Ep. 1004 - Save A Tree, Kill A Baby - Democrats
Summary
The pro-abortion movement cannot seem to hold on to the power that it already has in the ordinary political process, so now they're looking outside of the political process to mob justice in residential neighborhoods. Michael Knowles explains why.
Transcript
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Last night, the Associated Press reported that Senate Democrats' bill to write Roe v. Wade into
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law blocked by GOP-led filibuster as Supreme Court Ways abortion case. That was the AP headline.
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MSNBC similarly reported that a GOP-led filibuster derailed the bill to codify Roe v. Wade
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protections. And since the AP and MSNBC reported it, you will not be surprised to find out
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that that is not true. The Democrats' abortion bill failed by a vote of 49 to 51. That is not
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a filibuster. The filibuster is a tool to delay or block legislation in the Senate. It has been used
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by both parties and defended by both parties, including people who are now in the leadership
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of both parties many, many times throughout history. But it was not used here because you
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don't need to use the filibuster if the other side can't even win a simple majority of votes for
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their bill. I obviously do not put it past MSNBC and the AP to lie. But in their defense, I also
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wouldn't be surprised if the geniuses running those news organizations simply didn't know what the word
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filibuster means. Regardless, contrary to what the AP and MSNBC reported, the bill did not fail because of
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any strange rules, any chicanery. It failed because most senators voted against it. And most senators
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voted against it because it would have outlawed virtually every abortion restriction in the
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country. It actually did not seek to codify Roe v. Wade into law. If that's all the bill had sought to
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do, the bill almost certainly would have passed because squishy Republicans like Susan Collins and
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Lisa Murkowski almost certainly would have voted for it. The bill went further because Democrats have
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adopted an extreme position on abortion that has absolutely no basis in the American legal tradition
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and almost no currency among the American people, just 6% of whom support it, which is why they're
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taking to the streets and throwing Molotov cocktails through the windows of pro-life pregnancy centers
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and screaming in front of the houses of Supreme Court justices and scaring their kids in the middle of
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the night. The pro-abortion movement cannot seem to gain any more power. It can't seem even to hold on
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to the power that it already has in the ordinary political process. So now they're looking outside the
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political process to mob justice in residential neighborhoods. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Kevin Springer, who says,
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the leftist says, this country is not a Christian nation, to which I say, our money literally says,
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in God we trust. Yes, it does. Not just our money. We have a pledge of allegiance. We say I pledge
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allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
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under God. Our earliest national holiday in this country is Thanksgiving. To whom do you think they
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were giving thanks? It's pretty clear. Actually, later on, George Washington tells us to whom they were
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giving thanks. Our other national holiday, the 4th of July, what does that commemorate? It commemorates
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the Declaration of Independence. What does the Declaration of Independence say? We hold these
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truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator. Who's that creator?
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We're talking about the big guy. We're talking about God. It's a completely ahistorical argument to say
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that America is not a Christian nation, to say that Christianity is not the animating spirit of
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America. It has been from the very beginning. And so what the Libs try to do is they take one or two
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lines from a private letter of Thomas Jefferson or the Treaty of Tripoli, where we were trying to
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convince Muslim pirates to stop stealing our sailors. And they take them completely out of the historical
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and philosophical context of the country. And it leads people astray. It's lots of wish casting
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from the secular left. Now, speaking of very zealous leftists, you know, we've had this scourge of
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protesters outside of the Supreme Court justices' homes, yelling, screaming, doing all sorts of nasty
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things, waking up the justices' families in the middle of the night. We've seen violent pro-abortion
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demonstrations in the rest of the country, Wisconsin, Oregon, Maryland, throwing Molotov cocktails,
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vandalism, graffiti, all sorts of things. I want to make sure that we're not just in an echo chamber
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here. We're not just talking to ourselves. So I'm bringing on someone who I suspect is more
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reasonable than Joe Biden. I hope he's more reasonable than Joe Biden. This would be David
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Pakman. David coming back to the show, nationally syndicated progressive talk show host on TV and
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radio. David, thank you for coming back to the show. The first time went so well, I had to come
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back for seconds. I knew it. That's why we invited you back. And listen, I was disheartened to see
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that Joe Biden and Jen Psaki would not condemn the protests at all hours outside of the justices'
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homes and residential neighborhoods before their families. I suspect, I mean this sincerely,
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I'm not being facetious at all. I suspect you are more reasonable than the staffers at the White House
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now. Can we at least agree this is bad? It is bad to protest outside of Supreme Court justices' homes?
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Well, so I suspect you want to have a good faith conversation about this. Is that a fair assessment
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so we can speak freely here? You're not just looking to play gotcha here. I'm not. No, I'm not.
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That's not what we do on the show. So let's see. This is not a protest technique I would employ,
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right? But I have a large platform online where I'm going to reach way more people than going to
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anybody's house. So like my personal thing is this is not a protest technique I would employ.
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Let's go through like legality, morality, ethics, et cetera. Yeah. Anything that is a criminal act,
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like a Molotov cocktail, destruction of property, whatever, it should be reported. If there's a crime,
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people should be charged. If you can get a guilty, guilty verdict, they should be sentenced. Fine.
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Very, very good. In terms of the speech aspect of this, you know, there's this case from the nineties,
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Madsen V women's health center, which found that it's okay for anti-choice protesters to go and protest
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outside the homes of just random workers at abortion clinics. Okay. Now that's not my opinion. That's a
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decision that exists. Those are quite literally private citizens. They're just like medical
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workers, right? So if that's okay and we have a first amendment, certainly showing up and protesting
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isn't against the law. Are you and I on the same page about that piece?
