The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1015 - Jimmy Kimmel's Tears Don't Stop Bad People

00:00:00.000 New facts are emerging out of the Texas elementary school where that awful shooting took place

00:00:05.320 this week. And these new facts somehow make the whole thing even more horrible

00:00:10.300 because they suggest that the horror might have been prevented. We're talking about simple facts

00:00:16.300 here. The doors to the school were unlocked. The killer entered through an unmonitored door in the

00:00:23.400 back. There was no armed guard on duty anywhere on the school premises. Had even just those

00:00:31.780 circumstances been different? Of course, it's no guarantee that the shooter would have been stopped

00:00:37.000 or that the death toll would have been lower. But it certainly would have reduced the likelihood

00:00:42.100 that the shooter could have done what he did. And it's precisely these sorts of facts that activists

00:00:48.600 in the media are trying to deny. I say this tonight with the hope, not with an expectation,

00:00:54.840 but with the hope that people like Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott and John Cornyn, people who were elected

00:01:01.220 by Texans, will actually listen to it. Instead of going right to gun control laws don't work and we

00:01:07.720 need armed teachers and guards at schools. If your solution to children being massacred is armed guards,

00:01:15.340 you haven't been paying attention to what's going on. There was an armed guard in Buffalo. There was an

00:01:21.840 armed guard in Parkland. There was an armed guard in Uvalde. They had armed guards.

00:01:27.640 So what Jimmy Kimmel just said is not true. It's not true with regard to this shooting that we just

00:01:32.840 saw in Texas. I'm not even saying he's lying. He probably just doesn't know. But that falsehood,

00:01:39.760 and for some people, that lie is essential to the agenda. And the agenda here is not so much

00:01:45.120 about improving the safety of schools as it is about enacting the mostly unrelated gun control

00:01:50.980 laws that liberals have wanted for decades. All the very same laws that, as even the Washington

00:01:55.740 Post admits, wouldn't have stopped the mass shootings. There are lots of gun laws that Democrats

00:02:01.540 want and that Republicans and voters more broadly, actually, will never let them pass.

00:02:07.020 For sure, there are. There are plenty of gun laws that Republicans want that Democrats won't let 0.50

00:02:13.760 them pass. That's true too. But then there are really basic laws that theoretically could be passed

00:02:22.300 that would go a long way toward protecting schools, funding armed guards, upgrading school buildings to

00:02:29.040 better secure the doors. These are not particularly ideological reforms. These are not an opportunity to

00:02:35.240 score big partisan points. These are just basic safety precautions to protect schools, which is why

00:02:42.280 we are almost certainly not going to get them. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:05:02.540 Not everything has to be an extreme partisan fight. Practically speaking, I guess it does

00:05:10.300 these days. But it shouldn't have to be a big partisan fight. There are some really basic

00:05:16.300 things about society that we can all agree on. I would hope, at least until very recently,

00:05:23.520 we could all agree on. A leftist would not want to use this tumbler to drink delicious tears or

00:05:31.160 sparkling water or whatever you're drinking. They wouldn't want to use this tumbler because it

00:05:34.340 says leftist tears. Just like I wouldn't want to use a tumbler that says conservative tears.

00:05:40.400 But at the very least, we should both be able to agree that you should drink sparkling water out of

00:05:46.000 a cup rather than out of, I don't know, a kazoo. There are basic facts about reality that we should

00:05:53.000 all be able to agree on that don't necessarily need to have a Republican color or a Democrat color or

00:05:58.060 a left or right. Not everything has to be about ideology. The reason it feels like it does is

00:06:04.940 because the left's political program is about upending society. The left's political program

00:06:11.020 is essentially revolutionary. That's been true not just for the past 20 years. It's been true

00:06:16.200 going back to the French Revolution. It's been true further back than that. That we've got to remake 0.98

00:06:20.760 the whole world anew. And all of the inherited wisdom of the past, it's not wisdom at all. It's

00:06:27.560 terrible. It's awful. It's bigoted. It's making us all miserable. We've got to get rid of it. But

00:06:31.780 there is a lot of wisdom in the past. We actually have learned things over the history of humanity,

00:06:36.800 really basic things. It doesn't necessarily need to be about rights and entitlement and high-minded

00:06:42.520 philosophy. It can just be, hey, lock the doors. Hey, lock the doors when you want to stay safe.

00:06:48.520 Hey, have single points of entry. Hey, have people whose job it is to protect other people when they're

00:06:53.900 a soft target. Really, really simple stuff. There was an interview in Chicago. It took place yesterday

00:07:01.240 or the day before. This was conducted by a Fox affiliate in Chicago. So not Fox News, the center

00:07:07.500 right news channel, but just a regular old network affiliate. They're conducting the interview on the

00:07:12.200 street about guns in Chicago. During the interview, some dude comes out and brandishes a pistol at

00:07:18.840 the cameraman. Around seven o'clock this morning at the corner of Clark and Hubbard, while our reporter

00:07:26.260 was in the middle of a live report about gun violence in Chicago, a man walked up and pointed what

00:07:32.060 appeared to be a firearm at our crew. Right now, police are calling this man a person of interest,

00:07:37.620 accused of aggravated assault with a firearm. This guy who brandished the gun on the street

00:07:43.660 at the reporter, he doesn't look like he's been living on the street for the past two years. He

00:07:48.520 doesn't look like necessarily some schizophrenic, drug addicted, derelict roaming the streets.

