in the average.

00:13:17.360 It's not in one poll,

00:13:17.960 it's in the average.

00:13:18.580 There's a poll

00:13:18.860 that had him up 14 today.

00:13:20.420 So Ron DeSantis

00:13:21.140 is running away with that.

00:13:21.940 Marco Rubio

00:13:22.460 is supposed to run

00:13:22.940 in a competitive race

00:13:23.620 with Val Demings.

00:13:24.280 He's up six points

00:13:25.140 in that particular race.

00:13:26.620 When you look

00:13:27.160 across the board,

00:13:28.600 a lot of these races,

00:13:29.400 Warnock was in the summer,

00:13:30.800 he had somewhere between

00:13:31.820 a four and a six point lead

00:13:32.980 over Walker.

00:13:34.520 That is now a dead heat.

00:13:35.780 You look at Oz and Fetterman.

00:13:37.260 Fetterman, six months ago,

00:13:38.760 had like a 10 point lead

00:13:40.100 on Oz and now

00:13:41.240 the polls are showing Oz

00:13:42.360 either dead even or ahead.

00:13:44.520 Blake Masters

00:13:45.100 is an amazing example

00:13:46.000 of this, right?

00:13:46.440 Blake Masters

00:13:46.880 is running six points

00:13:47.640 behind Mark Kelly.

00:13:48.640 Suddenly Blake Masters

00:13:49.520 is running absolutely

00:13:50.520 within margin of error

00:13:51.420 in Arizona

00:13:51.880 and Carrie Lake,

00:13:52.900 who Democrats made

00:13:53.680 an enormous mistake

00:13:54.520 because they backed

00:13:55.100 Carrie Lake thinking

00:13:55.840 that if they backed

00:13:56.440 an election denier,

00:13:57.360 then suddenly she was going

00:13:58.580 to lose the main election.

00:13:59.500 The problem is that

00:14:00.060 she's amazing on TV.

00:14:01.320 She's done a great job.

00:14:02.240 She's terrifically charismatic.

00:14:03.620 And she could easily drag

00:14:05.140 Blake Masters

00:14:05.540 over the finish line

00:14:06.020 and then they're

00:14:06.640 the unsung heroes, right?

00:14:07.640 Adam Laxalt,

00:14:08.360 people are now taking

00:14:08.960 his seat for granted.

00:14:09.680 That's in Nevada.

00:14:10.360 By the way,

00:14:10.840 Nevada's going to go Republican.

00:14:11.900 It's going to have

00:14:12.220 a Republican governor.

00:14:12.820 It's going to have

00:14:13.080 a Republican senator.

00:14:13.960 Ron Johnson,

00:14:14.520 he was expected

00:14:15.000 to lose that seat.

00:14:15.800 He's going to win that seat

00:14:16.660 walking away in Wisconsin.

00:14:18.980 So now they're talking

00:14:19.940 maybe Don Balduck

00:14:20.840 is competitive

00:14:21.500 against Maggie Hassan

00:14:23.580 in New Hampshire.

00:14:24.320 That race was supposed

00:14:24.980 to be over.

00:14:25.560 So when you see

00:14:26.320 all the trends

00:14:27.300 moving in one direction,

00:14:28.640 it means you're going

00:14:29.200 to start to see

00:14:29.700 some weird people winning.

00:14:31.480 And so what I'd be

00:14:32.780 interested in actually

00:14:33.440 from both the

00:14:34.260 Election Wire guys

00:14:34.820 and you guys,

00:14:35.520 do you have any sleeper picks?

00:14:36.380 So my sleeper pick

00:14:36.980 is Zeldin over Hochul.

00:14:38.060 I think Zeldin...

00:14:38.960 Really?

00:14:39.300 I think Zeldin's

00:14:39.760 going to win that race.

00:14:40.540 The reason I think

00:14:41.480 that Zeldin's going

00:14:41.980 to win that race

00:14:42.440 is because you look

00:14:43.840 at New Jersey

00:14:45.160 in the last election cycle

00:14:46.960 where Phil Murphy

00:14:47.660 won his last race

00:14:48.380 by 13 points

00:14:49.180 and suddenly

00:14:50.500 she had a rally.

00:14:51.520 Nobody even knows

00:14:52.100 how to pronounce his name.

00:14:53.160 He comes within a whisker

00:14:54.320 of almost beating

00:14:55.240 Phil Murphy in that race.

00:14:56.520 Who in New York

00:14:57.060 is enthused

00:14:57.640 to go vote

00:14:58.080 for Kathy Hochul?

00:14:59.080 Who?

00:14:59.360 I mean,

00:14:59.540 nobody even knows

00:15:00.000 who she is.

00:15:00.480 No one ever has voted for her.

00:15:01.600 That's exactly right.

00:15:03.700 She's run out of spots

00:15:04.680 where she can inherit them

00:15:05.480 because somebody

00:15:05.840 can't keep their pants zipped.

00:15:06.900 Like, there's literally

00:15:07.400 no one...

00:15:08.120 Until now,

00:15:09.000 it was like,

00:15:09.440 she was in Congress

00:15:10.560 and now she needs

00:15:11.340 to elevate.

00:15:11.840 So whoever is above her

00:15:12.780 has to...

00:15:13.180 She has to gain that seat

00:15:13.880 because the guy

00:15:14.340 can't keep his pants zipped

00:15:15.180 or he gets involved

00:15:15.700 in a corruption scandal.

00:15:16.560 Same thing with the governorship.

00:15:17.780 Well, now there's no place

00:15:18.720 to fail upward to.

00:15:20.140 So, you know,

00:15:20.980 I think Zeldin

00:15:21.960 is going to outperform

00:15:23.160 in that race.

00:15:24.080 She just has nothing

00:15:24.980 at all to offer

00:15:25.940 the voters.

00:15:26.920 This is, I think,

00:15:27.580 the problem for Democrats

00:15:28.340 in general

00:15:28.760 is that they only have

00:15:30.000 ideology to run on.

00:15:31.740 They run entirely

00:15:32.440 on ideology,

00:15:33.000 but most Americans

00:15:34.460 are not ideological.

00:15:36.300 It's...

00:15:36.860 People always talk about

00:15:37.880 what's the kitchen table issue,

00:15:39.340 but really it's

00:15:39.900 what are the things

00:15:40.780 people think about

00:15:41.320 when they first wake up

00:15:42.020 in the morning?

00:15:42.820 And you see there

00:15:43.460 in that poll there,

00:15:44.160 it's like people think about,

00:15:45.120 you know,

00:15:45.760 how they're going to feed

00:15:46.320 their kids.

00:15:46.820 They think about,

00:15:47.320 am I safe

00:15:47.800 or is my family safe?

00:15:49.460 Whereas for Democrats,

00:15:50.500 you know,

00:15:50.880 it is abortion.

00:15:51.680 It's January 6th.

00:15:52.620 And this is the big argument

00:15:53.520 that they're selling

00:15:54.200 in the New York Times

00:15:55.180 is what's wrong

00:15:55.960 with you people?

00:15:56.460 You should be voting

00:15:57.000 on principle

00:15:57.500 instead of filthy lucre.

00:15:59.880 Yeah, oh, it's hilarious.

00:16:00.700 Matthew Downs,

00:16:00.840 who was the greatest,

00:16:01.500 he said,

00:16:03.280 he said,

00:16:04.080 you know,

00:16:05.120 people worried

00:16:05.720 about inflation

00:16:06.200 is how Hitler

00:16:06.680 came to power.

00:16:09.560 If you don't want

00:16:10.280 to be poor,

00:16:11.000 you're basically a Nazi.

00:16:12.060 Hitler coming in

00:16:12.820 off the top rope

00:16:13.520 in that particular tweet,

00:16:14.580 I mean, my goodness,

00:16:15.200 you didn't see that one coming.

00:16:16.160 I came into your office

00:16:17.120 looking for a job

00:16:18.060 and he said,

00:16:18.480 yeah, I'm going to bankrupt

00:16:19.160 your company

00:16:19.700 and destroy all your people,

00:16:20.840 but I believe in abortion.

00:16:23.380 You know,

00:16:23.920 I've got to sleep a race.

00:16:25.680 And it's also New York.

00:16:27.000 I think New York 17,

00:16:28.580 there is a very good chance

00:16:29.860 that Sean Patrick Maloney

00:16:31.340 loses to Mike Lawler.

00:16:32.560 I agree.

00:16:33.020 That happens to be

00:16:33.980 my old district.

00:16:35.120 It's redistricting,

00:16:35.820 change the numbers.

00:16:36.820 I was on the race

00:16:38.040 where Maloney won

00:16:39.480 for the first time.

00:16:40.580 He's a very good candidate.

00:16:42.060 That's why,

00:16:42.460 he was a Clinton guy.

00:16:43.360 That's why he became

00:16:43.900 the head of DCCC.

00:16:45.120 I think he's weak there

00:16:46.140 right now.

00:16:46.840 I think Lawler's run

00:16:47.560 a good campaign.

00:16:48.540 The Republicans are obviously

00:16:49.460 doing very well

00:16:50.100 in New York right now.

00:16:51.220 If Maloney loses,

00:16:52.760 I believe he would be

00:16:53.820 the first head

00:16:55.200 of the DCCC,

00:16:56.400 which is the Democrat

00:16:57.080 Congressional Campaign Committee,

00:16:58.400 to lose his seat

00:16:59.700 while he is running

00:17:00.720 the organization.

00:17:01.000 Cabot, is it possible?

00:17:02.380 It's absolutely possible.

00:17:03.560 And it's interesting also

00:17:04.620 when you look at

00:17:05.240 the DCCC, Michael,

00:17:06.300 as you bring up,

00:17:07.180 one of the best,

00:17:08.260 you know,

00:17:08.800 kind of full circle moments

00:17:09.760 that we've seen this cycle

00:17:10.660 came from them.

00:17:11.460 They sent an internal memo

00:17:12.580 to all of their House candidates

00:17:14.140 around the country.

00:17:15.180 And they said,

00:17:16.000 in 2020,

00:17:16.760 defund the police

00:17:17.440 absolutely killed us.

00:17:18.840 We have to run away from that.

00:17:20.540 Find a former sheriff,

00:17:22.120 find a current police officer,

00:17:23.560 get someone in law enforcement

00:17:24.840 to cut an ad for you

00:17:26.260 saying that you support

00:17:27.360 law enforcement.

00:17:27.880 That's an internal memo

00:17:28.960 they sent.

00:17:29.800 As far as other sleeper races

00:17:31.120 go, though,

00:17:31.640 I'm looking out at Oregon.

00:17:33.240 They have not had

00:17:33.920 a Republican governor

00:17:34.840 in 40 years.

00:17:35.760 That's the longest drought

00:17:36.620 of any state

00:17:37.300 in the entire country.

00:17:38.560 Two things right now

00:17:39.440 seem to show

00:17:40.120 that a Republican's

00:17:40.680 going to win.

00:17:41.020 First off,

00:17:41.780 the current Democrat

00:17:42.580 outgoing governor,

00:17:43.500 Kate Brown,

00:17:44.240 is the least popular

00:17:45.160 governor in the entire

00:17:46.200 country in polling.

00:17:47.460 Her protege

00:17:48.200 is the Democrat nominee,

00:17:49.900 Tina Kotek.

00:17:50.580 She's hugely unpopular

00:17:51.720 in the state right now,

00:17:52.400 but she's the nominee.

00:17:53.560 Also, there are three

00:17:54.360 major candidates

00:17:55.240 on the ballot.

00:17:56.060 Betsy Johnson

00:17:56.700 is running as an independent.

00:17:58.260 She's a lifelong Democrat

00:17:59.420 with a huge name recognition

00:18:01.120 in the state.

00:18:01.600 She's pulling 10 to 20%

00:18:02.920 of the vote

00:18:03.360 away from the Democrats.

00:18:04.640 And then you've got

00:18:05.040 the Republican,

00:18:05.740 Christine Drazen.

00:18:06.880 She's in the low 40s,

00:18:07.860 high 30s,

00:18:08.820 but that's enough

00:18:09.420 to win this race

00:18:10.140 because there are

00:18:10.640 three serious candidates.

00:18:11.640 Oregon could have

00:18:12.620 a Republican governor

00:18:13.340 one other interesting

00:18:14.120 note there.

00:18:14.720 Phil Knight,

00:18:15.200 the founder of Nike,

00:18:16.300 famously hates Kate Brown,

00:18:17.620 the current governor.

00:18:18.600 He has donated now

00:18:19.360 $3 million

00:18:20.080 to the Republican

00:18:21.020 Christine Drazen

00:18:21.840 because he wants

00:18:22.800 the Democrats

00:18:23.260 out of power

00:18:23.960 in Oregon

00:18:24.860 where he has

00:18:25.440 the Nike headquarters.

00:18:25.940 And then there's Michigan.

00:18:28.220 Michigan was not in play.

00:18:29.700 It is now in play.

00:18:31.180 Tudor Dixon within three.

00:18:32.500 I think Ben

00:18:32.920 maybe mentioned this.

00:18:34.480 Gretchen Whitmer

00:18:35.120 was ahead by 17,

00:18:36.840 18 points

00:18:37.620 just two months ago.

00:18:39.360 That race is within

00:18:40.200 three and a lot of polls.

00:18:41.900 That's a shock.

00:18:42.320 No one deserves

00:18:42.600 to lose more

00:18:43.300 than Gretchen Whitmer.

00:18:43.880 No.

00:18:44.800 And this is interesting.

00:18:46.140 You've been talking

00:18:46.960 to voters on the street.

00:18:48.660 Right.

00:18:48.960 Tell us what they're thinking.

00:18:51.500 This has been

00:18:52.160 really enlightening.

00:18:53.100 And again,

00:18:53.560 we talk about,

00:18:54.560 you know,

00:18:54.820 the polls.

00:18:55.620 We listen to other pundits.

00:18:58.400 The people on the street

00:18:59.280 is all that matters.

00:19:01.460 They consistently,

00:19:02.720 again,

00:19:03.200 the pattern is amazing.

00:19:04.960 What are your priorities?

00:19:06.100 That's what we ask them.

00:19:06.960 What do you care about most?

00:19:08.120 What do you think's going

00:19:09.120 wrong in this country?

00:19:10.740 And it's crime.

00:19:12.360 And it's the economy.

00:19:13.620 The economy of the economy.

00:19:14.820 The economy.

00:19:15.820 Inflation.

00:19:16.340 All the different iterations

00:19:17.240 of the economy.

00:19:18.100 Answer you can imagine.

00:19:20.640 Almost none of them

00:19:21.640 responded with abortion.

00:19:23.460 That's the number one issue.

00:19:25.120 And you've looked

00:19:25.620 into those numbers.

00:19:26.420 Democrats are sinking in

00:19:27.900 tens of millions

00:19:29.580 into the abortion messaging.

00:19:32.180 Almost none of them

00:19:32.880 have responded that way.

00:19:34.120 It is the economy.

00:19:35.440 It is crime.

00:19:36.320 It is immigration.

00:19:37.760 We consistently hear that.

00:19:39.320 We actually have

00:19:39.980 a little reel for you guys

00:19:41.020 if you want to listen

00:19:41.980 to some people

00:19:42.660 from the street

00:19:43.500 that we talk to

00:19:44.240 from all over the country.

00:19:46.080 Let's tee it up.

00:19:46.880 I think fentanyl is number one

00:19:50.540 for me, obviously.

00:19:51.640 It's the economy

00:19:52.300 and then crime.

00:19:53.700 So I live in Philadelphia.

00:19:55.020 Crime is very important.

00:19:56.120 So I'll rank crime number one.

00:19:58.040 Women's issues number two.

00:19:59.440 Inflation number three.

00:20:00.700 No doubt.

00:20:01.400 The border.

00:20:02.400 The electrical cars.

00:20:04.160 They're pissing me off.

00:20:05.440 And also inflation as well.

00:20:07.220 I mean, I'm not made out of money.

00:20:08.440 I don't think anybody is.

00:20:09.900 Securing the border.

00:20:10.880 So drugs and anything else

00:20:14.460 that's coming across

00:20:15.340 that's not legal

00:20:16.200 doesn't come across.

00:20:17.900 There's not enough

00:20:18.860 battery technology

00:20:20.160 to cover that many

00:20:22.280 electrical cars.

00:20:24.040 You can't do away

00:20:25.080 with gas cars.

00:20:26.040 You can't.

00:20:26.700 Everything is through the roof.

00:20:28.180 The economy,

00:20:29.160 the border,

00:20:30.220 and getting

00:20:31.080 the Bidens locked up.

00:20:33.840 Okay.

00:20:35.500 Forgot to mention

00:20:36.260 the Bidens getting locked up.

00:20:37.500 But those are people,

00:20:38.500 again,

00:20:38.720 those are people

00:20:39.120 from all over the country.

00:20:40.520 That's not just people

00:20:41.220 from Nashville.

00:20:42.400 It's people from

00:20:42.940 all over the place.

00:20:44.660 You hear really

00:20:45.720 consistent themes there.

00:20:47.380 John and Cabot,

00:20:47.940 thank you guys

00:20:48.500 for the work you're doing

00:20:49.220 over at Election Wire.

00:20:50.020 And we look forward

00:20:50.580 to seeing you here

00:20:51.660 with us again

00:20:52.360 on election night.

00:20:54.160 We do too.

00:20:54.700 Thanks.

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00:22:28.540 Matt, that was...

00:22:29.580 Wow.

00:22:30.040 Yeah.

00:22:30.340 So enthusiastic.

00:22:30.860 Like butter.

00:22:31.880 I did tell them

00:22:33.100 that I don't think

00:22:33.640 I should be doing

00:22:34.020 any of the ads,

00:22:34.540 but they forced me

00:22:35.120 to do it, so...

00:22:36.360 I'm going to give you

00:22:37.140 the opportunity

00:22:37.600 to redeem yourself

00:22:38.460 since we obviously

00:22:39.040 just lost an ad sponsor.

00:22:42.380 And that's by talking

00:22:43.560 about the unbelievable

00:22:44.940 event that you hosted

00:22:46.420 here in Nashville

00:22:47.200 last week

00:22:48.500 to end child mutilation.

00:22:51.020 I think everybody

00:22:51.840 out there knows

00:22:52.500 that you've been

00:22:53.040 the leader in this battle

00:22:54.900 over the last several months.

00:22:56.720 The work that you've done

00:22:57.620 in exposing Vanderbilt Hospital

00:22:59.400 here locally

00:23:00.280 the work that you've done

00:23:01.600 in trying to organize

00:23:02.520 legal opposition to that

00:23:04.200 in the state legislature

00:23:06.180 and governor's office,

00:23:07.220 I think that it's

00:23:08.140 really heroic work.

00:23:09.540 But this event

00:23:10.880 is something unique.

