Daily Wire Backstageļ¼ Trumpās Address to Congress
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Trump returns to Congress tonight to deliver his first State of the Union address as president. Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, and Matt Walsh join us live from the Capitol to break down Trump's biggest moves since taking office and give their reactions.
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Trump's address to Congress live is available now.
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Join me, Andrew Klavan, and the God King Jeremy Boring,
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along with Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh reporting live from Congress
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as we break down President Trump's biggest moves since taking office
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and give our real-time reaction to his address.
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How has Trump changed Washington since becoming president?
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Welcome to Daily Wire Backstage's live coverage.
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Some people will get on to us if we do call it a State of the Union.
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It will look exactly like a State of the Union, and I think that's really what matters.
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I'm joined here in Nashville by Andrew Klavan and Michael Knowles.
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And joining us remotely from the Capitol itself tonight, we have Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh.
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There's an empty chair, which we were saving for Elijah, but it has now been filled.
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And the man filling it is the former acting director of ICE,
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and the current border czar in the second Trump administration, Tom Holman.
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Obviously, a really big night, the sort of triumphal return of Donald Trump to the Capitol
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Well, I mean, I think that you're going to expect a very enthusiastic Republican reception.
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It heard from the speaker that we are expecting a bunch of Democrats to show up with empty egg cartons,
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and they're going to wave them at the president about egg prices.
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They're going to try and disrupt as many things as possible,
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but they've been unable to disrupt the agenda thus far,
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and so I think they're going to have a rough time of it tonight.
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We don't get to sit with the borders are very often.
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I expect President Trump to educate American people on the facts of the border,
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that what he did in three weeks, Biden administration failed to do in four years.
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We had the lowest border numbers in the history of the United States border,
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Last month, we had the fewest number of encounters in the history of this nation.
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So, think what he's going to do in the next 47 months.
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So, we've got the most secure border ever right now.
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So, as the president secures the border, here's what I hope people take away tonight.
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When you have 97% less people coming, border patrols now on the border, 100% engaged, 100% on duty,
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not changing diapers, not making baby formula, not making hospital runs,
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means we seize more fentanyl, less Americans die from fentanyl.
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We arrest more traffickers, so less women and children are sex trafficked.
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We've got less non-inspected terrorists getting away in this country.
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The God of Ways alone, under Biden average, 1,800 God of Ways, the day that we know of.
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So, we're going to have total operational control of our southern border.
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Just to state the obvious, so when the media tries to claim that, well, the deportation numbers aren't as high as what Trump promised,
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the point is that the border is being secure, so we're not having the people come in, right?
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They're counting the numbers of what was removed.
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Look, President Trump can remove 90% of people coming across the border.
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His deportation numbers are still going to be lower than Biden, even if Biden deported 10%,
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But understand, in one month, a total of 8,000, 8,000 in one month, and under Joe Biden, we're doing 11,000 a day, right?
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And I say every day, and I'll say it tonight, President Trump proves every day why he's the greatest president in my lifetime.
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It doesn't seem possible that the administration could have made this accomplishment,
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because I was under the impression that it was impossible to secure the border unless we voted for Joe Biden's comprehensive immigration reform package.
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This administration knew how to fix it, and they just didn't choose to fix it.
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He said he was going to shut down ICE detention.
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He said he was going to put a moratorium on deportations.
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He said he was going to give free health care to illegal aliens.
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The promises he made, we knew the whole country, the whole world was going to come to the greatest nation on Earth
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when you're offering all these giveaways with no consequences.
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But, again, what they failed to do in four years, Donald Trump did in three weeks.
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You know, Mr. Homan, Ben just mentioned that the Democrat lawmakers are planning to interrupt the speech with all sorts of noisemakers
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I know you're busy, sir, but would it be possible for you to deport them as well, please?
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Don't tempt me because, you know, I've been fighting with the Democrat side of the House for a long time,
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but especially the last couple of days, there's going to be members of Congress sitting in the audience tonight
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who are educating criminal illegal aliens how to evade law enforcement.
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They say, well, we're educating them as a constitutional rights.
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You're educating those how to evade law enforcement, don't open your doors, don't answer questions, you know, hide.
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And these are Congress people that begged that these people had a right to claim asylum.
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So if we don't execute the final decision of the courts, there is no due process.
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You can't demand due process and ignore the final decision of the courts.
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If we do that, they might as well just shut down immigration courts, take the border off the border.
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You can't ask to implement a system of laws and ignore the final result.
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And that's why we're going to have a massive deportation operation because millions of people across this border,
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So any member of Congress who wants to educate, we made it clear the Trump administration is going to concentrate on this,
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the worst of the worst, worst public safety threats, right?
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I can't believe any member of Congress wants to educate an illegal alien who's been convicted of a serious offense.
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He's got order removal at the due process at great taxpayer expense and wants to educate them on a day to rest.
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To me, they are resigned their position as member of Congress.
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They're doing the complete opposite with American taxpayers expectable.
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Can I ask you about what about the Democrat mayors and governors who have promised, claimed,
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in some cases claimed that they're going to harbor illegal aliens in their own homes?
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Have you found that they're actually doing this?
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What are they doing to interfere with your operations?
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But if they cross the line, they're going to be prosecuted.
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And I find it hard to believe every day that there's any mayor or governor or city council person
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that doesn't want public safety threats removed from the public.
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It's in our more responsibilities of community safety.
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If you want to help us, get the hell out of the way.
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Well, I've warned numerous mayors and governors, don't cross that line.
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And Pam Bondi, we'll ask Pam Bondi to prosecute.
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If you harbor or conceal an illegal alien, knowingly harbor or conceal an alien from ICE, that's a felony.
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In my career, I've arrested U.S. citizens for harboring and concealing an illegal alien in a workplace or a home.
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If I can prosecute a U.S. citizen for doing it, why can't we prosecute a politician who does that same thing?
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So, you know, I think we've got a strong A.G. and Pam Bondi.
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And if they cross that line, we should prosecute and make an example of them.
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To your point earlier, sir, it's perfectly reasonable, perfectly understandable why someone living south of our border in particular
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would want to get to the greatest country in the history of the world.
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When you add further incentives through all of our government programs, all of the handouts,
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the open invitations that Joe Biden and his administration were putting out to people to come to the country,
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At the same time, the idea that American politicians would engage in harboring those people,
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it seems to me, it's very easy to throw around words like treason in political discussion.
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But when you're actually using your position as an elected representative of the American people
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to help criminal aliens in the country at the expense of your own constituents,
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When Joe Biden shuts down the Remain in Mexico program and says,
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no, instead, we're going to bring millions of people into the country who don't need to be here.
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The first Trump administration implemented the solution.
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Look, I think a lot of what they did is treasonous.
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They overwhelmed the Border Patrol where many nights, 70%, 7-0,
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70% of agents were pulled off the line to make sandwiches, change diapers, make baby forms,
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to make hospital runs, dealing with this humanitarian crisis they created on purpose.
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So we've got 30% of Border Patrolies left on the line.
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Then the criminal cartels have sent a group of 100 family units in one area,
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knowing that 30% are going to seize that opportunity to deal with a humanitarian crisis there,
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You've got to ask yourself, why did 2 million plus people pay more to get away?
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Because you pay the cartels one amount of money to get to the border.
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The cartels' job ends when you get to the border because you turn yourself into a green uniform.
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You get a free airline ticket to the city of your choice.
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You get three meals a day and free medical care.
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After about three months, you get work authorization, the very reason they came here.
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So why did 2 million people pay more not to take advantage of that giveaway program?
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These are going to be people trafficking women and children.
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They're going to be ones carrying the fat and all.
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And they're going to be ones coming from a country sponsoring terror.
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Now, under Trump, in four years, we arrested a total of 14 people on terrorist watch list.
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So the question is, border patrols arrested people from 181 different countries.
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Many of these countries are sponsored by terror.
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How many of that 2.2 million came from countries sponsoring terror?
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So this is the biggest national security vulnerability I've seen in my lifetime.
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Even FBI Director Wray, who I don't like, even he agreed this is the biggest national security vulnerability.
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What they did when they purposely opened this border up is create the biggest national security vulnerability this nation's ever seen.
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And we know there's people here that want to do us harm.
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We know national security threats entered this country.
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So, when you use the word treasonous, I agree with you.
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Because they, on purpose, created this open border, which resulted in a significant national security concern, national security vulnerability.
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The intelligence community believes something's going to be coming.
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And thank God we got President Trump in the Oval Office to deal with it when it happens.
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And when you talk about this, it's very clear that the Biden administration, it was an act of will for them to leave the border this way.
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There's a Native American reservation right along the border.
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There's no fencing there because the Native American reservation doesn't want there to be fencing there.
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And the Biden administration, I was told by Border Patrol, had assigned them to process people as a number one priority.
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The drug cartels would essentially drive up with a truck filled with people.
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There was actually a button they could hit at the border that would call Border Patrol to them.
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Border Patrol would then have to take them for processing.
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And that would leave the rest of the border completely wide open for the predations of the drug cartels.
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I think one part of the story that hasn't been told here is just how much the Biden administration enriched the drug cartels.
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The drug cartels made literally billions of dollars off of human trafficking and drug smuggling during the course of the Biden administration.
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No one celebrated that election more than the criminal cartels.
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The reason there's so much violence in Mexico right now is because the cartels are making more money than they've ever made in sex trafficking in women and children, alien smuggling, and the smuggling of narcotics.
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Now, there's a lot of discontent in Mexico because President Trump has taken billions of dollars out of their pockets when he secures that border.
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So I think you're going to see more violence on the border.
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I don't think they're going to go away quietly.
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I think President Trump did the right thing, designated them a terrorist organization, because these cartels have killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined.
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But what they did to the border was on purpose.
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When Barack Obama was president, Joe Biden was vice president, Secretary Mayorkas was a deputy secretary.
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We had a surge of family groups coming across the border.
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We put them in an airplane, send them home, and the border number's dumped.
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So Mayorkas knows how we fixed it, and Biden knows how we fixed it.