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No, because in the US code, 18 US code, section 1507, the law, the federal law explicitly prohibits
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protesting outside of the homes of judges with the intention of influencing their decisions.
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So if they were- The decision has been done though.
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No, it hasn't. The decision hasn't come out. There was a leaked draft of the opinion. So I
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would agree with you. It's not clear that they were in violation of the law if the decision had
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already come out and they were just expressing their anger. But because the decision has not come
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out, because it seems clear to me that the protesters are trying to change the course of how this decision
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is going to come and try to bring political pressure. To me, it seems quite clear. This
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is a violation of federal law. No, no lawyer I've spoken to says that this is against any law,
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unless, unless some specific, you know, if they're even, if even something as relatively benign as a
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noise ordinance, let's say there's a noise ordinance that starts at 10 PM. If it's 11 and you're being
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loud, okay, now we have something to talk about, but there's, there's, I know that that's not the
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lawyer who says there's any law being broken here. That, that is the law. I mean, the viewers are
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free to go check it out, but that, that is a very specific law. There's also, there's actually a
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Virginia statute too, but I'm just talking about the federal law, 18 USC 1507. You can look it up.
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Now you might say, well, I don't like that law. I don't think it's just, I think it's a violation.
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I just don't think it's applicable at the homes of these individuals in Virginia based on lawyers
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I've spoken to. Neither you or I are lawyers. So we may just be, we may not get any further.
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The statute is plain. Are you saying that you don't think that the, the protesters are
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seeking to influence the decision? I haven't spoken to them, so I really can't say, but you
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can hear what they're saying, right? What's that? You can hear the sort of things that they're
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chanting. They're not saying, I actually have not heard what they're chanting. I have no, I don't
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know what they're, what are they chanting? You tell me. They're chanting my body, my choice.
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They're chanting, they're chanting, uh, you know, my body, my choice. Isn't change the, the,
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the decision. Of course it is. That's just their opinion. My body, my choice. They're chanting in
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support of the, of the ruling that will be overruled by the Dobbs versus Jackson
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Women's Health Organization case. Listen, I think that if we want to get into the minutiae of this
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at the legal level, I think you would have a hard time arguing that legally saying my body,
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my choice is equivalent to saying change your decision. So I don't know. David, why, why,
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what would they be doing outside of the justice's homes before a decision comes out after a leaked
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opinion? Expressing their opinion. I mean, listen, I don't think you're going to win on that. I don't
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think you're going to win on legally. They were breaking the law because they said my body,
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my choice. It seems very weak. No, David, they're not merely saying my body, my choice,
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and they're not merely posting some opinion online. They're going to the homes of these people
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that actually the group that sent them, it's called Ruth sent us. They said that this is an
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unacceptable attack on women and LGBT, and we need to force them, right? That was the key word.
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We need to force them to change their views using a diversity of tactics. And we would acknowledge
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that peaceful protesting is just one tactic. So it seems like they're calling for other things,
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but, but even that word force, what is, what is that word? Michael, now you're blending. Now
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you're saying, well, they've used peaceful protesting, but they're calling for other
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things. No, no, no, but that, so they've broken. That isn't my, that isn't my problem. No, no. I
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mean, I think that that is a separate issue, but the very fact that the organization, I'm sorry,
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but you brought, you introduced it in this conversation. That's, that's a problem as well,
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that they're calling for a diversity of tactics. But the chief problem that we're discussing here
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is that the organization that is taking responsibility for sending the mobs to the
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justices' homes says we need to force them to change their minds. We need to force them to not
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attack women and LGBT and all of the other minority groups that they're discussing. So even the word
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force would suggest to me that, that they are attempting to influence the decision and therefore
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are in violation of this law. Yeah. I, I, I'm not trying to skirt the main point you're trying to
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make, which I am unsure I can identify, but I haven't seen that specifically said. So it's just
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hard for me to comment on it. What I think you're pleading, you're pleading, pleading ignorance on
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this point. No, I'm not pleading ignorance. What, what, what I can speak to is if any crime has been
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committed, charge them. Okay. I'm totally with that. I'm totally with that. Yeah. Okay. That makes
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sense. Do you, do you think now from your perspective as a reasonable Democrat, if you were advising
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Democrats? I'm not a Democrat. I've never been associated with the Democratic party. Really?
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What are you in any party or you're just independent? No. Yeah, I'm just independent.
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Would you, you would generally vote for Democrats? I would assume.
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I vote for more Democrats than Republicans. I don't care about parties though. I see parties
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essentially almost like corporations that justify their own existence to just continue existing in
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opposition to the other, other party. Do you, do you really vote for Republicans?
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I voted for many in, there's lots of nonpartisan local elections where I later found out
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some of the people were not Democrats, but I mean, it's kind of neither here nor there.
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Okay. So, but you're not formally in the Democrat party. If you were advising a Democratic candidate
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or any candidate for that matter, who is on the left, would you advise them to continue running on
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this issue of abortion on this issue of, well, for instance, the bill that the Democrats last night
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tried to pass, it failed in the Senate to, they said it was to codify Roe versus Wade. It actually
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went further to create even more abortion protections. Would you advise them to run on this issue in the
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midterms or to back away from it in the midterms?
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I, so run on it. I think that there's two, from a political strategy standpoint, there's two options.
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One would be run on the bill that failed yesterday. That doesn't seem like a good idea to run on that.
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Um, I, I think where there is based on public opinion about abortion being as in favor of it
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as ever before during the Roe v Wade era, public polling is now in the 60, 70% of Americans believe
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abortion should generally be legal in most cases that that's not in every case, but in most cases
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based on that, it seems to me it would be prudent to run on. We need to get the government
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out of medical decisions between women and doctors. I mean, and again, you're, I, you and I are never
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going to agree on something like when does life begin? That's a different, I agree on that. You
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know, I had a gal who can't, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, but let me at least finish my sentence.