00:23:11.920 We've never,

00:23:12.700 as a company,

00:23:13.640 been a part of anything

00:23:14.500 quite like it.

00:23:15.820 And, you know,

00:23:16.400 I happened to be

00:23:17.160 out of the state

00:23:17.660 at the time

00:23:18.080 and wasn't able to be there.

00:23:19.020 I just, I really wanted

00:23:19.800 to hear from you

00:23:20.200 what was the experience

00:23:21.700 like of assembling,

00:23:23.100 you know,

00:23:23.720 three, maybe 3,000 people

00:23:25.300 and speaking to them

00:23:28.540 about what I think

00:23:29.120 is one of the most

00:23:29.560 important issues

00:23:30.060 of our time.

00:23:31.300 Yeah, I haven't been

00:23:31.900 a part of anything

00:23:32.360 like that either.

00:23:33.080 I don't think anyone has

00:23:33.840 because there's,

00:23:34.460 you know,

00:23:34.640 there have been

00:23:35.460 sort of disjointed efforts

00:23:38.020 across the country

00:23:38.600 by people to organize rallies,

00:23:39.800 but there hasn't been

00:23:40.300 anything quite to this

00:23:40.980 size or scale.

00:23:42.520 And so going into it,

00:23:44.200 I know I was certainly

00:23:45.260 nervous

00:23:46.000 because it's a gamble.

00:23:49.460 There's a risk

00:23:49.960 that if you're,

00:23:51.180 you know,

00:23:51.720 if you're kind of,

00:23:52.360 if you're planting your flag

00:23:53.500 and saying and calling

00:23:54.300 your shot and saying

00:23:55.200 we're going to have

00:23:55.860 a big rally

00:23:56.420 and we're going to speak out

00:23:57.200 and then only 300 people

00:23:58.180 show up,

00:23:58.760 then it tells,

00:24:00.520 you know,

00:24:00.680 it sends exactly

00:24:01.380 the opposite message

00:24:02.160 of what you want to send.

00:24:03.120 And we are working

00:24:04.000 at a disadvantage

00:24:04.700 as conservatives

00:24:05.980 because first of all,

00:24:07.760 we don't have any

00:24:08.300 of the institutions

00:24:08.780 on our side.

00:24:09.480 The media is not

00:24:10.020 going to advertise for us.

00:24:11.380 But then also

00:24:12.400 conservatives in general

00:24:14.760 just aren't as eager

00:24:17.460 to get involved

00:24:18.220 in activism.

00:24:18.840 They don't know

00:24:19.140 how to do it

00:24:19.980 quite as much.

00:24:20.720 It's not,

00:24:21.060 it's just not,

00:24:21.580 they don't have

00:24:21.920 the systems in place

00:24:23.600 and they don't want

00:24:24.380 to risk their reputations

00:24:26.020 and their jobs.

00:24:26.940 I mean,

00:24:27.040 there are consequences.

00:24:27.840 And they have jobs

00:24:28.580 to begin with.

00:24:30.180 So there's,

00:24:30.880 there's all of those things

00:24:32.360 you're worried about.

00:24:33.220 And so that was my concern

00:24:34.420 going in.

00:24:34.920 I thought we would get

00:24:35.540 a good turnout.

00:24:36.020 I was hoping for a thousand

00:24:36.880 and show up there

00:24:38.780 on the day of

00:24:39.500 and we had police estimate.

00:24:41.920 Well,

00:24:42.080 if you listen to the media,

00:24:42.920 we had hundreds

00:24:43.500 that showed up,

00:24:44.560 but the police estimate

00:24:45.600 that we had about 3,000

00:24:47.140 that showed up.

00:24:48.260 So it exceeded

00:24:49.020 my expectations

00:24:49.840 and it was just,

00:24:51.620 the crowd out there

00:24:52.700 was,

00:24:54.100 they were,

00:24:54.860 they were very passionate.

00:24:58.680 It was a,

00:24:59.420 we hear about diversity

00:25:00.500 from the left.

00:25:01.080 It was a very diverse crowd

00:25:02.280 of, you know,

00:25:02.880 it's hard to peg well.

00:25:04.220 It was,

00:25:04.800 was it a younger crowd

00:25:06.220 or an older crowd?

00:25:06.780 I think it was just

00:25:07.420 a wide variety of people.

00:25:09.580 Most of them were local,

00:25:10.740 just people in Nashville

00:25:11.540 or in Tennessee

00:25:12.140 that came out.

00:25:14.340 And,

00:25:14.760 and of course,

00:25:15.580 the,

00:25:15.840 the left showed up too

00:25:17.120 and it was,

00:25:18.440 it was kind of interesting

00:25:19.120 because I've,

00:25:19.440 I've been to other rallies

00:25:20.380 before I've done,

00:25:21.120 I've been to plenty of them

00:25:22.100 and in my experience

00:25:23.320 at rallies and marches

00:25:24.580 and that sort of thing,

00:25:25.860 there is a,

00:25:26.600 there's a section

00:25:27.580 that they say,

00:25:29.500 well,

00:25:29.580 if you're a counter protester,

00:25:30.460 you go here.

00:25:31.280 And then if the,

00:25:32.040 if you're a part of the,

00:25:32.680 the actual event,

00:25:33.600 this is where you go.

00:25:34.600 But at this event,

00:25:35.520 they,

00:25:36.260 for whatever reason,

00:25:36.860 they were allowed to just,

00:25:38.020 you know,

00:25:38.160 it's on government property.

00:25:39.180 So first amendment.

00:25:40.080 So they were allowed

00:25:40.680 to come into the crowd

00:25:41.560 and,

00:25:41.840 and,

00:25:42.080 and,

00:25:42.340 you know,

00:25:42.600 the counter protesters,

00:25:43.180 they came right up

00:25:43.720 to the front.

00:25:44.240 They had bullhorns

00:25:45.260 and sirens and everything.

00:25:47.080 But it didn't matter.

00:25:49.860 It didn't,

00:25:50.320 it didn't derail

00:25:51.160 any of the speeches.

00:25:51.920 And I think in the end

00:25:52.540 it actually helped us

00:25:53.420 because,

00:25:54.080 I mean,

00:25:54.160 they were outnumbered

00:25:54.800 20 to one,

00:25:55.500 but,

00:25:55.840 but also it,

00:25:57.140 it just showed

00:25:58.160 this incredible contrast

00:25:59.400 between these kind of

00:26:01.480 normal everyday Americans

00:26:03.460 who are concerned

00:26:04.100 about protecting children

00:26:05.060 versus these crazies

00:26:07.160 with these vulgar,

00:26:08.460 disgusting signs

00:26:09.320 screaming into,

00:26:10.760 you know,

00:26:11.340 screaming incoherently

00:26:12.520 into a megaphone.

00:26:13.380 I think it was

00:26:13.720 a really helpful.

00:26:14.780 Oh,

00:26:14.920 I saw the video clip

00:26:16.340 of the counter protester

00:26:18.580 with the bullhorn

00:26:19.920 literally screaming

00:26:21.340 in a woman's face.

00:26:22.440 Like,

00:26:23.200 yeah,

00:26:23.600 it's not,

00:26:24.400 I don't think

00:26:24.640 it's an exaggeration

00:26:25.300 to say it could have

00:26:25.760 done damage

00:26:26.280 to this woman's hearing.

00:26:27.580 What are you trying

00:26:28.260 to prove at that point?

00:26:29.840 Right.

00:26:30.060 And she,

00:26:30.460 and,

00:26:30.640 and the woman,

00:26:31.420 you know,

00:26:31.800 she,

00:26:32.000 she just stood there.

00:26:33.280 She wasn't rattled by it.

00:26:34.480 That was the theme of it.

00:26:35.640 The other thing

00:26:35.920 that I was worried about

00:26:36.620 when I showed up

00:26:37.320 and I was happy

00:26:38.400 about the crowd,

00:26:39.020 but the other thing

00:26:39.360 I'm worried about

00:26:39.820 is that,

00:26:40.120 you know,

00:26:40.260 a lot of our speakers,

00:26:41.440 you know,

00:26:41.980 Chloe Cole is a detransitioner.

00:26:43.820 She's 18 years old.

00:26:46.220 Not a professional

00:26:47.600 public speaker.

00:26:48.680 Right.

00:26:49.140 And so my concern is,

00:26:50.700 well,

00:26:50.760 going up in front

00:26:51.380 of this crowd

00:26:52.260 with people screaming

00:26:53.240 in your face,

00:26:54.500 are you going to be able

00:26:55.540 to handle that?

00:26:56.780 But she did,

00:26:57.240 all of our speakers

00:26:57.820 did a phenomenal job.

00:26:59.580 You also didn't only have

00:27:00.940 conservatives

00:27:01.500 and Republicans.

00:27:02.520 As I saw,

00:27:03.540 I was also overseas,

00:27:04.700 but I saw the pictures

00:27:05.680 and video.

00:27:06.540 You had a Democratic

00:27:08.200 presidential candidate

00:27:09.280 who showed up.

00:27:10.880 Did we?

00:27:11.500 I think you did.

00:27:13.240 Tulsi Gabbard.

00:27:14.140 Oh,

00:27:14.500 Tulsi Gabbard.

00:27:15.100 Yeah,

00:27:15.240 former Democrat.

00:27:16.400 Former Democrat.

00:27:16.900 Former president.

00:27:18.260 Well,

00:27:18.440 former Democrat,

00:27:19.140 but at the time she ran.

00:27:20.360 Now she's independent,

00:27:21.580 but she,

00:27:22.020 yeah,

00:27:22.160 Tulsi Gabbard

00:27:22.760 came and gave a great speech.

00:27:25.600 Of course,

00:27:26.160 Senator Marsha Blackburn,

00:27:27.260 we had our state legislators.

00:27:29.660 And the other thing

00:27:30.420 we wanted to accomplish,

00:27:31.200 of course,

00:27:31.400 with the rally

00:27:31.900 was we want to send

00:27:32.900 a message to the country

00:27:34.740 that this is a movement

00:27:35.660 and that people care about this.

00:27:36.880 But the other practical concern

00:27:38.480 is to send a message

00:27:39.280 to our state lawmakers

00:27:40.560 that you have to follow through

00:27:42.380 on getting this law passed

00:27:43.320 because the people in the state

00:27:44.340 care about this.

00:27:45.160 Yeah.

00:27:45.400 And the message,

00:27:46.440 I talked to the lawmakers

00:27:47.720 after the fact

00:27:48.400 and before,

00:27:49.300 and they were just blown away

00:27:51.280 by the crowd.

00:27:51.740 They hadn't seen anything

00:27:52.220 like it before.

00:27:52.820 So I think it achieved

00:27:54.260 exactly what we,

00:27:55.080 well,

00:27:55.220 I haven't spoken to you

00:27:56.000 about this,

00:27:56.460 but I spoke to a lobbyist

00:27:58.340 here in the state

00:27:59.460 who said that not only

00:28:00.980 are they highly confident

00:28:02.100 that the state

00:28:02.600 will take legal action

00:28:03.580 and that Tennessee

00:28:04.660 will be a leader

00:28:05.320 in the nation

00:28:05.860 of stopping this

00:28:06.520 because of the work

00:28:07.120 that you've done,

00:28:07.760 but that in the wake

00:28:08.800 of your coverage

00:28:10.660 and in the wake

00:28:11.240 of this rally,

00:28:12.260 they've also heard

00:28:12.960 that Alabama

00:28:13.460 is taking steps

00:28:14.420 to go ahead

00:28:15.620 and get ahead of it

00:28:16.260 and outlaw

00:28:16.900 this horrible practice

00:28:18.260 of castration

00:28:20.640 and mutilation

00:28:21.140 of children

00:28:21.620 in the name

00:28:22.120 of radical trans ideology too.

00:28:24.080 So I think it's

00:28:25.720 unbelievable work

00:28:26.440 that you're doing

00:28:26.920 and I want to point out

00:28:30.440 that when you see

00:28:31.520 the Daily Wire

00:28:32.060 doing these things,

00:28:32.880 when you see us suing

00:28:33.620 the Biden administration

00:28:35.040 to stop the vaccine mandate,

00:28:36.420 when you see us,

00:28:37.240 you know,

00:28:37.720 putting out

00:28:38.640 this unbelievable content

00:28:39.700 like Candace's

00:28:41.200 greatest lie ever sold,

00:28:42.500 George Floyd

00:28:42.960 and the rise of BLM

00:28:43.860 or what is a woman,

00:28:44.820 when you see us

00:28:45.460 being able to put

00:28:46.380 these events

00:28:47.220 like your,

00:28:48.260 in child mutilation

00:28:49.380 event on,

00:28:50.300 it really is

00:28:51.000 in no small part

00:28:52.300 because of our members

00:28:53.820 at Daily Wire Plus

00:28:54.720 who in a very real way

00:28:58.620 have made an investment

00:28:59.480 in the Daily Wire's

00:29:00.920 ability to do

00:29:02.240 the things that we do

00:29:02.900 that I think

00:29:03.280 it's fair to say

00:29:04.480 no one in my lifetime

00:29:06.820 in the conservative movement

00:29:07.800 has had an operation

00:29:09.400 akin to ours,

00:29:10.580 which is a for-profit,

00:29:13.100 growing,

00:29:14.320 thriving organization

00:29:15.480 that is also

00:29:17.460 highly,

00:29:18.480 highly effective

00:29:19.000 and in some ways

00:29:20.720 that's like saying,

00:29:21.480 you know,

00:29:21.640 there's always that

00:29:22.140 New York Times headline

00:29:22.940 that's like

00:29:23.380 crime decreases

00:29:26.300 despite increasing

00:29:27.160 gun ownership

00:29:27.700 or whatever,

00:29:28.200 like crime falls

00:29:28.980 despite increasing

00:29:29.580 gun ownership.

00:29:30.820 Right.

00:29:31.960 It is because

00:29:32.940 the Daily Wire

00:29:33.440 is a for-profit company

00:29:34.320 that we are so effective.

00:29:35.420 The reason we're doing

00:29:36.280 more than any organization

00:29:37.600 in the conservative movement

00:29:38.520 has done in the last 40 years

00:29:39.800 is because we're driven

00:29:41.160 by business principles

00:29:42.280 because our economic lives

00:29:45.900 depend on us

00:29:46.860 continuing to be successful,

00:29:48.420 continuing to deliver

00:29:49.220 for our audience

00:29:50.280 and in particular

00:29:51.320 the part of our audience

00:29:52.540 that subscribes

00:29:53.160 or the part of our audience

00:29:54.320 that becomes members

00:29:54.960 and that means giving them

00:29:56.240 unbelievable content

00:29:57.180 but it also means

00:29:58.360 giving them

00:29:59.360 unbelievable accomplishments

00:30:01.840 missionally.

00:30:03.320 I think that

00:30:03.760 that is part of

00:30:05.040 the actual value proposition

00:30:06.560 for the people

00:30:07.140 who become members

00:30:08.200 at Daily Wire Plus.

