The Michael Knowles Show - Dr. Axe EXPOSES Health Myths & Conspiracies ｜ Michael Knowles YES or NO

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00:01:02.080 The most accurate here for thousands of years

00:01:03.480 has been looking at somebody's tongue

00:01:05.280 to tell what's going on with their health.

00:01:06.680 I don't know how vibrant my tongue is.

00:01:08.180 Okay, let me, okay, ready?

00:01:09.280 Yep, let's see it here.

00:01:10.520 Welcome to Yes or No, the bibulous battle to discover who knows whom better.

00:01:27.900 My guest today is Dr. Josh Axe.

00:01:30.260 How do we play?

00:01:31.560 I will ask Dr. Axe, say that five times fast, a yes or no question.

00:01:35.760 He will select his answer away from my prying eyes.

00:01:38.020 Then I will guess how he answered.

00:01:39.920 If I guess correctly, I get a point.

00:01:42.460 If I guess incorrectly, I lose a point.

00:01:45.220 No matter what, I will probably end up drinking.

00:01:47.980 Then it's his turn.

00:01:49.260 Neither of us have seen the questions beforehand.

00:01:51.400 Whoever has the most points at the end wins.

00:01:53.400 The stakes could be higher.

00:01:55.820 Let's get started.

00:01:57.560 Dr. Axe, thank you for coming on the show.

00:01:59.680 Thanks for having me.

00:02:00.500 So I can't help but notice, because you're a doctor and you're healthy and fit and everything,

00:02:05.140 you have a nice, responsible glass of tea.

00:02:07.680 I do.

00:02:08.480 And I have enough gin to kill an elephant.

00:02:11.780 So I'm going to be drinking for the two of us.

00:02:13.780 All right.

00:02:14.200 All right.

00:02:14.600 Do you know the rules?

00:02:15.840 I think so.

00:02:16.900 Well, that makes one of us.

00:02:17.860 That's good.

00:02:18.560 I know.

00:02:18.800 Yeah, I'm iffy on them. 1.00

00:02:20.720 So if you were a woman, I would say you go first. 0.98

00:02:23.060 But since you're a man, I will go first. 0.99

00:02:24.900 Okay. 0.97

00:02:27.340 Does fluoride in the water do more harm than just turning frogs gay? 0.99

00:02:33.700 So now... 0.98

00:02:34.660 Yeah.

00:02:35.380 Yeah, I think it does.

00:02:36.900 Okay, now hold on.

00:02:37.520 Oh, that's right.

00:02:37.900 And I'm glad you told me that.

00:02:39.160 So you're going to lock in your answer.

00:02:40.420 That's right.

00:02:41.320 I think you would say verbatim, yeah, it does.

00:02:48.100 I got it right.

00:02:49.060 All right.

00:02:49.540 Here we go off to a good start.

00:02:50.620 There we go.

00:02:51.000 Does it?

00:02:51.480 Why?

00:02:52.500 So the issue with fluoride is, and this can happen with numerous different types of,

00:02:57.020 whether it's a heavy metal or compound, but doing excess is going to actually be a neurotoxin

00:03:03.440 over time.

00:03:03.940 And so, listen, I think if somebody brushes their teeth on occasion with fluoride toothpaste, it's really not that big of a deal.

00:03:10.000 The problem is that it's in our toothpaste, it's in our water supply.

00:03:13.140 And when you're drinking, I mean, think about the amount of water we drink and we bathe in and how much we use on a regular basis.

00:03:18.020 This is why, by the way, my wife, she wants me to drink a lot more water, and I don't.

00:03:22.240 I drink alcohol and coffee, black coffee, sometimes a fruity millennial seltzer or something.

00:03:27.780 But I, so now you're telling me the water's bad for you.

00:03:30.680 Yeah, well, I'm telling you, the water's good.

00:03:32.740 All the stuff we add to it isn't good.

00:03:35.180 So, yeah, no, the fluoride in the drinking water,

00:03:37.160 actually, I did an episode on this not too long ago

00:03:39.080 on all the other chemicals in our drinking water.

00:03:41.740 We've got estradiol, which is estrogen in our drinking water.

00:03:45.360 So talk about making frogs or people more, you know,

00:03:48.560 changing their biology in a big way.

00:03:50.860 There are, I mean, there are numerous chemicals.

00:03:52.820 Where does that come from? 0.97

00:03:53.660 I read somewhere that basically women's birth control ends up in the water.

00:03:58.280 It does, and that's estradiol.

00:03:59.360 That is it.

00:04:00.140 That is it, yeah, for the most part.

00:04:01.580 So, yeah, I mean, we don't even, I mean, I don't even know necessarily how it's getting in the water, but it's there.

00:04:09.220 That's very scary.

00:04:10.480 Yeah, and, you know, when somebody has excess estrogen for men, it lowers their testosterone.

00:04:15.340 For women, estrogen gets high, progesterone stays low, higher incidences of breast cancer, major hormonal issues, infertility.

00:04:23.200 I mean, that's another big thing going on.

00:04:24.640 But I think for men in particular, when you have estradiol in your drinking water, it's tied to this decline of, I mean, men's testosterone levels have declined by 50% over the last 50 years.

00:04:38.180 I mean, so we're talking about dramatically, especially for men in their, you know, in their 30s.

00:04:42.380 You know, if it's just judged on the amount of tap water that one drinks a day, I'm going to be He-Man.

00:04:46.940 I'm going to be G.I. Joe.

00:04:48.180 My testosterone is going to be through the roof.

00:04:50.660 I might die of other conditions like dehydration or something.

00:04:53.460 but that, okay. All right. Yeah. You're up. Okay. I'll clear my answer. All right.

00:05:00.900 All right. Next question here. Whoa. Is having low T the male version of the dog ate my homework

00:05:09.320 for men who don't work out like Michael Knowles? Okay. Real nice. He gets one of these jibes in

00:05:16.180 like almost every episode about how I do. He calls me butter soft. He calls me a soy boy

00:05:21.400 because I don't work out. I'll deal with Mr. Davies later. Okay, my answer.

00:05:32.120 Correct. I have a buddy of mine. In fact, he might be in this room right now. He's a giant guy.

00:05:39.020 He's tough. He works out. He's all these things. Comes from Eastern Europe. But he was dealing

00:05:43.940 with some of these issues, probably environmental factors. I don't know what. And I said,

00:05:47.700 it can't be just he doesn't work out. It can't be just that he's not a big, tough guy.

00:05:51.400 There's obviously something else going on.

00:05:54.500 Yeah, so, you know, we run blood work in my clinic.

00:05:56.820 So I see, I mean, thousands of, you know, blood tests a year.

00:06:00.040 And men constantly come in with low testosterone.

00:06:02.800 But one of the bigger issues is they come in with low free testosterone.

00:06:07.340 And the free testosterone is sort of what your body is able to utilize.

00:06:10.860 And there's this other hormone called sex hormone binding globulin that goes and actually binds to your testosterone.

00:06:17.660 So it can't be used.

00:06:19.160 And one issue today that's causing it, so one is the high estrogen.

00:06:22.340 We talked about that.

00:06:23.120 So, like, even the clothes we're wearing, people wear a lot of polyester constantly.

00:06:26.760 Polyester has microplastics.

00:06:28.280 Those get into our skin.

00:06:29.480 I mean, it's something like the average human being consumes a credit card worth of plastic a week.

00:06:37.020 And so, and this is from, I mean, so much plastic bottles and Tupperware and chemicals and all the things we're exposed to regularly.

00:06:43.100 So, the estrogen going up, I mean, that's a major problem due to all these microplastics.

00:06:47.160 microplastics. The other issue is mineral depletion. So if men are low in magnesium,

00:06:52.020 vitamin D, here's another big one, boron. Boron? What's boron? It's a mineral that almost nobody 0.95

00:06:57.880 knows about. Yeah. But it's really important for male hormone production. And zinc's another huge

00:07:03.880 one. In fact, most studies show vitamin D and zinc, if men are low in those two in particular,

00:07:08.340 their testosterone will be substantially lower. So a lot of men are just, they're eating a lot

00:07:14.140 of processed foods, maybe not enough organic meat. I mean, our ancient ancestors were eating

00:07:18.380 liver, you know, I mean, they were, you know, so I get into a good pate. I'm a foie gras man.

00:07:23.320 Okay. There we go. So, so all that being said, if men would start eating more, I think a lot

00:07:28.840 more organic meat, getting some of the vegetables like broccoli in their diet, spinach, those types

00:07:32.680 of things, that's going to have a lot of those minerals in there. And the other thing is,

00:07:36.320 it's just spending more time outside. Huge. Vitamin D is huge for, it's actually typically

00:07:41.100 called not just a vitamin, a pro-hormone, because it's essential for actually creating

00:07:45.140 more testosterone.

00:07:47.400 So Popeye, totally vindicated on the spinach.

00:07:50.080 Totally.

00:07:50.740 I don't really exercise almost ever, other than chasing my kids around, but I do sit

00:07:55.980 outside a lot to smoke cigars, and I have this swarthy skin.

00:07:58.300 So I hope my vitamin D is okay.

00:08:00.220 It seems like every guy, though, goes to the doctor, and immediately, you walk in the door,

00:08:03.640 they say you have a vitamin D deficiency.

00:08:05.220 Oh, yeah.

00:08:06.060 It's the biggest deficiency, just because, I mean, our ancient ancestors, you know these

00:08:09.460 stats probably pretty well, but it's like up until, I want to say around 1900, it was like 50%

00:08:15.640 of professions had some level of, you know, agricultural, you know, relationship. And so

00:08:23.540 that's just not there anymore. So we just, we're spending a lot less time outdoors. By the way,

00:08:27.600 on the smoking thing, can I mention something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you want to- Hold on,

00:08:31.120 is it about how good smoking cigars is for you? All right, nevermind, we're moving on.

00:08:34.300 But it's a helpful thing here.

00:08:36.580 If a male is smoking cigars, the two biggest needle movers at detoxifying the smoke are taking a supplement called sulforphane.

00:08:44.600 This is found in cruciferous vegetables.

00:08:48.060 Okay.

00:08:49.140 And the other one is one called N-acetylcysteine, which boosts glutathione.

00:08:52.200 So if you can boost glutathione and you can eat more of these sulfur-containing vegetables like the cruciferous vegetables, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage,

00:09:00.980 Those two things, by far more than anything, will help detoxify.

00:09:04.520 Now, listen, I'm not saying it's totally, you know.

00:09:06.060 You're giving me a pass.

00:09:06.800 There's no side effect.

00:09:07.540 I'm clipping this, I'm giving it to my wife.

00:09:08.820 That's great.

00:09:09.560 But I am saying it is the top thing that will help offset those side effects.

00:09:12.880 Maybe I'll just start.

00:09:13.780 Is that what you do in the show a long time?

00:09:15.160 You know, I want you to hear a long time.

00:09:15.660 Yeah, no, thank you.

00:09:16.620 I appreciate that.

00:09:17.380 Maybe I'll start putting some of that, like, spinach or something in my cigars.

00:09:21.340 Because I know there are a lot of people on the left who put something that looks like spinach in their cigars.

00:09:25.200 And it looks like broccoli, actually, sometimes, too.

00:09:27.060 But I don't want that.

00:09:28.000 I don't want the sin spinach.

00:09:28.960 I want the good stuff, the good cruciferous vegetables that will detoxify me.