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Sure. You asked me about strategy. It seems to me that since most Americans think abortion should be
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legal in most cases, the right strategy thing would be, we need to get the federal government out of
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in the middle of these medical decisions. But, but right now, if you've, if you, let's say that
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the leaked opinion actually ends up being the final decision. Let's say that Roe v Wade is overruled
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instantly as Elizabeth Warren says, abortion is severely restricted, if not outlawed in more than
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half of the States. Instantly you, you've, you've, you're in a very different situation.
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Knowing that the, there are all sorts of polls. There's polls that show that 94% of Americans reject
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the absolutist view of abortion held by some Democrats. There are polls, as you cite, that show
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that when you ask the question, do you support Roe v. Wade broadly, then there is some majority of
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Americans that broadly want some abortion liberality. Yeah, but Michael, that's very mealy-mouthed.
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I mean, let's just be honest. Ask the same way over the last 50 years, support for Roe v. Wade has
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continued to go up. Fair? Well, it depends how you ask the question. If you ask-
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Ask the same way over the last 50 years. Right. If you ask-
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It has gone up. If you ask the question in a way that is, I think, hiding the reality of abortion
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and is just talking about the decision Roe v. Wade, then sure, there's broad support for it. But if you,
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but if you ask the question and you say, do you support this type of abortion? Do you support this
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type of abortion? Do you support- Then the support is much, much smaller. This is why the bill failed
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yesterday. You're creating distinctions only to create doubt when the point I'm making is
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over the last 50 years, generally, overall, should abortion generally be legal in most cases,
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support has gone up. You can admit that and still be against it.
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No, but David, the problem is the devil is in the details because, I mean, I've got a poll right here
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that goes into depth on different aspects of abortion polling that-
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Depending on how you phrase the question, you get very different answers. So I guess my point is
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this. According to some of this polling, very few voters and very, very few independent voters
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support abortion as a top policy issue. It does not seem to motivate a whole lot of people to go to
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the polls. Oh, fair. I would agree with that. I agree with that.
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So therefore, in that case, if you were advising these candidates, you might say, okay, just keep using
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the same lines that Democrats have used since Roe versus Wade. But if you were talking about focusing
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a campaign, I think there are a lot of Democrats right now who say, we're going to run on this.
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This is going to motivate everyone to go to the polls. Make your campaign about abortion. Would
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you say that's a good strategy or would you say, hey, maybe back off a little bit and talk about,
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No, no, no. I don't think that's a good strategy. I mean, again, this is less about my opinion,
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but it's about what the facts show. The facts show that economic issues are far more important
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when it comes to running national campaigns. So I mean, no disagreement there. These are just
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strategy questions. Yeah, absolutely. Sure. There was also, there was polling that came out
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yesterday that showed that on the abortion question, in as much as it does motivate people,
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it's actually, the Roe v. Wade overruling seems to be propelling Republicans at almost 2x the rate
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as Democrats. So anyway, listen, David, I knew that you would be much more reasonable
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than Joe Biden. David, that's all the time we have. Thank you very much for coming on.
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Oh my God, it's over. We haven't even talked about anything yet.
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Well, no, I think, as I gave you a compliment, but thankfully that's missing too. I think that
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you've presented a more reasonable view than the White House has. I think you've presented
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better political advice than the White House has for their own party. And so I appreciate you
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for coming on. Where can people find you? DavidPakman.com. I can't imagine a more meaningful
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compliment and praise than that coming from you, Michael. Thank you.
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the point, and he kind of pled ignorance on this aspect of the federal law, which is pretty clear.
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By the way, it says very explicitly, you cannot protest outside the judge's homes to influence the
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decisions. But I think he conceded the broader point, which is, yeah, I wouldn't use this tactic.
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Yeah, I don't think this is very effective. Yeah, I don't. If they broke a law, you know,
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let's arrest them and sweep them to the fringes. It would probably be wise for Democrats to do this,
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because this is a loser for them. They thought leaking the opinion was going to galvanize support.
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It hasn't. It's had the opposite effect. They thought protesting outside the judge's homes
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was going to galvanize support. It's had the opposite effect. They thought, I mean,
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I think the purpose of leaking that opinion was to codify Roe versus Wade into law and pass a national
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abortion bill. They tried that. It failed. And it didn't even fail because of the filibuster. It
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failed because they couldn't even get a bare majority of people to vote for it. And so now they're left
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screaming into the void. There was a, I don't know his name. There was a guy who popped up some dash
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something. He popped up on Twitter. He went viral yesterday. Some people said he looked like a deep
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fake of me, like a kind of bizarro world version of me. And he expressed what I think is the very
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common anger and very incoherent anger of the libs over Roe v. Wade.
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I have a question for the department of justice. When Amy Coney Barrett said she'd uphold Roe v.
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Wade in her confirmation hearing, she lied. Lying under oath is perjury and perjury is a federal crime.
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Why didn't you take any legal action against her? When Neil Gorsuch said he'd uphold Roe v. Wade in
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his confirmation hearing, he lied. Lying under oath is perjury and perjury is a federal crime.
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Why didn't you take any legal action against him? When Brett Kavanaugh said he'd uphold Roe
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v. Wade in his confirmation hearing, he lied. Lying under oath is perjury and perjury is a
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federal crime. Why didn't you take any legal action against him? Merrick Garland, your decision
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not to prosecute is going to cost women in America their reproductive rights. How dare you call
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yourself the department of justice? Do your job. Prosecute the Republican justices.
