The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1030 - The ＂Alex Jones Was Right＂ Jar 2： Lab Leak

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00:00:30.320 According to a new report out of the UK, the leader of the World Health Organization,

00:00:34.900 quote, privately believes the COVID pandemic started following a leak from a Chinese laboratory.

00:00:41.420 And this is, of course, very strange because for years now,

00:00:45.160 I have been reliably informed by the always trustworthy establishment media

00:00:49.960 that the lab leak theory was a wild and irresponsible conspiracy theory.

00:00:56.600 President Trump is pushing a conspiracy theory again that coronavirus began in a lab in China,

00:01:06.520 that the five eyes, these are America's closest allies in the intelligence community,

00:01:10.920 are now saying that's not the evidence we've seen.

00:01:14.100 The evidence we've seen points us to animal to human transmission.

00:01:18.100 Someone saying that the virus came from a lab.

00:01:24.020 The publications say it's actually something, the virus has happened naturally.

00:01:31.880 It came naturally.

00:01:32.780 The CDCs that are based in Hubei and Wuhan, and also they told me they spoke,

00:01:37.420 they hope to go to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:01:40.060 That's a place that's had a lot of focus on it, particularly under the former Trump administration,

00:01:44.200 when many senior officials there pointed towards it without evidence,

00:01:47.600 without facts to suggest it might have been the source of a lab leak.

00:01:50.720 WHO investigators say they've seen no evidence of a lab leak.

00:01:54.660 World Health Organization, I should point out, Don, they say the lab leak theory, extremely unlikely.

00:02:00.800 Extremely unlikely, just another conspiracy theory.

00:02:04.640 Except now, according to this report that cites a top government official,

00:02:09.460 quote, while publicly the World Health Organization maintains that all hypotheses remain on the table

00:02:14.300 about the origins of COVID, the source said Tedros Adhanom Ghebrezes,

00:02:19.080 the director general of the WHO, had recently confided to a senior European politician

00:02:24.280 that the most likely explanation was a catastrophic accident in a laboratory in Wuhan,

00:02:30.800 where infections first spread in late 2019.

00:02:34.180 Of course, normal people have known that the lab leak theory was likely almost from the very beginning.

00:02:42.220 That's not what's interesting about this story.

00:02:44.500 It's not even all that interesting that the WHO has changed its mind.

00:02:49.080 The most interesting part and the most important part of this new report is that

00:02:53.680 while the head of the WHO apparently now believes that the lab caused the pandemic,

00:03:00.720 he's trying to keep that information private.

00:03:03.780 The reason is that the WHO, which is the institutional face of science with a capital S

00:03:09.620 over the last two and a half years, is primarily a political organization.

00:03:14.940 Contrary to the fantasies of the libs and the squishes, there are no neutral institutions. 0.82

00:03:22.140 Big institutional power means big politics.

00:03:25.960 And the organizations that deny that they have a political bent are usually the most politically dangerous.

00:03:32.420 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:03:34.060 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment Friday is from Old Skooled.

00:03:45.460 Oh man, Old Skooled has been on the board a number of times.

00:03:47.500 Who said,

00:03:48.980 The problem isn't that there are people who are getting things like icons and mascots canceled.

00:03:54.660 It's that there aren't enough people willing to speak up against them and push back.

00:03:59.280 That is such a good point. The iconoclast mobs are always going to be around. They're

00:04:05.800 always going to be trying to tear things down. In healthy societies, you've got people who will say,

00:04:11.140 no, here is why it's good to have a George Washington mascot. Here is why it's good to

00:04:16.820 wave the American flag. Here's why we're going to stand up for our symbols and for our civilization.

00:04:21.380 The problem with our society is you've got the barbarians at the gates. They're frankly

00:04:25.080 past the gates at this point. And then all the people who are supposed to defend the society,

00:04:28.840 we just shrug our shoulders. We say, well, you know, we all have to be neutral.

00:04:33.860 Well, maybe you're right. Maybe we shouldn't. Maybe we shouldn't. That American flag,

00:04:38.260 maybe it's not very inclusive. Maybe we shouldn't. They throw their hands up in the air and they

00:04:40.960 don't defend any of the symbols. They don't offer an affirmative vision. So it's no wonder you've

00:04:46.560 got these barbarians knocking down our country. We've got to reach people. When you want to reach 0.98

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00:05:54.420 nulls. That's Podium.com slash nulls. Podium, let's grow. The World Health Organization,

00:06:01.540 that very important scientific institution, they have really got their finger on the pulse of what

00:06:08.720 matters. Right now, we've just had more than two years of the coronavirus pandemic. And the World

00:06:15.620 Health Organization is hiding what it really believes about the origin of the virus to play

00:06:19.980 politics with China. Okay, great. And now we've got this monkeypox virus that's spreading around,

00:06:25.700 not quite as quickly as COVID, but it's spreading around the world. And the World Health Organization,

00:06:31.400 Tedros Ananum Gabrizes, I could try for 10 years, I will not ever pronounce that man's name correctly.