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They did exactly the opposite of what proved worked when he was vice president and Secretary Mayorkas, deputy secretary.
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They did the exact opposite of what they knew we succeeded with when President Obama was in office.
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And the reason they didn't detain them is because when an alien's in detention, they get a hearing within 40 days at top,
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which means in 40 days that 91% be ordered removed and they go home.
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So they released them to NGOs, put them in a hotel room, because once you're out of ICE custody, it's called the non-detained docket.
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Non-detained docket takes anywhere from three years to nine years, depending on what city you're in.
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And they knew in that three to nine years, they'll get one or two U.S. citizen kids.
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And hopefully a Democratic Congress and Democratic president that will reward them in amnesty.
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So they figured they put them on a non-custody docket with Immigration Court.
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Their cases are so far down the road that there will be a change in the administration and they can award them in amnesty.
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Mr. Holman, you mentioned just now that President Trump redefined these organizations as foreign terrorist organizations.
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And a lot of people hear that and they think, well, that's just kind of a new way of describing them.
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But obviously that is an official classification that then frees up certain American resources to deal with them.
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So in case there are any face-tattooed gangsters watching the stream tonight, practically speaking, what does it mean that the cartels can anticipate now that they're designated this way?
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If you're involved in cartels in any way, if you're transporting for them, if you're moving money for them, if you're helping these cartels in any way, then you are part of a terrorist organization and we'll charge you with terrorist-related crimes, which has significant penalties.
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Being designated terrorist brings a whole of U.S. government, I'm including the military.
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We're not just going to attack them on our southern border.
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Calisco cartels in 43 countries around the globe.
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Not only are they moving drugs across the border, that's the way it used to be, now they have a presence in every major city in this country.
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So on top of smuggling narcotics in this country, they're taking over the interior distribution of narcotics within our largest cities.
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We're going to attack them in the interior of the United States.
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We're going to attack them in every country there around the world with the assistance of the other countries.
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We're going to use the whole might of the United States government to take them out.
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We're going to, and the first thing we do is take the money.
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So we're going to shut them down one piece at a time.
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What President Trump did by designating a terrorist organization to take the first step of whiting these cartels off the face of the earth.
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You know who's going to be more grateful than anybody?
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There's a lot of corruption in Mexico, whether it's the military, law enforcement, or government officials.
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Many of them didn't choose to be corrupt, but cartels will tell you, you're going to do this, and we're going to kill you and your family.
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To take the cartels out of Mexico and demolish them and incinerate them and take them off the face of the earth, we're going to free Mexico.
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Mexico wants to be under the control of the cartels.
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So I think no one's going to be more grateful than Mexico.
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Porter Czar, Tom Holman, thank you for making time with us.
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We're very grateful for the work you're doing, very grateful for the work that President Trump is doing,
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and just looking forward to actually having some sanity and law and order on the southern border.
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Let's give the thanks to the men and women wearing the green uniform.
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While I'm sitting at this event tonight, there's some board station standing on a dirt trail someplace.
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It's going to take somebody on, whether it's just an illegal ant or a heavy-armed drug smuggler.
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These are the men and women who sit on that board 24-7 while we're laying in bed sleeping safe at night.
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Thank the ICE agents who are out there with a Kevlar vest and a gun on their hip going to sanctuary cities,
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arresting bad people because they couldn't arrest them in the jail.
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And we've got leakers telling people where these operations are.
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Let's pray for the men and women on ICE that they go home and save their families every night.
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But I want to thank the men and women on the front line who are doing the job.
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Steve Miller is the architect, probably one of the smartest men I've ever met.
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We come up with the methods of what we want done.
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But the men and women carrying the badge and gun, God bless them.
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Let's keep them safe because they're doing God's work on the front line.
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So quite a treat to have Tom Holman with us and also a treat that Ben and Matt get to attend this event.
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And to make it even better is that you had to go to the Joe Biden.
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I mean, I'm very grateful to my friend Congressman Andy Ogles for having me last year.
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It was very cool to be at the State of the Union.
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But I had to listen to Joe Biden incoherently scream for like 45 minutes.
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And you guys get to go to the UFC fight of State of the Union addresses.
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First of all, I think there's a good shot that President Trump is going to announce this rare earth mineral deal with Ukraine.
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And I think it'll rectify a lot of the breach that happened last Friday in that extraordinarily combative press conference between Zelensky, President Trump, and Vice President J.D. Vance.
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He's obviously going to talk about his accomplishments on immigration that Borzar Homan just mentioned a moment ago.
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He's going to be talking about the investments that were just made by a number of companies in America.
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The TSMC, which is, of course, the gigantic semiconductor maker in Taiwan, has announced they're going to spend $100 billion additionally in the United States.
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The Honda Civic is now going to be produced entirely in Indiana as opposed to in Mexico.
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I'm sure he's going to be talking a lot about that.
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I'm sure he'll talk about Matt's big issue, the issue that if one person really helped push over the line, it was Matt Walsh, the death of men in women's sports.
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I mean, this has been, as we discussed last time we were together, the fastest moving administration in modern American history.
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I mean, this administration is moving like absolute lightning.
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And, of course, it's going to get spicy because I would be shocked if there's no dramatics from the fainting couch left out there.
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And frankly, to me, that seems like the best tactic for some of them.
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I think they're the ones who are idiots are going to show up and make fools of themselves.
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You know, it seems like not showing up, though.
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It seems like everything they do, every strategy they come up with just sends them further and further into the wilderness.
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But I think that if they just continue to protest cutting fraud and waste, if they continue to protest securing the border, if they continue to protest putting not allowing men into women's sports, I could be gone before there's another Democrat administration, which may be only 10 minutes away.
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But, like, still, I think that this could be a long, long term in exile.
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I mean, you mentioned some of the members not showing up tonight.
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But even the Democrat governors who say, no, by golly, we're going to ignore federal law and we're going to force hulking dudes to crack women's skulls.
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And they elect David Hogg, one of the least likable Democrats, even among Democrats, to be the vice chairman of the party.
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It just seems like these guys cannot possibly win for losing.
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You know, when I'm listening to Homan talk about the border, this lawlessness, this incredible, it was an invasion.
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I mean, I know that's like a big word, but it was an invasion allowed by the president of the United States, allowing us to be invaded.
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And you hear all these theories of bringing in voters.
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Was that it, that they just thought that this would turn the Democrats?
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Ben, you correct me because you probably remember the paper better.
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There was a very prominent political science paper pushed by the left on this strategy to import people from all over the world and to have a permanent electoral majority.
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And I don't think they were counting on Trump winning 46 percent of Hispanics or an increasing number of black mail votes or anything like that.
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But they were, I think they were pretty open about it.
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But I also think that there was, I think that there was something else happening too.
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And that is that there's been this myth in democratic politics really since 2012 that you could create a permanent minority majority coalition.
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And so it was almost a no loss proposition for them.
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They figured that they were going to win more Hispanic votes in the United States by opening the vote, by opening the border.
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And they could simultaneously bring in new voters.
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And at the same time, they'd be pleasing all of their white liberal college graduates who believe that the United States bears blood guilt for ever having won Texas and California from Mexico.
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And what they didn't understand is that you are now creating a backlash that's going to make for your undoing.
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If there's one issue more than any other that really swung the election, it was the illegal immigration issue.
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And Democrats are unable to kind of let go of both.
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But I want to ask my buddy Matt here because he's been sitting here silently as is his once during our backstage.
00:26:07.400
He's always very excited to be here, as we know.
00:26:17.600
I appreciate the pity throwing it to me so I have something to say.
00:26:26.180
So it's an uncomfortable physical proximity that I'm not accustomed to.
00:26:29.460
I am wearing a tie for the first time in two years.
00:26:37.320
I'm going to note that right before this, by the way, Matt actually did up his tie.
00:26:40.860
Like a few minutes ago before we began, Matt had not buttoned his top button.
00:26:46.120
Yeah, but you've got the tie tight enough that you can masquerade.
00:26:49.900
And he kind of looked as though, and he had the cup of whiskey in front of him and the glass of whiskey.
00:26:54.100
And he looked as though, you know, he'd worked a long day at the accounting office.
00:26:57.960
And now he'd been finally released to his local pub where he could, you know, just let the tie down a little bit.
00:27:06.540
I don't even know if we're, can we drink alcohol where we are right now in these sacred halls?
00:27:18.980
And he actually took us to take a picture, which I'm sure has now been posted online.
00:27:23.100
And he actually showed us a room that apparently has never been used in the Capitol building, which was a prayer room.
00:27:30.240
It was actually like a prayer room off to the side.
00:27:32.540
It was a beautiful stained glass window of George Washington kneeling in prayer, you know, the famous painting, and emblems from all 50 states.
00:27:39.920
And George Washington was the last one to use it.
00:27:44.880
I mean, I'm hoping that none of the other Congress people discovered it, because the one rule about Congress is you never want to blacklight anything here.
00:27:52.660
So basically, this is going to be a giant pep rally for the right tonight.
00:27:59.120
And to make it all the more glorious, we're going to be filling up with leftist tears left, right, and center.
00:28:03.980
Is there anything being bandied about that we think would be a surprise?
00:28:10.600
Is Donald Trump going to do anything here tonight that shocks his constituency, or is this pure fan fiction playing out right in front of us tonight?
00:28:19.180
Well, I think the big floating idea is that you could get an announcement of the Ukraine deal, which might surprise some people because President Trump picked that fellow up and flung him out the window the other day during their Oval Office meeting.
00:28:32.460
But again, you know, these kinds of deals are bigger than just one shouting match in the Oval Office.
00:28:38.700
Obviously, President Trump last night implemented these tariffs on Mexico and Canada, which surprised some people because I think some people believed that the tariffs were merely a negotiating ploy to try to get concessions on fentanyl or border enforcement or whatever.
00:28:53.740
However, I think Trump campaigned on believing in tariffs in terms of economic theory, like in tariffs for the good of the American economy.
00:29:01.840
Well, not just tariffs themselves, though, balanced tariffs.
00:29:04.460
In other words, why should we have tariffs on our goods going out and not put tariffs on people coming in?