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Mr. Garland, how dare you call yourself the department? Does he call himself that? I don't think
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he does. Well, they committed perjury. No, they didn't. Do the libs not know what basic words mean?
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What basic legal concepts are? They don't know what the filibuster is. They don't know the
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political concept. They don't know what perjury is. But this is a common refrain now that you're
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hearing from the libs that Amy Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch perjured themselves
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because of what they said in their confirmation hearings about Roe v. Wade. Well, what did they say?
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I've got it here. I've got it from factcheck.org, which is sort of a, isn't that the left-wing
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organization? I think it is, but they have the exact words here. And what did they say?
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Gorsuch said that Roe was precedent. He wouldn't even say that it was super precedent. He said,
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this is precedent. A senator, I would tell you, Roe v. Wade decided in 1973 is a precedent of the
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United States Supreme Court. It has been reaffirmed. The reliance interest considerations are important
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there and all of the other factors that go into analyzing precedent have to be considered.
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It is a precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was reaffirmed in Casey in 1992. So a good judge
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will consider it as precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court, worthy as treatment of precedent like any
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others. And Kavanaugh and Barrett did the same thing. They didn't say, I will uphold Roe v. Wade.
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I will uphold Planned Parenthood v. Casey. They said, it is precedent. It should be treated as other
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precedents are. And sometimes you uphold precedents and sometimes you overrule precedents.
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And all the senators during their confirmationaries wanted the judges to say, I hate Roe v. Wade. But
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they wouldn't say that because they were smart and they wanted to get on the court. So they just
00:21:49.440
said, yes. It would be as if they said, Roe v. Wade is Roe v. Wade. Yes. And Planned Parenthood v. Casey
00:21:55.560
is Planned Parenthood v. Casey. And Roe v. Wade has three words in it, Roe versus Wade. And one of those
00:22:02.100
words starts with an R and the other with a V and the other with a W. And that is my opinion of Roe
00:22:06.580
versus Wade. And that's what they said. And now they're going to overrule it. It was a precedent.
00:22:11.040
Might not be a very important precedent for much longer. This issue, I got into a little bit with
00:22:16.860
David. This is a loser, not just in terms of where the support is. David made the point that Roe v.
00:22:24.700
Wade, the concept of Roe v. Wade is popular enough. But abortion itself is not very popular, which is
00:22:29.960
why you've got to go into the details and why you've got to change the wording from the way Democrats
00:22:33.520
have in the polls to the way Republicans do in the polls. And then you've got the motivation factor.
00:22:37.400
People are simply not motivated by this issue at all. Only one in five independent voters,
00:22:42.640
according to new polling by the RNC obtained first by the Daily Wire, one in five independent
00:22:47.460
voters say abortion is the main factor for them in determining a candidate. Only 16% of independent
00:22:52.620
voters said abortion should be allowed at any time during the mother's pregnancy for any reason.
00:22:57.180
When you add Republicans to that number, then that number goes down to 6% of the electorate.
00:23:00.760
So it's the top issue for only 9% of voters. It's a loser, Democrats. I mean, keep it up. You're
00:23:06.260
only winning votes for Republicans at this point. You're only winning support for the overrule of
00:23:11.120
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and Montana. Price is subject to underwriting and health questions. The weird sex stuff does not play
00:24:36.560
for Dems. Whether we're talking about abortion or whether we're talking about gender or transgender
00:24:43.080
or orientations or all sorts of sexual issues, you know that the number of genders has multiplied in
00:24:49.060
recent years from 2 to 56 to 75. Now there's a new gender. I found one yesterday. I had never heard
00:24:57.420
of it before. That would be cake gender. Okay, I would describe xenogenders as a gender that could not
00:25:04.440
typically be described with terms such as masculinity, femininity, neutrality, androgyny, things like that.
00:25:11.560
It's more of not how you relate to a particular gendered experience, but more of how you relate
00:25:18.960
to things. For example, cake gender. I know a few people who personally use this. It's typically
00:25:28.560
described as them feeling light and fluffy or sweet and warm, and it's not something that you
00:25:34.520
could typically describe with the terms masculine, feminine, androgynous, etc. Another example of cake
00:25:40.800
gender would be if someone feels like they have different layers or flavors to their particular
00:25:46.200
gender. I'm cannoli gender. I'm a little prickly on the outside maybe, but really soft and sweet in
00:25:52.640
the middle, you know, and full of chocolate chips actually too. Every gender identity other than man
00:26:01.280
and woman is a euphemism for narcissism, I have come to realize. Every single one,
00:26:09.140
you can be a man, you can be a woman. Before you become a man or a woman, you can be a boy or a girl.
00:26:15.220
Every other gender identity is just a case of people thinking about themselves too much.
00:26:23.500
It's not that they think too much of themselves necessarily. It's that they think of themselves
00:26:28.740
too much, and a man wrapped up in himself makes a small package indeed. Cake gender, the way that
00:26:36.600
this lib, who brought to us, of course, by Libs of TikTok, the way that she describes cake gender
00:26:41.600
is to say, yeah, I think that I'm, you know, I'm sweet. I think I'm a nice person. I think I take,
00:26:49.740
I have some levity to me, and therefore that's a special gender identity that makes me really special
00:26:54.460
and unique. No, you know, most people are kind of nice, at least some of the time. Most people can
00:26:59.080
be sweet some of the time. Most people have some levity. Most people laugh occasionally some of the
00:27:02.720
time. That doesn't make you super duper special, okay? It's a good thing. It's good to be encouraged,
00:27:08.860
but stop. If you just think about yourself and all the ways that you're so super duper special and so
00:27:15.980
different from everybody else, there will be no end to that. All you will do, like Narcissus,
00:27:21.700
is just look down at the mirror and just see yourself, and you won't be able to see all the
00:27:26.020
other beautiful stuff around the world. You won't be able to lift your eyes to heaven. You won't be
00:27:29.620
able to look around at your community. You're just going to be thinking of you, and that's not good.