00:07:54.980 He's fairly well-dressed. He seems fairly clean. He doesn't seem sane in that no sane person should be

00:08:02.560 brandishing a weapon on the street. But really, he just seems, he seems bold. He seems like he

00:08:09.200 knows there aren't going to be any consequences for this kind of behavior. And why? Because there

00:08:13.080 won't be. Because throughout many of our major cities, run by leftists, people are not arrested

00:08:21.460 for crimes. Because for the past two years, the left has run on defunding the police and abolishing

00:08:27.420 police departments and installing far-left DAs that just won't prosecute people for crime.

00:08:31.720 And then during COVID, they emptied out the jails. And they just say, they're sending a message to

00:08:36.600 the criminals, hey, do whatever you want. We're not going to stop you. So is it any wonder that

00:08:42.020 people like this are emboldened in Chicago? Do you know what would stop this kind of behavior?

00:08:46.620 It doesn't need to be some pie in the sky, really extremely sophisticated ideological thing.

00:08:52.720 Arrest the criminals. Arrest him. That dude should be nabbed immediately. He should go to jail for a long

00:08:59.140 time. He should be punished. Not just a little plea deal slap on the hand. Well, society failed

00:09:04.100 him. Well, he had a tough upbringing. And let's just divert him into a nice special non-profit

00:09:10.780 program. No, punish him. He's a bad guy. And if you don't want him to remain a bad guy,

00:09:16.960 if you want him to become a better guy, then punish him. Enforce basic laws. Is that so much to ask?

00:09:23.500 These days, I guess it is. Because none of the people now who are clamoring, do something,

00:09:28.840 do something, do something, none of them seem to care at all about fixing the problems that

00:09:33.920 they're claiming to want to fix. They're all just pushing the same old ideological agenda

00:09:38.080 that they were pushing 10 months ago, two years ago, 10 years ago. Joe Biden now has gone off and

00:09:46.360 made this entire effort, which should be about protecting schools, into an effort to ban AR-15. 0.85

00:09:53.500 No one needs an AR-15, something designed for no other purpose, none, other than to kill human

00:10:03.520 beings. There's no other rationale for its existence than to kill them as quickly and as brutally as 1.00

00:10:10.760 possible. It's not exactly true because you can kill squirrels with an AR-15. I think you could even 0.99

00:10:18.640 kill deer, though it wouldn't be particularly humane. But to his, it's also, AR-15s are not

00:10:26.100 the quickest way to kill people because they're not, contrary to what the left would have you

00:10:29.920 believe, they're not fully automatic weapons. They're not assault rifles. A fully automatic

00:10:33.900 weapon, you pull the trigger and a spray of bullets comes out. A semi-automatic weapon, you pull the

00:10:38.300 trigger, one bullet comes out, you pull the trigger again, another bullet comes out. So what he's saying

00:10:42.280 technically is not true. But to his broader point, he says, these guns kill people. And he's implying

00:10:49.940 that that's a bad thing for guns to do. That is the purpose of guns. That is the purpose of the

00:10:53.860 Second Amendment. That is the purpose of the right to self-defense, is that if someone comes to attack

00:10:59.760 you, you have the right to defend yourself. That's what they're for. People are not buying these guns

00:11:05.040 to go hunt squirrels. And he's insinuating that this is a bad thing. What is his solution? What is

00:11:12.120 his solution? If he's saying that the problem with the AR-15 is they're designed to kill people, then that

00:11:17.420 means we have to get rid of all the guns. But not just the AR-15s, handguns are designed to kill people.

00:11:23.620 In fact, handguns are much more directly designed to kill people than any of the rifles are, or any of

00:11:29.380 the shotguns are. So then you have to get rid of all the guns. Are you going to do that, Joe Biden?

00:11:33.380 No, you'd have to repeal the Second Amendment. Are you going to do that? No, you can't do that.

00:11:37.580 And most people don't want you to do that. So what are you going to do? Are you going to pass laws

00:11:44.240 in contravention of the Second Amendment? Are you going to try to change the interpretation of the

00:11:48.920 Second Amendment? You're going to just confiscate all the guns without repealing the Second Amendment?

00:11:53.960 There are more guns than people in America. So what is the practical effect of what he's proposing?

00:11:59.320 Nothing. Philosophically, it's incoherent.

00:12:03.380 Constitutionally, it's incoherent. Legally, it's incoherent. But even put all that aside,

00:12:08.080 those are the ideological debates and the philosophies. Just practically, it's not going

00:12:12.140 to happen. It's completely fantastical. So then what does he do? He's not doing anything. He's

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00:13:40.240 Okay. Now the libs are not, they're not just exploiting the tragedy to push the same old laws

00:13:48.260 that are somewhat related to the tragedy, but largely unrelated, the same old gun laws.

00:13:54.320 Now they're exploiting it to push their views of abortion. Julia Ioff, who is a blue check journo, 0.82

00:14:01.180 a liberal journalist, though basically I repeat myself, when you say journalist,

00:14:06.560 usually you're referring to a liberal. She just tweeted out, quote, what if you could perform 1.00

00:14:11.200 an abortion with an AR-15? You would defend AR-15s? I guess. What point is she trying to make here?