00:09:33.120 That's a good hack.

00:09:34.680 Yeah.

00:09:35.680 Okay.

00:09:36.680 You're up.

00:09:37.680 No, I'm up.

00:09:39.680 Okay.

00:09:40.680 Now, before we get to this question, there's a video prompt.

00:09:47.120 You do meth.

00:09:50.120 Yeah, I haven't done meth in two weeks, but I do meth, yeah.

00:09:57.880 Why do you do meth?

00:09:59.200 Meth is very similar in terms of its makeup to something like Adderall, but it's got a

00:10:07.640 little bit better psychoactive benefits.

00:10:11.760 And the reason I also like it to be longer-acting for a Lux-Mex in context is stimulants cause

00:10:16.600 appetite suppressants.

00:10:17.600 But you're a big guy.

00:10:19.280 In other words, don't you need a lot of calories to...

00:10:23.120 Well, no, I'm trying to maintain my leanness,

00:10:26.500 because the leaner you are, the more angular your face.

00:10:33.100 There are downsides to math.

00:10:35.120 It's not a good idea to do what I'm doing.

00:10:37.420 I just really wanted to ascend hard.

00:10:39.380 Why are you doing it?

00:10:40.640 Because I have enough willpower to be able to taper off of math.

00:10:46.440 So the question, if someone wants to ascend quickly,

00:10:51.200 that is to Luxmax and to Mog, are clavicular's enhancement methods, including bone smashing,

00:10:59.300 hitting yourself in the head with a hammer, still healthier than using a GLP-1 peptide like Ozempic?

00:11:05.840 I've got to guess what you would say. 0.98

00:11:08.240 Is meth and hitting yourself in the head with a hammer still better for you than Ozempic? 0.83

00:11:12.580 That's actually kind of a harder question. 0.87

00:11:13.720 I think you're going to come down hard anti-meth, even if it makes you slightly pro-Zempic. 0.70

00:11:23.480 Okay. 1.00

00:11:24.540 Yeah, you're right.

00:11:25.280 I mean, now, listen, I had to think about it for a second, but listen, it just, I mean, yeah.

00:11:31.240 So a lot of these meth, and he's right, it's similar to Adderall, methamphetamines.

00:11:36.420 uh, they, they are, they are, you know, they're, they're stimulants that over time actually start

00:11:43.540 to degrade your dopamine, uh, and your serotonin. So they're really, so long-term actually, I think

00:11:48.160 they can be linked to depression and a number of different types of mood disorders. So it's not

00:11:52.740 ideal. I mean, you know, a lot of people are playing with low doses of things of different

00:11:57.940 types of like mushrooms, for example, of a psilocybin, micro dosing, micro dosing. That's

00:12:03.400 the that's the term and and listen of course it's less harmful than doing the full dose

00:12:08.180 uh but overall yes still not a fan and i think over time it's going to sort of degrade and cause

00:12:13.820 issues with a number of hormones and neurotransmitters that's going to have bigger

00:12:18.020 side effects that being said i'm not a glp1 fan in high doses now micro dosing that at least i

00:12:25.960 like better because micro dosing is typically one tenth of a dose it may kind of curb the cravings

00:12:31.220 for people. But, you know, the studies on GLP-1s of people are losing about 40 percent, one study,

00:12:36.980 50 percent of their muscle mass is what they're losing. And so some people are losing, you know,

00:12:42.840 20 pounds of muscle. And when you lose that much muscle, I mean, it's aging your body very quickly.

00:12:48.240 I mean, your muscle is a longevity organ. It acts as an organ for insulin, for blood sugar. So if

00:12:53.600 you're losing muscle, and it's way harder to put muscle back on than fat. I mean, that's the

00:12:57.980 For some people.

00:12:59.260 I mean, for some of us, you know, it comes on so easily.

00:13:02.240 I've noticed this with the people who take Ozempic.

00:13:04.540 They look old.

00:13:06.140 Yes.

00:13:06.480 They get older.

00:13:07.620 Yeah, that's right.

00:13:08.560 They do get thin. 0.98

00:13:10.300 We call it Ozempic face and Ozempic butt. 0.91

00:13:12.640 Yeah. 0.98

00:13:13.020 So you have the most muscle mass on your butt and your leg.

00:13:15.960 And so that's where you'll lose the most.

00:13:17.980 And so people are starting to lose their curves.

00:13:19.680 I mean, part of that, there's an attractiveness to that in men and women.

00:13:22.440 And, you know, and that's because it's your muscle.

00:13:24.440 And so, but yeah, it's, yeah, GLP-1s, the other thing it's causing is malnutrition.

00:13:30.800 And that's where you'll start to see people, they'll get a little bit of sunken in looking,

00:13:33.860 and that's where you're talking about that aging happening there.

00:13:36.180 And that's malnutrition.

00:13:39.080 It's causing things to move so slowly through your digestive tract that it's also causing

00:13:44.720 poor absorption of nutrients likely.

00:13:46.300 So there are, we don't even know this.

00:13:48.040 I mean, the studies on Ozempic and GLP-1s are like a year old.

00:13:53.260 I mean, we don't have any long-term studies.

00:13:55.660 It's going to get worse and worse as time goes on.

00:13:57.920 And the thing is, people just need to eat protein and fiber.

00:14:00.620 I mean, that'll fix it.

00:14:02.360 Yeah, but you can't shoot that up really.

00:14:04.280 That's true.

00:14:05.240 I've never done a hard drug ever,

00:14:07.980 even though I've been offered hard drugs a bunch.

00:14:10.160 I thought it's kind of crazy.

00:14:10.920 I thought hard drugs were expensive.

00:14:12.000 Why are you trying it?

00:14:12.620 But all these people, like, they offer you Coke.

00:14:15.540 I say, I don't want any Coke.

00:14:16.580 And then they say, well, here's some Adderall.

00:14:18.700 It's like Diet Coke.

00:14:19.720 You say, well, that, I don't know.

00:14:20.800 It seems better than the Coke or whatever, but now, yeah, and meth, I don't, I'd like

00:14:24.540 to avoid it.

00:14:25.160 Yeah.

00:14:25.640 I have enough teeth.

00:14:26.300 Agreed.

00:14:26.640 You know, I have staining on my teeth because of the cigars.

00:14:28.900 I don't need teeth falling out of my head because of the meth.

00:14:31.280 Okay.

00:14:31.600 Yeah.

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00:16:15.500 who I want to say worships science. And he said, you know, it's due to science that over the past

00:16:23.200 100 years, our lifespan has increased so much. And it was so interesting because when a lot of

00:16:29.120 people don't realize this, I know you do, but probably the biggest thing that's increased

00:16:33.100 lifespan historically is improved sanitation and the bible really teaches sanitation better than

00:16:40.060 any other book out there today and so it's so interesting that people will give science the

00:16:44.540 credit which is really a methodology it's not even a it's a system that's worshipped but the bible

00:16:49.740 has been teaching this since the beginning of time okay so now what's the so the question is this

00:16:54.780 will you michael knowles admit the jews were right the whole time

00:17:03.100 yes you know why though you know the crucial word were it's not that the jews are right they

00:17:13.340 say a lot of things now some things they say are are look the jews are very successful in lots of

00:17:18.620 fields much of their food is delicious like pastrami and uh hamantaschen they're very very

00:17:24.840 good they get a few things wrong these days uh sort of crucial things pun intended but yes no

00:17:31.080 absolutely they were right the whole time because they're the chosen people of God in the Old

00:17:36.460 Testament. So yeah, like even I read somewhere, I mean, I heard this from a Jewish friend of mine

00:17:41.320 that they do the circumcision on day eight or something like that. And then science comes in

00:17:47.780 later on and says, oh, actually your blood is most likely to coagulate in an infant right at the time

00:17:53.860 that they start doing the circumcision. You say, well, that look, Jews are very good scientists,

00:17:58.020 But that might just be aligning natural science with divine revelation.

00:18:02.720 Yeah.

00:18:03.200 Well, what's interesting about circumcision is, you know, the vitamin K shots.

00:18:07.200 I mean, this is a very controversial subject right now.

00:18:10.360 And there are more and more people skipping vitamin K shots because, like, did God design a child's body to just not have enough vitamin K?

00:18:18.760 I mean, is that a real issue?

00:18:21.140 Right.

00:18:22.460 It was weird.

00:18:22.920 No, it's not.

00:18:23.420 I mean, there might be a small subset of the population where there's a nutritional deficiency.

00:18:27.600 But for the most part, it's absolutely unnecessary.

00:18:29.840 Yeah.

00:18:30.300 You know, when my first kid was born, we're in the hospital, and they say, we're going to pump your kid full of vitamin K.

00:18:35.220 I think we might have gone along with that one.

00:18:37.580 The one we didn't go along with, they said, and we're going to give your kid a hepatitis B shot.

00:18:41.420 Oh, it's crazy.

00:18:42.100 And I said, well, I don't think my kid is going to any whorehouses or shooting heroin or something.

00:18:47.240 So why? 0.91

00:18:48.400 And they didn't have a good answer other than they said, well, maybe your husband cheated on you.

00:18:52.060 What?

00:18:53.440 Excuse me?

00:18:54.100 One way to ensure that the vitamin K happens like it should is once a baby is born, not to immediately cut the cord.

00:19:02.040 Wait about 10 to 15 minutes.

00:19:04.440 And they say a lot of certain nutrients are passed on to where actually you're more likely to not need vitamin K.

00:19:13.580 Interesting.

00:19:14.320 Yeah. 1.00

00:19:14.600 That's got to be a very uncomfortable 10 or 15 minutes for mama. 0.99

00:19:17.940 You're just sort of waiting there.

00:19:19.360 But I think they probably don't notice that much.

00:19:22.660 I don't know.

00:19:23.340 I'll let my wife speak to that one or yours. 1.00

00:19:25.220 We'll just stay out of that.

00:19:26.620 Yeah, I kind of want to go back to the real old days when the guys didn't go into the delivery room

00:19:30.800 and we'd be sort of pacing in a blazer, kind of nervously, often smoking, actually, in the hospital.

00:19:37.100 Those days are gone.

00:19:38.480 So did you do a home birth or did you do both in the hospital?

00:19:42.260 We did.

00:19:43.040 They've been all in the hospital, though not to be TMI, but the first one was an emergency C-section.

00:19:48.860 Second one we tried for a natural one again, but that didn't work.

00:19:53.040 Same issue, same time.

00:19:54.760 So now we're kind of like totally hospital-pilled.

00:19:57.460 But, you know, I have friends who've done the home birth, and some of them, they say it's like, you know, they walk down, sit in the little kiddie pool, and five seconds later, their kid's out.

00:20:07.040 Yeah, I mean, that's what my wife Chelsea did.

00:20:08.840 I want to say our loss was maybe like 37 minutes just in a, you know, hot pool in our bathroom and comfort of our own bed.

00:20:17.740 It was great.

00:20:18.280 That's pretty nice.

00:20:19.200 Yeah.

00:20:19.560 Because the hospitals are not very comfortable at all.

00:20:21.460 No.

00:20:21.640 And then they come in and try to shoot your kid up with, like, heroin addict drugs.

00:20:24.440 That's right.

00:20:24.880 Exactly.

00:20:25.340 And not everybody can do it, but if you can, it's a great way to go.

00:20:27.860 Yeah.

00:20:29.460 I'm up.