00:06:37.200 I keep trying. I have a different pronunciation every single time. That man and the World Health

00:06:41.460 Organization that he runs, they're focused on the really important things, namely changing the name

00:06:46.840 of the virus. WHO is also working with partners and experts from around the world on changing the name

00:06:54.580 of monkeypox virus, its clades, and the disease it causes. We will make announcements about the new

00:07:03.120 names as soon as possible. Thank you so much, Tedros. I'm so glad that WHO is devoting all of its

00:07:09.360 resources to changing the name of the virus. Not to stopping the virus, not to try to figure out why

00:07:14.980 this virus is spreading right now, not to trying to investigate and then publicly explain how that

00:07:23.420 first virus started. No, no, we've got to change the name. They did this with COVID. They did this

00:07:27.360 with COVID. They discouraged the term Chinese coronavirus, the Wuhan virus. They discouraged all

00:07:32.720 of that. They then changed all of the names. You couldn't talk about the South African variant or the

00:07:38.480 Indian variant. No, no, no. It was Delta, Ami, Lamid. And that's great. They finally have 1.00

00:07:44.240 controlled our language. And that's what's important, isn't it? They don't want to call it

00:07:50.120 monkeypox because they say monkeypox is racist because the virus comes from Africa, which you sort

00:07:56.160 of think, well, I didn't make that connection. When I heard monkeypox, I didn't view that as racist

00:08:04.460 because I don't view black people as monkeys. The World Health Organization, it's the liberals who

00:08:09.340 are doing, they're saying, wow, you know, this monkeypox virus, it's just people's first thought

00:08:13.600 is going to be that black people are monkeys. No, that's your first, that's not my first thought.

00:08:17.780 What's wrong with you people? So they say, that's really important. And we've got to reduce stigma.

00:08:23.440 They say, quote, in the context of the current global outbreak, continued reference to a

00:08:28.480 nomenclature of this virus being African is not only inaccurate, but is also discriminatory and

00:08:33.660 stigmatizing. So it's not inaccurate. It's a primarily African virus. The virus was first 0.82

00:08:39.380 discovered in Zaire in 1970. That's where most of the breakouts have been throughout the history

00:08:44.780 of monkeypox. The only other place where you had big outbreaks was West Africa. So yes, it is African 1.00

00:08:51.200 in origin. I don't think there's anything discriminatory about referring to the virus by the

00:08:55.640 name that it's had for 50 years. And then there's this question of stigma.

00:09:01.060 Our culture wants to get rid of stigma. Stigmas are really bad that we want to get rid of shame.

00:09:05.480 We want to get rid of stigma. We want to get rid of anything that's particular. But stigma can be an

00:09:10.620 important thing. The stigma that most people are talking about with monkeypox is that it's primarily

00:09:17.260 infecting gay guys. It started at a gay fetish orgy in Belgium and then at another gay bathhouse in 0.75

00:09:24.940 Spain. That's where the big outbreaks have been. That's what's driving the global spread of monkey

00:09:29.420 pox. But the World Health Organization and the rest of the liberal establishment doesn't want to

00:09:34.600 point out that the virus is primarily a gay thing because they say that's homophobic. And for goodness

00:09:39.960 sakes, during Pride Month, we can't mention something like that. But if you want to save gay people,

00:09:46.900 shouldn't you mention that? Don't you? Far from it being homophobic. Don't you think it's actually quite

00:09:52.680 homophilic to, don't you think it's quite pro-gay people living to let them know that this is 0.79

00:10:00.200 primarily a gay thing and they should cut out the bathhouses if they want to not catch the monkeypox 1.00

00:10:04.760 virus? In the United Kingdom, 99% of monkeypox cases are among gay guys. 99% of the people who have

00:10:15.080 monkeypox in the UK are gay guys. And 1%, maybe they're being honest, maybe they're not. I'm not sure. 1.00

00:10:21.220 But the overwhelming, overwhelming, almost 100% of people who have it are gay guys. So if you want 0.99

00:10:27.400 to stop the spread of the virus and you want to protect people from catching it and potentially

00:10:30.800 dying, shouldn't you say, hey, gay guys, be on high alert. Stop doing that stuff that's going to 1.00

00:10:36.400 have you catch monkeypox. Don't go to an orgy and do that thing you shouldn't be doing with 100 guys

00:10:42.560 at night if you don't want to catch monkeypox. I've had gay friends of mine say that if you really

00:10:48.500 wanted to protect the gay community, you would rename monkeypox gay orgypox. And then, because 0.98

00:10:55.520 it would increase stigma and it would increase stigma specifically around orgies in Belgium and

00:11:01.840 bathhouses in Spain. And that would be a good thing. It would be a good thing on lots and lots of levels. 0.99

00:11:06.520 But the WHO can't do that because it's very politically incorrect to suggest that certain

00:11:11.380 viruses will spread more rapidly, much more, almost infinitely more rapidly among the gay community. 1.00

00:11:17.560 And so they put all their focus on political correctness and try to rename the virus and

00:11:23.060 distract from certain facts that are crucial in trying to stop the spread. That is because

00:11:28.300 it's political. So knowing that it is political, we shouldn't pretend that it's this totally neutral

00:11:35.160 scientific institution. It's not. It's bankrolled in large part by China. It's politically

00:11:40.040 allied to China. And so they cover up for China a lot of the time. And it's part of a broader

00:11:45.020 apparatus of liberal transnational institutions that push all the weird pathologies of liberalism,

00:11:50.820 like wokeism and political correctness and all the rest of it. Normal people are pushing back on this

00:11:57.400 kind of thing. You want to talk about orgies. I don't really want to talk about orgies, but parents

00:12:01.840 are pushing back on this in schools and libraries. That parents movement that you've seen at school

00:12:07.940 boards that you've seen at libraries, pushing back on drag queen story hour, on critical race theory,

00:12:12.420 on the weird gender ideology in elementary schools. That isn't just conservative Republicans.