00:29:08.960
The whole ethos of Trump is we're not your daddy.
00:29:12.700
You know, if we're going to help you, you're going to help us.
00:29:19.140
I mean, I've been telling Europeans this for over a decade, that all their wonderful welfare programs that they have and their universal health care that they have is paid for by us because we protect them.
00:29:28.340
Right. Of course. But the one surprise tonight potentially could be that Trump, as Howard Lutnick was suggesting earlier today, Trump could roll back some of those tariffs that he announced last night.
00:29:42.580
Otherwise, I'm expecting the pep rally. I don't know about you guys.
00:29:47.700
Yeah, exactly. I mean, I'd be a little surprised if he rolls back the tariffs that quickly.
00:29:53.780
I think that he has to have some sort of headline that he can latch on to in order to do that, some sort of win that he can say that he prized out of Canada or Mexico in order to do that.
00:30:03.200
The one thing about President Trump that I've said many times, but I think you're going to see it play out with regard to these tariffs, is that President Trump likes good headlines and he does not like bad headlines.
00:30:11.440
It's when the Dow Jones Industrial Average drops by 1,500 points in two days and suddenly the lights start blinking red.
00:30:17.560
I don't think that President Trump is so wedded to the magical idea of tariffs that he won't reverse himself in order to sort of preserve economic health.
00:30:28.580
But obviously I was pushing very hard today to pardon Derek Chauvin, which I think would be a good move for the country because while he was convicted on state charges, it wouldn't free him from prison.
00:30:37.500
I do think that it would be very good and salutary for the country for the federal government to make clear that it is not going to hold to account people for crimes they did not commit and in which the jury was pretty obviously poisoned by everybody surrounding the court.
00:30:51.380
Anybody who thinks that Derek Chauvin got a fair trial, regardless of what you think of the actual outcome of the trial, anybody who pretends that that was even remotely a fair trial or the evidence stacked up to the conviction in that case, I, honest to God, don't understand what you're thinking, to be fairly frank with you.
00:31:04.700
And, again, I think it would be a shocker if President Trump said anything about it tonight.
00:31:09.360
But I would not be surprised if something in the near future is done about it.
00:31:12.560
Well, Ben and Matt, you've got to get to your seats.
00:31:17.000
You're sitting with Speaker in Speaker Johnson's box, as I understand.
00:31:22.640
I have no doubt that Drew and I will be invited to the next state of the union.
00:31:30.900
I sat next to him at the first Trump prayer breakfast, and he's forgotten me entirely.
00:31:42.640
And in the meantime, we're going to look at the people coming in, which is always kind of my favorite part of this, like the red carpet of ugly people.
00:31:50.120
When people make their grand entrances into the state of the union.
00:32:00.900
Ben and Matt, off to the Speaker's box to hear President Donald Trump make his address to a joint session of Congress.
00:32:09.220
We're seeing all the best people walking into the Capitol as we speak.
00:32:16.120
I mean, I really saw Elon a second ago, and of course, Vice President J.D. Vance, and Speaker Mike Johnson already up on the podium.
00:32:24.620
And then a bunch of really sullen-looking Democrats, which makes it...
00:32:32.140
It's interesting because in recent years, the Democrats, especially the squad Democrats, have worn white to make themselves look like the suffragettes or something.
00:32:48.240
I noticed that none of them have shaved their heads, though.
00:32:55.000
You know, I like this whole idea of them having noisemakers and, you know, like throwing egg...
00:33:04.220
At least as far as I'm concerned, they can't humiliate themselves enough to actually humiliate themselves as much as they deserve.
00:33:20.180
It's just the evilest, sucked all the life out of her.
00:33:26.060
It may have been the 14th Amendment on her sleeve.
00:33:29.420
I mean, I'm not positive, but I think it may have been the text of the 14th Amendment.
00:33:33.700
We're hearing that the president is running just a few minutes late, which I call presidential prerogative.
00:33:40.240
Wherever the president arrives, he is precisely on time.
00:33:47.620
You know, it's hard to tell exactly what the Democrats are trying to convey with their
00:33:51.660
coordinated outfits, because the white was supposed to convey women's rights, you know,
00:33:58.320
The pink presumably is more, and we have Melania walking in now, looking much more elegant
00:34:03.960
But the pink, I suppose, is to communicate women's rights vis-a-vis abortion, I would guess.
00:34:16.960
I'm certain it has something to do with abortion.
00:34:19.060
It's really the, it's the only issue they care about.
00:34:21.400
But I guess it, that to me again states that the Democrats haven't learned anything from
00:34:27.140
Because abortion was supposed to win in the election, and they lost the biggest, the biggest
00:34:34.500
So then even this 14th Amendment thing, you know, trying to make an argument that birthright
00:34:38.540
citizenship pertains to anchor babies and illegal aliens, even the New York Times ran a column
00:34:44.660
the other day making a good point that actually it's unclear from the 14th Amendment, and the
00:34:50.420
Supreme Court has never definitively ruled on that.
00:34:54.440
Well, see, usually it's the right who is blind to the culture, but this is a really interesting
00:35:00.200
situation in which the left does not know that that shield of invisibility that was created
00:35:15.000
They don't get that they're standing there naked and like the whole country is kind of
00:35:19.360
The president's cabinet arriving now is the Secretary of State Marco Rubio and crew.
00:35:26.660
Pete Hegseth, who's kind of a friend of the organization and a fellow Nashville resident
00:35:35.560
Howard Lutnick talked to us one time about buying The Daily Wire.
00:35:39.460
He wanted to help us take it public at one time.
00:35:49.520
He's a, you know, he's, he actually is Bobby Axelrod.
00:35:54.380
But they say that the character was actually, they say the character was actually written
00:36:02.420
His RFK, I'm surprised he showed up because he has measles.
00:36:07.560
Heart's breaking all over the crunchosphere as he endorsed the mRNA vaccine.
00:36:18.560
So the headline from foxnews.com was, you know, the measles vaccine is really important
00:36:28.540
If you read the column, he never endorses the vaccine.
00:36:31.700
And in fact, he says, really, the best way to fight this is good nutrition.
00:36:35.500
And, you know, actually 98% of deaths disappeared before the measles vaccine.
00:36:40.180
So if you read the text of it, clearly HHS and the White House want to hedge their bets
00:36:47.560
But what's funny is, if I'm reading the tea leaves, if I'm looking to invest maybe in different
00:36:51.800
big pharma companies, I think this health secretary still hates the vaccine.
00:36:56.600
If he hates the measles vaccines, he's a doofus.
00:37:10.920
I will say that the Make America Healthy Again movement, I think that it has some very
00:37:16.320
good foundations, and then it also has a little bit of kooky silliness to it.
00:37:22.260
I get the sense, though, that RFK Jr. is one of the most genuinely decent dudes in American
00:37:30.320
I just think that he's a, I think he actually likes people.
00:37:40.280
And I love that he drove a chainsawed-off whale head from Kennebunkport to my hometown.
00:37:55.540
If all of the women in his background are still alive and none of them are submerged.
00:38:06.180
We also now, actually, oh, I guess that's Usha Vance.
00:38:13.520
What I want, you know, you know how they always introduce people that they've helped?
00:38:16.760
What I want is for Trump to say, heal, and for Walsh to stand up and go, I can walk again.
00:38:21.640
And Shapiro can say, like, that was better than Jesus.
00:38:40.740
This is not kicking off for a little while now.
00:38:45.700
It is interesting, though, to think, in recent memory,
00:38:49.140
we've had a mixture of conservatives and liberals up there on the dais.
00:38:53.800
We've had at least one woman, you know, Nancy Pelosi, ripping up the beach.
00:38:58.280
We've had Kamala Harris up there, you know, being Kamala.
00:39:01.440
And now, just a bunch of Republican dudes, you know,
00:39:05.140
just a bunch of normal-looking Republican white dudes.
00:39:14.080
The New York Times today ran an article, Trump has bullying masculinity.
00:39:20.180
A lot of people who need bullying in that town, you know.
00:39:23.300
It would be very interesting to see what the president chooses to cover in the speech.
00:39:26.840
Obviously, Donald Trump has never given a short speech.
00:39:37.300
But then, in fairness, he immediately went downstairs and gave the rest of the speech.
00:39:43.940
And this one, you know, truly, Trump said we'd get tired of winning.
00:39:49.400
And I almost am tired of winning, and I mean it in a very literal way,
00:39:52.320
and I do have three kids, four and under, and I've been traveling a lot.
00:39:55.460
This news cycle is exhausting because Trump, whether you love him or hate him,
00:40:01.240
you have to admit he has notched so many victories in the first month in office.
00:40:06.300
Yeah, we're like 45 days or something into this.
00:40:13.540
And it's like, you know, sometimes Trump annoys me, sometimes he doesn't.
00:40:22.140
This needed to happen, and there's going to be some ancillary damage.
00:40:25.920
I mean, I'm sorry for some of the people losing their jobs.
00:40:28.300
Some of the people who lose their jobs are going to be good people.
00:40:30.280
But this cancer of these agencies has to be ripped out.
00:40:34.420
And the president needs to be able to run the executive branch.
00:40:45.760
They said, oh, isn't there a threat to the separation of powers?
00:40:49.400
There was a threat to the separation of powers.
00:40:51.700
Trump is exerting, actually, his just authority.
00:40:55.600
I have not asked a real constitutional lawyer how the legislature can create an agency in the executive branch
00:41:04.160
It seems to me, if it's in the executive branch, the executive can do anything he wants with it.
00:41:07.820
Well, the trick of it is, and this is kind of what Chevron is ultimately, was ultimately about,
00:41:13.600
is that it actually is the legislature ceding its authority to regulate to executive agencies.
00:41:31.220
And all this stuff about Elon Musk wasn't elected, you know, and they have all of these people weren't elected.
00:41:35.800
But the other crazy thing when they knock Elon and the Department of Government Efficiency,
00:41:46.480
Wilson, the Bureau of Efficiency, that reformed the executive branch.
00:41:50.840
After that, you had FDR, had the Brownlow Commission.