00:20:30.780 Yes. 0.96

00:20:32.740 Is it easier to remove microplastics from your body naturally than it is to convince women to stop wearing yoga pants? 0.76

00:20:41.420 What would you say? 0.57

00:20:42.560 Definitely the hardest question.

00:20:43.780 Yeah.

00:20:44.200 Is it?

00:20:44.640 I find it very easy, actually. 0.94

00:20:46.440 Is it easier to remove microplastics from your body naturally without a medical intervention than it is to convince women to stop wearing yoga pants? 0.99

00:20:56.420 I think this one's pretty obvious. 1.00

00:20:58.240 Yeah, obviously for sure.

00:21:00.860 I mean, I'll just give you an example.

00:21:02.940 So my wife and I were on vacation at 30A this last week.

00:21:05.560 Yeah.

00:21:06.180 And I had brought something up because I've switched almost 90 plus percent of my clothes over to wool.

00:21:10.980 Yeah.

00:21:11.200 I wore wool and organic cotton.

00:21:12.760 and um and i brought up something about trying to find her wool yoga pants because we were walking

00:21:19.960 by the store aloe like it's like a like a lululemon competitor or whatever and i think she looked at 1.00

00:21:24.960 me like i had a like i had a third eye so so all that but i know well since my wife is incredibly

00:21:29.860 natural and and she she does she's she's made a switch to a lot of these things as well i mean

00:21:34.400 listen there's a number of uh a number of places we're getting all of the microplastics from i

00:21:40.260 I mean, microplastics, as I talked about, a credit card a week is how much people are eating.

00:21:44.500 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:44.980 And that's not even counting the ones that we just voluntarily eat because they're so delicious.

00:21:48.900 That's right.

00:21:49.140 You know, so in addition to that, you're getting a whole unintentional credit card.

00:21:52.480 That's right.

00:21:52.840 Yeah.

00:21:53.160 That's right.

00:21:53.840 So, but, you know, they are absolutely destroying testosterone levels of men and really harm

00:21:59.100 estrogen in women.

00:21:59.880 So, it's, so I think, I think being, but they're in our clothes.

00:22:03.800 Like, there are companies, if you look at, again, Lululemon and a lot of these other

00:22:07.080 companies, there are a lot of microplastics and all these polyesters that, and they'll, you know,

00:22:11.920 let's say you're a woman doing hot yoga. Yeah, yeah. You know, the amount of perspiration and

00:22:16.080 the amount of heat, what's going on with those plastics rubbing against your body is pretty high.

00:22:20.740 Now, I found a flaw in your argument though, because you said the polyester yoga pants are

00:22:26.400 causing a decrease in testosterone in men. However, I remember the first time I considered

00:22:30.680 this question, I was, this is tell and tales at a school literally. Yeah, yeah. I was about 12 years

00:22:35.020 old. And I remember a 12-year-old boy suddenly becoming aware of a lot of things. I remember

00:22:40.080 I was taking a standardized test in seventh grade. And I remember thinking these girls

00:22:44.380 who were at that time beginning to wear these yoga pants. I said, this is a completely unfair 0.99

00:22:48.960 advantage for the girls. They're going to do better on the test, maybe on the SAT than 1.00

00:22:52.880 I am, because I am going to be distracted by the yoga pants. It was, however, shooting

00:22:58.140 my testosterone through the roof. There was no question about that. So it's obviously

00:23:01.520 a little give and a take here.

00:23:02.780 Yeah, that's true. 1.00

00:23:03.160 But you cannot convince the women. 1.00

00:23:05.060 I go, I fly around 1.00

00:23:06.140 on a lot of airplanes.

00:23:07.240 You know, I'm in the airport a lot.

00:23:08.420 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:08.660 Women dress for the airport 1.00

00:23:10.160 like they're going to bed 1.00

00:23:11.600 with their beloved.

00:23:13.400 And they're wearing,

00:23:14.280 and I think I've got to,

00:23:15.320 I've got to avert my eyes.

00:23:17.040 I need custody of my eyes.

00:23:18.280 I'll miss the gate for my flight.

00:23:20.060 It's crazy.

00:23:20.980 It's crazy.

00:23:21.640 Yeah.

00:23:21.800 I mean, especially, you know,

00:23:22.840 if you've got millennials

00:23:23.660 and Gen X

00:23:24.580 and it's 100% yoga pants 0.67

00:23:27.440 all the time,

00:23:28.160 yoga pants to, you know,

00:23:29.360 date night,

00:23:29.960 yoga pants to travel.

00:23:31.280 Yeah.

00:23:31.520 Oh, I say only yoga pants for the private date night, the date night at home, but not at the restaurant, not at the public restaurant.

00:23:37.440 That's too much.

00:23:38.360 Right.

00:23:38.820 And, and I love the idea of like super 120s, like really nice quality wool for the, that's like now, now we're getting both.

00:23:45.640 That's what I'm talking about.

00:23:46.220 You know, I had a Ali Bestucki on my, on my show once and, and, and she was talking about how, I mean, you know, I work at a lifetime fitness sometimes here in Nashville and people are wearing, you know, you know, bathing suits and bras to the, to the gym.

00:24:01.060 I got, I'm telling so many bawdy tales out of school, but like one time my wife was going to

00:24:06.740 one of these workout classes for girls. But now, because we have to pretend men and women are the 0.94

00:24:10.980 same, some guy shows up, a guy who's probably a little light in the loafers, you know, a guy who

00:24:15.460 kind of fell as a long handshake, you know what I'm talking about? And a little bit like Paul

00:24:19.860 Lind on Hollywood Squares. So anyway, he, this guy shows up to the girls dance, workout class,

00:24:26.800 whatever, wearing like yoga pants, effectively wearing tights, but which look a lot worse on a

00:24:33.700 guy than they do on a, and it was very, but you're not allowed to say anything. So this is obviously

00:24:38.840 wrong and abusive and just disordered. His testosterone must be in the gutter.

00:24:44.260 Yeah.

00:24:44.880 Oh yeah. I think that's a problem. I mean, I think, I mean, you've seen some of these studies around,

00:24:48.780 uh, uh, you know, men who, um, have low testosterone, have more feminine characteristics.

00:24:55.500 They tend to be more liberal.

00:24:56.680 Yeah, right.

00:24:57.160 I mean, those are facts.

00:24:58.420 Right.

00:24:58.860 I know.

00:24:59.480 I initially was very skeptical of political psychology, this field.

00:25:05.020 I had friends who were studying this in school.

00:25:07.000 And political psychology, I disagreed with because I said, no, politics is a matter of reason.

00:25:12.860 So we come to our ideas and we think through them.

00:25:15.420 We're rational creatures.

00:25:16.980 So you shouldn't just blame it on your biology.

00:25:19.760 You know, you're a human being capable of reason, so I should be able to persuade you of my political views.

00:25:25.220 But I've, I've come around on this, which is that guys with the low T who are wearing the yoga pants, who are like, there are environmental factors here that obviously incline people in different ways.

00:25:36.820 It's like the relationship between biology and your intellect, it's probably a little bit closer than I previously thought.

00:25:44.600 Well, you know, what else is crazy is, you know, you, you look at some of this, uh, birth control pills as an example.

00:25:50.140 And this one can be, you know, pretty controversial, but birth control pills, you know, that's causing estrogen to go up to where women think that they're pregnant.

00:25:58.060 And what that's doing is, I mean, I've had so many women who come in after getting off birth control and their gut is a mess, major candida issues, all kinds of health problems.

00:26:05.980 But there are also studies showing if when women are on birth control, that can negatively affect the man and their hormones, infecting their testosterone.

00:26:16.240 Like from kissing or something?

00:26:17.780 How does the...

00:26:18.380 I don't know.

00:26:19.100 I don't know.

00:26:20.140 Look it up.

00:26:22.100 That's scary.

00:26:22.500 Well, look, I'm a mackerel-snapping papist, you know,

00:26:25.860 so we're totally opposed to artificial birth control of all kinds.

00:26:29.220 Right.

00:26:29.760 All right, that's good. 0.70

00:26:30.980 Another argument in favor of nix the contraception, be fruitful and multiply. 0.57

00:26:37.160 Amen. 0.90

00:26:37.700 All right.

00:26:38.160 Agreed.

00:26:39.020 You're up.

00:26:43.820 Does pursuing a strict longevity lifestyle to live past 120 years

00:26:50.020 have roughly the same odds of success

00:26:52.820 as going to Yankee Stadium

00:26:54.580 and betting a 43-leg parlay

00:26:57.400 just without all the delicious foods and drinks?

00:27:01.180 Hmm.

00:27:01.900 Wow, a very complex question.

00:27:05.340 How would I answer that?

00:27:08.580 Yes, obviously.

00:27:10.120 But people, I've noticed this,

00:27:12.700 especially increasingly,

00:27:14.220 all these guys,

00:27:15.140 they really want to optimize.

00:27:17.860 Which, look, it's good to live healthier.

00:27:19.920 Even I, and I'm not that into it.

00:27:21.600 Even I, I'd like to stick around a while.

00:27:23.800 I like my kids.

00:27:24.860 I like my job.

00:27:25.840 I like what I do.

00:27:26.480 So I'd like to do that.

00:27:28.480 I remember, I think it was 20 years ago or something, I saw a special on people who were on a low-calorie diet.

00:27:34.280 These guys who were cultish about it.

00:27:35.760 They said, we've restricted our calories to 800 calories a day because that minimizes cellular damage.

00:27:41.880 And in theory, this should allow them to add 10 years or something to their life.

00:27:46.080 And I thought, I kind of doubt that that's actually how it works.

00:27:48.960 but let's say that is how it works. What's the point of living? I mean, at a certain point,

00:27:55.360 like, what are you living for? You know, I mean, something I found in taking care of, I mean,

00:27:58.620 thousands and thousands of patients is there is a, you, you definitely had a level of decline

00:28:04.160 when you obsess about your health. Yeah. You know, it's like Chelsea and I, we'll take vacations.

00:28:09.100 As I mentioned, we went to Europe last year and you know what? I had some gelato. Yeah. I had

00:28:14.780 bread. I had pasta. We enjoyed it. And we still do that. You know, we still do that back here

00:28:19.220 or something. So there's no doubt that, you know, following the 80-20 rule or the 90-10 where it's

00:28:24.720 like, hey, you know, you do want to eat healthy. And you know, this is a good Catholic and

00:28:27.960 Christian. It's like, hey, our body's a temple of the Holy Spirit. There's this level of we're

00:28:31.600 going to care for it. At the same time, you don't want to be obsessive about it because it's only

00:28:36.740 going to harm your health. It does seem to make an idol out of things. And this idea, you see this

00:28:43.480 with the tech people now too. They say, we're going to live forever. And we're going to upload

00:28:48.220 our brains to the cloud. And we're going to get all these weird robots on us. And I just think

00:28:52.600 like, hey, buddy, first of all, it's not going to happen. Like ancient pharaohs were talking about

00:28:57.160 that and it didn't work out well for them either. But let's say it did. Like, buddy,

00:29:01.400 I have a way for you to live forever. I actually know a great way. Like we were actually promised

00:29:06.640 eternal life and you don't need to eat some dumb diet and fill your head with robots in order to 0.76

00:29:13.300 do it that's right you know there's a couple people in particular brian johnson's one yeah

00:29:17.280 dave asprey's another i think those guys and and i don't i don't believe any of i'm pretty certain

00:29:22.980 neither of them are christian i don't want to speak to that but i just i think that there's

00:29:26.200 but but there those are the two i hear saying the most we're going to live to be 150 or 180 years old

00:29:31.980 and um and but also there's this level of obsessiveness at least in brian johnson of

00:29:37.740 i'm going to do everything perfectly and everything right there's this great meme on on social media

00:29:42.660 where they're saying, here's Brian Johnson, and here's the, you know, 90-year-old Sicilian,

00:29:47.720 you know, man on the beach who's going to live to actually be 120 in this, you know.