00:30:09.100 they're saying

00:30:09.880 yeah we want

00:30:10.880 new content

00:30:11.900 from Jordan Peterson

00:30:12.600 yeah we want

00:30:13.560 Member Block

00:30:14.060 yeah we love

00:30:14.660 What is a Woman

00:30:15.180 it's an awesome documentary

00:30:16.060 yeah we also love

00:30:17.900 that you fight

00:30:18.920 we also love that

00:30:19.880 not only do you fight

00:30:20.800 but you win

00:30:21.320 we also love that

00:30:22.240 you guys

00:30:22.640 instead of

00:30:23.700 being in that sort of

00:30:24.780 non-profit cycle

00:30:25.620 of lose, bitch, repeat

00:30:26.940 lose, bitch, fundraise, repeat

00:30:28.820 you seem to be

00:30:30.180 more in the cycle

00:30:31.160 of win

00:30:32.060 tell us about it

00:30:33.780 ask us to trade

00:30:34.740 value for value

00:30:35.540 and then go win again

00:30:36.480 and so I think

00:30:38.200 this is just

00:30:38.780 it's amazing

00:30:39.680 I think it's also

00:30:40.940 important to juxtapose

00:30:42.920 what you were doing

00:30:43.860 and you know

00:30:45.060 what we as a company

00:30:46.220 have been doing

00:30:46.640 with what the White House

00:30:47.820 is doing

00:30:48.180 because I think people

00:30:49.180 there's a whole group

00:30:50.780 of people out there

00:30:51.360 many people on the right

00:30:52.320 who do not understand

00:30:53.160 the nature of the battle

00:30:53.860 and this has been

00:30:54.560 a historic problem

00:30:55.220 with the Republican Party

00:30:56.000 it's been a historic

00:30:56.500 problem with conservatives

00:30:57.220 that conservatives

00:30:58.400 shy away from what they

00:30:59.820 think are the hottest battles

00:31:00.820 they think that it's

00:31:01.420 too scary

00:31:02.180 if we invest in these battles

00:31:03.800 it's going to make us

00:31:04.280 look mean

00:31:04.800 or it's going to make us

00:31:05.400 look cruel

00:31:05.740 and the natural outcome

00:31:06.880 of that is that

00:31:07.540 the left keeps pushing

00:31:08.280 and pushing

00:31:08.620 and pushing

00:31:08.960 and transgressing

00:31:09.620 and transgressing

00:31:10.260 until there's nothing

00:31:10.820 left to transgress

00:31:11.460 and one of the things

00:31:12.840 that happened this week

00:31:13.800 at the White House

00:31:14.520 is what I think

00:31:15.660 is the most morally

00:31:17.700 perverse thing

00:31:18.300 I have ever seen

00:31:18.820 at the White House

00:31:19.280 which is a hell of a statement

00:31:20.160 because I've seen a lot of

00:31:20.820 I mean I wasn't there

00:31:21.900 for Bill Clinton and Monica

00:31:22.700 but this was in many ways

00:31:24.740 worse honestly

00:31:25.460 the White House

00:31:26.460 the White House swimming pool

00:31:26.840 during JFK

00:31:27.640 gave Clinton a run

00:31:29.520 there's some pretty bad stuff

00:31:31.220 but in terms of the ideological

00:31:33.560 immorality of what we saw

00:31:35.100 at the White House this week

00:31:35.860 I'm not sure it's ever been surpassed

00:31:37.020 so there's a person

00:31:38.220 for those who missed it

00:31:39.060 named Dylan Mulvaney

00:31:39.880 Dylan Mulvaney was a former

00:31:40.960 Broadway star

00:31:41.660 was in Book of Mormon

00:31:42.520 and Dylan Mulvaney

00:31:44.200 started a TikTok series

00:31:46.080 after becoming lonely

00:31:47.600 during COVID

00:31:48.420 and starting an Instagram

00:31:49.720 or a TikTok rather

00:31:50.980 in March of this year

00:31:52.940 started a process

00:31:55.220 of transition

00:31:56.020 declared that he

00:31:56.800 in fact was a she

00:31:57.600 and started doing a series

00:31:58.960 called Day Blank of Girlhood

00:32:00.440 and so it was

00:32:01.160 Day 1 of Girlhood

00:32:02.060 Day 2 of Girlhood

00:32:03.000 and these videos

00:32:04.100 are absurd

00:32:05.300 I mean they're absurd

00:32:05.940 they're stereotypical

00:32:06.780 they are

00:32:07.360 somebody called it

00:32:08.260 woman face

00:32:08.680 it is woman face

00:32:09.380 it is mockery of women

00:32:10.920 in the name of women

00:32:12.260 Day 1 is this man

00:32:14.680 dressed up in a woman's outfit

00:32:16.180 and speaking in a

00:32:17.640 high pitched voice

00:32:18.680 talking about

00:32:19.380 I cried 3 times today

00:32:20.720 and this is what

00:32:21.440 makes me a woman

00:32:22.160 on day 1 of being a woman

00:32:23.000 I've only been a woman

00:32:23.560 for one day

00:32:23.940 and I cried 3 times

00:32:24.740 and then we have

00:32:26.360 this person

00:32:26.880 doing cutting videos

00:32:29.200 about how

00:32:29.960 he walks around

00:32:31.060 in very short shorts

00:32:33.380 that demonstrate

00:32:34.960 his manhood

00:32:35.840 and how people

00:32:36.740 are staring at him

00:32:37.480 because of this

00:32:37.920 but he's going to

00:32:38.600 normalize that

00:32:39.300 on behalf of

00:32:39.800 the trans community

00:32:40.220 okay so

00:32:40.660 this person

00:32:41.640 has a series

00:32:43.140 of ad contracts

00:32:44.220 with a bunch

00:32:45.220 of different

00:32:46.340 makeup companies

00:32:47.500 ranging from

00:32:48.260 Cerave

00:32:48.860 to Mac

00:32:49.840 to Ulta

00:32:51.020 and this person

00:32:52.020 did an interview

00:32:52.580 with another

00:32:53.900 non-gender binary person

00:32:56.320 gender non-binary person

00:32:57.600 for Ulta

00:32:58.880 that went viral

00:33:00.120 because Dylan Mulvaney

00:33:00.820 and this says

00:33:01.260 I know now

00:33:02.480 that I can be a mother

00:33:03.200 spoiler alert

00:33:04.320 you can

00:33:04.880 you're a dude

00:33:05.720 ain't no way

00:33:06.480 ain't gonna work

00:33:07.000 the White House

00:33:08.220 invited Dylan Mulvaney

00:33:09.360 to the White House

00:33:10.400 to interview

00:33:11.240 the President of the United States

00:33:12.380 the President of the United States

00:33:13.420 who will not grant

00:33:14.060 an interview to reporters

00:33:14.960 like to actual people

00:33:16.040 who do this for a living

00:33:16.780 because the President of the United States

00:33:18.340 can no longer speak words

00:33:19.100 out of his face hole

00:33:19.700 but this person

00:33:20.740 did invite Dylan Mulvaney

00:33:21.760 so Dylan Mulvaney

00:33:22.780 is sitting there

00:33:23.480 and asks the President

00:33:24.520 of the United States

00:33:25.340 this is a man

00:33:25.920 dressed as a woman

00:33:26.540 pretending to be a woman

00:33:27.180 asks him

00:33:28.220 about exactly the issues

00:33:29.340 that Matt is talking about

00:33:30.240 asks the President

00:33:31.160 what do you say

00:33:32.560 about all these states

00:33:33.360 that are attempting

00:33:33.880 to ban

00:33:34.520 what they call

00:33:34.900 gender-affirming health care

00:33:35.860 which is one of the great

00:33:36.480 euphemisms of all time

00:33:37.620 gender-affirming health care

00:33:38.680 for those who have not

00:33:39.300 watched Matt's documentary

00:33:40.160 the short version

00:33:41.000 is socially transition a kid

00:33:42.300 sterilize a kid

00:33:43.200 mutilate a kid

00:33:43.820 that's the

00:33:44.160 gender-denying

00:33:45.600 sex-denying health care

00:33:47.380 it's sex-denying health care

00:33:48.260 and the President

00:33:49.260 of the United States

00:33:49.820 says it is immoral

00:33:50.920 not just illegal

00:33:52.740 immoral

00:33:53.560 to deny any kid

00:33:55.620 this sort of care

00:33:57.240 immoral

00:33:58.120 he said this

00:33:58.500 from the position

00:33:59.060 of the White House

00:33:59.540 to a man

00:34:00.160 dressed as a woman

00:34:01.580 and this was seen

00:34:03.460 as the height of bravery

00:34:04.900 by the media

00:34:06.100 is the President

00:34:06.860 of the United States

00:34:07.500 standing up for the principle

00:34:08.660 that boys can be girls

00:34:09.960 girls can be boys

00:34:10.780 and that we should

00:34:11.320 mutilate children

00:34:12.040 and mandate

00:34:13.360 that states allow

00:34:14.000 the mutilation of children

00:34:14.900 to that effect

00:34:16.060 so when we say

00:34:16.600 that Matt is standing up

00:34:17.420 to something

00:34:17.700 that's very powerful

00:34:18.360 he is standing up

00:34:19.120 to something

00:34:19.460 that's very powerful

00:34:20.200 and there are people

00:34:20.960 who have been

00:34:21.160 poo-pooing these sorts

00:34:21.860 of issues for you

00:34:22.300 ah what drag queen

00:34:23.140 story are

00:34:23.560 who cares

00:34:23.840 ah you know

00:34:24.600 when it comes to

00:34:25.100 transing the kids

00:34:25.660 who cares

00:34:25.900 ah you know

00:34:26.680 what a bunch of

00:34:27.380 bad school books

00:34:28.740 at the libraries

00:34:29.200 who cares

00:34:29.720 the answer is

00:34:30.340 everybody cares

00:34:31.100 everybody should care

00:34:31.800 and Matt is proving

00:34:32.360 that everybody should care

00:34:33.120 you know I have to say

00:34:34.220 I made a discovery

00:34:35.020 first of all Matt

00:34:35.840 good on you

00:34:36.980 you know this is God's work

00:34:38.080 it really is

00:34:38.660 I think gender

00:34:39.880 is a fascinating

00:34:40.600 and complex topic

00:34:41.740 butchering children

00:34:42.700 is demonic

00:34:43.480 and I think

00:34:44.080 you know

00:34:44.460 if nobody stops it

00:34:45.680 it just goes on

00:34:46.680 but I actually sat down

00:34:48.680 so that you guys

00:34:49.660 don't have to

00:34:50.160 and read the book

00:34:50.980 Gender Trouble

00:34:51.720 by Judith Butler

00:34:52.420 which is really

00:34:53.800 the book that started

00:34:54.680 this all

00:34:55.120 it is the underlying

00:34:56.120 philosophy

00:34:57.040 and it's famously

00:34:58.240 written in this

00:34:59.100 very very

00:35:00.120 obscurantist prose

00:35:02.000 so you can't understand

00:35:02.780 what she's saying

00:35:03.400 and so I actually

00:35:04.340 went through it

00:35:04.840 what fascinated me

00:35:05.940 about it

00:35:06.360 is that her premise

00:35:07.580 and Matt's premise

00:35:08.340 are exactly the same

00:35:09.440 she starts out

00:35:10.580 by saying

00:35:11.120 that the problem

00:35:12.340 with feminism

00:35:12.880 is they keep

00:35:13.560 talking about we

00:35:14.400 but there is no we

00:35:15.700 because there's no

00:35:16.500 such thing as women

00:35:17.720 that's essentially

00:35:18.420 what she's saying

00:35:19.040 so I thought

00:35:19.700 gee here's the woman

00:35:20.480 who started this

00:35:21.280 and she agrees with you

00:35:22.280 you know

00:35:22.560 they are eliminating

00:35:23.820 the category

00:35:24.600 of female

00:35:25.420 from the human population

00:35:26.800 because she says

00:35:27.940 she makes the argument

00:35:29.220 basically that only men

00:35:30.280 exist in our

00:35:31.900 horrible chauvinistic mind

00:35:33.780 and I don't want to

00:35:34.640 go into it too deeply

00:35:35.560 because it's so stupid

00:35:36.600 and so empty

00:35:37.340 and so based on nothing

00:35:38.900 no factual material

00:35:40.200 but you caught them

00:35:42.340 you caught them

00:35:42.900 that is exactly

00:35:43.800 what they're saying

00:35:44.360 they're saying

00:35:44.920 ladies you do not exist

00:35:46.560 your lives don't exist

00:35:48.240 the experience of being

00:35:49.480 in a female body

00:35:50.660 and having children

00:35:52.540 be a possibility

00:35:53.340 of having periods

00:35:54.260 of having all the things

00:35:55.420 that women have

00:35:56.000 in their lives

00:35:56.620 that most of us here

00:35:57.740 respect deeply

00:35:58.720 and think is one of

00:35:59.840 the great parts

00:36:00.420 of human nature

00:36:01.880 it has no reality

00:36:04.260 this is such an important point

00:36:05.300 because a lot of people

00:36:06.080 think the transgender issue

00:36:07.200 the ones who poo poo

00:36:07.940 like Ben is saying

00:36:08.740 they say oh this cropped up

00:36:10.160 in the last five years

00:36:10.980 is nothing

00:36:11.520 but it's the same premise

00:36:13.680 that you had in feminism

00:36:14.620 which is men and women

00:36:15.440 are basically the same

00:36:16.340 it flows naturally

00:36:17.920 into the gay marriage movement

00:36:19.880 which is men and women

00:36:20.620 are exactly the same

00:36:21.500 flows naturally

00:36:22.400 into the transgender movement

00:36:23.400 which is men and women

00:36:24.040 are exactly the same

00:36:24.880 so when you're fighting

00:36:26.100 against that

00:36:26.760 you're not fighting

00:36:27.800 against some weird fad

00:36:29.080 on a college campus

00:36:29.980 five minutes ago

00:36:30.740 you're fighting against

00:36:32.140 an issue that has been

00:36:33.360 building for at least

00:36:34.880 60 years

00:36:35.700 maybe longer

00:36:36.600 I mean

00:36:37.240 listen to Carl Truman

00:36:38.640 who also appears

00:36:39.200 in our film

00:36:39.640 but this goes back

00:36:40.540 to the romantics

00:36:41.500 yeah it goes back

00:36:42.400 centuries

00:36:43.280 it goes back

00:36:44.160 to the whole idea

00:36:45.460 that what matters most

00:36:47.440 is our

00:36:47.680 I told Carl

00:36:49.740 to stop picking on words

00:36:50.660 he mixes all

00:36:52.700 the romantics together

00:36:53.700 conservative romantics

00:36:55.140 are great

00:36:55.500 I think

00:36:55.860 to your point

00:36:57.260 about what Joe Biden

00:36:58.320 is doing

00:36:58.600 I actually appreciate it

00:36:59.940 because he

00:37:00.860 it's like we're a team now

00:37:02.380 we're working together

00:37:02.960 because he is

00:37:05.840 he is showing

00:37:06.500 the fact that this guy

00:37:07.700 first of all

00:37:08.080 you got this

00:37:08.560 this guy

00:37:09.200 who decides

00:37:10.240 he's going to become

00:37:10.820 a woman

00:37:11.240 and a few months later

00:37:13.800 he's got corporate

00:37:14.640 sponsorships

00:37:15.120 he's invited to the

00:37:15.860 White House

00:37:16.180 to speak on behalf

00:37:16.900 of women

00:37:17.260 this is the

00:37:18.080 you know

00:37:18.240 I've never believed

00:37:19.060 in the idea of

00:37:19.820 male privilege

00:37:20.340 but now I have to

00:37:20.940 amend that

00:37:21.360 because there is

00:37:22.140 male privilege

00:37:22.660 as long as it's a male

00:37:23.680 who pretends to be a woman

00:37:24.760 has the most privilege

00:37:25.860 of all

00:37:26.320 in the future

00:37:27.000 all the best

00:37:27.640 women will be men

00:37:28.560 exactly

00:37:28.960 and so he ends up

00:37:29.680 he ends up in the White House

00:37:30.500 and we're doing this rally

00:37:32.220 it's kind of the same

00:37:33.560 sort of having the same effect

00:37:35.340 which is to show people

00:37:36.680 that this is happening

00:37:38.580 and that it really does matter

00:37:40.460 because this is the

00:37:41.180 this is the

00:37:41.760 the number one hurdle

00:37:42.880 we've had to get over

00:37:43.700 in the fight against

00:37:44.700 this gender ideology madness

00:37:45.800 and is

00:37:46.900 is that

00:37:47.280 for a lot of conservatives

00:37:48.720 they don't even

00:37:49.980 understand

00:37:51.020 not even just conservatives

00:37:52.480 just normal people

00:37:53.320 they don't

00:37:54.060 they don't realize

00:37:54.760 that this is happening

00:37:55.440 how pervasive it is

00:37:56.560 that's the

00:37:57.680 probably the

00:37:58.180 the most common

00:37:58.900 feedback

00:38:00.220 or reaction

00:38:00.780 I get to

00:38:01.120 what is a woman

00:38:01.620 I hear from people

00:38:02.500 including people

00:38:03.080 that you think

00:38:03.580 are clued in

00:38:04.340 like politicians

00:38:05.000 would tell me

00:38:05.840 well I saw that

00:38:06.440 I had

00:38:06.660 I had no idea

00:38:07.400 that all that stuff

00:38:08.020 was happening

00:38:08.480 and

00:38:09.260 and

00:38:09.920 when you've got

00:38:11.140 Joe Biden

00:38:11.800 speaking about

00:38:13.440 mutilating kids

00:38:14.340 from the White House

00:38:14.840 I think it shows

00:38:15.420 that this is going on

00:38:16.200 it's happening

00:38:16.580 and we have to

00:38:17.400 the other thing is

00:38:18.160 you have to show up

00:38:20.120 physically

00:38:20.640 okay

00:38:21.520 yeah

00:38:21.920 as I talked about

00:38:22.860 how on the left

00:38:24.240 they're much better

00:38:24.820 at activism

00:38:26.080 but that's a crutch

00:38:27.760 that we have to

00:38:28.280 we can't

00:38:28.740 we can't rely on anymore

00:38:29.940 because it does matter

00:38:31.440 to actually show up

00:38:32.220 it's one thing to tweet about it

00:38:33.160 talk about it

00:38:33.740 as we do in conservative media

00:38:34.940 but you have to

00:38:35.880 the image of actual human beings

00:38:38.660 out there holding signs against it

00:38:40.660 well the whole issue hinges on the physical body

00:38:43.200 so it's no surprise

00:38:44.580 and they're right about that

00:38:45.920 actually

00:38:46.260 you do have to physically show up

00:38:47.860 I didn't believe in gender transitioning previously

00:38:51.520 I did not believe that

00:38:52.640 a man could become a woman

00:38:54.320 but when you say

00:38:55.200 that this Dillon fella

00:38:56.120 cried three times in one day

00:38:57.780 I'm going to reevaluate

00:39:00.800 you've never seen Brian Stelter

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00:40:13.280 there is one additional point