00:27:34.320
That's really, that's going to drive you crazy, and the people who fall into this stuff are crazy,
00:27:38.820
and they're behaving in a really crazy way, and the way to stop it is to just stop thinking of
00:27:45.120
yourself so much. You are born with the facts of your sexual identity. Namely, you're a boy or a
00:27:53.820
girl, a man or a woman. That's that. Just accept that and move on. You do not need to discover or
00:28:01.060
invent or develop your sexual identity. You've just, you've got it. There you are. Those are the
00:28:05.960
parameters. Those are just like a sonnet has limits, just like all great art has limits. Those are your
00:28:12.440
limits, and you have unique aspects to yourself, and you can develop your own personality, but you
00:28:18.700
don't, you don't need to reinvent everything, okay? And actually, when you think about other people in
00:28:23.680
the world, and when you move on, when you can accept the basic facts of life, that will open, that will
00:28:28.300
free you to think about more important things. It will help you to grow up, which is really what so
00:28:34.380
much of this sexual revolution stuff is about. It's a bunch of people who are stuck and stunted in
00:28:40.580
their maturity at, I don't know, the age of 12 or something, and all they're thinking about is the
00:28:45.340
very base level titillating kind of fleshy things. Move on, guys. At a certain point, we have to grow
00:28:52.460
up, or we're going to have a society of overgrown children, which is unfortunately what we have,
00:28:56.420
and it's not leading to lots of great things. This is, by the way, not, I don't just want to beat up
00:29:02.460
on the people with the weird sex stuff. We all fall into this sometimes. This is why personality
00:29:07.240
tests are so popular on the internet. You know, am I an EPDJ or an IFP? Am I, what am I? I'm such,
00:29:15.500
you're such a Pisces. You're such a Capricorn. Yeah, no, I took this test, and I, you're just,
00:29:22.740
people do that. The reason that advertising agencies put those tests into websites is because
00:29:27.900
they know that you're extremely self-absorbed, and they know, and that's true, most, probably not you.
00:29:33.240
You're the creme de la creme. You're focused on, if you're listening to this show,
00:29:35.680
you're focused on broader things. But for a lot of people out there, they're extremely
00:29:38.940
self-absorbed, and they click those links because they don't really care about art or literature or
00:29:44.340
politics or things outside themselves. They really just care about themselves, and they want to talk
00:29:47.500
more about themselves. Don't do it, folks. It's super boring and silly and embarrassing. Don't do that.
00:29:53.380
Speaking of narcissism, one of the biggest Hollywood, Hollywood, one of the biggest Broadway stars,
00:29:58.460
Patti LuPone, just got caught on audio berating an audience member at one of her shows because the
00:30:08.120
audience member was not wearing his mask in exactly the way that Patti LuPone wanted him to.
00:30:15.760
I just want to address one thing. Please, put your masks over your noses.
00:30:24.020
Oh, do you want me to go put a mask on right now? Did I have a mask on during the show?
00:30:27.720
Do you want me to put a mask on? Because I will.
00:30:37.580
Put your mask over your nose. That's why you're in the theater. That is the rule.
00:30:46.120
If you don't want to follow the rule, get the f*** out!
00:30:53.080
Who do you think you are that you do not respect the people that are sitting around you?
00:31:02.960
Chris, I don't have to pay my salary. Excuse me.
00:31:07.320
Who do you think you are? Do you think you're like me, the person not wearing a mask?
00:31:12.120
The best part of it, of course, is that she is not wearing a mask.
00:31:14.980
She's not supposed to wear a mask. She's a special person. She's famous.
00:31:19.460
She's, even though she's just a Broadway actress, she's probably got some, you know,
00:31:22.520
she's probably fairly wealthy. She goes to very fancy parties. She's celebrated.
00:31:27.120
She doesn't have to do it. Biden doesn't have to wear a mask. That's why he gets caught without
00:31:31.120
a mask all the times, even when he's making everyone else wear one. Dr. Fauci, he doesn't have to wear a mask.
00:31:35.680
All the celebrities at the Met Gala or anywhere else, they don't need to wear masks. Only the
00:31:40.020
dirty, filthy, disgusting staff who might spread their peasant germs to the beautiful elite people,
00:31:45.800
they need to wear the mask. And usually, usually the elites have the common sense,
00:31:50.640
the common basic political self-preservation instinct to not scream at the unwashed masses
00:31:56.780
in public. Patti LuPone, like a lot of Broadway actresses, doesn't have a ton of control over her
00:32:03.040
emotions. And so she goes and just shrieks at this person and says, who do you think you are?
00:32:08.800
Do you think you're me? Yeah, I think that we have at least as many political rights as you are. At
00:32:14.000
least I think we should. And if you were really so concerned about the Wuhan flu, then you just
00:32:20.840
wouldn't perform in the first place. You'd either wear a mask on stage or you just wouldn't show up if
00:32:24.600
this were really such a grave threat to you. But it's not. And you know it's not. And it's just a
00:32:30.640
power trip. And it might have a little to do with neurosis too. But we're not going to take that
00:32:34.940
anymore, okay? And I give a lot of credit. The guy in that audience is the kind of guy who would go
00:32:39.560
see a Broadway show. So we're not, I don't think that this was some rock-ribbed, radical, right-wing
00:32:45.740
Republican or anything. This is the kind of guy who will go to very left-wing cultural events.