00:14:21.900 What if you could perform an abortion with an AR-15? Well, actually you can perform an abortion

00:14:25.140 with an AR-15, strictly speaking. Probably not safest for the mother, but you could. What is an

00:14:30.500 abortion? Abortion is killing a little baby. So you could, what point is she making here? 1.00

00:14:36.560 I think she's undermining her own argument, but she's trying to insinuate that Republicans care

00:14:42.260 very much about babies when they're in the womb, but they don't care about children when they're 0.99

00:14:46.440 outside the womb. Because if they cared about children outside the womb, they would ban AR-15s, 0.92

00:14:50.800 even though banning AR-15s would have almost certainly zero effect on any of these mass shooting

00:14:57.140 incidents. Even though banning AR-15s, which we did, by the way, we did it in the 90s and it just

00:15:04.100 didn't do anything to the murder rate. Even though these claims ban the AR-15s and all of the other

00:15:11.380 proposals that the Democrats have made in recent years would not have stopped the mass shootings

00:15:16.240 as even the Washington Post admits. So what point are you making? Well, Republicans are bad. It's all

00:15:23.540 this vague insinuation without any facts whatsoever. It's all just this do something,

00:15:28.840 do something. What do you want to do? Yelling do something and mocking people for offering their

00:15:35.360 prayers does not make you virtuous. It's no more productive than the people who are trying to do

00:15:42.400 something and perhaps failing. It's certainly no more productive than them. It's far less productive,

00:15:47.920 I think. And it's far more crass because you're exploiting an incident that we should all agree is

00:15:55.340 tragic. And there might be some things, some really basic safety precautions we could do to at least

00:15:59.880 amp up the safety of the schools. And you're using that and you're ignoring the proposals to make the

00:16:05.340 schools safer. And you're just moving on to get to your regular old hobby horse and get to your regular

00:16:09.820 old pet project in politics. In this case, abortion, which is entirely unrelated. But they're so obsessed

00:16:17.720 with abortion because they know how bad this makes them look. They're so obsessed with abortion because

00:16:24.880 they know that abortion is the logical conclusion of their entire political agenda, which is about 0.76

00:16:31.480 liberation and individual autonomy and selfishness, ultimately. Me, me, me. I will do whatever I want.

00:16:39.480 Alistair Crowley said that, what was the line? To do your will is the entirety of the law. Do what

00:16:48.760 thou wilt. And that is the entirety of the law. It's a hideous perversion, inversion of Christianity. 0.98

00:16:55.060 And it just boils down to what we all know that the left is after, which is selfishness. I, me,

00:16:58.680 my, I, me, my, I, me, my. And they know that that's the logical conclusion. They know that that's

00:17:02.380 ugly. At a really basic level, be selfish is not a persuasive political platform. But they have to

00:17:08.780 keep defending it, especially now that abortion is potentially about to be restricted. There was a

00:17:14.860 gal on TikTok. I didn't believe this was legitimate at first. A gal on TikTok breastfeeding her child 0.96

00:17:22.380 defending abortion. I could have killed you, but I chose to let you live. I chose to let her live. 1.00

00:17:32.260 As in, I had a choice. All women should have a choice. Do you realize what you just said? Killed. 1.00

00:17:38.960 I cannot wrap my brain around this. Don't matter how I look at it. If you don't want to use the word 0.76

00:17:43.120 kill, that's fine. If you want to use the word kill, that's fine. When you use hand sanitizer,

00:17:47.260 you kill germs. I could have simply chosen to let you not exist, but I let you exist. I let you form

00:17:54.120 past the zygote phase. Is that better? So yes, I realized what I just said and I stand by it. If you want

00:18:00.500 to get an abortion, get an abortion. If you don't want to get an abortion, don't get an abortion, 1.00

00:18:03.840 but don't try to oppress my rights. You got to hand it to her. This stone cold psycho 1.00

00:18:11.420 is at least being honest about the whole thing. She's saying right now, I could have killed you 1.00

00:18:17.960 and I chose not to kill you. And I know you pro-abortion people out there, you fellow pro-abortion 0.97

00:18:24.140 people, you don't want me to use the word kill. You want me to use some other euphemism. And she kind

00:18:28.300 of makes fun of the euphemisms. I let you form past the zygote phase, which of course the zygote

00:18:32.920 refers to the extremely brief period of time when a baby is a single cell and then it almost instantly

00:18:39.100 is no longer a zygote. You can use whatever euphemism you want. You're still talking

00:18:43.520 about the same living human being. She says, okay, I can use all these euphemisms, but it just means

00:18:48.500 kill, right? And yeah, that's what we should be defending. That's what abortion is. And I want my 0.88

00:18:53.020 right, my license to kill the baby. And I, in this case, I chose not to, but my choice, my 0.99

00:18:59.360 exercise of the will absent all reason and justice is the most important political value. And that's

00:19:05.180 that. And if you don't like it tough, she is saying the quiet part out loud and it is extremely

00:19:12.300 disturbing to watch her say it period, but certainly say it while breastfeeding and certainly say it to 1.00

00:19:17.220 her baby. But that's it. That's, that's what the logic of abortion is. And I thank her. I am indebted

00:19:25.140 to her for, for not hiding it and not, not trying to deceive everybody. No, that's it. If you find that

00:19:32.240 appealing, then you support abortion. If you find that ghastly and unthinkable, then you're pro-life. 0.97

00:19:38.220 And maybe you haven't worked out all the abstract and all the really high sophisticated philosophy and

00:19:43.660 biology. But if you recoil at that video and you say, whoa, man, this is wrong. You are pro-life.

00:19:52.700 Just as this gal has followed her pro-abortion ideas to their logical conclusion, you just need 0.82

00:19:59.040 to follow your pro-life instincts to their logical conclusion. Not just her. There was a gal, 0.67

00:20:05.580 she's a BLM activist. Andy Ngo, my friend Andy Ngo just pointed this out yesterday. She's on Twitter

00:20:12.240 by the name Hidden Agenda. And she, I'm not going to read all of this. She sent out a long narrative

00:20:18.200 of her getting an abortion. But here's what, here's what she said. She said,

00:20:23.540 I didn't know when I was going to be ready to share my story, but I guess I was never going to be ready.

00:20:30.700 Just effing angry. So here goes nothing. I got an abortion and it saved my effing life.

00:20:36.100 Then she says, she showed up and she was told that she was about 26, 27 weeks pregnant.