00:41:53.740
That created the executive office of the president.
00:42:02.040
My favorite example, though, is more recently Al Gore as vice president.
00:42:08.620
I actually, oddly enough, was just sitting behind Al Gore on an airplane.
00:42:12.060
Apparently, global warming doesn't pay anymore because it was sitting right in front of me commercial.
00:42:15.540
But Al Gore in the 90s had the National Initiative for Reinventing Government.
00:42:20.340
And it fired a quarter million federal employees, and it consolidated 800 agencies.
00:42:28.200
The only problem with him is a lot of it was gutting the military because they thought the Cold War was over,
00:42:34.080
and they were going to get rid of all these soldiers we didn't meet.
00:42:37.980
But in terms of cutting government and cutting regulation, Gore was very successful.
00:42:42.460
You know, Clinton was a good president domestically.
00:42:45.260
If you don't look at him overseas, he was actually not a bad person.
00:42:57.440
As you know, I always say that the 90s were the peak of American civilization.
00:43:03.840
That's the new era that you look back to sort of nostalgically.
00:43:08.000
In the 50s, we were in the middle of this Cold War, the nuclear arms race, the space race.
00:43:19.500
In the 90s, we could have sent Bill Clinton twice to be president of the United States.
00:43:27.660
In the 1990s, we could make Smash Mouth, a best-selling rock and roll band,
00:43:33.560
singing songs about having your finger and your thumb in the shape of an L on your forehead,
00:43:43.940
That was the great Onion headline when 9-11 happened.
00:43:48.320
Americans yearn to care about stupid crap again.
00:43:54.540
I spent the 90s in England, so I missed the whole thing.
00:44:03.320
In the 1990s, Kurt Cobain killed himself to protest that nothing was wrong.
00:44:13.280
All right, now we have, ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States.
00:44:25.000
I mean, what a triumphant moment for Donald Trump.
00:44:28.380
This is like the greatest version of when Nigel Farage went to the European legislators and he said,
00:44:41.420
you know, I came here a decade ago and I said we were leaving the EU and you all laughed at me.
00:44:47.280
This is Donald Trump's who's laughing now moment.
00:44:49.460
And in living memory, nothing like this has ever happened.
00:44:59.320
You know, my son has a little placemat with all the presidents on the dining room table.
00:45:17.520
But there's one president with two pictures on there.
00:45:25.080
And, you know, so Trump runs for president in 16 and he says, I'm going to be great.
00:45:34.520
He is now one of the most significant figures in American history.
00:45:44.500
And it's still, you know, it's up for grabs whether he's going to get away with doing what he has to do,
00:45:49.200
which is killing the influence of the deep state.
00:45:54.120
But he did get kissed by Nancy Mace, which I think is, that's my personal dream.
00:46:17.020
I keep thinking that the sergeant in arms is Senator Bob Menendez.
00:46:36.820
I think anyone else has such a handsome goatee.
00:46:48.400
He's recovered from sinking into the couch during that Oval Office.
00:46:51.960
He looked like he was just going to see some steam behind him.
00:46:54.920
It was sort of like that meme of Homer Simpson backing into the bush.
00:47:31.060
Now, I couldn't quite see which justices made it.
00:47:45.560
Scalia famously would not go to the State of the Union.
00:47:48.760
He went in the first few years, and then he said it was just a ridiculous political display, and the justices really had no role there.
00:47:55.480
The president about to take the podium and address the Joint Session of Congress.
00:48:00.100
We'll cut to his remarks, and then we'll be back as soon as the speech is over to tell you what we think about it.
00:48:06.740
An amazing speech by Donald Trump to the Joint Session of Congress.
00:48:13.140
Maybe the longest joint session ever by a president of the United States.
00:48:17.620
I mean, if we think of it as a State of the Union address, even though technically it isn't one, you know, was this an hour 40, an hour 50 minutes?
00:48:25.700
Bill Clinton had some doozies in there, so I don't know if it was the longest ever.
00:48:28.920
But, you know, I was there at Biden's last year, and it felt long.
00:48:34.520
It was, yeah, I mean, he might have pushed it closer to an hour, but it felt like two days.
00:48:39.160
And this one, I'm not saying there weren't moments that lulled compared to others, but I was engaged for about 92 percent of this.
00:48:47.720
I mean, this was an amazingly well-written and delivered speech.
00:48:55.560
Really, the Democrats set the trap for themselves, and he just called their attention to it.
00:48:59.500
When he said, I could get up here, I could cure the worst diseases, I could do the greatest feats, and they would not stand up and applaud.
00:49:06.880
And at that point, they said, well, now we're really not going to stand up and applaud.
00:49:10.040
So, you know, just to use the most stirring example, in a night of amazing moments, the one that stole the show was that 13-year-old boy who's been fighting brain cancer.
00:49:24.140
You know, he always wanted to be a cop, and he's now made a member of the U.S. Secret Service.
00:49:29.260
And you just think, man, if you can't agree in this country that that is a good thing, we have nothing in common.
00:49:40.760
Many of them would not even applaud a little kid fighting cancer.
00:49:50.220
And, you know, yeah, you can say it was too long, Trump tends to do that.
00:49:53.760
Guys, according to AI, which knows everything, the record belongs to Bill Clinton.
00:50:11.340
But I've never, I don't think anyone has ever seen a president go in there as pugilistically as he did and really take the Republicans, the Democrats, head on like that.
00:50:21.200
And the Democrats who came to start trouble were bullied into silence, beaten into silence by this one man who has just taken everything from them.
00:50:32.720
You know, false accusations, impeachments, an assassination attempt, you know, convictions for felonies that don't even exist that no one can name.
00:50:44.760
And I just can't help thinking that, look, in the end, the proof is in the pudding.
00:50:53.680
He's going to have to resolve the debt and all those things and build our military back because we're in big trouble with our military as China's military soars.
00:51:00.480
But in terms of a promise, in terms of looking at a president and thinking, yeah, that guy could do that, that we now have a leader, it's an extraordinary, he's an extraordinary person in an extraordinary moment.
00:51:12.060
And, you know, he has this way of blowing away all the kind of picayune criticisms that you can throw at him because it's been so long since anybody stood up and said, this is a great country and I will bring it to another level of greatness.
00:51:33.020
Who has said that besides Reagan, since Reagan?
00:51:35.540
Who has said, this is a wonderful, wonderful country, which it is, and I will make it and I will stand up into that tradition and move it to the next step.
00:51:45.260
And I don't know, I can't help thinking, I could be wrong, you never know about this stuff, but I can't help thinking that after the press fumes and screams and roars and shakes their fists, the American people are just going to, you know, push his popularity up to the next level.
00:51:59.720
They always say after Trump's speech is, it was dark.
00:52:03.080
And the reality is, there was nothing dark about this speech.
00:52:10.060
And this, I think, really off-footed the Democrats.
00:52:12.880
Trump was having so much fun and it was infectious and the audience was having fun and they did not know how to react to that.
00:52:20.880
So I can't name even a tenth of the examples, but when Trump goes out there, he says, we killed the top terrorist in Afghanistan.
00:52:29.340
The Democrats, not only do they not stand, they don't applaud.
00:52:32.440
So the Democrats formally come out in favor of the top terrorist in Afghanistan.
00:52:36.440
When Trump says we're taking down the cartels, the Democrats don't applaud.
00:52:44.300
When Trump announces that he brought an American citizen home from a Russian prison, they can't even applaud that.
00:52:53.100
We've got to support the police and they booed.
00:52:56.460
That moment when you could say maybe one of the stupidest things any political party has ever supported defunding the police.
00:53:04.980
That moment of hysteria and dizziness and vertigo has gone.
00:53:10.800
And now we know, we remember the obvious thing.
00:53:13.680
We need police because they're bad guys and we need good guys to stop the bad guys.
00:53:24.600
And, you know, the Democrats, they do not know.
00:53:32.120
And what has happened is that force field of protection that was given to them by our rotten, corrupt, left-wing establishment press has been destroyed by people like us.
00:53:44.580
You know, and by Megan and by Joe Rogan and by all those people, this new media has wiped it away.
00:53:52.680
But they do not have the power to lie without being exposed in real time, thanks to Elon Musk to some degree on X, you know, that they can be exposed and people see through them.
00:54:06.900
Should we talk about Al Green getting thrown out?
00:54:13.000
You know, when he stood up there right at the beginning, I just thought, wow, this is, he's a ridiculous person.
00:54:19.020
But really, he was just, by degree, a little bit more extreme than the Democrats.
00:54:25.960
And I thought from the moment they started doing that, I said, this is a, it's inappropriate, it's disreputable, but it's just a bad political choice.
00:54:35.800
I also think it was a bad choice of the people who were producing the actual video broadcast of the speech not to let us hear what he was saying.
00:54:49.840
And none of us know what on earth, I mean, he had a cane.
00:54:52.620
I think you made the point that it was like from the 1800s.
00:54:59.020
But you could tell, obviously, that Speaker Johnson was already prepared for this.
00:55:05.160
He had all of the procedural order in front of him so that he would be able to react because the Democrats were forecasting that they were going to cause this kind of trouble for the entire day leading into this.
00:55:16.260
And Al Green, I think, has already introduced articles of impeachment against Trump.
00:55:20.120
He's tried to impeach him like 150 times already.
00:55:22.320
So he's a slightly more extreme version of the Democrats.
00:55:26.620
But all the heckling tonight, I just thought, you know, it was going to be a bad night for the Democrats because they lost the electoral college by a lot.
00:55:35.060
They lost the popular vote significantly and for the first time in 20 years.
00:55:39.960
And if they just sort of were even slightly normal, they might have gotten through it and lived to fight another day.
00:55:47.260
But I don't think the median American or even the even the center left American watching that display tonight is taken.
00:55:55.240
And truly, if they had just treated it like any 1990s State of the Union address, they would have come out far ahead of what they could have walked out and just said, what a divisive speech.
00:56:04.740
You know, he could have brought the country together and he didn't.
00:56:07.160
It would have been ineffective, but it would have been a lot more effective than this.