00:40:15.000 that I wanted to make

00:40:15.860 when it comes to

00:40:16.520 I think why so many people

00:40:17.840 don't know what's going on

00:40:19.980 with the trends issue

00:40:20.960 they look at it

00:40:21.760 and it's so weird

00:40:22.320 and it's so bizarre

00:40:22.940 and it's so strange

00:40:24.400 and people look at this

00:40:25.240 and they say

00:40:25.600 because it's weird and bizarre

00:40:26.480 and strange

00:40:26.840 it must not be happening

00:40:27.580 they literally cannot believe

00:40:28.560 that it's happening

00:40:29.420 and that is because

00:40:30.860 it is an outgrowth

00:40:31.680 of an ideology

00:40:32.300 that nearly everyone

00:40:33.840 has bought into

00:40:34.540 but they didn't realize

00:40:35.560 the consequences

00:40:36.200 of that ideology

00:40:36.880 were going to be

00:40:37.340 and that ideology

00:40:38.740 is essentially

00:40:39.740 this is Truman's point

00:40:41.400 that identity

00:40:42.460 is to be found

00:40:43.100 in the sexual pleasure instinct

00:40:44.760 and anything that inhibits

00:40:45.680 it needs to be destroyed

00:40:46.360 and because we as a society

00:40:48.200 have bought into that

00:40:49.100 so much

00:40:49.620 that what we are

00:40:50.440 is just the sexual instinct

00:40:51.520 what we are

00:40:51.900 is our feeling inside

00:40:53.100 and literally

00:40:54.360 all of our modern literature

00:40:55.360 is written on this basis

00:40:56.260 all of our movies

00:40:57.340 are made on this basis

00:40:58.120 and my favorite example

00:40:59.100 is all the Disney movies

00:41:00.200 where it used to be

00:41:01.100 that when it was Pinocchio

00:41:02.360 it was about

00:41:02.680 how do you learn

00:41:03.340 to do your duty

00:41:03.940 so you can become a real boy

00:41:04.980 and now every movie

00:41:06.140 is how do you find

00:41:06.980 your inner bliss

00:41:07.660 so that you can

00:41:08.480 truly be free

00:41:09.380 how do you buck

00:41:09.880 society's conventions

00:41:10.700 in order to truly be yourself

00:41:11.800 and because we've all

00:41:12.800 bought into that model

00:41:13.800 we never saw this coming

00:41:15.200 and so when people

00:41:15.820 actually take that

00:41:16.440 to its logical extreme

00:41:17.420 which is

00:41:17.820 you ought to celebrate

00:41:18.980 however I feel

00:41:20.100 and if I feel like

00:41:20.840 something that's

00:41:21.280 absolutely counterfactual

00:41:22.380 you should still celebrate it

00:41:23.440 and it's a denial

00:41:24.040 of what makes me me

00:41:25.100 then people are shocked by it

00:41:27.400 it's like the lights

00:41:28.540 suddenly go on

00:41:29.300 and what makes it even harder

00:41:31.060 is that in order

00:41:32.020 to root that out

00:41:33.060 you can't just root out

00:41:34.080 this particular issue

00:41:34.800 you have to root out

00:41:35.280 the entire ideology

00:41:36.060 you have to actually

00:41:36.980 start to see identity

00:41:38.580 in a way that we have not

00:41:39.440 seen identity in the west

00:41:40.580 for solidly a hundred years

00:41:41.680 you have to go back

00:41:42.400 to fundamental principles

00:41:43.420 about what makes

00:41:44.560 human beings human beings

00:41:45.580 and what makes

00:41:46.020 human beings fulfilled

00:41:46.780 and that's something

00:41:47.500 that many people

00:41:48.140 in the west

00:41:48.460 are just incapable

00:41:49.180 of facing up to

00:41:49.980 because again

00:41:50.420 when you spend all day

00:41:51.680 every day thinking about

00:41:52.640 how do I feel

00:41:53.240 and what will make me

00:41:53.880 feel better

00:41:54.300 which is what we are

00:41:55.340 trained to do

00:41:55.680 from the time

00:41:56.040 that we are small kids

00:41:56.740 I mean it's Brave New World

00:41:57.480 we are trained to do

00:41:58.280 this stuff from the time

00:41:59.020 that we are tiny kids

00:41:59.820 this is what C.S. Lewis

00:42:00.820 called the great movement

00:42:02.160 of internalization

00:42:03.220 because once you lose

00:42:04.160 contact with the idea

00:42:05.320 that there is a spirit

00:42:06.280 in whose image

00:42:07.000 you're made

00:42:07.860 there's nothing but

00:42:09.220 what's inside you

00:42:10.640 and so it becomes

00:42:11.480 Eros becomes

00:42:12.300 the most powerful

00:42:13.180 I mean this is Freud's point

00:42:15.040 right I mean this is

00:42:15.580 no he's part of it

00:42:17.060 he's a big part of it

00:42:17.840 exactly

00:42:18.220 and so you know

00:42:19.240 there's something

00:42:19.940 that I've started to do

00:42:20.760 and I want to do it more

00:42:21.580 and that is re-term

00:42:22.700 what I think the left is now

00:42:23.940 they've been calling themselves

00:42:24.680 progressive falsely

00:42:25.920 for generations

00:42:27.240 and what they really are

00:42:28.100 is transgressive

00:42:29.120 all they are is transgressive

00:42:31.080 all they want to do

00:42:31.700 is tear down

00:42:32.260 all of the standards

00:42:33.040 all of the institutions

00:42:33.880 they want to transgress

00:42:34.920 the transgression

00:42:35.480 is the point

00:42:36.220 everything has to be

00:42:37.380 torn down

00:42:37.860 and it has to be

00:42:39.120 torn down

00:42:39.440 so that you can be

00:42:39.960 liberated on the inside

00:42:41.220 and the destruction

00:42:42.020 is not the bug

00:42:43.460 it's the feature

00:42:44.020 what's another simpler word

00:42:45.280 for transgression

00:42:46.060 well sin would be

00:42:47.980 you know I have to tell you

00:42:50.160 Ben that

00:42:50.540 they're the transgressives

00:42:52.420 I hate to give you

00:42:53.280 this great compliment

00:42:54.200 on the air

00:42:54.600 that's so good

00:42:56.200 and it's so much better

00:42:57.440 than

00:42:58.040 we used to say

00:42:59.400 they're not the progressive left

00:43:00.780 they're the regressive left

00:43:01.660 they're not regressive

00:43:02.140 and it's like by the way

00:43:03.080 when you use regressive

00:43:04.300 you're granting the progressive point

00:43:05.900 which is there's a back

00:43:06.620 but transgressive

00:43:07.780 that's it

00:43:08.260 because you're saying

00:43:09.140 there is an objective

00:43:10.220 moral reality here

00:43:11.860 and these guys

00:43:13.220 just transgress it

00:43:14.740 every step of the way

00:43:16.100 and that's the goal

00:43:16.580 the goal is

00:43:17.220 they must destroy

00:43:18.500 and you see it by the way

00:43:19.140 in literally everything

00:43:20.160 I mean I know later on

00:43:21.480 we're going to talk about

00:43:22.080 what happened

00:43:22.460 at this art installation

00:43:23.340 but I mean

00:43:24.460 the destruction

00:43:26.320 is the point

00:43:27.260 the destruction

00:43:27.780 and by the way

00:43:28.860 they have to train the kids

00:43:29.860 it's important to train the kids

00:43:31.100 in transgressive mentality

00:43:32.340 because you can't

00:43:33.720 take a normal human being

00:43:34.760 and tell the normal human being

00:43:35.780 who hasn't been brought up

00:43:36.620 in that transgressive mentality

00:43:37.620 that it's good to destroy

00:43:38.480 all the things

00:43:39.040 that person relies upon

00:43:40.040 you have to take kids

00:43:41.000 who are tabula rasa

00:43:41.820 and don't understand

00:43:42.780 any of the institutions

00:43:43.540 and you have to tell them

00:43:44.300 that their greatest happiness

00:43:45.060 is to be found

00:43:45.680 in joining the mob

00:43:46.520 and tearing things down

00:43:47.540 it's not

00:43:47.980 like you wonder

00:43:49.320 why they're doing

00:43:49.900 drag queen story hour

00:43:50.680 why are they targeting the kids

00:43:51.680 why can't they just do it for adults

00:43:52.700 because they can't do it for adults

00:43:54.060 the whole point is

00:43:54.800 that they are building

00:43:55.320 an entire generation of people

00:43:56.520 who are going to engage in this

00:43:58.140 when we talk about grooming

00:43:59.100 it's not grooming for sex

00:44:00.080 it's grooming for ideology

00:44:01.060 the idea is you're going to

00:44:01.820 ideologically groom kids

00:44:03.160 so that they are part

00:44:03.960 of a group of people

00:44:04.620 who celebrate you

00:44:05.160 and by the way

00:44:05.560 they openly say this

00:44:06.660 remember there's a video

00:44:07.460 that came out

00:44:08.000 not all that long ago

00:44:08.920 a couple years ago actually

00:44:09.820 I think it was the

00:44:10.560 San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus

00:44:12.040 you remember this one

00:44:12.620 yes yes

00:44:13.100 they put out a video

00:44:14.140 they said we're going to

00:44:14.820 we are going to make your kids

00:44:15.860 we are going to make your kids gay

00:44:16.840 right

00:44:17.080 and they do a whole song

00:44:18.440 talking about how we are

00:44:19.740 we're coming for your kids

00:44:20.660 yes we're coming for your kids

00:44:21.620 and then they took it down

00:44:22.260 because it was too close to home

00:44:23.220 and people noticed

00:44:23.800 what they were doing

00:44:24.380 because they said

00:44:24.740 the quiet part out loud

00:44:25.560 and they said yes

00:44:26.300 we're going to make your kids fair

00:44:27.220 and we're going to make

00:44:27.940 your kids tolerant

00:44:28.620 and we're going to build

00:44:29.460 a better world

00:44:30.100 on the bodies of your kids

00:44:31.240 and that's what's going on here

00:44:32.520 we are

00:44:33.300 when you talk about

00:44:35.220 how we're conditioned

00:44:36.080 to accept a lot of the premises here

00:44:37.820 I think also conservatives

00:44:40.340 have a condition

00:44:40.940 to accept this trump card

00:44:42.400 of well

00:44:43.860 it makes me happy

00:44:45.320 and if someone says

00:44:46.600 well it makes me happy

00:44:47.460 then the conditioning is

00:44:49.280 well then okay

00:44:49.940 if it makes you happy

00:44:50.540 it makes you happy

00:44:50.940 this is one thing

00:44:51.660 filming what is a woman

00:44:52.540 and going around

00:44:53.300 to cities all across the country

00:44:54.900 and talking to people

00:44:55.440 about these issues

00:44:56.360 that's one of the most

00:44:57.600 common responses

00:44:58.560 that we heard

00:44:59.920 is just that

00:45:00.700 well

00:45:01.620 this is what I believe

00:45:02.980 but if it makes somebody happy

00:45:04.300 then they should be able

00:45:05.080 to do what makes them happy

00:45:05.960 and you know

00:45:06.960 I had a moment

00:45:08.060 at our

00:45:10.440 what is a woman screening

00:45:11.340 our most recent one

00:45:12.920 which was a

00:45:13.600 Wisconsin Madison

00:45:14.680 where I was talking

00:45:15.980 to a young man

00:45:17.360 who's transitioning

00:45:18.460 to you know

00:45:19.280 try to become a woman

00:45:20.340 and he said that

00:45:21.880 well I take this medicine

00:45:23.200 and it makes me

00:45:23.780 makes me happy

00:45:24.600 and that's supposed to be

00:45:26.680 the trump card

00:45:27.920 that we're supposed

00:45:28.600 to back away from

00:45:29.300 of course I tried to explain

00:45:30.320 that you know

00:45:31.280 that's not actually

00:45:32.380 happiness

00:45:33.180 it's not happiness

00:45:34.420 it's not the goal of life

00:45:35.400 it's not the goal of life

00:45:36.000 but it's also not

00:45:36.900 the goal of medicine

00:45:37.880 medicine

00:45:38.440 the point of medicine

00:45:39.340 is not to make you happy

00:45:40.460 in the moment

00:45:40.900 it's your overall wellness

00:45:42.620 your overall well-being

00:45:44.080 it's to treat

00:45:45.700 what is actually

00:45:47.260 wrong with you

00:45:48.420 and there's nothing wrong

00:45:49.700 with your male essence

00:45:51.580 that's who you are

00:45:52.320 but what the left

00:45:52.760 has also done

00:45:53.280 is they've played

00:45:53.700 a wonderful trick here

00:45:54.860 which is they said

00:45:55.480 in the 60s

00:45:55.980 the personal is the political

00:45:56.960 right

00:45:57.240 this is one of their big slogans

00:45:58.300 how you act personally

00:45:59.260 is an action against the man

00:46:00.800 right

00:46:01.020 if you decide to buck

00:46:01.960 the patriarchy

00:46:02.660 by engaging in premarital sex

00:46:04.600 or extraneous sex

00:46:05.740 or alternative forms

00:46:06.880 of sexual arrangement

00:46:07.560 this is bucking the patriarchy

00:46:08.820 right

00:46:08.980 the personal is political

00:46:09.820 and then you say

00:46:11.020 okay well if the personal

00:46:11.780 is political

00:46:12.260 then I don't like your politics

00:46:13.980 and I don't like that

00:46:14.700 and I think that that's wrong

00:46:15.520 and they say

00:46:15.740 well how dare you attack me personally

00:46:16.940 why would you do that

00:46:18.180 you're attacking my happiness

00:46:19.420 and the answer is

00:46:19.940 I don't care about

00:46:20.760 what you do personally

00:46:21.540 nearly as much

00:46:22.260 as I care about

00:46:22.740 what society says

00:46:23.600 about what you do personally

00:46:24.440 right

00:46:24.900 you change the rules of society

00:46:26.200 and that's what makes the difference

00:46:27.600 right

00:46:27.860 this was always the argument

00:46:28.640 about gay marriage

00:46:29.200 the argument about gay marriage

00:46:30.120 was always you know

00:46:31.060 what do you care

00:46:31.980 if two men get married

00:46:32.700 how does it affect your marriage

00:46:33.720 how does it affect your life

00:46:34.640 and the answer is

00:46:35.400 that marriage doesn't affect my life

00:46:36.640 how society decides

00:46:37.900 what is a relationship

00:46:39.340 that is worth upholding

00:46:40.440 and cherishing

00:46:40.940 and what a society decides

00:46:42.380 is not worth upholding

00:46:43.160 that does change my marriage

00:46:44.180 is a fundamental

00:46:44.960 political institution

00:46:46.060 correct

00:46:46.380 fundamental political

00:46:47.780 that's right

00:46:48.500 and when it comes to

00:46:49.860 the rules of the road

00:46:50.780 who makes the rules of the road

00:46:51.960 matters an awful lot

00:46:53.520 and conservatives

00:46:54.340 have run away from this

00:46:55.360 I think in the name

00:46:56.220 of sort of a value

00:46:56.980 neutral libertarianism

00:46:58.060 right

00:46:58.480 the easy

00:46:59.220 when the left

00:47:00.300 wasn't quite so crazy

00:47:01.260 you can make the argument

00:47:02.420 that a neutral space

00:47:03.560 was going to be enough

00:47:04.240 right okay

00:47:04.880 you do you

00:47:05.480 and I'll do me

00:47:06.180 and we'll all get together

00:47:07.080 at the end of the day

00:47:07.660 and we'll have a beer

00:47:08.180 and it'll be totally fine

00:47:09.060 but when the left

00:47:09.640 started to take over

00:47:10.540 all of the neutral spaces

00:47:11.600 and bar everybody else

00:47:12.900 and then demand

00:47:13.560 that you lose your job

00:47:14.620 for saying that men are men

00:47:15.840 and women are women

00:47:16.560 and started to demand

00:47:17.660 that we be able

00:47:18.300 to take your kids away from you

00:47:19.380 I mean the craziest

00:47:20.200 the craziest piece of legislation

00:47:21.660 that won't be crazy

00:47:22.460 in five years

00:47:22.940 I guarantee it

00:47:23.560 because I've been saying

00:47:24.040 for at least five years

00:47:25.140 that it was going to be a thing

00:47:26.080 is this piece of proposed legislation

00:47:27.560 in Virginia

00:47:28.100 by that Virginia Democrat

00:47:29.000 who suggests that CPS

00:47:30.460 should be able to come

00:47:31.100 and remove your child from you

00:47:32.500 if your child goes to school

00:47:33.580 and expresses gender confusion

00:47:34.760 and then comes home

00:47:35.660 and you say

00:47:35.920 no Billy you're a boy

00:47:37.100 that CPS should be able

00:47:38.240 they're doing that in Canada

00:47:38.860 right

00:47:39.080 100%

00:47:39.800 and by the way

00:47:40.420 this will be common practice

00:47:41.740 in the United States

00:47:42.580 within the next five years

00:47:43.600 in California

00:47:44.380 in New York

00:47:45.220 in New Jersey

00:47:45.960 I'm just

00:47:46.440 I'm calling my shot

00:47:47.620 right now

00:47:48.000 that's conversion therapy

00:47:48.820 I mean the thing

00:47:49.720 about this is though

00:47:50.500 you know

00:47:50.860 so much of this

00:47:52.060 has to do with the press

00:47:52.860 because it's hard

00:47:54.040 it's hard for me

00:47:54.640 to even pick on Republicans

00:47:56.620 who are after all

00:47:58.560 politicians

00:47:59.320 this is what they do

00:48:00.420 that's their profession