00:20:47.240 And it goes, update. Checked my MyChart to confirm. And I was 27 weeks and six days,

00:20:52.740 closer to 28 weeks pregnant. This is pretty much almost exactly as pregnant as sweet little Elisa

00:21:01.480 is right now with our baby. Who's kicking all the time. Who's moving all the time. Who's responding

00:21:05.440 to a ton of stimuli. Who is a fully formed baby. When you're 28 weeks pregnant, you are

00:21:12.240 very, very formed. You are identifiably human and living in every single way. And she says,

00:21:19.960 she went in and she said, I want an abortion. And there were only a few places where that is even 1.00

00:21:23.560 still legal even today in America. She got the shot to kill the baby, a shot through her stomach. 0.99

00:21:29.940 And then she says, Monday, January 17th, 2022 at approximately 6.30 PM. After a grueling night 0.90

00:21:36.700 filled with so much pain that I needed an epidural morphine and fentanyl, I gave birth to a just over

00:21:41.580 two pound, seven inch girl with no heartbeat. And she wanted this. She couldn't wait another 36 weeks 1.00

00:21:54.060 you can deliver. She couldn't wait another eight weeks to deliver this baby that she hated, her own 0.64

00:21:59.340 child. And just give the baby up for adoption to the many, many, many couples who are trying to

00:22:04.360 adopt. She wouldn't do that. She said, no, I'm not going to allow you to live. It wasn't even about

00:22:09.200 avoiding birth. I'm at least glad that this woman has debunked the lie that pro-lifers are in favor 0.84

00:22:17.000 of forced birth and that abortion somehow allows you to avoid birth. No, this woman didn't avoid birth. 1.00

00:22:22.360 She said she gave birth to a baby girl. The only difference is that the baby girl that she gave birth

00:22:27.460 to was dead because she had already killed her, but she's, she still gave birth. She just so hated 1.00

00:22:32.920 this baby and was so insistent on exercising her will, her selfish will, even to the point of killing 0.94

00:22:42.060 others, even to the point of killing her own child, that she was willing to give birth and go through

00:22:47.360 exactly all the same pain and all the same discomfort for a dead baby. This is the conclusion that Drew

00:22:57.800 Clavin talks about this, talk about logical conclusions. He says that one of the things

00:23:02.680 that brought him back to Christianity was actually the Marquis de Sade. The Marquis de Sade is where we

00:23:07.080 get the word sadism from. He's one of probably the most famous psycho in the history of the world.

00:23:11.340 And he was a pornographer and a killer and a psycho and also a philosopher, a philosopher of 0.99

00:23:17.980 torture and sadism and selfishness. And at the bottom of the Marquis de Sade's philosophy is 0.99

00:23:26.000 this one question, why, why is your pain any more important than my pleasure? Why should I care about

00:23:35.140 you at all, even to the point of torture, even to the point of death? If I want something,

00:23:41.680 why do I have to care about any of that, even to the point of killing my own kid?

00:23:46.420 Well, she's following that to its logical conclusion, getting rid of all the propaganda,

00:23:52.020 all the fake facts. It's not a baby. The baby's not alive. The baby's not a person. The baby doesn't

00:23:56.320 have to be born. No, she's saying, no, none of that's true. This is a human baby. I'm giving birth.

00:24:00.120 I just, I just want to kill it. If you recoil at that, just as this woman has followed abortion 1.00

00:24:06.100 to its logical conclusion, if you recoil in any way, you are pro-life. Just follow those views to

00:24:11.120 their logical conclusion. It's evil stuff. It's evil. It's the only way you can describe that.

00:24:20.580 There's no just totally clinical, neutral language we can use to describe the pistons firing in the brain

00:24:29.600 and the, no, it's just evil. Okay. Good and evil are real. They're much, they're much more real than

00:24:37.660 a lot of our scientific jargon that we use to deny these basic things that we all know to be true.

00:24:43.220 Good and evil, the things that people intuit, the moral realities that people intuit using their

00:24:48.360 common sense are much more real than the jargony abstractions that we all cook up in our postmodern

00:24:56.120 philosophy and sociology. And the left wants to deny good and evil because the left's program is

00:25:03.620 revolutionary. The left's program is undoing, upending everything that has been established.

00:25:11.240 You really see Marx take this to its logical conclusion in its fullest expression when Karl

00:25:16.460 Marx says that he wants to engage in the ruthless criticism of all that exists, which is where we get

00:25:23.520 things like critical theory from, critical race theory. We hear a lot of a critical legal theory,

00:25:27.540 that this withering, ruthless criticism of everything, all that exists, everything in

00:25:34.740 society, not just the laws, but the customs, not just the customs, but the institutions, not just the

00:25:39.640 institutions, but the family, the basic institution, not just the family, but human nature itself,

00:25:44.220 sex, boys and girls, the way we relate to one another, the way we relate to ourselves,

00:25:48.280 all of that has to be upended. And in order to do that, you have to deny the reality of good and

00:25:53.580 evil, true and false, right and wrong, which we all can interpret. This is why Gavin Newsom,

00:25:58.780 governor of California, I think unwittingly gave away the Democrats a game here in responding to the

00:26:07.200 shooting that took place in Texas. Governor Abbott, Greg Abbott of Texas, talked about the realities

00:26:14.400 of evil and the dangers of mental illness and the dangers of isolation and loneliness and the

00:26:20.280 problems of community fracture and losing some of these basic common sense measures that can protect

00:26:25.320 the community. And Gavin Newsom, all the way from California, decided to take potshots at him

00:26:29.840 for having the audacity, the gall to mention evil. 0.99

00:26:34.340 Do not give in to the cynicism and all the crap that you heard today in that press conference 0.94

00:26:41.860 around evil and mental health that completely belies the fact that there's only one nation on planet 0.97

00:26:49.860 earth that separates itself from all other nations. And that's the United States of America.

