Ep. 10 - American Taliban Blow Up Biloxi Buddhas
Summary
On Monday, a mob of college town commies in North Carolina toppled a 93-year-old Confederate soldier statue at the Durham County Courthouse and proceeded to kick the hunk of metal while shouting obscenities. Plus, Amanda Prestigiacomo, Jacob Airy, and Paul Bois joined the panel of deplorables to discuss the Trump train, smushing CNN, Kumbaya nonsense, and the bubonic plague.
Transcript
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On Monday, a mob of college town commies in North Carolina toppled a 93-year-old Confederate
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soldier statue at the Durham County Courthouse and proceeded to kick the hunk of metal while
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shouting obscenities. We'll analyze. Plus, Amanda Prestigiacomo, Jacob Airy, and Paul Bois joined
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the panel of deplorables to discuss the Trump train smushing CNN, Kumbaya nonsense, and the
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bubonic plague. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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So we're going to get to this, the toppling of the statues. But first, there is a little
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bit of business to cover. I just got some bad news this morning. My father called me. He
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texted me first. He said, call me and you get a chance. I called. And we found out that
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we are distant relatives of Hillary Clinton. I'm somewhat tickled by it. We already know
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that I am a cousin of Beyonce. We haven't proved it yet, but I think it's obvious. But we are. I
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have a first cousin, once removed, I think, who married a Rodham, which makes me and Hillary
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cousins. So, Madam Secretary, whenever you get the opportunity, would love to have you on the show
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and have a little family reunion. Now we have to move to smashing statues. So the left, this has
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been brewing for a long time. The left has wanted to topple these old Confederate statues,
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any remnant of Antebellum South they want to get rid of. And luckily, we were, you know,
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I guess because people have smartphones now, they're always recording these things as they
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happen. We have video footage of these social justice warriors toppling the statue last night
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in Durham. Can we play it? You know, actually, Marshall, I think that wasn't the college kids
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last night. That was the Taliban destroying a 1,500-year-old statue of Buddha. And yeah,
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the way you can tell is the accent on the Allahu Akbar. It's not a southern accent. It was more
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an Afghanistan accent. Do we have the actual clip that we can play?
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They are just charming, aren't they? Just screaming like hyenas.
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Those little animals. Do you see that one guy, that kind of doughy guy at the end,
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flipping it off and yelling obscenities? So the issue here is, if you didn't hear what they were
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chanting, they chanted, no cops, no KKK, no fascist USA. Later, they chanted, we are the revolution.
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Now I can get on board, I guess, with no KKK or no fascists or no Nazis or whatever. But the first
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one was no cops, which they may have just been describing the event in Charlottesville on Saturday.
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That might've been a recap of how little the police did to stop the violence there.
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But I think what they're, they're, they're obviously far left radicals. And we do know
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that the people who came and pulled down this statue were members of the IWW, the Democratic
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Socialists of America, the Workers' World Party, far, I mean, actual communists, right?
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So they put, they tied a little noose around its neck and ripped it down. And there is,
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it's pretty funny that they chose this one because it wasn't a statue of Robert E. Lee.
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It wasn't a statue of Jefferson Davis. It was just a Confederate statue, a generic statue
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dedicated to the boys who wore the gray. And it was built a century ago. It was built a hundred years
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ago. And this, uh, there, a lot of cities are following suit. Five cities around the country
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after the events in Charlottesville have said they're going to pull down all of their Confederate
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monuments. Officials in Kentucky, Maryland, same thing. At the time has come after decades,
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we have to pull these things down. And, uh, so are the Donald a wonderful source for news.