00:12:17.740 That isn't just right wingers. That is people in the middle. That is centrists. That is liberals.

00:12:23.140 That is center left too. And they're showing up. There was an incredible meeting at the

00:12:28.660 Dixon, Illinois library board. Dixon, I think that's where Ronald Reagan is from actually.

00:12:35.280 And they show up to the library board. The library wants to have a bunch of porn for kids

00:12:39.500 in the library. And the parents show up and they say, hey, here is what's going on. And we don't

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00:13:54.140 Illinois, Illinois are pushing back on the weird stuff at their libraries.

00:13:59.720 Books. This one, oral sex. This one, oral sex. Doesn't belong in our library. Not accessible to

00:14:10.280 children. Completely inappropriate. Not okay. Not okay. Completely inappropriate. Keep this stuff out

00:14:17.880 of the library. One, I love that these parents are doing it. Two, I love that people are videotaping

00:14:24.980 it so the rest of us can see it because I imagine that library board doesn't want this kind of video

00:14:28.860 getting out. Three, please send me your tips. I think it's very important on this show that we not

00:14:33.900 only, you know, we comment on the crazy TikTok videos, we comment on the national news story,

00:14:38.740 but it's very important to be able to bring this kind of information out there. Courage is contagious

00:14:44.860 when one community that feels bogged down by wokeism sees another small town, another local

00:14:51.160 community pushing back against it. It can really spread. It can create a movement. And so send me

00:14:57.160 your tips. Send me your videos. You can do it through my personal website, michaeljnoles.com.

00:15:00.960 You can send it to my daily wire email. I don't care. You can send it via carrier pigeon,

00:15:04.720 but send me your tips from your local community. I think, I think we need to get a little bit more

00:15:09.160 activist, especially as the midterm elections are rolling around. The parents are coming up there.

00:15:15.700 They're not exactly calling for book burnings. Worth pointing out, by the way, that some of the

00:15:20.280 greatest people in history have supported book burnings. I know this is an unpopular view in

00:15:25.060 some corners of the right, but it's true. Plato supported book burnings. The apostles supported 0.71

00:15:30.440 book burnings. It's in the New Testament, for goodness sakes. Martin Luther, I'm not, you know,

00:15:36.120 I'm Catholic. I'm not a huge Martin Luther fan, but Martin Luther supported book burnings. 0.98

00:15:40.140 There have been a lot, but anyway, I'm not, they're not calling for book burnings. They're

00:15:43.440 just saying, look, you can have whatever books you want in the library, even radical content,

00:15:47.620 even content I don't agree with, but not pornography, not obscenity. There has never been a protection for

00:15:54.120 that ever in our whole civilization, certainly not in this country. And so no, where kids are going to

00:15:59.140 be accessing this, we don't want that stuff. This is why you don't go into a library and say,

00:16:05.320 back in the 1970s or 80s, hey, I'd like to check out 10 Playboys today. And they say, well, sir,

00:16:11.160 we don't have Playboys. They say, this is censorship. This is, this is a book burning. This is, no,

00:16:15.880 it's not. You just can't, you're, you're not entitled to smut in the public library. And if

00:16:20.180 the taxpayers don't want to pay for smut, they shouldn't have to. We have the right to community

00:16:24.860 standards. We have the right to obscenity laws. We have to remember that schools, libraries,

00:16:31.560 libraries. These are political organizations. Conservatives don't, they don't notice that 0.56

00:16:36.540 all the time because we think, well, let's get the politics out of schools. Let's get the politics

00:16:40.020 out of entertainment. Let's, but political just means public. That's all it means. The words are

00:16:44.840 synonymous. Things that pertain to our public life together. And so a library, of course that's

00:16:49.360 political. It's funded by the taxpayers. It's pushing certain messages. When the library is promoting

00:16:55.380 drag queen story hour, that is the political community endorsing perversion and weirdness

00:17:01.900 and confusion and a sexual ideology. When the schools are promoting this stuff, that is political.

00:17:08.600 The point of public schooling is to create citizens. There is almost nothing more political

00:17:14.220 in America than public education. So of course, this is going to be political. The left knows that,

00:17:19.300 so they wield the politics to their own ends. And the right for a long time has just said,

00:17:23.160 well, let's just be neutral. Okay, let's kick the Bible out of schools. Okay, let's allow the drag 1.00

00:17:28.680 queen reading hour. Okay, no, of course not. Then you're just giving your whole politics to the left. 0.98

00:17:34.340 Do not do that sort of thing. On the topic of sex and politics, FIFA, the soccer organization,

00:17:42.480 has just made a major ruling, or I'm sorry, is proposing a major new rule on sex and politics.

00:17:48.900 That would be dropping the testosterone requirements for men who want to compete against women.

00:17:56.420 So there are men who identify as women, they play in the girls league. And as of now,

00:18:01.640 there are certain requirements that they not have testosterone above a certain threshold.

00:18:06.620 And FIFA is considering dropping this. The current eligibility standard for men who identify as women

00:18:13.440 is less than five nanomoles per liter after at least 12 months. But now they'll say, no, look,

00:18:21.040 look, that man is a woman, no matter how much testosterone she has pumping through her veins, 1.00

00:18:28.180 and through her male anatomy, and through her just heaving, hulking muscles, and through her giant, 0.98

00:18:35.760 manly, masculine frame. She truly is a woman, no matter how much she is a man.