00:32:50.260
And he just said, look, I'll put them, but I'm not going to have it over my nose. And I'm not going
00:32:54.420
to back down to you, Patti LuPone. I don't think so. The libs are totally, totally disconnected from
00:33:01.120
reality at this point. Do you remember a few weeks ago, a few weeks ago, we heard that there might be
00:33:09.180
some food shortages in this country. We had an inkling that this was true because, well, for one,
00:33:14.340
our grocery stores have had some weird stocking issues. Supply chain hasn't been great. To say
00:33:21.260
nothing, a price is going through the roof. And when we suggested that, what happened? The libs
00:33:26.700
called us conspiracy theorists. The libs said we were spreading far-right misinformation,
00:33:32.260
disinformation. Oh, whoops. Not only do we have a food shortage, we have a shortage of baby formula.
00:33:38.520
formula. 40% of all baby formula products nationwide are currently out of stock. That's
00:33:46.040
according to CNN. The libs are blaming this on a recall of products from this one Michigan plant
00:33:52.380
that's run by Abbott Nutrition. There's a question, why is the plant, why was it shut down for so long?
00:33:58.220
Why couldn't they just resolve this issue and then reopen it? The baby formula shortage is a big
00:34:04.780
problem because, one, not every baby can breastfeed, not every baby can latch, not every mother can
00:34:09.300
produce milk. Sometimes the mother can produce milk, but not enough milk. So this is a real problem.
00:34:15.060
When you've got a little three-month-old baby, the baby's got to eat. If you don't have formula,
00:34:18.460
that is as acute a problem as there can be in a country. The timing of this, though,
00:34:24.800
really throws it into stark light. The conservatives right now are very, very worried that America won't
00:34:33.100
be able to feed its babies. The conservatives are trying to pass bills. The conservatives are
00:34:37.520
writing to the heads of the agencies, like the FDA, saying, what's going on? We need to make a
00:34:46.020
more efficient process. We need to pass some emergency legislation. We need to get formula to
00:34:50.480
the babies. That's what the conservatives are worried about. The liberals are worried,
00:34:55.560
deathly afraid that they won't be able to kill as many babies anymore. The conservatives want to feed
00:35:01.580
the babies. The libs want to kill the babies. The conservatives are proposing legislation to feed
00:35:05.980
the babies. The libs are proposing legislation to kill the babies, actually to kill more babies even
00:35:10.360
than you would see in a framework of Roe versus Wade. Which do you think is more popular?
00:35:17.940
Well, we know. We know because the abortion bill failed. So we know that that's not particularly popular.
00:35:24.280
So why are they doing it? Why are they doing it? I think, one, they're really trapped by their
00:35:30.420
own ideology. I think, two, they're captive to their radical, radical base, which wants abortion
00:35:35.920
on demand without apology. And three, I think it's just kind of the devil, folks. I think, you know,
00:35:42.380
it's kind of like that bell curve meme where at the very bottom of the bell, like the really dumb
00:35:46.800
people on the bell curve, they're just like, duh, bad people collude with the devil. And then in the
00:35:51.500
middle, it's like, well, no, actually, you know, it's because of all of these rationalist reasons that
00:35:54.900
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then at the very top of the IQ bell curve, it's like, no,
00:35:58.280
it's probably just the devil. I think that's kind of what it is. When you see people crazed,
00:36:02.960
like Elizabeth Warren was, fire in her eyes, fingers itching for the tomahawk, saying,
00:36:07.180
I'm so angry about Roe versus Wade. We're going to stop it. We're going to kill all these babies.
00:36:10.960
We're going to fight back against these babies. The only way that I can explain that mania,
00:36:16.780
ultimately at a really deep level, is that evil is real. There's a personification of evil and
00:36:21.040
people collude with it. That's it. Do I sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist? No,
00:36:25.440
I think I sound like pretty much every wise person throughout the history of the world,
00:36:30.320
all of whom knew that good and evil are real things and have real personalities. And we have
00:36:35.880
some relation to them. Okay. There is a former Ohio state senator, a blue check on Twitter,
00:36:43.260
Nina Turner, who is actually, she's actually taken it all the way to its logical conclusion and has said,
00:36:50.980
look, look, there's a baby formula shortage and Roe v. Wade might be overruled.
00:36:57.120
This just shows you, right? If you were a conservative, you said, this just shows you
00:37:01.040
we need to feed the babies. She said, this just shows you how important it is
00:37:03.780
to kill more of the babies. We got a baby formula shortage. What's the answer to that? You can either
00:37:08.960
make more food or kill more babies. And this woman actually says, quote, there's a national shortage
00:37:13.600
of baby formula. That means babies are going hungry. Instead of taking care of our nation's
00:37:17.080
children, conservatives are worried about banning abortions. Sickening. And this is actually,
00:37:24.140
in her defense, this is the left's argument for abortion. The left's argument for abortion is if
00:37:29.080
a baby might suffer ever, if a baby might have any hardship in his life, it would be better to kill
00:37:37.460
that baby than to let him live and be adopted by parents or whatever. The argument is that suffering
00:37:46.040
of any kind is worse than death. And it explains the libs' reaction to abortion. It explains the
00:37:51.020
libs' reaction to suicide. It explains the libs' policies on drugs, actually, for that matter.
00:37:57.760
Explains the libs' reaction to questions of life. Now, you know, tomorrow is the mailbag.
00:38:04.640
I'm very excited. We've got this new, wonderful process where I get to hear from you in the mailbag.