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I check it every day. It's the Reddit page for Donald Trump supporters. They pulled out a few
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other examples of monuments that obviously now we have to take down. For instance, the Taj Mahal
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quote, whoops, built by Hindu slaves. Time to tear it down. I don't know how it's been allowed
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to stay up for so long. Uh, the, uh, Bill Clinton, of course, we quote, cannot glorify rapists,
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tear down this symbol. Uh, I couldn't possibly agree more. Uh, then FDR, we have to remove this
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one quote internment camps for Asians, stole their property. Also a communist, all true. And finally,
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did you know that Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King, the great social justice activist,
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he was against gay marriage. Got to pull that down. And an adulterer. And wait, come on now. No,
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don't, don't get off topic. Martin Luther King was against gay marriage. So obviously we got to pull
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that one down. Now I, uh, I have no sentimental feelings for the Confederacy. I, uh, George, uh,
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Cobb Knowles, an ancestor of mine was killed as a Yankee at Boynton Plank Road. I'm a Yankee through
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and through, but I really, really don't like this move to take down the Confederates, uh, statues and
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statues of any kind for that matter. So why not take down the monuments? All of the argument,
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it seems is on one side that we have to take them down, but why not? There are at least 1500
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Confederate monuments around this country. So I guess this little gang of roving communists is
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going to have to go to each and every one of them all around the country. And there is a lie
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that's going around the internet that these Confederate monuments, they were really,
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a lot of them were built in the sixties as a response to civil rights. It's not
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really about Southern culture at all. That isn't true. The vast, vast majority of these monuments
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were built before 1925. They were built as the nation was finally healing from its civil war.
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So the, you know, for the first time you had Confederate soldiers who were receiving,
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uh, federal benefits for being American veterans. You had that generation sort of dying off
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and, uh, and even Rich Lowry from national review, which was formerly the definitive conservative
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publication. He says, it's time to take them down. He wrote, quote, the monuments should go.
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Some of them simply should be trashed. Others transmitted to museums, battlefields, and cemeteries.
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And Rich Lowry, I couldn't, I couldn't disagree more, but Rich Lowry is invoking Robert E. Lee himself in
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this. He, he points out that Robert E. Lee noted, quote, I think it's wiser not to keep open the
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sores of war, but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of
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civil strife and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered. Now, I don't know if Rich is aware
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of this, but Robert E. Lee was wrong about a number of things, particularly with regard to the civil war,
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in particular, the civil war. He was completely wrong about the civil war. Why would we defer to him on
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how to recover from the civil war? I'm not so sure. One of the responses that they very often make,
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the social justice warriors who want to take down the statues, are that, you know, we took down Nazi
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statues after World War II. When the, in 1946, the allies ordered the destruction of Nazi monuments and
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Nazi statues. I think this is a stretch. I think it's a stretch to compare World War II and the way
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that we treated our enemies with the way that we as a nation decided to heal from our civil war to deal
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with our original sin of slavery, an issue that we'd been trying to grapple with since the
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Constitutional Convention, since the Declaration of Independence. You know, President Lincoln summed up
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how we were going to treat the South. He said, with malice toward none, with charity for all. We
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reunited as a country. We've treated those soldiers as veterans. We treated those rebels as our fellow
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countrymen. Another little point to notice is the Nazi regime lasted for 12 years. The South is a
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political and cultural entity. Lasted, by the time of the Civil War, it had already lasted for 250
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years. And it's lasted 150 years since then as well. Now, if both people on the left and the right
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are getting this issue wrong, the mayor of Richmond, who's had plenty of calls to remove monuments from
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Monument Avenue there, the mayor of Richmond, LeVar Stoney, sums it up pretty well.
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We have a chance to advance the truth, the complete truth, by using these symbols not for
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celebration, but as tools to educate. I wish these monuments had never been built. But whether
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we like it or not, they are part of our history of the city. And removal would never wash away
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that stain. The hate that built them will not go away just because terrorism doesn't start nor will
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it end because of some statues on a tree-lined street. It resides in hearts and minds. And the
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way to change hearts is to educate minds. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Stoney, for being the only voice
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of reason, it seems, in this debate. He went on to say, perhaps it was in another place, quote,
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at the end of the day, those statues are offensive to me, very offensive to me. I imagine they would
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be. They're offensive to me, too, since they killed old great-great-grandpappy Knowles.