00:18:41.580 Of course, of course, this had to happen. Mark my words, I'm making an Olstradamus prediction right

00:18:48.660 now. If the transgender ideology is going to advance, if it's not rejected, they're going to 1.00

00:18:54.880 have to get rid of the testosterone limits. They have to. Because either these people,

00:19:02.800 these men, really are women, or they're not. Either they're women or they're not.

00:19:08.860 They can't. There is no way to maintain any even semblance of coherence for transgenderism 1.00

00:19:17.560 if they say that the demarcator of whether a man is a woman is the amount of testosterone he has.

00:19:24.020 They can't. Because the premise of transgenderism is my body has nothing to do with who I really am. 0.99

00:19:29.120 The premise of transgenderism is I'm a woman trapped in a man's body. So you can't have a body requirement 0.84

00:19:36.120 to advance the transgender agenda. You have to get the body out of it completely. 1.00

00:19:42.040 Either they're men or they're women. And we have to decide. Even FIFA is a political organization.

00:19:47.620 Sports leagues are political. Sports, athletics, has had a very close connection to patriotism,

00:19:54.140 to the business of the state, going all the way back to ancient Greece, going all the way back to

00:19:58.200 the Olympic Games, and in every civilization and society since then. That's always been the case.

00:20:04.520 This is why it was such a big deal when Colin Kaepernick came out and protested the American

00:20:08.460 flag at the NFL. Why do we wave the American flag at the NFL? Why do we have the Star Spangled

00:20:13.820 banner? Why do we have the Pledge of Allegiance at some sports games? Because sports always has

00:20:19.080 something to do with the political order. And so Colin Kaepernick, pretty wisely, he's not a very

00:20:25.080 wise man, but he had a clever move here. He said, I'm going to subvert that. So the issue is not that

00:20:31.640 we're injecting politics into sports, as some people held it to be. The issue is we are using sports to

00:20:39.920 subvert the traditional political order that sports plays a role in. And here you've got this sports

00:20:47.500 league making a political decision. Men can be women. That's what they're saying. And that's

00:20:53.700 increasingly what sports leagues have said. We have to decide the issue one way or the other.

00:20:59.540 We the people. You know how I want to decide it. I think transgenderism is insane. I don't think it's 0.76

00:21:05.380 a real category of being. I think people who consider themselves to be transgender should be given

00:21:10.660 psychiatric help and philosophical help and spiritual help and all sorts of help, but they should not be

00:21:16.080 indulged. And I think that the people who promote this stuff should probably be imprisoned. That's

00:21:21.280 how I want to decide it. Maybe you want to decide it differently. Maybe you think transgenderism is

00:21:25.920 totally real and we need to be really tolerant and men should be able to go in the women's bathrooms 1.00

00:21:30.000 and men should be able to play on the women's soccer team. I certainly don't care about women's 1.00

00:21:33.620 soccer. I couldn't possibly care any less about anything than women's soccer. I do care about truth. 0.55

00:21:39.760 I do care about reality. But I'm just observing, even outside of my own political preferences,

00:21:46.680 I'm observing the fact that we have to decide the question publicly, politically, for everyone.

00:21:55.680 There's only going to be one standard that we're all living under here. And you're going to see it in

00:22:00.980 the sports teams and at work and at school and in our government and everywhere else in society.

00:22:06.140 It's not enough to say, well, you do you and I'll do me. You can't do that on basic questions about

00:22:12.860 how we're going to live. It'd be like saying that we can't have a national language.

00:22:19.280 For right now, we still have a national language in America. The language is English. That's what our

00:22:24.140 signs are printed in. That's what government forms are printed in. The libs kind of want to undo that

00:22:28.480 and have lots of different languages. But still, the language of America is English.

00:22:32.000 We don't each have the right to speak our own language. If we did that, if all of us spoke our

00:22:38.340 own language, we wouldn't communicate. Society would break down. We'd just walk up and say,

00:22:42.560 jibbly gobbly goo, shumala madame, ding dong watermelon. And you'd say, huh?

00:22:49.640 And then some other person would come out and speak a different language and there'd be no

00:22:52.880 communication. You have to have some shared experience. You have to have some things in common

00:22:59.960 if you want to have a political community. And one of those things you've got to have in common is

00:23:04.900 what is a man? What is a woman? This is why the marriage question had to be decided 0.96

00:23:09.900 politically. You couldn't have everyone just decide, well, it's my own personal preference

00:23:14.040 of what marriage is. No, you have to have that kind of common language. And the libs know it, 0.79

00:23:19.120 which is why they're pushing for their radical wrong vision on these questions. And the conservatives

00:23:24.220 have thrown their hands up in the air. I heard this during the marriage debate. They said,

00:23:28.420 well, look, I'm a libertarian on this question. Well, look, I'm agnostic on this question. Well,

00:23:34.040 look, I just want to get the government out of it. Oh, okay. So you just, you're just going to

00:23:38.020 concede it to the libs. That's all that means. He said, look, I just don't want to get political

00:23:42.500 here. Oh, okay. Well, the other guy wants to get political. And the other guy who is pushing a

00:23:48.940 campaign that totally opposes what you believe in, then he's going to win. Because the guy who's willing

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00:24:42.840 Either transgenderism is real or it is not real. That's why they've got to push it on kids. 1.00

00:24:47.460 They have to push it on kids. Some conservatives, some squishes, they want to say, well, look,

00:24:53.100 I'm fine with transgenderism, but just not for the kids. That doesn't make any sense. 1.00

00:24:59.400 If transgenderism is real and you can really be a man trapped in a woman's body, 1.00

00:25:04.020 then for sure we should let the kids who have that problem transition. If some kid is really born

00:25:11.540 and he's a woman trapped in a man's body and he's just this woman trying desperately to get out,

00:25:19.860 then of course we should. If it is the case that the medical interventions and the chopping and the

00:25:24.820 puberty blockers and the hormone replacement really does allow the true woman inside of the little boy 0.98

00:25:30.180 to come out and flourish, then of course we should do that. We should do it as soon as possible.