00:56:10.840
And because he knew it was coming, he brought that force of personality.
00:56:15.500
You know, he's just he's like he's like those old sheriffs in the movies who go out and stand up against a lynch mob.
00:56:20.220
And just the force of their personality makes everybody kind of ashamed and go home.
00:56:23.640
By the end of it, they weren't saying anything.
00:56:33.500
They're stuck with this racial garbage that people, you know, I think people on both sides of the racial divide, if it still is a divide, I think they're sick of it.
00:56:45.020
It is racism embedded in government like it hasn't been since the end of the Jim Crow laws.
00:56:51.660
And I think that that that fog that people were in.
00:56:54.600
I mean, this is the thing that bothered me most about the Biden administration is I would talk to normal, everyday people who were not particularly political.
00:57:02.280
And you would say, you know, sexually mutilating a child is a Nazi like atrocity.
00:57:08.660
It's not like saying, oh, Donald Trump is Hitler.
00:57:13.620
And they would kind of just gloss, you know, kind of go into this fugue state because we were all in this bad dream that this was the way it was going to be, that this was normal, that there was something right about this or defensible about it.
00:57:26.400
He just took advantage of that and slammed them.
00:57:33.280
And the fact that he was protected by the press and Jake Zapper is writing a book, if I did it, you know, it's like, yeah, no, I mean, they think we're going to forget, but we don't have to forget anymore.
00:57:45.900
Because the new media is here to remind us and to show us and bring the receipts.
00:57:49.640
I think there was that look on some of the Democrat members' faces tonight, which was, and not all of them, but some of them, where they thought, you know, yikes, maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't have raided this guy's house.
00:58:02.800
Like, you know, because Donald Trump woke up today and he chose violence.
00:58:10.720
He said, you know, I've paid a lot and I nearly lost my life, very nearly on one occasion and almost on another occasion, to be here.
00:58:20.320
And you people, you tried to throw me in prison four times.
00:58:35.420
You know, I mean, just a political vindication, the likes of which we have never seen in this country before.
00:58:42.780
That line where he said, you know, I could do anything and you wouldn't stand up, it actually kind of cut their legs off.
00:58:48.320
Because he started by saying, look, you know, what would you applaud for?
00:58:54.900
And so it just kind of took the legitimacy away from them.
00:58:59.100
And I did enjoy seeing Walsh and Shapiro in the gallery.
00:59:02.620
Yeah, do we have any video of Ben and Matt at the event?
00:59:09.500
Oh, I believe we may have the Democrat response.
00:59:15.240
I also signed an executive order to ban men from playing in women's sports.
00:59:35.180
Hey guys, I believe we have the Democrat response.
00:59:42.720
You can find that same sense of patriotism here in Wyandotte, Michigan, where I'm speaking from tonight.
00:59:48.840
It's a working class town just south of Detroit.
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President Trump and I both want here in November.
00:59:54.400
It might not seem like it, but if you're running places like this still exist across the United States.
01:00:00.380
Places where people believe that if you work hard and play by the rules, you should do well and your kids should do better.
01:00:08.760
My dad was a lifelong Republican by mom, a lifelong Democrat.
01:00:13.300
It was never a big deal because we had shared values that were bigger than any one party.
01:00:20.260
We just went through another fraught election season.
01:00:23.780
Americans made it clear that prices are too high and that the government needs to be more responsive to their needs.
01:00:31.260
And we don't want gangsters and we don't want you cascading little kids.
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And we can make that change without forgetting who we are as a country and as a democracy.
01:00:44.020
Because whether you're from Wyandotte or Wichita, most Americans share three core beliefs.
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That the middle class is the engine of our country.
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That strong national security protects us from harm.
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And that our democracy, no matter how messy, is unparalleled and worth fighting for.
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The revolutionary idea that you can work at an auto plant and afford the car you were building.
01:01:15.880
Because I'm pretty sure it was like Italy in the high middle class.
01:01:24.200
We need to make more things in America with good-paying union jobs.
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And bring our supply chains back home from places like China.
01:01:36.340
But I actually don't understand how she is just supposing the Democrat platform from Trump's administration.
01:01:43.020
Look, the president talked a big game on the economy.
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But it's always important to read the fine print.
01:01:49.660
So, do his plans actually help Americans get ahead?
01:01:55.900
President Trump is trying to deliver an unprecedented giveaway to his billionaire friends.
01:02:00.840
He's on the hunt to find trillions of dollars to pass along to the wealthiest in America.
01:02:05.920
And to do that, he's going to make you pay in every part of your life.
01:02:11.400
Grocery and home prices are going up, not down.
01:02:14.480
And he hasn't laid out a credible plan to deal with either of those.
01:02:17.560
His tariffs on allies like Canada will raise prices on energy, lumber, and cars.
01:02:23.580
And start a trade war that will hurt manufacturing and farmers.
01:02:27.320
Your premiums and prescriptions will cost more because the math on his proposals doesn't work without going after your health care.
01:02:35.120
Meanwhile, for those keeping score, the national debt is going up, not down.
01:02:40.780
And if he's not careful, he could walk us right into a recession.
01:02:46.600
In order to pay for his plan, he could very well come after your retirement.
01:02:57.800
But Elon Musk just called Social Security the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time.
01:03:02.500
I mean, in fairness, it is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time.
01:03:06.000
Is there anyone in America who is comfortable with him and his gang of 20-year-olds
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using their own computer servers to poke through your tax returns,
01:03:13.860
your health information, and your bank accounts?
01:03:17.320
They're actually using the U.S. Digital Service, which is a branch of the federal government.
01:03:20.840
No card rails on what they do with your private data.
01:03:24.440
And 20-year-olds are the only people who know how to do this.
01:03:26.560
If it's my private data, why does the government have it?
01:03:29.800
And all those people, what are there, like 100,000 people in the Treasury Department looking at you?
01:03:34.060
The mindless firing of people who work to protect our nuclear weapons,
01:03:37.220
keep our planes from crashing, and conduct the research that finds the truth.
01:03:40.340
This is, by the way, what I mean by the press, right?
01:03:42.160
In the old days, the press would have said all this was true.
01:03:45.620
Yeah, people would have actually, you know, thought that maybe it was true.
01:03:53.780
Whoever she is, I actually think she's quite a good presenter.
01:04:04.700
Democrats and Republicans should all be for that.
01:04:07.600
But securing the border without actually fixing our broken immigration system
01:04:11.820
is dealing with the symptom and not the disease.
01:04:17.500
We need a functional system to heed to the needs of our economy.
01:04:24.720
So I look forward to the president's plan on that.
01:04:32.240
Migration, cyber threats, AI, environmental destruction, terrorism.
01:04:36.500
Until we can solve it all, we can't solve any of it.
01:04:38.500
We need friends in all corners, and our safety depends on it.
01:04:44.760
President Trump loves to say peace through strength.
01:04:47.620
That's actually a line he stole from Ronald Reagan.
01:04:50.560
But let me tell you, after the spectacle that just took place in the Oval Office last week,
01:05:00.560
This, they should have edited this part of the speech.
01:05:03.760
The events in the Oval Office with Zelensky were very difficult to watch.
01:05:08.980
But in order to have a judgment about them, now, you have to ignore the fact that he got the deal.
01:05:16.380
Zelensky literally today sent him a letter and said, yeah, all right.
01:05:20.780
As we knew he would when we were watching it, because he had no choice.
01:05:23.040
I swear, the Democrats told him he could go in there, and the American people, they'll greet him as a conqueror.
01:05:38.400
Donald Trump's actions suggested in his heart, he doesn't believe we're an exceptional nation.
01:05:55.020
And I would rather have American leadership over Chinese or Russian leadership any day of the week.
01:06:01.700
Because for generations, America has offered something better.
01:06:07.540
But our democracy, our very system of government, has been the aspiration of the world.
01:06:15.260
It's at risk when the president decides you can pick and choose what rules you want to follow,
01:06:19.420
when he ignores court orders and the Constitution itself,
01:06:23.200
or when elected leaders stand by and just let it happen.
01:06:27.080
But it's also at risk when the president pits Americans against each other,
01:06:32.460
when he demonizes those who are different and tells certain people they shouldn't be included.
01:06:39.380
Because America is not just a patch of land between two oceans.
01:06:44.900
Generations have fought and died to secure the fundamental rights that define us.
01:06:48.680
Those rights and the fight for them make us who we are.
01:06:51.360
This woman has secured her career if there's an opening of a view.
01:06:54.060
We're a nation of strivers, risk-takers, innovators, and we are never satisfied.
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I've seen what life is like when a government is rigged.
01:07:11.220
You can't open a business without paying off a corrupt official.
01:07:13.780
You can't criticize the guys in charge without getting a knock at the door in the middle of the night.
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The kind of countries that have ballot drop boxes.
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Widespread mail-in ballots contrary to the state constitution.
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You don't even need your identification to vote.
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I know a lot of you have been asking that question.
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All right, I'm officially saying let's tune out.
01:07:43.780
As soon as she said, we can't tune out, I'm not.
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I will say, I have truly, I'm not, this is not a joke.
01:07:55.200
I think this is maybe one of the best responses that I've ever seen.
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Consider this indictment of the Democrat Party.
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They had to find someone who was reasonably normal.
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And anyone that we might have even seen on TV one time.
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And they came up with the dog catcher from Michigan or whatever.
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I have no clue what position she ought to be in.
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Her name, according to the control booth, is Alyssa Slotkin.
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She ran, you know, she's actually, she is a member of the Senate.
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She, because, also, that was a close race, and that was very frustrating, this cycle.
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But, you know, it is funny, because, like, this woman, so she's relatively new.
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That is also why people don't, like, recognize her.
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You know, they did it with Katie Britt last year for the Republicans.
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It's so moderate, in fact, that it is actually difficult to distinguish most of what she just said from what Trump actually said.
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It's like she's actually attacking the Democrats' policies and pretending they're the Republicans' policies.
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So are we cutting back to the trash collector from Michigan?
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I have a monitor here, and I could see the audience numbers beginning to plummet.