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But you know what I'm going to focus my time on? Destroying vestiges of Jim Crow, where they live
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in our city. Public education, you name it. So he makes this great point. Toppling these statues will
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do absolutely nothing for the people who are living other than obscure their own understanding of
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history, their own understanding of their communities. But it won't have any tangible benefits to
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improve the lives of these people, which he could do. He could focus his attention as the mayor on
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actually improving the lives of his constituents. This same thing has been happening at my dear
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alma mater, Yale. It's been going on for years. They wanted to rename the residential college. It's
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sort of like a dorm there from John C. Calhoun because Calhoun was a proponent of slavery. So Calhoun
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College has been in the center of this debate for years. They finally decided they weren't going to
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rename it. Then they decided they were going to rename it because that administration these days
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has absolutely no backbone. But last year, it got even worse. A Yale employee took it upon himself
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to use a broom handle to smash an old stained glass piece because John Calhoun was on it. He destroyed
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this property, this piece of art. And not only did Yale force this guy to lose his job,
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and not only did they not press charges, they rehired him. They gave him his job back. They
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didn't press any charges. And then they suggested that they form a committee to decide which other
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pieces of art should go into hiding because they weren't politically correct or they refer to some
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aspect of our history that we don't like to acknowledge anymore, that it's not fashionable
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to acknowledge. Absolutely pathetic. It's evidence that not only at Yale is a microcosm of this,
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but now around the country, the inmates are running the asylum. And I can think of no better example
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of the inmates running the asylum than bringing on our panel of deplorables. We have them in studio
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today. We have all three in studio. First, of course, first and best, Amanda Presta Giacomo. And then
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we're also joined by Paul Bois and Jacob Era. This is an all Daily Wire panel today. So let's just go
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really quickly down the line. We'll start with Paul. What do you think of this? Should we take down
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the monuments? Should we not take down the monuments? I think it should be left up to the
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municipalities and the people of the town. I think they should have an honest, healthy discussion,
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not somebody at Huffington Post writes an article and then you get a bunch of SJWs down there that
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tear down the statues. An honest, healthy discussion if the statue should stay up. Sure.
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Absolutely not. No way. This is step one. I mean, they're going to keep coming. What else is next?
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What are we going to take down next? Why are we erasing our history? It's important to remember
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the stuff. Remember the racism. Remember what we overcame and how we did overcome that and we
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united and came back from slavery. So absolutely 100 percent. No, don't give them an inch. I'll
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take a mile. They're taking them down on their own. Stop them. Jacob? I think I'm the only
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southerner actually on this panel. Thank God. No, I'm kidding. I like this. But I actually, I agree
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with Paul. I think it should be left up to the local municipalities. As a person of the south,
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I've seen how hurtful kind of the loss caused, which is such a ridiculous thing to talk about
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the Civil War in that perspective. In New Orleans, there was actually a statue that was dedicated
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to racism. We were like, it was a statue. We're proud of our white heritage. That one deserved to
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be taken down. Obviously. I would have given money for the bulldozer to knock it down even. But as far
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as the historical statues, I don't think we should pretend the Civil War didn't happen. We need to
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remember that it was a hard time and we healed from it and it should be left up to the locals
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whether they want to take them down or not. So Amanda, you seem to have the strongest opinion
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on this and I tend to agree with you. What do you think about this argument? They say, well,
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we won't destroy them. We'll just put them in museums. We'll put them in cemeteries, put them out of
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the public square. Yeah. I think, again, that's kind of erasing our history. I mean, that's better
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than this nonsense where they're toppling them themselves. That's disgusting. But again, I mean,
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I think it just shows, I mean, and it's a slippery slope too, as always. So who else are we taking
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down next? Right. Are we going to go, you know, in colleges? They're already going after, you know,
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they're like just not covering people because they were slaveholders. They're like burning books
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in colleges right now. Oxford wanted to get rid of Cecil Rhodes out of Oxford College. Right.