00:25:35.220 But that's not the case. It's not a real thing. It's a fake thing. It's a delusion. It's a fantasy

00:25:42.800 and a psychological problem that should be treated, not indulged. But if it's a fake thing,

00:25:48.900 then we just shouldn't indulge it. If the experience of feeling like a woman trapped in a man's body is

00:25:57.820 just pathological, if it's just a mental illness, then we should treat the mental illness, not chop off

00:26:05.060 functioning body parts. You have to decide it based on reality, based on truth. The left is making a

00:26:14.700 truth claim. They're saying transgenderism is real. The conservatives up until this point have made a

00:26:22.920 preference claim. They've said, well, look, I don't want to adhere to that ideology, but I don't want to

00:26:30.100 stop you from, and I have no right to force my views on you. And if you want to do that, that's just fine.

00:26:35.060 I throw my hands up in the air. I don't want to get political. I don't want, come on. I just want

00:26:40.000 to live and let live. Oh, okay. So you're just conceding the issue to the libs and they're going 0.51

00:26:44.320 to push it on kids. They have to push it on libs, on the kids rather. The libs have to push it on the 1.00

00:26:49.440 kids. It's confusing to say. They have to, because you are tacitly granting their premise. And the

00:26:56.240 logical conclusion of their premise that transgenderism is real is that you should allow the 1.00

00:27:01.080 kids to transition. And that's what they're doing. A major transgender health organization

00:27:05.980 has, this is the World, World Professional Association for Transgender Health says it's

00:27:11.600 going to change its advice on when teenagers should be able to get treatment, also known as poison and

00:27:16.720 mutilation, because it is unethical and harmful to withhold early treatment. So the updated advice

00:27:22.800 is saying that kids should be put on cross-sex hormones starting at 14. And that kids should 1.00

00:27:29.180 have mutilation surgery where they chop off their genitals starting at 15. This is sickening stuff.

00:27:38.540 I actually feel nauseated reading this information. By the way, the puberty blockers start way earlier.

00:27:44.520 The puberty blockers can start at eight. And by the age of 17, you should be able to have full-on 0.70

00:27:53.520 genital mutilation. Not just the cosmetic stuff, or semi-cosmetic stuff. Not just the top surgery,

00:28:00.600 as it's called, where you lop off perfectly healthy breasts, but even the downstairs stuff too. 1.00

00:28:07.320 Of course they're going to get away with this, because the conservatives totally ceded the ground,

00:28:11.220 because we're not even engaging in the debate. We're saying, well, I'm agnostic on whether it's

00:28:16.440 true or false. Even if I think transgenderism is false, I don't want to push my political views on 1.00

00:28:21.400 you. And three, this isn't a place for politics. This should just be decided by individuals. And oh,

00:28:28.300 okay, well, then the other guys are going to make the truth claims. And the other guys are going to

00:28:34.140 force their views on everybody else, including poor little kids. And the other eyes are going to

00:28:40.120 order the culture and the politics. That's what's going to happen.

00:28:45.360 And by the way, the conservatives and the kind of squishy people who have been saying the whole

00:28:51.040 time, well, just let people make their own decisions. They're now leaving these poor kids

00:28:55.320 who by definition can't make their own decisions. They're below the age of consent.

00:28:58.920 They're leaving them to the predations of these psychos and these perverts. And to be charitable

00:29:03.120 about it, these confused people who have fallen under the thrall of transgender ideology, which is 0.90

00:29:10.600 completely absurd and incoherent. Is that good? Is there anything good or compassionate about allowing

00:29:19.020 that to happen? I don't think so. So what's the solution? It's a very simple solution. We just say

00:29:23.380 no. We say no. We've let this go way too far. Transgenderism is absurd. People who think that

00:29:29.760 they're transgender should be placed in asylums or at least in counseling. And the people who promote 1.00

00:29:34.780 this stuff, the doctors and the teachers and the media people and the politicians, we should pass

00:29:38.740 laws against that of grooming little kids for this nonsense. And we should put the people who break

00:29:43.660 them in jail. And that's that. And we're deciding that. It's not real anymore. We're going to be

00:29:47.920 charitable and compassionate about the issue. But it's not charitable and compassionate to mutilate

00:29:52.360 little kids' bodies and sterilize them when they're 14 years old. And frankly, starting even 0.63

00:29:56.460 earlier at eight years old, whatever train of thought has led you to the place where you're

00:30:03.740 sterilizing little kids, you've gone down the wrong path. Your premises are wrong. We need to try

00:30:10.760 something different. If transgenderism is real, which it's not, but if it's real, then this article 0.53

00:30:18.700 that I just read in Time Magazine is totally normal. If transgenderism is not real, and it isn't, 0.96

00:30:27.640 it is not real. I'm using lots of double negatives here. Then this article in Time Magazine is the

00:30:33.640 creepiest thing I've ever read. It's called The Pain and Pride of a Generation Changing How It Sees