01:11:40.200
Difficult to get out of the House chamber, but they are.
01:11:44.420
We do think there's some chance that they will make it back to Speaker Johnson's office.
01:11:52.320
I was actually sitting right behind Tennessee Governor Bill Lee.
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And Bill Lee, if you're a governor, it turns out you get to keep your cell phone during the State of the Union.
01:12:00.740
And you get a heads up from Secret Service before the president's about to wrap so you can get out of there before they lock you down.
01:12:09.120
So they lock you down in the House chamber, and you just kind of sit there and schmooze with the people to your right and left.
01:12:17.040
What's a little weird, not if you're sitting as Ben and Matt were with Riley in the Speaker's gallery,
01:12:22.400
but when you're sitting just with the hoi polloi, with the regular, you know, members guests, you're often sitting next to Democrats.
01:12:29.880
So, you know, some people who might be fuming about the speech or, you know, it's a little bit awkward, but you make small talk.
01:12:36.020
And, you know, it takes something like half an hour to get out of there.
01:12:38.760
Now, happily, because, you know, now the Republicans are back in charge in D.C.,
01:12:43.380
I think Ben and Matt will be able to broadcast from the Capitol.
01:12:46.960
So it won't take them five hours to get out there, and we might be able to hear what it was like in the room.
01:12:51.400
But of all the State of the Unions that I've watched, one in person, all of the rest of them on television,
01:13:01.580
Yeah, I have to say, it was a bit rambling in places, as Trump speeches can sometimes be,
01:13:09.920
and went longer than it needed to, as Trump speeches almost always do.
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He's sort of like the modern Martin Scorsese of speech makers.
01:13:17.360
But you're like, somewhere in there, there was a perfectly good 90-minute...
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The greatest master of this, of our generation.
01:13:24.620
However, it was the most fun State of the Union address I've ever seen.
01:13:32.160
And you said it before, he was enjoying himself.
01:13:36.520
I mean, what a mic drop moment to be able to say,
01:13:38.780
oh, yeah, and Zelensky just called and wants me to make a peace deal with Russia.
01:13:44.780
One week ago, people were essentially saying the world order was over.
01:13:53.360
And now he's just getting exactly what he wants.
01:13:58.200
And you know, when he said to Zelensky, you don't have the cards, that was true.
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You know, I mean, you knew that was true when he was saying it.
01:14:04.360
And it really, nobody really asked, like, what was Zelensky thinking?
01:14:08.900
You know, even if, you know, there was this idea that it had been some kind of setup
01:14:12.560
that they were waiting to line and wait for him.
01:14:16.660
Where Zelensky spent 40 minutes kind of sighing and rolling his eyes.
01:14:23.960
And Trump remained very gracious to him until that moment when Zelensky said,
01:14:32.680
And I was kind of like, ooh, you know, that was a mistake.
01:14:37.600
One is that Zelensky wanted there to be a tense moment to spur Europe to greater aid
01:14:43.340
because he kind of knew that Trump wanted a peace deal.
01:14:45.620
And if Trump negotiates a peace deal with Putin, then that's going to involve concessions
01:14:51.600
The other theory that was going around some of the press was that Zelensky was talking
01:14:56.040
to some of his friends from the past Democrat administrations, many of whom have been
01:15:00.740
integral in American policy in Ukraine going back to 2014 even, and that maybe they encouraged
01:15:08.780
And so then I have this image afterward of, you know, Zelensky running up to Victoria Nuland
01:15:19.720
And so clearly within 48 hours or something, he's back on the horn to the White House and
01:15:27.380
And, you know, the thing is, no matter if Biden had negotiated this deal, if that woman
01:15:32.560
who ran for, I can't remember her name, had, you know, oh yeah, Kamala something.
01:15:38.140
But if she had negotiated this deal, same thing would have happened.
01:15:40.440
Putin would have gotten some of the stuff that he'd already stomped on and that would
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have, they just would have had to settle for that.
01:15:45.780
There was never going to be, you know, the Ukrainians were never marching on Moscow.
01:15:51.640
I find it distasteful that some on the American right now are sort of, are playing the, uh,
01:16:05.780
He has nuclear missiles pointed at us right now.
01:16:08.080
He's not our friend, but Ukraine can't win this war.
01:16:12.500
The other, I know we're not allowed to have any historical nuance or anything in here,
01:16:15.600
but the, some of the territories that we're talking about, most notably Crimea have been
01:16:20.980
contested for, um, millennia and many centuries at this point and have historically been part
01:16:27.620
of Russia and have been considered very important to Russia.
01:16:30.240
And so like, I know Americans decide they're going to become experts on every issue overnight,
01:16:37.100
And that was kind of Trump's point in the, in the Oval Office is, you know, look, we're
01:16:43.420
Unless you want to be like the Democrats and just have it be a meat grinder forever with
01:16:47.560
But if you, if you are going to have a deal, then you need to figure out what these strategic
01:16:52.460
objectives are and the interests and where is it there?
01:16:55.900
It's also different in kind than any war that we've seen in our, in our lifetime.
01:17:01.440
I'm not making an age joke, but you actually have seen things like this.
01:17:09.760
This is a war where the casualties are in the seven figures.
01:17:14.320
You know, America lost something like 5,000 troops in the totality of the war, the war
01:17:21.740
You're talking about hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians have died in the
01:17:28.920
When we say meat grinder, we're not, we're not being rhetorical.
01:17:32.380
It's a world, it's a world war one kind of stalemate that they're just killing each other.
01:17:36.740
And the other thing about it is, you know, you don't have to make excuses for Putin or say
01:17:42.160
that it's a good thing that he invaded to understand that in these situations, power matters and
01:17:52.860
And this is the other thing because the Putin apologists make of him this larger than life
01:17:58.960
And they want to say, well, America couldn't beat Putin.
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Europe could beat Putin if they set their mind to it.
01:18:05.220
Europe and America would destroy Putin at risk of nuclear war.
01:18:15.560
And just on a, I don't think this is really cynical, but on a realistic level, China is
01:18:29.100
It is better for Putin to be friends with us who will not try to devour him than friends
01:18:36.380
He knows when he's not looking at Xi and thinking he's a great guy.
01:18:38.860
I look into his eyes and see his soul and he's going to be good to me.
01:18:42.260
He knows that the price of an alliance with China is Russia ultimately, and he won't have
01:18:48.920
And so if we separate them and we have to make a little bit nice to him, you know, it's distasteful.
01:18:53.280
I think it is distasteful, but it may just be necessary because we have to be ready for
01:18:58.200
And that's the one thing I think is in Trump's mind in a way that it's not in the minds of
01:19:05.860
Maybe because the head of our intelligence is named Heinz Haikou.
01:19:10.640
The one thing that I found disappointing in the foreign policy part of the president's
01:19:14.500
speech is that he didn't talk about the new Trumpistan colony in what was formerly the
01:19:29.660
You know, part of that, when that announcement came out, everyone lost their minds, as is
01:19:34.280
often the case when President Trump makes big declarations.
01:19:37.420
And some people still haven't learned it 10 years into this thing.
01:19:41.040
But, you know, when Trump throws something out there, he is often negotiating or speaking
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And so in this case, why didn't he bring it up?
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Because he, well, just look at the news today of the Arab states coming in and saying,
01:19:57.020
no, no, no, hold on, wait a second, we don't want you, maybe we'll be involved in this.
01:20:00.360
And maybe that sort of thing is what Trump was actually after.
01:20:03.760
And he was also after putting paid to the two-state solution, which is the dumbest idea
01:20:09.100
that people have clung to for decades, you know.
01:20:11.960
It's like, one state called Israel, another state that wants to kill Israel, it'll be
01:20:16.640
And I think he just avoided that exactly for what you said.
01:20:20.820
He had negotiated them into a position, which we said at the beginning, where he would
01:20:29.700
Because they were in sort of a stalemate of these two notions and no one was moving.
01:20:33.900
And then Trump just came in and dropped this wild idea.
01:20:38.080
And everyone sort of just stopped and said, wait, what?
01:20:46.860
I mean, I was a little surprised he didn't mention it, only because, as we knew they would,
01:20:51.080
the Hamas is violating, you know, not going forward with the ceasefire and has not returned
01:20:57.360
And I assume Israel is going to go back in there and kick some ass.
01:21:00.400
And I think that he probably didn't want to seem to have incited it.
01:21:07.440
And it is, at this point, it's a fait accompli.
01:21:10.160
Of course, Israel is going back into the Gaza Strip.
01:21:12.100
I thought it was, you know, it's funny, at the inaugural ball that we were at, they interviewed
01:21:17.520
me on the red carpet and they asked me what I thought of the deal.
01:21:19.560
And I said, well, the deal is terrible, but we know that Hamas is going to break it and
01:21:22.960
we know that Trump is going to support them when they go back in.
01:21:25.360
That was kind of the setup of the deal, that it was always going to come to this, you know.
01:21:28.860
But he got the win that he needed, you know, so he could, he didn't stand in the way of
01:21:33.680
a ceasefire, which would have been bad for him.
01:21:39.440
Also, in terms of foreign policy, he presented tariffs in a way that was digestible and common
01:21:46.240
First of all, I mean, I've been advocating throughout the campaign that really the key
01:21:53.200
That's why, I mean, and I'm not the first to notice it.
01:21:55.680
It goes back to Antonio Gramsci and many other political thinkers.
01:22:00.860
And so when we're talking about free trade or tariff theory or these kind of complex economic
01:22:07.000
concepts, it's a little difficult for any, even someone who's studied economics to really
01:22:13.320
And so when he says, look, you guys charge us a lot of money for our products, but you
01:22:19.120
expect us not to charge you a lot of money when you bring your products into our market,
01:22:23.860
which is much more valuable, that's not going to happen.
01:22:28.460
And if we get into a trade war, I promise you we're going to win.
01:22:32.020
That is really clear, common sense thinking that doesn't require a degree in economics.
01:22:36.380
I have to say, I am maybe the only person in America who does not know what the result
01:22:40.080
of the tariffs will be and will openly admit it.