00:48:01.240 they're politicians

00:48:01.900 their basic goal

00:48:03.140 is to be loved

00:48:03.700 and reelected

00:48:04.340 they're surrounded

00:48:05.280 by this press

00:48:06.420 and if you're in DC

00:48:07.720 you are literally

00:48:08.840 surrounded by this press

00:48:10.220 that is telling them

00:48:11.260 that they are bad people

00:48:12.880 if they disagree

00:48:13.920 and so if they say

00:48:15.080 well the economy

00:48:16.040 is not working

00:48:16.720 if they say

00:48:17.420 well this is more practical

00:48:18.420 you've got to put

00:48:19.160 criminals in jail

00:48:20.120 they can get away with that

00:48:21.580 but if you say

00:48:22.280 you know what

00:48:22.940 you can't change

00:48:24.240 from a man to a woman

00:48:25.080 the press

00:48:25.900 as one

00:48:26.840 sits on their heads

00:48:28.020 and say you are evil

00:48:29.120 and they break

00:48:30.040 but this is where

00:48:30.500 the crowd matters

00:48:31.060 so the perfect example

00:48:32.620 of what Matt's doing

00:48:33.520 right now

00:48:33.980 you're basically

00:48:34.980 what you're doing

00:48:35.820 is on a new issue

00:48:36.640 what you're basically doing

00:48:37.400 is what the pro-life movement

00:48:38.080 did in the aftermath of Roe

00:48:39.060 right

00:48:39.480 because in the aftermath of Roe

00:48:40.700 if you actually look

00:48:41.160 at the constituency of the party

00:48:42.160 there's pretty broad

00:48:43.400 spectrum overlap

00:48:44.340 in terms of abortion

00:48:45.160 there are a lot of

00:48:45.820 pro-abortion Republicans

00:48:46.580 there are a lot of

00:48:47.140 pro-life Republicans

00:48:48.220 there were some

00:48:48.940 pro-life Democrats

00:48:50.240 at the time

00:48:50.780 and pretty quickly

00:48:52.200 the political incentives

00:48:53.380 started to change

00:48:54.640 and they started to realign

00:48:55.760 and suddenly

00:48:56.440 you could not be

00:48:57.320 a pro-choice Republican

00:48:58.220 this was not something

00:48:58.940 that was considered

00:48:59.440 widely acceptable

00:49:00.240 and for the Democrats

00:49:01.160 it was the opposite

00:49:01.780 you could not be

00:49:02.400 a pro-life Democrat

00:49:03.160 you can't name

00:49:04.020 a pro-life Democrat

00:49:04.620 today

00:49:04.960 in the Democratic Party

00:49:06.060 and what you're doing

00:49:07.640 out there

00:49:08.060 is performing

00:49:09.360 the political function

00:49:10.560 of what you should be doing

00:49:12.220 which is

00:49:12.900 politics is not

00:49:14.120 about electing the right people

00:49:15.200 politics is about

00:49:15.960 making the wrong people

00:49:16.600 do the right things

00:49:17.240 and that starts

00:49:18.220 with changing

00:49:18.920 the incentive structure

00:49:19.760 and that starts

00:49:20.260 with the public

00:49:20.820 pressure campaign

00:49:21.400 you think any of these

00:49:21.880 politicians

00:49:22.340 five seconds ago

00:49:23.600 cared about school boards

00:49:24.620 you think any of these

00:49:25.200 politicians five seconds ago

00:49:26.160 cared about Vandy

00:49:26.740 you think any of these

00:49:27.640 politicians five seconds ago

00:49:28.640 cared about the transing

00:49:29.460 of the children

00:49:29.840 they didn't even know

00:49:30.580 about it

00:49:31.000 it's because people

00:49:32.020 wake up

00:49:32.600 and that's the job

00:49:33.340 of what Matt's doing

00:49:34.400 and we're proud to sponsor

00:49:35.340 a lot of that work

00:49:36.280 here at Daily Wire

00:49:37.340 but Matt being out

00:49:38.540 on the front lines

00:49:39.060 and all of us talking

00:49:39.780 about this stuff daily

00:49:40.440 raising the awareness

00:49:41.120 of people who then

00:49:41.660 go to their politicians

00:49:42.300 and say you best

00:49:43.140 do something about this

00:49:43.960 or we will turn

00:49:44.500 your ass out of office

00:49:45.320 that's what's going

00:49:46.700 to change

00:49:47.020 and it is

00:49:47.740 about the family too

00:49:49.060 because what is

00:49:49.840 the basic thing

00:49:50.720 that people will

00:49:51.400 show up for

00:49:51.980 they will show up

00:49:52.920 for their kids

00:49:53.540 and mothers especially

00:49:54.980 I think will show up

00:49:55.700 for their kids

00:49:56.080 and that's why

00:49:56.540 they want mothers

00:49:57.060 and people are

00:49:57.860 parents are terrified

00:49:59.280 of what's happening

00:50:01.560 to kids

00:50:02.060 especially parents

00:50:03.080 that send their kids

00:50:03.620 there's no way

00:50:04.800 to overstate this

00:50:05.720 this is

00:50:05.980 I mean

00:50:06.660 parents are

00:50:08.440 I talk about

00:50:09.100 people wake up

00:50:09.760 in the morning

00:50:10.120 worried about

00:50:10.680 for a lot of parents

00:50:12.080 I think millions

00:50:12.580 of parents

00:50:12.960 this is probably

00:50:14.040 number one

00:50:15.040 even before the economy

00:50:15.800 I agree with you

00:50:16.240 they might say

00:50:17.180 in a poll or something

00:50:18.840 that people name

00:50:19.520 the economy

00:50:19.920 it is something

00:50:20.300 people care about

00:50:20.960 because they still

00:50:22.260 don't actually think

00:50:22.980 about their kids

00:50:23.540 as a political topic

00:50:24.920 so when you go to

00:50:25.680 someone and say

00:50:26.040 what's the most important

00:50:26.740 political issue

00:50:27.420 they don't associate

00:50:29.980 the feelings

00:50:30.660 that they have

00:50:31.060 about their kids

00:50:31.360 but I will tell you

00:50:31.760 I moved

00:50:32.060 it was a massive factor

00:50:33.280 in me personally

00:50:33.980 moving my family

00:50:34.540 out of California

00:50:35.060 I said to my wife

00:50:36.440 in 10 years

00:50:37.560 it will not be possible

00:50:38.340 to raise my kids

00:50:38.980 religious and traditional

00:50:39.880 in the state

00:50:40.360 it is not going to be possible

00:50:41.380 plus you'd be a target

00:50:42.160 you personally

00:50:42.760 oh 100%

00:50:43.580 I mean

00:50:44.000 but even if I weren't

00:50:45.680 I just don't think

00:50:46.460 that the left

00:50:46.820 is going to make it livable

00:50:47.640 I don't think

00:50:47.980 the transgressives

00:50:48.680 will allow tradition

00:50:49.380 to exist

00:50:49.860 again the entire basis

00:50:50.940 of transgressive philosophy

00:50:52.140 is that tradition

00:50:53.000 is bad

00:50:53.540 and must be torn down

00:50:54.580 there's another area

00:50:55.500 where you know

00:50:56.520 the right has sort of

00:50:58.180 lost its way

00:50:58.880 and that is

00:50:59.260 we lost even the language

00:51:00.800 to defend tradition

00:51:01.800 the language to defend tradition

00:51:03.180 used to be really simple

00:51:04.180 you see it by the way

00:51:04.940 like I was just in Israel

00:51:05.680 one of the things

00:51:06.420 that you see

00:51:06.860 from people

00:51:07.380 who have not spent

00:51:08.160 a lot of time

00:51:08.760 with sort of the west

00:51:10.140 and here I'm talking about

00:51:10.960 Sephardic Jews

00:51:11.460 from places like Morocco

00:51:12.200 right

00:51:12.460 Israel is broken down

00:51:13.560 to Ashkenazic

00:51:14.160 and Sephardic

00:51:14.660 you have the people

00:51:15.960 from Eastern Europe

00:51:16.600 who tend to be

00:51:17.700 a little bit more

00:51:18.180 high income

00:51:18.600 than you have the people

00:51:19.260 who are from

00:51:19.900 the Arab areas

00:51:20.680 so the people

00:51:21.080 from the Arab areas

00:51:21.700 are fairly new immigrants

00:51:22.840 like in the last 50-60 years

00:51:24.100 they moved to the state of Israel

00:51:25.760 because the state of Israel

00:51:26.240 is only 73 years old

00:51:27.220 and so a lot of them

00:51:28.720 if you even ask them

00:51:29.500 this stuff

00:51:29.940 they would look at you cross-eyed

00:51:31.320 in the same way

00:51:31.860 that the Kenyan tribesmen

00:51:33.160 were looking at you

00:51:33.960 when you asked them

00:51:34.540 about this stuff

00:51:35.000 like what in the world

00:51:35.820 are you even

00:51:36.060 and if you ask them

00:51:36.800 can you justify to me

00:51:37.920 why what you're saying is true

00:51:39.620 they would look at you

00:51:40.440 and they would laugh

00:51:41.000 they wouldn't try to give you

00:51:42.340 some sort of

00:51:42.840 secular humanist explanation

00:51:44.380 for why what they're saying is true

00:51:45.620 they would look at you

00:51:46.400 and they would laugh

00:51:47.240 and by the way

00:51:47.760 that is the proper response

00:51:48.920 of a human being

00:51:49.560 to absurdity

00:51:50.220 is to laugh at the argument

00:51:51.580 but we have lost the capacity

00:51:52.840 in this country

00:51:53.500 to laugh at the argument

00:51:54.680 specifically because we have said

00:51:56.000 that it is no longer good enough

00:51:57.180 to just say

00:51:57.740 listen my tradition says

00:51:59.380 and it's a tradition

00:52:00.260 that's worked for several thousand years

00:52:01.320 that what you're saying is stupid

00:52:02.280 right you're not allowed

00:52:03.280 to say that anymore

00:52:03.920 and so what you end up with

00:52:05.060 is this bizarre situation

00:52:06.200 where huge swaths of the West

00:52:08.280 have no language

00:52:09.360 to even discuss these issues

00:52:10.740 so Jonathan Haidt

00:52:11.900 gives a really good example

00:52:12.820 of this in the righteous mind

00:52:13.660 right he says

00:52:14.140 go to a college campus today

00:52:15.420 and ask college students

00:52:17.320 is there anything immoral

00:52:19.140 about a man

00:52:19.760 going down to the grocery store

00:52:21.200 buying a for this is his example

00:52:22.280 not mine

00:52:22.660 going down to the grocery store

00:52:24.060 buying a frozen chicken

00:52:25.020 bringing it home

00:52:26.060 and copulating

00:52:26.920 with the frozen chicken

00:52:27.600 and if you ask

00:52:29.480 most college students

00:52:30.520 they will say no

00:52:31.360 it's a victimless crime

00:52:32.320 there's nothing immoral

00:52:33.340 about a man copulating

00:52:34.340 with frozen chicken

00:52:35.020 if you ask most people

00:52:36.220 of every other culture

00:52:37.040 on planet earth

00:52:37.600 they'll say of course

00:52:38.320 there's something wrong

00:52:38.820 with it

00:52:39.020 there's something wrong

00:52:39.340 with him

00:52:39.720 what in the actual world

00:52:41.120 but we've lost the language

00:52:42.660 in the West

00:52:43.060 to be able to just say that

00:52:44.140 and we've lost the bravery

00:52:45.400 in the West

00:52:45.860 but this is the thing

00:52:46.580 that they're doing

00:52:47.740 it's an actually

00:52:48.420 an act of idolatry

00:52:50.280 as Barfield would point out

00:52:51.720 what they think

00:52:52.800 is by changing the map

00:52:54.000 they can change the territory

00:52:55.020 there are structures

00:52:56.560 of language

00:52:57.340 that we use

00:52:58.120 language is a rude tool

00:52:59.340 it's not an exact tool

00:53:00.960 language is a rude tool

00:53:01.980 with which we try to describe

00:53:03.580 what our experience

00:53:04.800 of life is

00:53:05.360 symbols to describe it

00:53:06.520 oh we can destroy the language

00:53:07.880 and therefore

00:53:08.260 we've destroyed the reality

00:53:09.420 which of course

00:53:10.140 is exactly the definition

00:53:11.740 of idolatry

00:53:12.500 the fact is

00:53:13.420 there are certain words

00:53:14.480 that are primary words

00:53:15.700 man and woman

00:53:16.440 are two of them

00:53:16.980 good evil

00:53:17.540 God is one of them

00:53:18.340 there's nothing

00:53:19.260 to compare it to

00:53:20.040 you know

00:53:21.100 Republicans

00:53:21.860 conservatives

00:53:22.440 tend to find

00:53:23.120 well a woman is this

00:53:24.660 a woman is that

00:53:25.280 we all know

00:53:26.040 what a woman is

00:53:26.660 it's beyond language

00:53:27.780 every single

00:53:28.820 you know

00:53:29.320 my little grandson

00:53:30.660 knows who mommy is

00:53:31.920 and who daddy is

00:53:32.840 and that mommy's a girl

00:53:33.680 and that

00:53:33.900 they don't have to be taught

00:53:35.080 that they know it

00:53:35.920 they absolutely know it

00:53:37.000 there's no way

00:53:38.260 to basically argue this

00:53:40.060 you just have to say

00:53:41.120 you're an idiot

00:53:42.140 and laughter

00:53:42.760 is exactly the right

00:53:44.200 you know

00:53:44.560 there's a great concept

00:53:45.500 I mean that's such

00:53:46.240 a great point

00:53:46.940 I remember when I was

00:53:48.380 a little kid

00:53:48.840 and I asked my dad

00:53:49.960 I said

00:53:50.160 you know

00:53:50.600 I was probably

00:53:51.280 three years old

00:53:51.760 dad I remember it

00:53:52.740 clearly

00:53:53.000 the difference

00:53:53.600 between a boy

00:53:54.200 and a girl

00:53:54.520 right

00:53:54.720 the boys have short hair

00:53:56.400 the girls have long hair

00:53:57.320 right

00:53:57.520 he said there's a little

00:53:58.100 more to it than that

00:53:58.920 but it didn't matter

00:53:59.780 my definition

00:54:00.780 was just as good

00:54:01.660 as any other

00:54:02.120 and there's this great

00:54:04.580 concept that

00:54:05.480 Leon Cass

00:54:06.320 the great bioethicist

00:54:07.600 at UChicago

00:54:08.260 makes

00:54:08.940 which is he describes

00:54:10.140 the wisdom of repugnance

00:54:11.860 to use John Haidt's example

00:54:13.200 of going home with the chicken

00:54:14.500 or many other examples

00:54:16.520 there were certain

00:54:17.540 there was just one

00:54:18.300 that cropped up in the press

00:54:19.240 the other day

00:54:19.780 and they said

00:54:20.420 why would it be wrong

00:54:21.820 for two siblings

00:54:23.040 let's say the two siblings

00:54:23.940 are the same sex

00:54:24.640 twins

00:54:25.020 to have an incestuous relationship

00:54:27.240 because they're twins

00:54:28.240 there's no risk of procreation

00:54:29.720 no worry about

00:54:30.560 two hundred babies

00:54:31.380 or anything

00:54:31.680 yeah

00:54:31.980 so why

00:54:33.100 what's wrong with that

00:54:34.320 and for most people

00:54:36.700 spur of the moment

00:54:37.280 they probably wouldn't give you

00:54:38.700 the rational explanation

00:54:39.960 for why that's wrong

00:54:40.740 not saying it can't be done

00:54:41.760 but they wouldn't give it to you

00:54:42.560 but we have something

00:54:43.960 which is a wisdom

00:54:44.900 of repugnance

00:54:45.920 and that carries

00:54:47.980 a hell of a lot more weight

00:54:49.380 than some cockamamie answer

00:54:50.880 from a man in a dress

00:54:51.800 talking to the president

00:54:52.660 on air

00:54:53.080 but it's interesting

00:54:53.740 if you read Jonathan Haidt

00:54:54.800 because there is this movement

00:54:55.800 this evolutionary biology

00:54:57.280 where they say

00:54:57.960 all this evolved

00:54:59.320 and created

00:55:00.020 the fact that

00:55:01.000 when you smell

00:55:01.540 something disgusting

00:55:02.460 you know

00:55:03.420 you suddenly think

00:55:04.700 it may be immoral

00:55:05.800 they think

00:55:06.580 well this just evolved

00:55:07.640 it would be the only

00:55:08.460 the moral sense

00:55:09.400 in that case

00:55:09.840 would be the only sense

00:55:10.940 that we've evolved

00:55:11.800 that refers to nothing

00:55:12.940 you know

00:55:13.420 our eyes refer to things

00:55:14.540 that you can see

00:55:15.140 our ears refer

00:55:16.100 you know

00:55:16.460 the moral sense

00:55:17.200 refers to morality

00:55:18.480 an actual thing

00:55:19.420 that is actually there

00:55:20.340 and Jonathan Haidt

00:55:21.240 is interesting

00:55:21.760 because he makes

00:55:22.640 the argument

00:55:23.160 basically that

00:55:24.160 it's all evolved

00:55:25.240 but something in him

00:55:26.660 stops

00:55:27.260 which is not true

00:55:28.480 of Paul Bloom

00:55:29.800 I think his name

00:55:30.360 is

00:55:30.540 it's not true

00:55:31.540 of him

00:55:31.720 he calls evolution

00:55:33.200 the origin of good and evil

00:55:34.660 in his book

00:55:35.580 which is nonsense

00:55:36.380 but Jonathan Haidt stops

00:55:37.940 and says

00:55:38.220 you know

00:55:38.480 there may be something

00:55:39.400 to this

00:55:39.960 there may be something

00:55:40.680 to this repugnance

00:55:41.780 and I think that's the only

00:55:42.760 logical sensible way

00:55:44.180 to behave

00:55:44.620 yeah that's absolutely true

00:55:46.260 and you know

00:55:46.720 something I

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00:57:20.160 on your new mattress