00:29:51.740 So no joke, you can look at the blue zones of like where people live to be.

00:29:55.820 And one of the key blue zones is Sardinia.

00:29:59.360 Sardinia, yeah.

00:30:00.060 Sardinia, where these people are basically living in the fields.

00:30:04.020 You know, they don't have a particularly lavish or abundant diet.

00:30:07.480 They have very hard work. 1.00

00:30:09.440 And these little old Italians live to be like 300 years old.

00:30:14.060 That's amazing. 0.98

00:30:15.180 Yeah, part of that, too, when they did that Blue Zone study,

00:30:17.200 one of the biggest reasons they believed it was is it's a little bit hilly, the terrain,

00:30:20.320 and they bike and walk everywhere.

00:30:21.940 Yeah.

00:30:22.500 And just that activity level and then eating kind of the same local foods every day,

00:30:26.400 lots of sunshine, stress-free living.

00:30:29.580 Yeah, I saw the Brian Johnson thing.

00:30:31.120 I don't even totally know who that guy is, but he keeps showing up on my social media.

00:30:34.600 is this guy who says he's going to live a thousand years.

00:30:37.720 And he said, look at how good he looks

00:30:39.560 compared to how he used to look.

00:30:40.860 And the only difference I can really tell

00:30:43.140 is I think he dyed his hair.

00:30:44.820 But I actually, he doesn't look all that much better

00:30:47.240 than he did five or seven years ago.

00:30:48.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think so.

00:30:50.540 The thing that bothered me is he, for a while,

00:30:54.280 he took his son's blood and infused it into himself.

00:30:59.080 So this is a process you can do.

00:31:00.640 You can take the blood of someone else.

00:31:02.820 Typically, you don't take the blood of someone else.

00:31:04.320 So you take your own blood and you concentrate, it's called PRP, platelet-rich plasma, inject it in yourself, and there are healing factors in the blood.

00:31:14.360 You can concentrate those healing factors in your blood and put it back in your blood.

00:31:18.180 But he was doing it with his son.

00:31:19.600 In fact, there's a Bible verse, and it says, healing is in the blood.

00:31:23.680 And so I do believe that having good, healthy blood is very important for overall health.

00:31:30.320 But I thought, well, if you're taking the healing factors from your son and putting it into your own body, what does that do into your son?

00:31:39.340 Yeah, because I remember, again, I'm not as scientifically educated, but I remember there was a case of an elderly person sucking up the blood of the young in order to extend his life.

00:31:50.400 And I believe that person's name was Dracula.

00:31:53.240 I was going to say vampires.

00:31:54.440 Yeah.

00:31:54.820 There you go.

00:31:55.180 Yeah, do not, like a rule of thumb for me, don't model your life after vampires.

00:32:00.380 Agreed.

00:32:00.960 I think it'll work out better.

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00:32:56.440 Josh, it is now time for the rapid-fire round.

00:33:02.120 We changed the lights for it.

00:33:03.500 That's how you know we're in the rapid-fire round.

00:33:05.000 Three questions, 30 seconds, no time to outthink each other.

00:33:08.520 Wow, the score is tied.

00:33:10.460 Three to three.

00:33:11.940 This could change everything.

00:33:13.460 Okay.

00:33:13.820 Are you ready?

00:33:14.260 Let's do it.

00:33:14.840 Okay.

00:33:16.020 Rapid-fire.

00:33:17.460 Are seed oils actually fine for you and simply the government's favorite cooking lubricant?

00:33:22.920 Here's what I think. It's important to define seed oils.

00:33:25.800 Cold-pressed flaxseed oil, absolutely fine.

00:33:28.560 If you're doing highly processed seed oils, they're not the best.

00:33:31.880 But in some cases, they might be better than saturated fats for some people.

00:33:35.900 So all that being said, do extra virgin olive oil as your go-to oil.

00:33:40.480 The Italians did it. It's working for them. 0.98

00:33:42.080 Yes.

00:33:42.740 Okay, now hold on.

00:33:44.100 Now you need to put your answer down on this.

00:33:46.200 So I would say your answer,

00:33:48.440 are seed oils actually fine for you?

00:33:49.800 Based on-

00:33:50.640 Oh, no, no, actually, hold on.

00:33:51.640 Wait, hold on, wait, hold on.

00:33:52.640 I was about to cheat and-

00:33:53.800 Okay, so here-

00:33:55.760 Wait, okay, so hold on, now you're,

00:33:57.760 so I think you're now gonna say,

00:33:59.300 cause of that, hold on, I think you're gonna say no.

00:34:01.480 No.

00:34:02.320 Yeah, okay, wow, that was a journey that we just,

00:34:04.820 they're not fine for you.

00:34:05.760 But here's the thing, so I know I just had 30 seconds,

00:34:07.740 so give me 30 more.

00:34:08.700 Yes.

00:34:09.540 Seed oils are not healthy for people

00:34:12.180 when they are highly processed, hydrogenated seed oils.

00:34:16.460 However, there's this big debate going on.

00:34:18.180 By the way, this is a massive health debate

00:34:20.140 between the Maha people and the people that are generally,

00:34:23.840 you know, more of the conventional medicine science.

00:34:26.320 Like, you give an example, there's a guy named Lane Norton 1.00

00:34:28.540 and then there's a whole group of Mahars 0.99

00:34:29.760 and they're always arguing about this. 0.98

00:34:33.260 Lane is somewhat right in that when you look at the research,

00:34:35.760 doing a lot of saturated animal fat,

00:34:37.480 which is what a lot of the carnivore people,

00:34:38.800 like Paul Saladino, they love it

00:34:40.240 and they're talking about it all the time.

00:34:43.020 Generally speaking, sometimes the animal fats are going to be worse for you than the seed oils are.

00:34:49.660 And that really bothers the carnivore people.

00:34:51.460 Because I heard from RFK Jr.

00:34:53.740 RFK Jr. goes around and he says, like, saturated fat is awesome.

00:34:57.480 You should drink it in your morning coffee.

00:34:58.900 I don't think he quite said that, but that's a version of that.

00:35:01.060 Yeah, again, I think it depends on the person.

00:35:02.660 I think if somebody's following a lower-calorie diet, more fruits and vegetables, mostly meat,

00:35:06.560 they can get away with more saturated fats.

00:35:09.000 And in that case, it's probably healthier for them.

00:35:11.000 But I think there's a whole group of people that if they're doing a lot of saturated fats and just staying away from seed oil, like different organs have to deal with different macronutrients.

00:35:20.120 So if somebody has liver issues, for instance, your liver has to deal with all that saturated fat.

00:35:25.060 It's even harder on it, probably, than seed oils.

00:35:27.520 All right. Well, we're going back to the palm seed oil, I think.

00:35:31.600 Exactly. So here's my ranking order.

00:35:33.880 Number one, extra virgin olive oil.

00:35:35.740 Number two, avocado oil.

00:35:37.260 Number three, coconut oil.

00:35:38.720 And then palm oil after that.

00:35:39.780 But those are the oils people should probably be focusing on.

00:35:42.140 That's my wife, my sweet little Lisa.

00:35:43.620 She's all about it.

00:35:44.460 The Virgin olive.

00:35:45.720 You know, she does some butter now.

00:35:47.060 She's added a little bit here and there, it's fine.

00:35:49.060 But olive oil, the avocado oil, coconut oil, it kind of tastes a little weird.

00:35:54.300 But OK, all right, all right, that's good.

00:35:56.160 All right, next question.

00:35:58.500 Very crucial one. 0.99

00:36:00.360 Are zin pouches clean nicotine and not fancier cancer mints?

00:36:05.700 Well, hold on.

00:36:06.140 OK, hold on.

00:36:06.800 There's two parts to that question.

00:36:08.680 Are Zin Pouches clean nicotine and not fancy cancer mints?

00:36:17.420 Well, ask it one more time.

00:36:18.800 Yeah.

00:36:19.460 I know how you want to answer, but that second part is important.

00:36:22.520 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:22.980 Are Zin Pouches clean nicotine, quote-unquote, and not fancy cancer mints?

00:36:33.000 You have to say yes.

00:36:36.520 No.

00:36:37.000 I said, no, what are you talking about?

00:36:38.080 the nicotine is not carcinogenic. Here's my opinion on this. Okay. So I'm an expert in

00:36:45.260 functional medicine. That's my biggest focus. But I also have a background in Chinese medicine.

00:36:49.020 Okay. So here's what they say about nicotine in Chinese medicine. It's very hot. It's very drying.

00:36:57.020 And over time, if you do it, here's the thing. If you're doing it once a month, if you're doing

00:37:01.380 every other week, it's not a problem. But if people are doing the nicotine every single day

00:37:05.520 like that. And the same goes for, by the way, you know, with some of the legalization of cannabis.

00:37:10.400 I just have to clear something really quickly. Yeah, sorry. And THC affects the body in the

00:37:15.940 same way. So there's some of these doctors or some of these people in the natural health

00:37:19.480 movement that would say, do as much, you know, THC is great. It's fine. And CBD. And then the

00:37:24.240 same with nicotine. They're probably fine in micro doses on occasion here or there,

00:37:29.280 and your body can tolerate it. But if you're doing it every day, as some people have started

00:37:34.500 because they just hear, oh, it's okay now, it's fine.

00:37:37.140 It's very drying, it's very heating.

00:37:38.940 It's gonna cause some health problems.

00:37:40.960 But is it gonna cause cancer?

00:37:44.000 I want my points back.

00:37:46.200 You know what? 0.96

00:37:47.400 Let's go!

00:37:48.240 Yes!

00:37:51.500 Look, I agree.

00:37:52.820 It's probably gonna cause more inflammation.

00:37:54.840 Not to say they couldn't cause cancer.

00:37:56.320 I'd be much more concerned with it causing a heart issue.

00:38:00.880 That's why I say to my friends, look, I prefer cigars.

00:38:03.600 And cigars are, I sound like an addict.

00:38:06.440 Cigars are actually not addictive.

00:38:07.900 I've gone long stretches without cigars.

00:38:10.020 It's really more for the taste and all that.

00:38:12.080 You get a little touch of nicotine, but not that much.

00:38:14.660 I had smoked cigars for 15 years

00:38:16.800 before someone ever got me hooked on those terrible pouches.

00:38:19.820 And I put one of those pouches in, and I said, watch out.

00:38:22.240 I said, oh, give me a break.

00:38:23.140 I've smoked cigars for 20 years.

00:38:24.120 I'll be fine.

00:38:25.080 I was green in the face instantly.

00:38:27.160 The amount of nicotine you get from a single little pouch

00:38:29.540 is orders of magnitude more than you're getting from a cigar.

00:38:32.320 And so I have friends, look, I dabble in them a little bit here and there, maybe a little more than here and there.

00:38:37.720 But I have friends who are doing, this is not an exaggeration, hundreds of milligrams of nicotine per day.