00:30:39.040 Gender. The cover photo, I'm going to block out the poor kid's face. The cover photo is Freedom, 0.98

00:30:45.180 a two-spirit 13-year-old posing for a portrait for Time Magazine. Time Magazine just spent a year

00:30:55.060 going around the country taking photographs of sexually confused little kids. This is how they

00:31:01.560 describe it. They say that they're taking photos of gender expansive kids. Where is Chris Hansen when

00:31:10.260 you need them? I wish Time Magazine had called my house and said, hey, do you have any gender 1.00

00:31:16.700 expansive kids living with you? Yeah, no. What's the age limit? Oh, I don't know, 13, maybe even

00:31:22.420 younger. Yeah, we want to talk to them about their sexual desires and identities. Say, sure, come on

00:31:28.700 over at five o'clock. I'd have Chris Hansen waiting in my kitchen. Hi, Time Magazine. Yeah, why don't you

00:31:33.880 take a seat right over here? Oh, no, I wasn't going to do nothing. No, why don't you, listen, Time Magazine,

00:31:38.720 why don't you take a seat right over here? What were you planning on doing? You want to take

00:31:41.220 pictures of little kids with sexual confusion? It's super duper creepy. Our whole society would

00:31:49.820 have known this five years ago and exploitative and wrong and child abuse. Now we celebrate it.

00:31:56.300 Why? We celebrate it because we're letting the libs run the politics and the conservatives are just

00:32:02.000 backing off. I bet you, I guarantee you, the majority of Americans don't think that we should be taking

00:32:07.740 pictures of sexually confused little kids. I guarantee you, the majority of Americans don't

00:32:12.480 think that 13-year-old boys should be dressing up like girls and putting stilettos on and stuff.

00:32:18.000 I promise you, they don't think that. So why are we letting it happen? It's not because the liberals

00:32:23.720 have been, and the progressives and the leftists and whatever term you want to use, have been so

00:32:27.380 incredibly genius and they're just unstoppable. It's mostly because the conservatives surrendered and

00:32:34.080 gave up. Even the drag queens get this. There is a great viral video going around of a drag queen, 0.82

00:32:40.400 an actual performing drag queen, saying, guys, why the hell are you all being so supportive of the

00:32:46.460 drag queens? What in the hell has a drag queen ever done to make you have so much respect for them and 1.00

00:32:53.600 admire them so much, other than put on makeup and jump on the floor and writhe around and do sexual

00:33:00.740 things on stage? I have absolutely no idea why you would want that to influence your child.

00:33:09.080 Would you want a stripper or a porn star to influence your child? It makes no sense at all.

00:33:16.020 A drag queen performs in a nightclub for adults. There is a lot of filth that goes on, a lot of sexual 1.00

00:33:24.560 stuff that goes on. And backstage, there's a lot of nudity, sex, and drugs. Okay? And honestly,

00:33:33.900 you're not doing the gay community any favors. In fact, you're hurting us. Okay? We have already 1.00

00:33:39.620 had a reputation of being pedophiles and being perverts and deviants. We don't need you to bring

00:33:45.200 your children around. So you keep your kids at home, or take them to Disneyland, or take them to

00:33:50.300 Chuck E. Cheese. Preach. Preach, drag queen. You're telling it like it is. I love that line. 1.00

00:33:56.320 Take them to Chuck E. Cheese. What's wrong with you people? What has a drag queen ever done 1.00

00:34:02.100 to make you have so much respect for us? You think, oh, right. It was amazing how quickly the

00:34:10.460 libs did this. They blurred all the lines. They said, gay guys, and we need to tolerate gay guys. 1.00

00:34:16.740 And by tolerating gay guys, we need to embrace transgenderism for some reason. I don't really 1.00

00:34:22.340 quite know how that necessarily follows. And then if we're going to embrace transgenderism,

00:34:27.420 we need to support drag shows. There's even a difference between transgenderism and a drag show. 0.99

00:34:33.200 Transgenderism is when a confused man thinks that he's a woman. A drag show is when a deviant man knows 0.99

00:34:38.200 that he's not a woman, but thinks it'll be kind of funny to dress up like one and put on a bawdy 0.99

00:34:42.540 sexual performance. Those are totally different things. And then this drag queen, he says,

00:34:46.460 we're basically strippers. Why are you taking your kids to the stripper shows? What have we done? 1.00

00:34:54.000 We haven't done it all. The defining feature of a drag queen is putting on sex shows, sexual shows 1.00

00:35:02.260 in nightclubs for adults. The difference between a drag queen and a stripper, well, other than the 1.00

00:35:08.780 anatomical differences, is that a stripper puts on a sexual show and a drag queen puts on a funny 1.00

00:35:16.500 sexual show. A drag show is just basically a stripper burlesque show with more jokes and humor, 0.64

00:35:24.640 right? And you have the drag queen, and the drag queens are really outrageous. And that's why when 1.00

00:35:28.120 they do the parades up and down New York, they're telling jokes and doing all sorts of comedy. But

00:35:33.380 it's, that's it. It's just kind of a funny, funnier sex show. You wouldn't take your kid to a strip

00:35:40.100 club. Why would you take your kid to a, and you wouldn't take your kid even to a late night raunchy

00:35:46.700 comedy show. Why would you take your kid to both of them at the same time with a lot of sexual 0.99

00:35:52.320 confusion added on in addition? Because we've, we, it's because we have lost our minds on indulgence.