00:26:57.260 And the perversion of a second amendment that begins around well-regulated, well-regulated

00:27:08.300 gun policy.

00:27:12.300 So what he said factually there is not true, and you hear it repeated a lot by the left,

00:27:16.300 which is that the United States is the only, it's the outlier in the whole world. We have more mass

00:27:21.140 killings than anybody. It's not even close. And the only reason for that is because we have guns here.

00:27:26.820 The claim is just not true. It's not true when you adjust for population. We have a pretty large

00:27:32.240 population. When you adjust for population size, we're actually kind of toward the middle of the pack.

00:27:36.660 When you look at mass killing incidents, when you look at rates of violent crime and murder,

00:27:41.220 we're far closer to the middle of the pack in the forties, in the fifties than we are number one

00:27:46.900 far and away. That's not true. So the libs are manipulating statistics to make that claim. That's

00:27:51.180 what he's doing there. But forget about the statistics. You know, I don't really believe

00:27:54.060 in statistics. I'm happy to cite them when they back up my opinion as they do just now. But you have

00:27:59.440 your statistics, I have my statistics, and there are lies, damn lies in statistics. The craziest thing 1.00

00:28:04.720 that Newsom just said there is, ignore the cynicism you heard today about the realities of evil.

00:28:13.220 He's saying that to talk about evil is to be cynical, when in fact, that is the opposite of cynicism.

00:28:20.700 Cynicism is indifference toward the truth. Cynicism is the denial of truth. You see the perfect example

00:28:28.640 of cynicism when Christ is before Pontius Pilate and Christ says, I am the truth. And Pontius Pilate

00:28:36.620 says, what is truth? That is the perfect expression of cynicism. What is truth? That's what Gavin Newsom's

00:28:46.060 saying. He said, what is evil? What is good and bad? What is true and false? What is evil? Come on.

00:28:55.960 What is goodness? You're using those silly old terms. No, that's not real. We're just talking 0.98

00:29:01.980 about statistics. That is cynicism. He is the cynical guy, which is no surprise, of course,

00:29:07.940 because the Libs always project. The Libs are always accusing their opponents of the things that

00:29:12.620 they themselves are doing. How cynical? The only thing that might mitigate his culpability here is

00:29:22.440 that Gavin Newsom probably doesn't even understand the irony of what he's saying. But he is the one

00:29:26.840 pushing cynicism here. They're woe to those who call good evil and evil good. And you're seeing it

00:29:32.980 in the elementary schools. There was an elementary school in Wisconsin, which is now investigating a

00:29:39.920 school counselor for, quote unquote, immoral conduct. What was the immoral conduct? This counselor

00:29:47.320 opposes not just transgenderism, but opposes transing the kids. And this is considered

00:29:56.320 immoral by the school. Melissa Darling received a letter from the Wisconsin Department of Public

00:30:03.080 Instruction, April 29th, warning her that her state-issued license could be revoked if the 0.99

00:30:08.420 investigation finds she engaged in immoral conduct at a rally. They want to determine whether she said

00:30:14.800 F transgenderism on video and whether she said that she does not believe that children should

00:30:21.060 have access to cross-sex hormones or surgery. I don't think the immoral conduct is that she said

00:30:28.140 the F word. I suspect every teacher at that school and every staff member at that school has used the

00:30:32.560 F word at some point. It's that she said, you do not believe that children should be put on cross-sex

00:30:36.680 hormones and have their bodies mutilated. That's considered immoral. Of course, it is immoral to do that to

00:30:41.920 children. It is moral not to do that to children. There's no neutrality here. It's not just that

00:30:47.240 they've said, look, we're going to keep an open mind and be very liberal. No. They took the old

00:30:52.280 standard, which is mutilating kids' bodies and confusing them sexually is wrong. And they've said,

00:30:57.980 no, that's right. And not doing that is wrong. Disney Plus is doing this. We will get to the

00:31:02.580 mailbag. I'm always running late, as per usual. Disney Plus. Disney got dragged for promoting the weird

00:31:08.660 sex stuff with the little kids. Disney right now is doubling down on that and producing drag queen 1.00

00:31:16.220 content for little kids on Disney Plus. Hello, and welcome to the Disney Plus This Is Me Pride

00:31:24.600 Celebration Spectacular. I'm Nina West, and I'm here to guide you through a magical, musical, and

00:31:31.200 meaningful celebration of the LGBTQ plus community. Glisten's mission is to create safe and inclusive

00:31:38.620 schools for LGBTQ plus students in grades K through 12. And Disney Plus is so proud to support this

00:31:45.660 wonderful organization. For more information, visit www.glisten.org forward slash pride.

00:31:53.780 What are you going to do about it? They've already been dragged through the mud, Disney, and they don't

00:31:57.840 care. They're doubling down on trying to pervert the kids. They're doubling down on pushing perverted 0.99

00:32:04.060 sexual ideologies on little kids. And they're saying this is totally neutral. This is, look,

00:32:11.480 this is neutral. We're not pushing a moral view one way or the other. It's just, it's just open,

00:32:15.460 it's liberal, it's inclusive, it's diverse. How cynical do you have to be to say that sort of thing?

00:32:21.100 Woe to those who call good evil, evil good. If you, if you believe that there is no moral

00:32:27.240 component here, if you believe that you can just live in a totally neutral world where the realities of

00:32:32.440 right and wrong and good and bad and true and false don't matter, then you are as naive as can be.