01:22:44.700
I thought it was a sensible enough rhetorical argument for something that I think is somewhat
01:22:53.500
I think using tariffs as a form of leverage to get us better trade deals than we might
01:22:58.160
otherwise have, which we've seen President Trump do in the past, is a perfectly good thing
01:23:04.940
And the dollar being the standard currency, basically, of all global trade.
01:23:13.540
And that's a thing that you do not want to lose and that you put at risk with this tariff.
01:23:17.160
But globalist trade has not been so good for us.
01:23:21.200
The idea that the center of the country is going to be gutted of jobs, but your iPhone is
01:23:25.660
going to cost less because it's made by slave labor has not really worked out for us.
01:23:30.980
Remember, this is why his first inaugural speech was called Dark, because he talked about
01:23:35.780
I was out there during the Biden administration and all the boarded shops and all the people
01:23:44.800
So if he can bring America back to the place where we support American goods and still can
01:23:50.300
have free trade, I mean, that would be better than the globalist trade that we were dealing
01:23:54.520
Well, I think that if we're going to talk about things that none of us understand, we should
01:24:06.380
I mean, it was pretty outstanding from where we were sitting.
01:24:09.100
Well, I mean, right now we're just wondering why we're here because, I mean, well, we're
01:24:14.380
And my annoyance is you sent the two most easily annoyed people in America to this.
01:24:22.580
And now you're bringing us back and it's 1135 at night.
01:24:27.840
So I have not I have not clapped and I have not clapped that much like in total in my entire
01:24:36.940
I will say that that I thought it was a great speech.
01:24:40.620
And I thought but for me, unfortunately, being in the room, even though it was a really good
01:24:45.540
speech, the big takeaway is just the Democrats.
01:24:50.500
But the performance by the Democrats, I thought, was just disgraceful and ridiculous.
01:24:56.600
And being in the room, I mean, I don't know how much you pick up on camera.
01:24:59.940
I'm sure the one guy standing up and refusing to leave, that certainly made it in.
01:25:03.460
But the just constant comments, the little stunts there, they're looking down at their
01:25:10.300
You know, I had a woman who was right in front of me down below who was like taking angry
01:25:13.660
selfies of herself and texting him to her friend.
01:25:17.120
So this is this is what the lawmakers were busy doing.
01:25:20.040
Matt, did you photobomb any of the selfies for this Democrat woman's friend?
01:25:30.020
But but to me, the the the thing that kind of tells you everything you need to know is
01:25:35.600
that the Democrats sat on their hands and did not clap anything.
01:25:39.160
They didn't you know, they didn't clap a child cancer survivor.
01:25:45.760
They didn't clap, you know, protecting Americans from crime, killing terrorists and all of
01:25:50.900
The only thing they clap for, the only thing that they clap for was Ukraine.
01:25:55.160
That was the one single applause line from the Democrats.
01:25:58.280
And I think that that sort of tells you everything you need to know about the Democrat Party,
01:26:02.520
which is just nothing but a they didn't even clap for their own vote.
01:26:05.180
There was one point when Trump thanked them for voting for Marco Rubio for secretary of
01:26:13.320
You could see Bernie Sanders maybe 15, 20 minutes before the end.
01:26:17.980
You can see a bunch of the Democratic Congress people starting to file out kind of slowly
01:26:24.240
Now, President Trump's energy was was really good.
01:26:35.460
And I got to tell you, the Democrats felt dead.
01:26:38.040
I mean, it felt like the air had been sucked out of their side of the room, not just because
01:26:40.480
they were depressed because they lost, but also because there's just no juice to the
01:26:44.080
It feels as though they have kind of lost their their points of opposition.
01:26:47.680
And so they're kind of sitting there in weirdly disparate fashion with signs that read different
01:26:55.140
And and we're supposed to take away from that that they're they're unified.
01:26:57.880
The only points of unity they seem to be able to find in opposition to President Trump
01:27:01.240
were at one point they tried to start a chant of January 6th, which is so played out as
01:27:06.040
And then again, when they applauded Ukraine, which which, again, was less about their love
01:27:10.660
of Ukraine and much more about their belief that President Trump is a cast ball of Vladimir
01:27:14.780
So as far as the speech itself, you know, I think that it is very clear that President Trump
01:27:19.680
was focusing in on two really, really big themes, aside from the tariffs, which I heard
01:27:24.400
you guys talking about the two big themes that he kept coming back to.
01:27:27.440
And he actually did come back to them multiple times.
01:27:29.380
He actually would go away from them and then come back to them again.
01:27:33.760
And I think that that was actually a really smart strategy because it is the greatest single
01:27:41.820
The stats that he was citing are extraordinary.
01:27:43.660
And when President Trump brought that up and talked repeatedly about the damage that criminal
01:27:48.140
illegal immigrants have done in the country and kept going back to that, that is a huge
01:27:54.640
And then the other big issue was, of course, one that is all near and dear to our hearts.
01:27:57.940
I mean, obviously, we all care about illegal immigration, but the one that maybe the Daily
01:28:00.500
Wire has taken the lead on as a company more than any other company in America is the trans
01:28:09.900
And we had the pleasure, Matt and I, of sitting next to Riley Gaines, who, of course, has also
01:28:13.040
been a big sort of character in pushing forward the notion that traditional sex actually
01:28:18.620
is the metric for how we measure human beings in terms of, for example, sports.
01:28:23.360
And the energy in the room for those two issues was extremely high.
01:28:27.160
He gave what I thought was properly short-trifted foreign policy, actually, because he is a
01:28:32.320
He said, we're going to strengthen the military.
01:28:35.880
We're going to build Golden Dome, which is a take on Iron Dome, even though Iron Dome,
01:28:39.960
for the record, is actually a system for shooting down short-range rockets.
01:28:42.960
And Golden Dome would be presumably a large missile defense system designed for shooting
01:28:46.400
down, say, supersonic, sort of low-altitude Chinese missiles.
01:28:54.420
He kind of talked about that, but it was all domestically focused.
01:28:57.080
And I think that's totally appropriate for a president who is, in fact, domestically focused.
01:29:01.320
And I know you guys are talking about the tariffs.
01:29:03.480
It's interesting to see how he's playing the tariffs, and it'll be interesting to see how
01:29:06.720
The big question going forward, I think, for both the economy and for President Trump is
01:29:10.020
whether the key word in the phrase reciprocal tariff is reciprocal or tariff.
01:29:15.180
So if the key word there is reciprocal, I think that, you know, what he's going to do
01:29:19.200
is what, Jeremy, you were talking about, leverage other countries to lower their own tariffs
01:29:23.160
in order so that we can get our tariffs lower, and then more free trade for everyone, yay,
01:29:27.740
If the key word there is tariff and not reciprocal, meaning what he actually just likes are the
01:29:31.960
tariffs, economic theory and history tell that that is a dicey proposition.
01:29:37.680
And you can see the effects on the stock market almost immediately, right?
01:29:41.600
I mean, you've seen it over the course of the last couple of days alone when Dow Jones
01:29:45.920
So, again, that is a dicey game that he's playing right there if he's fighting inflation.
01:29:52.000
Large-scale tariffs tend not to lower inflation.
01:29:54.540
They tend to increase, you know, sort of prices of goods and services because you're limiting
01:29:57.540
supply while leaving demand exactly the same, which obviously increases prices.
01:30:02.420
And then the question is just going to be whether it is a leverage play or whether it is a
01:30:05.580
principle play that he sort of likes tariffs and has a vision of the world in which everyone
01:30:09.080
reshores to the United States and we export but we don't import, which, again, I think
01:30:14.520
that is likely to result in some pretty dire economic side effects.
01:30:18.040
Well, this is to me the most interesting question because the guy is a good poker player and it's
01:30:24.780
You know, on the one hand, there are people, though I know it's unfashionable in our day
01:30:29.160
and age, but there are people who make a serious principled economic argument for tariffs and
01:30:34.680
there's a long history of tariffs in the Republican Party.
01:30:36.800
Going back to Abraham Lincoln, who said, give me a tariff, I'll give you the greatest country
01:30:40.040
Now, that obviously fell out of favor in the middle to the latter part of the 20th century,
01:30:43.200
but there is a world in which, and Trump has been, I think, advancing this view, that
01:30:48.340
he really believes as a matter of principle in tariffs and many of his economic advisors
01:30:57.080
He has promoted free trade, global free trade, for, you know, many years of his career.
01:31:02.420
And so there is also a view that he's kind of bluffing.
01:31:07.020
But the thing is, if he's bluffing, he's doing so in an extraordinarily persuasive way,
01:31:13.340
which is his great strength on the global stage, is his unpredictability.
01:31:18.000
So if you are an adversary of the United States or a trading partner of the United States that's
01:31:22.220
kind of maybe ripping us off a little bit, and you're trying to read Trump right now,
01:31:26.500
at least 10 to 20 percent of you has to think, the guy might just love tariffs, and I better
01:31:35.200
Yeah, and it is, it does, I don't know, I'm a simple man.
01:31:38.420
When you tell me that they're putting a 275 percent tariff on milk going out, but we can't
01:31:43.220
put anything on, you know, and I think, well, why not?
01:31:46.980
It's all part of Trump's we're not your daddy strategy, you know?
01:31:49.680
Like, we are not here to just support the world.
01:31:52.760
And we have been treated like that, especially by Europe, but we have been treated like that
01:31:56.760
We're supposed to show up, but they don't have to show up for us.
01:31:59.580
And Trump's, you know, it may be garish, it may be a little boorish to say, what's in
01:32:07.460
I mean, I think what's in it for us is actually a pretty good pitch.
01:32:11.840
I think the thing that we do have to remember, however, is that we are also, there is something
01:32:17.200
in it for us, which is namely that our gigantic national debt is actually funded by other
01:32:23.960
I mean, so it turns out that actually there are two sides to the story.
01:32:27.060
It's not just the United States funding everybody else.
01:32:28.940
The reality is that everybody else is also funding us by holding the dollar as the global
01:32:31.860
reserve currency and then holding bonds that they can easily transfer into dollars.