00:36:01.440 I'm not surprised that the libs are pushing this stuff. The libs have always had an interest in 0.80

00:36:06.000 sexualizing, well, everybody, and especially kids. They've been writing about this for a hundred

00:36:09.800 years. Wilhelm Reich, going back to the, the early 20th century, this leftist intellectual said that

00:36:16.280 the problem, all of the problems in the world, war, disease, everything in between, they're caused by a 0.99

00:36:21.900 lack of orgasms, not joking. And he said that he had invented an orgone accumulator to, to collect the,

00:36:29.080 the essence of, of life and the essence of the world, the organs floating around.

00:36:33.700 This was mocked in the pop culture as an orgasmatron. And lots of intellectuals on the left

00:36:38.460 had it. Norman Mailer had it. J.D. Salinger had it. Bernie Sanders wrote about this kind of stuff

00:36:43.060 and how we need to sexualize kids. He wrote about it in the 1960s in essays in the Vermont Freeman.

00:36:47.580 You can still read them. They've been, I get why the libs are pushing this stuff. It's part of their,

00:36:52.780 their campaign to upend society. In the words of Marx, ruthlessly criticize everything that

00:36:58.080 exists. My only issue here is why I'm being so harsh on the conservatives here is what have you

00:37:02.880 been doing? They've been telling you what they want to do for 50 to a hundred years now. They've

00:37:07.820 been doing it successfully. And then what do you do? You say, well, you know, it's not my place.

00:37:12.180 If someone wants to put on a drag show for children, that's a blessing of liberty. And that's,

00:37:15.860 it's not my place to ever have a point of view about that. What? The libs don't think that.

00:37:20.680 The conservatives didn't think that until five minutes ago. I don't, I'm not even sure you really

00:37:24.680 think that. I just think you've just been deluded or you're so beaten down by the leftist advances in

00:37:31.920 the culture that you don't, you don't have the chutzpah to go out and fight. Come on, push back

00:37:36.460 and fight guys. You know, the other aspect of the drag queens that's important here is the 1.00

00:37:43.180 transgender person wants to pretend that he's really the woman. It's a, it's a realistic performance of a 0.99

00:37:49.700 woman. The essence of a drag show is that it's a very unrealistic performance. This difference

00:37:55.920 between realism and unrealism is at the heart of it. There was a, a TikTok that went viral the other

00:38:02.040 day of some confused woman describing not just her transgenderism, but her neo pronouns and

00:38:08.480 specifically why she uses them. So neo pronouns are any set of pronouns that aren't officially recognized

00:38:16.160 pronouns might give them dysphoria or using neos could give someone gender euphoria. I use them 0.92

00:38:30.900 because they give me euphoria because I really enjoy confusing people with my gender identity,

00:38:38.040 which sounds kind of weird, but it gives me euphoria. So whatever.

00:38:42.500 I really like using they them and fey fair in conversation, like when I'm talking. And I really like using

00:38:50.800 bun bun self, uh, like if I'm texting someone or I guess just on the internet. Um, that's, that's the way

00:38:59.560 I like using them. So an example of fey fair pronouns could be, I really like fair jacket today. It's

00:39:06.880 fair favorite color. Faye like the color purple. And an example of bun bun self pronouns could be

00:39:13.740 bunched up on my for you page today. Bun really likes using neo pronouns.

00:39:19.180 Bun really gets a kick out of this and bun would prefer if you would refer to bun by bun self's

00:39:25.160 preferred bun buns and pronouns. That's true. It does not give me euphoria. It gives me bemusement,

00:39:30.240 but it doesn't give me euphoria. Euphoria is the key word there. I'm so glad this gal gets it. This

00:39:37.020 gal, I don't think she intended to point this out, but she says the opposite of dysphoria is euphoria

00:39:42.420 in the transgender ideology. Dysphoria means this unrealistic view of your own body that is a 0.95

00:39:49.240 negative view of your own body. But euphoria as it is used in modern life is an unrealistic

00:39:56.220 feeling of happiness. Euphoria is what you get when you shoot up heroin. It's the feeling that

00:40:02.260 you get. You're not really happy. You're not really thriving or flourishing, but it's the feeling that

00:40:07.060 you get. And this gal seems to suggest that those are the only two ways to live. In this dysphoria 1.00

00:40:13.280 or this euphoria, how about you live in real life? How about real life with real happiness grounded on

00:40:19.220 real things? That is entirely missing from the conversation. The extreme unrealism of what the

00:40:32.240 left is pushing, especially when we're talking about the sex stuff, is a big problem. And I feel

00:40:37.480 for this girl. This girl who says, you know, refer to me as bun bun self and fairy pronouns and whatever,

00:40:44.820 all these pronouns that are even beyond the 57 usual ones that we get these days.

00:40:49.480 This girl has been raised at a time of such surreality where life is not lived primarily

00:40:57.380 in the real world, but is lived in the virtual world. It's increasingly going to be lived in the

00:41:01.260 metaverse. It's lived on social media. It's lived with a focus only on oneself. It's lived with a focus

00:41:06.120 on how I feel. Not with a care to other people's pain or objective reality, but only a care for one's own

00:41:13.960 pleasure. A culture of narcissism. And so it's no surprise that she says, this gives me euphoria.