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Right. So we see this everywhere and I think it's just really dangerous to set this precedent when
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we do this. I mean, yeah, local municipalities, sure. But where does it stop? Why do we set this
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precedent? I think it's a bad move to do it. There might be some good intentions, but it could lead to
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some really bad things. We're just, you know, censoring history. Absolutely. Roger Kimball wrote a great
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piece when all the nonsense was happening at Yale. I suppose that isn't a particular time. It's been
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going on for years now, but he wrote a piece about how we need to rename Yale itself because
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obviously Elihu Yale was a slave trader and he was a British imperialist and it's unthinkable that we
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would name. George Washington had a stance on, you know, he wasn't for gay marriage. We'll find that
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up next. Then we'll have to erase him from history. Are you telling me George Washington wasn't in favor of
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gay marriage? This is outraged. Let's start the petition. Now you raise a great point, which is
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that it seems that we're a little less educated about our history right now. It seems that the
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less educated we get about our history, the more we want to tear down monuments that refer to our
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history. Why is that? One, I guess, why don't Americans study history anymore? And why does it
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make us so upset at historical reminders? Paul? Well, I think it was, we get the talking points
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about what the history is. We just say confederacy, racism, and slavery, and oh, there's a statue over
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there that represents that. So we got to tear it down. We don't get the full historical context and
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understanding of why they exist. And so that's why we just have that initial reaction. We just get the
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base. We don't get the full history. There has been a movement in education to not read primary
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texts anymore, to only read synopses of primary texts or secondary or third.
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Yeah. And we just, you know, we all operate off of emotion. So it's not necessarily about the facts
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or the context or any of that. It's just whatever you feel like racism, bad, tear everything down,
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censorship. No, like you need to understand the full context, you know, and work from there. But
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just this immediate gut reaction, just go off of feelings and condemn people as racists or sexists
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or bigots. That's everywhere in our culture when we see it here.
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But I think this is important why I do think a healthy debate needs to be happening in these
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towns and in these cities where these monuments exist. And where that speaks to the whole idea
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of them putting them in museums is that are we having an honest, healthy debate where people
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are saying what they feel about these things? And do we have a healthy view of the confederacy?
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Because sometimes we necessarily don't. And I think that will naturally resolve itself by having
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those kinds of healthy debates rather than the dictatorial tear them down right now.
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And the left, the left has pounced on this. You know, they do this every time they never let a
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crisis go to waste. And of course, you make a great point. If these towns and these local
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communities want to take down their statues, that's totally up to them, I suppose. But something
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tells me those democratic socialists of America that we saw in that video were not living in the
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local areas. There's got the IWW getting bussed in. There's obviously a well-funded effort.
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And that's another thing, too, is what they don't realize is these democrat socialists Antifa people
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who come into these towns, that shores up the other person's opinion. So you might have had a
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town having a debate whether to take down a statue. But then when these outsiders come in and just
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rip up your public property, well, of course, you're going to go, no, that's my statue. You don't have
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the authority to do that. And so they're actually causing, they are causing the fight. And when
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they could have easily just come in and say, hey, listen, why don't you have a debate about this?
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But can it be a rallying point? That is the one counter argument, as they say, if we leave up a
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statue of Hitler, the Nazis are going to use that as a congregation point. Or if we leave up a statue
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of Jefferson Davis, Richard Spencer is going to show up there. Is that any sort of legitimate argument?
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Is there a real threat of that? If there is, should we even care?
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No, I don't think so. I think the rallying point is happening because the left is just
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going into these cities and saying, tear them down without allowing any kind of debate. And
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that's creating a vacuum that makes the Richard Spencers and the neo-Nazis go up and rally too.
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Have you noticed that you've never seen Paul Bois and Richard Spencer in the same room together
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the same time? I'm just going to leave that out there.
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I suppose that's right. Is there any, there is no real threat here?
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Well, it doesn't like, it just doesn't solve any problems of racism by moving a statue or
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ripping down a statue. What does that solve? There is no debate, as Paul was saying. If
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there's, if you're, you're deemed a racist, if you even have a counter argument to this,
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there is no debate. I mean, that's, that's the biggest issue. It doesn't, it doesn't solve
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If a bunch of, if a bunch of conservatives rallied around a Joseph Stalin statue, of which
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there are several in the United States, what are the, we're going to say, Hey, you know,
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Joseph Stalin tried, tried to purge the Jews out of Russia, you know, just the same way
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that Hitler did out of Germany. They would be defending, Oh, you don't know what you're
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talking about. Soviet Russia was all about equality. And, you know, it would be all of a
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Do we have a Stalinist on the pen? It's just unbelievable. Why do we let it be a Richard
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sponsor and we have a Stalinist on the pen? Amanda, you make a great point too, though.