00:32:38.540 You're so naive you could believe Gavin Newsom. You're so naive that you could believe Joe Biden 0.74

00:32:43.200 and the rest of these people who are pushing their radical moral agenda on you. And for so long,

00:32:50.300 the conservatives just roll over. They don't even know that it's happening. You know, for countless

00:32:53.880 actors and comedians in Hollywood who dare to push the wrong sequence of keys on their phone

00:32:58.140 or breathe the wrong way into a microphone. They pay with their careers, torn away from them

00:33:03.580 by a savage woke mob. Like my friend Gina Carano. Gina Carano tweeted unthinkable thoughts such as 1.00

00:33:11.060 neighbors should be nice to each other and elections should be fair. She was immediately thrown out of

00:33:17.140 the cast of The Mandalorian. She was banished from the magical kingdom. The whole thing was an

00:33:23.800 atrocity. And at The Daily Wire, we will not stand for it. That's why we fought back by hiring Gina

00:33:28.780 and starring her in our new summer blockbuster, Terror on the Prairie, which premieres exclusively

00:33:34.380 on The Daily Wire on June 14th. Set on the plains of Montana, this gritty thriller follows a family

00:33:39.300 of pioneers as they defend themselves from a vicious gang of outlaws hellbent on revenge.

00:33:44.800 We are giving you a sneak peek next week when the trailer will drop on June 1st. To top it all off,

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00:33:59.320 week coming up, the mailbag sponsored by Pure Talk. I love Pure Talk because they have a great service

00:34:05.220 and they have great phones and they're terrific. But even more than that, somehow even more than that,

00:34:10.360 I love Pure Talk because they're sponsoring our new voicemail bag so that you can send your voicemails

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00:34:18.780 NOLSPODCAST to save 50% off your first month. Let's get to the first voicemail bag.

00:34:23.720 Hi, Michael. Huge fan of the show. I just wanted to get your take on something.

00:34:28.900 I recently found this book titled Good Grief Rituals. And while I was optimistic when I first

00:34:35.160 came across it, it didn't take me long to realize that a lot of these, quote, rituals were

00:34:41.780 hippy-dippy, tree-hugging, something you'd find at the bottom of Anthony Kennedy's bong.

00:34:49.140 So, with that being said, I wanted to ask you, how do you use religion, Christianity to help you

00:34:58.640 deal with grief and loss? Because that's something I have always struggled with.

00:35:04.540 You don't use it, first of all. There's a quote of C.S. Lewis that I go back to again and again

00:35:10.160 because it's so good. He says, if you look for truth, you might find comfort in the end. If you

00:35:14.780 look for comfort, you will find neither truth nor comfort, only soft soap and wishful thinking to

00:35:19.800 begin and in the end despair. It's one thing to lecture on how to deal with grief on a sunny day.

00:35:28.200 This is what C.S. Lewis actually did in his book, The Problem of Pain. It's another thing to deal with

00:35:33.960 grief in real life, which is something that C.S. Lewis acknowledged in his book, A Grief Observed,

00:35:38.880 talking about the death of his wife. When I was in high school, I had to deal with a grief.

00:35:45.620 And I was an atheist, and I remained atheistic and agnostic for some time after that. But I did

00:35:52.940 find myself in the same position you were in. I was looking, how do I process this grief? How do I

00:35:57.320 deal with it? What do I do? You just want to talk to the person again. You have all of these natural

00:36:01.080 longings. And when you start searching in our secular, confused age, you end up with all of these

00:36:08.360 hippy-dippy, really bizarre, sometimes occult, sometimes scientistic, sometimes really out

00:36:14.200 there kind of rituals. And none of it is satisfying and none of it is coherent.

00:36:21.820 Religion, Christianity, will help you to deal with grief. It won't erase grief. Grief is just a part of

00:36:29.020 the human condition. Jesus wept. It's the shortest verse of the Bible. He wept at the death of his

00:36:33.620 friend Lazarus. Two seconds before he raises Lazarus from the dead. That tells you something

00:36:38.260 about the reality of grief, the inevitability of grief in this world. But it will help you to make

00:36:44.060 sense of it because true religion makes sense. That's what makes it true religion. And that's

00:36:49.980 what makes sense for that matter. So in a very straightforward way,

00:36:57.080 how do I process grief now? My Savior lives. I have confidence that good triumphs over evil. I have

00:37:08.340 confidence in the immortality of the human soul. I have confidence in salvation for those who

00:37:15.020 seek it. Or not even those who seek it, those who cooperate with God's grace. I have confidence in

00:37:22.440 that. I think that those are facts. That's why hope is not merely wishful thinking. That's why hope is

00:37:27.580 not just soft optimism. Hope is a theological virtue and a fact grounded not just on poetry

00:37:34.420 and aphorisms, but grounded on the journalism of the gospel. So that grounds my hope. But it does not

00:37:42.440 mean that you will avoid grief. It's not a get out of jail free card. You will have to deal with that.

00:37:48.260 It reminds me of that distinction that a priest friend of mine, Father George Rutler,

00:37:51.620 made between optimism and pessimism. He said that the difference between a Scottish optimist and a

00:37:57.540 Scottish pessimist is that a Scottish pessimist says things can't get any worse and a Scottish

00:38:02.220 optimist says, oh yes, they can. In a way, what religion does, what Christianity does, is it gives

00:38:08.940 you hope because it tells you how bad things really are. And it doesn't sugarcoat that, okay? It tells you

00:38:15.040 the reality of how bad things are. Things are so bad that God had to send his only begotten son to the

00:38:20.680 world to be tortured and killed to save the world. And that's how we treated him.