00:57:21.020 that was the best

00:57:22.660 one of the night

00:57:23.120 I got

00:57:23.340 I thought mine

00:57:25.340 was better

00:57:25.740 you would

00:57:26.980 you know

00:57:28.060 two of our

00:57:28.760 compatriots aren't

00:57:29.980 with us tonight

00:57:30.440 Candace is off

00:57:31.400 baptizing her

00:57:32.220 her child in the UK

00:57:33.360 I think you were

00:57:34.060 with her briefly

00:57:34.720 in fact I would

00:57:35.640 you know why I got

00:57:36.640 picked for godfather

00:57:37.400 tell me why

00:57:37.900 it's not

00:57:38.380 you're the godfather

00:57:39.220 I'm the godfather

00:57:39.940 actually

00:57:40.300 you know what

00:57:40.920 so some people

00:57:41.620 think you know

00:57:42.340 you're Sicilian

00:57:42.980 that's what

00:57:43.600 it's not the

00:57:44.600 catholic thing

00:57:45.160 has nothing to do

00:57:45.880 with it

00:57:46.120 it's so that I

00:57:46.760 can grant favors

00:57:47.680 on the day

00:57:48.820 of my goddaughter's

00:57:50.180 wedding

00:57:50.380 yeah

00:57:50.700 that's fantastic

00:57:51.760 and of course

00:57:52.780 Jordan Peterson

00:57:53.340 not with us

00:57:53.960 although

00:57:54.620 he was with

00:57:56.140 young Spencer

00:57:57.080 Clavin in Athens

00:57:57.980 two weeks ago

00:57:58.980 and he was with

00:57:59.480 the two of us

00:58:00.000 in Israel

00:58:00.460 the week before

00:58:01.440 that

00:58:01.740 and

00:58:02.240 an unbelievable

00:58:04.560 experience

00:58:05.200 he jetsets more

00:58:06.000 than any human

00:58:06.760 he

00:58:07.240 he is a force

00:58:09.040 of nature

00:58:09.460 and right after

00:58:10.880 this show

00:58:11.240 tonight

00:58:11.640 we will be

00:58:12.380 releasing

00:58:12.800 our new special

00:58:14.280 with Jordan

00:58:14.640 the first episode

00:58:15.240 of our new special

00:58:15.960 on marriage

00:58:16.940 I'm really excited

00:58:18.720 about our project

00:58:19.520 with Jordan

00:58:19.940 you know

00:58:20.200 we announced

00:58:20.900 in June

00:58:21.820 that he was

00:58:22.280 joining

00:58:22.740 Daily Wire Plus

00:58:23.640 but we didn't

00:58:24.840 have a lot

00:58:25.120 to show for it

00:58:25.880 we had that

00:58:26.360 first special

00:58:26.940 which is a

00:58:27.760 tremendous piece

00:58:28.280 of work

00:58:28.600 dragons

00:58:28.920 monsters

00:58:29.320 and men

00:58:29.740 and we had

00:58:31.000 his podcast

00:58:31.640 in members block

00:58:32.420 okay that's great

00:58:34.080 he was doing

00:58:34.480 the podcast

00:58:35.000 pre-existed us

00:58:35.840 so you know

00:58:36.720 we're very happy

00:58:37.460 to have it

00:58:37.820 but it's not like

00:58:38.360 something that

00:58:39.240 Daily Wire

00:58:39.640 brought to the table

00:58:40.380 between now

00:58:42.780 and the end

00:58:43.640 of this year

00:58:44.700 which is only

00:58:45.120 two months

00:58:45.620 hence

00:58:45.920 we're going

00:58:47.140 to be releasing

00:58:47.760 so much

00:58:48.900 incredible

00:58:49.760 premium

00:58:51.280 exclusive

00:58:52.100 Jordan Peterson

00:58:52.740 content

00:58:53.220 that has never

00:58:54.140 been seen before

00:58:54.740 or can't be seen

00:58:55.420 anywhere else

00:58:56.000 people aren't

00:58:56.820 going to believe

00:58:57.540 the body of work

00:58:59.140 that we're putting

00:58:59.660 in

00:58:59.880 that we're going

00:59:00.920 to be putting

00:59:01.220 into the world

00:59:01.740 starting tonight

00:59:02.560 with the first

00:59:03.180 episode of marriage

00:59:03.820 we have an

00:59:05.300 incredible special

00:59:06.960 coming out

00:59:07.920 with Jordan

00:59:08.280 on vision

00:59:08.800 an incredible

00:59:10.160 special that he

00:59:11.340 shot in Athens

00:59:12.180 on depression

00:59:13.340 and anxiety

00:59:14.100 and how to

00:59:14.960 face those

00:59:15.720 demons

00:59:16.760 we have

00:59:17.940 I can't even

00:59:19.720 talk about all

00:59:20.300 of it

00:59:20.440 because it's

00:59:20.760 not my place

00:59:21.200 some of it

00:59:21.580 is his

00:59:22.020 to announce

00:59:22.760 but I think

00:59:23.900 it's fair to say

00:59:24.480 that by

00:59:25.020 you know

00:59:25.760 eight weeks

00:59:26.620 from today

00:59:27.220 there will be

00:59:27.940 I don't know

00:59:29.560 20 hours

00:59:30.900 or 30 hours

00:59:31.740 of premium

00:59:32.420 exclusive

00:59:32.940 Peterson content

00:59:34.060 that we've been

00:59:34.560 working on

00:59:35.080 since June

00:59:35.540 and we're really

00:59:35.920 excited to bring

00:59:36.460 to bear

00:59:36.700 I'm thrilled

00:59:38.060 about this one

00:59:38.620 because on the

00:59:39.240 night that we

00:59:39.640 announced that

00:59:40.100 Jordan was joining

00:59:40.700 us at the

00:59:41.820 Ryman

00:59:42.060 we had an

00:59:42.600 unbelievable

00:59:43.020 conversation about

00:59:43.840 marriage

00:59:44.100 I think it's

00:59:44.800 something that

00:59:45.260 our audience

00:59:45.740 really responded

00:59:46.520 to

00:59:46.760 we've gotten

00:59:47.100 so much

00:59:47.420 great feedback

00:59:48.360 about it

00:59:48.980 so we asked

00:59:50.180 Jordan just to

00:59:50.740 expand on the

00:59:51.340 issue

00:59:51.620 and he did so

00:59:52.900 in this three

00:59:53.420 part special

00:59:54.040 on marriage

00:59:55.020 you can get it

00:59:55.680 tonight right

00:59:56.300 after the show

00:59:56.840 if you're a

00:59:57.560 member at

00:59:58.140 Daily Wire Plus

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01:00:11.940 and I brought

01:00:12.900 here for sort

01:00:13.920 of a world

01:00:14.580 premiere

01:00:14.820 I hate that

01:00:15.180 Jordan isn't

01:00:15.660 with us for

01:00:16.160 it

01:00:16.340 but we're

01:00:17.580 going to get

01:00:17.800 to see the

01:00:18.180 first minute

01:00:18.740 of the special

01:00:19.900 that's ever

01:00:20.240 been released

01:00:20.740 right now

01:00:21.220 what grows

01:00:23.180 you up

01:00:23.580 responsibility

01:00:24.400 sacrifice

01:00:25.680 a vision

01:00:26.400 of the future

01:00:27.120 and so people

01:00:28.280 grow up

01:00:28.740 when they get

01:00:29.160 married

01:00:29.440 it's probably

01:00:29.980 better to get

01:00:30.740 married when

01:00:31.220 you're young

01:00:31.720 because then

01:00:32.300 you grow up

01:00:33.160 if you're still

01:00:34.140 an adolescent

01:00:34.660 by the time

01:00:35.200 you're 40

01:00:35.700 you're a creep

01:00:36.900 you're the

01:00:38.080 sort of

01:00:38.400 person that

01:00:38.840 you don't

01:00:39.220 even want

01:00:39.580 to be around

01:00:40.160 so you

01:00:42.300 don't want

01:00:42.600 to be the

01:00:42.920 oldest person

01:00:43.600 at the frat

01:00:44.140 party

01:00:44.480 that is not

01:00:45.360 pretty

01:00:45.760 it's

01:00:46.620 there's something

01:00:47.280 rotten about

01:00:48.200 that

01:00:48.540 and I mean

01:00:49.220 in that

01:00:49.600 in that

01:00:50.280 contemptible

01:00:51.000 sense

01:00:51.440 it's

01:00:52.240 it's something

01:00:53.620 that's overstayed

01:00:54.660 it's welcome

01:00:55.360 man

01:00:55.800 and you know

01:00:57.020 people are

01:00:57.520 willing to

01:00:57.980 forgive you

01:00:58.440 your immaturity

01:00:59.000 when you're

01:00:59.400 22 or 23

01:01:00.360 or 28

01:01:01.040 maybe

01:01:01.400 or even

01:01:01.840 30

01:01:02.340 but man

01:01:03.900 if you're

01:01:04.260 still playing

01:01:04.720 that game

01:01:05.120 when you're

01:01:05.420 40

01:01:05.780 you are

01:01:07.860 not a

01:01:08.400 happy person

01:01:09.060 and you're

01:01:09.660 going to be

01:01:10.140 motivated to

01:01:10.840 go out there

01:01:11.280 and make

01:01:11.740 everyone

01:01:12.160 miserable

01:01:12.680 and so

01:01:13.660 grow the

01:01:14.260 hell up

01:01:14.960 but what does

01:01:18.500 he really

01:01:18.800 think

01:01:19.220 don't beat

01:01:20.720 around the

01:01:20.960 book

01:01:21.100 it's such

01:01:21.460 an important

01:01:21.800 topic

01:01:22.160 you know

01:01:22.480 people get

01:01:23.560 married on

01:01:24.140 average like

01:01:24.620 10 years

01:01:25.060 later now

01:01:25.540 than they

01:01:25.840 did

01:01:26.120 it's

01:01:26.320 destroying

01:01:26.580 the country

01:01:27.220 that's

01:01:27.460 right

01:01:27.560 and all

01:01:27.860 of western

01:01:28.180 civilization

01:01:28.700 it really

01:01:29.380 is

01:01:29.580 I mean

01:01:29.760 people aren't

01:01:30.140 having babies

01:01:30.660 he's exactly

01:01:31.360 right

01:01:31.660 people aren't

01:01:32.160 people aren't

01:01:32.500 getting married

01:01:33.020 at an age

01:01:34.060 where they

01:01:34.320 actually are

01:01:34.800 able to

01:01:35.120 grow up

01:01:35.340 with one

01:01:35.720 another

01:01:35.920 because your

01:01:36.300 wife shapes

01:01:36.780 you and you

01:01:37.220 shape her

01:01:37.660 and that makes

01:01:38.200 you both

01:01:38.500 better people

01:01:39.000 you know

01:01:39.800 when I married

01:01:40.580 my wife

01:01:40.960 I was

01:01:41.220 I just

01:01:41.740 turned 24

01:01:42.280 and she

01:01:42.900 was 20

01:01:43.360 and we've

01:01:44.680 spent our

01:01:45.160 lives growing

01:01:45.860 up together

01:01:46.360 right I mean

01:01:46.980 now I'm 38

01:01:47.560 and she's

01:01:49.140 you know

01:01:49.440 35 and

01:01:50.120 that's

01:01:50.780 that's a long

01:01:51.420 time to spend

01:01:51.880 half her life

01:01:53.120 you know

01:01:53.500 basically

01:01:53.880 we've spent

01:01:54.760 together

01:01:55.060 and that means

01:01:56.140 that you grow

01:01:56.680 and you change

01:01:57.260 and you have

01:01:57.560 experiences

01:01:58.000 and then you bring

01:02:00.140 to even more

01:02:00.640 than just the

01:02:01.080 marriage

01:02:01.380 and when

01:02:02.480 Jordan says

01:02:03.540 that if you're

01:02:04.240 40 and single

01:02:04.960 you're blowing it

01:02:05.560 he is cutting

01:02:06.040 directly against

01:02:06.720 the grain

01:02:07.080 of all current

01:02:07.920 conventional wisdom

01:02:08.680 which is the

01:02:09.100 best thing

01:02:09.400 that you can do

01:02:09.940 is delay marriage

01:02:10.720 and delay marriage

01:02:11.460 until you make

01:02:12.240 associate at the

01:02:12.880 law firm

01:02:13.220 working 2200 hours

01:02:14.540 well now they say

01:02:16.000 grow up and then

01:02:16.840 get married

01:02:17.360 and in the past

01:02:18.340 they said get

01:02:18.860 married and grow up

01:02:19.940 so that you can

01:02:20.800 grow up

01:02:21.200 my dad used to

01:02:21.980 make a point about

01:02:22.500 this he used to

01:02:22.960 say people would

01:02:23.900 ask him about

01:02:24.500 when to get

01:02:25.040 married and he

01:02:25.960 said well or

01:02:26.820 how to find the

01:02:27.260 right person

01:02:27.680 and what he always

01:02:28.320 said is you have

01:02:28.680 to make the

01:02:28.940 decision to get

01:02:29.600 married before

01:02:30.100 you find the

01:02:30.600 right person

01:02:31.000 because if you

01:02:32.080 didn't make the

01:02:32.520 decision that you

01:02:33.020 wanted to get

01:02:33.440 married then the

01:02:34.220 right person could

01:02:34.700 come along and

01:02:35.180 you could just

01:02:35.540 come out of the

01:02:37.120 water you actually

01:02:37.560 have to make the

01:02:38.100 cut like we live

01:02:38.800 in a society where

01:02:39.400 we sort of decide

01:02:40.160 the opposite

01:02:40.540 I'll fall in love

01:02:41.420 with the person

01:02:41.900 and then we'll

01:02:42.520 have sex and

01:02:43.320 then maybe like

01:02:43.800 four years down

01:02:44.400 the road we'll

01:02:44.760 get married we

01:02:45.440 completely reverse

01:02:46.060 the polarity and

01:02:47.320 the order of

01:02:48.060 events look at the

01:02:48.780 sitcoms from the

01:02:49.380 90s versus the

01:02:50.060 sitcoms from the

01:02:50.680 60s right in the

01:02:51.340 60s it was you

01:02:52.460 fall in love you get

01:02:53.400 married you have sex

01:02:54.380 now it's you have

01:02:55.780 sex and then it's

01:02:58.940 a big move in a

01:02:59.540 sitcom now is did

01:03:00.820 you fall in love

01:03:01.220 and then you never

01:03:01.600 get married I mean

01:03:02.160 marriage is so

01:03:03.140 past marriage is the

01:03:04.480 series finale you

01:03:05.680 know there's a

01:03:06.040 there's another

01:03:06.440 aspect of this which

01:03:07.380 is that as we

01:03:08.700 delay the onset of

01:03:10.580 adulthood the left

01:03:12.520 also wants to

01:03:13.400 reduce the age of

01:03:14.420 things like voting

01:03:15.140 you know I don't

01:03:16.780 think 18 year olds

01:03:17.640 today should be able

01:03:18.420 to vote is the

01:03:19.440 honest truth and

01:03:20.340 you could say well

01:03:20.880 you're saying that

01:03:21.480 people should be

01:03:21.900 able to serve in

01:03:22.440 the military and

01:03:23.040 they shouldn't be

01:03:23.500 able to vote well

01:03:24.120 I'll let those ones

01:03:24.860 vote because they're

01:03:25.660 doing something that

01:03:26.400 grows you up called

01:03:27.060 joining the military

01:03:27.640 but no I'm

01:03:28.940 the whole point of

01:03:29.940 having a voting age

01:03:30.760 is that we don't

01:03:31.200 want children voting

01:03:32.060 children aren't

01:03:33.100 mature they don't

01:03:33.780 have stakes they

01:03:34.400 don't understand the

01:03:35.040 stakes that they do

01:03:35.640 have so we don't

01:03:36.620 want it you know

01:03:37.160 Matt Matt got in a

01:03:38.200 little bit of trouble

01:03:38.720 for some comments

01:03:39.820 that he made back

01:03:40.320 when he was a shock

01:03:40.920 jock about at what

01:03:42.840 age people should

01:03:43.440 have sex and I

01:03:46.040 don't want to I

01:03:47.120 don't want to rehash

01:03:47.860 all the terrain except

01:03:48.780 to say that it is

01:03:50.360 at what age they

01:03:51.640 should get married

01:03:52.120 it is thank you it

01:03:53.300 is absolutely the case

01:03:54.580 that for the vast

01:03:55.600 majority of human

01:03:56.740 history people who

01:03:58.160 were of the age of

01:03:59.560 sexual maturity were

01:04:00.580 considered candidates

01:04:01.300 for marriage we all

01:04:02.800 agree now that that

01:04:04.060 cannot possibly be the

01:04:05.160 standard because you're

01:04:06.740 still a kid for so long

01:04:07.740 the reason it's it's

01:04:09.380 creepy for people to get

01:04:11.240 married super young now

01:04:12.280 because we know because

01:04:13.920 it cuts against everything

01:04:14.920 that we think about the

01:04:16.280 maturing process and the

01:04:17.300 age at which people

01:04:17.920 should be mature and in

01:04:20.680 some ways that's a

01:04:21.520 byproduct of our success

01:04:22.520 right we've been very

01:04:23.200 successful as a species

01:04:24.160 we we can protect

01:04:26.160 people younger we

01:04:26.900 don't have to shove

01:04:27.360 you out in the field

01:04:28.000 to work to work in the

01:04:29.880 sun when you're nine

01:04:30.620 years old we don't

01:04:31.940 have to put those

01:04:32.580 responsibilities your

01:04:33.060 life expectancy isn't

01:04:33.800 35 life expectancy

01:04:35.000 isn't 35 and so I

01:04:36.300 don't want to make it

01:04:36.840 sound as though every

01:04:37.760 aspect of that of that

01:04:39.140 progress that we've had

01:04:40.280 is bad but the the

01:04:44.220 fact that we say that

01:04:45.200 one should not grow up

01:04:46.660 or that they or that

01:04:47.460 marriage isn't an

01:04:48.080 instrumental part of the

01:04:49.260 process of growing up I

01:04:50.120 do think it's it used

01:04:51.000 to be that we said okay

01:04:52.180 we'll delay adulthood

01:04:52.940 right adulthood isn't

01:04:53.960 when you're 14 my my

01:04:55.240 wife's grandmother got

01:04:56.820 married to 14 in

01:04:57.440 Morocco right almost all

01:04:59.020 of our great-grandparents

01:04:59.860 probably the Virgin Mary

01:05:00.980 was probably 15 I mean

01:05:02.720 like the but we don't do

01:05:04.560 that anymore and but

01:05:05.280 real adulthood sets in

01:05:06.400 when you're 18 right and

01:05:07.680 now real adulthood sets in

01:05:09.040 after death that's the

01:05:10.600 idea in our society is

01:05:12.660 not to push back the

01:05:13.580 line a little bit so

01:05:14.620 that you actually have a

01:05:15.360 little bit more brain

01:05:15.880 development and can make

01:05:16.740 better decisions about

01:05:17.700 your values the idea is

01:05:19.020 obliterate the line so it

01:05:20.360 doesn't exist well the

01:05:21.120 problem with that goes

01:05:22.160 both ways one is

01:05:22.920 that you are

01:05:23.500 obliterating adulthood

01:05:24.700 so that you have fully

01:05:25.980 grown adults who are

01:05:26.480 acting like children the

01:05:27.420 other is if there's no

01:05:28.020 distinction between

01:05:28.880 adults and children then

01:05:30.100 you can start treating

01:05:30.720 children like adults

01:05:31.580 right and this is this is

01:05:32.980 what you're currently

01:05:33.500 seeing with the trans

01:05:34.680 movement the next thing

01:05:36.180 that's going to happen

01:05:36.700 again I think we are

01:05:38.120 living in that meme you

01:05:39.220 know that the slippery

01:05:39.780 slope meme we did a

01:05:40.860 whole podcast on this

01:05:41.680 last week the slippery

01:05:42.800 slope meme that shows

01:05:43.480 the slippery slope and

01:05:44.500 it shows no it's not

01:05:46.580 going to happen it's not

01:05:47.220 going to happen it's not

01:05:47.820 going to happen and

01:05:48.580 then the bottom there's

01:05:49.220 an arrow says you are

01:05:49.880 here yeah right and

01:05:50.840 that's exactly what it is

01:05:51.920 right I mean they keep

01:05:52.760 saying it's not going to

01:05:53.420 happen it's just it's a

01:05:54.300 it's never going to happen

01:05:55.220 we're never going to do

01:05:55.820 that well you guys are

01:05:57.820 currently making the

01:05:58.460 argument that a five-year-old

01:05:59.700 is capable of choosing

01:06:00.600 his gender so I'm going to

01:06:02.600 need you to explain how

01:06:03.540 it's okay for a five-year-old

01:06:04.440 to choose his his gender

01:06:05.780 for the rest of his life

01:06:06.960 but that child is not capable

01:06:09.420 of sexual choice somebody

01:06:11.000 somebody like I do by the

01:06:12.300 way I don't think a child

01:06:12.940 is capable of either so

01:06:13.880 I'm consistent so I'm

01:06:14.780 asking you why don't you

01:06:15.860 be consistent explain to

01:06:16.940 me how what you're saying

01:06:17.940 is that we're chopping off

01:06:18.940 their dicks at the age of

01:06:19.920 16 yeah but they're not

01:06:21.140 able what you're saying

01:06:21.860 is that we're on the

01:06:22.580 verge of the moment when

01:06:23.840 the left tries to say

01:06:24.860 that children can engage

01:06:26.820 in sex with adults

01:06:27.720 essentially yes I mean

01:06:28.860 and what they're going to

01:06:30.200 do is it's happening

01:06:30.940 also that very movement

01:06:32.660 oh 100% and what it'll

01:06:34.080 start with it'll start

01:06:34.800 with what they've

01:06:35.480 already started to do

01:06:36.140 this is sort of these

01:06:36.700 Romeo and Juliet laws

01:06:37.700 right it'll start with

01:06:38.460 it's okay for a 15-year-old

01:06:39.960 to have sex with a 13-year-old

01:06:40.880 what's really the problem

01:06:41.620 and then it'll be what

01:06:42.140 was 16 so bad and then

01:06:43.460 I was like what is 18 so

01:06:44.520 bad I mean there's so

01:06:45.200 I mean just just why I

01:06:46.040 disagree with you about

01:06:46.840 grooming I think they are

01:06:47.820 grooming children for

01:06:48.760 sexuality that that is