00:41:21.820 What a weird thing to say. She doesn't say this makes me happy or this is a good thing to do. She

00:41:26.260 says it gives me euphoria. It's like when people, it's when people describe themselves as a bag of

00:41:31.760 chemicals. They say, gosh, I got such an adrenaline rush. They don't say, boy, I was excited. Wow,

00:41:38.400 that thrilled me. No, they say, I got an adrenaline rush because you're just thinking of yourself as a

00:41:43.080 big bag of chemicals that just reacts to different stimuli. And when the stimuli poke you and make

00:41:49.180 you feel good on the inside, then you want more of that. That gives you euphoria. And when they make

00:41:53.880 you feel bad, you want less of that with no care to objective reality or to discipline or to some

00:41:59.820 temporary pain that might strengthen someone over time. Something tells me that these people who are

00:42:06.640 just focused entirely on themselves and their own low base pleasures. Something tells me they don't

00:42:12.320 have a great relationship with their parents. I'm not saying it's 100% of the time, but usually when

00:42:18.020 you see people dancing around talking about bun bun self and all sorts of mutilations on them and

00:42:24.120 they're screaming and they're yelling and they're protesting outside of the Supreme Court

00:42:27.220 justice's houses. You look at that and you say, huh, something tells me you don't have a great

00:42:33.140 relationship with dad. It's a little harsh to say, but 999 times out of a thousand, that is going to be

00:42:41.880 the case. This is a problem that you've got to solve first. Before we figure out the debt and the

00:42:51.120 deficit, before we figure out immigration, before we figure out the tax rates and the way that we can

00:42:58.740 kind of fix some of the institutions and the energy policy and before you can figure out

00:43:03.140 higher level political issues. If you've got a country where your family has completely broken

00:43:09.840 down, you're not going to solve any of those political problems because the family is the

00:43:14.920 basic political institution. Daily Wire just did an analysis of new census data. According to this

00:43:21.260 analysis, there are lots of parts of this country where most people do not grow up with two parents.

00:43:27.720 Puerto Rico, just kind of America, kind of sort of part of America, only 38% of Puerto Rican

00:43:36.420 children live with two parents. Washington DC, only 48% of DC residents, children live with two

00:43:47.840 parents. Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, it's a little higher. It's above the 50% threshold,

00:43:53.440 but not much. 55%, 57% according to census data. You can't have a flourishing country that way. That

00:44:01.500 is going to create, just think about it. Just think about something that happened in your childhood,

00:44:06.300 whether you grew up with two parents or one parent or no parents or however you grew up.

00:44:10.480 Think about one thing that happened, even if you grew up in the greatest household ever,

00:44:15.460 leave it to Beaver, father knows best, Donna Reed household. 1.00

00:44:18.940 Did something happen in your childhood that kind of messed you up a little bit?

00:44:24.420 Did, I don't know, daddy and mommy fought a little bit too much or, I don't know, daddy traveled too

00:44:30.380 much or there was some big fight that broke out or even in your extended family, aunt so-and-so

00:44:37.500 didn't talk to uncle, what's his face? Did something happen when you were a kid? Daddy yelled at you one

00:44:43.580 time. Okay. Think about that, that relatively minor experience of childhood trauma. And now,

00:44:51.020 have it be that your parents just don't care about you and they don't care about you enough to try to

00:44:55.720 focus on your upbringing and daddy disappears for huge stretches of time if he's there at all.

00:45:02.280 Or maybe mommy doesn't really care about, maybe mommy just leaves daddy and she puts the kids kind 1.00

00:45:08.600 of second or third if she's thinking about them at all. And look, they're just going to focus on them.

00:45:12.700 They're going to live their best life. Okay. And frankly, it'll be better for the kids if mommy

00:45:16.300 and daddy are happy, quote unquote, pursuing their own selfish desires. You can't, if one incident at

00:45:24.760 the dinner table is going to kind of mess you up as a kid, no matter how nice your upbringing was,

00:45:29.860 imagine you're living in a society where most kids don't live with both of their parents.

00:45:36.320 Maybe they get to see both their parents sometime. I don't, maybe. Think about how much that's going

00:45:42.400 to mess up all of those kids. Think about how much that's going to mess up society.

00:45:46.940 You know, it's not, not every political issue comes down to some textbook explanation when,

00:45:52.300 and some formal academic debate. And frankly, more of, of what shapes our politics is that

00:45:58.720 Ronald Reagan said politics begins around the dinner table. What happens when there's no dinner

00:46:02.120 table? What happens when mommy and daddy just aren't home and you're sitting at home on a snack

00:46:06.700 tray alone watching TV? Well, then that dinner table, that's going to be your politics. And

00:46:10.920 especially when the TV that's, that's being pumped into you or the streaming now is promoting radical

00:46:18.320 woke propaganda, especially when you're the only solid relationship that the kids have is going to

00:46:23.780 be with their teacher in a public school. There are great public school teachers, but there's a lot

00:46:27.540 of crap that goes on in the public schools too. Or their only relationship is with some movie star

00:46:32.660 on TV or their only relationship is some parasocial relationship on social media, pushing crazy woke

00:46:38.180 stuff. That's a major, major political problem. It's not enough to say you do, you figure it out.

00:46:43.720 Well, I'm just going to focus on, no, we, we need to structure our society in such a way that it's

00:46:49.540 better for those kids, for society as a whole. If we don't do that, we're just conceding the culture

00:46:56.020 to the radicals. We've done that for 50 years. It's led us to this madness. Maybe it's time to try

00:47:00.240 a new strategy. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.

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00:47:57.720 officially disqualifies men like Leah Thomas from competition in the future. Does this mark a return

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