00:38:26.580 So that ain't sugarcoating anything, but there is a happy ending, which is why on Easter,

00:38:32.260 when we're talking about eternal life and the resurrection, this is why on Easter,

00:38:36.860 Christians chant, oh happy fault, the fault, the fall of man in the garden of Eden, 1.00

00:38:41.100 oh happy fault that one for us so great, so glorious redeemer. Even in your grief,

00:38:45.080 that can point one's eyes up toward hope. Next, voicemail bag.

00:38:50.980 Hey Michael, this is Thomas, long-time listener, first-time mailbag submitter. I have an idea

00:38:56.640 about the abortion conversation, which I want to run by you. I think it was confirmed by your talk

00:39:00.400 with the woman a couple weeks ago. It seems to me that it's an unproductive conversation to have

00:39:05.260 with anyone who has a strong belief on the issue. Now, I say that because you're either talking to

00:39:09.560 another pro-lifer and you're preaching to the choir, or you're talking to a diehard abortionist

00:39:14.140 who I would say has a fundamentally incompatible view of reality. We believe that abortion kills a

00:39:20.640 living human being and that that is evil. They believe that there is no life to kill. Point is,

00:39:26.140 if we're having a conversation with them, we're talking in completely different directions.

00:39:31.180 Now, I guess the silver lining is that those who aren't as firm in their position can have their

00:39:35.640 minds changed. But when it comes to those diehard abortionists, what is the value in having a

00:39:40.920 conversation with them? I have to correct you here. The diehard abortionists do not question

00:39:46.860 that the life is a life, I have found, in my experience. The squishy pro-abortion people will

00:39:53.160 try to tell you, well, the life isn't really a life. Well, the baby's not really a baby. But the

00:39:57.260 hardcore ones are the ones that I read today, that I showed you today on TikTok, and the ones that I've

00:40:02.860 been talking to and debating for the past few weeks, they acknowledge, or Naomi Wolf even,

00:40:08.460 she may have changed her view on abortion. But in the 90s, she said, if we want to defend abortion,

00:40:12.740 we have to acknowledge the baby's a baby, the baby's alive, and mommy needs to kill the baby 0.97

00:40:17.140 and all of the baby's humanity if she wants to be equal to men. I'm paraphrasing her argument. 0.99

00:40:23.140 Those are the hardcore people. And so the value, I think, in having that conversation

00:40:27.400 is to have it publicly. Because hope springs eternal in the human breast, maybe you will

00:40:34.800 convince them. But even if not, when you have that debate publicly, you are showing people

00:40:41.180 the logical conclusions of the two sides, the premises and the logical conclusions of the two

00:40:46.820 sides. You can get rid of some of the nonsense and some of the false information about the abortion

00:40:52.860 debate. And then you just come down to, okay, I think that we should not merely live for our own

00:40:58.020 whims and wills, and we should recognize the eternal moral order, and we should not kill our babies.

00:41:05.160 Versus, I think we should be, the pro-abortion side would say, I think we should be able to commit

00:41:09.960 any evil that we want if that is our will. And if we will not even to call it evil, then we can do

00:41:19.340 that too. Those are the conclusions. And so I think that can be very helpful because it shows people

00:41:24.400 who are watching the debate, huh, I don't know, I haven't totally thought about this thing, but

00:41:28.840 that guy sounds kind of reasonable. And I basically seem to agree with his, and that lady sounds like 0.75

00:41:35.660 a stone cold freaking killer psycho. And so even though in my mind, I agree with her position, 0.99

00:41:42.400 she seems like a total psycho. And the reality of the situation is making me think maybe that guy's 0.71

00:41:47.260 right. And I think that can be persuasive to people on the other side. When you're talking

00:41:52.380 to the squishy people in the middle, and they're the ones who say, well, who knows? Who knows when

00:41:57.280 life begins, the mystery of human life? I think it's actually much easier to convince them. You say,

00:42:02.220 well, look, it's a human being. We now know that the egg and the sperm come together, and they

00:42:07.920 cease to be the egg and the sperm, and they create a new, different, in-kind, unique human entity

00:42:15.920 that is alive, that satisfies all of these scientifically agreed upon characteristics

00:42:20.540 of life. So no matter what you think about whether or not it's okay to kill these people,

00:42:26.480 you have to acknowledge two things. It's human, and it's alive. I've had two big abortion debates

00:42:33.020 on my YouTube channel in the last few weeks. And both of these gals who agreed to came on 0.94

00:42:37.580 admitted that. And they're defenders of abortion. But at least they admitted, yeah, okay, you're right,

00:42:47.420 there's no getting out of this. Scientifically, ontologically, it's living, and it's human.

00:42:53.560 So I think it can be productive, but it's not always productive in the way people think.

00:42:57.020 Sometimes it's productive for the people listening to the debate itself. All right,

00:43:01.080 next voicemail back. Hey, Michael, my name is Cooper. I'm a huge fan of the show. I love what

00:43:06.580 you guys do at The Daily Wire. I wanted to ask you, how do we as conservatives deal with the crazy

00:43:12.800 people on their side? My whole family is conservative, and during 2020, they went off the

00:43:19.180 deep end. With everything that happened, you know, this coronavirus, the election, all of that,

00:43:25.640 it made them start to buy into a lot of other conspiracy theories that aren't true. For example,

00:43:33.140 my mother's a flat earther now. None of my family members believe that we landed on the moon,

00:43:38.840 other than me. They thought that Trump was still in control, and like, he was running things from the

00:43:45.080 shadows or whatever. But I've shown them evidence to disprove their theories, and they just don't

00:43:52.060 listen to it. So how can I bring them back from insanity? They don't even listen to The Daily Wire

00:43:57.920 anymore because they think that you guys aren't far right enough. I hope to get a response, and I

00:44:04.660 hope you have a wonderful day, man. Thanks for what you do. Even me, I'm not far right enough. I'm to

00:44:09.920 the right of Genghis Khan. But okay, so first of all, the place to begin is politics is a team sport.