01:06:50.260 their that is their

01:06:51.860 definition of identity

01:06:52.860 well but is it that

01:06:54.000 you're disagreeing or

01:06:54.840 you're just you're

01:06:55.720 discussing the two sides

01:06:56.880 of the very same thing

01:06:57.820 which is you're

01:06:58.480 describing the physical

01:06:59.280 enactment of it you're

01:07:00.540 describing the metaphysical

01:07:01.400 version of it but but

01:07:02.380 the whole point is

01:07:03.000 they're kind of the same

01:07:04.560 you know they're kind of

01:07:05.500 intertwined by the way

01:07:06.440 by the way what you

01:07:07.640 talked about about

01:07:08.260 growing up in a marriage

01:07:10.300 is doubly important

01:07:12.760 because you're growing

01:07:13.500 up with a woman yes you

01:07:14.880 know I mean I I married

01:07:17.420 my wife like most people

01:07:18.600 marry their wife because

01:07:19.200 she was hot she was

01:07:19.900 beautiful she was fun she

01:07:20.920 was smart she was all

01:07:21.840 those things that really

01:07:23.300 attracted but it wasn't

01:07:24.320 till about 10 years after

01:07:26.220 we had been together when

01:07:27.600 I started to think like oh

01:07:29.340 you know like for the

01:07:30.520 first 10 years I was

01:07:31.220 thinking well of course

01:07:31.880 she has no capacity for

01:07:32.860 reason you know she's I

01:07:34.020 don't understand a word

01:07:34.960 she said but then I

01:07:35.720 kept noticing that she

01:07:36.480 was right a lot of the

01:07:37.520 time when she I couldn't

01:07:39.380 understand it I started to

01:07:40.600 think oh she's actually

01:07:41.520 seeing the world from a

01:07:43.120 different point of view and

01:07:44.160 that is like putting on

01:07:45.320 those red and blue

01:07:45.940 glasses that suddenly turn

01:07:47.540 the world into three

01:07:48.360 dimensions you're

01:07:49.240 suddenly become one

01:07:50.340 flesh one person and you

01:07:52.400 see things in a new and

01:07:53.780 deeper and richer way and

01:07:55.680 that to me transforms

01:07:56.960 everything yeah because you

01:07:58.560 know I'm never going to

01:07:59.400 stop being a guy she's

01:08:00.440 never going to stop being a

01:08:01.320 girl she's the girliest

01:08:02.260 girl I know I'm a very

01:08:03.540 guy like guy but but now

01:08:05.880 I live in a in a unity of

01:08:08.320 male female that actually

01:08:10.380 transforms everything into

01:08:12.060 reality into a reality you

01:08:13.880 don't see before and the

01:08:15.000 other the other advantage

01:08:15.960 getting you know it's kind

01:08:17.220 of like the is marriage the

01:08:18.760 cornerstone of adulthood or

01:08:20.360 the capstone and the

01:08:22.140 advantage to it being the

01:08:23.220 cornerstone of young

01:08:24.020 adulthood is that as you

01:08:25.420 said you're you're you're

01:08:26.720 building a life together and

01:08:28.260 existence together as

01:08:29.340 opposed to let's get

01:08:30.700 married when we're 35 or

01:08:31.620 40 and now I have I have

01:08:33.560 all of my own stuff yes

01:08:35.600 I have every everything is

01:08:37.000 mine I have my own my own

01:08:38.120 life my own money this is

01:08:39.300 all mine and now you are

01:08:40.940 coming into this thing that

01:08:42.060 I have built without you

01:08:43.160 and by the way all these

01:08:43.760 and all your own

01:08:44.220 experiences and all the

01:08:45.060 crap from your past right

01:08:46.160 which which you see really

01:08:46.980 break up marriages people

01:08:47.880 come in with all these

01:08:48.660 terrible experiences they've

01:08:49.540 already had with members of

01:08:50.260 the opposite sex and then

01:08:51.120 they get married and

01:08:52.120 they're already heavily

01:08:52.640 shaped and that's why we

01:08:53.560 hear so much about well

01:08:54.540 you know at the root of a

01:08:56.520 lot of divorces is money

01:08:57.540 and I guess that's the case

01:08:58.920 but for someone like

01:08:59.600 myself I got married young

01:09:00.680 I I can't even imagine

01:09:02.500 why that would be the

01:09:03.120 case we don't have any

01:09:03.760 money issues in my

01:09:04.580 marriage because all the

01:09:05.980 money I make the money

01:09:07.780 but it's it's our money

01:09:08.900 it's in a joint bank

01:09:09.460 account like it was in a

01:09:10.400 joint bank account

01:09:10.880 literally the day we got

01:09:11.660 married and I'm all and

01:09:12.900 I'm also aware because I

01:09:14.460 have as I've been growing

01:09:16.960 and building my career and

01:09:18.200 all that I've had my my

01:09:19.460 wife with me and none of

01:09:20.420 this would have happened

01:09:20.960 without her so it's very

01:09:21.960 clear to me one of the

01:09:23.160 things that this is

01:09:23.660 something we did together

01:09:24.220 for I think all of us so

01:09:25.720 I think none of us were

01:09:26.820 either rich or famous

01:09:28.040 some of us are still not

01:09:28.740 rich or famous but but

01:09:30.100 for for those of us who

01:09:30.900 are both wealthy and

01:09:32.100 famous for I think all of

01:09:33.700 us were married to our

01:09:34.620 spouses long before we had

01:09:35.860 any of those things and

01:09:37.020 that is a wonderful thing

01:09:38.180 it's a wonderful thing

01:09:39.060 it allows you married a

01:09:40.540 writer you know like that

01:09:41.540 I mean but the fact that

01:09:43.700 your spouse can still look

01:09:44.680 at you and this is what

01:09:45.820 you're saying you know if

01:09:46.580 you if the marriage

01:09:47.900 happens late this can't

01:09:48.840 happen the fact that my

01:09:49.720 wife can still look at me

01:09:50.460 as the person who you know

01:09:52.060 was 23 and just out of

01:09:53.460 law school and she can

01:09:54.600 say I see through all this

01:09:55.540 crap right like none of

01:09:56.300 this makes a bit of

01:09:57.260 difference to me right

01:09:58.400 the person who you are is

01:09:59.540 not the person who the

01:10:00.620 rest of the world sees it's

01:10:01.540 the person who I've known

01:10:02.900 since long before you were

01:10:03.900 that to the rest of the

01:10:04.960 world that's an amazing

01:10:05.920 thing it also gives you the

01:10:06.840 ability to have somebody

01:10:07.880 who calls you on your

01:10:08.400 bullshit which is like an

01:10:09.180 actual real thing once you

01:10:10.700 get you know to a certain

01:10:11.620 level of power people just

01:10:12.720 are really really afraid to

01:10:14.360 call you on your bullshit

01:10:15.060 and and having a group of

01:10:16.500 people whether it's

01:10:17.340 friends or particularly your

01:10:18.500 wife who's able to do

01:10:19.420 that is vital because if

01:10:20.980 you don't have that you

01:10:21.700 spin off the rails

01:10:22.400 incredibly fast yeah it

01:10:24.740 actually didn't occur to

01:10:25.780 me until you said that

01:10:26.560 that I think every single

01:10:27.780 one of us got married

01:10:28.740 relatively broke

01:10:30.400 yeah at least you're

01:10:31.980 right I think every

01:10:32.540 single one of us did

01:10:33.180 totally totally and it

01:10:34.140 did I have noticed too

01:10:35.700 that the harshest critic

01:10:37.400 and kind of best shaper of

01:10:39.280 my show is sweet little

01:10:41.080 Elisa where I'll have

01:10:42.200 something that I'm going

01:10:43.020 to do on the show or in

01:10:43.700 a speech or something

01:10:44.140 where I think it's

01:10:44.880 absolute dynamite and

01:10:46.520 you know Mike that it

01:10:48.340 just it just doesn't work

01:10:49.940 I'm sorry no I think no

01:10:52.680 but it actually now you're

01:10:53.700 right you're right she's

01:10:54.400 always right that's kind

01:10:55.140 of what we're talking

01:10:55.480 about with with Fetterman

01:10:56.740 is is that I think a

01:10:58.920 good wife is is your

01:11:01.080 number one fan she's

01:11:02.220 rooting for you she

01:11:02.980 really believes in you

01:11:03.980 and believes in your

01:11:04.760 your dreams and your

01:11:05.880 aspirations because you're

01:11:06.660 her number one fan also

01:11:07.460 right exactly but but

01:11:08.540 she also you know I

01:11:10.360 think as men we need a

01:11:11.340 woman to let us know

01:11:12.860 we're biting off more

01:11:13.680 than we can chew when

01:11:14.460 we when we've hatched

01:11:15.240 because as men we're

01:11:16.160 going to hatch all kinds

01:11:16.960 of crazy schemes and

01:11:17.840 plans I know that I do

01:11:18.640 anyway and and you need

01:11:20.340 a woman there to because

01:11:21.280 she could see that

01:11:21.900 blind spot and she's

01:11:22.820 gonna tell you well

01:11:23.280 that's that's not gonna

01:11:24.000 work whereas I think

01:11:24.820 for men on the other

01:11:25.660 hand this is my gender

01:11:27.820 stereotypical way of

01:11:28.640 looking at it is that you

01:11:29.700 know I rely on my wife

01:11:31.080 to let me know when I've

01:11:32.340 got some idea some plan

01:11:33.680 that's just like utterly

01:11:34.580 self-destructive it's

01:11:35.400 gonna destroy the whole

01:11:35.940 family

01:11:36.260 but by the way that

01:11:38.180 last sentence is the

01:11:39.060 key right with that last

01:11:39.980 part of the sentence

01:11:40.380 that it's gonna destroy

01:11:40.940 the whole family because

01:11:42.020 my wife tends to think

01:11:43.580 in terms of the effect

01:11:45.060 on the family right as a

01:11:46.780 man my my main thing is

01:11:48.360 like how what is my

01:11:49.220 effect on the world

01:11:49.780 I mean I literally do

01:11:50.480 that for a living what

01:11:51.120 is my effect on the

01:11:51.760 world what's my effect

01:11:52.520 on society what's my

01:11:53.420 effect on the people

01:11:53.940 who listen to the show

01:11:54.620 and so I'll try to

01:11:55.700 overcommit okay I want

01:11:56.740 to get all these things

01:11:57.480 done right I mean there's

01:11:58.040 so much to do before you

01:11:58.800 die right you got to get

01:11:59.940 out there you got to

01:12:00.420 travel you got to change

01:12:01.180 people you got to do

01:12:01.740 all this and my wife will

01:12:02.440 say yes but what about

01:12:03.420 the kids you know like do

01:12:04.560 you want to be away for

01:12:05.520 that night do you want to

01:12:06.160 be do you want to be able

01:12:06.800 to put the kids in bed

01:12:07.580 well I want you to finish

01:12:09.440 that thought yeah well

01:12:10.520 so I think on the other

01:12:11.580 side so that's that's

01:12:12.260 what we rely on on women

01:12:13.660 for I think on the other

01:12:15.300 hand as men you know

01:12:17.000 we women will tend to

01:12:19.620 get involved in you

01:12:20.920 know they might get

01:12:21.520 involved in personal

01:12:22.400 feuds and take things

01:12:23.460 very personally and and

01:12:25.060 have a have a tendency

01:12:26.160 to overreact in those

01:12:27.400 sorts of situations and

01:12:29.020 that's where men can be

01:12:30.480 the voice of reason and

01:12:31.300 say well I don't think

01:12:32.400 they really meant it

01:12:32.980 like that I don't think

01:12:33.740 that's exactly what now

01:12:34.780 it doesn't mean that

01:12:35.180 women are going to

01:12:35.540 listen all the time but

01:12:36.380 I do think that's the

01:12:37.300 kind of we're both that

01:12:38.360 we can both be the voice

01:12:39.360 of reason and calm for

01:12:40.520 each other in these

01:12:41.800 different situations and

01:12:42.780 see each other's blind

01:12:43.520 spots well we actually

01:12:44.760 have an explicit deal

01:12:45.760 with my wife which is

01:12:46.520 neither of us is allowed

01:12:47.280 to be we can we're not

01:12:48.020 allowed to be grumpy at

01:12:48.540 the same time we have

01:12:49.480 to take turns we'll

01:12:50.640 balance it out I'll

01:12:51.320 literally be like it's

01:12:52.060 my turn to be grumpy I

01:12:52.960 get to be grumpy right

01:12:53.680 now and she'll go okay

01:12:54.580 all right and then when

01:12:56.080 it's time for her to be

01:12:56.680 grumpy then I'll say okay

01:12:57.540 you know what you're

01:12:58.340 right it's your turn to

01:12:58.940 be grumpy and you do

01:13:00.380 need that balance and

01:13:01.220 again the differences

01:13:01.900 between men and women

01:13:02.560 are not only beautiful

01:13:04.180 they are vital and

01:13:05.460 pretending that those

01:13:06.080 differences are of no

01:13:07.360 consequence whatsoever and

01:13:09.180 that other alternative

01:13:09.880 forms of family

01:13:10.660 structure are therefore

01:13:11.480 equivalent in any way at

01:13:12.820 all they're

01:13:13.540 different they're

01:13:14.440 they're different I

01:13:15.320 mean there's no other

01:13:15.900 way to put this is why

01:13:17.080 I mean to both of these

01:13:18.220 points this is why the

01:13:19.900 the personal is the

01:13:20.900 political is so powerful

01:13:21.940 one it obviously came

01:13:23.640 from the feminists

01:13:24.380 because women tend to

01:13:25.900 be more personally

01:13:26.620 focused and

01:13:27.720 traditionally women took

01:13:28.860 care of the private

01:13:29.500 part of life and men

01:13:30.860 were more public

01:13:32.040 facing and more more

01:13:33.080 interested in the

01:13:33.540 political side and so

01:13:34.780 it's no surprise that

01:13:35.640 the feminists would then

01:13:36.560 seek to meld those two

01:13:37.880 but then it's it's

01:13:38.840 obviously the case that

01:13:40.480 the personal is the

01:13:41.780 political you know the

01:13:42.520 country is just made up

01:13:43.620 of people and of our

01:13:44.820 personal lives and so

01:13:45.920 we think of marriage as

01:13:46.840 being private well if

01:13:48.140 if if marriage becomes

01:13:49.820 completely distorted

01:13:51.140 that's obviously going to

01:13:52.580 have political effects and

01:13:53.620 you've seen that play out

01:13:54.420 now for 60 years it's

01:13:55.680 also amazing to me that

01:13:57.360 the left has managed to

01:13:58.320 take what is for most of

01:13:59.760 us the central

01:14:00.920 consolation of tragic life

01:14:02.700 yes and make it as they

01:14:04.380 say problematical I mean I

01:14:05.880 was just read you know I

01:14:06.820 was looking you know how

01:14:07.740 you have those things that

01:14:08.560 come up pop up on your

01:14:09.520 thing you might want to

01:14:10.360 look at this and it's just

01:14:11.080 clickbait and I fell for

01:14:13.160 it and I was reading some

01:14:14.120 buzzfeed thing about you

01:14:15.440 know tweets in marriage or

01:14:16.980 tweets about marriage and

01:14:18.360 it was all this kind of

01:14:19.280 low you know bathroom

01:14:21.800 humor is all about oh you

01:14:23.320 know now we're so intimate

01:14:24.320 we're in the bathroom

01:14:25.000 together all this stuff I

01:14:26.260 thought I don't do that I

01:14:28.020 live with a lady man I

01:14:29.400 don't treat her I don't

01:14:30.980 treat her like my sister you

01:14:32.160 know I treat her like my

01:14:33.340 wife you know went to the

01:14:34.120 bathroom with your sister

01:14:34.960 what's that I said you went

01:14:38.060 to the bathroom with your

01:14:38.920 sister I didn't have a

01:14:42.380 sister I probably would

01:14:43.180 have spied on her but no

01:14:45.700 I mean you know this is

01:14:46.700 this is actually the joy of

01:14:48.660 every day of every day that

01:14:50.240 you are living with a woman

01:14:51.600 which is one of the fun

01:14:52.740 happy things of life it's a

01:14:54.600 celebratory thing to your

01:14:55.960 point too because this came

01:14:57.460 up in my in our members

01:14:59.080 block I've got an email from

01:15:03.080 a from a guy I don't think

01:15:04.460 he's a leftist at all in fact

01:15:05.320 I know he's not and and but

01:15:07.420 he was of this you know

01:15:08.680 certain certain frame of

01:15:10.480 mind that well we're just

01:15:11.660 going to give up on you

01:15:12.620 know men should just give

01:15:13.260 up on marriage it's a

01:15:13.940 losing game it doesn't it

01:15:15.640 doesn't work it's it's the

01:15:17.080 system's rigged against us

01:15:18.040 go your own way family

01:15:19.160 courts are rigged against

01:15:19.980 us and all that and and

01:15:21.240 then he reveals at the end

01:15:22.060 that you know he apparently

01:15:23.420 he was married and it didn't

01:15:24.400 work out and you know you

01:15:25.840 don't have sex anymore when

01:15:26.860 you get married all this

01:15:27.500 kind of stuff and so he had

01:15:28.820 a negative experience with

01:15:29.500 he's projecting it on to

01:15:30.540 everybody else saying this is

01:15:31.660 how it's going to be for

01:15:32.220 everybody younger men hear

01:15:33.800 this and they take it to

01:15:34.860 heart when of course our

01:15:36.640 message has to be well

01:15:37.340 that was his experience

01:15:37.980 doesn't have to be

01:15:38.420 everyone's but also it's

01:15:40.740 important to have the

01:15:41.400 message that what you're

01:15:42.780 articulating there are

01:15:43.940 there are risks in

01:15:44.780 marriage and some of that

01:15:46.480 is just the nature of the

01:15:48.240 beast it's human nature

01:15:49.160 some of it is built into

01:15:50.460 our system I mean I think

01:15:51.400 the family courts are

01:15:52.080 rigged against against men

01:15:53.880 it is a risk but it's it's

01:15:56.540 a it's a risk worth taking

01:15:58.140 because of what you get

01:15:59.020 out you know I have a

01:15:59.480 solution to this this is

01:16:00.780 the Knowles prenup because

01:16:02.580 I've I know people's

01:16:04.000 marriages who have broken

01:16:04.720 down and the main reason

01:16:05.720 they break down is

01:16:06.780 because they two people

01:16:08.260 go in with a completely

01:16:09.200 different understanding of

01:16:10.300 marriage and so naturally

01:16:11.620 it's going to break down

01:16:12.520 so sometimes people write

01:16:13.820 in I don't want to get a

01:16:14.940 prenup because I have

01:16:16.060 this you know sacred

01:16:17.340 traditional view of

01:16:18.000 marriage but I don't know

01:16:18.980 these days the courts are

01:16:20.000 rigged against men and we

01:16:20.940 got our own stuff and

01:16:21.860 blah blah blah whatever so

01:16:23.020 the Knowles prenup is this

01:16:24.340 when you both have the

01:16:25.960 same idea of marriage and

01:16:27.180 you're both committed to

01:16:28.020 it you sign a prenup saying

01:16:29.740 okay whoever breaks up the

01:16:32.280 marriage whoever wants out

01:16:33.220 of the marriage forfeits

01:16:34.560 everything forfeits the

01:16:35.900 money forfeits the house

01:16:36.980 forfeits the kids forfeits

01:16:38.480 everything maybe you have

01:16:39.220 a few exceptions and some

01:16:40.400 kind of crazy but that's

01:16:41.800 domestic abuse or what you

01:16:43.800 know but you know you have

01:16:44.900 these little carve outs but

01:16:45.860 you say okay that's my I

01:16:47.480 think that would be a way

01:16:48.360 to use the legal system

01:16:49.460 that's rigged against

01:16:50.120 marriage to help save

01:16:51.220 marriage was always a

01:16:51.880 contract right right I

01:16:53.100 mean like it's literally in

01:16:54.140 in Judaism what got me

01:16:55.520 married is called the

01:16:56.260 ketubah it's literally a

01:16:57.400 contract it is framed it is

01:16:58.680 in my house okay the

01:16:59.640 ketubah is written in

01:17:00.580 Aramaic and it specifies

01:17:01.660 things like my duties to

01:17:03.640 her and her duties to me

01:17:04.740 and these things include

01:17:05.680 like providing for the

01:17:06.600 family a sex life like

01:17:07.800 these like the basic

01:17:09.000 things of marriage but