00:38:45.380 And I say, guys, that's like the equivalent of a carton of cigarettes sometimes.

00:38:48.800 And they'll say, no, no, no, don't worry, because it doesn't cause cancer.

00:38:53.340 And I say, well, the risks from cigarettes, it's not just cancer, you know, it's not just emphysema.

00:38:58.100 It does make your heart explode at a certain point.

00:39:00.300 Like, it seems not great.

00:39:02.320 yeah again in chinese medicine and they've got a really i i think chinese medicine is the most

00:39:06.800 accurate form of an ancient type of medicine uh that's done in fact if you look at japan today

00:39:13.120 who has the longest lifespan their form of medicine is really kind of a combination today

00:39:17.280 of functional medicine in this ancient chinese medicine but what it does in chinese medicine is

00:39:21.280 it they'd say it dries up your fluids so it's it's causing a cellular level of dehydration

00:39:27.760 that over time probably is going to increase your it's going to cause inflammation increase

00:39:31.680 your risk of heart disease now again i don't know i don't i haven't seen a lot of studies on nicotine

00:39:35.920 pouches and nicotine because they're like five minutes old that's the other thing they say it's

00:39:38.640 all healthy is that there are studies on it yeah i think i think we're going to see in the future

00:39:41.920 long-term use high dose use there's there's there are side effects yeah okay all right as long as i

00:39:46.480 get my points that's all i really care about yeah you're up wait no hold on i know i have one more

00:39:51.200 that's not right okay crucial question is arby's okay for you

00:39:58.720 the now the word is okay it's not as arby's really good for you is arby's okay for you

00:40:04.720 you're gonna say unfortunately for me you're gonna say no

00:40:10.240 growing up my favorite thing in the world was arby's five for five really oh yeah so i'd get

00:40:15.440 done with the soccer game or basketball you know and it's like we would go and eat i i look back

00:40:19.120 I'm like, how did I do that?

00:40:20.280 Yeah.

00:40:21.120 I would actually eat five.

00:40:22.320 Awesome.

00:40:23.160 Crazy, crazy.

00:40:24.160 I just do the D, B, and C.

00:40:26.020 Because when I was a kid,

00:40:26.920 they didn't even have the double beef and cheddar.

00:40:28.600 They only had, you get a medium cheddar,

00:40:30.300 but there's not enough of that plastic cheese sauce on top.

00:40:32.600 The ratios were off.

00:40:33.640 So now they do double the plastic cheese sauce

00:40:35.840 with double the plastic beef on that bun,

00:40:38.680 which is probably made of polyester.

00:40:40.400 And I used to love the horsey sauce that went with it.

00:40:42.340 You also had the Arby's sauce.

00:40:43.740 It's so good.

00:40:44.580 It sets your brain on fire, the horsey sauce.

00:40:46.020 Oh, yeah.

00:40:46.840 That's a neurotropic, I think.

00:40:47.840 Oh, yeah.

00:40:49.120 So let me break down mostly what's in there.

00:40:50.700 So you've got the bun, which is like pure white refined flour and gluten.

00:40:55.540 So I mean, that's just like a bomb going off in your body for your immune system.

00:40:59.140 And then you've got the meat, which is probably the most processed meat on the planet with,

00:41:04.860 you know, antibiotic residue and hormones and everything else.

00:41:08.240 And then you've got the cheese, which I guarantee isn't real cheese.

00:41:11.740 It's not.

00:41:12.740 It's not.

00:41:13.740 You know what I do to mine?

00:41:14.740 You know what I do to mine?

00:41:15.740 with that nice plastic beef and the cheese and then you know what I do?

00:41:19.240 I put a credit card on top of it and I just eat it up.

00:41:21.540 It's so delicious.

00:41:22.540 Exactly.

00:41:23.040 I can't.

00:41:23.540 And that's why your testosterone level is so high.

00:41:24.740 It's through the roof.

00:41:25.540 It's through the roof.

00:41:26.340 Okay, all right.

00:41:27.740 All right, now one more.

00:41:28.740 There's an extra one here.

00:41:31.240 From a health standpoint, would I be better off pulling a tooth

00:41:36.440 than getting a root canal?

00:41:38.640 Oh, I'm actually, because I've heard the stuff about this,

00:41:42.140 And you're hip to the jive and this avant-garde kind of health stuff.

00:41:46.720 I would probably, not that I want a root canal,

00:41:50.160 I guess I would be inclined to get the root canal,

00:41:52.580 but you're going to say yes, it's better to pull the tooth.

00:41:57.160 Yes, why? What's wrong with root canals?

00:41:58.780 So, root canals are very prone to infection.

00:42:01.440 I mean, I can't tell you how many people I know.

00:42:03.060 I literally just had a friend last week who had a root canal,

00:42:06.640 found out it was infected, and went and had it removed.

00:42:09.420 And now he feels amazing.

00:42:10.160 He was having symptoms of brain fog, major fatigue, just felt terrible for a couple of years and got the root canal fixed.

00:42:17.480 They put an implant and now he feels fine.

00:42:20.980 I mean, this is a little bit less, you know, this is not a human case study.

00:42:24.780 This is a animal case study.

00:42:27.040 We had a dog who, well, I guess he didn't have a root canal, but, you know, dental issues.

00:42:31.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:32.740 I mean, you get low grade infections in there.

00:42:34.560 And when you look at the medical literature, your dental health is so closely tied to your heart health.

00:42:40.160 I mean, the studies around dental, any sort of oral inflammation and heart disease is

00:42:45.360 radically high.

00:42:46.200 So the problem with root canals is you just have a really, really high degree of these

00:42:51.860 micro infections.

00:42:54.420 And typically, they're not the type of infections that are going to kill you immediately, but

00:42:59.740 it's a low-grade infection causing this constant inflammation that just causes systemic inflammation

00:43:04.300 of your cardiovascular system, increasing your risk of heart disease.

00:43:09.320 So I would rather have somebody pull a tooth than typically get a root canal in most cases.

00:43:14.880 Not to say, some people get a root canal and they're just fine with it, but there are a number of people.

00:43:19.480 There's no doubt that it increases the risk of infection.

00:43:21.500 Yeah, no, I've heard this, and I also, I didn't go to the dentist for like 10 years or something.

00:43:26.640 And we have heart disease in the family.

00:43:28.980 I thought like, this is not, and I smoke cigars, and I don't sleep that much.

00:43:33.680 And anyway, it's not good.

00:43:35.300 I need to like go to the dentist more.

00:43:36.880 But the brain fog thing got me thinking. I remember this a few years ago. I just, I was feeling tired all the time. You know, occasionally some brain fog, whatever. And I thought, is this because of some, I took an antibiotic. Is this because of this? Is it because COVID, whatever. Everyone's blaming everything on COVID. Do I have the longest COVID? But then I think, well, hold on. Also around that same time, I had my first and then subsequently second kid. And I work all the time and I'm always on airplanes.

00:44:06.200 So I said, should I blame it on, is it something I'm doing, like I just need to go brush my teeth more or something, or should I not be blaming my tiredness on that?

00:44:17.720 Well, I mean, I think the reality is this.

00:44:19.560 And by the way, this is something that people in the natural health space are absolutely guilty of constantly.

00:44:24.880 It's like, okay, well, I'm going to skip the sleep and not fix the stress, which are like the most foundation.

00:44:32.740 I mean, honestly, I think that stress and emotional and spiritual health are a greater

00:44:37.180 foundation to our health and diet.

00:44:39.160 Yeah.

00:44:39.440 I think diet sits on top of it, but I do think that stress piece, sleep, that's even more

00:44:43.500 essential.

00:44:44.060 Diet sits on top.

00:44:45.280 But with that, it's like, okay, well, I'm going to go and try biohacking and I'm going

00:44:49.640 to put a castor oil pack here and I'm going to, you know, do an IV and I'm going to be

00:44:53.980 in a hyperbaric chamber.

00:44:55.040 Those things are all great and beneficial. 1.00

00:44:56.980 You know what's way more beneficial than all these biohacks? 1.00

00:44:58.780 just getting outside in the sun, going on a nice walk and de-stressing and doing those things. 1.00

00:45:03.180 That's one of the reasons why, listen, I think you're going to live a long time.

00:45:06.680 What I see in you, you haven't got a really great disposition, and I think that's going to keep stress low.

00:45:11.700 And I think, I mean, that's a huge, it's huge.

00:45:14.100 I appreciate that because no joke, one of my arguments for the, you know, occasional cigar is I'm not denying that there are risks associated with tobacco.

00:45:24.300 One of my arguments for it is it is kind of a de-stressor and you read your book or whatever.

00:45:28.780 And even, forget about the cigars for a second, the other day, I was feeling stressed, professional

00:45:34.300 stress, political stress, all that.

00:45:35.900 It was, I could feel it in my body with all the family stuff.

00:45:38.460 And I took an hour or so, and I pulled out my ukulele, one of my greatest medical devices.

00:45:44.740 I just played my ukulele for a little bit.

00:45:48.560 Back to calm, back to zen.

00:45:50.820 I felt it was very beneficial.

00:45:52.580 I mean, one of the greatest things that gets, most people live in this, what we call this

00:45:55.920 parasympathetic state, fight or flight where cortisol and stress hormones are high, one of

00:46:00.160 the greatest things that come out of that is music, deep breathing, humming. I mean, you know,

00:46:05.780 a lot of monks, they actually do this chanting, both in the, you know, you know, the Catholic

00:46:10.400 faith, also Orthodox and even in Buddhist. That's right. And so, but I mean, there are studies

00:46:15.280 showing that's maybe the single greatest thing you can do to lower your cortisol. Can I tell

00:46:19.600 you something that people might make fun of me for right here? I walk around the office,

00:46:23.520 Even when we're doing tough business stuff, I hum and sing around the office.

00:46:28.340 Amazing.

00:46:28.700 I do.

00:46:29.380 People, they'll joke about it.

00:46:30.860 But it's kind of sometimes you got it in your head, you know.

00:46:33.000 Good.

00:46:33.360 All right.

00:46:33.680 That's great.

00:46:34.020 You're making me feel better about my own.

00:46:34.880 Yeah, you're doing a lot right.

00:46:35.920 Okay.

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00:47:10.520 Do you think cold plunging is better than acupuncture?

00:47:15.260 what do i think

00:47:17.940 no i say no i'm i'm open-minded i'm with i think it's the the cold plunging i think could be bad

00:47:29.340 for you it is bad for you it is okay for most people now let me see this it's not across the

00:47:33.000 board here's the thing let's say you got a male and he just finished a crossfit competition

00:47:36.840 and he's got major in chinese medicine they'll call this yang injury this yang energy or

00:47:42.720 inflammation or heat. The body's generating lots of heat. It will recover faster if you bring the

00:47:47.380 heat down and if you cool it off. So this is why Lance Armstrong and a lot of these professional

00:47:51.620 cyclists, they do ice baths on the Tour de France daily. So here's the thing. A lot of men in their

00:48:00.660 20s and 30s that are generating a lot of body heat and they're lifting weights, cold plunging

00:48:05.520 can be good for them. There's no doubt. I've seen a lot of anecdotal evidence where it's good for

00:48:10.100 testosterone actually for some men.

00:48:12.220 However, let's say you got a woman with hypothyroidism

00:48:15.600 or chronic fatigue syndrome

00:48:17.840 or people where they've got cold extremities.

00:48:20.880 Cold plunging is one of the worst things they could do.