00:44:16.640 But politics involves loyalty, and you don't need to feel embarrassed. On every team, there's going

00:44:24.840 to be some people who are a little out there and a little weird, and we all have our foibles.

00:44:28.540 You don't need to feel embarrassed of the people on your side to try to score points with the people

00:44:31.980 on the other side. There is no conspiracy theory held by anyone on the right that is crazier than

00:44:36.840 the conspiracy theories held by the mainstream left, namely babies aren't babies, and boys are actually

00:44:42.720 secretly girls. Okay, those are the craziest conspiracy theories I've ever heard. They're 0.82

00:44:46.800 crazier than the flat earth. They're crazier than we didn't go to the moon. They're crazier than anything 0.97

00:44:51.240 I've ever heard from the right. Now, some people on the right will fall into things that are just not

00:44:55.540 true. I wish that Trump were still running the country. He's obviously not. So I would, if you begin,

00:45:01.400 I think, you can begin from two places. It's more of an attitudinal question than it is even a

00:45:06.720 substance question. If you begin from, oh, mom, come on, don't say that. You're going to make us 0.99

00:45:13.060 all look stupid to the libs, and then they're going to think we're crazy, and I'm one of the 1.00

00:45:17.240 smart conservatives, and don't say that, then she's going to recoil from you. And she's going 1.00

00:45:21.400 to say, well, you're probably in on the evil Illuminati Freemason cabal too. And so, you know,

00:45:26.060 you're, get out of here, you. But if you come at it from, hey, mom, look, yeah, the libs are completely 1.00

00:45:31.200 out of their minds, and they've lied to us about everything. And the difference between a conspiracy

00:45:34.380 theory and the truth these days is about six to nine months. So that's true. But, you know,

00:45:38.260 the earth is not flat, actually. And here's the evidence for it. And look, but I wish Trump was

00:45:41.740 still in charge, but he's not in charge. And we can, I don't know, try to make him in charge again.

00:45:45.880 But if you come at it from that perspective, if you think about politics more as a distinction

00:45:50.420 between your friends and your allies and your enemies and your opponents, and you realize that

00:45:55.140 that is just in a practical way, that's how you're going to begin the art of politics,

00:46:00.720 and that politics is not merely loyalties and alliances, but also has to do with logic and

00:46:05.540 has to do with reason and has to do with objective truth, but you don't deny the team sport aspect of

00:46:10.600 it, then I think you're going to be more persuasive. So there are some conservatives who their first

00:46:15.200 instinct is to throw their own guys under the bus. And I just don't think that, I think politically

00:46:20.240 that's stupid. And I don't think it's a particularly virtuous way to conduct politics. One more 0.99

00:46:24.580 question. Let's do a real mailbag one, a written one. Shannon, hey, Michael, you've said recently

00:46:29.100 that the ends don't justify the means and you wouldn't commit a sin to solve a larger problem.

00:46:33.300 I have a question. Would you lie to a Nazi about Jews hiding in your attic? If you are so strict

00:46:38.240 in your deontology, could it not be argued that an otherwise sinful act might be motivated by good

00:46:43.040 will and duty, such as the Nazi example? In your view, how can there be any just wars? Thanks and 0.75

00:46:47.660 love the show. Oh, well, those are two separate questions. In terms of the Nazis show up and I'm

00:46:52.020 hiding Jews in my attic. What do I say to them? Is a lie justified? I am with Saints Augustine and 1.00

00:46:59.620 Thomas Aquinas. This issue has been debated for the entire history of the West, but I'm with Augustine

00:47:04.220 and Thomas Aquinas. I do not think that lies are justified. I think that lies are intrinsically wrong.

00:47:10.580 Now, I might be able to use my language in such a way that I could convey something that is true in

00:47:19.400 itself, but that the Nazis would not believe to be true. So you could say, if I were near a hill and

00:47:29.640 they said, do you have any Jews in your house? I could say, I saw him running up. I saw him running.

00:47:34.940 And you point. And you could even point at the hill. Now, you saw the Jew that you're hiding, 0.81

00:47:40.860 running up your stairs. But the Nazis could interpret that as he's running up the hill.

00:47:47.060 They might take off. That's possible. Now, even that might be a little bit morally suspect.

00:47:51.380 Some people have made arguments that lies can be justified. And there are serious philosophers who

00:47:56.800 have made arguments that a certain kind of lie could possibly be justified because people do not have

00:48:01.780 the right to know that a lie does not involve merely conveying false information that you know

00:48:07.340 to be false, but it is conveying false information that you know to be false to people who have the

00:48:11.640 right to know that information. So if the people don't have the right to know that information,

00:48:14.740 then it's not really a lie. I think that reasoning is a little weak to me. Now, to your second

00:48:20.420 question, how can there be just wars? Because people do have a natural right to self-defense and

00:48:26.500 there is a legitimate claim that our calls to be peaceable and make peace among nations

00:48:32.820 is not a blanket license to allow the cruel to rape the earth. And so also going back to my good

00:48:38.860 buddy, St. Thomas Aquinas, this has been fleshed out over the centuries and there is no Christian call

00:48:43.920 to pacifism. That has never really been understood in the mainstream history of Christianity. There is,

00:48:51.240 though, to go back also to my other dead friend, C.S. Lewis, he has an excellent essay on why he's not

00:48:55.440 a pacifist. We're two minutes over, so I can't really get into it now, but that would be a good

00:48:59.560 essay for Memorial Day weekend reading and maybe we'll get into it more next week. I'm Michael

00:49:03.100 Knowles. Have a good Memorial Day. We'll see you next time.

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