00:38:09.440
Not just read your questions, but I will get to hear from you. You can leave voicemails in my mailbag.
00:38:14.520
We will play them on the show, so make sure you become a Daily Wire member to go do that.
00:38:18.220
Also, it is the most infamous Supreme Court case in history. It is the deadliest decision in history.
00:38:26.940
And even 50 years after Roe v. Wade, few know the full gruesome truth behind that landmark decision,
00:38:32.820
this decision that has enabled the destruction of over 64 million babies since 1971. Well, tomorrow,
00:38:38.900
May 13th, the Daily Wire will take a wrecking ball to all the four big lies that the abortion
00:38:43.840
industry is built upon. Tune into the world premiere of our original documentary featuring yours truly
00:38:50.020
called Choosing Death, the Legacy of Roe. Uncover the inside story of how Roe v. Wade came to pass
00:38:56.100
and why it needs to pass away. Here's the trailer.
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Many times when we did this, as we started, patients would begin crying and protesting.
00:39:18.000
But once we had begun dilating the cervix and passing instruments into the uterus, it was too late to stop.
00:39:25.500
I was handing hush money to women who we had left pieces of their baby. We had put these women's
00:39:40.720
lives in jeopardy. We had put their lives at risk, and we were literally giving them a check for $800.
00:39:55.340
I mean, there have been so many moments in the last decade plus of going undercover in abortion clinics
00:40:00.340
myself and seeing just heartbreaking things. Women vomiting in the hallway of an abortion clinic,
00:40:07.480
crying out in pain. The late-term abortionists talking casually about how they would literally
00:40:13.880
leave a born-alive baby to die. Or if you deliver the baby in the toilet, then you pick it up and
00:40:18.660
stuff it in a plastic bag and bring it to us. Babies are being born alive. And the backs of their
00:40:24.740
necks are being slid. They are being drowned. Their necks are being snapped. It's happening more
00:40:32.860
often than people want to think about. These abortion facilities, these abortion providers,
00:40:39.860
these doctors. They don't care about these women. And you're just, you're realizing you're watching
00:40:47.200
in front of your own eyes play out America's greatest horror story, which is how we butcher
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00:41:53.020
We've got food shortages. We've got inflation at record highs. We've got gas prices at record
00:42:09.500
highs. We've got immigration, especially illegal immigration at record highs. We've got the first
00:42:13.780
major war in Europe since World War II. We've got lots and lots of problems. Nothing is going
00:42:22.400
right for Joe Biden. And yet Joe Biden insists that this is his strength. And I agree with what
00:42:32.820
Chairman Powell said last week, that the number one threat is the strength and that strength that we've
00:42:40.080
built is inflation. The number one threat is the strength and the strength that we've built is
00:42:51.780
inflation. Now I'm, I think that might be true. I think, I think fact check true on it. Then the number
00:43:01.300
one threat is the strength. Okay. What is it? Strength isn't a threat, right? But what do you,
00:43:05.780
what do you mean by strength? You're saying the strength is that you have built is inflation.
00:43:11.220
Well, you did build inflation. You are one of the principal drivers of the inflation crisis we
00:43:16.580
have right now. And that is the number one threat. So I guess he's telling the truth,
00:43:20.440
probably unwittingly, probably because the teleprompter was too difficult for him to read
00:43:24.340
or something. But I think Joe Biden actually may have just accidentally said the most honest thing
00:43:29.500
he's ever said in his entire career. Yes, this is the threat. This is a major threat to the country,
00:43:36.740
disproportionately to people at the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum. And it's a big threat
00:43:42.720
to his presidency. And it's why the Democrats are running scared here. I think it's why in large part,
00:43:49.940
they tried to shift away from the economic problems to a cultural issue like abortion. And then abortion
00:43:54.980
didn't work for them. Then it turned out that was actually a loser too. So now they're trying to
00:43:58.560
shift and say, Republicans want to get rid of contraception. They're making this argument.
00:44:01.820
They're saying, if we overrule Roe v. Wade, then they're going to overrule the Griswold decision,
00:44:05.640
which found a constitutional right to contraception. They're going to outlaw interracial
00:44:10.480
marriage. They're truly grasping at straws because they know that this is a loser. They know that the
00:44:19.760
midterms right now, unless there is widespread voter fraud, which there might be. There's a great new
00:44:26.140
movie out by Dinesh D'Souza called 2000 Mules. I actually haven't seen the whole movie yet,
00:44:30.140
so I want to wait to comment on it until I can finish the movie. But there is, you know, as we've
00:44:34.740
said, especially on this show, as we've said from the very beginning since election night 2020,
00:44:41.220
lots of questions about that election, lots of weird stuff, lots of obvious violations of the law
00:44:46.300
in certain states and how the election was conducted. Huh, it's kind of, that's not good. If we don't get our
00:44:51.260
election security under control, then we're not going to, it's not going to matter how much momentum we have
00:44:55.180
going into the midterms or into 2024. But assuming that we can get that under control, which we have
00:45:00.300
in certain states at least, it's going to be a blowout. Assuming nothing changes, it's going to
00:45:05.860
be an absolute blowout for Joe Biden and for the Democrats. I think a lot of people right now are
00:45:10.920
looking back on those Trump days, those days of Republican rule quite fondly. I think, I think
00:45:16.160
people want Trump back. If not in the White House, though probably that too, but if not in the White House,
00:45:20.760
certainly on Twitter, which is why Elon Musk is now saying, this is really breaking news,
00:45:24.440
Elon Musk is saying he will, he would gladly reinstate Trump's Twitter account.
00:45:30.060
I guess the answer is that I would reverse the perma ban. I would say I'm not, I don't own Twitter yet,
00:45:36.340
so this is not like a thing that will definitely happen, because what if I don't own Twitter?