00:48:23.540 It's actually can be really hard on the immune system.

00:48:25.780 And some of it is like, there's this old saying

00:48:28.360 that the dose determines the medicine or the poison.

00:48:32.180 For some people, if you want to build muscle,

00:48:35.920 trying to go in and trying to bicep curl 50 pounds,

00:48:39.140 like 50 pound dumbbells.

00:48:40.820 It's just too much for some people.

00:48:42.200 Start with five, then 10, then work your way up.

00:48:45.140 And then just do what your body can handle.

00:48:46.520 So if there is somebody and they have

00:48:47.640 a little bit of inflammation,

00:48:48.660 they're probably better off doing a 60 second cold shower.

00:48:51.220 Yeah, that's more my speed.

00:48:53.420 I can do that.

00:48:54.500 There was one time during Lent,

00:48:56.120 I said, I'll try that, I won't do hot showers.

00:48:59.200 And for me, that was, I mean,

00:49:01.060 it was like I climbed Everest.

00:49:02.800 I'm not the most physically adventurous.

00:49:05.580 But I felt like, okay, that's fine.

00:49:07.120 And then when the cold plunges started happening, 0.95

00:49:09.540 and all these lunatics like my producer, Mr. Davies,

00:49:11.700 started doing this every morning. 0.96

00:49:13.040 I thought, like, I don't know,

00:49:13.780 maybe if I just take the temp of the shower down to, like, 71.

00:49:18.680 I don't know.

00:49:19.260 Like, we're not even talking.

00:49:20.640 Like, maybe that's the way to do it, you know?

00:49:22.640 Yeah, and again, I'm not against cold plunging.

00:49:24.200 I think for some people it can be really beneficial.

00:49:26.540 But I think for the majority of the population, it's probably not.

00:49:30.060 But again, the people that tend to do the best with it

00:49:32.460 are athletes in their 20s, 30s, 40s that are men.

00:49:37.120 that are like for instance when they're sleeping at night they tend to get hot yeah you know or

00:49:40.720 they're or they're weight lifting a lot or exercising a lot they tend to do well with

00:49:43.920 cochlear yeah okay all right i'm not doing that all right clear is getting kids off red dye in

00:49:50.560 screen time better for treating adhd than medications what would i say yeah yeah certainly

00:50:00.720 with that no doubt the and is the key i don't know about the red dot you can fill me in on that

00:50:04.480 the screen time thing that is the big i see this with my own kids we we limit it other than baseball

00:50:10.000 season they watch a little baseball but otherwise we really severely restrict the screens flights

00:50:15.440 they get screens on flights yeah and you know maybe once a week a little something yeah and

00:50:21.600 when we're traveling or visiting you know family or what friends whatever and they do more screen

00:50:27.120 time their behavior totally shifts oh yeah yeah yeah i i totally agree now let me let me hit on

00:50:32.800 the red dye thing red dye is it's a minor i think there's majors and minors it's a minor for adhd

00:50:40.160 i've seen it cause issues with kids but it's not a major it was funny when rfk jr one of the first

00:50:44.960 things he did was come out and say food dyes are bad yeah and and banned some of them or recommended

00:50:50.400 banning some of them on his way to being banned i totally agreed with him i stood with him with a

00:50:54.240 lot of people and i think he's totally right some people started coming and criticized him saying

00:50:58.560 It's not a big deal.

00:50:59.640 Why are you doing that?

00:51:00.440 It's like, well, it's just low-hanging fruit.

00:51:02.560 I mean, sugar is a way bigger issue than food diets.

00:51:05.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:06.100 I mean, there's no doubt about it.

00:51:07.460 So, I mean, there's no doubt that that should be changed to a lot of the processed sugars.

00:51:11.040 But it is a problem.

00:51:11.900 But screen time is a bigger problem.

00:51:13.540 I mean, screen time, to your point, all the devices.

00:51:16.760 You know what's crazy on the sugar thing?

00:51:18.480 When I was a kid, I did not drink water really, almost ever.

00:51:21.500 Maybe eventually when bottled water was really popular, I started drinking plastic water.

00:51:24.860 But when I was a kid, I really didn't drink a lot of water.

00:51:26.900 I drank soda, diet soda especially,

00:51:31.580 and diet Snapple was basically my blood type

00:51:34.000 from my whole childhood.

00:51:35.180 I watched six hours of television a day.

00:51:37.720 I watched Nick at Night all night long.

00:51:39.620 That's probably why I, in a way,

00:51:41.320 it's kind of like I grew up in the 50s,

00:51:42.780 because I watched all these old shows on Nick at Night.

00:51:45.020 I did all these things that they say

00:51:46.780 you're not supposed to do.

00:51:47.960 And then I look at my kids, who don't watch much TV ever.

00:51:51.520 My kids have never had a soda.

00:51:53.620 They've never had one sip of soda.

00:51:55.600 I give them a little like fruity seltzer

00:51:58.040 and they think, that's like the big special treat,

00:52:00.100 they think they're having a root beer float.

00:52:01.440 Oh yeah.

00:52:02.600 It's a huge shift.

00:52:03.440 But then I think to my own childhood,

00:52:04.800 I say, well I drank, when I wasn't drinking sugar,

00:52:07.240 I was drinking aspartame

00:52:08.400 and getting visual migraines all the time.

00:52:10.040 I was ODing on TV and I turned out fine, fine maybe.

00:52:16.280 I don't know.

00:52:17.500 I think excellent.

00:52:18.400 You know, I was the kid growing up who had ADHD.

00:52:23.200 Really bad, had trouble studying in school,

00:52:25.220 I had a doctor who prescribed it.

00:52:27.480 I ended up taking it for three days.

00:52:29.380 I got prescribed it once Ritalin in high school,

00:52:32.120 then Adderall in college.

00:52:34.020 I took it for like three days and I thought,

00:52:36.040 I can actually tell it's changing my personality.

00:52:38.840 And I was like, something does not feel right.

00:52:40.640 So I just got off of it.

00:52:42.180 But similar to that, we talked about the meth earlier.

00:52:44.860 I mean, over time, Ritalin, it's very addictive.

00:52:47.400 It's actually one of the more addictive drugs

00:52:48.740 that they don't talk about, but it's not.

00:52:50.700 And there are things today that people can do.

00:52:53.120 There's so many herbals.

00:52:54.200 There's, you know, rhodiola and ashwagandha with MCT oil, with a number of other things that people can do.

00:52:59.540 Like these, you know, we call these nootropics.

00:53:01.960 Yeah.

00:53:02.160 They're just way better options today than the medications.

00:53:05.640 Yeah, I remember in college, I never did this, too.

00:53:08.800 I felt like it was cheating, kind of, because these guys who didn't have ADHD would just be popping Adderalls.

00:53:14.120 And they called them smart pills.

00:53:15.840 So you're going to pop a smart pill.

00:53:17.120 But then one thing I heard about them is a friend of mine decided to take Adderall before some exam or something, or before a paper, maybe.

00:53:24.200 And he was supposed to take the Adderall and write his paper.

00:53:26.920 But the problem was, he said, the thing with Adderall is you take it,

00:53:29.720 and then you just get really fascinated by whatever you're doing at the moment it kicks in.

00:53:34.920 So at that moment, he was watching YouTube videos,

00:53:38.120 and he just watched like every video on YouTube for the next 36 hours and didn't write his paper,

00:53:44.200 which seems like a very ineffective drug.

00:53:46.280 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:47.480 Okay.

00:53:48.840 Wow, this next one's the hardest one.

00:53:50.760 Hardest one we've come across from me.

00:53:52.120 All right.

00:53:54.120 Can alcohol be good for you?

00:53:58.020 Oh.

00:54:00.580 For sure, yeah.

00:54:01.540 Yeah, yeah, of course.

00:54:02.560 So here's what's interesting.

00:54:03.680 So there were all these studies in the past that said that, hey, a glass of red wine a night can be good for you.

00:54:09.440 I mean, I'm talking about for years and years and years.

00:54:11.520 And then all of a sudden, the past three years, everyone's like, all these doctors.

00:54:16.140 Everybody jumps on this bandwagon.

00:54:17.460 They jump on the bandwagon together, and they're like, no alcohol.

00:54:20.300 Even looking at it, putting a dip on your tongue is bad for you.

00:54:24.300 My belief is this, it's like, how does it impact your body?

00:54:28.300 You know, I was thinking about this as we were talking about the nicotine thing.

00:54:31.300 You know, Jesus turned water into wine.

00:54:34.300 His first public miracle.

00:54:36.300 Would he have turned grass into, you know, tobacco?

00:54:41.300 I think that a little bit of red wine on occasion, I'm talking about one glass or less.

00:54:48.300 glass or less. But I think doing a glass of red wine on occasion for some people, if they're

00:54:52.480 really stressed and bound up and it's able to help calm them down, that's fine. Now the problem is

00:54:57.440 it's so easy to abuse. So easy. But I don't, yeah, what do you mean? No, I, yes. And actually

00:55:02.740 you've gone even further than I would go. I would say, I don't know if it's good for your body. It

00:55:06.600 might not be good for your body, but maybe in a way, you know, a glass of red wine helps you

00:55:10.400 de-stress or something. But the reason I would say it's good for you, can be good for you,

00:55:14.960 is that it's a social lubricant.

00:55:16.920 You know, the point that it's

00:55:17.780 our Lord's first public miracle

00:55:18.980 tells you something.

00:55:19.840 You know, he turned water

00:55:21.480 into a lot of wine,

00:55:22.880 very good wine,

00:55:23.820 for people who had been drinking

00:55:24.840 for like five days at this wedding.

00:55:27.200 And so it can be good as a social thing.

00:55:30.080 It's very easy to abuse.

00:55:31.400 You know, I think it's a sin to be drunk,

00:55:33.680 but not that, you know,

00:55:34.940 on maybe more than one occasion

00:55:36.460 I've had a little bit too much.

00:55:38.520 But really, now that I'm an old man

00:55:40.340 and I have to like wake up the next day

00:55:42.300 and do work,

00:55:43.120 now I really try to avoid that.

00:55:44.460 But it is social, and we're social creatures.

00:55:48.220 So if you're, you know, like the kind of central human action

00:55:51.560 is breaking bread together,

00:55:53.140 and when you have a little wine with that,

00:55:55.080 it's very important, I think.

00:55:57.060 Yeah, you know, one of the things,

00:55:58.280 when I answer a lot of these questions,

00:55:59.600 I'm always thinking about what are the trade-offs

00:56:01.120 and the nuances.

00:56:01.960 By the way, this is one of the things I really love about you

00:56:03.800 and what a lot of the, the way that a lot of people think,

00:56:06.620 I think, that are more on the conservative level,

00:56:09.060 is you gotta think about what the trade-offs are.

00:56:11.240 There's wisdom.

00:56:12.080 Like, if somebody were to ask me, is a Snickers bar bad for you, of course I'm going to say, yes, it's bad for you.

00:56:16.900 But if you're straight on a desert island and have no other food and it's the only way to survive, is a Snickers bar better for you than starving to death?

00:56:24.500 Yeah, it actually is.

00:56:25.620 Right, right.

00:56:26.880 Is there, and even, like, if there's this thing called Halloween that once a year we all kind of engage in as a festival,

00:56:33.820 and it's a festival that is, at worst, about, like, demons and ghosts and devils and stuff,

00:56:38.860 And at best, it's about, like, we all just have a little candy together.