01:32:35.000
So again, economics is a bit of a sensitive game.
01:32:38.320
And, you know, the one thing, and this is the thing that I really fear for President Trump's
01:32:42.960
administration, the one thing that can send things south, because the Democrats are so
01:32:51.140
When it comes to the trans issue, they've completely lost it.
01:32:54.280
When it comes to illegal immigration, they've completely lost it.
01:32:57.800
The one thing that could really hurt Trump is an economic downturn.
01:33:03.040
President Trump more than most, because he's seen as a pro, correctly, as a pro-business
01:33:07.320
And so anything that can be done to avoid an economic downturn is the thing that he really has
01:33:11.120
to do, the good news about Trump, I think, is that even if he loves tariffs, like adores
01:33:14.520
them, President Trump also, even more than that, likes good headlines and does not like
01:33:19.640
And so if the economy starts to go south, this is one area where President Trump will stick
01:33:24.140
Though, again, even on that point, Trump seems to, in recent weeks, and even in that speech
01:33:29.340
tonight, be preparing the American people for some potential short-term economic challenge.
01:33:35.440
He says, look, it's going to be a little tough in the short term.
01:33:38.260
So, again, I don't exactly know how to read it, because that might just be him bluffing
01:33:45.680
really well to say, no, I am really serious about Trump, because I understand the implications.
01:33:53.940
I don't think that Donald Trump is fundamentally ideological.
01:34:00.500
And so I think that one of the reasons that he is so unpredictable is because everyone assumes
01:34:06.720
that there is some other motive at play, when in fact it may just be as simple as, the thing's
01:34:14.580
And if somebody comes back to me, and there's a better deal to be made in the future where
01:34:18.420
I take the tariffs off because something good's happening, then that'll be the thing that
01:34:22.580
I don't know that he's, I don't know that Trump is sophisticated.
01:34:28.200
I'm actually saying it kind of as a good thing.
01:34:30.000
Like, I just don't think that he is, I don't think that he is that.
01:34:33.660
I think he has this way of looking at things in a general way that seems, it seems unsophisticated,
01:34:40.580
He can't have won as often as he's won and be unsophisticated.
01:34:46.860
He thinks in a gestalt style that everybody calls gut politics.
01:34:50.220
But it's really a way of seeing the world in total.
01:34:53.620
And sometimes, I do believe that sometimes even he hasn't got his whole strategy worked
01:34:58.080
Look, there are going to be some bad headlines.
01:34:59.700
You cannot bring down inflation without increasing unemployment.
01:35:04.080
And I notice nobody's talking about unemployment because it always goes up when inflation goes
01:35:10.500
So they're waiting, lying in wait so that when it goes up, they can hit him with it.
01:35:15.480
Happened to Reagan when he brought down inflation.
01:35:17.320
The unemployment went up and it cost him his majorities in the legislature.
01:35:22.720
But still, I do think he has an idea of what he's doing.
01:35:28.260
I think he makes a deal and takes an extreme position knowing that's not where he's going
01:35:41.080
I certainly don't think that it's a bluff because, I mean, I agree with Drew that I think
01:35:44.100
Trump thinks in a, his great appeal is that he thinks in a very simple way, which is not
01:35:51.160
I consider myself to be a simple guy in a lot of ways, which is just, you look at an
01:35:56.560
Well, why should they slap us with higher tariffs than we put on them?
01:36:02.080
It's a pretty, it's the same thing with Zelensky.
01:36:03.980
He visits the White House and it's like, hey, we gave you all of this.
01:36:08.920
And so if we're going to give you this, then we expect something in return.
01:36:12.600
It's, you know, in that case, it's kind of similar to the, you know, I say to my kids
01:36:18.060
all the time, you're in my house, you know, you're under my roof, it's my food, you're
01:36:25.900
I gave you javelin missiles and you're going to listen to me.
01:36:31.220
I give you all the weapons, so you're going to play by my rules.
01:36:34.200
So, and I think most people hear that and think, yeah, well, it kind of makes sense.
01:36:42.680
By the way, credit to Zelensky for recognizing that he really, really needed to put out a
01:36:48.540
I mean, seriously, like Zelensky blew that meeting on Friday in a massive, massive way.
01:36:53.920
I went through on my show, like the entire details of that meeting, like went through
01:36:57.300
all 50 minutes of that particular meeting and Zelensky really blew it.
01:37:01.640
And then today he came back and he said the thing he was supposed to say, which is we're
01:37:09.960
And so tonight, instead of President Trump spending half the speech shellacking Zelensky
01:37:13.460
in Ukraine, instead, President Trump did what he does, which is he pocketed the victory.
01:37:17.640
And again, this goes, I think we're all saying very similar things here.
01:37:20.780
I don't think that President Trump, when it comes to these policies, is sitting there
01:37:25.220
thinking, okay, if I make, if I move my rook here, they're going to move their knight
01:37:29.000
And then if they move their knight here, I'm going to move my bishop here, checkmate.
01:37:32.640
The way that he thinks is much more like, I'm going to do this thing.
01:37:36.340
And if you respond in the way that I want, then we can make a deal.
01:37:39.180
And if you respond in the way I don't want, I'm going to hit you.
01:37:42.980
Most policy can actually get done fairly well that way.
01:37:46.180
I will say, I did enjoy the break with tradition that was pretty evident from the beginning
01:37:50.900
I think this is what he meant when he said, remember, he had to put out this truth social
01:37:55.820
And everybody's like, I don't know what that means.
01:38:01.100
But it's, but you know, I think what he meant, I'm going to speak plainly.
01:38:04.620
What he meant was, I'm just going to, if I feel like banging on the Democrats, I'm just
01:38:08.800
When he started off right at the, I mean, it was hysterically funny.
01:38:11.240
When he started off right near the top and he said, listen, I've been doing this for five
01:38:14.440
years, five years, five times I've come to you.
01:38:22.120
And it cuts through the bullshit of the entire sort of evening, which is, you know, propped
01:38:30.900
I've spoken on the program a thousand times about how much I generally hate State of the
01:38:35.140
I will say it was kind of funny because it felt like kind of a post-State of the Union
01:38:40.800
It was kind of like, I don't think that it was just funny, although it was certainly funny.
01:38:45.140
I don't think it was just plain speak and shellacking the Democrats, although it was certainly
01:38:49.140
It was also a perfect trap that he put them in because once he said, they cannot clap
01:38:55.100
for me no matter what, he took all the tools that they had.
01:38:58.680
I mean, this is the reason all their shenanigans basically fizzled out in the first three minutes
01:39:02.580
because what was left once he had already established, here's how the game's going to
01:39:07.520
When he promoted no tax on tips, a policy that the Democrats stole from him and campaigned
01:39:13.940
on, and they couldn't even applaud for it, they looked absolutely ridiculous.
01:39:17.940
Had he not made those remarks at the beginning of the speech, they would have clapped for
01:39:23.580
By the way, I agree that Trump has a good gut and everything like that, but I do think
01:39:32.540
That was clearly a trap, and it worked very well.
01:39:35.980
I don't mean that he doesn't have strategy, but it's not the same kind of strategy.
01:39:40.440
I can't remember which one of you guys said it, but he's not talking about a chess game.
01:39:43.940
He's more talking about a kind of, like I said, a gestalt, an atmosphere that he knows
01:39:47.940
how to move through, and he does it really expertly.
01:39:58.940
There were a lot of things that we were chuckling at in the room, for sure.
01:40:01.540
Yeah, I'll say that this was my first time I've been in a room for, actually in the room
01:40:07.040
And, you know, I knew he was a really funny guy, but that's one thing you appreciate
01:40:11.140
when you're in the room, it's just kind of the energy of it and sort of the aside comments.
01:40:14.200
And, I don't know, being in the room, you kind of-
01:40:18.800
Yeah, I mean, at the very beginning, they're clapping for him, and he actually did the Trump
01:40:22.480
I mean, could you- I don't know if you guys can see that on camera.
01:40:26.100
When they were doing the- when they were giving, like, the big ovation, I don't know
01:40:28.280
if they're panning in the crowd or whatever, he literally stepped to the side of the
01:40:37.080
At the MSG rally right before the election, I noticed it was the first time I'd seen him in person,
01:40:42.580
I think, certainly that close, but I think maybe in person.
01:40:45.160
And he gets up on stage, and I realized, oh, I get it now.
01:40:56.780
And there was- speaking of these great little moments and these great little asides, there's
01:41:00.800
one that no one is talking about, but it killed me, which is that Trump was talking
01:41:04.700
about illegal immigration, and he goes, and these people, you know, coming over, murderers,
01:41:10.640
human traffickers, and then he just points to the Democrats in the room, like, these
01:41:15.560
murderers, human traffickers, and I go, well, you know, shoe fits, man.
01:41:22.460
Truly the most entertaining State of the Union-
01:41:26.360
And, you know, I had a kind of sadness watching it because Donald Trump's not a young man.
01:41:33.200
Like, this- we are- we are in the end of whatever this is, and, you know, four years is a long
01:41:38.460
We get to take- we get to enjoy the ending of it.
01:41:45.160
But it was the first time that I felt a kind of nostalgia for Donald Trump, and I was feeling
01:41:48.920
it while he's still president because we will never see anything like this again.
01:41:53.500
It's- it's going to be- well, it's going to be the- the last great administration of
01:41:57.380
my lifetime, but it may be the last great administration of your lifetime, too, because
01:42:01.420
Though I am hopeful for the- the reign of Baron Octavian Augustus Trump, and I don't
01:42:06.280
know if it'll be exactly like this, but- but, you know, Augustus was actually better than
01:42:13.340
Fellas, I know it's late in D.C., and you have shows to do tomorrow.
01:42:17.080
Thanks for coming back after fighting your way through whatever mob there was and signing autographs
01:42:22.960
for Congress people, and Boebert, I know, there's just all kinds of weirdness that you
01:42:27.280
guys had to- had to deal with, but it was a good night.
01:42:35.240
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01:42:52.580
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01:43:06.520
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01:43:10.580
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