00:45:40.420
But my opinion, and Jack Dorsey, I want to be clear, shares his opinion, is that we should not have
00:45:47.220
Okay, great. Great, done. Why is he doing this? One, because it's the right thing to do. Elon made
00:45:53.800
this point, explicitly said, I think it was morally wrong to ban Trump, but he's also doing it. This
00:45:59.040
is a real message. If you're not a true rock-ribbed conservative, constitutionalist, patriot, whatever
00:46:04.840
word you want to use, at least let me appeal to your self-interest right now. The issues that
00:46:11.540
conservatives are running on are winning issues. Having the ability to speak freely on social media,
00:46:19.020
that's a winning issue. The libs have a losing position on that. The conservatives have a winning
00:46:23.040
position. Pro-life, pro-life or pro-abortion, look at that vote yesterday in the Senate. The pro-life
00:46:28.620
side is the winning argument here. Okay, the restricting immigration, that is a winning argument.
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Poll after poll after poll shows it. The stop printing money and sending it to all people all
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over the world and actually maybe focus your resources at home, that's a winning argument.
00:46:50.180
Stop letting Dr. Fauci govern the country, get rid of all the stupid COVID stuff. That's a winning
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argument. All the conservative arguments are winning. Even just from your self-interest,
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you should be siding with the conservatives. If you're in the middle, if you're a squish,
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if you're an independent, it is in your interest to side with the conservatives.
00:47:07.900
For goodness sakes, even Whoopi Goldberg agrees on this point, especially on the point that Elon just
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made. Whoopi Goldberg, on the view she is a very left-wing lady, she just said, yeah,
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if Elon wants to put Trump back on Twitter, that's probably the right thing to do.
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Listen, Donald Trump wants to be on Twitter. If people want to listen to him, fine. Fine.
00:47:27.620
Because that's what it is. That's where we have said to people, you have the right to say whatever
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you want to in this place. We've let it go. And when it suited us, it was fine. And when it doesn't
00:47:40.900
suit us, it's a problem. So right, Whoopi. You tell him. That's right. Yes. If people want to
00:47:47.160
listen to Donald Trump, who is, by the way, who is not some fringe, radical, extremist,
00:47:52.420
dangerous, he's a former president of the United States, for goodness sakes. He's been a celebrity
00:47:56.480
for 40 years. He's a very well-known cultural figure. If people want to hear from him,
00:48:00.420
they should be able to hear from him. It's not just crazy right-wingers who think that.
00:48:05.120
A lot of liberals think that too. A lot of Democrats think that too. That's why the
00:48:07.820
Democrats are getting crushed in the polls right now. We want to talk about issues of freedom.
00:48:12.440
Senator Cruz just proposed a phenomenal new bill. This is the, wait for it. It's the Allowing
00:48:20.200
Military Exemptions Recognizing Individual Concerns About New Shots Act of 2022, also known as the
00:48:29.900
Americans Act. That, boo, boo, Senator Cruz. That acronym is too good. It's too good. You know,
00:48:40.380
politicians love acronyms. That's a really good one. And it's a really great bill.
00:48:44.080
Senator Cruz and a group of 13 GOP senators, so 14 total, have introduced this bill to protect
00:48:51.440
military service members from punishment for declining to get the Fauci ouchie. This is a good
00:48:56.860
idea because Joe Biden wants to punish conservatives, largely conservatives, but anyone who has an
00:49:01.560
opposition to taking this experimental drug that doesn't do what everyone told us it was going to do
00:49:05.880
to protect against the virus, which isn't nearly as bad as everyone told us it was going to be,
00:49:11.900
which is just to protect people from having medical experiments done on them, okay? Especially
00:49:15.420
our service members. It seems like really basic stuff. And there have been lots of military members
00:49:20.320
who've been discharged already over this issue. So this bill would protect them, allow them to go
00:49:25.560
back into the service. This bill would protect people who are still holding out in the service
00:49:29.180
who don't want to take this dumb shot. Really great stuff. It's the right thing to do. Senator Cruz,
00:49:35.760
I mean, I know this personally because we host a show together and we've been talking about this
00:49:38.680
from the very beginning. He has always been on the side of this issue, right? He's always been
00:49:43.920
saying, no, we shouldn't, no one should be forced to take this shot, but definitely not the service
00:49:48.360
members. Now there might be, with the elections coming up, there might be an opportunity to push
00:49:53.740
this through. Certainly by the time the next Senate rolls around, every Republican should be running
00:50:00.600
on this. Every Republican. Not only because it's the right thing to do, but because it's a winning
00:50:05.700
issue. The reason I brought David Pakman on the show today was not to debate abortion. We debated
00:50:11.100
abortion with Bronte Remzik last week. You can go watch that debate. It's online. I felt she gave a very
00:50:16.660
honest view of her ghastly side of the argument and I appreciated her coming on. The reason I brought
00:50:21.140
David Pakman on today is because I know that he's got some at least reasonable political instincts
00:50:27.100
here. And I wanted to see, David, are you going to defend people showing up at judges' homes and
00:50:32.420
screaming and shouting? Are you going to defend this extra political kind of, you know, vandalizing
00:50:38.580
pro-life centers? Are you going to defend Democrats running on the issue of abortion? And to his credit,
00:50:44.880
he said, no, I'm not. I'm not. It's a bad idea. Don't do it, guys. Come on, back off it. I hope
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that the Democrats don't get the message. I hope Republicans hold firm. I hope a lot of people in
00:50:55.020
the middle catch what's going on right now and see these two visions of the country and side with the
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