01:17:09.840 we've been we become so

01:17:10.800 individualized that even

01:17:11.980 the things that everybody

01:17:12.660 understood are part of

01:17:13.340 marriage are no longer

01:17:14.000 considered part of

01:17:14.660 marriage right like

01:17:15.580 Dennis Prager got himself

01:17:16.380 in all sorts of hot water

01:17:17.300 I remember a few years ago

01:17:18.260 for suggesting that in a

01:17:19.540 marriage a woman has

01:17:20.480 responsibility to have

01:17:21.260 sex with her husband oh

01:17:22.160 my god they did this to

01:17:23.000 my sister-in-law Caitlin

01:17:24.260 they right how dare you

01:17:27.040 say no there is never an

01:17:29.040 obligation to have sex well

01:17:30.260 I mean okay then there's

01:17:30.880 not an obligation for the

01:17:32.040 marriage to continue I

01:17:32.820 mean like that's that's

01:17:33.720 obviously conjugal duties are

01:17:35.500 part of of marriage they

01:17:36.840 always have been in fact one

01:17:38.300 of the chief draws of

01:17:39.540 marriage was the conjugal

01:17:40.620 duties yeah from the very

01:17:41.740 beginning and the bible

01:17:42.480 actually explicitly says not

01:17:44.500 to withhold yourselves from

01:17:45.480 one of them I mean again

01:17:46.500 like this this notion that

01:17:48.220 you only have sex when you

01:17:49.940 are in just the greatest

01:17:51.120 possible mood then no one

01:17:52.480 would ever have sex pretty

01:17:53.140 much ever except for dudes

01:17:54.140 right I mean like that's

01:17:54.800 that's just the way that it

01:17:55.880 would work but it's but

01:17:56.900 it's it's an absurdity that's

01:17:58.300 been pressed forward by the

01:17:59.220 radical individualism that

01:18:00.540 we've been talking about so

01:18:01.960 far all along the way

01:18:03.120 there's something else when

01:18:03.740 it comes to marriage also and

01:18:04.760 that of course is is the the

01:18:06.820 the fact that you said that

01:18:07.680 it's one of the great

01:18:08.220 consolations in the face of

01:18:09.480 tragic life well the greatest

01:18:10.720 consolation in the face of

01:18:11.700 tragic life is marriage

01:18:12.820 because it produces children

01:18:13.860 which is the challenge to

01:18:14.720 death right the way that you

01:18:15.820 overcome death as human

01:18:17.040 beings is you have future

01:18:18.160 generations and this is

01:18:19.060 clearly laid out in

01:18:20.100 Genesis this is perfectly

01:18:21.280 obvious okay when you look

01:18:22.700 at the story of Genesis it's

01:18:23.680 so beautiful right when you

01:18:24.460 look at the very beginning of

01:18:25.180 the book of Genesis and it

01:18:26.600 talks about a man shall leave

01:18:28.460 his family and he shall

01:18:29.280 leave to his wife and

01:18:29.880 they'll become one flesh at

01:18:31.060 the very beginning it talks

01:18:31.640 about Adam and Eve Eve

01:18:33.080 doesn't have a name at the

01:18:35.140 beginning she's just woman

01:18:36.220 for the first several

01:18:37.060 chapters of the Bible she's

01:18:38.140 just woman right he's Adam

01:18:39.880 his name doesn't change

01:18:40.720 she's Adam which just means

01:18:42.120 man and she's and she's

01:18:44.000 Isha right she's woman the

01:18:45.760 only time that she gets a

01:18:46.640 name is when she has a kid

01:18:47.360 once she has a kid he

01:18:48.780 renames her and he why

01:18:49.580 because she's the mother of

01:18:50.280 all living right Eve is the

01:18:51.840 mother of all that's when

01:18:52.600 she loses his sense of her up

01:18:54.480 until that point she's just

01:18:55.420 my other half right she's just

01:18:56.480 my complimentary half she's

01:18:57.820 not an actual individual

01:18:58.740 who's worth respecting as a

01:19:00.700 different person then she

01:19:02.660 has kids and suddenly I see

01:19:03.720 her as as something else

01:19:05.220 this is one of the most

01:19:05.780 amazing things about this

01:19:06.940 book by Judith Butler this

01:19:08.080 gender trouble I don't think

01:19:09.540 there's a single mention of

01:19:10.820 motherhood in the entire

01:19:11.940 book and I kept thinking I

01:19:13.420 kept thinking you know this

01:19:14.540 is this idea that there's no

01:19:15.800 such thing as a telos there's

01:19:16.980 no such thing as a purpose to

01:19:18.140 anything it's all this kind

01:19:19.300 of random thing that just

01:19:20.740 unfolds but if sex has any

01:19:23.060 purpose and of course it does

01:19:24.480 why would we have it it's to

01:19:25.800 create it's also like if you

01:19:27.000 wrote a book about Superman

01:19:28.000 you don't mention that he

01:19:28.760 can fly ever like it never

01:19:30.560 it's exactly right I think

01:19:32.460 like well that that is kind

01:19:34.160 of a defining factor of why

01:19:36.380 we're here together and what

01:19:37.700 happened that's it they've

01:19:38.500 obliterated but they've

01:19:39.200 obliterated the meaning of

01:19:39.920 that Dylan Mulvaney did an

01:19:41.060 entire video for Ulta talking

01:19:42.940 about how he can be a mother

01:19:44.180 no no you effing can no you

01:19:47.880 cannot I want to talk about

01:19:49.020 this point that you made

01:19:49.860 though that we all were broke

01:19:50.900 when we got married because

01:19:52.740 that actually is I think there

01:19:55.180 are so many lies put forward in

01:19:56.980 the culture about marriage and

01:19:58.220 most of the lies target men but

01:20:00.500 not all of the lies there are a

01:20:02.180 bunch of terrible lies on social

01:20:03.600 media that target women and

01:20:04.680 women perpetuate them and I

01:20:06.220 hate them all this like it's

01:20:07.660 wine 30 kind of bullshit that you

01:20:09.380 see everywhere in in in woman

01:20:11.880 culture I hate it because it

01:20:13.540 essentially says that being being

01:20:15.940 a wife and a mother is something

01:20:17.220 that you need to basically drown

01:20:18.820 out that it's just miserable and

01:20:20.420 misery and terrible it's awful but

01:20:22.720 but a lot of the cultural lies

01:20:24.220 are aimed at men you will have

01:20:26.900 less sex when you get married

01:20:28.140 people married never have sex

01:20:29.340 that's a lot the only people who

01:20:30.740 have sex are married what are you

01:20:32.880 talking it is true that you will

01:20:34.520 have sex with fewer distinct

01:20:36.680 humans hopefully yeah hopefully

01:20:38.380 once you're married unless you

01:20:40.040 although by the way today that

01:20:41.560 ain't even true given the rise of

01:20:43.100 pornography to go back to our

01:20:44.180 conversation from last time that

01:20:45.260 probably ain't true but it is

01:20:47.560 certainly the case that on average

01:20:49.580 married people have far far far

01:20:51.920 more sex but because they have a

01:20:55.360 partner to whom they have

01:20:56.220 obligations you'll have less

01:20:58.640 money you get so much richer once

01:21:00.880 you're married and have

01:21:01.480 obligation the thing about men is

01:21:04.760 that men only only want as much as

01:21:06.880 they need basically when they're

01:21:08.120 single that's that's the that's

01:21:10.240 true it's true it's why you walk

01:21:12.380 into a man's apartment and it's

01:21:13.460 like a box with a TV on it and a

01:21:15.020 toaster that's right totally it's

01:21:16.680 when you have responsibilities that

01:21:18.120 you begin to earn yes I was dead

01:21:19.580 broke when I got married and I've

01:21:22.440 only I've been married since 2009

01:21:24.180 and I am not dead broke but if you

01:21:26.680 if you look at the it is a hockey

01:21:28.680 stick graph yeah if you look at

01:21:30.500 here's here's Jeremy's life before

01:21:31.920 he gets married oh my gosh he

01:21:33.320 figured it out now part of how I

01:21:35.100 figured it out is that men helped

01:21:36.480 me understand as I've discussed

01:21:38.100 before that my values about money

01:21:40.180 needed to actually be practiced and

01:21:41.520 and and my friend Frank Brunner also

01:21:43.620 helped me with that problem but

01:21:45.340 marriage is the fundamental thing

01:21:47.240 that changed responsibility is fun

01:21:49.080 and then you get a kid and you're

01:21:51.220 like oh I really I've really got a

01:21:52.900 oh yeah and it's and by the way it's

01:21:54.640 not because you're like well crap now

01:21:56.400 I've got to take care of this kid

01:21:58.100 crap now I have to give up what I

01:21:59.480 want I had I had so many dreams in

01:22:02.060 life they picked me my dreams picked

01:22:04.740 me up out of my small town they moved

01:22:07.080 me west to a place that I'd never been

01:22:08.780 they dropped me in a city that didn't

01:22:10.520 want me they they motivated me to

01:22:13.440 grind it out to work so hard I

01:22:15.840 couldn't figure out how to make

01:22:16.480 money but I worked so hard I was so

01:22:18.740 devoted to pursuing those things all

01:22:22.540 my dreams came true once I had

01:22:24.300 responsibilities it's not as though I

01:22:26.180 had to give up all my dreams and then

01:22:27.780 go grind it out at the salt mine I

01:22:29.780 provide for my kids it's the exact

01:22:31.240 opposite yep I gotta tell you I was

01:22:33.060 just talking to a young man a very

01:22:35.520 good-looking young man with a lot of

01:22:37.260 money single thank you

01:22:38.580 it was a different another very good

01:22:41.780 looking no and he was telling me how

01:22:44.500 you date today and he has 10 apps on

01:22:46.940 his phone and he says if I don't have

01:22:49.960 sex with a girl by the second date you

01:22:51.900 know it's it's it's not and he was but

01:22:53.640 he was complaining about the fact that

01:22:55.080 he couldn't find a wife and I said to

01:22:56.800 him you know there was a point in my

01:22:59.380 married life when I saw that the default

01:23:02.200 for sex had become yes instead of no

01:23:04.060 which it was when I was young the

01:23:05.160 default was no you convinced a woman

01:23:06.920 and that that changed now women have

01:23:09.040 to work to say no I said there was a

01:23:11.460 point where I kind of envied young men

01:23:13.380 for growing up in this sex positive

01:23:15.540 world where they could just have it

01:23:17.280 anytime they essentially wanted I said

01:23:19.020 but when I listen to you I actually

01:23:21.260 don't envy you at all because this is

01:23:23.340 reduced you to an animal and he was he

01:23:26.160 said you're right yeah you know I he

01:23:28.320 said I can't I can't fall in love

01:23:30.020 because I think oh you know there

01:23:31.580 might be somebody else who will sleep

01:23:32.900 with me down the road and I just

01:23:34.520 thought this is like an actual

01:23:35.700 tragic situation it's the situation

01:23:37.820 that we watch movies and you watch

01:23:39.520 pornography and this is what they're

01:23:40.800 offering you and everybody thinks they

01:23:42.460 want it but to actually live it is

01:23:45.040 very very depressing yeah I think one of

01:23:47.860 the one of the the purest joys available

01:23:50.020 to men that you can't understand until

01:23:52.240 you actually have kids is the joy of

01:23:54.700 providing there's just there's a certain

01:23:57.540 joy in being able to provide for your

01:23:59.320 family and you know I'm gonna have six

01:24:01.400 kids now and the fact that I can

01:24:04.860 actually provide for for seven human

01:24:08.540 beings is it's just an is an enormous

01:24:11.200 profound joy that I think you're welcome

01:24:13.460 are you not gonna eat or is your wife

01:24:17.280 not where's the seven but I also think

01:24:20.840 you know Jordan brought up to start the

01:24:24.820 conversation was that you're not really

01:24:26.260 like a man until you until you have kids

01:24:28.060 and have a family I think that's part of

01:24:29.860 that is because being an adult is is is

01:24:33.320 learning how to serve learning how to

01:24:34.480 find joy and service that's part of

01:24:35.900 adulthood yes which which means that you

01:24:37.560 know you can there are other paths not

01:24:39.480 not everybody is called to to be a parent

01:24:42.360 or there are other forms of fatherhood

01:24:44.100 anyway like in the religious life for

01:24:45.220 example yeah but that is just another

01:24:47.000 form of fatherhood for a man and it also

01:24:49.120 is centered around service and if you're if

01:24:51.320 you're not if you're not living a life of

01:24:53.220 service then you're not you're not an adult

01:24:54.800 and you know there was a psychologist

01:24:56.960 whose name I forget so I'm just gonna

01:24:59.060 take his point and claim it as my own

01:25:00.940 which was he he defined addiction as the

01:25:04.440 constant narrowing of things that give

01:25:06.520 you pleasure and recovery as the

01:25:09.160 expansion of things that give you

01:25:10.240 pleasure and this is so true because you

01:25:12.600 know when we're just living for our own

01:25:14.020 base appetites and we reduce ourselves

01:25:15.500 to animals it's always just some kind of

01:25:17.660 form of idolatry and addiction so it

01:25:19.920 could be drugs or booze or sex or porn or

01:25:22.560 whatever but ultimately if you've ever

01:25:24.880 fallen into any of these temptations you

01:25:27.920 have experienced that the things that it

01:25:30.160 just that becomes the thing that gives

01:25:31.820 you pleasure and it crowds out everything

01:25:33.880 else and so necessarily when you get

01:25:36.360 married when you have children hopefully

01:25:38.440 when you I don't know you know go to

01:25:40.100 church or something when you serve others

01:25:41.720 in your community when there are many

01:25:43.220 other things as well it but especially

01:25:45.420 with a family it just so inevitably expands

01:25:50.280 your capacity for joy and the categories

01:25:53.020 of things that give you joy it just

01:25:54.840 breaks those idolatries and addiction

01:25:56.720 the thing about service though to me is

01:25:58.560 everything because there there are

01:26:00.340 there's a bad way of doing everything

01:26:03.780 and a good way of doing everything and

01:26:05.300 ambition is one of those things and if

01:26:07.000 what you're ambitious ambitious about is

01:26:09.120 to serve your family and also to serve

01:26:11.040 to find out what you can do that is

01:26:12.980 actually worthwhile to somebody else you

01:26:15.520 you have a very pure ambition that

01:26:17.560 actually doesn't depend on money though

01:26:19.380 hopefully it will bring money in and it

01:26:21.780 just makes you so much happier so much

01:26:24.040 it's so much richer way to live there's

01:26:26.340 something to be said here about you know

01:26:27.560 when you talk about serving your family

01:26:29.880 one of the things that you see very

01:26:31.200 often these days is the idea that I'm

01:26:32.440 going to serve humanity and men always

01:26:33.860 have this kind of appetite to serve

01:26:35.300 humanity and it's an immature appetite

01:26:36.860 because you can't serve all of humanity

01:26:38.260 and politicians are right now and

01:26:40.520 politicians are constantly talking in

01:26:41.980 these terms right I care about all the

01:26:43.540 children I care about Nancy Pelosi does

01:26:45.620 this all the time I'm doing this all for

01:26:47.340 the children chomping away on her on her

01:26:49.120 chompers and you know and all the rest

01:26:51.200 of this and and the reality is that the

01:26:53.280 best politicians are people who I think

01:26:56.040 I'm be stereotypical now they do have

01:26:58.400 families because they know what it's

01:26:59.840 like to take care of a family and then

01:27:01.040 they say the values that I have in my

01:27:02.460 family are values that I think might be

01:27:04.540 promulgated for other families so they

01:27:06.180 can have a happy life like that like the

01:27:07.600 life that I have and and when you don't

01:27:09.180 have that when there's nothing to go

01:27:10.380 home to when you've never lived in the

01:27:11.620 context of that and seen all the

01:27:12.940 competing interests and and when

01:27:14.340 you've never really had that locally I

01:27:16.120 think it's very difficult to not become

01:27:17.880 a utopian world creator right because

01:27:19.940 family life presses in on you right it

01:27:22.020 sets it sets rules for you yeah those

01:27:23.780 you can't break those rules you think

01:27:25.660 you're in control because you ain't in

01:27:26.600 control of your kids your kids are in

01:27:27.620 control you right you're in control to a

01:27:29.400 certain extent but in the end you're not

01:27:31.600 I mean like the fact is that there's

01:27:33.160 just gonna be realities that you run up

01:27:34.460 against because that's the way life is

01:27:36.200 it gives you a certain level of

01:27:37.500 humility going into the political world

01:27:39.220 and maybe you try to achieve the really

01:27:41.120 what family to me is about you try to

01:27:42.660 achieve the really key things the most

01:27:44.220 important things right it's liberty

01:27:45.540 within the important things as a parent

01:27:47.340 you're only gonna get a few chances to

01:27:48.940 inculcate the really important things

01:27:50.600 in your kids that really really matter

01:27:52.220 so you build entire structures entire

01:27:53.620 worlds around them to inculcate these

01:27:55.760 really important things but the rest of

01:27:56.800 the time you're not in control well the

01:27:58.120 same thing is true in politics but when

01:27:59.760 you never have that experience then the

01:28:01.900 tendency is to say well I care about

01:28:03.460 all of humanity equally all of

01:28:05.160 humanity can be molded in my utopian

01:28:06.880 vision I can change all the rules for

01:28:08.200 everybody I can control every aspect of

01:28:09.760 their life and sex all the things it's

01:28:10.840 fascinating how many of the leaders of

01:28:12.520 Europe over the past 15 years have been

01:28:14.760 childless yes so many of them and and I

01:28:16.740 think it it also you know there is this

01:28:18.600 idea that at some point you start to

01:28:21.620 think well this is going to happen in 30

01:28:23.060 years I'm not going to be here I don't

01:28:24.460 care but if you have kids you start to

01:28:26.120 care you know you have grandkids you

01:28:27.280 really you really and you do it does

01:28:28.860 really worry you when you see so many of

01:28:31.620 these crazy activists with all the crazy

01:28:33.540 hair that protested your rally met that

01:28:35.820 they don't have kids yeah almost without

01:28:38.740 exception they don't have kids and

01:28:40.420 they're really really interested in your

01:28:42.580 kids yeah and that's a horrible

01:28:44.120 combination because they have no frame

01:28:45.580 of context their view is totally wrong

01:28:47.680 and and and but they have that desire to

01:28:50.940 shape the next generation they just want

01:28:52.760 to shape your next generation yeah on

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01:29:45.500 writing you had to hand write on papyrus

01:29:47.980 every individual chisel

01:29:49.340 but Andrew released today the sequel to

01:29:54.640 his Christmas thriller from last year and

01:29:57.100 Ben said that I would forget the name of

01:29:58.580 it he was absolutely right Andrew tell us

01:30:00.840 tell us about the book strange habit of

01:30:02.840 mind it is the sequel to when Christmas

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01:30:22.900 what's the first one sold out super

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 26, 2022

Daily Wire Backstage： The Red Wave

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