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There isn't the, I think part of the reason why these views gain currency online is because
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there's such an oppressive culture where if you bring up any sort of idea, I mean, I get,
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I did an entire episode yesterday about how awful the Nazis are. There will be people online
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today who call me a racist and a sexist and all that sort of, it happens to every single
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person who's ever voted Republican. And so it allows these views to, they're, they're
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almost subversive. They seem cool. When in reality, they're stupid ideas. They don't have
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any serious philosophic or logical backing. And maybe if you would allow them out into
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the open, they, they would die as they, as they ought to.
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Yeah. And that's why, that's why this is so dangerous. Cause there is, there is no dialogue
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right now. If you, you know, say anything remotely on the other side, you are a racist.
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You're, there was, um, you know, this whole, all the Confederate stuff. Um, who
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was that there was an actor who was calling everybody a Nazi if they didn't want to ban
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free speech for people with certain ideologies. I mean, that's insane.
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If you don't want to kill the Jews, you're a Nazi.
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I mean, it was just, you know, there's, there's just no dialogue around this. This is not
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some healthy debate at a municipality where they decide, oh, he will move this into a museum.
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What do you think about Robert E. Lee's argument that it would be picking at old sores and
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I think it reminds us of the evil that, our sin. I think it reminds us, it's actually
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It's so Catholic of you to want to think about your sins. I agree.
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It's okay that we live with a little guilt. I mean, it's okay to remember.
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A little guilt never hurt anybody. Built Europe, for goodness sake.
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Yeah. And like, and you know, maybe we should retreat from all these identity politics that
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we have right now. Cause you know, we don't want that, that, that, that evil, that racism
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that we overcame. I mean, it's important to remember it. We're not glorifying it. It's, it's our
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You're acknowledging it. You're confronting it.
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And here's where I would maybe disagree with that is cause I think something in the public
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square is not necessarily acknowledgement that's reverence. Um, and that's where the, the debate
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needs to come into play. You know, are we revering these or are we just acknowledging our history?
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Uh, that's why a museum takes place. That's why maybe keeping on battlefields. I mean, that's
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an honest discussion to have. I don't think that's necessarily a bad, uh, thing that people
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are talking about. Sure. But you know, if you, if you throw them into those museums,
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you might as well throw them into drawers and lock them up. Right. I think that's the,
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yeah, it's true. You know, the old cliche, those who don't remember their history are
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doomed to repeat it. Right. You know, so I think it is important that, uh, in that context,
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you know, some of these statues maybe do need to stay up. So we, so we don't repeat that history.
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but you know, very often it's not just a Paul Bwai and Jacob Berry here. We have a wonderful panel
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of deplorables. So you got to go to dailywire.com right now and sign up president Trump. I love him
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so much. He tweeted out and then deleted a photo, uh, just within the last two days of a Trump train
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smashing a person with a CNN logo for a head. And the caption said, fake news can't stop the
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Trump train. Amanda, first questions to you. How much better is Donald Trump than all of the
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other presidents combined? How many orders of magnitude? He's one of a kind. That's for sure.
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There's nobody like him. I mean, the, the, okay. So I'm not a fan of the memes of the WWE stuff.
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I'm just not a fan. Have you seen them? Have you actually seen them? No, I don't know. I like them.
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I don't like when my president retweets them. Um, I'm not the biggest fan, but it doesn't matter
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because the media is so hysterical and so crazy that anytime Trump says something like this,
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their overreaction, he's calling for the murder of journalists. By the way, I don't think it's a
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meme. I think it's a documentary. Yeah. So, I mean, anytime they react to something president
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Trump does that I'm not a fan of, I'm like, Oh, okay. I love it because they're just so hysterical.