00:56:42.740 Probably having a little bit of candy one day a year.

00:56:45.840 That's for a festival.

00:56:47.640 It's like, it's probably fine.

00:56:49.040 Yeah.

00:56:49.340 And this is where, again, it's like, when it comes to health, I mean, the majors are so important.

00:56:54.200 It's like, eat healthier, but not perfect.

00:56:57.020 Yeah.

00:56:57.340 You know, sleep good, keep stress low, spend time with your family.

00:57:00.580 The biggest longevity study to date at Harvard, it's almost 100 years old now,

00:57:05.340 If I'm the number one factor for longevity is community.

00:57:09.880 You have close family, close friends, support.

00:57:12.780 I mean, so it's, you know, you got to focus on the majors.

00:57:16.420 Yeah, and of course, like, my wife reminds me of this a fair bit. 0.88

00:57:19.920 Like, married men live longer because their wives force them to. 0.98

00:57:25.860 Like, you know, I wouldn't go to the doctor. 1.00

00:57:28.360 I wouldn't eat 1,000th as well as I do eat. 1.00

00:57:33.160 I wouldn't, like, the women are a very civilizing force. 1.00

00:57:37.400 And that's true generally in community, but that's true. 1.00

00:57:39.600 When we get monkish, well, even the monks have community, actually.

00:57:43.800 When we get ascetic and, like, sort of desert fathers, I don't know,

00:57:46.620 they don't always live that long. 1.00

00:57:48.000 By the way, men having daughters, if you have a daughter, you live longer, too. 0.88

00:57:51.240 Let's go. Let's go. 1.00

00:57:52.500 Because I thought I was cursed that I could never have a daughter 1.00

00:57:55.100 because I just kept producing men because of my virility.

00:57:58.880 I just kept producing. 0.55

00:57:59.300 Well, and your high testosterone.

00:58:00.460 My high T was too dangerous.

00:58:01.660 It had nothing to do with it, but it's still a danger.

00:58:03.160 Yeah. But then now we have a daughter, you know, on the way. And I thought, this is great because

00:58:09.960 I don't know why the study said the men with daughters live longer, but I thought it's because

00:58:14.540 my three boys would let me live out my final years on the curb, on the street. They'd forget,

00:58:20.980 da-da-hoo. But my daughter, my beautiful daughter, you know, she's going to take care of me.

00:58:26.480 You know, it's funny. I had, after I had a couple of daughters, I, you know, Michael Hyatt, he's-

00:58:30.440 I know the name.

00:58:31.120 So he's a leadership expert here in Nashville,

00:58:33.080 and he has got five daughters.

00:58:34.380 I got another buddy, Isaac.

00:58:35.480 He owns a, it's called Five Daughters Bakery.

00:58:37.620 They make those healthy daughters.

00:58:38.500 Yeah, I love Five Daughters. 1.00

00:58:39.440 Amazing.

00:58:39.980 So I was hanging out with him this morning.

00:58:41.080 Very healthy food.

00:58:41.960 Yeah, and I asked those guys.

00:58:43.080 He's a nice donut shop.

00:58:43.800 And I was like, hey, what's it like having, you know, all daughters?

00:58:47.000 And basically both of them told me the same thing.

00:58:49.140 They said, here's the thing we've noticed with our friends that have boys.

00:58:51.740 The boys, once they get married, they just run off.

00:58:54.380 You hardly see them.

00:58:55.360 I mean, you'll see them some, but they said the girls, they stick around.

00:58:58.360 and they're always thinking about their dad,

00:59:00.760 taking care of you.

00:59:01.980 So the fact that if you got one daughter,

00:59:03.880 that's gonna go a long way.

00:59:04.720 I'm good, yeah, I know, I'm good now, okay.

00:59:06.760 All right.

00:59:09.160 All right, next question here.

00:59:10.440 Michael Knowles, do you think essential oils

00:59:13.560 are essentially voodoo placebos?

00:59:22.700 I mean, think about your wife on this one. 1.00

00:59:23.980 She's gonna watch this episode.

00:59:25.360 Yes, she is, I'm gonna say no.

00:59:26.800 I'm going to say, no, they're not voodoo placebos, because I don't think they're actively evil. 0.90

00:59:32.040 But I do wonder if they're kind of placebos. 0.54

00:59:36.000 You know, I think they're maybe morally neutral placebos. 0.91

00:59:39.840 Here's the thing.

00:59:40.400 I think there's a large group of people that think they do more than they do.

00:59:44.200 However, I mean, there's good studies.

00:59:46.240 For instance, there's a study done at Vanderbilt, and this wasn't like a double blind study.

00:59:50.340 So it wasn't like the highest level of study.

00:59:52.540 But people coming out of surgery, and I think the nurses included, had lower levels of stress when you were diffusing things like orange oil and some of the floral oils coming out of there.

01:00:02.860 You know, I think our sense of smell is greatly tied to memories.

01:00:05.700 It's actually really tied to stress levels.

01:00:08.320 So I do think there's an element of, especially when it comes to stress and sleep, probably the strongest studies around essential oils.

01:00:14.920 But then I thought all the healthy people say all fragrances are bad.

01:00:18.640 Like fragrance just in general.

01:00:19.940 I've heard this from some of my crunchy friends, that fragrance is always bad. 1.00

01:00:23.920 This is one where my wife, who's kind of a crunchy trad, she's very anti-fragrance.

01:00:29.100 I have a candle company.

01:00:30.800 I sell candles and my own candles.

01:00:33.340 We pay our mortgage on candles.

01:00:34.940 She doesn't want the candles in the house.

01:00:36.220 I see they're beautiful candles.

01:00:37.160 Yeah.

01:00:37.460 I think some essential oils here and there.

01:00:39.780 Listen, if you walk into a kitchen, you're going to smell such oils.

01:00:43.940 If you're smelling herbs, those are the volatile compounds from oils you're smelling.

01:00:48.260 So, I mean, they're not, again, I think in small doses, they're probably pretty good.

01:00:52.880 I saw, and this gets back to the nicotine thing, there's a product of nicotine mints that are supposed to be better than the other nicotine things.

01:01:00.580 And the flavoring is not from some artificial thing.

01:01:03.540 It's from essential oils.

01:01:04.780 But then I thought, wait a second, are we supposed to have essential oils in our mouths?

01:01:08.940 Are we supposed to eat them?

01:01:10.420 Is that fine?

01:01:11.160 Yeah, I mean, I think, so the dosages typically, I want to say, are around one drop, which is, I think, around 60 milligrams.

01:01:18.000 like lavender oil for example there's a sleep study on it improving sleep and insomnia and i

01:01:23.240 think it was around a 60 milligram dosage so it was it was essentially one drop of the oil

01:01:27.080 but um so so i do think doing them here or there in low dosage is probably fine but but i think

01:01:34.400 listen i think all of it comes down to the individual let me say this lavender too though

01:01:37.560 is more estrogenic so you know doing a lot a lot all the time is going to be a problem so i think

01:01:43.840 this is why like my big one of my biggest passions is personalized medicine like i think everybody

01:01:48.160 should be on a diet that's unique for them yeah and some of it's based on your ethnicity like you

01:01:54.100 should probably be eating you know lemons and tomatoes all day yeah i thought you were going

01:01:58.020 to say like carbonara you know well there i mean but but i i do think there was a study out of

01:02:02.980 japan that showed okay if you're japanese and living in the coast you're going to digest seaweed

01:02:07.880 better and raw fish better than somebody who's, you know, in middle America.

01:02:12.600 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:13.120 So there's no doubt I think everybody should have, be on a personalized diet.

01:02:16.860 And this is where sometimes people say, oh, my friend was on keto or carnivore or vegan

01:02:20.840 and that worked for them.

01:02:22.600 But oftentimes it doesn't work for the individual because everybody's unique.

01:02:27.360 Yeah, yeah, right.

01:02:28.160 So, yeah.

01:02:28.640 I need a diet of steady stromboli.

01:02:31.720 It's time for the final round.

01:02:33.480 The prompt will be read.

01:02:34.860 We will both lock in our answers for ourselves, then we will move our glasses,

01:02:40.860 we'll move actually the other guy's glasses, to yes or no, to see if we can read each other's minds.

01:02:45.860 This round is worth double points, it could change everything.

01:02:47.860 Because the score right now, seven even.

01:02:50.860 Wow.

01:02:51.860 Seven all.

01:02:52.860 Okay, so I'm gonna put one here, here we go.

01:02:55.860 Put yours right here.

01:02:57.860 Is big sunscreen causing more harm than good, including possible vitamin D deficiencies,

01:03:06.980 increased cancer risks, and suppressing natural alternatives like beef tallow?

01:03:11.620 Big sunscreen.

01:03:13.040 What are you going to say?

01:03:14.980 You're going to say, hold on, what am I going to say?

01:03:17.800 I know what I'm going to say.

01:03:27.560 We're going to say yes, is what you're going to say, and I'm also going to say yes.

01:03:31.280 Yes.

01:03:32.280 It is.

01:03:33.280 And I want...

01:03:35.280 Now, part...

01:03:36.280 You mentioned my Sicilian heritage.

01:03:37.280 Yeah.

01:03:38.280 I think my people have been in the sun for a very long time.

01:03:40.680 A long time.

01:03:41.680 It's okay.

01:03:42.680 I haven't...

01:03:43.680 I have generally not worn a lot of sunscreen.

01:03:44.680 Yeah.

01:03:45.680 Though I've heard seed oils can give you sunburns, I'd be curious of your thoughts on that.

01:03:49.120 But then, you know, they tell us you have to put on the sunscreen so you don't get cancer,

01:03:53.080 but then they tell us also the sunscreen gives you cancer.

01:03:56.440 Is that true?

01:03:57.440 So here's the rule.

01:03:59.360 You don't want to get burnt.

01:04:01.000 So here's what I think.

01:04:02.240 Do I think putting on sunscreen is probably better than getting burnt?

01:04:08.080 Actually, I do.

01:04:09.380 But do I think generally putting sunscreen on, if you're not going to get toasted or burnt, you're way better off not doing sunscreen.

01:04:16.840 Way better off.

01:04:17.620 What about, is there a difference between like you put on the banana boat versus you put on...

01:04:21.540 Well, that's the other thing.

01:04:22.180 I mean, like we just, you know, we were just in Florida.

01:04:23.900 We wore zinc oxide.

01:04:25.340 Yeah.

01:04:25.460 You know, it's typically called mineral sunscreen.

01:04:27.960 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:28.460 That's healthy.

01:04:29.060 That's safe. 0.97

01:04:29.480 It's like the old school one that kind of looks silly on your nose. 0.96

01:04:31.920 Yeah.

01:04:32.140 Well, now today they've found ways to like mix it with aloe and other things to where 0.86

01:04:35.520 you hardly see, you know, the white. 0.87

01:04:37.760 Yeah, yeah. 0.90

01:04:38.320 Okay.

01:04:38.820 Yeah.

01:04:38.980 All right.

01:04:39.320 Okay.

01:04:39.760 Yeah.

01:04:41.140 Final question.

01:04:41.780 This actually could change everything.

01:04:43.280 Wow.

01:04:43.640 All right.

01:04:43.860 You're up.

01:04:44.200 All right.

01:04:48.060 Wow.