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You know, he's not advocating for the murder of journalists. Everybody calm down.
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He does. He's not, he's not actually conducting a train. He's not actually, but Jacob, is it too
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soon? I mean, this poor woman got mowed down by a Nazi on Saturday. Is it a little soon to be posting
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these images? Yeah. I think maybe just a little bit too soon, but in all fairness to the president,
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Jim Acosta was kind of acting like a shrieking harpy. I'm shocked. I'm shocked to hear that.
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It's kind of funny. I think that meme in particular was too soon, but had Trump tweeted out another one,
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I probably would have been okay with it because Jim Acosta has just ruined CNN for me completely.
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I actually love him because he is Will Ferrell in Anchorman.
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I really enjoy his presence. He does a lot for the right.
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I hope that there's rumors he might get his own show. I hope that's true.
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Was he right to delete the tweet or should he have left it up?
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It certainly doesn't help him. If there's one thing about Trump that's always been
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So you think you think deleting it doesn't help him?
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Yeah, I think yeah. Deleting it doesn't help him.
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The one thing about Trump is that he's unapologetic and that this makes him look apologetic.
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And to speak to Amanda's point, the media always overreact to this.
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I mean, the last time he did that WWE tweet, they ended up finding some 15 year old Redditor online.
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So leave it up and probably troll them to the point that they're going to do something else stupid.
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I actually agree with you. Yeah, I think you should, even though I hate this stuff,
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But is the meme correct? True or false? Fake news can't stop the Trump train.
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It does. It's a well-oiled machine because of people like Jim Acosta.
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I mean, they fuel his base so much, they don't get it.
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And they just, they don't understand. They've learned nothing.
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And they keep fueling him. I mean, every time they have an overreaction,
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every time they call him a Nazi sympathizer or whatever, it just fuels his base.
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And when they lie and they have to retract, that fuels his base.
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They are fake news, by the way. They have been pulling,
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New York Times, Washington Post, CNN have had to retract major stories, fire reporters.
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We're not talking about just getting a couple of facts wrong.
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All their anonymous sourcing that turned out to be bunk.
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Why is that? Is it just something about Trump that irks them?
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Or have their standards fallen for some other reason?
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I honestly think it's they see Trump as a traitor, right?
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Because he used to be a Democrat. He was one of them.
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He was one of them. And now all of a sudden he's not.
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And they are trying to punish him for it. But exactly what you said earlier,
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they're just shoring up his base. That's all there is to it. They are oiling that machine
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And because Trump is so brash and unapologetic, typically, they really hate that.
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And they hate that he'll smack them back. That was one of the things that I really liked about
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Trump. They'll smack the media and they just can't stand it. They can't stand being called
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And he talks like a New Yorker, which is, I mean, Amanda, you know this,
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the way New Yorkers, sometimes when people who aren't from that wonderful place hear New Yorkers
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talk, they say, why are you so mean to each other? You're not mean, it's just the way.
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Yeah, it's just, it's kind of fun. It's funny. It's just the way you talk.
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And we haven't seen that in a very long time since FDR, I guess, was the last New Yorker
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president. And he did not, he did not talk like the Donald. Okay, we have to move on.
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Speaking of the mainstream media continuing to harp on President Trump, they're harping on his
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condemnation of the Nazis, not being emphatic enough. And the Nazis seem to agree, actually.
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So Richard Spencer called it, quote, kumbaya nonsense. He said he doesn't take it very seriously.
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Others echoed those sentiments. Jacob, are Spencer and the mainstream media correct?
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No. Spencer is just doing this to get attention. We didn't even know who Spencer was until the
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media started reporting on him. Of course. He would have no platform right now. But because
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the mainstream media want to somehow tie this guy to Trump, this horrible racist, they want to tie
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him to Trump. They're just going to report every single little thing he says. And especially if he
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says Trump by name. But he does, I mean, these guys, I'm all for admitting that the Nazis are,
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they have leftist premises. I'm all for saying that. I think these are fundamentally left-wing
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movements, but they're also a little bit right-wing movements too, right? These guys did vote for
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President Trump. So there is some association there. Yeah. I think he got, so the media are going
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to overreact. They're going to say things that aren't true no matter what. They're going to go on
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Trump no matter what. But I think Trump got himself in trouble. He should have named,
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right off the bat, he should have named both groups, Antifa and neo-Nazis because that's,
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I mean, you know, that's exactly what- They were both violent.
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Yeah, they were both very violent. The one example, I mean,
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obviously the Nazi plowed his car, but all of those little attacks, you saw the canister with a
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homemade flamethrower and the rocks and all that, that seemed to all be Antifa or largely Antifa.
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Right. So when this was coming out, I mean, he should have condemned both sides,
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specifically called out the man with white supremacist ties who murdered. I mean, that's
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awful, absolutely disgusting to announce it all. But because he didn't, and it was kind of, it almost
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sounded like he was going off script when he was reading that, you know, many sides, many sides
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trying to not take, I think Trump is annoyed that they're being tied to him because he hasn't,
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he hasn't announced. Because they would do it anyway. I mean, they do it to every Republican,
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they say, when did you stop beating your wife? And you might think it's that sort of moment.
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So I didn't, I don't think it was necessarily nefarious of Trump. I might be naive to, to not
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name them specifically. I think he's just annoyed that they're being tied to him anyway. So we're
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saying everyone, everyone there doesn't want to name them by name because then it's tied to him
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because that's what the media is trying to do. Um, but because of that, when he, when Trump comes
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out a second time and then names them, you have these voids of promises who are saying, oh,
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he didn't really mean it. It took him. They made him do it a day. Yeah. And that's,
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and that's the problem that Trump steps into by doing that. Created it for himself. Yeah. Right.
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Paul, did he, is he just playing footsie with fascists here or is he damned if he does and
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damned if he doesn't? I think he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. So you don't,
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you don't think he's winking at these guys at all. He wants to keep their support. No,
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my, my, my honest opinion is it is. I think it's just Trump being Trump. I think he just wanted
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to say what he wanted to say. And that is say on many sides, and he's not necessarily thinking
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clearly that people are going to want him to tailor his rhetoric towards, uh, specifically condemning
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white supremacist. So he just comes out, he says it, and then huge blowback and everybody's like
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saying, well, yeah, you gotta condemn specifically. And he's like, well, I said what I wanted to say.
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And so, okay. And now he goes out and says it and it looks like he's just, you know, caving to press
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demands. It's yeah, it's, that's my opinion. Oh, I was just going to add, you know, I think we also have
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to be careful on the rights criticism of, of Trump on this, because when Obama would come out and say
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anything that had to do, you know, with the Dallas, uh, anytime a police officer shot an
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an unarmed suspect, Obama would go out immediately reactionary. And then we on the right would always
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go, oh, wait, wait, let's, let's measure. Let's, let's get all the facts. And then I think Trump
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did that as well. He's like, well, I, he gave a statement about the fact that I was an active
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situation. Yeah. So, and then when he got all the facts, he came out and condemned them. I do think in
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this case, since we know it was Antifa and neo-Nazis, he should have done it. But I also think
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some of the criticism is being a little harsh on him. Well, they're also just totally in the media
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and everyone in America, it feels like it's just totally ignoring, um, you know, when,
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oh, president Obama would never name black lives matter. We're never named.
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He would throw fuel on the fire. My child would look like Trayvon Martin.
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Yeah, exactly. And for some reason we forgot all this. I mean, uh, you know,
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black lives matter sympathizer murdered five cops in Dallas. He didn't condemn black lives matter.
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Of course not. Of course not. And it's in the top. The Democratic Party embraced them.
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You know, memory hole, like nobody remembers that. And it's, it's, it's, it's still on their graves
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at their funeral. Right. But, but president Trump, I mean,
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president Obama was wrong to do that. And it's, I also think president Trump should have named
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both, uh, Antifa and the neo-Nazis. And he should name president Obama. I love,
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we got eight years of blame Bush. I want a little bit more blame Obama. I think it's delicious.