01:04:48.460 is inflammation the scapegoat for everyone's health problems the same way that climate change

01:04:57.240 is blamed for everything in politics how are you going to answer

01:05:03.920 well first i'll figure out how i'm going to answer how are you going to answer

01:05:10.080 this is the whole game this is this is a big deal

01:05:14.120 you're going to say yes, and so am I.

01:05:18.880 Yes!

01:05:19.960 Oh!

01:05:20.980 I was the most unsure of that one.

01:05:23.220 That was close.

01:05:23.960 Yes, but it is, right?

01:05:25.780 Because they all do, again, I don't want to violate HIPAA here.

01:05:28.840 My wife goes in, she says, you know, whatever, I have a toothache,

01:05:31.340 and they say, it's inflammation.

01:05:32.480 She goes in, she says, I stubbed my toe the other day.

01:05:34.020 She says, yeah, well, it's inflammation.

01:05:35.680 That's all they say.

01:05:37.140 Yeah, you know, there's this practice that I do in getting to the root cause, 0.95

01:05:40.780 and so it's called, it's actually called the five whys. 0.88

01:05:43.700 It's just the Socratic method.

01:05:44.960 You just keep getting wide to where you ask.

01:05:47.120 You know, here's the reality.

01:05:48.460 Inflammation, it's not the furthest upstream.

01:05:52.080 It's more in the middle or close to upstream, but it's not the furthest upstream.

01:05:55.500 It's like, okay, why do you have inflammation?

01:05:57.660 Well, you have inflammation because it's almost always lifestyle.

01:06:01.260 You're eating too much sugar.

01:06:03.820 You've overcommitted yourself, and so you're really stressed out.

01:06:07.280 You know, again, you're wearing fake clothing made of plastics.

01:06:10.240 Again, that's always a minor thing.

01:06:11.420 That's not a major.

01:06:11.980 But, but those are the things. And then yes, almost all of those things cause inflammation.

01:06:18.620 Yeah.

01:06:18.820 So, so it's not, it's not the actual main thing that we need to focus on. Uh, now I will say for

01:06:26.060 some people, I mean, you know, focusing on reducing inflammation, if that is your focus,

01:06:29.660 you'll typically get dramatically healthier. Huh. But I still don't think it is the,

01:06:35.100 it is kind of the work for years. It's been like the main issue or driving everyone's talked about.

01:06:39.580 And I don't think it's necessarily, again, I think it's one level off of being the highest upstream issue.

01:06:48.040 What's the next one going to be?

01:06:49.300 You know, there's always some, it's like it was, when I was a kid, it was carbs.

01:06:52.960 It was like Dr. Atkins was the big one.

01:06:55.360 And then it kind of, now it's kind of back to that, actually, I guess, in diet, where they say, like, you need to go carnivore or whatever.

01:07:00.280 But now inflammation is the big health meme.

01:07:03.980 Do you have a prediction on what the next one will be?

01:07:06.660 Well, I know, well, I absolutely know what the next big thing is going to be in terms of, I don't know what the root cause.

01:07:12.060 Well, yeah, I do know both.

01:07:14.140 Number one, it'll be mitochondrial dysfunction.

01:07:17.000 So in your cells, you have mitochondria, and it's going to be cells.

01:07:19.580 The powerhouse of the cell.

01:07:20.540 I remember from seventh grade when I was looking at the yoga pants taking my test, yes.

01:07:23.620 So now we're going a level deeper than organ level.

01:07:27.000 So we have our organs, and then our organs are made up of cells, which are then made up of organelles, organs of the cell.

01:07:33.960 Yeah. So the mitochondria is basically the, it's the, it's the energy producing part of the cell. And so now you can do some tests for, and we do this, I do this in my clinic. We test for CoQ10 and, uh, carnitine and B12 and a number of factors that basically show your mitochondrial health function.

01:07:52.140 And I do think that's important. I think it's great for being able to know why somebody's fatigued and fix that issue. But of course, that's not everything, but that'll be the next big thing in terms of the root cause. And then the next big thing will be, of course, it's already here with its peptides. So it's not just going to be the GLP-1s. We already see the BPC-157 coming in. There are going to be all these different peptides, which peptides originally were found in organs and glands.

01:08:17.840 So BPC-157 is found in your stomach acid, in your stomach lining.

01:08:23.560 It's called body protective compound.

01:08:24.960 Are you familiar with this?

01:08:25.760 Not at all.

01:08:26.180 Okay.

01:08:26.600 I mean, I know of the peptide.

01:08:28.340 I know of the fat shot, but that's all I know about it.

01:08:29.780 Oh, so talk to your wife about this.

01:08:31.440 So peptides are going to be absolutely massive and huge.

01:08:35.880 And it's actually going to be a battle between the pharmaceutical companies and the natural

01:08:39.080 health industry.

01:08:40.380 Like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just, I want to say, made, he didn't legalize, he made them

01:08:45.180 not illegal, doing 12 different peptides now, but there are hundreds of them. But peptides are,

01:08:52.340 so you've got proteins, which are 50 chains of amino acids. And amino acids, a single peptides

01:08:58.160 are between two and 49 chains of amino acids. So they're like collagen. That's a peptide.

01:09:03.840 Creatine is a peptide. Clotathione is a peptide. But there are now all of these other peptides

01:09:08.800 that are, they're going to be huge. Believe me, it's going to be the biggest thing in

01:09:13.900 medicine over the next five years. I like the idea, though, of being really avant-garde. Like,

01:09:16.940 now all the Maha people are really like, we were talking about this for 10 years, whatever. And now 1.00

01:09:20.660 I'm going to just be like, yo, I'm the mitochondria guy. That's right. I'm the mito, because peptides

01:09:24.580 are already big, so, but I feel mitochondria is undervalued right now. Like, I'm going to go long

01:09:30.300 mitochondria. Smart. I'm putting, I'm going to put my credit card on the table on mitochondria,

01:09:34.920 and then you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to eat it up. One a week is what I'm going to do.

01:09:37.740 Dr. Axe, thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. The final score.

01:09:40.840 two men who could not have possibly been more correct, 11 to 11. Wow. We're actually so close

01:09:49.100 we can almost finish each other's credit cards. Oh, okay. So one of the oldest forms of diagnosis

01:09:56.900 was looking at somebody's tongue. Now today, right, in functional medicine, like in my clinic,

01:10:01.480 we do really advanced blood work. I can look at what's going on in your cell, test every organ.

01:10:05.560 And that's amazingly accurate.

01:10:08.400 But the next most accurate, and the most accurate here for thousands of years, has been looking at somebody's tongue to tell what's going on with their health.

01:10:14.680 So, for instance, if somebody has ridges on the side of their tongue, almost like bite marks, that's called a digestive deficiency.

01:10:20.180 It means your digestive system's weak.

01:10:21.880 If there's a coating on your tongue, we're familiar with candida, but that means there's some sort of overgrowth of a parasite or candida or microorganism.

01:10:29.680 If your tongue is too red, there's inflammation.

01:10:32.860 If it's too pale, it's a blood deficiency.

01:10:35.520 If the coating's only on the back,

01:10:37.900 there is too much microbes only in the colon.

01:10:40.800 There's an issue with your lower intestine.

01:10:42.500 Okay.

01:10:43.700 And so...

01:10:44.380 It sounds like I can't do anything right.

01:10:45.800 I know...

01:10:46.600 But if your tongue is perfectly clear

01:10:48.940 in sort of a bright, vibrant pink color,

01:10:52.020 then you're perfectly healthy.

01:10:53.080 What do you have to worry about?

01:10:54.820 I don't know how vibrant my tongue is.

01:10:56.320 Okay, let me... Okay, ready?

01:10:57.460 Yeah, let's see it here.

01:10:58.760 Okay, I see it.

01:11:03.760 So here's what's going on with your tongue.

01:11:05.760 Two little things, and these are easily fixable.

01:11:07.760 You need to eat a little bit more foods that are going to build your blood.

01:11:11.760 It was a little less pink than it should be.

01:11:13.760 And the other thing is your liver is a little bit overwhelmed.

01:11:17.760 It could be cigar smoke and alcohol.

01:11:20.760 It's called liver cheese stagnation.

01:11:22.760 But they're minor.

01:11:24.760 The liver one is the ridges?

01:11:26.760 No, that's actually, it's sort of collapsed in.

01:11:30.180 It's like a little bit more scraping.

01:11:31.640 It's a different sign.

01:11:32.360 But no, actually, your digestive system looks really healthy.

01:11:34.200 Really?

01:11:34.620 Okay, you know what I'm worried about with my liver?

01:11:36.360 It's actually not, believe it or not, despite this show where I...

01:11:38.840 Yeah, I know you don't.

01:11:39.540 I'm not actually concerned about the booze or maybe the cigarettes.

01:11:43.160 One of my real guilty pleasures, every so often, not every day or every week, Advil.

01:11:49.460 I take Advil.

01:11:50.360 And I've heard Advil is just pure poison.

01:11:52.940 It's really hard on the level.

01:11:53.980 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:54.580 Yeah, so I would say, you know, and so some things that really help that are, I mean, there's all kinds of things.

01:11:59.380 A lot of herbals, milk thistle, dandelion, turmeric.

01:12:02.120 Turmeric's amazing.

01:12:03.000 Turmeric?

01:12:03.480 Yeah.

01:12:03.960 The Indians are really into turmeric. 0.70

01:12:05.640 Oh, they are. 1.00

01:12:06.140 They, like, coat their babies in turmeric.

01:12:07.620 Oh, yeah.

01:12:07.800 And that's actually good for your blood, actually, if there's one herb that you'd really benefit from.

01:12:11.400 How do I do it?

01:12:12.140 I take a turmeric supplement?

01:12:13.400 You can take it as a capsule.

01:12:14.720 I'd do, like, 1,000 milligrams a day, up to 3,000, or you could do a tea.

01:12:18.660 You know, mix it with, like, a ginger turmeric tea.

01:12:20.740 Okay.

01:12:21.180 Fantastic.

01:12:21.760 Otherwise, my tongue is okay?

01:12:23.140 Yeah, I mean, generally, you're pretty healthy there.

01:12:25.100 Let's go.

01:12:25.840 All right.

01:12:26.360 I was very nervous for that, actually.

01:12:29.320 I've been meaning to come to your clinic.

01:12:31.040 I actually want to get the full Megillah.

01:12:32.700 Come on in. 0.85

01:12:33.400 We'll do your blood work. 0.67

01:12:34.980 We'll do the whole thing for you and the whole family.

01:12:36.420 Although, now I feel like I want to quit while I'm ahead.

01:12:38.700 Like you say, my tongue looks basically okay.

01:12:40.740 I don't know if I go in for the blood work to say, actually, Michael, you have two weeks to live.

01:12:45.280 It's not looking good, buddy.

01:12:47.140 Okay.

01:12:47.800 Let me say this.

01:12:48.540 The reason why you're so healthy is you've got a good disposition.

01:12:51.140 You're positive.

01:12:51.980 Yeah, right.

01:12:52.520 You have a lower level, you handle stress way better than most people, and those are really big things.

01:13:00.000 And my high T.

01:13:01.100 And your high T.

01:13:01.520 That's obviously my high T.

01:13:02.280 And your high T.

01:13:02.860 All right, now I was going to be very angry at my producer for this, but all right, thank you, doctor.

01:13:07.920 Yeah, thanks for having me.

The Michael Knowles Show - June 04, 2026

Dr. Axe EXPOSES Health Myths & Conspiracies ｜ Michael Knowles YES or NO

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