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Well, now those answers were not hysterical enough. So we need to ratchet it up a little
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bit and talk about bubonic plague. In other signs of the apocalypse, the black death appears to have
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made a return to the United States fleas carrying bubonic plague, which killed 50 million people
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in the 14th century and took out between 25 and 60% of the European population have infected three
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victims in Arizona. Paul Bois, is our Lord's return to judge the living and the dead imminent?
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Well, as our Lord said, Michael, it is not up to us to know the season. So I'd be a bit more
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concerned. Not even you? Not even his evidence of Paul Bois?
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So I'd be a bit more concerned of Antifa barging in your show one day and disrupting.
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Amanda, we always talk about our news cycle as if it is the end of the world. You know,
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every election is the most important election of my lifetime and everything. This is the end.
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The conservative movement's over. The right wing is over. The country's over. Is it,
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is there anything right now? Is our time especially dire or is this just typical hysteria?
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I think it's, I think it's typical hysteria. Um, I kind of fall into this too, a little bit,
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because I thought we were going to all die of Ebola and Zika. I thought we were gone. I really
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was like terrified. Yeah. My dad had to like calm me down and say that we're going to be fine. But,
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um, yeah, it's the, you know, hysterical stuff. I mean, if you look at, you know,
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everything in context, then this kind of stuff happens and we'll, we'll be all right.
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But our, our culture is rotting though. I won't say that.
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Jacob, we, but you, you make a fair point that the culture might be decaying, but we are living
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through basically the greatest time of peace and prosperity in the history of the world. And yet,
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rates of anxiety are on the rise. Depression are on the rise. Why are people not happy?
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I think it's the media. The mainstream media always churns out anything. If it bleeds, it leads,
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right? So they're always churning out everything that could possibly go wrong. I mean, if you remember
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when the Malaysian airline plane vanished, how could I forget? Yes. CNN harped on that for six
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fricking months. Okay. It's not, we don't know what happened to it. It's either send someone to
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Malaysia and investigate or shut up. You know, it doesn't, um, they, they run these stories
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over and over again. And it's, it's basically, uh, it's, it's basically pornography for the,
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for people who have anxiety. So there, I'm all for blaming the news. I blame the mainstream media
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all day long, but there is, you got to this point of the culture decaying. Do you think that might be
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part of it? There is a, we have all the money in the world now. We are richer than anyone has ever
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been. Yeah. Is there some sense that that's not quite gratifying? We've turned away from.
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Yeah. Take a look at any feminist over 40 alone. I mean, I think, you know, I'm serious though.
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I mean, that's not, that's not happiness. They're like, oh yeah, you know, I have a career and
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nobody and I'm alone. That's not, that's not happiness. So sure. I'll, I'll blame feminism.
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Yeah. We'll throw that in there at the mainstream media. Definitely one of the, feminism ruins everything.
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Yeah. Uh, but, uh, Dr. Peter Kreeft of Boston College really kind of said it best. Uh, all of
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our technological advances is all a great how, but we've made a greater how and, uh, for a lesser why.
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We don't necessarily know why, why we're, we have all these technologies, why we have, uh, our houses
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and which it's always about what we're doing. Yeah. What we're doing. It's always about proclaiming
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the glory of God. And that is, uh, that collapsed in the 1960s. That is a pretty dire way to end,
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but we have to. So thank you. The panel of deplorables, Paul Bois, Amanda Presto Giacomo,
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and Jacob Airy. Now it is time for the final thought.
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Inside every social justice warrior is a tyrant yearning to spring out. The left famously never
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lets a crisis go to waste and our American Taliban has seized on the crimes of a handful of idiots
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and criminals in Charlottesville to finally topple our Biloxi Buddhas. That impulse is revisionist,
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anti-historic and un-American. The truth above all things, toppling statues achieves nothing other
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than obscuring our history. It's an attack on our ability to understand our country and ourselves.
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And Robert Ely is only the beginning. The left's rapacious appetite to whitewash our history
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will grow only more ravenous. Who's to say where it will turn its fangs next?
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Who's to say? I don't know. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Thanks for being here. Come back tomorrow. We'll do it again.